Obama passport fraud, Kenyan birth certificate, Obama fraud, Harris murder, Indonesia, Pakistan, John Brennan, Orly Taitz, Pastor Manning, Youtube video

Every aspect of Barack Obama’s life is a lie and a fraud. The Obama birth certificate and country of birth is just one part of a tangled mess of corruption.

“Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July.”

“During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation.
Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.”

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“Key witness in passport fraud case fatally shot”

“key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday.

Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department’s Criminal Investigations Division.”

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Thanks to commenter Jacqlyn Smith for the video info.

185 responses to “Obama passport fraud, Kenyan birth certificate, Obama fraud, Harris murder, Indonesia, Pakistan, John Brennan, Orly Taitz, Pastor Manning, Youtube video

  1. OriginUknown

    First to post,

    Obama is a Fraud!!

    Have a nice day. =)

  2. I heard that the Kenyan Cirt was found to be a fraud.
    Something about the country being incorrect.
    Anyway both cirts are posted on my blog for side by side comparison.

  3. Mob tactics abound.

    The last I read no one was actively pursuing the murder investigation of either of these two (actually 3) men. Where are their parents? I’d be screaming at the top of my lungs to be heard. Not a peep as far as I can tell.

    Rev. Manning was the first person I heard talk about these murders within O’s church.

    Heard a great interview with Steve Qualye on Alex Jones’ show yesterday about the H1N1 “pandemic.” He indicated there are at least 100 top scientists that have died mysterious deaths. They were all involved in bio-weapon development. Then, of course, there are the Clinton’s and their trail of blood baths.

  4. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    An interesting post at WND, forums:

    The Obama Birth Story is that his mother Dunham met his father Obama in Russian Language Class. This class was in the Winter Semester, which began in Dec. But Obama, if born at full term, must have been conceived a month before they met!

    So by this detail, of meeting in Russian Class, Obama seeming admits Obama Sr. is not his father.

    Can we document this Obama Story about meeting in Russian Class? And when that Class began?

  5. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I will add, I believe that Obama Sr. is the father, I am just pointing out the the Obama Story is riddled with inconsistencies…

  6. Nancy Peacock

    Merrily we roll along, roll along, roll along . . . good morning, Patriots!

  7. Is Farah’s big news the darn timeline? If so….I’m not seeing how this is big.

  8. Jacqlyn Smith

    CW—-You are welcome…but I found later that someone else had posted this before me on the last thread. Oh well….at least we got it out there!

  9. Jacqlyn Smith

    Sandy….I don’t think so!!1

  10. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=akA7XABFTuSs

    Obama’s numbers fall on health care and the economy.

  11. A question for our Legal Eagles-

    It is apparent Sotomayor will be confirmed today. My question: Since The Usurper placed her name to be SCJ,will she have to recuse herself regarding any matters brought before the SC in regards to The USURPER’S elegibility?

  12. I have that pissing into the wind feeling this morning….

  13. ms helga, My experience with the law has been primarily on the wrong side of it, but I believe there is president with the appointee that Chester Arthur made…of course I could be way off base.

  14. I’m with you, greg….I think, given the degree to which it’s painfully obvious that the entire country (other than the 15-20% of whackos who just want to watch things burn) is waking up, whoever is actually running this show…the Rockefellers, et. al….they’re most likely realizing that they’re going to have to speed up their timeline. I certainly hope not, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see something major happen in this country before the spring.

  15. On another note…my son wants me to take him to Lexington and Concord today.

    I’ll say a prayer for our country and all of us at Captain Parker’s rock – the first line of the minutemen.

  16. http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/how-many-obama-voters-feel-let-down/

    The array of voters who have been let down by Obama is impressive.

  17. Greg Goss- If she has to recuse herself and we win a Constitutional Conservative Congress in 2010 we will be able to “Throw The Bum Out”

  18. Would that be Concord as in Corcord grapes?
    I just bought some yesterday,never tried them before..wow..they were amazing!

  19. Don’t know if its the same Concord….but the Concord minutemen kicked some serious British ass!

  20. Toptruth —

    The KBC is very likely a forgery — but the jury is still out.

    However, it has NOTHING to do with the “country.”

    The Republic of Kenya WAS referred to as the “Republic of Kenya” during the entire time between the declaration of independence in December 1963, leading up to the inauguration of President Jomo Kenyatta on June 1, 1964, and recognized independence in December 1964, when the first postage stamps were issued using the name “Republic of Kenya.”

    There were also many “hold-overs” of British Civil Servants who “stayed behind” to help with the transition to full independence, so there is no problem with the KBC for that reason, either.

  21. Greg….just tried to add you as a friend on facebook but having trouble with the site.

    Anybody else having trouble with facebook today?

  22. Yes….can’t get anything done on Facebook, either

  23. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obamacare_and_me.html

    An important article written by a physician on the realities of Obamacare.

    The truth is that medical practices epitomizes a society’s ability to look after its own. When front line workers are at best under solid control of the state, and at worst under tyranny, irreversible damage takes place.

    This is literally like the atomic bomb in slow motion.

  24. John Feeny, Another New Englander, I hope to have a BBQ when BHO does the purp walk, Re-do doesn’t seem to be in favor of that…lol, but I live in Hudson NH and any an all birthers are welcome.

  25. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    WHY “COAST PROVINCE” on the Kenyan CoR is erroneous:


    “1962: Kenya reorganized into Central, Coast, Eastern, Northern, Nyanza, Rift Valley, and Western regions, and the Nairobi area. By 1970 the status of the regions had changed to provinces.
    1963: North-Eastern province formed from Northern and part of Coast. ”

    Therefore the Kenyan CoR from early 1964, should say, “Coast Region” not “Coast Province”.

    Its a forgery…man!

  26. John Feeny & Magna Carta

    Yes, that is the Concord of Concord Grapes. Go to this link and download the pdf file where the link indicates:


  27. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Kenyan Newspaper dost protest too much about this Kenyan CoR, we’ve been discussing


    They are living in denial. In America they are equated to lunatics, but their push to drop anything credible to force President Obama out of office includes forgery in the land of Obama’s father.

    The group — the birthers — are the fringe “lunatics” who insist Obama is not a natural-born citizen — a US constitutional requirement for the presidency.

    Russian-born lawyer, dentist and estate agent Orly Taitz, on the eve of Obama’s 48th birthday, told CNN’s David Shuster: “Your listeners need to know the truth”.

    But the birth certificate purporting Mr Obama was born in Kenya differs with genuine certificates issued in the early 1960s, the Nation can reveal.

    Certificates issued during the colonial period were marked “Colony and Protectorate of Kenya”. Today’s have the logo of the Government of Kenya, with a seal.

    Orly, the most prominent anti-Obama “birther”, recently released a document entitled “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” stating Obama was born on “4th August, 1961 at Coast General Hospital.”

    The supposed copy dated 17th February 1964 carries the signature of deputy registrar Joshua Simon Oduya, along with the inscription “Office of the Principal Registrar, Coast Province, Republic of Kenya.”

    Researchers point out that while Kenya became an independent nation in December 1963, it remained known as the Dominion of Kenya until December 1964 — 10 months after the “certified copy” was allegedly made.

    The document also refers to the signature of “registrar E. F. Lavender,” which, The Washington Independent points out, “happened to be the name of a popular soap in Kenya.”

    The Independent also quotes Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan embassy in Washington, as calling the claims madness. “His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya,” he said.

    A British professor in African history points out the term “Coast Province” could not have been used in early 1964, Dan Branch, of the University of Warwick, said at that time, Kenyan provinces were referred to as “regions.”

    The “birthers” attract some media attention in the US. Officials there have said repeatedly that they have no doubt about the authenticity of an Obama birth certificate indicating the president was born in Honolulu, the state’s capital city.

  28. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    What is glaring about this Kenyan Newspaper report is that it does not cite any evidence from Kenya, but quotes an internet site in DC (Washington Independent) and a Professor in Warwick England.

    It looks like the Kenyan Paper’s article may have been written outside of Kenya — But maybe that is too strong of an statement…

    As for the “Dominion of Kenya”, Kenya’s own constitution of 1963 styles it a Republic…

  29. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I can find no links to a soap in Kenya called Earth Friendly Lavender, but I do in England and the USA.

    Doesn’t the Nation know which soaps are for sale in Kenya?

  30. CNN —

    Here is the actual history — from September 2007, i.e. written BEFORE all this muddled history.


    “Coast Province” title is used by Robertson in 1961 —

    Then acting Prime Minister, Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, the British government and the Sultan of Zanzibar declined to grant the strip autonomy.

    In a letter dated October 5, 1963, Kenyatta bound his government to some undertaking in recognition of the coastal strip.

