Speaking about the US Constitution:
“it is an imperfect document.” Barack Obama
“Why should we be governed by people long dead? … In any case, the group that ratified the Constitution included just a small subset of the society; it excluded all women, the vast majority of African Americans, many of those without property, and numerous others who were not permitted to vote.” Cass Sunstein
“we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.” Signers of The Declaration of Independence
I am not aware of Barack Obama or Cass Sunstein pledging their lives, their fortunes or their sacred honor to preserve the US.
I received the following article in an email today:
“In the world of Obama there cannot be any dissent or criticism of the master designer (no, not God – President Barack Obama) and any attempts to impugn the Obama plans for “change” must be demolished. So if negativity comes from the internet , then of course the blogosphere must be added to litany of government control and censorship.
The recent Obama intended appointment of Cass Sunstein, a Harvard Law professor, to the position of head of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs is the next nail in the coffin of the First Amendment. In this position Sunstein will have powers that are unprecedented and very far reaching; not merely mind-boggling but with explicit ability to use the courts to stifle free speech if it opposes Obama policies. In particular, Sunstein thinks that the bloggers have been “rampaging out of control” and that “new laws need to be written” to contain them. Advance copies of Sunstein’s new book, “On Rumors: How Falsehoods Spread, Why We Believe Them, What Can Be Done,” have gone out to reviewers ahead of its September publication date, but considering the new position to which Sunstein is about to be appointed, the powers with which Sunstein will be endowed are very, very, troubling.
The Wall Street Journal reported that “the post wields outsize power. It oversees regulations throughout the government, from the Environmental Protection Agency to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Obama aides have said the job will be crucial as the new administration overhauls financial-services regulations, attempts to pass universal health care and tries to forge a new approach to controlling emissions of greenhouse gases.””
“Sunstein will be another Obama “Czar” but will really be the chief regulator of what can or cannot appear on the internet. It is very scary that the person who will be in charge of public cyberspace believes that – “Whether you’re a blogger or the York Times or a Web hosting service – you should be held responsible even for what your comments say.” Currently you’re immune under section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. “Reasonable people,” he says, “might object that this is not the right rule,” though he admits that imposing liability for comments on service providers would be “a considerable burden.””
Read more:
I decided to find out more about this radical law professor with a long time association with Obama. Below are a collection of quotes attributed to Cass Sunstein. It is beleived that these quotes are accurate.
Second Amendment
“Consider the view that the Second Amendment confers an individual right to own guns. The view is respectable, but it may be wrong, and prominent specialists reject it on various grounds.”
“The National Association of Broadcasters and others with similar economic interests
typically use the First Amendment in precisely the same way the National Rifle
Association uses the Second Amendment. We should think of the two camps as
jurisprudential twins.”
Hunting & Animal Rights
“We ought to ban hunting”
“[Humans’] willingness to subject animals to unjustified suffering will be seen … as a form of unconscionable barbarity… morally akin to slavery and the mass extermination of human beings.”
Free Speech
“A legislative effort to regulate broadcasting in the interest of democratic principles should not be seen as an abridgment of the free speech guarantee.”
“I have argued in favor of a reformulation of First Amendment law. The overriding goal of the reformulation is to reinvigorate processes of democratic deliberation, by ensuring greater attention to public issues and greater diversity of views.”
“Consider the “fairness doctrine,” now largely abandoned but once requiring radio and television broadcasters:
…[I]n light of astonishing economic and technological changes, we must doubt whether, as interpreted, the constitutional guarantee of free speech is adequately serving democratic goals. It is past time for a large-scale reassessment of the appropriate role of the First Amendment in the democratic process.”
Taxes
“In what sense in the money in our pockets and bank accounts fully ‘ours’? Did we earn it by our own autonomous efforts? Could we have inherited it without the assistance of probate courts? Do we save it without the support of bank regulators? Could we spend it if there were no public officials to coordinate the efforts and pool the resources of the community in which we live?… Without taxes there would be no liberty. Without taxes there would be no property. Without taxes, few of us would have any assets worth defending. [It is] a dim fiction that some people enjoy and exercise their rights without placing any burden whatsoever on the public fisc. … There is no liberty without dependency. That is why we should celebrate tax day …”
Second Bill of Rights
“My major aim in this book is to uncover an important but neglected part of America’s heritage: the idea of a second bill of rights. In brief, the second bill attempts to protect both opportunity and security, by creating rights to employment, adequate food and clothing, decent shelter, education, recreation, and medical care.”
“Much of the time, the United States seems to have embraced a confused and pernicious form of individualism. This approach endorses rights of private property and freedom of contract, and respects political liberty, but claims to distrust “government intervention” and insists that people must fend for themselves. This form of so-called individualism is incoherent, a tangle of confusions.”
“For better or worse, the Constitution’s framers gave no thought to including social and economic guarantees in the bill of rights.”
Read more:
http://stopsunstein.com/media/pdf/Sunstein%20quote%20file.pdf
Citizen WElls 
THE DEMOCRAT PARTY’S MANIFESTO – Please Read # 31
1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by lack of Federal funding.
2. You have to believe that the school system that can’t teach a fourth grader how to read is some how the best qualified to teach those same children all about sex.
3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of law abiding Americans, are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists.
4. You have to believe there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth’s climate, and more affected by Americans driving SUVs.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand.
8. You have to believe that business creates oppression and governments create prosperity.
9. You have to believe that hunters don’t care about nature, but loony activists from Seattle do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe that the U.S. Military,not evil and tyrannical regimes, start wars.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee, or Thomas Edison.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is all about “progress” and not power. She just wants to help us out of the archaic system of governing that we have been subjected to since our founding.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn’t worked anywhere it’s been tried, is because the right people haven’ t been in charge. (I’ve got news for you. It has never worked because the RIGHT people have been in charge.)
