No Obama birth certificate, Obama must be arrested and removed immediately, Impeachment not necessary or applicable

No Obama birth certificate, Obama must be arrested and removed immediately, Impeachment not necessary or applicable

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

The is no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. Obama is a usurper and is not eligible for the office of president. Impeachment is not necessary or applicable. Obama must immediately resign or immediately be arrested and removed from the White House.

The Governor of Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie has stated that there is no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii.

Tim Adams, a clerk in the Hawaii elections office in 2008 has signed an affidavit stating that there was no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii then.

I have no verification that the information in the following article is correct. However, it seems plausible.

From NewsFlavor January 25, 2011.

“After repeated attempts to obtain a followup response to our last communication, our D.C. Insider gives little more than a brief warning to back off the many questions surrounding Barack Obama’s birth and citizenship.

Author’s Note:  This brief email was the only response finally received from Insider after multiple attempts to obtain follow up responses to our last communication.  I continue to make requests for further clarification.  It should be noted that within Insider’s previous response, they made mention of increased activity and concern surrounding the myriad Obama “birther” questions.  Following that communication, there followed substantially more chatter even by more mainstream media sources regarding the subject.  After some consideration I have decided to publish this message – and continue researching the information surrounding the birth of our current president.  As Insider admits in this most recent message – “there is something there.””

“Insider:  Can’t respond much at this time.  Too busy with all of the chaos coming at us these days.  May be out of work soon! Crazy stuff.  Simply urge you to lay off the birther angle at this time.  Strongly urge.  To proceed is at your own peril.  Please take warning seriously.  This is not a small town cop shop situation here.  Let someone else try and make name on this one.”

Read more:

http://newsflavor.com/world/usa-canada/white-house-insider-proceed-at-your-own-peril/#ixzz1C7cO666s

I have been receiving death threats since early 2008. Unlike Nazi Germany, we have not surrendered our guns or given a totalitarian regime carte blanche. I have been proceeding at my own peril and will continue to do so.

202 responses to “No Obama birth certificate, Obama must be arrested and removed immediately, Impeachment not necessary or applicable

  1. AMEN!

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  2. “Obama must be arrested and removed immediately”

    Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Good Morning FS!

    I’ll be back later. Zach

  4. You probably remember back in 2008 when I wrote that Obama had to get
    elected to avoid criminal prosecution of his Chicago corruption with Rezko & Blagojevich
    and other legal matters, including, but not limited to, fraud in regard to eligibility.

  5. CW is not the type of man to make thoughtless statements. The peril that he speaks of in this article is very real. We must unite in our demand that BO be brought to Justice now!

    All I can say to those people who think they are safe from an assault by the BO regime is that is what I thought too when I was still blogging annonymously thinking that they would never come for me.

    BO is attempting to carry out Bill Ayers plan to murder and imprison millions of Americans and if We the People don’t stop him now, he will succeed.

    Violent Plots of BO Mentor Bill Ayers

  6. http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/hb2544p.htm

    [2. A sworn statement attesting that the candidate has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate’s allegiance is solely to the United States of America.]

    [has not held dual or multiple citizenships]

    If this passes, forget the birth certificate , British Born Subject Obungo is done!
    And so are the rest of those potential Usurpers…

  7. ms.helga | January 26, 2011 at 9:11 am |

    FS – I think I finally realize what you have been persistent about. A MUST READ –

    http://www.perkel.com/politics/issues/fourth.htm

    Exactly. Thanks for the link Ms. Helga.

    “There are times when the People have to assert their will directly and overrule the Government and assert the supremacy of the will of the People over the will of the Government. “

  8. Lawyers for the Hollister v Soetoro (Obama) case say Supremes broke rule by failing to respond to the recusal motion for Kagan and Sotomayor.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/377/025/Lawyers_for_the_Hollister_v_Soetoro_Obama_case_say_Supremes_broke_rule_by_failing_to_respond_to_the_recusal_motion_for_Kagan_and_Sotomayor..html

  9. Bill Cutting | January 26, 2011 at 11:27 am |
    If this passes, forget the birth certificate , British Born Subject Obungo is done!
    And so are the rest of those potential Usurpers…
    *********************************
    Thanks for the link, Bill. The only thing is that this type of bill will only serve to keep him off the ballot in 2012 – which would certainly be an achievement.
    However, what about the here and now and the intervening two years? He
    intends to rule by edict – Executive and Secretarial Orders! He can take this country so far down – into slavery – if some kind of action isn’t taken soon.

  10. Speaking of Hawaii, its Democratic governor, Neil Abercrombie, recently admitted that they have been unable to track down Obama’s actual birth certificate. And while I acknowledge that even some conservative pundits have joined the left-wing knuckleheads in dismissing a certain number of patriots as “birthers,” the fact remains that the Founding Fathers wouldn’t have stipulated prerequisites to being president if they hadn’t thought it mattered.

    The good news for liberals is that even though nobody has been able to turn up the official document, they have sworn testimony by several people who just happened to have been in the Honolulu delivery room on Aug. 4, 1961. They include Rahm Emanuel, Harry Reid, Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, Henry Waxman, Bill Maher and Chris Matthews. The attending physician was Dr. Keith Olbermann, and the head nurse was Nancy Pelosi.

    —Burt Prelutsky

  11. citizenwells | January 26, 2011 at 11:21 am | You probably remember back in 2008 when I wrote that Obama had to get
    elected to avoid criminal prosecution of his Chicago corruption with Rezko & Blagojevich
    and other legal matters, including, but not limited to, fraud in regard to eligibility.
    ——————————————————-
    Yes. BO controls Holder’s dept of injustice, but he does NOT control our State and County Courts. We the People must bring charges against BO and his local co-conspirators in our local County Courts.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/03/two-ideas-to-empower-patriots-by.html

    Leo the Lawyer said…
    To further clarify the point: If you live in a County with a Conservative Constitutionalist Attorney General, by all means see if you can get the Attorney General’s cooperation in presenting your criminal information against BO & his co-conspirators to the Grand Jury, i.e., you don’t need to bypass the Attorney General if he is on your side, the side of Our Constitution.

  12. “Open Letter to Erick Erickson of RedState.com”

    “THERE IS NO DENYING THE OBAMA ELIGIBILITY QUESTION, SO WHY IS HE?”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/26/open-letter-to-erick-erickson-of-redstate-com/

  13. Zach Jones | January 26, 2011 at 11:20 am |

    “Obama must be arrested and removed immediately”

    Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!

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    Indeed Zero “should” be arrested and removed.

    But with the utmost love and respect – just how do you do that. What person or agency or posse has the theoretical authority to do that. And even if there is a theory, how does it practically work.

    Are we letting frustration and ego get the better of us.?

    I wish I were wrong but I have thrown out this challenge before: I will let you devise ANYTHING, no constraints, no restraints. Tell me how to do this and I believe I can blow your plan out of the water. So convincingly that you will even readily concede I am right.

    Hint: Power is as power does. Legality or theory plays NO ROLE.

  14. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 11:41 am |

    ms.helga | January 26, 2011 at 9:11 am |

    FS – I think I finally realize what you have been persistent about. A MUST READ –

    http://www.perkel.com/politics/issues/fourth.htm

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    Yes this is a good site and a good read. It talks about theory. But at least since the last major codification of the Federal Court Regulations in the 1940’s this concept has been INOPERATIVE.

    The fix to “the problem” is a two-step process.

    1. First, the regulations and training and processes and procedures need to be put in place. Academia has to embrace this and pump out new lawyers. It will probably take a generation or two before this becomes widely workable.

    2. Then we can undertake selected application of this to move the country more back towards a We The People proposition.

    If you want something to happen fast it will take a physical violent revolution. If you are willing to be more patient, a velvet revolution (evolution) might work.

    This is the “whole story” and the “rest of the story”. Reporting on parts of stories leads to confusion and false hopes. But that’s just me. I am thorough like that.

  15. Evidently BO is afraid that the BC that he had forged will not withstand Criminal Investigation otherwise he would have released the forged BC that he has had curing for the past 2 years.

    BO, though an idiot has sense enough, or his puppet masters have sense enough to know that the Powers that Be have all the evidence that they need to arrest him.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  16. A hilarious aside to Rahm Emanuel’s seeking the mayoral seat in
    Chicago, a local conservative talk show co-host fostered the
    possibility that Rahm may be ruled eligible to run for the office
    but NOT eligible to vote in that election.
    Their must be a word or term for this situation.
    Anyone?

  17. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 11:21 am |

    All I can say to those people who think they are safe from an assault by the BO regime is that is what I thought too when I was still blogging annonymously thinking that they would never come for me.

    BO is attempting to carry out Bill Ayers plan to murder and imprison millions of Americans and if We the People don’t stop him now, he will succeed.

    =======================================

    I believe this with all my heart. Zero is not just an incompetent or a racial token or any of that. He and/or his handlers are UP TO NO GOOD.

    This is THE THING that 99% of the people do not understand. Our current crisis is not just another swing of the political pendulum – SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG!

  18. B. HUSSEIN OBAMA IS NO RONALD REAGAN.

    Attention B. Hussein Obama: The Honeymoon is over.

    B. Hussein Obama is a dangerous and calculating fraudster. He premeditatingly took advantage of the so-called “Honeymoon” period when he first got elected. He knew full well what his agenda was and that this so-called “Honeymoon” time would be his best bet, along with Pelosi and Reid to ram and shove through his policies against the American people DURING A TIME that the American people would be given that now infamous line: GIVE HIM A CHANCE HE JUST TOOK OFFICE! It was *calculated* because he *knew* that once the People learned of HIS socialist ways and socialist agenda to sell-out America to the lowest bidders and to further George Soros’s global economy crap, we would never stand for it.

    Pretty cleaver don’t you think? B. Hussein Obama wants to EXTEND HIS HONEYMOON BI-PARTISANSHIP PLOY FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, sort of a free campaign run to convince voters he should get another 4 years! NOT!!

    It is not coincidence that B. Hussein Obama was reading up on PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN during his last two vacations! The advice B. Hussein Obama getting is a psychological mind-f**k exercise against the American people. Think about it, because he’s only got two years left, he is now invoking a type of quasi-HONEYMOON period again; this HONEYMOON mentality takes place during the State of the Union message. He is remaking himself in such a way that he gets reelected for the same reason he claimed he got elected in the first place: CENTRIST. He again needs to convince the Nation that he is one of us – NOT. That he governs from the Middle – NOT. That he wants all the things for America that America wants for ourselves – NOT.

    America does not want groping our genitals. America doesn’t want NAFTA. America doesn’t want outsourcing of American jobs. America doesn’t want Unions. America doesn’t want Obamacare. America doesn’t want invasion of our back gardens. America doesn’t want government intrusion into our homes and personal lives. America doesn’t want destruction of our Civil Liberties. America doesn’t need Obama. America doesn’t want Obama.

    THE HONEYMOON IS OVER.

  19. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/03/two-ideas-to-empower-patriots-by.html

    To further clarify the point: If you live in a County with a Conservative Constitutionalist Attorney General, by all means see if you can get the Attorney General’s cooperation in presenting your criminal information against BO & his co-conspirators to the Grand Jury, i.e., you don’t need to bypass the Attorney General if he is on your side, the side of Our Constitution.

  20. CABBY and SSOO

    I tacked on a comment to a discussion you were having on the last thread. Please read. Hopefully it explains a lot.

  21. BO already committed fraud when he had a forged COLB posted on the internet and alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. Abercrombie now admitting that there is no BC for BO on file in Hawaii is further evidence of fraud for which BO should be indicted now.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html


  22. BO, though an idiot has sense enough, or his puppet masters have sense enough to know that the Powers that Be (PTBs) in the USA have all the evidence that they need to arrest him.

  23. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 12:32 pm |

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    Certainly from a normal citizen’s viewpoint Zero is certainly “in this” up to his eyebrows.

    But you must know – and everyday citizens cringe – lawyers love to play with words (the meaning of “is”). Zero has therefore gone to great lengths to distance himself from this and maintain an aura of Plausible Deniability. I believe it to be correct that ALL statements about his birth and certificates has come from his Flying Minkeys and none from him. He has not even talked about his birth in his books.

    There are a LOT of people that can be scape goats and thrown under the bus before the hangman’s noose gets anywhere near the Obamessiah.

    And please don’t quote RICO laws. This is not about any laws. This is 100% about a popular RACIAL official that was elected by mob rule. In America – right now – today – Mob Rule trumps everything. Including all laws and especially the constitution.

