Obama health care, ObamaCare, Hidden Truth, YouTube video, Nancy Pelosi, shutting out public, abuse of power

This YouTube video reveals the hidden truth that Obama, Nancy Pelosi and the democrat congress are hiding from the American public.

 

Thanks to commenter Patriot Dreamer

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75 responses to “Obama health care, ObamaCare, Hidden Truth, YouTube video, Nancy Pelosi, shutting out public, abuse of power

  1. Citing Hawaii’s UIPA Information and Records Request Guidelines, I requested ALL Obama’s VITAL RECORDS and BIRTH CERTIFICATES.

    I asked Leo Donofrio to look it over and give me an opinion. He thinks I made my case well.

    Please read it carefully, I cite rules that have NO EXCEPTION for VITAL Records. Other rules make exception for VITAL RECORDS, but not the TWO I cite.

    Birth Date and Ethnicity are the only significant rights to privacy per my request. I could live without seeing those if they decide to withhold them.

    Again, read it carefully. I think I have made a case to disclose in the public’s interest.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2305734/posts

  2. Posted in comments on Orly’s site. Anyone familiar with this browser. I have IE and go to her site fine.

    Lowell Banner says:
    August 1, 2009 at 9:40 am
    Dianne – thanks for the Ixquick lead. I have started using it and I like the idea of not leaving my address everywhere.
    Regina – if you are not having problems when you visit Orly’s site , then don’t worry about it. If you are tired of the invasive stuff we know that Google and others do…try using Ixquick.com. good luck
    Leave a Comment

  3. Again – since this is a new thread that has started, let me once again say that you should read my entry for today. Based upon what I have every reason to believe are highly reliable sources, it is important that you read this.

    http://www.conrest.blogspot.com

  4. Well, I’m still getting that message. I go to her website, it’s fine, then I click on latest news and I get the warning message. I don’t know why unless it’s because I have AVG.

  5. Stop Obama’s government Health Plan

    Congress has failed to vote on this plan prior to August recess. Obama will use the time between now and September when Congress reconvenes to pitch this travesty until he gets it passed. If he succeeds in getting this program through, America will have lost the last of any personal freedoms it had left. The last of the greatest health care in the world will die. This program must be stopped now and forever. We must use this Congressional time gap to get the facts to the public. It is our job to convince Congress they will not have a job if they pass this bill.

    The only reason some Americans support this bill is because they don’t understand this bill. The two greatest reasons they don’t understand this bill is because they still believe Obama would never tell a lie and the main source of their information is msm. Most people look to msm for accurate information. Most Americans still believe MSM reports objectively, responsibly and fully. Our work is cut out for us, but we can over come the two obstacles that might permit this heinous bill to pass.

    Don’t take my word for this. You can check this information for yourself. Go to docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BilText-071409

    I am going to write and publish some copy people can borrow and enhance to use to get out the word. We have all got to get busy on this one!

    Make up simple flyers that can be e-mailed, down loaded and mailed, and printed by the
    100’s and personally deposited in every public place imaginable.

    We must immediately take action and do one or all of the following:

    Post and blog every where you can on the inter net

    place discreet signs in your front yard or window or vehicle

    e-mail with a request to pass it on:

    everyone on your e-mail list
    the editor of every local, state, and national news publication
    every TV news station in your area
    Every Congress person & Senator

    Print and personally distribute or leave flyers

    At clinic and doctor’s waiting rooms
    Super markets
    Laundromats
    Telephone poles
    Post offices
    Restaurant entrances
    Where ever you find public places
    senior care facilities

    For those who can afford it, warnings in classified ad section or small display ads in

    Green Sheet
    Penny savers
    Craig’s list (free)
    Local newspapers

    The flyers must list one to ten irrefutable reasons why Obamacare is bad and wrong for Americans. They information must be factual, and the place where the information can be verified should be listed.

    Keep it focused and hit so hard as to get their attention. Our very lives are at stake!

  6. A pandering Republican is a pandering Democrat. Any health care plan that includes relying on the employer to provide health insurance is a non-starter. This allocates costs to business that should be assigned to government; and besides, what happens when you lose your job? Do your homework. Examine plans in other capitalist democracies (Switzerland; Germany; Great Britain; Taiwan; and Japan). There is a reason the US ranks 39th in overall health care: we do not have nationalized health.

    SICK AROUND THE WORLD

  7. kittycat —————-

    The problem seems to occur when using Firefox.

    Try MS Internet Explorer or Apple Safari (for PC).

    With Safari, have to click “Ignore warning” to get into comments.

    Download link for Safari:

    http://www.apple.com/safari/download/

  8. Val, Maddie, and Everyone,

    I had another idea…
    THEORIZING HOW TO PROVE BO IS NOT A NBC

  9. This article was on the editorial page of the St. Louis Post Dispatch. Scary stuff! Anyone else visualize brownshirts? BTW Has anyone looked at Subtitle C, Section 1310 of the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act?

    America needs a public service academy
    07/31/2009

    In the early 1800s, when the United States recognized a need for military leadership, President Thomas Jefferson authorized the creation of West Point, a school uniquely crafted to address those needs with a specially designed curriculum like none other in the country. Two hundred years and four more military-service academies later, the tradition of military service and leadership still thrives.
    However, while military service must be complemented by civilian service, we have yet to dedicate an institution to training civilian leaders. And while millions of Americans dedicate hours each year to volunteering and other forms of community activism, fewer and fewer graduates are choosing to pursue careers in public service: fields like education, emergency response, health care and foreign service. These fields are vital to the future of our country, and redefining their place in our communities is both necessary and long overdue. It’s time to create that civilian counterpart — the U.S. Public Service Academy…………….

    READ MORE
    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/editorialcommentary/story/C84A3AE93401A885862576030080844A?OpenDocument

  10. Barry Soetoro FRAUD

    I am beginning to suspect that the people who don’t have health care coverage are the only ones supporting this bill. Those and brain dead liberals. According to Karl Rove, 84% of Americans have health care coverage. So this bill serves the other 16% – a group which includes illegals?

