Obama jobs economy speech lies, Job creation, Health care costs, Deficit, Truth is record labor force participation food stamps deficit part time job creation, Increasing health care costs

Obama jobs economy speech lies, Job creation, Health care costs, Deficit, Truth is record labor force participation food stamps deficit part time job creation, Increasing health care costs

“11.4%: What the U.S. unemployment rate would be if labor force participation were back to January 2008 levels.” …James Pethokoukis, American Enterprise Institute, June 2013

“Over the last six months, of the net job creation, 97 percent of that is part-time work,”…Keith Hall, former BLS chief

“Nearly half of U.S. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the ACA. One in five firms indicates they are likely to hire fewer employees, and another one in 10 may lay off current employees in response to the law.

Other firms will shift toward part-time workers. More than 40 percent of CFOs say their companies will consider switching some jobs to less than 30 hours per week or targeting part-time workers for future employment.”…Duke University Fuqua School of Business December 11, 2013

How do you know when Obama is lying?

When his lips are moving.

From a speech Obama gave on January 7, 2014.

“You know, a few weeks ago I said that 2014 could be a breakthrough year for America. Think about it. Five years ago this month, our economy was shedding 800,000 jobs, just in one month. But as Americans buckled down and worked hard and sacrificed, we began to come back. And our businesses have created more than 8 million new jobs since we hit the bottom. Our auto industry’s gone from bust to boom. Manufacturing’s rebounding. The housing market’s rebounding. Stock markets are restoring retirement accounts. The promise of energy independence is actually in sight. Health care costs eat up less of our economy. Over the past four years, costs have grown at the slowest rate on record. And since I’ve took office, we’ve cut our deficits by more than half.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-president-obamas-jan-7-remarks-on-unemployment/2014/01/07/79c65704-77bc-11e3-b1c5-739e63e9c9a7_story.html

Now for the truth.

28,223,000 Americans were on food stamps when Obama took office.

At the end of 2013 there were 47,636,000 Americans on food stamps.

When Obama took office in January 2009 vs December 2013.

Labor Force Participation Rate then 65.7   now  62.8

Employment-Population Ratio then  60.6   now  58.6

Not in Labor Force then  80,529,000 now  91,808,000
Not in Labor Force want a job now then  5,708,000 now 6,111,000
Could only find part time work then 1,671,000 now 2,586,000
From the Independent Journal Review.
“The Poverty President: How Obama’s Economic Policies are a Disaster”
“Since the moment he came into office, President Obama has pursued the same failed liberal policies that extended the Great Depression, instituted the socially corrosive Great Society programs, and has grown government beyond America’s ability to afford it. Estimates of the U.S. long-term unfunded liabilities range from $87 trillion to an astounding $211 trillion.
One of the first measures Obama undertook was passing an ultimately $812 billion “stimulus” program. After glibly admitting that ‘shovel-ready (jobs) was not as shovel-ready as we expected,’ the U.S. is still far off the jobs trajectory projected by his advisers; while it was presumed the U.S. would be near 5% unemployment, we are at 7.3% — and that’s with millions dropping out of the workforce.
Instead of focusing on generating jobs and growing the productive economy, President Obama decided to work with the Democrat Congress to force through a trillion-dollar boondoggle known as ObamaCare against the objections of the majority of Americans.
President Obama said in an ABC News interview in 2009 that if Congress did not pass health care legislation that brought down costs, the federal government “will go bankrupt.” The ten-year cost estimate since then has tripled from $900 billion to nearly $2.7 trillion, and the GAO estimates the program will add $6.2 trillion in debt liability.
The “unintended consequences” of the ObamaCare provision that employers with 50 or more full-time employees at 30 hours a week or more must offer certain health insurance plans has predictably led to small businesses with more part-time employees. While the president has illegally suspended his enforcement of duly passed law, the “employer mandate” provision, full-time hiring is not expected to pick up due to long-term uncertainty.
Nearly 2.5 million of the ‘jobs created’ under President Obama are part-time; as a separate figure, 2.7 million of those ‘jobs created’ are temporary hires — a 50% increase over Obama’s time in office.
The president claims he has created 7.2 million jobs. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there were 154,526,000 in the Civilian Labor Force in February 2009 and in June 2013 there were 155,835,000. That would be a net gain of 1.309 million more people working civilian jobs as of the latest figures. The labor force participation rate of 63.5% is hovering at the lowest levels since late 1978.
Even if we took this at face value, like a good Democrat loyalist would, this is still less than half the people added to the food stamp rolls — 15 million folks. The escalating gas, electricity, and food prices, as well as the ObamaCare “sticker shock” on health insurance premiums for an estimated 75% of Americans will not ease their budgets. And the AP now estimates that 4 in 5 Americans are in poverty, low-income, or have no jobs.”

Read more:

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/69124-the-poverty-president-how-obamas-economic-policies-are-a-disaster/

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68 responses to “Obama jobs economy speech lies, Job creation, Health care costs, Deficit, Truth is record labor force participation food stamps deficit part time job creation, Increasing health care costs

  1. Good morning all.

  2. “Obama’s State of the Union Speech Will Be All Lies”

    “On January 28, the President of the United States will stand before a joint session of Congress and lie to them and to all Americans.

    The mainstream media will treat it as a serious presentation and make no mention of the lies.”

    “The “low information” Americans will take Barack Obama at his word. Nearly half of all Americans who might listen to the speech or read about it are on some form of government dole or entitlement program. They are interested in food stamps, unemployment compensation, their disability status, and an older generation will understandably want to ensure their Social Security checks keep coming and Medicare will continue to underwrite their medical costs.”

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/60617

  3. After a long absence HillBuzz is back. – – –

    Update on Kevin, HillBuzz
    Posted on January 9, 2014 by Robert James
    http://hillbuzz.org/update-on-kevin-hillbuzz-67252

    http://hillbuzz.org/

  4. This is OT but this sign was recently posted in Nazareth.

  5. How could this possibly happen?

    At 40Seconds into this video, filmed and shown by a local television station in New York City about the second strike on the Twin Towers on 911….it clearly shows, and the announcer clearly announces, that the plane went RIGHT THROUGH THE BUILDING AND EMERGED ON THE OTHER SIDE INTACT….how could this possibly have happened?

