Judge Lind decision flawed, Defense of LTC Terrence Lakin, White paper
Courts Martial Defense of LTC Terrence Lakin September 3, 2010 researched and Prepared by J.B. Williams and Timothy Harrington
“We find foundational flaws in Col. Lind’s decision, which Lakin’s defense team must seize upon in orderto alter the current course of this trial.
- Lind’s authority is derived from the same place as LTC Lakin’s and all other members of the United States Military – from the supreme command of the office of Commander-in-Chief, the President of the United States.
- Lind is attempting to use her authority under her Commander-in-Chief to break the military chain of command, isolating the Commander-in-Chief of the US Military specifically, exempting the President from his position of authority in the chain of command, without which, Lind herself has no authority to convene the Courts Martial.
- Lind then reaches outside of the US Military Justice system to the Civil Court, relying upon civil court precedent to deny Lakin any access to discovery and thereby, a proper defense guaranteed him by the US Constitution and UCMJ, Uniform Code of Military Justice. Civil Court precedent has no legal standing in a UCMJ criminal proceeding. In fact, the UCMJ is based upon the Articles of War (aka War Articles) and is a “penal system” unlike the US Justice System – as explained by Col. William Winthrop in Military Law and Precedents. As a result, precedents set in courts outside of the UCMJ are without legal standing in any UCMJ proceeding.
- Not even in the UCMJ can the United States government deny the accused his/her right to a trial, complete with discovery of related evidence. Yet Lind attempts to do so, under the authority derived from her Commander-in-Chief. If the chain of command is broken, then Lind herself has no authority.
- Lind’s statement that the legality of the Commander-in-Chief is “not relevant” in matters ofmilitary command is false on its face. As stated in a sworn affidavit filed by LTG Thomas G. McInerney executed on August 20, 2010 – “In refusing to obey orders because of his doubts as totheir legality, LTC Lakin has acted exactly as proper training dictates. – By thus stepping up to the bar, LTC Lakin is demonstrating the courage of his convictions and his bravery. – That said, it is equally essential that he be allowed access to the evidence that will prove whether he made the correct decision.”
- Lind attempts to break the chain of command at The Pentagon level, which she claims has no issue with the current Commander-in-Chief and that this should be good enough for Lakin. Yet she cannot break this chain of command without eliminating her own authority, and Lakin’s oath requires that he decide for himself whether or not his orders are legal, as affirmed in LTG McInerney’s sworn affidavit.
At issue is not whether or not LTC Lakin refused orders, but rather whether or not he “unlawfully” refused orders. If his orders were not “lawful,” including but not limited to, emanating from a “lawful”chain of command which begins with a lawful Commander-in-Chief, then Lakin must be found NOTGUILTY of “unlawfully” refusing orders.
Citizen WElls 
“We have met the enemy and they are ours; Barack Hussein Obama II, Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah.”
All of these names appear in various documents produced since 2008 regarding Obama’s life story and his passport records.
Two private investigators working independently have found that the putative President Obama is using a Social Security number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.
http://www.nimjblog.org/2010/09/2010-changes-to-manual-for-courts.html
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/09/ltc-terry-lakin-denied-discovery-to.html
What more do you need to see what’s going on?
The time is nigh fellow Patriots, the time is nigh.
http://www.RiseUpForAmerica.com
Pixel Patriot
9.4.2010
I guess General Stanley McChrystal could have stayed in Afghanistan — and ignored Obama, or else Judge Lind did not read this article —
“General alarm as Barack Obama summons Stanley McChrystal to the White House — Commander of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan must face the music after mocking senior politicians in Rolling Stone magazine.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/22/obama-general-stanley-mccrystal-afghanistan
Her decision is so ridiculous, it will not stand! The TOP BRASS in the Pentagon will have mutinies everywhere, and they know it, once the chain of command snaps!
More of the left projecting itself upon us. What Trumka is really saying here (between the lines) is that if Palin (and others) don’t shut up, they (the leftist) are going to get violent.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-trumka-says-palin-is-new-mccarthy-her-language-foments-violence/
Bob,
Exactly right. Gen. McChrystal should have told Obama to go to hell, and remind Obama that he only gets his orders from the Pentagon.
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she’d rather an innocent man like lakin have his life completely ruined….than to “embarrass” the president.
what a country.
Lind’s statement that the legality of the Commander-in-Chief is “not relevant” in matters ofmilitary command is false on its face. As stated in a sworn affidavit filed by LTG Thomas G. McInerney executed on August 20, 2010 – “In refusing to obey orders because of his doubts as totheir legality, LTC Lakin has acted exactly as proper training dictates. – By thus stepping up to the bar, LTC Lakin is demonstrating the courage of his convictions and his bravery. – That said, it is equally essential that he be allowed access to the evidence that will prove whether he made the correct decision.”
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Well Stated! Furthermore, there are plenty of Newspaper Articles which are admissible as evidence that bo ordered the troop increase in Afghanistan for which Col Lakin was deployed.
As stated above lind’s contention that Lakin’s orders emanated from the Pentagon is “false on its face.”
Paxson | September 4, 2010 at 8:46 am |
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This guy Trumpka makes me nervous –
“As head of the United Mine Workers, Trumka ordered a nationwide strike against Peabody Coal in 1993. On July 22, a non-union worker, Eddie York, was shot in the back of the head and killed as he attempted to pass striking coal workers. Picketers continued to throw rocks after York was shot, preventing his would be rescuers from assisting him.[14] Trumka and other United Mine Workers officials settled a wrongful death lawsuit with Mr. York’s widow out of court in 1997.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Trumka
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20014794-503544.html
AND NOW ANOTHER FRONT OPENS UP
Prosecution of all criminal cases hinge on intent to commit a crime, mens rea. If a defendant does not have mens rea then he is not guilty.
In Col Lakin’s case, he had no intent to disobey a lawful order. To the contrary, by filing an Article 138 Complaint, he was expressing his intent to obey lawful orders. Col Lakin’s conduct in this case has been exemplary.
There is ample evidence in the public record that bo is illegally occupying the office of CiC. lind and the other officers who are willfully following bo’s illegal orders are doing so with clear criminal intent.
All officers who are now willfully following orders that are clearly illegal should remember the Nuremberg Trials. judges were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg too. Military judges as officers of the court and of the military are held to the highest judicial standards and are charged with full knowledge of the law. lind can not argue that she did not have mens rea.
Saturday, September 04, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 24% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21 (see trends).
Yet she cannot break this chain of command without eliminating her own authority,
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I need to go over this a little more , sounds OK except for this part .
The chain of command, orders and authority . Lind is an officer and like all officers their ultimate authority and responsibility comes from the Constitution not the chain of command. The very basis for Lakin’s defense.
Look at the Oath itself .
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While I read this site daily, and never commented, I’m about to blow a gasket!
What an injustice!!! Is that how we treat our military personnel! Is there nobody left with balls anymore?
This is outrageous, and leads me to belief that there is a lot more going here than we know.
Maybe the Lind decision is correct in that we don’t have an “acting” president and the Pentagon is in de facto control of the military. In other words, maybe the court is actually recognizing we don’t have a legit president. Has anyone else noticed that the USA is impotent with almost all foreign policy. We are doing nothing except giving money to the Palestinians. All that seems to be happening is BHO will mouth off about this and that, but there is never an official agreement between our country and a foreign country. It seems to me that everyone recognizes the impotence of BHO except Americans.
CW,
I agree with everything you posted. You have missed the irony of one item. This judge uses the term ’embarrass’ as a legal theme to mean absorbing power that is not courts, in calling that the congress only has the power to impeach. What the term is supposed to mean is that the court doesn’t have the authority to remove Obama, only congress has that jurisdiction. However, Lakin never asked the court to remove Obama, only that he has the ability to pursue his innocence with vigor. The judge in this case has made an argument that doesn’t exist, that pursuit of the truth and a military court will remove Obama. They would never do so, but they are capable of exposing the lies and fraud that would result in the removal of Obama, but not removal. Thus, the judge has extended her jurisdiction to interpret the Constitution, which legally “embarrasses” the SCOTUS, to mean that the POTUS is no longer Commander in Chief. So the irony is that she doesn’t want to ‘potentially’ “embarrass” Congress, but has no problem with outright “embarrassment” of the SCOTUS by redefining the Constitution to say that the POTUS is no longer Commander in Chief.
What this Judge is really doing is covering up for the Pentagon and her superiors, because it was THIER responsibility to ask the questions that Lt. Col. Lakin had to ask. The Judge is acknowledging that the USMC has failed to defend and protect the Constitution, is now under only military control, and no longer answers to “We the People”. Thus, there is no point in exposing Obama because the USMC no longer takes authority from the People, the Pentagon is in charge. Lt Col Lakin must have no defense, because his defense would expose to everyone that many in the Pentagon have violated thier oaths.
Bottom line: We are NO LONGER A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. This Judge has declared that the United States Marine Corp. no longer defends the Constitution, nor accepts jurisdiction from the “People of the United States”. We need to get the word out to everyone, the United States and Constitution NO LONGER EXISTS. Protect yourselves accordingly.
Free Speech, see the above paragraph. There is NO CITIZEN GRAND JURY when we have NO CONSTITUTION. I only hope that you CW, can now see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Pete
The reality is that in light of lind’s illegal order denying Col Lakin his Constitutional Rights to Due Process, Lakin’s case will not provide the fast resolution to bo’s ineligibility for which we had hoped. Even if Lakin’s lawyers are successful with a rarely successful interlocutory appeal, it is likely to take years for his case to work through the appeals process.