    “I have the honour to refer to the discussions held between our respective governments on the subject of the coastal strip and to place on record the following undertakings by the Government of Kenya,” reads the letter to the prime minister of Zanzibar.

    His note further reads: “The free hold titles to land in Coast region that are already registered will at all times be recognised. Steps will be taken to ensure the continuation procedure for the registration of new free hold titles and the rights of free holders will at all times be preserved”.

    The letter was used as a legal instrument binding the Government to respect the status quo of land prior to independence.

    As revealed by a report prepared by Robertson dated November 23, 1961, some people were advocating for an independent Coastal State before independence: “I recommend that if any system of regional or county administration is set up in Kenya, [[[the Coast Province of Kenya should be one of the counties]]].”

    In 1964, Kenyatta used his office to send signals to the international community that Kenya might renege on some commitments made before independence.

    In his note reference “EXT 237/003A of March 25, 1964”, addressed to the Secretary General of the United Nations, Kenyatta informed the United Nations of his Government’s intention to review all pre-independence treaties and agreements and determine which of the pacts would be honoured, abrogated or modified after appropriate notice to interested parties.

    Tracing the historical perspective of the land issue, the former CKRC commissioner, writes: “In 1895, the Sultan gave the British power to administer the ten-mile coastal strip subject to their respecting the existing Kadhi’s Courts, among other conditions. The British did so and declared a protectorate over the Coast while the rest of Kenya was a colony proper. The Sultan, however, retained sovereignty over the ten-mile Coastal Strip. During the last years of the independence struggle and at the start of the Lancaster House Constitutional talks in 1961, the status and fate of the coastal strip came up for determination.”

    As a severance pay, the British government was to pay the Sultan of Zanzibar £100,000 for loss of sovereignty, and a further £400,000 as repayment of forced loan of £200,000, made in 1895.

  31. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Now we have grounds to write the Nation and ask them to back up their report with images of an Actual certification, and tell the public something about the government investigation done.

    The Nation is one paper of a large syndicate which styles itself independent, but which seems to parrot the MSM here in the USA…

    The other strange thing about this report from the Nation is that there is no by-line attributing the report to a specific reporter…

  32. College Records ?? What do they say???
    Elected by economic manufactured crisis?
    article http://www.investigatingobama.blogspot.com
    Acorn fraud and foreign money?? Illegal??

  33. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Yes I saw that article yesterday, but if you read it, you have to ask yourself was Robertson naming it, or suggesting the name for it. There were no Provinces in Kenya back then, only Regions. But they may have been called popularly provinces. The question is not what they were popularly called, but what appeared on official government documents…

  34. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    However, the word is now out in Kenya, thanks to Dr. Taitz,

    They are dismissing the rewards for proof,


    but when these rewards become known, it will be impossible to keep someone from getting their hands on the original documents, which Bishop McRae says exist in Kenya, showing he was born there…

  35. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Here’s the contact info for the Daily Nation:

    Print (Daily Nation, Saturday Nation, Sunday Nation, The EastAfrican, Taifa Leo, Taifa Jumapili)

    Email: newsdesk@nation.co.ke
    Tel. +254 20 3288430/7/8
    +254 20 2225278
    +254 20 3288000
    Fax. +254 20 2213946

    Lets start a letter writing campaign…suggestions of what we should say?

  36. Thanks TWE… very interesting.I just had the guts to watch Orly MSNBC interview. It was kinda funny.I really think people will still connect with her though. She is taking on a big’un and the public will know this and how ‘activist” the media is these days. I don’t think its as bad as some reported. What I really loved though was when the interview was over and it went from three to two on the screen..those two anchors were fixing their hair back,man! It was as though a tornado had blown through!

  37. Problems with Twitter, Facebook at the same time?

    Any other social networks down? Does it have to do with Farah’s promised Tweet?

    Am I becoming TOOOOO cynical?

  38. Nancy Peacock

    I cried for America this morning. And then I said as prayer.


  39. 9 pm eastern vaccine shots

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  40. CNN —

    Perhaps here is the best explanation for Obama’s “alleged” birth in Mombasa — he already had a wife and two children in Kenya.

    Obama, Sr. WAS a POLYGAMIST at the time — just maybe he needed the protection of the Mohammedan Marriage Act — which of course resumes the argument whether or not Obama was ALSO born a Mohammedan — but we won’t go there!

    [What’s the point — the political references on the forged KBC are in fact accurate — therefore, forger is very, very good at her/his trade.

    In other words, the facts on the document are accurate — amazingly so!]

    [Also, in the following article are the full name and title of the Commissioner, Robertson]


    The British Government and Sultan of Zanzibar also appointed a Commissioner, Mr James R. Robertson, to study the issue of the Coastal Strip, consult all those concerned and report to them.

    In his report, he recommended that the Strip be joined with Kenya subject to the Kenya Government guaranteeing the existence of Kadhis Courts among other conditions.

    Prime Minister Jomo Kenyatta and the Prime Minister of Zanzibar, Mr Shamte, on behalf of the Sultan of Zanzibar, then signed an agreement in October, 1963, whereby the Sultan of Zanzibar relinquished his claim of sovereignty over the Coast to Kenya in return for Mzee Kenyatta guaranteeing the continued existence of the Kadhis Courts among other undertakings.

    When the independence constitution was written, the Kadhis Courts were enshrined under the chapter on the Judiciary.

    At Independence, the Kenya Government expressed its desire not to be bound automatically by all the pre-independence treaties entered into by the colonial Government.

    Nevertheless, the Independence Constitution of 1963 enshrined the Kadhis Courts under Chapter 5 in the Judiciary, and thereafter Parliament passed the Kadhis Courts Act, the Mohammedan Marriage and Divorce Registration Act and the Mohammedan Marriage, Divorce and Succession Act, to make these courts fully operational.

  41. sandy // August 6, 2009 at 11:42 am

    WND’s now got the Kenyan fake story:


    I swear is WND a bigger idiot than we think? It’s not a birth certificate, it’s a Certified Copy of Registration of Birth, or CCRB. It’s nearly identical to a COLB in nature.

    Sheesh, even the folks who are investigating can’t get it right. A word to the wise at World Net Daily:

    Get your act together and compare apples to apples.

    Not that it matters. Only the Kenyan government can attest to its authenticity and we all know how “plausable” that’s gonna be.

  42. Funny, that just the other day WND said they’ve seen documents similar to Orlys in the same time era, and they appear to be identical.

    Now they are saying the opposite, and showing what is supposedly a real birth certificate.

    Isn’t Orlys a Certified Copy of Registration of Birth? It’s not the original. It’s somewhat of a COLB from what i understood.WND is showing what they are now calling a “Birth Certificate”

    So, is it possible that Orlys Kenyan BC is still legitimate?

  43. Twitter is back up now Farah.

    Waiting on that big Tweet

  44. Next time this faux Democratic party a/k/a Democrats occupying the White House and Congess give you a hard time about any questions on any subject have them refer to this.
    Question everything.
    This is a portion of the speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961. “The President and the Press” before the American Newspaper Publishers Association.


    The website where it was located and downloaded the entire speech 13MB and was also able to obtain and print the text transcript is at http://www.jfklibrary.org. (Thanks Tom)!
    The file is only about 5 min long. Below is copied from the transcript:
    “The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.”
    In my efforts to provide you a transcript of the attached file, I have discovered that the above paragraph is word for word the first 1:26.
    The next 3 paragraphs and the first sentence of the next paragraph were omitted. I do not know why since I do not know what the editor of the original speech had in his or her mind. The file continues …..
    “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
    Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.”
    End at 2:28 – This is a solid piece in the transcript but ends mid paragraph.
    Several more paragraphs of the transcript are skipped and the file continues…….
    “No President should fear public scrutinity of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.
    I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers– I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: “An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.” We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them.
    Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed– and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First (emphasized) Amendment– the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution– not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and sentimental, not to simply “give the public what it wants”–but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.
    This means greater coverage and analysis of international news– for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security…
    This part ends at 4:52. mid sentence. It left out “–and we intend to do it.” It also skips a paragraph and then the file continues …
    “And so it is to the printing press–to the recorder of mans deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news– that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent.”

  45. Fernley Girl

    A question for someone who knows more about PS than I. If someone created a document in PS, printed it and then took a digital photo of the image the layers wouldn’t show up after the digital image was posted on the web, right? If a document posted on the web can be taken apart in PS then it MUST be a created document, right? And, an uploaded photo of a created document cannot be discerned to be created?

