I was first notified of attorney Leo Haffey’s arrest on September 19, 2009. Here is the email I received:
“Why is Leo the Lawyer in Jail in Nashville?
Leo the Lawyer (Leo Haffey) is an attorney from Nashville, TN who is a tireless patriot familiar to many of us on the Internet and various blogs.
The official charges are assault. His bond was revoked. No one has been injured and there are serious questions about the political motives of his accusers who are politically powerful liberal Democrats.
Attempts are being made to administer anti-psychotic drugs to Leo even though Leo says there has been no diagnosis established.
He was not allowed to call his wife or daughter in his defense, however the prosecution has called them as witnesses for the prosecution.
I don’t know enough about this case to speak authoritatively but I do smell a rat.
I established this blog as a showcase for some of Leo’s writings and to provide an information hub for his family, friends, and supporters.
If you would like to post articles, comments, or good wishes to Leo please contact Aristotle the Hun”
http://freeleohaffey.blogspot.com/
I spoke to Haffey’s wife a few days later and another time. She gave me an overview of what had transpired. At no time did she ever express that she was afraid of her husband. She emphasized that she and her family had been pressured and threatened by people in Nashville, neighbors and people in the legal profession who were Obama supporters. A fellow blogger with a background in marriage and family counseling and related court cases, Aristotle the Hun, has been in touch with Leo Haffey and his wife. This gentleman and I have been in regular contact including a lengthy conversation today.
So far, everything I have been told by Haffey’s wife and Aristotle the Hun has been proven true. A complaint was filed with the Nashville District Attorney’s office regarding pressure put on the Haffey family by local legal professionals. Today I called the Nashville DA’s office and spoke with Natalie Broadway, who was allegedly contacted via email to initiate an investigation. Ms. Broadway could not answer my questions and passed me on to her boss. I left a voice message and have not received a response.
This whole matter has smelled badly from the beginning and now smells even more. I am presenting below some documents and information on this case that will help clarify it.
Three affidavits below echo what I was initially told, that the incidents involved neighbors and that no one was hurt. It never made sense that Leo Haffey was held on no bond under these circumstances. It makes less sense now unless the judge who was apparently recused was indeed biased, politically motivated or very misinformed. I do know that Leo Haffey was evaluated soon after his arrrest and found to be no harm to himself. He also is being held in a minimum security facility.
As the old saying goes, there are two sides to every story, we will not make this a witch hunt. However, something is wrong with this picture. We need to help Leo Haffey get out on bail and be allowed to have adequate representation by himself or another impartial attorney.
As you read the following affidavits, be reminded that Leo Haffey and his two accusers are neighbors. They live in a condominium complex and apparently share parking access. Also the term prosecutor means the person filing the charges.
WARRANT NUMBER: GS436425 04/30/2009 19:27:51
Filed by Traci Horst, who is apparently the wife of attorney Brent Horst.
“On 4/30/9 at approximtely 1715 hours, Ms. Horst arrived home and went to the back of her vehicle to assist her child out of the back seat. Mr. Haffey, on a 2001 Black Honda CMX Motorcycle [5696ZV] pulled up behind Ms. Horst’s parking space, pointed his motorcycle in her direction and began “reving” the engine repeatedly. Mr. Haffey then eased his motorcyle in her direction as she was assisting her daughter out. Ms. Horst told him that he was scaring her but he continued. Mr. Haffey then slowly followed them to the exterior stairs with his motorcycle. Ms. Horst stated that a similar incident occurred on 12/10/8 [08-847049] in which Mr. Haffey swerved his vehicle at her vehicle in the parking lot of their condominiums.”
WARRANT NUMBER: GS438504 05/12/2009 14:53:58
Filed by Batya D Wininger
It is believed that this is the corresponding short bio for Ms. Wininger from her UPositiveBlog:
“About me
Nashville, TN, United States
UPositive is my business: I am a life coach specializing in, but not limited to, the creative process. I am also a licensed psychotherapist, and am certified in past-life regression therapy. Nonfiction writing is as much a passion as is writing songs, short stories, and murder mysteries. Read more about my work at UPositive.com. Yes, I keep busy!”
“On Wednesday April 29, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. the prosecutor was driving on Higland Park Dr. when the defendant who was driving in the opposite direction did knowingly and recklessly swerve towards the prosecutor’s vehicle. The defendant was looking directly at the prosecutor just prior to swerving and then honked his horn immediatly after. The actions of the defendant put the prosecutor in fear of imminent bodily injury. The prosecutor has had numerous confrontations with the defendant who is her neighbor. The prosecutor believes that the defendant is intentionally intimidating her because of prior conflicts between them. This event took place on Highland Park Dr. in Nashville (Davidson County) Tennessee.”
WARRANT NUMBER: GS438505 05/12/2009 14:55:32
Filed by Batya D Wininger
“On Monday 05/11/2009 at 12:20 pm The defendant was sitting on his porch with his dog when the prosecutor (who lives in the condo next to the defendant) attempted to leave her parked car and enter her residence.The defendant, along with his dog abruptly stood up and walked toward the prosecutor in an “aggressive” manner. The dog was reared up on it’s bag legs straining against it’s leash and barking. The defendant let the dog get to within approximately 1 foot of the prosecutor before pulling it away from her. The prosecutor has had numerous confrontations with the defendant in the past and felt like the defendant was going to have his dog bite her. The prosecutor believes that the defendant is intentionally intimidating her because of prior conflicts between them. The defendants actions put the prosecutor in fear of imminent bodily injury. This event took place at 6954 Highland Park Nashville (Davidson County) Tennessee.”
There is some interesting reading at Batya D Wininger’s blog:
http://upositiveblog.blogspot.com
One thing should be obvious, this should fall into the category of he said she said. However, the more one examines the details, it becomes increasingly apparent that something is wrong with this picture.
The link for the cases and affidavits can be accessed here with this input:
Leo Haffey Birth date 01/07/1951
http://ccc.nashville.gov/portal/page/portal/ccc/caseSearch/caseSearchPublic/caseSearchPublicForms/
Leo Haffey being incarcerated wihout bond for the controversial, minimal infractions, has troubled me. There has been some controversy as to the reason. A recent inquiry made to the Nashville jail indicated that the bonding company withdrew. However, from the evidence I have, it appears that the original judge, Gloria A. Dumas, ordered no bond. It was pointed out to me that Judge Dumas may have a feminist agenda. I have no corroboration of that as yet. However, Leo Wrote a motion on a scrap piece of paper from his jail cell. In the motion he asked for judge Dumas to be recused. That apparently has happened. Here is a copy of the handwritten motion.
Leo Haffey not only spoke out about Obama, he wrote of corruption in Nashville, Tennessee.
It is apparent that Leo Haffey should be released on bond. If not, a Writ of Habeas Corpus should be filed.
The withholding of bond, coupled with the suspicious affidavits, coupled with the charges against legal professionals who support Obama, coupled with Leo Haffey speaking out against Obama, makes this a case we must get an answer to. It certainly appears that an American patriot has become a political prisoner.
We must demand answers and justice.
I am not through with this case.
I am not through examining the two affidavit filers.
I am not through examining Nashville corruption.
Oh, and by the way, I am not through with Judge Gloria Dumas.
It seems Judge Gloria Dumas has a little attitude problem.
From News Channel 5, Nov 11, 2008:
“Judge Admits ‘Issues With Being Late'”
“For more than three months, our NewsChannel 5 Investigates team watched the Metro courthouse, and one judge left people waiting more than any other judge.
That judge, Gloria Dumas, has been a General Sessions judge for 10 years. Her responsibiities that include issues affecting Nashville’s neighborhoods.”
“Still, when NewsChannel 5 Investigates set up surveillance, we discovered how she really sets her schedule. Often the last to arrive, she’s sometimes the first to leave.
“I’m not going to tell you I don’t have issues with being late,” Dumas admitted to Williams. “I’m not going to tell you I haven’t all my life had issues with being late. It is something that I have problems with, always have had problems with.”
In fact, while she leaves everyday working folks waiting, we discovered Dumas often doesn’t leave her elegant Oak Hill home until well after she’s supposed to be in court.
Usually, she arrives at the courthouse at least 30 minutes late, taking another 30 minutes or more to get on the bench.
“Am I saying that’s my big old flaw? Yeah,” she added. “If you’re looking for perfect, you need to throw me out because I am not perfect.”
On Sept. 10th, Dumas left her neighborhood at 9 a.m. — 30 minutes after court was supposed to begin.
By the time she was outside the courthouse, she was almost 45 minutes late. Then she stopped to talk on the phone.
She talked and talked — until finally, at 9:51, she pulled into the garage — almost an hour and a half late.
“If you have trouble having the discipline to be on time, do you have the discipline to be a judge?” Williams asked.
“I think I’m a very good judge,” Dumas replied.
“Even if you are chronically late?””
Read more:
http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=9332811#
It appears that Judge Gloria Dumas has a total disregard for the law
From News Channel 5, March 30, 2009:
“Judges Hire Family in Violation of Ethics Rule”
“A lot of people are looking for jobs these days.
But a NewsChannel 5 investigation discovered that you never had a shot at some jobs in the Metro courthouse.
That’s because some judges hired their relatives — despite judicial rules that actually prohibit nepotism.”
“In Judge Dumas’ case, she hired her daughter, Kim Levitan, in late 2005. Levitan was a college graduate with a degree in fine arts.
“And what made you think that she could do the job?” Williams asked her.
“‘Cause she’s very smart,” Dumas replied.
“Did she have any experience?”
“Did she have any experience in being in the courtroom? No.”
For 10 months, Levitan worked in her mom’s court. The salary at the time: $44,000 a year.