    The nose cone of the plane is shown, unscathed, clearly as it emerges from the other side of the building AFTER IT HAS GONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING…..

    Now, I don’t know how anyone else feels about this, but to me…. this is IMPOSSIBLE…the building was made of REINFORCED, very thick, steel beams that would have demolish the plane upon initial contact with the building…..

    Can anyone explain how the soft shell nose cone of this plane could have possibly survived the initial impact, then penetrate through all of the reinforced steel of that building, and then emerged on the other side of the building intact?……I am open to suggestions.

    Is this again some photo shopping, as some have suggested with some of the other videos I have posted…if so, the photo shopping it was done by the LOCAL television, associated with ABC, a station who supposedly was filming this in REAL TIME…..

    Pictures don’t lie….but people do.

  6. I apologize….WNYW, Channel 5, New York City is a FOX station…..

  7. Heard on Rush:

    “Wall Street adviser: Actual unemployment is 37.2%, ‘misery index’ worst in 40 years”

    “Don’t believe the happy talk coming out of the White House, Federal Reserve and Treasury Department when it comes to the real unemployment rate and the true “Misery Index.” Because, according to an influential Wall Street advisor, the figures are a fraud.

    In a memo to clients provided to Secrets, David John Marotta calculates the actual unemployment rate of those not working at a sky-high 37.2 percent, not the 6.7 percent advertised by the Fed, and the Misery Index at over 14, not the 8 claimed by the government.

    Marotta, who recently advised those worried about an imploding economy to get a gun, said that the government isn’t being honest in how it calculates those out of the workforce or inflation, the two numbers used to get the Misery Index figure.

    “The unemployment rate only describes people who are currently working or looking for work,” he said. That leaves out a ton more.

    “Unemployment in its truest definition, meaning the portion of people who do not have any job, is 37.2 percent. This number obviously includes some people who are not or never plan to seek employment. But it does describe how many people are not able to, do not want to or cannot find a way to work. Policies that remove the barriers to employment, thus decreasing this number, are obviously beneficial,” he and colleague Megan Russell in their new investors note from their offices in Charlottesville, Va.”

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/wall-street-advisor-actual-unemployment-is-37.2-misery-index-worst-in-40-years/article/2542604

  8. RMINNC……….
    Good Morning sir!
    I would tend to agree with you regarding the nose cone of the aircraft. it houses certain avaionic devices including radar. While on the 767s as well as all the other Boeing aircraft the nose cone is quite strong, but it would NEVER pass through two steel reinforced walls INTACT. This simply goes to show the level to which certain people are willing to carry their RAVING to which even includes PHONY articulation, in the hope of making reasonable people believe UP is DOWN..This sort of BS is typical of LUNATIC leftists.. Now you know exactly what sort of people are supporting the BASTARD. MORE BASTARDS!

  9. I am praying that the ex governor of WV is able to shove ALL of the PROSECUTION’S case right back down his throat. While there might be a case for misuse of election funds, I seriously doubt that it is even anything at all. This is to me some more of Mssssssss.Wasserman’s BULLSHI# and attempt to take another Republican governor down. They failed miserably with Walker,and they failed with Christie. How many failures does it take for such a stupid a$$ to get the message. Mssssss.Wasserman only confirms her VILE NATURE everytime she opens her mouth.

  10. CW……..
    Most reasonable people KNOW that to make a lie look like the truth requires an even bigger lie. As each lie is told the next one mathematically necessitates an EXPONENT value. Soon you must tell three more lies to make a prior lie look like the truth…..soon it all becomes (lie to the 10th power) ha ha

  11. Oldsailor81….

    I also forgot to mention that it took less than 1 second, let me repeat that…..1 SECOND,…. for that plane to penetrate and emerge through the other side of the building……time it if you can…..That building must have been at least 75 to 100 yards across from outer wall to outer wall…..

    I would consider that is also an IMPOSSIBILITY……now remember this is all suppose to be presented to the public on LIVE television……

    Some people may be buying this crap…but not me….I think I’m just a little more intelligent than that.

  12. I heard on the news this morning that two companies are closing up shop in New York,because they do not wish to operate their companies in a place where they are not welcome as conservatives. Thank you Mr. Cuomo…..now you will have about 400 more people to explain your BULLSHI# to.

  13. Now the Soetoro NUT CASE is threatening a FOX news contributor. She is an associate of Gretta Van Susteren. Typically the YELLOW DEMOCRATS try to coerce somebody by threatening a friend of that person. I personally believe that she had ALL of her information correct, and she was born out by the recent finding of the oversight investigation of the Benghazzi BUNGLE.

  14. LOOK WHO’S MUCHEEELE’S ROLE MODEL !!!

    First Lady Michelle Obama says Jane Fonda is one of her role models, and that she admires her political savviness.

    During an interview with People Magazine, Obama listed “Hanoi Jane” as one of the people she would like to look and live like when she’s “70 or 80” years old.

    “There’s Jane Fonda, a beautiful, engaged, politically savvy, sharp woman,” Obama said.

    The comment is likely to enrage Vietnam War veterans who still remember how Fonda, now 76, went to North Vietnam in 1972 and was photographed sitting on an anti-aircraft battery. Fonda denounced U.S. military leaders as “war criminals” and later called tortured American POWs “hypocrites and liars,” telling them to “get a life.”
    ———————————————————————————————
    You bet the first lady’s comment has enraged th Vietnam Veterans…if “Hanoi Jane” is the best role model she can come up with…her admiration for Jane tells me that the first lady approved of Hanoi Jane’s conduct in 1972……you don’t have to be a mind reader to understand the mindset and character of our president and his wife.

    In fact, every veteran of every war should be outraged, and I’m sure they are.

    It’s too bad that “Hanoi Jane” didn’t visit South Vietnam during her trip to Vietnam…I’m sure the American soldier’s fighting and dying there would have introduced her to the real world……

    My next post will be a transcript copy of the ACTUAL Radio Broadcast she made to the people of North Vietnam on 12 August 1972 at 7:11pm, their time…..at this time, Americans’ were fighting and dying in the war in Vietnam…..if her actions didn’t rise to the level of TRAITOR…then the word should be stricken from our language.

