Senate Health Care Bill, Cloture, Debate, Senate schedule, Senate proceedings, Harry Reed, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell

I was asked to post the following email.

“Healthcare Tea Party on the Las Vegas Strip today
The Senate has voted to begin debate on the Senate healthcare bill, by a party line vote.

As we wrote earlier today, even though we have been considering every vote to be “first and goal” there are still a number of plays left in the game, and will need your efforts now more than ever to win it.
Here’s what Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell just said:
“This bill may have been drafted behind closed doors but now it’s the American people’s turn to have their voices heard. ..”
1. Senate schedule
2. Senate proceedings
3. Democrats already panning their own bill
4. The “Big Picture” from here: “Forget the Trees, Look at the Forest” by Jane Orient, MD
5. What is Cloture?  from David Lowther, M.D.
Senate schedule & next steps
The Senate will begin formal debate on the healthcare bill after the Thanksgiving recess. At that time amendments may be introduced as well, which will likely number into the hundreds. Debate will probably take up to 3-4 weeks, so that brings us up to Christmas recess. Even if it passes the Senate then, it would have to be reconciled with the House bill, which is significantly different.
Please circulate the “Healthcare Turkey” one-pager to family, friends and colleagues during the next 10 days while the Senate is in recess.
Senate proceedings
First, let’s be clear – the vote tonight was only to proceed with formal debate. The bill can be filibustered, and some have indicated that they will do so. That means that the Senate would again have to invoke cloture to end that debate. The votes required for that are 60.
Those votes would come before we even get to a final vote on the bill. So when you hear that the Senate voted to pass the health care bill – THAT IS NOT CORRECT!
Democrats already panning their own bill
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-LA): “My Vote Today To Move Forward On This Important Debate Should In No Way Be Construed By The Supporters Of This Current Framework As An Indication Of How I Might Vote As This Debate Comes To An End.” (Sen. Landrieu, Floor Remarks, 11/21/09)
SEN. BLANCHE LINCOLN (D-AR): “I Am Opposed To A New Government-Administered Health Care Plan As A Part Of Comprehensive Health Insurance Reform, And I Will Not Vote In Favor Of The Proposal That Has Been Introduced By Leader Reid As It Is Written.” (Sen. Lincoln, Floor Remarks, 11/21/09)
SEN. BEN NELSON (D-NE): “If That’s Not Possible, I Will Oppose The Second Cloture Motion–Needing 60 Votes–To End Debate, And Oppose The Final Bill.” (Sen. Nelson, “Nelson: Nebraskans’ Views Must Be Heard In Health Care Debate,” Press Release, 11/20/09)
SEN. EVAN BAYH (D-IN): “At The End Of The Process, I’ll Avoid The Washington Two-Step Of Voting To Go Forward But Then Voting Against The Final Bill … But This Is Just A Starting Point, So At This Point I Do Think There’s A Difference.” (“Bayh To Support First Procedural Vote On Healthcare,” The Hill, 11/18/09)
The Big Picture
Forget the Trees; Look at the Forest on Healthcare
By Jane Orient, M.D
AAPS Executive Director
Various groups, on both sides of the issues, are squabbling over details: abortion, a “public option,” treatment of illegal aliens, size of penalties, distribution of subsidies, calculation of doctors’ pay, etc. Items are moved in or out of the bill as needed to capture just the right number of votes with the least electoral damage. None of it really matters. The rules will be written later — after they “get it done” and “something” passes and the next election is over.

Americans need to take the view from 35,000 feet. That’s the view of the controllers, the global budgeters, and the folks who drop bombs without having to see the faces of the victims….

What is Cloture?
Dr. David Lowther of Atlanta sent us this great email and we thought we’d share it:
 What is cloture?  if you’re like me, you’re learning new things about government every day with this administration…
According to this Reference:
“By 1915 (under President Woodrow Wilson), the Senate had become a breeding ground for filibusters.  In the final weeks of the Congress that ended on March 4, one administration measure related to the war in Europe tied the Senate up for 33 days and blocked passage of 3 major appropriations bills.  Two years later, as pressure increased for American entry into that war, a 23-day, end-of-session filibuster against the president’s proposal to arm merchant ships also failed, taking with it much other essential legislation.  For the previous 40 years, efforts in the Senate to pass a debate-limiting rule had come to nothing.  Now, in the wartime crisis environment, President Wilson lost his patience.  Calling the situation unparalleled, he stormed that the “Senate of the United States is the only legislative body in the world which cannot act when its majority is ready for action.  A little group of willful men, representing no opinion but their own (that would be the minority), have rendered the great government of the United States helpless and contemptible.”  The Senate, he demanded, must adopt a cloture rule. 
On March 8, 1917, in a specially called session of the 65th Congress, the Senate agreed to a rule that essentially preserved its tradition of unlimited debate.  The rule required a 2/3rds majority to end debate and permitted each member to speak for an additional hour after that before voting on final passage.  Over the next 46 years, the Senate managed to invoke cloture on only 5 occasions.  In 1975*****, the Senate reduced the number of votes required for cloture from two-thirds (67) to three-fifths (60) of the current 100 senators.”
*****interesting little side notes i noted trolling the web:
#1: Guess how many Democratic Senators there were in 1975? 60 (the same number needed for cloture as mentioned above). 
#2: During the 35 years from 1945 through 1981, the Democrats were the majority in Senate save for 8 years (1st 2 years of Eisenhower’s first term and the 1st 6 years of Reagan).  During late Eisenhower years through JFK and LBJ, the Democratic Senate majority numbers were as follows: 65, 64, 66, 68, and 64 (ie – total dominance).  When Nixon was elected, their majority slipped to 57, 54, and 56.  Once Ford was in place, they regained numbers to 60.  So after ceding their 2/3rds control of the Senate during Nixon, they changed the rules while still in the majority and suddenly 60 was the magic number for cloture.
#3: From the moment Cloture was first instituted during Wilson until the Cloture rules were changed from 67 votes necessary to 60 (1975), Cloture was invoked only 21 times.  In 1975 alone, it was used 17 times by the Democrat-controlled Senate.
#4: During Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II it was invoked an average of 12 times a session (6 times a year) and ranged from 3 (Carter) to 34 (Bush II).
#5: Since Democrats took control of Congress in 2007, it has been used 90 times.  90.
So, how do you feel about Harry Reid using a rule that was originally designed as a means of funding WWI by expediting war appropriations bills NOW being used to force Universal Health Care upon the public?  Keep in mind the following:
1. Obama’s approval rating is only 47%, his lowest since taking office when he was at 65%.  While his approval rating has dropped 18%, his disapproval rating has climbed from 30% to 52% in only 10 months.
2. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s approval rating in her own state of California is only 34%.
3. Senator Harry Reid is behind in his re-election campaign in NV by 10% (“Sue Lowden beating Reid by 10%, 50% to 40%. Lowden is chairwoman of the Nevada Republican Party and the preferred candidate of the Republican party establishment.  GOP hopeful Danny Tarkanian beats Reid by seven points, 50% to 43%”).
4. In the race for California’s next governor in 2010, Republican Meg Whitman and Democrat Jerry Brown are tied at 41% each.
5. After Pelosi’s bill passed the House, the public was against the bill 54% v. 42%.  Even CA comes in at 51%, down 4% since last week.
To pull a cloture vote on one of the largest entitlement programs in US history, federalize 17% of the economy, and to do it on a Saturday, off the regular news cycle, is an atrocity.”