  11. The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act…….

    Subtitle_C_Amendments_to_Subtitle_C_National_Service_Trust
    SEC. 1310. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

    Subtitle C of title I (42 U.S.C. 12571 et seq.) is amended by inserting after section 132 the following:

    SEC. 132A. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.
    (a) Prohibited Activities- An approved national service position under this subtitle may not be used for the following activities:
    (1) Attempting to influence legislation.
    (2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.
    (3) Assisting, promoting, or deterring union organizing.
    (4) Impairing existing contracts for services or collective bargaining agreements.
    (5) Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to Federal office or the outcome of an election to a State or local public office.
    (6) Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials.
    (7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of proselytization, consistent with section 132.

    READ MORE…
    http://www.nationalservice.gov/help/serve_america_act/Serve_America_Act.htm

  12. Kitty- I found that if you go to Orly’s site, allow the slow load, then turn off the internet connection to browse off line.
    Looks like they may have the Kenyan BC. They need another to compare to, specifically
    one with the BD 04/08/61

  13. Some good posters for up coming events , free down load………print….take them to the parties.

    http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=3648

  14. Georgetown, I saw someone on here one day when Jacklyn was talking about Kenyan BC, and someone said that they were born in Scotland and theirs looks like that one. I can’t remember who it was. It was last week or the week before.

  15. Georgetown

    Someone posted the link about Orly having the Kenyan BC, but it was debunked. Wondering if this is the same one. Someone was able to analyze it and they discovered a message in the background that appeared to be in Dutch and when translated it read something along the lines of : this is a political satire and get use to it … he is your POTUS. Is the same one? It was apparently an official looking Kenya NB, ( oldsalt commented on that ) but the writing looked as though it was written by a 5 year old. Just wondering if that’s the same. ???

  16. Val,
    I remember reading that on Free Republic, and I have downloaded a copy of that document that was at the link that was posted up, but the thing is this, Dr. Taitz is mentioning a name, E. (something) Lavender, which I did not see on that document. I looked at it again last night and didn’t see that name.

  17. I posted this on the last thread ….

    I truly believe that we need to somehow show a tremendous amount of support for Sgt Lashley. He was the black cop that supported Sgt Crowley’s staement of events. He has since been labeled an “Uncle Tom” and a traitor. He sent a letter with Sgt Crowley to give to Nobama and he stated in the letter that he believes Prof Gates has created so much racial tension that it may never be able to be fixed.

    He needs our support.

    Anyone have any ideas how we can let him know we appreciate his honesty. He stated in his letter that he has been attacked for “speaking the truth”. And Lord knows we need more who will do the same.

    We need to let him know … we are NOT racists and we appreciate and honor his service as a Citizen Of Peace ( COP ) .

    God Bless Sgt Lashley!! And Thank you so much, sir!

  18. 5 Freedoms You Will Lose With Obama’s Health Care Reform:

    1. Freedom to choose what’s in your plan.

    2. Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living or pay your real costs

    3.Freedom to choose high deductibel coverage

    4.Freedom to keep your existing plan

    5.Freedom to choose your doctors

    http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/24/news/economy/health_care_reform_Obama.fortune/

  19. Kittcat,

    Do you have a link to that one? It sounds like a different one. Also someone posted a comment about they were searching for their own info on Ancestry .com. uk and they came up with Obama, Sr. info. It looked like there was a lot of info on him for those who wanted to explore. Is this what you’re talking about? Again … link? I haven’t seen what you are talking about.

    Oh, I hope it is the real deal! Then it’s … end game!

  20. jbjd–Forgive my ignorance. I don’t understand your message. Are you advocating America should accept Obama’s government take over of health care?

  21. Val,

    I found the link several subjects down on CW’s. Here it is: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=281blzk&s=3

    It’s still posted up, but it doesn’t mention what Orly is asking about, a E.F. Lavender, who was a British colonial registrar apparently in 1961. Here’s what she states at her blog:

    “Very important. i need verification that E. F. Lavender was British colonial registrar in Mombasa, Kenya in 1961.
    July 31st, 2009”

    I don’t see that name on this document. And another thing, off and on I watch that Lucas Smith YouTube place just to make sure nothing is going on. Someone says that they’re showing a video of the BC in August, but it doesn’t give the date. It’s that InspectorSmith place.

  22. Here’s what it says:

    “TheAmericanDistressC (4 hours ago)
    Spam Marked as spam
    “I will be releasing a video in August (yes, 2009) which entails information about the birth place of US President Barack Obama. This video will include footage of US President Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. You’ll see the birth certificate close up and from different angles. You’ll be able to distinguish and make out the embossed (or raised) seal on the certificate. Among the names on the certificate is a doctor that was present at the birth.”

    That’s interesting, I never knew that he was planning to release it in August. Who knows, maybe he will actually show us a video. “

  23. Kittycat,

    Yes I believe that is connected to Inspector Smith. I thought that whole thing was debunked as well. ??? Heck, I can’t keep up with all of it !!! LOL !

  24. Kittycat,

    I opened that Kenya BC link you posted just above, that’s the same one I saw. On top of page it says : Hoax. Am I missing something? That is the same one that someone says has an encrypted message in the background stating that it’s a joke.

    I’m lost ?????

  25. Kittycat,

    As far as the Ebay thing – I remember a lot of folks here had determined that to be another hoax. Again … I’m lost !!

    After Sammi Kohr ( API ) I’m like others here … I’ll believe when I see it !!

  26. Val

    Kittycat,

    Yes I believe that is connected to Inspector Smith. I thought that whole thing was debunked as well. ??? Heck, I can’t keep up with all of it !!! LOL !

    ******************************
    It was debunked , it’s a hoax……………..

  27. Army, then go find E.F. Lavender on that document, please? This is what Dr. Taitz is asking.

  28. I found this on Google about Lucas Smith. If you google his name, it’s down at the bottom of the first page:

    “Lucas Smith
    Send a message

    Writer, Nutrient Analyst and Engineer.
    Kenya

    *
    * About me

    Born January 4th, 1980 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Republican. Conservative. A great listener. Wholeheartedly against entitlement programs / income-support programs. Positive thinker, very optimistic. I’m not against communism or socialism, however, neither system is suitable for the United States of America. Capitalism is in the blood that flows through my veins. I wish that there had been better qualified candidates for the 2008 Presidential election. I had (and still have) a great deal of respect for John McCain. Although I’m sure that he wouldn’t have been the right man for the job either (especially with Palin as VP). After eight years of George W. Bush it’s not difficult to understand why Barack Obama was elected. Obama has a few good ideas but, I have no doubt that he will reduce the USA to the equivalent of a third world country within the next 7 years.

