Kerchner V Obama, Congress, October 25, 2009, Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo, The Real Kerchner v Obama & Congress Case Is On Its Way to the Higher Courts of Justice

Just in from Charles Kerchner of Kerchner V Obama, October 25, 2009.

24 October 2009

“The ‘Real’ Kerchner v. Obama & Congress Case Is On Its Way to the Higher Courts of Justice”

An essay by Attorney Mario Apuzzo on the recent decision by federal Judge Simandle in the Kerchner v. Obama & Congress lawsuit.

I agree with my attorney, Mario Apuzzo.

The REAL case will soon be going to the higher courts on appeal, and then to Washington DC ultimately to the U.S. Supreme Court. And the case the higher courts will hear on the merits will not be the imaginary straw-man version the case that Judge Simandle presented in his Opinion this week. The REAL case is about a core, basic, black-letter written, verbatim clause in the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, as to who is eligible to be the President and Commander-in-Chief of the military per our founders and framers of the Constitution. Our Constitution is the guarantor of our Liberty! We cannot let any part of it be ignored by a Usurper. Ultimately the U.S. Supreme Court will have to decide this historic Article II case based on its merits, or our Constitutional Republic is history. And said history and “We the People” will record well and ultimately hold directly accountable those who are actively directly involved and also the enablers who are attempting to destroy our Constitution and Republic and participating in the cover-up. The facts and truth can only be sealed and hidden so long. Sooner or later the Obama fraud and cover-up will all be exposed. The truth will be told in a court of law and Obama and his enablers will be judged and held accountable for what they have done.

Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.
Lead Plaintiff
Kerchner v Obama & Congress

From Mario Apuzzo’s article:

“A court cannot refuse to hear a case on the merits merely because it prefers not to due to grave social or political ramifications. As we have seen, the Court’s opinion dismissing the Kerchner complaint/petition did not address the real Kerchner case but rather looked for a way to dismiss the case without having to reach the merits of the question of whether Obama is an Article II “natural born Citizen.” It is my hope that the public will take the time to read the Kerchner complaint/petition and the legal briefs that I filed supporting and opposing the defendants’ motion to dismiss so that it can learn first hand what the Obama eligibility case is really about and draw an intelligent and informed decision on whether Obama is constitutionally qualified to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military. We are now working on filing our appeal to the Third Circuit Court of Appeal in Philadelphia which court we hope will decide our case dispassionately.”


162 responses to “Kerchner V Obama, Congress, October 25, 2009, Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo, The Real Kerchner v Obama & Congress Case Is On Its Way to the Higher Courts of Justice

  1. Please emphasize to the court that this case being brought is certainly NOT a political case but a Constitutional one. No one is asking for judgment on any policy made or being made by this man in office, but his very right to have the power to do so as he is ineligible under the Constitution. And emphasize that that ineligibility is presented by Mr. Obama himself (no need for discovery) in his own statements re: the circumstances of his birth – that he himself admits to being born as a dual citizen due to his British citizenship. Please emphasize what is known … not what is unknown. Make them deal WITH WHAT IS KNOWN and recognized by Obama himself and by what everyone already has seen – that COLB which itself is proof of this dual citizenship. No court has dealt with that proof yet. They cannot ignore it. It provides the evidence for the Constitutional question before the court. Don’t let them get away with the smokescreen of some Political question.

  2. Don’t forget the SSN Verifier received by the Ohio P.I., that has the date ‘1890’ in it (not a birth-date), which just so happens to be the date of the Anglo-German Treaty that gave Britain the Kenya Colony and Protectorate (popularly known as the ‘Heligoland-Zanzibar Treaty’ of July 1, 1890), and the reflective dates of 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961, which appears to tell us that a document which employs a British birth-date format is on file with the U.S. Government’s Social Security Administration, and has been since 1979.

    This is certainly something simple that Congress could have asked for, and didn’t! (But they did in the case of John Sidney McCain, III). Now, the Federal Court should ask for it, in the case of Barack Hussein Obama, II!

    Why? Because if you father and your elder brothers descend to the rights of a British subject, then, — so do you, Mr. Obama!

  3. MADDIE:

    Bates Rd. in Jackson NJ is just a residential area. I did notice one office in Brick, NJ, just down the road from me.

  4. Maddie,
    I haven’t caught up on reading so I don’t know if any of this was posted …

    From a couple of threads ago. I came across that VB story that I linked while surfing. I also came across an article that told a little about her background. I can’t find the article again. It said she was born and raised in San Fran, CA. It mentioned the schools she went to, which included Columbia. It said she worked for BO in his “04” !!!!! campaign. It also mentioned the Brits threaten to leak the affair and she threatened a lawsuit. …??

    I found it by looking at “Inspector Smith” youtube home page. Someone had mentioned in the comment section – from last night – of his home page …the CariBiz ?? article. I googled that and came across the article I linked. But I did come across another one but can’t find it now. That was late last night. This morning … computer freaking out on me again. UGH!!!!
    This is some crazy stuff!!! How they get you on the computer!

  5. From previous thread.

    SueK posted a link that I thought was worth posting in full here, from OrlyTaitz:

    Alinsky theory: create chaos (epidemic) and people will agree to anything
    Posted on | October 25, 2009 | No Comments

    KBB Submitted on 2009/10/25 at 3:15am
    It was predictable that Obama would declare a nat’l emergency over this swine flu “epidemic”. It’s nothing more than his latest tactic to attempt to get Obamacare passed. He wants us to believe the world will fall off into a ditch unless the government jumps in and takes over the management of our health on this issue. Then…after this issue, it will be another, and another….etc. Interesting that, before the “emergency” was declared, most people did not want to take the vaccine. In today’s news, they have people lined up wanting to take it for 2 reasons: 1) Obama declared an emergency, and, 2) the vaccine is not available. Put those 2 things together, and people will clamor for what they perceive they require and can’t get. One of Alinsky’s rules: create chaos (the epidemic) and the people will agree to any solution, even against their better judgment (government-run healthcare).

  6. JJ // October 25, 2009 at 11:14 am

    venice // October 25, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Yep, and while you ponder this question(since the admin, WH, always are first treated) ask the question, how many congress members have been vaccinated??

    JJ // October 25, 2009 at 11:06 am

    The Boo! Obama Campaign

    John, someone already started this campaign….
    highway sign……


    JJ // October 25, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Michelle // October 24, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    All that’s fine if you buy the parentage story of SAD and the drunk Obama, Sr., which I don’t.

    Where this vulture came from will never be exposed!!!

  7. It appears Soetoro and the goon squad that hijacked Congress really are following in the footsteps of Chavez. Take a look at this interesting article dated back in 1999:

    I am going to take a guess and say that the Constitution will be destroyed and a new on proposed. Obviously the conservatives of this nation won’t stand for it no matter how miserable we become. But, they’re just dumb enough to try it.

  8. That would be one, not on.

  9. JeffM,

    If you don’t mind me repeating it. Bill Clinton last November, pretty much said the Constitution is being rewritten for the eligibility issue. Of course, Bill is usually oblique in the most important statements he makes, but the message was indisputable.

    But why stop there?

  10. Morning JJ,

    Bringing you over from the last thread.

    Dig this:

    Is there now any question of an attempt to cull the population?

  11. SueK,

    There are many adjuvants clearly for vaccines and squalene seems to be the most adverse.

    I’m curious to know, which have been deemed to be the least harmful?

  12. JeffM……………………………………
    Sadly the time to rise up was months ago. I doubt that little can be done now to head off what I believe is coming. We can only hope that Orly is sucessful the rest of the way. As for Kerschner, it probably will not get past the apellate court,or any higher court for that matter. I personally believe that the National Emergency is a tool which will permit Soetoro to sidetrack ALL pending litigation against him, for as long as he chooses. Until the alleged National Emergency can be struck down he is holding all the trump cards. Now we have to proove that he is using the national emergency to keep him in office. Many of us have been expecting either a National Emergency, or Martial Law. The latter could be sprung if anybody tries to take him down physically.

  13. venice // October 25, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Hi Venice,

    I don’t know of an adjuvant that would be considered ‘safe’ at this point.

