Steve King, Iowa congressman, Town hall meeting, Carroll Iowa Daily Times Herald, August 28, 2009 update, Obama birth certificate, Health care, VA hospitals

Congressman Steve King of Iowa held a town hall meeting recently. Apparently it was civil. After reading an article in the Daily Times Herald based in Carroll, Iowa, I would like to comment on a few statements that he made.

August 26, 2009

“Clearing some air with congressman King”

 

“King, who thinks Obama is clearly a native of Hawaii, addressed this issue in our interview after the town hall meeting.

Daily Times Herald: Unlike some of the town-hall meetings that are looped over and over again on cable news this one was exceedingly civil. You had some people bring up points that were obviously at odds with your viewpoint. One thing that has happened at some of these town-hall meetings that have been so highly publicized is that people have held up birth certificates and questioned the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency.

That’s not something I’ve ever seen you do, and I’ve actually heard you speak movingly about what it was like being there in January and watching Obama be inaugurated. Obviously some of these people that hold these views about Obama’s legitimacy are conservative.

Would you have any message for them? Do you think Obama’s a legitimate president, that this birther issue should be set side and that those people should move on on the issues?

Congressman King: “I spent my time before the inauguration to look into that because I thought it was the time to do so.

“We discovered working with a small group and their staff in the Library of Congress the microfiche copy of one of the two Hawaii newspapers that published the birth announcement of President Obama on Aug. 4, 1961.

“It was published on either Aug. 10 or 16. I looked at that copy, and we began to play that out on how would that actually be there in many of the public libraries in America if he wasn’t born in Hawaii.

“It almost comes down to, yes, that information could have been sent, but his mother would have had to imagine that she was protecting the interests of a future president in order to do such a thing.

“I don’t think anyone has that kind of clairvoyance, yet alone a young mother, at that time.

“I came to the conclusion that it’s improbable that Obama was not born in Hawaii as he says.

“I just don’t understand why he wouldn’t ask under Hawaiian law that the certificate of live birth, the real legitimate birth certificate, be released to the public. I’ve seen the one that they put out. It doesn’t look exactly like some of the others they’ve used to compare it.

“So I just wish the subject weren’t there. I think he could have avoided the subject if he would have just simply laid his birth certificate out.

“I don’t know what his motive for not doing that would be unless it would be something that is embarrassing, that he doesn’t want us to know, and, otherwise, I think he would have let us know. But he’s the one that has to answer that, and we have core public policy things to move forward on, and that’s not a priority of mine to dig into it.

“The truth will eventually emerge.” ”

Citizen Wells comments:

Since when does a birth announcement vet a presidential candidate?

Congressman King does question why Obama does not reveal his original long form birth certificate. However, he should demand that Obama do so.

“Daily Times Herald: You have a lot of concern about government involvement with health care. One place where that occurs right now, some would say successfully, others would have issues with it particularly in light of some of the stories that have broken in the last few weeks, is the Veterans Administration. If the government is terrible at running health care, should the services provided through the VA be privatized?

Congressman King: “I think our Veterans Administration does a good job with the health care that they deliver to our veterans. We’ve been expanding the clinic access in the district – Shenandoah and here (Carroll) and up in Spirit Lake. We continue to work on that. The standard that we want is I don’t want to see a veteran drive more than an hour to go to any clinic. That expansion’s taking place, although the Veterans Administration deserves the lion’s share of the credit.”

Citizen Wells comments:

If congressman King believes that the VA is doing a good job of health care, he is ill informed. A cursory examination of recent news reveals that there are major problems in VA hospitals. I personally know someone that was butchered in a VA hospital. I have an aunt that is active with the American Legion and she works with a lot of veterans being processed at a VA hospital. She has told me about many problems that the veterans have.

The VA hospitals have outlived their usefulness. The Government has no business managing healthcare. I am certain that if the VA hospitals were closed and the money guaranteed for the veterans at non government hospitals, the cost would go down and most important, the quality would go up.

“None of the attendees challenged Barack Obama’s constitutional legitimacy as president as has been the case elsewhere where so-called “birthers” have hijacked elected officials’ town-hall meetings to charge that Obama wasn’t born in the United States.”

Citizen Wells comment:

Note the insulting, condescending tone. Using the term birthers for concerned Americans and using the term hijacked for exercising their First Amendment rights.

Congressman King and the reporter require educating.

It is our job to do so.