Dr. Sam Sewell: “I think CGJ is the quickest, most effective, and most practical way to clean up government corruption. I have yet to see a viable argument against that premise.”
Justice Antonin Scalia: “…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people.
Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”
Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”
For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html
All authority comes from the Constitution . Chain of command = orders.
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Free Speech…………………………………………
There is also very high echelon brass who “Don’t even have the slightest idea what the Uniform Code of Military Justice even says.. This was true in the 50s and obviously STILL IS. The alleged HIGH BRASS depend on the JAG for anything that occurs which they need to have “FIXED.” The high brass will CONTINUE to play their little “MIND GAMES” and if anything happens they will call in their DAMAGE CONTROL GOON SQUAD.
Pete | September 4, 2010 at 9:59 am |
What this Judge is really doing is covering up for the Pentagon and her superiors, because it was THIER responsibility to ask the questions that Lt. Col. Lakin had to ask.
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Well Stated.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=obama+orders+troops+to+afganistan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Cj_h6y1OCTNWPJ4P8pAS5scGdBgAAAKoEBU_QxkfU
it’s pretty obvious that obama has ordered troops to afganistan, someone save these links before the liberal obots delete them all
Clause 1: Command of military; Opinions of cabinet secretaries; Pardons
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
The President is the military’s commander-in-chief; however Article One gives Congress and not the President the authority to declare war. Presidents have often deployed troops with Congressional authorization, but without an explicit declaration of war.
Battle-scarred judge says Lakin decision ignores Constitution
‘Highest law in this country is not Supreme Court, not commander in chief’
“No order in the military can be issued without the authority that backs the order. The president didn’t give the order, but he is the authority that backs the order,” he said.
With the current protocol to simply follow orders, Moore warned, the U.S. will develop more incidents like that involving Lt. William Calley in Vietnam. The atrocities of My Lai were carried out under the guise of “following orders,” Moore noted.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=199001
It is time to put Congress, The Supremes, and the Media into FEMA camps.
Free Speech…………………………………………..
Have you wondered about the authenticity of the signatures that appear on the alleged Kenyan BC. Don’t you think that this could easily be proven . All that would be necessary to do would be to closely look and determine if other Birth Certificates have been signed by the same person. It should be remembered that Kenya was still under British control in 1961. To that end I would have to say that there would be a probability that any or all birth certificates would have to be APPLIED FOR. I say this because my wife worked with a lady who immigrated from Kenya legally. She was born in 1956 in Nairobi. At that time she stated that such records had to be applied for otherwise they were not then given as a matter of form. It took nearly three months for her to receive a CERTIFIED copy of her BC. She told us that this 3 month period really messed her up in getting out of the country within the planned time frame. I personally talked with her and she seems to be a fine lady. But ALL I am saying is that a thorough examination and test of the validity of the Soetoro Kenyan BC should occur forthwith,including the validation of both the signatures,and the people who allecedly done the signatures. If they are proven to have been employed at Coast Provincial at that time and did indeed hold a position of authority it would add a lot of strength to the validity of the Kenyan BC. In addition I believe that the baby footprint would retain all of the characteristics shown into adulthood. The footprint is every bit as good as a fingerprint. In addition it is possible that an archive of Kenyan births exists in the UK. Based upon past information that I have regarding other issues,it is apparent that ISLINGTON is ultimately going to be the number one repository for everything. The researcher who I had hired to look into my own family advised me that this facility is HUGE and that it will take decades to enter all of the records into computer systems, but that is their goal and someday we will be able to trace our families much further back than we can at present. This is one of the reasons why family research is terribly expensive in the UK. If heraldry is involved many researchers will refuse to explore anyone’s background .This is because of fear of reprisals against them from descendents. The alleged upper crust do not take kindly to having who they are,and/or what they are revealed. Many of such people got where they are by HOOK,and/or CROOK. But try very hard to appear honest and hardworking.
I pray that more Patriots will uphold their duty and convene State Grand Juries and that the Military Joint Chiefs will finally uphold their Oaths to the Constitution and the SCOTUS will take consolidated cases against bo upon Original Jurisdiction and end this Constitutional Crisis.
ARMY DAV…………………..Good Morning!
What you say is without a doubt right on the money, BUT when the CINC backs the order it is as good as having come from him personally. The BUCK stops with Soetoro. If it wasn’t for the serious nature of all of this, I would have to think of it all as a “VERY COMICAL OPERA”. The joint chiefs look the other most of the time, but when Soetoro passes gas they snap to attention, and ask him “Do you need any toilet paper, SIR?
Sir William………………………………..
I personally think that Mc Chrystal knows a whole lot more than he has revealed to date, which is very damn little. This guy knows how to keep his mouth shut where Soetoro is concerned. Sadly he chose to open it in his interview with Rolling Stone Mag. I tend to think that he might have become incensed by something they said and blurted out stuff that he shouldn’t have. Unfortunately he will probably now have 56 duty stations a year until he retires. If he hasn’t already!
ARMY D.A.V. | September 4, 2010 at 10:32 am |
Battle-scarred judge says Lakin decision ignores Constitution
‘Highest law in this country is not Supreme Court, not commander in chief’
“No order in the military can be issued without the authority that backs the order. The president didn’t give the order, but he is the authority that backs the order,” he said.
With the current protocol to simply follow orders, Moore warned, the U.S. will develop more incidents like that involving Lt. William Calley in Vietnam. The atrocities of My Lai were carried out under the guise of “following orders,” Moore noted.
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Judge Moore is correct. Moreover, there is ample evidence that the troop buildup in Afghanistan was the “Obama Plan.” As part of his plan, bo has ordered attacks on Pakistan, a sovereign ally of the United States, thereby putting all Millitary Officers implementing the Obama Plan in the position of following clearly illegal orders from an illegal usurper of the office of POTUS.
The Joint Chiefs would be well advised to study the case of Lt. Calley and the Nazi War Criminals before they follow the orders of the fascist usurper.
oldsalt79 | September 4, 2010 at 11:00 am |
Good Morning to you sir …………….
We understand the chain of command very well , can’t fool us ,can they Salt .We went though the military and achieved the highest rank possible , civilian .
Look how much corruption we’ve uncovered in just the last few years and still can’t find the bottom of this can of worms and now to find it’s also seeped well into the military .
Maj.Gen. Jerry Curry : Obama’s Eligibility Issue Moving Toward Critical Mass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TmTqvIhLig
Free Speech | September 4, 2010 at 10:12 am |
Pete | September 4, 2010 at 9:59 am |
What this Judge is really doing is covering up for the Pentagon and her superiors, because it was THIER responsibility to ask the questions that Lt. Col. Lakin had to ask.
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Well Stated.
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Exactly – Since the Judge said that the Pentagon is at the “top” in the chain of command as far as Lakin is concerned (not constitutionally correct), then that opinion begs the question, “Why haven’t the top officers – Chiefs of Staff – questioned the authority of the CiC?” She may have started a firestorm, of sorts.
There is another hearing I believe on Sept. 21. Is it too late for the defense to change the direction of their presentation? I wish that they would now stop trying to get information through discovery (that has failed) and put on a case of evidence that is already out there – e.g. dual citizenship and the violation of NBC requirements on that issue alone. Forget the birth certificate. I don’t think he HAS one anyway. Of course, there are other pertinent records which would reveal necessary information, if he could only be forced to release them.
In other words, instead of Lakin taking the position that he isn’t sure about Obama’s eligibility to be CiC, in my non-legal opinion he should produce the
evidence that would show he does NOT believe Obama eligible. Would the Judge even allow that for a defense??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXxJlA4q54
OldSalt
Free Speech, Et al
Found something very interesting , in the Manuals for Courts-Martial records…….. notice the date .
Click to access MCM_2010-EO.pdf
Pete | September 4, 2010 at 9:59 am | CW,
I agree with everything you posted. You have missed the irony of one item. This judge uses the term ‘embarrass’ as a legal theme to mean absorbing power that is not courts, in calling that the congress only has the power to impeach. What the term is supposed to mean is that the court doesn’t have the authority to remove Obama, only congress has that jurisdiction. However, Lakin never asked the court to remove Obama, only that he has the ability to pursue his innocence with vigor. The judge in this case has made an argument that doesn’t exist, that pursuit of the truth and a military court will remove Obama. They would never do so, but they are capable of exposing the lies and fraud that would result in the removal of Obama, but not removal. Thus, the judge has extended her jurisdiction to interpret the Constitution, which legally “embarrasses” the SCOTUS, to mean that the POTUS is no longer Commander in Chief. So the irony is that she doesn’t want to ‘potentially’ “embarrass” Congress, but has no problem with outright “embarrassment” of the SCOTUS by redefining the Constitution to say that the POTUS is no longer Commander in Chief.
What this Judge is really doing is covering up for the Pentagon and her superiors, because it was THIER responsibility to ask the questions that Lt. Col. Lakin had to ask. The Judge is acknowledging that the USMC has failed to defend and protect the Constitution, is now under only military control, and no longer answers to “We the People”. Thus, there is no point in exposing Obama because the USMC no longer takes authority from the People, the Pentagon is in charge. Lt Col Lakin must have no defense, because his defense would expose to everyone that many in the Pentagon have violated thier oaths.
