Kurt Haskell, Christmas day terrorist, Abdulmutallab, Detroit flight, January 3, 2010, Underwear Bomber, Sharp dressed man, No passport, Visa, Michigan attorney Haskell YouTube video, Indian man, We do this all the time, Pete King, Pete Hoekstra

Attention Pete King and Pete Hoekstra.

What the hell is going on?

I was traveling over the holidays and flew out of the west coast a few days after the terrorist attack on Christmas Day. I heard a report of a passenger on the flight who heard a conversation between a sharp dressed “Indian” man and airport officials in the Netherlands. The “Indian” man was pleading on behalf of a young black man who apparently had no passport. Attorney Kurt Haskell, of Michigan, relates his story here.

“Kurt Haskell of Delta Flight 253 on Alex Jones Tv No Passport Underwear Bomber”

I received the following in an email yesterday, January 2, 2010.

“I certainly hope someone is getting the below eye witness account (and the fact that we are being lied to)  to Congs. Pete King (R-NY) and Hoekstra (R-MI).”

“I talked with both of their offices on Wed. and  sent (the below)  info on the 35 Terrorist Training Camps, the Islamic Terror Networks (cells) in the US and the new throat-slashing for Muslim women being taught at the Islamabad Hancock, New York Terror Training Camp this past week.”

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“Flight 253 passenger Kurt Haskell: ‘I was visited by the FBI'”

“By Aaron Foley | MLive.com
December 31, 2009, 9:41AM

Following up on a visit from FBI officials about an eyewitness account first described to MLive.com, Michigan attorney Kurt Haskell described the visit in comment sections across MLive on Wednesday.
Haskell and his wife, Lori, were aboard Flight 253 when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab allegedly tried to destroy the plane. They say another man tried to help Abdulmutallab board the plane in Amsterdam.
Haskell had two detailed posts in two different stories. Here is Part One, originally posted here:
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/report_us_customs_says_second.html#comments
“Today is the second worst day of my life after 12-25-09. Today is the day that I realized that my own country is lying to me and all of my fellow Americans. Let me explain.
Ever since I got off of Flight 253 I have been repeating what I saw in US Customs. Specifically, 1 hour after we left the plane, bomb sniffing dogs arrived. Up to this point, all of the passengers on Flight 253 stood in a small area in an evacuated luggage claim area of an airport terminal. During this time period, all of the passengers had their carry on bags with them. When the bomb sniffing dogs arrived, 1 dog found something in a carry on bag of a 30 ish Indian man. This is not the so called “Sharp Dressed” man. I will refer to this man as “The man in orange”. The man in orange, who stood some 20ft away from me the entire time until he was taken away, was immediately taken away to be searched and interrogated in a nearby room. At this time he was not handcuffed. When he emerged from the room, he was then handcuffed and taken away. At this time an FBI agent came up to the rest of the passengers and said the following (approximate quote) “You all are being moved to another area because this area is not safe. I am sure many of you saw what just happened (Referring to the man in orange) and are smart enough to read between the lines and figure it out.” We were then marched out of the baggage claim area and into a long hallway. This entire time period and until we left customs, no person that wasn’t a law enforcement personnel or a passenger on our flight was allowed anywhere on our floor of the terminal (or possibly the entire terminal) The FBI was so concerned during this time, that we were not allowed to use the bathroom unless we went alone with an FBI agent, we were not allowed to eat or drink, or text or call anyone. I have been repeating this same story over the last 5 days. The FBI has, since we landed, insisted that only one man was arrested for the airliner attack (contradicting my account). However, several of my fellow passengers have come over the past few days, backed up my claim, and put pressure on FBI/Customs to tell the truth. Early today, I heard from two different reporters that a federal agency (FBI or Customs) was now admitting that another man has been held (and will be held indefinitely) since our flight landed for “immigration reasons.” Notice that this man was “being held” and not “arrested”, which was a cute semantic ploy by the FBI to stretch the truth and not lie.
Just a question, could that mean that the man in orange had no passport?
However, a few hours later, Customs changed its story again. This time, Mr. Ron Smith of Customs, says the man that was detained “had been taken into custody, but today tells the news the person was a passenger on a different flight.” Mr. Ron Smith, you are playing the American public for a fool. Lets take a look at how plausible this story is (After you’ve already changed it twice). For the story to be true, you have to believe, that:

1. FBI/Customs let passengers from another flight co-mingle with the passengers of flight 253 while the most important investigation in 8 years was pending. I have already stated that not one person who wasn’t a passenger or law enforcement personnal was in our area the entire time we were detained by Customs.
2. FBI/Customs while detaining the flight 253 passengers in perhaps the most important investigation since the last terrorist attack, and despite not letting any flight 253 passenger drink, eat, make a call, or use the bathroom, let those of other flights trample through the area and possibly contaminate evidence.
3. You have to believe the above (1 and 2) despite the fact that no flights during this time allowed passengers to exit off of the planes at all and were detained on the runway during at least the first hour of our detention period.
4. You have to believe that the man that stood 20 feet from me since we entered customs came from a mysterious plane that never landed, let its passengers off the plane and let this man sneak into our passenger group despite having extremely tight security at this time (i.e. no drinking even).
5. FBI/Customs was hauling mysterious passengers from other flights through the area we were being held to possibly comtaminate evidence and allow discussions with suspects on Flight 253 or to possibly allow the exchange of bombs, weapons or other devices between the mysterious passengers from other flights and those on flight 253.
Seriously Mr. Ron Smith, how stupid do you think the American public is?
Mr. Ron Smith’s third version of the story is an absolute inplausible joke. I encourage you, Mr. Ron Smith, to debate me anytime, anywhere, and anyplace in public to let the American people see who is credible and who is not.
I ask, isn’t this the more plausible story:
1. Customs/FBI realized that they screwed up and don’t want to admit that they left flight 253 passengers on a flight with a live bomb on the runway for 20 minutes.
2. Customs/FBI realized that they screwed up and don’t want to admit that they left flight 253 passengers in customs for 1 hour with a live bomb in a carry on bag.
3. Customs/FBI realize that the man in orange points to a greater involvement then the lone wolf theory that they have been promoting.
Mr. Ron Smith I encourage you to come out of your cubicle and come up with a more plausible version number 4 of your story.”
Haskell continued his comment in a different post on MLive.
“For the last five days I have been reporting my story of the so called “sharp dressed man.” For those of you who haven’t read my account, it involves a sharp dressed “Indian man” attempting to talk a ticket agent into letting a supposed “Sudanese refugee” (The terrorist) onto flight 253 without a passport. I have never had any idea how it played out except to note that the so called “Sudanese reefugee” later boarded my flight and attempted to blow it up and kill me. At no time did my story involve, or even find important whether the terrorist actually had a passport. The importance of my story was and always will be, the attempt with an accomplice (apparently succesful) of a terrorist with all sorts of prior terrorist warning signs to skirt the normal passport boarding procedures in Amsterdam. By the way, Amsterdam security did come out the other day and admit that the terrorist did not have to “Go through normal passport checking procedures”.
Amsterdam security, please define to the American public “Normal passport boarding procedures”.
You see the FBI would have the American public believe that what was important was whether the terrorist in fact had a passport.
Seriously think about this people. You have a suicide bomber who had recently been to Yemen to but a bomb, whose father had reported him as a terrorist, who supposedly was on some kind of U.S. terror watchlist, and most likely knew the U.S. was aware of these red flags. Yet, he didn’t go through “Normal passport checking procedures.” What does that mean? Maybe that he flashed a passport to some sort of sympathetic security manager in a backroom to avoid a closer look at the terrorist’s “red flags”? What is important is that the terrorist avoided using normal passport checking procedures (apparently successfully) in order to avoid a closer look into his red flags. Who cares if he had a passport. The important thing is that he didn’t want to show it and somehow avoided a closer inspection and “normal passport checking procedures.” Each passport comes with a bar code on it that can be scanned to provide a wealth of information about the individual. I would bet that the passport checking procedures for the terrorist did not include a bar code scan of his passport (which could have revealed damning information about the terrorist).
Please note that there is a very easy way to verify the veracity of my prior “sharp dressed man” account. Dutch police have admitted that they have reviewed the video of the “sharp dressed man” that I referenced. Note that it has not been released anywhere, You see, if my eye witness account is false, it could easily be proven by releasing the video. However, the proof of my eyewitness account would also be verified if I am telling the truth and I am. There is a reason we have only heard of the video and not seen it. dutch authorities, “RELEASE THE VIDEO!” This is the most important video in 8 years and may be all of two minutes long. Show the entire video and “DO NOT EDIT IT”! The American public deserves its own chance to attempt to identify the “sharp dressed man”. I have no doubt that if the video indicated that my account was wrong, that the video would have already swept over the entire world wide web.
Instead of the video, we get a statement that the video has been viewed and that the terrorist had a passport. Each of these statements made by the FBI is a self serving play on semantics and each misses the importance of my prior “sharp dressed man” account. The importance being that the man “Tried to board the plane with an accomplice and without a passort”. The other significance is that only the airport security video can verify my eyewitness account and that it is not being released.
Who has the agenda here and who doesn’t? Think about that for a minute.”

http://mlive.com

Citizen Wells

I intend to dig deeper into this controversy.

316 responses to “Kurt Haskell, Christmas day terrorist, Abdulmutallab, Detroit flight, January 3, 2010, Underwear Bomber, Sharp dressed man, No passport, Visa, Michigan attorney Haskell YouTube video, Indian man, We do this all the time, Pete King, Pete Hoekstra

  1. CW,

    I no longer believe the media or our govenment. Spin and facade, not facts and truth. This bomber had to have been ‘escorted’ to the plane by US agents. I can not envision another way he would have been able to get on the plane without a passport or ID.

    I believe that we are being ‘herded’. We as a people, must not ‘react’ to the ‘news’ but think carefully about what we hear and if it adds up. The author above asks us to do just that, and notes that he has NOTHING to gain by lying about what he experienced, and alot at risk.

    The 911 truthers and the birthers have one simple common factor. The groups agree that the government and government controlled media is lying to the people. Some simple unanswered questions:

    1. Where are the black boxes from the 911 flights? –Many witnesses say they were found.
    2. What happened to the gold in the WTC basement (gold is made in a sun—it doesn’t evaporate in a fire)
    3. What happened to the 134.5 billion in US treasury bonds siezed on the Italian border, what happened to the smugglers?
    2. Where is the video of the escort for the Christmas Bomber—Witnesses say he was escorted to the plane, see above.
    3. Where is Obama’s long form BC, where are his college records? Why won’t Hawaiian DoH confirm his 2007 COLB as valid?

    These simple documents, answers, and videos would blow the lid off whatever is being covered up, and yes I think it is all related.

  2. I believe that it is time that the (alleged) Federal Government started telling the truth to us. Further it is also time that constructive changes within Homeland Security are undertaken. Hopefully such action will begin with JANET NAPOLITANO, (who is way over her head.) We need Kirk Lippold to head the Homeland Security. Perfectly qualified!

  3. My apologies in advance for this long post, but it’s a must read and CW, it will assist you in digging deeper. Btw, Dad isn’t a banker. Wait until you learn his real profession.

    By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

    (STORY CONTINUALLY UPDATING WITH BREAKING NEWS!)

    When nothing adds up, its time we starting looking at what we know. Our recent terrorist, now dubbed “the crotch bomber” is another dupe. He could have been working for anyone, drugged, brainwashed or simply influenced, maybe by crazy Arabs, maybe by the Mossad, maybe by the CIA. We only know the game is falling apart.

    We do know a couple of things. Dad, back in Nigeria, ran the national arms industry (DICON) in partnership with Israel, in particular, the Mossad. He was in daily contact with them. They run everything in Nigeria, from arms production to counter-terrorism. Though Islamic, Muttalab was a close associate of Israel. He has been misrepresented. His “banking” is a cover. Next, what do we know about the two Al Qaeda leaders Bush had released, the ones who planned this?

    According to ABC news, the Al Qaeda leaders running the insurgency in Yemen were released from Guantanamo, although two of the highest ranking known terrorist there, without trial.

    Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody.

    Both of the former Guantanamo detainees are described as military commanders and appear on a January, 2009 video along with the man described as the top leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, Abu Basir Naser al-Wahishi, formerly Osama bin Laden’s personal secretary.

    With all the hoopla about trials in New York, not a word is said when top level terrorists are released to Saudi friends of the Bush family who let them go. We are now fighting these two Bush friends in Yemen. They are running a major insurgency there. We have been using Cruise missiles and our jets to attack their bases in the last weeks.

    CBS NEWS LEARNS CIA HAD ADVANCE INFORMATION ON DETROIT TERRORIST

    CBS News has learned that as early as August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed “The Nigerian,” suspected of meeting with “terrorist elements” in Yemen.

    Sources tell CBS News “The Nigerian” has now turned out to be Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. But that connection was not made when Abudulmutallab’s father went to the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria three months later, on November 19, 2009. It was then he expressed deep concerns to a CIA officer about his son’s ties to extremists in Yemen, a hotbed of al Qaeda activity.

    THE CIA OFFICIAL STATEMENT

    CIA admits broad information during the November interview, information not acted on in any responsible way but failed to understand that the terrorist they were warned of in November was the one they had been tracking since August.

    “We learned of him in November, when his father came to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria and sought help in finding him. We did not have his name before then,” said Paul Gimigliano, a CIA spokesman. “Also in November, we worked with the embassy to ensure he was in the government’s terrorist database – including mention of his possible extremist connections in Yemen. We also forwarded key biographical information about him to the National Counterterrorism Center.

    CIA, ISRAEL AND YEMEN

    It is claimed by groups claiming to be Al Qaeda in Yemen that the Detroit attack was in retaliation to US attacks on bases in Yemen run by Al Qaeda leaders released by Bush.

    The government of Yemen, as reported in the BBC , says that the Al Qaeda terrorists, led by those released by Bush, are really Israeli agents though they have organized attacks against US targets:

    Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence. Mr Saleh did not say what evidence had been found to show the group’s links with Israel, a regional enemy of Yemen. The arrests were connected with an attack on the US embassy in Sanaa last month which killed at least 18 people, official sources were quoted saying.

    “A terrorist cell was arrested and will be referred to the judicial authorities for its links with the Israeli intelligence services,” Mr Saleh told a gathering at al-Mukalla University in Hadramawt province. “Details of the trial will be announced later. You will hear about what goes on in the proceedings,” he added.

    The 17 September attack was the second to target the US embassy since April. Militants detonated car bombs before firing rockets at the heavily fortified building.

    Mr Saleh did not identify the suspects, but official sources were quoted saying it was same cell – led by a militant called Abu al-Ghaith al-Yamani – whose arrest was announced a week after the attack.

    With continual reports from Pakistan that India and Israel have been involved in terrorst attacks against US supporters there and the recent reports that the Detroit bomber was assisted by an Indian while boarding in Amsterdam and partially confirmed reports that a second bomber, an Indian, was arrested and taken from the plane in Detroit. MILive broke this story in the US which originated with Reuters:

    Reuters reports Dutch military police are investigating claims that an accomplice may have helped Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab board Northwest Flight 253 in Amsterdam on Christmas day without a passport.

    Kurt Haskell of Newport, Mich., took to the comments section of this Web site early Saturday to share his story: That he and his wife, Lori, saw a well-dressed man help Abdulmutallab board the flight without a passport under the guise he was a Sudanese refugee. The military police have already said Abdulmutallab did not go through passport control at Schiphol when he arrived from Lagos.

    In another interview on Inside Edition, Haskell described what happened:

    A passenger has come forward with disturbing new details about the plot to bring down a jet, including the astonishing claim that the accused terrorist was able to board the plane without a passport.

    Kurt Haskell showed INSIDE EDITION his boarding pass for Northwest flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit. The lawyer, who lives outside Detroit, was returning home from an African safari when he says he saw the terror suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallabm, and another man, who he thought was Indian, approach the ticket agent.

    “Only the Indian man spoke,” says Haskell, “And what he said was, ‘This man needs to board the plane but he doesn’t have a passport.’ ”

    “His clothes were like jeans and a t-shirt or something, he looked kind of thin, like a 16-year-old teenager, and the other man, looked like he was 50 years old, looked like he was a wealthy, Indian man. I just couldn’t figure out why they were together,” Haskell tells INSIDE EDITION.

    An earlier CBS news report today stated:

    CBS News has learned the State Department system designed to keep track of active U.S. visas twice failed to reveal Nigerian terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab had been issued an active visa allowing him multiple entries into the United States.

    According to a law enforcement source, the first failure came on Nov. 19, 2009, the very same day Abdulmutallab father’s, Dr. Umaru Mutallab, a prominent banking official in Nigeria, expressed deep concern to officials at the U.S. Embassy in Abjua, Nigeria, that his 23-year-old son had fallen under the influence of “religious extremists” in Yemen.

    The second failure to flag an active visa belonging to Abdulmuttalab occurred the very next day in Washington, after Mutallab’s concerns were forwarded to officials there. It was only after the Christmas Day terror attack in Detroit that U.S. officials learned that Abdulmuttalab had been issued a visa by the U.S. Embassy in London valid from June 16, 2008, through June 12, 2010. ..

    Thus, in another set of coincidences, the system put in place after 9/11, meant to prevent the misuse of student visas for terrorist acts, single, Islamic engineering students tied to religious extremists being a risk factor in that area, failed totally.

    Picture the November 19 interview. A poor taxi driver comes to the US embassy: “My son, he is hanging around with a rough crowd. He says he wants to blow something up!”

    No, wait, that was someone else. Picture the November 19 interview. One of the richest people in the world, head of a major bank, cabinet minister, head of the national armaments industry, close associate of the US Ambassador and someone known around the world makes an appointment to come to the US embassy.

    He wouldn’t have met a clerk. The US Ambassador himself would have arranged for the highest ranking officer in the embassy hold the interview. Mr. Muttalab would have been greeted by the ambassador when he came to the embassy.

    MUTALLAH MEETS WITH CIA CHIEF OF STATION IN NIGERIA, NOVEMBER 19

    We have confirmed that Mutallah met with the CIA chief of station in Nigeria.

    Imagine this person of great power and influence, with friends at the highest levels of the CIA and Mossad. When he came to announce his son may be a terrorist, he was a loving father asking for help? He would have made this points:

    – My son is a danger to himself and others, please keep him safe.
    – Do not allow my son to travel to the United States under any imaginable circumstances as he is likely to be involved in acts of terrorism.
    – Please assure me that you will act immediately and contact me as to what measures you have taken.

    Were any of this true, this is what would have been said. Were any of what we have been told true, none of what we saw in Detroit could have happened. What we know is that something very different than this really happened. Go ahead and Google “muttalab, nigeria, bank, mossad, defense”

    Let’s look at the Wayne Marsden report on the failures at the airport in Amsterdam along with direct ties between this case and the shoe bomber Richard Reid:

    The Mutallab case also resembles that of another
    attempted plane bombing, that of the hapless “shoe bomber” Richard
    Reid.