  46. Patriot Dreamer

    ms. helga // August 6, 2009 at 9:47 am

    A question for our Legal Eagles-

    It is apparent Sotomayor will be confirmed today. My question: Since The Usurper placed her name to be SCJ,will she have to recuse herself regarding any matters brought before the SC in regards to The USURPER’S elegibility?
    I would say that she would have a conflict of interest and should recuse herself from any Supreme Court actions or decisions regarding Obama’s legitimacy. Not always easy to predict what the Supremes will do, though.

  47. Fernley Girl

    If you create a document if PShop and save it as a jpg. or save for web, it flattens the image (as in it is no longer in layers).

    If you print that document out, lay it on a table to take a photo of it, then download it onto your computer, it is ‘still a flat image’;unless, you open it up in photoshop, and start adding more layers to the document, such as text or photo layers.

  48. Obama’s Approval Rating Down to 50 Percent, According to Poll
    Posted August 6, 2009
    By David Saltonstall

    The stock market
    may finally be rising, but President Barack Obama’s poll numbers are headed down – and are now balanced precariously around the 50% mark.
    Those who were willing to give him the benefit of doubt gone. I think he worked very hard to get these ratings and I think they will go lower as more people see what a horror this administration really is. Last night Criminal Minds did a show on cults. At the top of the pyramid was the leader, second tier die hards and bottom tier followers. For Obama the followers are leaving, which just leaves him with die hards, statically maybe 5 per cent of his base.

  49. Please correct my ignorance but the document Orly has I thought was something requested in 1964 and it only stated certain limited information but more than the Hawaii one. Could that possibly mean that the form of that document was different from those examples which were actually issued in 1961 that WND found and were the actual birth certificates?

  50. @Fernley Girl :

    When a JPEG image file is created from a PS project, all the layers are flatten. It’s then “impossible” to detect the layers. However it is possible to see some imperfections if the layers aren’t perfectly made.

  51. Patriot Dreamer

    observer, from what I have seen, the document that Orly is trying to authenticate is similar to Hawaii’s certificaTION of live birth (the “short” form). What we want to see is Hawaii’s “long” form, which they call a certificate of live birth. Seems to me that what WND has found is more similar to Kenya’s long form, and as such such not be used to authenticate Orly’s short form Registry of Birth, because you’re not comparing apples to apples.

  52. Fernley Girl

    TY, Zeehopper and The South.

  53. observer-as far as I know that document was pulled re: the divorce action, so that might indicate the discrepancies. I think Orly has on her web-site all the pages plus missing page 11 which might be what was submitted. Where did it come from Dr. Orly could not say due to the standard death threats, but I was thinking Obama backed his cousin Odinga resulting in some kind of bloodbath in Kenya. Maybe one of the victims families made it his/her personal mission to get that birth certificate, just had to bide their time, just a theory of mine-but I could see someone doing that. For example: you got away with murder, but I’m not going to let you get away with this.

  54. Jacqlyn Smith


    JeffM // August 6, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    sandy // August 6, 2009 at 11:42 am

    WND’s now got the Kenyan fake story:


    I swear is WND a bigger idiot than we think? It’s not a birth certificate, it’s a Certified Copy of Registration of Birth, or CCRB. It’s nearly identical to a COLB in nature.

    Sheesh, even the folks who are investigating can’t get it right. A word to the wise at World Net Daily:

    Get your act together and compare apples to apples.

    Not that it matters. Only the Kenyan government can attest to its authenticity and we all know how “plausable” that’s gonna be.


    Jeff—I agree…..WND seems to not know what is what and that this isn’t a copy of the BC….I hope someone twitters that to Farah!!

  55. I’m done playing arm chair detective. It’s been fun but I have a Vacation to enjoy. As I said before you can’t prove or disprove anything from a digital copy or the Original. Kenyan or Aussie. Forging Fake COPIES is the easiest thing to do. Type in Kenyan Birth Certificate at Flickr and you’ll find that even Chewbacca was born in South Australia. The real detectives that Orly hired will do the real work. They’ll find out if her BC is real or not which is after all what she’s trying to do. She hasn’t bee running around screaming she has the proof. She’s trying to find out if she does. If any thing it’ll help her case, If the Kenyan is fake, because she can show it to the judge and say that someone is going through a lot of effort to discredit her. Why do that unless there’s something to hide? We’ll just have to wait and see.

    Just do this for fun Guys.

  56. Sorry, that was Digital copy “OF” the original. Got to learn to Proof read.

  57. Patriot Dreamer – Thanx.


  58. I think WND is way out of line for even putting up that article today.

    What the hell is wrong with Farah? Has someone sent him a photo of his wife and kids with cross hairs on it?

    They’re showing what they are calling a “birth certificate” today, and claiming it’s different than Orlys, so therefor, Orlys must be fake.

    Orlys Kenyan BC is a short form basically of the origina bc. It is not the original, and is not claiming it as such.

    Something very fishy with WND in my opinion today.They have completely went against everything they have previously stated about personally seeing other documents in the same time era, that appear to be IDENTICAL.

    Why the sudden 180 ?

  59. Patriot Dreamer

    I’ve finally been able to access Joseph Farah’s (WND) Twitter:

    The import is this: Do we even know with any certainty who Obama’s parents were?

    about 15 hours ago from web
    Another part coming Friday or Monday

    about 15 hours ago from web
    Part of it dropped today — but I don’t think people get the significance of the Stanley Ann Dunham story

    about 15 hours ago from web
    Lots of folks asking when the big bombshell was going to drop — the one I teased on Twitter…

    about 15 hours ago from web

  60. Patriot Dreamer

    ms.helga // August 6, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Patriot Dreamer – Thanx.

    ms.helga, what’s he mad about? I need to turn on the radio.

  61. Patriot Dreamer – Mainly Pelosi and her Nazi diatribe. He’s comparing her with Der Fuherer

  62. CW,

    Was just re-reading your previous article on the swine-avian-human flu, and wondered if you had seen this article by journalist Jane Burgermeister who was fired over a flu pandemic lawsuit.


    The article seemed to have a lot of background info, and may be something to add to your info.

    This is for ‘just in case’, no need to post. With the threats that are being made that everyone must take the shots ‘or else’, I fear that this is another piece of the depopulation scheme that is said to be in the works.

    Thanks for all the work you do, and for the great site.


  63. Nancy Peacock

    If this missing divorce papers page is a forgery, Ann Dunham must have presented a forged document to Hawaiian officials to obtain a COLB for Baby O. There’s no telling what is real name is and where he was actually born. Cover up, for sure. Perhaps, we should look to the East.

  64. Nancy Peacock

    There’s not telling what his real name is . . .

  65. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    WND, not Orly, has shot themselves on the foot here. Saying that they have investigators in Kenya — I do not believe it.

    But saying that they are similar to ones that they have, and now that they are different; shows that WND are amateurs at the very best…


    As for the report by the Kenyan Newspaper, the Daily Nation

    Its looks like its a story written by the US State Deparment and placed in the paper at Hillary’s request, or by payment, as was often done in Iraq. I say this because there is nothing in that article to fix it to something written or researched in Kenya:

    1) No byline
    2) No citation of experts in Kenya
    3) Citation of pro-Democratic Party “Washington Independent”
    4) No confirmation of statement by Kenyan diplomat in Washington DC
    5) No attempt to confirm anything in Kenya
    6) Article is written with an anger and viciousness that you only find in the MSM in the USA


    It looks more than fishy!

  66. Nancy Peacock

    Can’t type for some reason today.

  67. Farah is like Ed Hale, FULL OF SHIT PROFITEER
    Screw him and the other roller coaster ride operators.

  68. Im holding to the testimony of Obama’s own grandmother wich was recorded in front of several hundred people, and also the testimony of Rev. Ron Mcrae, and his sworn affidavit, that Obama WAS born in Kenya.

    There is an original somewhere in Kenya, in hiding.

  69. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    What I don’t understand about the Daily Nation report, also, is this.

    They say Kenya was called “Colony and Protectorate”

    And then say it was called a “Dominion”…

    which is it?

    Don’t they know in Kenya which it was?

  70. Folks – We need a top 10 questions to ask our congressmenn at Townhall meetings. Such as –

    1 – Will you Congressmen give us the same health plan you all have , or at least you change to the same system you want to make us take?

  71. First off, I don’t think Orly’s document is technically a birth certificate. To me it’s more like a COLB, however, it has more information on it than the COLB that BO has had posted up, which is nothing but garbage. Orly’s document has more information that should be checked out. To compare it with a birth certificate from Kenya, a real one, wouldn’t be right. Because notice that it’s dated 1964. To me it’s just for the purpose of showing that BO was indeed born there, who is papa and mama were, information like that. So it very well could have been used for the issue of the divorce. I’m not going to jump the gun on this. I’m going to wait and see what is found out by the authenticating it or whatever. I also have a friend in NY who’s having her good friend check out the Sir Edward F. Lavender thing that someone at TD posted.

