Obama and attorneys unholy alliance, Obama makes Daniel Frawley attorney federal judge, Robert Bauer heads up 2012 election attorney legion, Rulers Of Darkness

Obama and attorneys unholy alliance, Obama makes Daniel Frawley attorney federal judge, Robert Bauer heads up 2012 election attorney legion, Rulers Of Darkness

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Why did Patrick Fitzgerald and the US Justice Department wait until December 2008 to arrest Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells

“Best case scenario: A high percentage of law school graduates, new attorneys, have already sold their soul to the devil or are in the process of doing so. Any auguments?”…Citizen Wells

“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the
authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual
forces of evil in the heavenly realms”…Ephesians 6:12

Recall some of the biggest controversies in national politics over the past 15 to 20 years. At the highest level in US government. Especially focus on the 2008 election cycle moving forward. Who comes to mind? What are their backgrounds?

Of course Bill Clinton was impeached and lost his law license. His wife, Hillary, another attorney, has now been tied to the fast and furious scandal.

John Edwards, one of the 2008 presidential contenders, cheated on his wife, who was fighting cancer, and was recently prosecuted.

And of course, the latest duo of scumbag attorneys, Barack and Michelle Obama both surrendered their law licenses. Barack lied on his IL bar application.

Obama and attorneys unholy alliance

Obama’s support from the legions of darkness was revealed in 2008.

Robert Bauer, who in 2008 as an attorney for Perkins Coie, helped Obama keep his records hidden in court challenges, who assisted Obama as general counsel beginning in 2009, has now been chosen to head up a legion of attorneys for the 2012 election.

From the AP June 26, 2012.

“Obama prepping thousands of lawyers for election”
“President Barack Obama’s campaign has recruited a legion of lawyers to be on standby for this year’s election as legal disputes surrounding the voting process escalate.

Thousands of attorneys and support staffers have agreed to aid in the effort, providing a mass of legal support that appears to be unrivaled by Republicans or precedent. Obama’s campaign says it is particularly concerned about the implementation of new voter ID laws across the country, the possibility of anti-fraud activists challenging legitimate voters and the handling of voter registrations in the most competitive states.”

“Former White House counsel Robert Bauer, who is organizing the Obama campaign’s legal deployment, said there is great concern this year because he believes GOP leaders around the county have pursued new laws to impede the right to vote.

“The Republican Party and their allies have mapped out their vote suppression campaign as a response to our success in 2008 with grass-roots organization and successful turnout,” Bauer said. “This is their response to defeat: changing the rules of participation so that fewer participate.””

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Patrick Fitzgerald, who delayed the prosecution of Rod Blagojevich until after the 2008 election, was given an assignment by Obama in 2009.

“US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who brought criminal fraud charges against former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, will stay on with the Obama administration”…Pete Williams, NBC

On July 30, 2009 Patrick Fitzgerald was named interim chairman of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee of U.S. Attorneys (AGAC).

Obama recently nominated Thomas Durkin for a federal judge position. You remember Durkin, one of Daniel Frawley’s attorneys. The Daniel Frawley who mentioned money that Tony Rezko gave to Obama in a sworn deposition.

From the Chicago Tribune May 21, 2012.

“Obama nominates Chicago lawyer for federal bench”

“On Monday, Obama nominated Thomas M. Durkin, who was a federal prosecutor here from 1980 until 1993, to fill one of three remaining vacant judicial seats on the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois.  A Downers Grove resident, Durkin, 58, has the support of both Democratic Sen. Richard Durbin and Republican Sen. Mark Kirk.”

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Of course you noted that the Tribune did not mention Daniel Frawley. As stated at Citizen Wells before, the Chicago Tribune has made a habit out of that.

However, the Chicago SunTimes did tie Durkin to Frawley and ultimately to Rezko and Obama.

From the Chicago SunTimes July 11, 2011.
“Frawley says in the deposition that on March 13, 2006, he was in the Dirksen Federal Building at 219 S. Dearborn, making a phone call to Rezko’s cell phone and secretly recording him when attorney Weaver walked in and interrupted him.

Also in the room at the time, according to Frawley, were: Assistant U.S. Attorney Jacqueline Stern; James “Sam” Dorger Jr., of the Illinois attorney general’s office’s public-integrity unit; an “FBI agent whose name I do not recall”; and Thomas Durkin, a criminal attorney also representing Frawley.

“I was on the phone, making a phone call to Tony Rezko,” Frawley says, according to the transcript. “I had a luncheon engagement with him. George was outside of the room where I was making the telephone call, and the purpose of the call was for me to keep my luncheon engagement with Tony Rezko and to go over and to record Tony Rezko.

“George saw and heard me on the phone, came running in and went like this [demonstrating]: Cut it,” drawing his hand across his throat.

Later in the deposition, Weaver’s lawyer, Daniel F. Konicek, asks Frawley about what specific information Weaver is supposed to have told Frawley to withhold from federal authorities.

“I’m assuming the information is about the payments made by Rezko to Obama, so we know we’re talking about the right conversation, right?” Konicek asks Frawley.

Frawley doesn’t answer. So Konicek presses him: “Am I correct it was about Obama being paid by Rezko?”

Frawley replies: “I’m not answering that question, based upon my attorney’s instructions.”

Nobody directly involved with the deposition — including Frawley and his lawyers, Weaver and his lawyers, and the FBI and U.S. attorney’s office — would comment.”

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And folks, let’s not forget the legion of US Justice Attorneys who have assisted Obama since January 2009 in keeping his records hidden at taxpayer expense.

Thanks to commenters Philo-Publius and bessie.

232 responses to “Obama and attorneys unholy alliance, Obama makes Daniel Frawley attorney federal judge, Robert Bauer heads up 2012 election attorney legion, Rulers Of Darkness

  1. OT, but….


    Stephanie Miller was friendly and the interview was not bad. Heraldo Rivera and Hugh Hewitt,on the other hand, were committing fraud on their show
    Posted on | June 26, 2012 |

    I was concerned about Stephanie Miller show, but she was not bad. She and her crue of 2 male co-hosts were friendly. She is a comedian and she is on the left, so she understandably threw a few curved balls, but it was not bad.

    I provided her with the DVD and with all the info about my cases, Obama’s fraudulent SSN and BC. The segment was only 20 minutes, so I had limited time.

    The show was both on radio and TV. If you recorded it, send me the clip, I will post it.

    As I drove home, I listened to KABC and spoke on the air with Heraldo Rivera and Hugh Hewitt. I have to say that party operatives and establishment puppets cause more damage, than people on the left. Michael Savage talks about it as well.

    Rivera has a lot of listeners. When I called, I told Rivera and Hewitt that recently sheriff Joe Arpaio issued a sworn affidavit, where he confirmed results of 4 years of my work, that Obama is using a Connecticut SSN, which was never assigned to him, a forged BC and a forged Selective service certificate. According to recent SB1070 Obama can be arrested by Arpaio on suspicion of being an illegal alien, due to his use of forged papers and being deported.

    Rivera immediately freaked out and said that talking about it makes us look crazy. Hewitt said that it was proven that Obama was born in HI and they cut me off and did not let me respond. Please, call the KABC and whatever networks are paying and feeding these establishment puppets and demand that they end this pattern of journalistic malpractice and elections fraud. Listeners are entitled to get truthful information, they are defrauding the public. They are causing more damage, than the left wing media, as they pretend to be on our side and are used as controlled conservatives by the establishment to defame us.

  2. President Justin Bieber? Attorney Larry Klayman argues that dismissing his client’s case based on standing will give rise to the possibility that “even Justin Bieber, the 18-year-old, Canadian born entertainer, could become President of the United States”.


  3. Either White House Involved or Executive Privilege Doesn’t Apply

    Read Darrell Issa’s Recent Letter, Information & Videos Here:


    Fact Sheet About Fast & Furious:

    Click to access 6-11-12-Contempt-Vote-FACT-SHEET.pdf


    Predictable: Civil Rights “Leaders” Pull Race Card to Defend Eric Holder

    Katie Pavlich
    News Editor, Townhall
    Jun 26, 2012 01:40 PM EST

    “When you have no facts to base an argument on, pull the race card.”


    First of all, two can play the race game.

    If Holder and his race card cronies like Sharpton want to play the race game, let’s play.

    Let’s talk about the 300+ dead Mexicans as a result of the Holder Justice Department’s Operation Fast and Furious.

    Even Holder is willing to admit more innocents will be murdered as a result of this program.

    Second, the Attorney General can be replaced, Holder isn’t the only guy who can “prevent” what Nancy Pelosi sees as the suppression of the minority vote. In fact, you could argue Obama is keeping Holder around to sue states for Voter I.D. laws while turning a blind eye to voter fraud.

    Third, this isn’t about voting, this is about getting to the bottom a bloody scandal that President Obama, Eric Holder, Nancy Pelosi and now Rev. Al and others are more than happy to cover up.

    Liberals are trying desperately, as they always do, to turn Holder into the victim here, when he isn’t a victim at all, he’s the problem.

    They’re also trying desperately to throw out a distraction like voting that has nothing to do with the Fast and Furious scandal in order to take as much attention away from the facts as possible.

    Fact: Holder received multiple Fast and Furious memos dated July and August 2010, yet says he only knew about the program for a “few weeks” in May 2011.

    Fact: Holder has changed his testimony over and over again under oath.

    Fact: Holder refused to turn over more documents related to the program.

    Fact: Documents Holder has turned over are either partially or completely redacted.

    Fact: Holder’s number two man at DOJ, Lanny Breuer, approved six Fast and Furious wiretap applications, yet Holder still claims his senior officials knew nothing of the program while it was active.

    Fact: Holder claims he ended Fast and Furious. The program ended in December 2010, yet he says he didn’t know about the program until May 2011.

    Fact: Eric Holder, who is black, is one of the most powerful men in the world.”

    See The Article & Video Here: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/06/26/predictable_civil_rights_leaders_pull_race_card_to_defend_eric_holder

  4. Darrell Issa’s June 25, 2012 Letter in PDF Re: “Obama” & Executive Privilege, Holder, the DOJ, the ATF, & Fast & Furious

    Click to access oversight@mail.house_.gov_20120625_230445.pdf

  5. CW, question…..wasn’t there some background surrounding Bauer leaving his White House position to become Obama’s “personal” atty? I thought some were saying that he was realizing that the evidence (like the phony BC) was becoming too convincing and he wanted to separate himself from the obviously damaging connection to this fraud. But now he’s back in there….but maybe at more of a distance??

  6. Issa Hammers Obama on ‘Fast and Furious’

    Suggests pResident May Have Managed Program That Killed Border Agent

    “(NATIONAL JOURNAL) — The chairman of the House oversight committee investigating White House involvement in the botched “gun-walking” program that led to the 2010 death of U.S. Border Patrol agent accused President Obama of downplaying his involvement in the program or intentionally obstructing the Congress’ inquiry.

    Rep. Darrel Issa’s letter to Obama, obtained on Tuesday, questioned the legal basis of the White House move to withhold subpoenaed documents from the Government Reform and Oversight Committee under protections afforded Obama by executive privilege.

    The Justice Department denied Issa’s committee the subpoenaed documents last week, prompting the GOP-led committee to vote along party lines to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. The full House is scheduled to consider the contempt citation this week.”


    * * * *

    Issa Letter Hammers Obama on Operation ‘Fast and Furious’

    By Major Garrett
    Updated: June 26, 2012 | 12:56 p.m.
    June 26, 2012 | 8:09 a.m.

    “Either you or your most senior advisers were involved in managing Operation Fast & Furious and the fallout from it…or, you are asserting a Presidential power that you know to be unjustified solely for the purpose of further obstructing a congressional investigation,” Issa wrote.