    I will be releasing a video in August (yes, 2009) which entails information about the birth place of US President Barack Obama. This video will include footage of US President Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. You’ll see the birth certificate close up and from different angles. You’ll be able to distinguish and make out the embossed (or raised) seal on the certificate. Among the names on the certificate is a doctor that was present at the birth.

    I do apologize for the lengthy delay. However, Obama has kept us waiting longer. He’s kept us waiting for several months now. There is no logical reason for the President not to release his original birth certificate.

    I’ve read about and have listened to discussion pertaining to the ‘birth announcements’ in two Hawaiian newspapers. The news outlets (excluding WND and possibly others that I don’t have knowledge of) now state in response to the ever growing number of patriots that question Obama’s birth place, “If these announcements consist of false information (disinformation) then that means that Obama’s parents or grandparents had plans for Obama to run for President from the time that he was born, or maybe even before he was born. They’d had to have had a conspiracy running for more than 4 decades. That’s just crazy!”

    These remarks by news outlets are often coupled with laughter and jokes.

    These remarks are tremendously naïve, or perhaps, intentionally naïve in a manner that makes for overlooking more realistic and palpable explanations.

    For the sake of argument we will assume that these newspapers really do contain Obama’s birth announcement. But first I will state for the record that no one has come forward with actual newspaper, only microfilm of the papers. Not difficult to swap with fakes nor to forge.

    The most sensible explanation is that there are tremendous benefits in being born an American. Free medical care for children (Title 19). Free public school education from K thru 12th grade. Free food (Food Stamps) if you can’t afford to buy your baby food to eat. Free housing for you and your baby until he or she turns 18 years old (Section 8 of the US Housing Act of 1937). A passport that grants you access to almost all countries in the world. A future that offers the opportunity of obtaining a great paying job. Loans for attending college and university. A long range and ever widening array of entitlement programs / supplemental income programs. The United States offers a nurturing environment for success. If you have the ambition and the aptitude you can achieve any measure of success in the United States. This is something that is not possible in many countries.

    Benefits such as these examples I’ve listed here in this article are not available in most countries, especially in the undeveloped world.

    I personally know women from the Caribbean that find their way to the United States on work visas and K-1 / K-2 visas with the intent of giving birth to a child on US soil. After the child’s birth and the mother’s enrolling in AFDC (Aid to Families with Dependent Children) they then return to their home countries with their new ADFC debit cards and withdraw more than $300 every month from local ATM machines. In some Caribbean nations the average monthly income is about the equivalent of $180 US dollars. And wait, it gets worse, much worse. If you are from Haiti you might not earn the equivalent to $300 US in a whole year.

    If your child was not born in the United States but you’d like to make it appear that they were then you’d have to put together as many possible pieces of ‘secondary’ evidence such as ‘birth announcements’ that your son or daughter was born in the Unites States. If you don’t have the primary documents such as a birth certificate (or at least a real United States of America birth certificate) then you need to marshal as many pieces of secondary forms of evidence and ID as you can.

    This strategy (creating secondary forms of evidence which are much easier to forge than primary ID such as a birth certificate or driver’s license) is not new and is used every day by those who seek fraudulent ID. These secondary forms of evidence and ID are then used to secure primary froms of ID.

    Once again this is all assuming that there ever were birth announcements of Obama in the two Hawaiian newspapers. We must not allow ourselves to be hoodwinked by such news reports without first due diligence and investigation on our part to verify such claims.

    Birth announcements are not the norm. As a matter-of-fact they are atypical. How many babies are born in Los Angeles every day? Or Chicago? New Orleans? Houston? Detroit? Are we to believe that the newspapers publish a telephone book-thick directory listing of each week’s new baby population? No, they don’t.

    Here’s an example. A few weeks ago I was talking on the phone with a friend that lives in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The population of CR is debatable (for many many many reasons). An educated guesstimate would be somewhere around the neighborhood of 200,000 or more. I asked my friend if they thought that the local Gazette published birth announcements. They said, “Oh yeah, of course.” I then asked my friend if they had the Gazette in the house right now. They did. I asked them to search the paper for birth announcements. To their surprise there were none. My friend then replied that birth announcements are probably published periodically.

    Three weeks have past and still no birth announcements.

    Maybe birth announcements are posted in the online version of the newspaper? Maybe.

    But there was no “online” when Obama was born. ARPANET wasn’t even an idea at that point.

    Where I grew up
    Florida, Iowa, Washington (State, not DC.) and Illinois.
    Places I’ve lived
    United States and abroad.”

  29. Barry Soetoro Fraud

    Sounds fair for the 84% to keep what they got, take care of the 16% minus illegals, and then most impt, clean up the medicare fraud that exists.

    I’m slow but average back home, but I think this would be a whole bunch cheaper and free er!

  30. I just found out about the Lucas Smith thing only because I check that place periodically, that’s all. But maybe theoretically, if Mr. Smith does really have it, he’s going to make it a b-day present.

  31. check out this article from JB…walls are closing in…when will somebody in the government act?

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13304

  32. kittycat // August 1, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Army, then go find E.F. Lavender on that document, please? This is what Dr. Taitz is asking.

    ***************************

    Kitty, I don’t get it , help me out here……..

  33. To one of the legal experts–jbjd maybe: I saw this on another blog–an off shoot from American Thinker I. It is an interesting take on stopping our ridiculous Congress. What do you think:

    “Ok. It is now time to ask the question. In Federal Court. Of Congress. If our duly elected representatives do not read a bill, and then vote on it, is that “law” constitutional? As a full citizen to the USA I say no. Since the last 6 months could arguably be called a trip through the looking glass, let’s take this line of thought further. If a duly elected representative did not read a bill proir to voting in favor of it, should said representative be subject to:
    1. Impeachment
    2. An immediate special election to replace him/her?
    I say yes to both.”
    posted by AL 8-1-3:47 am under the article “Congress Stupid” by Matt Patterson.