127 responses to “Senate Health Care Bill, Cloture, Debate, Senate schedule, Senate proceedings, Harry Reed, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell

  1. “To pull a cloture vote on one of the largest entitlement programs in US history, federalize 17% of the economy, and to do it on a Saturday, off the regular news cycle, is an atrocity.”

    These a$$chits know exactly what they are doing. There is no question that it was all a set up. Pelousy made sure her most vulnerable D’s didn’t have to vote and Reid knows he only has a few D’s to worry about in 2010. So, he made sure they were given the heft to go back to their districts to say “yes, I voted with the majority but look see what I got for you, my constituents”. Pay to play works on the local level as much as it does in the Capitol. Don’t be fooled by the drama. It’s all theatre for you, their audience, and nothing more.

    Just Me – read this post over at PM

    Here is my comment on that thread –

    137. d2i:

    Great article! Great comments!

    Someone up thread stated what I believe to be the real deal – that is – it does appear more and more likely that this was an inside job – Medal of Freedom, Nobel Peace Prize and much more should be awarded to this very brave soul.

    Being a member of the Sierra Club IS like being a member of a cult. Back in 2000 I managed a campaign for them and worked with several of their long-term members. They were great people but some of them were nuttier than a fruit cake.

    If you want to point fingers at someone point them at Carl Pope, Executive Director of the Sierra Club and Board Member of George Soros’ Open Society Institute run by Podesta. All of these men are far, far, far left liberals which many now call fascists or marxists. And remember Carl and the headquarters for Sierra Club are located in the heart of San Francisco, CA. Back in 2000 they were just starting their Environmental Justice program and their political work using 527s and their c4 status to fire Republican’s and hire Democrat’s. They are THE MOST PARTISAN environmental group in the country.

    From the looks of the list below it appears that members of the board of OSI are responsible to fulfill specific goals, ones they were intentionally recruited to implement based on their area of expertise. To fulfill the goals they need money which comes directly from Soros, Tides, Heinz and other foundations, likely the very same ones that fund ACORN and SEIU. Here’s the list –

    In 1979 Soros established the Open Society Institute (OSI), which serves as the flagship of a network of Soros foundations that donate tens of millions of dollars each year to a wide array of individuals and organizations that share the founder’s agendas. Those agendas can be summarized as follows:

    – promoting the view that America is institutionally an oppressive nation
    -promoting the election of leftist political candidates throughout the United States
    – opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government, particularly the Patriot Act
    – depicting American military actions as unjust, unwarranted, and immoral
    – promoting open borders, mass immigration, and a watering down of current immigration laws
    – promoting a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs funded by ever-escalating taxes
    – promoting social welfare benefits and amnesty for illegal aliens
    – defending the civil rights and liberties of suspected anti-American terrorists and their abetters
    – financing the recruitment and training of future activist leaders of the political Left
    – advocating America’s unilateral disarmament and/or a steep reduction in its military spending
    – opposing the death penalty in all circumstances
    – promoting socialized medicine in the United States
    – promoting the tenets of radical environmentalism, whose ultimate goal, as writer Michael Berliner has explained, is “not clean air and clean water, [but] rather … the demolition of technological/industrial civilization”
    – bringing American foreign policy under the control of the United Nations
    – promoting racial and ethnic preferences in academia and the business world alike
    – promoting taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand
    – advocating stricter gun-control measures

    To learn more click here

    How many of these goals appear to being realized? hhhmmm. Folks, Soros is the bad guy. Soros is the one behind all of this. Soros funded ACORN, SEIU and is now propping up the DNC. He is the one that needs to be behind bars. This is an extraordinarily dangerous man IMHO and he will stop at nothing to achieve his goals. Obama’s his puppet. Pelosi is his stage manager. His board are the Directors. Soros is the Producer. And the movie drama we are watching unfold with these faux scientists at AGW is part and parcel of OSI. Talk about waking up!!!

    Nov 22, 2009 – 12:16 pm

  2. The South,

    I have no conflict with you about clean water. Water represents the sacred ruach (the power/force) of our heavenly father because it has a healing power to it and can resurrect to life. BTW, when I have kept the Day of Atonement throughout all of these years, I can tell you that the first thing that you miss is water before the 24-hour period is over with. It’s not the food, it’s that first drink of precious water.

    Clean water is something that we all take for granted. It can heal, then water can kill. It’s a powerful force. Our bodies are made of what? Well, mostly water. I think in babies it’s like 77 or more percent! That’s a lot. I’m sure it lessens as we age, so to round it off, between 70 and 75 percent.

    I know that we have powerful things to help us all with our health, but modern-day medicine has its place too, The South. You must admit it. If you’re having a heart attack or whatever, modern-day medicine can help that. If you’re having a severe gallbladder attack, then I’m one who knows that it can be helped and must be at times, as I’ve been down this road before. I even did GB cleanses for several years before I finally had to have it out. It wasn’t that I wanted to, but it was the prudent thing to do.

    Problem is, I think, is that the AMA won’t let physicians think for themselves. Many are just what, robots? But there are some still out there who can think for themselves. These are the great ones. I think sometimes both things should be used when appropriate, the natural and the other.

  3. Kittycat,

    Yes, I agree there is some good medicine out there, but what agitates me, is most medicines are mfg. to treat the disease, and not ‘cure the disease’.

    Here’s part 9/10 of the documentary on the Bob Beck Protocol. This gentlemen lays it out, how the AMA, FDA, Bankers have taken over the medical industry, and how even if you have a cure, they won’t let it surface.

    This guy was also in Aaron Russos film “America:Freedom to Fascism”

  4. Health care is about controling future elections. How you say? Well lets say somehow they get knowledge of someones voting preferences and where they live and base health care on that. look out!

  5. The South, I do agree with you, yes. Modern-day medicine can help you get through crap, no joke. When I had severe gallbladder attacks, that Demerol was wonderful going through my IV because I’ve heard this, and don’t know yet if it’s true or not, but GB attacks can be worse pains that a heart attack. All I know is this, I was begging for that IV Demerol.

    However, I had spent years trying to save my GB and did a good job for a long time. I thought that I had saved it because for a year or more, it was better in my working at diet and natural remedies. They worked for such a long time for me and eating healthy. And I found out many, many things and reason for us losing our GBs. Some are genetic.

    Then for several months and after a few years, I kind of knew that I was going to lose it because stuff just wasn’t working right anymore. I went for over a year not doing a GB cleanse, which I think kind of made it happen that I was going to lose it.

    One time I had to go to ER because of a GB attack (was the second time actually), and this doctor that I just loved was there, and he said to me, from your GB sonogram, it looks like you could save your GB now because you only have two very small stones in it. I’d say do the cleanse again and try to flush them.

    See, he believed that I could get rid of them.