Bottom line: We are NO LONGER A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. This Judge has declared that the United States Marine Corp. no longer defends the Constitution, nor accepts jurisdiction from the “People of the United States”. We need to get the word out to everyone, the United States and Constitution NO LONGER EXISTS. Protect yourselves accordingly.
Free Speech, see the above paragraph. There is NO CITIZEN GRAND JURY when we have NO CONSTITUTION. I only hope that you CW, can now see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Pete
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BINGO!!! Do not forget the Ford Foundation was tasked with drawing up a brand new shiny Constitution which is the chief reason I oppose any Constitutional Convention. The neocon war profiteer’s on the R’s side of the aisle are more dangerous, IMHO, than the socialist left in the D Party.
The whole idea that we the people should go to the polls and elect R’s scares the bajeebus out of me. What will get is WWIII! But people, evern the good folks here, do not get how deep the rabbit hole goes. Their tendency is to cling to what “was” rather than what is staring them in the face as what “is”!
If our small but growing patriot community doesn’t get how this bogus Tea Party, Palin and Beck are betraying our country then I fear all hope is lost.
One poster on yesterday’s thread showed just how deep the denial is about how the R’s had everything and I mean everything to do with putting this illegal man in office. Eyes and ears remain shut in the patriot community b/c it’s safe.
Maybe, just maybe your post will jolt awake.
In the meantime, if I may ask, would you please contact me at htansey@t-room.us? Thanks.
Onward!
Folks – Here is a “wicked” conjecture. Do you suppose that one of the primary goals here is to shield BHO for the purpose of protecting him against future charges that may arise against him?
For example, if there are atrocities carried out on the battlefield in violation of the Geneva Convention and the orders to do so were given by BHO as CiC, he would be held harmless because Lind and others like her would have already “established” that it wasn’t Obama but the Pentagon. I tell you, BHO is a bumbling imbecile but he is wickedly clever, too. And then there are his handlers……..
Here is another point. She says the “Pentagon”. I take it she was referring to the Chiefs of Staff. Why wasn’t she more specific in her reference? “Pentagon” can mean a lot of things to different people. She would be treading too closely if she got more personal, methinks.
Army DAV – Looks like something might be about to break in the BHO eligibility case and he’s covering his bases. Unfortunately for him (good for us) all of his executive orders will be nullified and voided.
After watching the short video on McInerny, I think he should run for POTUS, although I don’t agree with his statement that governments should determine what constitutes a religion.
He is correct that Islam is an ideology and not a religion. A couple of years back, I saw a YouTube video that took a small group of non-related peaceful muslim men living in Great Britain and each man was interviewed about their view of the western culture (which was generally ok), and then they were individually shown propaganda videos and within 30 minutes each peaceful living muslim man was militarized and ready to fight for Allah and kill infidels. Unfortunately I have not been able to find this video more recently.
Helen 12:37 PM
If our small but growing patriot community doesn’t get how this bogus Tea Party, Palin and Beck are betraying our country then I fear all hope is lost.
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Ok, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but whom would you recommend that we vote for in Nov.? In most cases there will be only two parties represented. With all due respect, it seems that you are a very disappointed Democrat who probably opposes BHO because of the way he “stole” the nomination from Hillary. Of course, the Repubs are as guilty as anyone when it comes to covering up for BHO. That’s a given.
Good morning Cabby AZ.
OldSalt,
I completely agree with you big guy.
I’m sure that you guys have seen this picture of Obama behind Trumka…..
Obama, the pussy boy on the playground, brown nosing the big bully… Carting this Trumka hooligan out right now, just as the elections are heating up, talking about violence…. Again, they are projecting their thoughts on us. The cro-magnon stooges that work for the marxist left elitists are the only ones with violence on their minds. But they are priming the media to report otherwise. These people are the epitomy of true evil.
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/09/03/big-labors-legacy-of-violence/
I know that this analogy is not new, but George Orwell NAILED this administration when he wrote the book “Animal Farm”.
Army DAV,
I just had a strange thought. Do may remember back in 2004 and 2006 the changes that were made treating terrorists during a military trial. Some of those pertained to UCMJ article 46, and what terrorists were allowed to obtain for their defence must be approved by the president himself, e.g. clasified documents could be excluded.
As you also know, whom we label a terroist is not always open for the public. Is it possible, that bo listed LTC Lakin as a domestic terrorist, hensce a treat to the U.S., thereby allowing obummer to declair what is not admissable in the military tria? Could that also be the reason that LTC Lakin is being held while off duty in a Psy Ward?
Just one awefull thought.
Cabby – AZ | September 4, 2010 at 12:21 pm |
In other words, instead of Lakin taking the position that he isn’t sure about Obama’s eligibility to be CiC, in my non-legal opinion he should produce the
evidence that would show he does NOT believe Obama eligible. Would the Judge even allow that for a defense?
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I wish that I could say that I saw some silver lining for Col Lakin in lind’s illegal order, but I am afraid that I simply do not see anything fortuitous for Lakin’s trial. The best I see are clear grounds for appeal, but no lawyer would see grounds for appeal as a victory. Lakin’s lawyers can file for an interlocutory appeal, but such appeals are rarely granted.
lind all but convicted Col Lakin with her illegal ruling by foreclosing all grounds for defense at trial. Of course, his conviction can be appealed, but it will be years before this Honorable Officer ever gets a chance of being exonerated.
bo’s scheme is clearly to crush Col Lakin in the hope that then all objections to his illegal orders will be discouraged.
Sorry for the mispells,
You remember,
Threat to the U.S.
Trial
Ect.
Cabby – AZ | September 4, 2010 at 12:49 pm | Helen 12:37 PM
If our small but growing patriot community doesn’t get how this bogus Tea Party, Palin and Beck are betraying our country then I fear all hope is lost.
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Ok, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but whom would you recommend that we vote for in Nov.? In most cases there will be only two parties represented. With all due respect, it seems that you are a very disappointed Democrat who probably opposes BHO because of the way he “stole” the nomination from Hillary. Of course, the Repubs are as guilty as anyone when it comes to covering up for BHO. That’s a given.
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At one time your suggestion of me being a disgruntled D would have been spot on, Cabby. That ended two years ago, however.
Now that we have that out of the way, I ask you and everyone else to re read what Pete wrote above. What he is stating hits the nail on the head.
Therefore, voting is a worthless endeavour if we don’t have a damned Constitution! Think outside the box and ask yourself “what can we the people do to begin to turn this ship around?” I no longer see voting as my only option; especially if I’m just putting in a bunch of more neocons! I don’t want WWIII, do you?
Free Speech | September 4, 2010 at 1:16 pm |
I agree with you with a heavy heart. What would the likelihood of turning his case into being a conscientious objector? Or is that what his case already is?
F ) S a n c t i o n s . G o v e r n m e n t i n f o r m a t i o n m a y not be disclosed over the Government’s objection. If the Government continues to object to disclosure of the information following rulings by the military judge, the military judge shall issue any order that the interests of justice require.
Such an order may include:
(iii) finding against the Government on any issue as to which the evidence is relevant and necessary to the defense;
Click to access MCM-2008.pdf
SirWilliam | September 4, 2010 at 12:59 pm |
Good morning Cabby AZ.
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Good morning to you, too – Sir William
I always like to read your comments. We really have a “whopper” for discussion these last couple of days.
A conscientious objector (CO) is an “individual [who has] claimed the right to refuse to perform military service” on the grounds of freedom of thought, CONSCIENCE, or religion.
General McInerney: “islam is an idealogy, not a religion.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dhfdZrJek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=latIGIBdDcc
Helen 1:18 PM
“Therefore, voting is a worthless endeavour if we don’t have a damned Constitution! Think outside the box and ask yourself “what can we the people do to begin to turn this ship around?” I no longer see voting as my only option; especially if I’m just putting in a bunch of more neocons! I don’t want WWIII, do you?”
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Oh, the last I knew we HAVE a Constitution. It is just being ignored. There is a big, BIG difference. Of course, voting isn’t the only option, but it IS one option. What other meaningful action would you recommend?
One way for WWIII to occur is for America to be weak and that weakness will be manifested to the ultimate if we veer off course and take on some sort of radical, militant rebellion at this juncture. I personally believe that at some point a velvet revolution may have to take place, but only if a new Congress fails to carry out promises that many candidates are now making.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoxQl__-eqA
Free Speech 1:16 PM
“bo’s scheme is clearly to crush Col Lakin in the hope that then all objections to his illegal orders will be discouraged.”
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Couldn’t agree more, FS. Many of us were seeing this as a possible pivotable point for the action WE desire. Instead, bo has utilized this case to benefit him – to quell anyone else that might ask questions down the road.
Helen | September 4, 2010 at 1:18 pm |
Therefore, voting is a worthless endeavour if we don’t have a damned Constitution!
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The Constitution is indestructible , no amount of tyranny or corruption can take it away as long as there is one Patriot left to defend it.
Damn it.
GENERAL McINERNEY for PRESIDENT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EX-toC8cUQ
ARMY D.A.V. | September 4, 2010 at 1:46 pm |
Helen | September 4, 2010 at 1:18 pm |
Therefore, voting is a worthless endeavour if we don’t have a damned Constitution!
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The Constitution is indestructible , no amount of tyranny or corruption can take it away as long as there is one Patriot left to defend it.
Damn it.
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AMEN!
Free Speech – 1:16 PM
Oh me, oh my – Another “wicked” thought has just surfaced in my brain.
