FL judge, Health Care Bill Unconstitutional, Judge Roger Vinson, Requires Americans to obtain commercial insurance

FL judge, Health Care Bill Unconstitutional,  Judge Roger Vinson, Requires Americans to obtain commercial insurance

From the New York Times January 31, 2011.

“Like a Virginia judge in December, Judge Roger Vinson of Federal District Court in Pensacola, Fla., said he would allow the law to remain in effect while the Obama administration appeals his ruling, a process that could take two years. But unlike his Virginia counterpart, Judge Vinson ruled that the entire health care act should fall if the appellate courts join him in invalidating the insurance requirement.

“The Act, like a defectively designed watch, needs to be redesigned and reconstructed by the watchmaker,” Judge Vinson wrote.

In a 78-page opinion, Judge Vinson held that the insurance requirement exceeds the regulatory powers granted to Congress under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. Judge Vinson wrote that the provision could not be rescued by an associated clause in Article I that gives Congress broad authority to make laws “necessary and proper” to carrying out its designated responsibilities.

“If Congress can penalize a passive individual for failing to engage in commerce, the enumeration of powers in the Constitution would have been in vain,” Judge Vinson wrote.

In a silver lining for the Obama administration, the judge rejected a second claim that the new law violates state sovereignty by requiring states to pay for a fractional share of a Medicaid expansion that is scheduled for 2014.

Judge Vinson, the first judge to address that question, dismissed the contention that states were being illegally commandeered by the federal government. He said they always have the option, however impractical, to withdraw from Medicaid, a joint state and federal insurance program for those with low-incomes.

The judge’s ruling came in the most prominent of more than 20 legal challenges to some aspect of the sweeping health law, which was enacted last year by a Democratic Congress and signed by President Obama in March.

The plaintiffs include governors and attorneys general from 26 states, all but one Republican, as well as the National Federation of Independent Business, which represents small companies. Officials from six states joined the lawsuit this month after shifts in party control brought by last November’s elections.

The ruling by Judge Vinson, a senior judge who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan, solidified the divide in the health litigation among judges named by Republicans and those named by Democrats.

Last month, Judge Henry E. Hudson of Federal District Court in Richmond, Va., who was appointed by President George W. Bush, became the first to invalidate the insurance mandate. Two other federal judges named by President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, have upheld the law.”

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107 responses to “FL judge, Health Care Bill Unconstitutional, Judge Roger Vinson, Requires Americans to obtain commercial insurance

  1. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Will Sotomeyor and Kangen be forced to recuse themselves when this reaches SCOTUS? Let’s face it, the sole reason they were appointed was to support Pharaoh’s regime, and Republicans were to wussified to refuse the wishes of The Boy Pharaoh.

    And I would be remiss if I neglected to wish CW a very happy birthday. Thanks for providing this forum.

  2. Happy Birthday, CW!!!

  3. Nancy Peacock

    Happy Birthday, CW!!!!!!

  4. Judge uses Obama’s words against him


    In ruling against President Obama‘s health care law, federal Judge Roger Vinson used Mr. Obama‘s own position from the 2008 campaign against him, arguing that there are other ways to tackle health care short of requiring every American to purchase insurance.

    “I note that in 2008, then-Senator Obama supported a health care reform proposal that did not include an individual mandate because he was at that time strongly opposed to the idea, stating that ‘if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house,’” Judge Vinson wrote in a footnote toward the end of the 78-page ruling Monday.

  5. Jacqlyn Smith | January 31, 2011 at 2:51 pm |

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    JS – That was a wonderful 90 minutes. I hope everyone here will take the time to listen. The plan would turn the economy around in a heart-beat. I noticed too that the Rothschilds are mentioned as the bad guys.
    God Bless and Happy Birthday CW

  6. CW,
    Happy Birthday and many more.

    The judge’s opinion I agree with in general. However, there are more areas of this Bill that are Unconstitutional. Any mandate by the Federal Government, that violates existing amendments, should be unconstitutional. Since this bill states that certain parties do not have to participate because of religion, or can be given political non-participation, the entire bill is unconstitutional because it creates injustice by religion or political connection. This is a violation of the 1st amendment, because it doesn’t allow freedom of religion as it gives economic incentive to certain Muslims as apposed to say Baptists. Also, the point of portability may be covered by the commerce act and the legislative branch (commerce between states). Nevertheless mandating states to participate is unconstitutional outside of this reality, as Healthcare was NOT enumerated within the original Constitution and the 10th Amendment gives these powers to the states.

    Sadly, I don’t really think it takes a Constitutional ‘scholar’ to see the egregious attacks on the bill of rights. They liberals, in a profound rush to push through a government takeover of healthcare, decided to tread across the Bill of Rights. In the words of Democrats “Were just making it up as we go along”….and… “You have to wait for the bill to be passed so you can know what is in it”. This is not a Constitutional government, or a government ruled by the will of the People, its elitist snobs deciding what is best for us. They think that we are too stupid to have those things that were promised within the bill of rights.

