Timothy Adams worked in Hawaii, Is Adams telling the truth?, Is this another diversion?, Open thread, June 10, 2010

We have confirmation that Timothy Adams worked in Hawaii in 2008. Is Adams telling the truth about the elections in Hawaii in 2008 and coverups regarding Obama’s birth certificate? We need to find out fast.

28 responses to “Timothy Adams worked in Hawaii, Is Adams telling the truth?, Is this another diversion?, Open thread, June 10, 2010

  1. Well, it appears that someone called to verify….

    “WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.”His title was senior elections clerk in 2008,” said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the City and County of Honolulu. Takahashi also confirmed Adams’ time frame at the office from spring until the month of August.”

    I hope Tim Adams is willing to fill out/sign a deposition/affidavit to attest to his claims… how fast can the DOJ and Obumer shut this guy up?

  2. And good morning CW and all…..

  3. Good Morning William!

  4. truthbetold11

    obama is done is this is let out. but the controlled msm won’t let it get out beyond the internet. Or their gig is up.

  5. I guess the main thing to ascertain about Adams is why he waited this long to let the cat out of the bag. Perhaps he had to sign a non-disclosure agreement upon leaving the organization, a gag order as it were. Perhaps it was in effect for two years or so. Otherwise, it is hard to understand why we would not have heard a peep from him about this until now.
    Nevertheless, this is a very intriguing angle that must be pursued. I am not discounting Adams yet. Let the whole story be told.

  6. Free Speech

    For his safety, Adams needs to make an affidavit and deposition of his testimony ASAP.

  7. Free Speech

    Crimes committed by BHO co-conspirators: Murder, Identity Theft, Child Abuse are enough to get life sentences for BHO and all of his co-conspirators; and that is just Nashville that I am talking about. If you multiply those charges by every City in America wherein BHO & his co-conspirators committed similar crimes, you literally will have thousands of Indictments against BHO and his co-conspirators.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

    Thus, it is baffling that some Patriots limit their cases against BHO and his co-conspirators to a single issue, e.g., the birthplace issue and the Natural Born Citizen issue are not either or; i.e., if BHO was not born in the USA, then he is not a Natural Born Citizen. Furthermore, the fact that his father was a British/Kenyan subject (citizen) means that he is not a Natural Born Citizen regardless of his place of birth.

    In short, in your Indictments, Patriots, you should charge BHO and his co-conspirators with all of the Crimes committed by his campaign in your Cities and Towns (Voter Fraud, Identity Theft etc.) along with charges of fraud regarding his Natural Born Citizenship status should be one of the charges.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

  8. I agree Free Speach.

    To answer your question Gianni, Tim Adams said he was under a confidentiality clause, but that has since expired.

  9. On Thursday there will be another takedown situation in the Bensenville area and a simulated chemical explosion at the Nalco Co. lant at 6233 W. 66th St. in Chicago.

    =========================

    Nalco is a major producer of the oil dispersants now being poured into the Gulf of Mexico.

    http://www.nalco.com

    Link to the info regarding the 5 day terror drill planned for Chicago area:

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=175330

  10. When adams said it was an “open secret” in haw gov’t circles, it really got my attention.

  11. Free Speech

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    zachjonesishome // June 10, 2010 at 7:40 am

    Here’s to GLOBE!

    http://www.globemagazine.com/story/510

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    Former Vice President Al Gore is caught up in a sensational gay scandal after announcing he is divorcing Tipper, his wife of 40 years. In a must-read world exclusive, GLOBE rips the lid off all the eye-popping details that have Washington, D.C., insiders buzzing. Don’t miss a single word!
    *******************************************

    Thanks Zach!

  12. I can almost guarentee you Tim Adams has already had a visit from the secret service. Many individuals who write or blog have personally visitrd for writing negative comments, little lone actually knowing facts.