Since bo would want to discourage any other officers from refusing to take orders, can’t you see how he could be laying the groundwork for the time (God forbid) when he might order U.S. troops to “restore” order in the homeland?
Forget the Posse Comitatus Act – bo has probably not even heard of it, and if he has, so what? He is lawless anyway. Ghastly, but not impossible.
Cabby – AZ | September 4, 2010 at 12:21 pm |
In other words, instead of Lakin taking the position that he isn’t sure about Obama’s eligibility to be CiC, in my non-legal opinion he should produce the evidence that would show he does NOT believe Obama eligible. Would the Judge even allow that for a defense??
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Good point!
From what we learned from our esteemed ( and steamed) CW commenters yesterday it seems logical to go with what proof you have that Obama was born in Kenya. This outweighs the proof that he was born in Hawaii.
There is the Lucas Smith Kenya BC and his sworn testimony that the document is valid.
There are at least two or three pre 2008 election news articles that say BO was born in Kenya.
There is record of Kenya Parliament saying BO was born in Kenya.
MO is on tape saying BO is from Kenya.
What does the opposition have?
Two copies of Newspaper articles taken from microfilm, not the actual newspaper article, I remind you. Keep in mind that good family friend Frank Marshall Davis was an editor and journalist and at one time ran a newspaper. Do you think he may have had a special reason to identify BO as the son of a black man and then have the wherewithal to have the birth notice published in the Honolulu newspaper?
The Indonesian school records show Obama was born in Honolulu but it also says Lolo Soetoro is the papa and BO is Indonesian. Don’t think BO’s lawyers want that document in court, do you?
A dubious COLB posted on the internet (again, not the actual document) that has spawned serious speculations of forgery. Certain documentation could prove or disprove its authenticity.
Does anyone here want to see the Lakin court martial go to SCOTUS? Well, after Lind’s outrageous ruling, it may very well be on its way there.
Oh and maybe the reason the State Department is now claiming that BO had dual citizenship until 1982 is to cover his rear end when the truth comes out about his Fulbright Scholarship.
ARMY D.A.V. 1:46 PM
“The Constitution is indestructible , no amount of tyranny or corruption can take it away as long as there is one Patriot left to defend it.
Damn it.”
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Absolutely agree!!
Jonah 1:52 PM
“Oh and maybe the reason the State Department is now claiming that BO had dual citizenship until 1982 is to cover his rear end when the truth comes out about his Fulbright Scholarship.”
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I agree there is something “fishy” about the State Department’s latest “revelation”, and that could be the reason. (damage control)
I wonder if Lakin’s case will ever be received by SCOTUS. They are very choosy as to which cases they will hear, and considering the “heat” involved with the Lakin case, I have my doubts. This would be a terribly unfortunate blow to a wonderful, courageous military doctor who had the strength to challenge the BHO injustice. Somehow, some way the truth WILL come out.
Cabbyaz ………………………….Ref i:52 PM.
Even though our servicemen would be under orders to “RESTORE ORDER” how many do you think will fire upon their own families? At such a juncture I believe that total anarchy could break out,and the military people could easily turn 180 degrees, and attack “TO THE REAR”, and quite possibly led by their COs. The door would be “STANDING OPEN.”
All,
Listen to this great Patriot song…
//M-P
Oldsalt79…………
Well I finally did it…. I flushed an Obama!
Not a bad idea for a bumper sticker.
ARMY D.A.V. | September 4, 2010 at 1:46 pm |
Helen | September 4, 2010 at 1:18 pm |
Therefore, voting is a worthless endeavour if we don’t have a damned Constitution!
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The Constitution is indestructible , no amount of tyranny or corruption can take it away as long as there is one Patriot left to defend it.
Damn it.
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ARMY D.A .V.,
Your comment reminded me of this video…….
Several people have posted links to gatewaypundit.com. Jim Hoft, the Gateway Pundit spoke at the St. Louis Tea Party Anniversary on last February. At about 4:30 into of the video is especially inspiring —
“I love my country. I love this flag. I love these freedoms. And I love this Constitution. And before they destroy this economy, before they bankrupt this nation, before they transform this country into some quasi socialist state, before they silence me, before they take away my voice, and before they try to silence you, they’ll have to pry this Constitution and these freedoms and this bull horn out of my cold dead hands.
St.Louis T.E.A. Party’s First Birthday, Jim Hoft. 02/27/2010
Everybody……………………
In November you need to vote with an absentee ballot. In Indiana this is a PAPER BALLOT. After you fill it out have a paid witness sign off on it. Then mail it in. Keep the copy,and put it in a safe place, and remember where it is. If substantial differences in the absentee vote show up, you are within your rights to see your ballot. If it has been substituted with another ballot you can then show your original vote. In so doing you will have clearly shown that your vote was tampered with. If this happens then ALL absentee ballots will have to be verified at least verbally.with the voter.
It would be great if our elections all required us to vote in two modes. This would be electronically, and the old mechanical machine as well. You will both pull the lever,and press the button at the same time. Such a mode would allow quick corroboration of your vote should there be any question.
oldsalt79 | September 4, 2010 at 2:09 pm |
Cabbyaz ………………………….Ref i:52 PM.
Even though our servicemen would be under orders to “RESTORE ORDER” how many do you think will fire upon their own families? At such a juncture I believe that total anarchy could break out,and the military people could easily turn 180 degrees, and attack “TO THE REAR”, and quite possibly led by their COs. The door would be “STANDING OPEN.”
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This is so ghastly to even have to talk about, but I brought it up and now I need to address you. Old Salt, I truly believe and know that many in our military, like you, would rebel against fighting their own on America’s soil. Would they all? I don’t know the answer to that, because we aren’t at that stage yet, and hopefully, we never will be forced to be.
The problem is that many of today’s youth (not all) don’t have the patriotic background that we have. Many are self-centered, and whether or not they could be inveigled to participate in BHO’s possible scheme if they were offered enough, remains to be seen. I think our servicemen are tops!!
I guess BHO won’t need the military if he gets his civilian corps. to do his bidding. This living piece of hell has GOT to be stopped!!
So Army D.A.V., what are the implications of this executive order filed by Obama with regard to court martial proceedings? It looks pretty fishy, meddling with court martial procedures at the time that Lt.C. Lakin is going through a CM claiming that Obama is not eligible for POTUS. Of course, I see the changes do not take effect until 30 days after August 31, 2010, the date Obama filed the order. Is he perhaps looking ahead at possible appeals or continuing military court actions which would be extended up to or after that date? To me it is further evidence of Obama acting in a guilty fashion, in effect meddling with CM to head off “embarrassing” revelations about the government, that is, about him.
Jonah | September 4, 2010 at 1:52 pm |
Cabby – AZ | September 4, 2010 at 12:21 pm |
In other words, instead of Lakin taking the position that he isn’t sure about Obama’s eligibility to be CiC, in my non-legal opinion he should produce the evidence that would show he does NOT believe Obama eligible. Would the Judge even allow that for a defense??
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Good point!
From what we learned from our esteemed ( and steamed) CW commenters yesterday it seems logical to go with what proof you have that Obama was born in Kenya. This outweighs the proof that he was born in Hawaii.
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NONE OF THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE. Until we get over or around the “orders come from Pentagon, not President” declaration – NOTHING about Obama is part of this trial.
Judge Roy Moore says Lakin decision ignores Constitution
Moore said the ruling is a symptom of a judiciary across the nation that now believes in following “blindly.”…”The highest law in this country is not the order of the Supreme Court of the U.S., not the order of the commander in chief, or any subordinate officer,” he said.
Instead, it is the Constitution, which in this particular case demands that the president be a “natural born citizen,” a requirement not imposed on other officers.
Moore said. “They’re not the commander in chief.
“No order in the military can be issued without the authority that backs the order. The president didn’t give the order, but he is the authority that backs the order,” he said.
Lakin “not only has a right to follow his personal convictions under the Constitution, he has a duty,” Moore said. “And if the authority running the efforts of the war is not a citizen in violation of the Constitution, the order is unlawful.”
Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=199001
Cabby,
You are correct.
I thought I read somewhere that Hemmenway was suppose to be on a radio talk show yesterday? I am interested in hearing their side of this problem and possible solutions. However, I am sure they will not discuss their strategy, and I don’t blame them.
CabbyAZ…………………………..
What I have said is for the most part conjecture. But this conjecture is backed by reality.If push comes to shove I personally think that the situation that I suggested could easily prevail. It is entirely possible that our military would at least refuse to “RESTORE ORDER”. At this point the JOINT chiefs would have good reason to either run like hell, or face reality themselves. They could suddenly find themselves facing armed,and highly angered groups of Americans.
The establishment of BHO/BO/BS, or whatever his real name, is the “eye of the storm”. It is absolutely essential that discovery be permitted for Ltc Larkin to demand and get the proof of Obama’s complete and TRUE birth records.
Not only is this necessary in Ltc Larkin’s Courts martial, but it is essential for the survival of this Republic. If the proper rules of law are twisted and turned to an advantage of Obama, then the real truth is , WE HAVE NO VALID LAW IN AMERICA any more.
Ltc Larkin’s court martial goes far, far beyond a simple injustice to a brave soldier who questioned his superiors authority to give orders. It reaches to the heart of everything we stand for as Americans, and everything our fathers and forefathers fought and died for. It is the original cloth that America was cut from that we are looking at here.
If the Joint Chief of Staff’s , SCOTUS, members of Congress, and the American public, don’t understand this simple math problem, then we really are a nation of sheep and we will deserve the enslavement that will surely follow.