    Obama is the liberals way of telling the rest of the United States that the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, is just so much useless paper now. Violating the requirements for POTUS was just the initial insult, the Health Care bill was frosting. When you unilaterally break all the rules to get your agenda, including those that have preserved peace and prosperity for 220 years, you are just plain evil and dangerous. These of course are my humble opinions.


  7. http://bigpeace.com/sfr/2011/01/31/barry-rubin-the-muslim-brotherhood-has-declared-jihad-against-the-u-s/

    Barry Rubin: The Muslim Brotherhood Has Declared Jihad Against the U.S.

  8. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/258419/fear-muslim-brotherhood-andrew-c-mccarthy

    One might wonder how an organization can be thought to have renounced violence when it has inspired more jihadists than any other, and when its Palestinian branch, the Islamic Resistance Movement, is probably more familiar to you by the name Hamas — a terrorist organization committed by charter to the violent destruction of Israel. Indeed, in recent years, the Brotherhood (a.k.a., the Ikhwan) has enthusiastically praised jihad and even applauded — albeit in more muted tones — Osama bin Laden. None of that, though, is an obstacle for Mr. Riedel, a former CIA officer who is now a Brookings scholar and Obama administration national-security adviser. Following the template the progressive (and bipartisan) foreign-policy establishment has been sculpting for years, his “no worries” conclusion is woven from a laughably incomplete history of the Ikhwan.

  9. Let’s not celebrate too quickly. Let’s see what this gang banger in the White House does to corrupt the judicial system to manipulate it to get his own way. he will send out his gang banger henchment — watch the threats fly.

    Looks like its all coming back to bite this gangster in the ass.

    Stand By America: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.

  10. Sherman Tank………………….
    That is his preferred place to be “HIT”.

  11. HS Batman – Putin getting same treatment as Mubarak in Moscow. Breaking on Fox News.

  12. Looks as though Judge Vinson might be the person to get a properly drafted eligibility suit in front of. TESTING KEYBOARD…..”Perhaps now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of our country.”……end of test!

  13. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/258419/fear-muslim-brotherhood-andrew-c-mccarthy?page=3

    The Obama administration has courted Egyptian Islamists from the start. It invited the Muslim Brotherhood to the president’s 2009 Cairo speech, even though the organization is officially banned in Egypt. It has rolled out the red carpet to the Brotherhood’s Islamist infrastructure in the U.S. — CAIR, the Muslim American Society, the Islamic Society of North America, the Ground Zero mosque activists…

  14. BO committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. BO should be immediately indicted for fraud.

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.



  15. Pete………………………..
    I tend to think that Vinson done enough of a number on the Health care debacle that any further litigation might not be necessary. Vinson has said NO to HARRY REID’S STRETCH OF THE COMMERCE LAW. That destroys the complete underpinning o9f the alleged LAW. I don’t think that Dirty Harry,or MMMMMSSSSS. UNIMPORTANT can do much to TRUMP Vinson. I am sure that they both will have some choice adjectives for the Judge. Perhaps even some choice four letter VERBS as well.

  16. Sherman Tank……………………
    I read Larry Sinclair’s book cover to cover. I will not repeat his words on this blog but when I state “preferred place” the rest is up to your imagination. I disposed of the book soon after I finished with it.

  17. Vinson’s judgment was sound. The henchmen will have difficulty overturning it. They are SOL. We will prevail. I think the walls are caving in on the WH and its administration.

  18. The Mighty Hammer of Providence

    Providence created this great land that we now live.
    By providing this Land to us, Providence created a solid bridge from Tyranny to Liberty.
    The bridges’ planks, harvested from forests located in places called Concord, Lexington, Saratoga, Yorktown, Trenton and Valley Forge.
    Providence used his Mighty Hammer to drive the spikes into the planks.
    These spikes were made of steel forged in the furnaces of The Alamo, Gettysburg, Antietam, Verdun, Argonne Forest, Midway, Guadalcanal, Palermo, Anzio, Okinawa, Pusan, Inchon, Chosin, Hanoi, Queson Valley, Dak To, Hamburger Hill, Fallujah, Debecka Pass, Tora Bora and many other places.
    Providence lifted his Mighty Hammer and set these spikes deep and true into the planks.
    But lo, in the dark of night nefarious forces equipped with crowbars scratch their way around these seasoned and hard planks to exposed the spikes set by Providence in order to gain purchase on the spikes in order to disassemble the bridge built by Providence.
    The night crews have become emboldened and now felt led to work 24/7 on the sturdy timbers without fear and shame.
    Has the bridge been scratched? Yes
    Have some of the spikes been loosened? Yes
    Will Providence come back with his Mighty Hammer and knock off the bridge the destroyers of his work? Yes
    The Mighty Hammer of Providence will swing once more and repair the bridge and re-strike the spikes into their designated and rightful position.