    Can we wish it were different? Sure, but it isn’t.

    A great movement is even underway to destroy that last tiny remnant of Republic Democracy – The Electoral College system. God knows it has been watered down and perverted to a mere shadow of what the founders had intended. But even that is on it’s way out.

  24. Drudge ups the ante — no hawaii bc NOW IN RED!

  25. “Obama must be arrested and removed immediately”… the sooner the better. It sounds too good to be true though. It seems no one who can do anything about it is doing anything to get this monster our of the white house. BO must go.

  26. I meant “out” of the white house, not “our”.

  27. BO and his co-conspirators are guilty under RICO Laws. Under RICO Laws, BO is GUILTY for all of the CRIMES committed by his co-conspirators in furtherance of their Conspiracy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

    The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly referred to as RICO Act or RICO) is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.

  28. Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

  29. NBC Vic Hern | January 26, 2011 at 12:24 pm |

    A hilarious aside to Rahm Emanuel’s seeking the mayoral seat in
    Chicago, a local conservative talk show co-host fostered the
    possibility that Rahm may be ruled eligible to run for the office
    but NOT eligible to vote in that election.
    Their must be a word or term for this situation.
    Anyone?
    ________________________________________
    Old legal saying –

    “EITHER WAY IS BOTH THE SAME!”

  30. YouTube: Abercrombie Admits There Are No Obama Birth Records In Hawaii

    797 comments and a lot of angry posters.

  31. NEW INTERVIEW WITH MIKE EVANS:

    Video: Hollywood Reporter Mike Evans clarifies his comments that there is NO long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama…

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/update-hollywood-reporter-mike-evans.html

  32. Re Drudge in Red. [In the Bible, the red letter words are those of Jesus, the author of TRUTH]

    There is an ad on TV where a guy makes a snowball and rolls it downhill; it eventually grows and creates some havoc. Nice visual…I do not even remember what the ad was selling.

    But for those of us into this for some years before the snow accumulated and Leo D., CW, WND, Manning and others formed their snowballs, recent events are encouraging. The snowballs are continuing downhill and growing ever larger and more menacing to the Usurpers. This eligibility matter is growing in number and frequency and accuracy of postings and reports. I wonder if someone knows how to use Lexis or other tools to do a count over time of mentions in the media of related topics. I suspect the volume is growing; it is showing no signs of letting up. Doubters are now questioning their original view discarding ‘birthers’. I know of no patriot who has changed his mind. There appears to be no other endgame than a massive crash of snow boulders followed by Zero’s removal and resurection of American Liberty.

  33. Gulf Oil Disaster

    This is probably as near to the truth as we have right now. Claiming that Zero or any of his Flying Minkeys had anything to do with causing this is premature at best and hysterical at worst. In fact the only people saying this nowadays are “sensationalist” web sites.

    But it is beyond doubt the the current administration has milked and milked this to promote ideological agenda – to the vast detriment of the economy – and likely to the widespread and lingering effects on health and welfare of humans and animals.

    Sample quote:

    Whether the continuing disaster in the Gulf of Mexico is due to deliberate government fiat or just gross bureaucratic incompetence, the results are the same. Congress should act immediately to end the Obama administration’s overreach into this vital American industry.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/ongoing_disaster_in_the_gulf.html

  34. Philo-Publius

    GOP Rep. Paul Broun (Ga.) rebuked President Obama using perhaps the sharpest language among his Republican colleagues following the State of the Union address Tuesday night.

    Broun took to Twitter during the address, accusing the president of believing in socialism. Obama touched on several economic themes during his address, emphasizing the need for the U.S. to be competitive in the global marketplace.

    Mr. President, you don’t believe in the Constitution. You believe in socialism ,” the tweet reads

    http://tinyurl.com/6h86m5g

  35. CW,
    Simply…I just want to say thankyou for writting what needed to be written. The United States of America, the Constitution, and the rule of law can be saved, but only if WE the PEOPLE learn just how far down the rabbitt hole we have gone. Obama’s records, I mean all of them, need to investigated and released. The truth here will set the Country and the People back to a path of liberty, and hold the treasonous accountable.
    Pete

  36. The Ghost President’s Last SOTU

    The best part of the ghost president’s speech last night is that most of America did not buy it. What O’ghost says and what O’Ghost does are two different items and we know it.

    All the king’s David Plouffs and all the king’s Axelrods will never put O’Ghost back together again. All the king’s people will never put him back into the WH. Lame stream media can keep repeating that poison apples are good but no one is taking a bite any more.

    What was supposed to be his inspirational set-the-tone for his campaign last night was his swan song.

  37. http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/02/few-good-men-by-ea-leo.html

    A Call for a few Good Men & Women to Unite for Our Country

    To find standing the Court need look no further than the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States, “We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect Union… do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America.” Thus, “we the people,” individually, are established as one party among many to a contract binding upon the executors of this contract, our Constitution.

    Who then are the executors of this contract with the people?

    “We the people” in this cause assert that anyone and everyone who takes Oath to be bound by our Constitution becomes a party to this agreement.
    Foremost among the parties counterbalanced upon this executory contract is the President of the United States, the Chief Executive or Executor of the Constitutional Contract.

    When is the President bound to this contract, our Constitution? “We the People” contend that he is bound immediately, upon the taking of the Oath. In the instant case, Barack Hussein Obama became bound to our Constitutional Contract on January 20, 2009.

    As in the cause of Marbury v. Madison 5 U.S. (1 Crunch) 137, 2 L.Ed. 60 (1803

  38. Bill G | January 26, 2011 at 1:07 pm |

    =================================

    Good job, good analogy. Things are converging for a “graceful resignation”. Whether our egos will get to see the desired trial and suitable punishment for treason is far more iffy. My ego is not happy.

    We are WAY BEYOND any laws here.
    We are in POWER IS AS POWER DOES land.

  39. RICO

    How is this going to go? It certainly explains why Boehner seems to have sold out regarding the eligibility issue. One of the greatest reasons so many are willing to remain silent is that it would incriminate themselves.

    * * * * * * * * * * * *

    The Corrupt politicians in Washington are about to FALL HARD and get what they deserve.

    Slush Fund of top politicians found at Vatican Bank, Obama, Clinton, Roberts? Slush fund accounts of major US politicians identified and seized at Vatican Bank (Rome). Connection established with Daniel Dal Bosco RICO indictment, which cites Giancarlo Bruno, Silvio Berlusconi & Ban Ki Moon. On Wednesday 5th January 2011, it emerged that US establishment-related slush fund accounts had been located in, and seized from, the Vatican Bank in Rome. The source of funds for these accounts in almost every instance was found to be the US Treasury.

    Beneficiaries of the covert Vatican accounts include Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and each of the Obama children, Michelle Obama’s mother, all the Bushes and the Clintons, including Chelsea Clinton, Joe Biden, Timothy Geithner, Janet Napolitano, several US Senators, including Mitch McConnell, several US Congressmen including John Boehner, several US Military Chiefs of Staff, the US Provost Marshal, the US Judge Advocate General, the US Supreme Court Chief Justice, John Roberts, several US Judges, the Pope, and several cardinals. Big money was found in each of the accounts. The longer the beneficiaries have been in office, the greater the account balances were found to be. They range from a few MILLION USD to more than a BILLION USD in the case of John Roberts.

    The total number of slush fund accounts so far identified at the Vatican Bank is said to be between 600 and 700.


  40. Recent obot posts indicate that BO is now preparing to resign, thinking that by doing so he can escape criminal prosecution. That is NOT going to happen, obots!

    Like OJ, BO will be prosecuted in Civil and Criminal Trials for decades. Unlike OJ, BO will be sentenced to multiple life sentences without the possibility of parole.

  41. usapatriots-shout | January 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm |

    RICO

    How is this going to go?

    The Corrupt politicians in Washington are about to FALL HARD and get what they deserve.

    ———————————

    AMEN!

  42. Pete | January 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm |

    and the rule of law can be saved, but only if WE the PEOPLE learn just how far down the rabbitt hole we have gone.

    ======================================

    EXACTLY

    One of my themes is that many folks here and elsewhere are always clamoring for us to pick up tools that are available to us on the surface. But we are so far down the rabbit hole, we can’t even see the surface, let alone grasp or use any tools up there.

    We have to crawl our way painfully out of the rabbit hole first.

    It took multiple generations to dig the rabbit hole. What is a reasonable expectation for how long and how much effort it will take to dig out?

    These are the major steps on the way out:

    1. Elect legislators with Democratic Republic and Pro-Constitution chops.

    2. Kill the “entitlement economy”.

    3. Strengthen, not weaken, the original Electoral process.

    4. Repeal the 17th amendment so that States control the Senate (This is THE KEY to destroying mob rule).

    5. Clarify conflict between 9th and 10th amendments vs. 14th amendment and strengthen States Rights (includes among other things getting rid of anchor babies).

    6. Deal more thoroughly with sovereignty and border security and immigration issues.

    If along the way we can get the likes of Zero pushed out of the way – or use the plague of Zero to galvanize our resolve for the above, then God Bless Us. But Zero is the teeny tip of the iceberg.

    Do we have the will and the guts for the long haul?


  43. It is SO AMUSING to watch the obots desperately trying to spin BO’s DEMISE.

  44. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
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    Let me remind you that the rules of civil descussion clarified and put forward just yesterday – and agreed by all – disallow the use of the word Obot when describing fellow commentors.

  45. Philo-Publius

    AP fact-check says Obama SOTU doesn’t add up
    http://tinyurl.com/5rv5otn

    Why not just say he lied like he always does.

  46. CABBY AZ !

    Do you think you can inform your new friend, SSOO, that it took less than a day?

  47. PS – to all – rather than musing about amusing Obots, I am waiting for some one to tell me a scenario for ARRESTING Zero. Then we can have a discussion. Until then, there is not much to do except call people ugly names.

    Waiting – – –

  48. Regarding Vatican Bank matter, could not easily find confirmation from reliable sources regarding this. If anyone here finds such sources, please give us a link to them. [I do recall the reported intercept of Japanese men in Italy and confiscation of large denomination negotiable notes.]

  49. @NBC Vic Hern | January 26, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    The word you are looking for would be FUBAR.

  50. http://www.prisonplanet.com/abercrombie-shocked-at-failure-to-discover-obama-birth-certificate.html

    Evans’ revelations contradict official claims that Abercrombie abandoned his search for birth records relating to Obama because of privacy laws that bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent.

    The birth certificate issue has rocketed back into the public limelight in recent weeks as a result of World Net Daily and specifically New York Times best selling author Jerome Corsi’s continuing investigation into the controversy, reports that have been afforded ample coverage by the hugely popular Drudge Report website.

    On Monday, Corsi reported how, “Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.”

  51. Some say Zero is moving to the center. I watched him play basketball. Everyone knows he can only go to his left. He can go wide left, near left, fast left or slow left. Take away the left side and he shoots a wild left handed shot from the left field. He is genetically pre-disposed to not go anywhere near the right, and that includes the center. The only place he can go to the right is his favorite spot, his reflection in the mirror.

  52. Jack Cashill on Mike Evans Explosive Details About Obama’s Birth Certificate – 1/25/11

  53. A Partial List of the Crimes of BHO and his Criminal Cohorts:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

  54. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 1:37 pm |

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
    Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 1:38 pm |

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html
    Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 1:39 pm |

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com/
    Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 1:41 pm |

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/12/the-power-of-the-grand-jury-can-be-ours-once-again/

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    Dear SSOO:

    Am I allowed to comment regarding statements by anyone that I believe to be misleading and counterproductive, and possibly even dangerous. Or is the first person to post on a topic for the day considered to “own” that topic and be deemed “automatically above reproach”?

  55. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm |

    A Partial List of the Crimes of BHO and his Criminal Cohorts:

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    Dear SSOO:

    A list like this put forward in such a definitive manner wants to assume a life of it’s own as “the truth”. Isn’t it better to debate and discuss this rather than letting a lone commenter single-handedly define “truth”.

  56. This moniker has been selected to draw attention to various freedom of speech (FOS) issues as related to Soetoro/Obama and moving towards 2012. Look for future comments.

  57. As I understand CW 1st Amendment Rules anyone, even an obot, can argue that BO is not guilty of the Crimes that I and other True Patriots have accused BO of committing.


