Captain Connie Rhodes, Fax, Letter to judge Clay D Land, September 18, 2009, Fake, Larry Sinclair, Sinclair investigation

Larry Sinclair, who happens to be a better investigative reporter than most in the MSM, has uncovered the fact that the letter, allegedly written by Captain Connie Rhodes and faxed from Office Max to the judge, was not faxed from the Office Max at that time.  Here is a copy of that alleged letter:

CaptainConnieRhodesWithdrawal

pdf of alleged letter

From Larry Sinclair

“In an effort to confirm the below letter I have contacted Ft. Benning. There is something that has come to my attention that supports my suspicions about this letter even more. If Capt. Connie Rhodes was being shipped out to Iraq yesterday, she would NOT have been allowed to leave base and go to a Columbus, GA OfficeMax to fax this letter. In fact one would think the letter would and could have been fax directly from the Army Base and placed in the mail at the same time right on base at Ft. Benning.

Interestingly enough the store video at the OfficeMax store where this document was faxed from will provide Judge Land and U.S. Marshalls clear proof as to who faxed this letter to the U.S. District Court Judge.”

Read more:

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2009/09/is-letter-to-us-district-court-judge.html

“I can now show without any doubt that the letter filed with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, claiming to be from U.S. Army Captain Connie M. Rhodes, M.D. is a FRAUD and FORGERY.

I am currently transcribing a short audio recording to post the along with the audio.”

Read more:

http://www.larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

I have listened to the audio.

Thanks to Larry Sinclair for doing this work.

527 responses to “Captain Connie Rhodes, Fax, Letter to judge Clay D Land, September 18, 2009, Fake, Larry Sinclair, Sinclair investigation

  1. Amazing! Larry Sinclair never seems to disappoint. Thanks Larry, and thanks CW for bringing this to light and posting this article!

  2. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ455.110

    For those sending info to Orly, this is the law which allows suits against the SOS for accepting office during the time she was senator and its salary was increased…

  3. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    CW,

    If Larry did file that complaint before Carter against Orly, he is quite a gentleman to debunk Rhodes letter…

    However I note that Rhodes might have been coerced to sign, and someone else took it over and faxed it…

    Still faxing it from Office Max, sounds suspicious…as if it was done to keep the Military’s hands clean…

    I would imagine though that in her own personal actions, she could not use military base equipment…

    What I don’t understand is why the Army store for military personell does not have a fax…why no one with a pc has a fax program…(maybe because they use secure phone lines)

    but I have heard that solderies going to Iraq have their own private cell phones and internet access…

    does not make sense…

  4. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    CW,

    Has larry investigated the signature…is it an exact copy of a sig. found in any filing in Rhodes vs. MacDonald? If so, adds to the credibility that it was forged…

  5. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    CW,

    I can’t download the PDF of Rhodes’ alleged letter…is that link correct, or is scrib down because of requests…?

  6. CNN,

    Just about every base over a certain size has a BX (basic exchange) or PX (post exchange). Every BX/PX I’ve ever been to has a print or copy shop, or a print shop is available nearby.

    Some installations even have a FEDEX/Kinkos on base.

  7. Where was the OfficeMax? Most military bases allow franchises so the store could have been on base.

  8. Another question is was she on lock down? Was she allowed to send any communications just before being deployed?

  9. CNN: I could be wrong [I frequently am], but I do not think Larry filed any complaint about Dr. Taitz with Judge Carter. Please read his disclaimer on his website.

  10. Patriot Dreamer

    Chris Wallace on the OReilly Factor:

    “… these guys, everything is personal. They are the biggest bunch of crybabies”

  11. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://www.officemax.com/storelocator/nearestStores.jsp?_DARGS=/storelocator/nearestStores.jsp.1_A&_DAV=&_dynSessConf=-7743959738528503269&sId=979

    is a map to the Office Max where the Rhodes letter should have come from, as it is the only one in that area code and city code

    I found that the phone number is unlisted…

  12. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Linda,

    His website does not seem to load on my browser…

    Can anyone tell me if he did file a complaint against Orly…I heard talk about it, I thought Lucas filed a complaint and Larry too…

    so many rumors, so little time….

  13. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Could it be that she printed out the letter and signed it, and had a friend take it to the Office Max?

    Still, the friend could have mailed a copy by surface mail…what’s a stamp cost compared to a fax…at office max a fax is probably at least a buck…

  14. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Paper+Shredding/S-GA/T-Columbus/

    OK I found that phone number…

    under COLUMBUS PAPER SHREDDING SERVICES

    that’s interesting…

    look up entry 7….it could be the same fax they used to sell fax service to their clients…

  15. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    OK…I’m way over the post limit….enough for now..

  16. This is an opening statement I copied from Larry Sinclair’s blog:

    Comments re-opened and moderated by Sinclair Publishing, Inc Team Members. There ARE 3 individuals who moderate and post under “Sinclair Publishing.” Mr. Sinclair posts under his name/account ONLY.
    I DO NOT WORK FOR NOR AM I INVOLVED WITH PHIL BERG NOR ORLY TAITZ OR THEIR CASES
    I have on repeated occaisions stated on this Blog that I am NOT associated with either Orly Taitz or Phil Berg. I have no association with either of these Attorneys cases and was surprised that Orly Taitz contacted me on September 2, 2009 regarding one of hers.

    I have been honest from day one in my intentions, and I have exposed the lies and misrepresentations of any an everyone that became known to me.

    I do not work for, nor am I providing any assistance to Phil Berg or anyone else. I have wished both Taitz and Berg well, while making it clear to both I did not and do not want to be involved in any of these cases.

    I will continue to stand on principle and will not become a party to anyone knowingly being dishonest while accusing Obama of the same thing they themselves are engaging in, no matter who it is.

    This is not about taking sides or working with anyone, IT IS about standing up for the TRUTH.

  17. #

    Linda from NY // September 19, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    CNN: I could be wrong [I frequently am], but I do not think Larry filed any complaint about Dr. Taitz with Judge Carter. Please read his disclaimer on his website.
    *******************************************

    Guys….Larry didn’t file anything….Rhodes didn’t send a fax…..and Lucas Smith didn’t do anything either…..the OBOTS are a out in force trying to discredit Orly anyway they can because they know their days are numbered and the house of cards is about to fall!!!

  18. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    JS,

    I am glad at that statement, but I have seen so much, can you assure me these are all bogus? at least the Lucas and the Sinclair?—-

  19. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    This Rhodes letter has some problems with it…

    1) First it states that she saw the news the night before; the letter is faxed at 1 pM the next day…that’s enough time to Call Orly in CA which is 3 hours behind, and since orly is up to usually past midnight, as I have read on her blog…Rhodes could have called even in the wee hours of the morning…

    2) This time lapse seems to allow for her taking counsel from someone, not her lawyer, if in fact she did write it…

    3) If she did not write it, then divulging when she actually shipped out might be violation of classified information on troop deployments, in war time…

    4) She disses the original filign as full of political conjecture….no plaintiff would say that…

    5) the final statement about filing a complaint to the CA bar could not have been made by a MD…if she did make it a lawyer or the clerk at Land’s court suggested it…and that is unethical…

  20. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    5) …considering the personal dispute going on by Land against Orly…

    turing a plaintiff against her counsel has to be grounds for being disbarred when you are a court official no? –where’s the impartiality of the courts…

  21. Jacqlyn,
    Can we count on this for sure (just say “yes”)?

    Larry didn’t file a complaint against Orly.
    Rhodes didn’t FAX a complaint
    and Lucas didn’t do anything against Orly either

    ==========
    I am sick of all the garbage that ACORN or
    whoever is putting out against Orly.

  22. I’m confused …. In Larry’s newest post he comments that he knows one person who has a wall of fax machines but says they can’t be that stupid. Then he goes on to suggest the letter may have come out of California.

    Who and why … in California ?

    Any ideas?

  23. OT, sorry, but it just carries forward the discussion about the usurper bucking for “President of the Universe” from the other post…..

    Another and more concise perspective about the Usurper’s intention to preside over the Security Council

    http://www.conservativeoutcry.com/content/obama-resigns-president-united-states

  24. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/rhodes-letter-a-forgery/

    Charlton’s been reading Sinclair blog too..

    the word is out…

  25. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Val, I didn’t see anything about it coming out of California on Larry’s page. Where is it?

  26. Larry Sinclair and I began discussing the alleged letter/fax yesterday.
    It did not smell right to me from the beginning.
    *** Request ***
    Does anyone out there have a copy of the notorized letter from Capt Rhodes
    regarding her comments about being initially kept from appearing in court?
    I have tried to access it on Orly’s and other sites.

  27. #

    maddie // September 19, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    Jacqlyn,
    Can we count on this for sure (just say “yes”)?

    Larry didn’t file a complaint against Orly.
    Rhodes didn’t FAX a complaint
    and Lucas didn’t do anything against Orly either

    ==========
    I am sick of all the garbage that ACORN or
    whoever is putting out against Orly.
    *****************************************

    Maddie…and others…..Let’s just say it is common sense…..Larry doesn’t have anything in his blog about filing anything against Orly….now whether or not he had a falling out with her….you would have to ask him…..I think he did say she wanted him to repeat untruths that others had told her….that is what I saw and Larry wouldn’t do it!! The Lucas Smith thing and the Connie Rhodes fax is just stupid….these people already knew about Orly’s failings and still wanted to sign on with her….now they don’t….come on…..THE OBOTS are trying to destroy Orly….plain and simple….she has posted on her internet the lies about her and her family…..she doesn’t have time to go around and police every blog…..help her out by denying such BullCrap!!

  28. #

    citizenwells // September 19, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Larry Sinclair and I began discussing the alleged letter/fax yesterday.
    It did not smell right to me from the beginning.
    *** Request ***
    Does anyone out there have a copy of the notorized letter from Capt Rhodes
    regarding her comments about being initially kept from appearing in court?
    I have tried to access it on Orly’s and other sites.
    ************************************

    I will see if I can find it!

  29. Patriot Dreamer

    I have never seen an Office Max, Office Depot, or Staples on an Army post ever. Not to say that Fort Benning doesn’t have one or can’t have one, just that I think it’s highly unlikely. If Captain Rhodes truly wrote that letter, I would make a Coke bet that anyone there at Fort Benning in her chain of command or at their JAG office would fax it for her – at the government’s expense. I call B.S. on this letter.

  30. Jacqlyn,
    You don’t have to convince me. I’m been in Orly’s corner from the beginning. I’m just
    sick of the lies swirling around about the
    good guys/gals! Thanks.

  31. Larry Sinclair’s second book that he has published is great. Go Tell Aunt Rhody: Southern Murder X 2 by Thornton Parsons.
    Very well written. You can order it from Barnes and Noble or Amazon.com

  32. CW….This is at Obamafile.com…..the notarized letter was there….but it is not letting me access it…..see it you can get it here….when I click on notarized letter it says page not found!! Kind of curious as it was there before!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Captain Rhodes Hearing — Outrageous Update

    The Count Us Out blog reports that a U.S. District Court hearing, scheduled for Friday in Georgia, has been rescheduled for Monday.

    Capt. Connie Rhodes is fighting deployment to Afghanistan until Barack Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of POTUS is established. Dr. Orly Taitz filed the complaint last week and Judge Clay Land granted an emergency hearing Friday afternoon in the Columbus federal courthouse.

    Rhodes, a medical doctor who was with her unit in Fort Riley, Kan., did not attend the hearing because she was ordered by her commanding officer not to leave Kansas. That prompted Land to reschedule it for noon Monday. Rhodes was scheduled to arrive at Fort Benning today and deploy within seven days.

    Rhodes’ attorney Orly Taitz was in Land’s court.

    Update: Dr. Orly Taitz, “We had a hearing on 11th. Defendants (that’s Obama and others) were represented by 3 attorneys: a US attorney, a Pentagon attorney and a Fort Benning attorney. They claimed that my client, flight surgeon Cpt. Rhodes, MD, didn’t show up for no reason, she just didn’t feel like coming.”

    “I presented to the judge a notarized statement, showing that Col. Jeffrey Johnson, her commander from Fort Riley, KS, has forbidden Connie from leaving Fort Riley a day early and she was threatened that if she does, she will be court-martialed and can be thrown into military prison. In this fashion the government prevented Connie from being at her own hearing and 5 minutes before the hearing they served me with the motion to dismiss.”

    “Judge Land did not appreciate this strong hand tactic of the government and he ordered the government to make sure Connie is able to leave the base to be at her hearing, which was scheduled for Monday at 12 noon. This time it is their responsibility to do whatever is necessary for Connie to be in court.”

  33. CW….I found the notarized letter at Orly’s site here is the place to get it…click below…

  34. Heard on the news that Obama won’t interview
    with Chris Wallace. bho must be afraid.
    Everyone interviews with Wallace.

  35. Jacqlyn Smith wrote:

    “The Lucas Smith thing and the Connie Rhodes fax is just stupid….these people already knew about Orly’s failings and still wanted to sign on with her….now they don’t….come on…..THE OBOTS are trying to destroy Orly….plain and simple….”

    I believed in Lucas at the beginning. Then came the attempt to undermine Orly when he didn’t have to. Of course, I wondered what his deal was then.

    As a preface to what’s below: I do pray for this country oftentimes before I go to sleep, or if I wake up in the middle of the night, along with praying for my family and others. I ask God for guidance, and even ask for Obama to resign and ask his followers to not get violent, if that’s God’s will.

    Anyhoo, a couple of nights ago I had a dream that Lucas Smith jumped on all fours in front of my kitchen sink, looking to get something.

    I’m not an expert at dream interpretation, and I’ve really only started to pay closer attention to my dreams, after a long hiatus, in the last few months. But I took this dream to mean that Lucas Smith is wild, or maybe impulsive, something along those lines. Also, he is trying to get something for himself.

    The term “everything but the kitchen sink” comes to mind. To me, this dream says that Lucas Smith wants not only everything (unreasonable), but the kitchen sink, too!

    I don’t know if this means anything, but I thought it would be fun to share :-). Hey, any port in a storm, and we’re in a mighty big storm!

  36. Maddie, Awww, they’re all upset that Wallace called them cry babies…and they just proved him correct! Like Beck says “cry me a river!”

  37. Wonder what the Polish and Czech people
    think of the POTUS when he won’t follow
    through with the proposed Missile Defense
    Shield (and on the anniversary of the invasion
    of their country). This is another disgusting
    event.

  38. oh, Ticktock, didn’t know Wallace called them
    “cry babies”–he got that right! too bad. They made their beds and you know the rest…..

  39. Alex // September 19, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith wrote:

    “The Lucas Smith thing and the Connie Rhodes fax is just stupid….these people already knew about Orly’s failings and still wanted to sign on with her….now they don’t….come on…..THE OBOTS are trying to destroy Orly….plain and simple….”

    I believed in Lucas at the beginning. Then came the attempt to undermine Orly when he didn’t have to. Of course, I wondered what his deal was then.
    ******************************************

    Alex….I believe as you do that this Lucas Smith character is a wild one…..however to sign an affidavit swearing to his statements being the truth and he would perjure himself if false….this means jail time….think about it…Obama is not worth going to jail over!

  40. Alex,
    I ask God for guidance, and even ask for Obama to resign and ask his followers to not get violent, if that’s God’s will
    ++++++++++
    I do think there is a possibility of Obama
    running away —-look how he ran out of DC
    during the huge 1.7 million people Teaparty
    Rally.
    Then, look how many times he’d rather be
    overseas rather than in DC.
    Maybe on one of those out-of-country trips
    he’ll just really run away. What do you think?

  41. #

    maddie // September 19, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Wonder what the Polish and Czech people
    think of the POTUS when he won’t follow
    through with the proposed Missile Defense
    Shield (and on the anniversary of the invasion
    of their country). This is another disgusting
    event.
    *****************************************

    Maddie…I heard HRC tried to call the Polish and Czech ambassadors and they refused her phone calls!!!

  42. CW here it is on you tube hope this helps

    found on

  43. the notarized letter orly reads above you tube

  44. CW I found it on link

  45. What about the museum building in Obama
    Sr’s hometown. The villagers want one and
    it doesn’t cost much (small & hut style).
    The first agreement is the Kenyan BC to
    start of the historical nature of the Obama
    museum. We do our part after the BC is
    obtained. I’ve mentioned this previously,
    but didn’t get many opinions. What do you
    all think?
    or
    Plan #2: We contribute to bo’s half brother
    who lives on pennies in a hut and has not
    rec’d help from his POTUS usurper brother.
    We interview him from a historical POV about
    his brother, etc.

  46. Maddie, Scroll up about 20 posts and Patriot Dreamer posted the Chris Wallace video. And to really make it rich, he was talking to the great bloviator, O’reilly! Wallace didn’t just call THEM cry babies, he called THEM the biggest bunch of cry babies!! LOL! It takes no time flat to know he KNOWS that O is the biggest cry baby of all!

  47. Jacqlyn,
    That is not good news for the Czechs and Poles.
    We know people who fled from this location, and I can’t even start to think of having their
    history repeat itself!

    It seems like all our “enemies” Obama has
    called “friends” and all our “allies” are
    now our “enemies” —that is ONLY in the
    eyes of the pp IDIOT!

  48. The case is Rodearmel v. Clinton, et al. The hearing is Wednesday at 9:30 AM in DC. The case is about the US Constitution Article I Section 6.

    http://www.JudicialWatch.com for more details.

  49. OT, but for any of you that ride, you might be interested in this:

    http://patriotguard.org/Home/tabid/53/Default.aspx

    I just witnessed them in action a few days ago in my small town. Very moving…a great way to honor a vet. Please take a look. TY

  50. Jacqlyn,

    How’s the Judicial Watch’s suit against Obama
    doing? They have filed one, right?

  51. Ticktock,
    I saw the video—glad Wallace has come out
    with his opinion—time that our “media”
    speaks the truth!

  52. TE @ 3:37,

    Larry makes that comment in the comment section of the post : WRBL – Tv ….

    Larry @ 2:31

    ( he says the document wasn’t even sent from Ga … he ( Larry ) bets it came from California.)

    Larry has his pots, comments, etc… copy righted so I don’t want to copy and paste … go check it out.

    So again, Who and Why would anyone from California send that forged letter to the Judge?????

  53. maddie,

    I listened to an interview today about the Polish shield. Seems Obama ditched Bush’s plan. He gave up the location (dry land) of the shield in favor of HIS plan. They will be a different type of missile and more of them at sea – courtesy of the Navy. More to this story, but that’s the gist of it.

    What is most disconcerting is the fact of a leaked report demanding 40,000 additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan. Meanwhile Italy and Britain are making plans to pull troops out. Since taking office, Obama has had a 300% surge in troops in HIS war there. And for what?!

  54. On Lucas Smith youtube video – he has updated in the comment section. Go to video and click on “inspectorSmith” to the right of the video and scroll down to read. He is asking people to call Orly and ask her what’s going on. he lists her phone numbers in his comments. ????????

    http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith

  55. Actually, the link I just posted above – takes you right to the comment page.

  56. cq.
    error 404 – not found

  57. Thanks Jacqlyn

  58. The distorted truth movement,everything bho and company do is to stop the facts from coming out. its classic bill clinton play book. keep lying

  59. JustMe—
    A good article. The first paragraph is especially
    potent and very worrisome:

    The new plan that President Obama laid out for a missile shield against Iran on Thursday turns Ronald Reagan’s vision of a Star Wars system on its head: Rather than focusing first on protecting the continental United States, it shifts the immediate effort to defending Europe and the Middle East.

  60. JustMe—What is pp’s reasoning for upping
    the troup level in Afghanistan in HIS war as
    you correctly said? I have no clue unless
    he thinks it takes a 300% increase to get
    Bin Laden.

  61. Today I met 3 Africans from Eastern Africa.
    I wanted to ask them if Obama was born there.
    I will be encountering them again.
    Their native language is French, and I will
    be communicating again in translation.
    Any suggestions as to questions for the cause?

  62. First, my Affidavit as I stated on the Blog was filed with the US District Court for the Central District of California.

    Second, Lucas Smith has sent me message via YouTube mail stating Orly Taitz did the same with him and more.

    Third, I did not investigate this letter out of anything other than noticing it looked as if the signature had been “cut and Paste” into the document.

    Fourth, everyone who seeks the truth should be telling the truth at the same time. Obama cannot be accused of hiding something and lying if those accusing him are doing so with lies and fake documents.

    Finally, it was only after contacting the Duty officer at Ft Benning and the Columbus GA OfficeMax store did I suspect this “Rhodes letter” was not really faxed from the store.

    WRBL-TV and U.S. DISTRICT COURT MIDDLE DISTRICT OF GEORGIA VICTIMS OF FRAUD: Proof “Capt. Rhodes Letter a Fraud”

    This explains the entire process.

  63. All-my new copy of Time came today the one with Glenn Beck on the cover. I just glanced at it before Mass, “Birther Movement Fringe right wing groups contend that Barack Obama was not born on American soil and therefore cannot legally be president” there goes that subscription. Yet another Media outlet that knows nothing about the Constitution. NBC dad born in Kenya morons-so stupid, so frustrating.
    Anyway Mass was very upsetting, so I am going to mention this to all the good people I know on this web-site. I live in Palm Beach County, theoritically one of the richest counties in the nation-or used to be???
    Due to years of abuse by our government some of our brethren- WE THE PEOPLE are in dire straights. The lines at the food pantries are much longer, people who have never been out of work, electricity and water turned off, losing their houses, well dressed people living in their cars, cars repossessed etc.
    Some folks are not sending their children to school due to the children do not have decent clothing. This is pretty much the gist of what was announced at church. I’m ill.
    What can you do-I’m sure every town, county, village in America has the same problem, even a dollar would help-if you have children who have outgrown their clothes I’m sure someone could use them. I guess you could contact your local priest, rabbi, minister I’m sure that they are all hearing the same thing.
    This is why I get furious with ACORN, SEIU and others when they waste and defraud the government it comes out of somewhere else, in this case these folks who are in dire straights.
    Prayers will help too. May God protect these folks from this corrupt government I don’t even want to go into Michelle Obama’s theatrics with blowing through the taxpayers money.
    L’shana tovah tikatev v’etahetem
    Rosh HaShanah (ראש השנה) is the Jewish New Year 5770 may it be a fortunate year for Dr Orly and our Jewish friends and our Judeo-Christian nation.

  64. Re: “I listened to an interview today about the Polish shield. Seems Obama ditched Bush’s plan. He gave up the location (dry land) of the shield in favor of HIS plan. They will be a different type of missile and more of them at sea – courtesy of the Navy.”

    That is so Obama can pull them out at a moments notice.

  65. Hi, Larry, you’ve been quite busy today. Your blog is very impressive, especially the comments. Give the Obots enough rope to hang themselves, and they will. Hat’s off to you, my friend.

  66. Larry —

    Some of us DOUBT L. Smith’s methods, motives, and product.

    Chiefly for this reason — when expanded and then compared to standard paper sizes, his Kenyan BC conforms almost exactly to standard letter size paper — and not A4, which we believe that we ought to see — but, we also know this is not a fatal flaw, but it is one that raises DOUBTS;

    Also, the name of the Supervisor of Obstetrics (John Kwame Odongo) cannot be found on any available registry of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, British Medical Society, Kenya Branch ( — but, we know that this is not a fatal flaw, either, because bound copies of the East African Medical Journal appear not to be available in United States libraries prior to 1972 (where the registry apparentty is found) — still, an Obstetrician is an awfully IMPORTANT physician not to appear ANYWHERE in the available records. That too raises DOUBTS about what L. Smith has made public.

    Lastly, in almost all of the documents we have seen used for newborn identification prints are made of both feet — left and right — and not one footprint only. The fact that there is only one footprint raises DOUBTS about what L. Smith has made public.

    Why do I bring this up now? It is my guess that L. Smith has every reason to take a hike, once discovery is awarded, and he appears to be setting the stage exactly for that eventuality.

    However, I’ve also noticed from time to time that when the attacks from the ‘other side’ reach a fever-pitch (as they have very recently) — it’s because ‘our side’ has hit pay-dirt!

  67. Michelle–I was also to Saturday night Mass. Prayers of the Faithful included one for our country, our government, etc, that was a little differently, and more specifically written than previous. Made me take notice…but I couldn’t quote it for you now. Very interesting.

  68. Anyone see the the new bright star in the sky since last oct? The starry hosts God calls each of them by name. there’s million of stars!! Wow! Jesus said’ When the son of man returns will he find faith. Time to grab you bible and be ready because the time is short.

  69. That is so Obama can pull them out at a moments notice
    Robert— you mean obama pulling the missiles
    out immediately (not the Polish people, right?)
    thanks. Maddie.

  70. From July 24th…Does what happened in Cuba sound familiar?

  71. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    Michelle – Also, I appreciate your compliment on my post. Thank you. My heart was in it!

    C.N.N. — Ditto on your words about arresting traitors for treason. (Back on the other thread).

    “. . . . if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask …” I am agreeing fervently with you on that one — specifically that the military, tasked with defending us from domestic enemies, gets an electrifyingly energizing dose of Constitution-itis, marches up to o, reads him the arrest warrant for crimes against the American people, shackles his hands and feet, and escorts him to maximum security military prison — then proceeds to do likewise with all the other traitors in high places!!! Aaaahhh! Dream on. . . Of should I say, Pray on!!

    Maddie – “seems like all our “enemies“, o. has called “friends”. . .
    So true! My current working hypothesis is that the guy is a double ringer. In an “Unmask the Mysterious
    0-Man” Pool, I’d buy in for deep, deep cover arab terrorist, for starters. If true, what you are seeing makes total sense. Who knows? Whoever the guy is, at this point, all I want to see are huge headlines with the word, INCARCERATED stamped across his photo.

  72. Michelle,
    That is shocking information about Palm Beach
    in Florida (right?) You sure don’t think about
    Food Pantry lines there.

    +++++++++++
    Did you happen to read my thoughts about
    the two plans in Africa? What are your thoughts? the museum being the primary idea.

  73. CNDEVilleII— I’ll go for that “incarcerated”
    stamp ASAP! And, Arab Terrorist also
    makes sense to me.

  74. Humor Break–(Attn SueK):

  75. twe // September 19, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Great, twe, and there was no food/beverage festival :).

    Those were wonderful, but #6 made me ill; would *someone* please find an orthodontist for that woman? The Satan eyebrows can go, too…

    Ewww…….

  76. maddie-If the object is to tick off Obama and DNC you could contact the Kenyan supporters and say something to the effect: The Americans want to donate money for this museum but they like to know where they’re money is going and why? Where exactly was he born? Mombasa should we build it near the hospital, much like a shrine as in Messiah THE ONE, what design? etc.
    because you can’t take donations without a plan.
    His half-brother poor guy $10.00 he would think he is rich. You know what they say about camels, needles and heaven.
    I loved the Chris Wallace comment: they are whiny crybabies. Look at all the crap that was thrown at Hillary, Sarah and Orly-whether you agree with their politics or not-these girls are not whiners.
    Nancy on the other hand, miss fake tears, she ought to be a riot at her arrest. She knows she is caught, she and her faux president along with DNC, ACORN, SEIU. Once they get rid of the waste and fraud in Washington-the entire Obama administration and friends a/k/a enemies of the people-$2 trillion dollars or more saved or back to treasury. Yes I think they are they corrupt.

  77. Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill ?
    Posted August 30th, 2009 by celeste

    “Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as:

    “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

    In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

    http://waysandmeans.house

  78. Then, look how many times he’d rather be
    overseas rather than in DC.
    Maybe on one of those out-of-country trips
    he’ll just really run away. What do you think?

    Maddie, I do believe on this subject, you and I agree..he surely will find a way to not be brought back…….I mean after all, he got into the White House illegally……the crime of the century it may become known as.

  79. NewEnglandPatriot Submitted on 2009/09/19 at 12:26pm
    I think it’s because they’re afraid that, like so many of the other lawsuits, it won’t prevail. I believe Orly WILL prevail, but the media have been so scared of this crisis because they are mostly responsible for creating it.
    I think I could almost forgive the Media even at this late date, if they would come forward as a group and say We screwed up big time. We took Obama at his word and like a bunch of fools we believed him. We discounted legitimate investigations as spurious attacks by the opposition party again we were wrong.
    To me their biggest error is allowing this to fester, the truth is leaking out very slowly but it leaking. At this late date it is better to go down as ignoramuses than traitors.

  80. SueK–I must be losing my touch! Oh, well.

  81. twe // September 19, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    Nope, twe, you’re not! If you’d caught me 20 minutes earlier, suppah would’ve been all over the place.

    Thank goodness for plastic rug protectors and big girl bibs 🙂

    Thanks for the goodie!

  82. cq, waysandmeans.house.. didn’t open. Any idea what I should try?

  83. Greetings everyone,

    I definitely think this is the hateful Obots that is doing this to Orly. This is a setup!

  84. To cq:

    cq // September 19, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill ?
    Posted August 30th, 2009 by celeste

    “Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as:

    “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

    In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

    http://waysandmeans.house…
    ————————————–
    cq and all:

    Look at disturbing info on page 4 and 5. Look at the diagram where VeriChip and RFID are layered into a vaccine:

    Click to access Virus%20Sensor%20White%20Paper.pdf

    Company Website:

    http://www.receptorsllc.com/

  85. SueK–Given the #6 reason on the list of top ten reasons why O isn’t the anti-Christ, oh no! I just realized who it is:

    Pats#12 Boy did he have us fooled!!

  86. Re: the microchipping in the health scare bill–the government probably wants to tag us for migratory purposes.

  87. Look at this from Drudge, which is titled when you pull the article up:
    “Swine flu ‘could kill millions unless rich nations give £900m’

    UN report says pandemic may result in anarchy unless western world pays for antiviral drugs and vaccines”

    Here’s the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/20/swine-flu-costs-un-report

  88. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/rappaport-dismisses-sentinel-editorial-as-inaccurate/

    NH Rep. Rappaport speaks out against errors in Sentinel Editorial, which had implied he or Gardner had lied about the investigation…clarifies the facts …

  89. Don’t know how true this is, maybe some of the “researchers” here can check it out.

    Drug Cartel exposed, creating, injecting, releasing, depopulating planet, with Pandemic H1N1 Swine Flu Virus.

    http://www.fluscam.com/Affidavit.html

  90. O has bought advertising on orly’s website.

  91. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Hey, Patriots…

    The Dems are threatening to Fact-Check every Republican who disses the Deathcare bill…

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27311.html

    Orly can cite that in her case, that Fact Check was understood by Dems as a political propaganda site…

  92. O also bought ad space on WND. It shows up under the second headline … it changes from one ad to another when you refresh the page. It’s from fightthesmears and next to it – Ads by Google.

    http://www.wnd.com/

  93. To:
    Margie // September 19, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    cq, waysandmeans.house.. didn’t open. Any idea what I should try?
    —————————
    I found this however I can’t get it to download.