    Read closely what she said…then tell me if her words and actions in North Vietnam praising the efforts of our enemy constituted TREASON….I would be interested in other peoples opinion on this. I know how I feel about the subject.
    ———————————————————————————————–

  15. Thanks Jonah @ 10:49. I miss Kevin at Hillbuzz. I quit going there cause the whole site stopped. He and his site really did a good job during Benghazi during the week of 9/11/12.

  16. In her blog on July 11, 2011,, Fonda said:

    “Bottom line, this has gone on far too long (about her actions in Vietnam), this spreading of lies about me! None of it is true. NONE OF IT! I love my country. I have never done anything to hurt my country or the men and women who have fought and continue to fight for us.”

    Really Jane, really? Perhaps you think that enough time has passed, or maybe you think that people should just get over it, or maybe you are trying to re-write the insufferable truth of your treason. Well let me set the record straight. “Hanoi Jane Fonda” is a treasonous Left-Wing Bitch and I will not stand by while history is re-written. Not on my watch.

    You really wanna go there Jane you insufferable witch? OK, your call. Read on.

    Firstly Here is the Transcript in full of Hanoi Jane’s broadcast speech. The following was submitted in the U.S. Congress House Committee on Internal Security, Travel to Hostile Areas. [HR16742, 19-25 September 1972, page 761]
    .
    ~ BROADCAST ~

    This is Jane Fonda. During my two-week visit in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, I’ve had the opportunity to visit a great many places and speak to a large number of people from all walks of life- workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the women’s union, writers.

    I visited the (Dam Xuac) agricultural coop, where the silk worms are also raised and thread is made. I visited a textile factory, a kindergarten in Hanoi. The beautiful Temple of Literature was where I saw traditional dances and heard songs of resistance. I also saw unforgettable ballet about the guerrillas training bees in the south to attack enemy soldiers. The bees were danced by women, and they did their job well.

    In the shadow of the Temple of Literature I saw Vietnamese actors and actresses perform the second act of Arthur Miller’s play All My Sons, and this was very moving to me- the fact that artists here are translating and performing American plays while US imperialists are bombing their country.

    I cherish the memory of the blushing militia girls on the roof of their factory, encouraging one of their sisters as she sang a song praising the blue sky of Vietnam- these women, who are so gentle and poetic, whose voices are so beautiful, but who, when American planes are bombing their city, become such good fighters.

    I cherish the way a farmer evacuated from Hanoi, without hesitation, offered me, an American, their best individual bomb shelter while US bombs fell near by. The daughter and I, in fact, shared the shelter wrapped in each others arms, cheek against cheek. It was on the road back from Nam Dinh, where I had witnessed the systematic destruction of civilian targets- schools, hospitals, pagodas, the factories, houses, and the dike system.

    As I left the United States two weeks ago, Nixon was again telling the American people that he was winding down the war, but in the rubble- strewn streets of Nam Dinh, his words echoed with sinister (words indistinct) of a true killer. And like the young Vietnamese woman I held in my arms clinging to me tightly- and I pressed my cheek against hers- I thought, this is a war against Vietnam perhaps, but the tragedy is America’s.

    One thing that I have learned beyond a shadow of a doubt since I’ve been in this country is that Nixon will never be able to break the spirit of these people; he’ll never be able to turn Vietnam, north and south, into a neo- colony of the United States by bombing, by invading, by attacking in any way. One has only to go into the countryside and listen to the peasants describe the lives they led before the revolution to understand why every bomb that is dropped only strengthens their determination to resist. I’ve spoken to many peasants who talked about the days when their parents had to sell themselves to landlords as virtually slaves, when there were very few schools and much illiteracy, inadequate medical care, when they were not masters of their own lives.

    But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created- being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools- the children learning, literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives.

    And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders- and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism- I don’t think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh. – Jane Fonda
    _________________________________________________________
    Now I ask you…are these the words of a patriotic woman….or the words of a traitor?

  17. Any one seen this yet?
    Believe it or not, the reason may be linked to one
    Loretta Fuddy

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/01/blockbuster-csu-criminology-professor.html

  18. Good read Ginger….thanks

    but we still don’t know what “Soebarckah” means on Stanley’s passport…..

  19. RMinNC,

    Yesterday you stated that you were going to answer my comment, and that you would have questions for me.

    Well, if this is one then I have an answer for you:

    “How could this possibly happen?”

    Fairly simple answer:

    It’s not the nose of the plane that you see.

    How’s that RMinNC?

    Then you go on:

    “At 40Seconds into this video…………….it clearly shows, and the announcer clearly announces, that the plane went RIGHT THROUGH THE BUILDING AND EMERGED ON THE OTHER SIDE INTACT”

    You state it “clearly shows”……….well the FACT is that it isn’t CLEAR, as a matter of FACT, it’s kind of fuzzy, and you can’t tell what it is that is blowing out the other side of that building, just making an assumption, but maybe it’s debris from the aricraft that didn’t get caught up in the beams that supported the center of the buliding.

    No way in heck does this “clearly shows”……….again, you simply want us to blindly believe what you are stating as fact, when it’s not.

    As far as the announcer goes, it sure does LOOK LIKE the nose had gone completely through the building, but as you state as a reasonable, logical person, it’s pretty unfathomable that a plane could have flown through that building and the nose came out the other side.

    Another possibility is that the announcer was mistaken, like the announcer was mistaken about building 7 collapsing before it actually did. These people were “winging” it you know, being fed lots of information, some accurate, some not.

    I suggest that this was one of those instances where the announcer was simply mistaken.

    Besides, where’s the rest of the plane coming through the other side?

    Where’s the debris go from this “intact” nose cone?

    HUUUUUUUUUH?

    You then ask:

    “how could this possibly have happened?”

    I would suggest that it DIDN’T happen, Maybe it’s an illusion caused by the impact, or maybe as I suggested above, it’s other parts of the plane that didn’t get caught up in the beams.

    RMinNC continues:

    “The nose cone of the plane is shown, unscathed, clearly as it emerges from the other side of the building AFTER IT HAS GONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING…..”

    No it doesn’t, it’s as simple as that. “unscathed”…………………roflmao.