18. You have to believe Republicans telling the truth belong in jail, but a cheat, liar and sex offender belon gs in the White House and you would vote him back in there in a New York Minute (if you could).
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.
21. You have to believe that the vociferous minorities who protest against prayer and saluting the flag in school have far more rights than the majority who believe in God and country, and want these values instilled in our young children.
22. You have to believe in MOB RULE and not RULING THE MOB (The Republican way).
23. You must not listen to Rush Limbaugh.
24 Trade Unions and Trial Lawyers are our strength and power.
25 The Main Stream Media and Hollywood are our propagandists.
26- FEMINISTS and GAYS are the men of our party.
27- The Terri Schiavo case proves we and a two-timing husband have more power than GOD and 2 loving parents.
28- WE HAVE TO CUT & RUN FROM IRAQ BECAUSE IF
THE U.S. HELPS THEM WIN – WE LOSE.
29- WE AND THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA MUST NEVER LET THE TRUTH
ABOUT TWA FLIGHT 800 (www.cashill.com) AND THE ARKANSAS PRISON TO CANADA BLOOD SCANDAL ( http://www.factor8movie.com) TO GET OUT TO RUIN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION’S REPUTATION.
30 – Remember what our Uncle Joe Stalin said-”It’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes”
31 – Our success will be realized when we are able to place an unconstitutional and ineligible candidate into the White House, causing our enemies to change the name of Washington, DC to USURPERVILLE(Google it up) .
32- LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE ARE THE PARTY FOR THE LOSERS IN
LIFE AND WE(The Elitists -ie-
Kerry or Soros) CAN ONLY KEEP OUR POWER BY KEEPING THEM
THERE.
33- You have to swear to the : THE DEVIL’S CODE
HIS HEART DOES NOT EXIST
HE SPEAKETH WITHA FORKED TONGUE
HIS STRENGTH UPHOLDS THE WICKED
HIS SWORD SLAYS THE DEFENSELESS
HIS WRATH UNDOES THE INNOCENT
‘
BUT NOT TO THE: THE KNIGHT’S CODE
HIS HEART KNOWS VIRTUE
HIS TONGUE SPEAKS ONLY TRUTH
HIS STRENGTH UPHOLDS THE WEAK
HIS SWORD DEFENDS THE HELPLESS
HIS WRATH UNDOES THE WICKED
THIS WAS TH E OATH OF A FIGHTER PILOT. Keep forwarding and add more
PS-THE COWBOY AND FIGHTER PILOT IS AMERICA’S VERSION OF OLD EUROPE’S CHIVALRY AND KNIGHTHOOD.
PSS – BOBBY KENNEDY WAS KILLED B Y SIRHAN SIRHAN A PALESTINIAN AND POPE JOHN PAUL WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE KILLED BY ALI MEHMET AGCA A TURKISH MUSLIM. THIS STARTED IN 1968. HOW SOON WE FORGET
Send this to 1000 Friends or 1000 times to One Enemy.
Link to Glenn Beck show today:
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/25439775/shell-game.htm
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Patriot Dreamer // July 23, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Chris Matthews and G. Gordon Liddy on the NBC/birth certificate controversy:
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/07/msnbcs-chris-matthews-questions-g.html
TELL ME GORDON IS NOT DRUGED
RUSH IS ON GRETA 2NITE AT 10PM EST
As soon as i heard of proffesor gate without knowing zero facts, i said obama tied to him somehow. Don’t you find it odd 9 breakin’s that week. through off the scent of suspision. Then who was the person who called in the 911. suspison. well it happens to be a harvard magazine writer just walking by, la la la. The good professor just happens to be wrting a book about this subject matter, race. obama has a planned vacation to where ? oh! marthas vineyard. Also our Governor is black. Imagine the reception and the forgivness he will get when he comes to town. Oh boy. CNN dream coverage. I can see it now. Obama comes to racial tenison town. I don’t for a second believe anything he is associated to is, by just happens to be a man in my neighborhood bill ayers moment. Someone should dig deeper in to the caller of the 911. She could be a obotplant.. This was all to hollywood script moment for me.
Yes, things were “hot” on Lou Dobbs tonight.
I think that was Roland Martin—boy was he
screaming —I think his “volume” indicates
the FEAR that the Obots are experiencing now
with the thought their leader is falling fast.
Lou told him it wasn’t only himself who had
questions—there were 600,000 people out
there who have questions , too.
+++++++++++++
Loved the in-depth “race card” discussion
about how BO should have kept his mouth
shut when he had no knowledge of the
professor’s actions at the scene after his
neighbor called 911.
IMHO I strongly believe this professor saw
a great opportunity to scream “racial profiling”
and ran with it. I’m slightly wondering if the
WHOLE THING was a set up. It is taking
some focus off of the Healthcare issue.
This prof is a “friend” of BO’s —-could this
be another Alinsky switcheroo?
truthbetold @ July 23, 2009 at 8:36 pm –
BINGO! Every word you wrote.
When the going gets tough (dropping polls, all the BC chatter, criticism from some media outlets, Obamacare vote cancelled, Crap & Tax postponed) Obama cries “raaaaaaaacist”.
It’s getting as lame as “we inherited this mess”.
I was SURE that was a setup.
There’s no reason to be tugging at the front door when the back door was already opened. It was a lame argument/setup. They’d already gotten in the back and were trying to jimmy the front door because someone had tampered with it. Well, it’s much easier to open the door from the inside, aka take off the fricking hinges, if the lock was stuck.