    Aerie 2011

  19. Clinton convenes mass meeting of U.S. ambassadors

  20. Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood Links Deserve Second Look



    U.S. President Barack Obama met with members of Egypt’s Islamist opposition movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, earlier this year, according to a report in Thursday editions of the Egyptian daily newspaper Almasry Alyoum.

    The newspaper reported that Obama met the group’s members, who reside in the U.S. and Europe, in Washington two months ago.

    According to the report, the members requested that news of the meeting not be publicized.


    One year ago, Big Government reported the anti-American global left, led by Code Pink, traveled to Egypt to undermine the blockade of Hamas-controlled Gaza.

    President Barack Obama funder and Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans, accompanied by Obama’s Hyde Park friends and neighbors – the former Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn – organized an inside-outside game of political theater to bring pressure on the Mubarak regime to allow the aid for Hamas to be delivered though Egyptian checkpoints.

  21. http://bigpeace.com/bbarrack/2011/01/30/underground-uprising-in-egypt/

    We know that the Muslim Brotherhood supports the uprising in Egypt. The Obama administration does as well. Based on the release of a secret document, it’s been learned that the United States government supported the April 6 Youth Movement – a group that played a key role in the uprising – in the form of a summit in Washington, D.C. That summit took place from December 3-5, 2008. We also know that Bill Ayers and Bernandine Dohrn were in Cairo a little more than one year later, engaging in protests while attempting to show solidarity with Hamas by entering Gaza with Egyptian protesters.


    Washington Meetings and April 6 Ideas for Regime Change


    This was a statement by Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit on Nile-TV. It was made on the «Round table show».

    This is the statement recorded:

    Adul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, where the US President told him that He was still a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father, the step son of Muslim stepfather, that his half brothers in Kenya are Muslims, and that he was sympathetic towards the Muslim agenda.

    Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic issues, like the Health care reform, he would show the Muslim World how to deal with Israel.

    Source: Israeli magazine, Israel today.

    This is akin to an SS officer getting elected president during WW II. Every country in the free world must be cognizant of such a catastrophic sea change in the leadership of the free world (as witnessed by events over the past year). This changes everything. He took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, and yet he has gone around the world promoting Islam, the sharia (Islamic law).

  22. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/01/egyptian-muslim-brotherhood-leader-prepare-for-war-with-israel-1.html

    Obama has been secretly supporting this revolution for three years. Why? He ignored the people of Iran marching against the annihilationist mullahcracy of Iran. He gave his tacit support to mass slaughter where millions took to the streets.

    Anyone who sees this as a good thing secretly dreams of the annihilation of Israel. Big media is not giving you the story. Instead they have the Muslim Brotherhood’s US group on, CAIR, calling in from Egypt (and mis-identifying Ahmed Rehab of CAIR as a “democracy activist”). And that was FOX. It’s that bad.

    Obama’s hard left operatives, like frequent White House visitor CODE PINK, are in Egypt now. Coincidence? Methinks not. I don’t believe Obama “lost Egypt”; I believe he kicked it to the curb.

  23. Sherman Tank…………………..
    With this huge crack in the dam NOW might be an excellent time to force Soetoro to fight on MULTIPLE FRONTS. LOT LESS of his GOONS around, and LOTS OF SHI# behind the dam. They too must fight a multi fronted battle. They are easier to flank,and get behind, when they are DIVIDED, AND by the way……TAKE NO PRISONERS……

  24. Vinson’s opinion elevates the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, and echoes the advice J Salia gave the incoming Congressional Reps that these would be very important. Each signals the reversal of the progressive trend for more Federal control of our lives.

  25. Happy Birthday, Citizen WElls!
    Blessings, good health, happiness and many returns of the Day.

    Re Egypt:


    and his letter of support and introduction:


    how soon we forget.

  26. Sherman Tank…………………….
    Befor I went to the Navy in late 1951, I spent about 18 months in Service Company, H&S Batallion, 293rd Infantry Reg, of the 38th Division, of A3. Got a lot of training on the trusty M1 Garand, and .50 cal machine guns, along wqith a lot of other choice little toys.

  27. Arizona rocks, but not so sure about what the federal lawmakers are considering…

    Lawmakers Introduce Birthright Citizenship Bills
    Federal and state lawmakers introduced legislation last week that tackles the issue of birthright citizenship. In Arizona, state Senator Ron Gould and state Representative John Kavanagh introduced two bills to change how Arizona defines state citizenship. The first bill seeks to define an Arizona citizen as someone lawfully domiciled in Arizona who is born in the U.S. and is subject to the jurisdiction thereof. (SB 1309; HB 2561) The second bill directs the State of Arizona into a state compact, subject to Congressional approval, under which the member states will issue different birth certificates for those who qualify as citizens of the state. (HB 2562; SB 1308) In developing the legislation, Gould and Kavanagh worked with Senate President Russell Pearce, who has been active on this issue for years and led the effort to pass SB 1070 in Arizona last year. These bills are part of an agreement made between state legislators from numerous states to work together to eliminate the practice of granting birthright citizenship regardless of the immigration status of the parents.