    A Partial List of the Crimes of BHO and his Criminal Cohorts:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

  58. Ted | January 26, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
    Drudge ups the ante — no hawaii bc NOW IN RED!
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    Ted, that is interesting. Even more interesting as that post was up there yesterday and he upgraded it to red. Doesn’t this usually mean that not only is he pointing it out, but that he has more to follow? Drudge usually has the scoop on things and he has quietly been following this issue.

  59. Oh, good, then – – – I think this is a more helpful, more structured, and more professional way to look at things. Accusations are cheap, anyone can make an accusation. In order to progress to a conclusion, we need to do a bit more spade work to sort things out. For instance:

    Some of the things in this list are strongly known and understood and are indeed good grounds for immediate legal action. These include:

    2. Birth Document Forgeries [however, even if true, it could be hard to tie to Obama – lots of other available scape goats]

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities. [not sure about this one, but will include it here for now].

    I will even add one: multiple violations of Logan Act

    However, these are in the speculation and wishful thinking category and sound suspiciously like ODS to me (something I advise that we should all avoid – in that it can be used to tar us as kooks). These are far indeed from any possible immediate legal action. I am not saying they are not true. They may turn out to be. It is just premature.

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime [although, clearly, at least the Donald Young story remains suspiciously under-investigated]

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

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    Now, doesn’t that feel more solid and well-considered?

  60. SeriouslySickOfObama

    I just came home for a few minutes, checked the blogs, but I did call the Gov. of Hawaii at 1-806-586-2211, press 1 for Executive, Then press 1 again for Gov.
    I was sent to three people with the request to speak to the Gov. I stated the Gov. of my state takes my calls and if I walk into his office, I will be seen because my Gov. serves at the will of the people. I was repeatably told to leave my name and number, I said that I am sure you that on caller ID since you already stated my STATE before I told you what state I was in, she denied that and said I said it, I did not. Questions I ask that had them foaming at the mouth like a rottweiler:

    1-Why did the Gov. lie and say he knew BHO when he was a baby at a social event with the time line already proves that the parents were never in the same place at the same time during that time frame?
    2-Why did the Gov. then tell his friend he remembers BHO only back to 5-6 in T-ball and change his original story?
    3-Will the Gov. be contacting Nancy P. to find out what BC she certified to put BHO on the ballot, is the name on the BC under Barry Soetoro and is that not Hawaii election fraud to us BHO instead of his adopted name?
    4-Will the Gov. not take calls from his voters with an open door policy or meetings from his voters since he serves at the will of the people, and if not, do you think he should be re-elected if he can not openly speak to the voters that put him in office?
    5-Why did the Gov. start the conversation back up with the birthers and then lie about the events to prove us wrong only to confirm we were right?
    6-Has Bill Clinton meet with the Gov. recently?
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    I was spoken to as if I was trash, needless to say, I spoke over their harsh tones and reacted in kind with childish behavior, I believe at one point I said, blah, blah, blah, that is your standard answer and we deserve better than that. Be aware this office is on the defense. I get a very bad vibe work environment in that office, LOL, NO ONE would answer any of the above. I was told to leave my name and number and he would call me back, well, I said, that is a standard answer and you know he will not call me back, she said, I am sorry that you do not have faith in our Gov., I said, FAITH IN YOUR GOV. HE IS A LIAR, first he said he remembers BHO, Sr. with Stanley and BHO, jr as a BABY at a SOCIAL EVENT, then changed it to his last memory of age 5-6, It is my opinion that the voters of Hawaii need to do a no confidence vote on this man if he does not go to Nancy P. and demand to see what fraudulent form was used from Hawaii and also because the Gov. lied about knowing BHO as a baby. THEY HATE ME IN THAT OFFICE AND I DID NOT GIVE MY NAME, THEY HAVE CALLER ID! LOL, another day to piss of the powers that be, fun times, LOL!! So, I have leave again, heading to my Dr for final results and evaluation on my yearly check up. Please call those numbers and ask for the Gov.’s secretary, She has anger issues, ROFL!! Don’t mention my name or her head will explode, I told her the US was owed an answer, so if you call, demand a NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE FROM THIS GOV.

    Ask the same questions I ask, but in different order, LOL, the press conference is the main thing we need to get other states to see what was certified on their ballots for him to run. Let’s make today a day to piss off the government of the USA!! ROFL!! If anyone does do this, please post all the responses bc I love gossip, LOL!

  61. DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION?

    Abbercrummie says he can’t look in the records because the AG says it is illegal. Don’t either or both of Gov and AG have to power to convene a task force or commission that would have subpoena power?

  62. Is BO so foolish that he thought that he could make his BC controversy go away simply by having his cohort Abercrombie say that there was some vague record of BO’s
    ” Hawaiian Birth?”

    Or was all the Abercrombie brouhaha just a trial balloon for the release of BO’s forged BC?

  63. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm |

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    Brilliant. In my view #3 is especially critical – and especially obvious as a next step for Gov.

    Lots of people need to call. They need to made to feel that a majority of people are paying attention and care about this. Elected officials understand “lots of angry VOTERS”.

  64. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 2:27 pm |

    ===========================

    That is a good question. I hope you and others saw my earlier post. I cannot yet make head nor tails of this whole thing. It makes no sense no matter how I look at it. Desperately seeking enlightenment!

  65. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle,
    I would think that one man’s truth is based on his opinion, so for you to reply would only be your version of your truth/opinion. I would not bother unless it has something about you in the links. If Free Speech finds those links truth/opinion, then it is not worth the argument to change anyone’s mind as we have proven in the past, it doesn’t work. I would let it go. I see no harm or damages to anyone’s opinion of what you see or Free Speech see’s as truth. I would disregard/ignore it, IMHO! What you consider misinformation, may be a truth to someone else, just like the birther issue, to us it matters, to others it’s a lie. I would avoid conflicts of opinions of who believes what and let the readers decide.

  66. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
    Carlyle,
    I would think that one man’s truth is based on his opinion, so for you to reply would only be your version of your truth/opinion. I would not bother unless it has something about you in the links. If Free Speech finds those links truth/opinion, then it is not worth the argument to change anyone’s mind as we have proven in the past, it doesn’t work. I would let it go. I see no harm or damages to anyone’s opinion of what you see or Free Speech see’s as truth. I would disregard/ignore it, IMHO! What you consider misinformation, may be a truth to someone else, just like the birther issue, to us it matters, to others it’s a lie. I would avoid conflicts of opinions of who believes what and let the readers decide.
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    YAWN!

  67. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 2:31 pm |

    I agree with CW’s Statement in this article. BO has already been proven guilty of Crimes and he should be arrested immediately.

    BO is GUILTY.

    The only question is how many of the following crimes can he be proven guilty of at his trials. According to the RICO Laws, it is very likely that BO will be convicted of all these crimes.

    CRIMES COMMITTED BY BHO AND HIS COHORTS

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud,Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  68. Is this OT?

    Some of you know that my primary interest in “activism” is not here but in regards 2nd amendment. That is why I knew so much about the constitution even before the “Great Patriot Awakening of 2008”. The 2nd amendment has been widely, thoroughly, and rudely violated – and still is thousands of times a day across the country – since at least 1938.

    That is why I also know that “no one gives a crap about the constitution” – least of all legislatures or even the supreme court (“the constitution is what WE say it is”).

    Here is a very informative article. It is on a different topic than we usually discuss here – but generally falls under the scheme of “how to deal with Lunatic Liberals”. I think all of you will find great similarities to what we discuss here and perhaps even some ideas and lessons learned. I heartily recommend it.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/257038/how-write-about-firearms-robert-verbruggen?page=1

  69. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
    I was talking about the subject, not you. 🙂

  70. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 2:31 pm |

    ===========================

    We are talking about different things. Free Speech lives in his own bubble of “revealed truth” and like any religious zealot is not going to be swayed by arguments or anyone else’s opinions. So of course I have no expectations in this area.

    I am addressing a different audience entirely. When any commenter (including but not limited to FS) puts out something that reads like a press release and is complete with lists and factoids – it takes on an aura of “truth” – in fact using that format is a trick to dress up opinions as facts.

    My point is very simple. If other posters (including but not limited to myself) have a different view, they should also publish that alternate view. Only then can readers look at the various viewpoints and analyses and come to their own decisions and conclusions.

    Which leads to our discussion of the last several days – all of us should be encouraged to understand that this is the normal and desired process and that the wide range of opinions and viewpoints should be praised and glorified, not disparaged.

    (If anyone reads any of my pieces and simply responds with “I don’t agree”, my answer would be “thanks for reading, that’s all I can ask”.)

    Remember the story of the blind men and the elephant? The whole truth is better than partial truth.

  71. Carlyle, I think he’s rubbing our noses in it. He’s got Boehner and Cantor on his side, what are WE going to do about it? He is a Community Organizer. He enjoys agitating.

  72. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle,
    CABBY AZ !
    Do you think you can inform your new friend, SSOO, that it took less than a day?
    —————–
    Cabby only gave me information on you, Carlyle, so I would think she is more your friend than mine, but I ask her to help me understand who here had the ability to know and do the most in all areas of our fight against Obama. I think you should apologize to Cabby for that statement, IMHO, because she only answered a question I ask of her.
    +++++++++++++++++
    Paxson,
    LOL, I understood, if you were to ever insult me, you would say SSOO, etc. I totally got your meaning, haha!!
    ——————
    Free Speech,
    Please clarify once and for all when you use the TERM OBOTS that you are not referring to Carlyle, that you are talking about the OBOTS that are spinning the hell of the new evidence against BHO and that he is not eligible. Please state for the record that when you say OBOT, you are not speaking to the regulars here at CW’s blog and it is not directed to Carlyle. Carlyle, everything Free Speech says is not to be interrupted as a direct statement to you.
    I am now out the door, I should be back online after 6 pm.


  73. CW: “The is no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. Obama is a usurper and is not eligible for the office of president. Impeachment is not necessary or applicable. Obama must immediately resign or immediately be arrested and removed from the White House.”

    Truth well stated by CW!

  74. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm |

    As I have stated. Obot is merely a short generic, general term which is used by many True Patriots to describe obama supporters in general. As far as the poster who keeps harping about the term, as I have said before I IGNORE & NEVER RESPOND to his posts.

  75. Pictures of the LEFT SURGICAL SCAR (?) on the LEFT SIDE of the 100% Undocumented Illegal Immigrant, 100% Illegal Alien, Barry Soetoro SOEBARKAH, alias Barack Hussein Obama II, SOEBARKAH’S head:

    http://nation.foxnews.com/michelle-obama/2011/01/24/waiver

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/new-photo-shows-mystery-scar-on-obamas-head-going-all-the-way-down-his-neck/

    Look at this picture of the RIGHT SURGICAL SCAR (?) on the RIGHT SIDE of his head here:

    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/obamas-nasty-scar/

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    More Pictures:
    http://www.barack-obama-photos.com/Obama-Inauguration-Photos.html

  76. Some people think that O will reveal his fake birth certificate in the Super Bowl O’Reilly interview…

  77. Kim | January 26, 2011 at 3:44 pm |

    Some people think that O will reveal his fake birth certificate in the Super Bowl O’Reilly interview…

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    Who? Post links to support this claim.

  78. loaves&fishes

    has anyone read this : From Free Republic:

    \”Strunk v Paterson (Obama): First time in the USA since 1824; Judge has opined on what Natural Born citizen is; Concludes Obama is not a NBC.

    Via Chris Strunk; The first time anywhere in the USA since 1824, that any Judge has opined on what Natural Born citizen is and concluding that BHO Jr. is not NBC.

    This affidavit will be notarized tomorrow and duly served by two days mail upon Justice Schmidt and the State in regards to the appearance on a personal and confidential basis with the intent that Plaintiffs understanding of the record of the hearing be entered into the court record enabling further action by Plaintiff when the Order shown as Exhibit C is entered and forwarded by the State to Plaintiff.

    That I am producing a duplicate for Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. so that she may forward it to the SCOTUS in her action presently there. -snip-

    From the affidavit;

    1. This is the AFFIDAVIT OF Christopher-Earl: Strunk in esse, Witness at the January 11, 2011 Hearing on the Notice of Motion for Amended Complaint in Strunk v Paterson et al. New York State Supreme Court of Kings County Index No.: 29642-08 before the Honorable Supreme Court Justice David I. Schmidt with the appearance of Joan Duffy, Esq. Supervising Assistant Attorney General for the New York Attorney General’s Office and Joel Graber, Esq. Special Assistant Attorney General representing the State of New York as a party-in-interest opposing the Motion to Amend the Complaint.