    The new kid on the block, aluminum hydroxide (alum) is being tested right now, but if you realize that any adjuvant’s intent is to cause a stronger immune response to the vaccine, you’re playing with fire.

    The body recognizes adjuvants as a foreign invader and mounts an immune response….sometimes, too much of an immune response which can cause severe illness or death. This is why we’ve been hearing of perfectly healthy, athletic people dying after receiving vaccines.

    I don’t trust this administration, the WHO, the CDC, or big Pharma to do what’s in the best interest of the population. All they see are dollar signs.

    I could tell you many stories about my gigs in the Pharma and Biotech industries which would curl your hair…

  14. Re: the Flu “Emergency”, they really can handle this all right. First thing they do is run out of
    vaccine, how smart is that? Obama will not have his children vaccinated at cost to him $0.00, what does that tell you?
    Real Emergencies that affect people what if we were hit with another Katrina?, Hurricane Andrew in South Florida? government could not get supplies to the people, the local, and people in the State of Florida got the necessary food and water down there. Practically everyone in the State volunteered and donated food. I know I saw it-semi after semi after semi. To all the people outside Florida thank you every little bit helped believe it. The year Florida went into the Greek alpabet, we were hit pretty good, power out my house one week, some people months. Thank you to all the in-state, out of state electrical people who restored power. One of the guys from an electric company some where up North summed it up really well.” This is my third trip to Florida and I still haven’t seen the ocean.” Recent flooding in Georgia. I would not bet on the Government, maybe they sign things, but the real work is done, by the locals and the states. The hard work as everyone knows who has done this work is by WE THE PEOPLE. Hot, sweaty, exhausting. I think the response by Obama team and this SUPER FAKE emergency is going to blow up in their lying stupid faces. Look for ACORN type scandals to be involved.

  15. We need for him to make a mistake with respsct to his handling of military matters. If he tries to micromanage the war himself he could incurr the wrath of the joint chiefs opon him, which could result in his arrest by the military.If they are corrupted like our SCOTUS, and other US Courts then all bets are off,

  16. SueK,

    Thanks. First hand knowledge is the best kind.

    The adverse effects on the immune system explains the findings (I don’t have the immediate link) that those weather the illness well, are also those who weather the vaccine (presumably with adjuvants) better than others, which of course defeats the point of having the vaccine in the first place bc the vaccine purportedly is to protect vulnerable populations. It is otherwise just a flu, an annoyance with possible lost days at work and school but not fatal.

  17. venice // October 25, 2009 at 11:17 am


    I’m surprised they let the bag out of the cat on Obama’s girls. They’re going to try and scrub that one too. But of all the, girls are the most telling of all, so now the world knows.

    If I interpret the Orly site information correctly, the declaration that there is a H1N1 vaccine shortage, the manufacturers are then allowed to play with the recipe and include adjuvants that are untested and possibly dangerous to the patient; therefore, just saying the supply is low meets their objective as unclear as that may be.

  18. One way a citizen can tell what is going on also is I was at Mass last night and our Church is big and it was packed not one cough, during the entire Mass. Another way your local grocery store-if half the checkers are missing you know something is going around, I saw much worse years ago during a flu season.

  19. JJ-when you were talking about Obama’s girls duh I get it now, you meant the children. I thought you were talking about Vera Baker and
    there are probably others. I hope as a group they are not too expensive.

  20. venice // October 25, 2009 at 11:11 am

    In today’s news, they have people lined up wanting to take it for 2 reasons: 1) Obama declared an emergency, and, 2) the vaccine is not available. Put those 2 things together, and people will clamor for what they perceive they require and can’t get.

    Or 3) when there is a lack of vaccine(since they’ve only been making since , what a year ago?sarcasm)the government gives the okay to water down with any adjuvant untested and likely dangerous to the patient??

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  22. venice // October 25, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Ya know, Venice, I’ve always been a proponent of letting nature take its course; yes, there are many bugs out there, but I feel that with each exposure to some sort of bug, our immune system gets so much better. Now, that’s not to say that if you catch something you shouldn’t be treated, but the *exposure* is what keeps the system rolling.

    Look at this novel H1N1 flu-it’s targeting the 5-18 year old kids rather than older folks. Although we oldies haven’t been exposed to this particular strain, we have to many others in our lifetimes. The immune system is doing its job.

    So, you’re right-it’s just a flu.

    The major problem with this or any other ‘new’ vaccine is effects down the road; we just don’t have any clinical data yet and don’t know what’ll happen to vaccinated people in 5, 10, 15 years. This is why any rush to produce and distribute a new vaccine perks up my ears.

    I truly feel for the citizens of Germany who will be subjected to the poison vaccine. Hopefully, many have done their research and will refuse the vaccine.

  23. JJ,

    It’s a sad truth that it takes a psychopathic mind to know one (unless you’ve had either personal or professional experience).

    Most Americans are hard-working, law abiding citizens. There was little that could prepare them for this debacle, yet here it is and still going on.

    This administration has instituted psychological warfare from its inception (and in this I’m including years of preparation before the election).

    Having said that, money is a powerful motivator. Nothing wrong with that, but a moral compass allows one to acquire money in a fair and just way. Having said that, there are always gradations of corruption. This administration exemplifies the worst in its history.

    There have been articles posted recently that support your point, and I’m sure SueK can attest to that, that adjuvants are not just a way to fire up one’s immunity, but also to increase the volume of supply. So you make a good point.

  24. SueK // October 25, 2009 at 11:37 am

    SueK, this was my first thought even as far back as last year…….you see, I beleive things I can’t even discuss here for fear of having the van and white smocks coming to my door…I’ve known by reading in the last 3 years where I think the trillions stolen are gone…….I’ll say no more.
    But, we shouldn’t make fun of my preposterous and far-fetched notions when only 18 months ago, who would have thought our topic would be a revolution using force to get an illegal alien thug from our White House.Now, I’ll read the link.
    My question to you was how have my husband and I gotten to our ages, 59 and 61, with never contracting a flu and never having a flu shot??

  25. Kerchner and Apuzzo need to convey this information clearly as this is all the proof one needs. We know the answer because the Constitution already provides it. Pay attention because this is important.

    The Naturalization Act of 1790 (March 26, 1790) clearly states:

    …the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States…

    Now you’re saying “what does the Naturalization Act of 1790 have anything to do with the Constitution?”

    The answer is simple:

    1. The Act was signed into law by the first President of the United States, George Washington. If you recall Washington worked with John Jay to get the “Natural-born” clause added to Article II, so he would never pass legislature that didn’t meet his definition.

    2. It’s easy to see from the phrase above that the father confers citizenship. Although this phrase in the law applies to overseas birth, it clearly states fathers conferred citizenship back in 1790.

    3. The term “resident” in the Act of 1790 meant “resident alien”. Because Obama Sr. was a non-resident alien, he could not confer any U.S. citizenship to Soetoro because he had no authority or permission to do so.

    4. There has been no immigration law since 1787 that has attempted to refine or alter the definition of Natural-born citizenship. Therefore the concept of natural-born citizenship as it was written in 1787 applies today, and only the Act of 1790 tried to refine it (that section was repealed in the Naturalization Act of 1795).

    5. Most of the framers of the Constitution were also part of the first Congress that passed this bill. They would have known that the father conferred natural-born citizenship.

    Lastly, the transfer of citizenship from Father to Son was confirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court decision on WEEDIN v. CHIN BOW back in (1927):

    No proof is needed. We already have it. All we need is an honest judge to see it this way and make a Constitutional decision instead of a political one.

  26. venice,

    They’ve been rewriting the Constitution illegally for over a century. No surprises here.

  27. You Decide

    What Should We Ask Obama?

    What issue would you like our correspondent to address in a question to the White House?

  28. JJ // October 25, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Yup, JJ, that’s what I think is in the works.

    Sparse supplies of H1N1 vaccine (seasonal flu vaccine, as well)…..the *perfect* opportunity to add a little something to the vials that will yield 20 shots instead of 10 for the ‘panicked population.’

    I think we all know what that ‘little something’ is….the one the gubmint has stockpiled ‘just in case it’s needed.’