    So I prepared myself and did it again, but those two little stinkers were the ones that gave me the worst problems. Both of them didn’t want to flush out. Then one of those little stones decided to pass along my pancreas and I had pancreatitis. The other one was in one of my bile ducts somewhere.

    So I went to ER again (3rd visit), this time with high fever and turning a horrible shade of yellow because of the stuck bile in my pancreas. However, the next day at the hospital they sent me to, I passed one and it allowed the bile to flow again. Believe me, I was so sick. Demerol was my good friend!

    However, when the surgeon came in to ask me if I wanted my GB out because the day before I had an ERCP to sweep my bile ducts ( a minor surgery), I said, yes, please just remove it. He stated, your GB is clean now, but it has a little bit of a thickened wall on it (not good; I already knew that a thickened wall can mean pre-cancer or just irritation).

    Well, I said remove it. I had worked so hard, finally had a clean GB, no stones like it was packed full of, and it was those last two little stinkers that came out. Honestly, I had passed some inch stones or larger like a year and a half before this. No pain, no strain with the cleanse.

    After I passed those one-inch or over stones before, I felt like a jewel the next day.

    Many people don’t believe that you can pass these, but honestly, you do. When I first started having a GB attack back in late 1999, I had a GB packed with stones. I did many cleanses and passed a ton of strange-looking stuff that you wouldn’t believe. Just me telling you, y’all probably all have that too if you have a GB.

  6. BTW, if anyone thinks that they have problems with their GB, get this stuff:

    You can probably buy it now at some grocery stores. That stuff is potent. You would probably want to drink a quart a day for like 2 weeks. Just doing that would probably make you pass some stuff.

    If I had known about that when I first started, I could have probably saved my GB, I guess. All I know is this, the GB cleanse really does work and you’ll pass stuff that you think, what the heck is that? You’ll pass multitudes of sand-looking stuff, tons of pea-green little stones, yellow stones, then those huge ones that I passed like a year after starting this, they were dark green with aqua color running through them that were about an inch or more. It’s weird. The darker colored ones are the ones that have been inside of you for a long time.

    I’m pretty sure that most of us are full of these suckers. Some come from your liver and not your GB. We all have liver stones and what I found out is this, you can get your GB out and still have a GB attack because of your liver stones.

  7. The South, Probably like most of you here, I had chicken pox as a small child and am deathly afraid of getting shingles! Which one of these keeps shingles away. The water or the Colloidal Silver?

  8. The Big Picture

    Forget the Trees; Look at the Forest on Healthcare

    Forget the Trees; Forget the Forest Look at the satellite view on Healthcare.

    We have a Federal government that installed a usurper and a tyrannical congress that has turned their back on the Constitution , hell bent on destroying this country.

    From the satellite view you can easily see there is no free press…….

  9. Adam Kokesh: End the Fed Speech!

    This guy is going to make a great U.S. Congressman, and needs our support.

  10. ticktock,

    Colloidal Silver kills the Shingles virus. I personally witnessed this about 3 weeks ago, when a family member was diagnosed with Shingles.

    He had a bad breakout on his side that was horrible. It happened overnight, he was in so much pain, he checked himself into the ER.

    I gave him a bottle of CS, and in about 2 days the virus was dead …… gone …… DEAD!

  11. Here’s a testimonial I found, of a guy who killed his Shingles using Colloidal Silver.

    Warning: Graphic Photos

  12. Thanks South, So if it kills the virus, it would prevent one from even getting the shingles, I’m guessing. This is great!

  13. Patriot Dreamer

    New poll from Gallup: BO’s approval rating has dropped to 48%

  14. Where does one purchase this colloidal silver?

  15. You know it’s getting bad when Glenn Beck has armed security guards.

    Glenn Beck at the Villages November 21, 2009 Part 2

  16. I heard to be very careful with colloidal silver. Doesn’t it cause toxicity and possible cancer if you also drink regular tap water? People should get shingles vaccines.

  17. d2i,

    Good thorough coment at pyjamasmedia. One sees Soros fingerprint in just about everything Obama does or doesn’t.

  18. d21 …… You can buy colloidal silver online, or at your local health food store.

    JaSO24 …… You are incorrect. There are no known side effects and has no known toxicity, and does not cause cancer. If you decide to make your own (which is perfectly safe) you will want to use Distilled water only.

  19. Anyone who would like a very informative site on colloidal silver, check this one out.

    He sells generators too, but just read the links at the top of the page for a good quick education.

  20. BTW: Notice Beck is also wearing a bullet proof vest.

  21. Patriot Dreamer

    I don’t know how to embed this video, but Saturday Night Live (SNL) destroys BO on spending:

  22. PD,

    This gives a good view. Warning: R rated, but very too the point.

  23. Patriot Dreamer

    ARMY D.A.V. // November 22, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    I remember Beck saying a while back that he had to hire a personal security company (bodyguards). I’m not at all surprised about the bullet proof vest.

  24. Patriot Dreamer

    venice, thanks! I’m kind of surprised this came from SNL. Finally, the gloves are off?

  25. JaSO24 // November 22, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Hello JaSO24,

    First of all, **no one** should be getting *any* kind of vaccine-H1N1, seasonal flu, pneumonia, shingles, or any other.

    This shingles vaccine is relatively new, and doesn’t work half the time in fact, no vaccine has ever been proven to be effective for anything.

    Keep in mind that most vaccines use Thimerosal as a preservative; that’s mercury, to the tune of up to 2,000 times the dose of mercury the FDA considers to be safe for an adult. God knows what else is in those vaccines.
    The South, I know you’re full-on into colloidal silver and swear by it but it’d be prudent to check with a healthcare professional (not necessarily a doc) before starting anything new. My little gig with colloidal silver netted me a hospital bill of 2,300 clams.

    Caution and knowledge are the keywords.

  26. This is another example of what we “fringers” have to fight.

    Much of the population (Sheeple) remains convinced that only what is reported by MSM is true.

    Try to compartmentalize what you know (or don’t know) about SoetorObama and then read this article.


    “”There is no other president who has had his citizenship questioned in this way,” says Patricia Turner, an expert in folklore at the University of California, Davis. Turner says that the popular Birther theories that Obama has used fake Hawaiian documents to disguise the fact he was born in Kenya or Indonesia are retellings of an old story. “This is just a proxy for old-fashioned racism. They are driven by hostility towards anything they see as foreign or exotic.”

    Like any virulent conspiracy theory, that of Obama’s birth has proved immune to the intervention of fact. When Obama’s birth certificate in Hawaii was digitally scanned for all to see, it was denounced as a forgery. The birth notices printed by two Hawaii newspapers announcing his birth in August 1961 were similarly dismissed.”

  27. PD,

    The gloves are off, the bell has rung, and the first seismic punch has been delivered.

  28. The colloidal siver is wonderful!! Plan to buy a water ozonator tommorow….I would like to comment on what I saw this afternoon coming thru Nashville, signs with a picture of a crescent moon and star,(Islam), the star of David(jewish) and the cross of Christ (Christian) with the words Harmony……I saw this sign twice and I saw a bumper sticker with these three symbols lined side by side with the words co-exist, the people in the car were middle eastern. We were returning from a hunting trip at the Kentucky border and stopped in Nashville on the way home. I have never seen any of these signs before so odd.

