Rush Limbaugh, Simple question, Citizen Wells challenge, Obama birth certificate, US Constitution, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Birth certificate fair question, Obama attorneys, Why Obama avoids

Sarah Palin, Alaska Governor, Vice Presidential Candidate, author and rookie journalist said that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fair question.

“Palin Says Obama Birth certificate is Fair Question”
“Sarah Palin on the Rusty Humphreis Show discussing Obama’s birth certificate. She argues that just as she showed trigs birth certificate Obama should have to show his.”

Sean Hannity recently maintained journalistic standards on his radio show.

“On the Hannity Radio Show, yesterday, December 8, 2009, Sean Hannity echoes what Sarah Palin stated about Obama’s birth certificate being a fair question. He stated that World Net Daily was just doing due diligence by questioning the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate. He stated that a lot of people are afraid to ask the question.”

Recently, the Citizen Wells blog challenged Rush Limbaugh to ask the simple question regarding Obama and his efforts to hide his records.

“”Sacred honor” isn’t a phrase we use much these days, but every American life is touched by the bounty of this, the Founders’ legacy. It is freedom, tested by blood, and watered with tears.”… Rush H. Limbaugh, Jr. (father of radio host)”
“There are at least 3 reasons why Rush Limbaugh will ask the question of the century:
1. It is a self evident truth. Rush will risk ridicule for a just cause.

2. Rush Limbaugh is the man of the hour. This question will define this century.

3. Rush Limbaugh’s father would have asked this question.”

our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor

To: Rush Limbaugh

From: Citizen Wells
We are not asking you to delve deep into legal matters, into court cases, into legal precedents or definitions. We are simply asking you to ask the question that a fifth grader could ask and answer.

The question is why?

“1. Barack Obama has employed a legion of private and government attorneys to prevent revealing his country of birth. Innocent and eligible persons seeking the office of president do not do that.”


220 responses to “Rush Limbaugh, Simple question, Citizen Wells challenge, Obama birth certificate, US Constitution, Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Birth certificate fair question, Obama attorneys, Why Obama avoids

  1. I once got through to the call line on the Rush show and they would not let me bring up the Nathan Deal letter because they said it was a moot point and hung up on me….haven’t called back since…..maybe it is time to try again!!!

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  3. Jacqlyn Smith.
    Rush’s call screener is a piece of work.
    If you get a bad reception at Rush’s show, let me know.

  4. zachjonesishome

    Good Morning – It’s freezing here. I sure could use a little global warming. I put your post up. Zach

  5. FOR RUSH – I have listened to your show since 1987 and in fact I met your mother Millie in 1997 in your hometown thru her friendship with Mimi Meinz. We had supper together at the Outback Steakhouse. I have heard you read your father’s speech every year.”They pledged their lives , their fortunes and their sacred honor”.

  6. Thanks Zach.
    Yeah, the global warming is hell.

  7. CW,

    Time to turn up the heat here in CA. I need to take the two election certification statements to my elected representative to get the ball rolling. This is the same guy that I visited in the Summer that I told you about.

    Is there a way for a common citizen like me to get my hands on copies of the two certifications for bho? I believe both were signed by pelosi but the certification language was different on one.

    I have had it, this is the tipping point for me. Next comes the torches and pitchforks!

  8. CA Patriot.
    Have you “spoken” to jbjd?

  9. Off Topic – Does anyone have the SCLU’s address? I’m sening cards out today. I have a beautiful card with a Nativity Scene stating the reason for the season and MERRY CHRISMAS!

    I lost the address!

    Can anyone help?

  10. Morning, Zach,

    I have 7″ of white ‘global warming’ at my house. Time to call Algore; I have a nice shovel with his name on it…

  11. correction – ACLU!

  12. Patriot Dreamer

    White House served ACORN-shaped cookies at Monday’s annual Christmas party:

  13. I was just thinking we should send copies of Lucas Smith’s BC in Christmas cards to the Fraudster. Inside state “You’re going down!”

  14. kidmon,…. aclu’s address:

    National Media:
    125 Broad Street
    New York, NY 10004
    (212) 549-2666

    Legislative Media:
    915 15th Street, NW
    Washington, DC 20005
    (202) 675-2312
    Contact your ACLU affiliate for legal assistance, or for local media queries. More »

  15. Rush is no longer the person that he has portrayed himself to be (The Saviour of the free world). What ever has sealed his lips, needs to be removed!! RUSH, IT’S TIME TO MAN-UP!

  16. Patriot Dreamer

    “ACORN may have a seat at the table being on the oversight committee regulating the financial services industry of the United States,” Bachmann said at a press conference. “And that would be a cruel joke.”

  17. Patriot Dreamer // December 10, 2009 at 10:48 am

    I saw that also – Disgusting isn’t it? Everything with this group is “So In Your Face!”

  18. Morning, All,

    Where’s Kanye West when you need him? He should have shown up at the Nobel acceptance speech, grabbed the microphone from the Barkster, and said the following:

    “Yo Barky, I’m really happy for you, I’ll let you finish, but Beyonce has one of the best videos of all time. One of the best videos of all time!”

    Oh, Kanye, where were you???

  19. joyceaz // December 10, 2009 at 10:50 am

    Thanks So Much! And MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  20. This is the address I have:

    125 Broad Street
    18th Floor
    New York , NY 10004

  21. NancyDrew // December 10, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Thanks! Think I’ll send one to all three addresses

    Merry CHRISTmas!

  22. Kidmon: Good idea, you can’t go wrong!

    Merry Christmas!

  23. Here is some follow up information about Sherry Peel Jackson:

    I called Sherry’s Representative Hank Johnson 4th District (GA) at 202-225-1605 and his clerk “Mary Beth” told me “Hank is in D.C. right now” and, “We have a staff person working on this issue of helping Sherry in our office.”

    I told Mary Beth to add my name to the list of people that have been calling his office and to have Hank call me at my office. I gave Mary Beth this message to give to Hank,
    “I want Hank to realize I DEMAND PRIORITY BE GIVEN TO SHERRY PEEL JACKSON’S URGENT MEDICAL NEEDS AND THAT LIFE SAVING EMERGENCY MEASURES AND ONGOING MEDICAL CARE BE DONE IMMEDIATELY FOR SHERRY. Tell Representative Hank Johnson, “If you do not get Sherry Peel Jackson immediate help, I will be calling the State Attorney’s Office and demand they put charges on all people responsible for criminal torture, malpractice, and gross negligence, including you, Mr. Hank Johnson, and your office. America is watching this Hank, & WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND that you solve this illegal, immoral, and evil situation immediately as Sherry’s life is at stake and is in grave danger from the negligent and criminal abuse she is being tortured with. Tell Representative Mr. Hank Johnson that WE THE PEOPLE as Americans are DEMANDING that he give her immediate priority as she is being tortured and abused, and he must immediately be sure she receives URGENT and ongoing excellent medical care and help, or he will be held responsible for Sherry’s murder!”

    I emailed Sherry’s husband Colin Jackson at: offering to assist him in getting emergency help for Sherry.

    I have called the FCI Coleman Med. Fed. Correctinal Inst. in Coleman, Florida at these numbers also:

    (352) 689-5000
    (352) 689-6000

    So far, I can’t get through. I will continue calling them. I want to talk to the top person there. I intend to tell them that I will be calling for the State Attorney in Florida to investigate this and their WILLFUL GROSS NEGLIGENCE and Medical Malpractice with physical and psychological torture and abuse of Sherry Peel Jackson, in civil rights violations for failing to give her immediate and ongoing medical attention, and denying her USA Constitutional Civil Rights.

    I will continue to call Coleman to let them know they are being watched and reported, and I am writing a letter to Sherry Peel Jackson giving her my help and support.


    Please write Sherry and tell her you support her and that you are going to make sure she gets immediate priority and excellent medical care, and that she is released from being held as an innocent political prisoner.

    Sherry Peel Jackson
    FCI Coleman Medium
    Federal Correctional Institution
    P.O. Box 1032
    Coleman, FL 33521


    Sherry Peel Jackson
    FCC Coleman Camp F2
    P.O. Box 1027
    Coleman, FL 33521-1027

    Alex Jones covered Sherry Peel Jackson last week on his Alex Jones live program. You can see it on YouTube. Search on YouTube “Alex Jones – Sherry Peel Jackson.” Alex made a plea for Americans to try to help save Sherry’s life because they were and are torturing Sherry illegally and immorally and they are willfully ignoring her cries for help.

  24. Patriot Dreamer

    kidmon // December 10, 2009 at 10:51 am

    It is unbelievable. I feel like I now live in bizarro word.

  25. Patriot Dreamer

    Kentucky Votes No
    A special-election warning on health care

    While the Democrat campaigned on local issues and jobs, Mr. Higdon focused relentlessly on the national controversy surrounding health care. In direct mail, TV and radio ads, the Republican stuck to variations on the theme that it was time to “end Nancy Pelosi’s one-party rule” and that “if [Kentucky’s capital] Frankfort becomes like Washington, Kentucky health care will be placed at risk.” Given the vast new Medicaid burdens that will be put on states, he is exactly right, and voters took the point.

    But the message from Kentucky is that the Pelosi-Harry Reid agenda is becoming politically toxic, …

  26. Dems think if they cram more down our throats now, instead of waiting, that it will prevent a backlash in 2010. Don’t think so…..

  27. Patriot Dreamer // December 10, 2009 at 10:59 am

    Yah, it’s bizarre alright! I pray that this will all end soon! I feel this is God’s plan to wake this Country up! Everyday more Americans are waking up. We must continue to stand for what we believe in! One Nation Under God!