    “To date, the White House has steadfastly maintained that it has not had any role in advising the Department with respect to the congressional investigation. The surprising assertion of executive privilege raised the question of whether that is still the case.”

    Issa’s committee has subpoenaed documents it believes relevant to Justice and White House deliberations that led to a false Justice Department submission—in Holder’s name—in February 2011 that Fast and Furious was not a gun walking operation.

    The committee had been told by whistle-blowers that Fast and Furious allowed large quantities of AK-47 firearms and variants to “walk” into Mexico. Two of those firearms were discovered at the scene where Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was killed near Rio Rico, Az., on Dec. 14, 2010.”


  7. On a side note, I heard today on Fox Cable that Obama told Dem Senators they will not be getting any money from him (not sure if he meant Presidential campaign money or DNC money) for their respective campaigns.

    The reporter said that those running for the Senate seats are promptly in scramble mode.

    Hardy Har Har!

  8. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-26/u-s-said-to-make-arrests-in-global-bank-data-theft-operation.html
    U.S. Said to Make Arrests in Global Bank Data Theft Operation
    By Patricia Hurtado – Jun 26, 2012 12:35 PM GMT-0500
    U.S. agents have arrested dozens of people on four continents as part of a global sting operation targeting data theft from financial instituitions, according to a person familiar with the matter.
    Dozens of arrests were made in an undercover operation by the U.S. that prevented hundreds of millions of dollars in losses from illegal computer access, said the person, who declined to be identified because they weren?t authorized to speak publicly on the matter. Hundreds of thousands of credit card users could have been affected as well as dozens of corporations and educational institutions, the person said.
    As part of the probe, Joshua Hicks and two other people were arrested in New York today by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and charged in the two-year-long probe into illegal computer hacking. Hicks, of Manhattan, is scheduled to appear in federal court in New York later today, according to court records.
    Jerika Richardson, a spokeswoman for Preet Bharara?s office, declined to comment. The matter was reported earlier by the Associated Press.

  9. Obama’s “Truth Team” is trying to take down Douglas Hagmann from Northeast Intelligence Network. Who’s next? You CW?

  10. bob strauss

    Hoyer: Some Dems Will Vote To Hold Holder In Contempt For Fast And Furious

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Now that the politically potent National Rifle Association is keeping score, some Democrats may join House Republicans if there’s a vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress in a dispute over documents related to a botched gun-tracking operation.

    The chief Democratic House head counter, Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, declined to tell reporters how many defections he expected, but acknowledged that some in his party would consider heeding the NRA’s call for a “yes” vote.


  11. bob strauss

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    See more.

  12. SueQ; great article and really scary! but not surprising…

  13. bob strauss

    Chicago Crime Rate Skyrockets under Emanuel

    The murder rate has risen 38 percent in the city of Chicago in 2012, according to the New York Times:

    Mr. Emanuel listed safer streets among his top three priorities when he became mayor a year ago, but Chicago, the nation’s third-largest city, is now testing that promise. Homicides are up by 38 percent from a year ago, and shootings have increased as well, even as killings have held steady or dropped in New York, Los Angeles and some other cities. As of June 17, 240 people had been killed here this year, mostly in shootings, 66 more deaths than occurred in the same period in 2011.


  14. citizenwells

    Bauer is in deep. Of course he is married to Anita (love Mao) Dunn.
    These attorneys, particularly left wing radicals, think they are untouchable & above the law.

  15. BO is setting up the november election voter fraud issue as a pretense
    to declare martial law , void the elections, and stay in power. Romney like McCain are gutless /were gutless candidates. If Romney had a clue he would immediately challenge obumbo’s eligibility after DNC nominates him and bring court actions against him in all fifty states. If Romney doesn’t have standing then nobody does or will. Depends how badly Romney really believes this election is about soul of america and how much soul does Romney really have ?

  16. A caller to Drudge today made a comment that made pretty good sense. He said that Arizona framed their case to the Supreme Court wrongly….he said that it really wasn’t a case of “immigration”…rather it was a case of invasion of the state by illegals none of whom should be classified as “immigrants” because they simply are not. Since it is invasion the state by law has every right to defend itself. That doesn’t need any permission by the Feds for arresting such invaders who have nothing to do with being immigrants. Thus they don’t need the Feds to even be involved in this sovereign state protection matter.

  17. Daverg……………..
    If court actions was brought even in 57 states there will be no forward movement to any of the actions,as log as the Judges are in Soetoro’s hip pocket. We must find another way. There is another way but PATHETICALLY FEW Americans have the GONADS to UNITE and DO IT, and at the same time take out the A$$HOLES in both the HOUSE and the Senate. One of whom is MISS Harriet Reid.



  19. This is a very informative read and explains somewhat why we are where we are today!

    ‘Americans are not blind. They just do not really know what Marxism is’

    WND: Many Americans would roll their eyes at the phrase “Marxism in America,” even though with every passing year we are becoming more and more Marxist. Why are so many Americans so blind?

    Pacepa: They are not blind. They just do not really know what Marxism is. Few Americans will roll their eyes hearing the world “Nazism.” Why? Because the hideous crimes committed by Nazism were publicly exposed and their main authors were publicly tried and hanged.

    Unfortunately, there was no trial of Communism, although this Marxist heresy had killed 10 times more people than Nazism killed. Nazi archives have been opened to the public, who could learn about Nazism’s atrocities from the horse’s mouth. Most Soviet archives are still sealed.

    Read more:


  20. 7 Reasons Americans Are So Complacent About Our Country’s Impending Bankruptcy

    John Hawkins
    June 25, 2012

    “America is on track to go bankrupt. Just like Greece. The signs are all around us. We’ve lost our AAA credit rating. Trillion dollar deficits are the new normal. The Fed is buying 61% of our own debt. Barack Obama’s 10 year budget will leave Americans with “more debt than has been accumulated by all previous Presidents in American history combined.” Nobody on the Left or Right seems to believe we’ll ever pay off all of the money we owe. Life as we know it is very close to ending and yet Americans seem to be infected with a tragic stoicism. Like turkeys being led to the slaughter, most Americans seem content to put their necks down on the butcher’s block and wait for the ax to fall. There are reasons for this puzzling inactivity in the face of an avertable catastrophe.

    1) They’re being misled by people with bad motives: What do you think would happen to Paul Krugman if he were to tell everyone that he is still a liberal, but the Tea Party and Paul Ryan are right about the deficit and Barack Obama and the Democratic Party are wrong? His column at the New York Times would be gone within six months. Do you think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would continue leading their caucuses after 2012 if they insist on serious deficit reduction? Not a chance. What about a Democrat running in a liberal district who talks like Jim DeMint on deficits in a primary up against another Democrat who wants more spending? Who do you think would win? The big spender, right? Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this country whose personal welfare depends on encouraging as much government spending as possible and even if the country goes bust in the process, they’re hoping to have enough money in the bank to be able to move somewhere else by then anyway.


    7) They don’t see how it will affect them: Most Americans don’t have the slightest clue how a default would change their lives for the worse. They don’t understand that it would lead to another Depression, their life savings could become worthless almost overnight, their taxes would skyrocket, their standard of living would drastically decrease, Medicare and Social Security checks could stop, and we could have widespread disorder. In Greece, some government workers haven’t been paid in months, government road projects are being abandoned, healthy businesses can’t get credit, and medicine is in short supply. Unless something changes, Americans won’t have to imagine what that will be like because we’ll be living it soon enough.”
    See The Entire Article Here:


  21. bob strauss

    Obama, Why Don’t You Just Resign?

    Barack Hussein Obama has decided that in order to punish Arizona for having dared enforce American immigration laws, he has ordered his federal agencies to basically stop working with Arizona’s law enforcement agencies concerning illegal immigrants. Attorney General Eric Holder Jr has also made it known as the nations chief law enforcement officer that he too is only going to selectively enforce immigration laws that he personally likes. More to the point, Holder will only enforce what is beneficial to his boss’s re-election campaign. If I’m not mistaken, this attitude by both men is blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL and falls under the heading of “high crimes and misdemeanors’, an IMPEACHABLE offense!


  22. The Other Eric Holder Scandal
    Posted by Ryan Mauro On June – 26 – 2012

    U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is in the spotlight after the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted to hold him in contempt because he is refusing to provide documents related to the Fast and the Furious scandal. But there’s another scandal you should know about. For over one year, he has refused to hand over documents about the Muslim Brotherhood network in the U.S.

    Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), vice chairman of the House Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security, confronted Holder about the matter on Thursday, June 21. Rep. Gohmert wants Congress to have access to documents from the trial of the Holy Land Foundation, the largest terrorism financing trial in U.S. history. Five Foundation officials were found guilty of funding Hamas and evidence introduced by the federal government shows it was set up by the Muslim Brotherhood’s secret “Palestine Committee” in the U.S.


  23. Bob Strauss; ..he behaves like he owns the United States and his is cutting off Arizona because he doesn’t like her leaders…He is a spoiled child..

  24. Bessie | June 27, 2012 at 10:01 am |

    Bob Strauss; ..he behaves like he owns the United States and his is cutting off Arizona because he doesn’t like her leaders…He is a spoiled child..
    He is betting on the “system” being too cumbersome to deal with his lawlessness. Hopefully they will arrest his criminal ass, and sort it out later.

  25. No Deal: Holder Still Refusing to Turn Over Fast and Furious Docs, Contempt Vote Moving Forward

    Katie Pavlich
    News Editor, Townhall
    Jun 27, 2012 07:45 AM EST

    “Yesterday staff members of House Overisight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa and Speaker John Boehner met with Attorney General Eric Holder staff and White House officials in an effort to come up with a last minute deal to prevent a full House contempt of Congress vote from moving forward on Thursday. Unsurprisingly, Holder didn’t instruct his staff to turn over the long requested documents and at this point, the vote will move forward. His staff did however turn over 30 documents that didn’t produce any new information about the fatal Fast and Furious operation.”


    “Schultz also took a shot at Issa for saying Fast and Furious was used to push gun control, although there is plenty of evidence to support Issa’s statements on the issue.

    As Holder and Obama continue their refusal to work with Issa to prevent contempt, Thursday’s vote is looking more bipartisan. Yesterday, Utah Democrat Jim Matheson said he will vote to hold Holder in contempt due to his refusal to comply with the Congressional investigation into the scandal and continued stonewalling. Issa has said he believes at least 31 Democrats will vote with Republicans for contempt.

    “It just compounds the tragedy when both sides play politics instead of releasing the facts. The Terry family, the public and Congress deserve answers,” Matheson said. “Sadly, it seems that it will take holding the attorney general in contempt to communicate that evasiveness is unacceptable.”

    See The Entire Article Here:


  26. “”As Ann Dunham engaged in nefarious activities with Frank Marshall Davis, who was likely involved in pornography and prostitution, why would she bring 10 year-old Barry back from Indonesia and tell her father something to the effect of, ‘I’m going back to Indonesia, but please take young Barry to Frank’s house a few times a week,'” he said. ”

    attached is from WND…WHY would a woman ask her father to take her son to the house of the man who took and sold nude photo’s of her?

  27. Bessie, I think Obama is trying to isolate Arizona, to lessen the impact of Arpaio’s effort to expose Obama’s forged BC, SS card,and Social Security fraud. Obama is getting desperate.

  28. Starla | June 27, 2012 at 10:25 am |
    Starla, Monday night Rachael Maddow went ballistic spouting the Issa narrative about Fast and Furious. She tried to make it sound like a fantasy but failed. Try to find that video, you will be amazed at their desperation.