Still, Dumas admits she knew that there were rules against nepotism.
“Because I was bringing her in on a temporary basis, I just did not think it was an issue,” she said.
Williams asked, “If a defendant told you, ‘Judge, I violated the law, but I only did it on a temporary basis,’ would you accept that?”
“I don’t know how to answer a question like that,” Dumas said.
But Cunningham didn’t hesitate.
“Well, I know how to answer it — and I think anybody would know how to answer it. You don’t allow favoritism on a temporary basis or on a permanent basis or on any kind of basis.”
The rules that prohibit nepotism also say that judges have an obligation to report other judges who may be engaged in misconduct.
Yet, instead of speaking up, these judges say their colleagues kept their mouths shut.
Read more:
Citizen WElls 
Yikes, we willl keep Leo and his family in out thoughts and prayers
Appalling! No bond? This makes no sense.
From reading this, it looks like the Judge definitely has an attitude problem.
Perhaps we at Citizen Wells can spread this far and wide, and get this Judge some ‘exposure’.
Maybe a little sunlight might help disinfect her.
Nothing like an asshole lawmaker. How do these people get elected?
This story seems very skeptical to me; why no bond?
Is he so dangerous, they can’t risk letting him back into society, or is he so dangerous, they can’t risk him being free, and bringing someone down?
Things that make you go hummmmmmm.
Free Leo the Lawyer!
Taitz files a Motion for Relief, in Barnett vs Obama
My prayers for Leo and his family!
May St. Michael deliver him.
Seems like an excessive reaction for what are allegedly minor issues.
If Leo has exposed/criticized some influential people, this is all payback.
I smell a skunk.
http://backyardconservative.blogspot.com/2009/10/bill-ayers-no-dream.html
Bill Ayers tells blogger he wrote Dreams, asks her to prove it and then split the royalties.
This is an interesting encounter.
Too bad the blogger did not ask about the birth certificate written about in the book.
CW,
thanks for more details. I see why you and others are so appalled at what is happening with Leo. I am as well.
Past life regressions…this used to be something that was done in the “undergound” in California with psychedelic drugs and new age music.
I hope you can get to the bottom of this. Can’t imagine the pain he and his family are going through.
The South.
Right on the money.
My first question is: Has Leo secured a lawyer yet? Second question: Were there any “real” witnesses to either of the instances? Third question: Was Leo charged with assault on his family in addition to the first two charges? If the answer to the third question is yes, then that may be a reason why no bond could be secured.
IMHO, he needs a lawyer from another state who can practice law in TN. I say this because there appears to be some “collusion” among the parties bringing the complaints, the prosecution, and possibly involving politically motivated or appointed judges.
If and when Leo does secure a lawyer, can he file a counter-suit for unlawful imprisonment, defamation of character, and/or harassment? Or, does he have to wait until this issue is resolved before he can file a counter-suit?
I agree with you…the stench is repulsive.
Judge Carter Does Not Have Subject Matter Jurisdiction For Quo Warranto In Barnett v. Obama.
Posted on October 8th, 2009 by David-Crockett
Leo Donofrio published
Judge Carter must dismiss the quo warranto aspect of the case (essentially the entire case) because his court has no subject matter jurisdiction to hear a quo warranto complaint pertaining to a US national officer located in the District of Columbia.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3718#more-3718
Commenter Dave Davis, on the above site, shows that Leo D. may be missing the forest for trees:
“IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR LEO DONOFRIO:
I understand your Quo Warranto argument, that is, by what right is Obama “serving in office of President”. I understand that this is an “after the fact” issue i.e. he has already assumed the office.
Now, suppose the main argument is this…by what right was Obama able to “run for office” an earlier event that took place before he assumed office. This occured before the election and still would affect Alan Keyes.
Here is what I am getting at…Suppose it was found that Obama had no right to run for the office due to being unqualified. No one is arguing that he should be removed from office using this line of attack, just that he never had a right to run in the first place….a civil matter worthy of a civil award to Keyes.
The bottom line is that the Judge does not have to rule that Obama is holding the office illegally, just that he ran illegally. However, the entire nation then knows that we have an unqualified usurper in office. The Congress would be forced to act and impeach him or the country would go wild. The left would have no argument that they could make that would hold any water. What could they say to the American people? Oh…we found out that we have an illegal usurper in office but since he is there, we think we shouldn’t have to do anything about it? That would go over like a fart in Church.
Even half of the Obamatards would be forced to conclude that he should be impeached and would likely demand it.
I just wondered if this line of attack would bring about a trial on the merits if the Quo Warranto issue is held in Obama’s favor? Perhaps I am just dreaming up an angle here that has no merit but it seemed like it might make some sense. Sure, it’s a slight twist on things but getting to the truth is what is required. If the truth gets out that Obama is unqualified, something will have to be done even if this judge can’t do anything about it. Tell the world that Obama was unqualified to run and give Alan Keyes a $1.00 monetary award for damages and let the chips fall where they may in the court of public opinion.”
You Decide
Punish Ethics Violators?
Should lawmakers who are being investigated by the Ethics Committee, be required to relinquish their committee posts until the investigation is complete?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/07/decide-ethics-committee-rangel/?test=latestnews
You Decide
Will You Get the H1N1 Vaccine?
Do you intend to get the H1N1 vaccine?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/07/decide-hn-vaccine/?test=latestnews
Ted: Commenter Dave Davis, on the above site, shows that Leo D. may be missing the forest for trees:
“IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR LEO DONOFRIO:
Then go post this at Leo Donofrio’s site and see what he says about it. I’m curious, that is, if he lets it go through.
Ted
Many have said all along that he may not even be a US citizen,, unqualified to run..
Rocknee:–
“US citzen” — whether he IS or IS NOT — is not the point. The point is “natural born citizen” under Art 2 of the Const.
kittycat:–
I repeated it via comment over at Leo Donofrio’s site. I don’t know if he’ll post it.
GO ORLY!
Double NUTS…………………..
Well, I know Leo D. is kind of strict on this and maybe he’ll be a little moved on it yet, but I do agree with him about following the law. You don’t want to break the constitution while trying to uphold it. I’m waiting more on what he studies, though. He will study something and find out other things.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3716#comments
Judge Carter has released a statement that hearing and trial “will move forward”.
I’m a little confused–is this a neighbor dispute
over politics? Who has the dog, the motorcycle
and the swerving car? Please explain a bit more.
Thanks.
Sorry did not see Leo Donofrio’s statements.
cq,
Mr. Donofrio is wrong yet again. All Federal District Courts and Court of Appeals have jurisdiction of civil suits based on Constitutional Law. That means any case that surrounds the Constitution and its statutes is fair game.
It says so in the Constitution itself:
Nowhere in Article III does it say Congress has sole jurisdiction to decide matters of Article I eligibility.
Ted,
Sounds interesting. Would be good to run it
by Leo D. and see what his comments are.
Citizens Wells–what do you think of Ted’s
idea?
Here is the Jericho “nuts” scene.
stated above that Leo D. says….
Judge Carter must dismiss the quo warranto aspect of the case (essentially the entire case) because his court has no subject matter jurisdiction to hear a quo warranto complaint pertaining to a US national officer located in the District of Columbia
+++++++++++
I say it’s not Leo D’s decision to make.
Bringing over from other thread:
Who did Beck have on his TV show tonight?
I missed it. What was said? Thanks!!!
The more I read about all the attorneys and their statements regarding the Constitution, the more I realize it is just like the Holy Bible…unread, misquoted, and misunderstood.
jc–thanks for the nuts scene; I never knew that about the show.
So JeffM,
Where do you think Orly’s case stands now?
maddie,
Our close family friend, Nick Lough, reporter for Kulr8 was on tonight’s show. He was on for the segment about the APF Hardin MT story we have been discussing for the past week. He couldn’t go live due to a snowstorm in the area so Glenn talked to him over the phone but they did show his beautiful file photo.
http://www.youtube.com/my_favorites#
….I realize it is just like the Holy Bible…unread, misquoted, and misunderstood.
Yep, I can understand this myself. Look how many people don’t know and understand about the eternal inheritance and who is the testator.
stated above that Leo D. says….
Judge Carter must dismiss the quo warranto aspect of the case (essentially the entire case) because his court has no subject matter jurisdiction to hear a quo warranto complaint pertaining to a US national officer located in the District of Columbia
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But the suit claims that he is not a “US national officer”. Leo the poker player seems to be taking the slant of the DOJ lawyers, who claim the court can not remove a “US national officer”.
the DOJ lawyers are pretending to be representing the people of the US. Against? Terrorists?
Darn wrong link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpzfY1j149U
This should be correct.
BTW,
the DOJ response of “Nuts” is extremely disturbing, including the german language heading aimed at Taitz. It seems they are identifying her as an enemy of the USA.
JeffM: Wasn’t Leo making an argument only about Quo Warranto? …that the sole jurisdiction for a case of Quo Warranto is the D of C Federal Court? Dr. Taitz refuted Judge Carter’s question of Quo Warranto by citing the 9th Circuit. Does that make a difference? If so, do you know why?
Linda,
Assuming that Taitz is correct that O is not qualified, he is not a “US national officer” but a criminal holding the government hostage.
Leo the poker player’s argument makes no sense. If he is a “US national officer” this is a frivolous lawsuit and should be thrown out. If he isn’t…
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6559c650-b36e-11de-ae8d-00144feab49a.html
The emergence of a coalition of Republicans, Independents and Libertarians against Obama.
Ace // October 7, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Hi Ace,
And let’s not forget that His Niblets was not POTUS when this suit was originally filed, if I remember correctly. He was not a U.S. national officer at that time.
This is why I asked the question of him being represented by DOJ attorneys that We The People are paying for!