  72. TIME to dissiminate Obama’s Twin Mickey Hussein’s COLB.


    This needs to be put in the MIX makes the point that Hawaii COLB is easy FORGERY.

    ANYONE here have the capabilities to make a YouTube video using the Docs uncertainty presented recently and the calls of Reid and Shumer for FULL DISCLOSURE (videos posted prior) and BO’s Full Transparency Promise?

    Anyone good with that?

  73. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Thanks for finding that more detailed article.

    However, just because the Sultan of Zanzibar ceded his claim to sovreignty, does not mean that at that point Mombasa and the 10 mile strip were incorporated into Kenya.

    However, if we examine the question more closely, perhaps we are wrong to ask what the Costal District was called as part of Kenya, because if it was still not part of Kenya, it would not be named according to the rules of Kenya.

    Therefore maybe under the Sultan and Zanzibar it was called the Coast Province….

    This is probable…

  74. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Kitty Cat,

    I read at the National Library of Kenya site that the University of Siracuse NY was involved in microfiching reams of documents from Kenya’s history, esp. governmental documents.

    Ask you friend in NY to check this out; Syracuse might have copies of those microfiches…

  75. Patriot Dreamer

    OT, but good article today at American Thinker:

    “ObamaCare and me” by Zane F Pollard, MD

  76. Nancy Peacock

    Cover of Globe today.

    Globe says Prez’ birth certificate a fake!

    I’ll feign surprise.

  77. Nancy Peacock

    A lot of people read Globe since the MSM has bailed on citizens.


  78. Thanks, Civis Naturaliter Natus, I wrote and told her.

  79. Back to square one. Let’s stick with what we know:

    1. Hawaii can not be trusted
    2. Kenya can not be trusted
    3. Any online COLB/CCRB cannot be trusted
    4. CONgrass can not be trusted
    5. The Justice Department can not be trusted
    6. MIM (Misinformation Media) can not be trusted

    Here’s what we CAN trust:

    1. Soetoro’s sources admitted he was a British citizen at birth
    2. The framers explicitly stated in correspondence NBC status relies on allegiance, which Soetoro has none to the U.S.
    3. Amendment XIV can’t be used to satisfy the NBC requirement
    4. However, Amendment XIV does state that certain people who not under the sole jurisdiction of the U.S. at birth are not eligible to even be a citizen.
    5. No court is going to accept this as evidence unless an actual DA or CONgrass does so.

    This debate will continue until April 15, 2010. Until then, hang tight and stay frosty.


  80. Looks Like I will be my second copy of the Globe….The first one the Larry Sinclair story….

  81. CNN

    Corsi has weighed in at WND, but he is comparing apples and oranges.

    He’s comparing a 1961 document (pre-independence) with a 1964 document (post-independence).

    I myself have questions about the document, but the nationhood questions are the lowest on the totem-pole.

    By 1961, Great Britain had learned to EASE into Independence — they had had unmitigated disasters in Ireland, India, and Israel.

    No matter what — Obama was still born a BRIT!

  82. WND is no longer a reliable source of information. All his arguments are from the left and have already been debunked on freepers.

    BTW where is the big game changer he as talking about?.

  83. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Take a look at this.

    Not only have the Obots created a site that will forge Kenyan CoRs but they have it on a dedicated server in the SF Bay area, and have a domain name that is not found in the Registry Database?

    How on earth do they do that?

    Should the FBI alerted to a site that produces forged government documents?

  84. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    His listing of arguments is strange: WND is no longer reading blogs like this one to get a more objective view of the facts?

    As for the E F Lavender being a soap, that was a canard from the begining. E F Lavender was the Secretary of Clerks Union in Victoria, Australia, a century ago…

  85. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    Lets see what the court does in the Kitchner case on Aug. 17th, and with the Keyes case on Sept. 11th.

    But don’t get your hopes up. Its clear we no longer have the country we had as of 1 year ago.

    The constitution is no longer operative.

    Those in government no longer have any desire to see it operate.

    Obama’s administration are thugs and liars, and are now promoting snooping on the citizenry, while Democrats are calling their own constituents at town halls thugs!

    Its clearly the people vs. the NWO rich…

  86. Civis Naturaliter Natus



    AARP has gone over to the Dark Side!

    They are urging seniors to support Obama’s Health Care Killer law, and suggest they lobby on the internet to support it!

    This is incredible!

  87. CNN,

    You are correct about the Constitution failing at every checkpoint.

    The last time this happened was in 1860. Like then, another WAR will occur. Clashing titans on two sides, only this time it’s not separated geographically.

    I hate war. I really do. But the elites want it and they are going to everything they can to create one.

    Only this time they have severely underestimated the power and moxy of the Constitutionalists in this country and we will win, just like we did back in 18th century.

  88. Patriot Dreamer


    Actually, I think that the government is scared to death of the potential consequences of a ruling that Obama is not a NBC and is a usuper. Think about it. There will be lots of angry people out there. They will be angry at the media for not doing its job. They will be angry at Congress for not doing its job of investigating BO’s qualifications. They will be angry at Nancy Pelosi and the DNC for declaring BO an NBC without any rational basis for doing so. Many BO supporters will say that his election was “stolen” from him, because he’s black and we’re all racist. I could go on and on …

  89. The government thought we were ready for fascism.

    But they would be WRONG! Tyranny always comes at a price. They honestly believed getting Soetoro in power was their hat-tipping signal we were ready.

    Just wait until this boil pops. Just you wait.

  90. People are waking up to this communist coop and the installed puppet dictator . But they better hit the coffee and get their act together we don’t have time to play around with this Hugo Chavez wannabe.

    We have weeks not months to stop this hammer and sickle lunatic from Indonesia.


    They work for us???
    Greedy and corrupt
    Buy larrys book friend says an eye opner
    Tell Congress to get a copy and wake up

  92. Patriot Dreamer

    JeffM, they were thinking that “soft” tyranny would work, and we would just roll over and take it. But, the patriots are waking up and saying, “No, we won’t!”

  93. JeffM @ 1:30 & 1:48: thanks again for the return to some sanity…mainly for using the term “Constitutionalists”, which speaks to the heart of the matter, instead of “birthers”, which only promotes hostility, IMHO.

  94. Patriot Dreamer re:” Actually, I think that the government is scared to death of the potential consequences” – the Constitution is the law of the land and has to stand. He is illegal potus the law or the military will have to do their jobs. Whoever is guilty of whatever crimes, will have to go to jail. You cannot let criminals get away with crimes and say Oh Well. You can only get angry at the guilty. This also has gigantic international ramifications-say you were one of our allies, an enemy is going or has attacked you-US has to get involved as an ally, enemy presents evidence Obama as illegal alien. What happens? Our military freezes. I think all of our allies are deeply concerned re: Obama illegal potus issue. Obama government thinks its still running a campaign. I don’t believe for one minute that various governments around the world don’t have everything and more on Obama and henchmen and they are just waiting for the opportune time to “spring” it. Some are not as cavalier regarding these issues as our media stars, who are not journalists. They are selfishly looking at this for their own aggrandizement. Not for the best interests of the United States or WE THE PEOPLE and this is all over one person who is “iffy” citizenship at best.

  95. Patriot Dreamer


    I totally agree with you. I’m just trying to express why I think that there’s been such reluctance by the media and the government on dealing with this issue.

  96. Patriot Dreamer,

    Soft tyranny never works. Either go 100% or not at all. Imagine if Hitler did the ole softy routine. That would have worked as well as the Hindenburg.

    But alas, here we are. We have a usurper with the FULL SUPPORT of a tyrannical Legislative Branch and people are really fed up with the entire bunch of goons. They were fed up in 2006 on, with an approval rate as low as 9% since.

    Let’s face it folks. There’s only one way to get these goons out and it’s not through elections. Have we not learned from the $1B campain, ACORN i.e. NUTJOBS, and the Fascist voting machines????

    There will never be a fair election with this band of thugs in office or under the current system ever again. There is only one way to get them out and that’s by force. That’s right, we don’t want to hear these two words together because it signals the end of the road for the nation as we know it.

    It will happen. All it takes is one, ONE state to declare independent sovereignty, i.e. secession, and it marks the beginning of the end of the United States of America.

    I’m putting my dollars on Montana. They have the best chance at it. They will start and Oklahoma and Texas will follow suit. The Feds will attempt control but they will fail.

  97. WorldNetDaily lied! On Sunday they said they had other kenyan birth certificates and they appeared to be identical. But they didn’t show one. Today they did and they are completely different. They knew it was a fake on Sunday and they lied.