  29. Patriot Dreamer

    “Analysis: Fed under fire as public anger mounts”

  30. SueK:

    I was reading one day from Dr. Mercola’s website and he was talking about the Col. Silver. He was researching into it, though about selling it and then found out and decided to move away from selling it because he thinks that it can be dangerous. It was interesting.

  31. SueK–
    You’ll be happy to know my doctor doesn’t want me to get either flu shot or the pneumonia shot.
    That’s good, isn’t it? Hope so since I’m not getting them.

    Speaking of health issues, how’s your
    baby “Cricket” doing? Hope the answer is
    much better.

  32. I will say this agiain….I honestly believe Pelouser and gReidy are receiving such huge payoffs from ‘someone’ from ‘somewhere’ it doesn’t matter to either if they are not voted in 2010 or voted out when the chance arrives.
    Maybe they are assured the machines will malfunction and they may have another ‘N.Y. 23’???

  33. SueK.

    You forgot to tell all the nice people here the reason you got sick from taking the silver was because it was killing the virus, and you stopped the treatment before it completed it’s job.

    The silver didn’t make you sick, it was doing it’s job, and killing the virus.

    You had a reaction known as the

    Herxheimer Reaction

    Be sure to read the whole page.

  34. Kidmon, are you here?
    Saw your comment about “Rothchild” on the other thread. Yes, caution with this bunch is my thought. Guess the questions are: What does Lynn de Rothchild want? What kind of control will she expect to exert over S. P. in exchange for monetary support? Just be careful, Sarah, is my advise.
    I wish we could say S. P. doesn’t need any of the “filthy” money from the elite snobs trying to run the world. Maybe she doesn’t!!!!!!!

  35. venice – Soros is behind everything IMHO. I haven’t read everything over at discovery but will have time to do that tomorrow. The pieces to the puzzle are falling into place like never before.

    I worked in the environmental field as an advocate for the last ten years and know the players, the organizations and so much more. To learn AGW fudged the data, prevented articles by skeptics from being published, blocked FOIA requests of public documents and data (although, I’m beginning to believe the reason AGW scientists stopped FOIA is b/c their research was privately funded…hhmmm) and skewered skeptics is HUGE. HUGE. HUGE.

    B/w Greenpeace lying about ice caps melting, the hockey stick theory falling to crap and now the behind the scenes collusion by the very University staff and their little club that started the whole global warming scare back during the Thatcher days are facts that are overwhelming the very illusion of impending disaster.

    Because these Soros goals are built on sticks, sand and lies they are beginning to crumble before our very eyes. Certainly not fast enough for me, but doom is inevitable.

  36. This is no “fringe” movement—I say the liberal elites have blinders on. They’ll soon see the
    impact of “fringe” when we take back our
    government and our country.

  37. Just to be politically correct, I’ll add a disclaimer … lol

    I am not a medical professional, and the information I provide is for research purposes only. It is up to you to do your own research and decide if the use of colloidal silver is right for you.

    Ass coveredd 🙂

  38. Yeah Maddie, I’m here!

    I think they pretend to behind a potentially successful candidate so that they can control them due to their money!

    I’m praying America has learned from the Money Candidate. We have paid dearly, haven’t we? I think all contributions should be Out-lawed. Each candidate should get a set amount of money for advertising and the same amount of TV Time and that’s it. Americans should be smart enough to figure the best candidate out. But sadly, we aren’t.

  39. Global Warming Meltdown: Climategate!

    snipped from:

    …BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars have been wasted on studies of global warming and poured into agencies such as NASA that have lent credence to the global warming hoax.

    “The U.S. taxpayer has much exposure here in the joint projects and collaborations which operated in reliance upon what the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit was doing,” says Christopher C. Horner, a longtime global warming skeptic. “There are U.S. taxpayer-funded offices and individuals involved in the machinations addressed in the emails, and in the emails themselves.”

    The East Anglia CRU charlatans have been exposed. Most certainly, the United Nations IPCC should be disbanded in disgrace. It belongs in a museum of hoaxes right beside the Piltdown Man and the Loch Ness Monster.

    Comment: It’s time to confront our representatives about this tax payer funded hoax. Disgusting.

  40. Carmen, could you tell me what kind of water ozonator you decide to buy? Thank you for whoever did the original posts on these health strategies.

  41. Global Climate Change Fraud

    You may have heard recently that the Hadley Climate Research Unit in England had it’s computers hacked and that the hackers (supposedly Russian) unearthed a mess of incriminating emails and documents that prove not only that “Global Warming” is a hoax, but a massive fraud. Al Gore is being sued by the founder of the weather channel for fraud. O is attempting to continue the fraud.

    Anyway I found this link to a download site that has all the emails and documents available for your perusal. I did not upload it, nor did the publisher of this site. Download at your own discretion:

  42. Patriot & DAV–
    Do you think the stress Glenn’s been under is
    what caused his appendix hospitalization by
    chance? I’m glad he has security. All the
    radio and talk show Patriots should get them, imo. Look what happened to Lou Dobbs–shooting into his house.

  43. kittycat // November 22, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Hi Kitty,

    I believe it may be dangerous to some people; maybe not the general population, but if 1/10 of 1 percent reacts negatively to it, that’s cause for concern.

  44. ticktock // November 22, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    The South, Probably like most of you here, I had chicken pox as a small child and am deathly afraid of getting shingles! Which one of these keeps shingles away. The water or the Colloidal Silver?
    ticktock…..I had shingles, caught in the earliest stages, from gall bladder attacks for 6 months that weren’t diagnosed properly.
    I met a girl who was in remission from cancer (she had shingles)and her doctor told her all of us have the potential for shingles.
    Shingles appear from a medical stress or a psychological stress……mine was from medical stress.

  45. SueK,

    I fully agree. Don’t know all the details of your situation, but it’s quite likely you were in shock by the time you got to the hospital. Without intervention that is fatal.

  46. Maddie

    No , I think he loves what he’s doing , He’s had a CCW license for years……..

  47. Maddie // November 22, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    I think your doc is right, and many are recommending skipping the whole cadre of vaccines available.

    Cricket is OK, but I know the Pasteurella will creep back in. Will tackle it when it happens again. Thanks for asking!

  48. OK Off topic here, but my son is atching the AMA Awards. I’m totally shocked! They call this Music? All the songs sound the same.

    Get this, Michael Jackson just won some award and his brother Jermane accepted. Guess what came out of his mouth first???????????????????

    “I would like to thank ‘Allah'” I about threw the remote at the TV!!! I was so dang mad! Now they are taking over Music!

  49. Kidmon,
    Each candidate should get a set amount of money for advertising and the same amount of TV Time and that’s it. Americans should be smart enough to figure the best candidate out.
    I think your idea is great—let’s force them to
    do this and stick to it, no exceptions (or they have to forfeit running). I think America has seen the very worst outcome I have ever seen by
    letting foreign $$$ (and de Rothchild is really foreign money I believe—French aren’t they?)
    And speaking of the French, most Americans
    do not want their $$$ either (I like their language, but some of them can be not so nice).