    2. After the Court called those in attendance including several law clerks and the audience to order, the Honorable Justice Schmidt questioned Plaintiff as to the subject request for relief to amend the complaint and status of the underlying complaint without there being a recording or transcript of the proceeding.

    3. As to the proposed amended complaint, the Court asked whether Plaintiff expects the Court to remove Barack Hussein Obama from office; to wit Plaintiff responded “NO” as that remains a Federal matter. Plaintiff seeks a declaratory judgment as to breach of fiduciary duty by the Defendants failure to provide equal treatment and protection of Plaintiff along with those similarly situated in regards to the certification of the Presidential / Vice Presidential candidates ballot access at the 2008 Election cycle; and as well as plaintiff seeks further discovery as to the scheme to defraud and unjust enrichment.

    4. That Plaintiff stated the NYS Board of Elections never responded to the request for documentation of the various certifications of ballot access for the various Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates; and as previously expressed to the Court Plaintiff had filed in Washington DC a FOIA case 08-cv-2234 for the travel records of Stanley Ann Dunham germane herein with a motion for summary judgment decision pending before Judge Richard J. Leon.

    5. The Court asked if Plaintiff is seeking to obtain a copy of Barack Hussein Obama Jr.’s (BHO Jr.) Certified Birth record herein; to wit Plaintiff responded \”NO\”. Plaintiff seeks a decision by the Court as to whether or not the Candidate(s) are eligible for Office of President of the United States (POTUS) as required with the United States Constitution Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 as required as a regulation by the New York State Board of Elections including inter alias based upon the Certificate of Live Birth published August 21, 2008 by Annenberg Political Fact Check at FactCheck.org http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html (see Exhibit A); and that as a prima facie matter Plaintiff seeks a Court decision herein as to whether or not Obama in fact has Dual Allegiance, is not a Natural Born Citizen per se but merely a Native-Born citizen if that; because BHO Jr.’s father, BHO Sr., is a British subject with a student visa at that time, and is shown to be the purported father of BHO Jr. by both the newspaper announcement and the COLB shown by Fact Check.org; and therefore, at best BHO Jr. is only a \”Native\” born citizen, if that, with only one U.S. Citizen parent mother as a minor at his birth, and that without two U.S. Citizen parents – BHO Jr. is NOT a \”Natural\” born citizen at best is “Native” born.

    6. The Court asked to know Plaintiff\’s understanding of the difference between \”Native\” and \”Natural\” born citizen, to wit Plaintiff explained on a blood and soil basis as of the Law of Nations as related to the 1961, 1963 and 1969 Vienna Convention Treaty matters as to citizenship status as with the children of diplomats and tourists who were not certified admitted by the U.S. Customs Service; and

    7. Plaintiff provided the Court with a copy of the SCOTUS decision in McCreery\’s Lessee v Somerville 22 US 354 (1824) (see Exhibit B), and

    8. That the Court responded favorably to Plaintiff’s argument and contention expressing familiarity with the difference between the Natural and Native born, as there is within Jewish law similar precedent and commented that the Court agreed there is a difference and would read the SCOTUS decision Plaintiff provided….

  79. GREAT COMMENTS under this video:

    “We know………….there is no United States Birth Certificate…why else would a president spend millions on lawyers to keep this all hidden?”
    samnx2 18 minutes ago 12

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “obama is a criminal…He has broken the law. He needs to be punished..We have ibued him with out security and personal freedoms..He is the biggest threat to our way of life..There is no issue in the universe that is more deadly and needs paid immediate attention to than this…Stop trying to distract people from the truth..We have to keep our minds focused on removing this cancer from our country so we can turn ojur attention to other pressing needs..If i raped ur sister or mother, i can[‘t] go free.”
    drlove9999999 10 minutes ago

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    wpugh949 21 seconds ago @TheXGiles

    “EVERY law he signed into law is null and void, and with the new senate and house, NOTHING would get re-passed.”

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    FreeinTX 24 seconds ago “Why do you think BO is spending this country into the ground and into ruins?”

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    ahrhoades 28 seconds ago – “What I don’t understand is that I have to provide a birth certificate just to receive a license to drive on public roads. Wouldn’t you have to provide that paperwork at SOME POINT on the road to presidency? I guess not. Screw driving, I’ll be president.”

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    FreeinTX 13 seconds ago – “Dontana808 – “Exile? Why would we allow him to escape? We are not a king state! We will put his @ss in the GAS CHAMBER for this! Usurper = Treason = DEATH!” FreeinTX 13 seconds ago

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    Read more comments at link above!!


  80. Both CW and I have charged BO with criminal charges and called for his immediate arrest. We only differ in the number on said charges. We both concur that BO committed fraud when he had a forged COLB posted on the internet and alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. Abercrombie now admitting that there is no BC for BO on file in Hawaii is further evidence of fraud for which BO should be indicted now.

  81. Carlyle | January 26, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
    Yes, I did read the post on the other thread. I am very glad that you “fleshed” it out with much more important detail, and I hope that it helps folks to better understand your motives.

    As far as your comment at 1:34 PM re. “it took less than a day” and SSOO’s thinking that you owed me an apology…..Baloney, with all due respect to her. I understood what you meant, and if my skin is that thin, then I better “get out of the sandbox”. LOL 🙂

  82. ATTENTION TEA PARTY PATRIOTS & PROUD BIRTHERS AKA CONSTITUTIONALISTS! Please sign up at these two Google Groups (I know, I know, Google spies!), and put in your 2 cents on Eligibility, help us get the word out!

    http://groups.google.com/group/tea-party-patriots
    http://groups.google.com/group/patriotville

  83. loaves&fishes

    So, really, only two possibilities exist: 1. BHO Sr. (a foreign national) is the father of BHO II which means, at best, we do not know IF Obama is legally/constitutionally the President of the US. . .b/c ONLY a NBC can be President. . .ergo the nation is currently in a serious Constitutional Crisis. Why? The obvious: If BHO Sr. is BHO II’s father than the President of the United States was BORN a US Citizen AND a British Citizen/subject. Well, we know that the Founding Fathers did NOT consider themselves to be NBCs b/c they were born British citizens/subjects. The definition of NBC — per Article II — cannot be “changed” or “decided” merely by challenging it and violating it. . .which IS exactly what occurred in 2008 IF BHO Sr. (a foreign national) is the father of the President Obama.

    2. BHO II’s father is NOT BHO Sr. but someone else who is/was a US citizen. Okay, now we do NOT have an ACTUAL Constitutional crisis . .but we do have a big problem: (a) it APPEARS that the son of a foreign national — with dual legal allegiance to the US and a foreign nation (or nations) — is sitting in the WH. In addition, the HISTORICAL record and history books about the biography of a US President is a LIE — the very IDENTITY of a US President is a lie in the history books. . .and children’s books about President Obama’s life.

    Why didn’t anyone just tell Obama: “sorry buddy, we’ve got a serious national financial crisis, we’re engaged in 2 wars, you really have NO experience handling any of the serious issues facing the nation . . .you’re young/too green. . .and you have either a serious background/citizenship issue that we don’t have time to deal with right now AND/OR your origins are simply too “sorted” and embarrassing and we just cannot have a POTUS, right now, who cannot disclose who his parents are. The NATION doesn’t need this unnecessary problem.

  84. Call Congress give u-tube info and citizenwells.wordpress.com

  85. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Best comment I’ve read thus far in the Youtube comment section: Some day someone will write about how lame the citizens and our leadership was in this country, in the high gear move, because of our insecurities to prove to the world that we not only were wanting the world to know we were color blind but politically had the IQ of a door knob. Is it not stunning that we know so little about the individual who is our leader?

  86. Rosemary Woodhouse

    A bit awkwardly worded, but the message is spot on.

  87. I am not as articulate as many of you here..but, I have been having some thoughts lately, that SEEM to follow with some earlier thoughts and SEEM to follow with the “Insider’s” plea to leave this alone. I am going to try to express them here with the HOPES that one of you all can set my mind at ease…because I think this whole thing is SCARY!!! Let’s see if I can get my thought process down on “cyber-paper.”
    I have, of course, along with the rest of you ALWAYS believed that Obama is ineleigble for the office, no matter WHERE he was born, the Hawaii issue would just determne whether he was even a legal “citizen”..but it would not make him a natural born one.
    In the beginning, when we desperately trying to get SOMEONE to listen to us and being thwarted by the Congress, the Courts, EVERYBODY….I was furious….ready to work to try to have them ALL thrown out…..every ONE of them…even the Supreme Court. I am STILL furious!! We could have “nipped this in the bud” and shown the World that we were committed to abiding by our Constitution. But, now , it is two years later and we are at war, one started by the old regime and one “started” by Obama. In my thinking, I wondered if THIS is the reason that Obama started sending drones so early in his Presidency..and then officially started the War in Afghanistan, against the express wishes of his “base”, and after promising to END the Iraqi war. Did he want to make us afraid of exposing him, because then it means we let an illegal CIC send troops to their Countries to “murder” their citizens?

    I think it was Carlyle that posted something about the PTB KNOWING about this BC issue, but no one being willing to be the one responsible for starting the enormous backlash that exposing this would cause..which got me to thinking OF the backlash…..I think Our nation, within itself, would survive and be better for knowing the truth..BUT…can we surive the REST of the World knowing? To me, THAT is the question.
    Perhaps the rest of the World ALREADY knows, which I think is very LIKELY, but they are just waiting, biding their time, waiting for US to officially declare that we have an Illegal President, starting wars, sending troops, making deals, borrowing money from other nations, etc…once we officially declare it…they can either run to the UN and file complaints against us….or WORSE, they can decide to attack us in feigned outrage!!! The Muslims can start sending their bombs, (that they are now able to build), China can immediately “call back” it’s loan etc…this is what I am hoping SOMEONE can ease my mind about….PLEASE tell me that it wouldn’t be this easy for the rest of the World to do this to us??!!! PLEASE!!
    To me, it seems like Obama could have planned this all along, appeasing the Muslims with plans of…”don’t worry, give me some time to get the people to “take over themselves’, to build a bigger Muslim presence (sp?) in the US, let you, and others build better nuclear bombs, weaken their military, be more indebted etc…..THEN, when the time is RIGHT..I will be sure that my ineligibility is exposed….and you can begin your war against the United States.”
    This might explain the Abercrombie thing…I know that I and I am sure many of you have been trying to figure out WHY in the World some Democrat and “personal friend” of the Pres. would be stirring up a controversy that the Courts etc had pretty much squelched, we were feeling hopeless….and along comes Abercrombie to stir it back up….and get even the LEFT to question it?!! I am thinking that perhaps Obama, on the heels of his “shallacking”, with it looking like his love affair and his sway over the American people was severly weakened, if not over altogether…so Obama thought that now was not the IDEAL time, but maybe he better push it before he loses his power another way..i.e., criminal prosecution.
    THEN!!! ….gasp…pennies from heaven for Obama, THE ARIZONA SHOOTING……now all of a sudden, he can have a new speech writer make him sound compassionate, like he wants to work with the Republicans, how we need to quiet the hate speech and maybe his love affair with the American people is not over AFTER ALL…maybe he still has the chance to put this off for longer and make us more vulnerable before he calls “CHECK MATE!!” So, now it appears that ..now that they have let the “chit hit the fan” so to speak, they are finiding it EXTREMELY difficult to gather it back up and put it back in the bull.
    I kind of WISH that Abercrombie WOULD have done this to present a forged BC…..THEN my recommendation would be to publically accept it..and then work like HELL to get him out of office another way. The fact that he hasn’t, means that Obama will still have this to hang over our heads.
    I kind of feel that I am “onto something” here, if you really THINK about it, it explains many things. But, OH MAN!!!, beleive me I HOPE I am wrong…..can SOMEONE please give me reasons to not feel the way I do? PLEASE??

  88. keith | January 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    lol mike evans backtracks http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/
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    He spoke to the Governor’s office who confirmed what Abercrombie had said in previous interviews, that no long form birth certificate exists. In addition, although never being at all involved with being a “birther”, he does not believe that Obama has a birth certificate on file with the State of Hawaii per his conversation with the Governor’s office. So LOL all that you want, the Governor is saying through interviews and his office that no birth certificate exists on file in the State of Hawaii.

  89. keith | January 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    lol mike evans backtracks http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/
    ***************************
    Amazing, just amazing! I wonder who got to Evans? He has completely denied his first story. Talk about liars…… Will anyone at all hold his feet to the fire? Has anyone asked him why he changed the narrative?