    It has also been revealed that Mutallab is the son of Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, the former chairman of First Bank of Nigeria. According to
    This Day of Lagos, the elder Mutallab claims he reported the extremist views of his son to Nigerian security agencies, as well as to the U.S. embassy in Abuja, yet no attempt was made to prevent the radically-inclined Nigerian student to board the plane in Schiphol.

    The attempted plane bomber was schooled at the British International School in Lome, Togo and attended college in London and moved to
    Egypt and Dubai. The elder Mutallab is a frequent visitor to the United States and he is married to a Yemeni woman. …

    Marsden points out the well established family ties to Yemen thru his wife. He further points out how Israel managed to bring the terrorist son of Mutallab through multiple airport security obstacles with the same ease the United States shephered a known terrorist through a visa process. What we hadn’t seen is how much this process had been tested during the “shoe bomber” episode.

    For a number of years, passengers at Schiphol flying to the United States have been subjected to intense grilling by security personnel linked to an Israeli firm.

    US bound passengers at Schiphol are asked a number of personal questions, including where
    they have stayed either in the Netherlands or in their country of origin. Hotel receipts are routinely requested by security personnel
    and the addresses of private temporary residences are recorded.

    Mutallab boarded a KLM flight in Lagos for Schiphol where he transited for his onward flight to Detroit on Northwest/Delta.

    Six months prior to Reid’s near shoe bombing of American Airlines flight 63 from Paris to Miami in December 2001, while memories of
    9/11 were still fresh in everyone’s mind, Reid attempted to board an El Al flight from Schiphol to Tel Aviv.

    Reid was taken aside by El Al security and identified as a terrorist suspect. Reid paid for a
    one-way ticket with cash and would not reveal what he planned to do in Israel.

    However, rather than turning Reid into Dutch security for further action, he was allowed to board the El Al flight by Israel’s Shin Bet security so his movements during his five days in Israel
    could be monitored.

    Six months later, Reid attempted to ignite his
    shoe on the flight from Paris to Miami. Israel had not informed British, American, or any other security agency of the concerns about
    Reid. Reid’s aunt, Claudette Lewis who raised Reid in south London, was quoted as saying she believed her nephew had been “brainwashed.”

    Reid later said El Al failed to detect that he had explosives in his shoes on the flight to Tel Aviv, an amazing revelation considering the Israeli airline’s tight security… The links between El Al security and Mossad are extremely close with
    abundant cross-pollination of senior personnel back and forth.

    The security company that allowed Reid to board American Airlines 63 at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris was ICTS (International Consultants on Targeted Security) International. ICTS’s senior
    management are all ex-Israeli security officials, many of whom worked for El Al security.

    It was ICTS that largely developed the passenger “profiling” procedures used at Schiphol and other airports around the world
    through its subsidiary, ICTS Holland Products BV.

    JUST THE FACTS:

    Let’s review what we know thus far:

    Our terrorist traveled to Yemen to meet with terrorist there

    The terrorists in Yemen had been in Guantanamo but had been ordered released by the Bush Administration though they were, perhaps the most dangerous detainees held

    The government of Yemen tells us that Islamic terrorists there have been arrested who have proven ties to Israeli intelligence

    Our terrorists father, though we are told is a retired “Nigerian banker” actually ran their defense industry in close cooperation with Israeli Intelligence (Mossad)

    Our terrorist’s visa to the US was never with withdrawn, though he was on a “terrorist watchlist”

    Our terrorist, though flying from Nigeria, entered the Netherlands without passing thru customs, something impossible to do without assistance from an intelligence agency

    Our terrorist, while at the Amsterdam airport, was being assisted by a man appearing to be Indian, who claimed our Nigerian terrorist was a Sudanese refugee with no passport (no passport was used entering the EU, something technically impossible)

    However, Dutch authorities, the same ones who confirmed he entered the country with no passport also confirmed he had a valid US visa, though on a terrorist watch list that is shared with Dutch authorities.

    Airport security in Amsterdam is contracted to an Israeli controlled company with, not only the most sophisticated technologies, but, in fact, the company that had developed the concept of security profiling.

    The parallels between this case and the Richard Reid “shoe bomber” case are much more than admitted.

    WHERE THE STORY IS GOING

    We keep going back to 2007. Why were these terrorists released to Saudi custody? Why did Saudi Arabia release them soon afterward? With the 2nd major terrorist front in the world being Yemen and the terrorist operation there under the control of released Bush detainees, there is reason for suspicion.

    While we have all of these facts, easily verifiable, we have a much stronger case against the Bush Administration or Israel than Al Qaeda. There is no real evidence that Al Qaeda would be operating in Yemen without American or Saudi help and even, as stated by the Government of Yemen, direct material assistance from Israel.

    Why would such a thing be done, something against all reason unless terrorism itself was part of a larger regional plan and a “war on terror” was only a ruse.

    When Pakistan comes to us and says that Israel and India are involved in terrorism there and we ignore it, is it because it isn’t credible or because the US government has been involved, as we seem to be involved in Yemen?

    WHY THE STORY HAS TO GRIND TO A STOP OR….”THE WHOLE DIRTY MESS WILL COLLAPSE”

    Why are we satisfied to take one person into custody, one person who ties to so many irregularities and ask nothing else?

    As with 9/11 and so many other seeminly impossible times when so many things go wrong that only great power and the cooperation of many agencies in many countries could make it possible, why do we ask nothing.

    We have a major investigation in Nigeria, not only of the father and his connections to Israel but our own embassy and why they left this visa alone when the individual was a known terrorist.

    How could this terrorist travel to Yemen to meet with an organization run by former detainees released by Bush and his Saudi friends, former detainees that Yemen claims are working for israel? How could he do this and be allowed to return to Nigeria, a country whose intelligence services are tied to Israel and trained by Israel. They would have known in a second.

    How did this terrorist enter the Netherlands without showing a passport? Try it. You will meet lots of Dutch people who will keep you in a small room for hours, days even. It is absolutely impossible.

    People are picked up in the EU while in passport control for non-payment of child support. I am being told they can’t find a terrorist?

    We haven’t begun to discover how he got past security equipment and screening. It isn’t like he isn’t the highest profile potential terrorist who has entered Nigeria in decades. He is Islamic, young and traveling alone. Ask any young Islamic traveler how many times they have been searched.

    Is is on a terrorist watchlist. This is like the “no fly list” on steroids. You aren’t just denied flight, you are put under immediate surveillance.

    If he had shown his passport, it would have shown him entering Yemen, a known terrorist training ground. This would have stopped him also.

    With the Bush administration releasing terrorist leaders and shepherding them back into their former profession, with our embassy, State Department, Homeland Security and every other organization we spent so many billions of dollars to “coordinate” all failing, is there, just perhaps, a minor sign of conspiracy?

    I would call President Obama to account for failures to discover what appears to be a conspiracy of his predecessor but, as the GOP blogs that fill the internet are working overtime to obscure the facts and place the blame on Obama alone, there could be no greater proof of non-involvement.

    Frankly, if the Obama administration was involved with Bush, as it seems they are, then the Bush/Cheney “disinformation” attack dogs would be leashed. They are not. Thus, Bush and Cheney should be targeted for investigation.

    —————————————————————Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on policial and social issues.

  4. I know like everyone else Michelle lost her law license, but we still don’t know why, coming from Chicago I don’t know what they mean in this article re: bagman, but more and more people in Chicago are starting to talk-maybe more information will leak.
    http://ow.ly/SkmE
    This story about Michelle Robinson / Obama has been around for quite awhile but for some reason more people are talking, with more candid comments on the net. People connected to the incident are now releasing more details. Blogs like mine are now putting the pieces together and it doesn’t look very good for our First Lady. The more I dig into this the more it seems that Michelle Obama may have been caught as a bag man/bag women for Mayor Daley of Chicago. She was hired by Valerie Jarrett to supposedly take over her dirty little job. This bit of information came off a CNN web site. It’s just one example of many comments on this matter. You know what they say where there’s smoke there’s usually fire and I think we have a firestorm brewing.

  5. I can’t help wonder why most of what Duff wrote isn’t classified. Much of this is still developing,and could lead to a great deal of information that would have to be classified because of sensetivity issues. During WW2 there was a little saying that was in everyone’s mind. It simply said”Loose lips sinks ships.”

  6. Michelle………………………………….
    It seems to me that Blago might be the person to approach for Illinois Bar Association disciplinary information. He still has contacts with people who are inside the cesspool . Otherwise you might contact Andy Martin, and see if he is interested in doing some wading in the Chicago cesspool. He is running for office ,and might be interested in such a project,particularly if the potential outcome could give his campaign a boost. Andy might enjoy stirring up a “BIG STINK”for his oppenents to inhale.

  7. ANDY MARTIN CONTACT INFO:

    Andy Martin for U. S. Senator anthony@contrariancommentary.ccsend.com

    on behalf of Andy Martin for U. S. Senator andyforussenator@aol.com

  8. Michelle……..

    Do you personally know anyone working for the Chicago Tribune? It would seem that any information regarding Illinois Bar Association disciplinary action would be grist for the Tribune’s mill. Perhaps there is a printed record somewhere in the Tribune’s older story archives that could be available for FREE, if you are willing to do the research. Such a search could end up yeilding a pile of PURE GOLD. Get what I mean?

  9. Michelle………
    Do you have a good search engine? Many public libraries have specialised search engines that can search places that ordinary search capability passes over. Any library that has a genealogical database should have a specialised search engine, that will turn over EVERY stone.

  10. Michelle………
    If you have the approximate date of the revocation of her law liscense ,and the story was published in the Tribune finding the archive should be a piece of cake for you. Isn’t there another Chicago newspaper that was being printed during the years in question. I seem to recollect a publication called the PLAINS DEALER, does that ring a bell?

  11. Jacqlyn Smith

    If he had shown his passport, it would have shown him entering Yemen, a known terrorist training ground. This would have stopped him also.

    With the Bush administration releasing terrorist leaders and shepherding them back into their former profession, with our embassy, State Department, Homeland Security and every other organization we spent so many billions of dollars to “coordinate” all failing, is there, just perhaps, a minor sign of conspiracy?

    I would call President Obama to account for failures to discover what appears to be a conspiracy of his predecessor but, as the GOP blogs that fill the internet are working overtime to obscure the facts and place the blame on Obama alone, there could be no greater proof of non-involvement.

    Frankly, if the Obama administration was involved with Bush, as it seems they are, then the Bush/Cheney “disinformation” attack dogs would be leashed. They are not. Thus, Bush and Cheney should be targeted for investigation.

    —————————————————————Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on policial and social issues.
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    d2i….I would venture that this is another attempt by the Liberals to distract the issues at hand and the deceit of the present administration……Cheney did come out and attack the FRAUD and his cohorts on this breach of security in public…his statements have been all over Fox News where the opponents of course are denying the facts that the FRAUD and this administration have done most everything to weaken our National Defense….and they are now sending out more disinformation…I read that the two terrorist you refer to were released to the Saudis for rehabilitation and sent home once it was completed…..also the FRAUD is set to release 90 or so terrorist back to Yemen…..without a trial of any kind…..the Liberals are pushing to close Guantanamo and this is one way to do it….send them all back home!!! Doesn’t that make you feel safe???? NOT!!!!

  12. This is just scary as Hell…….I’m not sure my psychy can take much more of this ‘transparency’ from our government!!!

  13. We as a people, must not ‘react’ to the ‘news’ but think carefully about what we hear and if it adds up.
    *******
    PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION…….

  14. Michelle // January 3, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Lordy, Michelle, did you get a load of that pic of Moochelle posted on the link you provided?

    I could say something, but I won’t….

  15. SueK, yes, that picture of MOOcHELLe was pretty scary

  16. Pete // January 3, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    You left out two…..
    Where did the automatic electronic withdrawal from one monitor of one source amounting to billions of dollars go minutes before one surviver got out of the bldg???
    Why is the video from across the Oklahoma City bombing (??) being withheld even with FOIA filed???

  17. JJ // January 3, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Pete // January 3, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    You left out two…..
    Where did the automatic electronic withdrawal from one monitor of one source amounting to billions of dollars go minutes before one surviver got out of the bldg???
    Why is the video from across the Oklahoma City bombing (??) being withheld even with FOIA filed???

    Add one:
    Who started the story of black ops directed by George Bush and company retreiving gold from the basement of Fort Hood during the terrorist attack??

  18. Kim // January 3, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Hi Kim,

    Very creative use of caps on your part, I must say!

    She’s scary, regardless….

  19. We are at war against hatred?? WTH?

    Obama said. “Our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred, and that we will do whatever it takes to defeat them and defend our country.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aN89_GM0d6do&pos=8

  20. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    oldsalt77 // January 3, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    I can’t help wonder why most of what Duff wrote isn’t classified. Much of this is still developing,and could lead to a great deal of information that would have to be classified because of sensetivity issues. During WW2 there was a little saying that was in everyone’s mind. It simply said”Loose lips sinks ships.”
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    OldSalt…..I was wondering the same thing….is he a plant by the present administration to distract???

  21. FOR ALL……………………………..
    After re reading Duff’s story I find myself wondering what his political faith is. While I don’t in any way impughn,or question the validity of the story, I heard a certain ring to the story that I have heard before. Whenever a story is taken to a JAMES BOND sort of PRODUCTION, it smacks of HOLLYWOOD type of editing, and comes across to me as a possible TUB OF TRIPE, cooked by our adversaries, and put before us in the hope that we will eat it up. I am not an OBOT they are the only people who eat tripe. In short I am not sure if I believe all of this story, or not. There is a lot of information to correlate with known data before I will believe it in full.

  22. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    oldsalt77 // January 3, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    FOR ALL……………………………..
    After re reading Duff’s story I find myself wondering what his political faith is. While I don’t in any way impughn,or question the validity of the story, I heard a certain ring to the story that I have heard before. Whenever a story is taken to a JAMES BOND sort of PRODUCTION, it smacks of HOLLYWOOD type of editing, and comes across to me as a possible TUB OF TRIPE, cooked by our adversaries, and put before us in the hope that we will eat it up. I am not an OBOT they are the only people who eat tripe. In short I am not sure if I believe all of this story, or not. There is a lot of information to correlate with known data before I will believe it in full.
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    OldSalt…..I am with you…..Does anyone know this Duff character and could he be sent to distract from what the Liberals are going to be doing behind closed doors tomorrow and that is crafting a Health Care bill for the FRAUD to sign…..I had to laugh when Fox did a story on the FRAUD’S last days in Hawaii and included a picture of the hospital he was born in…..YEAH right…..where’s the proof he was born there….MORONS….all of them!! You can’t believe anything anyone writes or says anymore without the proof and this Duff character really tells a good HOLLYWOOD type story like you say OS!!!

  23. Everyone call the citizens of Massachusetts and to go vote Scott Brown on Jan. 19…RING EVERY PHONE IN THAT DAMN STATE.Let’s Roll!

    http://brownbrigade.ning.com/

  24. JS – like I said the other day, my mind is going to remain open to ALL possibilities. It was closed for a very long time while I drank the kool aid from the left and I have no intention of going back.

    I will say this, however, other blogs I read outside of the US hint at the similar information. One such blog had a similar post last week and stated that one of the primary reasons American’s are unaware of what’s really going on is b/c we don’t go outside of the US MSM to get learn how others or what others are learning about our country.

    As an Indenpendent I will no longer buy into the talking points from either the Ds or Rs. Those days are long over for me.

  25. Jacqlyn Smith

    d2i….Here is a portion of a post at….

    http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/01/02/another-obama-cia-rift-as-potus-deflects-blame-from-self-dni-and-appointees/

    typical to blame Bush and the CIA for his failings……that is why I question this Duff character as maybe a plant by the FRAUD and his cohorts????
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That was April… by September, investigations and broken promises were well underway – with Holder taking the heat instead of the POTUS. Either this President is a manipulated puppet figure, or the liar. But then… this is becoming a pattern with this President.

    When it comes to accessible information, Obama is busy either releasing selective data, or locking it away… whichever proves to be more politically expedient for his image. As Wordsmith pointed out only yesterday, WH officials, pouring thru the Bush archives to find intel failures, is fair game if it helps the press focus anywhere other than his own admin’s failures. It will, however, be difficult to find Bush failures that lessen the blow to Obama’s national security credentials since events like the underwear bomber or the shootings at Ft. Hood simply didn’t happen post 911.

    Obama’s assault on the CIA goes back even further… with a jr. Senator on record… Congressional Record most specifically… in putting the CIA on notice. In an ironic choice of date – Pearl Harbor Day – then Sen. Obama and professional POTUS campaigner lambasted the CIA over the destruction of videotape, and suggested that the CIA felt themselves to be above the law.

  26. Kim // January 3, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Kim, that article made me laugh….look who’s talking about hatred!

  27. Jacqlyn Smith

    JS – like I said the other day, my mind is going to remain open to ALL possibilities. It was closed for a very long time while I drank the kool aid from the left and I have no intention of going back.

    I will say this, however, other blogs I read outside of the US hint at the similar information. One such blog had a similar post last week and stated that one of the primary reasons American’s are unaware of what’s really going on is b/c we don’t go outside of the US MSM to get learn how others or what others are learning about our country.

    As an Indenpendent I will no longer buy into the talking points from either the Ds or Rs. Those days are long over for me.
    *******************************************

    d2i….I understand….I have always been an independent…..never registered to any party or contributed to any party…..I vote for the candidate and not the party…..but it takes a lot of research and wading through the disinformation out there used to throw us all off base!!

  28. magna carta // January 3, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Calling, Magna! I even called myself :).

  29. D2i = 5;36pm

    EXCELLENT ! This shows that you are doing your homework. My hat is off to you. My final word on your comment is ……..AMEN

  30. No matter how bull dung is stacked, it remains…………….BULLSH##. If you disagree try the SMELL TEST!

  31. Brezezinski in his book “The Grand Chessboard” says, “Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public’s sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization.”

    “To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.”

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/brzezinskigrandchessboard

    Hence Obama is bent on socializing the U.S. and is using false flag terrorist attacks to keep “security dependence among the vassals.”

    Resist! Recall! Repeal! Revolt!

  32. Jacqlyn Smith

    d2i….this might be of interest to you and everyone here as well…..please read the entire post at…

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2004/09/007911.php

    Robert Novak passed away a few months back but was a very credible journalist….

    WTH???? written in 2004….CIA was undercutting the Bush administration???

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    The CIA’s War Against President Bush
    Share Post Print
    September 27, 2004 Posted by John at 7:00 AM

    We have talked repeatedly about the guerrilla war that the CIA, long a Democratic stronghold, has conducted for years against the Bush administration. Increasingly, that war is breaking out into the open, and we are sorry to see that our old friend (and Deacon’s former roommate) Paul Pillar appears to be playing a key role. Robert Novak reports:

  33. retreiving …..retrieving

  34. The more I dig into this the more it seems that Michelle Obama may have been caught as a bag man/bag women for Mayor Daley of Chicago.

    re:A bag man (or bagman), is a person designated to collect money in a protection racket, who in this context may also be known as a delivery boy or running man.