  29. Team Obama’s Brother Sharpton Moment

    Michelle Malkin
    June 27, 2012

    “Attorney General Eric Holder’s people have no shame. After months of stonewalling, misinformation and petulant disregard for the victims of the Fast and Furious gunwalking scandal, President Obama’s Justice Department is hiding behind the most despicable race-card demagogues on the planet. “Post-racial” America never looked so bitter, clingy and cowardly.

    At a Tuesday press conference in Washington, D.C., human shield Al Sharpton condemned the upcoming House vote on a contempt motion against Holder as “reckless” and “morally reprehensible.” Yes, the infamous hate-crimes hoaxer, cop-basher and riot incitement specialist is now the self-appointed sheriff of Capitol Hill morality. A Huffington Post report hyping Sharpton’s protection racket decried the contempt citation as an “assault on minority rights.” In typical race-baiting style, Sharpton told the leftwing website: “I’m not saying that this is because Holder is black, and I’m not calling (Republicans) racists. I’m saying what they’re doing has a racial effect.”

    See The Entire Article Here:

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  30. Philo-Publius

    Allahu Akbar’:Muslims Allegedly ‘Stoning’ Christian Protesters in…Michigan

  31. Starla…………..
    It is really a sad state of affairs when a piece of human GARBAGE like Al Sharpton is allowed to speak anywhere. He is a NITWIT,and less than human sort of MORON. He can’t even use intelligent grammar. Yet a HELLUVA lot of people think he is a great man. Proves that the HELLUVA lot of people are the stupidest people on earth……otherwise they would see through human garbage like Al Sharpton,and Jesse Jackson to name just two.

  32. Philo Publius…………..
    When some a$$holes start throwing stones at people it is time for the people to RETURN THE FIRE………with FIREARMS, along with a few explosive surprises for accent! Dearborn is SATURATED with a MUSLIM CROWD who have infiltrated Huntington Hills,and several other upscale communities in the Detroit area. They are like a slow oozing slime which soon inundates the entire area.

  33. Video: Jon Stewart Summarizes Fast & Furious and Slams Obama’s Executive Privilege.

    2nd Amendment
    Jon Stewart hilariously compares Obama’s use of executive priviledge to the Bush administration.

    Jon Stewart Slams Obama Executive Privilege, Fast & Furious, and Eric Holder

  34. Tips from Wikipedia :
    ***When questioned about weapons regulations during a news conference to announce the arrest of Mexican drug cartel members, Holder stated that the Obama administration would seek to re-institute the expired Assault Weapons Ban, which he strongly supports.
    ***By nearly all accounts, Holder wanted to send a message that he would not tolerate any behavior he deemed to be prosecutorial misconduct.[46]
    ***In May 2010 Holder expressed “concerns” about “Arizona’s tough new immigration law”, saying that it might “lead to racial profiling”. Holder was criticized for his testimony during a House Judiciary Committee hearing, when he said that he had “not read” the Arizona law and that he had formed his opinions on the basis of news reports.(now, that’s some scary facts)
    ***Holder planned to prosecute people in California if they possess marijuana even if Californian voters passed a proposition legalizing marijuana..(but turn head to billions worth drugs brought across Mexican border through CIA)

  35. Jon Stewart Slams Obama Executive Privilege, Fast & Furious, and Eric Holder

  36. Seaque…………..
    Here is a question for you. How the hell can an ALLEGED,AND LEGALLY UNPROVEN POTUS ASSUME EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE WHEN IT ISN’T EVEN LEGALLY PROVEN THAT HE IS THE POTUS. Let him first PROVE that he is the POTUS then we will talk about the so called executive privilege.

  37. Bessie | June 27, 2012 at 10:29 am |
    *** notice the wnd didnt say…why would a MOTHER ask her father to take her son to the house of the man who took and sold nude photo’s of her?
    Bingo..who knows who this fraud’s mother is??

  38. Sharpton told the leftwing website: “I’m not saying that this is because Holder is black, and I’m not calling (Republicans) racists. I’m saying what they’re doing has a racial effect.”

    LOL…well, he should know!!!

  39. Starla……………
    Don’t look for SHAME , or DECENCY from people like Holder,or Soetoro, when they don’t even have those words in their respective vocabularies. Such are the ways of Chicago style CRIMINALS.

  40. Celente: The 2nd American Revolution STARTS NOW!

  41. Jay Jay……………………..
    I for one am pretty well convinced that Soetoro’s mother is in fact Stanley Ann Dunham. I think that the researchers have that part of Soetoro’s family history correct.

  42. Celente Launches 2nd American Revolution: Puts His Money Where His Heart Is

    KINGSTON, NY, 26 June 2012 – Gerald Celente’s forecast is clear – The 2nd American Revolution is on the horizon. And this American Patriot has done more than just sign up to join the fight, he’s established its headquarters.

    Inspired by its potent symbolic value, Celente has purchased the 1750s “Franz Roggen House,” a stately stone colonial set on the northeast corner of John and Crown Streets, in Kingston’s historic Stockade District. This is the only intersection in the United States that boasts pre-revolutionary stone buildings on all four corners.

    “Kingston played a critical role in the 1st American Revolution and was, for a short while, the capitol of New York State,” observes Celente. “Here is where I’m taking my stand to start the 2nd American Revolution.”

    “The 1st American Revolution was fought with armies and bullets,” says Celente. “The 2nd American Revolution will not cost lives and limbs; it will be fought with mind and spirit.”

    Celente is unequivocal: “America’s democratic political system is degenerate, corrupt and ineffective. It cannot be patched up or papered over. Rather, it must be renewed, revived, and reconfigured from the ground up,” he says. “The potential for positive and sweeping change is there. It can happen, but it has to be made to happen.”

    How? First, “We the people” must be made aware of the urgent need for real change. Then “we” must learn to accept and embrace the concept of a full-scale intellectual revolution. “The time is ripe, Americans are ‘mad as hell and not going to take it anymore,’” says Celente, who predicts that the November election will be the turning point. “The polls prove it. There is little enthusiasm for either candidate and, once again, Americans will be left with no choice other than the choice of the lesser of two evils.

    “Stay Home, Don’t Vote!”

    Celente’s Revolutionary call to arms begins with a voter’s strike. “Stay Home, Don’t Vote” is his campaign slogan. “People have been conned into believing that if you don’t vote you’ve lost the right to complain. That’s political baloney,” fumes Celente. “The true case is exactly the opposite. This is a two-headed, one party system. Republican or Democrat, considering their track records, it’s clear nothing can be expected from either Presidential candidate other than the perpetuation of the destructive and criminal policies that have brought America to its current state of perpetual crisis and socioeconomic decline. Ditto for Congress.”

    “What self-respecting person would cast a vote for a lesser of two evils?” asks Celente. “Not only is it immoral and undignified, it’s destructive. Lesser or greater, evil is evil. By supporting one evil or the other, the voter becomes an accessory to the crime. Only a true intellectual revolution can restore dignity, trust, morality, decency and compassion.”

    “Anything else is just more of the same. Stay Home, Don’t Vote!”

    As far as Celente is concerned, “We can change course, restore our country and regain our independence. United, the American people have the power to prevail and create a more ‘perfect Union.’”


  43. oldsalt79 | June 27, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    Here is a question for you. How the hell can an ALLEGED,AND LEGALLY UNPROVEN POTUS ASSUME EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE WHEN IT ISN’T EVEN LEGALLY PROVEN THAT HE IS THE POTUS. Let him first PROVE that he is the POTUS then we will talk about the so called executive privilege.

    Old Salt, because the republicans and the dems and congress all look the other way and allow it.


  44. Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Follow the Ideology

    Published on Jun 22, 2012 by Pajamasmedia

    “President Obama personally inserted himself into the Fast & Furious gun walking scandal after he extended executive privilege over certain DOJ documentation. Was the Fast & Furious a botched scandal, or a deliberate effort to undermine the Second Amendment? Find out as Bill Whittle explores the ideological motives behind the Fast & Furious scandal.”

    A Comment Under This Video:

    “[…] Holder is withholding the evidence. Even what has been released is redacted by 90%. Now we know that Obama is involved in the cover-up as well! Makes you wonder what role he played? Why would Holder and Obama withhold evidence that is not incriminating? […].

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  45. seaque | June 27, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    Seaque, do what YOU want to, but NO PERSON tells me what to do on election day!

    Furthermore, anyone with “smarts” would be wise not to listen to somebody by the name of Gerald Celente, who is the subject of your prior post.

    Nowadays people are so willing to listen to anyone who has something to say before using their own heads and conscience.

  46. Won’t it be a hoot when America finds out their current president isn’t even a citizen?

    I wonder how the democrat liberal base will explain that one.I also wonder who will go to jail and who will skate.

    Coming soon to your living room!

  47. marmar4life

    I thought Sheriff Joe was supposed to have a presser mid month. It’s now the end of the month and nothing. What is he waiting for???

  48. RMINNC………….
    You are right on the money………there has yet to be any concrete,and/or certifiable proof that the ALLEGED POTUS is EVEN AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, yet NOBODY seems to even CARE. My question is…Why the hell hasn’t ANYBODY in Congress started drafting the IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES of Soetoro? After all he has virtually admitted his involvement in F&Fby attempting to invoke Executive Privilege, which also means that he is an ACCESSORY to murder! He has yet to prove that he even IS a LEGAL POTUS, let alone take a so called EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE …………. Now Soetoro is the time for you to PROVE your LEGAL NAME,RANK and SERIAL NUMBER………OTHERWISE GET THE HELL OUT OF THE W.H……LITERALLY!

  49. Way to go DOC……30 years of hounding these THUGS to bring out the truth is finally going to happen…..

    This morning, the U.S. House of Representatives Oversight and Government Reform Committee unanimously passed Ron Paul’s latest “Audit the Fed” bill, H.R. 459.


  50. OldSalt…..

    If Soetoro didn’t apply for citizenship when he returned from Indonesia…


    If his mother did apply to regain his citizenship, then at best, he is a NATURALIZED citizen….

    Either way, the bastard loses…so does America..

  51. CabbyAZ…………….
    Right on the Money Cabby. There doesn’t seem to be an over abundance of people in our midst who use REASON/and or SIMPLE LOGIC any more………..they seem to be predisposed to listen to anything and/or everything . This is not to say that Celente isn’t right. But even if he is right,I like you intend to do what I believe is right……not what somebody tells me to do. I have been on earth 80 years, and have always followed my own beliefs throughout my life. You pretty much know my history. You be the judge. BTW my dear friend who was a retired Superior Court Judge has passed away………. I now feel awfully alone.

  52. Folks, while we are occupied with other important issues, there is something of great consequence going on in the U.S. Senate!

    It has to do with ratification by the Senate of Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST).

    20 Republican Senators Have Not Gone on Record as Opposing A United Nations Global Taxation Scheme That Was Intentionally Designed To Hand Over Our Sovereignty To The Third World.
    (from an e-mail today):
         Yes, we’re talking about the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST)… a United Nations scheme that would impose a “global tax” on us and – as former-President Ronald Reagan said – force us to hand over “sovereign control of two-thirds of the Earth’s surface over to the Third World.”
    Only seven more are needed to defeat LOST, and out of the twenty listed, I selected the following to personally contact. (The ones omitted are those that seem to be hopelessly RINOS) This is something that others here may want to do, also.

    Sen. Lamar Alexander
    Sen. Thad Cochran
    Sen. Bob Corker
    Sen. Charles Grassley
    Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson
    Sen. Mark Kirk
    Sen. John McCain
    Sen. Mitch McConnell
    Sen. Rob Portman

    This doesn’t mean that the above are going to vote FOR it, but so far they have not signed onto Sen. James DeMint’s petition. (He has 27 so far pledged to vote AGAINST it.)