  90. I want this Nightmare to end now. Call your local School Boards and ask what they are teaching students about the requirement to become President.

  91. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 3:13 pm |

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm |

    As I have stated. Obot is merely a short generic, general term which is used by many True Patriots to describe obama supporters in general. As far as the poster who keeps harping about the term, as I have said before I IGNORE & NEVER RESPOND to his posts.

    =======================

    CLEVER.

  92. A Few EXCELLENT COMMENTS I want to pass on from: http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/the-usurpers-state-of-disunion/#comments

    “Troy
    January 25, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Kagan, Sotomayor blew chance to stop eligibility challenge?
    Lawyers say Supremes broke rule, failed to respond to recusal motion
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: January 25, 2011
    8:01 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2011 WorldNetDaily

    Lawyers working for a retired military officer who is challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president say the U.S. Supreme Court appears to have broken its own rules by failing to respond to a pending recusal motion, thus conceding the point and possibly requiring a new conference vote among the seven remaining justices, including four mostly conservative, on whether the high court will hear arguments over Obama’s legitimacy.

    Laurence Elgin, one of the experts working with the Constitutional Rule of Law Fund and website, told WND that the issue arose in the case brought by retired Col. Greg Hollister, who is represented by attorney John Hemenway.

    Get the free, in-depth special report on eligibility that could bring an end to Obama’s presidency

    The lawyers in the case filed a motion before the U.S. Supreme Court seeking the recusal of justices Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, since both were appointed to their lifetime posts by Obama and clearly would have an interest in the dispute if Obama was found to be ineligible and his actions, including his appointments, void.

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: Kagan, Sotomayor blew chance to stop eligibility challenge? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=255733#ixzz1C6ODhkam

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    “Troy
    January 25, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
    Obama will have to produce birth certificate to run again
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: January 25, 2011
    7:42 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2011 WorldNetDaily

    A plan in Arizona to require presidential candidates to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is approaching critical mass, even though it has just been introduced.

    The proposal from state Rep. Judy Burges, who carried a similar plan that fell short last year only because of political maneuvering, was introduced yesterday with 16 members of the state Senate as co-sponsors.

    It needs only 16 votes in the Senate to pass.

    In the House, there are 25 co-sponsors, with the need for only 31 votes for passage, and Burges told WND that there were several chamber members who confirmed they support the plan and will vote for it, but simply didn’t wish to be listed as co-sponsors.

    The proposal, which also is being taken up in a number of other states, is highly specific and directly addresses the questions that have been raised by Barack Obama’s occupancy of the White House. It says:

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=255489#ixzz1C6NOSpy5

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “bdwilcox
    January 25, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    In a sane world, he’d be arrested at the podium and walked out of the chamber with his head hung low.”

  93. Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 4:13 pm |

    Sharon, from my perspective this is an internal matter within the United States. I’m pretty sure that other “treaties” and “compacts” have been broken in the past. Not to mention that we have a United States Senate that ratifies all treaties and Acts of War. The countries that we have “borrowed” money from have purchased our treasuries on the open market, contained in those purchase are “risk” (of all kind) and this is reflected in the interest rates that they are compensated with.

    I did read the person whom you are referring to’s analysis at the time and pondered it, but discarded it as the alternative to inaction is far worse. Don’t let that person get your knickers in a knot. We are a country of laws and when those laws are broken, there must be corrective action. If not, the whole system collapses.

  94. Cabby – AZ | January 26, 2011 at 4:05 pm |

    ==============================

    I don’t get it. What am I supposed to apologize for?

    She has long since written me off as simply one of the disputants and therefore not having an objective opinion. But she seems to think that you are worthy of being listened to.

    I was merely suggesting that since she might listen to you over me, that it might go down easier if you pointed out that (alas, as always) FS was the first to break the rules, and that (again, as usual) it took less than a day.

  95. loaves&fishes

    Sharon that would give the man / and he is just a man with alot of greedy support / has more control than he really does – it all stinks and stink I believe binds to like odor – in other words there are many anti American factions that look like they are in cahoots but they really are not – their common desire is to defeat good ( age old fight good vs evil ) and we must adhere to our roots of freedom to live as we choose according to Judeo Christian principle – the attack will never end , we just cannot afford to be complacent any longer as we have the last 50 years .

  96. loaves&fishes | January 26, 2011 at 4:10 pm |

    Why didn’t anyone just tell Obama: “sorry buddy, we’ve got a serious national financial crisis, we’re engaged in 2 wars, you really have NO experience handling any of the serious issues facing the nation . . .you’re young/too green. . .and you have either a serious background/citizenship issue that we don’t have time to deal with right now AND/OR your origins are simply too “sorted” and embarrassing and we just cannot have a POTUS, right now, who cannot disclose who his parents are. The NATION doesn’t need this unnecessary problem.

    ================================

    This is a very insightful and important question. One can make an argument (a weak argument to be sure) that “they” did not know he was ineligible. But they definitely know about all the baggage, and that he was/is totally incompetent.

    So you are right – the big elephant in the room – the HUGE question –

    WHY?????????

  97. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Here’s the bottom line- he has our &*^$%#$ (using Bush speak ) “nookulear” codes. Hello!?

  98. loaves&fishes

    Carlyle – agreed ! The elephant seems to be invisible just as are the beautiful cloths 🙂


  99. This redundant absurdity that the ptb’s will never out BO for fear of international backlash is amusing.

    If the True Powers that Be had not already decided that BO will be removed from office then it would never have been exposed that there is no BC for BO on file in Hawaii.

  100. Cabby – AZ | January 26, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
    keith | January 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    lol mike evans backtracks http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/
    ***************************
    Amazing, just amazing! I wonder who got to Evans? He has completely denied his first story. Talk about liars…… Will anyone at all hold his feet to the fire? Has anyone asked him why he changed the narrative?
    ——————————————————————————————–
    Fox News is playing games with words. He spoke to Abercrombie’s office and they confirmed that no birth certificate exists. He backtracked out of the appearance that he spoke to the Governor himself. Either way, the result is the same. The Governor’s office is confirming that no Birth Certificate exists. Fox News is participating in the propaganda war for some reason.

  101. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Carlyle | January 26, 2011 at 4:30 pm | WHY?????????

    Because he was 1) a minority. We have become politically correct “uber alles”. Any time anyone disagreed with him, they were called a racist to quash dissent. Thankfully, the race card has been retired. But that’s why he was elected. To prove how we were not a racist nation.
    2) He wasn’t Bush.
    3) He wasn’t Bush.
    4) He wasn’t Bush.

  102. loaves&fishes

    Its all in the question – ask the question leaving no wiggle room. And then throw him in the brink ! NO one wants to be the one to bring down the crash – I think they all want it to go back to Chicago first wince he came because the deceit began long before his ascendency to POTUS . Then ignorance may be employed .

  103. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Great video, Bill Cutting.

  104. Mortrey, I am so happy to see you here! You posted a link to my blog on FR, and I received hundreds of hits! (The article on which you posted dealt with Gov. Abercrombie; interestingly, you linked to my DE-CODER RINGS. However, I actually wrote an article recently with my ‘take’ as to why the Governor has been talking about Obama’s HI birth certificate. GOV. NEIL ABERCROMBIE (D-HI) TAKES ON LT. GOV. BRIAN SCHATZ for CRIMINAL ELECTION FRAUD. I wanted to get that link to you but, I did not know how to ‘find’ you!) If you post any more links to my blog on FR – and I hope you do, especially this latest one, HOW to WRITE SMART CANDIDATE ELIGIBILITY LAWS in your STATE (and make applying to get on the ballot harder than applying to get into Harvard) – could you please add a parenthetical note, the reason I stopped posting over there is, I was banned? Thank you so much!

  105. MUST SEE!!!!!!!!!!!

    VIDEOS AND ARTICLES:

    “VIDEO: MICHAEL SAVAGE STATE OF THE UNION MONOLOGUE:
    OBAMA IS AN IMPOSTER pRESIDENT; HE IS A REVOLUTIONARY AND A NAKED MARXIST”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/michael-savage-state-of-union-monologue.html

  106. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 4:24 pm | Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 4:13 pm |

    Sharon, from my perspective this is an internal matter within the United States. I’m pretty sure that other “treaties” and “compacts” have been broken in the past. Not to mention that we have a United States Senate that ratifies all treaties and Acts of War. The countries that we have “borrowed” money from have purchased our treasuries on the open market, contained in those purchase are “risk” (of all kind) and this is reflected in the interest rates that they are compensated with.

    I did read the person whom you are referring to’s analysis at the time and pondered it, but discarded it as the alternative to inaction is far worse. Don’t let that person get your knickers in a knot. We are a country of laws and when those laws are broken, there must be corrective action. If not, the whole system collapses.

    ————————–
    I agree. Not legally removing BO will create far greater havoc.

    Remember President Nixon. He was far more powerful than bo and he was removed in the best interest of the Country. There was no international backlash.

  107. Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 4:13 pm |

    =============================

    “Articulate” or not – that was a hell of a discourse. We need more of this. By each of us freewheeling and brainstorming it is the only way we are going to get this figured out.

    I would like to build on something you said. You mentioned maybe “they” internationally know. Probably true. But there is a VERY IMPORTANT diplomatic principle – again I will use the phrase Plausible Deniability.

    Knowing “informally” is one thing, knowing “for sure” and knowing “formally” is quite another. Quite another indeed. Enough to cause the difference between World War and peace.

    That is why the WikiLeaks stuff is so damaging. Almost nothing in there is new. We all “knew” that stuff already – but it was plausibly deniable. Now that it is in writing, that is quite another thing.

    I remember someone on here a year ago having an absolute anti-semetic jew-hate fit because she had come to believe that Mossad agents were spying on the US. My comment was “So, did you ever think otherwise? And don’t you think we spy on them? I assumed all this was common knowledge.” But WikiLeaks has shown that not only Hillary Clinton’s State Department, but even Condozeeza Rice, and farther back were spying on Israel. So what? The “so what” is that it is now undeniable.

    Another example. We are pretty sure China blasted a rocket off California a few weeks ago. But as long as anybody can say with a straight face that “we don’t know for sure”, we can kind of ignore it. If it was undeniably true, it could mean war.

    So, yes – admitting in black and white to the whole world that at least 51% of America are total lunatics, that we have no workable checks and balances, that the much vaunted Rule of Law doesn’t work, and that our putative CIC is really an international war criminal (not to mention ALL the officers who followed his commands) – yeah, that’s a pretty big deal.

  108. Recent obot posts indicate that BO is now preparing to resign, thinking that by doing so he can escape criminal prosecution.!

    ~~~~When the bastard (literally) resigns….will we all have ‘STANDING’??

  109. Are you ready for this?
    I have found this in only one source. Someone please tell me it isn’t true.

    Warning! Some people may find this upsetting. A baby Barky!
    MICHELLE OBAMA PREGNANT!
    http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/26881/michelle-obama-pregnant/

  110. Rosemary Woodhouse

    I did not, do not and will not “take sides” as at this crucial moment in time, there are only two sides: Americans and Communists. Pick one. Stick together. Learn to get along.

    BUT, I have to applaud Cabby’s statement, “I understood what you meant, and if my skin is that thin, then I better “get out of the sandbox”. Amen, sister!

  111. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Jonah- for unto them a child is born (hurls). What perfect timing!

  112. Rosemary Woodhouse | January 26, 2011 at 4:32 pm |

    ====================================

    Thank you Rosemary – if I were the caustic type I would say that you are the only one to post a worthwhile comment here all day.

    The “rest of the story” is:

    In our fear of global communist domination in the height of the cold war, we (legislature, people) – in the name of “continuity of government” – gave several specific offices (most importantly, the president) the absolutely unconstrained unilateral ability to declare an instant dictatorship. The theory being (as a lesser of two evils) that ALL FUTURE PRESIDENTS would be AMERICANS with a love of country and would be SANE and would never do such a dastardly deed.

    A smaller example you can understand more directly perhaps: It has been pretty easy for at least 100 years for any President to bomb American cities. At a minimum, get at least one or two good shots off before being “taken down” somehow. Until the nuclear age, this was only a minor nuisance in that the damage would be unfortunate but sustainable. How do you feel now about a “president” having the ability to Nuke at least one, maybe a dozen American big cities before even somebody nearby could shoot him?

    This is very scary. Especially considering that the president may be a lunatic, nonAmerican, Muslim (or KGB), and pro-3rd world as against being apologetic for America and all western civilization.