    On the national level, Republican Senators David Vitter (LA) and Rand Paul (KY) proposed a constitutional amendment to restrict birthright citizenship late last week. (S.J. Res. 2) The proposal would amend the constitution so that children born in the U.S. are only considered automatic citizens if one parent is a U.S. citizen, one parent is a legal immigrant, or one parent is a non-immigrant active member of the Armed Forces. (Fox News, January 28, 2011) Senator Vitter voiced concern that the assurance of children of illegal aliens becoming citizens automatically is continuing to ratchet up illegal immigration numbers. “Closing this loophole will not prevent them from becoming citizens, but will ensure that they have to go through the same process as anyone else who wants to become an American citizen,” Senator Vitter said.
    Would they consider a child having only 1 citizen parent a natural born citizen?

  28. Calling all Obama supporters.
    Head for the exit if you think you can make it.
    The elevators and escalators on the left are going down.

  29. We can tolerate the fall of some third world countries, because most would suck us dry of all of our resources and anything else of value,but cannot allow Egypt, or Israel to be overrun by the ISLAMIC JIHADISTS.
    I wonder how long it would take Winchester, Remington, and PMC together to produce about 500,000,000 rounds of rifle ammo. That would guarantee every JIHADIST at least two chances to become a MARTYR. I know a lot of people who would be more than happy to bestow martyrdom on any JIHADISTS who ASK for it.

  30. http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article247992.ece

    VIENNA: The control systems of Iran’s Bushehr nuclear plant have been penetrated by a computer worm unleashed last year, according to a foreign intelligence report that warns of a possible Chernobyl-like disaster once the site becomes fully operational.

    With control systems disabled by the virus, the reactor would have the force of a “small nuclear bomb,” it said.

    “The minimum possible damage would be a meltdown of the reactor,” it says. “However, external damage and massive environmental destruction could also occur … similar to the Chernobyl disaster.” The virus, known as Stuxnet, has the ability to send centrifuges spinning out of control and temporarily crippled Iran’s uranium enrichment program. It is believed to have been the work of Israel or the United States, two nations convinced that Iran wants to turn nuclear fuel into weapons-grade uranium.

  31. NOW ON HARDBALL- MSNBC – Chris Matthews is going to have a Birther fit.

  32. http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/01/30/the-american-lefts-role-in-leading-mid-east-regime-change/

    As the world watches Egypt crumble into chaos, with over 100 dead and 2000 injured, the Obama administration continues to be somewhat and rather curiously ambivalent. On the one hand, on Friday, Vice President Biden came to the defense of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, saying that he shouldn’t step aside. Yet, on the same day, the Telegraph (ala Wikileaks) reported that the U.S. had planned “regime change” for the “past three years” while both President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton demand that internet be restored to the Egyptian protesters.

    For all the lack of clarity on where the Obama administration stands, one thing is becoming more and more clear: Signs are beginning to point more toward the likelihood that President Obama’s State Department, unions, as well as Left-leaning media corporations are more directly involved in helping to ignite the Mid-East turmoil than they are publicly admitting.

  33. http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/01/30/obama-and-u-s-on-sidelines-as-egypt-rises-up/

    According to the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project, Obama has suffered a significant fall in Egyptian public opinion since his Cairo speech. Whereas 38 percent of Egyptian adults approved of Obama’s International policies in 2009, only 17 percent approved a year later. (The 2009 poll was conducted between May 24 and June 11, 2009; Obama spoke in Cairo on June 4, 2009.)

    Notably, U.S. favorability in Egypt was lower in 2010 than in 2007 and 2008, the last two year of George W. Bush’s presidency. Whereas, 22 percent of Egyptian adults had a favorable view of the U.S. in 2008, and 27 percent had a favorable view in 2009, only 17 percent had a favorable view in 2010.

  34. Hey Old Salt, One of my FB friends posted this on FB and I am reposting it here. You might appreciate it given the fact you have been in the military and you might know a thing or two about good old boys in Texas. It’s long but funny. There may even be a few parallels to current national politics 🙂

  35. ms.helga | January 31, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    NOW ON HARDBALL- MSNBC – Chris Matthews is going to have a Birther fit.
    Helga…He now is openly more worried about how Obama can hide it more than knowing what the truth is, whatever that may be. It’s insane.

    GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. Happy Birthday, CW, and thank you for all you have done with this site and the information and involvement it provides for everyday citizens.

    Many blessings on your birthday.


  38. How deep does his rabbit hole go?…

  39. [Judge uses Obama’s words against him]
    So Obungo knew it was un Constituional and signed it anyway.
    What a Fraud!

  40. http://www.voltairenet.org/article166759.html
    Stanley Dunham the grandfather reminds me of Henry Kissinger.