    We need to give the above a big nudge!

  53. Philo-Publius

    CNN: Don’t be nosy about Fast and Furious

    We are a nosy country.

    Though to be fair, it’s not entirely our fault. Between the 24/7 news cycle, social media and reality TV, we have been spoon fed other people’s private business for so long we now assume it’s a given to know everything. And if there are people who choose not to disclose, they must be hiding something. Being told that something’s “none of your business” is slowly being characterized as rude, and if such a statement is coming from the government, it seems incriminating. Times have changed. Yet, not everything is our business. And in the political arena, there are things that should be and need to be kept quiet.

    …You see, freedom isn’t entirely free.
    It also isn’t squeaky clean.

    And sometimes the federal government deems it necessary to get its hands a little dirty in the hopes of achieving something we generally accept as good for the country.

    By the numbers: Fast and Furious

  54. Philo…

    Anyone who listens to those bobble heads at CNN are just as wacky as the idiot talking heads who bring forth that garbage they call fair and balanced news…

    Personally, I don’t listen to ANY main stream media news now….there is no difference in CBS,NBC, ABC.PBS, or Fox.

  55. Old Salt,,
    Awww, I’m so sorry to hear about the great loss of your dear friend, and I can fully understand how lonely it gets at a time like this. You have my deepest sympathy, faithful Patriot and Warrior!

    I agree completely with your 1:42 pm post re. why no one in Congress has the guts to do what should have been done months ago – impeachment.
    Oh, I know the argument that since he seems to be ineligible and a usurper that impeachment doesn’t really apply, BUT for goodness sakes, let’s start somewhere. After all, Congress won’t acknowledge his apparent ineligibility, so let them go about removal with the way the Constitution requires. The ball has to be started rolling and SOON.

    I read today that Sen. Jon Kyl is quoted as saying that impeachment is always a possibility, or something to that effect, when he was asked about Obama’s latest edict that the feds will no longer assist AZ in the handling of illegals. LET’S DO IT THEN!!! I say that we are already “a dollar short and a day late.” (My thought for the day – 😆 )




    “TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Just make sure Barack Obama meets the requirements of the Constitution to be president.

    That’s essentially what a lawsuit pending before a Florida judge is seeking, according to attorney Larry Klayman, who has proposed to Judge Terry Lewis an order the judge could adopt, excerpt, or reject.”


    “Florida’s election statutes provide broad protections for voters to ensure that the integrity of the election system is beyond reproach. One of the laws allows voters to challenge the nomination of a candidate who is not eligible for the office he is seeking.”

    See The Entire Article Here:


  57. A little addition:


    Attorney asks judge to have Obama vetted
    Decision expected soon in constitutional fight over ballot eligibility

    In a proposed memorandum opinion and order Klayman has just submitted to the judge, he asks for a determination that Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner “has an affirmative duty to determine the eligibility of defendant Obama before his name is placed on the Florida primary or general election ballots, or before the presidential electors for the state of Florida cast their votes after the 2012 general election should he ‘win’ the Florida presidential election.”

    Klayman suggests that the court issue “preliminary and permanent injunctions
    preventing the certification, by the Florida Election Canvassing Commission, of defendant Obama as Democratic Party nominee for the 2012 presidential primary and Florida general elections, as well as preliminary and permanent injunctions preventing the placement of defendant Obama’s name on the 2012 Florida presidential primary and general election ballots and with regard to the presidential electors voting for defendant Obama should he ‘win’ the Florida general election for the office of the president of the United States.”

    The court should “issue a writ of mandamus requiring that the Florida Secretary of State adhere to the Florida and U.S. Constitutions and verify the eligibility of defendant Obama for the office of the president of the United States, or rule that the failure to do so is an abuse of discretion, arbitrary and capricious and contrary to law,” the proposal recommends.

  58. Philo-Publius 2:19 pm
    Thanks so much for that link re. Kyl’s statements. It is even worse than I thought. Here goes another letter. Ughhh!!
    Imagine his saying, “…….Now if it’s bad enough and if there are shenanigans involved in it, then of course impeachment is always a possibility. But I don’t think at this point anybody is talking about that,” added the Arizona Republican.

    Yikes! Where has Kyl been? I guess he is so out of touch with the real America – the likes of you and me – that he doesn’t have a clue as to what is going on outside the beltway. OR, he doesn’t want to know. That sounds more like it.

  59. Too much!!!

    Obama excludes 11 million Hispanics from his dinner table

    President Barack Obama is excluding people who lack citizenship or residency from his fundraising dinner tables, even though he is also inviting at least 800,000 illegal immigrants to compete against Americans for the few available jobs.


    But his solicitations profile would-be entrants to exclude those who might damage Obama’s popularity with critical voting blocs, including blue collar swing-voters and African-Americans.

    The dinner table “promotion [is] open only to U.S. citizens, or lawful permanent U.S. residents who are legal residents of 50 United States, District of Columbia and Puerto Rico and 18 or older,” said the legalese in a June 26 solicitation.

    That exclusion bars roughly 11 million Hispanics who are in the country illegally, as well as many Asians, Africans and Europeans who do not have residency or citizenship.

    Obama’s fellow progressives have long argued that any exclusion of illegal immigrants is bigotry.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/27/obama-excludes-11-million-hispanics-from-his-lunch-table/#ixzz1z1MPajox

  60. Philo-Publius

    Cabby – AZ, they are all out of touch with the real America and that is part of the problem with constituents like us getting through to them. We are only needed for votes…after that, the politicians think they know what is best for us.

  61. ‘Audit the Fed’ bill advances in the House
    The House oversight committee voted Wednesday to demand a broad audit of the Federal Reserve System by congressional investigators — a major move that lawmakers said is designed to bring accountability to the murky workings of the independent central bank.

    The bill was sponsored by Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas Republican who turned the push for an audit into a powerful presidential campaign slogan and whose criticism of the Fed’s monetary policy drew hundreds of thousands of voters into the political process.

    It passed by voice vote, signaling the growing sense among lawmakers that the time has come for a full review.

  62. Ron Paul Floor Speech on Syria June 27, 2012

  63. bob strauss

    After US v Arizona The United States Will Have to Change Its Name


    The main-stream-media reported yesterday’s U.S. v. Arizona Supreme Court ruling as a partial victory for Arizona. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Court’s ruling destroyed the United States. This is not hyperbole. The United States quite literally no longer exists.

    The name, “United States” describes a nation that consisted of several sovereign States, combined by a Constitution which granted limited powers to a central government. That nation no longer exists because the former States are sovereign no longer.

    Liberty Legal Foundation

  64. bob strauss

    Crackheads for Obama

    So, Jarrett thinks that only Blacks do Crack Cocaine? Wonder if she thinks the same about Fried Chicken and Watermelon? — Kickass Conservative

    Kristinn Taylor at Free Republic reported on Valerie Jarrett’s explanation why Blacks should vote for Obama. And wait till you read what she said.

    Valerie Jarrett: Blacks should support Obama for sharp reduction in crack cocaine sentencing
    Tuesday, June 26, 2012 | Kristinn Taylor

    Posted on June 26, 2012 10:32:23 PM EDT by kristinn

    In remarks to Black journalists this past weekend virtually unreported in the mainstream media, senior White House advisor Valerie Jarrett said reducing the prison sentences for crack cocaine is one of the three reasons African-Americans have to support President Obama’s reelection.


  65. This is a good read over at the SCOTUSBlog:


    Arizona should enforce the provisions they have! I bet the SCOTUS took notice of Obama pettiness regarding Arizona.

    Gotta go.

  66. natasha korecki ‏@natashakorecki Says:

    Stuart Levine’s new sentencing date will be July 19.

    Stuart Levine’s sentencing again postponed. Not happening tomorrow.

    First JJ Jr. has a dose of “Federal exhaustion” and now they are pushing Levine’s sentencing back….. Squeeze play, anyone?

  67. citizenwells

    another euphonius appellation?

  68. bob strauss


    Today, it’s not so much whether or not Obama is an Article II natural-born citizen of the United States since America watched Obama’s people try to photo-shop his Aug. 4, 1961 birth certificate from that of a stillborn baby whose Registrar’s birth certificate number was 151-61-10641—from a microfiche sequential numbering system that tells the State of Hawaii that Obama was theoretically the 10,641st baby born in Hawaii in 1961.

    Born on Aug. 5, 1961—a day after Obama—was Susan Nordyke (the 10,637th baby) and her twin sister Gretchen (the 10,638th baby born in Hawaii that year). How does an error like that happen? It doesn’t. And, it can’t. Hawaiian birth certificates are sequentially filed on microfiche one after another, in order of birth—live or stillborn. Susan Nordyle, born on August 5, 1961 was the 10,637th baby born in Hawaii in 1961. Her sister, Gretchen Nordyke, was the 10,638th. Obama, purportedly born on August 4 has a birth certificate that claims he was the 10,641st baby born in Hawaii—a day before the Nordyke twins were born. It was this birth certificate (that the White House released on April 27, 2011) that Maricopia County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s forensic scientists spent six months testing and ruled that it was a computer-generated forgery. This and the fact that public now knows from California attorney Dr. Orly Taitiz’s investigation and subsequent lawsuit over Obama’s reportedly using not only the Social Security card issued to French immigrant Jean Paul Ludwig between 1977 and 1979 but 26 other Social Security numbers over the years, the number of Americans questioning why a natural born US citizen would need to photoshop a birth certificate and use someone else’s social security card should realize that question leads to an even more natural question than: “is Barack Obama a natural born citizen?”

    The more natural question? “Is Barack Obama an American citizen at all?” The growing body of evidence suggests that issue is the best to debate rather than questioning whether or not Obama is an Article II “natural born” American citizen. Pennsylvania lawyer Philip J. Berg figured that out in 2008 when he sued for Obama to produce not only his Certificate of Citizenship but also his Oath of Allegiance.

    – John Christian Ryter


  69. bob strauss

    Dems Prepare for War on SCOTUS
    Tomorrow, at around 10:30am EDT, the Democrat-left-media complex will launch the most aggressive and sustained attack on the institution of the Supreme Court in the history of our Republic. When the Court throws out at least some portion of ObamaCare tomorrow, President Obama and his partisans on the left and in the media will effectively declare war on the third co-equal branch of government and seek, in every possible way, to undermine the legitimacy of the Court. by Mike Flynn


  70. Ron Paul just said, speaking with Cavuto, that the mandatory coverage “is a good start” but….he likes the individual savings accounts better!! He says that a lot of the bill is already in motion and so there will be a lot of complication and patching will be done even if a part or all of the bill is canceled.

    Obama, just by getting up every day makes life hell for us all….and that tops when Washington by itself gets up every morning.

    Paul certainly has a talent for constantly pointing out all the misery of the world and whines about the current conditions, but if he would have actually strongly moved, coherently with others in power, in one direction or the other just maybe some of those conditions might have been changed before this. But to some the debate is all that matters in order to keep your face out there.

  71. bob strauss

    SCOTUS saves the people from the unconstitutional communist take over of our health care system, which excludes Muslims, and now the communists are going to violate the Constitution, and go after a co-equal branch of government like ACORN thugs instead of acting professionally.