  35. Jacqlyn Smith

    I came across this comment by a blogger who calls himself “wordsmith”…..makes some sense to me…..
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The CIA has been dysfunctional for a long time. Through the 90’s, the Agency became more and more risk-averse, appointing DO operators who had never been field agents themselves; out of touch like career politicians, concerned more with political-correctness than with the actual business of gathering intelligence.

    And during the Bush years, I think there were those in the Agency who did some harm in undermining the White House out of political differences.

    Mata also is right in saying that those who go into the CIA are heroes trying to keep us safe. The first casualty in Afghanistan was Mike Spann. And of course we had the recent deaths in Afghanistan. These agents risk their lives to protect our country.

    I think what the difference is between Bush and Obama in their relationship with dealing with the CIA is that Obama is fingering blame at the CIA. Contrast that with Bush’s reassurance after 9/11, that he wasn’t going to finger-point blame; that he needed the Agency to not wallow in guilt and embarrassment over intelligence failures but to get to work right away.

    Pg 62 of Ronald Kessler’s The Terrorist Watch:

    President Bush recognized that the failure to catch the hijackers was systemic. Instead of assigning blame, Bush began taking steps to correct the problems, making it clear that lack of cooperation between the FBI and CIA would not be tolerated and asking Congress for billions in additional funding for the CIA.

    Bush took the approach that to protect America, the help of FBI agents and CIA officers was critical. They risked their lives simply going to work. Along with the Capitol and the White House, the headquarters of the CIA and FBI were the most likely terrorist targets. Yet after 9/11, the FBI and CIA came under constant criticism. Nothing they did was portrayed by the press in a positive light.

    Rather than castigate the two agencies, Bush visited the FBI and the CIA to tell employees how crucial they were to winning the war on terror.

    “One week after 9/11, Bush came to the CIA,” George Tenet recalls. “He said, ‘I trust you, and I need you.’ It doesn’t often happen that way in Washington, D.C. The president could have easily cut us off at the knees. Instead, he came to us and said, ‘I have enormous confidence in the men and women of this organization. I know what your work has been like.’ If you don’t think that made a difference in everything that has happened since,” Tenet said, “you don’t understand the relationship between the CIA and the president. It gave us peace of mind so we could do our jobs. Our boss was at our back. There isn’t enough money in the world to tell you what that meant.”

    That’s the difference.

    Bush is about leadership and getting the job taken care of. Obama is about me, me me, appearances, and protecting his legacy as the 2nd coming of MLK-JFK.

  36. Bag Lady!

  37. Jacqlyn Smith

    d2i….another interesting article I came across….here is a portion….it is rather long so go to…..

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21538

    if you want to read the entire article!
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    SABOTAGE: Rowan Scarborough Talks About his New CIA Book
    by Human Events
    07/16/2007

    Jed Babbin (JB): We’re speaking with my good friend, Rowan Scarborough, national security correspondent for the Washington Examiner and author of, Sabotage: America’s Enemies Within the CIA. released today by Regnery. Rowan, just last week we heard Michael Chertoff say that, he’s got a “gut feeling” that we’re going to be hit by the terrorists again this summer. Why doesn’t our intelligence community have something better than a gut feeling about that?

    Rowan Scarborough (RS): We are really still paying for what happened to the CIA and the whole intelligence community in the 90s. For example, the CIA structure in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, was down to a handful of officers by the end of the 90s. The CIA closed scores of bases during the 90s, all over the world, including in Hamburg, Germany — the place where the 9/11 plot really began, and where radicalized Muslims were really cropping up in Europe.

    Secondly, in the 90s we did not invest in technology to eavesdrop on these people, and in Sabotage I explain that the National Security Agency has been playing catch-up to try to come up with new technologies to match e-mail and the Internet. These two things burgeoned in the 90s, and they paralleled the rise of radical Islam. But NASA’s budget was going down, the CIA’s budget was going down. We just didn’t keep up.

    JB: But all of that was fixed, wasn’t it? We had the 9/11 Commission, and all these wonderful intelligence reforms — Come on, Rowan, all this stuff is fixed, everything’ everything’s wonderful, right?

    RS: You cannot fix a decade of neglect in just four or five years. And, as Sabotage proves, the “improvements” made on the recommendation of the 9-11 Commission didn’t fix the problems. In some cases, they made the problems worse by adding more unproductive bureaucracy.

    JB: In Sabotage you make the case that the CIA is a rogue agency, not answerable to the president. That they’re not following his policies or trying to support him in this war — What in the world is going on? Is the CIA really that bad, really that rogue?

    RS: Well, about three years ago John McCain became probably the first politician who declared the CIA a ‘rogue agency.’ And it is because inside the CIA, the bureaucracy at Langley had a priority of leaking and stopping Bush administration programs, rather than following the policy directives of the White House. And we’ve seen that in countless leaks about terrorist surveillance programs, the prisons where they were trying to interrogate top-ranking al Qaeda prisoners, in station reports from Baghdad. When Porter Goss took over the CIA in 2004, really trying to reform it, what happened? He died by a million leaks. It was a cut every day, until Porter Goss by 2006 actually was forced out.

    JB: The picture you paint of the CIA is that it’s pretty much like a liberal college campus. Is that an apt analogy?

    RS: That’s how people in the White House look at CIA headquarters in Langley. They look at it much the same way they look at some radical professors. But this is the hand that the White House has been dealt, and they have to deal with the CIA as it is. That’s why there was a lot of griping about it behind the scenes. The puzzle is that when President Bush is given the opportunity to criticize the CIA, he never does.

    JB: What’s the basic problem with the CIA? They never seem to get the word until the media tells them about it. They were surprised when the Berlin Wall was built and just as surprised when it came down. They blew it on 9-11, on Iraq, and on pretty much everything else. Is it possible for us, given our national leadership, to have the intelligence agency we need to fight the war we’re in?

    RS: In some cases, they were not very good reporters. After all, that is what the clandestine service is in many ways, reporters based in a country trying to get ‘scoops’ on what happens next. But the service has been dominated by careerism, touching all the bases, instead of staying in one place for a while to develop sources and experience.

  38. Don in California

    Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on policial and social issues.
    ——————————-
    Wasn’t Judge Carter also a former marine?

  39. Don in California

    I hit enter too soon.

    I’m beginning to lose my trust in former marines.
    Maybe it’s just me.

  40. Don in California

    I had another thought, could obama be degrading the CIA before they can release info they may have on him and he is trying to cut them off before they can cause him more problems?

  41. Michellle, I read once during the campaign time, that Michelle Obama was disbarred for insurance fraud. I cannot tell you where I read it, as it was many months ago, but I can tell you that it was scrubbed when I went back to check on the source. I believe she was not actually disbarred, but given the option of giving up her law license, or being disbarred.
    She chose to relinquish her license.

  42. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Don in California // January 3, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    I hit enter too soon.

    I’m beginning to lose my trust in former marines.
    Maybe it’s just me.
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    Don….There are veterans who are in the tank for the FRAUD too…..however they are few and far between!

  43. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Don in California // January 3, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    I had another thought, could obama be degrading the CIA before they can release info they may have on him and he is trying to cut them off before they can cause him more problems?
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    Don….that’s a possibility….but like Glenn Beck warns….keep an eye on the Right Hand but watch the left hand closely as well!!

  44. JS – I concur with much of what FA wrote himself, but the CNN portion of his post is all Axelrod talking points. I refuse to be suckered anymore which is why I doubt everything CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and Fox.

    Curious question to both Old Salt, JS and anyone else who wants to weigh in – what about Mr. Duff’s report wreaks of liberal spin? Maybe I missed it and would appreciate your pointing it out to me.

    Personally, I found it to be, for the most part, substantiated by many of the facts we are already aware of. There is certainly new intel such as the jihadist’s father’s profession, but other than his opinion, I’m not sure where he went off into liberal spin. He stated in the end both Bush and Obama…

    Please assist. Like I said, my mind is wide open and appreciate very much your sharing your insight.

  45. Don in California

    Jacqlyn Smith, don’t get me wrong, I fully support active and former marines. It just seems like some of them are going against common sense. I used to take a marines word for anything, now I have to consider before trusting. Just being a former marine doesn’t mean what it used to with me.

  46. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    LDacar // January 3, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Michellle, I read once during the campaign time, that Michelle Obama was disbarred for insurance fraud. I cannot tell you where I read it, as it was many months ago, but I can tell you that it was scrubbed when I went back to check on the source. I believe she was not actually disbarred, but given the option of giving up her law license, or being disbarred.
    She chose to relinquish her license.
    ****************************************

    Yes L Dcar….they are both deceitful FRAUDS…just think what their children will grow up to be like with the two of them giving them guidance!!

  47. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Don in California // January 3, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith, don’t get me wrong, I fully support active and former marines. It just seems like some of them are going against common sense. I used to take a marines word for anything, now I have to consider before trusting. Just being a former marine doesn’t mean what it used to with me.
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    Don…Isn’t that the truth!

  48. Jacqlyn Smith

    d2i // January 3, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    JS – I concur with much of what FA wrote himself, but the CNN portion of his post is all Axelrod talking points. I refuse to be suckered anymore which is why I doubt everything CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and Fox.

    Curious question to both Old Salt, JS and anyone else who wants to weigh in – what about Mr. Duff’s report wreaks of liberal spin? Maybe I missed it and would appreciate your pointing it out to me.

    Personally, I found it to be, for the most part, substantiated by many of the facts we are already aware of. There is certainly new intel such as the jihadist’s father’s profession, but other than his opinion, I’m not sure where he went off into liberal spin. He stated in the end both Bush and Obama…

    Please assist. Like I said, my mind is wide open and appreciate very much your sharing your insight
    *******************************************

    d2i…..I didn’t say it was Liberal spin….just seems like another distraction and I’m not sure this guy is credible….did you read the other posts I made concerning the CIA during the Bush years?? There is some good insight there into the CIA being the political arm of the DemoCRAPS!

  49. D2i,
    I realize that you are simply copy and pasting the above statements, however, they are indeed highly misleading in many cases. For example, blaming the Bush Admin and Bush himself for releasing both Muhamad Attik al-Harbi and Said Ali Shari came from a long line of legal battles fought by the Bush Admin, The U.S. Pentagon, U.S. Military to prevent their releases.

    However, ….wait for it….wait for it….. The Democrats and Liberal Judges and Attorneys that Fought in 2004 for Habeas Corpus for ALL Terrorists and Militants caught on Military battle grounds “Outside of the U.S.A. soil” and “Demanded” their releases if enough evidence was not sufficient in a U.S. District Court (and it wouldn’t be).

    Regardless, as CBS News explained on November 14, as “too dangerous to release but not guilty enough to prosecute in the U.S.,” these prisoners — approximately 125 in total — are caught between the 50 or so prisoners who have been cleared for release but cannot be freed because of international treaties preventing the return of foreign nationals to countries where they face the risk of torture, and the 80 or so regarded as significant enough to face a trial by Military Commission.

    Or otherwise put “they could not be put forward for prosecution “(Thanks Liberal Democrats and voters) because the evidence against them can not be used in court,” as the U.S. Attorney’s representing these terrorists claim that the prisoners against whom suspicions of militant activity or of sympathy for militant activity are largely unjustifiable because they are derived from the torture, coercion or bribery of other prisoners, or from the torture and coercion of the prisoners themselves, and ultimately need to be “Freed”…

    Now who did this? Bush? The Republican Party? I think you know the answer to that and also know What Party and What persons were involved in such. In fact, go back and watch some of Obama’s sympathy speeches during his campaign on this subject. Bush Followed the U.S. Supreme Courts decision, right or wrong, but at least he followed and respected (although despised) it. I doubt that Obama would respect a Supreme Court Decision if it went against him.

    Ps… We are about to release and Free a whole bunch more, and they too will be caught back in the action. Bush and Admin. Warned about this and now the “Chickens have come back to the U.S. to roost”……….

    I’m not surprised, and neither should anyone else.

  50. Don, John Murtha Rep. Pennsylvania, accused fellow Marines of cold blooded murder in Iraq, and at trial they were all proved innocent.
    Once they go to Washington DC for a paycheck they seem to change and become monsters of politics.

  51. More on “What the hell is going on.”

    Don’t know if this has been posted…Sorry for the long post, but it’s worth reading, I feel. Post shows how little we know or don’t know..

    Are we a bunch of dolts or not?

    WAS IT A NEURO MAGNETIC ATTACK ON RUSH LIMBAUGH

    WAS RUSH LIMBAUGH ATTACKED?
    Saturday, January 2, 2010 1:09 PM

    To:
    Dr. Taitz,
    This makes one wonder, especially since Michael Badarnik from the Continental convention had a sudden heart attack and one other guy, name escapes me at the moment. I know Devvy would like us to believe it was what John Ritter had, but, it’s all too coincidental.
    Thank you for all you do.
    Maria
    ———————————————————
    Was Rush Limbaugh Attacked?

    In all seriousness, if Rush Limbaugh was deliberately attacked with a frequency weapon while on Hawaiian vacation?

    Consider the facts in Rush Limbaugh is frequently under physician observation, because people who are in his position have contracts worth millions of dollars and corporate sponsors and legal representatives of insurance companies require these very expensive celebrities to undergo yearly physicals to prove the investment is worth it.

    For the reality, the US military has brought online numbers of new frequency weapons to induce headaches to passiveness in crowd control measures. A low setting producing neurological stunning of the body, high settings kill.

    This is all in the public domain now in riot control measures.
    Nicholas Tesla developed such weaponry known as Scalar or electromagnetic beams. Nikita Kruschev spoke of these weapons being developed in the Soviet Union as of the 1960 period. The same cell phones which produce brain tumors are the same type frequencies which can be made to affect the human body.
    I do not like making a great deal of my life public as I do not care to have anyone believe me or not, as the debate takes up time I do not have to spare to convince people, I could care less about convincing.

    I have though since the Obama benefactors started cementing power in mid 2008, had numerous computer attacks, surveillance on my personal phone conversations in conjunction with certain military bases being use to grab the signals from the air, which is quite illegal, and in the autumn of 2008 by accident in passive sensors, I noted a wiping out of digital broadcast signals for two months in my location. In layman’s terms, something was interfering with the television broadcast signals I monitor, and for two months I was personally not feeling very well.

    As of one Sunday, this interference stopped and the broadcast signals from 5 stations returned to normal, and, I was quite feeling well again within a day.
    This all started within weeks of the census bureau mapping my location with a GPS tag.

    (As a side note, have you noticed the stories growing of people with GPS systems being sent off on wild goose chases and being lost?
    Someone is jacking the GPS system in an apparent attempt to throw off the tracking and weaponry which seems to be tracking certain non Obama Americans.)

    Rush Limbaugh, had a specific hotel room location. As he was not apparently having sex with someone to induce a heart stress period, the physicians all now state there is no evidence of any heart attacks or problems, it leaves the door open to the question if Barack Obama decided to assassinate Rush Limbaugh while in Hawaii?

    It is a simple GPS matter of mapping the hotel room, an image sensor to track Mr. Limbaugh through the walls can be utilized from the street, ocean, air or space. A confined then static weapon would then be aimed at his chest, which can penetrate even a bunker, and the neurological stress would short circuit his healthy heart, so no effects would be present except a DOA.

    Mr. Limbaugh stated he felt this heart attack coming on. Heart attacks do not come on in symptoms, you either have one or you do not. This points to something generated over a period of time to build to a neuro short circuit climax.

    As no virus was found, this was not a virus symptom and the hospital certainly would have found if this was something Mr. Limbaugh, smoked, ate or drank.

    So the question which does indeed need to asked as Mr. Limbaugh was rushed by ambulance to the hospital in serious condition, how he suddenly got better once out of the hotel room?

    The Russian FSB has been poisoning people from London to the Ukraine with Polonium and other poisons. All of this goes one against enemies of the state. Rush Limbaugh is on Obama’s enemies list, and as of late it has been quite lethal for the CIA and Soldiers to be on Mr. Obama’s lists.

    I make no claims in this, but I know what I know in experience and science, and I know what this has a probability of looking like, and this right now has a 60% chance this was a electo frequency attack on Rush Limbaugh, as all the other possibilities have been discredited.

    There are numerous Americans who have felt the scorn of Obama from Rod Blagojevich in legal remedy, John Edwards in being smeared, Elliot Spitzer to being outed, Lawrence Sinclair to being set up, and numerous bloggers who have had their emails tapped and other situations they do not quite comprehend as just flukes.

    The technology is there to do what Rush Limbaugh experienced. It is time that Republicans in Congress started asking the DOD just what is available in Star Wars and if Mr. Limbaugh’s symptoms could be mimicked to create exactly what he suffered from.
    Strange is it not when it is the globalist backed ilk making wild claims about things Americans are doing the internet is alive with accusations, but when it is someone like Rush Limbaugh suffering from what looks like a neuro electric attack, all of these protectors of the world, seem never to notice or write one story or have one program on who just tried to assassinate Rush Hudson Limbaugh.

    Posted by Lame Cherry at 3:40 PM January 1, 2010 and Orly Taitz January 2, 2010.

  52. Jacqlyn Smith………………………………….

    From the time the “PLAME DAME” was outted the Liberals have vowed to get even with the Republicans NO MATTER how much it costs or who it effects, and to HELL with the SECURITY of the US. MMMSSS. Plame is too important. I have a startling piece of data for those who think this. She was little more than a whore, and hadn’t been involved in any JAMES BOND type BULLSHI# for over twenty years THEN. The LIBERALS couldn’t handle this and vowed that they would get even. That is the nature of the moronic LIBERAL mindset. “To hell with national security”,just so long as the SLIMEY LIBERALS are VINDICATED. LOOK closely today ,and you will see that the LIBERAL mindset HAS NOT CHANGED. IT IS STILL “RAM OUR MANURE DOWN THE THROATS” of ALL Americans whether they like it or not. The liberals couldn’t care less about the Security of this Country. This is predominately amongst the most lunatic of all the liberals. They are; BO,NP, HR, ….DURBIN, DODD, LEAHY, SCHUMER,MURTHA, etc. When these MORONS are out of office the liberal left will collapse. Perhaps even the entire Democratic Party.

  53. Don in California

    Ps… We are about to release and Free a whole bunch more, and they too will be caught back in the action.
    ——————————
    If they re-engage our fighting forces, there should be NO prisoners taken. No prisoner, no trial!!

  54. JS – is it just me or do you also see a similar meme being discussed b/w Rowan and RS? Clinton probably blamed Bush Sr for CIA inadequacies, Bush blamed Clinton and now stupid chit is blaming Bush Jr.

    It’s a blame game no matter who is in office and the talking points don’t seem to have changed much. The immature mistake the fraud is making is unlike Bush Jr. he is being the spokesperson rather than using surrogates such as RS. Bush learned early on to let the surrogates do the dirty work while his hands stayed clean. It was smart and a sign of his ability to learn fast as to how the game is played in DC.

    Why do you think Bush gave few interviews. It was b/c his surrogates delivered the message which is why Rove was damned good at what he did. That doesn’t make it right. It just makes him and anyone else that knows how to play the game appear above it all. The Prez should never be the one hurling such crappola. That’s why you have an army of surrogates which Bush, to his credit, used effectively.

  55. Jacqlyn Smith

    William // January 3, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    D2i,
    I realize that you are simply copy and pasting the above statements, however, they are indeed highly misleading in many cases. For example, blaming the Bush Admin and Bush himself for releasing both Muhamad Attik al-Harbi and Said Ali Shari came from a long line of legal battles fought by the Bush Admin, The U.S. Pentagon, U.S. Military to prevent their releases.
    *****************************************

    William…..great information….thank you!

  56. Jacqlyn Smith // January 3, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    #

    LDacar // January 3, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Michellle, I read once during the campaign time, that Michelle Obama was disbarred for insurance fraud. I cannot tell you where I read it, as it was many months ago, but I can tell you that it was scrubbed when I went back to check on the source. I believe she was not actually disbarred, but given the option of giving up her law license, or being disbarred.
    She chose to relinquish her license.

    *******
    What would have happened during the ‘campaign’ if the press had asked either why their license was put on hold???

  57. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    oldsalt77 // January 3, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith………………………………….

    From the time the “PLAME DAME” was outted the Liberals have vowed to get even with the Republicans NO MATTER how much it costs or who it effects, and to HELL with the SECURITY of the US. MMMSSS. Plame is too important. I have a startling piece of data for those who think this. She was little more than a whore, and hadn’t been involved in any JAMES BOND type BULLSHI# for over twenty years THEN. The LIBERALS couldn’t handle this and vowed that they would get even. That is the nature of the moronic LIBERAL mindset. “To hell with national security”,just so long as the SLIMEY LIBERALS are VINDICATED. LOOK closely today ,and you will see that the LIBERAL mindset HAS NOT CHANGED. IT IS STILL “RAM OUR MANURE DOWN THE THROATS” of ALL Americans whether they like it or not. The liberals couldn’t care less about the Security of this Country. This is predominately amongst the most lunatic of all the liberals. They are; BO,NP, HR, ….DURBIN, DODD, LEAHY, SCHUMER,MURTHA, etc. When these MORONS are out of office the liberal left will collapse. Perhaps even the entire Democratic Party.
    ******************************************

    OldSalt…..that’s why I refer to them as DemoCRAPS……or LIBERAL MORONS….they are taking this country in the wrong direction all out of hatred for Bush and anyone who may have supported him at one time or another….they would like to see nothing less than Bush and Cheney both behind bars…..for what I ask???? OH yeah….for keeping us safe the last 8 years!!!! Go figure!

  58. Don in California……………..

    We all know what “take no prisoners” really means, don’t we! It is something that should be STANDARD EQUIPMENT in the US INFANTRY everywhere in the world that we are fighting the BASTARDS OF 9-11.

  59. Don in California

    OldSalt, I like you more and more.

    Just cut the politicians and judges out of the equation completely.

  60. William – thank you for chiming in and added texture to this conversation.

    You are correct. All I did was cut and paste. But, I also found some of the new intel informative and offered it thinking others would as well.

    I am not and never have been a Bush fan. However, I did respect his leadership although I disagreed w/many of his policy decisions.

    That said, I do not support shutting down Gitmo. Never have and never will. I find it abhorrent that the jihadist was read miranda. That’s dispicable and should send major red flags to ALL Americans and our friends abroad. By reading miranda, as you well know, we cannot gain intel which was deliberate as far as I’m concerned.

    I’ve stated on this board more than once that we should re open Alcatraz and I’m deadly serious. But instead of foreign or Muslim jihadists we should lock up the perpetrators of the madness we as citizens are dealing with today. I’d be a very satisfied woman knowing Pelosi was locked up in Alcatraz having to look beyond the Bay to her hometown. Nothing would make me happier.

  61. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    d2i // January 3, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    JS – is it just me or do you also see a similar meme being discussed b/w Rowan and RS? Clinton probably blamed Bush Sr for CIA inadequacies, Bush blamed Clinton and now stupid chit is blaming Bush Jr.

    It’s a blame game no matter who is in office and the talking points don’t seem to have changed much. The immature mistake the fraud is making is unlike Bush Jr. he is being the spokesperson rather than using surrogates such as RS. Bush learned early on to let the surrogates do the dirty work while his hands stayed clean. It was smart and a sign of his ability to learn fast as to how the game is played in DC.

    Why do you think Bush gave few interviews. It was b/c his surrogates delivered the message which is why Rove was damned good at what he did. That doesn’t make it right. It just makes him and anyone else that knows how to play the game appear above it all. The Prez should never be the one hurling such crappola. That’s why you have an army of surrogates which Bush, to his credit, used effectively.
    *****************************************

    d2i…..yes I agree with you on the most part….I think surviving with the LIBERALS who have taken over this government is a game to be played….remember the last two years Bush was under a DemoCRAP majority and things that got done were only if he would sign on to their Liberal BS!!!

  62. magna carta // January 3, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Hi Magna,

    Take a phone break for a minute.

    Just heard from my pal in Houston re: Sheila Jackson Lee.

    She said that SJL is a self-promoter and she doesn’t agree with her as far as the immigration issue (I think we know what that’s all about), but says that she’s been useful in promoting some animal-friendly legislation. She likes SJL; her hubby hates her.

    I told her that there’s a campaign afoot to ‘un-elect’ her.

  63. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JJ // January 3, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // January 3, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    #

    LDacar // January 3, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Michellle, I read once during the campaign time, that Michelle Obama was disbarred for insurance fraud. I cannot tell you where I read it, as it was many months ago, but I can tell you that it was scrubbed when I went back to check on the source. I believe she was not actually disbarred, but given the option of giving up her law license, or being disbarred.
    She chose to relinquish her license.

    *******
    What would have happened during the ‘campaign’ if the press had asked either why their license was put on hold???
    *******************************************

    JJ…..What Press???? Oh….you mean like Chris Matthews>> LOL:)

  64. Jacqlyn Smith

    I’ve stated on this board more than once that we should re open Alcatraz and I’m deadly serious. But instead of foreign or Muslim jihadists we should lock up the perpetrators of the madness we as citizens are dealing with today. I’d be a very satisfied woman knowing Pelosi was locked up in Alcatraz having to look beyond the Bay to her hometown. Nothing would make me happier.
    ****************************************

    d2i….makes much more sense than sending them to some island to bask and play in the sun!!

  65. I need to go make my hub dinner. Will be back and pick up from here if others wish to chime in. I find the conversation informative and insightful. Thank you.

  66. d2i
    please accept my personal invitation to visit my site, it’s iratenation dot com Some great reading there. I was asleep too for a long time

  67. Jacqlyn Smith

    hapnHal // January 3, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    More on “What the hell is going on.”

    Don’t know if this has been posted…Sorry for the long post, but it’s worth reading, I feel. Post shows how little we know or don’t know..

    Are we a bunch of dolts or not?

    WAS IT A NEURO MAGNETIC ATTACK ON RUSH LIMBAUGH

    ***************************************

    Hal…that is one interesting theory!!

  68. If you are looking for any relavency of the JAMES BOND stories that we are having put in front of us you only need to look at the mentality of an OBOT and you will have your answer immediately. They are so mentally compromised that they BELIEVE their own bullsh##, and fantasies that they seem to live for day in day out. Boy are they going to crash when they start paying for all of the manure that is sliding down the poop chute from Congress. They are expecting a FREE LIVING. The alleged US government will happily put them to work……..shovelling the US Government’s BULLSH##

  69. That neuromagnetic post seems like it could have been made up to embarrass those who would buy into it.

  70. Great Sue. Tell your friend that she is a member of the Progressive Caucus…she was on her cell phone during a townhall meeting.She has horrible record responding to constituents. Been in power since 93.She must go….horrible!
    How did your calling go?I left tons of messages. Met a nice lady in Lexington and told her to post here. We spoke about things for about an hour.Called about 200 all told.
    Thanks,
    Sue

  71. FDA dupes INTERPOL to kidnap and deport Cancer cure herbalist from Ecuador!

    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/120323

  72. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    magna carta // January 3, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Great Sue. Tell your friend that she is a member of the Progressive Caucus…she was on her cell phone during a townhall meeting.She has horrible record responding to constituents. Been in power since 93.She must go….horrible!
    How did your calling go?I left tons of messages. Met a nice lady in Lexington and told her to post here. We spoke about things for about an hour.Called about 200 all told.
    Thanks,
    Sue
    ******************************************

    Magna….Great job…..I posted that email here about calling…..I didn’t get to do anything this weekend but I plan to do my part this week sometime!!! Thanks for the update…..BTW….that Shelia Jackson idiot is as big a Liberal Moron as they come….isn’t she the one who spoke at Michael Jackson’s memorial on TV….she is long past needs to go!!!

  73. In my Navy days I briefly visited GITMO. In the 50s it was a hell hole that ships which had completed their yard availability were sent to sharpen up their crew’s fighting profiency. This was usually a 14 day adventure that NOBODY looked forward to. It was called Operational Readiness Inspection, or (ORI for short).When we had a little time off and were at anchor over a weekend, we sometimes went ashore to visit the base “SLOPSHOE” to obtain a little spirits to drown our sorrows. My first visit to GITMO ashore I found myself in disbelief. It was an entity having only about 8 buildings. The prison did not exist then. It had a lot of acreage. It was one of the most desolate places that I have ever been at. It is TAILOR MADE, for a looney ARAB tank. There is absolutely no reason why it should be closed. Where the hell would a prisoner escape to? HAVANA ? HA-HA-HA that too is a hell hole. Made that way by the present all knowledgeable FIDEL. Isn’t that part of the word INFIDEL. That is what the ISLAMIC JIHADis want to kill. Good God all we need to do is turn the 90 killers loose in HAVANA and the first person they would get would probably be FIDEL. They would think that FIDEL is somehow an INFIDEL. BYE BYE FIDEL.

  74. magna carta // January 3, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Hi Magna,

    Yup, I told her about the cell phone thing and how this year will be the year of reckoning for the incumbents. I think that since my pal previously worked for a large animal shelter in the area, she tends to key in on who supports and who doesn’t support animal legislation. I gave her this blog addy.

    Calling was mostly messages, as well-it’s a holiday weekend. Those Coakley supporters have a few screws loose, but I did get some positives, which was good. I’ve been telling people that a vote for Coakley is like a vote for Gov. Cadillac Deval Patrick (Barky’s pal), who’s screwed up this already screwed up state royally!

    As you know, Lexington is where it all began, and Scott will be right next door in Concord tomorrow night. Will see if I can make it down; I have to be in court tomorrow.

  75. http://www.wnd.com articles daily
    http://www.repubx.com

    http://www.peoplespassions.org great info

    http://www.theobamafile.com pictures
    http://www.larrysinclair.com running for Congress
    read his tell all book eye-opener!!

  76. oldsalt77 @ 4:43 pm
    I live in Florida now, never knew anyone that worked for the Trib, but Carol Marin has been working the beat for ever.
    http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/index.html
    Carol Marin:
    Sunday, January 3, 2010
    Political brawl brewing on Southwest Side
    The primary is only a month away. Bring your brass knuckles if you happen to live on the Southwest Side.
    Hmmmm near Obama turf I wonder what this might mean. Yes, they still do use brass knuckles.

  77. oldsalt77 @ 5:01 pm
    The only Plains Dealer I ever heard of was the Cleveland Plains Dealer.
    Chicago Sun Times
    Chicago Tribune
    The old familiars but out in the suburbs each town had its own little newspaper. Local, with a spalsh of Chicago and international. The hillbuzz boys are in the belly of the beast and they know a lot-due to their professions, party planners, wait staff, bartenders-etc.
    Catholic New World (English)
    Catolico (English)
    Chicago Reader (English)
    Chicago Standard News (English)
    Chicago Sun Times (English)
    Chicago Tribune (English)
    Crain’s Chicago Business (English)
    Daily Southtown (English)
    Edgebrook Times Review (English)
    Edison-Norwood Times Review (English)
    Extra (Spanish, English)
    Hoy (English)
    Inside (English)
    La Raza (Spanish)
    Lawndale (Spanish)
    New City Chicago (English)
    Red Eye (English)
    Red Streak (English)
    South Suburban Standard (English)
    Windy City Word (English)

  78. Sandy….7:07pm

    Neuro-magnetic waves?

    Blog info from Lame Cherries site, don’t know. Orly’s comments lend credibility! Got to look outside the box… wait and see.

    Better yet, ask Rush when he gets back.

  79. SueK-Kim 5:05 5:09 sorry guys didn’t mean to scare you with Madame Michele’s charmingly lovely face.

  80. Michelle // January 3, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Michelle, that was worse than one of twe’s best!

    She looks absolutely primate-ive in that picture…

  81. Linda from NY

    Naked Aggression Nude Obama Policy

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/01/naked-aggression-nude-obama-policy.html

    Barf Alert…pp pix

  82. oldsalt77-if I was an investigative reporter/journalist I would go on a fact finding mission to Cook County Jail. For whatever reason the guys in that jail know everything that is going on. We never knew how they stayed up to date but they do. Some would be rumors, some would be get out of jail “free” card, all the various “stuff”, but some of it is good “stuff”. You would have to glean the good from the bad but it could take a person in a direction. From the cops that used to have to go there all I know it is a bad bad place, so bad the guys could not even talk about it. I have no idea what they saw.
    Cook County Jail
    based on 1 review
    Category: Public Services & Government [Edit]
    Neighborhood: Little Village
    2700 S California Ave
    (between 26th St & 28 St)
    Chicago, IL 60608
    1 review for Cook County Jail
    Frank G.
    Chicago, IL
    3/12/2009 I have had multiple experiences at the “county hotel”. Ranging from 2-35 days. More often for silly grievances such as driving without license and insurance, posession, and pubilic drinking, etc. If you’ve ever said to yourself “I wonder what it is like to be handled like a peice of meat in the stockyard?” First they cart a paddy wagon full of then to the county court house. Then you’re actually herded into large open holding pens. THen you’re marked with bright brilliant colors on your forearm and upper arm. Just like cattle! Given a ration of bologna and bread with a packet of mustard( this is the only part that really differs from a slaughter house because i heard they fatten the beef up a little bit before they cut their heads off).
    For most misdemeanors you’re given either minimum or medium security. It’s a little safer in there than in maxium security, obviously. There several things you will come to understand though. #1 Street gangs really run Chicago. #2 If you’re not in a street gang you’re not going to have the best of time there. Gangs dictate where you sleep, where you eat, what you watch on the television, what you do during yard breaks, when you use the phone, etc. I am fortunate to be large enough to get past most of the gang bang knucklhead sh!t, but even the biggest guy is no match for a group of street gangs in county jail. Keep to yourself, but remember this don’t let anyone punk you. It is a sure sign of weakness and they’ll move in. They’re like dogs oonce they smell fear, they go crazy but, stand your ground and you won’t run into many problems.
    Once I was in max security for awhile that sucked. It’s bad because while you’re case may not actually carry a lengthy prison stay, someone else might be looking at going away for along time, and had nothing to lose. I was lucky to have the charges dropped so I didn’t have to stay for that long. If you go here you’re probably already in deep sh!t. You should worry about a good lawyer at that point.
    Bottom line is this is the worst by far, it’s even worse than state prison. The only caviat is you can smoke cigarettes in there.
    Lesson learned; Keep the license clean, have insurance, drink out of sight of police, don’t start fights, or finish them.

  83. Linda from NY

    The Monkey in Obama’s Pants Problem

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/01/monkey-in-obamas-pants-problem.html

    Barf Alert…another pp pix

  84. Linda from NY // January 3, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Hi Linda,

    Other than having to look at the manboobs, that was a very powerful piece by Mr. Cherry.

  85. The Obama’s two characters you would not want to meet in a dark alley.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2298560/posts
    Michelle Obama’s Patient-Dumping Scheme
    American Thinker ^ | March 02, 2009 | David Catron
    Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:27:33 PM by JosephSmithNAW
    The First Lady helped create a notorious program that dumped poor patients on community hospitals, yet the national media ignore the story. Imagine if her husband were a Republican.
    The University of Chicago Medical Center has received a good deal of justly opprobrious press over its policy of “redirecting” low-income patients to community hospitals while reserving its own beds for well-heeled patients requiring highly profitable procedures. Substantial coverage was given to a recent indictment of the program by the American College of Emergency Physicians. ACEP’s president, Dr. Nick Jouriles, released a statement suggesting that the initiative comes “dangerously close to ‘patient dumping,’ a practice made illegal by the Emergency Medical Labor and Treatment Act, and reflected an effort to ‘cherry pick’ wealthy patients over poor.”
    Oddly absent from most of the unflattering press coverage of UCMC’s patient-dumping scheme is any mention of the role our new First Lady played in devising the program. A laudable exception has been the Chicago Sun-Times, which reported last August that “Michelle Obama — currently on unpaid leave from her $317,000-a-year job as a vice president of the prestigious hospital — helped create the program.”
    On the rare occasions when other “news” media have bothered to connect the Urban Health Initiative to its glamorous creator, they have attempted to whitewash this tawdry program. Typical of such disingenuous coverage was a story in the Washington Post, which described it as “an innovative program to steer the patients to existing neighborhood clinics.”

  86. Linda from NY

    SueK:

    How ya doing? Pretty busy gal making all those phone calls for your man in MA, you are. Nice of Magna to give you a hand with the phone calls, too…what a friend you have in Texas!

    Agree…once you get past the manboobs, the article is intriguing…sent a third article from Mr. Cherry, but it got stuck in moderation [?] so please read the one entitled “Monkey in Obama’s Pants Problem.” It’s another eye-opener. Mr. Cherry is certainly a gifted analyst.

    Happy Night…Linda

  87. Linda from NY
  88. Linda from NY

    Newark Liberty Airport Reportedly in Lockdown Over Security Breach

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420301/posts

  89. Linda from NY

    Obama Adviser: No Smoking Gun in Airline Bomb Plot (Just a smoking bomb in seat 19A over Detroit)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2419951/posts

  90. Linda from NY

    Your Legal Right To Redeem Your Money Market Account Has Been Denied

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420120/posts

  91. Linda from NY

    SueK:

    Two of my comments are in moderation so I will not repeat what is in them…just what I said to you.

    “How ya doing? Pretty busy gal making all those phone calls for your man in MA, you are. Nice of Magna to give you a hand with the phone calls, too…what a friend you have in Texas!”

    Happy Night…Linda

  92. Extortion, Embezzlement, Patient Dumping, Disbarred
    Quite a list of achievements for a few year long career.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2298560/posts
    Michelle’s patient dumping scheme

    http://ow.ly/SkmE
    Michelle Bag Lady for Daley

    Disbarred
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/12/wtf-michelle-ob.html

    the FBI “specifically named individual” in the Blagojevich case
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/09/michelle-obama-is-the-specifically-named-individual-on-page-64-of-the-affidavit-submitted-by-fbi/

  93. Linda from NY

    Hurt proposes five debates for 5th District ( Tea party debates!!! )

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420317/posts

  94. Linda from NY

    George Soros group attacking MassResistance over ‘safe schools’ czar research

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420308/posts

  95. Linda from NY

    Michelle: This one’s for you!

    People Who Identify Themselves As Democrats At Lowest Level In 7 Years

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420297/posts

  96. Linda from NY // January 3, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Yup, Linda-we only have a few weeks until 1/19. This can’t be a long campaign due to the short lead time, so we have to make every second (and phone number dialed) count. And I doooo hate phones!

    I had to giggle-poor Magna in TX with that spiffy accent trying to talk to people who paak caahs in Haavad Yaad. But, God bless her for doing this!

    I owe her a BBQ when I’m down her way :).

  97. Sue,
    If you get over to Concord and meet him…you will need to file a report over at HillBuzz. They are really pumping out the cheerleader reports over there.Ha!

  98. Linda from NY

    SueK:

    It sure appears Martha thinks she is entitled to the position. Am praying Scott gives her a run for her stolen money.

    While I wish the ladies all the best, I have no sympathy for those kool-aid drinking broads who support pp’s agenda.

    Happy Night…Linda

  99. Linda from NY

    Question of the Day: What happens socially and politically if “the first black president” remains an enormous failure?

    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/01/03/question-of-the-day-what-happens-socially-and-politically-if-the-first-black-president-remains-an-enormous-failure/

  100. Linda from NY

    Are you going to get off your butt and help elect Hottie McAwesome to the Senate, or what?

    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/01/03/are-you-going-to-get-off-your-butt-and-help-elect-hottie-mcawesome-to-the-senate-or-what/

  101. Linda from NY

    Liberals go after pollster Rasmussen

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/01/liberals_go_after_pollster_ras.html

    “When you don’t like the message – shoot the messenger.”

  102. Linda from NY

    SueK:

    What?

    France wants to sell millions of surplus flu shots

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420273/posts

  103. magna carta // January 3, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Will do, Magna.

    Not sure I can get down there, but will try.

    Those Hillbuzz guys are pretty funny!

  104. Linda from NY // January 3, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Oh, yes, Linda, she does think she’s entitled! Hey, I’m behind the women, too, but not someone like her.

    She’s Barky’s pup, that’s for sure!

  105. Linda from NY

    America Rising Video: An Open Letter to Democrats

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420268/posts

    Excellent vid…save before it is scrubbed, please!

  106. Lieberals Voted for Hope
    Got a Jihad Commie Dope

  107. Linda from NY // January 3, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Linda, I’m not surprised! People (regardless of the country) didn’t buy into the hype; I don’t believe for a minute that the surplus is due to the two-shot mandate…the people just didn’t fall for it. GOOD!!!! 5 million vaccinated out of a population of 65 million tells you something.

    I can tell you that MA H1N1 statistics are way down. It has passed. At some point, it may come back as seasonal flu (remember we were talking a while ago about how seasonal flus are mostly of the H1N1 strain?) but this scary swine flu was a bust, just as a different swine strain was in 1976.

    Now, this article is saying that there were 198 fatalities from H1N1 in France. In a country that size with a large population, is 198 a ‘pandemic?’ Hardly. More people die from the common cold every year.

    And you’ll notice that GlaxoSmithKlein, Novartis, and out old friends, Baxter, were among the manufacturers. Read that as Squalene and Thimerosal.

    I would flush these shots down the hopper, where they belong! I really don’t think they’ll have many takers.

    Thanks for the heads-up!

  108. Linda from NY

    Peter:

    Thanks…they are already having trouble with YouTube…the Obots are busy scrubbing bubbles!

    Happy Night…Linda

  109. Don in California

    Linda from NY // January 3, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Iran denies entry to Sen. Kerry
    ———————–
    That just goes to show you that Iran does have some smarts!!

  110. Linda from NY

    “Jihad For Dummies”: Shaykh Abdullah al-Faisal

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420253/posts

  111. Linda from NY

    Jacqlyn: This one’s for you!

    New 2012 Primary Projections, and Why “Palin wins FL Primary”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420245/posts

  112. Linda from NY

    Courts Rule Governors Can’t Cut Spending

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420243/posts

  113. Linda from NY

    Jim Zogby: Aftermath of Flight 253

    The Gulf Daily News ^ | January 4, 2009 | Dr. James J. Zogby, President, Arab American Institute

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420244/posts

    Another pp sympathizer…

  114. Linda from NY

    Penetration Even At The Pentagon: Muslim Spies Setting Muslim Policy

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420240/posts

  115. News Flash……

    Action Alert: Forcing Glen Becks Hand

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420333/posts

    On Monday Jan. 4, 2010 starting at 9am (EST) call Glen Beck for Operation “Flood IT”

    CALL (888)-727-2325

    Ask, “why is FOX not covering Obama’s illegal Presidency?”

    “Where are your papers Mr. Obama?”

  116. Linda from NY

    Happy New Year From the New Caliphate!

    The Last Crusade ^ | Jan. 2, 2010 | The Last Crusade

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420228/posts

    Oh, No!

  117. Jacqlyn Smith

    I just found this information over at….

    http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/

    Let’s hope they move on this and soon!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    By JB Williams
    Someone in the Monroe County Court House has been feeding false information to local news reporters in Monroe County Tennessee, leaving an interested public confused about the current status of the Treason Case filed by Ret. Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick III, against President Barack Hussein Obama.
    Here are the real facts as they currently exist –

    *
    Fitzpatrick appeared before a four person grand jury panel on December 1, 2009, not before the full grand jury, which is why there is no mention of the case in grand jury documents at this point.
    *
    Fitzpatrick was only permitted to present evidence of obstruction against former grand jury foremen Gary Pettway and others. The evidence in the Treason Case against Obama has yet to be presented to the Monroe County grand jury.
    *
    The Monroe County grand jury ended its term shortly after Fitzpatrick’s appearance before the four person panel, leaving the cases in the hands of a newly convened grand jury for 2010.
    *
    Unlike the 2009 grand jury, which had a certain potential for conflicts of interest concerning charges against former foreman Pettway, the newly convened jury should be free from such conflicts and freshly aware of their oath.
    *
    As of today, Fitzpatrick has received no updates on the status of his cases before the Monroe County grand jury.
    *
    All other related public reports offered by local Monroe County news reporters are false and misleading.

    So, the charge of Treason against Obama still stands as filed before the Monroe County grand jury, which has yet to schedule any hearing of evidence on the matter. The charges of obstruction against Pettway and other Monroe County officials also remain pending as of this writing.
    The new 2010 Monroe County grand jury is due to convene in January and Fitzpatrick is unclear as to the intentions of the new grand jury concerning his pending charges. At present, it is assumed that the newly seated jury will take up all cases left pending from the previous jury.
    But Fitzpatrick is prepared to re-file all charges with the new jury if need be.
    Ongoing updates will be posted at Fitzpatrick’s blog, The JAG HUNTER.

  118. Jacqlyn Smith

    This too was at the Jag Hunters Blog…

    TONY CAPUTO SHARES THESE IMPORTANT OBSERVATIONS…
    Saturday, 2 January 2010

    Incredible isn’t it?

    REMARKABLE, THAT WITHIN A FEW DAYS, THE PRESS CAN FIND EVERY WOMAN WITH WHOM TIGER HAS EVER HAD AN AFFAIR; WITH PHOTOS, TEXT MESSAGES, RECORDED PHONE CALLS ETC. THEY KNOW NOT ONLY THE CAUSE OF THE FAMILY FIGHT, BUT EVEN KNOW IT WAS A WEDGE FROM HIS GOLF BAG THAT HIS WIFE WAS USING FOR BREAKING OUT THE WINDOWS IN THE ESCALADE.. NOT ONLY THAT, THEY KNOW WHICH WEDGE!

    THIS IS THE SAME PRESS (OR IS IT?) THAT CANNOT LOCATE OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR ANY OF HIS PAPERS WHILE IN COLLEGE… REMARKABLE…TRULY REMARKABLE!

    ANY POLITICIAN OR NEWS MEDIA COVERING UP THE TRUE BIRTH PLACE OF OBAMA SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND TRIED FOR TREASON!

  119. Bilderberg Meeting, 2009 Greece, Members List – Media Black Out and Riots – PLEASE SPREAD THIS!

    Members List:

    Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
    Queen Sofía of Spain
    Prins Filip Belgian Prince
    Étienne Davignon, Belgium
    Josef Ackermann, Germany
    Keith B. Alexander, Director of the NSA, USA
    Roger Altman, USA
    Takis Arapoglou, National Bank of Greece, Greece
    Ali Babacan, Turkey
    Balsemão, Francisco Pinto, Portugal
    Nicolas Baverez, France
    Franco Bernabè, Italy
    Xavier Bertrand. France
    Bildt, Carl, Sweden
    Jan Björklund, Minister for Education, Sweden
    Christoph Blocher, Switzerland
    Alexandre Bompard, France, (europe 1 ( french radio ))
    Ana Botín (President of Santander Bank Group Emilio Botín´s daughter), Spain.
    Henri de Castries, AXA, France
    Juan Luis Cebrián, (PRISA Group of Media, CEO), Spain.
    W. Edmund Clark, TD Bank Financial Group, Canada
    Kenneth Clark, ΤD Βank Financial Group, Great Britain
    Luc Coene, National Bank of Belgium, Belgium
    Richard Dearlove, ex head MI6, Great Britain
    Mario Draghi, Βanca d΄Ιtalia, Italy
    Eldrup, Anders, Denmark
    Elkann, John, Fiat SPA, Italy
    Enders Thomas, CEO Airbus, Germany
    José (Manuel) Entrecanales (Acciona Group, Construction and infrastructures), Spain.
    Isidro Fainé Casas (President of Caixa “Bank” and SEAT Adviser), Spain.
    Niall Ferguson, Harvard Business School, USA
    Timothy Geithner, USA, Secretary of the Treasury]
    Dermot Gleeson, Ireland
    Donald E. Graham Washington Ρost Company
    Halberstadt, Victor, Professor of Economics, Leiden University, Netherlands
    Ernst Hirsch Ballin, Netherlands
    Richard Holbrooke, USA
    Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, NATO Secretary General, Netherlands
    James L. Jones, National Security Advisor, USA
    Vernon Jordan, USA
    Robert Kagan, USA
    Jyrki Katainen, Minister of Finance, Finland
    John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard, Great Britain
    Mustafa Koç, Turkey
    Roland Koch, Germany
    Sami Cohen, Journalist, Turkey
    Henry Kravis, USA
    Marie-Josée Kravis, USA
    Neelie Kroes, European Commissioner for Competition. Netherlands
    Odysseas Kyriakopoulos, S&B Group, Greece
    Manuela Ferreira Leite, Portugal
    Bernardino León, Spain
    Jessica Mathews, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, USA
    Philippe Maystadt, European Investment Bank, Belgium
    Frank McKenna, ΤD Βank Financial Group, Canada
    John Micklethwait, The Economist, Great Britain
    Thierry de Montbrial, Institut français des relations internationales (IFRI), France
    Mario Monti, Bocconi University, Milan, Italy
    Miguel Ángel Moratinos, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Spain
    Craig Mundie, Microsoft, USA
    Egil Myklebust, SAS Group, Norway
    Matthias Nass, Die Zeit, Germany
    Denis Oliven, Le Νouvel Οbservateur, France
    Frederic Oudea, Societe Generale, France
    Cem Özdemir, Alliance ’90/The Greens, Germany
    Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa, Italy
    Papalexopoulos, Dimitris, CEO, Titan Cement Co. S.A., Greece
    Richard Perle, Αmerican Εnterprise Ιnstitute, USA
    David Petraeus, Commander, U.S. Central Command, USA
    Manuel Pinho, Minister of Economy and Innovation, Portugal
    Robert Prichard, Τorstar Corporation, Canada
    Romano Prodi, ex Prime Minister, Italy
    Heather Reisman, Ιndigo Βooks & Μusic Ιnc., Canada
    Eivind Reiten, Norway (Chairman BD Norske Skog, former CEO Norsk Hydro)
    Michael Ringier, Czech Republic
    David Rockefeller, USA
    Dennis Ross, USA]
    Barnett Rubin, USA
    Alberto Ruiz-Gallardón ?, Mayor of Madrid, Spain
    Suzan Sabancı Dinçer, Turkey
    Indira Samarasekera, President of the University of Alberta, Canada
    Rudolf Scholten, Social Democratic Party, Austria
    Jürgen Steb, Germany
    Pedro Solbes, Spain
    Sampatzi Saraz, Turkey (banker)
    Sanata Seketa, Canada (University of Canada)
    Lawrence Summers, USA
    Peter Sutherland, Ireland
    Martin Taylor, Barclays Bank, Great Britain
    Peter Thiel, USA
    Agan Ourgkout, Turkey
    Matti Vanhanen, Prime Minister, Finland
    Daniel Vasella, Novartis AG, Switzerland
    Jeroen van der Veer, CEO Royal Dutch Shell, Netherlands
    Guy Verhofstadt, ex Prime Minister, Belgium
    Paul Volcker, USA
    Jacob Wallenberg, Sweden
    Marcus Wallenberg, Sweden
    Nout Wellink, the Netherlands
    Vissers Hans, Netherlands
    Martin Wolf, Financial Τimes, Great Britain
    James Wolfensohn, USA
    Paul Wolfowitz, USA
    Fareed Zakaria, USA – Newsweek
    Robert Zoellick, World Bank, USA
    Dora Bakoyannis, Minister for Foreign Affairs, Greece
    Anna Diamantopoulou, Greece
    Yannis Papathanasiou, Minister for Economy and Finance, Greece
    Georgios Alogoskoufis, Greece,
    George David, Coca-Cola 3E, Greece

    List – http://www.scribd.com/doc/15684752/Bilderberg-Meeting-2009-Greece-Complete-Members-List

  120. You decide

    Should U.S. organize an offensive in Yemen in response to Al Qaeda threats?

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/01/03/decide-engage-yemen-offensive/

  121. Spy chiefs turn on President Obama after seven CIA agents are slaughtered in Afghanistan

    Barack Obama was accused of double standards yesterday in his treatment of the CIA.

    The President paid tribute to secret agents after seven of them were killed by a suicide bomber in Afghanistan.

    In a statement, he said the CIA had been ‘tested as never before’ and that agents had ‘served on the front lines in directly confronting the dangers of the 21st century’.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1239941/Spy-chiefs-turn-President-Obama-seven-CIA-agents-slaughtered-Afghanistan.html#ixzz0bcOM0do5

    read more here – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1239941/Spy-chiefs-turn-President-Obama-seven-CIA-agents-slaughtered-Afghanistan.html#ixzz0baVSfFMI

  122. Video: Worst Political Scandal Of 2009? “Eric Holder Investigating Torture” John McLaughlin

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/id.4214/blog_detail.asp

  123. Good luck w/Glenn Beck…Fox news has been reporting Obama was spending time at his birth place, they repeated it over and over and had it scrolling in writing besides.

  124. Wayne Allyn Root was on Bill Cunningham’s radio show tonight.

    Podcast of WAR segment:

    http://tinyurl.com/ydedhwx

    =======================

    From September 5, 2008:

    ———

    “Matt Welch: So tell us what we should know about Barack Obama that we don’t?

    Wayne Allyn Root: I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever!”

    http://reason.com/archives/2008/09/05/wayne-allyn-roots-million-doll

    ———

    “Welch: Were you the exact same class?

    Root: Class of ’83 political science, pre-law Columbia University. You don’t get more exact than that. Never met him in my life, don’t know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, 20th reunion, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! Who was he, and five years ago, nobody even knew who he was.

    Other guy: Did he even show up to the reunion?

    Root: I don’t know! I didn’t know him. I don’t think anybody knew him. But I know that the guy who writes the class notes, who’s kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Is that not strange? It’s very strange.”

    http://reason.com/archives/2008/09/05/wayne-allyn-roots-million-doll/1

  125. Jacqlyn Smith

    I just received the following information in an email tonight……

    The Patriotic Resistance is pleased to announce its support of the First National Conservative Symposium. Our own National Coordinator, Darla, will be among the speakers. This is an exciting and educational event designed for activists and leadership within the conservative movement. Event details can be found here.

    Registration for this exciting event is available online.

    Here is a brief summary of the event:

    SAN ANTONIO, Dec. 14, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Tea Party Support is pleased to announce

    our keynote speakers and emcee at the first National Conservative Symposium, scheduled for Friday,

    January 22nd, 2010 through Sunday, January 24th, 2010 at the Hyatt Regency Hill Country Resort and

    Spa in San Antonio, Texas. Speaking will be former Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin; radio and TV host Sean Hannity; conservative blogger and TV commentator Michelle Malkin; and radio host and TV commentator Laura Ingraham. Best selling author and political pundit Kevin Jackson, will emcee the event.

    The National Conservative Symposium, hosted by Tea Party Support, will bring together conservative

    grass roots leaders and community organizers from across America at one of the nation’s premiere

    resorts for a weekend of intense discussion, education and training. The objective of the Symposium is

    to inspire and empower conservative activists to take back their political party and to take the country

    back to constitutional governance and fiscal responsibility by organizing for political action in their

    local communities and then projecting their voice and actions all the way to Washington, D.C.

    Visit Patriotic Resistance at: http://www.resistnet.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network

  126. John Charlton

    PETITION HI GOVT TO RELEASE OBAMA’S VITAL RECORDS!

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/04/hawaii-petition-campaign-launched/

    Petition Campaign launced today, Jan. 4th…

    Spread the word & sign on!

  127. HELP PLEASE….a CALL TO ACTION.

    Everyone e-mail and Call: Hannity, Rush, Glenn Beck, etc. lets get this Video on TV and amke it go Viral like the Thomas Paine Video.

  128. Has anyone been on this site?

    http://www.myamericaagain.org/

    AmericaAgain! is a citizen mechanism whose purposes are: a) We The People exercising our right of self-government by enforcing the U.S. Constitution in the courts of the sovereign States as has always been our duty; b) drafting and enacting reform legislation to serve the People, not corporate or socialist interests; and c) lawfully spreading Tax Honesty to shrink federal government by the power of the purse.

    See the tab marked “Tactical Plan” for a description of the AmericaAgain! Indictment Engine™, Legislative Projects, and AmericaAgain! Tax Honesty Project™.

  129. More from this site-looks interesting!
    http://www.myamericaagain.org/faqs

    Q: Why create another competitor for the Tea Party movement, Ron Paul Revolution, et al?
    A: The Tea Party movement, like the Vietnam-era antiwar protests, is a short-term historical awakening, not long-term self-government. Free citizens and employers don’t march with posters to get their employees to stop violating laws! We must now stop protesting and start putting criminals behind bars. To take our Constitution back, we must enforce it. Demonstrations are for powerless populations, not free Americans.

    Q: The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land; can’t federal courts shut us down?
    A: No. The Constitution stipulates in Article III that the U.S. Supreme Court has original jurisdiction only over any case in which a State is a party. In all AmericaAgain! cases, plaintiffs and defendants will be citizens of the same state. Defendants collude with cronies in Congress to funnel billions of hard-earned dollars annually from the people of their state to Washington D.C., then doling out some of this cash to your state legislature, county, and city, which trains those politicians to be corrupt, too. We can defeat corruption with rule of law; the U.S. Supreme Court only has jurisdiction when a State is a party; inferior federal courts are even less of a factor…creatures of our creature Congress according to Art III, Sec 1.

    Q: But the Constitution Article I, Section 6 gives Congress immunity against prosecution!
    A: False; they’re our representatives in Congress, not banana republic dictators, Chicago mafia dons, or Mexican drug lords. That clause was modeled directly on the English Bill of Rights of 1689, to protect freedom of speech and debate in Parliament. The clause merely says, “They shall in all cases except treason, felony, and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either house, they shall not be questioned in any other place.” That’s not immunity for criminals.

  130. Thanks for the latest info. God Bless America.

  131. Don in California

    Good night all and God Bless the USA!!

  132. Some comments from:

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org

    “Mike // Jan 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    To say o-b-a-m-a, is essentially BLASPHAMY. This is an individual that has a ongoing voting record for abortions and actually killing of newborns. soetoro/usurper are more accurate. Courts have sealed his records in 04&06. The usurpers agenda is very simple, we will do what we want, and let the people fight it in court. ALL of congress is guilty, and the judicial system in this hijacked backward as* country is a fullfledged JOKE. ALL that were INCAPABLE of seeing the red flags ( with a little yellow sickle in the upper left corner) last year either have buyer’s remorse, or are just WAY TOO stupid to ever understand. These are the same people who WORK for someone else and have no concept generating wealth. They will all burn in hell, and is most likely were retribution will take place. My country is filled with cowards.”

    ####

    “jtx // Jan 4, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Two for the road to Serfdom (with Obama)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGG8tIJNMY

    ####

    GOD wants people to be free and willing to believe and follow & obey GOD on earth.

  133. Off topic…I just posted this on my FaceBook pageI am real tired of everyone talking about the past decade and the new decade. Where did these sheeple go to school? No matter how you look at it 01/01/2010 is the begining of the tenth year from the year 2000. So even if we concede the fact that time did not begin with the year “0”, there is still no way we have completed 10 years. That is the number of years IN a decade….

    It is just another example of how the media can drive falsehoods into something that seems to be true…..

  134. Linda from NY

    Good Morning All!

    Some good info to share with friends and family…

    Be Cautious About Giving Info to Census Workers

    With the U.S. Census process beginning, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) advises people to be cooperative, but cautious, so as not to become a victim of fraud or identity theft. The first phase of the 2010 U.S. Census is under way as workers have begun verifying the addresses of households across the country. Eventually, more than 140,000 U.S. Census workers will count every person in the United States and will gather information about every person living at each address including name, age, gender, race, and other relevant data.

    The big question is – how do you tell the difference between a U.S. Census worker and a con artist? BBB offers the following advice:

    If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag, and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. However, you should never invite anyone you don’t know into your home.

    Census workers are currently only knocking on doors to verify address information. Do not give your Social Security number, credit card or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. Census.

    REMEMBER, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ASK, YOU REALLY ONLY NEED TO TELL THEM HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE AT YOUR ADDRESS.

    While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as a salary range, YOU DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION. The Census Bureau will not ask for Social Security, bank account, or credit card numbers, nor will employees solicit donations. Any one asking for that information is NOT with the Census Bureau.

    AND REMEMBER, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS DECIDED NOT TO WORK WITH ACORN ON GATHERING THIS INFORMATION.. No Acorn worker should approach you saying he/she is with the Census Bureau.

    Eventually, Census workers may contact you by telephone, mail, or in person at home. However, the Census Bureau will not contact you by Email, so be on the lookout for Email scams impersonating the Census.

    Never click on a link or open any attachments in an Email that are supposedly from the U.S. Census Bureau.

    PLEASE SHARE THIS INFO WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS..

  135. citizenwells

    ***************************************************
    * Michelle Obama’s comments & background as it relates to BO
    * and their agenda is fair game. If you must comment about what
    * she wears, well, ok, although I believe it hurts rather than helps.
    * Her body shape, attributes, etc are off limits.
    * She can help her behaviour. She can’t help what God gave her.
    * I do not wish to insult her appearance or be associated with
    * doing that. Wells
    **************************************************

  136. Beck is scolding birthers

  137. They are pushing the same old arguments and making fun ……..birth announcement…….Hillary would have known…..Men in Black involved…………….CLINTON MACHINE would have found it so if they did there was a reason …..maybe because Hillary really wanted to be Secretary of State and not president…..

    Thinks we are being duped or or working FOR Obama.

  138. Jacqlyn Smith

    Beck is talking about birthers…he and the others are making fun…..saying if the Clintons couldn’t get their hands on the birth certificate then I doubt he wasn’t born here….and he didn’t plant a story in the newspaper…..how naive are these idiots????

  139. He just pissed off an enormous chunk of his listenership……

  140. Why doesn’t he produce the long form?

    Beck: Because we look stupid following this …..and he is getting us to discredit ourselves

  141. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Sandy // January 4, 2010 at 9:40 am

    He just pissed off an enormous chunk of his listenership……
    ********************************************

    Sandy….he is certainly pissing me off!!!

  142. Beck>> Do you think if this whole thing is true that going after his NBC is the fastest way to get him out? (he has a minor point here….but I am still ANGRY)

  143. Jacqlyn Smith

    Start calling Beck folks….1-888-727-2325

  144. Beck things the bigger issue it the unconstitutional things going on in the administration that will bring him down quicker and the whole birther thing distracts and works for the Obama camp like Megan Fox does on teenage boys.

  145. Jacqlyn Smith

    Beck….Let’s go after the things provable….like lets see a valid birth record!!!!DUH!!!
    He is really making me mad!!!

    Why don’t you take a flying leap Beck……without a legal POTUS we have NO Constitution….what a bunch of idiots!!

  146. Wow…he did spend an entire segment on it. His basic argument is that even if it were true…..it would take too long and we need to concentrate on the unconstitutional things happening now….czars….healthcare…..etc

    I imagine he will feel a backlash on that segment and just MAY have to revisit it as a result….

  147. Calling now

  148. If you want to follow the Haskell family saga firsthand here is their personal link.

    http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/

  149. Jacqlyn Smith

    Sandy I have been calling for 20 minutes…still busy!

  150. Patriot Dreamer

    Glenn Beck painted all “birthers” with a broad brush. Basically boiled it down to where BO was born. Said nothing about all of the other issues (dual allegiances; jbjd’s research, etc.) Not happy with that segment.

  151. Jacqlyn Smith

    If I get through I am going to ask why he won’t have Mario Apuzzo and Charles Kerchner on his show…..they are very credible!!

  152. I am hoping the backlash will force his hand….but it might not…..okay.

    Obviously Beck has been compromised for one reason or another on this issue. So what?

    I will not stop listening to him. Why? Because he does fight more of the dirty battles imho than any other talk show host. He is doing a lot in exposing the ugly truth in Washington.

    He will just not be the vehicle for the NBC issue….okay…I do not agree with that, but I thank him for the rest of what he is doing….

    The truth will not be stopped by one person’s unwillingness to go after it.

  153. Patriot.
    I just sent Beck an email and tried calling (ha ha).
    I would like to get the transcript/recording of audio.
    I will let Beck have it.

  154. Although….I have to say…..the ridiculing of such a large portion of his audience was not wise on his part at ALL

  155. Jacqlyn Smith

    Hey all….I just got through to Beck’s show….of course I couldn’t talk because they had moved on to Healthcare….what a joke…..the man asked if he could pass something on…..I said have Apuzzo and Kerchner on his show and discuss what a natural born citizen is…..also….if we don’t have a legal POTUS then there is NO Constitution and the czars and health care don’t matter….we now have a dictator!!! Please call everyone and ask to talk about the illegal President…..let’s bombard them!!!

  156. It is time to stop spitting in the wind. Forget the birth certificate. It is irrelevant to Obama’s ineligibility. Due to Obama’s father foreign citizenship, Barack Obama II was born a British Citizen “at birth” just like the Framers. The Framers at the time of their birth were also British Citizens , hence their inclusion of the grandfather clause in Article 2, section 1, clause 5 of the constitution.

    If Obama was born in Hawaii he was born a citizen, but due to Daddy O no matter where he was born he was born a British Citizen, and thus can never fulfill the natural born citizen requirement. If he was born in Kenya he may not even be a US citizen, this is the real outrage, and why you will never see the courts touch this one.

    You don’t need to see O’s papers to know the truth. It is a distraction. The facts are laid out bare. You either see them or you do not.

  157. 2010/01/04 at 9:51am
    Wow…he did spend an entire segment on it. His basic argument is that even if it were true…..it would take too long and we need to concentrate on the unconstitutional things happening now….czars….healthcare…..etc

    I imagine he will feel a backlash on that segment and just MAY have to revisit it as a result….

    Sandy

    Citizen Wells:
    While I somewhat agree with Beck, I do not work against those fervently pursuing this
    important constitutional issue.
    Beck, if you are not going to cover this story,
    stay the hell out of the way.
    Wells

  158. Hi all – I just got back from my am bike ride and listening on my earphone radio to Glenn Beck also. I am ready to blow my top. He has become a first class media whore. Bragging about how he is the 4th most respected person in the world and how he was on vacation next to Katie Couric. I have had it with him. Like JS said we should all start calling 1-888-727-2325. I would suggest NO SCREAMING but simply explain that Obama couldn’t be legal even if he was born in the White House. He never mentioned NBC.
    Lets go to work guys.

  159. If anyone wants to call back or email, this travesty from Beck will be covered
    on this blog.
    Let them know.
    Also let them know, their ratings can slip too.

  160. I am going to “thank” him for using the Alinsky tactics of the left on his loyal fans…and then ask what that makes him?

    Answer: Hypocrite!

  161. I just read on Hot Air that Congress will bypass conference and using the more “informal” ping-pong method to pass HC bill. Somebody tell me if that means no more voting in the Senate or what?

  162. “ACTION ALERT: FORCING GLENN BECK’S HAND

    This is called Operation “FLOOD IT”

    On Jan 4th, 2010 at 9am I have thousands of patriots that are demanding Beck answer why this matter is being banned from his show and Fox news entirely.

    We will all call (888) 727-2325 and demand to know:

    (go to link for list)

    This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, this is a U.S. Constitution issue.”

    http://americangrandjury.org/action-alert-forcing-glenn-becks-hand

  163. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    ms. helga // January 4, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Hi all – I just got back from my am bike ride and listening on my earphone radio to Glenn Beck also. I am ready to blow my top. He has become a first class media whore. Bragging about how he is the 4th most respected person in the world and how he was on vacation next to Katie Couric. I have had it with him. Like JS said we should all start calling 1-888-727-2325. I would suggest NO SCREAMING but simply explain that Obama couldn’t be legal even if he was born in the White House. He never mentioned NBC.
    Lets go to work guys.
    ************************************

    Ms. Helga…..I got through and did exactly that….I told the guy the birth certificate was a side issue and exactly what the FRAUD wants the media to buy into and Beck is doing exactly that…..he needs to learn about what a “natural born citizen” is and have Apuzzo and Kerchner on his show…..of course I couldn’t talk on the show because they already moved on to Healthcare….my question….why didn’t anyone get through while on the BC issue….they did that on purpose so no one can talk about it!!! I agree with Sandy that he does some good but I will continue to hound him for not doing his part…..I won’t support him in any way except to correct his interpretation of a legal POTUS!!!

  164. Jacqlyn Smith

    CW…I got through but they wouldn’t let me talk!!!

  165. I just sent Beck another email.
    Wells

  166. All of your experiences and comments are documented here.
    Beck had better pay attention.

  167. Also, let Beck know that he was scooped by Lou Dobbs on CNN of all places.
    At least Dobbs asked the questions.

  168. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    citizenwells // January 4, 2010 at 10:27 am

    All of your experiences and comments are documented here.
    Beck had better pay attention.
    *******************************************

    CW….I have now gotten through on Rush, Hannity and Beck…..none of them would let me question or comment on the illegal POTUS!!! All of them said they had moved on to a different subject!

  169. This quote makes me think of the recent EPA regs:
    “When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion – when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you – when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – you may know that your society is doomed. – Ayn Rand

  170. Jacqlyn Smith

    Everyone keep calling and tell them you want to discuss the illegal POTUS…don’t even mention the birth certificate!

  171. Jacqlyn.
    Here is my position:
    1. It is one thing to avoid the issue. That is bad enough.
    2. What is unacceptable is to blow it off as a bunch of fringe wackos.
    That will not be tolerated.

  172. WOW the Hawaiian air has AGED the Pretender in Thief.

    He looks 20 yrs older.

    CYA_01

  173. Oathkeepers Arizona Gov. Candidate becomes Oath Keeper @http://tinyurl.com/yakddfz

    I sent Beck an email. Gotta go walk the dog. We have 2 feet of snow. Where the heck is that global warming? Zach

  174. One thing that Beck said was that if he were Obama, he wouldn’t show the birth certificate either. He said that Obama was playing those who want it because they are making themselves look foolish.

    I would rather look foolish seeking the truth than accept a “president” who thinks so little of those he serves that he would play that kind of game with them, thumbing his nose at them by spending millions to prevent having to release a $12 document just to let them make fools of themselves. How is that presidential? How is that smart? How is that honorable? What kind of precedent does that set? We the people can’t require disclosure?

    He may think we are nuts, but even nuts vote and are supposed to be SERVED by the president…..not played.

  175. El Presidente PRETENDER is literally TURNING WHIET OVERNIGHT:

    CYA_01

  176. Linda from NY

    CW:

    Just a thought…

    The article you wrote recently that compiled all of the pertinent data about the eligibility issue…could you please e-mail that to Beck N Call and EDUCATE him?

    Happy Day…Linda

    PS Sorry for the frustration CWers! Guess we cannot trust any of them to tell the TRUTH about pp!

  177. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    citizenwells // January 4, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Jacqlyn.
    Here is my position:
    1. It is one thing to avoid the issue. That is bad enough.
    2. What is unacceptable is to blow it off as a bunch of fringe wackos.
    That will not be tolerated.
    *******************************************

    CW….I agree…..I am pretty ticked off having gotten through and then not allowed to speak of the illegal POTUS!!!

  178. Jacqlyn.
    Just ask the simple question.

    Why has Obama employed a legion of private and Govt. attorneys to avoid
    presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

    I just heard Beck say common sense and “self evident”.
    This also applies to the question above.

  179. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    citizenwells // January 4, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Jacqlyn.
    Just ask the simple question.

    Why has Obama employed a legion of private and Govt. attorneys to avoid
    presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

    I just heard Beck say common sense and “self evident”.
    This also applies to the question above.
    *****************************************

    CW…..We all agree here but what can we do to get some national exposure that is true and correct…..none of this BS….I believe it will take a march on DC that shuts down the place and is only dedicated to the illegal FRAUD in our White House…..Beck is talking about our rights now…..isn’t it our right to know that our PORUS is legal!!!!

  180. Jacqlyn Smith

    Sorry….suppose to be POTUS!!

  181. CW:

    I believe you will find the audio for the segment here:

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/radio/

  182. Linda from NY @10:10 pm
    Linda lowest identification re: Democrats, that does not count any of us who did not change our registration, but will NOT vote for anything even remotely connected to Obama’s crime machine. Liberal is one thing, total idiots is clearly another. That moron Obama treats enemies better than the average American NBC.
    Makes me wonder who is paying the bills? or is he a double dipper? Taxes from Americans, bribes from the enemy?

  183. The First alleged “black” (he is actually White and Arab not black if we believe his stories because there has been no CREDIBLE DOCUMENTATION yet) President is literally TURNING WHITE OVERNIGHT:

    CYA_01

  184. Sue K
    magna carta 10:17 pm
    Magna Carta is correct fill in the Hillbuzz guys, they are working diligently for Scott and would really appreciate the update.

  185. POTUS needs his birth certificate to prove he is a citizen, thus you will never see it. Obama can never qualify as a natural born citizen since via Daddy O he was born a Brit. Keep it short and simple it is the only way the sheep will learn.

    The $64,000 question is, is President Obama even an US Citizen?

  186. Seems you have to join Beck’s “Insider” club to get to archived audio.

  187. $6.95 for one month subscription to “Insider” club to get audio.

  188. Why now would Beck do a whole segment on this? Look how he rattled all our cages- he does things with a reason and intent. I will believe in him, because I must.

  189. The First alleged “black” President is literally TURNING WHITE OVERNIGHT:

    CYA_01

    I said alleged “black” because according to all info presented, he is actually White and Arab not black if we believe his stories because there has been no CREDIBLE DOCUMENTATION yet.
    He continues being The Bastard Child of yet unknown legal name & status or roots.

    Will Barack’s Background continue being Hidden? Who will be brave enough to uncover the hidden Truth?

  190. Linda from NY @10:28 pm
    The hillbuzz guys they are always thinking. My thoughts were a little different. What if I being a girl I was elected first female potus? I would want to make sure that I picked the smartest, most talented people that I could find, and if I had to cross party lines I would do that. I would want no taint of corruption in my administration and I would work very hard to make sure our Constitution was obeyed, along with no perks for Madame President-I don’t need or want any of the “stuff” I have no need to embellish myself. Enemies of the United States of America LOOK OUT.
    I would want to set a good example so that if in the future another female would aspire to higher office, that I would not be a negative, and/or object of ridicule.
    Esentially the potus position is not about I or me-it is about us-all of us WE THE PEOPLE.

  191. I went to Glenn 9/12 site and put up the following:

    http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/glenn-becks-radio-i-heard

    Dear Glenn – I really don’t understand why you feel it necessary to attack the millions of American’s who question if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen. Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, Obama fails to meet the requirements for being a “natural born citizen”. I am including the comment that got my attention and also a letter I wrote to you a couple of months ago that was published in Australia and Canada.

    Jacqlyn Smith // January 4, 2010 at 10:44 am (edit)

    #

    citizenwells // January 4, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Jacqlyn.
    Just ask the simple question.

    Why has Obama employed a legion of private and Govt. attorneys to avoid
    presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

    I just heard Beck say common sense and “self evident”.
    This also applies to the question above.
    *****************************************

    CW…..We all agree here but what can we do to get some national exposure that is true and correct…..none of this BS….I believe it will take a march on DC that shuts down the place and is only dedicated to the illegal FRAUD in our White House…..Beck is talking about our rights now…..isn’t it our right to know that our PORUS is legal!!!!

    Glenn Beck – Don’t Tase Me Bro!

    (Don’t “Saul Alinsky” Me Either for Being a “Article II, Section 1’er”)

    Dear Glenn Beck:

    I have been watching and listening to you for years now, and have always enjoyed thoughtfully considering your views. You certainly give people a lot of food for thought. However, today I feel compelled to point out that you are sending mixed messages to your viewers/listeners that undermine your goals of reclaiming America and protecting the Constitution.

    A week or so ago, you asked your listeners to get involved and pay attention to what the Obama Administration, politicians and groups like ACORN are attempting to do to America. You indicated that your researchers are working on big project and that you need your listeners to be your eyes and ears. You pointed out that we should not try to follow everything, given the enormity of it all; but to find something we are knowledgeable and passionate about to dig into. Suggestions were made that people might focus on the Second Amendment, Tenth Amendment, Free Speech, ACORN, eugenics, trans-nationalism, or simply just pick one of Obama’s Czars to research and follow in the news.

    I certainly agree that having a substantial number of ordinary Americans paying attention to what’s going on in Congress is vital if we are to survive as a vibrant, growing, transparent and accountable society. I applaud your efforts in this regard.

    However, you now appear to be deciding for your listeners which parts of the Constitution are important and which are not. Yesterday, one segment of the Glenn Beck Show dealt with the topic of how the Obama Administration and Democratic leadership are adopting tactics from Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” to villanize and demoralize ordinary American citizens asking questions of their Representatives in town hall meetings. How they are attempting to label people asking questions about Obama’s policies as the “mob”, right-wingers, racists, etc.

    During that segment, you completely shocked and disappointed me. A woman asking a question about Obama’s birth certificate appeared on screen and you rolled your eyes and referred to her as that “idiot…” I had instant pain in the pit of my stomach, realizing that Saul Alinsky’s rules are now fully integrated into our society if Glenn Beck automatically denigrates a woman “trying to ask a legitimate question” because it doesn’t fit his game plan. I am not trying to offend you, but don’t you understand that such a statement from you is hypocritical, especially in a segment about ridicule?

    I use the phrase that she was “trying to ask a legitimate question” because it is becoming more and more clear that you and many others in the media have succumb to the misinformation regarding this issue. In order for Mr. Obama to legitimately serve as President of the United States, he must be a “natural born citizen”. The Constitutional requirement calling for a “natural born citizen” requires a higher level of citizenship (implying a higher level of allegiance to the United States and her Constitution) to serve; as opposed to what is commonly referred to as being a basic “citizen” of the United States. (Natural Born Citizen = Citizen +Exclusive, Uncompromised Allegiance)

    Many have written on this topic and it is abundantly clear that unresolved questions remain as to who can be a “natural born citizen”. Supreme Court decisions indicate that there are real differences between citizens who can “only be classified as citizens” and those citizens who can “also (additionally) be classified as natural born citizens”. (“Natural Born Citizen” is a subset of “Citizen”) These differences pertain to allegiances that arise by virtue of where the person was born and/or the allegiances that arise because of his or her parents’ foreign allegiances (multiple citizenships/application of foreign law). Therefore, Obama could have been born in Hawaii and still not be a “natural born citizen” because of the foreign allegiances of his father. (As such, “birther” is a misnomer and is used to demean.)

    Reasonable people can disagree where the lines of demarcation should be drawn regarding who can be a “natural born citizen”; and they do. However, many in the media who are demonizing, vilifying, and attempting to demoralize those who say that Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution remains important are simply using obfuscation and misrepresentation to play on the emotions of the uninformed. If changes in the historic/judicial interpretation of the Constitution are to be made, specifically regarding Article II, Section 1; they must be made by the Court based upon reasoned arguments and evidence as to what the framers of the Constitution intended. How to interpret and when to enforce our Constitution’s provisions should not be based on the whims and emotions of the media and politicians.

    Having watched your segment about Sun Tzu and The Art of War, I do realize that you may tactically want the focus to be on Obama’s outrageous policies. Maybe you are thinking that we should be willing to lose the “birther” battle in order to win the bigger war to restore America. I respectfully disagree with your strategy. It is equally important that the Constitution not be trampled upon to serve “an end justifies the means” argument. Notwithstanding my objection, if you do wish to continue neglecting the Article II, Section 1 issue, can’t you refrain from pulling a “Saul Alinsky” against those of us who see this as an important matter? Calling people derogatory names is not really necessary for your purposes and can only cost you viewers/listeners.

    A couple of days ago, you halfway asked a question on your show:

    …”I have to tell you, the ‑‑ I mean, first of all, the birther thing, what are you going to do. Even if it was true, what, are you going to take him out of office? You can’t do that. There’s so many things that are going on that are not on the fringes, not conspiratorial….”

    Answer – Absolutely, we will take him out of office. It’s not okay to sweep violations of the Constitution of the United States under the rug. It’s not mean spirited, racist, unfair, or as dangerous as you make it out to be to do what’s right. It’s more dangerous to ignore the issue and let Obama continue trying to transform America into a socialist nation of oppressed sheep.

    “…not on the fringes…”This is not a fringe issue. Glenn, how can a Constitutional issue about a person’s eligibility to serve as President be a fringe issue? It is a legitimate issue of Obama’s own making by his Nixonest guarding of records normally presented for public review, coupled with direct and circumstantial evidence pointing towards ineligibility that demands judicial review. In a court of law, the “facts” as revealed by complete and proper “discovery” should be carefully scrutinized to establish (and/or affirm) the authority of person sitting in the Oval Office and commanding our military. This is a foundational issue regarding the foundation of Obama’s power. It is being characterized as a fringe issue because it also threatens the media’s credibility and they want it crushed.

    This whole thing reminds me of the line in A Few Good Men, “You can’t handle the truth”. Only this time, the statement is being directed to the American people. I’m sure the American people can handle the truth. That’s all they ever ask for and rarely receive. What makes Americans angry is when politicians and the media decide for them what they can and can’t handle.

    Thank you for all you do for America Mr. Beck! I will keep watching, but maybe not today. Take care.

    Your Sincere Supporter

    Zach

  192. SueK @ 9:12 pm
    I thought the photo of Obama was a ref: to the Putin photo. Obama trying to appear as a “manly” man. Sorry Obama failed that too.

  193. http://www.the912project.us/

    It’s on the main page now. Hopefully Glenn Beck will see it.

    I really have to go now. Zach

  194. Factcheck lied about Obama’s citizenship: Obama to this day is a British Commonwealth Citizen, and could still have others. Even a naturalized citizen, who by measure one would think has less loyalty, takes an oath to abjure all other allegiances. You’d think as a minor gesture he’d do the same thing here.

  195. #

    NancyDrew // January 4, 2010 at 11:04 am

    $6.95 for one month subscription to “Insider” club to get audio.
    ———————————————————-
    He’s turning into a walking franchise and obviously doesn’t believe in FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

  196. Jacqlyn Smith

    Zach…..That was an awesome letter…..way to go guy!!!!

    Please everyone keep calling and when you get through hound them about the “natural born citizen” issue…..not the birth certificate!!!

  197. Thanks Zach.

  198. He mentioned something about a big August 28th event in D.C.. I thinlk we could put some pressure on that by asking will they allow any Birthers there?

  199. Linda from NY @ 11:07 pm
    For business travellers, I wonder if now would not be a good time to invest in the video phones that have video screens-large would be preferable-to lessen the need to travel at all.
    I have no idea what the expenses might be?

  200. Zach:

    Love your letter to Beck!

  201. We need that youtube of Obama sayinh his father was a British subject. Anyone have it?

  202. Kim @ 12:44 am A lie repeated a trillion times still does not a truth make. Let them put all of his records up and they maybe we will believe them.

  203. I just found this. BOMBARD BECK WITH IT.

  204. e-mailed glen beck. Michelle,if they bypass a conference on health-care and use ping-pong…even Scotty can’t help right?
    He has a new truck ad out…its cool posted at Hillbuzz and TD blog.

  205. Glenn Beck should ask his friend Judge Napolitano who is a Constitutional expert, what natural born citizen means and just how Obama violates that standing. I refuse to believe Beck doesn’t know or understand the eleigibility issue in full. He’s been given the informaation numerous times and he has a staff that must have researched it. Why he won’t recognize the validity of the whole issue is a mystery only he can reveal. Either he has been warned to back off or he really isn’t what we all thought, which is a true patriot fighting for our country’s survival. What really makes me furious is his denigrating all of us who believe that Obama’s eligibility questions are a legitamate problem and reason for impeachment. We ‘birthers’ as he so easily mocked, are the same people who supported his 9/12 movement and who attended all the tea parties and town halls and who have awoken to do something for our country. I am emailing him several times today about how disappointed I am in his response to this issue. Very disappointed.

  206. Please forgive the spelling errors above, as I am quite upset with this Beck thing so didn’t take the time to proof the post..

  207. Beck has been compromised.

    He knows about the natural born citizen clause, and the fact Obama is not eligible as much as the rest of us.

    Remember his investigative journalist that showed up at Orlys court hearing on YouTube?

    He’s been following this as much as the rest of us, and has been following Orly, Donofrio, Pidgeon, Appuzo, etc……

    Trust me, Beck and all of the FOX network know everything we know.

    Sure is funny how yesterday FOX ran several segments pushing stuff like ‘this is the hospital where Obama was born’ and ‘ his home town of HI’ and basically rubbing it in our faces; and now Beck spends an entire show ramming it down our throats.

    I’m beginning to believe that FOX is just controlled opposition to make us feel like someone is on our side every once in awhile to keep the sheeple appeased.

    We need a new media funded by birthers and Constitutionalists.

  208. For every problem there is a solution. Obama and his administration enter a jet. Various terrorists who do not go through screening also allowed on the same jet. Bon voyage. This in essence is what the Obama administration is inflicting on the American flying public.
    You could call it Lots of Luck airlines.

  209. MAYBE HE WORKS FOR THE C.I.A..

  210. I often wonder how the MSM including FOX News would react when and if it is proved that Obama is NOT Eligible ? Will Hannity, O’Reilly, Beck, et al, say “we always knew, but, could not talk about it” ?

    I, for one, have never cared for Beck. His exaggerated eye rolling and other mannerisms remind me of Olberman. If Beck has content it is dismissive with his body language.

    Beck is often “off the reservation” and I predict he will not last in Journalism.

  211. I am still listening now and he has used “PISSED OFF” several times already. I thought he was a true Christian.

  212. http://hillbuzz.org/
    Those hillbuzz guys are so at it again.
    under a picture of Obama is this caption.
    “A queen from Chicago”
    As Dr. Utopia, the current president, has almost certainly decided to move to Hawaii permanently after he leaves office in January 2013. Being made King of Hawaii is something, like winning the Nobel Peace Prize, that Dr. Utopia expects, feels entitled to, and believes will hold his interest “for at least a week or two”.

  213. Bravo Zach!

    Obama admits he was a British Citizen at birth. As such, Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States and neither were the Framers of the constitution, hence the grandfather clause in article 2,section 1, clause 5 of the US Constitution.

    After 18 months of research, my conclusion is Obama may not even be a US citizen. If his Hawaiian birth is false, and he was born in Kenya, we have a problem. This is the cover-up. We already know he doesn’t qualify as NBC.

  214. Linda from NY

    Zach:

    What a Magnificent Manuscript!

    You are a real “Treasure” and a Gifted Writer!

    Thanks so much for saying so succinctly what we are all wishing we could say!

    Happy Day…Linda

    PS You made my day!

  215. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    CJ // January 4, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Glenn Beck should ask his friend Judge Napolitano who is a Constitutional expert, what natural born citizen means and just how Obama violates that standing. I refuse to believe Beck doesn’t know or understand the eleigibility issue in full. He’s been given the informaation numerous times and he has a staff that must have researched it. Why he won’t recognize the validity of the whole issue is a mystery only he can reveal. Either he has been warned to back off or he really isn’t what we all thought, which is a true patriot fighting for our country’s survival. What really makes me furious is his denigrating all of us who believe that Obama’s eligibility questions are a legitamate problem and reason for impeachment. We ‘birthers’ as he so easily mocked, are the same people who supported his 9/12 movement and who attended all the tea parties and town halls and who have awoken to do something for our country. I am emailing him several times today about how disappointed I am in his response to this issue. Very disappointed.
    *******************************************
    CJ…that is the problem with all of these shows and the MSM….they want to make it about the birth certificate and if the FRAUD was born in Hawaii…..people who are up on the constitution and the citizenship questions know the answers….it is not about being a citizen….it is about being a “natural born citizen”….required to be POTUS….either we are following the Constitution all the time or not at all…..you can’t have it both ways!!!

  216. Patriot Dreamer

    On Beck’s radio show, they just made an odd comment about Catherine Zeta-Jones and how she wasn’t born in the U.S. And they wondered if she was a dual citizen. That comment didn’t seem to be related to anything. Could it be related to the birther issue that they were talking about earlier?

  217. Jacqlyn Smith

    Breaking news…..two Federal Marshals just shot in Las Vegas!!!

  218. Catherine Zeta-Jones was born in Wales which I knew, married to an American.
    25 September 1969, Swansea, West Glamorgan, Wales, UK .
    I don’t know her current citizenship status.

  219. Patriot Dreamer

    Isn’t she still a citizen of the U.K.? I just don’t understand that comment at all.

  220. I noticed that too PD. I found it odd myself.

    Could it be that he is being bombarded now with the question of Ovomit’s heritage and that comment had hidden meaning?

    He even said she was an English citizen….same as Obummer.

    Was this another ridicule…..or an acknowledgement.

  221. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Sandy // January 4, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    I noticed that too PD. I found it odd myself.

    Could it be that he is being bombarded now with the question of Ovomit’s heritage and that comment had hidden meaning?

    He even said she was an English citizen….same as Obummer.

    Was this another ridicule…..or an acknowledgement.
    ****************************************

    Sandy and all…..I did notice that they didn’t take any phone calls today…..were they all directed at the illegal Prez…….is that why NO ONE was allowed to speak??

  222. the FBI “specifically named individual” in the Blagojevich case
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/09/michelle-obama-is-the-specifically-named-individual-on-page-64-of-the-affidavit-submitted-by-fbi/
    ********
    My one observation…….with all this ‘pay to play’ money coming in from big business and corporations by serving on boards, panels, etc……how are these people so damned broke and in need of money all the time…….like the aka obamas searching for money for the mansion???(which I surmised they really never bought, but it belonged to the tenant/owner, but that’s another story??)

  223. Linda from NY

    2 Guards Shot Inside Las Vegas Federal Building

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581912,00.html

  224. Questions of the day.
    Can a British Citizen also be a natural born citizen of the US?

    Are Zeta- Jones children citizens? Where were they born? Are Zeta- Jones children natural born citizens of the US.

    Beck should ask Judge Napalitano. There is not a judge in the land willing to ask a basic question. What is the definition of a constitutional natural born citizen? Perhaps if we ask the questions of someone not in office (Zeta- Jones)someone will have the balls to ask. If we find out the citizenship status of the Zeta- Jones children we have all the answers we need.

  225. Sue K this is for you, from drkate click on the you tube link.
    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/how-the-fight-will-be/How the Fight Will Be
    Published January 3, 2010 drkate 10 Comments
    Tags: we the people
    ©2009 drkate
    I am just returning from my trip to the southwest, and ran across this video that captures what can happen when someone bigger than you underestimates your energy…

  226. I just emailed Beck. Asked him WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? ASK QUESTIONS like YOU wanted us to do!
    MY SUBJECT LINE STATED: I HAD MORE FAITH IN YOU THAN THIS!!!!!! WHY?

  227. Beck is a media whore. I had faithfully dvd’d his shows…but no more.
    He is trying to shape us…I too believe he is controlled opposition.

  228. Linda from NY

    Two FBI agents shot in downtown Las Vegas

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420640/posts

  229. Have Beck call me, I will give him an Education. The Son of a Foreignor can not meet the requirement for a CIC of America.

  230. I am so DONE with deniers!

  231. Linda from NY

    DeMint backs off criticism of Obama

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2420633/posts

    Another one bites the dust!

  232. Prairie – I believe you nailed it. Just look at the reaction. That pretty much says it all, eh?

    Eagle – thank you for your generous invitation. I’ll head over soon. You may wish to know that my blog will be up in mid January and hope you’ll stop in for a visit too.

  233. Linda from NY

    Tea Party Protest In New Mexico Exercises Their 2nd Amendment Right (Video)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420626/posts

  234. Linda from NY

    The Presidency that is correcting the Fundamental Flaws of this Country

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420610/posts

  235. Linda from NY

    NPR attacks us… “Learn To Speak Tea Bag”

    Political Lore ^

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420604/posts

  236. Linda from NY

    Napolitano Suggests New Homeland Security Measures For Airlines

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2420594/posts

  237. Sandy // January 4, 2010 at 9:40 am

    He just pissed off an enormous chunk of his listenership……
    ***********

    No, Sandy, he did that a year ago when he, on CNN, displayed the same behavior as now…….I stopped tuning in then and expect millions of listeners did likewise. When he moved in Jan, 2009, I refused to listen and im May disconnected cable altogether…..
    Hs is still a ‘shill’ and there for ratings….money keeps him going!!!

  238. Don in California

    Is there “any” true news source anymore??

  239. Don in California

    I’m going to watch becks show today and after that I will be watching the weather channel during his time frame.

  240. Here’s what I emailed Glenn :
    Glenn, you are offending a lot of your fans who are apparently more educated than you are. Obama’s fraud re eligibility is ground zero. Not only was he likly not born in the U.S. (as shown by numerous facts), but he is a British citizen by his own words (damage to an essential constitutional requirement). The truth should be exposed, not ignored. Query: who put him in place? All of this is intertwined. The cover-up itself should be a primary subject on your show. Considering the above it is hard not to conclude that you want him in office to boost your own fame. Shame on you. Paula Loeffler, Esq.

  241. I will not stop listening to him. Why? Because he does fight more of the dirty battles imho than any other talk show host. He is doing a lot in exposing the ugly truth in Washington.

    ******************

    He feeds you what you want to be fed……..9/12 project?? He fed us what we wanted……he has pr agents making millions to inform him and his producers…..

  242. JJ….

    I stuck with him and so did a lot of other Patriots even after that.

    He ridiculed many still hopeful followers today……..

    It was a slap in the face to a large segment of the very people who have made him. RUDE

  243. Linda from NY @ 12:36
    “Learn To Speak Tea Bag” and yet it is the biggest “party” and it is not even a party. Dem’s are losing members in droves, who are not going back so in a 2 party system they are heading for Republican hills-mainly because Obama is so corrupt and stupid and un-American and just plain crazy and his numbers reflect it. He thinks that they are going to get better?

  244. Fox News became the most watched cable news station because of Obama.
    Glenn Beck found fame because of Obama.
    They need Obama. His ineligibility, if given the light of day would ruin their gravy train.

    Boycott them! We the people never fully utilize our strength! THAT is what makes me mad!

  245. Sandy

    Citizen Wells:
    While I somewhat agree with Beck, I do not work against those fervently pursuing this
    important constitutional issue.
    Beck, if you are not going to cover this story,
    stay the hell out of the way.
    Wells
    ********

    You mean, “if you can’t lead or follow, get out of our damned way”……….

  246. Don in California // January 4, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Is there “any” true news source anymore??
    ———————————————————–
    One answer – “1984” and Howard Beale in “Network”

  247. Let me be clear:

    If this country doesn’t take a stand en masse real soon we are going to lose it!!!

  248. “Don’t be afraid to ask questions???”

    “Question with BOLDNESS”

    “Truth is only threatened when debate is stopped?”

    WTH?

    “SHAME ON YOU (BECK) MEDIA….Shame on you!”

  249. John Charlton

    JC,

    What you say about the BC not being important is actually quite faulty.

    The BC is important, because you cannot prove anything about Obama’s citizenship status without the actual document.

    That’s why the revelation of the originalS is important, one way or another….

  250. It’s important if for no other reason HE WORKS FOR US and if WE WANT TO SEE the DAMN thing HE SHOULD SHOW IT.

  251. Rasmussen always polls the same way, are the Dems just now noticing this? Obama started tanking around June 30 and has been in a steady decline. To add more misery Obama keeps doing dumber and dumber things which adds to Obama’s dwindling numbers. The DNC installed the wrong guy-both flaming out.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31047.html
    Nothing, however, sets off liberal teeth gnashing more than Rasmussen’s daily presidential tracking polls, which throughout the year have consistently placed Obama’s approval numbers around 5 percentage points lower than other polling outfits.
    “He polls less favorably for Democrats, and that’s why he’s become a lightning rod,” said Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin political scientist who studies polling. “It’s clear that his results are typically more Republican than the other person’s results.”
    On Saturday, Dec. 26, for example, Rasmussen’s daily tracking had Obama’s approval at 44 percent, with a disapproval figure of 56 percent. A Real Clear Politics compilation of other pollsters, meanwhile, showed Obama with an average approval figure of 49.5 percent and disapproval of 45.1 percent.
    “He’s been underpolling Obama all year,” said Boehlert. “People start thinking, ‘There’s something going on here.’”
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31047.html#ixzz0bfXVcFfS

  252. It looks like Beck is trying to get the “birthers” out of the movement, he thinks birthers distract that which he can prove. Birthers draw heat to the cause, are easy to ridicule, and make the cause look foolish. Only one sign at any event changes the conversation. I will paraphrase, if the Clintons can’t prove it then let it go, it is a lost cause. He only wants to fight what he considers provable. He is saying this fight will not be won. Move on. We are running out of time. Choose your battles. A perfect storm is coming, the economy will collapse, an event is coming that will change America overnight.

    Does he have a point? We have been trying to get the facts out for two years with very little accomplished. The Supreme Court had the chance to uphold the Constitution, they passed Judge Carter had a chance to uphold the Constitution, he passed. The sheep do not care enough to understand that a British Citizen can never qualify as natural born citizen of the United States.

  253. Becks email must be full. I received one back. My other email address worked. (the one from beck@foxnews.com came back undeliverable. ) mailbox full.
    Anyone else?

  254. I once facetiously said that the 2 party system comprised of the CIA and the CIA. I believe that the real parties are made up of the Elitists and the Folks. Both current parties are made up of elitists and folks. It doesn’t take much analyzing to figure out that there are a lot more folks. Now if we can get all the good folks from both parties to come together into a Constitutional Party they will never stop us. The Elitists may have all the money but we will have all the numbers, and that is what wins elections.
    GOOD PEOPLE ARE NOT DRIVEN BY MONEY

  255. Patriot Dreamer // January 4, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Glenn Beck painted all “birthers” with a broad brush. Basically boiled it down to where BO was born. Said nothing about all of the other issues (dual allegiances; jbjd’s research, etc.) Not happy with that segment.

    WH Counsel Bob Bauer needs to be added to the list of “Birthers.” Because he – not I – said, that infamous on-line COLB is not for real. That’s right; he told Judge Robertson, sitting in the D.C. Circuit Court, that his client, BO, only publicly produced a document indicating he was born in Hawaii. He did not tell Judge Robertson, this public disclosure he referenced consisted of the posting of a document on the internest web site bought and paid for by BO; and he did not produce an ‘original’ of the document posted on BO’s web site or, any other document to which he was referring, entitled “Birth Certificate” OR “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB).

    Given that BO’s own attorney, the eminent WH Counsel Bob Bauer, then also Counsel to the DNC Services Corporation, failed to identify to the federal court that BO’s on-line COLB establishes he was born in HI; for what reason do millions of people otherwise believe, this on-line document proves where BO was born?

    This lack of verification as to citizenship status derives not from my ‘research’ but from a simple reading of Bob Bauer’s own words. If people were not so busy making excuses for BO, they, too, could read and comprehend the plain language of Mr. Bauer’s representations to the court, contained in that infamous footnote in Hollister in January 2009.

    Which still doesn’t answer the question, on what documentary basis did Nancy Pelosi ascertain BO was Constitutionally eligible for POTUS when she swore he was, to state election officials, in August 2008?

  256. John Charlton // January 4, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    JC,

    What you say about the BC not being important is actually quite faulty.

    The BC is important, because you cannot prove anything about Obama’s citizenship status without the actual document.

    That’s why the revelation of the originalS is important, one way or another….
    *********
    Exactly…….the starting point. Who’s yo daddy??

  257. @jc:

    I think he is right.

    No one in this country has the guts to remove the first “black” president except we the people.

    There is no republican that is willing to risk losing the zero percent of the black vote that it has at this time by removing him. If they did that, blacks would never vote for them…wait…

    OK, so the GOP is just stupid.

    There is no judge or court in this country that wants to open the corrupt can of worms that got this obvious fraud elected. Judges want to impose their wills on people who cannot fight back. Obama can deliver some mealy-mouthed rambling nonsense speech, and make a judge look foolish.

    Judges are cowards.

    The media will not question this man’s origins. There is no media, just ask Glenn Beck. Question boldly…lol

    I do think Glenn is right, a perfect storm is coming. I do not think there will be any avoiding it. I do believe that Obama is, in fact, the devil, and he is going to be a very worthy foe.

  258. John,
    I don’t agree and that is why “birthers” are dead in the water and this issue will never be understood by the sheep. Don’t make it more complicated than it is wishing and hoping for a document that will never see the light of day. I don’t care if Obama is a citizen. To be POTUS he must qualify as a NBC, and I already know he does not qualify as NBC. He is not eligible.

    Obama’s web site, Fight the Smears, admits he was a British Citizen at birth. A direct admission. Any birth certificate either from Kenya or Hawaii will not change the fact that Obama was a British citizen “at birth”.

    Obama being subject to British jurisdiction “at birth” bars him from being eligible to be President of the United States.

    Simple. No documentation necessary.

  259. JJ,
    This is another reason the “birthers” are so easily dismissed.
    Who’s your Daddy?, throws the cause right smack into conspiracy theory territory, and makes everyone look “crazy”. You may be correct but you will never be able to prove it.

    Use Obama’s own stories, against him, he stated time and time again that Daddy O was Barack Hussein Obama. Daddy O passed on his British Citizenship onto his children. Barack Hussein Obama II was born a British citizen. He is not eligible to be POTUS. Keep it simple.

  260. I do not understand…what are they teaching in schools about a natural born citizen…. as to an American citizen…. how do they explain the difference? Anyone here a teacher?…have kids in school/…Can anyone answer the question?

  261. How easy it is to manufacture a totally fraudulent image, obviously Obama attended the same school for scoundrels that Tiger did. What will the media attempt to manufacture next?
    Golf blogger Joe Logan says Woods listened to his handlers and became the Sphinx of the links.
    “Tiger learned very well to talk forever and say nothing,” Logan says.
    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/01/04/2010-01-04_tiger_woods_shirtless_and_pumping_iron_in_vanity_fair.html#ixzz0bfgNyJLv

  262. Margie @ 1:56 pm jbjd and her class of 9 th graders. It is all laid out here.
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/out-of-the-mouths-of-babes/

  263. People, you cannot imagine how many classrooms are filled with books about Barack Obama (the brand that is, not the real person). One book has the sub-title, “From Kansas to Kenya.” (As far as I know, BO never lived in KS.) Part of the book described BO in church listening to the voice of God saying, ‘What’s your hurry (to change the world)?’ I cannot wait until he is ‘outed’ and the books come out outlining the fraud, which was right under our noses, all along.

  264. I just checked on the post I put up at the http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/glenn-becks-radio-i-heard?commentId=2881797%3AComment%3A565342

    The responses are very favorable. I feel confident that he must be getting the message.

    Keep it up!!!!

    Zach

  265. Don in California

    Zach, the problem with that link is that you have to be a member. I dropped out when the format changed and there was no info on how to comment.

  266. I wonder if Glenn Beck has the courage to sign The Post & Email’s petition…

  267. Michelle // January 4, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Margie @ 1:56 pm jbjd and her class of 9 th graders. It is all laid out here.
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/out-of-the-mouths-of-babes/
    —-

    Flood Beck w/jbjd’s post. That oughta get some attention especially since it’s NOT about the BC. It’s about election fraud. Let the 9th graders teach it to him since he won’t listen to adults.

  268. Don in California – I joined last week when someone put up my last post. I wanted to be able to respond to it. There are a lot of thoughtful folks over there.

    It’s a good way to hook up with actions that may be going on locally. They have a military group, Second Amendment, Navy Seals, each state has a group, etc. I’m still exploring it.

    Take care, Zach

  269. Question…..

    Do you think that Barry will hide his tax returns? Are they under his protection order too?

  270. A while ago, Leo Donofrio had this question on his website. It’s a question he wanted Gibbs (or anyone else for that matter) to answer:

    “During the election, then Senator Obama published a statement at his website which said that his birth status was “governed” by the British Nationality Act of 1948. Can you please tell the American people how a natural born citizen of the United States can be governed–at birth–by British law?’

    I wrote down Leo’s question and carry it with me in my wallet. I believe this is the one question Obama and his people need to answer, for starters.

  271. Ginger–2:42: Nope! He’ll have three–one, a dummy return; two–the “real” one; three–the true one that never gets filed.

  272. Just what I thought! Thanks, twe

    hehehehe

  273. This just came in Glenn Beck’s newsletter –

    Birthers Birthing

    Just like the notorious ‘seminar callers’ Rush talks about, there is a new type of seminar caller out there trying to get on talk radio: the birther. Sure, there are plenty of idiots out there who actually think Barack Obama was not born in the United States and this is a way to get him impeached. But most reasonable people don’t believe that. It’s so ridiculous that it’s actually a good distraction for Obama, because it’s an easy win for him and distracts from the real issues. Is that why so many birthers seem to be on different talk shows lately? Glenn explains. ( Transcript, Insider Audio)…

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/34625/

    Audio: http://www.dat-e-baseonline.com/front/a.asp?arg=8F7D995F927E7D5F636F767A628B73798C6A766E867B73

  274. They just HATE losing control of their shows. This is about the callers…..not the real issue.

  275. OT–but, of interest:

  276. ok I read jbjd blog, it didn’t speak of defining natural born citizen.

  277. I have been thinking about this quite a bit and am pissed at GB as well, wich is not easy as I am a big fan of his.

    I really like what you wrote, Zach.
    I just think Beck won’t read it all
    with his
    ADD.
    The other comments and defenses make alot of sense, too. Especially the Alinsky comparison.

    What I think may get
    Becks
    attention is this; What is he constantly saying to his viewer and his critics?
    “I’m just asking questions”.
    Or “Question with boldness”.

    What are we doing?
    Asking a question.
    I agree we nay not want to make it about the actual birth Cert.-but about the dual citizenshiop which came right from Barry’s own words.

    So, I think a concerted effort to ask Beck, why are we wrong in asking a question?

    Why the ridicule ala Alinsky?
    Short and simple will get
    his attention.

    He OWES US an apoplgy, at least. Will he take this on? No.
    But we deserve to be treated better than this.
    I mean, he is literally NO BETTER than his ridiculers when he ridicules US!

    Just a suggestion, but what is this worth to you?
    $6.95?

    I am going to sign up for a one month subscription,as an Insider,because I know he will read my e-mail if I do.
    Trust me on this one.
    Is it worth $6.95 to you?

    Thanks for “listening”.

  278. Don in California

    I just read that transcript and not one word about Natural Born Status. Glen just lost a fan. I am disgusted with him as much as congress and obama.

  279. Don in California

    I can’t speak for anyone else, but I do NOT like being made fun of. And I just re-joined the 912Project. Guess I will have to unjoin again. I can not believe the tone of becks transcript. It’s a good thing I didn’t actually hear it or I would have thrown something at my radio.

  280. Just a word of caution–as much as we dislike this GB stuff, we should be alert to what else is going on as well. If GB persists, treat him as you would a troll: Don’t feed him. Don’t let this stuff distract from the mission.

  281. Name the enemy
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339382352&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    …Neither former president George W. Bush, who spoke mostly of a “war on terror,” nor President Barack Obama, who speaks in terms of “violent extremists” – and no European leader – has had the courage to say that the enemy is global jihad.

  282. Margie @ 3:18 pm Margie it is about the fraud re: putting an ineligible candidate without any proof on the ballot-Pelosi/DNC. That is the origin of the entire fraud. You may have to go back and read prior postings.
    The equivalent would be me swearing that you are Matilda Smith with no documentation, (because you said so) signing off on it but you are really Margie Smith. When asked for proof later I have nothing to provide. (I just took your word for it).

  283. I’m done with Beck. I gave him a pass when he called a caller “small minded” for simply “wondering” about the implications of O’s name. And I, like the rest of you are involved in ALL the issues, not just this one.

    I’ve had enough of QUESTION BOLDLY is great for me but not for thee. I guess he thinks Sarah Palin is nuts because she doesn’t believe any question is too lowly for an American citizen to ask.

    It’s hypocritical, pure and simple. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard him encourage ppl to question boldly and then when they do, he calls them nuts?? Wow.

    Didn’t think it would happen, but fame has gone to his head and he’s acting like a Hollywood elite. I don’t have time for it. Even if someone doesn’t believe it, discouraging others from questioning and looking into it is just not acceptable to me…very unamerican.

    When I got my passport, “common sense and “isn’t it obvious” woulda gotten me laughed out of the place, and trying that while boarding a plane or entering the US woulda gotten me thrown in jail. Guess Beck considers O better than the rest of us.

  284. @ Jacqlyn Smith, et al at the 10:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. “time block” today…….
    I started at 9:20 this morning trying to contact Beck… busy, busy and then at 9:25, I got through to the “screener” asked him why Beck doesn’t address Obama’s illegitimacy……he said he didn’t know but would ask Beck…… almost instantaneously, I was disconnected…. Tried again around 10:00.. same thing. busy, busy and then connected to same screener with the same end results……….Beck is no more than a big “gas bag” and I quit watching his “show” several months ago…..now I feel a lot like Don Quixote and his windmills….

    Richard

  285. citizenwells

    JJ

    You mean, “if you can’t lead or follow, get out of our damned way”……….

    Amen.

  286. Richard @3:32 it makes me wonder? Are they more afraid of terrorists, or the Question (Obama eligibility)? very interesting, grown-ups afraid of the question. They could say I don’t know and at least be somewhat accurate.

  287. http://hillbuzz.org/2010/01/03/america-rising-video-an-open-letter-to-democrats/

    Lookit what Hillbuzz has said about youtube and that FANTASTIC video going VIRAL!

  288. @ Michelle 3:38,
    We already know the answer to that question…..It’s the “Question” and not the terrorists……and the eventual, undesired, and possibly fatal consequences that the “Answers” will bring. Feel like Don Quixote and his windmills………anybody seen Sancho Panza????

    Richard

  289. Anyone here from the Dearborn /Detroit area?

  290. jbjd @ 2:06 pm I agree with you. Obama the brand v/s anything that resembles the truth.
    “I cannot wait until he is ‘outed’ and the books come out outlining the fraud, which was right under our noses, all along.” A day of victory for our Constitution and all who worked so hard to defend her.
    From Kansas (isn’t that where his mother was from) to Kenya and many points in between. I swear the people who write this drivel about Obama are former writers for soap operas. (I have always hated soap operas they bear absolutely no resemblance to real life). Some of my girlfriends loved them since the guys act sickenly nice-that’s not normal either. Polite is good, soap opera guys act weird.

  291. j.b. – The video is gone. From the comments on that page the obots are at work again. Sure hope I can find it somewhere.

  292. Looks like George Sorros finally wrote Glenn Beck a big-fat-fatty check to keep his mouth shut about Obamas dual citizenship problem.

    We really need to start some kind of nationwide campaign to raise funds for our own news station.

    I wonder what FOX would do when they found out 5 million people are signed up to donate money to a new fund to sponsor/start a brand new cable news network “THAT TELLS THE TRUTH”?

    Everyone on the internet knows FOX is filtering and propagandizing us to death.

    They’re no better than CNBC, ABC, CBS and others.

    The government owns the media, and it’s destroying this country.

  293. Glenn asks why does the white house attack anyone in its way.

    I ask why is Glenn attacking me?

    I’m not an idiot, Glenn.

    I don’t lay on my floor in a fetal position either.

    The president is a fraud,

    And so are you.

  294. Looks like Glenn Beck is officially off the people we can trust list.

    I think he’s trying to high jack the grass roots movement personally.

    I believe FOX is actually controlled opposition to the grass roots movement, paid for by big money like the saudis and Sorros?

    They clearly are not willing to report the ‘real news’, only that in which they want us to hear.

    If they were truly on our side, they would have blown this eligibility issue wide open, and never stopped until the Supreme court addressed the issue.

    They don’t want the eligibility issue to see the light of day, or they would have been all over it!

    Why keep reporting secondary issues of corruption, marxism, etc. when all you have to do to stop the entire regime dead in their tracks is bring up the eligibility issue?

  295. Fox News:

    We Decide What to Report to You.

  296. citizenwells

    **** New Post ****

  297. US Constitution..Article 1 Section 8 (10) To define and punish Piracies and Felonies commited on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations; So we know the Law of Nations is spoke of in the Constitution. So we need to read the Law of Nations…
    Which states … The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannotb exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, these children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all thier rights.

    Any questions???

  298. The South EXACTLY

    HOW DO WE START OUR OWN FREE PRESS NEWS SHOW???

  299. Remember everyone, factcheck lied

    Obama’s Kenyan citizenship did not expire until 1984, which meant he was CUKC after the BNA of 1981, which means

    he is still a British Commonwealth Citizen to this day

    OR he could still be Kenyan if he renewed it when he went to Kenya at that time

    He is a citizen of a foreign country, nevertheless.

  300. All;

    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.

    Thomas Jefferson, 1764

    Half the harm that is done in this worldIs due to people who want to feel important They dont mean to do harm ­But the harm does not interest them.Or they do not see it, or they justify it Because they are absorbed in the endless struggle To think well of themselves.

    T.S. Eliot

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