    The video is NOT “clear” RMinNC. I will agree that it sure LOOKS LIKE a nose cone of a plane. However, I would suggest for YOU to go back ONE second, to the 39 second mark, BEFORE the plane strikes the building, and look at what the cone of the plane looks like.

    It looks NOTHING like what you claim is the nose cone of the plane.

    But yet we KNOW that it was the nose of the plane. I’m thinking you are seeing what you want to see.

    RMinNC goes on:

    “Now, I don’t know how anyone else feels about this, but to me…. this is IMPOSSIBLE…the building was made of REINFORCED, very thick, steel beams that would have demolish the plane upon initial contact with the building…..”

    You are making my point. It wasn’t the nose cone of the plane, it just so happens that from this camera angle, it LOOKS LIKE something that appears to be the shape of an airplane nose cone came through the opposite side of the building where the plane entered it.

    Maybe, just maybe the shape was caused by the shape of the object that impacted the building. Maybe it was just the windows, or steel around the windows, or office furniture, but I can rest with the utmost confidence that that is NOT the nose cone of the plane that impacted the tower.

    Besides, where’d it go after it came through? There’s no video of the cone falling to the ground, so where’d it go?

    RMinNC then asks:

    “Can anyone explain how the soft shell nose cone of this plane could have possibly survived the initial impact, then penetrate through all of the reinforced steel of that building, and then emerged on the other side of the building intact?”

    I can………….

    It didn’t. The video you are believing is the nose cone coming through “unscathed”, ISN’T the nose cone coming through “unscathed”.

    I would bet that the nose cone ended up in millions of pieces, some of which still to this day have not been found.

    But even at that, I still don’t get the point? What’s the point of this video? (now I’ve got to go watch the rest of the video to try and figure out what it’s point is).

    Ok, RMinNC, at the 5:46 of the video you posted, (which appears to show many different angles of the second plane impacting the tower), I believe this angle shows the explosion on the opposite side of impact, and it shows lots of debris, and at the very start of the explosion, and from this angle, and every other angle in the video YOU posted, does it show the “unscathed” nose cone coming out of the building?

    This appears to be from the other side of the building from the footage you claim shows the “unscathed” nose cone of the plane.

    Also at the 6:11 mark, it shows another view from about the same angle as the 5:46 footage. Slow it down and watch frame by frame.

    It’s NOT the nose cone RMinNC.

    Let me also state this, in many of the videos posted by RMinNC, it appears that something faily large leaves the building and then catches fire when the fireball catches up to it, and then appears to fall toward the ground on fire.

    I will also state that in most of the videos it appears that a small “hump” is the start of the explosion on the opposite side of the impact.

    But I can state with confidence that it is NOT the “unscathed” nose cone of the plane.

    But, I hope you all notice that I am addressing RMinNC’s questions, and he is “disregarding” my one simple question, which by the way, he stated he would answer today.

    I guess he is admitting that those planes were the ones with the passengers on them, because he’s showing video of the plane from many different angles.

    My understanding is that there is only one video that shows the impact of the first plane.

  20. RMinNC–Jane Fonda should have been tried for treason and spent a long time in prison. And Kerry should have been tried for his lying slander against the troops. Yet he ran for the Presidency. Things are really backwards.

    Ginger: I think that same information is covered in a lead article at AMERICAN THINKER. It appears that Fuddy and Stanley Ann belonged to the same religious cult started by an Indonesian Muslim. It is called Subud. That is really weird.

  21. Dean…I agree with you on both counts……

  22. For what it may be worth–I remember watching events on TV on 9/11/01. I was living in Texas at the time. I have a lot of Texas friends, one who had entertained George W. Bush and Laura at his home when he was governor of Texas. My Texas friends who know President Bush vouch for his character. He is a Christian man who serves his God, regardless of his personal shortcomings. He is not the kind of man who would be part of conspiracy to kill thousands of innocent people in the Trade Center and try to attack the Pentagon. This is truly a misguided conspiracy theory, in my view, to think what the so-called “truthers” are trying to promote. They usually hate Bush or Texas or both. This idea was started by the Far Left and picked up by some Far Right as well. RMinNC, I appreciate you are trying to question all things, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree on this one. From what I know of President Bush, this is a terrible slander.

  23. Republican: Obama should be hanged
    ‘Execution is the appropriate punishment for traitors’

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/republican-forget-impeachment-hang-obama/#Ed0WETg3XBXs4W2E.99

  24. Building 7 at the World Trade Center WAS NOT hit by a plane, and only had MINOR fire damage. yet at a little after 5 in the afternoon, the order to “pull it” was given…..this order was verbally confirmed (and that’s on video) by Larry Silverstein, the owner/lessee of the World Trade complex…..

    According to the government version, the building fell because of fire damage….yet Silverstein said the order was given to “pull it” ……

    It takes WEEKS to coordinate and place explosive in order to “pull” a building, yet we are suppose to believe that charges could have been placed in that building in a matter of a few hours…..

    “Pull it” is a term used by demolition experts to destroy a building with “prepositioned high explosives”…my question for today is;

    If explosives were NOT used to “pull” building 7, what caused it to fall straight down in a matter of seconds in a perfect foot print?

    If Building 7 was “Pulled” as Silverstein said on national television, that means the high explosives to destroy that 47 story skyscraper steel building HAD TO HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE long before the events of September 11th……that point CANNOT be disputed.

    But I’m sure some who post on here will argue it can.

    If any part of the government’s story about the events of 911 are untrue, then serious doubt is cast on all events of that day……

    As for a certain individual’s question,

    “What happened to the people on the 3 airplanes on 911?”…..I do not know what happened to those people…and neither does he,… or anyone else. I’m sure passports, drivers license, and other items and documents could be produced as proof positive…but then everyone can believe whatever they wish…..

    As for the last video I posted, would someone explain how that plane could have penetrated completely through Twin Tower building 2 in less than a second?…..I am open for suggestions.

    Finally I have been told that it’s “not the nose cone, RMinNC”…But, I can state with confidence it is NOT the nose cone”…..OK, what is it then?

  25. RM,
    For over twelve years now there have been any number of variations of the conspiracy theory re. 9/11. In the past I have read many of rebuttal articles by experts in various scientific fields and simply do not believe what “truthers” are trying to keep promoting. Videos can be doctored, and there are so many discrepancies even among truthers.