    This is just another example of mob rule. This should outrage every American. The illegal aliens are running our country.
    Dems Prepare for War on SCOTUS
    Tomorrow, at around 10:30am EDT, the Democrat-left-media complex will launch the most aggressive and sustained attack on the institution of the Supreme Court in the history of our Republic. When the Court throws out at least some portion of ObamaCare tomorrow, President Obama and his partisans on the left and in the media will effectively declare war on the third co-equal branch of government and seek, in every possible way, to undermine the legitimacy of the Court. by Mike Flynn


  72. Herman Cain, Ken Blackwell On Holder’s Dereliction Of Duty

    By Daniel Noe
    June 27, 2012

    “Former presidential candidate Herman Cain and former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell discuss real threats to Americans’ voting rights, as well as the irresponsibility of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder in refusing to deal with them.”


    Go To: ProtectYourVote.com

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Breaking News in Florida

    “True the Vote and Judicial Watch to Defend Florida’s Efforts to Clean Voter Registration Lists in Obama Administration Lawsuit”

    “Houston, TX – True the Vote, a nonpartisan, nonprofit grassroots organization focused on preserving election integrity, and Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and fights government corruption, announced Tuesday that they have filed a Motion for Intervention defending the State of Florida’s efforts to clean up voter registration lists against an Obama administration lawsuit (The United States of America v. State of Florida and Ken Detzner (No. 4:12-cv-285)).

    The motion was filed jointly in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Florida, Tallahassee Division:”

    See: TrueTheVote.org

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  73. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    citizenwells | June 27, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    another euphonius appellation?

    Go to 1:55 minute

  74. bob strauss

    Cowardly Obama Suppresses Fast And Furious “Smoking Gun”


    By Doug Book
    June 27, 2012

    “Sent to the Department in March of 2011, Melson’s emails alerted the DOJ to its false and potentially criminal claims just one month after the Weich letter and 3 months after the death of Brian Terry. The emails exposed lies perpetuated by both Weich and Eric Holder. Yet not only did the DOJ ignore Melson’s warnings; Holder continued his claims of innocence and ignorance on behalf of the Department and its officials—including, of course, himself.

    The incriminating wiretaps applications have been sealed by a federal judge, so although copies were leaked to congressional committees, they cannot be released to the public or used in evidence against the DOJ.”

    Continued Here:




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  76. I really wish you would stop doing that. I had to watch the whole thing…again. 😉

  77. oldsalt79 | June 27, 2012 at 12:12 pm |

    Not for me yet..esp. when war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strengh….my up is down right now.

    I’ll wait until the verdict is in…and it’s not over till the fat lady sings….the truth will come to the surface.
    Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. John 8: 32

  78. seaque | June 27, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    “What self-respecting person would cast a vote for a lesser of two evils?” asks Celente. “Not only is it immoral and undignified, it’s destructive.

    And might I add to this…I am not playing the game …I will never be a participant in this illusion ‘they’ try to project that we are given a choice…puh–leeze!!!
    They choose–not you!!! Grow up and face the truth….until the voting system returns to paper ballots, I will not play their game.
    And if I am not confident with either candidate, I still will not vote.
    I am one of those self-respecting persons and a vote for the lesser of two evils is still ‘evil’, is it not??
    ‘They’ laugh at you every election year. You are a pawn, nothing more.
    I will never hold my nose again.

  79. oldsalt79 | June 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    There is not enough stupidity or complacency in the entire world to have allowed this constitutional crisis to occur…one answer and only one can explain the actions of SOSs, Supreme Court Justices, all of congress, Bush, Hillary(although, most know she was threatened), McCain, Palin, CIA, FBI, all of military higher-ups, Colin Powell…and on and on….
    Blackmail doesn’t cover it—threats…not only to the families…but bombs placed at schools, parks, heavy traffic bridges, buildings, factories, skyscrapers, government buildings, colleges…
    How do I know?? I don’t …but I have pondered for years, and it was the ONLY way to make 100 senators, 435 representatives, and 9 SC justices NOT ask that question in January, 2009. It also explains the courts for 3 years, congress for 3 years; ignoring this constitutional crisis.
    Discussion time–any takers??

  80. bob strauss

    JayJay | June 27, 2012 at 6:16 pm
    They are just trying to be politically correct, which to them, is more important than the Constitution.

  81. Very informative….please pass this to everyone you know……

    Where Does Money Come From? The Giant Federal Reserve Scam That Most Americans Do Not Understand

    Michael Snyder
    The Economic Collapse
    Wednesday, June 27, 2012


  82. Nail-biting Wait Is Over: Lawmakers Ready For Supreme Court’s Healthcare Ruling

    By Sam Baker and Elise Viebeck
    June 25, 3012

    “Lawmakers, lawyers and pundits have braced for the decision every day the court has been in session. But as the days tick down, they brace a little harder. They’re bracing intensely now because this week is the last available for the justices to deliver their verdict. Seventy thousand people watched live reporting of opinions on SCOTUSBlog last Thursday, thinking a ruling might come.

    The case has massive implications. It will shake the presidential race in ways almost impossible to predict. It will define Obama’s legacy and that of Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts. And it will shape the future of the healthcare system.

    It is, above all, a landmark decision on the scope of Congress’s power under the Constitution.

    “It’s huge,” said Rep. Phil Roe (R-Tenn.), a doctor and critic of the healthcare law.

    The healthcare ruling will rival some of the high court’s most important decisions in history, he said, alongside cases on civil rights and abortion.

    “I think it’s one of the biggest decisions the court has made in the last 50, 60 years — Brown v. Board of Education, Roe v. Wade, the 2000 presidential election; those are all big decisions, and this is one of them.”

    Twenty-six states and the National Federation of Independent Business filed the healthcare challenge. They claim that the law’s individual mandate, which requires most taxpayers to buy insurance or pay a penalty, is unconstitutional.

    If the court agrees, it must also decide whether to strike down the entire statute or only part of the law.”


    “All anyone can do is try to be ready when the moment arrives. “We were ready today,” Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) said last Thursday, laughing.

    Trying to prepare is a big undertaking.

    Unlike other important cases, there are many more than two possible outcomes in the healthcare case.”


    “The court divided its oral arguments into four questions: whether it may make a ruling now, before the individual mandate has taken effect; whether the mandate is constitutional; whether the rest of the law can stand if the mandate is unconstitutional; and whether the law’s Medicaid expansion is constitutional.

    It’s unclear therefore whether the Big Decision will actually be one decision or separate rulings on each of the four questions. Either way, the complexity and historical significance of the case means there will probably be several concurring and dissenting opinions to dissect.”


    […] “But oral arguments appeared to go abysmally for the White House. The court’s customary swing vote, Justice Anthony Kennedy, made it clear immediately that he was deeply skeptical of the mandate, and even the more liberal justices were unsatisfied with the answers offered by Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, who argued the case on behalf of the Obama administration.”

    See The Entire Article Here:


  83. It is the right of every American to vote…without intimidation.
    How about without fraud??? How aboutwithout hacking intervention??
    How about without machines from other countries with preset chips?

  84. bob strauss

    Boehner: House will go ahead with contempt vote
    Associated PressBy LARRY MARGASAK | Associated Press – 42 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration and House Republicans refused to find a middle ground in a dispute over documents related to a botched gun-tracking operation, and the GOP plunged ahead with plans for precedent-setting votes Thursday to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in civil and criminal contempt of Congress.

  85. bob strauss

    Black Lawmakers Plot ‘Walkout Strategy’ During Holder Contempt Vote
    By Shane Goldmacher
    June 27, 2012 | 6:26 p.m.
    The Congressional Black Caucus has called a members-only “emergency” meeting on Thursday to plot a “walkout strategy” ahead of the scheduled contempt vote of Attorney General Eric Holder later in the day.

    The plans, detailed in an email from the executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus obtained by the Alley, include circulating a letter disapproving of the vote and having lawmakers walk out of the Capitol to hold a press conference during the roll call.
    More mob rule.

  86. due to the obama’s extremely fast, same day actions on the Arizona Supreme Court decision there is NO DOUBT in my mind that obama has a mole inside the Supreme Court by the name of KAGAN

  87. GLOBE Magazine: The Man Who Forged President Obama’s Birth Certificate Caught?


    GLOBE Magazine: The Man Who Forged President Obama’s Birth Certificate Caught! (Photo)

    BY Dr. Jody Overland on June 27, 2012

    This week’s issue of The GLOBE has the cover story ‘BUSTED! This Man Forged Obama’s Birth Certificate!’ Now who would want to go and do a nasty thing like that? Forging anyone’s birth certificate is illegal, let alone the President’s. In fact, forgery is a serious crime, so let’s hope that this turns out to have some benign explanation. Of course there are all sorts of cranks out there so you never know…

    This week we look forward to seeing the print edition as GLOBE has blockbuster details regarding the probe into President Obama‘s birth certificate and a stunning photo re-enactment of the moment investigators approached one of two men they suspect of playing a part in the forgery of the document.

    The question that comes to mind is why someone would want to forge the President’s birth certificate? I doubt that the perp wanted to get a driver’s license in the name of Barack Hussein Obama II – or apply for a passport bearing this moniker – it would kind of stand out. Could this forgery be politically motivated?

  88. AG Holder Suddenly in Perilous Quandary: Moderate Dems Move with Republicans on Contempt Charges (Video)

    The congressional contempt vote against Attorney General Eric Holder is looking more and more like a fait accompli, as House Speaker John Boehner presses ahead with a Thursday floor vote and conservative Democrats one-by-one announce they will side with Republicans.

    At least four Democrats so far have said they plan to vote to hold Holder in contempt over his refusal to turn over Operation Fast and Furious documents. Sources told Fox News that roughly 20 are likely to break ranks.

    Those Democrats are largely conservative-leaning lawmakers facing perilous political circumstances in their home districts. But regardless of motive, their support only increases the odds that the nation’s top law enforcement official will be held in contempt of Congress come Thursday.

    read more see video..


  89. Run for Your Lives: DCCC Chair Tells House Dems to Avoid DNC

    Kate Hicks
    Web Editor, Townhall.com
    June 27, 2012 03:02 PM EST


  90. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I thought that the way the heath care bill was worded, it couldn’t be “severed”?

    I thought it was “all or nothing”?

    But then again, we are talking about the United States of America in 2012, when it seems the Government can do whatever it wants.

    You know, this WHOLE thing started when “we” focused on the Birth Certificate and NOT the FACT that the definition of “Natural Born Citizen” is “born on the soil of two citizen parents”.

    Instead of the media correcting “us”, they grasped upon the issue to INDOCTRINATE “us” that being born on US soil was all that was needed to become a “Citizen”. You hear very little talk of “Natural Born Citizen”.

    Now to REeducate the American people will be an uphill battle, and it seems that WND is one of few outlets who remind us of this.

    Try asking a Congressman or Senator what their definition of “Natural Born Citizen” is, and I’d bet dollars to donuts that they’d respond with a dumbfounded stare and call in an assistant to have you escorted out of the event.

  91. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I also agree that these electronic voting machines are easily rigged.

    I would much prefer a paper ballot. It may take longer to get results, but the facts are that the election is in November, and the President doesn’t take Office until January, so if it took a week to ACCURATELY count the votes, so be it.

    I have stated previously that when I went to vote in our primary, I am POSITIVE that I didn’t vote for MY congressional district (I am in the 4th district and my ballot had me vote in the 9th district). I brought it up with someone working the polls, and was basically told that they had redistricted, and that if I wasn’t comfortable voting for the candidate, then don’t vote for that seat. In MY district there were many candidates, but in the 9th, there was only one.

  92. IB……………….
    In the old days the DEMS used to pay people to STUFF the BALLOT box with phoney votes. It made accurate counting of votes a real challenge. But you are right the paper ballot is the ONLY way to extract a reasonably accurate vote. I personally use an absentee ballot, which is HAND DELIVERED to the election commissioner’s door,and is signed for. The old voting machines that were used in the thirties, forties,and fifties rarely if ever went on the fritz. They worked fine,and for the most part we had honest voting. It took a little longer to count and tally all the votes, but at least there was reasonable accuracy. So far as I know there was NEVER any attempts to rig the old machines. At least I never heard of anybody attempting to tamper with the old machines. For years these machines used huge roles of what looked like calculator paper. There was no key punch holes or hanging chads.