This was a
SETUP
ms. helga // July 23, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Patriot Dreamer // July 23, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Chris Matthews and G. Gordon Liddy on the NBC/birth certificate controversy:
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/07/msnbcs-chris-matthews-questions-g.html
TELL ME GORDON IS NOT DRUGED
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Yeah, G. Gordon’s not looking so well. How old is he now? 78?
Anyways, terrible job on presenting the case.
I wonder why all of the TV media attention all of a sudden after ignoring it for all these months. Is it because BO’s polls are down?
Patriot Dreamer – Not only is BO’s rating, but also the networks too. That is why they are caught in their own vise. Hopefully now they will go all out to out due each other with the elegibility question. Thingd should be speeding up now.
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:d:i:g:i:t:a:l:d:u:s:t: // July 23, 2009 at 8:30 pm
@ usapatriots-shout // July 23, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Amen!
Thanks!
{July 23, 2009 at 7:38 pm}
btw what city was it?
Hey everybody, be careful NOT to equate animal loving people with Obama.
Take it from me, Obama is no friend to animals and he is just using well-intentioned folks who are against hunting animals for fun, sport, recreation, as a PLOY to get Americans to give up their guns.
Please do not put animals in the middle of this fight, it’s not fair to them and it only makes our animals yet another victim of Obama’s.
Go ahead and hate what Obama is doing, but leave the poor animals out of it. How dare Obama cross over into that territory.
Every time some politician uses the plight of animals as their platform it only hurts the animals, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.
So leave the animals out of it and focus on Obama’s ploy to get us to turn in our guns.
Thanks and thanks for all you do, but careful on who you get dragged into Obama’s camp. CUZ IT DEFINITELY AIN’T THE ANIMALS. They don’t like him either.
“Hardball”: Liddy Thinks Obama Is An Illegal Alien!
I believe they knew and they are gonna get in who they want.
Liddy is NOT the guy to take on this battle!
Am e-mailing Lou Dobbs right now to ask him to get off the BC and onto the Kenyan daddy issue!
So how did this serve us? Anyone?
I went over to Roland’s site and let him have it as Phil had covered before. Then I see him on dobbs.
Others should go to his site check it out over at Right Side.
Lou needs to get on the Framers WAVELENGTH!
How frustrating!
I went over to respond to a piece over at politico about Pelosi’s desperate press conference.Total Meltdown they have a u-tube. she was saying she’s not afraid of August.
I responded that it would have been funny if Lou Dobbs @ Corsi of WND had been in the press room and asked her if they thought they could get the HC bill passed before the eligibility issue gets hot!
Hawaii now says it’s discarded the president paper birth certificate (how convenient)
http://countusout.wordpress.com/
OT, but just found this interesting blog article: “Scams and Bailouts the Cause of World Depression”
economic destruction of America a real threat, debts too massive for paper to absorb, mysteries still surround Madoff, the Goldman scam, 57 banks have now gone under this year, families struggle to pay college bills, TARP a mystery to taxpayers, no stability at AIG, jobless benefits drying up for workers The US Illuminists are gambling big. This is the most dangerous part of their strategy, namely, how to take down America and the dollar without destroying themselves in the process, both financially and politically. They are going to get smoked.
link to the rest of the article:
http://theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Scams_And_Bailouts_The_Cause_of_World_Depression
Anyone want to WEIGH in on Chester Arthur-burned docs syndrome? How will this ‘LOOK’ to a judge.
The Liddy interview had the appearance of senior citizen abuse by a really brutal reporter.I am wondering if this will make people realize SUMTHINS UP.
Magna @ 9:52,
Yep, I think somethings up and I’m afraid it ain’t gonna be good !
Roland martin is an a$$wipe! And why isn’t ANYONE talking about “who’s the babies daddy?”
And why are they saying Native Born when it should be Natural Born?
Liddy was horrible for this issue. Lou Dobbs needs to get someone else on who will not only discuss the BC being sealed, but the college records, passports, etc… So what’s with the BC document number? What can that do for our cause. They must have taken care of this issue for it to be making the headlines.
I have a feeling they’re up to sumptin and it’s not good.
And BTW Roland Martin – that document would NOT get BO registered for Little League! Been there and done that! I had a document from the hospital with footprints, date and time, hospital, etc… Nope!!! I had to get the OFFICIAL BC with Docs signature, witness, etc..
I think we should bombard Lou Dobbs inbox, and see if he’ll invite someone like Steve Pidgeon, or someone like Steve.
We need to hook Lou up with some real firepower, and get him OFF the birth certificate issue asap!
We need someone who can get Lous attention focused on the fact the Barack Obama Sr. was NEVER a US Citizen, and that one fact alone disqualifies Obama.
He’s harping on this bc issue, and that’s probably what he’s fixing to get if Obama and his forgers have their way.
val // July 23, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Hi Val,
I did send that e-mail to Lou Dobbs with a quote from the Constitution explaining Article II, Section 1.
Told him that the focus should shift from the BC to Obama, Sr.
Maybe he’ll read it…
You’re right-get someone on his show that can discuss this intelligently. Roland Martin refuses to listen. He made me ill.
The South,
Just did it!
This is what what I just wrote to LouDobbsdotcnn:
” PLEASE don’t focus on the birth certificate so much as Mr. Obama is not a ‘natural born citizen due to his father being a foreigner and not an American citizen.
Please educate yourself on what a ‘natural born citizen’ is !!!!!!
The liberals whom now realize what ‘natural born citizen’ means are saying, ‘why do we need such a stupid law?
People are slowly coming around to knowing what ‘natural born citizen’ means. Roland Martin used the term ‘native born citizen’ which is NOT ‘natural born citizen’.