Linda,
I think there is also leeway for when plaintiffs and activity involved occur in one place – and also with the great distance between that place and D.C. there is permission for the hearing to take place there rather than D.C.
Ace: Got it! Thanks. Dr. Taitz is treating the pp as a “usurper,” and Leo is treating him as an actual “officer” entitled to the full protection of the law. Big difference!
JeffM:
Mr. Donofrio is wrong yet again. All Federal District Courts and Court of Appeals have jurisdiction of civil suits based on Constitutional Law. That means any case that surrounds the Constitution and its statutes is fair game.”
Look, Jeff, you would be doing us a favor to go and tell this to Leo, please. That way we can get what he’s thinking. Understand that sometimes he thinks about something for a while and then sees that it’s okay and go for it. Please, please go and ask him.
Thanks
It worries me Sue, because I saw a thinly veiled threat directed at Dr. Taitz today.
The General was surrounded by Germans, and he said “nuts”. then what happened? Patton came up from the south, and they annihilated the germans.
This DOJ lawyer shoots back with “I guess you don’t know your military history”. And she didn’t—she didn’t get it. He was threatening her.
The use of DOJ lawyers is highly symbolic—and more. They claim they are not defending Obama, but the Presidency. Against whom?
Sue K—great point which I recall you already
previously mentioned on the blog—
WHY are We the People paying for DOJ attorneys to “defend” him when he wasn’t a
US national officer, was ineligible to run in the first place, and is currently an “usurper”?
jbjd,
You said, “Please, notice, this ‘order’ is not even signed by J. Carter.”
However, please look at another Civil Minutes General in this link. This one only has the initials of the preparer too.
Click to access 071129_Order.pdf
SueK: “His Niblets”…
That is too funny, must add to my list after I finish giggling…
Ace: Got it! Thanks. Dr. Taitz is treating the pp as a “usurper,” and Leo is treating him as an actual “officer” entitled to the full protection of the law. Big difference!
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And I don’t understand why he would be wasting his time doing that. It’s frivolous. The DOJ lawyers are refusing to defend Obama the man. They said so. Go read it. Taitz has not brought suit against the President. She objected to the DOJ claim that they are representing the President.
So what is this Leo the poker player talking about? If Taitz (or anyone) goes in there and says she filing suit against the President—she has no case !
Ace:
The use of DOJ lawyers is highly symbolic—and more. They claim they are not defending Obama, but the Presidency. Against whom
+++++++
I agree. This was deliberate, and a threat to Orly
whether or not she understood it at the time.
It is chilling to say the least. And these are
the people that the Fraud surrounds himself
with. Thugs all of them.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/29/ayers-obama-philanthropy-corruption-what-big-media-refuses-to-disclose-about-obamas-checkered-past-in-chicago-machine-politics/
Sue K—great point which I recall you already
previously mentioned on the blog—
WHY are We the People paying for DOJ attorneys to “defend” him when he wasn’t a
US national officer, was ineligible to run in the first place, and is currently an “usurper”?
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Because,
The DOJ lawyers position is that the President of the United States is under attack.
Ace: I am sure, by now, someone has explained to Dr. Taitz that the DOJ lawyers insulted her. This is highly inappropriate behavior from anyone in the DOJ. They should receive, at minimum, a reprimand. Defending the Presidency? Against whom? Anyone that would deny them the right to “control” the courts, the judges, and/or the people IMHO. What can you expect from a bunch of “thugs” hired by the pp to undermine We the People?
Ace: just read the explanation of the differentiation of : usurper vs an “officer”
—big difference is right.
Ace: I am sure, by now, someone has explained to Dr. Taitz that the DOJ lawyers insulted her. This is highly inappropriate behavior from anyone in the DOJ
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I hope so. And she should consider being a lot more careful about what she says in public.
And she should consider shutting down her blog.
The DOJ lawyers can’t defend
based on the President of the United States being attacked.
There IS NO LEGAL POTUS to defend!!!
Time for a some comic relief…….
Hitler Finds Out Chicago Didn’t Get The Olympics
Kittycat–
I agree about someone legally discussing
issues with Leo D. Would Citizen Wells
also do this?
How Orly’s Mr. Lincoln’s signs off.
Deo vindice
(With) God (as our) defender/protector.
Deo Vindice
“May the Lord God be with you,
and with thy spirit!”
World War II
McAuliffe was serving as Commander of Division Artillery of the 101st Airborne Division when he parachuted into Normandy on D-Day and when he entered into Holland during Operation Market Garden in a military glider. In December 1944, when the German army launched their surprise offensive, General Maxwell D. Taylor, commander of the 101st Airborne Division, was away, attending a staff conference in the United States.
[edit] Battle of the Bulge
McAuliffe square BastogneIn Taylor’s absence, acting command of the 101st and its attached troops fell to McAuliffe. At Bastogne, the 101st was besieged by a far-larger force of Germans under the command of General Heinrich Freiherr von Lüttwitz, who soon demanded that the Americans surrender. McAuliffe sent back his now-famous reply: “NUTS!” The 101st was able to hold off the German assault until the 4th Armored Division arrived to provide reinforcement but the town was regained the next day due to the reinforcements. For his actions at Bastogne, McAuliffe was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross by General Patton on December 30, 1944, followed later by the Distinguished Service Medal.
“Nuts” a phrase not to be taken lightly. I know my mother’s cousins first husband was killed in this battle-parachute tangled in the trees and the enemy (Germans) picked him off. They had a small son. God rest the souls of all of our servicemen who were killed that day and in that battle. Our Constitution needs to be respected and followed for all the brave men and women who have lost life and limb in the service of our country since the Revolutionary War until present. Obama this is not about you, it is about Obama as a usurper and anyone and everyone who would commit treason against WE THE PEOPLE. If we do not respect our dead, how could we respect our living. In God we Trust, God Bless America.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/10/06/fucking-stan-mcchrystal/
This account of McChrystal doesn’t surprise me.
A great contrast: an authentic military man against the ?. Of course Obama will follow his lead, he doesn’t have a clue about military action. He’s just very good at looking serious and pretending to plan strategy, all the while having everybody else make the decisions.
The DOJ lawyers can’t defend
based on the President of the United States being attacked.
There IS NO LEGAL POTUS to defend!!!
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All I’m saying is that we got a glimpse at O’s defense.
We already know he is not going to supply proof of qualification. Maybe he doesn’t have any—I don’t know. I don’t know where he came from.
It’s going to be “he’s the President, and he’s being threatened. This is what Nixon did with his “Saturday Night Massacre”. He fought with every weapon he had, until the members of Congress went to him and told him it was no go.
People have to realize, we’re not dealing with some schmoe down the street. Either this guy really is the President or he isn’t. If he isn’t, he’s not going quietly. Like it or not, it does come down to other people in the government to ultimately solve this problem, if there is one.
jc—thanks for the Beck update. Yes, I remember
the blog’s discussion about Hardin, MT. Thanks.
venice,
I give Orly’s case a 50/50 chance of success. That’s what every case has.
Yeah, we know we didn’t want to hear that but those are the odds.
I have another theory on Carter’s motives. I believe he’s stretching this along as far as he can to see just how desperate and forceful the defendants get. Once he does the defense will get offensive and his hunch will be confirmed that the plaintiffs are “on to something”.
That may change tomorrow or next week should he decide to play “Pass the Acorn”.
Howdy, Maddie:
I think that we need another legal mind, a lawyer, to discuss this with Leo D. That’s my impression, therefore, we all know what’s happening. But I do also know that when Leo has more time to study up on a subject, that he will see more about that subject.
The law is so complicated nowadays. There is so much for them to remember and study all the time. I personally gripe about them, yet I don’t see how they do it. So in that part I stand in awe of it all. Also, there are a lot of egos going on in the law stuff. I just think for once, in this case, that they should try to lay their egos off to the side and concentrate on this and become unified. I don’t think that they can, yet maybe it’s good they are all working on different angles. I don’t know. I don’t have any answers on this. All I know is that we need justice for Americans who love the truth, and maybe that is what is happening now, we’re seeking justice.
Ace // October 7, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Yeah, Ace, I got the significance of that threat. Orly didn’t.
“Defending the Presidency’ is one thing; defending a usurper takes it to a whole different level.
This is starting to get dicey…
Thanks JeffM,
Much appreciate it. Unlike many other areas of expertise, the law is open to so many levels of interpretation and subject to the knowledge and skill of the practioner, that being able to comprehend the english language is not enough.
BTW, I’m pleased you’ve given it such high odds as you could probably tell from my “restraint”.
Leadership…
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/10/abysmal-depths-each-day.html
Kittycat: Your posting beautifully explained what is going on with the lawyer world in this case which, as you said, is so important in the
search for the truth. Thank you.
maddie // October 7, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Ya, Maddie….why?
Our tax money is going towards paying for his defense? I don’t think so. If that’s the case, I’ll file a tax return come 4/15, but they won’t get a red cent from me for his defense.
Let him spend his own ill-gotten greenbacks to defend his own sorry a$$; I want no part of it.
Makes me sick.
Now here’s a lawsuit that could uncover all the documents we need…
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/10/william-bill-ayers-etal-vs-barack.html
“practitioner”
If Orly shut down her blog, how would we
get her info, etc? On the other hand, maybe
that would keep Obots from getting info on
her thoughts, etc. I don’t know what to think
on that suggestion about her blog.
Kim // October 7, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Glad it gave you a laugh, Kim.
My late Dad used that term all the time, or shortened it to ‘His Nibs.’ He told me it was a British term used to signify someone who thinks he’s ‘His Majesty’ but in reality, is just a schill.