  50. d2i,

    all of those environmental groups were funded with our dollars all the while working against our liberty and freedoms. Many of them have managed to procure massive land grabs.

    I have been aware of these groups for a while now. However, it wasn’t until last year I began to see who the behind the scenes players are. And, it wasn’t until this year I have put it all together.

    I worked in advertising for a number of years. All I will say about the power of advertising is that it pushed people to buy pet rocks. Enough said. With your background, you know all about advertising.

    So, here we are…on the cusp of a big bust. Many don’t know how big this one is. Then again, they didn’t know how big the problem was. We have to get the word out.

    No doubt, people should be arrested over this.

    Meanwhile, I’m C E L E B R A T I N G!!!

  51. Kidmon,
    Why would Jackson’s brother say that?
    They aren’t Muslims are they?
    That’s absolutely ridiculous.

  52. The South // November 22, 2009 at 10:11 pm


    You forgot to tell all the nice people here the reason you got sick from taking the silver was because it was killing the virus, and you stopped the treatment before it completed it’s job.

    The silver didn’t make you sick, it was doing it’s job, and killing the virus.

    You had a reaction known as the

    Herxheimer Reaction

    Be sure to read the whole page.
    The South, I’m not trying to debate this. While I always value your opinion on a variety of topics, I’m sorry, but I can’t agree on this one.

    I didn’t tell the nice people here that I was rushed to the hospital because that stuff was killing the virus, because it’s not true.

    I did ask my doc if it was a Herxheimer Reaction and he said it wasn’t. He knew what that was and understood it fully. He told me all my labs (every lab test in the book) indicated that my system was poisoned.

    Yeah, I stopped the treatment because c.s almost killed me and believe me, I’m not going there again. After I talked to the customer service guy and got my 50 buck refund, the stuff went in the trash.

    With multiple medical issues, I’m taking another track to assist my immune system and I’ve been given the OK for the remedies I’ve selected. Colloidal silver isn’t one of them. God bless those for whom it works, but there are a certain number of us for whom it’s dangerous.

  53. SueK–
    Can you explain the exact meaning of
    Give C. a little hug from me.

  54. Jermane Jackson is apparently. I don’t think Michael was. Ive never been big fans of any of the Jacksons except when I was very young I loved the song, 1,2,3 its easy as a,b,c.! I think I was 8 when I heard that. OK I’m telling my age now!

  55. Ace,

    yes, we’ve been posting about this topic tonight.

    It’s fantastic. A real victory in the fight against the New World Order.

    you can also find these leaked documents at There literally are thousands. Also, there are a number of great articles up on site and more articles to come tomorrow. It’s important to help others see the importance of this discovery since the other MSM rags are whitewashing it.

    Thanks for the link and helping spread the word.

  56. JJ–
    Was reading your post and have a question:
    What is “medical” stress? Thanks.

  57. venice // November 22, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    Hi Venice,

    I believe you’re correct-I was delirious. I’ve never called an ambulance for myself in my life, but they treated me on the way and hustled me right in.

    This is the same ambulance company who tended to my Mom, and they’re the best! I’m in their debt.

  58. SueK,

    Thank God, you knew well enough to call the ambulance probably minutes before you became delirious. We are all happy you are here today.

  59. carmen // November 22, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    I’m in Southern Ky, where’d you go hunting??

  60. Maddie // November 22, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Hi Maddie,

    Be glad to. Check your e-mail in a few minutes :).

    Cricket will be hugged from Maddie!

  61. Just Me, What do you expect will be done about this? I’ve reached a point where I’m having a hard time in believing in any kind of justice any more. The judges are even all bought and paid for…how will this play out? What makes you so optimistic?

  62. JJ, Thanks for telling me about your experience. It is good information for me and I’m glad you’re better!

  63. Guess Who?

    I just found out someone else has made
    disparaging (sp?) remarks about Sarah Palin.
    The source is my husband who heard it on
    a TV “Entertainment” type show he said….
    this person was asked if she’d read Palin’s book…
    answer was no, and what followed were “put downs” on Sarah.

    ClueI: This person also recently “put down”
    Rachel Ray.
    ClueII: This person, unfortunately, is an
    elite snob.
    ClueIII: This person knows what “3 hots and a cot” are from personal experience.

  64. Hi Maddie: I’m never up late enough to catch up with up. I read your comments in the morning when I try to read what I missed. So sorry for what you are going through with your parents. Just want to let you know that I was like you (not able to be the one to enforce anything on my Mom). She did need help, though I think I was in denial. My older sister was the leader. She lived out of state & came back here for a couple of weeks on a mission to move her to assisted living. She took my Mom there to “stay for a night or 2) & slept there with her to help her adjust. Of course Mom stayed there. My Mom had Alzheimer’s, so I can’t really compare it to your situation. You mention that your parents have dimentia. One suggestion is if you or their Dr. suspects it coulf be leading to Alz., the book to read to understand the different stages is ‘The 36-Hour Day”. To make a long story short, someone else did what I could not bear to do. It was enough to see my Mom & help her with writing checks, food shopping, doctors, taking meds, etc. on a daily basis like you are doing. Someone else had to help me through and do the really hard stuff-I couldn’t do it. It was a very tough time for me, as I know it is for you. Just want to let you know you are NOT ALONE and you’re doing exactly what you meant to do. Hope I typed that right & got the message through. Am up late tonight for a change (just got back from the movies with daughter, son-in-law & grandson, so thought maybe I could catch you. God Bless You.

  65. JJ, We were at Land between the Lakes. On the KY. Tn. line close to Dover,Tn. Most beautiful with Bison, Elk, Eagles and about anything you can imagine over 60,000 acres. I am not a hunter but I loved the 1850’s settlement….

  66. Just Me – curious, who are some of the other environmental players you’ve discovered in on this conspiracy of fraud? I know Sierra Club is in the thick of it, but what other groups might you be aware of? I know The Nature Conservancy was chaired by Paulson before he went to the WH and I know that they’ve been extraordinarily enriched to buy up a lot of land. Are they one of the groups? If so, let me know and if not the same. What other groups?

  67. Venice,
    May I please second that?

    Mega Dittos that SueK is here with us–Hooray!

  68. Maddie

    It’s Martha Stewart! Talk about a narcissist!

  69. SueK // November 22, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    I’m curious—are there different strengths??
    Are there different manufacturers??
    My cost was $25 for a bottle of 16 oz.

  70. Nancy,
    How nice of you to touch base with me. Your words are a big comfort and yes, it is very difficult. Tonight my mother called me her “sister.” That did break my heart. Her sister my aunt passed away from cancer in England a number of yrs. ago. I hope my mother doesn’t really think I’m her sister.
    I will check into the book you recommend.
    What is so strange is that so many times I think she is on target about something, then she’ll say something like “where’s my bedroom.” Very odd. It’s a learning experience for us all.
    Nancy, thank you so much. You are very kind.

  71. We have a WINNER @10:59

    Kidmon, you guessed right.