Read more:

http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=25&ArticleID=8643&TM=48534.34

 

Thanks to commenter ccwarrior and the Count Us Out blog for the info.

** Update – This was posted by commenter JustMe **

“CW,

the VA is a sorry excuse for health care, especially given the fact the folks that gave life/limb to protect our freedom. My husband, a physician, until earlier this year could see some Veterans in private practice (after jumping through a bazillion hoops). No more! Don’t know exactly what’s changed but know that it has.

Now they have to drive great distances just to be seen in a clinic. Then must drive even greater distances (in the case of our west TX town… they must drive to another state) to have access to a hospital. None of it makes sense.

They are also having difficulty getting their meds. My husband is greatly saddened to see how these people are treated.

If we got rid of the VA system, I bet we could afford to have healthcare for all. The operating costs have to be enormous.

My gardener’s father is a Vet and has cancer. He has had to travel great distances recently just to be seen. He said the VA has written him off and referred him to hospice to die. He isn’t ready for hospice at this point. They also refused to consider a small procedure to put his “elimination system” back together that would have allowed him and his care givers an easier time.”

24 responses to “Steve King, Iowa congressman, Town hall meeting, Carroll Iowa Daily Times Herald, August 28, 2009 update, Obama birth certificate, Health care, VA hospitals

  1. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Magna Carta,

    Video editing, its out of my league…

    Will somene help Magna?

    Magna, at least if you can save it to a DVD, maybe there is a patriot who will do the editing for you, if you send it to him/her?

  2. Patriot Dreamer

    Editorial:

    “At what point do we run out of money?” President Obama was asked in May. “Well, we are out of money now,” he replied. That was when he projected the deficit to be $7 trillion over the next 10 years. Now his administration admits the number likely will reach $9 trillion. We sure are out of money — and the true deficit number probably is at least another $1 trillion bigger.

    for the rest of the article:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/27/the-10-trillion-deficit-disaster/

  3. CW,

    the VA is a sorry excuse for health care, especially given the fact the folks that gave life/limb to protect our freedom. My husband, a physician, until earlier this year could see some Veterans in private practice (after jumping through a bazillion hoops). No more! Don’t know exactly what’s changed but know that it has.

    Now they have to drive great distances just to be seen in a clinic. Then must drive even greater distances (in the case of our west TX town… they must drive to another state) to have access to a hospital. None of it makes sense.

    They are also having difficulty getting their meds. My husband is greatly saddened to see how these people are treated.

    If we got rid of the VA system, I bet we could afford to have healthcare for all. The operating costs have to be enormous.

    My gardener’s father is a Vet and has cancer. He has had to travel great distances recently just to be seen. He said the VA has written him off and referred him to hospice to die. He isn’t ready for hospice at this point. They also refused to consider a small procedure to put his “elimination system” back together that would have allowed him and his care givers an easier time.

  4. JustMe.
    Thanks for the input. I added it to the article.
    Perhaps we can get real health care reform, close VA hospitals and give
    veterans the quality health care they deserve.
    Let’s push this when we speak of health care reform.

  5. CW……………………………………………………..

    Have you read John Charlton’s article which appears on The Post and Email? If you havn’t read you might want to. There is a person named Ruth who was once prominent in Obama senior’s life He met her when he was going to Harvard. She was an elementary school teacher. Maybe somebody should try to locate her.Perhaps she would have something of interest to offer. I would suspect that she would not heve liked Ann Dunham very well since she was the person who provided the money for Battack senior’s divorce from Dunham.

  6. Thanks CNC.I have a killer computer.I have no excuse.I will sit down and try the tutorial on my apple and then take it from there.I just gotta get a feel for uploading on u-tube. What basic steps there are and if I need to pay for it.I want to share the Texas event with you guys.
    Anyway..here’s the CDC downplaying white House scare tactics:
    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=168624

  7. To access the article simply use your search engine, and type in The Post and Email

  8. JUST ANOTHER NAIL INTO THE COFFIN OF THE ONCE GREAT “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”

    I pray Glen Beck awakes us soon enough.

  9. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/texas-rises/

    Gerry Donaldson of Drawline.org is interviewed just before heading off to Austin TX for the great rally tomorrow, which will demand state sovreignty!

  10. Patriot Dreamer

    Qaddafi ‘s son says it’s “obvious” that efforts to free the convicted killer were tied to lucrative contracts with the oil-rich state.