  41. Rosemary Woodhouse

    I must learn to type slower or proof-read before I “Post Comment”. Let’s begin again…

    Will Sotomeyor and Kagen be forced to recuse themselves when this reaches SCOTUS? Let’s face it, the sole reason they were appointed was to support Pharaoh’s regime, and Republicans were too wussified to refuse the wishes of The Boy Pharaoh.

    And I would be remiss if I neglected to wish CW a very happy birthday. Thanks for providing this forum.

  42. Why is it that media in US ignores massive protests of tea party in DC and calls for Obama to show his birth certificate, but give wall to wall coverage to Egypt?

  43. GBAmerica – the article you posted above – ttp://patriotdems.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/who-are-americas-oligarchs/ – is a MUST READ! Outstanding post.

    Here’s a snippet –

    In his book, Promoting Polyarchy, William Robinson describes the formation of a new hegemonic bloc that has emerged to lead the process of globalization. This bloc consists of various economic and political forces that have become the dominant sector of the ruling class throughout the developed world. The politics and policies of this ruling bloc are conditioned by the new global structure of accumulation and production. This historic bloc is composed of the transnational corporations and financial institutions, supranational economic planning agencies, major forces in the dominant political parties, media conglomerates, and technocratic elites in the Third World.

    The new integrated circuits of world production and finance are possible because information technologies allow the centralization of decision making along with a geographic decentralization of production. The results are world mobility for investments, markets,and production, which leads globalists to harmonize a wide range of fiscal, monetary and industrial policies across national borders. Therefore, it is the logic of global accumulation, rather than national accumulation, that guides the political and economic behavior of the ruling bloc. (Emphasis mine)

    In the U.S., the globalist ruling bloc has three main factions: neo-liberal structuralists; free-market conservatives, and liberal regulationists. Their debates dominate Washington and don’t correspond to the familiar political categories of the industrial era. The same is true of the anti-globalist camp, which contains both the anti-imperialist left and the reactionary populous right.

    The globalists consolidated ideologically in the early 1980s under the policy of the Washington Consensus. Developed to deal with the debt crisis in Latin America and Mexico, its main principles were privatization, free trade, high interest rates, and a sharply diminished role for the state in economic activity and social services. This became the policy mantra of the Reagan revolution, and a siren call for the new Democrats. However, the recent Asian crisis has exposed important contradictions and major splits in the globalists camp. Foremost is the question of how best to structure the new world economy, with the debate centered on IMF policies.
    I hope my html tag worked, if not, oh well.

  44. by george, it did for the most part.

    Happy Birthday, CW!

  45. HAPPY HAPPY bday Citizen Wells! I come here everyday to stay informed. Thank you for your hard work. It is much appreciated!!!

  46. Rosemary Woodhouse | January 31, 2011 at 9:09 pm |
    I must learn to type slower or proof-read before I “Post Comment”. Let’s begin again…
    You and me both Rosemary…I go back and read some of my posts and they look like they were written by a third grader, gramatically speaking… I wouldn’t worry about it… I think that we all just get carried away from our brilliant thinking 🙂 … in our zeal to get it down in black and white all proper grammar goes out the window…





  49. C.W.

  50. JS – That was a wonderful 90 minutes. I hope everyone here will take the time to listen. The plan would turn the economy around in a heart-beat. I noticed too that the Rothschilds are mentioned as the bad guys.
    God Bless and Happy Birthday CW


    You are welcome Ms. Helga….glad you enjoyed it! 🙂

  51. Truth Now | January 31, 2011 at 9:53 pm |



  52. On the White House’s blog, spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter writes: “ Today’s ruling – issued by Judge Vinson in the Northern District of Florida – is a plain case of judicial overreaching .” She continues: “Those who claim that the “individual responsibility” provision exceeds Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce because it penalizes “inactivity” are simply wrong. Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”

  53. Media shouts about freedom in Egypt but ignore that women will lose their current rights if Muslim brotherhood takes over.

  54. http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-obama/2011/01/30/egypt-burnsobama-parties-watches-b-ball

    As Egypt continues to burn… Islamic radicals escaped from prison, the Muslim Brotherhood joined Elbaradei on the street, and socialists continued to mobilze protests in Cairo… Barack Obama watched basketball and partied on Saturday.

    Kristinn reported this:

    As thirty years of United States Middle East strategy teeters on collapse, Barack Obama spent Saturday night at a going away party for David Axelrod who is leaving the administration to set up Obama’s reelection campaign in Chicago.

  55. Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt must take matters into their own hands and annihilate the Radical muslim Terrorist regimes in the Middle East.

  56. Late in getting here today! I want to join with the many others in wishing CW a very Happy Birthday and also thanking him for maintaining this site for us to share thoughts! May God bless you and give you many more years.

    Here is a point about the judge’s ruling that I think is great: Obamacare in its ENTIRETY has been declared unconstitutional because the bill lacked a severability clause. Sometime ago when the bill was passed I remember reading that a severability clause had been omitted, no doubt, inadvertently.