What the idiots who occupy positions of leadership can’t seem to grasp is, these damn fools will be in the same boat as “we the people”!
Never in my entire life did I ever think I would live to see every general, every judge, every congressman/ and woman turn their back on a brave soldier who was just doing his duty as his oath to our Constitution demands. This same oath demands that those mentioned above also question in a like manner as did Larkin.
I can only hope America survives this terrible thing that has happened. I hope I live to see the day those who ignored their oaths to this country stand in the dock much in the same manner as did the German generals at Nuremburg and defend their position.
As a lifetime military man, I am sickened ( and have been for a long time) by the conduct of our general corp of officers. They are worse than sheeples, because they KNOW Obama does not meet the Constitutional requirements for CinC.
History will correct this injustice, and this dark period will pass, but not without total and complete transparency. When it does pass,
May the ax fall where it is deserving! The public is tired of eating BS cake !
Something Broader to Chew On
This has been gnawing away in the back of my brain for some months. Maybe now would be a good time to air it out, discuss it, and try to figure out what it means.
Why is no one interested in Barack Obama?
At a minimum, he is a very interesting character and has had an interesting and unusual past. Usually such stuff would be grist for a lot of mills: books, magazines, TV, even movies. Yet, total silence. Everything we hear is official proclamations. Sometimes there are comments about current events: partying, playing, vacationing, fashion, etc. But nothing about the past.
And I don’t mean anything negative. I’m not talking about dirt digging, political posturing, partisan positioning, any of that. I’m just talking about simple “human interest”, “up close and personal” kinds of things.
It is even more curious in that he is proclaimed to be a historical figure. Seeming to define history, set trends, and be a watershed moment in the rolling history of USofA.
And yet there is nothing. Not even fluff pieces. The executives and decision makers of the various enterprises (books, magazines, TV, etc.) seem not to sense the profitability of such undertakings. None of the “doers” (reports, authors, etc.) seem to be clamoring to do it. The public is not noticeably asking for any of this.
I can kind of understand that there might be some grand conspiracy and “order” to not question his eligibility. I have reported before that the PTBs greatly fear the confusion and disruption that what ensue from a usurper – so best to not admit we actually have been usurped. But how and why is NOBODY interested in research and publication of VERY INTERESTING material about a VERY INTERESTING person?
It makes no sense. Yet, here we are!
Comments?
RMinNC | September 4, 2010 at 3:02 pm |
Ltc Larkin’s court martial goes far, far beyond a simple injustice to a brave soldier who questioned his superiors authority to give orders. It reaches to the heart of everything we stand for as Americans, and everything our fathers and forefathers fought and died for. It is the original cloth that America was cut from that we are looking at here.
Never in my entire life did I ever think I would live to see every general, every judge, every congressman/ and woman turn their back on a brave soldier who was just doing his duty as his oath to our Constitution demands. This same oath demands that those mentioned above also question in a like manner as did Larkin.
I can only hope America survives this terrible thing that has happened. I hope I live to see the day those who ignored their oaths to this country stand in the dock much in the same manner as did the German generals at Nuremburg and defend their position.
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AMEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg1U4AkF6tY&feature=player_embedded
SirWilliam at 2:54 pm —-
“I thought I read somewhere that Hemmenway was suppose to be on a radio talk show yesterday?”
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“The Andrea Shea King Show – Gen Tom McInerney & Margaret Hemenway”
Play:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2010/09/04/the-andrea-shea-king-show
Download:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2010/09/04/the-andrea-shea-king-show.mp3?localembed=download
Gianni | September 4, 2010 at 2:43 pm |
After looking through that manual for a few minutes I came to the conclusion it was above my pay grade. What we need is the manual on Kangaroo courts written in laymen terms , because they are surely not following the Law , we know that to be true , RE; Leavenworth 10
this judge is an
“embarrassment”
to use her own words
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 4, 2010 at 2:49 pm |
NONE OF THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE. Until we get over or around the “orders come from Pentagon, not President” declaration – NOTHING about Obama is part of this trial.
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Da verg already brought up a response to that issue earlier today>>>>>>>>>>
da verg | September 4, 2010 at 10:13 am |
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=obama+orders+troops+to+afganistan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Cj_h6y1OCTNWPJ4P8pAS5scGdBgAAAKoEBU_QxkfU
it’s pretty obvious that obama has ordered troops to afganistan, someone save these links before the liberal obots delete them all.
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Obama Issues Order for More Troops in Afghanistan
Obama orders 17,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE51G6F920090217
Cabby – AZ | September 4, 2010 at 1:52 pm |
Free Speech – 1:16 PM
Since bo would want to discourage any other officers from refusing to take orders, can’t you see how he could be laying the groundwork for the time (God forbid) when he might order U.S. troops to “restore” order in the homeland?
Forget the Posse Comitatus Act – bo has probably not even heard of it, and if he has, so what? He is lawless anyway. Ghastly, but not impossible.
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Is it not obvious, in light of bo aiding the invasion of Terrorists into AZ and bo reporting AZ “human rights violations” to the UN, bo plans to bring UN “peace keeping” forces into America to assist in a Terrorist takeover of America?
Until the American people recognize bo for what he is an Terrorist obsessed with the destruction of America, we can not begin to take our Country back.
ARMY D.A.V. | September 4, 2010 at 12:29 pm |
Found something very interesting , in the Manuals for Courts-Martial records…….. notice the date .
Click to access MCM_2010-EO.pdf
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Aren’t executive orders numbered?
Can someone explain the purpose of this executive order?>>>>>>>>>>
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release August 31, 2010
EXECUTIVE ORDER
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2010 AMENDMENTS TO THE MANUAL FOR COURTS-MARTIAL,
UNITED STATES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including chapter 47 of title 10, United States Code (Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. 801-946), and in order to prescribe amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, prescribed by Executive Order 12473 of April 13, 1984, as amended, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Parts II and IV of the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, are amended as described in the Annex attached and made a part of this order.
Sec. 2. These amendments shall take effect 30 days from the date of this order.
(a) Nothing in these amendments shall be construed to make punishable any act done or omitted prior to the effective date of this order that was not punishable when done or omitted.
(b) Nothing in these amendments shall be construed to invalidate any nonjudicial punishment proceedings, restraint, investigation, referral of charges, trial in which arraignment occurred, or other action begun prior to the effective date of this order, and any such nonjudicial punishment, restraint, investigation, referral of charges, trial, or other action may proceed in the same manner and with the same effect as if these amendments had not been prescribed.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
August 31, 2010.
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RMinNC | September 4, 2010 at 3:02 pm |
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The core and the clue to your angst is the MSM. Everybody knows the MSM is biased. People just disagree over how biased or what it means. Most people think that the bias raises it’s head mostly in endorsing or discussing certain candidates or leaning toward this or that initiative or referendum. A lot of times it is just snarky comments about things they disagree with.
But people have learned to live with that. They basically ignore such “opinions” of the MSM and try to make up their own minds.
But then there are more pernicious things. Repeated reporting of certain things and lack of reporting on other things tends to shape “reality”. A clear-cut example is reporting daily war death numbers during Bush era compared to no such reporting under Obama. This conveys the “reality” that the war was going pretty bad then and going relatively better now. Since this replaces a real reality with a manufactured reality, the impact of this bias is far more severe.
But now we have a situation that is even worse. Failure of coverage PLUS misdirection and ridicule PLUS outright lying.
The nation cannot survive such implosion. We – all of us, regular people, and decision makers – depend on the MSM for a lot of our information. Major life and death decisions are made everyday based on data from the MSM. This happens at the individual level, municipal level, regional level, state level, and federal level.
I would say at least 95% of the people who think that questioning Obama’s eligibility is “just nuts” have formed that opinion precisely because of: “If there were really a problem, someone would have told us”.
Even high-placed officials operate this way. They are all busy and have “real work” to do. They don’t have time to chase after tin hat stuff. They have to rely on the MSM as the first line of defense. That is why even congressmen ridicule the eligibility stuff. We know far more than they do. But they are absolutely married to the idea that there would be more stirring in the media if there were any possibility of truth in this.
Before any of you say that people should not follow or trust the MSM, you need to offer a practical alternative. Most people don’t really have the time to gather and research their own news. They have to get it from somewhere. Our republic is built on the premise that the voters and citizens are informed. If they are not informed – or maybe worse, ill-informed – how is the republic supposed to work?
I most strongly believe that when all the dust settles, the culprit at the center of this storm is the MSM. We need to spend some energy figuring out how to fix that. Deposing the usurper is one thing, and a necessary thing. But the patient will still be dying if we don’t cure the sickness.
We are all so embroiled in this that we can’t see the forest for the trees. We are all smart enough to disparage the MSM and we can each be little miniature investigative reporters. But 99% of the people do not have that luxury. There are a few of us who are vocal and determined. But so few. Not even enough to make a difference in a legitimate election. Sure, nearly half the people in the country think Obama is a disaster, but essentially none of them think he is a fraud or a usurper. (Tea Party is good example of this.)
And for reasons I have listed above. Let’s do a little thought experiment. Let’s move it back a few years to make it less personal. Who are you going to believe – the usually calm and reliable Peter Jennings or the patriotic lunatic down the street that has flags all the time, marches in every parade, has his car plastered with headlines ripped out of The Globe, and has pro gun signs all over his yard?
This is the crux of the issue. We need a dispassionate reliable trustworthy widely known spokesman. We don’t have one.