  93. The Honorable Congressman Ron Paul on Cavuto: Mandated Health Care? Opt Out!

  94. I’m hoping for Christmas in June tomorrow.

  95. Tomorrow is the the great come-uppance. Obama fiddles while my state of Colorado burns. I feel it. June 28th is the beggining of his end.




    By Jerome R. Corsi
    June 27, 2012

    “In a 20-page report, a former aide to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher warns his hereditary peers in the U.K. the Obama presidency is in danger of falling because of evidence he considers conclusive that Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery.”


    Read the entire Monckton report

    “A dislocation more severe than the fall of Watergate may be anticipated, leaving the free world leaderless at a time of great financial uncertainty,” Monckton advises the British nobility.

    He put his fellow peers on notice that he considers it likely a civil or criminal court challenge of Obama’s eligibility will eventually succeed that could remove Obama from office before the November 2012 election through a disqualification determined under the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.”


    “On page 15, Monckton states that the charge by Arpaio’s law enforcement investigation that Obama’s Selective Service registration form was also forged implies Obama himself was involved in the forgery:

    If the President’s Selective Service Document is also a forgery, as the cold-case posse believe it to be, the apparent perpetrator is Mr. Obama himself, since it is his signature that appears on the document.

    Monckton further charges both Obama and the Hawaii Department of Health are engaged in a cover-up. “The sealing of the President’s records appears to have been carried out to an exceptional and costly degree,” Monckton wrote, noting “almost all school, college, and other records of Mr. Obama’s early life have been sealed and are not available to the public.”

    Please See The Entire Article Here:


  97. Philo-Publius

    Americans favor Obama to defend against space aliens: poll

    Nearly two in three Americans think President Barack Obama is better suited than Republican rival Mitt Romney to deal with an alien invasion

  98. citizenwells

    Is that because Obama is an illegal aliens & knows how they think?

  99. Rachel Maddow – GOP forcing Ron Paul Supporters to sign ‘loyalty oaths’ to Mitt Romney

  100. Reality Check: Mass. Corruption as GOP Strip Delegates of Their Credentials

  101. Katie | June 28, 2012 at 12:45 am |
    Tomorrow is the the great come-uppance. Obama fiddles while my state of Colorado burns. I feel it. June 28th is the beggining of his end.

    email from Tisha Casida of Colorado

    I have friends who are evacuated and who have already lost their homes.

    Last night I listened to a press conference on the Waldo Canyon Fire. Someone in the audience asked (I am paraphrasing) ‘Why can’t we call on the armed forces since there are so many stationed here – they can help with this type of event – why can’t we call on them and why are they somewhere else when we need them here?’ – to which this question received an applause from the people listening.

    The answer was something to the effect: that although there are many trained firefighters within the armed forces, stationed there in Colorado Springs (and/or deployed) – that there are federal laws that prevent our local officials from “calling on them” until our local and State resources are “exhausted”.

    This is exactly what is wrong with how our disaster-management is set up. The pyramid structure that requires top-down dictation to localities that take the initial brunt of any disaster is a formula for disaster in itself. The Colorado National Guard should NOT be in Iraq and Afghanistan in fire-fights – they should be fighting fires in OUR State in Colorado Springs, and in other communities that have been so terribly affected by Mother Nature’s (and arsonists’) wrath.

    What are these mighty laws that have taken our own troops and made them inaccessible to our own homes’ security? The Department of Homeland Security is one of the culprits – if you are going to protect “the homeland” – why in the world aren’t you protecting these people’s homes who are burning? So much tax-payer money in resources that are inaccessible to the taxpayers! This is unconscionable – there is no reason that more of our own resources that we pay for should not be more accessible to these people who desperately need it. Now! Not after the disaster gets “bad enough” to warrant the “help” and mighty hand of the federal government that is putting more money, time and effort in fire-fights than fighting our fires.

    I am proposing and supporting legislation that brings home all State ‘National’ guards so that Governors and localities can access to these men and women who serve in the interest of their own State – and not the federal government.

    In Liberty,


    P.S. We are spending millions of dollars on bomb-sniffing vehicles and other projects from the Department of Homeland Security that are supposed to protect us when this money and these resources could be spent on actual home-land security – securing the homes of our communities and neighborhoods. Our priorities MUST change. If you like what I am saying, please support our campaign – a contribution of $25, $50, even $100 gives us the fuel necessary to re-instate common sense in governance, starting with things like bringing our State National Guards HOME to help us with our own disasters.

  102. Mandate survives as a tax….crap

  103. Mandate survives as a tax!! according to SCOTUS blog

  104. medical provision is limited but not invalidated

    Would Congress send sergeant-at-arms for Holder?
    Questions not allowed by Obama press aide

    Several questions about how the White House will respond should the U.S. House, as many expect, hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress weren’t answered at today’s White House news briefing.

    Press Secretary Jay Carney allowed CBS and Fox News to ask seven questions each, NBC to ask five and CNN and Bloomberg to ask four each, but he did not recognize Les Kinsolving, WND’s correspondent at the White House.

    Kinsolving had wanted to ask about an assertion by Cornell law professor Josh Cafetz that “if the House holds Holder in contempt, it can send its sergeant-at-arms to arrest him, and hold him until his contempt is purged.”

    Kinsolving also wanted to ask whether Obama would enlist the FBI or the armed forces “to protect the attorney general.” In addition, he wanted to know whether Obama would expect Congress to impeach Holder or cut funding for the Department of Justice should the standoff continue


  106. Bye bye mandate.

  107. sorry, medicaid provision

  108. citizenwells


    Amy Howe: Parsing it asap.
    Amy Howe: The individual mandate survives as a tax.
    Amy Howe: It’s very complicated, so we’re still figuring it out.
    Kali: We are still here. Don’t worry.
    Tom: So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.
    Amy Howe: The Medicaid provision is limited but not invalidated.
    Tom: The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government’s power to terminate states’ Medicaid funds is narrowly read.
    Tom: We’re still here; taking a deeper dive into the opinion. Back soon.
    Tom: Link to the opinion isn’t up yet.
    Tom: Chief Justice Roberts’ vote saved the ACA.

  109. How in the heck can they permit a tax when Obama’s representative said it would NOT be a tax. Roberts is proven once again to be a lib. Kennedy was a dissenter!!

  110. : The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government’s power to terminate states’ Medicaid funds is narrowly read.

  111. IMPEACH CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS….he sold out America.

  112. They avoided calling this a tax originally because the One promised taxes wouldnt go up if you made a certain income….Now they are going to allow this mandate as a tax….which means, Obama lied once again…..EVERYONE’S taxes have now been raised and the IRS will handle health care premiums…..

  113. citizenwells

    Amy Howe: The money quote from the section on the mandate: Our precedent demonstrates that Congress had the power to impose the exaction in Section 5000A under the taxing power, and that Section 5000A need not be read to do more than impose a tax. This is sufficient to sustain it.

    Amy Howe: The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate.

  114. Amy Howe: The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate. HUH?

  115. This is a sad day for America. SCOTUS has bombed out big time. The progressives will be rejoicing. I read yesterday that it was expected that Chief Justice Roberts would be reading the opinion. That was correct, but I don’t think anyone thought that he would be the swing vote, which he was.
    (It was NOT Kennedy this time). Shame! (My mind wanders back to the so-called flub when he had to render the oath of office to Obummer twice)

    Based on this opinion, Congress will be given a carte blanche to pass anything it wants and not fear that the commerce clause will strike it down.

  116. citizenwells

    Tom: We do not have the opinion.
    Amy Howe: On the Medicaid issue, a majority of the Court holds that the Medicaid expansion is constitutional but that it w/b unconstitutional for the federal government to withhold Medicaid funds for non-compliance with the expansion provisions.
    Lyle: The key comment on salvaging the Medicaid expansion is this (from Roberts): “Nothing in our opinion precludes Congress from offering funds under the ACA to expand the availability of health care, and requiring that states accepting such funds comply with the conditions on their use. What Congress is not free to do is to penalize States that choose not to participate in that new program by taking away their existing Medicaid funding.” (p. 55)
    Amy Howe: To be clear, what we are typing here are excerpts from the opinion or paraphrasing thereof. Not predictions anymore.
    Tom: 866,000 liveblog readers.

    Amy Howe: The critical detail is that you cannot take away the existing Medicaid funds.

    Amy Howe: The Court does not reach severability issues, having upheld the mandate 5-4.

    Lyle: To readers of the Roberts opinion, a caution: It is the opinion of the Court through the top of p. 44; the balance is labeled as, and is, Roberts speaking for himself.

    Amy Howe: Another way to think about Medicaid: the Constitution requires that states have a choice about whether to participate in the expansion of eligibility; if they decide not to, they can continue to receive funds for the rest of the program.
    Tom: Apologies – you can’t refuse to pay the tax; typo. The only effect of not complying with the mandate is that you pay the tax.
    Amy Howe: The Court holds that the mandate violates the Commerce Clause, but that doesn’t matter b/c there are five votes for the mandate to be constitutional under the taxing power.

  117. The scandal sheet Globe has printed another Soetoro story. Allegedly every word being the absolute truth. If you go to the local supermarket you will probably see the story on the front page as you stand in the check out line. While I cannot attest to the accuracy of the story I see no reason whatsoever to doubt it’s accuracy. I sincerely hope that Globe continues to publish articles which relate to the obvious disrespect for this country that the BASTARD POTUS holds.

  118. citizenwells

    Amy Howe: The Court holds that the Anti-Injunction Act doesn’t apply because the label “tax” is not controlling.
    Lyle: Justice Ginsburg makes clear that the vote is 5-4 on sustaining the mandate as a form of tax. Her opinion, for herself and Sotomayor, Breyer and Kagan, joins the key section of Roberts opinion on that point. She would go further and uphold the mandate under the Commerce Clause, which Roberts wouldn’t. Her opinion on Commerce does not control.

  119. citizenwells

    Lyle: Kennedy is reading from the dissent.

  120. You Must O-Bey SCOTUS upholds Obamacare


    June 28, 2012 at 10:16am by Becket Adams

    The Supreme Court on Thursday delivered its decision on the controversial “individual mandate” embedded in President Obama’s landmark healthcare bill, ruling that it is constitutional.

    The court’s ruling comes as a major defeat for those who have been fighting the healthcare overhaul well before President Obama signed it into law in 2010. The bill was not dismantled entirely and its expansion of Medicaid, although now limited, still stands. This means roughly 30 millions of uninsured low-income Americans are still eligible for coverage through the bill’s expansion of the state-run entitlement program.

    “The bottom line: the entire ACA [Affordable Care Act] is upheld, with the exception that the federal government‘s power to terminate states’ Medicaid funds is narrowly read,” SCOTUS Blog reports.

    After hearing oral arguments on the constitutionality of the bill in March, the Supreme Court Justices focused on these four points:

    Whether the “individual” mandate is constitutional
    Whether SCOTUS has the authority to rule on a tax law even though it hasn’t come into effect
    If the individual mandate is overturned, will it be cut from the rest of the law as a separate entity or will other provisions fall with it?
    Whether the law’s Medicaid expansion is constitutional

    Of the four points discussed, the Supreme Court ruled that, as a tax, the individual mandate is constitutional.