  72. SueK.

    Peace 🙂

  73. need to get a bit of rest, signing off for now

    God bless you all and Happy, happy Thanksgiving coming up.

  74. Maddie // November 22, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    Was reading your post and have a question:
    What is “medical” stress? Thanks
    Maddie, I don’t have the correct terminology for these ……….like a physical discomfort of repeatedly gall bladder attacks to me is medical stress….
    But, a mental stress is like losing a job, or extreme anxiety or depression from losing a loved one.
    Sorry, I don’t have the paperwork at hand, but have read there are two causes for the outbreak of shingles.

    I read Oldsalt’s problems and I was so fortunate to have caught my case early…………..
    My cousin was our pharmacist and I refused at first to fill the prescription @ $150 and he told my husband to tell me that it was one thing to never refuse and as I see and read the seriousness of shingles, I now understand why he told this.

  75. Maddie-
    I remember seeing the DMSO story on TV years ago I’m pretty sure it was on 60 minutes.
    Not everyone has ignored the genius of Tesla, the guys in California named a car company after him.
    Watts Up! Our Tesla Coil Generates Up to 50,000 Volts of Electricity! $289.00
    Our unique 50,000 volt capacity generator radiates high frequency energy through space or light flourescent tubes up to two feet away!
    High frequency generator utilizes an alternating current, electro-magnetically operated interrupter buzzer, high voltage inductive coil transformer and a mono-polar, high-frequency transformer generator.
    Generator is housed in a 6-inch square, and 2-inch high plastic safety cover with insulated base. The high frequency is produced in the form of decrement waves, resulting in an output rich in harmonics.
    Includes standard bulb socket which enables user to connect radiator to coil top, small neon lamp, discharge electrode, two radiation antenna plates and book describing 21 experiments.
    This 115V, 60Hz. unit stands 11″ high without attachments. With six foot grounded cord and plug.
    – Friday, May 11, 2007
    Reviewed By: bob (ontario, california)
    super cool man!!!

    – Thursday, February 05, 2009
    Tesla Coil
    Reviewed By: Dave Shike (Munster, Indiana)
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  76. venice // November 22, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    I’d called my pet sitter and she knew something was radically wrong; she told me about what I tried to say after I was discharged. Then, I called 9-1-1, and I thank the Lord for reverse 9-1-1 because I wasn’t coherent. They found me.

    Thanks, Venice…I’m happy I’m here, too!!!

  77. JJ // November 22, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Hi JJ,

    Many different manufacturers out there, and through my research, the silver content can vary according to which manufacturer you use. I selected the best I could find.

    The South is the expert on this, so she may want to add her two cents :).

  78. The South // November 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    You betcha, dag nab it. Peace it is, my friend :).

  79. A medical condition can cause stress , stress can cause a medical condition to get worst , a vicious cycle ,IBS for example.

  80. Good Night all. I can’t wait to hear what the radio and TV say about the Global Warming Fraud!

    1 Fraud down! It’s a Big Step! Maybe, just Maybe they have hacked into Bammys School records also. Can you believe is was the Russians!

  81. Maddie: My Mom would refer to me as her “good friend for many years” & then later thought her clothes were from her high school days. She couldn’t remember her morning, but had vivid memories of her younger years. No short-term memory, but long-term memory was pretty good. That book is very good. I’m here for you, I mean it, too.

  82. SueK.

    I’m curious, did your Doctor tell you that the silver made you sick? and if so, what exactly did he say the reason was?

    You’ve got to be the first recorded case in human history of colloidal silver making someone deathly ill, and if this is truly the case, we need to launch a nationwide campaign on it’s danger to all!

    I’m very serious, if the “colloidal silver” was what made you deathly ill, we need to know what you doctor said.

    I’ll start the nationwide campaign myself.

  83. ticktock // November 22, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    JJ, Thanks for telling me about your experience. It is good information for me and I’m glad you’re better!
    Thanks, ticktock, that was in 2000, and for anyone who ever has shingles, even a mild case as mine will have you wearing loose overalls for a couple of weeks……the rash is on your mid-section full circle around your body….and my symptom that sent me to the ER was the back pain……not the rash, in the middle of night…nurse took one look at the rash and asked how long I had had shingles….smart nurse.

  84. I noticed in the SNL piece the allusions to Obamas problems with alternating and direct current were not vieled as they have been for some time. They were so “out there” you could not miss the direct assult to Obamas manhood? or lack thereof.
    The guys at hillbuzz have been stating for awhile he was quite well known in the gentlemen and only for gentlemen bath houses in Chicago. Seemed to be very well known there for a long time. I wonder if something is getting to “explode” in that area, so many lies, so little time. No matter how hard they try they cannot put out all the lies, impossible.

  85. carmen // November 22, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Yes, beautiful country.
    Fort Donelson is a great place to visit in Dover.
    I’m from Springfield (57 years) and now about 50 miles from Dover.

  86. Michelle,

    I think Larry Sinclair may be the best to answer that. After all he is running for Congress.

    Fifteen months ago he couldn’t even have his interview in Puerto Rico aired. They squashed it in a New York second. Now he’s running and he can advertise this on his blog. That’s a big change.

  87. d2i,

    have to find my list. As I said there are several. In addition to the 2 you already mentioned the ones I remember off the top of my head (because I donated money to them) were World Wild Life Fund and Ocean Conservancy.

    Speaking of donating money, a production manager I worked with at the agency had previously worked for a tele-evangelist. And did she have some stories!!! This was the beginning of my “awakening.” A promo this particular evangelist had done asked you to send in money along with your prayer request. In return you received a prayer cloth wrapped in this swell little box with a personalized note.

    Well, an investigative reporter decided to do a story – back when we had real investigative reporters – about him and ended up digging through the dumpster for his expose.

    It literally ruined him. She said it was sad knowing that some of these poor people would do without food and send money to this man. Again, the power of advertising. I know it first hand.

    I will have to look through my bookmarks and provide a link to the list. I’ll post tomorrow. Soros is not the only one behind these. The other usual names such as the Rockefeller’s shows up again and again.

    These so called environmental groups were fronts for the big agenda, as you know.

  88. Sorry,

    I should correct that. He did have his interview aired, but within a day the interviewers recanted Larry’s statements.

  89. SueK, what was the brand name of the colloidal silver that you had?

  90. carmen-My sisters live by Land between the Lakes very low taxes there if anyone is thinking of retiring.

  91. Kim that’s a good question for SueK,

    Who made the silver you were using?

  92. The South // November 22, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Yup, The South, he did.

    Food poisoning or any other malady was ruled out (that’s what the manufacturer tried to tell me). They also tried to tell me that they’ve never heard of a reaction like this. Well, there’s a first for everything!

    My doc knows my medical history (I’ll spare you) but he said that my condition (and labs) pointed to a poisoning of my system (mostly the G.I. system due to multiple surgeries), rather than a purge of the bad stuff via Herxheimer.

    I don’t have his medical notes or the hospital records (just the bloody bill!), but can certainly get them.

    Now, my situation may very well be unique and I wouldn’t damn the stuff for anyone else who wants to try it, but if you have existing medical issues, I sure would double check to see if it’d be OK to use.