The MSM has almost single-handedly killed our country. We need to understand that. Failure to understand is suicide.
Cabby AZ………………………….
More and more people are being laid off,and/or being let go because of Soetoros INSANE beliefs. The unemployment went up to 9.6 % I am wondering how much longer the American People will tolerate Soetoro’s harebrained notions. When are Americans going to say enough is enough?
Jonah | September 4, 2010 at 3:23 pm |
Da verg already brought up a response to that issue earlier today>>>>>>>>>>
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Sure, that is a nice idea. It may qualify for a way “get over or around”. My point is that neither this or any other such solution is yet in-play. Lakin is currently SOL and NO ARGUMENT ABOUT OBAMA is going to fix that. Obama is off the table. The judge said so.
Free Speech | September 4, 2010 at 3:30 pm |
Until the American people recognize bo for what he is an Terrorist obsessed with the destruction of America, we can not begin to take our Country back.
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This is precisely correct. But bo is not in-charge. He is not the Big Man. He is a pawn. He is maybe even a a fall guy, a sucker, a “suicide bomber”, so to speak. I want to know who/what is the puppet master. How do we figure that out? [and don’t say CGJ’s are the universal answer to every question – we are tired of that]
The only method for We the People to investigate, indict, convict and imprison bo and all of his co-conspirators is via the Grand Jury process. Clearly congress, fed courts and military courts are not going to due their duty. It is up to We the People to take our Country back.
Impeach Obama Tea Party #1 – San Diego http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qnYqYjp4n4
Voter Tips we must protect our Polls. Obama not going to do it?
BS/BO an anchor baby according to Newsweek. Here’s a link to the Newsbuster’s article on it and the other link magnifies the picture in the mag.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2010/09/03/newsweek-insults-barack-obama-anchor-baby
GOM Oil Gusher Update
OK, they got the old BOP (size of small skyscraper) off and the new one on. For a while there was just a raw exposed wellhead. And guess what? No leaks, not even any bubbles!
Finishing the relief well should begin on Tuesday as planned.
There is some good news that BP being released from a lot of the well work, now will begin what they are calling Phase III of the cleanup. In which they will dig down a ways and get all the sand and wash if of oil/gack/gunk and replace it. Maybe this will get rid of the “buried oil” that some have been complaining of. In any case, now the the technical well operations are nearing an end, we must not let this be the kind of “mission accomplished” that makes us forget there is still a massive oil spill and chemical pollution to deal with.
The “failed” BOP will be carefully gone over by a combined team of government and contractor professionals. A final report should be forthcoming but I don’t think it will be very soon.
Finally, just a random thought from a wise commenter on another blog. We need to keep these sorts of things in-mind as we like to complain about everything:
Neither better voting, CGJs, military courts, USSC, or any other “good idea” will restore America unless we figure out a way to “fix” the MSM. Most of the other stuff we rant and rail about are just symptoms. We need to kill the disease.
Consider this. Suppose we have a socialist muslim president like Zero. Would that be a problem as long as the media were thorough and unbiased? Suppose we have a foreigner that finds his way onto the ticket of a state or national election. Would that be a problem as long as the media were thorough and unbiased?
Would the sheeple really vote for the really bad apples if the media told them the truth? There are many additional checks and balances that could have been built into the system but weren’t. One of the critical assumptions of the Founders is that the populace would be adequately informed.
If the media told the truth and understood and explained the reasoning behind things, then you should not need laws like “no socialists on a national ticket”, or even define clearly what NBC was. These things would all take care of themselves in the face of adequate sunshine.
Heck, if the media did their job, they would be explaining to the populace why Islam is not a religion. They could help us sort out existential danger from the inevitable pushing and shoving of a multi-cultural society.
The MSM are CONTROLLING you and KILLING you!
What’s up with this?
From Drudge Report:
NYT: DEMS PLAN ‘FIREWALL’ TO SAVE HOUSE… DEVELOPING…
>>>Army DAV. The Constitution is indestructible , no amount of tyranny or corruption can take it away as long as there is one Patriot left to defend it.
Damn it.<<<
Army DAV,
You are correct, and wrong. The Constitution is an idea, an idea of free people whom reject tyranny, and as long as Patriots hearts beat and yearn for freedom, it will live. Yet, no person is a island, and a free country and People cannot have a Constitution, and not follow it.
Tyranny is among us, it ignores "We the People", it says we need to put down silly things like the Constitution and 'join' the international community of slavery to elites. The vote is our voice, yet our voice is being muted by election fraud, media fraud, government fraud. The people have only begun to look inside the rabbit hole, and it goes very, very deep. No single election, no matter how promising, can fix what is broken now.
Can this country be fixed without violence with peaceful voting? I am hopeful, but voting public of Free People need information…they need facts and the truth to make good decisions. Does anyone here think they are getting the 'truth' from the media? How about the courts? How about Congress? How about the Executive branch? Without free flow of information and free speech, a free and moral people cannot govern themselves, our founding fathers recognized this. Jefferson, a true leftist, spoke of this.
What the left and liberals didn't understand is that once you break the Constitution to get your 'plan' it's a incredibly slipperly slope to tyranny and violence. Believe me when I say Patriots tried to warn them, but sometimes 'obsessions' get the best of any of us. I will add, to all of our leftist friends whom may be reading this, time to learn your history. Find out who is targeted when Tyranny takes power. How do minorities, homosexuals, free thinkers and progressives, religious minorities, women, and Jews fair without the protection of a viable Constitution? Voting for these socialist fascist idiots, ignoring the wisdom of our founding fathers, is the social equivalent of putting a gun to your own head!
My fellow Americans, there are no political parties were we are going, only three groups remain. Those whom support and defend the Constitution (Patriots), those who do not (Traitors), and those who have never read and don't even know what the Constitution is(Sheep). The future of a free people is at stake, try to educate as many as possible, get them to the polls, make them 'look' beyond MSNBC. Obama's history and eligibility is, and has been, the key to unlocking the 'truth' about whom is driving the bus over the cliff. How can a person whom was born and accepts British citizenship at birth, whom arrived to this world after 1790, be POTUS?
I believe our current government is now a facade of lies, and illusions. Someone above mentioned the Ford Foundation and it's work on a new 'Constitution'. The same Ford Foundation that was begun by Henry Ford whom praised and supported Adolf Hitler? The same Ford Foundation that employed Obama's mother? The same Ford Foundation that was involved with CIA based 'Micro-loans' to Indonesia in the 1960's. The same Ford Foundation that grants money to Annenberg (factcheck), and takes and gives money/awards to George Soros? Wake UP! The Ford Foundation is a socialist/fascist/progressive/elitist group!! They do a few good things as a cover for a very questionable political agenda, much like Henry Ford himself.
While I pray and hope for a non-violent end to this direction, as a 'realist' I see very bad things on the horizon. Mostly because of apathy, a lack of historical understanding, and just misguided Americans whom don't understand what is really at stake. Army DAV, you gave till it hurt, look around you…do you think people are 'getting it' yet?
Pete
The Democrats’ strategy to preserve their House majority became clearer Thursday as the party made a $28 million investment in television advertising for the final weeks of the fall campaign, a plan that is designed to build a firewallto protect freshmen and longtime incumbents.
http://tinyurl.com/2cm2pc7
Citizen Carlyle
If you’re referring to the fourth estate , free press , I’m afraid it passed away , buried in an unmarked shallow grave many years ago, with no obituary or funeral ,RIP.
Bailout in the Works for Afghan Bank
“Journalisn Died In 2008”
—–Sean Hannity
Journalism
Pete | September 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm | >>>Army DAV. The Constitution is indestructible , no amount of tyranny or corruption can take it away as long as there is one Patriot left to defend it.
Damn it.<<<
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Army DAV,
You are correct, and wrong. The Constitution is an idea, an idea of free people whom reject tyranny, and as long as Patriots hearts beat and yearn for freedom, it will live. Yet, no person is a island, and a free country and People cannot have a Constitution, and not follow it.
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Pete , that was a reply to another post , read the post I commented on and I'm sure you will will understand what I was trying to say.
Pete there is no doubt you're patriot and your heart is in the right place , excellent post , but I have to disagree with you , the Constitution is far more then an just an idea .
Our Military has always been looked up to as the bravest and brightest, that being said, I can find NO sane explanation for them to set back and see our Country and it’s Constitution be destroyed. Coming from a military family back ground, none of this makes sense. It appears the Joint Chiefs of Staff would have to be culpable in the TAKE DOWN of the USA. The Congress as a whole should be arrested for TREASON. After watching Col. Lind destroy LTC Lakin with her decision it gives pause as to whether our military would stand down if given orders by Obama to fire on American citizen. Don’t laugh, its getting closer than you think. Any ideas about solving this should be fourth coming immediately, for the longer we procrastinate the more danger we are in. There has to be a Judge somewhere that will step forward and take the steps to halt and rescind any and all ACTIONS this USURPER has taken. GOD BLESS ALL and give us the means to turn this TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE USA AROUND. The repetitive posts and useless banter to stop this carnage is merely keeping people from thinking and putting to use anything that may help. I’ve had my differences with jbjd, however I credit her for her ability to continue to research and find ways to help America. I for one, see her as having a brilliant mind. It’s time those that critizise her, stops. She puts forth much good information. Citizen Caryle puts forth some very good articles and as far as I can tell, does not use old video’s to make a point, Its up to date info. It is time for every one to work together instead of letting someone spew lies and name calling to tear everyone away from the task at hand ” Making AMERICA Mighty again.