    Here is my point. You are a very patriotic American who has served his country faithfully for many years. We all applaud that! Furthermore, you are in the vanguard when it comes to pointing out the flaws in our government. That is commendable, too.

    What you and IB want to discuss here is your business, and I don’t want to interfere with that; however, there comes a point where we reach overload, simply because this is such a divisive subject.

    Truthfully, let me gently ask this question: Don’t you feel that this provocative subject, which is so polarizing, has reached the point of overload? If so, then it becomes counterproductive to the blog as a whole. Just my 2 cents worth, and no offense intended, fellow patriot!

  26. RM,
    P.S. I hope you take this in the same spirit which I felt when it was written.

  27. DEAN….

    I never said that Bush was part of any conspiracy…never….I too liked Bush.

    but it is entirely possible that a conspiracy existed without him knowing of it, seems like Dick Chaney was in charge of things that day…….there are too many inconsistencies in the 911 story that have not been answered to the people’s satisfaction… and as long as there is doubt, there will be questions which are left unanswered..

  28. cabbyaz….friend.

    No offense was taken…but there are questions which are still crying out for answers….do you suggest we just ignore them?….maybe just forget 911 ever happened?

    Do you suggest I adopt the position Hillary took on Benghazi when she said at a Congressional hearing, ….”At this point, what difference does it make?”

  29. In comments at ORYR.

    Saska Mare:

    [go to links]

    “Is this the “EARTH SHATTERING NEWS” that Zullo promised us?”

    {photo}

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/01/video-gop-candidate-calls-for-obama-hanging.html#IDComment787670316
    —–
    “How about this?

    {photo}

    This photo is the MOSLEM founder of the Subud Cult (in Indonesia). His name is Mohammed Subud. DOES HIS FACE REMIND YOU OF ANYBODY? BOTH Obama’s MOTHER and Loretta Fuddy (murdered after Hawaii plane crash, and after certifying Obama’s forged birth certificate) are CONFIRMED MEMBERS of this same Indonesian (Islamic) cult. http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/01/barack_hus… This is just developing. Loretta Fuddy was a member of the Subud cult (Indonesian origins) in Hawaii — Ann Dunham also associated with Subud cult. The photo is the founder of Subud — Mohammed Subud — resemblance is pretty shocking/striking. I would appreciate any thoughts any of you might have about this.”

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/01/video-gop-candidate-calls-for-obama-hanging.html#IDComment787670532
    ===============
    Go to:

    “Barack Hussein Soebarkah?”

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/labor-force-participation-collapse-from-younger-dropouts-not-retirees-zero-hedge-nails-it-more-younger-people-born-to-replace-older-labor-force-should-be-increasing-not-decreasing/#comment-304979

    “An Insoluble Problem?”

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/labor-force-participation-collapse-from-younger-dropouts-not-retirees-zero-hedge-nails-it-more-youn

  30. Gordo….thanks for this post

    That picture of Soebarkah is unreal……..but I’m afraid there are some who will say it has been photo shopped…..it sure looks like he could be Obama’s daddy.

  31. Here’s what happens when a government turn rogue….

    The Fox News host, Greta Van Sustren, of “On The Record” recalled a “disturbing phone call from a good friend in the Obama administration” shortly after the Sept. 11, 2012, attack, which the administration initially blamed on a protest of an anti-Islam video

    In this call, my friend told me that my colleague Jennifer Griffin, who was aggressively reporting on Benghazi, was wrong and that, as a favor to me, my friend in the administration was telling me so that I could tell Jennifer so that she did not ruin her career,

    Van Susteren said that in her 20-plus years in the business, she had never received a call to try to shut down a colleague.

    Thanks to Gordo….

  32. Good night all…

    it’s time for the last chapter of “Klondike” on the Discovery Channel….

    It has been a great mini series about the gold rush days in Alaska and the Yukon…

    It was kind of “racy” in parts last night, but I guess that was the way it really was back in those booming hay days….cards, money, whiskey and wild, wild women !…. Now there’s a winning combination for you !

  33. RMinNC,

    Just as I suspected, you have no answer for the simple question of what happened to the FOUR planes, not THREE.

    So if you have no answers, then a logical, reasonable person could conclude that the planes flew in to the WTC and the Pentagon and the field in Penn.

    THAT’s all I’m stating here.

    I agree with Cabby, there’s simply not ONE explaination to cover the “story” that it wasn’t those planes, or that there was some sort of “attatchment” to the second plane (what exactly was that suposed to prove?), or that there was thermite in the building, or whatever other THEORY you might want to put forward.

    I stated in one of my first posts that our Government dropped the ball on the terrorists. Those men were taking flight lessons, were NOT citizens of the US, were here on “visas” and should have been watched more closely.

    But we wouldn’t want to “profile” now would we?

    We have to ASSUME that our Government is more worried about what you and I post on a blog, then what people who are here on “visas” who are taking flight lessons are up too.

    Our Government (the Bush and Clinton FBI people) should have recognized the abnormality of these men taking flight lessons, but they didn’t.

    As far as I’m concerned, THAT’S the issue, how could these 20 men slip through our SUPPOSED intelligence agencies?

    And if these 20 men could do it, what good are the intelligence agencies?

    And I answered your question about the nose cone.

    Not hard to figure out when you watch the video as a whole.

    What you suggest you see is akin to me suggesting that I saw Mickey Mouse hanging out of the 18th window of the second plane with a sign that read “This is gonna hurt”.

    But I respect your opinion and believe that you believe what you post.

    It’s not the “unscathed” nose cone RMinNC. Watch the video as a whole and tell me one more angle that shows the “unscathed” nose cone coming out of that building.

    You can’t do it, because it didn’t happen.

    Any more questions?

    Not that I have the CORRECT answer, but I will give my opinion.

    I have to add that I appreciate your level headedness. You usually would be calling me names and telling me how I don’t know what I’m commenting on, but like Cabby, I have looked at BOTH sides of the issue, and as of right now, I have concluded that although our Government was aware of the 20 terrorists, they did little or nothing to stop them from carrying out their mission.

    THAT’S why what happened on 9/11 happened.

    At least the way I see it.