    Hang onto that campaign and I’ll get the records!

  93. Kim // November 22, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Hi Kim and The South,

    The company is Purest Colloids and the brand name was MesoSilver. They’re in NJ.

  94. SueK.

    If you have your Doctors medical notes, and he specifically says in those notes that colloidal silver in and of itself (nothing else) is what made you sick, then you can get my email addy from CW and send me his statement with his lab results and his signature stating that he confirms without the shadow of a doubt that it was the ”colloidal silver” by itself that made you sick, and I’ll send it to everyone I know that sells silver.

    I would also suggest you file a lawsuit against the mfg. but to do that you will need irrefutable proof (ie: blood test, doctors signature) and lab samples proving that the ”colloidal silver” in and of itself is what made you sick.

    If your doctor is willing to make a sworn testimony and provide lab results confirming what you’ve said, then you will be a multi-millionaire.

    Let me make this clear; you will need your doctor to sign a sworn affidavit stating that he acknowledges it was the “colloidal silver” and the “colloidal silver” by itself that made you deathly ill. He will need to provide blood samples, lab results, etc. proving his claim.

    If I were you, I’d start litigation, but only if you have irrefutable proof that it was the silver alone that made you sick.

  95. ticktock,

    I get it. We all had reached that point. That’s why this is so exciting. This is huge! Every country was on the hook for this massive tax scheme the PRIVATE bankers were trying to pull off, not to mention the control over our lives as a result of global warming scam. The premise for a one world government was based on GLOBAL WARMING. Now that it’s been proven the entire thing is fraudulent, it changes everything. Yes, it will take time to unravel all of this, but meanwhile we have to spread the word far and wide.

    The healthcare bill was steeped in this entire scam of our carbon footprint/credits. It was a part of the determining factor if we could even be seen by a doctor – forget treatment. I posted a rather lengthy explanation of this on another thread.

    A few weeks ago at a conference in Barcelona, the whole lot of African delegates walked out because the rich elite were not offering any development aid to them. Yet, they were on the hook for carbon taxes. What was proposed to them amounted to genocide for a population on the brink of starvation already.

    Other countries weren’t on board just yet with it either.


  96. jbjd-the 3 card monte analogy was perfect. No wonder I had such a hard time understanding it. I’m going to read it again tomorrow when I’m not so tired, you have a lot of information packed in that page. How you figured this tangled web is amazing, I know you have been diligently working on it for a long time. I was wondering about the “officer of the court” lawyers suborning perjury issues, thank you for explaining that. I may not know much in this life, but I do know, that no person likes to be played for a sucker- ever. I think all involved will rue the day they decided to go along with this grandiose scheme which thankfully is starting to unravel. Hopefully this next part goes at warp speed, instead of the turtle speed up to this point. Look at all the time and trouble you and others have saved our country with information as to players and paperwork all over the net. Great job by jbjd, her son and her students.

  97. The South // November 22, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    I’ll see what I can get from ‘the pros.’

    To be honest, I don’t have the stamina for a law suit; I’m just glad I survived it and learned a valuable lesson from the experience.

    I’m also a former Paralegal and I know that suits such as this take years; I don’t know if I have ‘years’ at this point.

    Let me see what the notes say (sometimes the verbal aspect of something isn’t written down, but my doc’s very good). Perhaps the hospital notes will have more info than the doctor’s notes.

    Will let you know, and thanks for the suggestion!


  98. I am currently taking the same brand: Mesosilver, and I have taken up to 7 tblsp in a day. It has helped me tremendously with the remnents of my swine flu symptoms.
    I have had no side effects except a slight stomach ache immediately following which goes away in mins.

  99. SueK.

    Also, if you can prove it was specifically the silver that made you sick, I’m sure the mfg. would send you a check for that $2,300.00 you spent…..gladly!

    But make sure you get that sworn affidavit from your doctor, or you could be liable for a countersuit.

    If your doctor is willing to put his ass and name on the line by signing that affidavit, I’d say your case is a winner, but if he’s not, I’d drop it, so you don’t get counter sued.

    I’ve never had any problem using colloidal silver and I haven’t even had a cold since I started using it, and I’ve turned atleast 30 people onto it, and a few of them have had viruses that it killed on impact.

    Yours could be a unique case though, so get that doctors sworn affidavit, and we’ll see you in Bora-Bora $$$

  100. d2i,

    here’s one of the sites that has a lot of info. The other site looks to have been taken down. Gee. What a surprise.

    from the same site

    just click around on the different links, you’ll be surprised.

  101. Michelle,

    Thank you so much. I am exhausted, too. (If you think reading this takes a long time, you can imagine how much time it took for me to write this!)

    I know this article contains a lot of information. After you have had time to digest this, let me know what you decide to do, at the end!

  102. Thanks for the info Just Me, This does sound encouraging. I’m so glad that the truth is finally coming out. I’m not scientist, but I’ve smelt a fish from the get-go on this. When I’d try to give people my perspective, I’d get the ol’ “the earth is flat” speeches as if I’m a close minded uneducated idiot…you know, the stuff the ELITISTS have been dishing out for so long. I’ve been weary of it for so long, I can’t tell you how hopeful I am that this is going stomp out this whole global warming thing once and for all. Forgive me for having my doubts. : )

    What can we all be doing? Should we just try to spread the information far and wide?

  103. Fraud .? Feud ? , dyslexia or cover for Gore ?.

    FOX news , shout out on the CRU climategate plays dyslexia . Reports the thousands of email between the scientist shows they have an on going feud over climate data .

  104. IPCC Researchers Admit Global Warming Fraud

    Climatologist Patrick J. Michaels challenged that position. “This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud.” The e-mails implicate scores of researchers, most of whom are associated with the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an organization many skeptics believe was created exclusively to provide evidence of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).

  105. Health Care Bill will leave 12 million Uninsured.So that means we gained only 2 million people to be insured . Wow!! This is a really good bill they came up with.

  106. Video: Democrats Try to Explain ‘$300 Million Dollar Bribe’ in Health Care Bill

    Change Player Size Watch this video in a new windowDemocrats Befuddled On $300M “Bribe” For Sen. Mary Landrieu

    The Washington Post reported on a provision in the health reform bill that would give the state of Louisiana – whose Senator, Mary Landrieu, is indecisive on health reform – $300 million. “The promise of the Obama campaign is to change the way Washington works,” CNN’s John King asks Sen. Sherrod Brown. King argues that this process is “Washington as usual, is it not?” Brown and Sen. Jeanne Shaheen were tongue-tied as to how to answer the question at first.

  107. Video: Senate Minority Leader on Health Bill: ‘Wrong Direction to Go’

    The night after the Senate gets 60 votes to proceed on debating health care reform, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell shares his thoughts on what to expect with CNN’s John King.

    “We know the American people don’t want us to do this,” McConnell argued, adding that the bill is “the wrong direction to go.” “It drives the cost up for Americans… This bill is a job killer.”