    Click to access AAHCA09001xml.pdf

  94. DABIG // September 19, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Evening DABIG,

    Now, I can’t speak for this health care bill, but what I can tell you is that I know this company, Receptors.

    They’re working on a device that would identify pathogens and biothreats. It’s a novel testing system they’ve developed, and there’s really nothing sinister about them.

    As far as what’s contained in the health care bill, the tracking data is alarming however, the company Receptors is not. I read nothing about layering this technology in vaccines.

    This is a technology, nothing more. However, if they contract with the federal government in the future to produce a monitoring system for the population, that’s when we’ll need to perk up.

  95. twe // September 19, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    twe, that would be impossible!

  96. Check this out…is there a musical or block$$$$buster ahead? Orly the flock shooter
    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/09/orly-taitz-flock-shootin.html

  97. Police and Military Train To Intern Swine Flu Vaccine “Refusniks”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15272

  98. LM // September 19, 2009 at 11:04 pm ‘

    Evening, LM,

    Thanks for the link, but I’m not buying it….

  99. Chandra,Dem .hack wants Taitz investigated by CA. bar:
    http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/09/former_cleveland_law_director.html
    EVERYONE POST A COMMENT…..

  100. SueK–10:54–well, his wife is a supermodel!!
    Just trying to be humorous. Joking, joking, joking!!

  101. Obama adm. working hard to trash traditional marriage….
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110234

  102. carmen-re: Obama buying ad space on Orly and WND. It can be certified now that the White House is an insane asylum.

  103. Michelle,

    What do you think cost more … the Ad … or the $15 for a copy of his BC ? Hmmmm?

    Desperate?

  104. SueK-re: Medical advances. I want to see 60 minutes tomorrow. Dean Kamen has been inventing again-he has a new advanced prostethic hand-
    The Luke Arm, named after the bionic hand sported by Luke Skywalker in the Star Wars movies, weight no more than a human arm and boasts the same range of motion and tactile sensitivity.
    Kamen and his team at DEKA, began research into the project after meeting with a Department of Defense official in 2005.
    The DoD were looking for a new type of prosthetic arm that met strict requirements. The checklist demanded prosthetic arm: fully articulate, with an opposable thumb and fine motor control, small, lightweight and completely self-contained.
    After two years in development, Kamen and his team completed a prototype to show patients at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
    Project manager Stewart Coulter, said:
    http://www.dekaresearch.com/founder.shtml – Cached – Similar
    For our soldiers this would be so wonderful.

  105. Val 1121–desperate…are you kidding? They are tubing, fingernails scratching the edges as they plummet down the abyss…but fewer and fewer people can hear them cry out…or is it cry?? bho-hoo, help I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!

    …no matter, for their ilk the ends justify the means…only now it’s too little too late as things must really be closing in on the inevitable…

    …go Orly, et al!

  106. #

    Larry Sinclair // September 19, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    First, my Affidavit as I stated on the Blog was filed with the US District Court for the Central District of California.

    Second, Lucas Smith has sent me message via YouTube mail stating Orly Taitz did the same with him and more.

    Third, I did not investigate this letter out of anything other than noticing it looked as if the signature had been “cut and Paste” into the document.

    Fourth, everyone who seeks the truth should be telling the truth at the same time. Obama cannot be accused of hiding something and lying if those accusing him are doing so with lies and fake documents.

    Finally, it was only after contacting the Duty officer at Ft Benning and the Columbus GA OfficeMax store did I suspect this “Rhodes letter” was not really faxed from the store.

    WRBL-TV and U.S. DISTRICT COURT MIDDLE DISTRICT OF GEORGIA VICTIMS OF FRAUD: Proof “Capt. Rhodes Letter a Fraud”

    This explains the entire process.
    ******************************************

    Larry…Are you saying the BC that Lucas Smith has is not the truth??? Why would he file and affidavit if it wasn’t true??? Just wondering if you know the answer to these questions??

  107. Val-Good one Val. Duh Obama $15.00 for something that every American except you has to provide for the most simple basic dealings in our country and you Mr. Messianic know it all-can’t come up with this document, and we are all supposed to act stupid and act like it doesn’t matter. Hello Constitutionally speaking it does.
    Mr. just pretend president who secretly wants to be a talk show host since he never gets off TV. He’s boring.

  108. which way are you going? great song by jim croce. one hand on the bible and one hand on the gun. you say you love the baby but crucifiy the man. words once honored have turned to dust. you walk the steets of righteousness but refuse to understand.

  109. To SueK
    // September 19, 2009 at 10:53 pm
    ____________
    Hi SueK,
    Thanks for the reply.
    (The layering I was referring to was in the picture diagram)
    And yes, they will need to be watched.
    Have a good one.

    DABIGRAU

  110. Michelle // September 19, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Hi Michells,

    Sounds wonderful and yes, especially for our service people who are now compromised.

    A full report on the program, please?

    (Hope someone doesn’t turn this into a conspiracy theory, if ya know what I mean!)

  111. Sorry, ‘Michelle!’ Can’t type tonight and the ‘s’ is too close to the ‘e.’ My bad.

  112. twe // September 19, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    He is, too, twe!

  113. Linda from NY-I love Thomas Sowell he is such a good writer and he gave me a good idea.
    When we get a normal government again meaning Obama and fellow treasonous idiots are in the slammer where they belong.
    “Politicians have driven privately owned municipal transit systems out of business in many cities, by simply imposing costs and restricting the fare increases needed to cover those costs.”
    To balance the federal books, sell everything that the government should have never gotten their hands on. Gov’t gets much needed revenue, people who can run it properly, employ people and make a profit etc.

  114. I think Orly needs to leave Sinclair and Smith out of her lawsuit as they seem to have turned against her and are trying to ruin any chances of discovery in the Obama vs Barnett case. I’m not sure why Larry is involved anyway….what does he have to do with the FRAUD in our house being eligible….NOTHING that I can see! The credibility of both Lucas and Larry seems to be highly questionable by many because of their previous involvements with the law…..I don’t see any reason to involve either….especially Larry! Lucas is another story because of the Kenyan BC….Orly only needs to subpoena him and get him to tell the truth about this whole mess!!

  115. Someone posted this at Orly’s site>>>>

    $50,000 to anybody in the media who can answer this one simple question about Obama…

    http://greggjackson.com/blog/?p=400

    The vast majority of the leftist mainstream and alternative “conservative” media have repeatedly called any American who has demanded that Barack Hussein Obama release his supposed Hawaiian birth certificate to prove he is a natural-born citizen, as is required under the United States Constitution, a fringe-kook-conspiracy-theorist-wing-nut.

    So here is my question with $50,000 cash to anybody in the media who can answer the following 3 part question:

    1. What hospital in Hawaii was Barack Hussein Obama born in?

    2. Who was the attending physician who delivered BHO?

    3. What time was BHO born?

    Any 12 year-old signing up for Little League baseball would have to provide this information which appears ON THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Yet not one person in the entire media has been able to provide the answers to the very simple 3-part question I have posed above.

    $50,000 cold hard cash to anybody in the media who can show me the actual authenticated long-form birth certificate which answers the above questions.

    So far NOBODY in the media (MSM and conservative) has.

    And until they do, there is no doubt in my mind, we have a foreign-born usurper in the White House.

    And that means we, my friends, are living under TYRANNY…

    If you are with the media you can post the actual birth-certificate that provides the information I, and millions of others who still believe in the rule of law, have a RIGHT to see please post it here: http://greggjackson.com/blog/?p=400

  116. SueK-I saw the blurbs for it you can google Dean Kamen-the prosthetic hand they showed on TV can pick up a penny. Scott Pelley is going to be the reporter. I think on the blurb a real person is wearing the device Scott went WOW. It is something. If you are not familiar with Dean Kamen what did I just see —-
    Dean Kamen was born in Rockville Centre, New York in 1951. He attended the Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Massachusetts but dropped out before graduating. He is the founder of the robotics organization FIRST (For Inspiration of Science and Technology), which promotes robotics in high schools across the country. In 1986, he founded Science Enrichment Encounters (SEE), an interactive learning center located in the Amoskeag Millyard in Manchester, NH. He also owns DEKA, a company whose mission is to “foster innovation” and employs over 200 engineers, technicians and support staff. He holds 150 patents mostly medical related.

  117. DABIG // September 19, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Yes, DABIG, and I agree. There are many tech companies out there working on a lot of ‘new age’ stuff, but that doesn’t mean that the gub’mint is turning them into evil entities; it all just bears watching.

    Right now, there’s a system in place throughout the U.S. administered by one of the government agencies to ‘sniff’ the air for biohazards. This is particularly useful for a bioterror attack as the results are in near real-time. This program has been going on for quite a few years and did pick up something in TX in 2006, I believe. (It was something inherent down there, and not a big deal, but it was indeed caught).

    When I read about Receptors’ technology a while back, I thought it’d be much more useful than what we have now. I’ve put out a shout to someone in the know, so we’ll see if anything comes of it.

    I guess my bottom line is to observe without being accusatory…we have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes, but I think we can agree that we need to keep our radar on.

    G’night!

  118. Michelle: In the hands of the people who have a stake in the business, the business thrives. In the hands of the government, the business is doomed. In this article, the author describes exactly what the pp was programmed to believe.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/defining_obama_1.html

    This is how capitalism turns into communism and how they redistribute wealth. Is this what the “powers that be” have planned?

  119. Linda from NY
    Obama ‘appointed by God’,Obama is the Messiah, Obama is the one. I want to go on record here Obama is insane and so is Jeremy Levitt..
    and I want to see proof —for instance a letter written by God that states this fact otherwise I might think they’re just making it up.

  120. Michelle // September 20, 2009 at 12:09 am

    He sounds like a smart cookie, Michelle!

    I find that in science and engineering, some of the most brilliant people either didn’t bother with furthering their education, or dropped out. This is more than likely because they were so far out of the mainstream, they were isolated and called ‘nutty,’ but for people like them there’s a gift there that education can’t touch.

    Should be interesting-will try to catch it myself.

  121. Jacqlyn Smith-Good work Mr. Jackson they either come up with it or shut up.

  122. Michelle: I seriously doubt God had anything to do with choosing this ‘evil’ usurper. If only good comes from God, how could someone who undermines all that is good be chosen by Him?
    Insane…sure is!

  123. Michelle: Guess they have thus far elected to “shut up” since no one has taken Mr. Jackson up on his offer…lol They all know it is not good for their health to oppose the pp.

  124. To Michelle // September 19, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    carmen-re: Obama buying ad space on Orly and WND. It can be certified now that the White House is an insane asylum.
    ———————-
    Think about it though, the obots frequent those sites more than his.
    Might be quite astute of them.
    😉

    DABIGRAGU

  125. Linda from NY-Hitler’s idea of redistributing wealth. I never saw a person so lacking in knowledge of history (American) than Obama.
    World History (European also). He blindly follows ideologies, theories without thinking but the worst part is he picks ideologies that not only failed but caused the deaths of millions of people so that those at the top Hitler, SS could live these “magical lives”.
    Hitler’s policy of Lebensraum strongly emphasized the conquest of new lands in the East, known as Generalplan Ost, and the exploitation of these lands to provide cheap goods and labour to Germany. Even before the war, Nazi Germany maintained a supply of slave labour. This practice started from the early days of labour camps of “undesirables” (German: unzuverlässige Elemente), such as the homeless, homosexual, criminals, political dissidents, communists, Jews, and anyone whom the regime wanted out of the way. During World War II the Nazis operated several categories of Arbeitslager (labour camps) for different categories of inmates. Prisoners in Nazi labour camps were worked to death on short rations and in bad conditions, or killed if they became unable to work. Many died as a direct result of forced labour under the Nazis.

  126. Michelle: How true! My concern is his education, his associations, and his blatant disregard for anything that is American. Even though he has tried to keep his past secret, so much has been uncovered about him and documented in spite of his attempt to keep it hidden. In his own words, he has revealed himself. And yet, people still like him [?] or is that just something they would have us blindly believe. I don’t know about you, but I am looking forward to the celebration we will have when he is removed from office.

  127. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    Anything still going on about the Censure the Senseless idea? I love the concept. I believe Tea Party Patriots can accomplish anything ! Doesn’t the Declaration of Independence give us the authority to change the leadership when it needs changing . . . kind of like diapers?

    Just for fun.

    Plan for Censure of Clueless, Corrupt, and Culpable Leaders, by Seriously Incensed Citizens
    Grievances voiced x Unsat Evals delivered x
    Growth Goals stipulated x Tea Tossed / Grievances VOICED!!! x
    We-will-fire-you! messages sent x FIRE unresponsive unreps and serial oath-breakers

    The Perfect Storm – Patriot Style a tale of the times

    Awakening one morning, say tomorrow morning, the millions of 9/12 Tea Party Patriots, the home gang + the marchers, all, inexplicably and in-sync, experienced a genuinely spontaneous phenomenon, i.e. the exact same Flaring Light Bulb – Aha! Moment: “Time to seriously fire my unresponsive Unreps.”

    (Proving once again that extraordinary minds do cogitate concurrently.)

    Thus resolved , and with one accord, said set of achievers, well, over-achievers, well, in truth, extreme over-achievers (a given, based on raw, empirical data),

    working from the epic “you’ve been weighed in the balances and found wanting” theme,

    fashioned an exquisitely creative, and ever-more-gloriously-evolving public display . . .

    (which they affectionately dubbed with a multitude of titles and sub-titles, including, but not limited to, “The Resign NOW, Unrep! Campaign“ or “The ‘Oust the Out-to-Lunchers’ Outting.” )

    . . . of a true-blue, down-home, Oath-keeping, digging-in-the-heels, we-will-not-take-this-insanity-one-more-minute, in-your-faces-tyrants!, American Revolution-Based, patriot-style, pure 100% honey of a TANTRUM of a magnitude never before witnessed in the land.

    Wait. Check that. Correction. Once before witnessed in the land, (and around the world, come to think of it.)

    Combusting in a firestorm of spiraling fireworks and brilliant musket flashes, the intrepid RE-Establishment Insurgents for the Resurgence of Authentic Thought, Sensible Decision-making, Intelligible Speech, and the National Prioritization of LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness in Contemporary American Culture, (i.e. the RE-EIRAThSDmIS and NPofLLPHinCAC’ers)

    persistently planted their witty and pointed “You’re Fired/We Insist You Resign/Welcome to Your Involuntary Retirement Celebration. (wherein you retire and we celebrate)” Notices,

    throughout the land: in pressrooms and backrooms and courtrooms and cabinets and situation rooms and pentagon-shaped rooms and legislative chambers and commerce chambers, AND in the stately, not-quite-legal, oops, I mean, not-quite-regal, natural born, oops, I mean, national built (you know – for the American presidents) white house,

    persuasively prevailed upon every un-fired official, orator, commentator and oath-sworn personage in the land to promote supporting publicity,

    and

    perseveringly petitioned state legislators to lawfully enact the now -LEGALly-formatted Unrep Severance Notices, ingeniously crafted, by RE-EIRAThSDmIS and NPofLLPHinCAC’ers, to finalize the official retirement of the unreps.

    TA DA! CENSURE – Extreme Reality. Oh yee-aaahh! Tea Party Patriots get it DONE!!!

    Of course, resultant available seats are expeditiously filled by qualified patriots, the bottom-line, non-negotiable prerequisites being: a.) they get it, and b.) they speak Advanced Constitution-ese.

    Thus the Perfect Storm, hued in red, white, and blue, reigned upon the land,

    drumming out the faux, the clueless, the culpable and the corrupt,

    cleansing away the ugly, putrid stench of tyranny,

    allowing our Inalienable Right to flower once again.

    LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS.

    Amen and Amen.

    Yes, dear Patriots. This story is a true account, historical nonfiction, just waiting to be written into the official record.

  128. Re: dire economical situations some of you are talking about….

    Here where I live, people who’ve played by the rules their whole lives are losing houses and taking desperate measures to survive. Families co-existing is happening more and more.

    But this has been O and the Obots plan from the beginning. Take everyone down and build them back up to Obama’s and his ilks liking. That’s what Fascism and Communism is all about.

    I say it just means we all need to fight harder and refuse to stay on the plantation we’ve been placed on!! If he takes all our resources from us and gives them to people and nations he doesn’t feel we’ve been generous to, or feel are more deserving than we are(you don’t even want to get me going on that as I’ve always considered Americans to be a most giving and caring nation)then eventually the money runs out, and meanwhile nations are suffering at the very hand of the one who “feeds” them. It’s a no win situation for anyone but the powerful. Cuz in a situation like that, if people lay down and give up then the only scenario left is slavery to the government.

  129. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/09/20/aides-obama-urged-paterson-reconsider-ny-gov-race/
    So here’s Obama meddling in another Senate race!!!
    And he’s Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee at the UN in DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION!!

    TO FRINGEMEDIA: WHY DO YOU WANT TO IMPOSE COMMUNISM ON AMERICA SO BADLY??

  130. sorry, it’s the UN SECURITY COUNCIL

    in any case it’s a foreign-state granted TITLE

  131. Jacqlyn wrote:

    “Jacqlyn Smith // September 19, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Alex // September 19, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith wrote:

    “The Lucas Smith thing and the Connie Rhodes fax is just stupid….these people already knew about Orly’s failings and still wanted to sign on with her….now they don’t….come on…..THE OBOTS are trying to destroy Orly….plain and simple….”

    I believed in Lucas at the beginning. Then came the attempt to undermine Orly when he didn’t have to. Of course, I wondered what his deal was then.
    ******************************************

    Alex….I believe as you do that this Lucas Smith character is a wild one…..however to sign an affidavit swearing to his statements being the truth and he would perjure himself if false….this means jail time….think about it…Obama is not worth going to jail over!”

    Oh, indeedy, Smith has done what needed to be done. And it doesn’t, maybe, even matter that he turned on a dime. We’ve got the goods! Whether the BC is legitimate or not – and I think it is – remains to be seen.

    And as far as Obama being worth going to jail over: I hate to say this, but apparently many, many, many people think that he is. Why, I have no idea. To me, he is not worth going ANYWHERE over – unless it’s to a Tea Party!

  132. Maddie wrote:

    “maddie // September 19, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Alex,
    I ask God for guidance, and even ask for Obama to resign and ask his followers to not get violent, if that’s God’s will
    ++++++++++
    I do think there is a possibility of Obama
    running away —-look how he ran out of DC
    during the huge 1.7 million people Teaparty
    Rally.
    Then, look how many times he’d rather be
    overseas rather than in DC.
    Maybe on one of those out-of-country trips
    he’ll just really run away. What do you think?”

    I think Obama is a creep and a bully. And you know how they are. If you actually confront them, they run away like a yappy dog with its tail between its legs (no offense to yappy dogs – I’d have one if I didn’t have two cats!;-).

    He’s so weak and such a fake, that Obama needs billions of dollars and the Main Stream Media to prop him up. Without those things, Barry would blow away in the wind.

  133. Val wrote:

    “Val // September 19, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    I’m confused …. In Larry’s newest post he comments that he knows one person who has a wall of fax machines but says they can’t be that stupid. Then he goes on to suggest the letter may have come out of California.

    Who and why … in California ?

    Any ideas?”

    Someone probably already posted this, but my guess is just money. It’s usually the last thing I think of but, with Obama, it should be the first. This slimy, scummy bunch of thugs just bribes or blackmails anyone and everyone. So they just probably paid someone to do it.

    I mean, think of many of the obots you’re familiar with. You can tell that a lot of them couldn’t give a rat’s @$$ about politics or this country. They’re not doing it for love of America, as Birthers/Patriots/Constitutionalists are. They’re doing it because they have no morals, no life, and, apparently, no money. Or they just want more.

    What the HELL is going on in this country?

  134. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I am concerned about the Lucas and Sinclair claims that Orly pressued them to file false affidavits…

    My concern is what actually happened, and how it is being represented.

    It is one thing to strongly argue a point, with someone whom you don not believe is telling the truth, to get them to make a statement, which you have good reason to believe is the truth…

    It is another thing to pressure someone to sign an affidavit to a statement which you both know is false…

    What are these men saying about Orly?

    Was it a divergence of views about many issues; an argument…or were there real ethical violations…

    I am inclined to believe there were no ethical violations in the strict sense, but that there was a forceful disagrement…

    Lucas seems to have wanted money; but I hope Sinclair knows how much damage his filing has done, and how it could possibly ruing the entire case against Obama…

  135. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    That “ruin” not “ruing”…

  136. Michelle, it is indeed very distressing to see the many that are in dire straits. Prayer is an excellent idea. I hope no one minds if I offer one now.

    Father, please accept our thanks for the many blessings you have bestowed upon us. We pray now for those who are having economic and emotional difficulties in our nation, and around the world. Please help these precious ones to be happy, healthy, helpful, and loving, according to Your will alone. We know that You know best, and will do what is right. Amen.

    Michell, you also wrote:

    “Michelle // September 19, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    All-my new copy of Time came today the one with Glenn Beck on the cover. I just glanced at it before Mass, “Birther Movement Fringe right wing groups contend that Barack Obama was not born on American soil and therefore cannot legally be president” there goes that subscription. Yet another Media outlet that knows nothing about the Constitution. NBC dad born in Kenya morons-so stupid, so frustrating.”

    Their apparent obtuseness is totally infuriating. But I think there’s some kind of saying about publicity, something like, “They can say what they want, as long as they spell our name right.”

    The point being that what we as Birthers right now need is to get the word out that Barack Hussein Obama is squatting in the White House, and he’s not even supposed to be there AT ALL. Having the info in Time magazine will spread that word, and there will be less personages saying, “Wha? I had no IDEA!” No excuses!

    And I think another saying applies here, which I’ll probably mangle, too: First they ridiculed us, then they did something, then they agreed with us, then we WON!! 🙂

  137. twe wrote:

    twe // September 19, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Humor Break–(Attn SueK):

    That’s hilarious! My fav was #3. 😉

  138. Michelle wrote:

    “Nancy on the other hand, miss fake tears, she ought to be a riot at her arrest. She knows she is caught, she and her faux president along with DNC, ACORN, SEIU. Once they get rid of the waste and fraud in Washington-the entire Obama administration and friends a/k/a enemies of the people-$2 trillion dollars or more saved or back to treasury. Yes I think they are they corrupt.”

    Nancy looked like a robot when she was putting on that “assasination” show. And reading your post made me think – and I don’t know if this is what you meant – that – and I’m going to yell here, so please excuse me – that THESE PEOPLE, EVERY FREAKIN’ MORON THAT HELPED INSTALL O-CRIMINAL INTO OFFICE OWES US $2 TRILLION, AND THEY SHOULD LITERALLY BE LIABLE!

    Rant off. For now.

  139. Happy Lord’s Day Everyone.

    My idea for a new Political Life Party.

    Christian Constitutionalist Coalition
    Reclaiming and Returning the Republic to it’s Christian Constitutional Conservative Founding.

    1- Limited Tiny Government Responsible to We The People, Obeying the Constitution.

    2- Individual Liberty, Civility and Charity.
    3- Personal & Family Responsibility (Take Care of your Own).
    4- Education – Family and Local with Choice. National Test.
    5- Conscientious Competitive Charitable Commerce & Employment.
    6- Educated Responsible Workers & Consumers (Buyer Beware).
    7- Justice- Equal for All Individuals – Lawsuits Loser Pays all Fees.
    8- Strong Military to Defend us and our Allies. Semi-Mandatory Basic Training.
    9- Foreign Policy – Clean Slate. Normally Neutral. Stand by Allies when in agreement. No Foreign unilateral
    involvement except when attacked or to protect our citizens or our interests & investments. No more wars
    of “choice”. When troops deployed: In to Win, no more fighting to appease. When attacked shot to kill.
    10- Domestic Policy & Economy – Low Taxes, Pro-Growth and Private Saving & Investing.
    11- Individual Responsibility and Equality with no preferences for any lifestyle, class, race, religion or profession. Special Protections only for Children, Disabled and Traditional Family (man, woman and biological or adopted children).
    12-Families First they are the sustainment of our society.

    Religion back in the Republic as it always was. Christ back in Christmas and Christmas back anywhere.

    Limit Federal & Local Gov’t and those that serve. No lifetime politicians. Not more than 20% of one profession. Private employment experience of at least 5 yrs before running for public office.

    Health Care: Leave it up to the individual, doctors, hospitals, private clinincs and insurance companies. Dentists, chiropractors, etc. do this well.Private solution for a private matter. Allow privates to set up clinics like Walmart, CVS, etc have done for minor health issues. Allow these clinic companies, Doctors, Hospitals and Insurance Cos to compete and have their own service plans at maybe $50-100/Month almost like dentists do. Have a different tier insurance for bigger health problems, which again any of the above can compete for. No gov’t health care except requiring doctors/hospitals to be responsible in a matter of life and death emergency care. All of the above could have their own charity plan to help those in true need.

    THIS IS JUST A START and my thoughts this morning as I lay in bed.
    Feedback Please and Happy Sunday. God Bless US.

  140. I read L. Smith’s unflattering description of Orly, and he simply confirms to me that he something of a country boy — and a little out of his league.

    What may have worked to his advantage in Kenya, is working against him in Orange County, CA.

    Many years ago I worked for a RE Broker whose father died in Hitler’s final solution, but whose mother survived, moving with her twin sons to Israel. Her two boys moved to Chicago, and sold insurance and real estate. Every word that L. Smith used about Orly could be used about the twin brothers I worked for — including the cars they drove, where they lived, and where they ate.

    Their attention span was that of a “little child,” and I was responsible to complete ALL of their paperwork for them. Their skill with paperwork was non-existent, and their English was also non-existent — I had to translate all their notes from Yiddish. They didn’t need English in Chicago!

    Yet, they raised money for Steven Spielberg’s early films, they bought and sold Loop office high rises.

    I just ran into one of them a few weeks ago — he’s now in his ’70s — and he just closed on a $100 million dollar apartment complex that he planned to fix up and sell to a major insurance company — in this economy!

    So, I am not too worried about what L. Smith has written about Orly!

    It’s just tat she lives in a different world from Iowa!

  141. Has it occurred to anyone on the ‘other side’ that most of the people who are arguing that Obama is a ‘usurper’ are attorneys?

    Duh?

  142. I just read where Huckabee scored tops in a straw poll…its the evangelicals again.They stuck us with McCain last time. We cannot let him use snake oil to get the nomination again. He was just like GRAMNESTY on immigration.We have to get people up on these globalist loser candidates.

  143. On another note.anyone notice what a propagandist machine PBS is? It filters through kids programming big time. I thought about writing a letter to them requesting propagandizing the tenth amendment while they are at it.

  144. Alex-Peter Francisco-All
    Sunday, September 20, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 31% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9 (see trends).
    TV on in background CBS just did a piece on 9/12 March. Intensity on the Right-is how they reported it. Interviewed a couple of politicians-
    I don’t think any of them are “getting it”. Same old, same old out of them.
    Peter lots of good ideas-have to study them, but a great beginning.
    I have no idea why our government in total thinks WE THE PEOPLE are after all these years are totally simple minded.
    This movement is not just conservatives not by a long shot. The corruption is Washington is beyond belief, it destroys everything and everyone who gets near it. The incompetence in Washington is a close to second.

  145. PRWH-PF: And, Happy Lord’s Day to you and to all!

    OT–vid on Illinois abortion mill:

  146. Magna Carta: I used to support PBS through my local affiliate until the 2008 Election Coverage. Their news coverage allowed for both points of view [unlike the 3 major networks], and I thought this was good until it appeared they were drowning out the view they did not support. Consequently, I have not watched TV since January of 2008. We canceled our newspaper due to its biased coverage as well.

  147. SueK–1109: Oh yeah, you’re right.

    Ok–So, maybe it’s Seal–he’s married to supermodel Heidi Klum!

  148. cq-

    If that article you linked to is true, we need to do something drastic! Whoa, that is truly frightening.

    http://theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Errant_Policy_Continues_to_Threaten_Market_Stability

  149. SueK–1109: Oh yeah, you’re right.

    Ok–So, maybe it’s Seal–he’s married to supermodel Heidi Klum! Nope, not him. He’s a singer.

  150. For about a year now, my gut has been telling me that my husband & I should take part of what is left of our retirement savings (which is quickly dwindling) & pay off our house. I think it may be time. That forecast is saying to take all money out of banks!

  151. twe: Thanks for sharing that video. It saddens me to even think this happens in our country, but there are many people who still pray the “Pro-Life Rosary daily for the unborn. That gives me hope. I continue to believe “the few will save the many.”

    God Bless…Linda

  152. Patriot Dreamer

    “Obama: Health insurance mandate no tax increase”
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090920/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_overhaul

    Obama said, “Right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase.”

    Bad analogy, BO. The difference is that the STATES are the ones mandating car insurance under the 10th amendment and their own state constitutions. States have traditionally had authority over matters of health and public safety (police, fire departments, etc.).

    How many other FEDERAL mandates do you all know of? Registering with the Selective Service when men reach a certain age is the only one that I can think of.

    Is it a tax increase? How could it be otherwise? All of the health care bills have a mandate that everyone MUST buy health insurance that is “acceptable” (as defined by the federal government, of course). If you do not, then you must pay a fine (tax) to the federal government on your federal income tax. How can it not be a tax increase?!

  153. Patriot Dreamer: Guess he believes his own lies. It is part of his “spin to win” philosophy methinks.

  154. Let it be known that O cannot be (phony) POTUS and chairman of UN security council. Contact your congress men and speak out on this direct violation of sect. 9 of our beloved Constitution. O will have to resign as POTUS if he takes this Chair. Call ACLJ 757-226-2489 and ask Jay Sekulow for his help. O will be humiliated and the UN will not have the final authority they have been waiting for. NO ,God did not do this to us O is on assignment from satan to steal to kill and to destroy.