    Several analysts predicted that if the court ruled against the mandate, it would have negative long-term consequences on the president’s legacy and would weigh heavily on his reelection bid.

    It doesn’t seem that way now.

    Chief Justice Roberts, whose vote saved “Obamacare,” announced the court’s decision at 10:07 EST.

  121. citizenwells

    Lyle: In opening his statement in dissent, Kennedy says: “In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety.”

  122. Can we now be taxed for everything we morally disagree with the Gov. on? What will now happen to the institutions within faith communities. “Most bizarre tax ever”…..Judge Napolitano…..for only some. And sorry, even though Obama INSISTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN when interviewed that it was not a tax….they argued it to the court AS A TAX. Once again ….liar and chief.

  123. citizenwells

    Another Obama lie.

  124. Hello tax increase.

  125. citizenwells

    Amy Howe: In Plain English: The Affordable Care Act, including its individual mandate that virtually all Americans buy health insurance, is constitutional. There were not five votes to uphold it on the ground that Congress could use its power to regulate commerce between the states to require everyone to buy health insurance. However, five Justices agreed that the penalty that someone must pay if he refuses to buy insurance is a kind of tax that Congress can impose using its taxing power. That is all that matters. Because the mandate survives, the Court did not need to decide what other parts of the statute were constitutional, except for a provision that required states to comply with new eligibility requirements for Medicaid or risk losing their funding. On that question, the Court held that the provision is constitutional as long as states would only lose new funds if they didn’t comply with the new requirements, rather than all of their funding.

    Tom: We’re checking on whether the Court is still reading.
    Amy Howe: Yes, to answer a common question, the whole ACA is constitutional, so the provision requiring insurers to cover young adults until they are 26 survives as well.

  126. You know what? It seems to me that SCOTUS deliberately (mainly, CJ Roberts) rendered such a convoluted decision – muddled and confusing as to application – ON PURPOSE, in order to throw the entire mess back to Congress. Just thinking.

    Even Greta brought up the problem that Roberts had in having to render the oath of office twice to Obama…… Sort of tongue in cheek with her.

  127. Remember the re-swearing in of Obama by Roberts due to his error….well, this time he’s given power AGAIN to those who don’t have it under the Constitution. It’s a mess once again due to the libs.

    Some top Repubs are speaking out that this ruling will play out by rolling back things to 2010….iow, “a sleeping giant has been awakened”.

    Congress is going to have to figure out how to pay for those states not putting everyone under healthcare, iow, opting out, and who have to now be covered….due to not being forced to expand Medicaid. Will we be like Germany…having to bail out states other than our own to cover them? Folks ain’t gonna like that. This Medicaid part is making this decision not so great for Obama.

  128. Huge Mess….States can opt out of forced Medicaid ruling…..so how are those the gov’t planned would be covered under this healthcare rule be covered…..The taxpayers are screwed…..more taxes.

  129. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Here’s The Real Story.

    “Obamacare + Ponzi scheme”


  130. ……and NOW we have learned that the SCOTUS is also A$$ deep in the Soetoro slime pool. There is now only ONE OPTION LEFT. I do not look for any other president to repeal the alleged Healthcare Act. Obviously these NITWITS have to learn …THE HARD WAY. Take a long look at the alleged healthcare system of Britain. Ours will end up being a CARBON COPY. There is a hell of a lot more at stake than just Healthcare. It is our Constitutional rights which now are at risk as well. Roberts just PROVED THAT. Hope all you DOGOODERS like what is coming, after all it was YOU who ORIGINALLY VOTED FOR the so called FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE OF AMERICA.

  131. Interested Bystander

    I think I’m going to throw up.

    If this isn’t PROOF that they are ALL in on it, then you need to wake up.

    Anyone who would believe that the Founders of this Country envisioned that the Government would have the power to do MOST of what they do, then you haven’t read HISTORY.

    The Founders are crying for US today.

  132. I refuse to watch or listen to the Usurper taunt again the good citizens of this country as he illegally forces more hell on them. None of this is legal anyway coming from the illegal and foreign invader gov.

  133. and if larger companies who will be forced to provide a defined amount of insurance coverage for their employees decides to drop this coverage and pay the penalty (tax) then individual employees must buy the required insurance or be taxed.

  134. the tea party has re-awakened…welcome to 2010 type elections!

  135. I bet, if this will remain possible, we will see more good doctors only accepting cash. More people will be seeing nurse practitioners due to the overload on the limited doctors still practicing.

  136. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    And now the Congress will vote to hold Holder in Contempt of Congress, and it will be back burner news.

    Prrobably won’t be discussed at all.

  137. stocks sliding after decision

  138. Justice Roberts is a weenie. He won’t throw Obama out of office, he rules on behalf of illegal immigrants and now this. He probably won’t overturn Roe v Wade either.

  139. We have been snookered once again. Pray tell me how a law that is unconstitutional under the commerce clause (five justices agree that it is) can then turn around and be constitutional under the taxing authority granted to Congress? This is utter nonsense. If it is unconstitutional under the commerce clause, IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Period.

    What has Roberts been drinking? The Obama koolaid. There is something more going on here than meets the eye.

  140. Observer……………
    Anyone who thinks that the initial swearing in of Soetoro was only a mistake do not really understand what was perpetrated by Roberts and Soetoro. Every word was well rehearsed,and acted out. The secondary re swear was PART OF THE PLAN, and intended from day one. This charade was swallowed hook ,line, and sinker by MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. This was easy to see through…….all you need to do was apply a little logic and reasoning…….which seems to be a commodity which even at this late date is still in short supply. John Roberts KNEW FULL WELL that Soetoro is NOT ELIGIBLE, YET HE CHOSE TO SWEAR HIM IN AS THE POTUS. This makes Roberts a perpetrator of TREASON against the US. I have said all along that Roberts KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING………AND VOLUNTARILY CHOSE TO BECOME A TRAITOR! I SINCERELY HOPE THAT EVERYBODY NOW SEES EXACTLY WHAT THE SCOTUS REALLY IS……….A TOOL OF THE LIBERAL LEFT!

  141. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I can’t help but think about what “we” disagreed with the USSR about back in the 50’s and 60’s and 70’s and 80’s.

    Our “Leaders” spoke about allowing Russian’s to be “free”.

    They spoke about how their media was Government run.

    They spoke about the suppression of the citizens, and regulations implemented against them, and the rationing of food and energy.

    They spoke about how much of a failure their health care system was.

    They spoke about how the children of the Country were being indoctrinated.

    And now we are becoming exactly what we disagreed with just 50 years ago.

    The way we “defeated” the USSR was that they defeated themselves by spending the Country in to collapse.

    How long will it take for history repeat itself here?

    I am beginning to believe that it will happen in MY lifetime.

  142. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Just remember –

    “The last act of ANY government is to loot the treasury.” – George Washington

  143. Honor First………….Re 10:50 am
    You are exactly right. WOW how nice it is to agree with somebody who ….HAS FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT!

  144. AMEN Bystander……..history does repeat itself.

    America is proving that here and now…

    I also agree with your last sentence…..it will be a sad day when the libs take old glory down.

  145. Isn’t it amazing how in just a few short years (less than 30) that Russia is becoming more like the old America

    and…America is becoming more like the old Soviet Union.

  146. you can still consciously object, for religious reasons…….whatever that means? I suppose that means you don’t get coverage ?

    or you can form a one person corporation……..and avoid health insurance if you are in good health

    or you can join a health club and say that is your health coverage

    none of which gets you anything worthwhile…….except more dollars out of your pocket.

    but for us old folks it really doesn’t matter? or does it ? We are grandfathered in.
    Wait a minute, we are impacted because we all know the QUALITY OF HEALTH CARE IS GOING DOWN. That is impact here everyone misses.

  147. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    And PLEASE don’t comment about how this will “awake a sleeping giant”, or anything like that. MOST States have already held primaries, and the candidates are all ready in place.

    Romney isn’t the answer.

    “WE THE PEOPLE” are up $heetcreek.


    I couldn’t agree more, Roberts states that the law isn’t Constitutional under the “Commerce clause” (which IF you would research this provision, was simply put in so that States couldn’t charge other States for sending their goods in to that State, in other words, Indiana can’t make Wisconsin pay a fee for sending cheese in to Indiana), then it ISN’T CONSTITUTIONAL under ANY provision of the Constitution.

    How can something be UNConstitutional AND Constitutional at the same time?

    oldsalt, another example of UP is DOWN with these clowns.

  148. Sad day for our Republic. Socialism has tightened its grip even more. We can only hope now that the Sleeping Giant has been roused and Obama and all his goons will go down hard in Nov.

  149. Interested Bystander

    da verge,

    Doesn’t the “cost” of medicare go up AGAIN next year for those who are on it?

    Doesn’t the cost almost double?

  150. Interested Bystander | June 28, 2012 at 10:49 am

    “If this isn’t PROOF that they are ALL in on it, then you need to wake up.”
    “The Washington Wrestling Federation- Gerald Celente accurately describes the two party system in America. Watch Gereld Celente, Dr.Robert Bowman and others as they break down the right left paradigm.”

  151. This is indeed puzzling from a rational viewpoint. How can Congress exercise its right to TAX on something that five justices agree is unconstitutional under the commerce clause? (The mandate was upheld under Congress’ right to tax but was rejected by five justices because of failure to be constitutional under the commerce clause) The “tax” theory won out. Why? How? So Congress is free to tax for something that is really unconstitutional?

    This is probably a corny comparison, but suppose a person is driving down a street, and that person is pulled over for alleged indecent exposure AND speeding. If he goes to court and the court finds him innocent of indecent exposure but guilty of speeding, does innocence on one account allow him to go scot free?

  152. Interested Bystander

    RMinNC re:11:17,

    The sad thing is, HISTORY isn’t taught in our schools any longer.

    These youngsters believe that they are OWED a living and that GOVERNMENT is the ONLY answer.

  153. Interested Bystander

    What gets me is that Obama argued EVERY TIME he was asked that this was NOT a TAX, but then when the chit hit the fan, they went in to SCOTUS and argued it WAS a tax.

    Two faced bastards.

  154. Yahoo is conducting a poll on the SCOTUS decision…

  155. Interested Bystander

    I won’t be able to sleep today.

    I slept maybe 1 and 1/2 hours and woke up to the “news”.

    I think I’ll switch over to see when Congress will vote on Holder.

    But as I stated before, the vote on Holder won’t even be discussed in the media today except in an “Oh by the way” type of manner, and then back to the “All Hail Obama” crap that we have to endure day in and day out.

    If the people only knew the TRUTH.

  156. Listing Obama’s Taxes …

    (Story from September 8, 2011)


    by admin on September 8, 2011

    Since taking office, President Barack Obama has signed into law twenty-one new or higher taxes:

    1. A 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco: On February 4, 2009, just sixteen days into his Administration, Obama signed into law a 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco, a hike of 61 cents per pack. The median income of smokers is just over $36,000 per year.

    2. Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax (takes effect in Jan 2014): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following
    1 Adult 2 Adults 3+ Adults
    2014 1% AGI/$95 1% AGI/$190 1% AGI/$285
    2015 2% AGI/$325 2% AGI/$650 2% AGI/$975
    2016 + 2.5% AGI/$695 2.5% AGI/$1390 2.5% AGI/$2085

    Exemptions for religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes, and hardship cases (determined by HHS). Bill: PPACA; Page: 317-337

    3. Obamacare Employer Mandate Tax (takes effect Jan. 2014): If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees. Applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer). Bill: PPACA; Page: 345-346

    Combined score of individual and employer mandate tax penalty: $65 billion/10 years

    4. Obamacare Surtax on Investment Income (Tax hike of $123 billion/takes effect Jan. 2013): Creation of a new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income: Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 87-93
    Capital Gains Dividends Other*
    2011-2012 15% 15% 35%
    2013+ (current law) 23.8% 43.4% 43.4%
    2013+ (Obama budget) 23.8% 23.8% 43.4%

    *Other unearned income includes (for surtax purposes) gross income from interest, annuities, royalties, net rents, and passive income in partnerships and Subchapter-S corporations. It does not include municipal bond interest or life insurance proceeds, since those do not add to gross income. It does not include active trade or business income, fair market value sales of ownership in pass-through entities, or distributions from retirement plans. The 3.8% surtax does not apply to non-resident aliens.