    King then asks McConnell to explain why health reform was not proposed during the Bush administration. McConnell said that it would be futile because “we didn’t have the votes to pass it.” He also proposed that the balance of the “failure” of the stimulus package be repealed.

    McConnell also responds to a “challenge” made by Dick Durbin for an alternative (“there’s nothing on the Internet,” Durbin said). “We’re not planning on having a 2,000-page bill,” McConnell said.

  108. Tom Coburn On Health Care Reform: “It’s Really Malpractice!”

    A roundtable discussion on “This Week” with Senators Ben Nelson and Tom Coburn, and Reps. Marsha Blackburn and Debbie Wasserman Schultz following the vote to start debate on the Senate floor on health care reform. Among the highlights: Nelson clarifying his cloture vote; and Coburn likening the bill to “malpractice.”

  109. zachjonesishome

    Good Morning!

  110. Good morning.

  111. Congress Gets the ‘Pink Slip’

    Voters send their reps a message with mail-in campaign

  112. c.n.d.e. ville II

    < >

    Governor Huckabee:

    If, amidst the fast and furious flurry of articles and posts at this site, I have inadvertently overlooked your posted reply to me here at the CW Blog, may I ask you to graciously re-post, perhaps with a large header?

    I may be checking in only sporadically during this Thanksgiving week. However, I am most eager to hear from you, should your schedule permit you the time to respond to my recently posted letter to you.

    To you, and to all posters and readers at this site:

    God’s richest blessing to you and yours this blessed Christmastide.

    Glory to God in the Highest, indeed,

    as we celebrate the advent of the gift most precious to God’s heart

    and most cherished by all of Heaven:

    God’s only-begotten Son, graciously offered before us all,

    incarnate, as a gentle infant, vulnerable, and resting in a simple manger.

    Emmanuel, God with us. Glad tidings of astonishingly stunning joy!

    “In Him is life, and the life is the light of all.” John 1:4
    The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

    When evildoers assail me, uttering slanders against me, my adversaries and foes, they shall stumble and fall.

    Though a host encamp against us, our hearts shall not fear; though war arise against us, yet we will be confident.

    For he will hide us in his shelter in the day of trouble, he will conceal us under the cover of his tent, he will set us high upon a Rock.

    Wait for the Lord; be strong and let our hearts take courage; yes, wait for the Lord. Psalms 27

    Happy Thanksgiving, too.

  113. Venice, and all

    the article on the global warming scam EXPOSED in the DailyMail UK is an excellent read. I would encourage all here on CW to read it.

    I was disappointed to see it was still a small headline this morning on Drudge. Washington Examiner doesn’t have it profiled either. New York times, as the other article/blog post you linked too WON’T publish it as they were complicit in pushing the whole scam. In fact, they are mentioned in one of the thousands of emails/documents the “white hat” hackers retrieved.

    If we don’t hear the radio hosts talking about this, we need to shake their trees until they do. THIS is our future handed back to us and we must not let up!

  114. **************NEW POST UP**************

  115. Good morning America! It’s good to be alive today..Much game changing info over the week end…Can’t wait to hear how it plays out…The libs will be acting up over the climate change lie……We continue to fight the good fight of faith..There was never a victory without a battle. Fight till we win!! God bless you all!!

  116. acqlyn Smith // November 23, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Everybody here….go to the website and vote….there is also a phone number to call….I am going to call this morning and ask if they can move the billboard to DC in front of where the Senate Debates the Death Care Bill after Thanks giving and maybe get around the clock protesting going…..I wish I lived closer because I for one would be up there at least once a week protesting this Unconstitutional Bill and our illegal POTUS….Pass this far and wide…..every blog and every email contact you have….found at…..,0,2612065.story


    Anti-Obama billboard stirs controversy

    KDVR Denver

    6:20 PM MST, November 20, 2009
    Anti-Obama Billboard

    The Anti-Obama billboard at 4855 Miller Street in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. (November 20, 2009)
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    WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. – Call it Freedom of Speech. A billboard recently erected in Wheat Ridge compares President Barack Obama to a terrorist and questions his U.S. citizenship.

    The billboard, located at 4855 Miller Road, shows two cartoonish images of Obama wearing a Muslim turban and reads “PRESIDENT or JIHAD?”

    It also says “BIRTH CERTIFICATE – PROVE IT!” alluding to the conspiracy theory which claims Barack Obama was born in Kenya rather than Hawaii, which would disqualify him for the office of President.

    The words “WAKE UP AMERICA! REMEMBER FT. HOOD!” appear on the bottom of the billboard.

    The sign belongs to a car dealership.

    “Since Fort Hood, I’ve had it,” owner Phil West told FOX 31 News Friday. “You can’t suggest things. You can’t profile. You gotta call a spade a spade.”

    “Everything I have read about Mr. Obama points right to the fact that he is a Muslim. And that is the agenda of what Muslim is all about. It’s about anti-American, it’s about anti-Christianity,” West said.

    The Anti-Defamation League condemned the sign, as did AM760 radio host David Sirota, who discussed the sign and interviewed West on his program Friday morning.

    “It’s out of control,” Sirota said. “This conservative hatred of Barack Obama is out of contol, and this brings together all those strands of it: the racism, the anti-Muslim fervor. It’s one thing to criticise the president on health care, or Wall Street reform, or immigration. But this is outrageous. And I think it’s a fair question to ask why these questions about religion and ancestry are being directed so viciously at the first African-American President of the United States.”

    While the ADL issued a statement calling the billboard an exploitation of the Ft. Hood shootings that is “divisive and offensive, and perpetuates hateful and harmful stereotypes about Muslims”, prominent conservatives have been silent thus far.

    “That could suggest that conservative leaders are afraid to confront the extreme fringe of their base,” Sirota said. “Or it suggests they actually condone this message. Either way, it’s disturbing.”

    Sirota is an unabashed liberal, but not all self-identified conservatives who drove past the sign Friday disagree with him.

    “I’m not concerned with that at all,” said Linda Alexander, of Golden, in regard to the dispute over President Obama’s American citizenship. “He was elected, he’s the president — that’s it, as far as I’m concerned. Some people just can’t accept that, obviously.”

    But Keith Walters, another passing driver, saw nothing wrong with the billboard.

    “I can’t honestly say he’s a Jihadist, but there’s a lot of things that are questionable,” Walters said. “The whole birth certificate controversy. From what I’ve read, there’s no proof Obama isn’t a Muslim. And I don’t believe there’s any racism [in the billboard]. I think that should be a question asked to any president who — they have some questionable backgrounds.”

    Supporters of the birth certificate theory, known as ‘Birthers,’ believe the Certification of Live Birth produced by the state of Hawaii is a forgery.

  117. Obama Nation Billboard Draws Attention
    New Sign Along I-70 Has Motorists Talking

    BLUE SPRINGS, Mo. — Drivers on Interstate 70 can barely see the billboard but once they do the message has been gaining attention.

    The billboard is located along I-70 between the Adams Dairy Parkway and the Grain Valley exits. The billboard reads, “How do you like your change now? Obama Nation. They are coming for you! The Taxpayer. First and Second Amendments are in jeopardy. Live free or Die.” There is also a hammer and sickle on the sign.

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