  34. John Feeny

    Interesting article to bring up. What are your thoughts on why he wrote an article on this subject dated in Apr 08?

  35. Val,

    That’s the only one that I’ve seen. To you and Army, I’m thinking that this is not what Dr. Taitz is talking about on her blog (meaning the one I linked you to) because she’s asking about that person, E. F. Lavender, the British Colonial registrar who was in Kenya in 1961. How did she know to ask about a specific name unless she’s got a document that has that name? I’m sorry if I’m confusing you. I don’t mean to be.

    Okay. Last week or the week before, Jacqlyn posted information about a document that she received in an e-mail, right? FR then debunked it, says it’s false.

    However, now Dr. Taitz is posting this and asking for help:
    “Very important. i need verification that E. F. Lavender was British colonial registrar in Mombasa, Kenya in 1961.
    July 31st, 2009”

    Now, maybe I’m assuming incorrectly here, but how would Dr. Taitz have this name unless it’s on a document that she has? I don’t see that name on the document link that I sent you to.

    Does this mean that Orly has a real Kenyan BC or what? Then she goes on to state:

    “Very important
    July 31st, 2009

    1. I need experts who can authenticate documents from Kenya.

    2. I need to find people who were born in Kenya in 1961 and have their birth certificate. I need to see it, I need to see how it looks like.

    3. I need to know who was the British registrar in Mombasa in 1961.

    If you have info, call me 949-683-5411. No crank calls please, and be short, please. I really don’t have any time for stories

    Posted in Uncategorized | 9 Comments »”

    See, Dr. Taitz must be talking about something that she is in possession of that has that E.F. Lavender name on it. She’s also asking for BC certificates of people born in Kenya in that year, 1961.

  36. THE CONSTITUTIONAL TRAIN WRECK

    Citizenwells – In December I read this comment by “Bob”. It is what fired me up and to become a study commenter. Where is “Bob” now that we need him? Please take the time everyone to read this article

    Bob // December 9, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Citizen –

    I started writing to my Congressman, and the more I wrote, the more I realized that the nation is heading straight into a Constitutional Train Wreck!

    I now disagree with MOST other commenters — I know now that both Obama and McCain have already FULLY DISCLOSED their ‘Citizenship Status,’ and the real problem is that everyone else has kept their ‘emotional blindfolds’ on, covering their faces with their hands over their eyes (while shrieking) perhaps even SCOTUS!

    Dick Cheney is the guy who needs to understand this, because he’s standing right in the middle of the tracks!

    Here’s what I came up with –

    ——————————————————-

    The Great Train Wreck of January 8, 2009

    The train has already left the station, but a broken “bridge is down on the track ahead,” somewhere between December 15, 2008 and January 20, 2009 — and this will affect all Electors, all Senators and all Representatives from every State in the Nation.

    We can see far enough ahead now so the ‘gap in the line’ has caught the attention of the national media. It’s not complicated. What that means is that when a wider audience finally grasps what’s going on here, the political fallout is likely to be “NUCLEAR!”

    This is what happened: both major parties in every State have elected Electors, but both major parties have offered Presidential candidates who are NOT ELIGIBLE to serve.

    This has been done out in the open, and both Presidential campaigns have understood that their candidates may be NOT ELIGIBLE, and both campaigns have taken steps to notify the public that it may be possible their candidates are NOT ELIGIBLE to serve.

    But, this is what both campaigns failed to see: They are asking Electors, Senators, and Representatives from every State in the Nation to violate the Law.

    And that’s the broken bridge that’s down on the tracks ahead,’ between the Electoral College and Inauguration Day. It’s a bridge neither party or candidate can cross! So, the House of Representatives is likely have to elect our next President.

    * * * * * * * *

    What both major parties have now to explain is why they spent so much time and treasure (much of it in taxpayer dollars) to nominate and promote TWO candidates, neither of whom was ever eligible to serve!

    This will be the scene of the “train wreck:”

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2009 the 111th Congress will meet, and all Members will take their Oath to support and defend the Constitution and to faithfully discharge their duties. On Thursday, January 8, 2009, at 1:00 PM, a Joint Session is scheduled to count the Electoral College votes of the 2008 Presidential election.

    At that moment, the President of the Senate, Dick Cheney, and all Members of Congress will know that they are required under Article II of the Constitution to elect only a “natural born Citizen . . . to the Office of President.” And, that Citizen will be neither Senator John McCain nor Senator Barack Obama, because by Law neither is eligible and cannot serve, and both of them know it; and both have disclosed that fact to the public that there is this possibility, so they can not be criticized for not informing all parties.

    They will both be asked to withdraw their names from consideration. And, at that moment the political fallout is likely to be “NUCLEAR!”

    * * * * * * * *

    How did this happen? The Republican Party questioned the eligibility of Senator John McCain, and so asked Laurence Tribe of Harvard and former U. S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson to offer a legal opinion. They did – finding that Senator John McCain was indeed a “natural born Citizen, under legal precedent and historical practice.” They attempted to meet head on a 1964 Supreme Court decision that ‘natural born Citizen’ meant ‘born inside the United States.’ What they failed to address were the full ramifications of all Acts of Congress, so their analysis was challenged, and that disclosed the fact that Congress had already acted years ago (under its authority) to address McCain’s Citizenship Status. That contradicts the legal opinion of Tribe and Olson.

    It has always been known that the rights of citizenship of the ‘native Citizen’ and of the ‘naturalized Citizen’ are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only a ‘natural born Citizen’ (Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5) is eligible to be President; and you can’t be a ‘natural born Citizen’ if your Citizenship is achieved through Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 of the Constitution, the authority of Congress to establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization, because you are then a ‘naturalized Citizen,’ and that is how McCain’s citizenship was achieved.

    To his credit, Senator John McCain knows that the opinion offered by Tribe and Olson has been challenged as falling short. However, it’s no longer consequential, because his Electoral votes have also fallen short. His major concern now is the audit by the Federal Election Commission (which will take about three years to complete), and whether the Commission will raise this issue, in order to recoup taxpayer matching funds.