  155. Len Horowitz Files Pandemic Charges with FBI in NYC

    To lawyers receiving this message, I welcome your comments on how to prepare clients and friends to defend against unconstitutional h1n1 legislation and acts, and any common effort we might begin in the US.

    Harold Burbank
    2008 CT Green Party candidate, US House
    Release: No. H1N1-15
    Date Mailed: Sept. 15, 2009
    For Immediate Release
    Contact: Rob Potter–(959) 715-1520 or 310-877-5002

    It is presumed by Dr. Horowitz and others that government will attempt to compel vaccination v. h1n1, which is not possible under current law, especially US Constitution and state constitution law for many First Amendment and related privacy and civil rights reasons.

    http://www.infowars.com/len-horowitz-files-pandemic-charges-with-fbi-in-nyc/

  156. Michelle wrote:

    “Michelle // September 19, 2009 at 11:32 pm

    Val-Good one Val. Duh Obama $15.00 for something that every American except you has to provide for the most simple basic dealings in our country and you Mr. Messianic know it all-can’t come up with this document, and we are all supposed to act stupid and act like it doesn’t matter. Hello Constitutionally speaking it does.
    Mr. just pretend president who secretly wants to be a talk show host since he never gets off TV. He’s boring.”

    You know, I can turn around in my office chair, reach into a file cabinet, and pick out my birth certificate, as well as my certification of live birth and one other form of birth certification, in about 2 & 1/2 seconds.

    You all no doubt remember that O-ineligible found his birth certificate at some point. Wonder where he keeps it??

    Hmmm…

  157. Alex–8:49 am: yeah #3 was pretty funny!

  158. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Magna Carta,

    Don’t blame the evangelicals for Huckabee, they were looking for someone better than McCain at the beginning, and went for Huck in what, 5 states…

    It shows that is there is a solid Christian who has a few more noodles in his head, he will do well in a presidential race…

    ———-

    PF,

    You have a great platform,

    My advice…

    Move to a conservative district ASAP where someone from your background fits in…

    And run for Congress…

    “An Immigrant who loves Amercia for what She is , and wants to keep Her that way!”…

    could be your slogan…

    You’d probably do well in a hispanic district (no offense) or Italian district…

    ….

    No, I am not kidding…

  159. Linda fm NY 1017: He makes a lot of sense. It’s almost as if the far left wants to make O a martyr–for one thing they wouldn’t have to deal with the backlash of the fact they put him forward and didn’t vet him. After this, the whole country would be in turmoil because this would be the spark that triggers violent upheaval. Then, they just need to bring the hammer down in order to quash it. It would have even more dire results for us. The follow-on scenario would be that B steps down (or is otherwise removed) and P assumes the reins. As much time as O is away, B has already essentially been running things. This Chairmanship of UN Security Council thing, and the fact that Gordon Brown has been telling countries in Europe they need to accept the coming New World Economy, is very alarming. No matter, my faith and my trust is in the Lord. Jesus will always be my God and my Savior. Most Holy Trinity preserve and protect us!

  160. Nancy-I think it always good to payoff your house. You could still make the payment but it would go into savings. That way you’re covered all the way around. I’ve done this a couple of times myself, worked well for me.

  161. assassination of President Barack Obama. NO, NO a thousand times NO. Justice demands that he answer for his crimes -JAIL, JAIL, JAIL. He is obnoxious enough, can you image Mr. Obnoxious as a martyr to the cause of Communism, Socialism, Anti-Americanism, corrupt politics etc. They would really have a problem with the birth certificate issue then, which country should receive their “son” back?

  162. twe: If anything, we need to “Keep the Faith.” Another scenario might be, the whole house comes tumbling down. In this scenario, we would need to hold a new election. Some say, if the pp goes, we could get someone worse, but it is hard to imagine anyone worse than he is right now.

    My trust is in the Lord, also. I believe it is He who is really in charge. If we come back to Him and repent for our sins, He will save our nation.

    God Bless…Linda

  163. If you don’t like “Bible”…skip this one and move along to the next…
    It is Sunday, and what I read on 9-19 struck me as being poignant to the days in which we live;
    so unapologetically I’m posting from Is. 32:1-8:
    ———————————————————
    v 1)”Look, a righteous King is coming, with honest princes!….

    v 5-8) “In those days the ungodly, the atheists, will not be hereos! Wealthy cheaters will not be spoken of as generous, outstanding men! Everyone will recognize an evil man when he sees him, and hypocrites will fool no one at all. Their lies about God and their cheating of the hungry will be plain to see. The smooth tricks of evil men will be exposed, as will all the lies they use to oppress the poor in the courts. But good men will be generous to others and will be blessed of God for all they do.”
    ——————————————————-
    Sound familiar?

  164. Maybe having the Fightthesmears BC ad on Orly’s and WND is a good thing.

    When you click on the link – there’s that cheesy BC from factcheck.

    After seeing the LS Kenyan BC (whether it’s legit or not ) put it next to the factcheck BC – what a joke! That factcheck BC is a joke and it looks like one. The factcheck BC looks like something a school kid could have done. It really is a cheesy looking document.

  165. Now that we have Jeff Jones the former co-founder of the Red communist weather underground working for the current government, I thought this video confession by a former member might be note worthy .

    Jeff Jones is a convicted felon and a terrorist . Jeff Jones has been writing up the stimulus packages for congress. He is still very good friends and associates with ACORN ,SDS, New black Panther party, Van Jones , William Ayers , soetoro family , All the radicals groups of Chicago and many of the czars .

    Same agenda ?. Is this what Beck is trying to say?. FEMA camps ?.

    http://clintondems.com/2008/10/weather-underground-planned-to-kill-25-million/

  166. Re-do: Sounds good to me! Hope and pray this is what happens and soooooon!

    Happy Day…Linda

  167. Some more great 9/12 pics by categories

    http://912dc.dhwritings.com/

  168. re do–good post. It’s time to really get to know God and get to know your faith. We are really going to need to know what is what…less we be deceived by an attractive alternative. Listen to the Lord. Pray. And, keep the faith. God Bless.

  169. Jacqlyn wrote:

    “$50,000 cold hard cash to anybody in the media who can show me the actual authenticated long-form birth certificate which answers the above questions.”

    Thanks for posting this, Jacqlyn. I have a media list on my email program, and they’ll be getting the offer today!

  170. twe: Excellent pix and posters! Thanks for sharing!

  171. Linda from NY wrote, at 9:18 a.m.:

    Link to obambi that is worth posting in full and reading over several times!

    “General Electric’s influence in the White House is second only to Goldman Sachs.

    As noted in Obama: Trilateral Commission Endgame, members of the Trilateral Commission have thoroughly saturated the Obama administration — 13 percent of the U.S. membership now hold critical positions, including,

    Secretary of Treasury, Tim Geithner
    Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice
    National Security Advisor, Gen. James L. Jones
    Deputy National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon
    Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee, Paul Volker
    Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis C. Blair
    Assistant Secretary of State, Asia & Pacific, Kurt M. Campbell
    Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg
    State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Haass
    State Department, Special Envoy, Dennis Ross
    State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Holbrooke
    Deputy Undersecretary of State for economic, energy and agricultural affairs, Robert Hormats
    Note that Robert Hormats was vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs prior to his recent appointment. The economic development of Russia is part of his specific responsibilities.

    The purpose of controlling the Executive Branch since the election of Jimmy Carter in 1976, has been to create insider business deals for themselves, at the expense of everyone else. The fact that Eastern Europe will now be at the mercy of Vladimir Putin and the Russian Bear doesn’t seem to bother the Trilaterals in the slightest.

    Until this hegemony is exposed and broken up, there is zero percent chance of turning back Obama’s Marxist destruction of America as we know it today.

    hegemony – A trade related term indicating the dominance of one group over another such that the dominant group can dictate the terms of trade to its own advantage.”

    That is THE long and short of it all. And make the puppet ineligible, so you can get rid of him easily if he proves troublesome!

  172. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Good Morning, All.
    Val, Larry is implying that Orly (from California) sent theRhoades letter. BTW, over at The Betrayal they are claiming that with further investigation, Larry gave the Office Max person the wrong date, and the letter was sent from that office. Who Knows?
    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3440#comment-18462
    I do know that Larry should get off his high horse. He’s in no position to claim himself arbiter of the truth to begin with, and additionally IMHO he should be condemned for interfering in Orly’s case to try to take her down. Morally all he needed to do was not lie if Orly asked him to, he didn’t need to try to make sure that Obama wins. I question his motives. Like WND, keeping the controversy alive appears to be his driving force.

  173. “Let it be known that O cannot be (phony) POTUS and chairman of UN security council. Contact your congress men and speak out on this direct violation of sect. 9 of our beloved Constitution. O will have to resign as POTUS if he takes this Chair. Call ACLJ 757-226-2489 and ask Jay Sekulow for his help. O will be humiliated and the UN will not have the final authority they have been waiting for. NO ,God did not do this to us O is on assignment from satan to steal to kill and to destroy.”

    Carmen,

    You may have hit on something here. I just wonder if soetoro knows he is about to be discovered and is taking the UN position because he knows he will soon be out.

    No matter to him, the UN is a promotion and gives him the keys to the kingdom. CIC of a weakened United States does him no good, but being Citizen of the World gives him what he has wanted all along. And the people of the world will readily accept him since the “evil USA” has cast him out.

    HHHMMMMMMMM………..something to watch.

  174. According to our Church Bulletin Abortion is a $2 billion dollar a year “industry”.
    From the 100th through the 107th Congress, Planned Parenthood directly received almost two and a half BILLION dollars (or 30% of its entire income) from tax dollars under Title X.
    http://www.prolifealliance.com/taxpayer%20funding%20of%20abortion.htm
    If you have no ethics, no morality, no humanity I guess you can be involved in the abortion “industry”.
    I think the reason some people want abortion legalized is in some way it is to soothe their guilty consciences, as in- if it’s legal it must be ok. I don’t agree. It is not moral, as a human being I don’t know how anyone could do that operation. I just don’t. Murdering was promoted in Nazi Germany but that still did not make it right. Very bad when the state decides to make life and death decisions. They always seem to lean to death.

  175. Michelle wrote:

    “Michelle // September 20, 2009 at 11:19 am

    assassination of President Barack Obama. NO, NO a thousand times NO. Justice demands that he answer for his crimes -JAIL, JAIL, JAIL. He is obnoxious enough, can you image Mr. Obnoxious as a martyr to the cause of Communism, Socialism, Anti-Americanism, corrupt politics etc. They would really have a problem with the birth certificate issue then, which country should receive their “son” back?”

    If that happened, we would never hear the end- NEVER – of how wonderful and magnificent and marvelous King Barack Obama was. He would be, as you say, martyred, and a legend for all his zombie followers, and every other weak-minded person around the world. Remember what happened after Ted Kennedy, the one who left Mary Jo Kepechne in that cold, black water, died? It would be that times a million.

  176. Re-do I love Isiah He was one gutsy little prophet. I love how he got in the King’s face and told him what a dissolute little empire he had going. The passage really does fit the times. Same old humans, same problems since the beginning of time. I think selfishness is a major part of todays troubles. We will advance? God gave humans free will, look how it has been squandered.

  177. http://comments.americanthinker.com/read/42323/426140.html

    I think everyone, particularly CW who has written extensively about Operation Board Games will be interested in this.

  178. bhhbooo

    wrote
    So here’s Obama meddling in another Senate race!!!
    And he’s Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee at the UN in DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION!!

    TO FRINGEMEDIA: WHY DO YOU WANT TO IMPOSE COMMUNISM ON AMERICA SO BADLY??

    >>>please explain in detail how this is violation of the Constitution??

  179. Army D.A.V.

    Plan to kill millions. Watch this video of Larry Grathwohl who went undercover with Weater Underground quite a number of years ago & exposes their dirty plans. Quite shocking. I sent this to Beck a couple of months ago & also posted here. Worth reposting.

  180. Bob wrote:

    “bob // September 20, 2009 at 9:18 am

    I read L. Smith’s unflattering description of Orly, and he simply confirms to me that he something of a country boy — and a little out of his league.”

    Thanks for the post, Bob. Your point was right on the money, so to speak!

    Here are some comments at Lucas’ YouTube that I thought were also right on target:

    ” j007ism (8 hours ago) Spam Marked as spam Lucas,- cont’d, You say Orly has the “attention span of a small child”, yet you come on here acting like one by attacking her. If you really did obtain an authentic BC, then thank you. Coming on here and trashing Orly takes away from what you’ve accomplished. Orly is the only attorney getting widespread media coverage. Lastly, who are you to question her knowledge of law? Are you an attorney? Attorneys usually differ on interpretation of laws, it’s nothing new. Just like doctors may differ on treatments etc. Take care and stop the ridiculous insults on Orly.”

    ” j007ism (8 hours ago) Spam Marked as spam Lucas cont’d, Convenient for you that Orly can’t share what really transpired with us due to attorney-client privilege. You mentioned already that she told you to “get a job”. That’s probably because you waltzed in there expecting $ and she saw through you. If you’ve blown through “thousands” and have to eat “rice and plantains”, it’s not Orly’s fault you have poor $ management skills!”

    ” j007ism (8 hours ago) Spam Marked as spam Lucas, your animosity towards Orly Taitz
    is sickening. How many times are you going to mention that she eats at “upscale” restaurants? Who the *uck cares where she eats? Where do you expect her to eat, McDonalds? I guess anything other than fast-food is upscale to you considering the living conditions shown in your videos. I’m sure her husband makes more than enough money to accomodate their lifestyle. ”

    ” hopeful733 (14 hours ago) Spam Marked as spam Mr. Smith, I know well that you have issues with Orly Taitz; you have spelled them out clearly now and on previous occasions. That said, we all have to come to grips with the fact that verification of your document is not essential at this time. The primary reason for using it in its’ unvalidated state, is simply to indicate to the court that in the absence of B.H.O.’s “actual” birth certificate, supposition, suspicion, and doubt will continue to proliferate. Put another way; the court must be the source whereby B.H.O. is “forced” to release his original long form birth certificate. Should the long form birth certificate not be available, then other documents will be required by the court – In summary, Orly Taitz is simply trying to prove to the court that it must intervene and require the release of any original document(s) by B.H.O. “

  181. Oops, sorry.This is the same video Army D.A.V. posted.

  182. Someone probably already posted this, but my guess is just money. It’s usually the last thing I think of but, with Obama, it should be the first. This slimy, scummy bunch of thugs just bribes or blackmails anyone and everyone. So they just probably paid someone to do it.

    I mean, think of many of the obots you’re familiar with. You can tell that a lot of them couldn’t give a rat’s @$$ about politics or this country. They’re not doing it for love of America, as Birthers/Patriots/Constitutionalists are. They’re doing it because they have no morals, no life, and, apparently, no money. Or they just want more.

    What the HELL is going on in this country?
    *******************************************

    Alex….It is the evil of greed that has taken over our country…..one of the 10 deadliest sins!!!

  183. Michael Rivera podcasts – podcast frm 9/19. Great insights on current events and government corruption. (thankfully you can forward through commercial breaks)

    #1.
    [audio src="http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast//what_really/0919091.mp3" /]

    (I LOVE Brother Soloman who calls from Brazil – he’s a hoot!)

    #2.
    [audio src="http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast//what_really/0919092.mp3" /]

  184. #

    Civis Naturaliter Natus // September 20, 2009 at 8:09 am

    I am concerned about the Lucas and Sinclair claims that Orly pressued them to file false affidavits…

    My concern is what actually happened, and how it is being represented.

    It is one thing to strongly argue a point, with someone whom you don not believe is telling the truth, to get them to make a statement, which you have good reason to believe is the truth…

    It is another thing to pressure someone to sign an affidavit to a statement which you both know is false…

    What are these men saying about Orly?

    Was it a divergence of views about many issues; an argument…or were there real ethical violations…

    I am inclined to believe there were no ethical violations in the strict sense, but that there was a forceful disagrement…

    Lucas seems to have wanted money; but I hope Sinclair knows how much damage his filing has done, and how it could possibly ruing the entire case against Obama…
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    CNN….I am with you…however….Lucas Smith signed that affidavit in his own handwriting so I doubt he can claim he didn’t want to unless he proves someone had a gun to his head at the time…..Larry is a different case…..don’t know why he is even involved except he wants to see the fall of the FRAUD in our house….except on his terms and not Orly’s…..I haven’t seen what he claims she wanted him to lie about….Have you????

  185. Nancy, I read an update last day or so (I think on WND) concerning new evidence mounting on B. Dorhn. Evidently a few months ago the people coming forward rec’d a phone call demanding silence.

  186. Just Me-

    Yes, I read something about that also. And I think Army D.A.V. is probably correct in assuming that they all have the same agenda as exposed in the video above (unfortunately). So that reinvestigation of B. Dohrn is of strange timing. Don’t you think? As Beck says, everything is coming to gether. These people hate the internet because people are figuring out what has been going on. And the word is spreading like wildfire.

  187. #

    Alex // September 20, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Jacqlyn wrote:

    “$50,000 cold hard cash to anybody in the media who can show me the actual authenticated long-form birth certificate which answers the above questions.”

    Thanks for posting this, Jacqlyn. I have a media list on my email program, and they’ll be getting the offer today!
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    Alex…..Yeah for you!!! 🙂

  188. Army D.A.V.
    Jeff Jones is a convicted felon and a terrorist
    My question is: how do all of these convicted felons and terrorists get near the tax payers money? Terrorist means murderer to me. These people were the bomb makers and bombers not so long ago, here in the United States. Also how do these guys pass a criminal background test to even get into government, or do they skip that part too. I still think Obama is mobbed up-and I do mean Chicago Mob is at the top of all of this weird pyramid of criminals and malcontents.

  189. It is a shame, though, what the media is doing in not reporting the news. I was in the hair salon the other day & people had never even heard of ACORN. How is that even possible? One woman said she records The View & Oprah so she can watch them at night. I guess that could be the root of their ignorance.

  190. Venice, great article, thanks for sharing. a must read

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/the_blago_code.html

  191. #

    Truth Exists (Paulajal) // September 20, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Good Morning, All.
    Val, Larry is implying that Orly (from California) sent theRhoades letter. BTW, over at The Betrayal they are claiming that with further investigation, Larry gave the Office Max person the wrong date, and the letter was sent from that office. Who Knows?
    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=3440#comment-18462
    I do know that Larry should get off his high horse. He’s in no position to claim himself arbiter of the truth to begin with, and additionally IMHO he should be condemned for interfering in Orly’s case to try to take her down. Morally all he needed to do was not lie if Orly asked him to, he didn’t need to try to make sure that Obama wins. I question his motives. Like WND, keeping the controversy alive appears to be his driving force.
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    Truth…..this is the exact point I was trying to make…..Larry should have just walked away if things weren’t going the way he wished and that would be the end of it……Do you know what lies Orly was trying to get him to tell??? Also…..did anyone have a gun to his head forcing him to say anything he didn’t want to say……I think he is over playing his hand in trying to draw attention to himself as being the purveyor of truth and Orly is a LIAR…..Please Mr. Sinclair…..withdraw your affidavit and just bow out quietly……Thank you!

  192. OT, again with apologies, but I believe important

    http://jaghunters.blogspot.com/search/label/DEATH%20BY%20A%20THOUSAND%20CUTS

    Please read the entry by S.M. Timothy Joseph Harrington…..

    Then this:
    A very sobering and frightening thought crossed my mind this morning……… I doubt the master Horror Movie Producer Wes Craven could match this scenario #3:
    1. Suppose Ovomit does, in full contravention of the Constitution, assume the Chair of the U.N. Securty Council… in order to do this, he would necessarily have to resign as the president of the U.S……… now some horror develops. What happens to all the mess, corruption, scandal, he has been complicit in, in this country…..I understand if he was legitimate president, he could be impeached, and all his “work product, nominations, and the like, revert back to January 19th 2009 and a mountain of work would have to take place, to set up and reelect a replacement……. not a bad thing……

    Then, scenario #2………If he’s found to be an illegitimate usurper, then it’s call the Sheriff and frog-march the bastard to supermaxx prison… again.. not a bad thing…

    Now scenario #3, he’s assumed the Presidency of the Security Council, ignoring the Constitution, and since he hasn’t been officially legally removed from office either by resignation or just simple ouster, do all his nominations, executive orders, treaties he may have signed remain in place for his democrat successor to pick up where he left off, not even missing a stroke……………..(play “Twilight Zone” theme music here)….

    What happens then?………….

  193. Richard, exactly, something bigger and far more nefarious than small potatoes “just the USA” is in the brew-mix. Soros promised mental f….up Obama Kingship of the World. Note he is speaking and sitting close to Qadafi and Achmedinejad. He’s going to sell Achmedinejad jet parts. Carter’s encouraging him to bomb Israeli planes! He’s abandoned Eastern Europe allies. Everything is a set-up for what looks like World War.

  194. Richard- re: scenario #3 following 1 & 2, never was legal potus, therefore how could any illegal potus be president of Security Council, plus the new president would be facing a very angry constituency that is on the the games, gaming the system. That person would have to clean up everything, and make sure it stays that way.

  195. Please pass this along….this is from Orly at her site……..
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    Notice. Important
    September 20th, 2009

    I am submitting tomorrow to judge Carter a response to defendant’s motion. I will be busy today and tomorrow and will not have much time for blogging. Thank you for understanding.

    I will respond to Judge Land’s outrageous attack and threat of sanctions. This is very similar to what I have seen in the communist dictatorship in the Soviet Union. When judges refuse to hear the cases on the merits, when they summarily dismiss the case within a couple of days while they are supposed to give the counsel 20 days to respond by their own rules, when they take away from the plaintiffs their right to trial by jury, when they stifle free speech and take away right to counsel by threatening $10,000 sanctions if the attorney ever brings Obama illegitimacy case again, that is tyranny. That is judiciary as well as the top brass in the Department of Justice and Department of Defense colluding in perpetrating massive fraud and treason on the citizens of this country and taking away their constitutional rights. What is next? They will throw me in FEMA GULAG? I hope each and every citizen of this country rises against this tyranny. I will be seeking all means of redress available to me by law. I will be seeking Rule 11 discovery to prove that Obama is indeed illegitimate, my case was not frivolous and not only I don’t owe $10,000 in sanctions, but the defendants owe costs and my reasonable attorneys fees. These fees just went up significantly.

  196. John Bingham confirms that understanding and the construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March, 9, 1866 [4] [5] [6] [1] find no fault with the introductory clause[S61 Bill], which is simply declartory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of Parents not owing allegiance to any foreign soverignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… Obama Sr was never an American citizen, then he was adopted by another foreigner named Soetoro therefore he never met the requirement Natural Born Citizen for the office of President. Please educate yourself’s to what is happening, they are out to destroy America. Pelosi is responsible for allowing this.

  197. A great letter to Land from a grandmother…..let’s all write our own letters to this corrupt judge!!!!!

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    The Hon. Judge Clay Land

    120 12th Street

    PO Box 124

    Columbus, Georgia

    31902

    Dear Judge Land,

    I have just received some very sad and disparaging news re the case of Connie Rhodes. I hope it is in no way true that you have dismissed this case, calling it frivolous, and not recognizing the sacrifice of Orly Taitz (and several other attorneys, as well) whose ONLY wish is to see the Constitution upheld, preserve our freedom, and prevent continued LAWLESSNESS.

    Orly’s life has been threatened, her cars tampered with, in order to stop the pursuit of TRUTH and JUSTICE to which EVERY American citizen is entitled. So much more for our military, who risk losing life and limb, sacrificing themselves for the freedom we no longer have. It would be insane for them not to know EXACTLY who their Commander-in-Chief is because they also risk losing their protection under the Geneva Convention.

    Orly is guilty ONLY of loving her country; Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Obama, aka Barry Dunham, aka, etc. is guilty of usurping an office for which he is not eligible BY HIS OWN ADMISSION (as a dual national) and now of committing treason by REFUSING to release his Vital Records in the interest of TRUTH, JUSTICE, and the very FREEDOM and SURVIVAL of America as a nation. It is incumbent upon this man of many aliases, unreported on his law license and to date, to IDENTIFY himself.

    Your Honor is SWORN to uphold the Constitution and to discern Truth and promote Justice.

    This case, as every other of the eligibility cases that remain WRONGFULLY unheard, is NOT “politics as usual” in any way. In fact, it’s not politics at all. It is about the very foundation of our law and the basic protections that the Constitution gives and are now under siege and being violated with intent to harm and destroy innocents. It is about the removal of the Sovereignty of a nation. It is about DECEIT unto DEATH.

    NOBODY wins here unless truth is revealed and justice prevails.

    I urge Your Honor to “cast aside all vain imaginings” and use wisdom and discernment to seek after truth with honor and good judgment , to PURSUE truth and justice in order to save our country.

    I am a grandmother whose desire it is to see the little “light of her life” live FREE, in a FREE country, the essence “ heart, and soul” of which CANNOT be COMPROMISED or polluted by any means.

    “All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke’s foundational principle of law.

    Ignoring evil promotes evil until evil can no longer be ignored.

    At this very precarious and dangerous time for the very existence of our country, we need real heroes to defend and protect us.

    Please be one.

    Most Sincerely, I Identify Myself As,

    Fran Austin, Grandmother

  198. Jacqlyn Smith // September 20, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    Hi Jackie, and thanks for posting-I did see this on Orly’s site this morning.

    I’ve truly never seen anyone like her; while others talk a good game to get you on their side (mostly for the purposes of reelection), many do nothing but deliver lip service. Orly was, and continues to be, in their faces.

    Go Orly!

  199. Larry’s book now selling on Amazon in Kindle version.

  200. This is what I just posted at Larry Sinclair’s blog….I am getting tired of all the in fighting…what about you all???
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    How about some true Patriots just stepping forward to save our freedom and liberties of this country??? I see all of this bickering and fighting as a way for the FRAUD in our white house to turn our legitimate complaints and rule of Constitution into a three ring circus! Please let Orly do the job she is trying to do…..whether you agree with her method or not….it is her method and unless she held a gun to your head Mr. Sinclair and told you to lie…..then I don’t think you have a leg to stand on….just my opinion…and I used to be a supporter of yours as well…..even encouraged many people to buy your book. Think about this as well…..many times Orly’s statements are an outburst of bottled up emotions as the media, the Obots and now YOU try to discredit all of her hard work…..she may have said get the FRAUD out of the White House in 30 days….and I’m sure most of that statement was wishful thinking on her part!!! Please find a way to mend your rift for the good of our cause and the country!! Thank you, Jacqlyn K. Smith

  201. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    “These fees just went up significantly.”

    ————–

    I have not laughed so hard in a long time…

    This last line from Orly’s, “I’ll be responding to Judge Land” post…

    is absolutely a ringer!

  202. #

    Civis Naturaliter Natus // September 20, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    “These fees just went up significantly.”

    ————–

    I have not laughed so hard in a long time…

    This last line from Orly’s, “I’ll be responding to Judge Land” post…

    is absolutely a ringer!
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    CNN… I liked that part too!!! 🙂

  203. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I second J.S., request.

    Mr. Sinclair,

    I ask you as a gentleman, not to consider whatever momentary offense or disagreement you had, but the good of your country in the present hour.

    Withdraw your affidavit!

  204. Jacqlyn Smith // September 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    A great letter to Land from a grandmother…..let’s all write our own letters to this corrupt judge!!!!!

    *********************
    Excellent letter, very well written, thanks for posting Jacqlyn.

    Unfortunately the Judge will never read this letter , but we could burn up his FAX machine with a few thousand of them………

  205. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    J.S.,

    The Lord gave the Jewish people a natural sense for humor…they have no equal….

  206. Ignore the questions and doubts about Orly her motives are pure. We have to consider the sources they are coming from, and accept the progress that has been made. We all know it takes money to do what she is doing. On the last day of ramadan Sept.22 O will be sworn in as Chairman of UN Security Council. (coincidence?) I believe he intends to hold BOGUS POTUS and Chairmanship both while flipping off the US constitution. There is a war raging in the heavenlies it is the age old war of Abrahams two sons Issac and Ismael , Issac the son of promise and the christians, Ishmael the son of slavery and muslims. This nation has always worshipped the one the true and the living GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Eph.6:12 Get your houses in order this battle is not just in the natural but, strongly in the spirit realm. Our savior Jesus stands to make intercession for us. We have not because we ask not! SO ASK. Fast and Pray and abide in prayer. Matt.18:19 God is stll on the throne and His favor has always been on the USA. God Bless you all!

  207. TO: EVERYONE.

    I find it hard to believe that only TWO people read this:

    Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // September 20, 2009 at 9:14 am

    Happy Lord’s Day Everyone.

    My idea for a new Political Life Party.

    Christian Constitutionalist Coalition
    Reclaiming and Returning the Republic to it’s Christian Constitutional Conservative Founding.

    1- Limited Tiny Government Responsible to We The People, Obeying the Constitution.
    […]

    Thanks for the two that commented but I would like to hear from everyone.

    I would like to make this OUR PROJECT, there is a small window of opportunity to raise a strong Third Party that will replace the Non-Representing Republican Party and the Self-Destructing Democrat Party.
    Let’s get to work.

  208. I’ve supported Mr. Sinclair the whole time,
    but this is where I step off the train.

    This case is too important, and Dr. Taitz is
    close to Discovery. I also call on Larry to
    withdraw the affidavit.

    I’ve met Orly personally, and the first thing
    I noticed is that English is her second language,
    and sometimes things get lost in the translation a bit.
    What if any of us ever tried to immigrate to Russia, obtain a law degree and argue in court. Think about that, and how we could
    never quite get the nuances and lingo of
    their language.

    Her assertiveness is also part of her upbringing
    in a hellish country, and fighting to get out.
    When she asks people for things, it comes
    off a bit harsh and strong.