  29. “What issue would you like our correspondent to address in a question to the White House?”

    There’s a question missing on the poll:

    When are you packing your bags and getting the hell out of the White House???

  30. JJ // October 25, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    I hear ya, JJ.

    If you had told me 18 months ago that this would be what’s happening today, I’d have called the white coats myself. Who ever would’ve thought we’d be at this point?

    Why have neither you nor your hubby gotten the flu? Good question! With some people, it’s their great constitution, good genes, or healthy living. Some are constantly exposed to bugs without ever getting sick. On the other hand, there are some of us who’ll catch a flu bug if it’s in the next county.

    Wish I had an answer for you, but whatever you two are doing, keep it up! 🙂

  31. Sue K-I agree with let nature take its course and build up a natural immunity. Our Dr. in Illinois was a great proponent of that. My favorite kind of doctor a good old fashioned GP.
    Sue you might know about this, after Mass last night I had to go to the grocery store. I don’t know if other folks have seen/smelled this in the stores but they have those brooms with Cinnamon all over them a really strong odor. Made me sneeze a lot, throat burn, eyes water-I told the guys to tell the manager those things should be outside. The odor is so strong you could choke. I wonder what chemical binds the cinnamon to the broom? or is that a chemical too? I sure wouldn’t want a baby near this.

  32. JeffM // October 25, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Good one, Jeff!

    Now, to go to the W.H. and ask it 🙂

    LM // October 25, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Hi LM,

    OK, I answered the poll.

    Tell me, why do people answer poll questions with ‘I don’t know?’

    Why bother to tale the poll if you dunno?????

  33. JeffM,

    I’m not arguing with you in substance about the Constitution, and its interpretation. You’re the expert here and I respect that.

    But if I hark back to Bill Clinton’s comments, his defence of the changes was premised on a NWO view.

    This is where the real fight is. This administration wants to tear down the rules pertaining to sovereignty.

    What bothers me even more, is that it is done illicitly and done under the pretense of a NWO, where in fact it is about raping the peons of society to serve the rich, of course the truly rich.

  34. Michelle // October 25, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Hi Michelle,

    My understanding is that cinnamon oil is used to dip the brooms thus, that strong scent. Any oil can be used (lavender, eucalytpus, etc.) but this is why you find these brooms wrapped in some sort of protective plastic covering…the scent can be that strong!

    I wouldn’t go near anything like this and for sure, wouldn’t put a baby near it!

  35. Michelle,

    Most so called natural fragrances, at least those with naturally occuring substances like cinnamon, are chemically produced. They have little or none of the organic substance which is why they are so offensive.

    These chemicals, irrespective of their constitution, are harmful. In some cases very harmful. There are well searched studies showing for example that exposure to air fresheners over the long term can cause serious lung damage. I agree with Sue, keep it away from babies, yourself, and anyone else you care about. In fact, start telling (I have) storekeepers, if you’re comfortable, that these are toxic substances again under the guise of something that are supposed to be pleasant.

  36. venice,

    I didn’t know we were arguing. I agree with you here. Clinton was but one of many “presidents” who have knowingly passed leglistature that undermines the laws of the land.

    We know there’s a larger force at work here. CONgrass knows this. They also know they will be encountering a revolutionary war because it’s the only solution to this bigger problem of sovereignty.

    We know there’s a peaceful solution, but no one in the federal regime wants it. They lose power. They lose their agenda. Sadly, they are the ones encouraging bloodshed, including their own.

    When people start to lose their jobs, their freedoms, and their food, the guns will come out of the closets and out from under the beds. Not pretty. I don’t want to be within 100 miles of any major city with high unemployment rates.

  37. The body recognizes adjuvants as a foreign invader and mounts an immune response….sometimes, too much of an immune response which can cause severe illness or death.

    SueK, are you suggesting that good cells are being targeted also as in the use of radiation for destroying cancerous cells??

  38. Said it before, when the shootin starts, I wouldnt want to be an African American, Mexican or foreign sounding/lookin!!

    Specially, when the pissed-off rednecks start shootin.

  39. I have been follwing the “natural born citizen” issue since I first learned of Phil Berg’s filing of his law suit in the Supreme court August 21, 2008. When I first learned of that I was so excited, because this would be national news (which it should have been), and Obama would either have to withdraw or would be defeated.

    Over a year later I am a sadder but much wiser person. The last of my innocence and naivete was lost this year. Now I am a cynical, heart broken old patriot.

    What I and all of you learned with me was the depth of corruption in the judicial system beginning with the small claims court judges and reaching all the way to the Supreme court. (At one time in my life I considered the Supreme Court the holiest of the holy. I saw them as angels protecting the most sacred American document–The Constitution.)

    When I saw Chief Justice Roberts swear Sotoero in and bungling the act, I felt as if I saw pure evil laughing at America. When Sonja Sotomayer was sworn in to the Supreme court, I lost the last straws of hope for any protection of our Constitution.

    The Kerhner case which we all have been following here on Citizenwells has been as professionally and righteously prepared and presented as any case could be presented. Just as many of the other cases challenging Sotoero’s eligibility. The Kerchner case should have been heard on its merits long before it has reached this point. As much as I want in all my heart and soul for Sotoero to produce the documents he is eligible, or check out of the WH, I fear this too, even if hear on its merits–will fail. If so, it will be all the more difficult for other cases because it will set a precedent for every judge to use.

    It isn’t just the issue of Sotoero’s eligibility, the brave legal warriors are fighting. The greater battle is the corruption of these judges who have either been bribed, intimidated, are incompetent, or simply don’t want to be the judge to declare Sotoero ineleigible. What a hullabaloo that would cause!

    May God help these courageous attorneys who are putting their careers on the line for America. No matter how small, we must never cease in looking for ways to support them, pray for them, contribute money for those who can spare it, and if they ask us for any help, do so.

  40. Michelle // October 25, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    One way a citizen can tell what is going on also is I was at Mass last night and our Church is big and it was packed not one cough, during the entire Mass. Another way your local grocery store-if half the checkers are missing you know something is going around, I saw much worse years ago during a flu season.

    Michelle, you are right on the money…….know how I can spot sinus season is really in full swing??

    Dollar General…….no sinus/allergy meds on the shelf……and yes, for me, generic, cheap brand is as well as name brand high-priced from Walgreens in my experience.

  41. JJ-stolen trillions, ???right now 2 men are trying to recover Madoff’s ill gotten booty. They will find it. It is hard work, but they know most of the money laundering tricks.
    We have many very smart people in this country who also have experience-gleaned from years of dogging criminal enterprises, drug and money laundering much etc.
    All Americans should know there are rewards for catching these creeps. It is called The Lincoln Law, people received 10 per cent of what is recovered for the national treasury. I am sure that there are many out there all ready doing this work.

  42. JeffM,

    Re: Your post at 12:44 above,

    In general over all, and specifically in all of the contested lawsuits against B.O; why hasn’t anyone really asked WHY Sen. Claire McCaskill tried not ONCE but TWICE, to amend the Natural Born requirement ?

    A dog can spot insincerity, but yet no one else can ?

    Maybe i missed it, but where has the proposed
    S. 2678 been used as a tool, as a cloud of title, if you will, to help crack the erroneous hetero suggestion, that the judiciary and the public have passively accepted as TRUTH ?

    The following link is interesting.

  43. JJ // October 25, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Could be, JJ, depending on how robust the immune response is. You may get to the point that your system is just overwhelmed by the response, creating a breakdown of body systems.

    This is why this is so dangerous.

  44. JeffM-@ 12:44 Thank you for the explanation, very easy to follow. Isn’t it sad 1 honest judge, actually it is a frightening concept. The citizens in all phases of life rely on these people. Civil, divorce, criminal.

  45. Jeff M @ 12:48 you crack me up. Would you like the honor of helping him pack?, I would just throw Michelle’s wardrobe right out the window.

  46. Sue K-@12:54. Thank you for your response-I mean it was ghastly strong, when your eyes tear and your throat hurts not a good sign. I will speak to the manager when I go back to the store. I told them employees I didn’t think it was good for them to be exposed to that all day long. I don’t hate the smell, it is just much too strong. Wonder if that will be the next product pulled due to problems.