    One reaction is “OMG – it is even more important that we remove him right away”. An equally valid reaction is “we need to proceed VERY carefully and VERY cautiously”.

    What is the right answer?

  113. Carlyle | January 26, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    This country was founded on religious principles and dedicated to freedom of religion…Did I miss something in your post??

    Until we get God back into our government, schools, and our homes, we will be back to a communist, tyrannical rule in no time.

  114. Thank you!! Thank you !!….all that responded to my post above. I admit to being somewhat apolitical before 2008, and know that I am not all that familiar with the inner workings of the Gov….so, I am truly considering your posts as “words from the wiser” and they ARE making feel less scared…I truly appreciate it!!!

  115. making me feel……, even. My typo queen crown got in the way of seeing the keyboard. 😉

  116. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 4:36 pm |

    This redundant absurdity that the ptb’s will never out BO for fear of international backlash is amusing.

    ===================================

    I am “glad” you find real life, ultimate power, and the world stage – as opposed to what? theory. civil law? – amusing. Naivety doesn’t sound like a “strength” one would normally brag about.

    BTW – it is hard to maintain the fiction that you are calling people “out there” obots, when your comment specifically says “the obot posters above”. Yeah, maybe it’s not me – but it sounds suspiciously like you are calling a valueable CW commenter an obot.

  117. Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 5:01 pm |

    ….so, I am truly considering your posts as “words from the wiser” and they ARE making feel less scared
    _________________________________________________
    I’m not saying that you shouldn’t be “on the tips of your toes” and a little nervous at what could be major civil unrest, but the “sweeping it under the rug” method is lunacy and anti-American. The reason that the PTB’s must be cautious is for two reasons 1.) They have to be absolutely correct with no room for error and 2.) They must assemble the evidence to convince a “preponderance” of the people. If they don’t, it is political suicide. But this other crap about other countries is crap. It may affect our treasury market and the value of our currency, perhaps collapse it on the world market (but that is going to happen anyway if we keep this leadership in power unchecked). We have a series of checks and balances in our country.

  118. JJ | January 26, 2011 at 5:01 pm |

    ===========================

    Thank you for the amendment. I agree with you.

    It is VERY IMPORTANT to remember that we were founded a Christian nation. And to further understand that the constitution is not “complete”. The founding fathers even said that it sits atop an assumed moral foundation and that it won’t work otherwise.

    My paraphrase is that if the constitution had been complete it would have been a much longer document. It makes certain assumptions – we cannot understand the constitution correctly nor apply it conceptually or legally until we agree to those same assumptions.

    And, yes the education must start from birth.

  119. Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 5:01 pm |

    But this other crap about other countries is crap.

    ==============================

    I am so glad that your are so thoroughly informed on international politics. I am sure we can all sleep better now.

  120. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Cabby,
    As far as your comment at 1:34 PM re. “it took less than a day” and SSOO’s thinking that you owed me an apology…..Baloney, with all due respect to her.
    —————-
    With all due respect to you, I truly mean that, I took his statement as mocking me for asking you to mentor me so we could determine who has the strengths, the connections and know how for when we collectivity form a plan to to take action against Obama, I am sorry I misunderstood his intent when he stated YOUR NEW FRIEND.
    ————–
    Carlyle,
    You are as guilty as I in your assumption that I have formed an opinion of you when you stated:

    She has long since written me off as simply one of the disputants and therefore not having an objective opinion. But she seems to think that you are worthy of being listened to.

    I have not made that assumption and I wish you stop taking my words and making them into statements I did not make or believe!
    —————–
    So, to both of you, Forgive me for the misunderstanding.

  121. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 5:01 pm |

    ….so, I am truly considering your posts as “words from the wiser” and they ARE making feel less scared
    _________________________________________________
    I’m not saying that you shouldn’t be “on the tips of your toes” and a little nervous at what could be major civil unrest, but the “sweeping it under the rug” method is lunacy and anti-American. The reason that the PTB’s must be cautious is for two reasons 1.) They have to be absolutely correct with no room for error and 2.) They must assemble the evidence to convince a “preponderance” of the people. If they don’t, it is political suicide. But this other crap about other countries is crap. It may affect our treasury market and the value of our currency, perhaps collapse it on the world market (but that is going to happen anyway if we keep this leadership in power unchecked). We have a series of checks and balances in our country.

    ——————————————-

    The irony is that allowing BO’s illegitimate pResidency to continue is sure to cause more calamity that it already has. The Powers that Be (PTB’s) know that the cost of not removing BO is far greater than removing him and that is why the BC issue is so prominent in the news now.

  122. I’ll add that the series of checks and balances in our country failed. This is why jbjd’s templates for the states to follow are so important after/while this is being resolved. We are stuck with the failure from last time, for now. But we must make sure that it never happens again.

    Also, when I meant to say that it is meaningless as to what other countries think of this quagmire. It will cause some embarrassment, but in the long run it will earn respect in our system of governance. So it isn’t meaningless, but this business about “war crimes”, international calamity and the like is overplayed. There already is international calamity in the world, turn on the news.

  123. JJ | January 26, 2011 at 4:49 pm |

    ============================

    Standing for what? A pardoned person has no criminal liability.

    Of course I hope I’m wrong. But all the facts and twistings and turnings of the PTB’s leads one to this prediction with almost certainty.

    Zero resigns soon for nondisclosed health reasons.

    A full pardon of all past, current, and future sins hits the ground before his little toes leave the WH lawn.

    I cannot see it happening any other way.

    Sorry. You are free to HOPE I am wrong.

  124. As always, these are my opinions. So take them for what you will.

  125. Carlyle | January 26, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
    Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 5:01 pm |

    But this other crap about other countries is crap.

    ==============================

    I am so glad that your are so thoroughly informed on international politics. I am sure we can all sleep better now.
    ——————————————————————————————-
    And I’m sure that you can go f.ck yourself.

  126. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 5:16 pm |

    ======================

    Sad.

    War crimes means something VERY SPECIFIC in International Law – not just carnage and mayhem. Remember Nuremberg – or did they leave that out of your post graduate work in the nuances of international politics? Remember the Nazis? Remember their convictions for War Crimes? What happened to them? How many? How deep did it go into the officer hierarchy? How well did it go for them to claim they were only following orders?

    You remember how the great unwashed international community hates Americans? Do you think it is unreasonable that a bunch of them are just salivating to stand up a whole lot of Americans on War Crimes?

  127. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 5:16 pm |

    Also, when I meant to say that it is meaningless as to what other countries think of this quagmire. It will cause some embarrassment, but in the long run it will earn respect in our system of governance. So it isn’t meaningless, but this business about “war crimes”, international calamity and the like is overplayed. There already is international calamity in the world, turn on the news.
    ———————————-
    And furthermore, BO’s Marxist Terrorist Pals have been trying to charge President Bush and Vice President Cheney with “war crimes” for years. So that is nothing new.

  128. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm |

    =============================

    If as you seem to believe that I am even remotely responsible for “the problem”, then no I am not assuming or interpreting nothing. You made your statement loud and clear – yelling from the rooftops.

    Or even worse – that I and FS are even remotely co-equal disputants. This is borderline unforgivable.

  129. Carlyle | January 26, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm |

    =============================

    If as you seem to believe that I am even remotely responsible for “the problem”, then no I am not assuming or interpreting nothing. You made your statement loud and clear – yelling from the rooftops.

    Or even worse – that I and FS are even remotely co-equal disputants. This is borderline unforgivable.

    ——————————————————————————————–

    ——————————————————————————————–
    Go cry yourself to sleep on your gigantic pillow for your enlarged head that has such a high opinion of yourself. I’ve quite frankly had it with you, and it takes me a loooooong time to establish these types of feelings.

  130. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 5:24 pm |

    And furthermore, BO’s Marxist Terrorist Pals have been trying to charge President Bush and Vice President Cheney with “war crimes” for years. So that is nothing new.

    ===================================

    You prove my point – THANK YOU. The difference being that nothing will stick to them because they were lawfully constituted authority with full support of the congress. The difference being that Zero is an UNLAWFUL CIC. That is JUST the handle they need to make it stick.

    Why do you think the military won’t “out” him? Thousands of the top brass – their necks are in a noose – LITERALLY! Just like Saddam Hussein.

  131. obots seem to think that bo will be pardoned like President Nixon and be allowed to escape punishment for his crimes. Not likely.

    President Nixon was pardoned for alledgedly participating in a minor burglary. President Nixon alledged crimes pale in comparison to the CRIMES that bo is GUILTY of:

    CRIMES COMMITTED BY BHO AND HIS COHORTS

    Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud,Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

  132. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Paxson,
    Hold steady with your beautiful soul! The insults can’t last forever. My tolerance level is at it’s breaking point, but I will not continue a debate that has no merit!

  133. Sorry for the meltdown folks, I’ll return after I’ve cooled off for a while….I’ll leave you all with this. Think about it.

    Passive Aggressive Behavior Defined:
    Passive Aggressive behavior is a form of covert abuse. When someone hits you or yells at you, you know that you’ve been abused. It is obvious and easily identified. Covert abuse is subtle and veiled or disguised by actions that appear to be normal, at times loving and caring. The passive aggressive person is a master at covert abuse.

    Passive aggressive behavior stems from an inability to express anger in a healthy way. A person’s feelings may be so repressed that they don’t even realize they are angry or feeling resentment. A passive aggressive can drive people around him/her crazy and seem sincerely dismayed when confronted with their behavior. Due to their own lack of insight into their feelings the passive aggressive often feels that others misunderstand them or, are holding them to unreasonable standards if they are confronted about their behavior.

  134. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 5:42 pm | Paxson,
    Hold steady with your beautiful soul! The insults can’t last forever. My tolerance level is at it’s breaking point, but I will not continue a debate that has no merit!

    —————————
    Paxon & SSOB,

    “Ignoring him and his obot cheerleaders makes him powerless.” That advice has certainly worked for me.

  135. OK – back to real work – – –

    One of the most important things ever I posted is in response to Cabby AZ yesterday. It was in regards the “grooming” of Zero. You can go read it. But the important thing for the discussions today is:

    1. Zero is not particularly the problem. He is I think the teeny pimple on the problem.

    2. Some here get wrapped up in simple and petit schemes to remove Zero. The problem is that Zero is part of a huge conglomerate.

    3. Imagine a fruitcake. Zero is a nut or a raisen. A bit of the fruitcake.

    4. Our problem is with the fruitcake. But we spend so much time trying to pry loose this one nut or raisen that we lose the big picture.

    5. I don’t think we can solve the Obama problem, let alone the fruitcake problem unless we learn about his grooming.

    6. Why, who, what, when, where, how – – –

    7. We don’t even know what we are dealing with. Some here treat it like a minor criminal case. “my god, he broke the law – we’re going to get him”.

    8. Do none of you realize that Zero is the most powerful man that has ever lived on the planet? Oh, not him “personally”, we all know that he is nothing more than a southside thug. I mean “officially” and “practically”.

    Now, recent circumstances are very encouraging at least as far as getting him to resign and/or disappear. But that is a far far cry from getting him strung up.

    Whatever it is you want – I don’t think you will get very near it unless you figure out: THE GROOMING. That is key.

    Then we have to figure out how important Zero is. How important is he to the fruitcake? Is he just a minor component? Is he key cog? If he was groomed, how many more are there? Is he easily replaceable with a “clone”. How big is the fruitcake? Is it international or mostly domestic? Are the political parties infiltrated? In a major way? Or are they just stupid and lazy? i.e. pawns of the fruitcake?

    What is at stake? Lives? Property? Economy? I mean, what blackmail and extortion possibilities does the fruitcake have to control us?

    Or do you really think that Zero is just a bad apple and tossing him will do the trick?

    Finally, nobody has answered my question about who exactly is going to arrest him and under what/whose authority?

    Sure, I would LOVE to see him perp-walked, but who and how?

  136. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Paxson,
    Do not say you are sorry for defending your opinion, you have every right to do so and say what you will, but saying you are sorry if you offended anyone else in your response is perfectly fine. But, do not back down when you stand your ground and firmly believe in your opinion! I was not offended by your defense of your opinion, I respect you more for standing up for yourself. I admire strong woman, hell, I am one!

  137. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 5:43 pm |

    ============================

    Who was it that said that my well-informed explanation was “crap”?

  138. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Free Speech,
    Did you contact any members today of congress or any AG’s? I am faxing our AG a copy of the certified affidavit tomorrow that was from the man that worked in the election office, any ideas of who else I should contact or fax?