    So we had an over eager Democratic Congress which couldn’t push this massive legislation through fast enough – so fast that we, the public, did not even have time to read it. In so doing, they omitted a clause that could have allowed only a part to be declared unconstitutional. The big joke is on them and it serves them right. Evidently they didn’t even read it enough to check on such an important matter. Now the chickens have come home to roost.

  57. Lack of the severability clause was important, but Judge Vinson also relied on defendent’s strong assertions that the individual mandate was essential, and on the complexity of the bill, making Court efforts to partition it ill-advised.

  58. ElBaradei Lies

    Self appointed spokesman of the Egyptian revolution Mohamed ElBaradei lies his head off about the role of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Egyptian unrest and the likely orientation of a future Egyptian Government.

    According to ElBaradei, the Muslim Brotherhood is not a major player in the troubles and the next Egyptian government will be both “moderate” and pro American.

    Don’t buy a used car from this man.


  59. Bill G | January 31, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
    Lack of the severability clause was important, but Judge Vinson also relied on defendent’s strong assertions that the individual mandate was essential, and on the complexity of the bill, making Court efforts to partition it ill-advised.
    Agreed, but the omission of the clause makes it harder for the Obama administration to rebut the Judge’s decision. How this will all play out when it goes to SCOTUS remains to be seen.

  60. El Baradei is a CFR stooge. Egyptian’s are not going trade one NWO stooge for another.

    The venom spewed by a few here about the Egyptian uprising I pray others will ignore and see it for the ugliness it represents. Until one has lived a day in these people’s shoes, one would be wise to keep their venom to themselves. Such ugliness has no place in polite society.

  61. CW. Hoping you are having a great birthday.. TY for all you do to bring us the real news

  62. Happy Birthday CW! May the Lord bless you for all you are doing!

  63. Wow – I almost missed it – Happy Birthday CW. Hope you had a great day.

  64. Happy Birthday CW. I am very happy for the Judgment in my Hometown of Pensacola, FL here. Hopefully the Supreme Court will pass the same Ruling.

  65. Helen,
    Read post at 10:53,let me know what you think.
    Follow the money.

  66. http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/01/31/muslim-brotherhood-arabs-will-topple-tyrants-allied-us

    The leader of Jordan’s powerful Muslim Brotherhood warned Saturday that unrest in Egypt will spread across the Mideast and Arabs will topple leaders allied with the United States.

    Hammam Saeed’s comments were made at a protest outside the Egyptian Embassy in Amman, inspired by massive rallies in neighboring Egypt demanding the downfall of the country’s longtime president, Hosni Mubarak.

  67. Crystal…………………….
    Good story. Cracked me up big time. I served in both military organisations with at least one ot two people from Texas. They all talk alike. The last one I served with was from Waco,and he lived to FIGHT. Whenever he sat down in a gin mill it wasn’t very long until you heard somebody yell “Thems FIGHTIN words where ah come from.” He was so damn skinney that I used to wonder if he would just dissapear if he ever turned sideways. We used to hit the beach in a group, and do our beer inhalation as a group. Once in awhile somebody would dissapear from the group (UNEXPLAINED) but we all KNEW why. But they always managed to get back to the ship before the expiration of LIBERTY at 0700. The military services are just what a person makes of them. You can be continually in trouble or you can enjoy yourself, big time. Of course it is not enjoyable when an enemy is trying to either sink you, or otherwise kill you. But this sort of thing over an extended period of time sometimes leads to excessive amounts of alcohol being ingested by everyone involved. Most commands just put the drunken people in a cargo net and hoist them aboard,and then everybody helps carry them to their bunks. They are usually left to sleep of their intoxication. Most are never even reprimanded. That is what COHESION is all about. In a group if there is somebody who doesn’t fit in or is otherwise a loner he/she usually ends up with a transfer to another duty station.These days it is called DON’T ASK,.. DON’T TELL The COs know the REASONS for it,and unless a particular person had a real problem he usually was not penalised. Good COs know this. But when the alcohol starts to cause an impedance in the expected performance of a person or when he/she can’t fit in then that person was indeed in trouble. Big time. When you see bodies that are literally in pieces, or have entrails out in the open it can eventually effect everyone.Some moreso than others.Not pleasant at all.

  68. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4020589,00.html

    Officials in Jerusalem believe that Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak will survive the riots currently raging across Egypt, an Israeli minister told Time Magazine.

  69. http://www.middle-east-online.com/ENGLISH/?id=43932

    Israel expects the regime of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak will survive democracy protests that have shaken the country over the past three days, government officials and analysts said.

  70. Happy belated birthday, CW.
    Hoping that the year will be a healthy and happy one for you.
    Praying that all of your dreams and wishes come true.
    Thank you for creating an environment in which communication and knowledge flourish and where the quest for truth is sacred.