On Mr. Obama’s website, Fight the Smears.com, he may not have misled the American people as to his claim of being a ‘native born citizen’ because he may very well have been born in Hawaii, but this status is not by definition, the same as a ‘natural born citizen’.
‘Natural born citizen’ is born in the USA of two American citizens.
Obama’s father was a British subject until 1964 and then became a citizen of Kenya.
Loyalty and allegiance plays a fair ball game when it comes to all ‘citizenship’ requirements, but when it comes to the ‘natural born citizen’ requirement, it is – unmatched!
And finally, please consider this, during the election, then Senator Obama published a statement at his website which said that his birth status was “governed” by the British Nationality Act of 1948. Can you please tell me and the American people how a natural born citizen of the United States can be governed – at birth – by British law? ”
I think Lou’s staffers don’t get the information to Lou in that I wrote basically the same thing to him last week !!!
Roland was so fired up! Not a man of words of conviction or agreeable spirit. He really is frighten that his man might not be legal. The bible says’ in the last days men will not put up with sound doctrine but to suit their own needs they will gather around them a great number of people to who say what their itching ears want them to hear. They can’t get past the fact he’s here illegally
Does anyone remember that lady that wrote the article about how the Natural Born Citizen clause in the Constitution should be abolished?
We need to send that article to Lou Dobbs!!!!!
If i remember correctly, she worked for Obama or one of the firms he was associated with.
@ The South // July 23, 2009 at 10:56 pm
http://slate.msn.com/id/2079204/
Good one South…it needs to come forward and let Lou read it.Also send article on Sgt. Harris untimely death.
digitaldust,
Thanks!!!!!!!
Now, everyone SLAM the hell out of Lou Dobbs inbox with this article 50 times a day, until he wakes up and makes the connection.
Natural Born Killer
also:
Amending the Natural Born Citizen Requirement Sarah p. Herlihy
http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/obama-covertly-working-to-amend-the-natural-born-citizen-requirement/
What about Alan Keyes on Lou Dobbs to
explain it?
This is Howard Cosell Reporting from the grave. We have a head to head match up between to heavy weights. Roland Martin a fired man with a passion for fake birth certificates and in this corner the honorable Dr Charles Manning who can take down the long legged mack daddy with his words. This will be the fight of the century
The South, I believe you’re looking for Sarah P. Herlihy. She wrote a law review article called “Amending the Natural Born Citizen Requirement: Globalization as the Impetus and the Obstacle”. She is/was is employed by Kirkland & Ellis, LLP, a law firm based in Chicago.
http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1131&posts=3
We should probably start a…
“Natural Born Killer Campaign”
Head your emails with that phrase.This will be something consistent coming thru his email, or whoever is checking them.
If they see 1500 emails a day coming thru, that are headed with “Natural Born Killer” and a body of the email that hammers home the point that Barack Obama Sr. was never a US Citizen, and that alone disqualifies Obama, they just might get the point, and change the topic of his shows from the birth certificate, to the NBC issue!
OT: Did anyone else hear this?
Think it was on Brett Baier on Fox…. Acorn
linked to illegal activities with Blago, Obama
(yes), and Sherrod Brown of Ohio –all three
of their campaigns.
Are we going to get more info on this? and when??
This feller, Cass Sunstein is Obuzz-csar!
Listen, to Liddy, carefully, listen to Mathews, at the end of the tape, Mathews says,” the issue will all play out in the next few weeks”.
The beginning of the end. Liddy, and Mathews, were educating the public, as to,what is about to come. The end, of the usurper, is near, the fraud, is coming apart, and the issue ,can no longer be ignored.
MS. Helga, please watch, the video of Mathews , and Liddy, again, and see if they don’t confirm the end is near, for Obama. Watch the video, and remember, Liddy used to work for the CIA, and probably, knows about what he speaks. He says “Obama is an illegal alien”. Listen carefully to Liddy, he speaks,pure facts, as he knows them to be.
Yes, i think we should post the link in the emails to Lou about Obamas friends working to Abolish the Natural Born Citizen Requirement!
Remember to head your emails with……..
********** “Natural Born Killer” ************
LOU is on the GO, encourage him.
Ask him to bring on Dr Polarik Forensic Documents Expert and Edwin Vieira, Phd foremost expert on Constitution.
EVERYONE, Call to Action.
Lou Dobbs needs our HELP to keep investigating to find the TRUTH about eligibility. E-mails need to be SENT NOW. THANKS.
Thanks it is important BOMBARD the BASTARDS LOL. Another idea if you also have an yahoo, hotmail, live and other e-mails besides your primary use each and everyone of those e-mails addresses to send another small note make them diff each time and diff times.
This is how the Paid Professional Protesters and ACORN and the Half-White Prez did it and keep doing it. They use all types of guerrilla tactics to increase the numbers. Fight fire with fire. Let’s make it an INFERNO.
Lou Dobbs needs our support help him HELP US by encouraging him and CNN to do the investigation for TRUTH.
E-mail: loudobbs@cnn.com
THANKS. Help TRUTH and GOD Prevail by helping Lou Dobbs expose the FRAUD’s tale.
Did you see Liddy, pass, on verifying the COLB, handed to him, by Mathews. That COLB, was printed, on some heavy paper, to make it appear real. Hey, Old Salt 77 , whats your take, on that piece of paper, Mathews, was passing around. How much longer is this circus going to last. I hope the rest of the world will assist us in every way, possible, to get rid of the usurper. Then we can start the F 22 raptor program up again , and cancel everything the Usurper has done to damage this country.
