Biden Ryan debate response, October 12, 2012, Citizen Wells commenters nail it, Joe Biden and Obama have no record to run on, Chicago style politics

Biden Ryan debate response, October 12, 2012, Citizen Wells commenters nail it, Joe Biden and Obama have no record to run on, Chicago style politics

“Vice-presidential candidate Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del. (left), has been advised since 1984 by Joseph Cari (right), the Chicago lawyer and onetime mega-fundraiser who has been tied to the Antoin “Tony” Rezko patronage scandal.”…ABC News August 25, 2008

“Why did Joe Biden’s son have Larry Sinclair arrested at the end of Sinclair’s National Press Club presentation?”…Citizen Wells

“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured… but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”

“Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are
citizens will receive free insurance, paid for by those who are forced to
buy insurance because they are citizens.”…Ben Stein

I watched as much of the debate as I could stomach last night. Joe Biden and his running mate Obama have no record to run on and continue to resort to Chicago style and Alinsky politics. Biden, with his constant interruptions and undignified responses, revealed his lack of respect for the office and the American public.

The good commenters of Citizen Wells nailed it.

SueK:

“Joe ‘Plugs’ Biden is an idiot. Paul Ryan was dignified and stated his case perfectly, even though he was nervous. If Plugs and that ever-present (fake) smirk kept interrupting me, I would’ve embarrassed him on the national stage and told him he was rude and condescending. Either that, or I would’ve crawled across the table and smacked him”

Philo-Publius:

“Moderator bias was on full display and she neglected to mentioned O and her hubby were Harvard buds and invited him to their wedding.”

observer:

“All the dufus public who could only say Biden was “passionate” apparently could not tell that he was using his display as a cover for his ignorance. Within his “passion” he was lying and demagoguing. This moderator is still definitely biased towards her specially invited marriage guest. She willingly lost control of Biden’s blatant interruptions when the program was to have 2 min. each. I’d prefer a VP who has control of himself. Also apparently Biden doesn’t know that that “death panel” is already in action with the new penalties against hospitals who receive back Medicare patients before a now ordered time limit.”

SueK:

“Raddatz is the former Martha Bradley and started out on Boston TV years ago; I didn’t like her then, and I don’t like her now. It was obvious who she was for, and against.

Wouldn’t it be nice to have either Beck, Hannity, Rush, Jeff Kuhner, or Savage (da bomb!) moderate one of these debates but apparently, Conservatives need not apply…the moderator’s job is restricted to moonbats, and moonbats only. I’m surprised Schmepaloupolous hasn’t been up there yet….”

observer:

“CNN Poll on debate winner: Ryan 48%, Biden 44%

I think Sharyl Attkisson, CBS, would have been a more intelligent and neutral moderator who would have the facts to challenge the Biden BS.”

“WOW! Read some of the comments about Biden here….even from the marxstream media:”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82313.html

“CNBC Poll: Paul Ryan Smokes Biden At Debate, 56% – 36%…”

“Number Of Times Biden Interrupted Ryan During 90-Minute Debate: 82”

oldsailor80:
“I still cannot understand why every person in the audience of the debate was NOT GIVEN a SCOOP SHOVEL as they entered the debate chambers. At least the spectators would have had something to dig their way out of the flood tide of BULLFECES pouring out of Bidens errant mouth. Wouldn’t it have been a more meaningful debate if all of the audience would have held up their scoop shovel everytime Biden said something. But would Biden have been intelligent enough to get the message?”

Biden and Chicago style politics.

From Citizen Wells August 9, 2011.

“Joseph Cari, 58, is one of the first notable figures to be sentenced of those who took plea deals and testified against the impeached Illinois governor. Blagojevich’s former chiefs of staff John Harris and Alonzo Monk are among those still awaiting sentencing.

Cari, who pleaded guilty to attempted extortion, told Judge Amy St. Eve just before she sentenced him that he took full responsibility for his actions and was sorry.

“I will live with the shame and pain for the rest of my life,” he said.

A former finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Cari described to jurors at Blagojevich’s first corruption trial how the then-governor boasted to him in 2003 about how governors could pressure companies desperate for state business for campaign cash.”

“Vice-presidential candidate Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del. (left), has been advised since 1984 by Joseph Cari (right), the Chicago lawyer and onetime mega-fundraiser who has been tied to the Antoin “Tony” Rezko patronage scandal.”

“Chicago lawyer and onetime mega-fundraiser Joseph Cari has advised Biden and his campaigns on and off since 1984, serving in posts as varied as a Senate adviser on crime to the Midwest Political Director for Biden’s aborted 1987 presidential bid. In 2005 Cari helped arrange private meetings for Biden with potential supporters, as the senator explored another run for the White House. He has also worked to raise money for Biden . “

“Cari admitted that in 2004 he helped a Rezko associate by making calls in what turned out to be a kickback scheme. The deal was an offshoot of a complex corruption scheme wrought by Antoin “Tony” Rezko , whose ties to Obama have vexed the White House hopeful . Cari has maintained he did not know the details of that scheme or any other.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/joseph-cari-sentenced-blagojevich-rezko-obama-biden-ties-cari-pressured-by-stuart-levine-john-harris-and-alonzo-monk-await-sentencing/

Birds of a feather flock together.