    He also will most likely be fired from his job, pressure from the DOJ (if you can actually still call it that).. Any takers on that bet?

  13. William,
    Only on how long it takes.

  14. I hpoe not LM, the incompetent jacjarse in D.C. would not know how to get out of a wet paper bag, little fight Russia. But since the annointed one gave out our military secrets, no telling.

  15. Tears will flow!GOD BLESS AMERICA!

  16. Free Speech

    William // June 10, 2010 at 8:41 am

    I can almost guarentee you Tim Adams has already had a visit from the secret service. Many individuals who write or blog have personally visitrd for writing negative comments, little lone actually knowing facts.

    He also will most likely be fired from his job, pressure from the DOJ (if you can actually still call it that).. Any takers on that bet?
    Prairie // June 10, 2010 at 8:44 am

    William,
    Only on how long it takes.
    ******************************************

    I’ve still have no response to the email that I sent to Mr. Adams yesterday morning.

    I suspect one of 3 things happened.

    1. It was a hoax designed to distract Patriots. (My gut feeling is that this is not likely because boBots here tried to discredit Adams as soon as his interview was posted.)

    2. Mr. Adams is frightened and trying to avoid any communications.

    3. Mr. Adams has signed an affidavit & a deposition.

    4. bo’s DOJ has already gotten to him. (My gut feeling based upon my own experience is this is the case. Btw, an FBI agent came to my home to question me about Madisonville and I wasn’t even at Madisonville on 4/20/10. I refused to meet with him and made him call me so that I could record his conversation. He apologized to me and I have not heard from the FBI since. I was fortunate that my case was well documented on CW & elsewhere so that boChorts know that if they harass me they will be exposed. Sort of like algore was exposed.)

  17. Jbjd —

    Okay. I cannot find anything to say that any of Clinton’s pledged delegates in AZ switched their vote to Obama. I can’t find anything to say they didn’t either. I found one chart that projected 31 delegate votes for Clinton, and one chart that showed Clinton received those 31 votes. Any suggestions on where to look for detailed breakdowns?

    Also, about Obama’s affidavit, why is it a bad idea to go after the fraud there also? One doesn’t negate the other in any way. Anyone not registered Democrat can’t really make a case against the changed delegate votes; but anyone can challenge the fraud on Obama’s affidavit. Especially because it didn’t go thru the DNC; this came directly from Obama.

    I like that idea especially because it puts the dual citizenship issue right on the front burner. NBC requires both blood and dirt; not either/or. We can’t prove that Obama was not born in the USA (yet), but we have no doubt that his father was not a citizen, never tried to be a citizen, never wanted to be a citizen…

  18. Mia, here is the final vote tally. The problem is this: when were these votes cast? For example, CA shows a vote. They did not vote from the floor. So, this vote comes from the vote in hotel rooms, BEFORE HRC released her delegates to ‘feel free to vote for whomever they want.’ (As CA is a vote binding state, there is confusion as to whether under CA law, this means they can change their vote.) At the time of the primary contest HRC won CA; but on this list compiled by D Corporation Secretary Alice Germond, BO won CA. (She co-signed NP’s Certifications of BO’s Nomination that went to state election officials to get his name on the ballot.) http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D-VoteTallySheet-2008-09-02.pdf

    No federal court has ever defined NBC. Without documentation, no one knows whether BO is a dual citizen, anyway. But he knows whether he is a NBC, even if there is no documentation. Only, even assuming he is a NBC; how does the next person know he is a NBC, without documentation? And if that person swore to state election officials he is a NBC but cannot produce documentation, even with his NBC status admittedly in question at the latest, in June 2008 when his campaign put up the advertising Fight the Smears then, that’s election fraud.

  19. I made a mistake yesterday. I cut and pasted part of a legal case but left out the ‘next line,’ which was the whole point of the cite!