    “Why be so angry?” asked Saif al-Islam al-Qaddafi in an interview with the Scottish Herald.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,543979,00.html

  11. Patriot Dreamer

    venice @11:03

    Thanks for sharing that article. It makes some important points.

  12. For those who have not heard Beck discuss the “birther” issue — this YouTube from Media Matters.

    We should be VERY careful about these MSM talkers.

    ==================

    “Glenn Beck Actually Shows Some Decency Calling Birthers Morons”

  13. Thanks Patriot Dreamer,

    But do you really think America will stand for this? No matter when they realize it. The article says it may be too late when America finally wakes up. I don’t think it will ever be too late. It is not in the genetic structure of the people period.

    There will be mass rioting, but the government will not win.

  14. CW,

    Most welcome, CW. Wouldn’t it be interesting to see the VA operating expense numbers? Until recently, it never made sense to me why they had their own separate medical care. Save that for another time.

    I’d like to push for health INSURANCE reform rather than health care reform. One of the key talking points being used to hype this reform is “pre-existing” conditions. We’ve all had that fear when signing up for insurance.

    Physicians have NO problem treating patients with pre-exiting conditions…that’s what they do day in and day out! This is a term that applies to the health INSURANCE companies, not health care companies.

    What we really need is health insurance reform and, of course, tort reform. As has been discussed countless times, we have some of the best health care in the world.

    New laws governing health insurance companies/coverage would make more sense and could be done without expanding the federal government as the current bill proposes to do. Standardizing the coverage across state lines would be a good place to start.

  15. *** new Post ***
    You can listen live!
    The interview is over but Larson is still commenting on

  16. Azgo and CNN – the expose by Guliani in serendipity is so enlightening and explains the why and how we arrived at this moment in time – it is up to us to reinstitute the constitution – fire off the real amo of our founders – its all here/ there for a our protection and with focus on the target we will correct the ills inflicted on our nation dating back to 1871 . We must educate – put the info out there for all to see and the truth will become our light . Isn’t it ironic these so called elected servants in name only have turned us into slaves of their foreign manipulated bloated government – we are where they come to feed their gluttonist bellys and I think , I know we have had enough !!! We are not slaves to a government – we are the sovereigns – we the people must reduce the overzealous government – this is why small government is so
    necessary to keep greed /temptation in check – to manipulate our money is to enslave us to the system and retracts our freedom to be free individuals – the Emmancipation Proclamation was as important to the slaves of the 17th 18th century as it can be to the 21st century – Greed in the hands of government and foreign intrusion invites the class system where someone becomes the slave – WE THE PEOPLE are serving the government ‘s obese gut . It should make us vomit because we allowed this by not being informed and schooled in historical fact to prevent history from repeating itself .

  17. Patriot Dreamer

    venice // August 28, 2009 at 11:24 am

    Thanks Patriot Dreamer,

    But do you really think America will stand for this? No matter when they realize it. The article says it may be too late when America finally wakes up. I don’t think it will ever be too late. It is not in the genetic structure of the people period.

    There will be mass rioting, but the government will not win.
    *****************************************
    I hope and pray that it is not too late.

  18. The Town Halls are proving to be the megaphones to get our voices heard on “hey wait a minute you work for us ” not we work to pay you and everyone other ass kissing group that has figured out how to steal our hard earned sweat money !!!!
    God is the answer – we must return to the “Faith of our Fathers – and God has intentionally been taken out of as many places as possible – OUR COUNTRY IS BASED IN GOD WE TRUST …… one Nation under God , this is our strength as it has been the means of destroying us by taking Him out !!!!!!

  19. Nancy P.,

    Thanks for sharing your inspiring/touching post about Medal of Honor Recipient, Ed Freeman, talk about going above and beyond the call of duty. Rest In Peace, Mr. Freeman.

  20. REMINDER MAKE PLANS.

    Prayer & Protest on DC
    September 12.
    Load up family and make it a Patriotic in Honor of God, Family, Country, Constitution and the Founders that sacrificed much more.

    See you in DC so we can end this Insurgency Preisdency.
    Not the Buck Stops Here, but Trillions Non-Stop and Gush up Poverty.

    Minutemen (Modern) Organize Rise Up, Stand Up SEE YOU IN DC Sept 12, 2009

  21. Please go to this website, The Honolulu Advertiser,

    and read paragraph 12 & 13 where the author of the article writes that Obeyme was born in Indonesia.

    ??

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