  47. JeffM // October 25, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    All said and good wrapped up in one slick, decorated, beautiful package…………even I understood this well-explained dilemma.

    Now, the real question, who’s yo daddy??

  48. Michelle,

    I would just casually throw her to the “Lions.”

  49. Wow !

    Made the hair on my head stand up while reading it. Good article John !

  50. think all of us here consider the Constitution and all who serve it sacred, for me especially all our men and women who served honorably and proudly who died in the service of our country dating back to the Revolutionary War. If push comes to shove they will be there with us in spirit. All this over one guy-who is so not worth it, he is a plain old corrupt Chicago lowest of the low thug. There is not enough lipstick on the planet to disguise this pig. One stunt they haven’t pulled yet is when Obama in his role as Messiah walks on water using invisible wires. Wonder when that fake thing might occur.

  51. SueK

    What is specfic type of Vitamin D/D3 should we be taking for the immune system along with cider and sambucol.

  52. Here’s a good message from a veteran.

  53. OORAH !

    Just a song for our fighting men and woman of our United States Armed Forces !

    Your are remembered, including our noble dead.

  54. You would think, knowing they tried amending the Natural-Born requirement… he is not a NBC…add that info. to the court cases.

  55. JJ-I don’t know how many times they did blind taste tests in Chicago and Generic always won. Many cosmetics for us girls BEAUTY, the lower priced product was better, more effective. I think most of the money goes into “pretty” packaging-for the higher price.

  56. OT,

    In grocery store the other day and noticed headlines on the most recent Globe. Thinking of Gianni’s recent question on this blog, I quickly scanned the story. Again, Larry Sinclair’s picture appears. This was in the context of Beck being under attack from the WH.

    No evidence here, despite repeated attempts that anybody is being gagged where Obama is concerned. The Globe must be doing well, I never used to look at this magazine before.

  57. Jeff M-if our government was smart they would pull away from the brink via the Constitution as soon as possible.
    Jeff M
    “Sadly, they are the ones encouraging bloodshed, including their own.
    When people start to lose their jobs, their freedoms, and their food, the guns will come out of the closets and out from under the beds. Not pretty. I don’t want to be within 100 miles of any major city with high unemployment rates.”
    I don’t own a gun, I’m just not a gun person, but from what I read sales on guns/bullets through the roof.
    Does our government realize how much trouble common ordinary household items can do? A pound of sugar you can hold in your hand, you could knock out a lot of vehicles with the old sugar in the gas tank remedy. Rubbing alcohol, chain saws not to use on people but a few well placed trees could knock out a road or two. If I were the government I would not aggravate WE THE PEOPLE very much longer it is not smart on their part. re: major cities not to get near, I think Chicago and/or Detroit would be among the first to go. Chicagoans are fed up with the Cesspool of Corruption surrounding that city.
    I still like my non-violent approach, big rigs surround Washington, one flat tire so they cannot move. New improved plan, knock out electricity and water to the buildings, then just walk a way. Washington has no idea how to turn that stuff on or off.

  58. venice // October 25, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Which is why you’ll never find sprays here…I stopped using them for the reasons you just printed..only candles in my house and as few as I can use to get the effect disired.
    I’m sure the candles are pollutants too, but I have to use something every now and then.

  59. JJ,

    Good for you and your family. It’s no wonder those in your home rarely get sick. You have an instinct for healthy living.

    There are scent free candles if you want. Some are made of bees wax, and others are just regular without the added chemicals (not fragrance).

  60. Rocknee // October 25, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Now, now, Rocknee, that wouldn’t be us here redneck, hillbilly Kentuckians, would it?

    But, proud to say, ole McConnell is doing a great job of holding his own against the healthcare witches and warlocks, huh?

    “Operation Boo! Obama
    If Obama needs praise and flattery; then let’s give him disdain and insults.”
    Everyday in everyway we need to unpuff-Puff Daddy Obama. I bet Obama Joker Masks are going to be best sellers for Halloween.

  62. Michelle and JJ,

    Thanks. I try to simplify it as best as I can. Who’s your daddy is spot on.

  63. UpstateWarrior,

    Good post !

    Only in the context of (lawful self defense), i have to say, hopefully our opponents won’t have to face the little mythical beast, called the “Grendel” !

  64. Operation boo:

    Oh-boooooooo-mah. Oh-boooooo00-mah. Oh-boooooooo-mah.

    That should do the trick.

  65. Rocknee // October 25, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Hey Rocknee,

    Doesn’t matter-there are plenty of brands out there. Just make sure there aren’t any preservatives, artificial colors, or other junk in there.

    Kittycat and I both like the Nature Made brand-they come in either tablets or softgels. Don’t pay any attention to the dosage info-they’ll tell you on the label that one 1,000 I.U. tablet is 250% of the recommended daily value, but I’m up to 3,000 I.U. plus the 1200 I.U. from my calcium supplement.

    Kick the dose up a couple of notches now that we have two flu bugs going around this year.

    Don’t know if you have any Rite Aid pharmacies in your area, but I found the brand name Sambucol there yesterday at a very good price. Check your local CVS/Walgreen’s or whatever pharmacy chain in your area. It’s much cheaper than ordering it online-no shipping!

    I’ll be ordering some organic apple cider vinegar because even though my food store is certified organic, I can’t seem to find that product in an organic form. My Eastern European heritage on my Dad’s side makes me a root veggies freak, so the vinegar with beets is a given for me every day.

  66. Michelle // October 25, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Jeff M @ 12:48 you crack me up. Would you like the honor of helping him pack?, I would just throw Michelle’s wardrobe right out the window.

    Don’t be nasty, it would make nice bedding for the homeless.

  67. Michelle,

    You are right. Not only all of us here believe the Constitution sacred, I think most Americans do.

    When I discovered that main steam media was suppressing vital information during the campaign year that would have changed the outcome of the election, I was among the first blog talk radio programs focused on on the Sotoero lies. In my passion I was determined to tell the world (if I would be lucky enough to get the world to listen) what main steam media refused to discuss.

    There were very few blogs like mine then. The tea party groups had not begun, and the web site TeamSarah and just begun. Since then, I count a large increase in the ani-Sotoero blog talk radio programs, (They’re doing a fantastic job.)The Tea Party movement has grown humongus. The numbers of people willing to go to the town hallmeetings and stand with dignity with their signs are in the MILLIONS.

    There are litereally hundreds of web sites and movements working to expose and protest Obama. Fox news has become a champion of the cause (why WH is raging their ridicules war on Fox.), and people by the thousands are waking up every hour on the hour. Maybe America was asleep during the elections, but America has awakened. IT IS INSPIRING! This is what keeps me going.

    Like everything Sotoero and his Chicago goons do, it only backfires on him and them. They wind up looking like the power lusting/grabbing don’t-give-damn-about-America fools they are.

    If Sotoero has declared an H1N1 NATIONAL EMERGENCY in circumstances where there is NO NATIONAL EMERGENCY, then this, too will add to our war chest against him while it diminishes his credibility and integrity. He will become like the boy who cried wolf. Remember he rushed the stinkulus plan because that was a national crisis. This will work in the same way he rushed to attempt to get the Olympics to Chicago and awarded the Nobel prize. These along with his failure to respond to the Afghansistan REAL EMERGENCY are raising red flags in every one–even the most loyal Obots are starting to pay attention. His main concern now is getting the health care plan into law. This take-over-every-detail-of American-lives health bill may very well fail.

    There is a Tarot card design by Rider/Waite of a beautiful young man looking slightly up to the sky holding a pole over his shoulder with a bundle tied to it. He is on the edge of a cliff with a huge drop. There is an opposite cliff on the other side of the chasm. This young man has one foot on the cliff and the other in the air totally oblivious that his next step will cast him into oblivian forever. This card is called THE FOOL. This is how I see Sotoero/Obama.

  68. Michelle // October 25, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Michelle and Jeff,

    Talk about eating their own-quick story:

    A former coworker was bounced in 2007. She picked up a consulting job with a national research firm and was OK, until Barky was elected. It seems that the Bush administration contracted that group to do various kinds of research on a variety of topics. When Barky came on board, the contract was eliminated. She lost her job and is now scraping to pay a mortgage on unemployment compensation which, as we know, is finite.