    This is Senator Barack Obama’s obstacle: The 111th Congress will know that never in the history of the United States has a Citizen who has ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ on his or her ‘Date of Birth’ (subject to the laws of the United States) been considered by any Act of Congress, legal precedent or historical practice to be anything other than a ‘naturalized Citizen’ under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, regardless of where he or she was born. Why? Because ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ is addressed by an Act of Congress, and Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, specifically excludes it.

    Most Senators and Representatives have received letters from constituents about the Citizenship Status of Senator Obama and have replied by saying they are willing to accept assurances from Senator Barack Obama that he was born in the State of Hawaii, in Honolulu. Most letters have discussed the files of the Office of Health Status Monitoring, because Senator Obama seems unwilling to open them to the public. It’s irrelevant!

    Why? Senator Obama has posted on his website, “Fight the Smears,” and this information has been confirmed by FactCheck.org: Senator Obama is the son of a British subject, one who (at the time) owed his allegiance to the Queen, and this status governed all of Obama Sr.s’ children. Senator Obama has disclosed that he was a ‘Dual National’ on the ‘Date of Birth,’ (the only day that counts). Therefore, under the laws of the United States, he is a ‘naturalized Citizen’ no different from Senator John McCain.

    * * * * * * * *

    One thing to observe: If, at any time or under any circumstance, your Citizenship Status needs to be “clarified,” you are NOT a ‘natural born Citizen.’ So, there’s no mention of ‘natural born Citizen’ in the Code of Federal Regulations, except in passing.

    Congress made the mistake once in 1790. Five years later, in 1795, they repealed the Act, realizing that to pass an Act regulating ‘natural born Citizen,’ they would need to amend the Constitution. And, they have not made this mistake again since!

    FactCheck.org: “Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship.”

    “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act ‘governed the status’ of Obama Sr.’s children.

    Let me repeat that last line again:

    “That same act ‘governed the status’ of Obama Sr.’s children . . .”

    British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies ‘at the time of the birth.’

    That is the FULL DISCLOSURE by the Obama Campaign that Great Britain ‘governed the status’ of Barack Obama at the time of his birth.

    That begs the question: Is he responsible for the fact that voters of his party nominated him for the Presidency of the United States, even though he has FULLY DISCLOSED his Citizenship Status — and many voters still want to check out his Birth Certificate?

    His party is willing apparently to ignore the FULL DISCLOSURE, believing perhaps that Congress can cure the disability. However, other members of the public have shown themselves to be unwilling to ignore the FULL DISCLOSURE, and so it is the subject of legal challenges currently before the Supreme Court of the United States.

    * * * * * * * *

    However, because Barack Obama achieved his Citizenship Status through Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, as understood by the Framers of the Constitution, his disqualification to serve as President of the United States is ‘incurable’ by the Congress, or the Courts.

    That word ‘incurable’ is an advance description of the train wreck!

    Never before has this come up during his career, because ‘naturalized Citizens’ legally are equal in almost all respects to natural born Citizens. The single distinction is the disqualification of ‘naturalized Citizens’ for the offices of President and Vice President.

    Is it unfair?

    It’s the Law.

    Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr., (Illinois) IS qualified for the office of President: Sen. Barack Obama, Jr. (Illinois) IS NOT!

    There are (in fact) FIVE obstacles standing in Senator Obama’s way:

    1. The ‘natural born Citizen’ clause applies to his ‘date of birth’ (so his Kenyan and Indonesian ‘Dual Citizenships’ and what he has done about them are noteworthy, but not really relevant;

    2. ‘Dual and Multiple Citizenship’ is addressed by the Code of Federal Regulations, subsequent to an Act of Congress, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended through 1994, and is our current law;

    3. The 14th Amendment clause “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” usually is understood to mean “subject to the laws” of the United States” (therefore, subject to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended);

    4. Obama’s particular form of ‘Dual Citizenship’ (British) was specifically precluded by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 (and therefore is ‘incurable’ by Congress or the Courts);

    5. The constitutional duty of the President is to take care that the laws of the United Stated be faithfully executed. That is not possible to do, if the President is already disqualified from entering upon his office.

    * * * * * * * *

    Here is some history about this: We need to go back to the 39th Congress, where Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, father of the 14th Amendment, commenting on March 9, 1866 on the Civil Rights Act of 1866 (42 U.S.C., Section 1982), said that the first sentence of the 1866 Act means:

    “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents ‘not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty’ is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born Citizen.”

    Then, late 19th Century, the Supreme Court decided in United States v Wong Kim (169 U.S. 649 (1898)) (my summation) that on the basis of the 14th Amendment that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States is a ‘Citizen,’ but stopped short of declaring Kim a ‘natural born Citizen’ [because to do that would require still another amendment to the Constitution].

    Finally, we go all the way back to the Constitutional Convention, where according to James Madison’s notes, Mr. Gouverneur Morris of Pennsylvania said:

    “As to those philosophical gentlemen, those ‘Citizens of the World’ as they call themselves, He owned he did not wish to see any of them in our public Councils. He would not trust them. The men who can shake off their attachments to their own Country can never love any other.”

    Today, these words might be considered the words of a bigot!

    * * * * * * * *

    Now here is the Act of Congress: Justice Rehnquist (later Chief Justice) said the Constitution is “a political document noted for its brevity,” but it contains 11 instances addressing the ‘Citizen’ distinction: Art. 1, S 2, c 2; S 3, c 3, S 8, c 4; Art. 2, S 1, c 5, Art. 3, S 2, c 1; Art. 4, S 2, c 1, and in the 11th, 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amendments.

    The Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, gives Congress authority to establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization, and as a result, the 82nd Congress passed The McCarran-Walter Act, that is called “The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.”

    The 82nd Congress was controlled by a Democratic majority in both houses and that President Harry Truman vetoed the McCarran-Walter Act, but Congress overrode the veto and the Act became law.

    The Act was the product of the most extensive Congressional study in the nation’s history of the subject of Immigration and Nationality. It brought together and codified for the first time successive laws and decisions on immigration and naturalization.