  98. Patriot Dreamer

    JeffM, I can see it starting in any of those states.

  99. Re-do,

    Don’t mention it. We are in the right because we ARE CONSTITUTIONALISTS. They point to foul play. We point to THE LAW. It is the law of the land. We are honest people. We know what the right answer is. That will speak volumes once the people of this nation really get afraid of what’s happening and more importantly, what will happen.

    Who do you think they will turn to? The faithful country-loving Constitutionalists, or the tyrannical thieves, liars, and degenerates who don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves?

    I thought so. And yes, we know who the real thugs are and we are quite skilled and sniffing them out. That’s our strength and we like it that way.


  100. How do I create a link that highlights a word or phrase when you load the url?

  101. Greg,

    I’m not sure what you’re asking? Do you mean, how do you turn text into a link like this..

    Citizen Wells

  102. The South, Sometimes a link gets posted and when click on it it goes to the page and highlights desired text. There is added code at the what would be the normal end of the URL, like a ? or a + sign….?

  103. One more thing before I get off my soapbox.

    If America had a choice to create a new Declaration of Independence, which group would have the fastest, most comprehensive list of grievances against the government?

    A. The Marxist Liberals
    B. The Constitutionalists

  104. Greg,

    Sorry, I don’t know how to do that, but I’m sure someone here will chime in.

  105. The NWO entity that now occupies the White House is still scared to death of the American people.

  106. WND has carried the watert on the birth certificate issue (Les Kinsolving,etc.) — but Corsi does have a NDH Syndrome — ‘not-discovered-here’ — which I think they have for their own protection, because, if they do not know WHERE something comes from, it is always prudent to call it a fake.

    Just like professional archeologists — UNLESS THEY SEE IT COME OUT OF THE GROUND with their own eyes — they will NOW call everything a fake, because the fakes are now so good, that they can fool the greatest experts in the world!

  107. Spanked Butt

    Amen to that…Don’t Tread on Me!!!! Just gotta keep the faith friends, the end of this dictatorship is near.

  108. I think that WND has something on the Marriage of Obamas Parents that they are planning to release. They may be pulling back from the Kenyan BC so it can’t be used to discredit their findings.

    At least that is what Farah seems to be hinting at.

    We’ll have to see.

  109. So much unknown about this man, but this one is creepy…true or not its scary! Also check out the Jaghunter blog below…Obama’s birthday present was being legally charged for treason!



  110. And now for the…


    Today’s tips cover fines. As we all know we don’t have a legal president. That means any bill passed on or after January 20, 2009 and signed into “law” by Mr. Usurper is not legal, hence Unconstitutional.

    The answer is simple. Don’t pay the fine. Period. And when they ask why not, tell them you don’t pay fines on illegally passed legislature.

  111. Patriot Dreamer

    JeffM, make sure it’s a fine from the federal government — not the states!

  112. Patriot Dreamer,

    That is correct. That’s why I included the “That means any bill passed on or after January 20, 2009 and signed into “law” by Mr. Usurper is not legal, hence Unconstitutional” part.

    Always pay fines for legally passed legislature.

  113. Patriot Dreamer-I hope this answers the question. Glad Canada has a free press. Govt acts like US is an island with absolutely no contact with the outside world. It all makes sense in hindsite, these people are criminals of the lowest order.
    Canada Free Press & Northeast Intelligence Network Exclusive
    Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November
    Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod Bio
    Email Article
    By Douglas Hagmann & Judi McLeod Tuesday, August 4, 2009
    Do you remember Watergate? Thirty-five years ago this Sunday, U.S. President Richard M. Nixon submitted his letter of resignation for his role in the scandal. There was the crime – the break-in, and then there was the cover-up by the Nixon administration. There were threats, media manipulation and disinformation. It was the cover-up more than the crime itself in the aftermath of the Watergate break-in that led to the downfall of the Nixon administration. It was a politically critical time for our country, but we survived because of the strength of the U.S. constitution.
    Now, we potentially face a new constitutional crisis stemming from the refusal of Barack Hussein Obama to produce a one-page document that would confirm his eligibility to hold the highest office in the land. Eligibility to hold office is not a “fringe” matter, but a core constitutional issue that lies at the very heart of a growing controversy.
    Although we do not have the birth certificate or proof of ineligibility, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press have documentation of a cover-up relating to the issue of Obama’s eligibility to hold office. The proof we possess not only exposes a well orchestrated cover-up, but also provides critical insight into why the topic of Obama’s eligibility has failed to gain traction in the corporate media.
    The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse – should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November.
    After receiving and authenticating the document, US based veteran private investigator Douglas J. Hagmann opened a full scale investigation into the media blackout, with specific emphasis on tracing the blackout origins to those issuing them. This investigation was conducted in conjunction with Judi McLeod, founding editor of Canada Free Press and Brian Thompson, CFP Information Technology chief following a meeting near Toronto, Ontario last December. At that meeting, it was decided to keep the existence of the document secret until additional evidence could be obtained.
    Today, after an extensive eight month investigation, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are breaking their silence and revealing explosive information about a widespread cover-up that began at the earliest stages of the Obama presidential campaign. The cover-up traces back to some of the most powerful and influential people in the U.S. and continues today.
    Summary of the Evidence
    As noted above, we are in possession of a written account by a well known national talk show host who details how he was prohibited to discuss the controversy of Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility as president of the United States. This signed document cites exact dates and times when he was forbidden to discuss any aspect of the birth certificate controversy, and includes direct references to the individuals responsible for such prohibitions. Further, his statement identifies the individuals who originated the orders and their positions, and confirms that failure to adhere to the order would likely end his career in that industry. He also confirms that other, less specific but more menacing threats were implied during conversations with those making the subject off limits.
    Although we possess the original document containing the name and contact information of the talk show host, we have decided not to publish his name or network affiliation at this time. Based on the correspondence from this individual and respecting the nature of the threats to him personally and professionally, it is our decision to allow him to enjoy anonymity until such time as he decides to reveal the facts himself at a time of his choosing.
    From multiple interviews conducted within the last eight months, we have obtained information from other sources, independent of the above, who have also been instructed to avoid any discussion of the birth certificate issue at all costs, to wit:
    The account of an administrative assistant employed in New York City by a cable network news station who provided significant, detailed information of a 2008 meeting between the top network executive and four-(4) well-known news anchors. This source confirmed that she drafted the memo to the various hosts to notify them of the date, time and location of this high-level meeting at the request of the network’s top executive.
    Present at this meeting, she verified that the network official issued “warnings” to the personalities “to avoid any on-air discussion of the birth place, eligibility, and news accounts of litigation compelling [Barack Hussein] Obama to produce a legitimate copy of his birth certificate.” She stated that the network executive had her arrange the conference immediately following a meeting “between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.”
    The statement of a corporate secretary for a major news network confirming the existence of a one-page inter-office memo, bearing the markings “confidential” and “not for dissemination,” addressed and distributed to news anchors and on-air talent” that specifically instructed the recipients to avoid any discussion pertaining to the Obama birth certificate controversy. The memo was written and distributed in October 2008, and specifically instructed on-air talent to “advise guests, as necessary, to refrain from citing any news story, legal proceedings, Internet ‘blogs’ or other sources that pertain to the ongoing eligibility controversy of future President Barack Obama.”
    As outlined above, our Investigation has uncovered both direct and indirect evidence of threats being made against some of the nation’s top radio and television personalities, which would explain some giving this topic mere lip service. As one source interviewed during the course of this investigation stated, “I’ve got a career and family to think about.”
    Although no one should be surprised over the manipulation of the news, the nature of this manipulation, and the extent of the threats against journalists, should shock even the most well grounded.
    Any reasonable person must question the motivation of the media moguls. The individuals who have – and continue to threaten talk show hosts, news anchors, and others are the top people. We are not talking about mid or upper level management – this is from the very top in all cases. If there is nothing to the birth certificate issue and the question of eligibility, why the secrecy

  114. citizenwells

    I was aware of it.
    Will revisit.

  115. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I agree, we should do away with the “birther” label. Its silly and juvenile and originates with facists.


    That’s our name.

    We are 10’s of Millions strong and growing, and we have many more guns that the entire US Military combined. Plus our troops are ready and waiting in the US Mainland, but the US Military is divided in itself and overseas.

    We could take this country back in 1 week, if we all took our guns to the streets…the fear alone would make the liberals crap their pants, and then we could more easily drag them out of the Federal buildings and haul them before a Citizen grand Jury…

    (ah, the thought of it!)

  116. keep up the good fight, jeff!

    i’m sure it will look dark and hopeless at times, but the truth about this will not go away if we don’t go away.