    This woman, although a friend, is the moonbattiest of liberals (she actually worked for Ted Edward Kennedy and has a pic of herself noggin to noggin with John Lurch Kerry in her house) and hated Bush with a passion. I asked her how that hopey changey thing was working out for her now that her Golden Boy has been elected.


  69. JeffM -keeping things simple is the way to go. I am never comfortable with any product that has a phone book to go with it. I am immediately suspect of what’s wrong with it . All this legalese with products, what does anyone get out of that, so I just don’t buy the product.
    I think that is how Obama got away with as much as he has. Throw around tons of meaning less words, obfuscate as much as possible, talk fast, talk trash-it worked really well until Joe the Plumber slipped past them. One question and Obama had real problems. Their solution investigate Joe the Plumber over a simple question. Nuttiest thing I ever heard. The group in Washington, many villages are missing their idiots.

  70. General message to the New World Order folks out there:


  71. SueK-do you buy fresh beets? I’m Austro-Hungarian French and German plus lots more.
    Do you like spinach? If you do, keep the beet tops the green part and cook just like you would spinach. I love it, it tastes better than spinach.
    do the beet part same as normal.

  72. JeffM-JJ-now you’re both cracking me up. I like Jeff’s Oh-boooooooo-mah. Oh-boooooo00-mah. Oh-boooooooo-mah that’s funny. Bedding for the homeless good idea. When Lame Cherry goes after her and her dynamic taste in clothes he/she really doesn’t pull any punches.
    Michelle is a very big girl, I am not, I think she could do much better for herself. Alas and alack no taste.

  73. zachjonesishome

    UpstateWarrior // October 25, 2009 at 2:16 pm (edit)

    That was an excellent youtube!

    This card is called THE FOOL.
    Remember Hitler used to listen to his astrologers every day, Churchill found out about it so he had his own tell him what Hitlers astrologers were telling Hitler. Using every tool possible. Say Obama had a horoscope cast, worse he is relying on it, but how would an astrologer get an accurate reading not knowing correct details. Date, place time of birth?

  75. Guess who else is quaking in their boots over this?

    Bobby Jindal.

    Two for the price of one. Now that’s a bargain!

  76. Michelle // October 25, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    And who needs Mace when hornet/wasp spray has a stream that reaches 20+ feet??

  77. SueK-since I grew up in the Midwest my friends were all over the map,every race,creed, national origin due to O’Hare Airport , Dem’s Rep’s etc. No Communists, No Nazi’s, No Neo Nazi’s your parents would kill you. Henry Hyde was our representative Rep side, but our Dem was also very good. We used to see Mr. Hyde in the stores or in traffic you could not miss him. I think he was like 6’6″ and had snow white hair (premature), pretty sure he had a large family too. You know what you call a mixed marriage in Chicago or surrounding suburbs-its when a Republican marries a Democrat, nothing else counts. Lot of husbands/wives go to the polls just to cancel each other out. Sometimes the fights get a little dicey, but I don’t know of any divorces so something must get worked out.

  78. JJ and also ammonia in a spray bottle.


    “Obama faces the risk that his allies will chisel two dangerous cracks into the health plan’s foundation.”

  80. Michelle // October 25, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Nope, Michelle, gotta confess that I buy ’em canned; frozen if I can.

    My Dad’s mother went to too much trouble, IMO, but I have some of her recipes and cook when I have time (rare). I will do something for the holidays.

    I will get some fresh beets, though, and try your recipe-I love spinach (my parents were always pleased with that!).
    Great Chicago story…one of the very few coming outta there these days!

  81. Ah, yes, our responsible, government-run healthcare………..


  82. Richard, the Grendel looks like a great friend in the time of self defense.

  83. Sue K,

    Thanks for the co-worker story.

    I had a housekeeper for 3 years. One day she walks into my home and says that she hopes all wealthy people lose all their money. Asked her when a poor person ever gave her a JOB !

    Now, I have a hardworking GOPer housekeeper.

  84. Jacqlyn Smith


    oldsalt77 // October 25, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Sadly the time to rise up was months ago. I doubt that little can be done now to head off what I believe is coming. We can only hope that Orly is sucessful the rest of the way. As for Kerschner, it probably will not get past the apellate court,or any higher court for that matter. I personally believe that the National Emergency is a tool which will permit Soetoro to sidetrack ALL pending litigation against him, for as long as he chooses. Until the alleged National Emergency can be struck down he is holding all the trump cards. Now we have to proove that he is using the national emergency to keep him in office. Many of us have been expecting either a National Emergency, or Martial Law. The latter could be sprung if anybody tries to take him down physically.

    Old Salt…..IMO….I think that Apuzzo and Kerchner have the best chance at success…..they are both very determined and have promised to appeal this to every court until it is heard on its merits…..Kerchner is not one to back down……I believe they will find a way to force the courts to give a ruling….either on what is NBC or that the FRAUD in our house needs to produce his records or hopefully both!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

  85. OK. I think I figured out why Usurper in Chief declared a National Emergency:

    It’s to handle all the people who are going to get violently ill from taking this cocktail called the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine

  86. Richard // October 25, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    OORAH !
    Just a song for our fighting men and woman of our United States Armed Forces !

    This song is a little gory – but one must remember that this is a dirty business – – –

    “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready
    in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”
    – Winston Churchill

    NOTICE – in the video- “God and Country” ! ! !

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic
    for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

    Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
    He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
    He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
    His truth is marching on.

    I hope these people are ready to come HERE when we need them – and soon – – –

    I do solemnly swearthat I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States
    against all enemies, foreign and domestic; … and that I will well and faithfully discharge
    the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

    See also:


  87. Pat Smith, Sue K America always works best when our huge Middle Class is involved. I always saw it is 3 tiered Upper, Middle, Lower and saw much movement in all 3 categories over the years. So some people became very rich, yes by their efforts they did, what some people fail to realize many once upon a time were very poor themselves, not all but many. Hence the term rags to riches. Who needs a housekeeper with an attitude anyway? Not very smart to say something that mean spirited. I live near many of Madoff’s victims I was very upset for all of them. He wiped out their entire lifetime of earnings/savings. Hope that they get some, most all of it back.

  88. O/T… goes back to prior posts. I have been following Glenn Beck since before he moved to Fox. He has mentioned in the past that he has friends in very high places and often times, the guests he has on his show have told him (after the show) not to stop saying what he’s saying. They agree with him; but cannot admit it publicly.

    Glenn has been “dead-on” with so many stories that he has made a believer out of me. In fact, we pulled out just before the “crash” in September on his advice. Thank God!

    I agree with the other person here (can’t remember their name) who laid out his plan to capture a larger audience with a tidbit here and there..always giving facts, ultimately making believers out of his audience. Now, in my opinion, his style is sheer brilliance. Ya gotta love the “red phone” just daring the WH to prove him wrong, lol. He’s giving them every opportunity to legitimize themselves knowing all along they can’t.

    Then the stunt he pulled last week…revealing something(via a “live” phone call) only a handful of WH people would know was utter genius.

    I can just see these idiots scrambling, falling all over each other, trying to figure out who the mole is.

    Last I’ve seen, Glenn has 5 re-founders and maybe more that he hasn’t mentioned. Is the mole a re-founder or has there been someone in place all along???? I am sure it is driving people in high places crazy. I agree with the other posters who believe something is fixing to bust wide open. Glenn sure has been kind of giddy the last few days. Perhaps nothing is fixing to bust wide open…but wait, how does that dang Beck KNOW these things……hahahaha. Keep them guessing Mr. Beck..You have learned to play their game. Watch them self-implode….

    Pass the popcorn.

    God Bless him and protect him, his family and all of his listeners working to find the truth. And of course, all of us too!

    PS…the Oath-Keepers made the front page in today’s Las Vegas Review Journal

  89. Figures… Congressional Raises Topped Insurance Company Profits Last Year

    This year, during the worst recession since the Great Depression, the average member of Congress will realize a 2.8 percent raise.
    That means their profit margin is larger than the insurance companies they are demonizing.