    Hope Larry reconsiders…

  209. #

    carmen // September 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Ignore the questions and doubts about Orly her motives are pure. We have to consider the sources they are coming from, and accept the progress that has been made. We all know it takes money to do what she is doing. On the last day of ramadan Sept.22 O will be sworn in as Chairman of UN Security Council. (coincidence?) I believe he intends to hold BOGUS POTUS and Chairmanship both while flipping off the US constitution. There is a war raging in the heavenlies it is the age old war of Abrahams two sons Issac and Ismael , Issac the son of promise and the christians, Ishmael the son of slavery and muslims. This nation has always worshipped the one the true and the living GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Eph.6:12 Get your houses in order this battle is not just in the natural but, strongly in the spirit realm. Our savior Jesus stands to make intercession for us. We have not because we ask not! SO ASK. Fast and Pray and abide in prayer. Matt.18:19 God is stll on the throne and His favor has always been on the USA. God Bless you all!
    ******************************************

    AMEN to this Carmen…..the FRAUD in our house could not have made it clearer in his book….that if the political wind shift….”he will stand with the Muslims”!! That is his own words!!

  210. #

    Jay // September 20, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    I’ve supported Mr. Sinclair the whole time,
    but this is where I step off the train.

    This case is too important, and Dr. Taitz is
    close to Discovery. I also call on Larry to
    withdraw the affidavit.

    I’ve met Orly personally, and the first thing
    I noticed is that English is her second language,
    and sometimes things get lost in the translation a bit.
    What if any of us ever tried to immigrate to Russia, obtain a law degree and argue in court. Think about that, and how we could
    never quite get the nuances and lingo of
    their language.

    Her assertiveness is also part of her upbringing
    in a hellish country, and fighting to get out.
    When she asks people for things, it comes
    off a bit harsh and strong.

    Hope Larry reconsiders…
    *******************************************

    Thank you Jay….go to his blog everyone and ask him nicely to reconsider WTH he is doing to this cause!!!

  211. Jacqlyn, an excellent letter to Larry. Also, thanks for posting the “Grandma” letter. She got to just where I think we should go with Land and others at the end:

    “At this very precarious and dangerous time for the very existence of our country, we need real heroes to defend and protect us.

    Please be one.

    Most Sincerely, I Identify Myself As,

    Fran Austin, Grandmother”

    Let them know they can be heroes if they do the right thing!

  212. I fully support Larry Sinclair and his right to do what he is doing, BUT I also have to ask to re-call this affidavit it is not serving any useful purpose. We all want the TRUTH and remember sometimes to “flush” out the Truth one may have to resotr to unconventional methods, this doesn’t make one dishonest but merely a truth chaser.

    This affidavit really means nothing it is one person’s opinion but it would be best reconsidered. All Larry had to do was say “No thanks, I don’t feel rigth doing it your way Orly, good luck and bye bye.”

  213. Do any of you here know about this Free Leo the Lawyer….I just happened to come across the stuff below at…. http://freeleohaffey.blogspot.com/

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    CRIMES COMMITTED BY BO SUPPORTERS IN NASHVILLE:
    Posts like this, made by Leo, might help explain why he has so many enemies in Nashville.

    Today, after an extensive eight month investigation, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are breaking their silence and revealing explosive information about a widespread cover-up that began at the earliest stages of the Obama presidential campaign. The cover-up traces back to some of the most powerful and influential people in the U.S. and continues today.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

    CRIMES COMMITTED BY BO SUPPORTERS IN NASHVILLE:

    There is an ongoing criminal conspiracy among Obama supporters in Nashville to cover up crimes committed by his campaign in 2007, 2008 and 2009. These crimes include, but are not limited to, VOTER FRAUD, IDENTITY THEFT, COMPUTER THEFT, INVASION OF PRIVACY and petty BURGLARIES similar to WATERGATE.

    These seemingly petty burglaries are to the Nashville BO Campaign what Watergate was to the Nixon Campaign.

    http://www.wsmv.com/news/15010922/detail.html

    http://www.wsmv.com/news/15056621/detail.html?subid=1010669

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/PCWorld/story?id=4158989

    http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=7568477&Clie

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/04/nashville-da-refuses-to-investigate-child-marriage-pedophilia-child-abuse-in-shariah-classes.html

  214. War Hero, your posts are always so interesting. I did not respond because you said “Christian.” Although I love Jesus, pray all day, love God (I call Him “Loving Light), I also know there are fabulous folks that are not Christians, and I know you don’t want to exclude anyone that is a good person and a patriot for our country. So I didn’t know what to say. Sorry!

  215. rmy D.A.V. // September 20, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // September 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    A great letter to Land from a grandmother…..let’s all write our own letters to this corrupt judge!!!!!

    *********************
    Excellent letter, very well written, thanks for posting Jacqlyn.

    Unfortunately the Judge will never read this letter , but we could burn up his FAX machine with a few thousand of them………
    ******************************************

    Can someone here….find and post the numbers for Land….maybe as Army suggests we can get a few faxes sent!!

  216. More info about Leo the Lawyer as posted at…..

    http://freeleohaffey.blogspot.com/

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Why is Leo the Lawyer in Jail in Nashville?
    Leo the Lawyer (Leo Haffey) is an attorney from Nashville, TN who is a tireless patriot familiar to many of us on the Internet and various blogs.

    The official charges are assault. His bond was revoked. No one has been injured and there are serious questions about the political motives of his accusers who are politically powerful liberal Democrats.

    Attempts are being made to administer anti-psychotic drugs to Leo even though Leo says there has been no diagnosis established.

    He was not allowed to call his wife or daughter in his defense, however the prosecution has called them as witnesses for the prosecution.

    I don’t know enough about this case to speak authoritatively but I do smell a rat.

    I established this blog as a showcase for some of Leo’s writings and to provide an information hub for his family, friends, and supporters.

    If you would like to post articles, comments, or good wishes to Leo please contact Aristotle the Hun at writerpromo@comcast.net

  217. Jacqlyn , Orly’s letter was great and I noticed she had someone do a little brush up edit on the English before she sent it. Clear, concise, and beautifully done.

  218. Jacqlyn, I am confused. Why is leo in jail.? Why would his Wife and Daughter be called to be witnesses for the prosecution?

  219. “Attempts are being made to administer anti-psychotic drugs to Leo even though Leo says there has been no diagnosis established.”

    Well, that pretty much settles it folks, we’re LIVING Communism right now. I’m beginning to think there’s no way for this train–going down hill FAST, around.

  220. #

    Margie // September 20, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Jacqlyn, I am confused. Why is leo in jail.? Why would his Wife and Daughter be called to be witnesses for the prosecution?
    ******************************************
    In my post at 2:18 it says he is being accused of assault….I guess maybe on the wife or daughter….who knows???? Does anyone here know???

  221. #

    ticktock // September 20, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    “Attempts are being made to administer anti-psychotic drugs to Leo even though Leo says there has been no diagnosis established.”

    Well, that pretty much settles it folks, we’re LIVING Communism right now. I’m beginning to think there’s no way for this train–going down hill FAST, around.
    *******************************************

    Larry Sinclair should be involved in this and leave Orly alone….it sounds like they are doing the same to Leo that the did to Sinclair….throwing him in jail for bogus reasons by Biden’s son….sounds like the same sort of tyranny!!!

  222. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    An explanation of what Rule 11 Discovery is:

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/taitz-to-demand-rule-11-discovery/

    Looks like Orly has good grounds, now we’ll have to see if Land cooled off over the weekend…

  223. Oeter Francisco,
    I love your spirit and ideas but I tend to agree with Rush on this.We have to work within the existing Republican party there is too much to risk by trying to pull off a third party.
    Look at it this way. If the communists were able to hijack the Democratic party,why can’t clear prnicipled conservatives take back the Republican party.We have never really tried that with vigor.I think now that everyone understands whats at stake the wafflers and RINOs can be pushed out or straightened up. This spirit and resolve was manifested at the 9-12 march.I think that shows it can be done.

  224. Below is an article that Leo posted on Aug 2nd at his blog….. http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com/

    below is a portion of his article…do to the blog to read it all….sounds pretty lucid to me….why are they trying to give him drugs????
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    Our Privilege, Our Right & Our Duty
    Posted by Legally Remove BO on Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:00:00 AM

    Our Privilege, Our Right & Our Duty

    by

    Leo Patrick Haffey

    We were blessed from our beginning as a Nation under God. Our Founding Fathers bestowed on We the People the most profound privileges in the history of mankind. In Our Declaration of Independence, Our Founding Fathers eloquently stated our basic rights: “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    As with all Privileges and Rights, Duty comes. In the 233 years of our existence as a Nation by the people, we have lost sight of our Duty. I am as guilty as anyone of wanting to have the privileges and rights without having to perform the duty, but all of that changed for all of us on January 20, 2009. On that infamous date, a puppet of the puppet masters, alien to Our Constitution, was inaugurated as the 44th “President” of the United States of America.

    The Socialists, Communists and others alien to Our Country and Our Cause say that this “change” to our Nation is forever, but is that so? I don’t think so.
    To dispel that alien notion of “change,” We the People need look no further than the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States, “We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect Union… do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America.” Thus, “we the people,” individually, are established as one party among many to a contract binding upon the executors of this contract, our Constitution.

    Who then are the executors of this contract with the people?

  225. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    PF, Alex, and all interested in a 3rd Party….

    Its a canard, that a Christian nation, or a Christian civil order discriminates against non-Christians…

    Why?

    Because the very notion of human rights, freedom, liberty, responsibility, justice among men and the law of nations all derive from Christian theology, which gave them birth and kept them alive.

    If you are not a Christian, you have no better liberty than a Christian state…

    Such as state as the USA was founded by Christians…without Christians its will fall back into tyranny…and that is just is what is happening with this I’m my own religion Usurper and his atheistic communist party…

    Christians never were against non-Christians…we are a peaceful people…

    Christians were the first to oppose slavery, guarantee individual liberty, the rights to free speech, free worship, etc…

    The FreeMasons have been working since 1717 to instill the phoney notion that Christianity is inimical to freedom…

    Its a canard…

  226. Patriot Dreamer

    “NBC’s David Gregory worries protestors are one step away from OK City bombing, Obama calls for civil discourse”
    http://radioviceonline.com/nbcs-david-gregory-worries-protestors-are-one-step-away-from-ok-city-bombing-obama-calls-for-civil-discourse/

  227. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I’ll add that Christians were the first to pass laws to safeguard Jews.

    Alot is written against Christians, esp. Catholics, for establishing Ghettos accross Europe…

    What you don’t read is that the Rabbi’s asked us to!

    You see, in Medieval Europe Jews who did not live in close proximity to other jews, soon stopped practicing, then started intermarrying…the Rabbis sought from Christian rules the rights to establish Ghettos and certain liberties and privileges for Jews who lived there,

    This was to promote their community life, common values and religious beliefs..

    The Popes even issued numerous decrees excommunicating those who violated the sanctuary of the Ghettoes…once in a Ghetto you came under Jewish law…

    It was forbidden to sack synagoges, Ghettos, etc. of the Jews…that’s why they stayed and flourish there…

    This was a concept of religiouis freedom that has never been allowed in post Christian states…the idea that a religious minority which is peaceful should have the right of local jurisdiction based on their religious beliefs, with particular laws differing from Christians

  228. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Patriot Dreamer,

    Gregory is a left wing NUT !

    He is probably dreaming of such an attack…

    So far we have only seen Left wing terroists…such as the Holocaust Memorial shooter…

  229. Patriot Dreamer

    CNN, it’s almost like they’re hoping for a Reichstag event.

  230. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Magna Carta,

    While what you say about the Republicans SEEMS reasonable, you don’t take into account that the Republican party is TOTALLY against the Constitution, COOPERATES AND RECOGNIZES the usurper..

    even the best of them, such as Inofe, Paul, or Palin, won’t touch the “birther movement”

    They are NOT WORTH YOUR TIME

    NOR

    YOUR CONFIDENCE

    we need massive voter disobedience to the 2 main parties…or at least we need to infiltrate both…

    We could field constitutionalists in both primaries, and that way drain the funds of both parties and give better chance of putting constitutionalists in all kinds of districts…

  231. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/54273

    Boehner says health care plan is dead.

  232. Off topic again, but Blago says if he goes down, everyone goes with him.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/the_blago_code.html

  233. PD, Gregory has been given his marching orders by his Creepy Corporate Cabal overlords. NO ONE is planning to do ANYTHING to o-ineligible – he’s not important enough! He’s a fly, he’s a puppet, he’s nothing but a twit on a stick, doing what the people who pay him tell him to, then he shuts up and slinks off to be bossed around by MEsHELLe.

    They’re all sounding like raving lunatics, and it’s becoming increasingly clear that they can’t keep it up much longer, mostly because Patriots are getting the truth out VERY well. Let’s keep it up! AND let’s figure out what to do with the people BEHIND the attempted takeover of our country…

    **************

    CNN, as far as a Christian nation goes, I’m all for it. I think our War Hero was talking about a political party, and you need one that’s VERY BIG. I was just saying there are a lot of good people that aren’t Christians.

    Now, the Muslim thing…that’s a different story.I think there are good people that are Muslims, but they can’t possibly understand the tenets of their religion.

    The principles behind that religion, taken as a whole, are very dangerous and destructive, in my opinion. To take just one GLARING example: The Islamic approach toward women is abusive and chauvanistic in the extreme. No human being should be treated the way that the Koran says it’s o.k. to treat women, which is essentially like an animal that is your property.

    I believe there is at least one movement within the religion that is trying to change it, but I don’t know how close that might be to happening.

  234. Patriot Dreamer
    Obama calls for civil discourse, here is the simplest solution for most of our troubles. Apply the Constitution Obama out, we have a legal government again. No worries on either side.

  235. Nancy.

    I can see the Headlines now.

    Former Governor Rod Blagojevich was found shot to death outside his Illinoise home Friday.

    Police say they have no leads at this time, but an investigation is underway.

  236. Everyone,

    I just posted the Virginia model complaint of election fraud to the AG, against The Honorable Nancy Pelosi.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/the-cheese-stands-alone/