  117. I believe one or both BC’s are fakes. Whomever did the forgeries were not smart enough to change the book and page numbers. The people who are doing the analyzing are focusing on the initials of Lavender and other inconsistencies. Having been a legal secretary, I’m totally familiar with book and pages. Whenever anything is recorded or registered, the court stamps a book and page number on the document so it can be located later. If you file a deed to your house, it is stamped with an official book and page number, anything that is registered is recorded in a specific book with a consecutive page number. There is no way in hell that two separate birth certificates in two different countries, two years apart, have the same book and page number.

  118. I just received this email from a JD to undisclosed recipients.

    “… if you make an appointment, you can look at it, the original document.”


    The result of this law would be that the Obama BC would be damaged, vandalized, defaced, altered, substituted, totally unusable for forensic purposes.

    There should NOT be public access to original docs. Only forensic experts should handle these things. The DOH clerks cannot keep track of regular public access.

    Btw, look at this for motivation:
    “… His website states that it his personal goal to be the first United States Senator of Filipino heritage.”

    Betcha he’s a Dem.

    Yep, he is!
    “… Hawaii Democratic State Senator Will Espero.”

  119. Patriot Dreamer

    CW, if you want to do an article on Jane Burgermeister, I recommend you visit her blog at:


    Among other things, she has info. on Baxter.

  120. Mr. Upstate Warrior-that was a very good video. Thank you

  121. I see no reason to talk against WND. They make mistakes, as do every one of us here, and being as there’s just total chaos that’s been put out there by the obots, it’s easy to make mistakes. You have to sort through tons of crud to get from point to another point and hope somewhere along they way you have a little bit of truth! So Joseph Farah, in my opinion, has done the best that he can do. And he’s been the one trying to get the information out. So please lay off of Mr. Farah and WND.

  122. kittcat,

    Of course we all make mistakes. But this one is so obvious it can’t be ignored.

    Where’s the Birth Certificate?

    Apparently they know the difference, but mysteriously they can’t figure it out when it comes to a CCRB. Either they are erroneously dumb, or this is happening for a reason.

    I’m thinking the latter. Let’s wait and see.

  123. Since Obama demolished # 1 does it follow that #2 and #3 are equally demolished. In other words none of us have civil rights anymore.
    #1. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications one must meet to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must:
    be a natural born citizen of the United States;[6]
    be at least thirty-five years old;
    have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.
    # 2.The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88-352, 78 Stat. 241, July 2, 1964) was a landmark
    piece of legislation in the United States that outlawed racial segregation in schools, public places, and employment. Conceived to help African Americans, the bill was amended prior to passage to protect women, and explicitly included white people for the first time. It also created the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
    #3. On April 11, 1968 President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (also known as CRA ’68), which was meant as a follow-up to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. While the Civil Rights Act of 1866[1] prohibited discrimination in housing, there were no federal enforcement provisions. The 1968 act expanded on previous acts and prohibited discrimination concerning the sale, rental, and financing of housing based on race, religion, national origin, and as of 1974, sex; as of 1988, the act protects the handicapped and families with children. It also provided protection for civil rights workers. The Act is commonly known as the Fair Housing Act (of 1968)

  124. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle, I don’t know about #2 and #3 logically following from #1, but we have already seen this administration’s enforcement of civil rights. Just look at that case with the New Black Panthers and the billy club at the polling place during last November’s elections. There are more, but that’s a good place to start.

  125. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090806/ap_on_go_co/us_cash_for_clunkers
    lool out….

  126. typo…should read “look out”….
    nothing LOoL about it at all…

  127. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    I mentioned it at the beginning, on Sunday i believe, that there is a way to get two BCs in two different countries to have the same book and page number. You get one bc’s book and page number, and you search the Birth registries of the other country, until you find one with books and page numbers that are similarly organized, and then look for the BC on that page in that book. That way you could have 2 authentic BCs with the same book and page numbers. But this is mere speculation.

    You could not find 2 lavenders and 2 millers, let alone the same form for the same price…(smile).

  128. Civis Naturaliter Natus


    1) Because it shifts the focus to where Obama’s born or his BC, away from the fact he is not a NBC
    2) It trivializes the patriotic movement
    3) It hides the Constitutional issues.


    I think one thing those with blogs could do would be:

    FORM A CONSTITUTIONALIST network of blogs.

    with these objectives

    1) Do away with the “Birther” moniker
    2) Get patriots to identify themselves as “Constitutinalists”
    3) Itemize our Constitutional concerns
    4) Itemize our Constitutional principles
    5) Identify the Constitutional problems
    6) Organize grass root movement
    7) Explain depth of corruption and rot in Republicans and Dems
    8) Suggest needed reforms
    9) Have a common banner image, which when clicked leads to blogs serving as regional nodes, from which other bloggers can link, to give local contacts

  129. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    About WND,

    I don’t want to criticize them, but if they had these BCs from Kenya on Sunday, the had the ethical duty to show them to Orly right at the start.

    They seem not to have done that.

    That’s dishonest manipulation of information…

  130. banner could simply state
    “we the people”…

  131. I am a Democrat (not proud-lately) and a Constitutionalist. This is from Rush’s web-site. Go Republicans. I think Obama was successful in destroying the Democratic party and a party with an out of control wing needs to be destroyed. Clean out the den of iniquity and rebuild it, much as the Republicans had to do after Nixon I imagine.
    RUSH: I’m looking here, folks, at the generic ballot, the generic congressional ballot from Rasmussen. They put the latest results out yesterday. Now get this: “Support for Republican congressional candidates has risen to its highest level in recent years, giving the GOP a five-point lead over Democrats in the latest Congressional Ballot and stretching the out-of-power party’s lead to six weeks in a row,” being atop the generic ballot. The survey date is August 2nd. The Republicans are at 43%. This is generic, no names, 43% Republican, 38% Democrat. It’s interesting.
    You know, Obama may well be, folks, destroying the Democrat Party. He may well be. We will know soon enough. I’ve been thinking about this. The Democrat Party leadership is hard left-wing, including Obama, Pelosi, Reid, but much of the Democrat Party grassroots is not. The entire Obama agenda is aimed specifically at doing the bidding of trial lawyers and public sector union bosses. That’s what this whole agenda is about, trial lawyers and public sector union bosses, not union members. If you take a look at any of the agenda items, you see all of the sops being thrown to the trial lawyers and the public sector union bosses, the two largest contributors to Obama, and they are not popular. Those two groups are not popular with average ordinary Americans. Trial lawyers and these public sector union bosses are not popular at all. Now, the Democrat Party leadership is hard left-wing. It’s the most radical left this Democrat Party has ever produced, both in the White House and the leadership positions in the House and Senate. The left-wing of the Democrat Party controls its mechanisms, but the voters are not all Pelosi and Obama ideologues.

  132. Patriot Dreamer

    Michelle, I like to think that we are all supporters of the Constitution here, no matter what political party. 🙂

  133. CNN

    About WND,

    I don’t want to criticize them, but if they had these BCs from Kenya on Sunday, the had the ethical duty to show them to Orly right at the start.

    They seem not to have done that.

    That’s dishonest manipulation of information…

    I believe LameCheery made that charge earlier this week.

  134. The Constitution promotes a “republic”, not a “democracy”…so, to ‘splain what that means, I will re-do an informative short vid so the difference can be made clear:
    (btw: if you were listening to Rush today you would have heard him speaking on this subject…not the video…but the true definition and knowning “your left from your right”!

  135. typo: “knowing your left from your right”…very important in these muddy times! IMHO…

  136. Patriot Dreamer

    Does anybody know anything about LameCherry? I don’t mean names or personally identifying information or anything like that, but just in general.

  137. Can someone please post a link to the Rush commentary from today?
    Thanks in advance.

    I like the title of “Constitutionalists” a whole lot better than the “Birthers”.

  138. Patriot Dreamer // August 6, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Hi PD,

    Don’t think too many know who Lame Cherry is, but in one of his pieces he alluded to the fact that he worked for Farah at one time. Don’t know if that meant he worked for WND.

  139. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK, thanks!

  140. Lame Cherry works for WND and Newswithviews as a journalist.

  141. Patriot Dreamer I agree no matter the party affiliation or former party affiliation we are all Constitutionalists or should be. Maybe we are forming a new party without even realizing it.
    Our party platform-one document. The Constitution of the United States of America. Thank you Founding Fathers. Our emblem WE THE PEOPLE.

  142. Reagan Democrat in Ohio,that was mentored by Farah at some point.been kicked off some forums for talking about azkenazi-Jews or some such thing.