  90. Pat Smith // October 25, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Good one, Pat-how true! 🙂

  91. Bob…..Don’t forget the SSN Verifier received by the Ohio P.I., that has the date ‘1890′ in it (not a birth-date), which just so happens to be the date of the Anglo-German Treaty that gave Britain the Kenya Colony and Protectorate (popularly known as the ‘Heligoland-Zanzibar Treaty’ of July 1, 1890), and the reflective dates of 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961, which appears to tell us that a document which employs a British birth-date format is on file with the U.S. Government’s Social Security Administration, and has been since 1979.

    This is certainly something simple that Congress could have asked for, and didn’t! (But they did in the case of John Sidney McCain, III). Now, the Federal Court should ask for it, in the case of Barack Hussein Obama, II!

    Why? Because if you father and your elder brothers descend to the rights of a British subject, then, — so do you, Mr. Obama!
    Right on!

  92. Val,
    I saw the BizCarib Real Estate Co. This is an interesting trail. I’m going to look for the articles you spoke of. VB may be an interesting connection in more than one way! Thanks,

  93. Nancy,
    Thanks for verifying Bates Rd. as Residential.
    Appreciate your info.

  94. Linda from NY

    Tea Party Express

    Thousands Turn Out for Kickoff of Tea Party Express II

  95. Jacqlyn Smith

    HonorFirst and everyone else….here it is….found at…


    READY TO DEFEND: Oath Keepers speak out at inaugural conference

    Group appeals to current, former police, military members to uphold Constitution


    video, slide show

    Members and guests recite a public oath during the Oath Keepers conference Saturday at Texas Station. Oath Keepers bills itself as a nonpartisan group of current and retired law enforcement and military personnel who vow to fulfill their oaths to uphold the Constitution.
    Photos by K.M. Cannon.

    Oath Keepers president Stewart Rhodes, right, and executive vice president Dave Freeman show a copy of the U.S. Constitution that will be a raffle prize at this weekend’s conference .

    Celia Hyde of Stow, Mass., sorts T-shirts at the Oath Keepers conference Saturday at Texas Station. Hyde is the Massachusetts state director for Oath Keepers .

    Members and guests listen to Oath Keepers president Stewart Rhodes on Saturday at the organization’s inaugural national conference at Texas Station.

    Bob Puhl of Las Vegas attends the Oath Keepers inaugural national conference. Oath Keepers was launched in March by Las Vegan Stewart Rhodes. The conference continues through today.

    No amount of controversy will keep Oath Keepers from educating people about what it means to support and defend the Constitution.

    That was the message Saturday during the kickoff of the group’s inaugural national conference, a two-day event that comes at a time when Oath Keepers is experiencing a surge in membership and notoriety.

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    Started earlier this year by Las Vegas resident Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers is a nonprofit organization made up primarily of current and former police and military personnel who renew their oaths to the Constitution.

    Rhodes, a former Army paratrooper and Yale University Law School graduate, opened the conference at Texas Station with a warning that Washington politicians cannot be trusted to uphold their oaths to the Constitution.

    “That’s why we have a civic duty to keep our oaths,” Rhodes told about a hundred fellow Oath Keepers in the hotel ballroom.

    Less pep rally than American history seminar, the first day of the conference focused in great part on the history and structure of the Constitution. Most of the day’s sessions were open to the public.

    Navy Cmdr. David Gillie, a board member of Oath Keepers and the group’s national Navy liaison, conducted a public oath ceremony Saturday afternoon.

    “This group stands for things that have needed to be said for a long time,” Gillie said in an interview with the Review-Journal. “It’s about fidelity to our oaths.”

    In a nearly two-hour speech, Rhodes implored members to fight labels that critics, most notably the Southern Poverty Law Center, have put on the group.

    Rhodes, 44, said Oath Keepers isn’t about the political left or political right, but rather about a commitment to honor the Bill of Rights.

    Oath Keepers has a “Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey.” The directives to disobey include unlawfully disarming Americans or forcing them into detention camps, conducting warrantless searches, or imposing martial law.

    By honoring the Constitution, Rhodes said, the United States will never become Nazi Germany or again allow abuses like the detention of Americans of Japanese descent during World War II.

    The group has close to 2,000 dues-paying members, twice the number it had last week, said Dave Freeman, a board member and the group’s national peace officer liaison.

    Oath Keepers has heard from thousands more who have expressed interest in becoming members, Freeman said.

    A Review-Journal profile of Oath Keepers last week helped thrust Rhodes into the national media spotlight.

    Appearing on the MSNBC show “Hardball,” Rhodes was questioned by host Chris Matthews about his “vigilante group” and on his “strange view of the world.”

    Matthews talked about a recent Southern Poverty Law Center report that identified Oath Keepers as a “particularly worrisome example of the Patriot revival,” a movement the law center said could carry out acts of anti-government and racist violence.

    Lou Dobbs of CNN had a different opinion of Oath Keepers. On his radio show, Dobbs praised Rhodes for efforts that should bring “solace and comfort” to everyone.

    Both Dobbs and Rhodes accused the Southern Poverty Law Center of perpetuating the same kind of intolerance it claims to condemn.

    Rhodes said during his Saturday speech that he is offended by any suggestion that “anti-illegal immigration, pro-gun, and pro-Constitution” groups are dangerous extremists.

    “I have grave fears about the encroachment of federal powers over states and individuals,” said Elias Alias, head of the group’s Montana chapter.

    At its core, Oath Keepers stands for the importance of military and law enforcement oaths, said P. Jeffrey Black, a member of Oath Keepers’ board of directors and its national federal law enforcement liaison.

    “My oath to the Constitution is to provide protection and welfare for the citizens of this country,” said Black, a federal air marshal who has filed numerous whistle-blower complaints against the Transportation Security Administration. “I think all law enforcement officers should be reminded of the true meaning of the oath they took, and their responsibilities to uphold that oath.”

    Contact reporter Alan Maimon at amaimon or 702-383-0404.

  96. just wondering

    I don’t know if you found out more about the Manalapan Fl address. I think the numbers on that road start in the hundreds which is why I believe it is a fake. There didn’t appear to be a BO headquarter there…though there are offices now giving away stimulus funds! Also, interesting 2008 campaign fundraiser for HRC at the home of a man since extradited to the UK for murder. He was involved in real estate scams i think.
    As to Vera Baker, if you go to
    there is info on her. I believe the References start a #3386 and go into the 339…’s
    I saw that yesterday, Michelle tried to verify addresses using two different searches. I think that Google earth/maps, just places a pin at the point a number should be, but that the land records show if there actually is such an address.
    Let me know if you want any help today?

  97. Food for thought..

    I would like to know (previously addressed) if Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and others in Congress have taken their H1N1 flu shots? Also, what about O’s Czars, and Axlerod, Rahm, Hillary, etc…

    We wouldn’t want these important people to get sick (op’s excuse me, they’re already sick), would we?

    Things to do Monday….hmmm lets see.
    Call Congress see if they got their flu shots! Better yet,
    why don’t all of us make a few calls?

  98. It seems that I suddenly have the flu. Seriously, it came on in the last few hours.

    I have sent my husband to the store for Braggs organic apple cider vinegar, Sambucol and D1 vitamins.

    What do I do when he gets back? What should I take first?

    Thanks to all, especially SueK for all this great info.

  99. Ladyhawke, it’s my understanding that you should take D3 and the gel caps are said to be better absorbed by your body too. I take 6,000 I.U. per day now and built up to that. It was either Dr. Blaylock or Mercola that says a high amount per day if you are ill with either respiratory or flu, but I sure wouldn’t start out on that. Now, are you in an area of the country where there’s a lot of sun and you get out in it a lot?

  100. Oh, you have to take more Sambucol too. Look at their directions, but it’s higher with the flu.

  101. Thanks, kittycat! I called him and told him to get D3 also.

    I live in a very sunny area. Unfortunetly since Obama was elected, we do not get out as often.

    Anyone know what to do with the vinegar? I know it was discussed and I tried searching CW for it, but it returns no hits.