  237. Rather long but worth the read if you haven’t been to Mario’s site…. here is the link…. http://puzo1.blogspot.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ “Simply Saying Something Is So Does Not Make It So” — Judge Land, Rhodes v. Obama On September 16, 2009, the Hon. Clay D. Land of the United States District Court in Georgia dismissed Captain Connie Rhodes, M.D.’s action against Obama and the military, finding that the court had to abstain (when a court declines to hear a matter because of comity and respect for the unique military decision-making process) from deciding the case because for the court to exercise its jurisdiction would be an inappropriate intrusion into military matters. In his opinion, Judge Land said that Obama’s “ ‘short-form’ birth certificate has been made publicly available which indicates that the President was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961. . . .” In deciding the abstention issue, even though there has not yet been any discovery allowed in the case, the Court commented on the underlying merits of the evidence presented by the plaintiffs on the question of Obama’s place of birth. In discussing what evidence the plaintiffs rely upon to show that Obama was not born in Hawaii as he claims, Judge Land address the Lucas Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate and said the following in Footnote 5: “One piece of evidence Plaintiff’s counsel relies upon deserves further discussion. Counsel has produced a document that she claims shows the President was born in Kenya, yet she has not authenticated that document. She has produced an affidavit from someone who allegedly obtained the document from a hospital in Mombasa, Kenya by paying ‘a cash ‘consideration’ to a Kenyan military officer on duty to look the other way, while [he] obtained the copy’ of the document. (Smith Decl. Para. 7, Sept. 3, 2009). Counsel has not, however, produced an original certificate of authentication from the government agency that supposedly has official custody of the document. Therefore, the Court finds that the alleged document is unreliable due to counsel’s failure to properly authenticate the document. See Fed. R. Evid. 901.” Obama wants to be President and Commander in Chief. He therefore has to show that he is eligible for the position. This means he has to conclusively prove, among other things, that he is an Article II “natural born Citizen.” Given that his father was not a U.S. citizen and his U.S. citizen mother was too young when Obama was born and therefore could not transmit U.S. citizenship to him should Obama be born out of the United States, Obama must first conclusively prove that he was born in the United States and was subject to its jurisdiction when born, thereby making him a Fourteenth Amendment born “citizen.” Once he conclusively proves that fact, he must then conclusively show that he is a “natural born Citizen” under Article II, a showing that he cannot make because his father was a British subject/citizen when Obama was born and Obama himself was born a British subject/citizen. On the threshold question of place of birth, Obama has posted on the internet a computer image of an alleged Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) (not a Hawaiian long-form Birth Certificate). Regarding the place of birth issue, Judge Land said that he could not accept the Lucas Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate as reliable because plaintiffs’ counsel did not “produced an original certificate of authentication from the government agency that supposedly has official custody of the document.” But let us consider what Obama has produced to show that he was born in Hawaii. We know that he posted on his web site the image of a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) as proof that he was born in Hawaii. But we also know that numerous people have questioned the authenticity of this computer image. There have been allegations by some “experts” that the electronic image is a forgery. Many people have demanded that Obama produce to some official government authority for inspection an actual piece of paper which was used to produce the on-line image of the COLB. Many people have demanded to see the real long-form birth certificate so that conflicting information (including but not limited to statements made by Obama’s own family, Kenyan government officials, and African newspapers) regarding his place of birth can be put to rest. Numerous people have demanded that Obama release to the public the many other documents (education, travel, and employment) which can corroborate his birth place claim but he has refused to do so. Neither Obama nor the State of Hawaii nor any governmental entity or official has provided this information to the American public. Judge Land found that because Obama overcame a “grueling” primary campaign and a “formidable opponent” [McCain] in the general election, “ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office he sought.” But what Judge Land described is a political process that works well when a candidate does not hide virtually all his important papers (including his real birth certificate). Indeed, we must also remember that there is also a legal process to any election which must be respected for that election to have any legitimacy in a Constitutional Republic. Given our standard of what the rule of law means, are we to simply accept an internet image of a document that, given the existing contradictory evidence, does not in itself conclusively prove that Obama was born in Hawaii and which in no way erases the many doubts that still exist regarding the place of Obama’s birth? I understand that when a party presents a document to a court of law as evidence, that party must satisfy the rules of evidence for that court to receive that document into evidence. A judge confronted with such a document is bound by the law to apply the rules of evidence when deciding whether or not to accept that document into evidence. I therefore cannot fault Judge Land for his decision to refuse to consider the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate. I am also not suggesting that this birth certificate has been shown to be authentic. But what Judge Land ruled regarding the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate raises a much more important point. Judge Land was not willing to accept the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate because as he said counsel did not “produced an original certificate of authentication from the government agency that supposedly has official custody of the document.” But he automatically and without question in effect accepted Obama’s on-line image of an alleged “short-form” birth certificate (the COLB) without Obama or anyone on his behalf producing the same “original certificate of authentication from the government agency that supposedly has official custody of the document.” Why did Judge Land not apply the same evidence standard to Obama’s on-line COLB as he did to the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate? I understand that Obama was not attempting to introduce the internet image of his COLB or the paper version thereof into evidence and so Judge Land did not have to rule on the admissibility of that evidence. Nevertheless, if we are committed to learning what is the truth regarding Obama’s place of birth, should we not expect Judge Land in his comments to treat all documents equally until each document’s reliability can be sufficiently confirmed? Should not the Court have been much more concerned with the question of whether a person occupying the Office of the President and Commander in Chief is truly born where he says he was than it was with the question of whether the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate was authentic and therefore admissible into evidence? Something is wrong when a Court does not accept the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate because there is no government agency certification as to its authenticity but it accepts an unconfirmed, on-line electronic image of a document that is not even a birth certificate as the only piece of hard evidence that allegedly shows that the President was born in Hawaii. Just like Judge Land rejected the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate because no one presented “an original certificate of authentication from the government agency that supposedly has official custody of the document,” should he not also have reject Obama’s internet-posted COLB since he also never provided any such authentication document to the American people or to any competent government agency? Should we not be more concerned with making sure that the computer image of the COLB which Obama presented to the public and the actual paper version thereof and the long-form birth certificate are authentic than with making sure that the Smith Kenyan Birth Certificate presented in a court proceeding is authentic? I believe the answer is obvious. In short, is Obama’s evidence as to where he was born any better or even worse than that of Captain Rhodes’ evidence? Why have some allowed such a double standard to exist? Why should anyone protect Obama to the point that he or she is willing to risk the nation’s very survival? What is so wrong in confirming whether something is true, especially when one can suffer devastating consequences if it is false? Is the price for knowing the truth about Obama’s birth place and whether he is an Article II “natural born Citizen” so heavy that we just have to accept things the way we are told they are? Let us hold Obama to the same Alice in Wonderland standard Judge Land used in the Rhodes case-“simply saying something is so does not make it so.” And let us also remember that the emperor could have no clothes. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. 185 Gatzmer Avenue Jamesburg, New Jersey 08831 9-18-09 Posted by Puzo1 at 12:01 PM 22 comments Labels: Apuzzo, Article II, constitutional eligibility president, Kerchner, natural born citizen, Obama Saturday, September 12, 2009 Why For McCain But Not For Obama? Senator McCain was either born in the Panama Canal Zone or in Panama proper. Neither of these locations is located in the United States. He claims he was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Hence, let us analyze his citizenship status with the assumption that he was born in that location. McCain cannot be a U.S. “citizen” under the Fourteenth Amendment which requires that a born “citizen” be born in the United States and be subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Since the Constitution does not provide any source for McCain to be a U.S. citizen, we must look to Congressional Acts for any such basis. Additionally, even if McCain were to be declared a “citizen” under the Fourteenth Amendment or any Congressional Act, he would still have to prove that he was an Article II “natural born Citizen.” Some have raised the question whether under the Act of August 4, 1937, Sec. 1, 50 Stat. 558, codified at INA Section 303(b) (8 U.S.C. 1403), McCain may be declared an Article II “natural born Citizen.” Before we examine Section 303(b), we must first look at Act of May 24, 1934, Sec. 1, 48 Stat. 797, ch. 344, which granted citizenship to the foreign born children of U.S. citizen mothers or fathers. This law became effective in 1934. McCain was born on August 29, 1936. Hence, it would appear that this statute applied to him. But upon close examination, we can see that it does not provide him with citizenship. While Section 1993 of this law granted U.S. citizenship to children born oversees to U.S. citizens, it granted citizenship only to children who were born out of the United States and out of its jurisdiction. Hence, those born in the Canal Zone (an unincorporated territory) and not in Panama (which was out of United States jurisdiction) did not qualify for citizenship because while the Canal Zone was physically located out of the territory of the United States, it was not out of the jurisdiction of the United States. Hence, when McCain was born on August 29, 1936 in the Canal Zone, this statute did not grant him U.S. citizenship and there existed no other statute that could do so. In other words, Senator McCain was not a U.S. citizen under any Congressional Act when he was born. Gabriel J. Chin, “Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship.” (Chin implicitly recognizes that a Fourteenth Amendment “citizen” is not the same thing as an Article II “natural born Citizen”). Not being a born “citizen” under any Act of Congress, he surely cannot argue that he is a “natural born Citizen” under any such Act. The next statute to examine is INA Sec. 303 which provides: “(a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States. (b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.” First, we know that McCain was born on August 29, 1936. This statute did not go into effect until 1937. The problem for McCain using INA Sec. 303(b) to gain “natural born Citizen” status is therefore that the Act did not exist when he was born and can only help him retroactively. But “natural born Citizen” status must be established at the time of birth. Apart from want of constitutional authority and the fact that the children were not born “in the country,” this could be another reason why the Third Congress in the 1795 Act removed the words “natural born” from the 1790 Act, which had created “natural born citizens” retroactively. Second, by using this statute to be declared a “natural born Citizen,” McCain would be gaining the status by statute. We know that “natural born Citizen” status cannot be so gained, for Congress has the constitutional power to naturalize persons but not to make them “natural born Citizens.” Even the Foreign Affairs Manual at 7 FAM 1131.6-2(d) recognizes the distinction between being a “natural born Citizen” under the Constitution and being declared a “natural born citizen” under a Congressional Act: “the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes.” The manual commits error here, for the act only gives “citizen” status and in suggesting that anyone could be a “natural born citizen” by statue. Except for the repealed 1790 Act, Congress has never made any such attempt. Third, the text of the statute confers only the status of “citizen” and not “natural born Citizen.” Article II mandates that one be a “natural born Citizen” and not only a “citizen” to be eligible to be President. The question then is what other avenue exists for McCain to be declared an Article II “natural born Citizen.” According to Vattel, being physically born out of the country did not necessarily mean that one was not born “in the country.” E. Vattel, The Law of Nations, Or, Principles of the Law of Nature. Sec. 215-217. Vattel explained that if a child was born “in the armies of the state,” that child was “reputed born in the country; for a citizen, who is absent with his family on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.” Vattel, Sec. 217. Since this child would have been born in the foreign “armies of the state,” he would normally not be granted citizenship in the country in which he was physically born. Additionally, the country on whose soil the child might be born might adhere to a jus sanguinis system of conferring citizenship (meaning that born on its soil alone would not confer citizenship and therefore allegiance and loyalty on the child). Being born under those conditions, this child would therefore be born with sole allegiance to the country of his parents and would qualify as a “natural born citizen” of that country. Hence, it can be argued that McCain is a “natural born Citizen” under federal common law that emanated from the law of nations which had its source in natural law, as described by Vattel and all of which the Framers accepted as our federal common law during the Founding. In such case, “natural born Citizen” status is not created by Congress but rather by law that already existed among civilized nations and was, indeed, jus gentium. It is this law (natural law that became the law of nations and which became U.S. federal common law) from which the Founders extracted the meaning of “natural born Citizen.” Reliance on common law to make McCain was also utilized by Tribe and Olson in drafting their position paper which is the basis of Senate Resolution 511. See also Chin, “Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President” (also recognizes common law citizenship that existed during the Founding). This argument is McCain’s best chance for “natural born Citizen” status. This argument also brings good news for members of our military who are serving and defending our country from abroad, who may give birth to children there, and who may want those children to be eligible to be President. Chin, in his article, “Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President,” said about Senator McCain: “In a government of laws, not of people, rules apply equally to all. . . . In addition, no legitimate system of laws can dispose of this question by saying it does not matter whether Senator McCain is a natural born citizen; inconvenient laws cannot be ignored simply because one expects to get away with it. It cannot be that because he is a major party’s nominee, he is, therefore a citizen at birth. Senator McCain must find a sound legal basis to be a natural born citizen. The implications of that legal principle must be equally available to every person similarly situated.” Commenting on McCain’s philosophy on how the judiciary should function, Chin quoted McCain as saying: “‘When applying the law the role of judges is not to impose their own view as to the best policy choices for society but to faithfully and accurately determine the policy choices already made by the people and embodied in the law.\'” McCain, like Obama, has been sued over the question of whether he is an Article II “natural born Citizen.” McCain produced his birth certificate for those who challenged him. Congress fully investigated and researched his status, with the Senate passing Resolution 511 (which is legally flawed) in which it declared him to be a “natural born Citizen.” The courts also expeditiously addressed the issue. Surely, the same standard as applied to McCain applies to Obama. Surely, Congress should have dealt with Obama as it did with McCain. Surely, we would also expect the courts to deal as promptly with Obama’s case as they did with McCain’s. But why was it so easy to apply these principles to McCain but so hard to apply them to Obama? Has Obama found “a sound legal basis to be a natural born citizen?” Not even close. Is he not “similarly situated” as was McCain? Other than McCain just being a candidate for President and Obama going on to win that Office, he surely is. We are still waiting for the Court to decide Obama’s and Congress’s motion to dismiss the Kerchner et al. complaint for, among other things, lack of standing and government immunity. Let us hope that the Court will, indeed, “faithfully and accurately” determine what our Founding Fathers intended when they wrote the “natural born Citizen” clause and apply that finding to Obama so that our nation may know whether he is eligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military. Let us hope that the Court acts to support and defend the Constitution in this historic case by finding that the plaintiffs have standing and that the defendants are not immune from suit. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. 185 Gatzmer Avenue Jamesburg, NJ 08831 9-12-09 Posted by Puzo1 at 5:32 PM 56 comments Labels: Apuzzo, constitutional eligibility president, Kerchner, natural born citizen, Obama Thursday, September 10, 2009 Mombasa Kenya History and Geography Here is an interesting post at Free Republic about the governmental jurisdictions controlling Mombasa over the years. Mombasa is now part of the country of Kenya. In 1961, when it is alleged that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya was not a separate country yet. It was part of the British Protectorate of East Africa, and was not part of Zanzibar as the Obots claim online in blogs to confuse issues. In 1961 what is now Kenya and what is now Zanzibar were both part of the British Protectorate of East Africa. Read the post at Free Republic for more details. Also, links are provided there to some neat historical maps. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2334186/posts Charles Kerchner Posted by cfkerchner at 5:59 PM 4 comments Labels: Apuzzo, British at Birth, British Protectorate of East Africa, British Subject, congress, Geography, History, Kenya, Kerchner, lawsuit, Mombasa, Obama Tuesday, September 8, 2009 The Natural Born Citizen Clause of Our U.S. Constitution Requires that Both of the Child’s Parents Be U.S. Citizens At the Time of Birth When interpreting the Constitution, we must decide whether we will look to the document as an original and static one whose meaning has already been established at a given time by the People and its Framers or one that is living and which can be changed over any given time by a court of law. See the address of Justice Antonin Scalia to the 2008 Annual National Lawyers Convention on November 22, 2008, at the Mayflower Hotel, in Washington, D.C. http://www.fed-soc.org/publications/pubid.1193/pub_detail.asp. (advocates originalism rather than living constitutionalism). I submit that Article II’s “natural born Citizen” clause has a fixed and knowable meaning which was established at the time of its drafting and should therefore be interpreted through the eyes of the original Framers that drafted and ratified the clause so as to determine what they intended the clause to mean (original intent theory). I also submit that we should interpret the “natural born Citizen” clause in a way that reasonable persons living at the time of its adoption would have declared the ordinary meaning of the text to be (original meaning theory). This is not living constitutionalism but rather originalism or textualism as applied to interpreting the Constitution. It is this latter approach that I will utilize in this article. E. Vattel stated in 1758, as translated into English in 1797: “The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see, whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” E. Vattel, The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law, Sec. 212 Citizens and natives. In Footnote 1 at the end of Sec. 212, Vattel stated that “as a general rule” the child inherits his father’s citizenship, or his mother’s but only if she is not married. The first thing that we have to understand about what Vattel wrote is that he made a distinction between a “citizen” and a “natural born Citizen.” A citizen is simply a member of the civil society who is bound to the society by certain duties and subject to its authority. “Citizens” also participate equally in all the advantages the society has to offer. On the other hand, a “natural born Citizen” means much more than just “citizen.” Vattel required that for a child to be a “natural born citizen,” or what he called in French in his 1758 first edition of The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law, les naturels, ou indigenes (the “natives or indigines”-The Venus, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253 (1814)), the child must be born in the country to both parents who are also citizens of the same country. In the original French, Vattel wrote: “Les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays de parents citoyens,” meaning the “natives or indigines” are those born in the country of citizen parents. Both the Framers and later English translators of Vattel’s treatise replaced the words”natural born Citizen” for the words “natives or indigenes.” From Madison’s notes, we see that there were some delegates who were concerned about foreigners. For example, from Max Farrand’s transcripts of Madison’s notes (August 9 and August 13, 1787), there is the following concerning the House of Representatives eligibility requirements: “Mr. Gerry wished that in future the eligibility might be confined to Natives.” The word “native” occurs multiple times in the notes for these two days. (The phrase “natural born citizen” was not used here by the delegates.). The word “native” was a synonym for the phrase “natural born citizen.” The delegates had already used the term “natural born citizen” when proposing the requirements for President, Vice President, and either House of Congress and later used the word “natives” when referring to eligibility requirements for the House of Representative. There is further evidence of this in at least three works: Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (see Book the First: The Rights of Persons; Chapter the Tenth: Of People, Whether Aliens, Denizens or Natives.), translations of Quintilian’s “Institutio Oratoria”, and the 1797 English edition of Vattel’s “The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law.” In the beginning of his definition, Vattel required that the children be born of “parents” who are citizens. The use of the word “parents” refers to both mother and father. If he required only one parent such as the father, he would have said “of fathers who are citizens” and not “of parents who are citizens.” He did later refer to “fathers,” but only because wives automatically acquired the citizenship of their husbands the same way children did. This rule was carried into our own naturalization laws, wherein citizenship can be derived from a close relation. Historically, a number of U.S. laws have provided for the automatic naturalization of children or wives (not husbands) of naturalized U.S. citizens. In some periods of our history, these laws provided that married women derived citizenship from their husband and had no control over their status. Under the Act of 10 February 1855, a woman automatically became an American upon marrying a U.S. citizen or following the naturalization of her foreign husband. Kelly v. Owen, 74 U.S. 7 Wall. 496 (1868). The 1922 Married Women’s Act (or the Cable Act) finally severed the link between naturalization and marital status for most women. Hence, if Vattel meant to focus only on “fathers,” he would have used “fathers” throughout his definition and never mentioned “parents” when he first defined “natural born Citizen,” for there would not have been any need to use the word “parents” when “fathers” would have sufficed. Hence, Vattel would have focused on the citizenship of the father since that citizenship would determine that of both the mother and child. It is also noteworthy that Vattel had no problem allowing the child to inherit the citizenship of the mother when the mother was not married to the child’s father. Given that Vattel in effect really focused on the citizenship of both the child’s father and mother in defining a “natural born Citizen,” Vattel’s definition of a “natural born Citizen” does not violate the equal protection guarantee embedded in the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause. Miller v. Albright, 523 U.S. 420 (1998); Nguyen v. INS, 533 U.S. 53, 121 S.Ct. 2053; 150 L.Ed.2d 115 (2001). There is historical evidence that the Founders borrowed from the Dutch much more heavily than from the British when making the new nation. During the revolutionary period Dutch law provided for citizenship by jus sanguinis. There is considerable evidence that the Framers were also influenced by the citizenship law of Holland. “The American colonists had become familiar with the rights of citizenship possessed in other countries, both from the fact that some of them resided in Holland for a time, before they came to America, and from the further fact that the New York colony was essentially Dutch in its original settlement and government.” John S. Wise, A Treatise on American Citizenship (1906). In Holland, “[c]itizenship could be acquired in several ways. Probably the most common was birth. Some towns accepted everyone as citizen who was baptized in a local church. But more commonly it was required that one’s parents were citizens too. . . .” R. Po-chia Hsia & Henk F. K. van Nierop, Calvinism and Religious Toleration in the Dutch Golden Age 161 (2002). “One’s parents” would necessarily included one’s mother and father. This Dutch law is consistent with Vattel’s definition of what is a “natural born citizen.” Apart from the heavy Dutch influence upon the Founders, when the Framers drafted the Constitution, they relied heavily upon Vattel to guide them. Citizenship was a topic that affected U.S. relations with other nations. Given that citizenship affects “the behavior of nation states with each other” (Sosa v. Alvarez-Machain, 542 U.S. 692 (2004), the Founders would have looked to the law of nations to define it for the purposes of the new nation. The law of nations definition on citizenship also gave uniformity to the subject area, which the Framers wanted to achieve for citizenship laws as they did for naturalization laws. Gibbons v. Ogden, 22 U.S. 1, 36 (Wheat) (1824). They would therefore have referred to and accepted Vattel’s law of nations definition to give meaning to what an Article II “natural born Citizen” was. The meaning of a “natural born Citizen” as expressed by Vattel, including that both parents of the child must be citizens at the time of the child’s birth in order to make the child a “natural born Citizen,” was carried forward in American history following the Founding. The standard provided by Vattel has not changed in our jurisprudence and is still valid today as it was during the Founding. Also, the Fourteenth Amendment has not changed the meaning of a “natural born Citizen.” Legislative activity by the early Congresses provides insight into the question of whether Vattel required one or two parents to be citizens. There are Congressional acts that were passed after the Constitution was adopted that give us insight into what the Framers of the Constitution meant by “natural born Citizen.” The 1790 Congress, many of whose members had been members of the Constitutional Convention, passed the Naturalization Act of 1790 (1 Stat.103,104) which provided that “And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.” This phrasing followed the literal terms of British statutes, beginning in 1350, under which persons born abroad, whose parents were both British subjects, would enjoy the same rights of inheritance as those born in England; beginning with laws in 1709 and 1731, these statutes expressly provided that such persons were natural-born subjects of the crown.” The Naturalization Act of 1790 declared these children to be “natural born Citizens,” but only retrospectively. See Weedin v. Chin Bow, 274 U.S. 657 (1927). It is interesting to note that George Washington was president of the Constitutional Convention and President of the United States when this bill became law and if he had disagreed with the two U.S. citizen-parent requirement, he could have vetoed this bill. One would then at first think that this legislation strongly suggests that the Framers of the Constitution understood this phrase to refer to citizenship acquired from both of the child’s parents at birth, regardless of whether or not that birth had taken place in the United States. This statute shows what role the parents played in the minds of the early founders. While only retrospectively, the First Congress was willing to declare a child born out of the United States to two United States parents a “natural born Citizen.” This was not consistent with what Vattel wrote in The Law of Nations of Principles of Natural Law, at Sec. 215. Children of citizens, born in a foreign country, where he declared these children just “citizens” and not “natural born citizens”: “It is asked, whether the children born of citizens in a foreign country are citizens? By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (Sec. 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and cannot of itself furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has given him; I say ‘of itself,’ for civil or political laws may, for particular reasons, ordain otherwise. . . .” (emphasis supplied). Clearly, Vattel addressed the question of whether these children are “citizens,” not “natural born citizen.” He does not address the question of whether they are “natural born citizens” because according to his own definition, a child had to be born “in the country” in order to be a “natural born citizen.” Being born abroad and therefore not “in the country,” such a child could not be a “natural born citizen.” In this connection and as an aside which applies to the question of whether Senator McCain is an Article II “natural born Citizen,” it should be noted that according to Vattel, being physically born out of the country did not necessarily mean that one was not born “in the country.” Vattel explained that if a child was born “in the armies of the state,” that child was “reputed born in the country; for a citizen, who is absent with his family on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.” Vattel, Sec. 217. Since this child would have been born in the foreign “armies of the state,” he would normally not be granted citizenship in the country in which he was physically born. Additionally, the country on whose soil the child might be born might adhere to a jus sanguinis system of conferring citizenship (meaning that born on its soil alone would not confer citizenship and therefore allegiance and loyalty on the child). Being born under those conditions, this child would therefore be born with sole allegiance to the country of his parents and would qualify as a “natural born citizen” of that country. While the 1790 act naturalized all “persons” and so included women, it also declared that “the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States….” This prevented the automatic grant of citizenship to children born abroad whose mother, but not father, had resided in the United States. Citizenship was inherited exclusively through the father. As we have seen above, Congress did not remove the inequity until 1934. This focus on the father as the source of citizenship (but not meaning that the status of the mother was not considered) is consistent with what Vattel wrote in Section 212 of The Law of Nations. This is further evidence that the Framers relied upon Vattel in defining citizenship for the new Republic. In 1795 the Congress passed the Naturalization Act of 1795 which removed the words “natural born” from the term “natural born citizen” and thereby just left “citizens” as the status to be given to children born out of the United States. The fact that the 1790 Act as written was short lived and was only retrospective shows that Congress just wanted to make certain persons born abroad during the early years of the Republic “natural born Citizen” so that they could be eligible to be President. This sort of special allowance was comparable to the grandfather clause of Article II which allowed a “citizen” to be President provided that he was such at the time of the adoption of the Constitution which the Framers in 1790 knew occurred in 1789. It seems that the Third Congress passed this amendment to the 1790 Act to clarify for those living at that time who was and who was not a “natural born Citizen” per the Framers intent at that time, since the 1790 Act had introduced confusion into that subject regarding the use of those special words as found in Article II. United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 714 (1898) (Fuller, C.J., dissenting) (statute “passed out of abundant caution to obviate misunderstandings” about the citizenship status of foreign-born children of Americans). It is again important to note that George Washington was also President in 1795, making him aware of this change by the Third Congress. If he disagreed with the clarification and change in the wording in the new 1795 Act, he would have vetoed it. The 1790 and 1795 Acts are contemporaneous evidence of who the Framers meant to include as “natural born Citizens.” Pryor, The Natural-Born Citizen Clause and Presidential Eligibility: An Approach for Resolving Two Hundred Years of Uncertainty, 97 Yale L.J. 881 (1988). Subsequent Supreme Court cases have stated that in interpreting the Constitution, we must look to the common law that the Framers accepted at the time of the Founding. There is strong historical evidence that the Framers in constituting the new Constitutional Republic rejected the English common law and accepted the new federal common law which emanated from the law of nations. On this subject, see my article included at this blog entitled, The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law as U.S. Federal Common Law Not English Common Law Define What an Article II Natural Born Citizen Is. Indeed, as we will see below, our Supreme Court adopted that definition when defining a “natural born Citizen” and thereby incorporated it into U.S. federal common law. The definition and two-parent requirement has been reiterated by the Supreme Court and other courts in the cases of The Venus, 12U.S. 253(1814), Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 242 (1830), Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1856), Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875) , Ex parte Reynolds, 20 F. Cas. 582 (C.C.W.D. Ark 1879), United States v. Ward, 42 F. 320 (1890); Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), and Ludlam, Excutrix, & c., v. Ludlam, 26 N.Y. 356 (1863). It has also been confirmed by renowned legislators, including Senator Trumbull, the author of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and Representative John A. Bingham, the architect of the 14th Amendment to our Constitution. In the case of The Venus 12 U.S. 253, 289 (1814), Justice John Marshall said: “Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says ‘The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.’” Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857), did not directly deal with Article II “natural born Citizen.” But there are parts of the Dred Scott decision that are relevant to the question of what is a “natural born Citizen.” The case clearly defines “natural born citizen.” While as repugnant as slavery was and still is, no court or amendment has over turned the meaning of “natural born citizen” from Dred Scott. The main point is that in deciding what a “citizen” was in 1817, both the majority and dissent went back to 1787 to examine what the Framers and the people of that time considered a “citizen” to be. The Court said that the Constitution must be understood now as it was understood at the time it was written. The judges did not disagree that one had to look back to the Founding Fathers. What they disagreed on is what the public opinion was at that time as to whether a freed slave was a citizen. In this regard, we know that the case was overruled by the Thirteenth Amendment. As to the “natural born Citizen” clause, the Court said: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights. Again: I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .” Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393, 476-77 (1857). As can be seen from the quoted language, the Court actually removed from the Vattel’s definition the reference to “fathers” and “father” and replaced it with “parents” and “person,” thus showing that it is not just one parent (the father) that needs to be a citizen, but the “parents,” i.e., both mother and father. Also, both Vattel and the Court state that “if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” The controlling language is “a foreigner.” In the English language, the letter “a” is an indefinite article meaning one. Hence, the use of the word “a” shows that only one is required. We know that a child has both a mother and father and the “a” would necessarily refer to either the mother or father. Surely, if the child were born of one parent who was not a citizen, he would be “born there of a foreigner,” who would be either his foreign mother or father. As can be seen, it is our United States Supreme Court that has made this reading and interpretation of Vattel. This understanding of Vattel is not only correct but also binding upon us. Chief Justice Waite, in Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875), stated: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.” Here we can see that the U.S. Supreme Court in all three of these cases adopted Vattel’s definition of what a “natural born Citizen” is, and specifically repeated his two U.S.-parent test. Dred Scott even removed the word “father” and replaced it with the word “parents.” The Civil Rights Act of 1866 (Act of April 9, 1866) first established a national law that provided: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.” Civil Rights Act of April 9, 1866 (14 Stat. 27). Not being subject to a foreign power includes being free from any political and military obligations to any other nation and not owing any other nation direct and immediate allegiance and loyalty. The primary author of this Act was Senator Trumbull who said it was his intention “to make citizens of everybody born in the United States who owe allegiance to the United States.” Additionally, he added if a “negro or white man belonged to a foreign Government he would not be a citizen.” In order for this requirement to be satisfied, clearly both parents of the child must be U.S. citizens, for if one is not, the child would inherit the foreign allegiance and loyalty of foreign parent and would thereby “belong to a foreign Government.” Rep. John A. Bingham, who later became the chief architect of the 14th Amendment’s first section, in commenting upon Section 1992 of the Civil Rights Act, said that the Act was “simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen” (emphasis supplied). Rep. Bingham said “parents.” He did not say “one parent” or “a mother or father.” Now let us turn to the Fourteenth Amendment. Senator Trumbull, when commenting on that Amendment declared: “The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.” Sen. Howard added: “the word jurisdiction, as here employed, ought to be construed so as to imply a full and complete jurisdiction on the part of the United States, coextensive in all respects with the constitutional power of the United States, whether exercised by Congress, by the executive, or by the judicial department; that is to say, the same jurisdiction in extent and quality as applies to every citizen of the United States now.” On May 30, 1866, Senator Howard continued: “This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Govern- of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.” Congressional Globe, 39th Congress, 1st Session, May 30, 1866, P. 2890, col. 2. Again, only if the both parents of the child were citizens at the time of birth could the child be subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States, not owe allegiance to any foreign power, and not be a person “born in the United States who are foreigners [or aliens].” There then followed Supreme Court cases that discussed citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment. In The Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36, 73 (1873), in discussing the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment’s citizenship clause said: “[t]he phrase, ‘subject to its jurisdiction’ was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.” Even the dissenting opinion affirmed that the citizenship clause was designed to assure that all persons born within the United States were both citizens of the United States and the state in which they resided, provided they were not at the time of birth subjects of any foreign power. Again, only if both parents of the child were citizens at the time of birth could the child not be considered a citizen or subject of a foreign State born within the United States, be subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States, and not be subject to any foreign power. In Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94, the Supreme Court specifically addressed what is meant by “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” and held: “The persons declared to be citizens are ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’ The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.” Only if the child’s both parents were citizens at the time of birth could the child be “completely subject to their [U.S.] political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), did not address what an Article II “natural born Citizen” is. Rather, the Supreme Court there gave a new, divergent, and incorrect interpretation of the “subject to the jurisdiction” clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and vetoed the will of the People and their Legislature to declare Wong a U.S. “citizen” under the unique circumstances of that case. While the case did approvingly cite Minor v. Happersett, since the case only dealt with what is a Fourteenth Amendment “citizen,” the case cannot in any event be used to explain what the Founders meant by Article II’s “natural born Citizen” clause. Justice Antonin Scalia, during his address to the 2008 Annual National Lawyers Convention on November 22, 2008, at the Mayflower Hotel, in Washington, D.C., gave three reasons in ascending order (the last being the most compelling) which would serve justification for overturning a prior case: how wrong was it, i.e., was it blatantly and malicious improperly decided ; how well has the public accepted the case; and did the decision cast the Court as a policy maker rather than an interpreter of the law. Given that the Wong Court did not give Congress and the Executive the wide deference that they deserve in exercising its immigration and naturalization powers (Nguyen v. INS, 533 U.S. 53, 121 S.Ct. 2053; 150 L.Ed.2d 115 (2001) and the Scalia factors, the Wong decision is a prime candidate for reversal. The development in the formative years of a child’s minority of a relationship between citizen parents and their child is essential to the child’s ties and allegiance to the United States. Nguyen v. INS, 533 U.S. 53, 121 S.Ct. 2053; 150 L.Ed.2d 115 (2001) (addressing the importance of the tie between a child and his U.S. citizen father before the child’s 18th birthday as a crucial ingredient in the child attaching and owing allegiance to the United States and that the U.S. government has a “profound” important interest and objective in promoting that link; showing that a child must meet all statutory preconditions [would also mean constitutional requirements] no matter how much one may deem them to be unfair or onerous in order to be bestowed U.S. citizenship). But we have seen that United States Supreme Court case law, the early 1790 and 1795 Naturalization Acts, legislative history of the Civil Rights Act of the 1866, and the Fourteenth Amendment all conclusively show that Vattel was understood to say that both parents had to be citizens in order for a child to be a “natural born Citizen.” The Founders, our Supreme Court, Congress, and framers of the Fourteenth Amendment all adopted Vattel’s law of nations definition and two-parent requirement and made it part of Article II, United States citizenship federal common law, the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and the Fourteenth Amendment, respectively. It also would not make sense to allow just one U.S. citizen parent to be sufficient, for each parent has just as much influence as the other on his or her child. The purpose of Article II’s “natural born Citizen” clause is to exclude foreign influence from the Office of President and Commander in Chief. It “cuts off all chances for ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interposes a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments . . .” Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 3:Sec 1472-73 (1833). Remember that Vattel said that if a child is born on a nation’s soil to a non-citizen father (meaning parents), that place “will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” Article II’s “natural born Citizen” clause looks only to the moment of birth and not thereafter. This interpretation is consistent with Jay’s underlining the word “born” in his 1787 letter to General (later President) Washington. In other words, to meet that special Presidential eligibility requirement, one must be born a “natural born Citizen” and cannot acquire that status later in life. Under the British Nationality Act 1948, when Obama was born in 1961 his father was a British subject/citizen and Obama himself was a British subject/citizen by descent from his father. Under the British Nationality Act 1981, today Obama can still be a British Overseas Citizen (BOC). See my April 7, 2009 article on this topic at this blog entitled, Obama, the President of the U.S., Is Currently Also a British Citizen. Hence, when Obama was born he failed to meet the two-U.S.-citizen-parent test which caused him to be born subject to a foreign power. See my article at this blog entitled, Being Born Subject to a Foreign Power, Obama Cannot be President and Military Commander. It is inescapable that Obama is not and cannot be an Article II “natural born Citizen” and is therefore not eligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. 185 Gatzmer Avenue Jamesburg, NJ 08831 9-8-09 Posted by Puzo1 at 12:10 AM 25 comments Labels: Apuzzo, constitutional eligibility president, dual nationality, Mark S. McGrew, natural born citizen, Natural Law, Obama, The Law of Nations, Vattel Monday, August 31, 2009 Being Born Subject to a Foreign Power, Obama Cannot be President and Military Commander Having just won a revolution, the Founders were faced with constituting a new nation. Under the constitutional plan devised by the Founders, they had to identify who were the members of the new nation. They called these members “citizens” of the United States. Thus, they created our first generation of United States “citizens.” These persons were either born abroad or in the British colonies before July 4, 1776 or abroad or in the new States thereafter, but in all cases inhabited one of the colonies or States and were loyal to the American revolution. The Founders under Article II grandfathered these original “citizens” to be eligible to be President. Under this plan, once the new nation had its first generation “citizens,” it was placed in position to have in the future its Article II “natural born Citizens,” who would be born in the United States after the adoption of the Constitution and descend from mothers and fathers who were both original “citizens.” Given that America was already a land of immigrants and that the Founders expected that many more immigrants would come to its shores in search of a new life and to share in its vast resources, they gave Congress in Article I, Sec. 8, cl. 4 the power to naturalize aliens and thereby create more future first generation United States “citizens.” Having become a naturalized “citizen,” one would then be in a position to procreate with another “citizen” (born or similarly naturalized) a “natural born Citizen” who would be eligible to be President. Throughout American history, there have been no doubts or disputes as to who is a “natural born Citizen.” As we have seen, it was not English common law but the law of nations that became United States common law that defined a “natural born Citizen.” It defined such a citizen as being born in the country to parents who are themselves citizens. It is this definition which our United States Supreme Court incorporated into our federal common law. It is this definition that creates subsequent generation “citizens” who are “natural born Citizens.” They are subsequent generation because born in the country to a mother and father who are citizens. On the other hand, throughout our history, there have been doubts and disputes as to who may be a born “citizen” (as distinguished from a “natural born Citizen” or a naturalized citizen). These disputes have concerned the question of whether to be a “citizen,” must a child be simply born on U.S. soil and be subject to its jurisdiction, without any reference to the citizenship of the parents (jus soli which follows the old English common law), or must that child also be born to U.S. citizen parents (jus soli and jus sanguinis united which follows the law of nations’ definition and which any way only applies to “natural born citizens”). This dispute has concerned the question of whether we should declare a child a first generation “citizen” (in effect having the same status as one of the original first generation “citizens” which Article II grandfathered to be eligible to be President). The dispute has not been with whether we should declare that child a subsequent generation “natural born Citizen.” The Fourteenth Amendment settled who could be a “citizen” by bestowing such status upon those born in the United States or naturalized here and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. “Citizens” who meet this Fourteenth Amendment definition can be either first or subsequent generation United States “citizens.” If first generation, they are simply “citizens.” If subsequent generation, they are not only “citizens” but also “natural born Citizens.” Congress has also declared who may be a born “citizen” through legislation and has thereby not only confirmed what is already stated in the Fourteenth Amendment but has also granted citizenship to children born out of the United States to U.S. citizen parents (one or two). Senator McCain, being born in Panama, falls into the two United States-parent category. The question of whether foreign-born children, born to two United States parents and thus falling in this category (by definition they would be subsequent generation “citizens” but not born in the United States) are “natural born Citizens” has not been resolved by any Court. If such a child were born to just one United States citizen parent, he or she would not only acquire the allegiance and loyalty of the nation on whose soil he or she may be born but also that of his or her foreign parent’s nation and thereby further compromise his or her claim for “natural born Citizen” status. A study of citizenship and nationality case law, statutes, treatises, and other sources shows that one acquires allegiance and loyalty through citizenship. Obama has admitted that under the British Nationality Act 1948 when he was born, his father was a British subject/citizen and not a U.S. citizen and that he himself was a British subject/citizen by descent from his father. Therefore, what is clear and established by his own factual admissions is that Obama cannot satisfy the definition of an Article II “natural born Citizen,” for he was born with allegiance and loyalty not only to the United States (assuming he was born here) but to the same degree also to Great Britain. The best that Obama can be is a Fourteenth Amendment “citizen,” assuming that he was born in the United States and assuming that one born subject to a foreign power can also be born subject to the full and complete legal and political jurisdiction of the United States. In such a case, he would be a subsequent generation “citizen” through his American mother but only a first generation “citizen” because of his foreign father. If Obama was not born in the United States or if being born in the United States he was not born subject to its jurisdiction, then he is not even a “citizen” under the Fourteenth Amendment or any applicable Congressional Act. Hence, we can see that Obama is missing the mandatory Article II constitutional status of being at a minimum a second generation “citizen” through both a citizen mother and citizen father. What creates further allegiance and loyalty problems for Obama is that his birthright British citizenship, which continues in effect until today, also allowed him to gain Kenyan citizenship from the age of 2 to the age of 21 or 23. Being 47 years old when he was elected, just his Kenyan allegiance and loyalty occupied him for almost one-half of his then life span. It is Obama’s being only a first generation U.S. citizen because of his father not being a United States citizen at Obama’s birth that caused his divided allegiance and loyalty at birth (United States v. British and Kenyan) and disqualifies him to be President and Commander in Chief. It is through his father that Obama was born with allegiance and loyalty to Great Britain (which continues until today), which then converted to allegiance and loyalty to Kenya. It does not matter that his mother was a United States citizen because at birth Obama inherited allegiance and loyalty to a foreign power (Great Britain) from his father just as he would have inherited allegiance and loyalty to a foreign power if born to parents who were both non-United States citizens. By Obama’s mother being a United States citizen at his birth, Obama was just spared acquiring even another foreign allegiance and loyalty. Just like a naturalized citizen who–despite taking an oath renouncing all foreign allegiances and loyalties and which incidentally Obama has never done–cannot be President because he or she is born with allegiance and loyalty to a foreign country, Obama, born with allegiance and loyalty to a foreign country, also cannot be President. All this leads to the inescapable conclusion that Obama is not an Article II “natural born Citizen” and is therefore ineligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. 185 Gatzmer Avenue Jamesburg, New Jersey 08831 Blog: http://puzo1.blogspot.com
  238. The South-

    Yeah, I can see similar headlines in my crystal ball, also.

  239. Sorry….I didn’t mean to post all of these articles at Mario’s site….just the first one about Judge Land….they are all good though….go to his site to read them…..the print is bigger and leave your comments!

  240. Jacqlyn-

    You just blew up computer with that post – LOL – just kiddin’. Good info.

  241. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/20/was-he-lying-then-or-is-he-lying-now/#more-33149

    Was he lying then or now? Does it matter?

    How else are the commanders in chief (there are many, Obama not a large player) going to introduce unprecedented, hostile unfamiliar policies, over an accelerated period of time, that will leave Americans poorer, more defenceless, with fewer resources and above all with absolute loss of freedom.

    Krauthammer is right. Lying is not a sophisticated enough word. Equivocating might capture it better. But you have to go further.

    Only some changes will be exposed for public debate. The more important ones will never see the light of die. One day you’ll wake up and it will all be in place. Is that lying? Well sort of.
    How about misrepresentation on a scale not yet recognized by mankind. Does this sound too catacylsmic? I pray it does.

  242. Nancy-Blago is not kidding-As a former Chicagoan this is what I think he is trying to say. Yes, when I was governor I did some “bad” stuff, but you guys used me and I know you were doing a hell of a lot worse. Now, you are trying to hang me out to dry, while pretending that you are angels on Earth. He can rat them all out, but at the rate things are going-get in line Blago. So much corruption, so little time.

  243. That’s a great article, Jacqlyn. Thanks for the post!

    Have ya’ll seen this? You’ll LOVE the comment about the birth certificate ;-)!

    Seen at http://www.oilforimmigration.org

  244. Linda from NY // September 20, 2009 at 10:01 am

    I have not watched TV since January of 2008. We canceled our newspaper due to its biased coverage as well.

    No tv here since May, no newspapers, or magazines either……….squelch the media..hit them in the pocketbooks…

  245. I’ll post later after I get caught up in all the
    reading here from where I left off yesterday–
    dang you guys have been verbose!

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    Nancy // September 20, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Jacqlyn-

    You just blew up computer with that post – LOL – just kiddin’. Good info.
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    Sorry Nancy….I guess my cut and paste finger stayed on the keys a little too long!! LOL 🙂

  247. Alex // September 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    That’s a great article, Jacqlyn. Thanks for the post!

    Have ya’ll seen this? You’ll LOVE the comment about the birth certificate 😉 !********************************************

    Yes Alex….I did see that YouTube…someone here posted it on a different post before this one!

  248. is orly’s site up? I have tried all week and it was hacked.

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    trish // September 20, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    is orly’s site up? I have tried all week and it was hacked.
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    Trish try this….

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

  250. Another letter to Land at Orly’s site!
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    From veteran Art Olsewski to judge Land
    September 20th, 2009

    455 Jayson Ave.

    Pittsburgh, Pa 15228

    9/18/09

    Judge Clay Land

    Middle District Court

    120 !2th St.

    Box 124

    Columbus, Ga. 31902

    Ref: Captain Rhodes Case

    Dear Judge Land,

    Your action in the above mentioned case was nothing short of disgraceful. It lacked honesty and integrity It appears you sold your soul to the devil.

    Not only did you ignore several provisions and statutes, but you completely disregarded the plaintiffs evidence. You didn’t address the fact that an independent investigator researched Obama’s background and found at least 35 SSN, that a Kenyan birth certificate was introduced with a sworn declaration as to it’s validity, and that Obama’s own fake birth certificate, provided by another expert, was ignored…You then tried to relate back to the primaries and election and say that others would have researched Rhodes claims. This is bogus in that most of the current info wasn’t known at the earlier time. In addition. your rational is also faulty in that you can’t use info from an from earlier events to prove the crimes of Obama. It’s just like trying to introduce evidence from a criminal’s earlier crime when he commits another crime. Your job was to listen to the current evidence and act on it

    Instead of worrying about Alice in Wonderland , You created a nightmare..

    Sincerely

    Art Olszewski

  251. venice, I just have to say on the lying word….when wilson yelled LIE to O I thought that squirrel pelosi’s head was going to start spinning and she was going to spit out green pea soup! I still chuckle when I think about that.

  252. Third Party

    Thanks for all the feedback I appreciate it. Remember all movements and parties started probably from a discussion or idea and grew from there. Also remember when Phil Berg filed a case Aug last year most of us thought he was a “NUT” and look where we are now.

    I am not saying that in 2010 or 2012 but maybe after that we can have a strong alternative that Represents the MAJORITY citizenry Christian Constitutionalist Coalition for now we live within what exists as we grow and organize. If teh New Party and the Communist can do so can we. The Whig Party became extinct and so too should the Political Pigs Party (Democrat & Republican). Time for REAL CHANGE back to what used to work. Back to getting closer to God we have allowed this country to drift to far away from God that nicely gave us a great gift.

    A Journey starts with a first step. I wrote that quickly this AM but I am sure it can be greatly enhanced on the same principles and maybe others.

    Lets keep working at it.

    Who would think last Nov election and Jan Installation of BO that we would have 2,000,000 in DC?