It fits in this situation, doesn’t it???
kittycat -I think sometimes it is ego, but on the other hand you need ego/guts to do what all of these lawyers have accomplished. I also think it is good for each one having a different point of attack, thoughts, venues etc. don’t we all? They are all up against the same thing A GIANT PERNECIOUS EVIL. We know some of the players-Obama DNC, Dean, Pelosi, Reid, but at this time we don’t know all of the players.
God Bless them all-they have worked tirelessly doing the best they all know how to do and have taken some hits, but they soldiered on.
The hard work that has been started getting rid of the corruption and incompetence in DC is next.
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/cousin%20odingo.htm
Ace said:
“But the suit claims that he is not a “US national officer”. Leo the poker player seems to be taking the slant of the DOJ lawyers, who claim the court can not remove a “US national officer”.”
To hell he’s not. Carter gets paid by and is part of the Judicial Branch of the Federal Government. He is covered under Article III of the U.S. Constitution, which clearly states his court has full authority to make judgements on all cases of Constitutional Law.
Additionally, U.S Code mandates Carter has complete Constitutional authority to make judgements on all cases regarding Constitutional Law within District 9, which includes the state of California.
As far as territorial jurisdiction, the Constitution doesn’t care, and neither should Carter. It was filed in District 9 because it has to do with the election of federal electors for the President of the United States within the state of California.
If anything, D.C. has NO jurisdiction over this case until it is properly appealed. Don’t believe me? Just ask Berg, who went through this when his “bounce over the District circuit” case hit SCROTUS back in January. If the lower courts didn’t have jurisdiction, SCROTUS would have never pushed it back down to where it should have originated from, District 3.
Everyone should know gold has hit 1050. Obama is already under attack.
Sue K—
I am not going to “pay” for his defense either.
Let him sell his property in Chicago and whatever else he “owns” under one of those numerous social security numbers and aliases.
I personally feel that Donofrio has no right to weigh in on this case. He should keep his mouth shut, and stop supplying information to the enemy (DOJ).
If they’re not competent enough to figure it out, then why the hell would we help them defend usurper boy?
Leo has an ego problem: He’s an egomaniac. He loves to hear himself talk; every time he’s on a radio show, he insist the host take callers, so he (Leo) can answer questions, and hear himself talk, or as I interpret it ….. show off.
I can’t help but sense a little “legal-jealousy” here, in his tone. He’s in attack mode, and Orly/Judge Carter are his prey.
He’s emotionally invested in this, and I think it’s getting the best of his judgement.
It is us who is to blame for his cockiness. Every time Leo talks, writes, blogs, we tend to take take it as gospel.
He is not the almighty, last leg of the law of the land.
He is just another attorney, trying to get his moment of fame.
Leo Donofrio is not God, maybe we should stop treating him as such.
The South,
Well said. Leo may be right some of the time, but is usually wrong the rest of the time.
Loose lips sink ships. Factcheck knows about him and he is therefore under scrutiny by the enemy of the U.S.
http://www.reuters.com/article/usDollarRpt/idUSN0743001420091007
Anyone thinking of buying Canadian currency should look at this.
Another thing: I’m tired of hearing Donofrio scream at the top of his lungs ‘we must follow the law to a T”, and not fight dirty.
Bullshit! Obama and his minions are fighting dirty, and they have succeeded in over 100 Federal Lawsuits since last year.
Sometimes, you’ve got to put your ethics and morals aside, and FIGHT TO WIN!
Especially when you know beyond a doubt that you are right.
Playing fair doesn’t win wars. Criminal never play by the rules, that’s why good people die.
When good people stop playing by the rules just like the criminals, the good guys always win.
It may not be right, fair, or just, but when there’s this much at stake, its GLOVES OFF!
venice,
Buying Canadian $??? LOL!
Obama/Soetoro’s Treason, Deceit and High Crime Against America
found at…..
http://nationalwriterssyndicate.com/content/view/1469/2/
Someone posts a comment …………..
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Someone posts a reply …..
Separation ***********makes it a lot easier to follow the thread…
Thanks
The South // October 7, 2009 at 11:11 pm
I personally feel that Donofrio has no right to weigh in on this case. He should keep his mouth shut, and stop supplying information to the enemy (DOJ).
If they’re not competent enough to figure it out, then why the hell would we help them defend usurper boy?
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I agree. I don’t understand why Donofrio would give Obama’s lawyers any legal advice.
Kim 1023–I asked that question of jbjd right after she said that the order wasn’t signed, ie–are all the orders like this signed? She didn’t answer my question…although she was, in fact, on the blog at the time and she was answering other questions and giving her own opinion of things. Thanks for clarifying this for us. I had the suspicion that not all orders like this are signed.
All–re the nuts thing. It’s a threat…but it’s also an odd one at that, the more I think about it. McAuliffe was the one surrounded by the enemy when he issued that response. Does the defense think it is surrounded? If the answer is no, then they are just throwing something out to gauge the reaction. If the answer is yes, then we’ve got them on the run. Remember, the defense is not defending an honorable man, which is so different from the original nuts cry. The more I think of it, the more it just seems like belligerent and bellicose blathering and bellowing. We do see through the smokescreen, though. But, it stinks like BO just the same!
JeffM.
I agree: Leo is a good researcher, and is right some of the time, but I’ve seen him wrong several times too.
Don’t believe it? Just go back and read all the “updated corrections” on his blog over the last year.
Like I said; I thinks he’s risen to Super Star status in the blogosphere, and it’s become a cult like following for him.
He’s just a man, nothing more, nothing less.
He needs to check his ego at the door, and stop playing God.
the South–this probably is what is happening.
I enjoy listening to Leo, but now that he has
come out with his recent “statements” in the Orly case which are conterproductive for “our side” I feel he needs to stay out of her case and
STOP making “unhelpful” remarks.
ALL
Well DUH, it took losing the Olympics to draw attention to this. Well worth losing if some good comes out of this. Guess the politicians are starting to worry that they look like incompetent idiots in full view of the world.
Chicago lost Olympics, something good did come out of that. After 20-25 years of this violence in the streets involving children the government noticed. Obama’s old turf, he was there for 20years and he didn’t notice. More LIES.
Home U.S. WASHINGTON, Oct. 7, 2009
U.S.: 60% of Kids Exposed to Violence
Attorney General Calls Government Data “Staggering” but Some Experts Question Survey’s Methodology
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Mayor Richard Daley speaks at a news conference in Chicago, Wednesday, Oct. 7, 2009. Attorney General Eric Holder (right) listens in the background.The recent beating death of a Chicago high school student has brought U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan along with Holder to Chicago to discuss youth violence with Daley. (AP Photo/John Smierciak)
Student Beating Caught on Tape
Cell phone footage shows a group of teens fatally beating Derrion Albert, a 16-year-old honors student
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(AP) Justice Department researchers said Wednesday that most children in the United States are exposed to violence in their daily lives – findings that Attorney General Eric Holder called “staggering.”
A leading criminologist cautioned that the survey may be lumping serious and minor incidents together.
More than 60 percent of children surveyed were exposed to violence within the past year, either directly or indirectly, according to data compiled by the department. The survey’s authors defined exposure to violence as being a victim, or having witnessed violence, or learning about violence against a relative, friend, or hearing about a threat to their school or home.
That approach raised questions for some.
“What concerns me when you hear numbers like this is that in their attempt to be inclusive, which is commendable, the definition of violence becomes so broad that the results lack real meaning,” said James Alan Fox, criminal justice professor at Northeastern University. “If you broaden the definition of violence so much, then most people will be included.”
Nearly half of all children surveyed were assaulted at least once in the past year, and about 6 percent were victimized sexually, the survey found.
“Those numbers are astonishing, and they are unacceptable,” Holder said in Chicago, where he was meeting with local officials to discuss the disturbing beating death of a high school student by other teens.
“We simply cannot stand for an epidemic of violence that robs our youth of their childhood and perpetuates a cycle in which today’s victims become tomorrow’s criminals,” Holder said.
For example, the survey’s definition of sexual victimization includes rape, attempted rape, sexual harrassment, or flashing.
Among the survey’s other findings:
– Nearly one in ten children said they saw one family member assault another in the past year.
– More than one-half of the children, about 57 percent, reported having been assaulted at some point in their life.
– Thirteen percent reported having been physically bullied in the last year.
The results were based on telephone interviews of 4,549 kids and adolescents aged 17 and younger between January and May of 2008. The National Survey of Children’s Exposure to Violence was sponsored by the Justice Department’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, with help from the Centers for Disease Control.
The attorney general and Education Secretary Arne Duncan were in Chicago Wednesday to meet with local officials, parents, and students to discuss the vicious beating of a 16-year-old high school student whose killing last month was captured on a cell phone video.
Derrion Albert, an honor roll student at Christian Fenger Academy High School, was attacked when he got caught up in a mob of teens about six blocks from school. Video shows him curled up on the sidewalk as fellow teens kick him and hit him with splintered railroad ties. So far, four teens have been charged in his death.
JS—Where have you been? Looked for your
postings. What do you think about Orly’s case
thusfar? Thanks. Maddie.
kittycat,
Here’s my response to Leo D:
ALL-Andrea Shea King, note Orly on on Friday.
http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/
Coming up!
Thursday night, attorney Mario Apuzzo and lead plaintiff Charles Kerchner will fill us in on their suit before US District Court, District of New Jersey Judge Jerome Simandle, a case that has been dragging on since last August 3rd. The link to that show:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ASKShow/2009/10/09/The-Andrea-Shea-King-Show
And we’ll wrap up the week on Friday with Attorney Orly Taitz, so-called leader of the “birther” movement, who was profiled in Tuesday’s Washington Post.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ASKShow/2009/10/10/The-Andrea-Shea-King-Show
maddie,
Not only are Mr. Donofrio’s recent quo warranto statements unhelpful they’re flat out wrong!