Found this post and thought I’d bring it over here.
Penumbra says:
September 4, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Wake up, “voting” is merely the mechanism whereby the Corporate Fraud establishes the legal “presumption” of public consent. You aren’t given any choice which hasn’t been thoroughly vetted by the elite interests for compliance with the status quo, so what good is your vote?
IF you vote, you endorse the fraud. That’s the REALITY behind the system.
Only when this present foreign owned system is dismantled will votes matter as they were intended, and only those at the local and state level in actuality. Federal Offices were always intended to be filled by State appointment, not popular vote since the Federal Government was to be the Government of the States, not the people of those states.
This is why the Constitution makes clear that ONLY those responsibilities specifically enumerated were reserved for the Federal Government, whilst ALL other rights and duties were RESERVED to the States and the People.
In a true Republic the central government should have ZERO involvement with or power over the sovereign individual of any state (save those expressly named as subject within the 10 mile square zone of D.C. and the “territories”). Even the latter, if we were true to our founders vision would be divested and left to govern themselves.
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Thus, what choices do we the soveriegn truly have in 2010? Well, let’s review –
– A Democrat who will caucus with the Democrat Membership who he/she shows allegiance. Yippy I Yo, more taxes – did you know that it takes the taxpayer 231 days to make good on their federal obligations? The remaining days go to state and taxes on goods.
– A Republican who will caucus with the Republican Membership who he/she shows allegiance. Yippy I Yo, more war and more bloodshed of our treasured youth who either can’t find a damned job or are too poor so their only option is enlisting in the military or joining a gang. Wow!
So you tell me which option makes you sleep better at night. Yeah, that’s what I thought – neither! So what are we the peoples options? Think outside of the box and start reading our history as Pete above so wisely suggests.
And let me remind you good people about this fact – the Tea Party movement started as a voice for those of us who left our respective parties and joined the center. Sure there were Rs and Ds but for the most part it was made up of us Indy’s.
Now the most extreme elements of Republican’s have taken it over and made it their own. Well good for them, but do not believe for one moment this political movement is anything more than putting more neocons in power. This Indy fought our takeover and will now have nothing to do with it. Neocon’s are not patriots, they are warmongers, empire builders who are rigid and fundamentalist’s…just ask Ralph Reed or Karl Rove or Dubya or Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Kristol, Libby and too many more not worth the mention.
Joy | September 4, 2010 at 5:41 pm |
Welcome to tyranny .
Michigan Supreme Court keeps The Tea Party off Nov. ballot
The Michigan Supreme Court ruled Friday that “The Tea Party” will not appear on the state’s November ballot, a ruling cheered by conservative Tea Partiers who called the group and its nominations a ploy by Democrats to take votes away from Republicans.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/third-party-candidates/117225-michigan-supreme-court-keeps-the-tea-party-off-november-ballot
Pete | September 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
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How’d you get so smart? So many here act like Zero is the only problem we ever had and the constitution has been sacredly followed before 2008.
Joy | September 4, 2010 at 5:41 pm |
Our Military has always been looked up to as the bravest and brightest, that being said, I can find NO sane explanation for them to set back and see our Country and it’s Constitution be destroyed. Coming from a military family back ground, none of this makes sense. It appears the Joint Chiefs of Staff would have to be culpable in the TAKE DOWN of the USA
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You hit the nail on the head. The Joint Chiefs of Staff were purged by the PNACers with the help of Rumsfeld and another high ranking Pentagon Zionist, Douglas Feith.
Do you think that Lt Col Lakin doesn’t know what Former Lt.-Col and former Pentagon employee turned whistleblower, Karen Kwaitkowski, is on record stating exactly what Pete wrote earlier. This country has been taken over from within, the Pentagon has controlled our foreign policy for sometime now, and the Pentagon is controlled by Israel.
Many American’s know little about foreign policy and the government knows that.
JM – we know little b/c the source for such info is also a shill for elitist interests and their number one goal is to keep American’s stupid and uninformed. This is intentional. Do a simple google search to learn who owns ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX/MSNBC and all of the rags that call themselves news magazines. It’s an easy search so bother to enlighten yourselves. Please.
TruthSeeker @ 5:21 pm | My new Time Magazine came today with the lovliest cover. The Star of David-red, white and blue done in daises. Inside the Star of David it says “Why Israel doesn’t care about Peace”-have not read that yet.
What ticked me off was this. Obama “I can’t spend all my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead.”
“Barack Obama, addressing rumors that he was not born in the US. A recent Time poll showed that despite evidence to the contrary, nearly one-quarter of Americans believe he is a Muslim.”
OK Time-you are on.
What evidence to the contrary ??? Obama on the video states he is a Muslim. The only thing I can’t understand is why don’t 100 per cent believe he is a Muslim, since Obama himself said he is a Muslim- see video proof. Either people don’t believe him when he speaks or they just ignore him completely.
Consider Obama’s statement on the video stating he is a Muslim as evidence to the contrary.
ARMY D.A.V. 3:18 PM
After looking through that manual for a few minutes I came to the conclusion it was above my pay grade. What we need is the manual on Kangaroo courts written in laymen terms , because they are surely not following the Law , we know that to be true , RE; Leavenworth 10
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This is in response to an older post and in a lighter vein. ARMY, I was too busy at the moment to even wait for the download, so gave up for another day. You, at least, tried to get into it. Bravo!
Free Speech 3:30 PM
“Until the American people recognize bo for what he is an Terrorist obsessed with the destruction of America, we can not begin to take our Country back.”
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I believe this to be right.
Pete | September 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
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Well said Pete.
ARMY D.A.V. | September 4, 2010 at 5:02 pm |
Citizen Carlyle
If you’re referring to the fourth estate , free press , I’m afraid it passed away , buried in an unmarked shallow grave many years ago, with no obituary or funeral ,RIP.
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LM | September 4, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
Michigan Supreme Court keeps The Tea Party off Nov. ballot
The Michigan Supreme Court ruled Friday that “The Tea Party” will not appear on the state’s November ballot, a ruling cheered by conservative Tea Partiers who called the group and its nominations a ploy by Democrats to take votes away from Republicans.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/third-party-candidates/117225-michigan-supreme-court-keeps-the-tea-party-off-november-ballot
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LM, The democrats tried to do the same thing here in NV, running phony tea party people to split the vote. They were smelled out in time.
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Helen 5:49 PM
Found this post and thought I’d bring it over here.
Penumbra says:
September 4, 2010 at 3:21 pm
“Wake up, “voting” is merely the mechanism whereby the Corporate Fraud establishes the legal “presumption” of public consent. You aren’t given any choice which hasn’t been thoroughly vetted by the elite interests for compliance with the status quo, so what good is your vote?
IF you vote, you endorse the fraud. That’s the REALITY behind the system.”
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Where is this absurd teaching coming from? Our right to vote is one of the last remaining vestiges of a free people and I don’t appreciate it being denigrated. Just because the outcome is less than what it should be, doesn’t mean that it should be considered as “endorsing the fraud.” Someone here is getting way off the track!
After reading the entire post my suspicions are confirmed. People that have gotten involved in variations of the sovereignty movement(s) speak the way this person has. Many of these well-meaning folks believe that we are not bound by any laws that exist with respect to taxes, debt, etc. and have gone off the deep end in their concepts of what is wrong with America. Various groups are in the process of setting up interim “governments”, which truly is a form of anarchy. There are certain tell-tale words that give a hint as to the core beliefs of a person.
Helen, do you really believe the thrust of what Penumbra said? You sound as though you are in despair as to what direction to go. That is partly because your views on Zionism may be taking you far beyond reality into the world of multiple conspiracies and other beliefs that are unedifying and unwholesome. We all come from different backgrounds and belief systems, that’s for sure. As for me, I am a true realist but cannot go down that extreme road of feeling that it does no good to cast my vote. Come on!
“We cannot lightly allow the perpetrator of a serious crime to go free simply because that person believed his actions were reasonable and necessary to prevent some perceived harm. ”
Sol Wachtler
or in my opinion might embarrass the govt.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 4, 2010 at 3:07 pm |
Something Broader to Chew On
This has been gnawing away in the back of my brain for some months. Maybe now would be a good time to air it out, discuss it, and try to figure out what it means.
Why is no one interested in Barack Obama?
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Very interesting essay, CC! I had not really thought about it, but you are right – there are not even “fluff” pieces about his history, notable events, etc. Well, I haven’t figured out the long answer yet, but the short answer, and very simplistic – He’s a ZERO. There IS nothing noteworthy to report about his earlier life. That’s probably why he had to have his two supposedly autobiographies written earlier than most normal people do – To establish what his life was, since there is nothing more much out there. In other words, when there isn’t much, one has to fabricate to establish what it was supposed to be. How much credence can we give to his books? Really?
Oh, there are some truths, but…….
Jonah | September 4, 2010 at 9:00 am |
Jonah, I am in Kentucky…
The distance is about 260 if we can get our friends to go with us–if not, we might meet you there.
We take sandwiches and tea to cut down on costs…cool.
Cabby – AZ | September 4, 2010 at 7:59 pm |
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Ah, but maybe you have the cart before the horse. No one would know that he has no background unless they tried to look for it. Now, maybe some of the big shots already know that there is no background. But not even the “ignorant people” are clamoring for it. Why is no one interested?