    We abort millions per year, future workers, and then allow illegals workers to come in to fill that void. We can’t continue on thissi track of selfish sinful irresponsibility…it is unsustainable as it is shown in the IMPORTANT VIDEO. We need to stop the Erosionists. The greatest thing and possibly the only reason we are born is to reproduce leave a good footprint (oofspring) and die.

    Open your Eyes.

    Time to Rise Up, Stand Up and Grow Up and closer to God and Personal Responsibility.

  253. Alex // September 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Hysterical, Alex-thanks (gotta go change my Depends, now).

  254. http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/
    Andrea Shea King
    Sunday, September 20, 2009
    YOU EXTREMIST BLOGGERS. IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT.
    Good morning, all you hateful extremist raaaacist bloggers and twitterers!
    CBS released a snippet of President Obama’s interview tomorrow on Face the Nation.
    He blamed blogs and cable news for driving passions and not his radical agenda:

  255. Michelle // September 20, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Ya know, Michelle, if he wasn’t so pathetic, he’d be funny.

    What? He didn’t blame Bush, too? Tsk, tsk….

  256. This is an interesting email that I received this am. I am glad that the truth is being passed around.

    A HISTORY LESSON:

    While this is pretty obvious to any who read, the amazing thing is how it has been spun to confuse those who don’t read.

    If there is anyone out there who doesn’t know, this is an excellent visual.

    Now don’t be mad at old people, just remember who did this…….

    Franklin Delano. Roosevelt
    32nd. President, Democrat
    Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945
    GO TO HERE !
    Our Social Security
    Franklin Delano. Roosevelt (Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945), a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He Promised:

    1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,
    2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
    3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program would be deductible from Their income for tax purposes each year,
    4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would Only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and
    5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income..
    Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘Put Away’ — you may be interested in the following:

    ———-THEN—————————————————

    Dwight David Eisenhower
    34th. President, Republican,
    Term Of Office: January 20, 1953 to January 20, 1961
    Insert by Vincent Peter Render,

    If I recall correctly, 1958 is the first year that Congress, not President Eisenhower, voted to remove funds from Social Security and put it into the General Fund for Congress to spend.
    If I recall correctly, it was a democratically controlled Congress.
    From what I understand, Congress logic at that time was that there was so much money in Social Security Fund that it would never run out / be used up for the purpose it was intended / set aside for.

    ————-WORSE STILL————————————————

    Lyndon Baines Johnson 36th. President, Democrat
    Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969

    Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it?

    Answer: It was Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, Term of Office: November 22,1963 to January 20, 1969) and the democratically Controlled House and Senate.

    ——————————————————————–
    Question: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security
    (FICA) withholding?
    Answer: The Democratic Party.
    ———————————————————————–

    William Jefferson Clinton
    (Bill Clinton)
    42nd. President
    Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

    Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
    (Al Gore)
    45th. Vice President

    Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

    Question: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
    Answer: The Democratic Party, with Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al Gore) [Vice President Term of Office: January 10, 1993 to January 20, 2001] casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US …

    ——————THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL’S BACK !!————————————————-

    James Earl Carter, Jr
    (Jimmy Carter)
    39th President, Democrat
    Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981

    Question: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity payments to immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    ANSWER: That’s right! JAMES EARL CARTER, JR. ( JIMMY CARTER) (DEMOCRAT, TERM OF OFFICE: JANUARY 20, 1977 TO JANUARY 20, 1981 AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

    IMMIGRANTS MOVED INTO THIS COUNTRY, AND AT AGE 65, BEGAN TO RECEIVE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY GAVE THESE PAYMENTS TO THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER PAID A DIME INTO IT!

    “Damn”, have you ever seen a Jack-ass eating briers…!

    ———————————————————————-

    Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

    And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

    If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of Awareness will be planted and maybe changes WILL evolve!
    Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so. But it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

    Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.
    AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!

    ———————————————————————-

    Thomas Jefferson
    3rd. President, Democrat
    Term of Office: January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781

    “A government big enough to give you everything you want,

    is strong enough to take everything you have”.
    Thomas Jefferson

  257. http://www.americasright.com/

    Very timely and important well-written article describing parallels to the Reichstag fire, Germany 1933.

  258. The BIGGER Picture – for those interested.

    Z. Brzezinski’s (Obama’s official handler) “off the record speech to British Elites” – 5 videos (approx 10 min ea) – given latter part of 2008. I’m sure you all know Obama was groomed while at Columbia by this man. As hard as it was to listen to these, it’s even more obvious Obama is an empty suit!

    How this man infiltrated our country and subsequently our government is most disturbing.

    Part 1

    Part 2

    Part 3

    Part 4

    Part 5

    Webster Griffin Tarpley provides further insight into these big players and their control of Bush and now Obama. If you’re interested, YouTube has a number of his videos. He covers Brzezinski and Obama’s relationship in depth.

  259. Civis & Peter
    My approach would be to develop planks in parties that gain consensus and unlike what we have today whereby the candidates stray from the planks in their respective parties a system to legally bind the candidates to their avowed party planks needs to be developed.
    What we have now are systems in political parties,our legislative branches at both levels that are not practicing enforcement. The principles of rule of law & enforcement need to be rigidly applied. This to me is the problem. The “honor system” is failing us in regards to our elected officials. My motto would be PURGE,BIND,ENFORCE!

  260. Uglies Zbig and Soros need to take a dirt nap.

  261. Michelle-

    I beleive what you say wholeheartedly. My sister has live about 1 your away from Chicago in Hinckley, IL, as a teacher (now retired) for about 25 years. She concurs what you say. She & her husband just bought a house in Arizona.
    They are fed up.

  262. Make my post 1 hour away.

  263. Peter @ 4:25
    You are in lockstep with me in your concerns and seem to understand the full implications of demographics..many do not get that yet.I believe as urgency increases more people will become politicized just to survive as they begin to realize everything is at stake. Through this the education and awareness of very pressing issues like Islamicism/immigration,demographics,rule of law and moral instability will get more exposure.The political parties will thus be reformed and cleaned through more participation. I really believe that they were corropted through large majorities of apathetic Americans not understanding the gravity of what was in store for them.

  264. TO:
    joyceaz // September 20, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    This is an interesting email that I received this am. I am glad that the truth is being passed around.

    A HISTORY LESSON:
    =========================

    Thanks for this great info BUT you have a Historical Mistake I believe.

    How could Jefferson be President in 1777 when Washington was our first president and he was elected in 1789?

  265. Michelle wrote:

    “Michelle // September 20, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/
    Andrea Shea King
    Sunday, September 20, 2009
    YOU EXTREMIST BLOGGERS. IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT.
    Good morning, all you hateful extremist raaaacist bloggers and twitterers!
    CBS released a snippet of President Obama’s interview tomorrow on Face the Nation.
    He blamed blogs and cable news for driving passions and not his radical agenda:”

    You know, it always seems like Barack Hussein Obama is always (sorry to say that twice) protecting his weakest area, and that is his ineligibility. He won’t come right out and say, “Hey, those Birthers are trying to take away my fake presidency – they work at it day and night and they never stooooooooooooooop!”

    No, Soetoro uses code: “blogs” and “cable news.” I know that these two sources talk about other things. But it is the illegitimacy story that is going to take him down. Barry knows it, and he tries to get people to steer clear of where our worrisome words are. 😉

    I can feel another one of his “slips” coming, like the “stupid” slip, or the “Special Olympics” slip, or the “57 states” slip…you know what I mean. What with these court cases piling up, his narcissistic self has got to be BOILING mad AND afraid!!

  266. PR,…… I only posted from the email,….. I am sorry if some things were incorrect. I guess I didn’t check for incorrect dates. SORRY.
    I will be more investigative next time.
    Joyce

  267. A few days ago HRC was speaking on a prerecorded thing,and stated ” Islam is exactly what everyone in the US believes.” It has been obvious to me for a very long time that she is a true LEFTY MORON, but now I am forced to add her to my list of total JACKASSES. In addition she now tries to speak for all Americans whether she knows them or not. SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME. This sort of behavior is on a par with MMMSSS. Pelosi. Harry Reid etc. I will take a very personal satisfaction watching both of them receive their walking papers in 2010.

  268. Patriot Dreamer

    Did Bill Ayers Help Obama Get Into Harvard?
    by Jack Cashill, Ph.D.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/did_ayers_help_obama_get_into.html

  269. Have you all seen this….here is that Brezinski character again…

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/09/brezinski_calls_for_obama_to_s.asp

  270. I can’t say there is one politician of any
    party who speaks for me. This is a sad moment
    in our nation’s history.

  271. Really getting bad folks, we have to get the news from foreign countries now.

    Barack Obama ready to slash US nuclear arsenal

    Pentagon told to map out radical cuts as president prepares to chair UN talks

    This Kenyan Madman is going to get us killed.

    Time to get on the Governors and demand they shut this monster down fast………..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/20/barack-obama-us-nuclear-weapons

  272. I have read all the postings on this thread.
    There is no way I’m going to make any recommendations about Orly’s case and who
    is doing what from where and maybe this or that.
    None of us are directly involved to be able
    to criticize anyone’s actions. We can only hope
    that Orly continues to do her best and that is
    all we can hope for. It is her endeavor and we
    are supportive BUT not directly involved.

    We will all have to wait and see and stop with
    all the guessing in all directions—that’s what
    it appears to me.

  273. Kathleen Sebelius as Tort Reformer?

    Eyebrows have been raised at President Obama’s decision to let Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius lead his inquiry into how best to reduce costly medical malpractice lawsuits.

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/09/sebelius-as-tort-reformer/

  274. Steele, Obama and the race card

    Michael Steele Injects Race Into Obama’s NY Gov Request

  275. Video: Chris Cillizza: Van Jones and ACORN stories “suggest we better pay attention” to Beck and Hannity

    http://www.mofopolitics.com/2009/09/20/video-chris-cillizza-van-jones-and-acorn-stories/

  276. Patriot Dreamer

    Mark Levin interview with Stephen A. Smith (great interview!)

  277. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    CNN:”we need massive voter disobedience to the 2 main parties…or at least we need to infiltrate both…

    We could field constitutionalists in both primaries, and that way drain the funds of both parties and give better chance of puttingconstitutionalists in all kinds of districts…”

    Wow! YES! WE need to choose the candidates WE want. Enough of this controlled choice stuff. What deals, compromises, and sellouts (of the people) have already occurred JUST for those candidates to get that far?
    We voters need to exercise our power to make our government about principled governance instead of about politics.
    My list of preferred candidates starts with proven patriots those leading lawsuits, tea parties, citizens’ juries, NET media, etc. I would nominate C.W. in a flash.
    Same list for appointed offices.
    We have the right to be governed by the leaders WE want. “Massive voter disobedience” sounds like just the ticket!!

  278. SueK: (wow: 299 comments as I log in…and hope my question doesn’t get buried…):
    ——————————————————-
    I wanted to ask you if you think/believe that the ‘regular’ flu shots being given at VA (maybe different from ones offered at the chain drug stores?) is the same one with the MF59?…or might it be the ‘pre-one’ that brings on symptoms that makes the ‘real’ (bad) one “mandatory”?
    ——————————————————
    gotta go…I’m guessing there will be a new thread up by the next chance I get to check back for your answer.
    ——————————————————-
    Some are celebrating Rosh Hoshana today, I think? On the feast calendar it would correspond with the first of the two days of The Feast of Trumpets…when, if you align the two with what has been fortold…might also be the sounding of the trumpet for “The Horn of my Salvation!”
    —————————————————–
    “look up!” the King is coming SOON!….
    are you looking for his appearing?

  279. ACORN has changed names to Community Organizers International. Yes I did post this before…but the best way to learn a name is to keep repeating it and using it in a sentence!

    http://acorninternational.org/

  280. Patriot Dreamer // September 20, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Hi PD,

    Thanks for posting this clip.

    Mr. Smith is remarkable…..he certainly gets it! Why don’t others get it?

  281. O open to the Democrat proposal to officially subsidize–aka takeover–the news industry

    http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2009/09/20/obama-i-think-i-could-use/

  282. Whoever you decide to vote for, make sure they are willing to “END THE FED”!

    You want to find out what kind of politician they are? Just ask them if they are willing to support ending the Federal Reserve.

    Not very many members of Congress are willing to even address this. Why? Because they are either ignorant of the subject, or …..

    They are afraid for their lives, and won’t go against the Federal Reserve Banking Cartel.

    If they don’t fully support ending the FED, don’t bother with them, as it will just be politics as usual.

  283. Re-do // September 20, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Hey Re-do,

    And I *didn’t* post all 299 comments :).

    I have no info that the seasonal flu shots contain MF59, but that doesn’t mean they don’t. Truth be told, we don’t know what the hell’s in there this year.

    My source tells me that, and I quote, ‘The H1N1 shot’s base is the same as the seasonal flu shot’s base and that’s been proven to be safe.’ I trust that this is true (i.e., manufactured the same way, with chix eggs) but you’re right-you’ve gotta wonder if the seasonal shots are a primer for the pig shots.

    Please keep in mind that *no* vaccine in the U.S. is approved to contain MF59 (squalene) but that doesn’t mean it can’t be snuck in there.

    I’m in that group for which the seasonal flu shot is mandatory, but I think I’ll be passing on it this year.

    Will check more on your question when I get to work tomorrow, and see if I can find an answer. ‘Official’ sources will probably say ‘no MF59 in the seasonal shots.’ In fact, I’d bet on it!

    I’ll get back to ya as soon as I have something…

  284. Patriot Dreamer

    twe // September 20, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    O open to the Democrat proposal to officially subsidize–aka takeover–the news industry
    *****************************************
    Hey, why not? So many “journalists” have left the media to go work for the Obama administration, so it’s not like there’s much of a difference! (/sarcasm)

  285. Forgot to add: If you political choice isn’t willing to “END THE FED”, there’s also a good chance, that he/she is involved in the crime, and receiving kick backs/payoffs from the Banking Cartel to keep their mouths shut.

  286. Re-Do, I just got back from Day of Trumpets, which is correctly called in the Scriptures. It’s never called Rosh (head or chief) ha-Shanah in the Scriptures. This is a post-Babylonian name that Judah took for it and they only took it up calling it a chief month because of agriculatural purposes, but it’s not in the Scriptures .

    Per the Scriptures, it’s not defined as a feast either, which is the word “khag” in the Hebrew. But it is a sabbath sabbathon, a high sabbath, a most solemn sabbath and called a memorial.

    Yes, we blew the shofar too before our meal. Then we had our Bible study.

    So, what does blowing a trumpet, or a shofar mean? If you’ll look in the Scriptures, it’s like a warning message, which in the higher sense is warning before the next high sabbath, which is Day of Atonement, higher in the sense of future events. But blowing a trumpet or a shofar sounds a warning message like an army getting ready be hit from its enemies sounds an alarm for the land that they’re fixing to be hit, or for example, an alarm of an approaching tornado, a fire alarm, would be examples of sounding the alarm.

    BTW, the early Christians kept all of the high sabbaths, including this one.

  287. PD 8:07 pm.,

    Thanks for the video. Smith and those like him are far more represented in the changing tide of the nation than polls are showing.

    I notice RCP is struggling to keep Obama’s numbers from slipping as they inflate their numbers with more positive findings. For example they didn’t include Zogby that recently showed a 42% approval rating ( the lowest yet) even though they have included Zogby in their averages before.

    Like America Right’s article stated, a boiling point is fast coming (that could include the next 6 months), and that is not a long time to significantly alter the current trajectory.

  288. Alex: Just one man’s opinion, but he does have a point…

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/the_real_problem_with_third_pa.html

  289. C.N.D.E. Ville II

    Also, zilch support from me for everyone in the Contitutional Hall of Shame.. . . which leaves, um, how many?????

    Isn’t this a great thought?
    “As in water, face answers to face, so the mind of a person reflects the person.” from the Book of Proverbs

    That’s what I love about this site. You can see right into a person’s mind, practically into a person’s soul. All of the minds I have encountered here, so far, are minds that I feel honored to encounter.

    With minds like these, who will not give up and who will not back down, I feel encouraged and reassured that America WILL stand.

  290. folks – jbjd posted Virginia’s complaint tonight which is requesting an investigation in election fraud. Please, if there are any Virginian’s reading CW or if any of you know a Virginian patriot please give them a heads up. jb’s blog is jbjd.wordpress.com

    Thanks in advance.

  291. SueK–thanks for all your research. Keep filling us in.

    kittycat–right you are about the early Christians keeping all the high holy days…they were, after all, still Jewish, a Jewish sect…but still Jewish for a while

  292. twe // September 20, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    You betcha, twe…will do!

    Keep posting funny stuff-my bibs and I are ready!

  293. d2i // September 20, 2009 at 8:56 pm
    jbjd // September 20, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Hi jbjd and d2i,

    jbjd, a brilliant piece of work! Congrats on putting it all together.

    d2i, I have a cousin in VA and will send her and her hubby the link.

    Let’s pray this is the straw that breaks the camel(ette’s) back!

  294. twe, actually there were a mix. At first there were more Judahites, etc., plus the mix in Judaea and such. Keep in mind that Paul was an apostle to the nations, and he always kept them, twe. And all of this can be easily proven anyway if one wishes to study it. Maybe not here is the place. But there was an assembly up in Scotland keeping the Passover around 623 + C.E.

    BTW, I only wrote to tell Re-Do that I kept the “Day” of Trumpets. Nothing more!

  295. twe-I thought this sounded like the story we heard on the news. Lake Worth a couple of towns north. I told you these “elderly” people down here were feisty and very knowledgeable and opinionated. Hell you’re just a “kid” is what they tell us for obvious reasons, believe me we have nothing but respect for them in more ways than one.
    LAKE WORTH, Fla. – Authorities said a naked 91-year-old man was able to hold a drunken intruder at gunpoint until deputies arrived. Robert E. Thompson jumped out of bed early Saturday when his dog starting growling and attacking the intruder. He said he got his revolver and went out back to let the guy know how he felt about home invaders.

    Thompson, a World War II veteran, said he didn’t even notice he was standing outside in the dark without any clothes on.
    Authorities arrived to find a drunk intruder being held outside by a naked homeowner.
    The 26-year-old intruder was booked into the Palm Beach County Jail on a burglary charge.
    I bet the elderly-give them one month, the country back on track, solvent, corruption cured you name it this group can solve the problem. Yes, they are that good.

  296. twe-all the early Christians and martyrs were Jewish people until the third century I believe. Our Catholic church has interfaith ceremonies, and we all went to synagogue so many of the prayers are in our Roman Catholic Mass, shut your eyes and you think you are in Church. Loved the service, thank you Rabbi

  297. Michelle, sorry, not true, which I can’t go into right now. I suppose that you’ve been taught this, but it’s simply not correct.

  298. If y’all posted this, I’m sorry. I received this from Dr. Mercola, which if you’re not signed up with him, you may not hear. Dr. Blaylock is on and I’ve listened to the first video. You might want to hear it, I don’t know, about the flu. The first one is interesting. I’m fixing to go to #2.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/19/The-Truth-about-the-Flu-Shot.aspx

  299. #

    LM // September 20, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Kathleen Sebelius as Tort Reformer?

    Eyebrows have been raised at President Obama’s decision to let Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius lead his inquiry into how best to reduce costly medical malpractice lawsuits.

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2009/09/sebelius-as-tort-reformer/
    ******************************************

    Yeah right…..just another tax cheat!!!

  300. @ ARMY D.A.V.:

    I have felt this way for sometime now. I do not know if or how this country can survive four years, or eight years, or now even one year of Barack Obama, the Destroyer. This man is Hell bent.

    Some number of months before his election, I began to realize how dangerous this man is, yet I could also see that a huge majority of people in this country were falling under his spell. I am not joking about this “spell” either, because it does not matter what he says, it only matters how he says it.

    This is why I personally began to support those people seeking to expose his highly dubious background, as well as his alleged lack of an LFBC. I believe, and still do believe, that his presidency needs to be short circuited. Should he be allowed to complete his vision, I believe that those of us who love Freedom are doomed.

    However, one has to be careful when one becomes involved in such “theories”. I say this for many reasons, but for this post I will use the example of Leo Donofrio, who insists that regardless of his LFBC, 0bama cannot be eligible because of his African father. While I would like to agree with this, I can’t, because I do not know who his father is, nor do I know who his mother is. I only know who he says they are, and he is a constant liar.

    The truth of the matter for me is that I do not know one damned thing about the man known as “Barack Obama”, nothing. Everything, every single thing, about this man is shrouded in lies. I cannot even list the specific things that I don’t know, because my post will then be endless, so I will list the one thing that I do know. By the actions that he has taken thus far, he intends to destroy us from within, so for now I will call him The Destroyer until such time that I learn his true name (but I think that I already know).

    ARMY D.A.V., I still believe that his presidency must be short-circuited. If Governors of states have any method, then it should be started now. I think, and I feel that time grows very short. It is my hunch that there will be no voting him out. I do not see this man giving up power for any reason at all. I fear that we are stuck with him, and great, great harm shall he do.

  301. Forgot to add: If you political choice isn’t willing to “END THE FED”, there’s also a good chance, that he/she is involved in the crime, and receiving kick backs/payoffs from the Banking Cartel to keep their mouths shut.
    But South, isn’t that true of every bill, action, regulation …..the lobbyists get to them….it’s easily hidden by their tax accountants, as true with those supporting the ppcare??

  302. Sorry, Michelle, will explain later why that’s not true. I just don’t have the time right now. If you want to e-mail me, fine. Ask SueK and she’ll privately send it to you.

    thanks

  303. Patriot Dreamer -thank you for the video re: Stephen A Smith, that was very good. Of course Obama’s numbers are tanking, because he’s terrible at his job-As a registered Democrat this is how to defeat Obama and free the country.
    His major weaknesses-not NBC all the lies and cover ups will never change that fact. Dad came from Kenya, should be as easy as one, two, three.
    The Birth certificate will just establish him as a supreme liar, everyone will know that he should not have run.
    Keep hammering away on the corruption-ACORN, SEIU, and well I’m sure everything he and his buddies ever touched is corrupt. South Side of Chicago should be a gold mine of information. If someone could access Cook County Jail and its grapevine-another potential goldmine. Those guys know everything, and get real upset that they do hard time, and people like Obama are still roaming around.
    Just stick to facts-if they are lies do not embellish or exaggerate no need.
    I think the racism angle no longer working for them, wore that out.
    Point out politely all the “bonehead” errors he makes with facts.
    The DNC- assume they have lost their minds, no sane person would do what they did with Obama-Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Donna Brazille, and Rove??
    They wanted a return to power so bad that they were willing to break all laws of God and mammon, and the Constitution and they have been caught. Now it is a test of wills, can they continue hiding their nefarious deeds, our job is to keep bringing all of these issues out in the open so they can be dealt with letting the chips fall where they may.
    Like Mr. Smith I would bet most Americans (black) are loyal to their country and not Obama, the exception would be the group from South Side of Chicago-like Bertha Lewis they got corrupted too. I think most are hep to Obama like Stephen A. Lewis.

  304. Bottom line… We are screwed. Ignorance is far too great in America !!! How is it no one knows what is a Natural Born Citizen? Born in a Country to Citizen Parents????? I need more help educating people. I will be going to my local Police station tomorrow. Wish be luck, and the safety of my guardian Angels. All because I asked a question of, what is a Natural Born Citizen. At a local school festival.

  305. typo, not be, ME

  306. #

    SueK // September 20, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Patriot Dreamer // September 20, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Hi PD,

    Thanks for posting this clip.

    Mr. Smith is remarkable…..he certainly gets it! Why don’t others get it?
    *******************************************

    Yes….thank you PD….the reason they don’t get it is because they are color blind!!! 🙂

  307. PP blamed blogs and cable news for driving passions and not his radical agenda:”

    Duh, isn’t his radical agenda driving our passions on blogs and cable news…….

    PP is so pissed because he can’t control the cable news and blogs……they’ll be his ruin, yes they will be.

  308. ARMY D.A.V.:-This is the thing that has bothered me since day #1 with Obama.
    Sept 11, 2001 we all know what happened on that day, and who did it.
    Government goes on a tear-and tries to close all loopholes involving terrorists infiltrating our country-leading to heavy frisking of little old ladies at airports etc. Everybody better have their documentation in order or else.
    A couple of years pass-wars in the Middle East with terrorist organizations.
    Along comes Obama-no documentation, terrorists and other wackos for friends- none given, don’t ask- well you know the drill and this ONE is given the keys to the kingdom. On what planet does this make any sense?

  309. Margie-you asked a question about NBC at a school festival and got in trouble?

  310. SNL spoof on Joe Wilson … first minute or so is a commercial. Skit ends with James Carville … very funny.

    http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/update-thursday-part-1/1158484/

  311. Buraq ’08
    I agree with you 100%. I also believe that we have much to fear if he is allowed to chair the UN.

  312. j2j2.

    Yes, the whole damn system is corrupt, but the one thing that’s destroying our country, livelihoods, economy, and has devalued the US Dollar by “96 %” is the ……

    Federal Reserve Banks

    It is the core of all the corruption, and is the most important issue there is.

    Get rid of the Fed, and we are no longer slaves. There won’t be an income tax. People can breathe, thrive, keep small businesses alive, without working from,

    January to April every year, just to pay the FED.

    People don’t really realize it, but most of us work from Jan-April ( 33 % of annual income ) if not more, just to pay the elite Federal Reserve Banking families for printing us money out of thin air, that has no value at all. It’s fiat money!

    I can’t stress this enough to people, just how important the END THE FED issue is.

    The Federal Reserve Bankers Killed JFK for exposing them, and signing an Executive Order to take away their power, and return the power of our money system to the US Congress.

  313. All-I think you will “enjoy” this letter. Sums up a lot of the facts in the case.
    http://www.repubx.com
    My Open Letter to Judge Land

  314. @ Kim:

    Thanks kindly, and I agree with you as well. Should Obama chair the UN, then we will have a man who is absolutely Evil to his core heading a detestable, power starved, world domination obsessed organization of criminals and despots.

    What the Hell is happening in my country, and how in God’s name can it be stopped?

  315. We are all “owned” commodities by the Federal Reserve Banking Families. Want proof your Birth Certificate is a Bond on your “worth” to the elite?

    Watch this video to the very end!

  316. whooops, did not mean to post all of it. don’t know how that happened, sorry

  317. having breakfast the other morning . I over heard the waitress talking about george washington and how he was really the 10 president, which is factually true just not told that way. so when she came to my table i mention about the natural born issue, boy was she amazed. oh she mention she teaches history at a local high school. always let the truthbetold

  318. Val // Thanks Val that was funny
    SNL spoof on Joe Wilson

  319. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    CONSTITUTIONALISTS TAKE NOTE

    Expanding on my suggestion:

    C.N.D.E. Ville II // September 20, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    CNN:”we need massive voter disobedience to the 2 main parties…or at least we need to infiltrate both…

    And

    CNDE’s suggestion: Wow! YES! WE need to choose the candidates WE want. Enough of this controlled choice stuff.

    ——-

    Why not create a website called, “We the People Nominate…”

    And list the constitutionalists in every congressional and state race…

    And rate the non constitutionalists as the usurper supporting, tyrrany loving, government expansionist, marxist hopefuls they are…respectively…

  320. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    We could also give links on how to send donations to the constitutionalists, and give links to the pro constitutional pacs in every state…

    This could be the seeds for a popular movement…

    A constitutionalist movement to infiltrate and break up the inflitration in both parties…

  321. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    The site could also organize grass roots support and opposition, respectively in every town and district, and have local groups and comittees, which could be networked in, and send in reports on whose running in every race…citing their statements and positions on the constitution…

    We could encourage our commitees to nominate Dems and Repulicans and Independents…

    We cannot let the MSM and the main parties TELL us who is to lead us…WE THE PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE THE REINS OF POWER BACK

    and do this forcefully!

  322. The South -I wonder if the Stock Exchange guys can pull up Obama’s BC here or overseas. He said everyone has one. Would this work the same Kenya, Great Britian?

  323. Civis Naturaliter Natus
    Why not create a website called, “We the People Nominate…”Great Idea.
    A list of Constitutionalist not a Constitutionalist would be helpful. This might scare a few into behaving better.

  324. Another great page from LC — I offer my thanks –

    Anyone care to connect the dots? —
    Be sure to check out all of the links
    on the page.

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-industrial-complex.html

    The Obama Industrial Complex

  325. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6587421&mesg_id=6587421
    This is a response to that last ACORN video, don’t forget there are to be more.
    “I’ve never done anything wrong in my life.” “They destroyed my family.” ~ a tearful Juan Vera
    Advertisements [?]Juan Carlos Vera, who claims he was trying to help people he thought were in danger, was fired by ACORN based upon the contents of a heavily edited, questionable video which can be viewed here:
    http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/17/acorn-video-prostit… /
    Ironically, the video appears to bolster Mr. Vera’s version of events. There is one statement that remains on the video, in spite of all the editing, that I feel substantiates the story presented by Mr. Vera. About 4 minutes into the video, Hannah Giles states ~
    “the girls are coming this weekend, that’s why we’re in an emergency situation, that’s why we like ran in here for help, because I wanna get them before the pimp has time to bond with them and you know, herd them away.”
    Mr. Vera said he was trying to help people in danger. The statement by Giles above, leads me to believe he’s being truthful in this assertion.
    In a press conference Thursday at ACORN’s National City headquarters, Vera said statements he made in the video were taken out of context.
    The now-former ACORN worker said he was merely trying to help the pair because he thought they were in danger.
    “I never done anything wrong in my life,” Vera said. “They destroyed my family.”
    I believe Juan Vera. I would like to see ACORN reinstate his position until a full investigation (including a review of all unedited tape recordings involved) can be completed. If you agree, please give this thread a K and R.

  326. Michelle. Yes? Couldn’t believe it, then a Cop harrassed me. I would have gone to the station tonight, but so sad came home. I feel all alone in the fight for truth and justice. I real appreciate those here, that know the truth. Our time is running out to save America.

  327. The south, below is the interesting link on how to get out of UCC

    http://www.redemptionservice.com/contents/secured_party_creditor.asp

  328. The South
    Patton, George S. Society … Anything built by man, can be destroyed by him.”
    While I was watching that video about human beings being commodities I remembered that scene in Patton when he was looking at all the destruction in Europe, his soldiers were trying to get through something -like a brick wall I think that is what generated his remark. While I was watching that movie I thought how true that remark was. All those buildings the Nazi’s built-modern, sleek supposed to last a thousand years, when the Allies stopped bombing not stone upon stone. 1939-1945. I think it is very bad to ignore the fact that Americans are people not chattel and patriots to boot.