  143. The whole country is catching on and fast.
    Posted by Andrea Shea King at 8/06/2009 02:07:00 PM 0 comments Links to this post
    Labels: The Obama Effect
    To The Point News
    Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
    Thursday, 06 August 2009
    Slang terms normally have limited lifespans. Remember “groovy”? Nobody uses that 1960s term of approbation anymore unless you’re Austin Powers.
    But there is one slang term that’s just as cool to use today – particularly by our society’s arbiters of cool, the young – as it was when I was one of those young back in the 1950s. I used it twice in the last sentence.
    “Cool” still means today what it has for decades – great, awesome, fantastic, excellent, hip, suave, with it, the bee’s knees, totally bitchin’. (Bitchin’, by the way, coined by California surfers in the late 50s, is a contraction of the word “bewitching.” I know this as I was one of those surfers at the time.)
    “Uncool” is the opposite – lame, dorky, weird, loser, pathetic, poseur, stupid, fake, retarded, jerk, schmuck, putz, horse’s ass, way un-hip.
    Until very recently, the embodiment of cool, coolness clothed in human flesh – especially for the young – has been President Zero. So much so that the latest lexicon of slang terms, published by the Linguistics Department of UCLA this month, “obama” as a slang term meaning “cool.” “That’s so obama” according to the dictionary means “That’s so cool.”
    Not any more. That’s so yesterday. Zero is no longer cool. Proof is how completely off-the-charts viral the Joker poster of Zero has gone in the last few days. And that it was done by an anonymous graffiti artist in L.A. who is undoubtedly a young kid.
    Google “obama” + “joker” today (8/06) and you get over 11 million hits. Two days ago it was 6.5 million.Zazzle now lists 2,461 “Joker Obama Gifts” for sale, like t-shirts and mugs. People are printing and posting them up in public places all over the country, from LA to Atlanta, from Sioux Falls to George Washington University in DC.
    The character of The Joker played by Heath Ledger in “The Dark Night” Batman movie (2008) was a genius of pathological evil. (It was an incredibly impressive performance, for which Ledger justifiably won an Academy Award.)
    To portray Zero as Heath Ledger’s Joker, and for that portrayal to go instantly and wildly viral, is a nation-wide recognition that there is something evil in him. And something very, very uncool.
    Greatly assisting this growing perception of Zero was the White House actually publishing on its official website last week (7/30) this now famous photo epitomizing the obliviousness of Zero to anyone but himself. [Photo of Officer Crowley helping Prof. Gates down W.H. steps to Rose Garden, while Zero walks ahead of them, totally self-absorbed.]
    Very, very uncool.
    Uncoolness has also suddenly spread beyond Zero to permeate both his Administration and the Democrat Party along with its moonbat supporters.
    Last Friday (7/31) Zero’s Treasury Secretary, Tiny Tim Geithner, completely “lost his cool” in a foul-mouthed “expletive-laden tirade” against the Fed’s Ben Bernanke, SEC’s Mary Shapiro, and FDIC’s Sheila Bair – as reported by the New York Times.
    Tiny Tim’s “repeated obscenities and his aggressive posture” were due to the regulators – who do not work for and are legally independent of him – not moving fast enough to seize more federal power.
    Very, very uncool.
    As regular, normal, middle-class Americans become enraged by Zero and the Pelosicrats’ never-ending seizure of more power over their lives, and turn Town Hall meetings into Town Hells of protest, rather than listening to them the Pelosicrats engage in fascist insults.
    Those who protest against their agenda are “racists,” “extremist mobs,” “Brooks Brothers elitists,” or – their ultimate over-the-top insult, Nazis. Yesterday (8/05), Pelosi herself on national television those protesting against her and her ilk of “carrying swastikas.”
    What a winning strategy – insult and demonize voters and constituents who disagree with you. Very, very uncool.
    We don’t have to wait until November 2010 to see how this starts playing out. This November – 11/03/09 – there are elections for two major-state governors. In both New Jersey and Virginia, the Republican is way out in front.
    If the Dems are panicking now over town halls and Joker posters, wait ‘till you see them completely lose it, as in unglued, after this November 3.
    Many of them, of course, will go right around the bend this very month, as they won’t be able to cope with the level of protest against them by voters in their own district during the August Recess.
    If you are planning to participate in one of these protests, here’s a suggestion.
    Physicians for Reform tells the story of Oregon resident Barbara Wagner. Rather than treat the reappearance of her lung cancer, she was deemed a “negative economic unit” who qualified only for hospice care or physician-assisted suicide.
    So, if you’d like a suggestion for an attention-getting sign for a town hall/tea party protest, how about one with a picture of your Congressista or Pelosi or Zero with the caption under it: NEGATIVE ECONOMIC UNIT.
    If asked about the meaning, especially by some media goon covering the protest, you can answer: “(politician’s name) does not contribute anything positive to our economy, but is instead a drain on our economic resources. As such, he/she is a negative economic unit, and as they would be physically under ObamaCare, deserve to be politically euthanized.”
    Have fun at the protests this summer. Keep your cool. Revel in the fact that Zero and the Pelosicrats are losing theirs – irretrievably. The Second American Revolution is underway.

  144. Patriot Dreamer

    Thanks, everyone!

  145. zachjonesishome

    Civis Naturaliter Natus // August 6, 2009 at 3:47 pm (edit)


    1) Because it shifts the focus to where Obama’s born or his BC, away from the fact he is not a NBC
    2) It trivializes the patriotic movement
    3) It hides the Constitutional issues.

    I just finished an article about this in the form of a letter to Glenn Beck. Sent it to Australia. I will put it up maybe tonight or in the morning. I agree. “birthers” has to go. Zach

  146. If you want true freedom…you need a republic…
    the rule of law that limits the reaches of government into the lives of the individual…leaving him or her the freedom to pursue a life in liberty to produce and enjoy the fruit of their labor. The Constitution exists to protect the rights of the individual. Such a document and ideal is the enemy of those who desire to make others subordinate slaves.

  147. If anyone thinks Sotomayor might even consider reusing herself from anything having to do with Obama you have lost your mind!

    Why do you think she has been placed there?

    I ask everyone to flood disdain to the office of Lamar Alexander and other repubs along with the bluedogs, who may have voted for her Senate Conformation.

  148. ARMY D.A.V.,

    What they should be doing is PUNKIN’ THE FORGER, both of them.

    Last time I checked, forgery of government documents is a Class C Felony. Where’s the Secret Service Now???

    That’s right, they’re too busy trying to harass Constitutionalists.

  149. This was posted at the WND Forums.

    “Obama ‘mama’: 15 days from birth to Seattle class”
    Posted by zepol on Aug 06, 2009 13:58

    Mr. Farah has Twittered that WND will have a major breaking news story Fri. or Mon. and that their article “Obama ‘mama’: 15 days from birth to Seattle class” was a lead in to the news. That tells me the focus is about to change to Seattle and probably Canada.”

  150. If you are planning to review a transcript from Rush’s show today, look for the segment when he was speaking about Nancy Pelosi, and “Nazi-ism”…I didn’t hear a lot of that segment, as it was on the car radio during a short errand…but he did stop to talk about the confusion of the understanding about the political spectrum;
    so I don’t know how long he remained on the topic. However, I was glad to finally hear somebody bringing it up!

  151. GG, Are you still around? I am about to email you some research I alluded to yesterday.

    Also, please not the other Ladyhawkke posting has two Ks and is not me.

    (Unless those Ks are really Es! Sorry, I could not resist!)

  152. just noticed new thread!…see ya over there…

  153. citizenwells

    You are spot on.

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  155. zachjonesishome

    We’re cooking dinner now. Back later. Zach Hope you enjoy and approve of the article.

  156. zachjonesishome

    Obama eligibility – Glenn Beck – Don’t Tase Me Bro!
    Australia.TO – Zach Jones – ‎18 minutes ago‎
    Yesterday, one segment of the Glenn Beck Show dealt with the topic of how the Obama Administration and Democratic leadership are adopting tactics from Saul …

  157. Hello Constitutionalist, Traditionalist, Truthers.

    We The People are not afraid of names whenever they say Birthers respond with Birthers for TRUTH or TRUTHERS.

    1,000 Erosionist Lie-berals Democrat Lies will NEVER Equal 1 Conservative Truth. There is ONLY one CONSTITUTION and ONLY ONE TRUTH and we strive to find it. ALSO there is ONLY one place of Birth for ANYONE and only one way to be NBC and we struggle to keep it as it was Meant to be and the Founders guided by the hand of God willed it to be so as it was written so Shall it Be.
    1,000 lies won’t the Constitutional Truth.

  158. Typo: 1,000 lies won’t the Constitutional Truth.
    1,000 lies won’t change the Consitutional Truth.

  159. Sorry for bringing this up again, I’m just wondering if anyone here has good or bad experience with info from Canada Free Press. The article about the investigation of the threats against the radio host is the first time I went there and I’m just trying to get a feel for if I should believe it or not?