  71. http://kodanda.newsvine.com/_news/2011/01/28/5940851-why-mubarak-will-survive-the-protests-and-what-happens-if-he-doesnt

    Opposition to Hosni Mubarak has always existed, explains Jean-Noel Ferrie of France’s national scientific research center (CNRS). And though the criticism and public demonstrations have reached a new level, Ferrie cautions against quick comparisons to what happened in Tunisia. “It would be wrong to compare his unpopularity with Ben Ali’s.”

    Mubarak came to power after the assassination of Anwar Sadat in 1981. With his military background, and stature as a hero during the 1973 war, he won the army’s support, which has been a key element in the regime’s survival, right up to the present moment. “It is unlikely that protesters can oust him without facing the military first,” says Ferrie. There is another reason Mubarak can count on the army’s support: the military is very rich and controls many companies, and doesn’t want to jeopardize these advantages.

  72. http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=205576

    “I have no doubt that the situation in Egypt is under control,” Labor MK Binyamin Ben-Eliezer told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.

    “The intelligence services, which are sophisticated, expected this after what happened in a different situation in Tunisia. [Mubarak] is allowing people to let off steam. He hasn’t used police. It’s all under control. I believe in complete faith that it won’t be a problem.”

    Ben-Eliezer, a former defense minister, is considered the Israeli politician closest to Mubarak.

  73. I think that if Mubarek does what is right by his people he will survive. I am really gladdened by the fact that Israel has excercised restraint. I trust their JUDGEMENT in this regard. Like in France they pillage, destroy a lot of property, yell, scream, throw rocks. loot stores,and set cars on fire. So what else is new?Lots to do. Something for everybody.

  74. oldsalt79 | February 1, 2011 at 12:40 am |
    I think that if Mubarek does what is right by his people he will survive. I am really gladdened by the fact that Israel has excercised restraint. I trust their JUDGEMENT in this regard. Like in France they pillage, destroy a lot of property, yell, scream, throw rocks. loot stores,and set cars on fire. So what else is new?Lots to do. Something for everybody.
    They are here too, Old Salt. They are just waiting to be told when to roll.

  75. So, judging from her statement, I assume that the ultra-left wing Helen believes that it is ok for a man who is in the pay of Iran to take over in Egypt.

    I also assume that Helen does not object that MB will take over and force women into wearing the Burqa; I assume that she does not object to little girls having their clitoris removed complete with all of the health consequences.

    At the same time I assume that Helen agreed with the bombing of the Coptic Church as people were leaving the midnight Mass.

    All in all, I have not seen any comments that were full of hate or lacked understanding of the Egyptian situation. The transition to a democracy that is wanted by the people will not happen if MB gain control.

    It is far better to be wary of anything stated by the fascist Al Jazeera at this point in time. They cannot be trusted since they are shills for MB.

  76. Jacqlyn Smith

    Hi Ms. Helga……I know you are interested in this because you listened to the last conference call I posted here…..you will enjoy this one also….take a listen…I will try to post the link below….don’t know if it will work for you….it did work for me……

    [audio src="https://www.freeconferencing.com/playback.html?cn=94-43-28-63&e=2243221200000&cid=conferences/-17-65-6759-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-67126-17-65-67-17-65-6783-17-65-6753122121-17-65-67-17-65-670.mp3" /]

  77. Good Morning! Off to VA today.

  78. Mike Evans: Gov. Abercrombie Used a Search Warrant to Acquire Obama’s Missing Birth Certificate

  79. From Mother Jones:

    …Burges’ new version raises the bar. It notes that the affidavit must be accompanied by “an original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance.” (The other documentation required would include a list “that identifies the candidate’s places of residence in the United States for the preceding fourteen years.”) And the law states that if the candidate fails to submit these records, the secretary of state “shall not” place his or her name on state ballot…..

  80. The above article was put up yesterday and has 562 comments. Interesting. Okay, I’m off to see the wizard.

  81. Jacqlyn Smith

    Okay….I know some here will knock this but here it is anyway…..wouldn’t it be grand if this all came to light and soon……


    Tuesday, February 1, 2011
    Nesara Details

    The NESARA global prosperity programmes are on the cusp of being announced and activated.

    One of the protected funds involved is called The Saint Germain World Trust. This fund contains deliverable precious metals and currencies worth upwards of one quattuordecillion USA dollars. The word quattuordecillion is sometimes spelled quatrodecillion. It means ten thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, million dollars. Or $1 with forty noughts after it.


    Amongst other projects, this money will be used to buy out all oil corporations, banks and pharmaceutical cartels. And it will zero out (permanently cancel) all personal, corporate and national debts worldwide.

    The NESARA money was originally scheduled to be released in the year 2000, but the Bush White House and its banking and legal conspirators worldwide prevented the disbursement. And through corporate pan-global control of mainstream media outlets, nearly all knowledge of NESARA’s existence was suppressed. This is now changing.

    When the NESARA global prosperity programmes are openly and publicly announced, perhaps during January or February 2011, they will permanently change human civilisation in every money-related way.