    In the Act, Congress decided that the Secretary of State and the Attorney General were authorized, in their discretion and on a basis of reciprocity, to severally prescribe regulations implementing the Act. Those regulations are now codified in the Code of Federal Regulations.

    The Secretary of State codified her regulations concerning Citizens “born . . . in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 7 Foreign Affairs Manual (Consular Affairs), in order to advise U.S. nationals about their Citizenship: 7 FAM 1100 deals with the Acquisition and Retention of U.S. Citizenship and Nationality; 7 FAM 1110 deals with Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by Birth in the United States, including specifically ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ (7 FAM 1111.4).

    * * * * * * * *

    Before the “McCarran-Walter Act,” there was ‘common law:’ Under common law, as is clear from the comments made by Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, the phrase ‘natural born Citizen’ means “birth to parents who are Citizens,” and “subject to the laws of the United States.” The phrase was so understood by William Blackstone’s Commentaries, “Natural-born subjects are such as are born . . . within the allegiance of the king . . .”

    It should be obvious that the applicable phrase in first sentence of the 14th Amendment, “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” is a substitute for the phrase, “within the allegiance of the king,” in Blackstone’s Commentaries.

    That same word, “allegiance,” is used by Rep. John Bingham of Ohio when he says above that “every human being” born to parents “not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereign is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born Citizen.”

    The common law was displaced in full when the Secretary of State codified her regulations concerning ‘Dual or Multiple Nationality’ (7 FAM 1111.4), in fulfillment of the McCarran-Walter Act. Therefore, any Citizen whose Citizenship Status is subject to the Act is by Law a “naturalized Citizen,” and also disqualified for the Presidency.

    * * * * * * * *

    What can be done? All Electors can object. All Members of Congress can object. Then the House and Senate will withdraw to their respective Chambers to consider the merits of objections according the procedure set out under 3 U.S.C. Section 15.

    Before the list of the votes are entered on the Journals of the two Houses, the President of the Senate, Dick Cheney, will call for the objections, if any.

    “Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same will be received.”

    The Electoral College consists of 538 electors (one for each of 435 members of the House of Representatives and 100 Senators; and 3 for the District of Columbia.

    If, based on any objections, no presidential candidate wins a majority of electoral votes, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution provides for the presidential election shall be decided by the House of Representatives. I’m convinced that this will be the case!

    The House will select the President by majority vote, choosing from three candidates who received the greatest number of Electoral Votes. (However, remaining are only two candidates: Senator Joseph Biden (Delaware), and Governor Sarah Palin (Alaska)).

    The vote would be taken by State, with each State delegation having ONE VOTE. How many State delegations are Republican, and how many are Democrat?

    The House will vote for President, the Senate will vote for Vice President.

    So, it’s not impossible that Senator Joseph Biden (D, Delaware), or Governor Sarah Palin (R, Alaska), will be our next President of the United States, and the other will be our next Vice President of the United States.

  37. VAL……………………………………..

    The Kenyan certificate is probably genuine, by virtue of what it is only. Sadly that is where it all stops. I am now of the belief that this alleged BC was originally part of a larger printed piece upon which the BC was used in an aesthetic manner. I believe that the printed BC was clipped from the printed piece. There is evidence of this when the lower left portion is viewed. The extreme lower edge has a small area attached which is GREEN in color. I would NOT expect OFFICIAL documents to be multi color. However they were often printed in an orange color for certain birth records in at least one county in England which is Nottinghamshire. This would further pertain to the year 1906. Subsequent,or prior years remain an unknown,and could be any color. I cite the 1906 date only because it is the date of my father’s birth in Nottingham, England. I recently passed all of my records on to my eldest son for his watch. The background on the alleged BC was printed in a light orange tint that became more visible with enlargement. In truth,it was printed in Dutch, and made references to certain facts which would never appear on any birth certificate. In short we were nearly taken in by the authentic appearance of the Certificate Form itself. This seems to lend credibility to the belief that we should always examine documents very closely.

  38. This can’t be for real, can it?

    Glenn Beck: Cars.gov allows government to takeover your computer

  39. Another good article if hasn’t been posted already.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13295

  40. A THEORY ON THE GREAT TRAIN WRECK. MAYBE THE REPUBLICANS ARE WAITING UNTIL THE NEXT CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS OF 2010. IF YOU READ THE LAST 3 PARAGRAPHS-

    “The vote would be taken by State, with each State delegation having ONE VOTE. How many State delegations are Republican, and how many are Democrat?

    The House will vote for President, the Senate will vote for Vice President.

    So, it’s not impossible that Senator Joseph Biden (D, Delaware), or Governor Sarah Palin (R, Alaska), will be our next President of the United States, and the other will be our next Vice President of the United States.”

  41. MAYBE WE WILL GET OUR JOAN OF ARC YET

  42. Oldsalt,

    I was just going to ask where you were!! LOL ! I remember you posting a comment about doing some of your own family research and you stated that you recognized the Kenya BC as “looking” official.

    I’m glad you were here to comment on this.

  43. Ms HELGA……………………………………..

    I have long believed that Soetoro is the true name of the person now occupying the Whitehouse. I believe that he has NEVER had his birthname reinstated. He most likely thinks that he doesn’t have to,or he can use any name he chooses. Among other laws with regard to the POTUS is the necessity for a legally RECORDED name, shown on a genuine birth certificate. Since he has refused to show his birth certificate then there is enough doubt as to him being who he says he is that ANY jurisdiction could arrest him on probable cause. At which point he will be required to show his vault COLB to prove who he is. He should be held until his identity can be determined accurately. Sadly a couple of red-neck deputies from Southern Kentucky (BOSS HOG TYPE) could execute such an arrest. Of course they will need all the pertaining paperwork. He made the mistake of sticking his nose into STATE level law, which affects all 50 states. Now he is vunerable to the laws of ANY state.

  44. shout @ 2:37: call it what you want…though very ‘clever’ their reading…your question still gets my suspicions up as to the true allegience of the one whom you are asking…more clever, say, than smstrauss…as pointed out by several others. I not asking you to ‘choose sides’…just find your question “curiouser-and-curiouser”.
    Correct me if I’m wrong, please.