Bob @ 11:25,
I just went back to listen again. It sounded to me that Mathews seems confident that this issue will be put to rest. I would like to have seen Liddy with a little more “spunk” in his speak. When Mathews quoted off the certificate about date & time, Liddy asks ‘ what hospital?’ Mathews just says … It just says Hawaii . The other guy chimed in with “just like my BC” Bull$hit! Seriously, are we to believe that an official BC would not list the hospital’s name! Pleeze!!! That is a ridiculous comment.
I just don’t feel good about this. I think they’re up to something . What say you?
val, I think we are getting to the end. Liddy was talking facts. Liddy has Obama pinned as an illegal alien!
And on Dobbs, the guy from Texas, Congressman Poe. He kept referring to being a Native Born. What’s up with these guys. Do they not know it has to be a Natural Born?
I did like Liddy saying he thought the TOTUS was an illegal alien ! Does anyone here believe that Liddy knows more than he’s sharing? They keep driving home the birth announcement from the paper. Whoopee !
And Dobbs made sure to say that he thought the TOTUS was a citizen. But he needs to address the daddy problem.
Bob,
I hope you’re right! I just don’t feel good about it. We hear nothing for so long and now it’s starting everywhere. What about the document number on the certificate? Can any research be done on that or do you believe they have already forged the BC?
I really hope you’re right. But why hasn’t anyone mentioned Barry’s daddy? And the NATURAL BORN issue!!
And Bob, is Liddy always that mellow. I know he has more energy when he’s trying to sell gold! LOL! Please give me more hope to go on. I’m just not feeling it. I have been on this for well over a year and I find that we get excited only to be let down. I think I heard them mention the military lawsuits.
What say you?
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Patriot Dreamer // July 23, 2009 at 9:00 pm
ms. helga // July 23, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Patriot Dreamer // July 23, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Chris Matthews and G. Gordon Liddy on the NBC/birth certificate controversy:
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/07/msnbcs-chris-matthews-questions-g.html
TELL ME GORDON IS NOT DRUGED
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Yeah, G. Gordon’s not looking so well. How old is he now? 78?
Anyways, terrible job on presenting the case.
I wonder why all of the TV media attention all of a sudden after ignoring it for all these months. Is it because BO’s polls are down?
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PD—-They are afraid to have someone on there like Mario or Orly…..they would rip Matthews and the black guy to shreds….did you see how the black guy tries to make this about race now….that is exactly what the FRAUD told him to do!! In fact this misinformed moron said he spoke to the White House today!!! If we don’t get this out in the open and see his documents there will be hell to pay on both sides of this….and I mean possible blood in the streets!!!
We are making Progress don’t despair this is GROWING not going away. The ObaMORONS, The DENIERS, will continue believing what they already know BUT the word is being spread for thr Birthers/Truthers. Liddy was Controlled almost half asleep LOL but he made ok points.
Now we need to PUSH Natural Born Citizen is a special kind of citizen well above the qualifications of a lowly Senator.
Also push them to have EXPERTS on Like Dr Polarik Documents expert, Dr Edwin Vieira Phd the Constitutional Expert adn maybe Debbie Schlussel about the Selective Serviev Forgery.
Email this info to Lou Dobbs.
Thanks.
Rep Posey is a courageous man but a FARSE he doesn’t even know his issue about his bill, or was he playing Opossum?
Update please of RUSH on GRETA
Thanks
REV. Hero
Phil has a great story about a caller on Rush today. I heard it.It was sooooo good. Go read the transcripts.
Secret Service Agent Fired by Half-White Prez. I wonder if he caught the Half-White Prez and one of his man lover tossing salad or teabagging?
“A Secret Service Agent, responsible for protecting President Obama, was fired today under questionable reasons, according to top aides. The Agent was reportedly tired of overhearing personal gripes by the Obama Family about certain demograhics in the United States. The Agent, who has not been identified as of today, brought his concerns staright to the President Obama, who later had him fired”
WND needs to interview him and he maybe needs to join the Mr Walpin on a wrongful termination.
Magna Letter,
Thanks for the heads up. I heard parts of Rush today. Was that the man that talked for a long time and RUSH just listened he was Very good we need to Recruit him to talk in DC.
Magna Carta,
Please a link for Phil Berg’s article…I haven’t been there for awhile and everything is diff AGAIN and I can’t find anything.
Thanks.
SO Pete,
What’s you take on all this? I don’t know why, but I’m just not feeling good about it. Why all of a sudden they show a BC with a seal, a document #, etc…
Do you really believe this story will grow? I’m a little concerned only because of having hopes up in the past just to be let down.
You ??
If you haven’t seen it – World Net Daily has a new post up that mentions a Documentary about the eligibility issue.
Could this be why the story is starting to hit the MSM? They’re trying to prepare for this storm?
This is what I just sent out to the following media people!!!!
Mr. Dobbs, Hannity, O’Reilly, Greta, Rush….someone in the media….PLEASE…..Mr. Dobbs….I caught your segment tonight on the issue of Obama being a “natural born” citizen…..the birth certificate is just a side bar….he could be a citizen….but to be President you must be a “natural born” citizen…..there lies the difference!!! Below are your talking points with the RACIST man Roland Martin…..he and his kind are avoiding the issue and they are trying to make it about RACE instead of the illegal FRAUD we have sitting in our White House…..we Patriots could care less what color Obama’s skin is!!!! Please be Patriots and get the truth out in the open…..Martin is a Liar…..Have Gary Kreep, Mario Apuzzo or Dr. Taitz on your show if you want the TRUTH and all the facts these people have been investigating this crime for over a year now!! You are doing a disservice to the citizens of this country by putting out false information……..Mr. Roland Martin is biased and without a doubt a LIAR!!!! I bet you are not even aware of half of the facts listed below that are true and being withheld from the American people….study them and get someone knowledgeable on this issue to rebut these MORONS!!! I could do a better job!!!!