SueK–
my mom using the phrase “his nibs” when
affectionately referring to a young family member. She’ll say, “How’s his nibs?”
Maybe it came from the “majesty” thing
the British always have—the children
are always referred to as “the little prince or
princess” (and this is anyone’s child, not just
“royalty”).
Your tax dollars at work…
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/the_rise_of_the_new_aristocrac.html
JeffM–thank you for clarification of this.
After listening to Leo, I thought that was the
only way, not I realize he’s not always going in the right direction.
Jeff, at the appeal level can the case
remain in CA ?
What is the reference point for above comments referencing a sinister tone from DOJ attorneys with such as the following:
military history /Patton,”nuts” and protecting the president?????
I would really appreciate knowing where this comes from.
I think Leo D. must be worried his legal take on NBC might be buggered up.
It would seem of this judge lets it roll forward he can be appealed later and then at least TRUTH is liberated perhaps or falsehoods put to sleep so we can focus on the serious situation in Afghanistan. Surely to goodness this Judge wonders about our soldiers over there getting blown up…..
Magna Carta…wrong.He knows the Administrative State we are operating under,though he doesn’t go over it in public.We are being played if this case proceeds.It is ripe for appeal and this will drag on for years.You people need to stop playing “lawyer” and educate yourselves.
maddie,
Yes. The CACD which is the United States District Court for the Central District of California is in District 9. The appeals court for circuit 9 is located in San Francisco.
I also believe Leo is going to be proven wrong once Obamas birth certificate sees the light of day.
I believe those records have been amended, and it’s going to show what we have long suspected; a foreign birth, registered in HI.
I don’t know why Leo insist that Obama was born in HI.
I think he’s so emotionally wrapped up in the NBC issue, that he won’t let himself believe the obvious.
Maybe not, we’ll see!
zoom,
One must not think of this legal venue this way. If they drag out in the courts, so be it.
Even if the case gets resolved 3 years from now, it will prevent this taboggle from occurring with future usurpers.
That’s assuming we have a republic to defend by 2012.
Am I wrong in believing that this case will never see a jury?
It’s ‘ovah’ with discovery.
Some light reading for Obama
The Obots still hail ya
And Congress tries to regale ya
But we’ve all tried to mail ya
To let you know we’re going to nail ya
Even if Soros pays to bail ya
We’ll try our best to jail ya
Cuz if you’re gonna follow Raila
You are going to fail-a…
I’m apologize in advance if this has already been posted, I haven’t had time to read comments yet.
School age kids singing for Healthcare Reform to the tune of Miley Cyrus’ “Party in the USA” on the set of CNN.
WTF???? I am so livid, I don’t even know where to begin with my words….
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/10/07/school_kids_sing_for_health_care_reform_on_set_of_cnn.html
SueK:–
I think you’re on target. Anyway, Judge Carter’s case is not necessarily to eject Obama (as under quo warranto). The case is about candidate Keyes vs. candidate Obama, alleging candidate Obama was inelligible to run. Keyes could recover some damages; and let Obama stay in office (if anyone would still want him) after that!
Yikes
http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/protocols/index.html
Odd!
I thought WE were defending the institution of the presidency.
And THEY were defiending the man!
WTH????????
CW –
Thanks for posting the Leo Haffey information. This is the kind of “narrative” I said was missing – such that it was difficult for all of us to have a legitimate opinion about the situation.
Something certainly does smell rotten – some strong light shining (i.e. disinfectant) certainly seems called for.
Now, even I, the skeptic, am getting a little fluffed up. (Sorry if that phrase confuses. Perhaps you don’t have cats. Cat owners will understand.)
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maddie // October 7, 2009 at 11:30 pm
JS—Where have you been? Looked for your
postings. What do you think about Orly’s case
thusfar? Thanks. Maddie.
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Hey Maddie….I have been busy today….I was working with jbjd to see if I could file a one of her complaints in Nevada…..she indicated I probably can’t because my state is not applicable to her complaints….I haven’t found the correct statute yet…..Orly’s case seems to be moving forward as far as I can tell…..I am one her email list and I received the information from her directly about the judge’s orders….many people emailed me and said she had jumped the gun and was misreading what the court said….I guess time will tell….who am I to tell Orly she is wrong….she knows a heck of a lot more than I do!! 🙂 🙂
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JeffM // October 7, 2009 at 11:38 pm
maddie,
Not only are Mr. Donofrio’s recent quo warranto statements unhelpful they’re flat out wrong!
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I agree with you JeffM 🙂 🙂
Kevin Jennings Controversy
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=10462714&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
Jacqylin:–
Neither Orly Taitz or Judge Carter jumped the gun. Judge Carter has the legal discretion to proceed with discovery even though he hasn’t yet decided (or denied) the Motion to Dismiss which would otherwise be dispositive. Check it out. That’s the case law.
Moreover, Judge Carter’s case is not necessarily to eject Obama (as under quo warranto). The case is about CANDIDATE Keyes vs. CANDIDATE Obama (Obama was smartly served by Orly BEFORE he became President), alleging candidate Obama was inelligible to run.
Keyes could recover some damages; and let Obama stay in office (if anyone would still want him) after that!
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Jack // October 8, 2009 at 1:41 am
Jacqylin:–
Neither Orly Taitz or Judge Carter jumped the gun. Judge Carter has the legal discretion to proceed with discovery even though he hasn’t yet decided (or denied) the Motion to Dismiss which would otherwise be dispositive. Check it out. That’s the case law.
Moreover, Judge Carter’s case is not necessarily to eject Obama (as under quo warranto). The case is about CANDIDATE Keyes vs. CANDIDATE Obama (Obama was smartly served by Orly BEFORE he became President), alleging candidate Obama was inelligible to run.
Keyes could recover some damages; and let Obama stay in office (if anyone would still want him) after that!
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Jack….I’m not an attorney but I tend to agree with you…..I have said all along that Keyes should have standing as one candidate against another…I do know that Orly was doing her best as did Mr. Apuzzo to file before the FRAUD took his oath to be POTUS…as it was he screwed it up so….technically he wasn’t sworn in until the next day….who knows what that was all about because it was done away from the media!!
The following information is at Orly’s site….
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
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From retired military Magistrate and one of my plaintiffs Steve Neuenschwander
Posted on | October 8, 2009 | No Comments
Has The Judge Thrown You Two Olive Branches
Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:41 PM From: “Steve Neuenschwander” View contact details To: “Orly Taitz”
HI, Orly. Is it possible the judge has saved you from two possible or most probable appeals by the defendants? As he has indirectly, as it appears, denied their motion to dismiss without specifically stating, he has in effect barred them from an appeal on that matter. Likewise, he has also forced them now to either come clean or continue with discovery of the facts. In either case he puts them in the uncomfortable position of perjuring themselves along with Clinton and Biden. I was thinking that as we now have evidence that Pelosi altered the DNC Certification that she to be added as a defendant to the case as well as the witness and the notary public to the two certification documents as even the notary is at minimum culpable in the conspiracy as she notarized both documents on the same date and most probably at the same time.
It would appear that the only recourse the defendants would have at this point is an appeal should the judge rule in our favor after the full trial. If the documented evidence is there that would also be most probably moot as well.
Steve Neuenschwander
Steve Neuenschwander
Also at Orly’s site from a commenter named Carol…..
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Are we getting some help? I hope so
Posted on | October 7, 2009 | No Comments
We Love You “Esther/Joan of Arc”
Wednesday, October 7, 2009 4:31 PM
From:
“carol hugenberg” View contact details
To:
dr_taitz@yahoo.com
Dear Orly:
God keeps choosing the weak in the Bible to conquer the mighty, to show to all that He is the victor, not mere mortals.
Again, He has chosen you, a humble feisty Russian immigrant woman, to stand up for our Constitution and for the Truth….God bless you always for your undying devotion to What is Right.
I know how the French felt now, when Joan of Arc saved France. Awesome.
We will all keep praying for you.
Today October 7 in the Catholic Church is the Feast of the Holy Rosary.
Also, Mary appeared to 3 children in Fatima, in October 13, 1917, asking them to pray the Rosary and sacrifice, to save Russia and the world from Communism. That is the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima next week. (Bishop Sheen on Youtube talks of Fatima)
Therefore, the timing of your victory is spiritually significant, as you lead the fight against Communism creeping into our country.
Pope John Paul II and Pesident Ronald Reagan worked tirelessly together to bring down Communism. I knew it was very auspicious and no accident when your court date was scheduled in the Ronald Reagan Building.
God is with you, Orly, and when He is with you, who can be against you…..Lead Onward, Bright Orly, Lady Liberty!!
God bless you, protect you, and we all thank you for your tireless efforts.
There is much work ahead for you, but also there is certain victory…the Truth always wins.
May St. Michael the Archangel, Protector of Israel and the Catholic Church, and his legions of angels always and ever be with you.
You have won our hearts, Orly,
Carol
Answer:
Thank you Carol,
I knew nothing about the 13th, but I got a call from one of major TV networks asking to do a show on that day. I will be back East on the 12-13th. RTR- Russian television and Radio crew will be shooting their program the same time. I will be doing radio shows on several networks at the same time as well. Maybe it is all a coincidence, maybe we are getting some help.
Orly
Jeff M… you are missing the point.The end does not jutify the means.Carter doesn’t have subject mater jurisdiction.He knows it.The DOJ knows it.This has all been a delaying tactic revoling around Orly until martial law takes place.You will learn this the hard way in the near future.