    The whole human population will benefit from NESARA. Earth is a most abundant planet. There is more than enough gold-backed human money currently in existence on Earth for each and every human being to be a GBP millionaire without debts of any kind. GBP = Great Britain Pound. NESARA is about sharing the resources of the planet around fairly. And NESARA is about putting benevolent banking systems in place worldwide to deliver this monetary fairness. No individual anywhere on Earth will be beyond the reach of the NESARA wealth redistribution programmes. And no individual or organisation anywhere on Earth will be able to stop it.

    NESARA will cancel all credit card, mortgage and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government corruption worldwide. Income tax will be abolished. A new 14% flat rate tax on non-essential new items will provide the revenue stream for national governments. There will be increased benefits for senior citizens. In the USA, there will be a return to Constitutional Law at every level of the legal system.

    President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and the constitutionally illegal cabal which pulls their strings will be removed from office with immediate effect, and long before the end of their present term. So will all members of Congress and their Khazar Zionist bosses. They will be replaced with constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates, thought to be Congressman Dennis Kucinich (Democrat – Ohio) and Congressman Ron Paul (Republican – Texas). There will be new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days of NESARA’s announcement. These elections will be carefully monitored to prevent vote theft and other illegal election activities by special interest groups.

    A new USA Treasury rainbow currency will come into being, backed by gold, silver, and platinum precious metals. A new USA Treasury Bank System will be initiated in alignment with Constitutional Law. The Federal Reserve Board System will be abolished. Personal financial privacy will be restored. All judges and attorneys will be retrained in Constitutional Law. All aggressive USA government military actions worldwide will cease and global peace will be established. Every American citizen over the age of 21 will receive $100,000 a month for 11 years, but the Farmers’ claims will be paid first. Here, the settlements will include debt forgiveness of $300,000 (including mortgages, credit cards and loans) for each farming family. Similar reforms will take place in every country in the world. Enormous sums of money will be made available for humanitarian purposes. New hitherto suppressed technologies such as free energy devices, pollution cleanup equipment and sonic healing machines will be released for the use of all.

    Further background details and links about the NESARA global prosperity programmes and their history can be found further down this present blog page, and from James Rink here, from Patrick Bellringer here and from Mark Clarke here. In response to a critical interlocutor, Patrick Bellringer explains the legal history of the NESARA funding processes here (16/17.06.08). And there is a useful compilation of NESARA-related material at Detailshere.com here.

    Some information about USA White House corruption which intersects with America’s blocking of the global NESARA reforms can be found on other pages of this blog here (Citibank scandal), here (Bush White House begins to disintegrate) and here (The crucifixion of Chief Justice John Glover Roberts).

  82. Jacqlyn Smith | February 1, 2011 at 5:37 am |

    The NESARA global prosperity programmes are on the cusp of being announced and activated.

    And no individual or organisation anywhere on Earth will be able to stop it.
    And you think this is a good thing? How and why? What happens to people’s current savings? What is so good about collapsing the pharmaceutical companies? My wife works for a pharmaceutical company. Will she lose her job at the whim of of a few freaks?

  83. Thanks hrmfc.

    “where the quest for truth is sacred.”

    That is what we aim for and what this country needs.

  84. Jacqlyn Smith | February 1, 2011 at 5:37 am |

    They will be replaced with constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates, thought to be Congressman Dennis Kucinich (Democrat – Ohio) and Congressman Ron Paul (Republican – Texas).
    Just arbitrarily replaced by whom? Where are they getting this power? What if we don’t want to give them that power? They are just going to tell us how it’s going to be? What happens to people’s life savings with this new currency? Why do you want to further push the collapse of our system to what appears to be a communist power? Are you a communist?

  85. Jacqlyn Smith | February 1, 2011 at 5:37 am |
    Okay….I know some here will knock this but here it is anyway…..wouldn’t it be grand if this all came to light and soon……

    …………So will all members of Congress and their Khazar Zionist bosses.
    You’ve got to be kidding me.

  86. Jacqlyn Smith | February 1, 2011 at 5:37 am |

    Every American citizen over the age of 21 will receive $100,000 a month for 11 years, but the Farmers’ claims will be paid first. Here, the settlements will include debt forgiveness of $300,000
    ….and then we’ll all live happily ever after… The End.

  87. Stunning, GBAmerica! Folks were sniffing around the escrow, BankHo, the plethora of addresses related to this family, the lengthy number of SS accounts and microfinancing way back in 2008. It is nice to see someone working this ‘forgotten’ angle.

    My hunch, both women are alive and well.

    Great find!

  88. Paxson………….Ref 12:48 AM
    Right, but the deciding difference is this is the US not Egypt. Should those morons attempt such a riot here it is very possible that they could find themselves up against one hell of a bunch of TRAINED RIFLEMEN, who will be also be in the street for the purpose of defending the lives of their families.

  89. Typo OMIT word “be “following will

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