    I was attempting to support my claim, soldiers must obey all legal orders; and all orders are presumed legal. I included the language for the first proposition but inadvertently omitted the language for the second proposition. Here is the complete quote:

    Long ago this Court recognized the foundational principle
    of military discipline: “Fundamental to an effective armed
    force is the obligation of obedience to lawful orders.”5
    Reflecting the authority of this principle, an order is presumed
    to be lawful, and a subordinate disobeys an order at his own
    peril.

    Click to access 04-0246.pdf

    In short, where a subordinate is prosecuted for disobeying an order; the burden is never on the People to establish that order was lawful but on the Accused to establish, it was not. (If the Accused seeks to obtain evidence after the fact that the order was legal; s/he concedes or admits to uncertainty as to the legality of that order at the time s/he refused to obey.)

  20. Thanks, jbjd. I’ve gotta let this sink in and do some more searching for the delegate votes. I’m going to go over AZ Republic and Phx New Times articles from the summer of 08.

  21. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    jbjd // June 10, 2010 at 10:50 am
    =========================

    You have not adequately distinguished between Officer and Enlisted.

    Furthermore, the issue is more complicated, you cannot live or die on one cite alone. Modern international rules of war require that all orders be selectively obeyed by the Officers in the chain of command.

    This is an overwhelming and overarching requirement. Otherwise it discounts Nuremberg into nothingness.

  22. Company Seeking ‘Boom’ Time
    48 minutes ago – FOX News 3:36

    Packgen has supplies for spill, but ignored

    http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/company-seeking-boom-time-20264191

  23. #

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // June 10, 2010 at 11:58 am

    jbjd // June 10, 2010 at 10:50 am
    =========================

    You have not adequately distinguished between Officer and Enlisted.

    Furthermore, the issue is more complicated, you cannot live or die on one cite alone. Modern international rules of war require that all orders be selectively obeyed by the Officers in the chain of command.

    This is an overwhelming and overarching requirement. Otherwise it discounts Nuremberg into nothingness.
    ************************************************
    What on earth are you talking about?

    I claimed that military orders issue by a superior are prima facie lawful and that disobeying these orders is not. I provided a cite to the current legal standard which supports my claim. You say, ‘You are wrong.’ But surely, just saying I am wrong is not intended to substitute for a reasoned analysis of your opposing opinion, which analysis, to be distinguished from mere personal opinion or conjecture, at a minimum must contain supporting legal cites.

  24. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    jbjd // June 10, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    ======================

    SIGH! I don’t work that way. That is getting way ahead of the game.

    Before we start building little castles of cites, and precedents, and learned scholars – and before we can even have an intelligent debate or discussion –

    We must roll out the carpet of COMMON SENSE. We must do a little reconnaisance, get the lay of the land.

    That is where I’m at at the moment. Otherwise too great a risk to raise the little castle on a foundation of sand.

    That’s the way I roll.

    If I had to guess, one of the key reasons you seem to attract more than your share of criticism is that some of the stuff you say just doesn’t make any sense.

    We also need to look at the implication of things. No matter how tightly we may hold an opinion, no matter how many “authorities” we can summon to our cause – if the logical conclusion (and the unintended consequences) blows up in our face – than that is a hint that we may need to reconsider.

  25. From: http://www.AmericanGrandJury.org

    “DOES THE MILITARY CARE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION?”

    June 9th, 2010

    Contributed by Joe E. Sheldon

    Introduction: The following letter was written to LTC Driscoll in response to Driscoll’s Ruling as Investigating Officer refusing to allow any witnesses or evidence from the State of Hawaii or elsewhere with regard to Obama’s eligibility fraud.
    ___________________

    daniel.driscoll@amedd.army.mil (email address for Driscoll)

    Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 9:58 AM

    Subject: Your recent ruling memorandum on the defense’s evidence/witness request.

    “The first thing to recognize is that you swore an oath to support and defend the United States Constitution in your military capacity.