  28. Patriot Dreamer

    [Senator Harry] Reid Asks Republicans for Weekend Off, Has “Big Easy” Fundraiser to Get To

    It turns out Reid has a 1,000 plus per plate fundraiser scheduled for Saturday in New Orleans, according to one local paper, which also reports that Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-LA, a key swing moderate in the health care debate, will also be in attendance.

    But Reid will not escape the health debate even in the Big Easy; the paper reports that Tea Party activists who oppose helath reform are planning to picket the fundraiser.

  29. Australia did it right with the climate scam, but they had OPPOSITION in their parliament. Our congress and senate leaders are complicit.

  30. OT…but important…

    Election 2010: Pennsylvania Senate Election
    2010 Pennsylvania Senate: Toomey With Narrow Lead Over Both Specter and Sestak

    Narrow lead? Geeeez…gotta increase that lead!
    Gotta kick ’em both to the curb and raise Toomey!
    Unless, of course, Toomey is a RINO.

  31. Patriot Dreamer

    House Democrat: Senate public option “compromise” is a total victory for fans of … single-payer

    The Mayo Clinic, which Obama once touted as a model for delivering excellent health care at lower costs, hates the Senate compromise because even they can’t make costs low enough to make Medicare viable. They lost $840 million last year on the program; expanding it, they note, would be “unsustainable” and “disastrous.”

  32. Patriot Dreamer

    “We’ll cover everyone by covering less?”

  33. Recently, a friend of mine said he heard Rush knew about Tiger’s indiscretions two years ago. When I asked how he came across that information, he said Rush said it himself. Can anyone verify this? Not that I care about Tiger but if this is true, how much does Rush know about pp that he isn’t saying?

    My friend is an avid Limbaugh fan, and I can see why he holds Rush in high esteem. However, I will not lend any credence to anything Mr. Limbaugh says until he stands up for our Republic. Otherwise, what he says is moot to me!


  34. Article I, Sec. 8, U.S. Constitution, shows that the enumerated powers delegated to the “federal” government are confined to war, a few aspects of commerce (strictly defined), immigration, delivery of our mail, and the establishment of a uniform commercial system (bankruptcy, a monetary system, punishment of counterfeiting, a standard of weights and measures, and issuance of patents and copyrights). That’s basically it!

    The federal government has no authority under The Constitution to require us to buy any kind of insurance. As Madison said, it is the States which retain an “inviolable sovereignty” over “the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people”. It is THE STATES which have required drivers to purchase auto insurance! The federal government has no authority under The Constitution to require us to buy any kind of insurance.

  35. Obama Approval Index History

    Guess Mr. Peace Prize Man isn’t doing too well here.

  36. NancyDrew // December 10, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Dems think if they cram more down our throats now, instead of waiting, that it will prevent a backlash in 2010. Don’t think so…..


    Nancy….That is the angle they are using to convince fellow DemoCRAPS that they need to push everything through and that is why they lost the house and senate back when they were trying to pass Hillary Care….NOT>….that is why they did lose everything….because they were trying to take over health care then~~~

  37. Barack Obama, General Disaster?

    By Larry Johnson

    December 9, 2009

  38. On Atlas Shrugs today…..There has been a statue of O in Jakarta, Indonesia revealed. He is shown as a child with a big round medallion around his neck, what could that be representing?

  39. What I don’t understand re: Global Warming is-if Al Gore, George Soros are such great believers why don’t they use their own money instead of shilling for OPM (Other Peoples Money). Considering the ghosts of Enron-Ken Lay have input into this is “chilling” in itself.
    No legislation in any country should go forward until Climagate has been investigated further. The little that is known has shown fraud on a massive scale. None are to be trusted at this point. We need another fraud like we need a hole in our head.

  40. Obama’s National Security Cuddle

    Warning: Pix…Barf Alert!

  41. SueK-would you believe it is in the high 80’s down here in Florida and may hit 90. Saw the storm on TV last night-it was huge-big winds-white outs. I had to drive in a white out once in Chicago-it was horrible. No up, no down, no right, no left, could see so very little-and I was first in line.

  42. UN Resolution Would Criminalize Christianity – Islam is on the march


  43. Christian Couple Hauled into British Court for Insulting Islam..

  44. ms helga:

    Did you read the comment from poster 2 on your referenced article? Here it is…

    Reply 2 – Posted by: pinger, 12/10/2009 10:22:40 AM (No. 6091173)

    “A good place to start correcting this would be to build a max security prison with 535 cells; put the 535 names on each of the cell doors in advance;then walk the 535 most corrupt people in our country through the facility and show them where their new homes will be when they get caught.”


  45. Frightening!

    The Destruction of America from Within: a 100 year project – 10 STEPS to serfdom

  46. 5 Terrorists Arrested At Copenhagen Junk Science Summit…December 8, 2009

  47. Did you all see that strange spiral in the sky seen in Norway? Coincidence b.o. was there? I’m surprised Lame Cherry didn’t write about it.

  48. If someone thinks while they continue to prop up Obama as someone who is “too big to fail”- partial list buildings, companies and people-as they pop into my head.
    New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina-the levees broke-city survived Hurricane very well.
    The Twin Towers
    Napoleon-Hitler tried to unite Europe under their personal dictatorships-invaded Russia-late summer-killed millions.
    Enron, General Motors, AIG, Chrysler (twice?)
    Tiger Woods 83 per cent 56 per cent 38 per cent in two weeks-just saw that.
    On some level everyone knows right from wrong-they may attempt to deaden their consciences-drugs, alcohol, power etc. but they do know right from wrong.
    I don’t want the Constitution of the United States of America to fail. The entire country soon will have a new respect for it.
    What if those who are abusing the Constitution today, are on the other side of it-today, I’m sure that they will be screaming for their Constitutional rights. I guess you could say our eternally vigilant Constitution protects and serves.

  49. NancyDrew-whatever it was it was very cool. It must have been very cold there. Interesting phenomenon? I can’t wait to find out if it was natural or the Russians did have a rocket blow up.


    Media Mogul, Swine Flue and Global Warming agenda…connected…

  51. Nancy Drew-one commentator elsewhere thought this might be a Tesla thing and accused Tesla of being a Russian scientist. He was not. He was Austro-Hungarian like me and is a naturalized American citizen. Scientists are still working on trying to figure out Tesla’s inventions because they are still very advanced.
    Tesla was a great believer in free energy hence those who support Copenhagen would have giant problems with him. NO PROFIT.
    Dr. Nikola Tesla was an inventor who obtained around 300 patents[1] worldwide for his inventions. Some of Dr. Tesla’s patents are not accounted for, and various sources have discovered some that have lain hidden in patent archives. There are a minimum of 278 patents[1] issued to Dr. Tesla in 26 countries that have been accounted for. Many of Dr. Tesla’s patents were in the United States, Britain, and Canada, but many other patents were approved in countries around the globe. Many inventions developed by Dr. Tesla were not put into patent protection[2].
    Nikola Tesla, the “man who invented the twentieth century,” was born July 10, 1856, at Smiljan, Lika province (in modern Croatia), a part of the expiring Empire of Austro–Hungary.
    Tesla was a pioneer in many fields. The Tesla coil, which he invented in 1891, is widely used today in radio and television sets and other electronic equipment. That year also marked the date of Tesla’s United States citizenship.

  52. Patriot Dreamer

    This is creepy: Canadian newspaper (The Financial Post) article argues that the whole world needs to adopt China’s one-child policy:

  53. 🙂 They are the first one I send each year…
    Hee Hee Hee Hee…..

    The ACLU
    125 Broad Street
    18th Floor
    New York, NY 10004

  54. Kim………………………………………….

    Australia has it right,when they ADVISED the MUSLIM ALLEGED immigrants that Australia would NOT change their LANGUAGE, their RELIGION,or their way of life to accomodate the MUSLIMS who constantly whine that they should be accomodated. Further Australia’s President advised the Muslim population that if they did not like the Australian conditions into which they themselves placed themselves that they have the option of leaving forthwith, and that the government would assist .

  55. Michelle // December 10, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Hey Michelle,

    Knock it off with the ‘upper 80’s’ will ya? 🙂

    OK, so FL has global warming; apparently, that’s the only spot!

    Wasn’t too bad here (just a sloppy mess, with thunder!) but the Midwest got clocked. We get nailed with ocean storms (‘Nor’easters’) so this one was small potatoes, but it did make a mess.

    Thawing out and melting today, getting ready for the flash freeze tonight.

  56. SueK-I was thinking about all the folks getting socked by this storm. I never had a problem shoveling the powdery fluffy stuff, but the wet heavy stuff forget it. Most of the time is was light and powdery-I saw big winds. Illinois finally got smart, when a big storm like this was on the way the Governor closed down all the roads-go home-stay there, that way the plows could go do their work and things could reopen much faster. They just didn’t have the personnel to go rescue everybody. The Flash freeze’s aren’t fun, hopefully it will warm up quick. We might break a record today 90 due to date and there is a wayward mosquito in here that is going to be flat as a pancake when I find her.

  57. As the spotlight moves away from the Fort Hood massacre, one of America’s most openly radical Islamist organizations has taken to the murderer’s defense. As-Sabiqun, a Washington D.C.-based organization with branches in four other major American cities, released a flyer labeling shooter Nidal Malik Hasan as “victimized” and the “target of psychological warfare.” The handout also defended convicted terrorists and suspects.

    Read more at:

  58. This is a fabulous video on CO2 and it’s effects on our planet. Short and to the point. Found it at Lord Monckton’s blog. I think I have a crush on him…LOL.