From Citizen Wells May 25, 2012.

From the FEC  May 25, 2012.
“ENFORCEMENT”

“MUR 6524

RESPONDENTS: Biden for President, Inc.; and Melvyn Monzack, in his official capacity as treasurer
COMPLAINANT: FEC-Initiated
SUBJECT: In the normal course of carrying out its supervisory responsibilities, the Commission found that Biden for President, Inc. (the Committee) and Monzack, in his official capacity as treasurer, did not retain adequate records to document the notification of contributors of the Committee’s presumptive redesignation of $1,092,899 in excessive contributions. Biden was a 2008 primary candidate for president.

DISPOSITION: The Commission entered into a conciliation agreement whereby Biden for President, Inc. and Monzack, in his official capacity as treasurer, agreed to pay a civil penalty of $50,000.”

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/biden-for-president-fined-50000-by-fec-2008-inadequate-records-over-one-million-dollars-excessive-contributions-melvyn-monzack-treasurer-breaking-news/

Biden and Obama have some of the same Chicago corruption connections.

Biden and Obama campaigns both violated FEC contribution rules.

Biden and Obama have both tried to silence Larry Sinclair.

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23 responses to “Biden Ryan debate response, October 12, 2012, Citizen Wells commenters nail it, Joe Biden and Obama have no record to run on, Chicago style politics

  1. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I am beginning to feel a ground swell as a result of the first two debates. The most poignant moment for me last night was Cong. Ryan’s definition of the beginning of life. Just watch the first minute of the following video with the “little bean” statement.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/11/biden-ryan-debate-abortion_n_1960078.html

  2. Crazy Old Joe Biden Laughing

  3. I think what we saw in that so-called debate last night was a perfect example with all its candor of how our government actually works. An excellent analogy.

    Consider Raddatz as the president, Joe Biden as the Senate and Paul Ryan as the House of Representatives.

    You have Paul Ryan presenting sound, logical reasoning. He offered options, solutions and choices for debate.

    You have Joe Biden literally laughing, smirking and interupting. He actually tried to cut off any position Ryan was trying to take.

    Then you have Martha Raddatz totally losing control of the debate, was not engaged in balancing the discussion and allowed Biden to talk over Ryan or she cut him off herself. I could almost hear Obama in the background repeating his cut off line to John McCain, “I won”. Therefore, its my way or the highway!

    Last night was a display of government gridlock in all its glory.

  4. Now when I read the Old Testament I can better understand those who cried out “how much longer, Lord, must we endure”!!

  5. Blowhard

  6. CW, I did it again with the facebook post. Please delete, thanks. bob

  7. I had to listen to bits and pieces of the debate on the radio while I was working. One thing I heard really disturbed me: Biden’s trying to downplay Iran’s getting nuclear weapons. After what I’ve discovered lately–Biden’s connection to, and his receiving campaign contributions from the pro-Iran lobby–this becomes very disturbing.

    I always wondered why Obama would choose such a political clown and constant gaffer to be his VP? I now believe it has to do with Biden’s buddying up to the pro-Iran lobby. It is obvious to me Obama is pro-Iran and has been buying time for Iran to develop nukes. Biden, controlled by the pro-Iran lobby, would have to play along.

    How much money has Biden actually received from this lobby? How far is he in bed with them? How can he live with himself? If I were Biden, I’d either come to the Lord fast and change my ways, or put a gun to my head and pull the trigger. As it stands, he is a national embarassment, if not an out and out traitor.

  8. If Biden claimed they had no idea what was going on in Libya (and didn’t listen to those on the ground then), then how is he soooo certain that we will “know” when Iran has the bomb! what a dufus!

    During the Vice Presidential debate on Thursday night, Joe Biden claimed, incorrectly, that Syria is five times larger than Libya.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/12/Biden-Shows-His-Foreign-Policy-Prowess-By-Claiming-Syria-Five-Times-Larger-Than-Libya

    Biden made the claim during one of the many exchanges on foreign policy, in which Biden was trying to paint the Romney/Ryan ticket as lacking in foreign policy gravitas.

    In his haste, Biden said Syria was “geographically” five times larger than Libya, explaining the reason the Obama administration had not intervened directly there. His full statement was that Syria “is a different country, it is five times as large geographically, it has one fifth the population.”

    During his delivery he caught himself and tried to salvage the situation by adding, “that is Libya.” But the statement was disconnected and didn’t do anything to clear up his claims about Syria. (It was reminiscent of another Biden outburst, when he blurted out “that’s in the east” while Rep. Paul Ryan was talking about fighting seasons in Afghanistan.)

    Moreover, Syria is approximately 71,500 sq. miles and Libya is is almost 680,000. That’s not simply a “five times as large” difference. That’s almost ten times, as the map above show.