  139. “OBAMA – INELIGIBLE TO SERVE: LIES, CRIMES & DEADLY AMBITION”

    MUST READ EXCELLENT BOOK!!!

    READ The Excerpts Here:

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    Back Cover:

    “Is Barack Obama qualified to serve as President under the United States Constitution or has he defrauded the public and usurped the Presidency?
    Is a “con artist” perpetrating a hoax on Americans and the world?”
    How can Obama’s eligibility be verified and by whom? What would happen if it is legally determined that Obama is not eligible to be President?

    THE 100% TRUE & 100% FACTUAL ANSWER IS A 100% UNDOCUMENTED FOREIGN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, A 100% FOREIGN ILLEGAL ALIEN, A 100% UNDOCUMENTED FOREIGN ILLEGAL USURPER, A 100% FOREIGN DAILY SERIAL CRIMINAL SOCIOPATH CON-MAN, 100% FOREIGN CONSTANTLY LYING TERRORIST CON-MAN, WHO HAS USURPED THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, & NOW WHO IS A 100% UNDOCUMENTED FOREIGN ILLEGAL ALIEN, FOREIGN TERRORIST USURPER WHO IS A RADICAL COMMUNIST/MARXIST/FASCIST & A RADICAL ISLAMIC MUSLIM – JIHADIST – TERRORIST, & A 100% FOREIGN & DOMESTIC ENEMY TERRORIST USURPER WHO HAS 100% ILLEGALLY SEIZED
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  140. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 5:49 pm |

    =================================

    Doesn’t it seem inappropriate to you – and definitely worthy of an apology – that a commenter here calls another one crap simply because she does not agree.

    Don’t you think it equally strange that a commenter who clearly has no knowledge or background in a particular area should “stick by her guns” against a well-informed expert in the field – or at least one who has worked professionally and successfully in that particular field for 40 years?

    You are AMAZING —

  141. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 5:47 pm |

    “Ignoring him and his obot cheerleaders makes him powerless.” That advice has certainly worked for me.

    ============================

    Tell me – just how many minutes has it been since you swore on a stack of bibles that you never call fellow posters obots? Just askin – – –

  142. Now, I am thinking that perhaps I breathed my little sigh of releif too soon. Carlyle must have posted between the time I read and typed.

    Carlyle, Thank you for validating my concerns….and expressing them in a MUCH better way than I could. You are exactly right…that is exactly what I meant when I said that they were waiting for us to “officially declare it”.

    Paxton: I started to listen to you when you said something about the Senate declaring war, and interest in the treaties……and checks and balances, but as we see, our “checks and balances” are not working….if they WERE Obama would not be IN the WH to begin with.

    Then it was appearing that certain folks in the room were calling things crap because of who SAID them, …..well IMO calling something crap because of who said them, and not considering them first is “Crap”.

    I say…..let’s discuss this.

  143. Carlyle | January 26, 2011 at 5:49 pm |

    OK – back to real work – – –

    6. Why, who, what, when, where, how – – –
    __________________________________________________

    I am waiting for the Wikileaks disclosure from the Swiss banker that names the 2000 ultra rich who have been hiding their money in secret Swiss bank accounts. That will reveal everything.

    http://mashable.com/2011/01/17/wikileaks-swiss-bank-account/

  144. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Paxson,
    Are you able to print the affidavit and fax it to your state AG? Write a letter with it as a cover letter with the links of the articles that state Obama has not BC in Hawaii and ask if he can demand to see what Nancy P. certified. If we can get people in all states as jbjd suggested, we might could start a state by state movement, What do you think? If you can’t fax, maybe email your AG. We can get all the information needed from jcjb sites to form one letter for all states AG’s.

  145. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 5:53 pm |

    Ask CW for my email address and I will send you my email lists. I send mass emails frequently, mainly to members of the media and lawyers.

  146. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Free Speech,
    What are you sending them? The current information that was just revealed?

  147. Evidence State Dept. illegally destroyed mother’s passport records
    http://unlawfulpresident.com/?p=262

    CPT Pamela Barnett to be on Andrea Shea King internet radio show tonight to discuss the cover-up and how the State Department illegally destroyed obama’a mother’s passport recdords. Barnett starts at 10p Eastern tonight.
    http://unlawfulpresident.com/?p=279

  148. 1. SSOO I’m a Dad..I can see how you could infer that I was a woman as my wife does wear the pants in the family right now and our “traditional roles” are reversed as our children are young and she earns the majority of the bacon right now.

    2. I never mentioned the name of Carlyle in my assessment, there are a lot of people who are doing the “chicken little” dance on outing Obama.

    3. Read these comments:
    “I am so glad that your are so thoroughly informed on international politics. I am sure we can all sleep better now.”
    “Don’t you think it equally strange that a commenter who clearly has no knowledge or background in a particular area…”
    4. A person who cries all of the time about the decorum of others, better be pretty perfect themself.

    5.I stated it before and I am certain that this the profile of this person named, “Carlyle”.

    Passive Aggressive Behavior Defined:
    Passive Aggressive behavior is a form of covert abuse. When someone hits you or yells at you, you know that you’ve been abused. It is obvious and easily identified. Covert abuse is subtle and veiled or disguised by actions that appear to be normal, at times loving and caring. The passive aggressive person is a master at covert abuse.

    Passive aggressive behavior stems from an inability to express anger in a healthy way. A person’s feelings may be so repressed that they don’t even realize they are angry or feeling resentment. A passive aggressive can drive people around him/her crazy and seem sincerely dismayed when confronted with their behavior. Due to their own lack of insight into their feelings the passive aggressive often feels that others misunderstand them or, are holding them to unreasonable standards if they are confronted about their behavior.

  149. Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 5:58 pm |

    =================================

    Thank you – nobody is totally right. Must I yet again remind people of the story of the elephant and the blind men. The ONLY way we are going to figure this stuff out is to pool our resources.

    We also need to defer to people with expertise and authority. Wishful thinking is not helping.

    Let me further discuss expertise:

    Free Speech feels passionately about Grand Juries and his credentials are such that I want to listen to him. So some time ago, I identified a number of holes in this theory and asked for clarification. I am still waiting. His reaction has been partly name calling and partly just ignoring me.

    Experts in subject areas are obligated to at least try to explain things and provide reasoning. I always do that. It doesn’t mean that I an necessarily right but it does mean I am trying and it gives other people something to grasp on to.

    For example, I am more than willing to explain why I don’t think Zero can be arrested. I wish I were wrong. So I would defer to a better expert that could come along and actually challenge my explanation. “That is crap” is not a explanation or a rational challenge.

    Similarly I really wish that the Grand Jury thing would work. I would willing jump on board that bandwagon if a subject matter expert could answer my questions.

    So – I keep asking questions – and when they are uncomfortable questions – I take a few spears.

    In the meantime, the blog continues as a mixture of critical thought, meaningless prattle, and name calling. Such it is, now and forever.

  150. Margie | January 26, 2011 at 4:17 pm |

    I want this Nightmare to end now. Call your local School Boards and ask what they are teaching students about the requirement to become President.

    Margie, I found evidence of a concerted effort to substitute “native born” or “citizen” instead of the proper qualification term “natural born” at official Secretary of State Election websites, school websites, community college websites, general online answer websites, and in legislation. Some links below.

    Secretary of State – Election Websites
    Washington State – uses the term “native born”
    http://wei.secstate.wa.gov/osos/en/CandidateInfo/Pages/OfficeDescriptions.aspx
    New York State – uses the term “citizen”
    http://www.elections.state.ny.us/RunningOffice.html

    School Study Resources
    K-12
    http://glencoe.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0078609704/student_view0/unit2/chapter7/self-check_quizzes.html
    http://www.flashcardmachine.com/the-president-executivebran.html
    http://www.enchantedlearning.com/election/howpresiselected.shtml

    This cached page shows the html version of a powerpoint presentation that I’ve seen at several school websites. I don’t know who produced the powerpoint.
    http://74.6.238.254/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=president+35+years+native+born&fr=moz35&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=president+35+years+native+born&d=5014657922502413&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=4f6f5d57,317cf355&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=ZGYzD7rLkOX3qPakFVXd8w–
    Here’s another school with the powerpoint version.
    http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oG7nE3c8NMbHoA8fJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByamlqaW9mBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkAw–/SIG=13279tu6m/EXP=1287963831/**http%3a//www.montoursville.k12.pa.us/webpages/jquick/files/The%2520President.ppt

    Community Colleges
    http://www.svcc.edu/academics/classes/edlemap/gov163/Chapter14Presidency/tsld001.htm
    http://fog.ccsf.edu/~lfried/stories/election.html

    General Online Answer Websites
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_requirements_to_be_president
    http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presrequire.htm
    http://www.ehow.com/facts_7163328_order-succession-presidency.html

    Legislation
    Then there are our legislators, who are well aware of the significance of “natural born” but pretend to constituents that there is no significance to Obama’s dual citizenship and father’s non-citizenship.

    Resolution Recognizing John McCain as a natural born citizen – unanimous
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511
    http://mccaskill.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=297116

    “Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment” (nicknamed the Arnold Schwarzenegger Amendment)
    – Joint amendment on eligibility criteria for President
    – foreign-born naturalized citizen for 20 years, possibly combined with eliminating 2-term limit on presidency
    – hearings were held as early as 2000, introduced mid-2003

    SENATE – S.J. Res. 15 Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) Chairman Senate Judiciary Committee
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:s.j.res.00015:

    HOUSE – H.J. Res. 59 Vic Snyder (D-AR)
    http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.J.Res.59:

    – foreign-born naturalized citizen for 35 years
    – Co-sponsors included:
    John Conyers (D-MI)
    Rep. William Delahunt (D-MA)
    Barney Frank (D-MA)
    Darrell Issa (R-CA)
    Rep. Chris Shays (R-CT)
    Rep. Ray LaHood (R-IL)

  151. Sharon:
    “Paxton: I started to listen to you when you said something about the Senate declaring war, and interest in the treaties……and checks and balances, but as we see, our “checks and balances” are not working….if they WERE Obama would not be IN the WH to begin with.”

    The checks and balances are working, albeit very slowly. It started with the American people, people like you and I, going to the polls (every two years) and changing the leadership.

    In addition, I said that there was a breakdown and that is why we must get the word out in passing along jbjd’s template to each of the 50 state legislatures.

  152. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 6:10 pm |

    3. Read these comments:

    ===================================

    You forgot to mention that these were in response to you having called my expert analysis “crap”. I said earlier that if someone reads my work and says “I don’t agree” that my response would be “thank you for reading it, that is all I can ask”. I did not say that if someone disparaged or attacked my work that I would be equally thankful.

  153. My definition of an expert(exspirt) = A former drip

  154. ms.helga | January 26, 2011 at 6:00 pm |

    ================================

    Thank you so much. I don’t know if that will be “IT”, I am not a big fan of the “international banker theory” – aka “the rothschilds did it” – or in it’s worst and extreme form “the nasty jews did it” – – –

    But you could be right – and at least you made a polite and positive response. How much better it is that we can all communicate and share ideas.

    I mean, I could have said “caca”, instead of my somewhat tongue-in-cheek smile above.

    Keep up the good work. Keep digging. I bet the truth is something none of us even guessed.

  155. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Paxson,
    Forgive me, I admire strong MEN, too, LOL!! And you do have a beautiful soul regardless of if you are a man or woman, it shows in everything you post! You are passionate and compassionate, a rare find in this world! But, just argue on merits, ignore the comments of name calling and NEVER say you are sorry for your opinion!! 50% of what we say is FACT, the other 50% is opinion! We strongly and firmly believe what we believe and we do not have to apologize to anyone why we think and feel what we do, life turned us into the people we are and I will never say I am sorry if I believe I am right, but if offend someone, I am the first to own that and admit it. Just focus on the work in front of us with CW and each of us do our part. That is all anyone can ask of you.

  156. ms.helga | January 26, 2011 at 6:18 pm |

    ================================

    Now now. Most of us are expert on one thing or another. Aren’t you?

  157. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Free Speech,
    What are you sending them? The current information that was just revealed?

    ————————–
    For the most part I send evidence of the crimes of bo and his cohorts.

    Ex. Prima Facie Evidence of Fraud by BHO

  158. Starla:
    What was the insight that the book gave as to what would happen if we exposed Obama as the Usurper that he is?