  59. Don in California

    From: Barney Frank
    Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:11pm
    Subject: GOP Masquerade

    Friend —

    The extremists who control the Republican Party have engaged in one of the most implausible masquerades in history by trying to identify themselves with the American Colonials who revolted against British rule.

    In fact, as I prepare to go to the floor of the House this week to defend a package of tough financial reforms and consumer and investor protections, I confront a hostile, virtually unanimous Republican Party, which has a major characteristic in common with a different set of eighteenth century figures – the kings of France. When the French monarchy was restored to power in the 19th century, it was said that “The Bourbons have forgotten nothing because they learned nothing.”

    Current House Republicans now oppose financial regulation because they have learned nothing from the current economic crisis.

    From: “Jon Vogel, DCCC Executive Director”

    The dems are getting desperate when they use Barney! HA!

  60. Yes, to add to the meriment we had 16 below zero last night. Quite balmy today though. it’s up to -8 right now. Cheers!

  61. Jacqlyn Smith-Nidal Malik Hasan is a murderer.
    Radical Islamist organizations have more in common with Hitler’s SS than anything else.
    d21-Gore etc. should not have lied. Great video, simple, understandable.

  62. All-if you google Old Farmers Almanac you can find out when this is going to break loose.

  63. Don in California

    I don’t know what everyone is complaining about, it’s only 60 degrees here and I am about to put on my longjohns. hehe

  64. Btw, yes, of course Rush, Sean, Sarah, Glenn and the rest of the conservatives know that zero is ineligible. They’d have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to know.

    The question is “Why aren’t they reporting on it” or “pontificating on it?” There is a reason for their silence.

    Have you also noticed the wall of silence emanating from the right as it relates to jbjd’s efforts, the plethora of lawsuits challenging eligibility or other related lawsuits? Why is the RNC, Michael Steele, and his cronies silent?
    We know about McCain’s trickery so what’s the big deal? He didn’t win so it’s no biggie, right?

    A’sG in six states have either ignored or remained silent on the election fraud. Why is that? This type of investigation by state AG’s makes peoples careers. Why the silence?

    I’ve been stumped coming up with an answer. There has to be a reason for this b/c the AG complaint is factually solid AND it has the potential to uproot the socialist/fascist disease currently plaguing DC. Am I to believe that the Republican’s are socialist/fascist too? All of them?

    CW – you might want to do billboards addressing the leadership in Congress – Cantor and Boehner AND the six state AGs who have been mum on the complaints filed to date. I know what I’m getting ready to do will jolt my AG and the establishment but will it equate into action? answers? I don’t know. I’m hopeful. We’ll have to wait and see.

    But IMHO the entire R apparatus is silent on the issue. All of them. Why?


    New poll finds that 20% of all voters are in favor of impeaching Obama

  66. Not My President

    Wow, Sean Hannity mentioned WND? That’s a pleasant surprise!
    CW, keep up the good work, keep asking the question, day after day after day. It’s such a simple question, isn’t it? Obama, where’s your long form B.C.?

  67. All you Christmas lovers have got to view this awesome vimeo. You’ll love it!!!

  68. Patriot Dreamer

    d2i // December 10, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    A possible theory is that maybe they think it is better for BO to fail on his own merits. Look at what BO/Reid/Pelosi have done in just a few short months to really energize people in this country. And to get people to realize that it’s not really about the blue team (Dems) vs. the red team (Repubs) like elections are some kind of football game to be played once every 2 years with the Superbowl once every 4 years.

    I don’t really know. It’s just a theory.

  69. Patriot Dreamer

    Glenn Beck and U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky’s
    husband trade jabs:
    Robert Creamer strikes back after TV host cites his criminal record,0,2875575.story

  70. here are more Christmas vimeo’s. they are so much fun and will connect you with that little kid inside. Enjoy!

  71. zachjonesishome // December 10, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Good Morning – It’s freezing here. I sure could use a little global warming. I put your post up. Zach
    Zach, same here in Ky…last night, 22, tonight 19!!!

    All unable to stay warm and housed at this time are in my prayers.
    God bless those who help the needy.

  72. Patriot Dreamer

    d2i, nice Christmas lights! Thank you for sharing!

  73. zachjonesishome

    John Charlton – I heard the 20% for impeachment on Rush today. WOW!

  74. Oldsalt, I’m brushing up on my Australian accent!
    It sounds especially good since Wisconsin is like a freezer that needs intensive defrosting!

  75. PD – it’s as good a theory as any.

    I find their silence deafening which gives me an odd feeling. One I am unaccustomed to having.

    Maybe I’m being a bit impatient and wish for this madness to end now. My greatest fear is that given a couple of more months of the assault by 0 on our nations psyche and pocketbook will be too late. I don’t want to rely on them to do what is right BUT they are the only game in town. Therefore, I have too but I lack trust and faith with the majority of them. The game ended when 0 was sworn in and we cannot give this cabal three more years. We simply cannot afford to do this otherwise all of us will be living in other countries starting all over again.

    Their silence honestly frightens me.

  76. Patriot Dreamer

    Reid version of ObamaCare would slam middle class

    No wonder Harry Reid wants to end debate on the bill. Keith Hennessey reviews the data from the Joint Committee on Taxation and discovers that while a small set of middle-class earners will have to spend less on insurance premiums, over 68 million will have to pay more — a lot more. Only a quarter of that number will see a net benefit:

  77. LOL, Kim. Australia? Damn, I need to start reading up on the country. May be the place we all retreat to.

  78. Don in California

    Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid of Obama’s Latest Big Brother Plan
    By Bradley Blakeman
    Why the White House and Democrats’ plans to expand the Office of Personnel Management should scare all Americans.
    The Obama administration seeks to empower a very powerful government agency you have probably never heard of with new and expanded powers that will have a direct consequence on every American if they are successful in their efforts to implement national health care reforms.
    The Obama White House is also drunk with power and is seeking to expand the powers of government agencies to oversee and act out to affect Americans in ways that this country has never seen before.
    What is the Office of Personnel and Management and why should you care?
    The Office of Personnel Management, (OPM), is suppose to be an independent government agency that is charged with managing the civil service system of the federal government. If you are a federal employee then civil service laws, rules and regulations that are managed by OPM govern you. One of the main charges of OPM is to administer and oversee federal health care provided to all federal employees.
    The Director of OPM is appointed directly by the president and confirmed by the Democratically controlled Senate. The current director of OPM is a fellow by the name of John Berry who, before becoming OPM director this past year, was director of the Smithsonian’s National Zoo. — You cannot make this stuff up.
    Under the Democrats’ national health care scheme not only would OPM be charged with overseeing and administering federal employees health care but they will have the added charge of administering civilian federal health care as well. What does that mean? Basically, that Americans will be treated as “civil servants.” Are you starting to see the danger?
    This is also the agency that does background checks for security clearances.

  79. Patriot Dreamer

    d2i, I think that we are all impatient!

  80. Delray Beach had some troubles re: Holiday Tree to us Roman Catholics Christmas Tree-finally the Jewish people are going to have the Menorah YEAH. I found Christmas to be much to commercialized years ago, I go with the spiritual side of things. The Salesian fathers are doing their miracle of the loaves and fishes, your donation is multiplied by 20 times to feed the poor (non-denominational poor)-something with COMIDE-a Belgian outfit. I don’t know how the padres do it.
    Updated: 8:57 a.m. Thursday, Dec. 10, 2009
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    DELRAY BEACH — The city’s absent menorah will be replaced, and just in time for Hanukkah.
    After a city commissioner and several citizens complained that the city had omitted its usual menorah from the display at Old School Square in downtown, city staff members spent all day today searching for a rental menorah.
    And, befitting a holiday about miracles, the menorah rental company, Brandano Displays of Margate, decided to waive the rental fee. The menorah will be on display for the rest of the year near the 100-foot Christmas tree in Old School Square at Atlantic and Swinton avenues.
    “I’m thrilled we were able to do this,” said Mayor Woodie McDuffie, tired but happy after a long but finally successful day of menorah hunting. “You can find menorahs all over the Internet, but try to get one delivered by Friday. We are very grateful.”
    Hanukkah is the eight-day Jewish festival commemorating a 2,200-year-old miracle when one jar of purified menorah oil kept the candelabrum alight for eight days. It begins at sundown on Friday.
    The menorah is to be installed Friday morning at Old School Square, and lighted at a 5 p.m. ceremony attended by city officials and other dignitaries.
    The city found itself in an awkward position on Monday, after a sponsor of the city’s holiday celebration complained to a city commissioner that the menorah the city had displayed since 2006 had disappeared. It turned out that a temple sponsoring the menorah had withdrawn.
    At a regular commission meeting on Tuesday, Commissioner Adam Frankel and several residents objected, McDuffie apologized to the Jewish people of the area and agreed that the situation needed to be rectified.
    By this morning the hunt was on. After city staff talked to several companies, Brandano emerged as the one most likely to get the job done, then its owner, Pat Brandano, decided to do the job for free.
    Frankel, on vacation, said by phone, “We saved Hanukkah!”

  81. d2i,

    here’s a site for you to check out. I found the link posted on Wayne Madsen Report forum. I actually posted a blurb on one of the threads here yesterday about Wal Mart and the Rockefeller/Red Chinese connection.

    I was in the garment industry – an early career – for a number of years. Wal Mart single handedly changed that industry and as such, closed down many of the apparel marts. It has long been known they were responsible for the demise of a healthy, vibrant industry here in the U.S. Sadly, I didn’t connect the dots until now.

    There’s a LOT more info on this site than WalMart. I know you’ll find it interesting and worthwhile.

  82. d2i and Kim,

    FYI: Australia is much worse than here. They are well into their own “hope and change” dictatorship – just a step ahead of us. We checked it out for ourselves.