Jacqlyn K. Smith
Henderson, NV
The following information is from Gary Kreep….. Executive Director United States Justice Foundation
According to published reports, Barack Obama’s legal team has been paid over one million dollars, so far, to STOP anyone from seeing ANY of his actual identification documents, or many other documents:
Actual long-form birth certificate (NOT an easily-forged electronic copy of a short-form document that is not even officially accepted in Hawaii)
Passport files
University of Chicago Law School scholarly articles
Harvard Law Review articles
Harvard Law School records
Columbia University records
Columbia University senior thesis, “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament”
Occidental College records, including financial aid that he may have received
Punahou School records, where Mr. Obama attended from the fifth grade until he finished high school
Noelani Elementary School records, where Barack Obama attended kindergarten (according to the Hawaii Department of Education, students must submit a birth certificate to register — but parents may bring a passport or student visa if the child is from a foreign country)
Complete files and schedules of his years as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004
Obama’s client list from during his time in private practice with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard
Illinois State Bar Association records
Baptism records
Obama/Dunham marriage license
Obama/Dunham divorce documents
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
Soetero/Dunham Adoption records
By the way, the issue of the Occidental College records is especially pertinent. The United States Justice Foundation (USJF) served officials at Occidental College with a subpoena to produce records concerning Barack Obama’s attendance there during the 1980’s, because those records could document whether he was attending as a foreign national. You see, Mr. Obama attended the school on a scholarship — and there are questions as to whether the financial aid he received was reserved for foreign students. The Obama attorneys have bent over backward to block us. He doesn’t want anyone to see those records. He’s STILL trying to hide them; those financial records STILL have not been released.
WHAT is Barack Obama trying to hide? WHAT is he afraid of? WHY doesn’t he just release these documents to prove that he is a natural-born citizen and, therefore, qualified to serve as President — especially his actual birth certificate?
I dared bring Barack Obama into court to force him to produce his birth certificate, and put an end to the controversy over his status as a “natural born” citizen once and for all. And now he’s coming after me and the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) — the public-interest legal group that I founded over 30 years ago — with a vengeance!
Why? Because we dare to seek the TRUTH!
And they must have something to hide, because Mr. Obama’s attorneys have threatened to spend, and then sanction, USJF out of existence.
That’s why USJF has started efforts to convince State Attorneys General, all across the country, to investigate whether Barack Obama has committed perjury by knowingly filing false nomination papers… claiming to be constitutionally eligible to run for, and serve as, President of the United States. As you know, the available evidence shows that he was born in Africa.
Frankly, the evidence that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Africa — not Hawaii as he claims — and, therefore, cannot serve as the President of the United States, is compelling.
First, Mr. Obama’s refusal to release his birth certificate. If he has nothing to hide, what does he gain by refusing to allow the press to see the birth certificate?
Second, the contention by Barack Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, that Mr. Obama was born in a particular Hawaiian hospital, only to claim that it was in a different hospital several years later. And, most recently, Barack Hussein Obama has contradicted himself, in writing, regarding the name of the hospital where he claims to have been born.
Third, the erecting of a wall around Barack Obama’s grandmother, the late Madelyn Dunham, by Mr. Obama, thus cutting off access to the one person then alive who would have been present if he was actually born in Hawaii.
Fourth, the posting of law enforcement personnel at the two hospitals in Honolulu mentioned by Ms. Soetoro-Ng in an effort to block the press from discovering the truth about the birth certificate.
Fifth, a taped phone conversation with Mr. Obama’s step-grandmother in Kenya, who claims that she was present at his birth… in what is now called Kenya!
Sixth, the “birth certificate” posted on the Obama campaign website and other liberal websites. Since Barack Obama was born in 1961, long before laser printers and office computers, his original birth certificate would be typewritten … unlike the laser printed “copy” purported to be genuine.
The evidence demands that Barack Obama answer why he has been hiding the truth from the American people about his eligibility to run for, and serve as, President!
It’s TRUE. Not only does Mr. Obama continue to categorically refuse to produce the decisive evidence proving whether he is a “natural born” citizen, his high-priced LA-based “dream team” of attorneys has USJF squarely in its crosshairs! And they’re loading both barrels!
So, unless you help me and my team here at USJF to stand our ground in court, Mr. Obama’s hired guns could blow a financial hole in USJF’s ability to be the proverbial thorn in Mr. Obama’s side!
Barack Obama continues to battle any attempt to see his real birth certificate — producing only a phony one posted on his website — as well as fighting us tooth and nail as we seek access to his college records… records which we believe may prove that he was foreign born!
USJF served that subpoena upon Occidental College to gain access to Mr. Obama’s college records, and we are fighting to get at the truth on many other fronts, as well, including:
1. Appealing a case filed by USJF in California, all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if necessary, on behalf of 2008 Presidential candidate Alan Keyes, calling into question Mr. Obama’s status as a “natural born” citizen;
2. Funding and assisting local attorneys and Plaintiffs, in similar lawsuits, in Ohio, Hawaii, and Mississippi — AND we’ll soon be filing more lawsuits; and
3. We have initiated a campaign demanding that every State Attorney General in the country take action now to force Mr. Obama to just show us the TRUTH.
You see, when Barack Obama officially entered the office of President, he became, in essence, a “pretender to the throne.” According to the Constitution, only a “natural born citizen” can occupy the presidency.
Even though he was sworn in on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama is NOT legally the President of the United States, unless he can prove that he is a “natural born citizen.”