More chatter about Orly’s case….make sure you read the comments…..some are still in disbelief that the case was not dismissed!!!
http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8737&posts=4
JS, That letter from Steve N…that thought ran across my mind today also. I didn’t know about posting it because I didn’t think it would be a good idea to put it out there for the Obots…I don’t know why really…I’m not a lawyer, I’m just so untrusting of these Obama puppets.
But it’s out there now, and I was thinking along those lines that it seems to leave the defense without recourse momentarily. Maybe one of you lawyers can jump in and give us the plausibility of this.
ticktock….I agree…..the OBOTS are out in force right now and are squirming BIG TIME!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
For those, who’d like to read the entire Quo Warrento Statute in the D.C. Code, I have reprinted the current version at
John Charlton // October 8, 2009 at 3:54 am
For those, who’d like to read the entire Quo Warrento Statute in the D.C. Code, I have reprinted the current version at
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Thanks John….does this mean because Holder and the D of C att. general didn’t act that now any attorney in any court can file the quo warranto as Orly is doing……I’m not sure I understand…..someone here please explain to all of us lay people! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Short story — My first contest over someone else’s birth certificate.
My son played varsity high school football as a Freshman. Another high school fielded a ‘ringer,’ a player who was just too good to be true. They had won 4 games in a row.
My son broke his arm trying to tackle the ‘ringer.’ We had no insurance, so I was out $1000!
I complained to the Athletic Director that the ‘ringer’ was at least 20 years old. My son was 15 years old. I demanded that she get the ‘ringer’s’ birth certificate. It came back, showing that he was 17 years old.
My dad had genealogy software — so I took the ‘ringers’ name, and discovered he was recorded in the U.S. census in the State of Missouri, and therefore, he had to be at least 21 years old!
The State of Missouri children’s services had amended the student’s birth certificate so that he could be ‘adopted’ in the State of Wisconsin.
Now my son had a broken arm, because two bureaucrats lied!
Candidate Keyes ‘Quo Warranto’ was best described above as ‘by what right does Candidate Obama RUN?’ not as Leo Donofrio believes as ‘by what right does President Obama SERVE?’
That’s a BIG difference. That is why I raised the question, ‘Why is DOJ involved?’
When the Chancellor of a local university was being investigated for what he did at his old job, the regents told him basically, ‘You’re on your own, pal! We’re not hiring your attorney for you!’
That’s what DOJ should have done in this case!
Jacqlyn Smith // October 8, 2009 at 4:05 am
Thanks John….does this mean because Holder and the D of C att. general didn’t act that now any attorney in any court can file the quo warranto as Orly is doing……I’m not sure I understand…..someone here please explain to all of us lay people
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Jacqlyn,
I will try to answer your question to the best of my ability.
Quo warranto is only available once a person is in office. You can only use it to eject somebody who is usurping. Only the DC District Court may entertain a Quo Warranto for a “national office holder” in DC. It states that the statute explicitly applies to the DC District Court, no other.
Many have stated that since Orly filed a QW to the AG and US attorney (before he resigned) and they instead “squatted” on the QW and never answered, nor recognized it, then nothing more can be done in that venue. However, that is not correct. What “should” have happened, is “if” an AG or US attorney sit on a QW, then Under 16-3503 Orly had the chance to bypass the AG and US Attorney by way of a verified complaint. They didn’t avail themselves of that issue. They haven’t exhausted their chances in the proper court.
The statute doesn’t require the assent of the AG if her clients are “interested persons” under the statute. She may issue a verified petition straight to the Court by way of 16-3503 and request leave to issue the writ:
§ 16-3503. Refusal of Attorney General or United States attorney to act; procedure.
…….If the Attorney General or United States attorney refuses to institute a quo warranto proceeding on the request of a person interested, the interested person may apply to the court by certified petition for leave to have the writ issued. When, in the opinion of the court, the reasons set forth in the petition are sufficient in law, the writ shall be allowed to be issued by any attorney, in the name of the United States, …
Where I become slightly confused, pertains to the proper venue “if” a person such as Obama is served “prior” to becoming the President and what is the correct argument. I do see that Under 3 U.S.C. § 15, the DOJ motion to dismiss with Orly whereby they conveniently cut the statute off when they bring it into the brief. Vice President Cheney failed to call for objections as the statute requires. Those provisions were not properly followed on January 8, 2009 when the votes for Obama were counted. And the district court therefore does have jurisdiction to review a failure of the Government to follow the laws enacted to protect the integrity of the electoral process. But Orly also has QW tied in with this and I cannot understand why. Therefore, I can only answer some questions as I personally have many more.
I hope this helps, least the way I understand it.
Bob,
That is awful! I am sorry to hear that.
I think I would take my evidence of knowledge to the school which allowed this (Adult) to play on the team and point out their clear violation of school policy (and possibly State Policy), knowingly or not, matters none. If your child sustained such an injury-in-fact while the school clearly was in a violation, then I would without doubt, seek a reimbursement at the least.
Wow, it’s nice that Leo is speaking out for the Constitution, but it sounds like he was being threatening and a real jerk, and against a woman! Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have bail, but let’s be fair. That’s what we’re expecting from everyone else, after all.
Morning All,
Running to work, but just wanted to tell you that the MA House is debating the ‘vaccine quarantine bill’ today.
**The House has removed the mandatory vaccine provision from their version.**
I’ll keep tabs on this today and will post info as soon as I get it.
Hi Legal USA Citizen Patriots,
I sent these blog comments to Leo to read.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/08/is_obama_becoming_a_joke__98619.html
Don’t need to read the whole thing. The title is enough.
Hi Legal USA Citizen Patriots,
I sent these blog comments to Leo to read.
http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com
Jacqlyn,
I will try to answer your question to the best of my ability.
Quo warranto is only available once a person is in office. You can only use it to eject somebody who is usurping. Only the DC District Court may entertain a Quo Warranto for a “national office holder” in DC. It states that the statute explicitly applies to the DC District Court, no other.
Many have stated that since Orly filed a QW to the AG and US attorney (before he resigned) and they instead “squatted” on the QW and never answered, nor recognized it, then nothing more can be done in that venue. However, that is not correct. What “should” have happened, is “if” an AG or US attorney sit on a QW, then Under 16-3503 Orly had the chance to bypass the AG and US Attorney by way of a verified complaint. They didn’t avail themselves of that issue. They haven’t exhausted their chances in the proper court.
The statute doesn’t require the assent of the AG if her clients are “interested persons” under the statute. She may issue a verified petition straight to the Court by way of 16-3503 and request leave to issue the writ:
§ 16-3503. Refusal of Attorney General or United States attorney to act; procedure.
…….If the Attorney General or United States attorney refuses to institute a quo warranto proceeding on the request of a person interested, the interested person may apply to the court by certified petition for leave to have the writ issued. When, in the opinion of the court, the reasons set forth in the petition are sufficient in law, the writ shall be allowed to be issued by any attorney, in the name of the United States, …
Where I become slightly confused, pertains to the proper venue “if” a person such as Obama is served “prior” to becoming the President and what is the correct argument. I do see that Under 3 U.S.C. § 15, the DOJ motion to dismiss with Orly whereby they conveniently cut the statute off when they bring it into the brief. Vice President Cheney failed to call for objections as the statute requires. Those provisions were not properly followed on January 8, 2009 when the votes for Obama were counted. And the district court therefore does have jurisdiction to review a failure of the Government to follow the laws enacted to protect the integrity of the electoral process. But Orly also has QW tied in with this and I cannot understand why. Therefore, I can only answer some questions as I personally have many more.
I hope this helps, least the way I understand it.
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William…..Thank you for trying to explain…still a bit confusing but it sounds like Orly needs to find the proper court to file the Quo Warranto if I am reading it right….what about the Superior Court that people have mentioned here on this blog….I believe Rod Class has a case filed there….someone had mentioned it was the court for the people!!! Do you know about that??
Bob,
I agree with William. The school is at fault
allowing this “ringer” over-aged person to even
play in the game. I would consult an attorney
and file for damages at the very least. This
kind of crap needs to stop!
Best wishes to your son. Take care!
Maddie.
Vice President Cheney failed to call for objections as the statute requires.
This is the point I and others kept harping on
during the joint session.
WHY did Cheney did it???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
correction: should read above
WHY DIDN’T Vice President Cheney do it–
that is call for objections???????!!!!!!!!!!
Is CW a lawyer, can’t remember?
William,
Can Orly file for discovery right away?
William // October 8, 2009 at 7:41 am
Jacqlyn Smith // October 8, 2009 at 4:05 am
Thanks John….does this mean because Holder and the D of C att. general didn’t act that now any attorney in any court can file the quo warranto as Orly is doing……I’m not sure I understand…..someone here please explain to all of us lay people
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Jacqlyn,
I will try to answer your question to the best of my ability.
Quo warranto is only available once a person is in office. You can only use it to eject somebody who is usurping. Only the DC District Court may entertain a Quo Warranto for a “national office holder” in DC. It states that the statute explicitly applies to the DC District Court, no other.
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William….Also…..before the Fraud was confirmed….I along with hundreds of others sent to our Senators and Congress people a point of order to redress our grievance against the Fraud not being eligible to be POTUS….these went unnoticed by all of them…..is there nothing we can do with these….I know many people sent them via mail with a return receipt that acknowledge the Senators and House of Rep did receive them….but nothing was ever redressed???
@ Maddie 9:00
I believe she already has, as of yesterday afternoon.
This is from the PostnEmail blog’s John Charlton yesterday
RichardL
CW,
in my post very early on in this thread I mentioned something about past life regressions. I did so because I read in the documentation you provided that Leo’s neighbor was certified to practice same. Thought I should clarify why I made that statement. I realize it sounded random. Of course one could take that alone and run with it…
Any new news on his plight?