  102. Ladyhawke,

    all you need is here Dr. Russell Blaylock’s site

    click on the tab at the top for swine flu data. scroll down past the graphs. He broke it up into active and inactive.

    Treatment for Toxic Vaccine Exposure
    Protection from the Swine Flu

    hang in there!

  103. Ladyhawke and all..

    another excellent site for flu info is Dr. Tenpenny.

  104. maddie // October 25, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    … if you father and your elder brothers descend to the rights of a British subject, then, — so do you, Mr. Obama!

    Hi maddie.

    This is the whole issue I’m interested in, for a very personal, and perhaps selfish reason, but there you go.

    So what you’re saying is that my son, born in a US military hospital overseas, child of a British Citizen (that’s me, and yes, we are citizens, not subjects 🙂 ), and a USA father, is ‘a natural born citizen’, and so could theoretically go on to become president one day?

    Now to me personally, that would very reassuring! My son is going great guns in his career, and politics is by no means out of the question if/when he leaves active service.

    But to my husband’s colleague, who follows these discussions alongside me from time to time, it doesn’t sound encouraging at all.

    She is an American citizen, married to a French citizen. Her daughter was also born in USA.

    So we are sometimes sat out here in the middle of Europe not far from the USAF base where she and my husband work from, wondering what IS the truth?

    My son could become president, but her daughter couldn’t? Did I get that right?

    There is NO way I’m going to tell her if you say ‘yes’, so let rip – don’t worry she’s not here at the moment 🙂

  105. Ladyhawke, with the organic vinegar, I used to put like a tablespoon in a glass of water and drink it, but maybe someone else can tell you this. Personally I would also take zinc. I occasionally take one per day of zinc, but not every day if I’m not ill.

  106. Dr. Blaylock may say to take like 20 mg. of zinc for 5 days or so, then take 5 mg per day. It’s not much. I think he has other things listed that I don’t take. I take my Vit. C (Nature Made only, is from U.S. not China and is my understanding). We’ll probably increase our Vit. C tonight since my husband is getting respiratory stuff.

  107. Ladyhawke // October 25, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Awww, Ladyhawke….so sorry it got you! Chin up, and natural cures down the hatch!

    What I did with the apple cider vinegar is boil 8 ozs. water and add 2 teaspoons of the vinegar. Mix in some honey to taste, and sip. If you don’t have honey (organic is preferred) plain old sugar will do.

    You’ll find it to be a surprisingly pallatable drink! If you’re really brave, 2 teaspoons raw, then a water chaser. The hot drink is more soothing.

    Tylenol, aspirin, or whatever you take as a fever reducer would be a good bet, just in case.

    What you describe is definitely a flu; a cold will creep up on you, but with the flu you can be fine at 9:00AM and feel as though a truck hit you by 3:00PM.

    Get some rest, and stay hydrated. Plain old water is the best, but you may want some Gatorade to replenish your electrolytes. Tea works, too.

    Please take it easy and check in and let the CWers know how you’re doing!

  108. Michele,

    I never knew Hilter was into astrology. Thanks for telling me. You make an excellent point about the lack of knowledge about Sotoero’s birth would handicap an astrologer, wouldn’t it.

    After reading about baby Abeneen L. Obama, I suspect he is into something far more sinister.

  109. Hi Ladyhawke, just clicked in and saw you were getting sick This is what worked for my son last week, he went to sleep fine and woke up sick. I gave him 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar mixed with water in a coffee cup. About 2 hours later I gave him 2 more tablespoons in water. He still says he feels fine! We take vitamins every day, remember the four Aces-Vit A,VitC,VitE, and Selenium then build off these VitD3, Zinc, you have to get the vitamins and herbs in your system. I’m sure there are many more good supplements these days and I do take more than these,build up your immune system. Take good care of yourself and hopefully this will pass in just a few hours. God bless

  110. Oh, goodness, yes, Hitler was into astrology and many other occult things. That man was possessed too, which is obvious when you watch him give speeches and people slobbering all over themselves and passing out. So sick! And he couldn’t give a speech without slobbering and drooling all over himself either!

    You know that “throne of Satan” mentioned in Rev. 2?

    Rev 2:12 And to the angel of the assembly in Pergamos, write: These things says the One having the sharp, two-edged sword:
    Rev 2:13 I know your works, and where you dwell, where the throne of Satan is….

    Well, it resides where today? In Berlin.

    I think Hitler had it moved there.

  111. The reason people don’t use more home remedys IMO is because there is no money to be made from them. All of the pharmacy meds that are advertised on TV and magazines are there because they want you to buy these perscriptions. I am not against Drs. or medicine but the side affects are scary.

  112. Everyone, Be extremely careful with your children and grandchildren this halloween, more careful than you have ever been. They will be recieving candy and treats from the hands of people that may not even know they are getting sick. We are going to be very cautious. Not fearful but cautious.

  113. One more thing just saw O on Fox in a clip. What l discerned in his look and the way he spoke was utter contempt for the US…..

  114. We don’t do Halloween, period. Haven’t celebrated those things in many, many years.


    Health care reform with “trigger”options, presumably to be decided at the discretion of the State. Sounds good, but once this bill is passed, changes can be made to develop a more robust public plan. The public plan signals the arrival of state controlled health care.

    This trigger option has been the plan all along, as was released by the media several months ago.

  116. kittycat, Not doing halloween is definately the best…

  117. Maria,

    I believe you are referring to Bob’s comment
    near the top of this thread. On my post I was quoting Bob.
    I have my thoughts, but, I’m not an attorney so I’d better pass. But, we do have others here that will probably give it a try.
    I can tell you in the following situation this person is not eligible: Mother British Subject,
    Father American, Child born in UK (dual citizen)

  118. Linda from NY

    OT…but interesting…

    It Was Clinton’s Fault

  119. Linda from NY

    Obama Likely to Skip Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen

  120. One more thing about Glenn Beck.

    I know for sure he is aware of the “birther” issues. I have been a subscriber to his daily emails for a long time. Sometime last summer, I think it was late July or early August 2008, he mentioned the BC issue being discussed at that Israeli news (I think its Israeli Insider or something like that). So I checked it out and it referenced TexasDarlin’s site.

    He has never mentioned it again in his emails, but it was Beck that got it started for me. You’ve got to know he has his people following the issue.

  121. Linda from NY

    From Dr. Taitz site:

    EXECUTIVE ORDER # 11921 NOW IN USE !!!!!
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:35 PM

    View contact details
    There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general’s signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft’s list.

    The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

    Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

    The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

    Now let’s review the justification for any actions taken…

    Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:…


    allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.


    allows the government to seize and control the communication media.


    allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.


    allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.


    allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.


    allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.


    allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.


    designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.


    allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.


    specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.


    grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.


    assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.


    allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA’s Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA’s role as a “new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis.” FEMA’s powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the…

    National Security

  122. SueK—
    There is no problem with the vinegar interacting with Rx drugs, is there? I’m about ready to try the “soothing” drink. I have the seasonal sinus thing going on, allergy (sneezing, coughing), no temp.
    Thanks for all your help with N1H1 and research:)

  123. LindaNY–
    How do you feel about what your posting says?
    Doesn’t give you a good feeling, does it?

    What do you think about contacting former Gov. Palin and asking her about the Fairbanks
    “camp”? I think she’d tell the truth.

  124. maddie // October 25, 2009 at 7:19 pm


    I believe you are referring to Bob’s comment
    near the top of this thread. On my post I was quoting Bob.
    I have my thoughts, but, I’m not an attorney so I’d better pass. But, we do have others here that will probably give it a try.
    I can tell you in the following situation this person is not eligible: Mother British Subject,
    Father American, Child born in UK (dual citizen)

    My apologies, Maddie (you have, I’m guessing, the same name as one of my sisters). I didn’t realise you were quoting Bob.

    I was replying to what I thought you said in your reply to Bob, about “if you father and your elder brothers descend to the rights of a British subject…”

    I shall just wait and see if Bob picks up on this, but please note that neither child I spoke of was born in UK.

    One was born in the USofA, one was born in a Military hospital while his father was on active service .