What’s more, every action taken by him while he occupies the White House may be invalid. If he cannot legally be President, every law passed by Congress will be null and void because the Constitution clearly requires that all laws be signed by the President… and, without a legally elected and sworn in President in office, that becomes an impossibility.
Quite frankly, this crisis must be ended! And it must be ended NOW!
And that’s just what we’re fighting to do. The United States Justice Foundation is spearheading a campaign to protect the United States Constitution… and your liberty.
Are you willing to see the Constitution shredded by the Left? Will you sit back and do nothing while a foreign-born person may be illegally occupying the White House as President of the United States?
We will not be intimidated.
Our country is on the fast track to disaster…but you can help us keep the situation from getting worse. I pray that I’ll hear from you today.
P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen… IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!
Please everyone…..pound the media with the truth and the correct talking points….the left is afraid we are going to get the truth out in the open….is starting but too many of these media morons like Matthews are still misleading the public!!!
Jacqlyn Smith,
WOW!!
Great job!
Thank you!
Jaclyn Great JOB but we have to keep these e-mails short and concise.
I think we need to push them to have on Apuzzo, Donofrio, Orly, etc. and Dr. Polarik and Edwin Vieira, Phd. Ideally Polarik, Edwin and Apuzzo.
TO VAL,
They are trying to quash this with “he released teh brith certificate, he is a citizen SHUT UP, BUT its is backfiring. Libby should have said Are you ready to have a Documents expert like Dr Polarick to examine that ALLEGED COPY?
Keep the pressue on they opened a can of WORMS. Now people will be Googling the issue and will be horrified to see what has been going on that the media has been hididng. Mathews got that COLB from the Half-White Prez in an effort to shut us up but it is ONLY OPENING IT UP.
Any news on the Harvard Classmate Issue?
BTW, very important.
That copy of an alleged COLB that Mathews has Means Nothing it doesn’t show the MOST IMPORTANT THING the Signature of the Official and requested so it can be checked in teh records back in Hawaii if the sent out an official copy on that day.
That document and the JPG online without the SIGNATURE showing means nothing….only the original will do it has to have the signature of teh official and after that get Dr Polarik to examine it Than Mathews can claim he has a COLB. Of course this is only a MNOR side issue to verify if there was FRAUD and FORGERY because the real issue is the NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and his statment that his Birth was Governed By British Act, than Kenyan then REVERTED back to British Act. We have a Half White Prez that is GOVERNED by the QUEEN of England which is EXACTLY what the FOUNDERS were Prohibiting with the Article II Clause.
By his own ADMISSION Obama is a FRAUD that is why they removed Fight The Smears which you can see a screen shot here look at the statment at the bottom and read carefully.
Obama NEVER EVER said he was Natural Born he has said he is a citizen, he was born inHawaii and he is a Native born citizen. In a recording that was online but since has been removed Alan Keyes challenged him on it and he said that he was running for the Senate and didn’t need to be Natural Born Citizen.
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:e8a9IzE5fSsJ:fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate+site:fightthesmears.com+fight+the+smears&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
I haven’t heard anything on the Classmate issue…but everyone pound the media with the correct talking points….insist on the “natural born” citizen issue….not just the BC!!!! Keep it up Patriots…..we will win this fight!!!
Jacqlyn & everyone else THANKS and GOD BLESS.
Keep BOMBARDING the Mailboxes. This is DUE or DIE right now…hammer while the iron is hot, it is getting HOTTER.
Please e-mail Lou Dobbs again and again and again…if you have never sent an e-mail this is the TIME. It is easy click on link below and just drop a note of Encouragement and ask fro more.
loudobbs@cnn.com
Thanks all and Goodnight.
The South………………………………..
There is a problem right off the line with the document shown. It is ROUND CORNERED. So far as I know NO Hawaii COLBS were ever round cornered in 1961.Chris Mathews is an OBOT ROBOT MORON, and incapable of rational thought. You will notice that he held up a Certification of Live Birth, and called it a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. He is a MORON……bottom line! I would liked to have seen Liddy more agressive. He appearred to be”stoned” I have a gut feeling that there was a deal between Liddy, and Mathews all of which was CHOREOGRAPHED by the producer long before the show started. Something like we will give you X dollars if you will come on our show. We want the show to have a credible witness, to make Mathews more believeable. All you have to do is sit there and Mathews will give you your response cues. What all of this appears to be is just another raft of OBOT ROBOT BULLSH##. I would rather have seen Micheal Savage talking to Mathews. If Mathews tried to talk to Savage the way he talked to Liddy, it is probable that Savage would have COLDCOCKED Mathews right where he stood!
Sun Yat-sen was born on 12 November 1866 to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county, Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau). The latter claim is likely to be correct, as the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was issued based on Sun’s typewritten testimony, rather than on any documentation from witnesses.
Sun enrolled in Oahu College (now Punahou School) for further studies for one semester, from which he graduated.[3] He was soon sent home to China as his brother was becoming afraid that Sun Yat-sen was about to embrace Christianity, but he returned to Hawaii at least twice, in 1900 and 1901.[4] In 1904 his alleged birth in Hawaii was certified. He applied for naturalization and became a citizen of the United States and was issued an American passport.[citation needed] It is unclear whether or not he continued to claim his status as a subject of the Ta Tsing empire, or whether he renounced his citizenship before death
http://aconservativeedge.com/2009/06/12/birth-certificate-controversy-over-hawaii-announces-they-have-on-file-valid-hawaiian-birth-certificate-for/
I do not believe that Liddy was invited to Mathews show to represent valid issues regarding the POTUS. Liddy was there, and was probably PAID to act, and talk like a nitwit. He is a GOOD actor. His efforts seem to have been designed to lend credibility to Chris Mathews show. This amounts to a SELLOUT of Conservatives everywhere.