You Decide
Taliban Not a Threat to U.S.?
Do you agree that the Taliban pose no direct threat to the U.S.?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/08/decide-afghanistan-taliban-threat/
JeffM…is this true??
[ed. Has everyone forgotten that the Magistrate has already agreed with the DOJ motion to stay discovery and that the decision was upheld by Judge Carter. There will be NO discovery in this case unless Judge Carter decides the MTD in favor of plaintiffs. The golden chance for discovery was previouslydiscussed at this blog.
Posting humor now:
Ditto:
http://terrellaftermath.com/
Why no testimony from McChrystal?
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=508315
http://rightoons.com/boblang.shtml
Don’t know if anyone else saw this … last night on Jay Leno, he had Kathline Sebilus (sp) via satelite, and Jay mentioned that he heard she played basketball. He asked her if she thought she could take the PP on … she says ….
Well, at least I made the team!
The audience went nuts!
“[Bill] Ayers at Starbucks”
by Jack Cashill, Ph.D.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112245
Jacqlyn Smith, could you contact me by e-mail? CW, would you be so kind as to pass on my e-mail to her? Thanks in advance!
For those, who’d like to read the entire Quo Warrento Statute in the D.C. Code, I have reprinted the current version at…….
I finally found some pictures from what I think was the Million Med march (doctors against O-care):
http://www.theospark.net/2009/10/doctors-against-obamacare-rally-in-dc.html#links
WH makes Olympic Czar permanent.
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/w.h.-olympic-office-now-permanent/
Posted from Orlys site
From retired military Magistrate and one of my plaintiffs Steve Neuenschwander
Posted on | October 8, 2009 | No Comments
Has The Judge Thrown You Two Olive Branches
Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:41 PM From: “Steve Neuenschwander” View contact details To: “Orly Taitz”
HI, Orly. Is it possible the judge has saved you from two possible or most probable appeals by the defendants? As he has indirectly, as it appears, denied their motion to dismiss without specifically stating, he has in effect barred them from an appeal on that matter. Likewise, he has also forced them now to either come clean or continue with discovery of the facts. In either case he puts them in the uncomfortable position of perjuring themselves along with Clinton and Biden. I was thinking that as we now have evidence that Pelosi altered the DNC Certification that she to be added as a defendant to the case as well as the witness and the notary public to the two certification documents as even the notary is at minimum culpable in the conspiracy as she notarized both documents on the same date and most probably at the same time.
It would appear that the only recourse the defendants would have at this point is an appeal should the judge rule in our favor after the full trial. If the documented evidence is there that would also be most probably moot as well.
Steve Neuenschwander
Just looking at the Lucas Smith youtube comment page. There’s a lot of garbage over there, but back up to the comments from yesterday afternoon and ‘Inspector Smith” aka – Lucas … says he got an email from Orly saying the Judge wants him to testify. ???
He has a lot of comments over there from yesterday and he claims Orly has ‘slept around’ with clients. I can’t imagine he would be helpful to her. Only if they keep him on topic!! He says he will be happy to testify in front of the judge … but it’s the way he types it … all letters in upper case. ?????
Lucas Smith – Inspector Smith youtube comment page:
http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith
Jacqlyn Smith // October 8, 2009 at 8:50 am
William…..Thank you for trying to explain…still a bit confusing but it sounds like Orly needs to find the proper court to file the Quo Warranto if I am reading it right….what about the Superior Court that people have mentioned here on this blog….I believe Rod Class has a case filed there….someone had mentioned it was the court for the people!!! Do you know about that??
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Jacqlyn,
Filing a QW in any State is not the problem. The Problem is when using QW for “national office holder” in DC, ie.. President, V.P. Sec. of State, ect… THEN your QW MUST BE FILED, fought, battled, argued in the DC court. It clearly states:
……“In 1901, Congress specifically authorized the United States District Court for the District of Columbia to issue quo warranto in the name of the United States. Act of March 3, 1901, 31 Stat. 1419, Title 16, Section 1601 of the D.C. Code (1940). However, this grant is “strictly limited and is confined solely to situations involving franchises and public offices held within the District of Columbia.” “There is no other specific statutory provision vesting original jurisdiction in the district courts in quo warranto actions.“
In short, No Statue exists granting any State jurisdiction to issue or hear a QW involving a national office holder, at all. If one did exist, then it would simply say so. In other words, it does not say that any other court in any State may also issue a writ of QW against a national office holder in the DC area…it specifically says that if a national office holder…..then must be filed in DC.
Does that help?
“Saudis ask for aid if world cuts dependence on oil”
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/energy/6657947.html
William,
The Superior Court of DC is IN the District of Columbia.
Patriot Dreamer,
“Saudis ask for air….”
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I don’t think I could read that article this early in the morning. The headline alone makes me furious. Isn’t the death toll of our soldiers enough aid? What’s the death toll of their soldiers? Oh…I forgot, they don’t really have a strong military force on the frontlines fighting for themselves. They just provide base(s) for the U.S.
I digress…
Patriot Dreamer,
oops, typo. Should be …Saudis ask for AID – I wrote air.
William
RE: Jacqlyn,
Filing a QW in any State is not the problem. The Problem is when using QW for “national office holder” in DC, ie.. President, V.P. Sec. of State, ect… THEN your QW MUST BE FILED, fought, battled, argued in the DC court. It clearly states:
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I am trying to grasp the meaning of all this legal wording too,
My question….I thought Orly’s cse was filed before he actually became a National office holder and that is where there is differing opinons at this stage.
Some saying she is in the wrong court, but at the time filed, he was not national so does that make a difference?
I’m really stupid…if MTD hasn’t been ruled, and ‘discovery’ hasn’t been ordered, what progress on this case to this date has been achieved really???
Maddie —
That was years ago now — and it was my son who did not want to sue his own school or the other school. Besides, my wife eventually went to work at the other school.
And, I think the football conference took care of the matter after the season — the football coach and athletic director were reprimanded.
My point was this — vital records appear to be changed all the time, and no one has really seemed to care about it before. So, what Leo D. and Miss Tickly are doing to Hawaii is long overdue, on my opnion.
I still have certificates and canceled passports from long, long ago — and they have never changed. because I traveled around Europe in a freighter with friends when I was 15 years old.
And, my dad was able to track our family tree all the way back to musty old hand-written ledgers in small country churches in Northern Europe — it was quite amazing!
So, I think it is important that these records be maintained correctly — but, apparently, not all government officials agree — at least in some jurisdictions.
Jacqlyn Smith // October 8, 2009 at 9:11 am
William….Also…..before the Fraud was confirmed….I along with hundreds of others sent to our Senators and Congress people a point of order to redress our grievance against the Fraud not being eligible to be POTUS….these went unnoticed by all of them…..is there nothing we can do with these….I know many people sent them via mail with a return receipt that acknowledge the Senators and House of Rep did receive them….but nothing was ever redressed???
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In my opinion and research yes! Remember, Mario Apuzzo filed for Charles Kerchner for the same reason.
Like most, I am not an Attorney; my degree is Engineering and Advance Statistics. Both of my Plant facilities shut down last Sept., which is when I became curious, involved and researched the Obama issues and the various legal suits ongoing. My paradigm is that it simply does not matter which attorney crosses the finish-line first, so long as its done and Obama as well as the DNC is exposed.
Anyone,
My head is spinning with all of these “arguments”/”discussions” about this case. Certainly they all seem plausible and confusing.
It would be great if someone could summarize in layman’s terms for those of us that don’t read or follow the legal jargon of all this. I’ve read most posts twice and am still confused. Thank you!
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The Saudi’s are getting ready to dump the dollar in favor of a “basket” of other currencies so they’ll no longer be buying our debt. That was the deal. They break the deal, all bets are off. That frees us to use our own oil reserves. And no, we should NOT send them any aid after that.
Kim // October 8, 2009 at 10:30 am
William,
The Superior Court of DC is IN the District of Columbia.
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Jacqlyn Smith // October 8, 2009 at 8:50 am
William,
….what about the Superior Court that people have mentioned here on this blog….I believe Rod Class has a case filed there….someone had mentioned it was the court for the people!!!
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Since we were discussing the QW filed in California, I assumed Jacqlyn was asking about the Superior Court of California, since it was not specified. I am not aware of any QW filed in DC, I would however enjoying reading it if anyone has the case link. Please post.
Kim,
for starters, maybe Obama could return his gold necklace if he hasn’t already melted it down by then.
zoom // October 8, 2009 at 2:49 am ,
ALL justices in the federal circuits and districts have subject matter jurisdiction. I’m not sure where all this hokus pokus is coming from but anything under U.S. Constitutional law applies and every judge has jurisdiction over it unless it states specifically that a different body has jurisdiction over it.
If you can point me in the right direction with regards to cases of quo warranto jurisdiction in U.S. code, that would be great.
John Charlton // October 8, 2009 at 3:54 am,
Thank you for all the statutes, but I’m not clear as to why this is relevant to quo warranto cases filed by private parties outside of the scope of the Federal government.
Please note the following:
A quo warranto may be issued from the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States against a person who within the District of Columbia usurps, intrudes into, or unlawfully holds or exercises, a franchise conferred by the United States or a public office of the United States, civil or military. The proceedings shall be deemed a civil action.”
Since said plaintiffs here are representing themselves, they are filing quo warranto in the name of the plaintiffs against said defendant.
That’s why this statute is irrelevent to the current case and the judge has jurisdiction over it. Now, if oh say Billy Bob from Alabam wants to file quo warranto on behalf of the people of the United States, then the above statute applies.