  159. Pamela Barnett | January 26, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Evidence State Dept. illegally destroyed mother’s passport records
    http://unlawfulpresident.com/?p=262

    CPT Pamela Barnett to be on Andrea Shea King internet radio show tonight to discuss the cover-up and how the State Department illegally destroyed obama’a mother’s passport recdords. Barnett starts at 10p Eastern tonight.
    http://unlawfulpresident.com/?p=279

    —————

    Thanks Pamela. Give my regards to Orly.

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  161. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 6:20 pm |

    ================================

    A cautionary tale apropos to lots of things here, not just this particular conversation.

    The single greatest fallacy of modern liberal education (I mean Lunatic Left Academia) is that everybody’s opinion is valuable and that everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

    The correct statement is that everyone is entitled to their “informed opinion”. Everybody has an obligation to study thoroughly before they open their mouth.

    I will give you a real life example that happened to me once – really. It doesn’t matter how this all started – the the situation is that this highly educated (best and brightest lunatic left university) young lady was arguing with me about what my salary/consulting fee was. Whereas there were like only two people in the world who knew the answer – me and the guy who paid me. After I pointed that out, she bursts out “but I’m entitled to my opinion”.

    Hopefully ’nuff said.

  162. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
    I never mentioned the name of Carlyle in my assessment, there are a lot of people who are doing the “chicken little” dance on outing Obama.

    I stated it before and I am certain that this the profile of this person named, “Carlyle”.

    Passive Aggressive Behavior Defined:
    Passive Aggressive behavior is a form of covert abuse. When someone hits you or yells at you, you know that you’ve been abused. It is obvious and easily identified. Covert abuse is subtle and veiled or disguised by actions that appear to be normal, at times loving and caring. The passive aggressive person is a master at covert abuse.

    Passive aggressive behavior stems from an inability to express anger in a healthy way. A person’s feelings may be so repressed that they don’t even realize they are angry or feeling resentment. A passive aggressive can drive people around him/her crazy and seem sincerely dismayed when confronted with their behavior. Due to their own lack of insight into their feelings the passive aggressive often feels that others misunderstand them or, are holding them to unreasonable standards if they are confronted about their behavior.

    ————————————————————-
    I agree.

  163. CW. I accidentally cut and pasted the entire page. Can you erase? Sorry.

  164. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Paxson,
    I am going to do more research at jcjd and print the pages she ask us to sign, understand and send. I think jcjd’s work is exceptional. I will fax her work to my AG, also!

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  166. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Truth Now,
    Thank you! I can follow directions and I will do as you request!!

  167. Here is a list of interesting factoids. None of them are new, and I think most of them at least are non-controversial. But putting them all together makes a compelling story.

    (This was inspired by reading Lame Cherry rants about RL and AC that I think are barking up the wrong tree.)

    1. Ann Coulter does not love Obama. She is just really pizzed at the stupid rank and file republicans that selected McCain. She was what they call f’ing livid. She likes Obama to the extent that she hopes it will teach the idiots to select an electable true/blue (non RINO) conservative next time.

    2. Rush Limbaugh does not love Obama. He (and a lot of Republican PTBs) like Obama to the extent they believe he will poison the Democrats for decades to come and usher in a great golden era of Republican Power. Further, the longer he can say – even the full two terms, will make the victory that much sweeter and stronger.

    3. All of the above thought that Obama was just another left/right swing of the political pendulum. They did not initially accept or understand that he is altogether something different – maybe an actual EVIL in the biblical sense of the word. Maybe Un American, maybe foreign infiltrator. They thought he could be contained/constrained. They never considered him actually DANGEROUS.

    4. Whether because they now perceive this evil – or just on broader principles – many many PTBs now wish to see Obama truncated. A vast majority are of the view to do that via the 2012 election. Some are beginning to think that it must be sooner.

    5. But the PTBs are dead set (for reasons I laboriously outlined elsewhere) against it being about eligibility. They are looking for something so that the Nixon model can be used. They don’t want any further scrutiny before, during, or after. Please remember that any net big enough to catch Obama on eligibility will of necessity scoop up a lot of PTBs also. So PTBs have a huge interest in him going quietly.

    The main reason I publish this is that we have a GREAT AND GRAVE DECISION to make. Do we join forces with these PTBs who wish to do it quietly and cleanly or do we stay separate and insist that it has to be about eligibility.

  168. OT
    Did anyone get to watch the Cong. Issa hearings start today on C-Span3 ?It is an investigation into the TARP fiasco. TARP stands for Temporary Asset Relief Program. When I moved to D.C. in the 50’s there were still a lot of WW11 Quonset hut type buildings being used as temporary government office buildings. The standing joke was that there is nothing more permanent than a temporary government building. Let’s hope this is not true for TARP.

  169. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 6:31 pm |

    Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 6:10 pm |

    A passive aggressive can drive people around him/her crazy and seem sincerely dismayed when confronted with their behavior. Due to their own lack of insight into their feelings the passive aggressive often feels that others misunderstand them or, are holding them to unreasonable standards if they are confronted about their behavior

    ==================================

    Wow – that one bit is particularly incredible. I suggest that some think of it as a kind of mirror. In that same vein Sam Sewell has a great piece on how to distinguish various “agents”. It too is an excellent mirror. I also have various images of kettles and pots and glass houses rumbling around in my head. Hmmmm.

  170. The reason that the obots are trying to divert attention from the eligibility issue now is that they know that we have prima facie proof that BO committed fraud when he had a forged COLB posted on the internet and alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. Abercrombie now admitting that there is no BC for BO on file in Hawaii is further evidence of fraud.

  171. SeriouslySickOfObama

    I am listening to the entire youtube of Mike Evans, LOL, he said the GOV. flat out LIED, haha!! Now, this guy says the Gov. never had this conversation with him, the lies, deception, oh my!! Waiting on Dr. Corsi to come on, he knows FACTS!!

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  173. “JEROME CORSI ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE”

  174. Carlyle | January 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 6:31 pm |

    Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 6:10 pm |

    A passive aggressive can drive people around him/her crazy and seem sincerely dismayed when confronted with their behavior. Due to their own lack of insight into their feelings the passive aggressive often feels that others misunderstand them or, are holding them to unreasonable standards if they are confronted about their behavior

    ==================================

    Wow – that one bit is particularly incredible. I suggest that some think of it as a kind of mirror. In that same vein Sam Sewell has a great piece on how to distinguish various “agents”. It too is an excellent mirror. I also have various images of kettles and pots and glass houses rumbling around in my head. Hmmmm.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    I’m sure that you do, because you are here only to disrupt conversation.

  175. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Starla,
    Thank you for posting those youtubes!!! I will save to FAVORTIES, LOL! CW looks so handsome, I just adore him and his chalkboard!

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  177. “OBAMA LOSES PRESIDENTIAL SEAL, HAND OF GOD OR PROPHECY?”

  178. Carlyle @ 6:49 PM said:
    “The main reason I publish this is that we have a GREAT AND GRAVE DECISION to make. Do we join forces with these PTBs who wish to do it quietly and cleanly or do we stay separate and insist that it has to be about eligibility.”
    **********************************
    Are you privy to information you can share here, or is this mere speculation? The PTBs have all the power to deal with this problem. What has changed? He was born a British subject at birth and remains a subject of the Crown.

  179. Lillibet | January 26, 2011 at 9:02 pm |
    Carlyle @ 6:49 PM said:
    “The main reason I publish this is that we have a GREAT AND GRAVE DECISION to make. Do we join forces with these PTBs who wish to do it quietly and cleanly or do we stay separate and insist that it has to be about eligibility.”
    **********************************
    Are you privy to information you can share here, or is this mere speculation? The PTBs have all the power to deal with this problem. What has changed? He was born a British subject at birth and remains a subject of the Crown.
    —————————————————————————————–
    Nobody said that it “only” had to do with eligibility and to me eligiblity is now a sideshow compared to the conspiracy to commit fraud against the people of the United States. Not to mention all of the other widespread corruption.

  180. Carlyle:
    For reasons stated above…..I vote for working with the PTB.
    I don’t understand how this is not clear to so many….what do we have to lose if we are right, but he is removed for other reasons….he will STILL be gone….we have still LEARNED, we have still put policies in place to prevent this happening again. We may still get to see him hauled off in handcuffs for his OTHER crimes..of which there are many, but if not, honestly…so what? I kind of “longed for” that day myself..but have to ask myself….and ask YOU all…is our need for vindication so STRONG that we ignore the danger to Our Country that it poses? So, another guilty man goes free…it happens everyday…but, in THIS case, not naming him guilty of this particular crime would save lives…..and may save our Country. Why can’t we just swallow our pride and let them get him OUT, however they can?
    Isn’t THAT the “bottom line”? Isn’t that what we all Truly hope for? Sure, in handcuffs would be fitting, it sure would….I agree 100% with that..BUT….not if the price is too high..not if it puts other Americans in danger.

  181. Free Speech | January 26, 2011 at 7:02 pm |

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    I wonder if SSOO is counting the number of times you have violated the rules of conduct today?

  182. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 9:15 pm | Lillibet | January 26, 2011 at 9:02 pm |
    Carlyle @ 6:49 PM said:
    “The main reason I publish this is that we have a GREAT AND GRAVE DECISION to make. Do we join forces with these PTBs who wish to do it quietly and cleanly or do we stay separate and insist that it has to be about eligibility.”
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    Are you privy to information you can share here, or is this mere speculation? The PTBs have all the power to deal with this problem. What has changed? He was born a British subject at birth and remains a subject of the Crown.
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    Nobody said that it “only” had to do with eligibility and to me eligiblity is now a sideshow compared to the conspiracy to commit fraud against the people of the United States. Not to mention all of the other widespread corruption.

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    I agree.

  183. Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
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    I wasn’t talking to you. I only referenced the excellent material you provided.

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    Paxson | January 26, 2011 at 9:15 pm |
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    Thank you. That was an excellent reply. Really.

  184. We could think of this as a “plea bargain”

  185. Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 9:26 pm |

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    Thank you. First a counterpoint. The main reason for still “pushing” on the eligibility issue is the hope of “undoing” things he has done – not the least of which is Obamacare and the USSC appointments. Personally, I think those are phantom hopes because the lunatic liberal lawyers will figure out a way to wiggle around it. But yes, there is some hope in this direction.

    But back to the “work with the PTBs” angle. There are many benefits.

    1. The PTBs have all the power so working with them will be considerably easier than working against them.

    2. How many times have Brave Patriots tried to challenge the PTBs on eligibility issues? Quitely, belligerently, and legally. All are met with EXTREME REPULSION.

    3. How many times have any Brave Patriots tried to find PTBs that could lean against Obama or are already leaning that way? And offered to help in any and every way. And then only after gaining confidence introduce the eligibility business? How many have had an open discussion with their congressman fully aware that the congressman may choose to not include eligibility in their portfolio, but remain on and help with what the congressman does choose to do?

    4. In other words – choose primarily to fight back against Obama and that eligibility is but one of the possible tactics. Then have a man to man discussion with their congresspeople and staff and JOINTLY decide which tactics they are actually going to deploy.

    I may not be explaining this as clearly as possible, but let us start discussion with PTBs with a common agreed problem and then work down to the details. Shoving their face in it might not be the best way to form a working relationship with your PTB friends.

    Same thing in regards contacting Glenn Beck or others we would like to try to work with. THEY are the power brokers not us – like it or not. We can work with them or against them. Which is smarter? Which is more likely of success?

  186. Excellent reply Carlyle….that can help us begin to think about how we can approach our Representatives etc…with plans for his OUSTING.

    Do you think we could convince any of them to approach him in private and tell him that if he does NOT step down, they are going to work to have him deemed unfit for office?

  187. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm |

    that was a very gutsy thing that you did.

    Actually Abercrombie is a big fat liar. (nothing to do with his weight). In a much earlier interview he was barely able to recall ever seeing Ann Dunham. On top of that Øbama was in Indonesia at the age of about 5 or 6.

  188. Sharon in VA | January 26, 2011 at 9:57 pm |

    Does anyone have hard evidence of his drug taking since he has been in office? From what I understand it is probable that he has been snorting cocaine.

  189. Aussie | January 27, 2011 at 1:51 am |

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    Early in his reign, there where NUMEROUS credible reports of the Wednesday night parties. Including a lot of stuff happening and stuff going around.

    Nobody seemed to care, so no reports for a long time. I am not aware of anything more formal.

  190. Birthers are vindicated.
    There is NO “President” Obama:
    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/17/there-is-no-president-obama/

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