  329. Michelle.

    I’m sure Obama has a Birth Certificate, that could be traced, we just need a serial # … lol

    cq.

    I’ll check that link out!

  330. Val–Thanks.

    Michelle–kittycat has some valid points. I would have to look up the time in which the Christian sect of Judaism separated from Judaism…but it was earlier than the 3rd C. Still, you are right that there are prayers that seem to come from OT.

    I strongly recommend the Liturgy of the Hours, the Psaltar (this is what priests and religious are required to recite every day–it’s more than the “Christian Prayer” version which doesn’t contain all of it). In “the Hours” you will find riches upon riches. It is the prayer of the Church. By the way, those who Pray the Liturgy of the Hours are also “in person Christi” (in the person of Christ) just like the priest is when he celebrates Mass. This is according to paragraph 108 of the General Instruction for the Liturgy of the Hours.

    See about asking a priest to be your spiritual director, if you don’t already have a spiritual director. It’s a wonderful way to grow in your spiritual life.

  331. Margie-I was so upset when I read your comment, I thought I was talking to any of my girlfriends. The old what did you do this time thing?
    Margie be cool. Take a copy of the Constitution with you. Have them read the pertinent parts out loud. I think most people would define parents as a mother and father. There are a few who get confused by that I’m sure. Then you ask where was Obama’s father from-they may not know say he was a student from Kenya-so it is not possible for Obama to be NBC fulfilling the eligibility requirements. This rocket science it is just so darn difficult. I wonder if The Obama File has all this consolidated. Remember just be polite and go with the flow. Adding angels.

  332. The South, I just watched your video, intense stuff! You know the line in the video that we are worth money to the bank that bought us…
    That’s why if we’re killed inadvertantly it’s called “collateral damage”

  333. Margie-It is not on you to save the country. Remember what is on our money. “In God we Trust”, when you get upset just remember those words and trust.

  334. Michelle, Thanks alot for understanding. I also think Juan was just trying to help. I worked in the public for 25 plus years, then a passenger in a bad car wreck. I don’t think Juan meant any harm. My Gosh how can we fix all this crime happening in our government?

  335. Kim.

    Yes, and that’s why I continue to try and stress to everyone on this blog how important it is to understand the Federal Reserve.

    They own us, like cattle, we work for them, and pay them every week/month/year.

    We “must” support and elect only people who are willing to END THE FED!

  336. CNN and Ville II, That is GREAT!!! Infiltrate BOTH parties! I like it! The parties DO NOT hold to their platforms anyway, so why not give every “career politician” in BOTH parties a run fo their money! genius.

  337. twe-well actually my cousin is a priest. I have gotten into many theological discussions with him. I got into something really fascinating the kabbalah-not the commercialized Hollywood Berg stuff. As I was reading it I heard Bishop Sheen. He must have read it and accidentally memorized it. After I read a chapter it was so mind boggling and spiritual I had to take a nap.
    for 1 trillionth of a second I understood the big bang theory and then it was gone. For some odd reason I understand the mystics better than the down to earth group.
    Kabbalah
    The oral tradition of Kabbalah states that the reason for existence is that God wished to behold God.
    God can be visualized symbolically as follows. AIN SOF OHR, (also spelled EIN SOF OHR) the Endless Light which surrounds the void, emanated spheres or realms of light (effulgent and infinite bright). This, Kav or expansion of Divine Will, manifested in ten distinct stages of Emanation. The world was called into being by ten Divine Utterances

  338. At what point did Juan Vera call the proper authorities to report the illegal importation of underage alien females for the purposes of prostitution without regard to the sex of their pimp? Is there an official record of such a call? If not, then I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

    Are you essentially saying that because he thought these alleged underage girls would be better off with a female madame than a male pimp that he should be let off the hook?

    By what authority does this man Vera, an employee of ACORN, have any right to do anything other than report this situation to the proper authorities? Am I to believe that he is Eddie Murphy driving around town trying to help local prostitutes because he is a good citizen? Give me a break.

  339. CW, how mad are you getting at me for asking questions? And stating facts about me? 9/28/02 Helicopter to ICU…. I did survive…Friends.. God has a plan for you…My thoughts..Medical asst…. then studied, took tests for Securities license.. thinking God wants me to help people..although suffer from depression. memory not as good as before.. should i try politics? I couldn’t work with liar’s or thieves though…I do want to live again, with my morals and ethic’s…

  340. Buraq, I understand what you are saying. He should have called the authorities… but who is that? They are also criminals…we are screwed. Bad is out numbering the good.

  341. Margie -that is part of what is so bad about this wacko government of Obama DNC and all other naughty people. Sometimes the innocent get dragged in with the guilty. That is why everyone needs to be careful. No one wants to hurt an innocent person. In our country today many innocents are hurting because of the actions of a few. The Stock Market meltdown, housing, the bailouts, The Chrysler dealerships closed (mostly Republican) have to check more on that possibly targeted. People are suffering and it is so unfair-that is why we have to get this mess Obama ineligible, illegal govt. etc. straightened out.

  342. The South, the problem is…everyone who has tried to End the Fed ends up assassinated.

  343. Michelle.. again thanks alot!! I just watched the video of Juan’s being fired? and I still don’t think he meant any harm…I think they blew his mind..not knowing what to say…not sure why he didn’t get a law license in Cal. maybe not legal… too darn many thoughts… with no actual records…God Bless us All!!!

  344. @ Margie:

    I can understand that point, however, I personally would have started by simply calling 911 and reporting the situation exactly as it had been described to me. What I would not have done is involve myself in such a manner that it placed me in jeopardy, which is what he did. By not involving authorities, he made his motives suspect, at least to me.

  345. Buraq, Understand.. maybe he is not here legally was afraid to call? I am just trying to understand. Don’t get mad at me..The whole situation is beyond my belief.. do to my upbringing.

  346. do or due? oops

  347. Margie-Buraq-Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

  348. Margie – Leo Donofrio has a new post up, and here’s a tidbit you can print out and take with you. (I’ll add that one has to question why the Founders would state “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN for just TWO people in the US…POTUS and VPOTUS. Why would they think it OK to have a British dual citizen when they just fought a war against the British??????) Good luck, stand firm in the truth and let us know what happens.

    “The nation faces a crucial legal question:

    How can a person who admits to having been born a British citizen – governed at birth by British law – be a natural born citizen of the United States?

    This is a very serious legal question. Obama’s father was never a US citizen and was never permanently domiciled in the US. The leading Supreme Court decision in Wong Kim Ark indicates that the native born son of an alien is not natural born. There is no conspiracy theory attached to this question. Let’s state it another way:

    Can a person who is at birth a dual citizen be considered a natural born citizen for purposes of meeting the Constitution’s requirements to be POTUS?

    That is in no way a conspiracy theory. The US State department web site – now run by Obama – tells us that dual citizens owe allegiance to both nations and that while on the soil of the foreign nation that nation has a greater claim to the person than the US. It is certainly not trivial for US citizens to ask whether dual citizenship at birth means a person is not a “natural born citizen” of the US.”

    More here: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

  349. It seem Larry S. didn’t like the advice I gave him at his blog…..he sees it as his duty to expose Orly for lying and fake documents and some sort of soliciting people for money!!! Whatever……I wrote him my response basically telling him to leave Orly alone and get over it……if anything is fake and illegal it will be brought out in court….this is not a case for Larry Sinclair to decide!!

  350. Well, they must be running scared. “John Q”, story of a black man’s (Denzel Washington) quest to ensure his son receive heart transplant at the the tune of 1/4 million dollars, when he has poor insurance. Couldn’t be a coincidence could it?

  351. More to Come ACORN or…..
    Planting the Seeds: The Politicized Art Behind the ACORN Plan (Breitbart Lets Loose!)
    Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:25:28 PM · by quegley · 17 replies · 882+ views
    http://www.biggovernment.com ^ | 9/20/2009 | Andrew Breitbart
    Everything you needed to know about the unorthodox roll out of the now-notorious ACORN sting videos was hidden in plain sight in my Sept. 7 column, “Katie Couric, Look in the Mirror.” ACORN was not the only target of those videos; so were Katie, Brian, Charlie and every other mainstream media pooh-bah. They were not going to report this blockbuster unless they were forced to. And they were. What’s more, it ain’t over yet. Not every hint I dropped in that piece about what was to come has played itself out yet.Stay tuned. When filmmaker and provocateur James O’Keefe came…

  352. Kim.

    Yes, everyone who’s tried to end the FED has been assassinated, because usually its only one person going at it alone.

    The general public is too ignorant to the subject (by design), and not enough people get behind the one person trying to END THE FED.

    There is security in numbers. They’ve been run out of this country before, and we can do it again!

    Educate others every chance you get, so when a political candidate mentions ENDING THE FED, the public will support him.

  353. Katie // September 20, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    Hi Katie,

    Yes, all this makes perfect sense if, in fact, Obama, Sr., really *is* his father.

    Just because Barky says he is doesn’t make it so; we’ve seen his pattern of lies for the last 9 months!

    Still a lot of questions, with no answers.

  354. with more revelations to come should be an interesting week.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/07/breitbart-couric-should-look-in-mirror/?page=2
    Instead, talk-radio host Glenn Beck and Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit, as well as Breitbart.tv editors Scott Baker and Liz Stephans, led the charge forcing the mainstream media’s hand while the usually reliable George Soros-funded “netroots” media defense mechanism couldn’t fend off the growing body of charges.
    Calling Mr. Jones’ critics “racist” was their best play, and that gruel gets thinner with every passing scandal cycle. In this case, the Jones “Swift Boat” already had left the harbor.
    Much of America has started to realize that not only was Mr. Obama not vetted before he became president, he and his fellow unvetted cohorts continue to be given a pass by the Fourth Estate.

  355. Katie… I was reading earlier he was in jail… I worry about all of us in the fight for truth and justice..in Tenn. … so he is ok? never sure what the truth is anymore…

  356. Wow.. more i read, there will be a civil war in our own borders soon…

  357. @Margie:

    I am not mad with you, and I apologize if I came across that way. I am angry with ACORN, however, as I am very familiar with them being a former resident of New Orleans. I know that this organization is as corrupt as corrupt can be.

    @Michelle:

    I can certainly agree with innocent until proven guilty. I would not want to have it any other way. I do agree with his firing based upon what is in that tape. It is my personal preference that ACORN be brought up on RICO charges for interstate organized criminal activity.

  358. Buraq… thanks for understanding… As far as new Orleans.. Acorn let the people down…they had government money to help the citizens… harrassed others that tried to help… all wrong. Greed…. It is hard to help. when threatened..citizens need to see we are not all bad, even if we are cute 🙂 just raised with God, Love family and friends…

  359. Sorry if someone already posted this. I’ve never seen Stephy so testy with Zero before.

  360. CW, and others’ who owns the betrayal blog? and naturalborncitizen blog/ are they safe? I thought they both were Leo’s…. neither recent posts were his… I worry too much..

  361. TO:
    Buraq ’08 // September 20, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    At what point did Juan Vera call the proper authorities to report the illegal importation of underage alien females for the purposes of prostitution without regard to the sex of their pimp? Is there an official record of such a call? If not, then I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

    Are you essentially saying that because he thought these alleged underage girls would be better off with a female madame than a male pimp that he should be let off the hook?

    By what authority does this man Vera, an employee of ACORN, have any right to do anything other than report this situation to the proper authorities? Am I to believe that he is Eddie Murphy driving around town trying to help local prostitutes because he is a good citizen? Give me a break.
    =============================

    Don’t fall for ACORN’s Lieberal Crocodile Tears.
    They tried lashing out that didn’t work now they are trying a different strategy. Senor Juan Carlos was doing EXACTLY what he was trained to do by Obama or someone like Obama in ACORN:
    No Judging, no turning away JUST GROW THE NUMBERS everyone that comes in that door is a VOTE and a Number for more Fed Funds. Doesn’t matter if it is a criminal, a drug dealer, gangbanger, hoker, citizen, illegal, homeless, ANYONE don’t judge just SIGN THEM UP.

    Now, all those feeling sorry for Juan Carlos imagine if this was a Doctor, Police Officer, Teacher, etc that heard about some rumor of illegals coming in to do under age sex and they didn’t report it to AUTHORITIES…what would happen to them, their career and their family?

    Juan Carlos was PIMPIN for OBAMA and needs to Face the Music…don’t fall for their Rules for Radicals Gimmick of Sympathy.
    Book em Dano and throw the book at them all.
    CRACK THEIR ACORNS. Juan Carlos was getting Paid with tax dollars while aiding child prostitution. He deserves no SYMPATHY.

    Destroy the Evil Erosionist Party once and for all….it is the only way this country will have a chance of Survical.

    Push those Acorns down the squirrel hole. Crack those ACORN NUTS.

  362. ticktock, thanks for the video… that Guy is cute… need to watch it again 🙂

  363. Understood… no sympathy for Juan..bad Margie falling for the lies !!

  364. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    Jacqlyn Smith, As you know, I agree with you about Larry Sinclair. People need to stop supporting him and treating him like he is on our side. He is trying to take down down the only person who is relentlessly taking action on the eligibility front. Orly may be imperfect, but attacking her hurts our side. Furthermore, Larry Sinclair has NO business acting like he is so0o perfect! The enemy of my friend is my enemy! Orly may not be a personal friend, but she is a friend to anyone who wants the truth of Obama to come out.

  365. Here’s another good one; he explains the SS card, and how the word bench, means bank in latin. The judge rules from the “bank”, and how we are property of the Queen of England.

    This stuff is deep, real deep.

  366. @ Peter Fransisco:

    I absolutely agree with everything in your post. It is very well stated. I believe that your assessment of the situation is spot on. The ONLY thing that I will accept from ACORN at this point is their guilty pleas to RICO charges of interstate organized criminal activity. Firings will not do, nor will apologies, resignations, closings, re-namings, nothing.

    Furthermore, I also demand that any politicians, state or federal, involved with this interstate mafia be charged under RICO.

    This organization has been willfully given both my federal and state tax dollars to not only aid and abet criminal activity, but also to disenfranchise my vote as an american citizen via astonishingly blatant vote fraud, and this has been going on for years and years in state after state, and BY GOD I will stand for it no longer!

  367. goodtimepolitics

    CW could you and or others here check this page out and see if there is any truth to the post! Thanks!
    http://thearizonasentinel.com/2009/04/09/the-geitner-obama-connectionyou-can-run-but-you-cant-hide/

  368. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Bench does not come from the Latin for Bank….

    The Romans did not even have banks…

    It was the Italians who invented banks…

    Bench is from the Italian, banca….

    Bank is from the Italian, banca…

    Banca in Italian is a table or platform…its original meaning regarding money was

    the money-lender’s tables….

    you read about them even in the New Testament…

    But as an institution it was developed by Italian families, esp. the Medicis…

    Bench, from the same means the table behind which the Judge sits…

    The judge thing and the money thing have nothing to do with one another…

    You guys and gals need to open some books, and stop using Internet videos or rants for serious historical research

  369. Dear Dear Margie, He may be cute but only on the outside… his ideology is not cute! He’s a total Obot.

  370. For those whom do not know who started the Idea of the FED and its backers I would highly recommend you read this. A time-line dating back to 1743, the connections and story is astounding

    http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

    The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, as is documented in the following timeline. However, before you jump to the timeline, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.

  371. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Origin Unknown,

    I have read elsewhere the same…but this article has no footnotes, so it is useless to prove anything…

  372. #

    SueK // September 20, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Patriot Dreamer // September 20, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Hi PD,

    Thanks for posting this clip.

    Mr. Smith is remarkable…..he certainly gets it! Why don’t others get it?
    ******************************************

    tick tock…..I happened to see part of this on TV….couldn’t believe my ears…..was that Georgie Boy actually confronting this FRAUD….NAH….couldn’t be!!!

  373. More monkey business…exactly what funding was taken away from ACORN? When I saw the title of the bill subsequent to the vote, I wondered what funding did they actually vote to remove. This article gives some insight into how far they went and what still needs to be addressed.

    http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/09/20/the-political-mechanics-of-acorn/

  374. Be not afraid, be informed. Thanks to CW, we are.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/suppressing_dissent_is_unameri.html

  375. News Flash! Can you believe this guy? He must think we are living in a cave…

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/21/obama-dont-know-much-about-acorn/

  376. This should warm the “Cockles of your heart” for whatever that means.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/59523-obama-open-to-newspaper-bailout-bill

  377. ms. helga: Not surprised he is trying to help his friends, and I don’t think you are, either. How is he going to keep “informing” us of what we need to know if they go under? After all, he has to fight those pesky cable channels, the Internet truth talk, and those right-wing extremists, doesn’t he? Thanks for the link. Drudge is reporting on this, too.

  378. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Origin Unknown,

    One thing about this Palin talk in the Far East…

    she has been invited to speak at a group run by

    Jonathan Slone
    http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/events.taf?function=show&cat=allconf&EventID=GC07&SPID=2776&level1=speakers&level2=bio&ID=

    Evidently friends with Milken and Bloomberg and other international Jewish financiers, with ties to Rothschilds…

    We can guess that the Rothschilds are behing Obama…

    Palin never says nada about the NBC issue…

    This Slone is part of the Clinto Global Initiative sponsered by the Rothschilds…

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1064328/Clinton-Global-Initiative

    ————

    We Must Conclude that Palin is a Rothschilds actor, to steal the support of American patriots for their never ending scheems…

    dump Palin, if you don’t want to be manipulated by this evild family…

  379. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Indeed it makes perfect sense for the Rothschilds to buy Palin, since she is the only threat to their political hegemony in North America…

    Their strategy is to buy friends; and then stab them in the back when their greater agenda requires it…

  380. Will be catching up later, so I don’t know if this has already been posted (interesting comments, too). Hmmmm….

    http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7022822

  381. CNN: I have to respectfully disagree with you about Palin. I do not know for sure, but I do not think she is in cahoots with the “Evil Empire.” She is not enamored with the press, either, because of the way she was treated in the past. I think she just wants to educate herself in foreign affairs since that is what was determined was lacking in her experience and resume. Jesus had dinner with the despised “Tax Collector.” That did not mean He approved of what he did; he was trying to influence his behavior and change his heart while showing us he came to save all not just the righteous. I am not saying that is what Palin is doing, but IMHO, she may be keeping an eye on her enemies while “learning” what she needs to know on the federal level. At this point and until I find out for sure, I am waiting and watching to see what she does and plans to do based on the fact that she said she was going to become more active on the national front subsequent to leaving her job as Governor of Alaska. BTW, I am an unaffiliated voter so I watch both sides.

  382. twe: To my knowledge, no one has shared this story as yet, but it certainly is worth noting. Thanks for sharing.

    Happy Day…Linda

  383. CNN: What makes perfect sense to me is for the “powers-that-be to keep an eye on Palin. She is definitely a threat to their overall plan, but I do not believe she can be bought. She is a Christian whose beliefs, positions, and “tolerance” are well-known. Do you really think she sold out? While everyone has a “price,” I find it hard to believe Palin would sell her soul to the devil. Just MHO.

  384. ticktock 1240 am–wow! That was good…as in a good show from Steph

  385. Linda from NY wrote:

    “September 20, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Alex: Just one man’s opinion, but he does have a point…

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/the_real_problem_with_third_pa.ht

    Lots of food for thought there. I never realized – and the article says a lot of other people didn’t either – that Perot siphoned off G. W.’s votes to such an extent that it resulted in a Clinton win.

    Now, I was a lifelong Dem until last year, as I’ve mentioned – a Yellow Dog Dem! But I didn’t even get involved in politics until George Bush appeared on the scene.

    But if I remember correctly, Perot was going great guns until he said something that made everyone back off suddenly. So I guess third parties maybe (and this is a very tenuous “maybe”) can or could work, if everything goes just right and nothing runs off the rails.

    I do know Ralph Nadar was largely responsible for Bush’s loss, the first time around. He (grammar?) and the Supreme Court ;-).

  386. “Buraq (Barack) ’08”

    “I think, and I feel that time grows very short. It is my hunch that there will be no voting him out. I do not see this man giving up power for any reason at all. I fear that we are stuck with him, and great, great harm shall he do.”

    It’s interesting to see all the different approaches these people use to get we Birthers to stand down. I’ve got a really good one: PRODUCE THE LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!

    Thanks! 😉

  387. Did I miss something?? Palin is now in
    cahoots with the Rothschilds? Now I’m really
    confused. Who are we going to trust?

    Back to trusting no one I guess.

  388. Linda from NY wrote:

    “September 21, 2009 at 7:33 am

    ms. helga: Not surprised he is trying to help his friends, and I don’t think you are, either. How is he going to keep “informing” us of what we need to know if they go under? After all, he has to fight those pesky cable channels, the Internet truth talk, and those right-wing extremists, doesn’t he? Thanks for the link. Drudge is reporting on this, too.”

    Bingo! And what’s freakin’ me out is that O-balrog does his dirty work right out in the open, and our milquetoast congresspeople just sit around, say “Huh?” and do nothing.

    They are all hopefully GONE ASAP!

  389. Michelle–be very, very careful with Kabbalah. Even Jews have to meet certain requirements before they are allowed to study it. One of the things that comes from that is that it says that souls are preexistent. This is totally against Christianity and Catholicism. As the New Advent site says: “Its speculations concerning God’s nature and relation to the universe differ materially from the teachings of Revelation.”

    “Remember your leaders who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teaching.” Hebrews 13:7-9a

    Seriously, I recommend seek a good spiritual director and vet this with him.

  390. CNN,

    Good morning all.

    Keep in mind maybe Palin already read our strategy and is “infiltrating” the enemy.

  391. Money is the root of MOST EVIL.

    Keep in mind that the reverse could be happenign with Palin ..it is an opportunity for her to possibly educate them as well into rethinking their Evil Ways.

    Remember Rothchild supported McCain/Palin and took a lot of grief from the Erosionists for it.
    Maybe the Rothchilds are ready to “peel” away from the Communist/Marxist Obama and the Erosionist Party that is about to tax them into kingdom come.

    There is always at least 3 sides to every story.
    Our, theirs and REALITY/TRUTH.

  392. twe: I know this is not my discussion and I do not mean to butt in, but I have to agree with you in your advice to Michelle. While knowledge is the key and we certainly should be knowledgeable about other trains of thought, it is at our own peril we do this. IMHO, we should not allow ourselves to be taken in by what may sound “good” on the surface; it can a danger to our soul and thwart our spiritual development not to mention, it can cause confusion if we do not avail ourselves of spiritual assistance and guidance. Thanks for your advice; it is good for all to hear and heed.

    God Bless…Linda

  393. Peter: I agree; there are two sides to every story and then, there is the TRUTH hiding somewhere in the discussion. It is our job to seek the truth in all things and not be deterred by what appears to be the truth IMHO.

  394. What do you get when you mix the Exposed Fraud, Corruption, Tax Evading, Rules for Radical trianed, domestic terrorist, financial or otherwise: ACORN, OBAMA and BILL AYERS?

    ACORN LYING UNDERGROUND.
    Don’t stop throwing dirt on them.
    They made a pact with the DEVIL…the road to hell is paved with “good” MISGUIDED intentions. Many are living in Hell on Earth because of these 3 above and others of their Erosionist Ilk.

    PS How many illegals did Senor Juan Carlos, Pimpin fo Obama inSand Diedo, helped sneak into the country or help their criminal enterprise once here to EVADE TAXES, WORK ILLEGALLY, STEAL FROM TAXPAYERS, ETC.
    HOW MANY Mr. Juan Carlos Vera?
    I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION into this MASSIVE CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE that used my tax money to PIMP for EROSIONIST LIEBERALS.

    Pull the Nationla Guard out of Iraq and Afghanistan and used to to seize all their offices records, etc we need 10,000’s of National to Protect us from the Criminal Enemy Within. Arrest all of them and put them in FEMA camps until they are processed by Military Tribunals. They are an Treasonous Enemy to America and it’s Constitution. They Conspired to use Taxpayer money to take over America.

  395. Patriot Dreamer

    I have no words. You must see this dress for yourself worn by Victoria Rowell at yesterday’s Emmy awards:

    http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/emmy_awards_2009#52556

  396. I posted this comment last night at 8:56 but w/a hundred comments + left since then, I wanted to re post.

    folks – jbjd posted Virginia’s complaint tonight which is requesting an investigation in election fraud. Please, if there are any Virginian’s reading CW or if any of you know a Virginian patriot please give them a heads up. jb’s blog is jbjd.wordpress.com

    jbjd also has TX, HI and SC complaints up for citizens to send in as well for those interested.

    Thanks in advance.

  397. twe // September 21, 2009 at 8:34 am

    I saw this yesterday (vid of researcher/plague bacteria). Hmmmmm…..Couldn’t help wondering if somehow his death was “assisted.”

    Many scientists working on things of this nature meet their untimely demise once their mission is accomplished. There’s an obituary list floating around on the Net.

  398. Linda from NY 922: Thank you for your comment. There’s nothing wrong with learning about other religions. But, it’s important to know one’s own very well or one can be led astray. I have read all kinds of spiritual stuff. God can use anything to bring us to himself. But, once there, we have to stay the course. I read many things before and really could have been led in the wrong direction, if not for God’s grace. This grace God provides to all. But, we must be willing to submit to his Truth, to what he wants to teach us and be willing to submit to how, like the potter, he wants to remake us into the image of himself that he created us to be.

    It’s not unlike the birth certificate issue. We all want to get to the truth here. I pray God will lead us there, in Jesus’ name.

  399. REMINDER.

    I cannot recommend anything more Highly than to sign up for RedState. Erik Eriskson does a tremendous job for those that think like us. He does all the digging you just have to read. It is nice and neat in a once daily e-mail early in the AM, it’s a great way to start your Consitutional day.
    It is FREE and if you are not satisfied quadruple money back LOL
    Sign up to get the morning briefing by email here: http://www.paramountcommunication.com/Newsletters/Redstate/index.aspx

    Just name and e-mail and zip….if you are afraid of the Gestapo use a fake name that you can order from Pimpin for Obama ACORN.

  400. Patriot Dreamer….

    I’m speechless, as well.

  401. Patriot Dreamer – That is just creepy!

  402. #

    Linda from NY // September 21, 2009 at 8:39 am

    CNN: I have to respectfully disagree with you about Palin. I do not know for sure, but I do not think she is in cahoots with the “Evil Empire.” She is not enamored with the press, either, because of the way she was treated in the past. I think she just wants to educate herself in foreign affairs since that is what was determined was lacking in her experience and resume. Jesus had dinner with the despised “Tax Collector.” That did not mean He approved of what he did; he was trying to influence his behavior and change his heart while showing us he came to save all not just the righteous. I am not saying that is what Palin is doing, but IMHO, she may be keeping an eye on her enemies while “learning” what she needs to know on the federal level. At this point and until I find out for sure, I am waiting and watching to see what she does and plans to do based on the fact that she said she was going to become more active on the national front subsequent to leaving her job as Governor of Alaska. BTW, I am an unaffiliated voter so I watch both sides.
    ******************************************

    Palin is supported by a former Democrat…..Lady Rothchild…..she was a Hillary supporter but jumped to Palin when the press started treating her so poorly. I saw her at one of Sarah’s rallies last year…..and she spoke on supporting Palin…..well the ticket but she threw her support to the Republican ticket!

  403. Patriot Dreamer 938–Outrageious. I have words! “Put on the Lord Jesus Christ.” Romans 13:14a

  404. twe: Thanks! You are truly a blessing for all of us here. Your words tell me you have deep and abiding Faith and Trust in our Lord and God. For me, that is refreshing in light of all of the evil to which we are subjected on a daily basis. We must be witnesses to the Truth, the Light, and the Way and be ever watchful.

  405. Humor alert!

  406. Patriot Dreamer // September 21, 2009 at 9:38 am

    I have no words. You must see this dress for yourself worn by Victoria Rowell at yesterday’s Emmy awards:
    *********************************************

    Talk about worst dressed….OMG!!!!

  407. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    RE: Kabbalah,

    You definitely don’t want to get into anything like this, its a mortal sin against the 1st commandment to practice any kind of sorcercy, magic, necromancy, numerology (Kabbala), which seeks secrete knowledge or power through material forces, because it puts you in direct subjection to influence from the fallen angels…

    this is what on preacher taught at my parish some years ago, when he came for a lenten mission…

    Its like tatoos, most don’t know that tatoos is also a sin: mutilation of the body, in the OT only pagans did that…that is why many tatoo symbols have to do with the occult, violence or sex…

  408. twe: A blessing and comic relief, too! Thanks.

  409. Civis Naturaliter Natus // September 21, 2009 at 9:56 am

    RE: Kabbalah,

    You definitely don’t want to get into anything like this, its a mortal sin against the 1st commandment to practice any kind of sorcercy, magic, necromancy, numerology (Kabbala), which seeks secrete knowledge or power through material forces, because it puts you in direct subjection to influence from the fallen angels**************************************

    That’s that CRAP that Madonna practices and look what a nut job she is…..she was raised Catholic too!!! I’m glad she is no longer a Catholic…..gives the rest of us a bad name!

  410. Patriot Dreamer: Think she ordered that from the “O” Store, or did he have it specially made for her?

    YUK!

    When is the mandatory “statue in the town square” coming?

  411. News on Leo the Lawyer

    Leo’s wife was pressured by neighbors to filing a false assault charges against Leo while Leo was in jail 2 months ago because these same neighbors, who are Obama supporters, had already filed false assault charges against Leo.

    Leo’s wife had the courage to expose the fact that had been pressured by others to file false charges. She withdrew her complaint and the charges were dropped. The Obama thugs also manipulated the Child Protection authorities to investigate charges against Leo that he had done “improper” things with his daughter. That investigation was dropped because Leo’s wife and daughter had the courage to tell the truth even though they were under intense pressure, i.e. the told the child’s mother that she would be charged if she didn’t help convict Leo..

    The pending charges are the assault against the same neighbors who had conspired to pressure his wife to file false charges and involve the Child Protection investigation. I have personally interviewed Leo and his wife about these matters and the story checks out as valid.

    The Obama thugs are pulling out all the stops to destroy Leo and his family.

    Here is the text of a letter from Leo’s wife that she made public.

    I plan to send it to the Press

    My husband is a Lawyer who knows his rights. If BHO Campaign will do this to a Lawyer imagine what they will do to others who SPEAK the TRUTH about BHO.

    The Nashville Police took the keys to every vehicle that we own and the keys to both of our houses. While my husband was being prevented from returning to our home in Nashville, Obama supporters vandalized our home in Nashville and STOLE a computer on which my husband had documents regarding his investigation of Crimes committed by the Obama campaign in Nashville.

    My husband was FALSELY arrested by the Nashville Police Department without Probable Cause. He was assaulted and battered while in the custody of the Nashville Police and Sheriff’s Department. The Police had 4 vials of his blood taken illegally. The last time he was arrested, he was taken to Mental Tennessee Mental Health Institute and FALSELY imprisoned there. The Police tried to get him imprisoned in Middle Tennessee Middle Health Institute to try and silence him, to prevent him from exposing their crimes and the cover-up of crimes committed by the Obama Campaign in Tennessee.

    Evidently, they expected that he would give up, but he prevailed and stood up for his constitutional rights in spite of enormous pressure to submit. They assaulted him physically and mentally at the jail and at MTMHI for days but he did not submit to them. Finally the Doctors at MTMHI realized that they could loose their licenses to practice and be criminally convicted for their participation in this criminal conspiracy and they said that my husband was NOT a danger to himself or others and they released him.

    He was prevented from having Visitation with our Daughter, Olivia Haffey, in violation of his Constitutional, Civil and Parental Rights for 4 months and now Obama supporters are having employees of Tennessee Department of Children Services TERRORIZE our Family.

    Evidence clearly shows that certain Nashville Policemen and an assistant district

    http://freeleohaffey.blogspot.com/

  412. And from “The Right Reasons” site:

    People are still talking about last week when President Obama gave a speech on healthcare and a Republican congressman yelled out, “You lie!” He yelled out “You lie!” to the president. At least the two sides are talking.

    New House rules say members of Congress cannot call the president a liar or hypocrite, and they cannot say he is dishonest. To which President Bush said, “Hey where were these rules when I was president?”

    According to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, the recession is over. Where is that “you lie” guy when you need him?

    – – Leno

    People are still mad at that congressman who heckled the President. Today one of President Obama’s advisers called Joe Wilson “A pimple on the ass of progress.” Then the adviser stressed that removing a pimple from the ass of progress would be covered by Obama’s healthcare plan.

    Yesterday in New York, President Obama had lunch with former President Clinton. Afterwards, Clinton told Obama, “Remember if Hillary asks, we had lunch and dinner then I slept over at your place.”

    President Obama is pushing so hard for healthcare, he’s going to appear on an unprecedented five shows this Sunday. What’s strange is, two of them are “Entourage” and “Family Guy.”

    – – Conan O’Brien

    After Kanye West interrupted Taylor Swift’s speech at the awards, President Obama was quoted as saying, “What a jackass.” It might be the first thing the president has said that everyone in the country agrees on.

    – – Jimmy Kimmel

    Kanye was pretty hurt when he heard the president called him jackass but Joe Biden said, “Ah, you get used to it.”

    Everybody’s talking about healthcare. Yesterday, Montana Sen. Max Baucus presented a new plan that contains both Democratic parts and Republican parts. He’s calling it the “Lady Gaga Option.”

    – – Jimmy Fallon

    ————————————————–

    Dr. Timothy McCarthy’ while receiving a medical award for creativity, reported his findings to the Fellows of Plastic Surgery, concluding with this case study: “Several years ago a woman was high on cocaine and marijuana and she rode a horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the woman’s hair and the horse’s ass. I was able to put them together and now she’s Speaker of the House!

  413. CNN, it seems to me that a lot of things could be considered mutilation of the body. Piercings, circumcision, plastic surgery?

  414. twe: Wow! Are those guys nuts? Aren’t they afraid they will be arrested [or worse] for making jokes about our pp and his friends? Maybe, not. Maybe, they got permission. What say you, o wise one?

  415. twe: What’s in your wallet? Don’t tell anybody!

  416. I spoke with the ACLJ office about 30 minutes ago. The man on the phone told me they are working on O being in direct violation of Sect. 9 of the constitution, due to him being sworn in as Chairman of the UN Security Council. Please pray for the Lord to give them a brilliant mind and to be endued with power from on High as they tackle this important global situation. In Jesus Name. GOD bless you all!!

  417. #

    carmen // September 21, 2009 at 10:23 am

    I spoke with the ACLJ office about 30 minutes ago. The man on the phone told me they are working on O being in direct violation of Sect. 9 of the constitution, due to him being sworn in as Chairman of the UN Security Council. Please pray for the Lord to give them a brilliant mind and to be endued with power from on High as they tackle this important global situation. In Jesus Name. GOD bless you all!!
    *******************************************

    Carmen…Thank you and keep us updated on this issue please!!!

  418. Please forward as you are led and able. If you are called to fast with this urgent time of intercession, ask the Lord about these 3 days: Sept 24th, 25th and 26th.

    Urgent Call to Prayer: Signs of the Times

    Convergence

    It is critical that the church in America understands the times and what needs to be done now. The natural things speak of the invisible. Natural happenings on the earth are revealing something that is going on in the spiritual realm. There is a great spiritual conflict with a rising tide of Islamic boldness being manifested. Several happenings are converging this week. First of all, our President has recently proclaimed, honored, encouraged the Muslim holy days of prayer and fasting called Ramadan. He was very silent on the National Day of Prayer but very vocal on the support of Ramadan. Interestingly at the same time a major Christian leader of the Emergent Church called for forty days of fasting and prayer in the same Ramadan period with the goal that the church will better understand our Muslim friends. We are all for understanding but we must have spiritual discernment as to the spiritual dark powers that are being invoked into our nation.

    Cause for Concern

    At the same time, on the 25th of September, Muslims are calling for a Muslim Day of Prayer in Washington DC (http://www.islamoncapitolhill.com/). They are calling for 50,000 Muslims to gather and pray on the DC Mall. This is the exact word of one of the Sheikhs who is leading this historic gathering, “Muslims should march on the White House. We are going to the White House so that Islam will be victorious, Allah willing, and the White House will become into a Muslim house.” These are not empty words. They speak of a dark spiritual intent and a coming day of great trouble to America.

    A Divine Moment

    Now one of these events is enough to awaken us to this significant throbbing moment, but when they all converge it becomes a massive spiritual alarm that must be responded to by the praying Church. However, I believe in this moment of divine providence God has raised up on the stage of history a little “Esther” that if we pray and fast for her she could be a major voice to expose the dark under-belly of Islam and radiate a bright hope for a day of salvation for Muslims in America.

    Headlines

    On Monday, Rifqa Bary, a young 17-year-old woman, will be in the headlines of US news.. Four years ago, while living in a very devout and radical Muslim home, Rifqa met Jesus in a powerful way as her savior. She hid her conversion, began praying secretly, and began hiding her bible from her parents. Then, on Facebook, her love for Jesus was exposed to the radical Muslim community in Ohio. Rifqa’s father demanded that she renounce Jesus or he would kill her as is commanded by the Koran. As a radiant believer in Jesus she refused to renounce her Lord and fled to Orlando where she was taken in and cared for by a Christian Church and family. Now, the father is appealing to the courts to bring her back under his custody. Major television networks have already covered her story. How must the Church of America respond in this moment for our sister who is a part of the Body of Christ?

    A Major Sign

    This convergence, I believe, is urgently summoning us in the midst of the rising tide of Islamic influence in America to recognize that our God is above every god and that if we return to Him with all of our hearts and call upon Him with fasting and prayer then God could use what the enemy meant for evil to bring about a great day of salvation for Muslims in America, of which Rifqa is but a major sign.

    Here is The Call

    First of all, we cannot be passive as a Church to let these kinds of developments go on without being challenged in the spirit. Our fight is not against Muslims, it is against principal intities, powers, and forces of darkness. We are calling the Church of America at the end of Ramadan, from September 21st through 25th, to five days of concerted prayer. On Monday, we must pray that God would grant supernatural wisdom to the courts so that the testimony of Jesus would be proclaimed and that the best situation for Rifqa and her family would take place. We must pray for Rifqa to be bold in proclaiming Jesus that even thousands of Muslims would hear and be awakened to the love of Christ. She has already said that this is not about her but about many Muslims coming to Jesus. We must pray for her lawyers who are being bullied, threatened, and challenged on every side. On Friday, September 25th, the Muslim Day of Prayer, we are calling the Church of America to fast and pray that Muslims would be moved by the Holy Spirit, convicted by the testimony of Christ, and even be visited by Jesus in dreams. We must pray that God would restrain the spiritual powers behind Islam and grant us the great awakening that we desperately need for America.

    Let us hear the call to prayer and not miss this moment,

    Lou Engle
    The Call

    CRITICAL EVENTS

    9-1-09 – The US began its turn in holding the rotating presidency of the 15-member UN Security Council. The role of president involves setting the agenda, presiding at its meetings and overseeing any crisis.
    9-14-09 – The new assembly of the United Nations opened with the new president of the General Assembly – the ambassador from Libya.
    At an unknown-to-me-at-this-time date – Obama will address the UN General Assembly followed by the Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi. He will also host a luncheon for visiting sub-Saharan African heads of state, another one for the dozen top UN peacekeeper-contributing nations, as well as host the traditional US evening reception for world leaders.
    9-18-09 – The Jewish New Year begins (5770)
    9-23-09 – See You At The Pole prayer rally on high school campuses.
    9-22 or 23-09 – Obama has called a meeting of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in New York. This meeting will require Netanyahu, defense minister Ehud Barak and foreign minister Lieberman to be absent from Israel over the New Year Festival – an obvious snub of this major Jewish celebration. It is expected that yet more pressure will be placed on Israel to give up land in that tiny country for “peace” to people who have vowed not to accept peace until Israel is obliterated.
    9-23-09 – Obama will meet with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.
    9-24-09 – Obama is scheduled to chair a Security Council session on global nuclear disarmament, the first such event by the 15-nation body.
    9-24/25-09 – The G-20, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank will meet in the Convention Center in Pittsburg, Pennsylvania. Mr. O will host this meeting. The primary purpose of this meeting will be to address the world monetary crisis.
    9-25-09 – 50,000 Moslems will gather opposite the ellipse in front of the White House for prayer with the intent of praying to Allah for victory and that the White House become a Muslim House.
    9-30-09 – The 30 days of Ramadan end.
    10-1-09 – The Communist Chinese flag will be allowed to fly at the White House.
    On-going – Security agencies are on high alert for terrorist activities as the FBI plans and conducts more raids in New York City.

    Sent to advance the Kingdom of God and His divine purposes in this hour.

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  419. Those of you smart enough to have signed up for RedState e-mail updates you alredy saw these others that haven’t this is what you are missing:

    Now compare these signs to the Conservative Protest ones then SHOVE THEM in the Erosionists’ Faces and tell them we don;t fall for their Pimpin For Obama and MSM LIES anymore.

  420. carmen: Thanks for the info…I will pray.

    Peace be with you…Linda

  421. Finally how about one of these with Obamaliar’s face?

    They already did this to Reagan “Bedtime for Bozo”, etc.

  422. i have a better take on this BO is pushing so hard for this socialist health “care” program he is even showing up on
    old re runs of
    Sanford and Son
    All in the Family
    and Brady Bunch !

  423. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Kim,

    As for circumcision, its taught in the bible…

    As for piercings…in the old days only ladies did this and only 2 times, once in each ear lobe.

    Now its so ridiculous, you’d think that if a abo met a teenager from the suburb late at night, it would be the Abo who got frightened!

    For piercings, some of the practictioners have a more serious psychological problem, I think…but then I am no expert…

    Plastic surgury….well if an accident ruined your face, I could understand it, but its mostly vanity, rarely makes anyone but more ugly…look at M.J….

    The Lord designed the face to be beautiful precisely because it is a-symmetic…most practicioners of p.s. don’t have the concept of art at that level to appreciate it. If you look at all the great painters who were masters of the faces of women, they always painted an assymetic face, and got stunningly beautiful results…

  424. Linda–you’re too kind! Thanks for the compliment. The glory, of course, goes to God.

    As to the humor–I just post them as I find them. There are others out there I wish I could post but can’t get to display individually.

  425. Remainder of post on Leo above!

    Evidence clearly shows that certain Nashville Policemen and an assistant district attorney conspired with Obama supporters to file FALSE charges against my husband in an effort to try and stop him from exercising his Constitutional Right to speak out against Obama.

    Please help me prevent the Obama campaign from TERRORIZING other families.

  426. Very interesting comments from Lame Cherry blog (Sept 18) re Orly,”Orly Taitz Flock Shootin” .

    Someone please refer this to Orly, as LC feels that she now has the ammo to demand O’s hidden records, if it is handled correctly.

  427. Peter: “Can’t like it” as my daughter used to say.

    It has been my experience that is far better to attack the policy rather than the person who is pushing it. Their own words speak for what they believe. I am not in favor of using posters such as those to make a point. It degrades the cause IMHO.

  428. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    As for the American Thinker Article against 3rd parties,

    I’ll reverse the argument:

    This year theer is so much outrage at both parties, that they will only serve to dilute the vast majority which will push for a Constitutional party…

    remember who gave us big government:

    BOTH THE DEMS AND THE REPULICANS

    and you think voting for one is better than the other?

    You got to be crazy

    We need signs:

    “Who gave us big government?”

    With a picture of a Republican Elephant using his nose to shake the tail of the Democratic Jack Ass…

  429. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Aristotle,

    If you could post the complete story somewhere inone place or give us a link, I can’t find anything at that site you created, that tells the story…where is this story about Leo the lawyer?

  430. twe: Of course, the Glory goes to God, but He sure gave you a gift! And…we get so serious in our discussions sometimes, we need the comic relief. I, for one, thank God for you!

  431. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/editorial-sept-21-2009-%e2%80%94-how-the-2-parties-have-corrupted-america/

    There is actually a SCOTUS decision which says, in laymans terms, that

    You have to pay taxes, even if the government does not follow the constitution…

    because you have no standing as a tax payer to question whether it does or not in court, and that it is dangerous for the Federal Court to respond to questions of what the Constitution means…

    these are my words, you can read the actual case in the link above…

  432. re tongue piercings–any dentist will tell you tongue piercings ruin the teeth

    As to tattoos or body piercings, here is a great site for Catholics which has a great discussion and guidelines to follow:

    http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:TYTU3zxBT6wJ:www.cuf.org/FaithFacts/details_view.asp%3FffID%3D233+tattoos+%22Catechism+of+the+Catholic+Church%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  433. Linda from NY: …and I thank God for you. May he bless you and keep you. May he make his light shine on you and give you peace in Christ Jesus.

  434. TO:
    Linda from NY // September 21, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Peter: “Can’t like it” as my daughter used to say.

    It has been my experience that is far better to attack the policy rather than the person who is pushing it. Their own words speak for what they believe. I am not in favor of using posters such as those to make a point. It degrades the cause IMHO.
    ================
    Linda I believe I didn’t make myself clear.
    When the Erosionists and teh Bedmate Media complain about some sign that we have SHOVE those in their faces.
    Fight FIRE with FIRE then drown the bastards LOL

  435. To All AXJ members and readers:

    Stay tuned follow the updates at the following link

    http://axj.puntoforo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2536&sid=8903cffcea191d07d67781a24664d53b

    The note below is on the above axj link

    * NOTE: Apparently Dr. Orly Taitz has obtained a true legally certified copy of the 1964 divorce decree and corresponding documentation that proves Mr. OBAMA was in fact not born in the USA, and will be presented to the Court in Santa Ana, CA on October 5, 2009 at 08:00am, and on the same day all parties will be legally served a copy as well.

    It has come to our attention that apparently a very prestigious law firm has contacted AXJ regarding certain documentation dating to 1964, which one of our members and investigators have discovered by accident in Hawiian Legal Archives. The original 1964 Obama/Dumham 1964 Divorce archived file has been found. This file includes the missing page number 11.

    Unfortunately for legal reasons AXJ will not able to give you updates at this point in time because of the importance of the information and documentation obtained.

    AXJ will also not release nor publish the information received from the third party unless they authorize its publication.

    AXJ has emailed them to this respect, and has invited them to directly publish the information on AXJ websites around the world.

    We at AXJ can only say that this information and documentation may change the course of politics in the United States.

    Email from AXJ Hawaii to me

    Dear Lynn,

    For security reasons they have preferred to remain anonymous and we have sent them a copy of your email.

    The say that if you are serious about this matter that you log into http://www.axjnews.com forum and blog you can post the information there.

    Apparently missing page 11 was an original certificate of birth which was removed from all records. Can you confirm this? Also they say the numbers on the Certificate of Live Birth supposedly obtained in 1961 does not correspond. They have already been threatened so all work at your end is appreciated

  436. CNN: One would think this would be the opportune time to start a Third Party, but both parties are split now, and there are so many different factions of both that would have to come together to form that Third Party. As a result of the debacle at the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, many left the Democratic Party. As a result of the person chosen to be nominee for the Republican Party, many Republicans refused to support him because he wasn’t conservative enough and therefore, did not vote. It was encouraging, however, to see people of all different political persuasions come together on 9-12 peacefully and protest. Still in all, it will be difficult [not impossible, mind you], IMHO, for all to come together into one strong, effective Third Party. We cannot even agree, at this point, what to call the New Party. Believe me, I would love to see it happen. I have been an unaffiliated voter for a long, long time because both parties are corrupt, and it is a struggle at each election cycle to vote with a clear conscience.

  437. Obama is currently being blackmailed by daddy Bush aka Obama’s fraudulent birth certificates, along with Obama’s closet homosexual affair
    with former ACORN employee, cocaine-snorting Larry Sinclair.

    http://blogs.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel

  438. Peter: Gottcha! I get it! Remind them of what they did to Bush and how he was portrayed. Still dislike those posters, though. Thanks for making your point “perfectly clear.” LOL

    Happy Day…Linda

  439. Prairie: Wow oh Wow! Thanks for sharing!

    BTW…written any poems lately?

  440. May I ask a tiny little favor? When you post a link, please post at least a hint of what’s at the link. I’m a little nervous about just clicking on a link that isn’t identifiable in and of itself.

    Thank in advance!

  441. Patriot Dreamer

    “Baucus’ cheaper Trojan horse”
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=110469

  442. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
    Did judge Land hand me the discovery through the back door?
    September 21st, 2009 thistle
    thistle-159@hotmail.com
    64.203.113.26 Submitted on 2009/09/21 at 5:37am
    ORLY PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING COMMENT. IT WAS IN AMERICAN GRAND JURY SITE: IMPORTANT REGARDING JUDGE LAND AND YOUR CASE………………

    Leon Brozyna Says:
    September 21st, 2009 at 4:09 am
    Have you considered a different possibility regarding Judge Land’s odd actions in the Rhodes case? Here’s a comment I just posted on Orly’s website; perhaps she’ll get to it tonight after filing her response to Judge Carter on defendants’ motion to dismiss (in the Barnett et al v Obama et al case).

  443. Greg Goss wrote:

    “September 21, 2009 at 11:20 am

    The best picture of the DC march. http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/capitol-view-lo-res.jpg

    Spectacular!

  444. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle @11:30 am, what is the comment and different possibility? Seems like part of that post is missing.

  445. http://biggovernment.com/
    ACORN Is a Symptom, Big Government Is the Diseaseby Dan Mitchell
    By overturning the rock and letting America witness the corruption at ACORN, Hannah and James have performed an incredibly valuable service. The rest of us now have an obligation to take the next steps. Shutting off the federal spigot to ACORN obviously is the immediate priority, but it is critically important that we also use this episode to explain that big government is inherently corrupt. The graft at ACORN was not an isolated example. The sleaze at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were not exceptions. The pay-to-play scandals at the Appropriations Committees are not once-in-a-lifetime occurences.

    As explained in this short video (alas, no exciting undercover revelations), the government’s bloated budget of nearly $4 trillion is a honeypot for special interests and their political lackeys. But it is not just a problem of wasteful spending. The massive regulatory apparatus creates similar opportunities for favor swapping and insider deals. And the tax code, with tens of thousands of pages of loopholes and special preferences, also is a rat’s nest of corruption.

  446. Morning Re-do,

    An answer to your question of 9/20/09 regarding the ingredients in seasonal flu shots 9(his is the list for 2009):

    #################################

    Egg proteins: including avian contaminant viruses

    Gelatin: known to cause allergic reactions and anaphylaxis are usually associated with sensitivity to egg or gelatin

    Polysorbate 80 (Tween80™)

    Formaldehyde

    Triton X-100

    Sucrose: table sugar

    Resin: known to cause allergic reactions

    Gentamycin: an antibiotic

    Thimerosal: mercury is still in multidose vials.

    Now, Thimerosal is a preservative and cause a bunch of problems, including Autism and other autoimmune disorders. The CDC states that there are still trace amounts of Thimerosal in seasonal flu vaccines. If you ask me, I don’t want to be injected with *any* substance that contains *any* mercury, no matter what the level!

    Polysorbate 80 (I always knew it as Tween 80) can cause you to call 911 with a severe allergic reaction.

    Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen.

    Triton X-100 is a powerful detergent mainly used in biochemistry labs.

    I think I’ll be passing on the seasonal flu vaccine this winter, as well.

    Hope this answered your question.

  447. dr_taitz@yahoo.com

    Michelle, Try sending it to her at the above.

  448. cq – Tom Heneghan’s whole blog is still insisting that Al Gore (ANAGRAM “La Ogre”) was robbed of the Presidency. NO PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY WHO LOST HIS OWN STATE (Tennessee) HAS WON THE PRESIDENCY.

  449. Sorry, Re-do….

    The first paragraph should read: ‘An answer to your question of 9/20/09 regarding the ingredients in seasonal flu shots (this is the list for 2009):’

    Today is my b’day and I’m pretty upset about it. It’s also Monday :(.

  450. Patriot Dreamer-Sometimes my mouse misbehaves go to Orly’s web-site, lot of interesting information re: the posting.

  451. Larry has been busy on case, thanks Larry

    http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

  452. LIASTEN FOR BIG NEWS ON NATL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS FRAUD AT 12NOON EST.

  453. Sue K: Happy Birthday! Hope your day is full of many blessings!

    I’m not gonna get shot, either.

    Happy Day…Linda

  454. Oh, SueK, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear SueK, Happy Birthday to you…….and many more!!!

  455. SueK-HAPPY BIRTHDAY-Please be happy about it. Make a wish, I think I know what it is. Obama is getting hit from all sides now-finally. This all should have been taken care of pre-election but the press too wimpy to follow-up on the storIes, so it is exploding now. To think little Hannah and James put all this garbage in motion. RICO can get rid of all the corrupt organizations-all of them. Starting with waste and fraud-nail every organization that tried to loot the government-that is WE THE PEOPLE.

  456. Patriot Dreamer

    ms. helga // September 21, 2009 at 11:39 am

    LIASTEN FOR BIG NEWS ON NATL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS FRAUD AT 12NOON EST.
    ***************************************
    Listen where?

  457. Patriot Dreamer

    Happy birthday, SueK!

  458. Linda, Kitty, and Michelle,

    Thank you so much (but I’m still not happy!)

    Yes, Obama and his thugs are coming down-Prairie’s post made me feel better.

    In lieu of any b’day celebrations/gifts, I’ve asked friends to sponsor me in a walk for a local animal shelter on 10/4. Although my mobility is starting to be compromised, I’m determined to do it! This small shelter (which receives no funding other than contributions) has been inundated with critters due to the mess Barky has made of the economy; people have lost their jobs and can no longer afford to keep their pets. Sad. So, I’m walking! My gift to them…

    No shots and no Barky!

  459. #

    OriginUnknown // September 21, 2009 at 3:34 am

    For those whom do not know who started the Idea of the FED and its backers I would highly recommend you read this. A time-line dating back to 1743, the connections and story is astounding

    http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

    The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, as is documented in the following timeline. However, before you jump to the timeline, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.
    ———————————————————-
    This proves the old “GOLDEN RULE” policy.
    And what is that?

    HE WHO HAS ALL THE GOLD-RULES

  460. In honor of our soldiers-this is the story on 60 Minutes re: prothesic arms. It is amazing what working together can accomplish.
    http://medgadget.com/archives/2009/04/latest_update_on_dod_darpa_and_dean_kamens_prostheses.html

  461. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle // September 21, 2009 at 11:30 am
    ****************************************
    OK, here’s the link to the rest of that post:

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=4426

  462. The ROTUS is on Tv …. AGAIN!

    Geeze!

  463. Many will not be getting shot this flu season. It is our responsibility to take care of our temple. Remember the four ACES vitamin A vitamin C vitamin E and Selenium. Take extra vitamin C at this time, build up your immune systems. Remember it doesn’t do you any good to just sit in the bottle, take it! I haven’t taken any pharmacy medications in years, check most any website for immune building herbs and vitamins they really do work wonders! GOD bless you all

  464. SueK-Those are the kind of gifts I love. I dog sat for my neighbor-about a week- real easy work, because I have great neighbors. She wanted to pay me, I said don’t be ridiculous. She said I’m going to make a donation to the pet shelter. They sent me a very nice thank you letter. This is just a suggestion: The pet shelters have resale shops and it works very well here-re: donations, volunteers. Palm Beach County has very stringent laws re: animal cruelty and elder abuse. They prosecute, also everyday the local stations highlight animals up for adoption. I’m going to see if I can find a video re: the cute little puppies, they rescued from a puppy mill. The poor little pooches were little 4 legged disasters. They showed the volunteers bathing them in a kiddie pool-they were little yorkies, lots of them. My construction brother had a job near where the puppies were being rescued. He said they had a mile long line of folks trying to see/adopt the dogs. He called the puppies rock stars they were that popular.

  465. #

    Patriot Dreamer // September 21, 2009 at 11:49 am

    ms. helga // September 21, 2009 at 11:39 am

    LIASTEN FOR BIG NEWS ON NATL ENDOWMENT OF THE ARTS FRAUD AT 12NOON EST.
    ***************************************
    Listen where?

    RUSH IS TELLING IT NOW

  466. **** New Post ****

  467. Michelle // September 21, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Great story, Michelle-thanks!

    Yes, there will be a fair after the walk and I’ll be bringing some extra $$$. I’m almost at my pledge goal; even a dollar helps!

    I have 6 small pets at home-all rescues. They allow me to live with them, as long as I provide the food and the vet care.

    Many at this local shelter are from puppy mills; the concept makes me sick!

    There are truly some good people out there such as your neighbor, and those who do the very tough job of rescue. Your brother must’ve been happy to see that line!

  468. Sue K: Count your blessings!

    1. You can WALK, TALK, and THINK by yourself!
    2. You have many friends here, there, and everywhere!
    3. God loves you, and so do we!
    4. Many people are working together for the good of all.
    5. The animals who do not get adopted go to Heaven with St. Frances!
    6. Out of every bad thing that happens, God makes something good!
    7. If the sun does not shine outside, we can count on it shining in YOU!
    8. CW gives us a place to talk and share while providing us with so much useful information.
    9. Without you, we would be lost trying to decipher all of that flu stuff!
    10. Look around you; I am sure you can find more blessings to count.

    Happy Day…Linda

  469. Prairie // September 21, 2009 at 10:54 am

    To All AXJ members and readers:

    Stay tuned follow the updates at the following link

    http://axj.puntoforo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2536&sid=8903cffcea191d07d67781a24664d53b

    The note below is on the above axj link

    *******************************************Prairie……I believe Orly has had this information for a while now and is the reason she wants the Kenyan birth document authenticated…..that missing page 11 is deemed to be the birth document that shows the FRAUD was not born in Hawaii!!!

  470. Linda from NY // September 21, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    God bless you, Linda, and thank you so much!

    I’ll e-mail this to myself, as well as all the nice greetings my friends here have sent :).

  471. Benson goes to the Supreme Court for all of us!!!

    This is a HUGE case.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd469.htm

  472. Do you really want that government flu shot?

    Would you rather choose the natural solution to Immune Heath, or do you prefer the government flu shot?

    http://thenaturaladvocate.blogspot.com/2009/09/do-you-really-want-that-government-flu.html

  473. SueK -I love your attitude about the dogs allowing you to live in their house. I tell my dog you’re the smart one. He stays home all day and “guards” this involves a lot of sleeping. He is a great big woos, but he has a bark that sounds very scary. So we pretend that he is a vicious, macho dog. Dogs are smart we work all day for their food and shelter and all they have to do is wag their tails. Wouldn’t have it any other way.
    While I was trying to find some video on the cute puppies I found some web-sites-The Humane Society is trying very hard to shut down the evil puppy mills. They had a lot of volunteers. The puppies here were a mess when they found them, in three weeks those volunteers had them looking like movie stars. God Bless all involved.

  474. carmen // September 21, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Thanks, Carmen and Aristotle….

    Carmen, I meant to post that vitamin D should be in there, too!

    I do have COPD and have upped my dose of ‘D’ for the winter, in addition to the supplements you mention.

    No, don’t want the gub’mint flu shot, so let’s tackle it naturally this year!

    On to the next post!

  475. Linda from NY-Sue K-that was very lovely what you sent to the Birthday Girl and so true. St. Francis of Assisi is one of my favorite saints. The last time my dog got a little sick, prayer to St. Francis and a little holy water. He got better immediately.

  476. Michelle // September 21, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Michelle, I wish I could have a dog or cat, but am severely allergic to both. I tried to adopt a dog last year (before I knew I was allergic) and it was a disaster.

    I’ve adopted those that the allergy testing says I can have: Rabbits, guinea pigs, and hamsters! They’re all helping me train for my walk (they make me run after them) and are doing a great job!

    Have a hard time reading puppy mill stories, but I’m glad they’re being outed, and I’ll keep contributing to the cause.

    Guess we should float over to the new post!

  477. Sue K: In my haste, I spelled St. Francis’ name wrong; please change ‘e’ to ‘i’…sorry…thanks.

    Thanks, Michelle, that was sweet of you to say.

  478. Happy Birthday SueK! …and many more! God Bless You!

  479. I like that you separate fate from destiny. There is something to be said for trying to account for the idea that we can sometimes fail to fulfill our destiny.

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