  45. I say about BO “cuff him and stuff him” like Roscoe said on Dukes of Hazzard. He is guilty of murder, taking down our free country at break neck speed and lying to everyone with his fraudulent papers online. I hope that soon the grand jury movement gets enforced.

  46. Rocknee,

    J.B. Williams article is the best one I’ve seen. Wow !

    You couldn’t have heard the truth any purer.

    Inspirational !

    The hair stood up on my head while reading it.

  47. I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE MUST KEEP OUR POWDER DRY UNTIL AFTER THE 2010 ELECTION. IF WE PRE-FIRE NOW WE GET A DEMOCRAT, BUT BY WAITING UNTIL 2010 WE MIGHT GET A CONSTITUTIONAL-REPUBLICAN PALIN. HOTDAMN

  48. Ms Helga

    Cant wait to hear Sarah Palin’s remarks at the Reagan Library next week. Hope it indicates some of her objectives.

  49. ReDo–

    Until I get JBJD’s response to my question, I am keeping an open mind. I don’t know is the best and most honest answer I can give.

  50. Rocknee – I am sad to say that I heard on MSNBC this AM that she has cancelled. They didn’t say why
    PS- I have to watch the enemy to know what they are up to.

  51. Remember the Clinton election. The first congressional election after he won. the Republicans cleaned house. This is what we must have happen now and hold-off stirring the pot too much. AND THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

  52. Well it is 4PM now. TEA TIME

  53. USAP-shout, no, I completely reject BO’s ‘health care’ proposal. Have you viewed the Frontline (PBS) program I linked, Sick Around the World? See how universal health is accomplished elsewhere; no need for us to re-invent the wheel. (But definitely, linking health insurance to employment is a non-starter.)

  54. LAST COMMENT FOR AWHILE- I Just did the anagram for the infamous SENATOR AL FRANKEN and it came out RANK ANAL SOFTENER!!

  55. ms. helga, Rocknee,

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Libs seem to be spreading around that Sara and Todd are going to “Splitsville”.

    I saw this on an obnoxious Lib chat room:

    Todd and Sarah Palin to divorce
    Affairs on both sides

    Updated 10:22am AKDT

    AlaskaReport has learned this morning that Todd Palin and former Alaska governor Sarah Palin are to divorce. Multiple sources in Wasilla and Anchorage have confirmed the news.

    http://alaskareport.com/news39/x71283_divorce_palins.htm

    Well, take it for what it’s worth. To what extent will they go? LOL!

  56. citizenwells

    ** New post **

  57. JBJD

    I did look at the site. It didn’t seem to reject health care. It only described how each country handled their health care.

    I am glad we are on the same page about Obama Care which–in my limited opinion–is not about health care but about more direct hands on control of every facet of the private citizen’s life and a take over of the insurance business which represent about 20% of American business.

    It is also a senior death sentence. I fear if it gets passed I will not get the care my mother has gotten and gets when I near her age–or even now since I am now, too, a senior citizen.

  58. This is a comment from James:

    I found some new information about the Iowa Guy who claims he has Obama’s Kenyan BC. Perhaps you should follow this up:
    http://www.google.com/profiles/110044766822103526426

    “I will be releasing a video in August (yes, 2009) which entails information about the birth place of US President Barack Obama. This video will include footage of US President Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. You’ll see the birth certificate close up and from different angles. You’ll be able to distinguish and make out the embossed (or raised) seal on the certificate. Among the names on the certificate is a doctor that was present at the birth.”

    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7466841558189356289&postID=4793164001032670018

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  60. Jdjb- Looks like Children born to Foreign nationals are not US citizens… what’s your
    interpretation ( assuming Sr. and Ann were married)

    7 FAM 1116.2-2 Officers and Employees of Foreign Embassies and
    Consulates and their Families
    (TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)
    a. Under international law, diplomatic agents are immune from the criminal jurisdiction
    of the receiving state. Diplomatic agents are also immune, with limited exception, from the
    civil and administrative jurisdiction of the state. The immunities of diplomatic agents extend
    to the members of their family forming part of their household. For this reason children born
    in the United States to diplomats to the United States are not subject to U.S. jurisdiction
    and do not acquire U.S. citizenship under the 14th Amendment or the laws derived from it.

  61. USAP-shout, each of those capitalist democracies – Switzerand, Taiwan, German, Great Britain, and Japan, has nationalized health care. No one worries about whether her mother will be taken care of. No one goes bankrupt paying medical bills. And, according to the CIA, infant mortality rates – that is, the rate of deaths in the first year of life – is lower in all of these countries than ours. <a href="https://cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html"<CIA INFANT MORTALITY RATES AROUND THE WORLD

    Per capital expenditures in these 5 (five) countries is also much lower than in this country. Watch the program. Take notes and do some research. Be an educated consumer. I reach conclusions about what policies I support as the result of solid research, and not bullying or coercion, or catchy marketing slogans or campaigns.

  62. Georgetown

    Haven’t heard Obama Sr. a diplomat or foreign service offficer. Tho, he is a foreign national. Unless it’s another pappy.

  63. The Libs are really in the attack mode:

    Palin Spokespeople Deny Divorce Rumor.
    Describe Blog Report That Former Alaska Gov. and Husband Will Divorce as “Categorically False”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/01/politics/main5204228.shtml

    ****************************************
    Reese // August 1, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    ms. helga, Rocknee,

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Libs seem to be spreading around that Sara and Todd are going to “Splitsville”.

    I saw this on an obnoxious Lib chat room:

    Todd and Sarah Palin to divorce
    Affairs on both sides

    Updated 10:22am AKDT

    AlaskaReport has learned this morning that Todd Palin and former Alaska governor Sarah Palin are to divorce. Multiple sources in Wasilla and Anchorage have confirmed the news.

    http://alaskareport.com/news39/x71283_divorce_palins.htm

    Well, take it for what it’s worth. To what extent will they go? LOL!

  64. Thanks Rocknee, probably need DNA to prove otherwise, Can you imagine the anger the people in Africa will feel? the Rage, the willful, knowingly misrepresentation. the betrayl. The same way people will feel here when the truth comes out that he was born elsewhere… What a mess no wonder they want to keep this under wraps.