    Now I undertstand that some people have no respect for John McCain, but personally, I was disgusted that people questioned (and still do question) his eligibility.

    Hpwever, I also accept that the McCain and Obama situations are different.

    I (and my husband’s colleague) have a personal ‘stake’, even if it is only future hypothetical at present. We can’t be the only families wondering about it from this aspect?

  125. SueK, I just saw maddie’s question about seasonal sinus and allergy. Just recently someone told me to take honey for the sinus allergies. Does this work?

  126. LindaNY, Thanks for the post about the executive orders. I had wondered if the language that was used ‘alternative health care facilities’ that were spoken of yesterday was a guise for FEMA camps. I am beginning to think this may be germs intentionally released. I pray not……

  127. Maria,
    One question for you: At the time of your son’s birth were you an American Citizen or still a

  128. Carmen—
    I have thought that (germs released) ever since
    bo went to Mexico, and he didn’t get sick though the Mexican politician he met with actually died.

    I don’t trust or believe anything that comes out of DC.

  129. HonorFirst,
    This could be true…. I remember finding out about Israeli Insider and TD also. I used to go to TD religiously to find out what was going on.
    I used to blog on Gretawire during the primaries pretty regularly, but the site wasn’t very proactive. I left and never went back.

  130. Hi Maddie,

    ACV can interact with some prescription drugs, mostly with potassium levels. Since I’m virtually a drug store, I checked this site and it told me all I needed to know. I have it bookmarked.

    Here you go:

  131. Maddie, I’m glad you thought that, too. There is a lot of info being found out on O and he is getting desperate. We are much wiser for everything that is being uncovered. Thank you for getting so much work done on the SS nos. and thanks to all who helped you. I just read some stuff Satanism of Hitler from bing that said so much. I do believe the child Albean L Obama was sacrificed on Christmas day unimaginable evil.

  132. carmen // October 25, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Hi Carmen,

    This may sound weird, but honey can help allergies!

    I got this from a friend who’s a beekeeper. He told me that in honey, there’s some pollen. When you take the honey, it can actually be like an allergy shot, exposing you to the pollen that’s in the honey and over time, you build up an immunity to that allergen, just as you would with an allergy shot.

    Who knew?

    My friend said (and this is *very* important) that you should buy your honey locally, from a farm in your area, or even from a store that sells local honey. The reason is because in your local area, the pollen that’s bothering you will be in there, so you might be able to build up an immunity to grass, tree pollen, ragweed, or whatever bothers you.

    I take local organic honey for my allergies and asthma and while everyone else is sneezing, I’m not.

    Give it a try but remember to get the local stuff!

  133. Linda from NY

    maddie: Sick, absolutely sick.

    For what reason would anyone storm the borders? Could it be for an “open border” resolution of a North American alliance?

    We have heard much about these FEMA camps; we have seen pictures of the trains sitting in the railroad yards; we have read about the possible take-over of a prison in Montana by a military-style group; we have heard about forced inoculations, quarantines, and separating children from their parents.

    What are we supposed to think? Are we supposed to think these are for terrorists or illegal aliens or could they be used for anyone who speaks out against the government?

    If there are riots in the streets and mass hysteria due to some crisis [i.e., financial meltdown, terrorist attack], are they going to start arresting innocent people?

    I wonder what Sarah Palin would say, too. I wonder for what she was told these camps would be used. I wonder if she is not at liberty to say. Seems to me…anything we are not supposed to know comes under National Security.

    Thirty years ago, did we need these Executive Orders? If not, then why do we need them now? What has changed? Who is that guy who has taken up residence in our WH?

    By declaring a Medical Emergency that does not exist, pp has executed one of these orders. Why? Because he is tanking in the polls or because his pharmaceutical buddies have not been paid their just due for supporting his candidacy?

    No…I am not happy about this, and I do not think you are, either. However, we need to know about these developments so that we can stand strong together to combat what appears to me to be a clear and present danger.

  134. SueK, I will get local honey in the morning. You girl, are a very wise woman! Thanks God bless

  135. Linda,
    That’s exactly what CW told us when he suggested we all needed to be vigilant!
    Boy, isn’t that the truth!

    On Gov. Palin (I’m still going to call her that)
    I think you could e-mail her and ask about Fairbanks. Or maybe we all could e-mail someone in AK to find out what that camp’s all about. I don’t know if Sarah would consider it
    National Security (seems more like National Destruction to me). I’m been telling my husband about these FEMA camps for ages, he thinks nothing will happen to us (I think anything can happen with pp–this govt. is so
    out of control I can’t define it!)

  136. Linda from NY

    Heartwarming story…

    Overcoming the odds

  137. carmen // October 25, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    You’re welcome, Carmen.

    Not so much wise, but have a lot of medical issues, so I learn as I go along.

    I’d be the first to say that Nature has provided all the remedies we’ll ever need. Better than poisoning your system with harsh drugs that cause more side effects than they cure!

    God bless you, too, Carmen, and good luck with the honey (it’s delicious!)

  138. SueK—
    Thank you! You are walking pharmaceutical (sp?) encyclopedia!!!! I have my questions answered.

    I think I’m going to use it too on salad. That would be like oil and vinegar probably. Sounds good.

  139. Linda from NY

    Sue K: Pardon me for butting in, but it appears to me that you are a “naturalist.” I, too, am a “naturalist” who does not believe “drugs” heal anything. They merely mask the symptoms, and cause more harm than good.

    I once met a woman who was in a wheelchair, and who took an enormous amount of drugs every day just to stay alive. I asked her why she took so many drugs, and she told me she takes about half of them to counteract the side effects of the major ones she needs to take. My thought was: what a horrible way to live.

    I believe God provided everything we need in nature to heal our bodies and minds. I chose my physician carefully; he needed to be a naturalist and not a drug-pusher. When I was pregnant with my daughter, I was not even allowed to take Tylenol without his permission.

    So many toxins have been added to our food supply and water and for what? Do they make us any healthier?

    Natural remedies are the best remedies IMHO.

    Thanks for all you do to keep us all informed and healthy!

  140. maddie // October 25, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    No problem, Maddie…I’m a walking drug store :(.

    By all means, use it on salad with some extra virgin olive oil-now, *that’s* good for ya!

    Also try the local honey if the sinuses/allergies are kicking up.

    (We should exchange e-mails; don’t know if other CWers are diggin’ the recipes. Probably not).

  141. Linda from NY // October 25, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Evening, Linda,

    Never a ‘butt in!’

    I agree totally! Sometimes, though, we do need some pharmaceutical help for very serious stuff, but we should try to wean away from the heavy hitters and look towards Nature.

    Horrible story, but some of us have been there.

    I’ve always said look back to our grandparents…they ate bacon, lard, heavily salted fish, etc. Why did they live until their 90s eating all that? I believe that back in the day, there weren’t the preservatives we have in food today. This is why eating organic when you can is the way to go.

    My pleasure to contribute where I can. Now, gotta get Barky outta there!

  142. SueK,
    Thanks, Sue. Now back to “Barky”

  143. Michelle: This one’s for you!

    Democratic Party – Democratic Reform Party

  144. Federal Court requested to investigate AP Story

    October 25, 2009 by John Charlton

  145. UpstateWarrior posted a video @ 2:16 and the veteran said Obama declared a “national emergency” and if you didn’t know the difference between a national emergency and a “state of emergency” then you better find out. I’ve been trying to look them up but some combine them: a national state of emergency…
    Can anyone give a good comparison?

  146. maddie // October 25, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    One question for you: At the time of your son’s birth were you an American Citizen or still a

    Brit, maddie.

  147. I read on Obamafile that the reason that the first family couldn’t get a “shelter” dog was because Malia has asthma….well, asthma is a risk group and therefore, shouldn’t she be vaccinated?
    Just saying…..

  148. To see actual Hawaii documentation and birth certificate law (and how any foreigner could get a Hawaii birth certificate – and how the certificate they get is invalid with many Hawaii govt. agencies, and is invalid for U.S. Dept. of Defense for security clearance), and see that the birth certificate Obama has posted is not an actual birth certificate – and document why – go to Read carefully – even SunYat Sen got one although he was born in China. It’s easy.

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