  34. As far as building 7, there has been not one video of the damage to the other side of the building.

    The side that is always shown, shows very little damage to the building. I think there’s one corner of the building that looks like it has been knocked off by what we can assume was the towers falling.

    But what does the other side of the building look like? Maybe like it had been sheared off by the falling towers which weakened the structure? and Once the back side of the building started falling the side that we have all seen fall “in it’s footprint”, may have followed.

    There were other buildings that weren’t hit by the planes that collapsed also, they simply aren’t reported like building 7 is.

    But again, I respect your opinion, and I’m not trying to change your mind.

    I’m simply showing there are at least TWO sides to the controversy.

  35. And Cabby,

    Not trying to drag you in to this, you offered your opinion and I agree with it.

  36. To RMinNC–“but we still don’t know what “Soebarckah” means on Stanley’s passport…..”

    Reading on another site, someone mentioned this from a Lame Cherry thread–(sorry, can’t find the link), but this is what LC said in the blog:

    “Soetoro in the name, in the prefix of SOE links the name to Javanese roots and not Indonesian alone. Why this matters is that Indonesian names reflect region, family and often religion. It is quite obvious or should have been by now in no one has noted it, that the name Soebarkah is a combination and not one word.
    The name is Soe Bar Kah.

    Soetoro signifies the adoptive father as Lolo Soetoro. Bar is obvious in Barack, but also links to the Islamic Aramic in bar means SON. So we have confirmation of this is the Son of Soetoro.

    The Kah is interesting in Indonesian, KAH translates as WAS. In names, KAH is added as a suffix to form a question of “Who?”

    So what SOE BAR KAH means is literal, and I’m genuinely surprised with even Indonesian “experts” asked to explain all of this, that none of them had any comprehension of the language of their own nation.

    Soe Bar Kah means literally Who is this, but the son of Soetoro.”

  37. From >>> May 31, 2011

    Lame Cherry:

    “Soebarkah”

    “Soetoro in the name, in the prefix of SOE links the name to Javanese roots and not Indonesian alone. Why this matters is that Indonesian names reflect region, family and often religion. It is quite obvious or should have been by now in no one has noted it, that the name Soebarkah is a combination and not one word.
    The name is Soe Bar Kah.”

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/05/soebarkah.html

  38. Air Force Brat

    Good God on His throne, can we get OFF this 9/11 “Truther” idiocy? Page-long posts. Intelligent rebuttals. More page-long posts. On and on and on and on and on. END IT ALREADY !!!!!!!

  39. There are only abut 10 people that post here regularly. It should be real easy to skip over the ones you do not care to read.

    Just a friendly suggestion. Have a nice day.

  40. I have tried to stay out of the 911 discussion. Numerous, to many to actually count, videos from multiple angles and even hotel rooms clearly demonstrate aircraft hitting the towers.

    Building 7 is a more interesting story. It was not hit by aircraft. It burned, then it fell. They say that a structural building fire will not cause a steel frame building like this to collapse. What the 911 people don’t tell you is what was inside building 7, and why it likely fell. See, building 7 was filled with gasoline and diesel tanks….yes you read that right it was filled with gasoline and diesel tanks….really large fuel tanks for weeks of electrical power for CIA/NSA and local government bunkers. These tanks were in the basement of the building and ILLEGALLY PLACED AND VENTED IMPROPERLY. Building 7 was a fire hazard, had already been cited by the port authority as being so, and had never been fixed.

    Lets just say, for the fun of it, I put thousands of gallons of diesel and gasoline in close proximity in the basement of a steel framed structure. I vent it to air several stories up, so no one smells fuel or can ignite them from street level. The lets say tons of burning debris hits the vents and ignites the gasoline tank and it explodes, pierces the nearby diesel tank, and then literally thousands of gallons of mixed diesel and gasoline burn in a the basement of the building for several hours. See any structural problems here?

    The “pulled” firefighters from building 7 because it was hopelessly ablaze from ruptured fuel tanks in the basement that shouldn’t have been there. That fits all of the evidence. It’s clean, neat and doesn’t involve conspiracy only government bureaucrats making bad planning and not fixing them. Sort of like Obamacare, but for buildings.

  41. Well the experts have spoken…so I will shut up….

  42. Since the bipartisan congressional report on Benghazi came out, there have been several on the left who are now saying that the Ambassador, Chris Stephens himself was partly to blame. Apparently, he had declined extra security. That is not true, in fact he had sent several cables requesting just that. Here is the true story by whistleblower, Gregory Hicks:
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304302704579332732276330284?mod=ITP_opinion_0&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304302704579332732276330284.html%3Fmod%3DITP_opinion_0

  43. But what’s most important for people, especially Americans to understand is that more than 50 years ago we were all warned by some of the most powerful people on the planet that a group of people were trying to pull the strings of governments and societies behind the scenes. For those of you who don’t think secret societies have any power, or that the media is there to inform us,….think again… just look at how the press has kept think-tanks like the Bilderberg Group and Bohemian Grove off the pages of their newspapers and TV screens, and when called out to explain the activities of these groups…., the press will just say it’s just a bunch of rich no-names having fun…..Yea, at your expense.

    But here’s a stark message to all of you who take what the mainstream press says as the undisputed truth. When the shit hits the fan, don’t say you weren’t warned:
    —————————————————————————————–

    a great American once said:

    “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

    Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

    Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed; and no republic can survive.

    That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First (emphasized) Amendment, the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution, not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and sentimental, not to simply “give the public what it wants” but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

    . This means greater coverage and analysis of international news, for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security

    … And so it is to the printing press – to the recorder of mans deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news – that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be:… free and independent”
    —————————————————————————————–
    So….should we, as Americans, question …or blindly accept whatever the press says is the truth of the matter? I cannot speak for anyone but myself, and I will question…because that is my God given right.

  44. CW…..

    Why is my last post in moderation?….Please remove it….thank you.

  45. cabbyaz | January 22, 2014 at 6:48 pm | Ditto
    Air Force Brat | January 23, 2014 at 5:49 am | Ditto

    Good Lord, its been over 50 years since the JFK assassination, and the debate and conspiracies continue. The conspiracies over 9-11 will most likely go on ad infinitum. May I humbly suggest a private discourse on this matter rather than here at CW.

  46. It’s nice to see everyone in such a cheerful mood this morning……

    Better brush up on your Chinese…looks like we will need it.
    http://philosophyofmetrics.com/

  47. What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gander….
    —————————————————————————————————-
    Ex-Gov. of Virginia Indicted for 14 Felonies

    Four years and one week ago, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell gave the Republican response to President Obama’s State of the Union address. On Tuesday, he and his wife, Maureen, were indicted on federal corruption charges in connection to their relationship with a donor named Jonnie Williams, according to the Washington Post and NY Times.

    McDonnell’s lawyers wasted no time, however, filing legal motions Tuesday challenging the legitimacy of the criminal indictment, trying to paint the ex-governor’s actions as unexceptional rather than corrupt. Politico reports McDonnell’s legal team invokes the names of President Obama and former Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, arguing that Obama has traded official appointments for political gifts and that, as governor, Kaine accepted far more in personal gifts than McDonnell.
    ——————————————————————————————————
    Which just goes to show they are “all brothers under the skin”

  48. Mortrey….
    I like your explanation of the SOEBARKAH which is allegedly crossed out. Two years ago I talked at length with a Indonesian person here who operates a small neighborhood grocery,and I asked that person what SOEBARKAH meant. That person said that it appears to be a name abbreviation, which makes reference to “son of Soetoro”. That person also said that the name Soetoro was well known in Indonesia. I didn’t pursue it any further simply because I did not think that it was really anything more than the abbreviation of a name.,but now there seems to be links to Loretta Fuddy,who by herself might be linked to the usurper in the wackey House. At the very least you have opened up a whole new line of thought regarding the HDOH and the people within, as has Dr.Kissner.

  49. The Financial Future of America…….
    In short….it stinks.

  50. RMINNC…………..Re 10:28 AM
    I personally believe that Mc Donnell, being ANOTHER Republican governor, is for the MOST PART the victim of still another FOAMING AT THE MOUTH RADICAL LUNATIC LEFT attempt to DISCREDIT ALL REPUBLICAN governors. It shows how insane they have become. They failed with Walker,they failed with Christie, and they will fail where it concerns McDonnell as well. How many failures does it take for the LIBERAL NUT CASES to GET THE MESSAGE?

  51. …..pardon my error.Mc Donnell is an EX governor.

  52. a …CONGRESS OF CLOWNS…I like that term.

  53. Gordo……
    You have the same take on the abbreviation as I now do. It seems that all of us missed the importance of the ABBREVIATION. I also liked the explanation at American Thinker which was put forward by Dr.Kissner. When you think about it there is a lot of logic in it,but I was surprised to find the abbreviation even being linked to Fuddy,and the organisation to which she allegedly belonged. Perhaps the Secret Service guy knows a hell of a lot more,and has only scratched the surface when he said “IT IS FAR WORSE THAN ANYONE THINKS”

  54. Let me try this again……
    But what’s most important for people, especially Americans to understand is that more than 50 years ago we were all warned by some of the most powerful people on the planet that a group of people were trying to pull the strings of governments and societies behind the scenes. For those of you who don’t think secret societies have any power, or that the media is there to inform us,….think again… just look at how the press has kept think-tanks like the Bilderberg Group and Bohemian Grove off the pages of their newspapers and TV screens, and when called out to explain the activities of these groups…., the press will just say it’s just a bunch of rich no-names having fun…..Yea, at our expense.

    But here’s a stark message to all of you who take whatever the mainstream press says as the undisputed truth. When the sh*t hits the fan, don’t say you weren’t warned:
    —————————————————————————————–

    a great American once said:

    “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

    Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

    Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed; and no republic can survive.

    That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First (emphasized) Amendment, the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution, not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and sentimental, not to simply “give the public what it wants” but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

    . This means greater coverage and analysis of international news, for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security

    … And so it is to the printing press – to the recorder of mans deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news – that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be:… free and independent”
    —————————————————————————————–
    So….should we, as Americans, question …or blindly accept whatever the press says is the truth of the matter? I cannot speak for anyone but myself, and I will question…because that is my God given right.

  55. THEY ARE HERE…and they are demanding FREE ObamaCare
    http://www.turnerradionetwork.com...

  56. RMinNC — I agree that there is something large and nefarious working secretly behind the scenes. It is conspiratorial. It is evil. What is it? Naming it is what is hard.

    I think the New Testament Christian apostle Paul succeeded when he said that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities and powers of the unseen world. This corresponds to Jewish mystical teaching concerning the surrounding unseen world and its inhabitants, the Shedim (demons).

    The latest thing that ties a lot of this together is the connection of Loretta Fuddy to the same spiritual organization that Obama’s mother belonged to, called Subud. It was started by a Muslim in Indonesia. I had never heard of this before.

    In Jewish mystical writings, there is a danger of submitting to spiritual things that are not Biblical nor Torah based. It opens the doors for domination by the Shedim. I know this may sound “far out” but the reason so many get caught up in conspiratorial theories, I believe, is they sense something large and nefarious is working behind the scenes and they want to identify it.

    The real battle, however, is of a cosmic nature. The only way to fight the good fight is to first get one’s spiritual house in order. Whether Jew or Christian, participate in a spiritual community and pray.

    As for the physical manifestation of conspiracy, whenever you have a concentration of power without adequate checks and balances, there is the potential for dark, negative spiritual forces to enter in. That is what our Founding Fathers knew and wanted to guard against with the Constitution they produced. These checks and balances have been set aside by current politicians.

    I believe Communism and Islam are both inspired from the dark side and anything that works to promote either is under demonic domination. Obama is a figure head for both of these. What combines them both is the writings of Muhammed Baqir al-Sadr. You can find these online. The main theme is “the redistribution of wealth.” His writings were the blueprint for the Iranian Revolution. He was a Shiite from Iraq and was executed by Saddam Hussein. (Shia Islam would be more receptive to something like Subud than Sunni Islam, by the way.) Just some thoughts to consider. . .

  57. IS THIS THE WAY IT ENDS?

  58. DEAN……

    I agree entirely with your last post……..

  59. RMinNC — Have you seen a recent movie, “Shadow Recruit?” It is based on a Tom Clancy character. It concerns an attempt by a Russian anti-American to cause the collapse of the dollar and a CIA effort to stop this.