  65. Hi….

  66. TWO SIGNIFICANT EVENTS TO CONSIDER:

    • Fukino issued another statement.

    • Birthers are being declared, by experts stating to the press, as being: militant, racist, members of hate groups, deniers of the haloucaust and being inflamed by Lou Dobbs and others that report on this issue.

    -So, I am requesting ALL the President’s VITAL RECORDS, on behalf of the safety of the President, and all Americans whose safety is compromised as a result of inflamed citizens fueled by the withholding of his VITAL RECORD. PER PROVISION (15)

    Agency Records that Must Always Be Disclosed (§92F-12) *BECAUSE THERE IS “PUBLIC INTEREST” TO RULE for DISCLOSURE*

    The Legislature created a list of specific categories of records that must ALWAYS BE DISCLOSED.

    (An exception only applies where it is NOTED***):
    I cite the two provisions within [(3) & (15)]:

    (15) Information collected for the purpose of making information available to the public (***NO EXCEPTION NOTED/NOT EVEN BIRTH RECORDS)

    (Dr. Fukino’s TWO statements of information to the public apply here.)

    I requested ALL his VITAL RECORDS and the policy and procedure, etc, etc… used to make that information public.

    Because in order for the Dr. to have done these procedures: “seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures”

    She would have to verify every field on the form is filled out “in accordance with state policies and procedures”

    SECOND RULE I CITE:

    (3) (Agencies must also disclose) Records where compelling circumstances show an effect on the health or safety of any individual; (***NO EXCEPTION NOTED/NOT EVEN BIRTH RECORDS)

    (I cite this article from the AFP as support: “”Right-wing fringe claims Obama ineligible for presidency”, By Virginie Montet.”

    And the expert opinions within.

    Like this for example: “So you have this right-wing social movement, relatively small but angry, and then you have these major public figures, inflaming them with rhetoric and conspiracy allegations on national television,” Berlet told AFP.

    INFLAME: to incite or rouse, as to violence:
    ex. “His words inflamed the angry mob to riot.”

    I requested ALL his VITAL RECORDS on the provision that protects and considers the safety & health of the President, (or anyone) so ***SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INTEREST*** is gained when you consider the disclosure of ALL his VITAL RECORDS protects also “inflamed” people on the left AND right AND protects ALL Americans, therefore. Disclosure would extinguish that which is “INFLAMING.”

    Further, as to requesting and ruling on disclosing ALL his VITAL RECORDS, if they are under court ordered seal they can’t comply but have to cite that exception: Record(s) under court seal.

    Outside of that, the only significant information, as I understand, that can be withheld from disclosure is BIRTH DATE and ETHNICITY.

    The rest of the record should be released per UIPA guidelines which state they should always err on the side of the person making the records’ request.

    This is how the Privacy EXCEPTION is applied:

    Exception 1 – The Privacy Exception (§92F-13(1))
    An agency may withhold access to a record if disclosure of the record would constitute a “clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy[.]” To withhold a record under this exception, an agency must be able to show that:

    (1) An individual has a ***SIGNIFICANT PRIVACY INTEREST***
    in the information contained in the record; and

    (2) The ***SIGNIFICANT PRIVACY INTEREST*** is not outweighed
    by the public interest in disclosure.

    What is a ***SIGNIFICANT PRIVACY INTEREST***? (§92F-14)

    (IN THIS CASE IT’S THIS: OIP has further recognized that an individual has a significant privacy interest in his or her home contact information, date of birth, and ethnicity.

    THE WHOLE RECORD ISN’T WITHHELD:

    (**AND NONE OF THESE APPLY***) The list (also) includes information about an individual’s:

    (1) Medical history, condition, and treatment;
    (2) Criminal law investigation, except where
    disclosure is necessary to prosecute or
    continue the investigation;
    (3) Eligibility for social services or welfare
    benefits;
    (4) Public employment personnel file type
    information, except information required
    to be disclosed under §92F-12(a)(14) and
    employee misconduct information if
    employee is suspended or discharged; or
    for county police officers if discharged;
    (5) Nongovernmental employment history
    except where information qualifies a
    government employee for his or her
    position;
    (6) Financial information;
    (7) Professional and vocational licensee
    qualifications except:
    (a) certain discipline information;
    (b) current employment information and
    required insurance coverage of
    licensee; and
    (c) complaints and dispositions;
    (8) Personal recommendations or
    evaluations; and
    (9) Social security numbers.

    ON RULING A DECISION ON MY REQUEST:

    “An agency must balance the significant privacy interest against the public interest in disclosure of the information. If the public interest is found to outweigh the individual privacy interest, the agency must disclose the information. Where an agency cannot identify a significant privacy interest, the slightest public interest in disclosure will require the agency to disclose the record.”

    Have you read the Hawaii UIPA Records and Information Request Guidelines?
    http://www.state.hi.us/oip/UIPA%20Manual%205aug08.pdf

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2305734/posts

  67. shout @ 4:09: I’m not trying to jump to conclusions either…but even the 5:24 post has a funny odor to it…or maybe I’m the one who needs a shower…heh…honestly, at this point I’m inclined to weigh your assessment with the highest regard. As for how I view things…I’ll echo the remarks of the famous one, one more time…even if only for the laugh…
    kudos to the honorable Mr. Berra:
    “sometimes you can observe a lot by watching.”

  68. People, when someone quotes; “the U.S. is rated 39th in overall health care” the criteria which is used is from the W.H.O. (U.N.) which is rating ONLY Government subsidized health care.
    Private health care is NOT calculated into their
    findings.

    Figures lie, when liars figure.

  69. My Father fought in World War 2 and all the insurance companies denied him because he had diabetis.

    We are storming the beaches of healthcare reform not only for the living Americans; this fight is for all of those who have fallen before us. All the denied and looked over Americans that aren’t with us anymore and gave their lives for this victory.

  70. Nobody.
    We all agree we need Health Care Reform.
    Not Obama, socialist, government run health care.
    Not Obama health care like his crony Blagojevich tried to pull to rip off the people of IL.
    Real reform, of trial attorneys getting rich off of average Americans.
    Policies sold across state boundaries.
    Portability.

  71. I live in California. Health insurance from New Jersey isn’t the answer.

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