  83. d21, let’s get the SS Citizen Wells ready to embark!

    “G’day, Fosters: Australian for beer, shrimp on the barby…”

  84. Patriot Dreamer

    “You Will Lose Your Private Health Insurance”

    Before Thanksgiving, the Senate voted to opening debate on President Obama’s health-care bill, and that debate has begun in earnest this week.

    Well, if they want a debate, let’s let them have it. But let’s not get distracted by the sideshows Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has planned for us.

  85. Patriot Dreamer

    Exclusive Interview: Andrew Breitbart Announces Launch of New “Big” Sites

  86. JustMe, Australia is kicking out the Islamists if they can’t live with the country’s ideals and fighting against the global warmists, IMO they are effectively doing battle against their statists.

    I DON’T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AMERICA IS UNRECOGNIZABLE. We need FIERCE opposition and we need it now. We have to unite against the tyranny that grows daily in a targeted, concerted effort!

  87. Just Me – thanks for the tip. I will enjoy reading that site. Looks chock full of goodies.

    Have you by chance kept up with Christopher Story’s posts? If not, you should. They are about the only thing giving me any hope right now. If you lost the link it’s worldreports dot org. Christopher’s updates are at the top. The 12/8 update was interesting. Anxiously awaiting a full report though.

  88. kidmon // December 10, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Off Topic – Does anyone have the SCLU’s address? I’m sening cards out today. I have a beautiful card with a Nativity Scene stating the reason for the season and MERRY CHRISMAS!

    I lost the address!

    Can anyone help?

    125 Broad Street
    18th Floor
    New York , NY 10004

  89. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Christ-mas blessings and mild temps to all. 🙂 debunks Reid’s statement of “consensus” on the bogus bill.

    (Scroll down to “Wednesday, Dec. 9)

    Democrats Say They “Haven’t Signed On To The Proposal,” “There’s No Specific Compromise,” “I Will Not Vote For It” And Opposition “Remains”

    Phone numbers are also listed for the dissenting Dems.

    SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): “This Has Been A Long Journey. We Have Confronted Many Hurdles, And Tonight I Believe We Have Overcome Yet Another One. … [We] Have Come To A Consensus.” (Sen. Reid, Press Release, 12/8/09) —– NOT ———

  90. I think trying to expose the BC/NBC issue by any known icon, a celebrity, a world-renowned radio host is maybe the wrong strategy…….they have much to lose.
    Someone with no job, no money, no family has nothing to lose; therefore, maybe therein lies our Moses??

  91. #

    JJ // December 10, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I think trying to expose the BC/NBC issue by any known icon, a celebrity, a world-renowned radio host is maybe the wrong strategy…….they have much to lose.
    Someone with no job, no money, no family has nothing to lose; therefore, maybe therein lies our Moses??

    JJ….What about the guy who just got out of prison…..I think his name is Traffacant or something similar…..Greta interviewed him when he was first released! He hates the government!

  92. zachjonesishome

    JJ – I agree. Any ideas about who?

    Blago? He’s probably looking for a pardon in 2012.

  93. Kim,

    Not trying to rain on your parade. And, I don’t disagree with you about the issue with Islamists. It’s a huge and noble move. But, Rudd’s agenda is very dictatorial. He ran on the same platform as “O” – Hope and Change. He is a progressive and favors corporations/labor movement. Exactly as “O” does.

    We had seriously considered a move there after “O” was elected. After researching, we decided to stay put.

  94. Patriot Dreamer

    Statue of Obama as boy erected in Indonesian park

    pic and article at:

  95. Attention Democrat republicans, senators, and governors…….CAN YOU HEAR US NOW???

    In his private meetings with Democrats, President Obama’s health-care argument has come down to an appeal to make “history” (see above).

    He’d be more candid if he said that if they vote for the current bills many of them soon will be history.

    That’s the warning from the unlikely quarter of Tuesday’s special state senate election in Kentucky that became a referendum on the Democratic agenda in Washington, especially health care.

    Voters in the 14th District elected Republican Jimmy Higdon over Democrat Jodie Haydon by 12 points. That’s significant in a district that leans Democratic by more than 2 to 1, and where Democrats and their allies spent more than $1 million, perhaps twice what the GOP did.

  96. d2i,

    no, I haven’t kept up with his posts. Thanks for the reminder and the link. I’ll have a look now.

    I immediately thought of you when I found that site. I’ve been immersed in the info there for a few days now.

  97. Jacqlyn Smith // December 10, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    zachjonesishome // December 10, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    I have no ideas…….but I know one thing and ‘mark it in your little day book’ as my granny used to say……….if it gets worse, there will plenty with nothing to lose and let the games begin.

    The reference to Blago…..with the a**hole in the WH now…….consider him pardoned.

    My America, how sad, how very sad.
    As Jackie has mentioned several times, failure to pay IRS, or national taxes will reek havoc on this government financial infrastructure; there is more than one way to skin a cat.

  98. I just got off the phone with Jeff Katz on WFTL in the Fort Lauderdale, FL
    area. Jeff used to be on WBT radio in Charlotte NC. Jeff was one of the few in the
    media asking the hard hitting questions about Obama.

  99. DenisetheMenace

    I’ve had a thought that keeps coming back to me at all different times. I’ve started talking about it to friends and family (to varying degrees). Just to throw this out there for anyone’s comment.

    There has to be a reason (besides environmental lobby) that our government (dems and reps) keep making our oil rich(gas rich, shale rich) areas off limits to drilling etc….

    China has us by the short hairs because of our debt to them…….
    China is out there buying up mineral (and other) resources at record rates…….

    It is possible that our oil/gas resources are being used as a “secret” collateral for these loans?

    What are your thoughts? I know I’m not a deep thinker so I’m just throwing this out for comment.

  100. Kim // December 10, 2009 at 11:26 am

    The federal government has no authority under The Constitution to require us to buy any kind of insurance. As Madison said, it is the States which retain an “inviolable sovereignty” over “the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people”. It is THE STATES which have required drivers to purchase auto insurance! The federal government has no authority under The Constitution to require us to buy any kind of insurance.
    Which is why we have this:

    U.S. Constitution: Tenth Amendment
    Tenth Amendment – Reserved Powers to the States
    Amendment Text
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

  101. JustMe, point taken.

    Unfortunately it looks to me like all of the developed country’s governments are being run by the same corporations and banks and elite families and it is the resistance that I am looking to them that I am looking at.

  102. On some level everyone knows right from wrong-they may attempt to deaden their consciences-drugs, alcohol, power etc. but they do know right from wrong.
    Michelle, here I must disagree with you……their perception of right and wrong is completely a 180 than ours.

  103. Sorry, got interrupted and mispoke:
    It is the resistance to these policies/governments that I am looking at.

  104. Linda in NY,
    About Rush saying he knew about Tiger Woods over 2 years ago, I heard him say that early this week on his show, and had to think “he must know about Obama and says nothing just like with Tiger.

  105. Patriot Dreamer,I see the statue shows Obama in his current stage of life, a ten year old. Very fitting.

  106. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK, when you get the chance, can you take a look at the following article (re: vaccines):


  107. Rush is fully aware of Obama’s circumstances, why he doesn’t concentrate on Obama’s lack of eligibility, I don’t know. We keep hearing that they know something we don’t know. I am starting to believe they know nothing. I would like to ask Carl Rove about Obama, and get his opinion of why the government won’t address the NBC issue. I think they are afraid of the racial backlash.

  108. Patriot Dreamer // December 10, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Hi PD,

    Got it, and agree.

    There has to be some sort of ‘disruption’ mechanism to allow diseases like autism to take hold. This article makes perfect sense. Will follow the research.

    On another flu-related note, reports of adverse reactions to the H1N1 vaccine have started to come in from Europe notable, Ireland.

    Baxter’s over there. Are we surprised?

  109. DenisetheMenace // December 10, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    BINGO!!!! Again, this idea is surfacing…….I believe Jackie and I agreed, Hillary has been a bad girl……..she may have given away more than our national parks.

  110. notable=notably.


  111. JJ-what I mean is they know right from wrong. Good v/s evil. You have to pick which way in life you are going to go. Seems like those who choose evil, along the way have to deaden their consciences with something. Money wouldn’t cut for me or really any material thing.

  112. Part of me believes the reason Rush, Insanity, Beck, Oreilly, etc. won’t bring up the eligibility issue, is because they know it will be an immediate end to his presidency.

    I believe they’re running their own little sick political agenda, in letting Obama stay in office, to destroy the democratic party for years to come.

    This is a very dangerous game these people are playing by not exposing now before he ruins the country.

  113. PD, I had commented on the statue at 11:39 and was wondering what is the medallion around his neck representing?

  114. Patriot Dreamer

    carmen, I’m sorry. I missed your earlier post. I think that it’s supposed to represent his Nobel Peace Prize? And I guess the statue is supposed to be an inspiration to the little kids there about what they could achieve.

  115. Some bad news from the treasonous grand jury who refused to indict the treasonous usurper. These people really don’t like our country that much.

  116. The South
    “I believe they’re running their own little sick political agenda, in letting Obama stay in office, to destroy the democratic party for years to come.” As a registered Democrat when I heard that Donna Brazile-(we have to destroy the Democratic party in order to…) linked up with Karl Rove, it was my first indication that something was up/different. Then the DNC had their fraud convention, with all the back up fraud-Hillary won, but was out. If Karl Rove did this truly a plot worthy of Machiavelli-if the DNC was dumb/corrupt enough to fall for it what can I say-Karl Rove eliminates competition for a long, long time. In this convoluted, corrupt political gamesmanship I don’t see why one American citizen should have to suffer for political struggles or whatever they are doing. I wish I knew- so much fishy “stuff” going on something is rotten in Denmark and a few other countries.

  117. Kim,

    I understand what you’re saying. The web is wide, and the machine is mean.

  118. Patriot Dreamer

    Howard Dean Says it is “Irrelevant” if a “Public Option” is in the Senate Health Care Bill – Video

  119. tennbrock:

    I think they all know [Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and O’Reilly] about pp, but dare not say. All of them are subsidized by dubious owners who will make money no matter what. However, if their cash cow is exposed, they will be exposed as well.

    It appears their jobs are more important than our country. And…they are the elite; none of what happens will affect them.

    That is why I do not listen to their talk shows; they all make a big deal out of nothing important.


  120. Patriot Dreamer:

    Howard Dean is Irrelevant!

    Happy Night…Linda

  121. South not true. They won’t bring it up because of the 1 percent zoombies that follow the one. About 1 million would riot so its not the right time yet

  122. Patriot Dreamer @ 4:11, thank you for the link on autism and vaccines. My son has Asperger’s and the “Autism Specialist” at his public school denied any correlation between the two when I asked her what she thought. She’s getting a copy of this!!!

  123. PD you are right the country is tipping back to center right and people who vote him have seen the light!


    Tonight, hosts Red Beckman and Terry Dodd will be joined by the President of CC2009, Michael Badnarik. In addition to discussing the Continental Congress and the Articles of Freedom with Michael, Red & Terry will talk about the difference between True Patriots and a False Patriots. Phone lines will be open at the end of the first half hour for questions and comments. Join us on the stream, in the chat room or on the phone. Show time is 9 pm Eastern or 7 pm Mountain, December 10, 2009. Here’s the link:

    Call in number is 347-838-9176 If you are not near a computer, you may call in and just listen or hit 1 to ask a question.

    A little background – Terry Dodd is a delegate from CO to the Continental Congress. Dr. Kate is the delegate from WY.

    Michael Badnarik was recently elected as the President of the Continental Congress 2009 which convened in St. Charles, Illinois from November 11th through November 22nd. Tonight, Michael will be discussing the Continental Congress, what was accomplished and the soon to be released Articles of Freedom.
    At the urging of friends, as well as students of his popular “Introduction to the Constitution” class, in February 2003 Michael decided to run for President. To secure the Libertarian Party nomination, he traveled over 25,000 miles campaigning across the U.S. in the 15 months leading up to the Party’s National Convention in Atlanta. Although Michael was clearly the underdog, he won the nomination after three close ballots.
    Michael continued his underdog status in the national campaign. Despite appearing on the ballot in 48 states, more than Ralph Nader, as his candidacy was blacked out by the mainstream media. Frustrated by the bipartisan control of the electoral process, he tried to serve process papers on Commission on Presidential Debates officials in a lawsuit protesting the exclusion of significant third party candidates from the debates. Badnarik and David Cobb, the Green Party nominee, were arrested and handcuffed attempting to peacefully cross the police line surrounding the St. Louis debate. Despite this unprecedented challenge to the legitimacy of the debates, the media virtually censored this story.
    While on the campaign trail, Michael found time to write a book about the Constitution entitled Good To Be King The Foundations of Freedom. U.S. Representative Ron Paul (R-TX), known for his integrity and independent views, wrote the forward. Good To Be King is only available in hardcover, and for the time being, only on this website.
    Badnarik first began studying the Constitution in 1983, while managing the Braidwood Nuclear Simulator project. In his next assignment, he earned a Secret Security clearance at the Northrop facility charged with developing the Stealth Bomber. His next challenge was training hundreds of employees to use state-of-the-art computer systems at PG&Es Diablo Canyon nuclear plant. His natural talent for speaking and teaching led him to develop his Constitution class.

  125. In Oslo: Was that the Queen of Sheba or
    the Jolly Green Giant (female version)?
    Just couldn’t help myself comment…

    I have tried numerous times to call in on Rush’s
    line—always busy, never have gotten through.
    Is Snerdly his “screener”?

    No plans here to go to Australia. May consider
    Canada (but don’t want the cold frankly).

    On “global warming”… We have it here in
    Ohio; it’s called “global freezing” (high winds,
    cold, and flurries). Al Gore is nuts!
    Pakistan has info on Americans who went
    to Pakistan and are suspected of plotting
    terrorist activities. Rick Sanchez, CNN,
    said our FBI may have “missed” this one.

    Now, do we all feel a bit more secure—Pakistan
    doing BETTER than we at discovering
    American terrorists. Oh JOY! NOT!
    If you want a city that says “Merry Christmas”
    or “Joyeux Noel”—go to Montreal where
    300 creches (nativity scenes) are on display
    at the St. Joseph’s Oratory Museum.

  126. On Acorn receiving more funding, Pamela Geller writes:
    America is broken. Period. if those thieving pigs are still eligible for my and your hard earned taxpayer dollars, we are on life support and the patient is very sick. And Obama[care] so ain’t the cure, it’s the cancer.

    We are quickly reaching the point where the charade that the statist looters running Washington represent the people they rob, suppress, and exploit can be dispensed with altogether.

  127. I say that those who will not “raise” the simple question posted here above on this blog
    are NOT true Patriots, no matter who they are
    and how much we have revered them in the past.
    This issue is about our Country’s Salvation!
    There can be NO EXCEPTIONS!

  128. …just as strong, just as powerful, just as well funded…Well, here it is.

    A Stability Police Force for the United States

    Click to access RAND_MG819.pdf

  129. DenisetheMenace

    OK – this is what I was linking to yesterday about the supposed “supermajority” of the senate to bind us in treaty is under attack by pres. Obama in Copenhagen. He does not have to go through this.
    Link below as it is explained by Lord Monckton.

    He is going to make an “agreement” as an executive order and send it thru congress with a simple majority (needs only 51 votes in the senate).

    Looking for my duct tape again……

  130. Don in California

    “Badnarik ………In his next assignment, he earned a Secret Security clearance at the Northrop facility charged with developing the Stealth Bomber.”
    I also worked there in Pico Rivera, CA. The facility started as a Ford Motor Co. plant. It was an interesting time.

  131. Something interesting just came on our local news. Texting-Tiger Woods text’s “too graphic” for local news, but a divorce lawyer came on and said it may take awhile in divorce cases but they can subpoena the carriers and get the text. So with all the hackers- Obama must be very worried re: his Blackberry. The lawyer said this “stuff” electronic transmissions never go away.?????

  132. JustMe // December 10, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    …just as strong, just as powerful, just as well funded…Well, here it is.

    A Stability Police Force for the United States

    Click to access RAND_MG819.pdf


    Thanks for the link. It’s interesting.

  133. Upstate Warrior

    It looks like it’s been in the works for some time, huh? I’m guessing most likely it could be traced back to the Bush regime or even beyond. As I’m sure you know these things don’t happen over night. We just happened to get it put upon us overnight.

    The copyright on this document is 2009.

  134. Wells,

    I cannot find a contact e-mail for jbjd.

    Do you have one I can use, or can you send it to me through my e-mail address?

    Many Thanks.

  135. 1991 UN Policy Paper Describes Exact Purpose and Trajectory of Current Copenhagen Treaty

    Article here:

    A 1991 policy paper prepared for the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) by self-described ‘ecosocioeconomist’ professor Ignacy Sachs outlines a strategy for the transfer of wealth in name of the environment to be implemented in the course of 35 to 40 years. As it turns out, it is a visionary paper describing phase by phase the road to world dictatorship.

  136. DenisetheMenace, it is interesting what Christopher Monckton has to say about Barry’s plans in using an executive order to get around the senate having to ratify a Copenhagen treaty.

    Things are coming to a head right now. I don’t see the American people putting up much longer with Barry and his cohorts. Americans have been extremely peaceful in dealing with this communist usurping false POTUS; but it seems peaceful means are not working in stopping Barry from continuing in his criminal actions against the citizens of the United States.

  137. YO OBAMA !

    ATLANTA — Swine flu has sickened about 50 million Americans, and killed about 10,000, according to new estimates released by federal health officials on Thursday.

  138. Mr Clean @ 7:06pm
    So the death rate is exactly the same as the regular flu, and the same amount of people have caught the flu as well? Interesting why this flu should be broadcast so much more

  139. Why are these figures coming out now Mr Clean?

    I guess to scare everyone into running toward and accepting Obamacare.

    WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  141. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Kim // December 10, 2009 at 11:26 am

    The federal government has no authority under The Constitution to require us to buy any kind of insurance.
    Exactly!! Talk about misdirection and manipulation. By opposing the bill “on its merits,” even our Congress is tacitly agreeing that the government DOES have a right to offer such a bill.

    The real answer, as you have pointed out, is: NO. The Congress has no jurisdiction in this matter. This bill cannot legally be enacted or implemented by the federal government, period. No debate.

    The problem, as with everything else, is to get people to believe the facts. Sigh.

  142. GBAmerica // December 10, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Hi GB,

    Tell me why the hell we need a ‘Muslim Outreach Director?’

  143. Don in California

    c.n.d.e. ville II // December 10, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Kim // December 10, 2009 at 11:26 am

    The federal government has no authority under The Constitution to require us to buy any kind of insurance.
    Exactly!! Talk about misdirection and manipulation. By opposing the bill “on its merits,” even our Congress is tacitly agreeing that the government DOES have a right to offer such a bill.
    Don’t forget, obama can not legally sign any law. He is NOT a legal President.

  144. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Linda from NY // December 10, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Barack Obama, General Disaster?

    “These morons in the White House are issuing orders and not paying attention to what they are ordering . . . . . I am currently at Fort Bragg, North Carolina and the Army officers I’m talking to are genuinely appalled by this news. They have never seen anything this clueless from the chain of command.”

    “This is inexcusable and should scare the living hell out of every American. The Commander-in-Chief is a shallow clown who apparently forgets the content of the orders he issues on a critical national security matter.”
    author — Larry Johnson
    Thank you, Larry Johnson! Please, tell the officers at ALL of our bases.

    What’s even scarier, Mr. Johnson, is that the “shallow clown” is not even a Constitutional CinC. He is a usurping fraud.

    I believe our military needs to know that fact as well, don’t you, Mr. Johnson?

  145. Sue K,
    I don’t know why??People need to start waking up!This government knew all along!The more I read ,how in the world could they not.First of all by our constitution he can’t hold office due to his father being foreign.BOTH PARENTS CAN NOT HAVE ANY FOREIGN ALLEGIANCE.HIS FATHER HELD KENYAN ALLEGIANCE.This was put there to protect OUR country.What is so hard to understand?I just don’t get it at all.

  146. c.n.d.e. ville II

    GBAmerica and Sue K. —

    One word:

    (okay, okay, I can’t. I said I wouldn’t. But . . but … but.. I can’t resist the temptation…..okay, I’m restraining myself … with much effort.)

    (Ssshhh. Don’t tell I said so. Hint: the word starts with “p”.)

  147. GBAmerica // December 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    GB, of course they know; they ALL know. I just wonder what the powerful constraints are that are causing everyone to remain mum on the issue, while Patriotic Americans become more frustrated with the constant news blackout. My gut feeling is money.

    I just wonder what it’ll take.

    There was a sign at the D.C. Tea Party that read ‘We come to Washington unarmed. This time.’

    Is that what it’ll take? Is that what they *want* us to do?

  148. John Bingham confirms that understanding and the construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:”[4] [5] [6]

    “ [I] find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…. . . ”

    – John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866 (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

    Go to Wiki site,put in John Bingham,it’s right there!Parents not oweing foreign allegiance!

  149. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Don in California // December 10, 2009 at 8:08 pm
    Exactly THAT, too! Double jeopardy. You gotta wonder WHY we are spending so much time, effort, and emotion on this DOA bogus bunk of a bill.

  150. SueK,
    I’m starting to believe that is what they want.


    The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

    The second fold is a symbol of our belief in the eternal life.

    The third fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veteran departing our ranks who gave a portion of life for the defense of our country to attain a peace throughout the world.

    The fourth fold represents our weaker nature, for as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him we turn in times of peace as well as in times of war for His divine guidance.

    The fifth fold is a tribute to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right; but it is still our country, right or wrong.”

    The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

    The seventh fold is a tribute to our Armed Forces, for it is through the Armed Forces that we protect our country and our flag against all her enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.

    The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered in to the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor mother, for whom it flies on mother’s day.

    The ninth fold is a tribute to womanhood; for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great have been molded.

    The tenth fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since they were first born.

    The eleventh fold, in the eyes of a Hebrew citizen, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon, and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

    The twelfth fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.

    When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God we Trust.”

  152. Patriot Dreamer

    Kim // December 10, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Hi Kim, I have a little one with ADHD. I don’t think that vaccines are the only cause (in most cases), but I do think that they are a contributing factor. Best of luck to you. I know that life can be very challenging with our little ones!

  153. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY // December 10, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Patriot Dreamer:

    Howard Dean is Irrelevant!

    Happy Night…Linda
    Yes, but he “lets the cat out of the bag” every now and then!

  154. c.n.d.e. ville II // December 10, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Hey c.n.d.e. ville II,

    Would the ‘p’ happen to be followed by an “OW?’

    I’ll betcha!

  155. GBAmerica/Sue K:

    I, too, am beginning to believe they want us to take up arms against them so they can round us up and take us to our new “homes.”

    All of the letter writing, phone calls, e-mails, and petitions mean nothing to them. They ignore us because they believe they will stay in power through fraudulent elections no matter what we do or say.

    Anyone who comes up against them is fair game for interrogation, disappearance and/or worse. The elite have never listened to the common man/woman; they just avoid them.

    What they want to know is what price will we pay to secure our freedom. Throughout the ages, men/women have longed to be free and oh, what a price they have paid for their freedom! Someone who has never been free cannot appreciate what it is to be free.

    Happy Night…Linda

  156. c.n.d.e. ville II:

    Please go on Larry’s website and ask him. He is former C.I.A./Counterintelligence.

    Unfortunately, I doubt Larry would say what he believes about pp even if he had an opinion. He may speak out about what pp does, but he has rarely spoken about the eligibility issue. In fact, I think he might have even given the pat answer; that is, that pp was born in Hawaii.

    I have often wondered what Larry knows and will not address.

    Happy Night…Linda

  157. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Sue K. —

    I like that one even BETTER!!
    The one I was thinking of ends with a g.

    (I was responding to the “Director of Muslim Outreach” item. Should have been more specific. 🙂 )

    I’d sure like to know the “why” answers, too.

    They all know, but they’ve chosen to overlook o.’s eligibility. Somehow, I don’t think love of country is their primary motivation.

  158. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Ends with a g and has 3 letters.

  159. c.n.d.e. ville II // December 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm


    Don’t get me started, c.n.d.e. ville II !!!!

  160. Linda from NY // December 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Hi Linda,

    I’ve thought that all along. Any excuse to declare martial law will be OK with them, because then, they’ll have control over the ‘masses.’

    I had a very disturbing ‘dream’ just after the election and it seems to be coming to fruition.

    They ignore us because they can. I’ve thought about the sheeple theory and why people blindly follow, and all I can come up with is this: We haven’t had any major challenges to our freedom since WWII. People today have no idea that a Hitler (or an Obama) can seemingly come out of nowhere and take over a country and its people. History has been forgotten. We’ve become complacent, just as we have the further away we get from 9/11.

    I don’t think that the younger folks today realize that freedom is not something that’s handed to you; you have to fight for and maintain it. They think that everything will remain the same, no matter what. Why? Because things have been handed to them all their lives and they don’t know how to ‘do battle’ to keep their freedom; they take it for granted.

    Until people start getting it, I’m afraid we’re in for a long, rough ride. I’m sorry to say that, but with our ‘congresspeople’ and the MSM ignoring the issues, we have to start from the bottom and work our way up, which is what we’ve been doing.

    Still, I see a tough road ahead.

  161. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Linda from NY // December 10, 2009 at 8:44 pm
    That’s a good idea.

    His assessments about the eligibility issue would be very valuable to know.

    Maybe it’s that, “I’d tell you, but then I’d have to shut you up forever” kind of information. Maximum top secret stuff.

    Maybe he is concerned that speaking up would put “innocents” at risk.

  162. c.n.d.e. ville II

    SueK // December 10, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    R e s t r a i n i n g m y s e l f. !!!!

    But the imagination is running wild, hog wild.

    ooops. Sorry. I’m done now. No more.

  163. Sue K:

    Don’t know what you dreamed, but I see dreams as “warnings” of what might happen if we don’t pay attention.

    The young are surely oblivious to what history has taught the “older” generation. “911” might have shaken them, but they had no idea what really happened. I also think, though, the young are big on independence…maybe, if their independence was threatened, they might see what is happening in a different light. They are our future…as Val says, we must guide them.

    I have to say, too, I do not see a foreboding in the future. We might be in for a rough time, but Americans are resilient fighters; we will not go quietly into the night. Push us too far, and we will push back with a vengeance!

    Take heart in the Patriotic movement, the fighters like CW and all here, and those who are rallying around truth and the American way. It is discouraging, I know; we all worry about what will happen next but if we have faith in God and stick together, no matter what they try to do we will not be deterred.

    Peaceful night…Linda

    Something is going on in Chicago, the people are starting to talk openly re: Obama/Oprah and all the other frauds.
    Nobody here wants Oprah to die. We would like to see her go to prison for something like tax evasion, or for negligence related to that school in Africa she funds, where young girls are apparently raped, abused, and indoctrinated with New Age craziness via Oprah’s teachings. A personal dream would be to see Alcatraz reopened, just to house Oprah, so the decifit could be paid off by selling chances to poke her with sticks through the bars.
    Welcome to life in Chicago, dealing with the Charybdis of Lake Michigan, whose every whim is indulged to gluttonous orgy.
    So, we don’t wish Oprah any health problems. We wish she’d get a hold of herself and rein in all her excesses, so at the very least she’d be a good role model for all those foolish enough to look up to her. We wish she’d be generous to a wide assortment of charities, and not just ones that pay homage to her for minimum contributions or those that serve only the black community.
    We’d like to see Oprah fall from grace the way Tiger Woods has, and the way Dr. Utopia and his wife ultimately will. Once the MSM’s carefully manufactured facade has been broken and people get to know the real Oprah, she certainly won’t be able to wield enough clout to close down streets for pudding deliveries or pull any of her other indulgent stunts.
    She is course and vulgar when not on camera, and is truly the most racist person we have ever met. The way she treats anyone who is not black is despicable. Despite her billions, she’s also notoriously cheap, too. Here in Chicago, Oprah gives the absolute minimum required to have her name listed on a donor for something. When they built Millennium Park, Oprah gave $1 million dollars so her name could be installed on this giant Greek temple monument to the park’s “Founders”. It took $1 million to get a name carved on that thing. People like the Pritzkers, the Crowns, the Luries, and other prominent Chicago families gave $25 million, $15 million, $10 million, etc. But, Oprah knew she’d get the same amount of attention for giving $1 million that she’d get for giving more…so she did the least that she had to do for the good PR.
    Nobody knows the real Oprah, any more than they knew the real Tiger Woods or the real Dr. Utopia. Oprah is a product delivered to millions of suburbanites who used her to feel good about themselves, in that they could quickly refute any implications of racism by saying, “I may not have any black friends, and I may not even know any black people, but I watch Oprah and like her, so therefore I am progressive”. The fact that Oprah was often a sort of black Santa Claus for wealthy women from Schaumburg also helped: because people sure loved those give-away shows, where women in $300 cashmere sweaters sporting $90 haircuts jumped up and down thrilled to win Godiva chocolates or Ugg boots they could have easily bought for themselves.

  165. c.n.d.e ville II:

    From what you said, I was reminded of what someone here said; there are two C.I.A.s. There are probably two F.B.I.s as well. Are there two different intelligence briefings? The one they give him and the real one?

    There is something very sinister about pp. Why is it so important for his past to be concealed? What is he hiding? It has to be something bigger than just his identity. Why are people protecting him? And, from what? Is there is a “bigger fish to fry?”

    What Larry knows is not for publication IMHO. That may be why he avoids the eligibility issue.

    What do you think?

    Happy Night…Linda

  166. c.n.d.e. ville II // December 10, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    c.n.d.e. ville II, I can’t go there right now!


    Linda from NY // December 10, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Linda, I can’t post what I dreamed but let’s just say his henchwomen were coming to get me and my family. It was too detailed to forget and I never will.

    Sorry, but I don’t hold out too much hope for the next generation; I’ve seen them in business and socially, and I’m appalled at the apathy.

    I hope you’re right regarding the future; I don’t see a sunny one at this point however, I would lay down my life to guarantee one for future generations. I think I fear this massive ‘machine’ the most because I see judges and media ‘bought’ and those in authority who turn a blind eye. It just seems that no one cares about what’s right and what’s wrong anymore.

    That’s why I say it’ll be a rough road…

  167. c.n.d.e. ville II

    I’ve been thinking about this irony. God was an integral part of the communities of the first European settlers. To worship Him in the way they felt was faithful to the Scriptures was THE reason most of them braved incredible odds to make a new life in an unknown wilderness.

    Now, God has been so far removed from our national life that we end up with responsible (?) adults boasting about plans to throw stones and bottles at a CHILD . . . and his mother !!!!!

  168. TO:

    Starla // December 10, 2009 at 10:58 am

    Here is some follow up information about Sherry Peel Jackson:

    I called Sherry’s Representative Hank Johnson 4th District (GA) at 202-225-1605 and his clerk “Mary Beth” told me “Hank is in D.C. right now” and, “We have a staff person working on this issue of helping Sherry in our office.”


    All we ask is for Sherry Peel Jackson to be treated at least as well as the Jihadi Terrorists. Send her to Bermuda or at least to Guantanamo.

    Yes We CON, Yes We CON!!

  169. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Linda from N.Y.

    Good questions. I want to think a bit about my answers.

    For one thing, I think anyone in the CIA has a whole spectrum of considerations re: their actions and decisions that non-CIA people do not. We probably cannot even conceive of the “world” in which they operate.

  170. JJ

    I believe that you have finally figured it all out. A people who are oppressed to such a degree that they feel that they have nothing left to lose can easily become your worst nightmare, and care little how they bring it about. You CANNOT corral a free society,without placing your own freedom at extreme risk. We only need to look around us,and listen to the lunatic ranting ,and raving of those who were allegedly chosen to represent us to realise that we need to act very soon if we are to preserve the way of life in which we were raised.

  171. The Godless Erosionist Lieberals THINK they are God or at least can play God, They pretent to be able to perform miracles and cure all ills of society, which they haven’t had ONE SUCCESS AT, the Globe and soon after failing at that they will try sell us the healing of the Universe.

  172. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Sue K.

    Your dream sounds horrifying, even more so because, as history as shown, the events are within the realm of possibility.

    “It can’t happen here,” is just not true.

  173. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Old Salt —

    I hope you are feeling better. I was wondering about your health.

  174. SUEK………………

    Apathy, stupidity,drugs,illiteracy, and deviate life styles are the primary ingredients of the stew whose odor seems to permeate our entire country. The stench is getting stronger as each day passes, and obviously is originating in DC. We are being forced to inhale the vile stench,which is emanating from the manure that is being spewed each day by those who we elected to represent us at both state, and federal level. IT MUST END!

  175. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // December 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm
    And in their world, the people who trust in another God are the most evil thing on the planet and the reason why their “good” policies don’t work.

  176. A few words of wisdom:

    “The two most important rules in a gunfight are: always cheat and always win.”

    “Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets. I may get killed with my own gun, but he’s gonna have to beat me to death with it, cause it’s going to be empty..”

    “You can say ‘stop’ or ‘alto’ or use any other word you think will work but I’ve found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much the universal language.”

  177. c.n.d.e. ville II

    imo Our founders put “In God We Trust” on our money (of all things) for a reason.

    By experience, they knew their federation emerged as a nation only by the help of God.

    They really did put their trust in God, not in power or money.

    btw, the king and his court must have considered the actions of the colonists a conspiracy. I’m sure no one dared mock his “conspiracy theory.”

  178. PRWH……………………………………..

    The Whitehouse has become a fantasy land wherein everything is possible. That is because those who were sent there to represent us have turned their backs to us ,and pledged allegiance to their newfound fantasy land. They are all victims of a mental illness which is only now being recognised by the shrinks. A well known psychiatrist, has very recently gone on public record with his analysis of our alleged leaders. While it is not exactly the same profile as my own, I certainly agree with him. They have all been absorbed into a LA LA FANTASYLAND, that is led by deranged persons. They are able to pervert people into believing UP is DOWN……LEFT IS RIGHT……ansd BLACK IS WHITE. Sadly the people that we elected can’t seem to discern the difference either. So this seems to say that we sent some pretty STUPID people to Washington. This will happen every election if we don’t SCREEN our elected representatives with a very fine mesh screen. It needs to be about TRUTH,HONESTY,INTELLIGENCE, and DEVOTION TO CAUSE.

  179. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Linda from NY // December 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm
    Sinister is right. I believe o. is downright evil.

    I think the deception surrounding him is like a smokescreen set up to deflect and occupy people while he goes about his business of destruction and domination.

    Deception is one of the most difficult “weapons” to counter, imo. Even more so, because the people attempting to penetrate the deception and to expose the truth are usually the people who play by the rules, who are just and act in honor. The con artists, on the other hand, play by no rules and use every dirty trick in the book.

    Part of the reason for hiding the truth about o. I think, is that, most of Americans, if they saw without a doubt, that he has lied about himself from the beginning, would not think twice about ousting him from leadership.

    Most people think that our system is still working. So, I think, they would go with a big scandal and that would be that.

  180. YO OBAMA !

    ATLANTA — Swine flu has sickened about 50 million Americans, and killed about 10,000, according to new estimates released by federal health officials on Thursday.
    Well now, 10,000 divided by 50 states would give us 200 people dying of this flu in each state………uh, I’m in Ky and have heard of only one person hospitalized for this flu……..and oh, if 1 of 6 have had the flu, why hasn’t anyone in my community of 26,000 been sick??

  181. Kim

    Autism is probably lyme disease. New study out that 90% of autistic children actually had Lyme disease. We were told my grandson had high fuctioning autism, but he actually had lyme. He’s being treated with antibiotics and doing wonderful. Google lyme disease and autism and you will find many links. Most doctors are woefully ignorant about tick borne illnesses. We found a lyme disease specialist.

  182. Linda from NY // December 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Realistically, they would like to take care of the 100 million who are not following ‘the program’, any way they can…….but environmentally, they can’t do it their way… dispose of that many bodies would be a mess and an almost impossible task…….

  183. ende ville II…………………………………….

    YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! Although in todays sort of skirmish I would be choosing an RPG, or a LAW backed up by our good old stand by the WWII FIFTY CALIBER sandbagged placement with a lot of perimeter protection. How is that for hand held big calibre weapons? I can come up with some much bigger whoop ass if needed.

  184. oldsalt77, I would be choosing an RPG, or a LAW backed up by our good old stand by the WWII FIFTY CALIBER
    I would like my old M-1 and a 106 recoiless rifle. I qualified expert with both.

  185. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Sue K.

    “we have to start from the bottom and work our way up, which is what we’ve been doing”
    What you say is what gives me hope.

    We ARE working to rebuild from our foundations and we will not back down from our efforts.

    And o. is failing, not gaining. That gives me hope. Our efforts are paying off more than we know.

    I would be more worried if more and more people seemed to be coming under his “spell.”

    But the opposite seems to be true. That gives me hope.

    The “machinery” is in place, all right, ready to deliver a nation to totalitarianism.

    Looks to me like the machinery is being exposed and dismantled instead albeit a miniscule mite at a time.

  186. c.n.d.e. ville II

    oldsalt77 // December 10, 2009 at 11:42 pm
    Let me know where and when you get the sandbag perimeter set up. I believe if o. is not ousted, the options will narrow to “hands-on” resistance.

  187. oldsalt77 // December 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm


    I believe that you have finally figured it all out. A people who are oppressed to such a degree that they feel that they have nothing left to lose can easily become your worst nightmare, and care little how they bring it about. You CANNOT corral a free society,without placing your own freedom at extreme risk. We only need to look around us,and listen to the lunatic ranting ,and raving of those who were allegedly chosen to represent us to realise that we need to act very soon if we are to preserve the way of life in which we were raised.
    And that action will happen soon if cap and trade, and then the deathcare bill come into play…….this nation of patriots, several million, will not pay any taxes and I predict the financial infrastructure the government has run on will eventually dry up…….wealthy entrepeneurs and business owners will not sit back and take from their families and businesses to support the “Oprah watchers”, the deadbeats.