I have seen one historical case where this actually happened in DC. The plaintiff requested permission from the courts to file quo warranto in the name of the U.S. Refer to statute 16-3502. It discusses who can file QW on behalf of the U.S. and what rules are in place to make this happen.
Truefreedom,
Trust me when I say that I too have a difficult time analyzing much of this jargon and tactics. I agree whereby Orly (as well as Mario Apuzzo) filed “Prior” to Barry taking the oath. I also agree that since this was done, then he should not be entitled to the use of the DOJ, and subject matter jurisdiction is definitely applicable in both States for each Attorney. This is where the legal waters become a little “murky” for me.
In my opinion and research, I do in fact believe that Judge Carter has legal Jurisdiction over Orly’s case. In fact, the DOJ’s motion to dismiss (MTD) clearly shows he does. For example, if you review the DOJ’s MTD, they “Clearly” cut off the same Statutory rule in which they ask Dismissal. For example, in the MTD the DOJ quoted this Statue: U.S.C. § 15
“[e]very objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made . . . shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision.”
Here is what the “Rest of the Statue” states, the part the DOJ “intentionally left out”..:
“Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof…”
Why is this important? Simply because the DOJ knowingly admits that a procedural protocol from the Federal Government was not followed, in particular, V.P. Cheney whereby he failed to call for objections. This is a well known fact of which evidence exists, ie… Minutes, video, audio, ect..
By the DOJ cleverly cutting off the Statue in their own argument that they themselves raised for MTD, they in turn admit procedural errors. In that manner, Judge Carter’s court does in fact have subject matter Jurisdiction to review a failure of the Government to follow the laws enacted to protect the integrity of the electoral process! No QW needed, in my opinion (at this time). Again, I am not an attorney therefore I can only give my opinion.
As for Standing, I personally believe that is does in fact exist. I cannot help but to wonder why all the Standing issues whereby the DOJ in most all cases claim that others in the U.S. are equally affected, therefore the Injury in not Unique to those listed on the Plaintiffs case. Ok, I can agree with that if the same rule of Standing is equally applied through every case in the U.S., but it is not. Having pondered this “Standing” issue and researching it, I have concluded it is highly bias and leaves me with many unanswered questions.
For example, how does an extremist group ranting about the removal of a wolf species off the endangered species group have “Standing” and pass the test? Regardless if they lose or win their case is irreverent, they still passed. Their claim is that by removing the wolves off the list will only eliminate the species from farmers completely wiping them out by shooting them. How is this legal argument an Injury-in-fact and how is it “Specific” only to those listed on the Plaintiff’s suit? It’s not, and in fact, the Injury is purely speculative as the Injury has not yet occurred and why is the question not put to them about every other U.S. Citizen? The same is true with the Environmental Wacko Groups that have passed the Standing test. How do they claim Specific injury in fact when the “Block” a manufacturing plant from being built or a Nuclear Plant, or extend an Oil Line in Alaska from something that has yet to even happen? But they are given standing and I don’t recall any Judge ever asking them about those in the rest of the U.S. So yes, in my opinion Orly and every other Attorney does have Standing.
Just my opinion and questions as well.
Jack agrees with many of these posts:
Jack // Oct 8, 2009 at 5:55 pm
As it appears that the case of Candidate Keyes vs. Candidate(Not pres) Obama is continuing to discovery in Federal District Ct., Santa Ana, Ca, with Judge Carter having taken the Justice Dept’s Motion to Dismiss under submission without ruling (and which would only pertain to Obama Post-Inauguration, not as a candidate private citizen), our prayers are to protect Alan Keyes, Orly Taitz and Judge Carter.
While the case to proceed concerns candidate Obama, served before he became President, may not be quo warranto or to eject Obama from office, a win by Taitz and Keyes would be tantamount to the same thing.
The Congress would be compelled to impeach Obama once there was any recovery by Keyes against Obama, even nominal.
That is, the ruling would need be only that Obama was inelligible to RUN for President (without ever getting to the issue of inelligibility to SERVE as President).
God save the USA!
William ,
Thank you for taking the time to help clarify things for me and so many others checking in here for info and analysis and facts as they are happening.
I agree with what so many others here have stated – we are all getting an education in law and procedures most of us never thought much about before.
By the way, Brent Horst was my Atty. at one time. I had him dismissed in 2005. He was inadequate(?). My case was out of his league. Only after I’d hired him, did I come and did he admit to being but a one man law firm of limited resources…at that time…and that he primarilly defended (alleged) sexual perverts and child molesters. He went on to cost me a great deal of trouble and big money!
On a whim, I tried to phone him the other night and the operator informed me there was no Brent Horst list, Attorney or otherwise??? Not even in the entire state of TN. Where is he? With Metro? But wouldn’t he still be in the phone book? He moved to a large downtown office after losing my case. He’d been in a run down old house north of downtown just prior. I believe I know what caused that move. My big case was against many high up officials, including the Sheriff and the city and many more. He helped to ruin me.
Boots.
How are you?
Citizenwells.
I’m still around, so to speak. I’m breathing in and out. I continue to exist. Physically, the pain is at times, almost unbearable. My emotional state at this time is all but hopeless. I have an 83 year old Mother I try to care for, but I think we care for each other. And I have my last faithful Lab, laying in my lap right now. She seems to feel my pain. My anger is always right beneath the surface. I’m pretty much homebound and we have now been forced to reside in a run down farmhouse Church people have helped us to obtain, but still must watch every single penny. And we are living on my Mother’s Social Security right now and my food stamps. We have no car anymore and rely on church people to take us shopping, but I can barely walk, and my Mother is not much better. She fell in the kitchen last week and split the back of her head open and had to go to ER in ambulance. Blood was everywhere. She’s doing better now, but has Dementia/Alzheimer’s type with Aphasia and Agnosia. I am suppose to be her Caretaker. Our lives should never have turned out this way. It was totally 180 degrees polar opposite prior to LE and Judiciary and Attorneys and Privately Managed Prison and prison healthcare businesses, and all the greedy people of whom I can rattle off an easy 25 of, who destroyed my life and ruin my Mother’s.
I keep a loaded 38 at my side constantly, as I will never let these tyrannists take me from my home alive again, and if things just get too bad for me overall, and I become a burden to my Mother. They have sent U.S. Marshals out to my front door on four occasions, twice early on to arrest me and more to harass me and derail my lawsuit against them. They can never again put this tortured and crippled body into chains from wrists to waist to ankles ever again. It would be too unbearably painful. If they come to my door again, I will use my gun immediately to end my life before they get inside. The first time they had the US Marshals arrest me I, being the victim, went on a hunger strike immediately and lasted for 33 days, losing over 30 pounds. They left my Mom alone with my then 2 Labs, no way to get groceries, living in a travel trailer in a campground, and alone on her 80th birthday. I wrote Judge Trauger, that if these were their tactics to make me drop my lawsuit, I’d drop it, as my Mother could and should not ever be left alone. Doctors have told me so. I was told my lawsuit was a seven figure lawsuit by many in the know, and I’ve talked to Senators and VIPs in LE and the Law who know. I wanted our and my Mother’s home back before she died, and all else we were made to lose, plus my medical and legal bills payed. That alone amounted to close to a million dollars. I was facing 17 years in prison for 11 months, while tending my Mother and dogs, properties, and going from hospital to hospital and doctor to doctor every day, while in constant intense pain. We lost it all…and I mean treasured lifelong items. It’s all on my mind constantly night and day. I suffer nightmares from the PTSD every night. I’m extremely angry, and feel as if my country has let me down. I feel there is truly no Constitution, no laws, and no Civil Rights. I’m not the person I used to be. I can’t remember the person I used to be. I was an athlete, an artist, a scholar, and a good person. I feel he died on 4/9/04. What’s left, I just have no idea, but I feel my days being now numbered. Truly. I just want to hang around long enough to help my Mother and my last Lab. Don’t know if I can. I would so very much like to live long enough to see Justice happen and restore my former beliefs in our system of Government, but I sometimes now think we were all brainwashed from childhood. And I was a Navy Vet and college Grad and majored in Psych and Crim and was a Counselor. Brent Horst, when we were on friendlier terms in the beginning told me I should have been an Attorney as he said I was the one to win my Criminal portion of my case. He was shocked at my understanding of the law and ability to comprehend and remember legal detail. I said from my experience, I would NOT want to be an Atty. although I had long ago contemplated that very thing, after getting my BA and visited some law schools. I did much of my research in the Vanderbilt Law school library. Having been obsessive as an athlete in multiple sports, I channeled that obsessiveness into my case and the law, consuming EVERYTHING!
Thanks for asking. Living day to day.
Hope you are well.
Citizen Wells??
Boots.
Yes?
I’ve seen Brent Horst’s web site and see how he’s come along his path, and I intend to contact him. Good night. You still want to hear the further truth of the matter?
Sincerely,
Boots
Boots.
I always want the truth.
Take care of yourself.
The rest of the truth will truly amaze you, I promise. And I will start presenting it tomorrow. This truth is backed with proof and evidence as was my truth of Sheriff Hall’s false…and fabricated governmental evidentiary documents as I have so proven beyond doubt to be nothing more than an attempt at a criminal conspiratorial cover-up to escape justice.
Njustice!
Can I trust you?
How can I know that?
I want to. I need to. And being I’m about as close to dying as ever in my life, and wanting my story of the travesty of injustice known, if not for my sake, at least for those innocent others after me, I can take no chances. But then, what choice do I have?
“There is no cueler tyranny than that which hides beneath the cloak of justice and behind the badge of law.”
Do I have your word as a man of true Justice?
I ALWAYS tell the truth, even to unwilling ears. I no longer have anything to lose.!! And my gun beckons me ever nearer, as no one wants to hear the truth!!