Evertbody……….remember no matter how the OBOT MORON ROBOTS try to twist facts, and try to make everybody believe that up is down, they CANNOT make a LIE into the TRUTH no matter what they do. Never lose sight of this fact.
TYPO “Evertbody”== EVERYBODY
(Fickle FINGER,of fate!)
Major Point.BHO was adopted and became an Indonesian.Many think he went to college as a foreign student.Is this why they have pd around a million dollars to cover up??
Also http://www.larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com
More secrets ??? deception???
OT, but “Which ‘ism’ on display at Harvard arrest?” by Alan Keyes, PhD:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104813
World Net Daily has a documentary coming out soon called A “Question of Eligibility”. Check out the trailer:
That woman is as evil as BO. I hope that he will be removed very soon. This is getting to be ridiculous. He gets all these bad guys like himself to make it worse for the people. Our country is turning into old nazi Germany by a usurper from another country. The constitution was created for our freedom. If these people don’t like our freedom, then they could go live in a communist country.
OldSalt and Everyone else,
First f all GOOD MORNING,
Mathews et al use Keyords and phrases on purpose this is a well rehearsed effort to keep the PONZI PREZ SCHEME and FRAUD intact. When they heard this come up during election they put out the JPG selling it for a Document which it was NOT it was just a JPG if an alleged COLB. When we didn’t Buy the Lie. They started the website fight the smears to point us back and forth between that and factcheck which is an Opionion website with no Independent Oversight or ANY WAY to Refute or Raise objections. This site has more credibility than EITHER one of those here we allow opposing views.
Then there was the Obama YouTube channels and videos that were FRAUDULENT JOKES Biased and CENSORED big time. I was banned from ever posting there the first time I went there and asked for his True identity. YouTube was manipulating Voting, Views and Searches by hiding anythign anti- Obama. Google the same.
Paid Bloggers and Professional Protests we recruited (I was recruited until they saw I was a constitutionalist) to go and spread the “word: al over the internet working i bunches and coordianted and attacking any question raised and almost all the time interjecting something about Bush or sometimes SENILE McCain.
This worked to get a FRAUDULENT “win” for Half-White Prez…..BUT the true has a way of having believer that STAND UP FOR TRUTH and will NEVER go away.
We Birthers/Teabbagger/Truthers or any name you want to call us are STILL STANDING, stronger and louder than ever. This is why FINALLY they had to talk about it, because it has been building and they are afraid the Truther Tornado is about to blow their door of Deception wide open. Except for Dobbs the other clowns are trying to defuse this Tornado but it aint working. Now we can use it against them by saying Matheews thought it important enough to talk about it NOW WE NEED TO BRING in the experts, subpoenas, records EVERYTHING to get to the TRUTH once and for all.
The most damning thing is his Statment in Fight the Smears that his birth eas Governed By British Act because his daddy was a British Subject. There is no way from there to Natural Born Citizen unless he Died adn Ressurected with a diff birth scenario and Only Jesus Ressurected and went to a diff father. ObaMOSES can’t do it.
By law, a British subject that as a minor becomes a citizen of a former colony, if when he turns an adult doesn’t reaffirm his citizenship, he reverts back to being what he was before a British Subject governed by the Queen of England. How does someone GOVERNED by the Queen at Birth and in adulthood become a Natural Born Citizen qualified to be President? IMPOSSIBLE except by Miracle of God, Constitutional Ammendment or FORGERY and FRAUD.
We Constitutionalist will NEVER ALLOW a Presidency by Fraud and Forgery!
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NEW THREAD STARTED
PF @ 10:44: okay, I will move on, but first I want to be ‘on topic’ here…though not yet having read the previous 70-something comments…I want to reply to the post that began with these words:
“Why should we be governed by people long dead? …
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When I thought about this opening statement, I realized I really didn’t (though I did) need to read any further. For every thing following would only lead to, or be about, failure.
These are the words that read like the opening of a suicide note. Someone who has eliminated the word ‘legacy’ from their vocabulary and thought-process, as they clearly hold in contempt the blood, sweat, and tears of those who’ve been before them; refusing to honor and acknowledge the ones who gave all to pave the way for a better situation for those who would come after them. Someone who places no value in what others have done selflessly for fututre generations have, essentially, signed their own death certificate.
No wonder their forecast is so bleak, and without even a remote consideration for what ‘legacy’ they plan to leave…obviously: none.
The people this writer presumes are ‘long dead’ are actually quite alive in the legacy they left; and they will forever be alive and well in the conscience and minds of people who embrace their inalienable right, given by God, (with reverence for Him first) to pursue life, liberty, and ‘happiness’.
“Where there is no vision, the people perish”.
I have to say after listening Mathpews on this issue he would not let liddy talk. They know the issue that a Birth Certificate has the state in which you were born in along with a hospital. It goes to show how people can be bought off especially the Drive By Media. They do not realize that they also will be taken down along with the rest of the United States. Axxx Kissers will not see the truth. It is a shame to see what is taking place right in front of us and not one Judge or Elected Official will stand up and say NOT OUR COUNTRY!! They are in bed with the enemy and again History will repeat itself.
So, RFK was iced by Sirhan Sirhan aye? The shot that killed RFK passed through his right mastoid process. This shot could only come from behind. Now, guess where Sirhan Sirhan was! i’m betting you don’t know so here’s a hint………..
(in front!)
Gordon Liddy is an expert at nothing. To stupid not to get caught. Obama’s birth certificate looks just like mine in terms of data. Liddy is a lump of crap from the past. You know there is data out that G. Gordon Liddy is GAY!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT.