Obama gun statements Second Amendment position, Rhino Times, February 7, 2013, Common sense reporting in NC, Dogs locked up mentally ill allowed to roam free

Obama gun statements Second Amendment position, Rhino Times, February 7, 2013, Common sense reporting in NC, Dogs locked up mentally ill allowed to roam free

“And it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigraant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment, as a way to explain their frustrations.”… Barack Obama

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”… Barack Obama

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA – ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.”…Heinrich Himmler


Commonsense reporting from John Hammer of the Rhino Times in NC.

With the increased control of the press by Obama, special interests, including foreigners and now Warren Buffett via Berkshire Hathaway, independent publications like the Rhinoceros Times become even more important.

From the Rhino Times February 7, 2013.

“President Barack Hussein Obama has evidently fired a shotgun, but we all know that he doesn’t “shoot skeet all the time.” At least Obama didn’t say that after he shot the skeet he cleaned it and Michelle cooked it for a healthy family dinner.

But he did say, “We do skeet shooting all the time.” Can you imagine if he had said, “We do basketball shooting all the time.” Or “We do golf ball hitting all the time.” People shoot skeet, they don’t “do skeet shooting.”

But the mainstream media just accepts whatever comes out of Obama’s mouth as the gospel.

Obama keeps talking about country people who grew up hunting and says they have a right to be able to continue that tradition, as if the US Constitution said, “Because people like to hunt, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

That is not what the Constitution says. The Second Amendment reads, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

The Second Amendment is not about hunting or target shooting, it is about individuals having the right to bear arms to protect themselves from people who don’t want them to live in a “free State.” It is so that “the people” can protect themselves from the government.

The idea that this right has not been infringed is pretty silly, but the Second Amendment should not be infringed anymore. If Obama and the liberals think that the Second Amendment is outdated, there is a process to change it. When it turned out prohibition didn’t work the president didn’t issue executive orders allowing certain people to drink alcohol at certain times, nor did he issue an executive order making martinis legal but keeping beer illegal. Instead Congress acted responsibly and the 18th Amendment was repealed by the 21st Amendment.

Let Obama start the process to repeal the Second Amendment if he thinks it needs to be done. And we’ll see how that works for him.

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Insane people are going into places where they can be relatively certain that no one else has guns and shooting people. In the case of Newtown, Adam Lanza went into an elementary school and killed children, which tears at everyone’s heart. But if the problem is that some insane or evil people are shooting others in places where guns are outlawed, is the solution to outlaw more guns? Lanza stole those guns from his mother, whom he killed. Is it possible to stop insane people from killing responsible gun owners and stealing their guns?

The Obama response to the shooting at Newtown is despicable, because it is simply political. The kids were killed with a rifle that looks like, but is not, an assault rifle. So the response from our president, who is supposed to be smart, is to ban rifles that look like assault rifles. Does Obama really believe that if the gun Lanza had stolen from his mother had had a wooden stock instead of a plastic one that he would not have shot anyone? Would it have really saved lives if the gun had not had a flash suppressor? Are we supposed to believe that if he had had to put in a new magazine more often he would have just given up and gone home without killing anyone? He reloaded several times as it was, so slipping in a few more magazines would not appear to have been a problem for him.

He could have killed just as many people with a rifle that looked more like a traditional hunting rifle. Obama is not asking Congress to outlaw guns that operate like the one used in Newtown, but just guns that look like the one used at Newtown. Are the American people going to fall for that level of absurdity?

A better way to keep insane people from killing others is to have a place for insane people to go where they can be kept safe and others can be protected from them. According to the reports on his behavior, Lanza needed to be somewhere he could be treated. But in the US we have decided that it is wrong to provide care and treatment for the severely mentally ill.

If you spend any time length of time with the homeless you know that many of them could benefit from someone taking care of them. They are homeless because they can’t deal with society, and society won’t help them except to give them blankets so they won’t freeze to death while they sleep on our streets.

It is ever so interesting to me that when I was a child dogs roamed free and the mentally ill were locked up for their own good. Today dogs are locked up for their own good and the mentally ill are allowed to roam free. One of the big reasons given for locking up dogs was to protect them. It is a strange society that cares more about the welfare of dogs than people.”

“What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”… Elbridge Gerry


56 responses to “Obama gun statements Second Amendment position, Rhino Times, February 7, 2013, Common sense reporting in NC, Dogs locked up mentally ill allowed to roam free

  1. Good morning Zach, et al.

  2. Good morning CW,

    It was brought to my attention recently that, according to SCOTUS, you cannot license, tax or restrict a “right”. I don’t recall what case was cited, but I’ll try to find out.

  3. OT, but I think you’ll enjoy this quote by C. H. Spurgeon,

    “A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats.”

  4. Beckwith at “The Obama Files”:


    “Homeland Security’s RFP for 240,000 “training” bullets”

    “The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has just published a request for proposal for 200,000 hollow point and 40,000 ball ammunition for “training.”

    Aaron Klein previously reported that last March, DHS ordered 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition, including hollow point bullets, from defense contractor ATK to be delivered over five years.

    Hollow-point tip bullets are rarely used in training exercises. They are among the deadliest bullets, with the ability to pass through barriers and expand for a bigger impact without the rest of the bullet warping.

    In April, Business Insider reported on an additional DHS request for 750 million more rounds for a total of at least 1.2 billion bullets. The 750 million is more than 10 times what U.S. troops used in a full year of Iraqi combat.

    Is Obama morphing DHS into his dream of “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded (as the military)?””

  5. “Obot Targets Cops In Killing Spree: Slams Those That Question Obama’s Birth Certificate”

    “Chris Dorner, the suspected mass-murdering cop killer on the run in California, is a big supporter of leftist leaders and liberal media hacks. Before he went on his killing spree he wrote a 22 page manifesto full of praise for leftist leaders in media and politics. Dorner is suspected of killing one cop and two civilians during a rampage that began Sunday, injuring two other officers along the way.

    The killer is also a huge Obama supporter and fan of gun-control.

    Loves Obama:

    You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. […]”


  6. Great man, great speech:

    Obama At Prayer Breakfast Forced To Hear Amazing Speech By Conservative Black Doctor Decrying Political Correctness, Moral Decay And Fiscal Irresponsibility….

  7. I suppose “liberal” means different things in different countries:

    Secular Egyptian Protesters Bash US Democrats in Tahrir: “Down With American Democratic Party, the Ally of Morsi”
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, February 8, 2013, 7:50 AM

    The Egyptian liberals are very upset with Barack Obama and his Democrat Party for propping up the Muslim Brotherhood and Morsi regime.
    This sign was seen in Tahrir this week:


  8. Thank you so much Observer, for posting that video. It was the first time I was able to hear Dr. Carson’s remarks in total. What a remarkable man. I found myself teary eyed at the end.

  9. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Observer – Thank you for that wonderful PrayerBreakfast speech by Dr. Carson. Just watching the O twist & turn and fidget was worth half of the enjoyment.
    If you click on the “youtube” bug on the video you can read all the comments.

  10. Observer,

    If you really want to pull your hair out, look up liberalism in the back of “Road To Serfdom”.


    There are some great comments over at breitbart on this video.

    And I hope you are listening to Rush right now.

  11. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Dr. Benjamin Carson is proof that we need more brain surgeons than lawyers to run this country!!

  12. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – The O looks as if someone was feeding him info on the Panetta hearings!! A complete disaster for the admin.

  13. Ray,
    Are you talking about a review of the book “Road To Serfdom” at Breitbart? If you have a link, I would really appreciate it. Thanks.



    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953,
    about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
    up and exterminated.
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
    Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total
    of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
    political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
    Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
    Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
    because of gun control:…… 56 million.
    You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
    disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!
    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them
    of this history lesson.

    With guns, we are ‘citizens’….. Without them, we are mere ‘subjects’.

    During WW II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they
    knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value your freedom, please spread this anti gun-control message to all of your friends.

    The purpose of fighting is to win.There is no possible victory in defense.
    The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important
    than either…..The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.



  15. Communist GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham Supports Drone Assassinations of Americans

    Obama can’t be given the authority to kill American citizens with no due process, apparently Lindsey Graham feels differently. For the record I have no problem with the CIA targeting al-Qaeda operatives in Pakistan and Yemen, but the line has to be drawn at American citizens.


  16. “Obama Addresses Fellow Kenyans From White House: Follow Rule Of Law; Reject Corruption”


  17. What I gather from the recent videos by Rabbi Cahn and Dr. Carlson is that we might as well forget looking towards our reps in congress to stand up for us…………..they are useless………….utterly useless………..why even pay them anymore?

  18. Observer.
    Thank you so much for the video.
    I just listened to it.
    It was one of the greatest speeches that I have ever heard.
    DR. Benjamin Carson is a wise and patriotic man.
    We need more like him.

  19. From the previous thread:

    Ray | February 8, 2013 at 3:06 am |

    Thanks, Ray, but I ain’t got no hides around here, except my own :).

    State of Emergency has just been declared in MA, CT and RI; vehicle traffic is banned in MA after 4:00 PM.

    It’s getting hairy out there…

  20. For those who may not know the background of Dr. Ben Carson, I am posting this, because a movie of his life story was on TV a couple of years ago. Being very impressed, I ordered a DVD. It is also in book form. He is a wonderful, God-fearing, talented man.

    I found this synopsis of “Gifted Hands: the Ben Carson Story.” (Wikipedia)
    The movie begins in 1987, where Dr. Ben Carson (Cuba Gooding, Jr.) goes to Germany to visit a couple named Peter and Augusta Rausch, who have twins conjoined at the head. Ben knows that chances of saving them both will be a risk, because one baby always dies in situations like that. Ben agrees to do the operation, but he will wait four months so he can come up with a plan to save them both.

    While looking into some of his books, the movie flashes back to the year 1961, where 11 year old Ben Carson (Jaishon Fisher) starts out life as an African American child from a one-parent home with failing grades at school. Ben has an older brother named Curtis. His mother, who dropped out in the third grade, starts making decisions for him. When her boys need to learn multiplication tables, she has them swear to learn them while she is gone to check herself into a mental institution.

    When she sees her two sons’ success hindered by TV, she schedules timings to watch TV, boys show great interest in watching only a quiz show later on and commands them to read two books per week from the library and give her a book report, she also moves them to better schools.
    Meanwhile as time passes, Ben learns how to multiply and to spell. He starts to explore the world of books, and he grows in it.

    He begins to show a temper; Ben almost kills his friend who tells him to go to hell. He used his new knife to stab him and it broke when it hit the buckle of his belt. Having almost killed someone because of his temper, he realizes that he can’t do anything about it. He runs to his room and cries out to God, praying that He delivers him from his temper.

    He becomes the top student in his eighth grade class, third in his high school class and with hard work and strong determination, he got a scholarship to college, passed the MCAT and went on to medical school. He meets his girlfriend Candy, whom he falls in love with. One day, when he struggles with a test study, she helps him out and Ben eventually passes and gets an A.
    In the year 1976, Carson faced adversity from fellow doctors and students while working at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. It is here where he performed an operation as a resident without supervision, risking his medical career to save a man’s life. Then in the year of 1985, he saves the life of a girl who has seizures 100 times a day, by removing only the half of her brain that was responsible for seizures in a procedure called ‘hemispherectomy”. After two children, Candy becomes pregnant with twins, but loses the babies from a bloody miscarriage. Ben’s mother later moves in with the family.

    Then the movie goes back to where it began: the year of 1987. Ben is eventually convinced to operate on the two twins, and he manages to make the operation successful, and both twins are saved.

  21. SueQ,

    Sorry, no I was talking about comments on the Dr. Ben Carson speech. And sorry the “hope you are listening to Rush” comment was meant for SueK. I will see if I can find a review on Road to Serfdom. I still have never been able to get through the book without stopping for months.


    Hold on to that hide. 🙂

  22. Cabby,

    Thanks for the movie review. I just watched again Dr. Carson’s speech. Just simply awesome. This time, however, I watched Obama’s body language. You could tell he was very uncomfortable. When Dr. Carson targeted Obamacare, it seemed as though he (Obama) dropped his head and began to mumble something. I can only guess what that might be. Perhaps a prayer of some sort? To the father of lies/flies?


    When Earth’s Last Picture Is Painted

    When Earth’s last picture is painted
    And the tubes are twisted and dried
    When the oldest colors have faded
    And the youngest critic has died
    We shall rest, and faith, we shall need it
    Lie down for an aeon or two
    ‘Till the Master of all good workmen
    Shall put us to work anew
    And those that were good shall be happy
    They’ll sit in a golden chair
    They’ll splash at a ten league canvas
    With brushes of comet’s hair
    They’ll find real saints to draw from
    Magdalene, Peter, and Paul
    They’ll work for an age at a sitting
    And never be tired at all.
    And only the Master shall praise us.
    And only the Master shall blame.
    And no one will work for the money.
    No one will work for the fame.
    But each for the joy of the working,
    And each, in his separate star,
    Will draw the thing as he sees it.
    For the God of things as they are!

  24. Thanks Ray, for the explanation. I have never tackled “Road to Serfdom”, as I am intellectually impaired for books like that. My son-in-law, (much smarter than me) gave it a try, and found it also hard to stick with as well.

    Take care.

  25. Sue Q

    This may be one of the best reviews on Road To Serfdom.

    Walter Block*


  26. Obama’s Nominee To Run Dept Of The Interior, Received Waiver From Obamacare Although She Promoted It On Behalf Of Obama

    Has anyone noticed that anyone who is associated in any way with Obama is in some way disreputable?


  27. SueQ,

    This is a correspondence between Walter Block and Milton Friedman where Friedman defends Hayak against Blocks views.


  28. Observer,

    Yes. If you worship Mao or are a member of CPUSA, if you were a member of the Weather Underground, if you love Castro or Hugo, if you have swapped spit with the communist Chinese (Jane & Jon), if you support killing the unborn, if you are for the thug unions or aligned with the environmental nut jobs (just to mention a few) you will fit right in.

  29. Ray, I’m getting nowhere with your links. Maybe it’s just me.

    I feel somewhat embarrassed. When I click on your link, I get 20_3_4.pdf. Then I get gobbledeegook. So sorry. I would truly like to respond to you.

  30. SueQ,

    they are good links, as I tried them after posting here. I don’t know what to say. I had a problem yesterday opening video links, both in IE and Firefox. I just upgraded my Norton last month and it really put a drag on this old computer. I had to do some file clean up before I got it working.

    You might try going to mises.org and see if you can get to the articles that way.

  31. SueQ —

    Try downloading and installing this:

    At “MajorGeeks:

    “Foxit Reader”

    “Foxit Reader is a PDF document viewer, with incredible small size, breezing-fast launch speed and rich feature set.”


    ***** UN-SELECT “22find” if the choice appears during installation. *****”

  32. Just thinking……….

    President Obama claims to be a centrist, but perhaps this observation is
    incorrect and a new buzz phrase needs to be coined. The newly created definition for Obama is a “political transcendentalist.” I am not one,
    but how many do you know?

    Political Transcendentalism is a philosophical movement developed as a
    protest to the general state of cultures and society in the United
    States, and in particular, the state of capitalism, the doctrine of the
    Supreme Court, and a sworn oath to the Constitution. Among the
    transcendentalists’ core beliefs are the inherent goodness of both Karl
    Marx and Mao Tse-Tung, and are governed through public rhetoric and actions for their ability to be re-elected.

    Transcendentalists believe that society and its institutions – particularly organized religion, corporations and political parties- ultimately corrupt the purity of the earth. They have faith that man is at his best when truly reliant and dependent upon the Government. It is only
    from such real individuals that true communal living can be formed. Its
    success is achieved through controlled school curriculum and media,
    which support the teaching of biased gun-control, use of class-warfare
    rhetoric, and a hatred for everyone that, do not think as they do.

  33. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Watching Fox now and they are all gagga over Dr. Carson. He is now where Sarah Pallin was when she came on the scene. The Dems will be just as frightened of him when she came on the scene. I want to see an interview with him and Katie Couric!!(Ratings – Cleavage & “Absolutely”)
    This could be our LAST great hope.

    PS – His Health Plan destroys the Obama one.
    My optimism is coming back. Thanks Observer – I needed that!

  34. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – I googled ” Dr. Benjamin Carson” in the news section and got –


  35. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PPS – “Kerry Yawns Through Prayer Breakfast”


    They are getting scared now.

  36. “Ohio Election Official: ‘I Voted Twice For Obama’”

    FEBRUARY 8, 2013

    “Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. Well, here is proof to the contrary…”


  37. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    The 3 most important words in the American lexicon –

    1 – Ratings
    2 – Cleavage
    3 – “Absolutely”

  38. Is there a doctor in the house?
    Dr. Carson was brilliant and incisive; the solutions are plainly in front of us.
    Those who will not pursue them are clearly interested in tyranny, not liberty.
    How to neutralize the good Doctor; that is what the minions are working on now.
    Please share the doctor’s speech with everyone who still listens to you.
    What an ‘in your face’ moment for Soetoro. It is as if he took the ball to the hole and was blocked with the ball being taken from him and sent downcourt for an easy layup. In your face, Usurper! No respect!
    Here is a guy who came from nothing, but hard work and liberty allowed him to pursue his gifts.
    What a contrast with entitled, elitist, Soetoro, who earned nothing through his own effort, but has been picked by enemies of liberty to destroy the last best chance of hope on earth.
    Hearing Dr Carson makes me wonder if God is still with us and all is not lost. Remember Rahab’s red ribbon. We all need a red ribbon to protect us from God’s wrath over America.

  39. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Sean Hannity about to have a Dr. Carson section on his show.

  40. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    CW – Hannity must be reading you! I see he is going to have the “Absolutely” lady on too.

  41. What a wonderful appearance by Dr. Ben Carson on Hannity tonight! The doctor is a prince of a man – gracious, unassuming, intelligent and courageous. Of course, Hannity, as he often does, wanted to know if the doctor would ever consider running for President, to which he replied that only if God grabbed him by the collar…… He will be back on H’s program again next week. His book, America the Beautiful, I bet is very good.

  42. Communist Ex-Rep Jesse Jackson Jr. Pleads Guilty

    CHICAGO — Former Illinois congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. has reached a plea agreement in connection to a federal probe into whether or not the troubled lawmaker misused campaign funds.

    Earlier this month Jackson pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, mail fraud, and making false statements, sources close to the investigation told ABC’s Chicago station WLS. Jackson could now face up to five years in jail, a decision that will ultimately be made by a federal judge. The former congressman signed the plea deal on Feb. 1 in the nation’s capital.

    The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington, D.C., which has been running this investigation, had no comment when contacted today by ABC News.

    The plea agreement comes a little over two months after Jackson stepped down from Congress. In his resignation letter to House Speaker John Boehner, Jackson, D-Ill., acknowledged that he had made his “share of mistakes.”

    “I am aware of the ongoing federal investigation into my activities and I am doing my best to address the situation responsibly, cooperate with the investigators, and accept responsibility for my mistakes, for they are my mistakes and mine alone,” he wrote in the letter. “None of us is immune from our share of shortcomings or human frailties and I pray that I will be remembered for what I did right.”

    MORE http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressman-jesse-jackson-jr-pleads-guilty-federal-probe/story?id=18442233


  43. For those who’ve never ventured into the mind of a mad man, here is the uncensored version of Christopher Dorner’s manifesto.

  44. Good morning CW et al.

    SueQ, (good morning to you 🙂 )

    I am wondering something here.

    Where are the “Drones” in the search for the American domestic terrorist Christopher Dorner? Why doesn’t Obama and the defense department put their money where their mouth is and simply send in a drone strike on this American terrorist? He fits the perfect bill of what they describe as legal case to use deadly force with drones.

    Now prove it!

  45. William……………
    Good morning all! Yeah Dorner would be a perfect subject,but alas he is a staunch Soetoro supporter. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has everything he needs already supplied at a secret point by Soetoro himself.

  46. Kind of strange at the end of his manifesto where he thanks numerous people for his success in life, (as if he’s receiving a grammy award or something) and even praises George H W Bush, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton (“Take care of Bill, Hillary”), as well as many others. Pretty darn creepy.

    PS. Good morning to you as well! 🙂

  47. William……………
    I can’t help wonder about our so called tactical people. Hell instead of sending real people to do a job,the government sends oversised model airplanes. They don’t fly very fast,and would be an easy target for surface to air missiles. Particularly those missiles which fly at Mach 3 and faster. The faster the missile the less chance there is for the target to even take evasive action. Right now the Stinger missiles are sub sonic,but just think what could happen to just our airliners if some of the CRAZIES among us would ever get their hands on a super sonic version of the Stinger,which also has about a 20 mile range ……straight up!

  48. ……….and to make them even worse, electronically guided to their intended target, with either a HAND HELD RADAR,or with satellite guidance, neither of which is NOT IMPOSSIBLE!

  49. Good morning William, et al.

  50. ……….I am not saying that the drones are not effective,because in reality they ARE. When such a device is used as it was designed,and /or intended they ARE EFFECTIVE. It is only when somebody tries to use this device outside of it’s normal use parameters that these weapons are often ineffective.

  51. Sueq…………….
    I think that any court of law would look upon Dorner as CRIMINALLY INSANE…..to which I would add probably POLITICALLY MOTIVATED,and/or LIBERAL LUNATIC.

  52. oldsailor,

    He seems to be all over the map poitically. He said he didn’t vote in the last election because Huntsman didn’t get the nomination. But you’re right. He’s very pro Obama and very pro gun control. He’s very very bitter about his treatment at LAPD………..to the point where he’s targetting his enemy’s families. Sick!

  53. But then Obama targeted his enemy’s family as well. Wasn’t Anwar al-Awlaki’s son assassinated? Go figure. Much in common.

  54. Sueq……………
    Irregardless of what a US citizen has done he /she is entitled to due process of law. Even the SNOT NOSED LITTLE SCUM Jeffery Lindh,who was captured fighting with our enemy, was allowed to be prosecuted wiithin our criminal courts.(Thanks to his well off father). In reality he should have been treated exactly like an enemy combatant.

  55. Sueq……….
    Dorner has murdered several people and now has decided that he can be put to death only once. I am sure that even in his twisted mental state he knows this, and for this reason he will probably keep right on killing until he himself is killed,or somehow captured alive…….which is DOUBTFUL.

  56. oldsailor,

    I agree wholeheartedly with you that a US citizen is entitled to due process! My point was that even if you could make a case (on the flimsiest of grounds) for killing al-Awlaki, you certianly couldn’t make a case for killing his son. I get the feeling that I’m not expressing myself very well here, so I think I will bow out gracefully.

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