    By proffering your ruling in the subject memorandum, you have, very simply, broken that oath. Please re-read the United States Constitution since you seem not to have done so recently – if at all. Especially pertinent is Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 ,which specifies, using mandatory language, that to be President a person must among other things be a “natural borm Citizen” of this country.

    Neither Barack Hussein Obama nor anyone else has shown that the man meets that requirement (setting aside the other two in the Article). He has never shown himself to be eligible to hold the office he now occupies. The man is putatively your Commander-in-Chief and certainly, that means if he is not legally that, then your actions in helping to shield him grossly violate the black letter law of our country, as does his promulgation of orders, funding, etc. for all of the military – you included. His waging of war (whether declared or undeclared) is not valid if he is not legally eligible to hold the office, and much of that sort of reasoning, along with the pretense of underlings such as you in carrying out all orders from on high without question, is what the Nuremberg Trials were all about after World War II. Perhaps you are too young to remember those, but I am not.

    Full Article Continued Here:

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/06/08/does-the-military-care-about-the-constitution/

    # # # #

    Some Comments At AGJ.org to this article:

    2. “ledbythnose Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 6:52 am

    This ruling has demonstrated that the Hierarchy of the Military are willfully betraying their Oath of Position as well as committing the crime of being complicit and a party to gross fraud of the American People. Driscoll and for that matter the Joint Chiefs of Staff are also complicit.
    Never before in American History has such an act of Treasonous behavior occurred and been perpetrated by so many in Government. These folks apparently are willing to risk a Civil War to cover for a man that has been proven to be a fraud. I pray that these individuals will eventually be dealt justice for their crimes against the American People.
    Godspeed.”

    3. “gumply Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 7:50 am

    They have sold their souls to the devil for power and greed. Eventually they will pay for their evil deeds against we the people if not in this world then the next.
    I am just not sure why we think that the military will come to our aid. You would think by now there would have been just one little sign and there hasn’t been.

    I pray that God will have mercy on us.

    Keeping the faith and praying for all.”

    4. “James Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 10:31 am

    Patriots Heart Radio interview with
    Ret.Gen. Paul E Valleley is a must listen. In the interview the Gen. states he has definite knowledge that Iran does have at present nuclear weaponry capabilities. Also states the fix is in as to Lt.Col. Lakin. A very informative broadcast into our Nation’s present situation.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotsheartnetwork/2010/06/09/the-militarys-perspective-a-town-hall-meeting We need to pray and continue to pray for our lives and our country.”

    6. “aprilnovember811 Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    The military are not abiding by their oath or protecting their nation. I’m not talking about the day to day soldier. I’m referring to the upper brass, who are marching in lock step with the enemy. I think Obama could order people shot in the street, and a certain segment of them would happily oblige. If they walk with the enemy, they are the enemy.”

    7. “AMP Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    Obama plans $400 million in Palestinian aid. Calls situation in Gaza Strip
    ‘unsustainable’ –Agence France-Presse”

    8. “AMP Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    OUR TAX MONEY”

    10. “live oak Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    I agree…#6.

    The miltary would happily shoot us all to death in cold blood. they’re essentially doing the same thing to LTC Lakin!!!

    We should have fought back long ago. Say goodbye to the Gulf. It will never recover….I don’t care what the experts say; it will never recover, and all of it was done deliberately.”

    11. “live oak Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    military…. Meanwhile Kenya Boy is still in the WH, and Congress does nothing.”

    12. “heather Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    what don’t we really know? more false flags coming to the US.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/usnorthcom-gears-up-for-potential-attack-on-u-s-soil.html

    13. “Jan Says:

    June 9th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    I would also recommend to LTC Driscoll et al to read also the 14th Amendment, Sec. 3: “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”

    14. “live oak Says:

    June 10th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    Here is the very latest on LTC Lakin. The article 32 hearing will not take place. They are preparing to court martial him. PLEASE keep him in your prayers!

    http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com

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