  9. This is a good break down:

    By the Numbers: Moderator Raddatz Attacked Ryan 9 Times, Biden Once

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/12/By-the-Numbers-Moderator-Raddatz-Attacked-Ryan-9-Times-Biden-Once

  10. Biden Was Fighting For His Political Life

    Biden ‘s laughter was a matter of following orders. Remember who prepped Biden for this debate. Axeldouche–the 100% follower of the Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky. Among his rules that Barry’s cabal have used most often is RIDICULE.

    Biden was a disgrace to himself, to the Dems and America last night. He was out of control, angry, hostile, and out classed. His continuous Chesser cat grin and laughter was so out of place it suggested insanity while on the verge of a nervous breakdown. His actions were of a man who was told–“You better win this debate, or else.”

    Biden’s performance last night may well be a fore runner of what we can expect from B. Hussein next Tuesday. Barry and his cabal are beaten–defeated. They more so than anyone know they CANNOT WIN THIS ELECTION UNLESS THEY RESORT TO EVERY BIT OF ELECTION FRAUD THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH. Biden’s actions in that debate were that of a very frightened man. He was fighting for his political life!

  11. usapatriots-shout | October 12, 2012 at 11:58 am |

    Biden’s actions in that debate were that of a very frightened man. He was fighting for his political life!
    ********************************
    Usapatriots, I thought exactly the same thing – His behavior was a defense mechanism, because neither he nor Obama has a record to run on, so they have to resort to weird, bizarre behavior. In Biden’s case it was disrespect and hilarity so as to belittle Ryan, who politely stayed the course, in spite of it.

    I’ve never seen any debate where one was so blatantly rude to the other. Wow, Biden had too much joker juice and happy pills beforehand. And to think that this man is a heartbeat away from the presidency is very scary. He brought reproach on the office which he holds and should be ashamed, but he won’t be. We all know that.

    Furthermore, often it seemed as though this was a three-person debate with the way the moderator kept injecting herself into the discussion. Her
    debut was a big, disgusting failure, imho.

  12. Joe acted like a man who knew the fix was in and he couldn’t lose. Similar to Obama walking out of his debate thinking he had won.
    They act like they know they cannot lose, that’s scarey right there I don’t care who you are.

  13. Yes, Cabby, I thought she was weak and seemed uncertain as to what to do. It bothered me that she remained totally silent every time Biden interuppted which was a count of 82.

    This is the price of electing a man with no background, no experience and no substance. I pray with every heart beat he is thoroughly defeated Nov. 6, 2012. I also pray that the new people in power not forget Barry’s crimes and continue to investigate, then indict, then bring him to trial. By that time there should be enough judges who no longer fear Barry’s threats.

  14. Dean M. | October 12, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    I always wondered why Obama would choose such a political clown and constant gaffer to be his VP?
    ====================================
    Joe Biden on Oprah show, wife Jill said he was given choice of VP and Secretary of State.

    Why would Biden be given a CHOICE of Vice President or Secretary of State in the Obama administration? Isn’t Joe Biden’s son, the Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who issued an arrest warrant for Larry Sinclair, the man who did cocaine and had sexual encounters with Obama? Uh oh! Something sure smells fishy……..

  15. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Daily Mail Poll

    Joe Biden – 28%
    Paul Ryan – 68%

  16. WASHINGTON (USCCB) — The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) issued the following statement, October 12. Full text follows:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/10/12/catholic-bishops-issues-statement-slamming-biden-for-lying-about-hhs-mandate-during-debate/

    Last night, the following statement was made during the Vice Presidential debate regarding the decision of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to force virtually all employers to include sterilization and contraception, including drugs that may cause abortion, in the health insurance coverage they provide their employees:

    “With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact.”
    This is not a fact. The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain “religious employers.” That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to “Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital,” or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.

    HHS has proposed an additional “accommodation” for religious organizations like these, which HHS itself describes as “non-exempt.” That proposal does not even potentially relieve these organizations from the obligation “to pay for contraception” and “to be a vehicle to get contraception.” They will have to serve as a vehicle, because they will still be forced to provide their employees with health coverage, and that coverage will still have to include sterilization, contraception, and abortifacients. They will have to pay for these things, because the premiums that the organizations (and their employees) are required to pay will still be applied, along with other funds, to cover the cost of these drugs and surgeries.

    USCCB continues to urge HHS, in the strongest possible terms, actually to eliminate the various infringements on religious freedom imposed by the mandate.

  17. Thanks observer & rebel.

  18. Philo-Publius

    The VP Debate in Pictures

    ”If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet,”
    –Proverbs 29:9
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/10/the-debate-in-pictures.php

  19. Philo-Publius

    ATF Whistleblower Fired in Denny’s Parking Lot For Exposing Corruption
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/12/atf_whistleblower_fired_in_dennys_parking_lot

  20. Shocking Secrets and Verifiable Facts about Barack Obama the MSM Refuses to Report

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