    Another thought, have nothing to base this on, but if the Kenyan BC isn’t authentic, what happens if they find out that it was truly made back in 64 AND a forgery…then what? It seems it would become about as significant as the real thing if that were the case.

    And I don’t mean to be doom and gloom but it just appears to me that our gov’t is so corrupt in every nook and cranny that I’m losing hope that anything will be done about this. If there’s anyone anywhere who has any REAL authority that’s taking action on this, I just don’t see it.

  160. FYI: ‘new thread’ note posted @ 4:53 when there were still no comments…
    “we’re on it, Chief…”

  161. citizenwells

    Canada Free Press has published quite a few good articles.
    Beyond that, I have further insights.

  162. Michelle, that was a great letter. Can you post a link, please?

  163. CNN —

    I visited our local university library today and found the Atlas of Kenya prepared by the British in 1959. One of the many full-page color maps is one clearly entitled “Coast Province,” which shows a political map of all of the province’s local districts.

    One of the maps showed British Mombasa, with all British street names (“Prince Charles Street” was a major thorough-fare), as well as the grounds of the Hospital. Throughout the article, the names “Coast” and “Coast Province” were used interchangeably.

    Afterward, I went to the shelves and read the book entitled: “The Myth of Mau-Mau.” New York: Meridian, 1970 by Carl G. Roseberg.

    In the book I noticed one striking black and white photo of a 1961 KANU “airport rally,” with a photo of Obama, Sr.’s well-dressed political sponsor Tom Mboya in a white hat addressing the crowd from behind a large political drawing of the incarcerated leader of the KANU political party, Jomo Kenyatta.

    Also in the background of the photo were British commercial turbo-prop aircraft, sleek and modern. What the picture showed was that air-travel in Kenya in 1961 was state-of-the-art, and that politics were turbulent.

    After reading the book, I would have no difficulty at all believing that Barack Obama, Sr. was in Kenya in 1961, participating actively in thsee turbulent politics in the company of Tom Mboya. And after looking through the book, the idea that Barack Obama, Sr. was a “poor student without visible means of support” disappeared forever from by thoughts.

    On the contrary, the KANU was a powerful and wealthy political force, financially supported by numerous countries brokering for their interests in the future of East Africa at the height of the Cold War.

  164. jbjb-Are you talking about the Jack Wheeler letter that was Andrea Shea King’s web-site today? My computer is acting naughty today.

  165. I have a question was a crime committed here? I mean hacking the web-site for starters. Which came first the chicken or the egg? in other words Orly’s first then doctored or just sent to her during the hacking which went on for quite awhile.
    If a crime, what is named? and penalties? I’m very curious. Thank you
    ARMY D.A.V. // August 6, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless’

  166. Jersey Devil

    The Headlines on the Globe

    Obama Bogus Birth Certificate

    Barack Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate is a crude forgery, according to experts who have analyzed the document and other investigators who insist the President is covering up the truth about where he was really born. In a blockbuster Special Report, experts present photographic evidence they say proves forgery. See for yourself! Only in GLOBE!

  167. Jacqlyn Smith

    Hurry and vote….it ends tonight!!! I gave them all F’s!!


  168. Citizen Wells, Thank you for your reply regarding CFP, that’s helpful.

    Re-do, that video is great! Everyone should send that to everyone in your address book. And show it to our kids. It’s important that we tell everyone that the schools do NOT teach American history anymore so we must do it ourselves! It doesn’t have to be shoved down their throat or anything…video’s like this are the perfect avenue. My 15 year old son just saw it and enjoyed it. Not too short or long, nor boring.

  169. tick @ 8:22 tocks: I had the same reaction the first time I saw it…and susquently the same from others with whom I’ve share it. Too bad it couldn’t be shown in every school…beginning at least at the junior high-level, IMHO.

  170. ticktock: if you enjoyed that video, and have some youngin’s who’ll learn by watching a video (they won’t even have to crack a book!…and if they like music)…I will repeat an earlier recommendation of a DVD called
    “The Liberty Tree Guitar” by Bob Taylor of Taylor Guitars.

    You can probably purchase it directly from http://www.taylorguitars.com.

    It has a wonder history lesson and story about events of the American Revolution…and the preservation of an historical landmark from the founding of this country.

    What I think is most interesting is that we are, again, dialoging about the same issues…taxation without representation.

    Good luck repairing some damaged ‘gray matter’…hopefully it’s salvagable.

  171. typo: “wonderful history lesson”…about the real ‘tea party’, and such.

  172. Hmmm…funny comment: “…nor boring”…
    seems ya hear that alot from a generation that’s been over-exposed to all the high-speed, high-tech vid and music-vid stuff. Part of the problem with a generation who need always to be entertained…lest they should have a moment to become ‘bored’.

    This aint ‘Little House On The Prairie” no more, that’s for sure.

  173. Why all the emphasis on the birth certificate? Why not make as much noise on the college records that Obama has sealed that may show that he came into this country as a foreign student? What about Obama’s admitted adoption by a foreigner? What about his travels to Pakistan when US citizens were not allowed in Pakistan? What about his admitting that he was born with duel citizenship. Everyone is doing cartwheels looking for a birth certificate. A hero’s job has been done getting this issue into the MSM of late, but can’t these other issues be raised now as well? If Chris Matthews and Rick Sanchez just dismiss the birthers with holding up potentially phony birth certificates, can’t these other issues be raised to dispute this?

  174. Thanks Re-do, I’ll check it out! My kids are informed about real History. We’ve never left it up to the schools. All they get in school is propoganda now in that area. I tell my friends to watch for a class called “advisory”. Propably any middle school parent will recognize that their child has mentioned this class. Total propoganda. We discuss everything in that class and the other side(the truth), so they know both sides and can decipher things that they hear. Also, believe it or not, English IMO has become very much a social engineering course…so y’all wanna watch out for that. Just ask your kid sometime what they’re learnin’ about in English. 🙂 (If they’re in public school)…most likely it won’t be ENGLISH.

  175. I am not sure if anyone has seen or already posted re this important information on Canadian Free Press site about the Obama media cover up,which was obviously deeply rooted well before the election.


    It does in many ways explain the threats, intimidation and the fear of reprisals by many journalists and various media outlets. (it does not excuse them however)
    This policy of menace and thuggery has certainly worked well until now but it looks as though ‘truth will out’ sooner rather than later.

    As G W Bush said “fool me once…etc. I wonder if the so called amazing rhetorical genius of Obama is also based on one of these wise insightful homilies, ‘Lie to them once and then just keep on keeping on”.
    I think we are not far away from that prescient nursery rythme : “Barky Obama sat on a chair ,he suddenly realised it just wasn’t there,
    all the presidents henchmen and all the presidents men, couldn’t put Barky together again”.

  176. Justina @ 9:53: exactly: the whole BC is the “smoke & mirrors” diversion tactic…to stir folks away from the items you mention, even though they too are really secondary to the ‘main thing’: the trampling of the Constitution. Until the smoke is cleared away, and the focus is properly directed, you’ll keep reading of folks hammering away that this ‘merry-go-round’ “non” issue. And, there is reasonable suspicion the the BC ‘crap’ is receiving real, and/or feigned promotion, even here, by HRC supporters…not by the Constitutionalists.
    So far, IMHO, only JeffM has been able to apply the old Keep It Simple, Stupid (K.I.S.S.)-rule in affect…the rest is mostly background noise…including, but not limited to “FOX NOISE”…under gag-order, apparently; and having succombed to presenting what is essentially
    ‘faux and unbalanced’.

  177. I agree wholeheartedly with Justina. We’ve got to get the message out there about ALL of the sealed history of this man and the real questions/assumptions about just why all of this info is being hidden from public exposure. They could easily play their lawless forgery games on any real birth facts – they’ve had plenty of time to erase a lot of truth. But it’s the whole bag that needs to be emphasized.

    I’d like to see a whole lot of articles questioning how this guy got into Occidental/Columbia/Harvard as well as the known documents that suggest adoption/Indonesian citizenship and the travel questions that involve what kind of passports. Who was behind it – esp. when apparently his school records were not even up to what would be expected for simple “diversity” entrance programs. Where are the WND investigations into all of that stuff? Where’s the reporting on the court challenge to Occidental demanding their records – and the fact that their high powered attorneys are the same as Obama’s???

    If even the conservative media are scared of the “birther” title connection – then include all of this other stuff. If Glenn Beck can get all of the info on the wide web of ACORN, can’t he include the hidden associates who managed Obama’s elitist/Marxist ivory tower climb?

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