    The problem is, it is Obama & Co trying to destroy the dollar and the CIA has been taken over, i.e., through its new director, Brennan (fluent in Arabic and thought to be a convert to Islam). Putin and the Russians are the ones standing up for American values. I could be wrong, but that is how it looks to me. (Each day, to get a fuller idea of things I check out Pravda and Moscow English versions of the news.)

    Anyway, I appreciate your contribution here. I really do. And I appreciate everyone that posts here. In one way or another we’re all trying to share ideas and viewpoints in dealing with the current plight of our country. Meantime, I think it might be time to become active in the Tea Party and go into some kind of partial survival mode–food storage and protective measures with fellow citizens for the possibility of worse case scenarios. Lots of prayer, too, for the country and fellow Americans.

  60. Good afternoon CW et al,

    I am growing tired of hearing the Media discuss how Putin is going to protect everyone at the Olympics and his responsibility.

    Here is my Sochi Russia Olympic predictions.

    Even “if” there is a terrorist attack, there will be less Americans Killed, Maimed or harmed than that of the U.S. Soil Boston Marathon terrorist attack.

  61. RMinNC,

    Hi big guy. I watched the video you posted, on how it may end. In my opinion, it wouldn’t take even that amount to trigger it, rather the Fed Reserve could announce its no longer going to Print 85 Billion U.S. dollars monthly to pump the market to trigger it.

    But this hillbilly knows how to survive and has the means, land and protection to do it. 🙂

  62. RMinNC | January 10, 2014 at 6:21 pm |

    Before you leave IB…….

    May I suggest that you look at the History Channel’s series entitled, “The Men Who Killed Kennedy”….

    ….I suggest you also read a recent book written by a man named Roger Stone, who was a Washington insider in the Johnson, Nixon years….the title is called, The Case Against LBJ”…he pretty well lays out a case that would stand up in any court of law……and yes I have read the book.

    RMinNC,

    Thanks for mentioning this book. Reading it brought me to the book by Peter Janny, “Mary’s Mosaic”.

    It is a fascinating read, as well.

  63. DEAN…….
    Again I couldn’t agree more with your last post…Isn’t it strange how Tom Clancy died? rumors are he was “wacked” just like Breirbart for knowing too much about the ONE…..No I haven’t seen Shadow Recruit, but I have been a Clancy fan for a long time…I will have to make an effort to find out where it’s playing…thanks

    WILLIAM….
    Hi to my Tennessee friend…..you are probably right about the FED…..when you are 17.5 TRILLION dollars in the hole and still borrowing and spending money like a drunken sailor ( no offense to my friend oldsailor81 ) on a five day shore leave in Hong Kong……well you know the rest of the story….,and as you said, Tennesseans know how to survive…I agree because I too am a
    Tennessean by birth.

    RAY……
    No I haven’t read “Mary’s Mosaic”….but now that you have recommended it, I will go online to Amazon and see if I can find it…thanks, I will check it out.

    Speaking of Mary…..I have read a book called, “Dr. Mary’s Monkey”,,,,it’s the story of Dr. Mary Sherman, a well know cancer research doctor who lived in New Orleans in the 1960’s and used monkeys in her cancer research.

    She was murdered around the time Jim Garrison began his investigation into the JFK thing (which I’m not suppose to talk about any more on here).

    Anyway. Mary Sherman was tied into David Ferrie, a real shady and very seedy character who had long standing ties with the CIA.. Mary’s boss was David Oshner, another well know cancer doctor in New Orleans with ties to high up officials in our federal government.. Together, they ran a clandestine research operation that had a high voltage machine that would cause cancer cells to grow at an alarming rate….as a result, they created a “galloping cancer” which would kill within 28 days, now that’s fast !..They tested their “galloping cancer” out on unwilling and unknowing prisoners from the La. State Prison ….who had volunteered, not knowing exactly what they had volunteered for..

    Then of course, another main character in the book was Lee Oswarld, who acted kind of as a courier of the cancer rat cells, and a young girl from Florida by the name of Judith Very Baker, who was responsible for dissecting the live rats, cutting out the cancer growths, grinding them up in a kitchen blender and making a ‘cancer soup” which she gave to Dr. Mary for her experiments and additional work……

    Judith Very Baker is still alive today and has published her own book entitled, “Lee and Me”…which I have ordered…..I will post on that when I have completed it.

    ok, I better stop there….. or I will give the whole story of “Dr. Mary’s Monkey” away and you will have no need to read it…..but I will say,

    “Dr. Mary’s Monkey” was a real barn burning page turner….I didn’t put it down until I had finished it….if you choose to read it.., you won’t either.

    It could explain a lot of the cancer deaths which are now occurring with the “baby boomer” population. Read it, you won’t be disappointed.

  64. “Obama’s State of the Union Speech Will Be All Lies”

    “On January 28, the President of the United States will stand before a joint session of Congress and lie to them and to all Americans.

    The mainstream media will treat it as a serious presentation and make no mention of the lies.”

    “The “low information” Americans will take Barack Obama at his word. Nearly half of all Americans who might listen to the speech or read about it are on some form of government dole or entitlement program. They are interested in food stamps, unemployment compensation, their disability status, and an older generation will understandably want to ensure their Social Security checks keep coming and Medicare will continue to underwrite their medical costs.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Most of us like to condemn low-information voters—the stupid are picking our leaders. But, the real problem is the low-information leaders. They have so little experience of life— hands-on experiences— that they are incompetent.
    We have leaders who saw the movie, but didn’t read the book.

  65. Dean M.
    I am a ‘truther’, yes, I hate that name.
    I have spent weeks researching all videos, articles, info about that lie, 9/11.
    I will tell you that I DO NOT hold Bush even knowledgeable of that event.
    I think he was in the dark the 2 years of the planning of this event.
    I will say this…any patriot that thinks 19 Arabs with box cutters can defeat the multi-billion defense system of the most guarded building of the planet needs to have themselves admitted to a psyche ward.
    Lesson over.

  66. Yes, of course.
    And Osama bin Laden and his cohorts had the exclusive contract to deliver
    thousands of gallons of jet fuel to all 3 sites……….Oh Wait !!!!!

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