    What’s that relevant saying??

    When’s the last time you were hired by a poor person???

  188. Has anyone here gotten the feeling the deathcare is failing and the dems just won’t (or don’t know how to) give it up until it’s absolutely apparent and obvious that it’s failed??

    Or is it just me??

    This give and take (which I don’t trust) is just stalling, a diversion, buying time, or something else.

    I sincerely think that the dems don’t have a chance of this passing…….so, why don’t they call ‘uncle’??

  189. DON……………………………….

    I only shot a 144. But like the GUNNY said that is still good enough to give sombody a really nasty HEMORHOID REMOVAL. wITH A SECOND ANUS HE ISN’T TOO LIKELY TO BOTHER ANYBODY. I qualified my M1 Garand which had seen WWII action ,and had a burned land in the ID of the barrel. The FREAKING GUNNY looked at it, then fired three rounds (500)yds, to in the red anone just outside. He said it was a better than average rifle. How do you argue with that sort of explanation. He did say though that there was intermittant wind gusts, and I might have found one.
    I also like M18s for perimeter defense. Does two things for you takes out some of the enemy,and lets you know that they are there. Maybe we need to expose some of our friends in DC to this sort of whoop ass.

  190. DON ………………………….

    If you qualified an M1 then you must be somewhere close to me with respect to LONGEVITY. The M1 got phased out in the Korean war. The M14 became the workhorse. Some elements of the 2nd Marine Div, along with the 4th kept their M1s right through to the truce.

  191. DON…………………………………

    In the Korean war they DIDN’t sandbag the perimeter,they sandbagged the 50 caliber machine guns. This wasn,t always done, and the weapon could become a real beast in the hands of an inexperienced gunner. They still hit HARD, and are still used in certain tactics. I laways thought that the M 60 was about useless. to small of caliber. BAR much more effective. Of course I temper this with the words IF USED in situations that require heavier ordnance. Of course you could go with the 106 as well. I don’t know too much about the 106 re coiless,other than what I have read.

  192. With respect to artillery, all I ever knew about was the 105s, and 155s.

  193. DON.

    Began my military career in 1949 in our local yokal National Guard Regiment. This was the Indiana National Guard ,293rd Infantry,Reg, H&S Company, 38th Division. Then called the CYCLONES. I had hoped to be involved with artillery, but the Fort Wayne entity was not an artillery outfit. I was in service company; doing 2nd echelon maintenance. Sort of boring, replacing wheel seals, and brake lines on 6x6s. After about 1 1/2
    years of that I had enough, and advised our first sergant that I was going to join the US Navy. Enlisted in December of 1950 and was discharged in January of 1956.

  194. Don in California

    I began mine with the 49th Inf. Calif Army National Guard, Oreville, CA. Took basic at Fort Ord, CA. 1961. Not much younger than you.

    The 106 recoiless was either ground mounted or jeep mounted and had a 50 cal spotting rifle mounted on the side. Good for tanks or personnel.

  195. Don in California

    cont…. I retired from the USAF in 1982. The last ten years as a Special Agent, AFOSI doing criminal investigations and counter intelligence.

    I still remember a lot of what I learned in the Army and the AF. May be old, but can still aim pretty good. lol

  196. Don in California

    Oldsalt, the first Nike Hercules missle site I ever visited was just South of Hammond, IN. Went to school in Hammond for a while.

  197. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Linda from NY —

    Still chewing on your questions.

    I do believe we are not wrestling against flesh and blood, but with “the principalities, the powers, the world rulers of this present darkness, the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” from Ephesians 6

    I believe we, like the first patriots, will only stand with God’s help. As we’ve seen, the “enemy” is too strong and the deception too deep.

    I believe the fact that America voted life in the presidential election is the slim edge that we hold in this battle with the darkness. (God looks upon the heart. And no one can fool Him.)

    I believe that if obama and biden had truly won the election, many of us would most likely already be in the FEMA camps (with some kind of bogus explanation, of course) and our current battle would be on an entirely different footing.

    (I mean no offense to Democrats when I call the o./biden ticket the “death ticket.” Most Democrats, I believe, really have nothing much in common with o. He came through the Democratic Party, but he was never “of” the Democratic Party.)

    I believe “Life” is the key issue for America’s future. If we don’t hold to life, choose leaders who hold to life, refuse everything that is anti-life, we won’t be able to withstand the onslaught of the darkness. We reap what we sow.

    I decided if America was, indeed, to fall, then I wanted to go down slinging my meager pebbles at Goliath, rather than as a puppet-slave accepting and participating in the brave new fantasy world of the deceived.

    (Nothing short of the possibility that the “end of all things” is indeed upon us, could have gotten me to express myself in a public forum. (Shudder. Itchy heebie jeebies.) I still have nightmares about giving reports in front of the class from my school days. Talk about — my weakness, His strength!)

    I just wanted to be on the record for going down with the right side. So, here I am, thankful beyond measure for all you heroes I encounter here, and for all the info and pieces of the puzzle that you bring.

    Now, I actually feel more encouraged each day. Little victories seems to indicate that all is not proceeding according to “plan” for the bad guys.

    That gives me hope.

  198. c.n.d.e. ville II

    JJ // December 11, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Has anyone here gotten the feeling the deathcare is failing and the dems just won’t (or don’t know how to) give it up until it’s absolutely apparent and obvious that it’s failed??
    I’m so glad you said that. I can’t tell if I’m just being blindly idealistic or if there is real reason to hope for the defeat of this monstrosity.

    I, too, feel like, at the very least, the Dems are losing steam by the minute.

  199. c.n.d.e. ville II

    Don in California —

    Do you still have ties to the intelligence community that you could tap for “inside” info . . . without putting yourself at risk, of course?

    From your experience as an investigator, do you have any ideas about how to unearth facts that would support or refute the details about o.’s life?

  200. Don in California

    c.n.d.e. ville II,
    When I retired I cut all ties to my former associations. Anyone I knew back then would be retired and out of the loop also. From previous experience, I will say that everything we know is not everything they know. Why nothing is getting leaked is the big question for me. The NYT always prints classified infor as long as it hurts the military, why not now?? This whole thing doesn’t make sense unless someone is really pulling strings to keep everything under wraps and I am not talking about just the upper level people. The ones down in the ranks must have been silenced somehow.


    The Post & Email has obtained independent confirmation that the Birth Annoucement on Aug. 14, 1961, in the Hawaii Star Bulletin is legit

    You can download the documents from the url above…


    What about that Second Oath Obama “took”?

  203. c.n.d.e. ville II

    My own outlook is kind of simple these days.

    Not too long ago, I was with my mother when she departed this life — before her time. (I believe in resurrection . . . but the loss sure stays an empty space until that DAY.) That experience affected me in a profound way.

    Since then, I have purposed to receive each day as a gift, to actively recognize the many blessings which God pours into my day, to be content with my lot, to relish and appreciate this wonderful gift of life that I take so for granted, to be sure to tell my nearest and dearest that I LOVE them.

    I work at believing God instead of the stuff the world tries to cram down our throats everyday.

    I can’t get one day of my life back — to be happy in. I can’t put happiness on hold, especially not for o.

    I do not know my future. I cannot know when the last moment is that I will see a person in this life. I do not know when the moment of my last breath will arrive. If I am going to be ALIVE, TODAY is my best shot at it.

    The evil in today’s world is too pervasive and too heavy. Worry and anxiety are two of my outstanding talents. I admit, I cannot bear those burdens by myself.

    All I can do is stand, “in the strength of His might,” where I am placed, do my part in the “battle,” and trust God to give me what I need when I need it.

    (That’s a learning experience, all right. Trust is far from being my strong point.)

    He has promised to bear my burdens (because He cares about . . . me — what a thought — the Creator of the universe, carrying my baggage); He has promised to give rest to my soul when I come to Him.

    This line kind of sums everything up for me.

    Therefore, take the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. from Ephesians 6

    What more can a body do?

    God also provides people to “bear one another’s burdens” with. You posters here sure weigh in in that column — the one headed Blessings and Joys. Again, thanks, just for y’all being who you are.

    Have a great day.

  204. **** New Post ****

    We must support and defend those who tell the truth.
    Those who care about this country.

  205. Just when Australia seems like an idea…

    today’s news from Down Under…

    Mariners are advised that at 1200 GMT on December 9, an iceberg approximately 1,700 kilometres (1,054 miles) south-southwest of the West Australian coast was observed,” it said, giving the iceberg’s coordinates.

    “The iceberg is 140 square kilometres in area — 19 kilometres long by eight kilometres wide.”

    Experts believe the iceberg — known as B17B — is likely to break up as it enters warmer waters nearer Australia, creating hundreds of smaller icebergs in a hazard to passing ships.

    “It’s still 1,700 kilometres away, so it’s quite a long way away, it’s not really on our doorstep yet but it’s been heading steadily towards us,” glaciologist Neal Young said Thursday.

    Young earlier told AFP that an iceberg of that size had probably not been seen in the area since the days when 19th century clipper sailing ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia.

    The iceberg has been floating around Antarctica since shearing off the icey continent but had lately begun heading north because of ocean currents and weather conditions.

    Its discovery comes after two other large icebergs were spotted further east, off Australia’s Macquarie Island, followed by more than 100 smaller chunks heading towards New Zealand.

    Young described the icebergs as uncommon, but said they could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming

    Does this mean Al Gore is right??

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