Not even people like Oprah. Remember when she destroyed that journalist for making things up? I don’t think she started out to ruin him. I think she like his book and was going to feature it. But upon the rudimentary due diligence that a staff like hers would do, things began to unravel. The she got mad and outed him. But nobody is even doing a due diligence sort of innocent inquiry into Obama’s background. Very odd.
For example, if there are atrocities carried out on the battlefield in violation of the Geneva Convention and the orders to do so were given by BHO as CiC, he would be held harmless because Lind and others like her would have already “established” that it wasn’t Obama but the Pentagon. I tell you, BHO is a bumbling imbecile but he is wickedly clever, too. And then there are his handlers
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For once, someone is on the same page as I.
If the fraud is publicly announced as a fraud, my God, what would that bring with it regarding not only American soldiers’ families, but all the damage to lives and property in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere……
WORLD WAR III???
You betcha!!!!
The judge is covering or setting the stage that it isn’t the CNIC, but another agency responsible for all the deaths–yep, all those deaths, people, for what purpose??
I’m with you on this one, Cabby.
Now that we have that out of the way, I ask you and everyone else to re read what Pete wrote above. What he is stating hits the nail on the head.
Helen, how about starving the beast??
They can’t jail 100 million citizens…the jails are full already!!!
One way for WWIII to occur is for America to be weak and that weakness will be manifested to the ultimate if we veer off course and take on some sort of radical, militant rebellion at this juncture
1) America is weak..have you not listened to the fraud for the last 18 months??
2) WE have not veered off course—CONgress, SCOTUS, and the current administration are guilty there.
3) Radical and militant rebellion?? Are you referring to something like what happened it 1776?? That kind of RADICAL??
bob strauss | September 4, 2010 at 7:13 pm |
ARMY D.A.V. | September 4, 2010 at 5:02 pm |
Citizen Carlyle
If you’re referring to the fourth estate , free press , I’m afraid it passed away , buried in an unmarked shallow grave many years ago, with no obituary or funeral ,RIP.
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The people ultimately go where they get the most accurate information. Fear not about FOX. New forms of media will replace those that sell out. As long as we have freedom of the press, and first ammendment rights, those that choose to fluff, hide or subjugate will end up as tabloids. The free market will reward them.
Helen | September 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm |
And let me remind you good people about this fact – the Tea Party movement started as a voice for those of us who left our respective parties and joined the center. Sure there were Rs and Ds but for the most part it was made up of us Indy’s.
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Helen: I agree. It seemed for a while the Tea Party was made up of Hillary fans mad that Obama stole the nomination from her, like me. I was a moderate. Then all of a sudden the Republicans took over the tea party. I’m mad at both parties, and don’t know what to do, but I hate Obama, that’s for sure.
oldsalt79 | September 4, 2010 at 2:09 pm |
Cabbyaz ………………………….Ref i:52 PM.
Even though our servicemen would be under orders to “RESTORE ORDER” how many do you think will fire upon their own families? At such a juncture I believe that total anarchy could break out,and the military people could easily turn 180 degrees, and attack “TO THE REAR”, and quite possibly led by their COs. The door would be “STANDING OPEN.”
Oldsalt…I offered an opinion of the Rambo syndrome earlier—they know that while they arrest, jail, harrass, intimidate, confiscate guns on the east coast, their fellow Rambos are arresting, jailing, harrassing, intimidating, confiscating guns from their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, wives, and children on the west coast—THEY AIN’T STUPID!!!
Tina @ 11:25 pm | Tina I am now a former Dem now Tea Party due to DNC corruption 08. I think half or better of Tea Party is Dems-the DNC wanted Obama by fair means (well scratch that) and FOUL-now he is all theirs-I hope they both go into an abyss together-that would be a welcome change. The Reps are in the Tea Party for their own reasons, and the Independents are always interesting. I think the ultimate goal for most of us in the Tea Party movement is to restore our Constitutional Republic, respect the Constitution (Obama has abused the living daylights out of that) and support our fellow Americans (in the classic sense of the word). Up with WE THE PEOPLE. Is the movement perfect?, will there be mistakes in judgement? etc.? but it is a start on a path to freedom from an out of control government. We can and will fix all that is broken in our country-Obama/and corrupt minions sure showed us where most of the corruption lies.
Stupid probably–just to piZZ the administration off—every citizen who knows the truth and upset with these traitorous acts should write the White HOuse, state the facts that you know the fraud is a fake president, is ineligible for the position, has a fake birth certificate, was not born in Hawaii…….and let them sue us for defamation of character??
Oh, yeah??? Prove it sucker!!! Take all one million of us to court!!!
JJ @ 11:57 pm | I think there a lot more than one million. I would guess 75-100 million. The gov’t is only fooling themselves, the people were on to Nixon long before the gov’t got it together. The gov’t spent most of their time in lies and cover-ups and same as now the more that they pulled their lying stunts the more suspicious and entrenched the people became. Dem’s also score for hypocrisy because they were all over the Reps and now they pulled off something a million times worse. They also score for stupidity since they learned nothing from the Nixon escapade.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2010/09/02/well-thats-one-way-to-improve-the-economy-open-thread/
Earlier today, Stuart Varney said this prediction will stabilize the stock market and help the economy. Why? Because if companies think the Republicans are going to take over control, they don’t have to worry about other big spending bills.
The MSM has almost single-handedly killed our country. We need to understand that.
CC..over an over, the media has been warned and there are 3 categories…those dems and supporters of the fraud aren’t ever admitting the obvious if they ever let themselves ponder the truth……the others who suspect the fraud is a fraud have been isolated, moved elsewhere, been taken care of, lost their conviction real fast ….those who really know, who want to speak out, who are real threats to exposing the fraud perpetrated on America….UHHHHH…have been threatened…they have families, and everyone single journalist/reporter/anchor, surely has one parent living.
Am I making myself clear enough??
My fantasy is one with terminal cancer will announce one day on a world telecast the truth, with birth certificate from Kenya, fake birth announcements, CIA connections, Muslim connections, foreign election contributions, all the dirt before they cut the sound.
And maybe even a brave, kick-azz producer who will jeopardize all in the name of liberty.
Are we at MSM’s mercy?? Hell yeah…but I can’t blame the last category…I love my husband and can relate.
JJ @ 12:14 am |” My fantasy is one with terminal cancer will announce one day on a world telecast the truth, with birth certificate from Kenya, fake birth announcements, CIA connections, Muslim connections, foreign election contributions, all the dirt before they cut the sound.
And maybe even a brave, kick-azz producer who will jeopardize all in the name of liberty.”
I have thought of this many times myself, a person suffering from a terminal disease and there may be more than one would be so dangerous to their lies. This would be person(s) with absolutely nothing more to gain or lose except a clean conscience making their peace with God and their fellow men.
If you’re referring to the fourth estate , free press , I’m afraid it passed away …..
Please, don’t call it the ‘free’ press…it wasn’t free…it was paid for by the elites, the corporations, the George Soroses.
Helen @ September 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm |
I read an article last week that suggested the only way to get this country ‘right’ again is to
1) get all our military home and stop nation building, destroying land to rebuild, and stealing resources
2) stop all foreign trade, tax all corporations abroad to high heaven; if we can’t make it, we damn sure don’t need it
IMAGINE THAT!!!
The only thing I can’t understand is why don’t 100 per cent believe he is a Muslim, since Obama himself said he is a Muslim- see video proof
Michelle, you are assuming the public watches these videos–I have a girl at my church studying to be a nurse, a nurse now, who I discovered has a computer, but no INTERNET–no interaction with probably any news outlets…
NOw, if this young girl has no ‘connection’ to the real world, how about the other large percentage ‘connected’ alright–connected to American Idol and other ‘hit’…
SOME WITH THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND DON’T EVEN KNOW THERE IS A FIGHT FOR THE SOVEREIGNTY OF OUR COUNTRY!!!
Welcome to my little part of the world.
In the preliminary hearing in the matter of US vs. Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin, Judge Colonel Denise R. Lind disallowed Obama’s personal records, citing New, Huet-Vaughn, and Rockwood, where that judge found that Congress, through its power to regulate the armed forces appointed the service secretaries and their service leaders to carry out functions such as order people to deploy, etc.
The cite lacks relevance, as a legal precedent, since, while Congress has power to regulate the military, no member of Congress is actually a officer of the military, to wit, Commander-in-Chief nor normally issues orders to military personnel, other than to the President. Furthermore, the Secretary of Defense, etc., also acts on the orders of the President, providing such orders are lawful orders.
The question of guilt hinges not on Obama’s ability, as cited by the judge. Rather it is a question of eligibility and whether the orders he issues, to military personnel, are lawful orders. If O b a m a is not a “natural born” citizen, as we all pretty much know he isn’t, then every officer, the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Army, should be questioning the whether hes orders are lawful orders (I cite the trials of the subordinates of Lt. William Cally, circa 1964-67).
Thus, Judge Colonel Denise R. Lind violated UCMJ, Subchapter 1, Section 832, Article 32, Investigation, subsection (a) and Subchapter 10, Article 92, Violation of Order or Regulation, by disallowing pertinent evidence in the pre-trial hearing, namely evidence that the sitting Commander-in-Chief has the legal right to serve as a the top officer of the miltary, by virtue of being a “Native born” United States citizen. Such evidence is necessary to prove Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin violated either of Article 87, Missing a Movement or Article 92, Violation of Order or Regulation, in that such orders had to be lawful orders in order to have been violated for the purposes of the UCMJ.