    5. Obamacare Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Tax hike of $32 bil/takes effect Jan. 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family). Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions. CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956

    6. Obamacare Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax (Tax hike of $86.8 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Current law and changes:
    First $200,000
    ($250,000 Married)
    Employer/Employee All Remaining Wages
    Current Law 1.45%/1.45%
    2.9% self-employed 1.45%/1.45%
    2.9% self-employed
    Obamacare Tax Hike 1.45%/1.45%
    2.9% self-employed 1.45%/2.35%
    3.8% self-employed

    Bill: PPACA, Reconciliation Act; Page: 2000-2003; 87-93

    7. Obamacare Medicine Cabinet Tax (Tax hike of $5 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Americans no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

    8. Obamacare HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike (Tax hike of $1.4 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

    9. Obamacare Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka “Special Needs Kids Tax” (Tax hike of $13 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

    10. Obamacare Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Tax hike of $20 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax. Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

  157. Roberts basically tossed it back to the people to change what they don’t like, saying that the ruling doesn’t mean the law is a good one and the way to change it is to change leaders.

    The thing is I don’t see too much difference in reality between saying the gov. can’t order people to purchase a product and forcing them to do the same thing via the hard hammer of taxing them/IRS to chase them down. It is unlawful for you not to buy health insurance….same thing/effect.

  158. Interested Bystander | June 28, 2012 at 11:34 am |

    Yep. They are frigging liars.

  159. Interested Bystander

    The FACT is that under our Constitution, our Government shouldn’t even be in health care at all.

    People used to exchange chickens and eggs and bread and carpentry and gold and silver for services from a doctor.

    Now if you don’t have health insurance, you owe the Government money.

  160. RMINNC………………

  161. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    It is time once again to become educated on what form of Government our Founders set up:


    10 minutes well spent.

  162. citizenwells

    Thanks Rob, et al.

  163. citizenwells

    IB, bingo & that is the next article.

  164. Philo-Publius

    DNC Executive Director Taunts Conservatives on Obamacare Decision: “It’s Constitutional, Bitches!” & “TAKE THAT MOTHERF**CKERS!”

  165. observer | June 28, 2012 at 11:39 am |
    Roberts basically tossed it back to the people to change what they don’t like, saying that the ruling doesn’t mean the law is a good one and the way to change it is to change leaders.
    This says to me that Roberts is a big coward……for whatever reasons we may never fully know. His legal ability is suspect, as well as plain, old, good common logic.

    There is no quandary as to why this decision was rendered just before their summer vacation. He is NOT going to go against “the system.” No wonder the eligibility issue has never seen the light of day.

  166. Justice Roberts basically let the Obama administration off the hook by siding with the liberal judges. Obama knew that framing the individual mandate as a tax would be unpalatable to legislators and the American people, so he attempted to do an end around, not using the language and hoping it would work. Somehow it worked. The judges did not hold their use of language accountable, and shame on them. How you use words and language has consequences, or at least should have consequences.

    Roberts is a huge disappointment.

  167. Isn’t it odd that the head of the Dept of Commerce resigned not too long ago after a seizure (which most of us put down to driving drunk)…now that the mandate is under the Dept of Commerce, was he removed anticipating the SCOTUS ruling which appears to have been in the bag? Or is this administration just got me conditioned to always look for bogey men under the bed?

  168. CabbyAZ..
    Your conjecture is exactly right. It is easy to see that your accounting experience is guiding your thoughts. American business till now slide much faster down the hill and into the abyss. Maybe the nitwit left will get the message after the unemployment reaces 50% in every state.

  169. I don’t see how the Commerce Clause, in such a case as this, doesn’t supercede Congress’ right to tax anything that moves. The gov. is using an arm of its own (IRS) to force what the Commerce Clause forbids….purchasing health care. So next time there is a question of forcing purchase of something else they’ve learned the way around the Commerce Clause….just tax the people if the DON’T purchase it. Same illegal outcome in my opinion.

  170. It’s all just a game — the illusion of conflict.

    The agenda advances — more control/less freedom.

    Ask yourself:

    Who gives Obama the ‘cover’ he needs on eligibility?

  171. Since before Obama was elected, I’ve spent time every day reading the eligibility websites and “stewing” about how he has usurped the presidency. As of this morning, I’m done with that. From now until election day, I’m about one thing…getting him thrown out of office and electing enough conservatives to make sure Obamacare and all the other Obama crimes are reversed early next year. I’m going full blast on organizing my precinct and helping my county GOP get Romney elected. I’ve already done my online Romney donation and now I’m contacting all the county precinct chairs to get organized. I hope all of you will do whatever you can as well. Call your local GOP and volunteer. They need all the help they can get. We have to move from worrying about it to ACTION!!! Let’s ROLL!!!

  172. observer | June 28, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    So next time there is a question of forcing purchase of something else they’ve learned the way around the Commerce Clause….just tax the people if the DON’T purchase it. Same illegal outcome in my opinion.
    That will, no doubt, be the new strategy. Justice Roberts has just betrayed all of us. What a slender thread on which to hang such an important, vital issue. 5/4 decision. If Kagan had recused herself, as she should have, it would have been a tie. No wonder Obama appointed her.

  173. According to what I can find, if there is ever a tie in SCOTUS, the decision of the lower court stands. That would have been unacceptable to Obama.

  174. Kiltie, I don’t believe the commerce dep’t will have anything to do with the healthcare. It will be HHS and the IRS. The current secretary of commerce (now recently resigned) Bryson was put into that position as a clear conflict of interest. He was the ex ceo of Brightsource, you know that green energy company backed by Harry Reid for developing a solar ray tortoise death plant in Nevada. They got some of that multi billion dollar DOE loan guarantee money. They were supposed to go public but I hear they are now in financial trouble….ya think?????? I Personally know some of that funny business out there.

  175. Seldom do I post another’s comments, but in reading over at the National Journal I found this interesting post:

    Walter Bellhaven

    interesting POV from Alberto Gonzalez ….
    Former Attorney General and former White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales said Wednesday Chief Justice John Roberts may try to avoid the constitutional issues in the fight over President Barack Obama’s health care law and vote to allow the individual mandate in the law to take effect before the courts issue a definitive ruling on it.

    “I spent a great deal of time vetting Justice Roberts in making my recommendation to President [George W.] Bush that he appoint Chief Justice Roberts to the court,” Gonzales said on CNN. “One of the traits I most admired about him, and this is very consistent in his judicial decision making, is to decide decisions on the most narrow grounds possible, to not get to constitutional issues you don’t have to in order to dispose of a dispute….So in that respect, I expect Justice Roberts to follow that approach in deciding this case.”

    During oral arguments in March, the justices appointed a lawyer independent from the case to argue that a law known as the Anti-Injunction Act bars the court from blocking collection of a tax, like the penalty mechanism the law would use to encourage Americans to get insurance. The Anti-Injunction Act says a tax  must be collected before it can be challenged in court.

    At oral argument, none of the justices seemed to think much of that idea, but Gonzales suggested it would be the most consistent with Roberts’s judicial philosophy favoring something lawyers call “the doctrine of constitutional avoidance.”

    “That may mean, that he’s going to be pushing the court to perhaps not make a decision on this case, wait until 2015, when the penalties on individual mandate come into play….Perhaps the chief justice is not going to go that way, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did,” the former attorney general and one-time Texas Supreme Court justice told CNN.

    The above comment was from:

  176. da verge,

    Doesn’t the “cost” of medicare go up AGAIN next year for those who are on it?

    Doesn’t the cost almost double?

    all i know is that the cost for companies to pay for insurance is going to go up, way up and forcing them not to cover. why should they take on this expense when individual’s have to pay for it themselves now? And not companies. I predict major drop of employees off the roll and we have to get our own obamacare now. I predict more lawsuits because of that coming down the road.
    there is another obamacare lawsuit out there, coming up and that one basically says obama is ineligible and hence the bill is not a bill because he’s a usurper.
    wait for roberts to swat that one down

  177. btw I just started a new company
    for a small fee, much much less than for paying for insurance
    you can become an employee
    of the company
    and the company will certify to the government that you have health insurance.

    anyone want a certificate from the new company to send to obama ?

  178. Philo-Publius

    A weird victory for federalism

    Who would have thought that we could win while losing?…

    Today, the Roberts Court reaffirmed the “first principle” announced by Chief Justice Rehnquist some 17 years ago in Lopez: the federal government is one of limited and enumerated powers. It accepted all of our arguments about why the individual insurance mandate exceeded the commerce power: “The individual mandate cannot be upheld as an exercise of Congress’s power under the Commerce Clause,” wrote Chief Justice Roberts. “That Clause authorizes Congress to regulate interstate commerce, not to order individuals to engage in it.” Then the Court went farther to invalidate the withholding of existing Medicaid funding as coercive, thereby finding an enforceable limit on the Spending Power.

    …Congress cannot be the sole judge of the scope of its own powers. Today a majority of the Roberts Court reaffirmed this vision.

    Academics are sure to react to today’s decision by declaring the New Federalism dead, but they would be wrong to do so. The Founder’s scheme of limited and enumerated powers has survived to fight another day.

  179. SCOTUS just handed Romney the presidency…

  180. Philo-Publius

    Medicare holding may have broad implications

    …the Court’s decision to strike down a part of the Medicaid expansion may ultimately have broader jurisdprudential consequence. That, at least, will be a subject of debate among lawyers and academics in the days and weeks to come. This is the first time (as far as I know) that the Court has actually found a Spending Clause condition unconstitutionally coercive. Whether it establishes principles that make many other programs vulnerable is a question that will require further analysis and debate….

  181. Philo-Publius

    If the above two legal analysis are on target, Roberts may have done more for saving the Constitution stealthy by siding with the liberal members in order to write the opinion his way. We should not jump to any immediate conclusions about him until there is time to digest all this.

  182. There is nothing now that a Congress made up of socialist control cannot force you to pay for via taxes.

    I hate to clue in the clueless Zero, but just the opposite to your little speech, people are going to be screaming for the “old days”.

    Frankly, why even argue the Commerce Claus for anything….it’s moot. Apparently it’s never had any future clout when attempted to be applied. What a joke all of these thousands and thousands of pages of “tower of babel” speak “laws”.

  183. citizenwells

    You all are great, and this has always been a group effort.
    Many of the comments you are posting contain info I was going to retrieve.
    Just caught part of Rush as well about Obama lying.
    The Obama lie about it not being a tax & the impact of Obama’s policies on the economy & jobs
    in the past & going forward is the story.

  184. Philo-Publius | June 28, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    If the above two legal analysis are on target, Roberts may have done more for saving the Constitution stealthy by siding with the liberal members in order to write the opinion his way. We should not jump to any immediate conclusions about him until there is time to digest all this.
    After learning more of the deeper issues, I am beginning to realize this may be true; however, even if his intentions were good, it seems that he may have caused some unwanted consequences, e.g., giving Congress the idea that whatever they want to impose on us, just tax us for it and it will pass muster. Hasn’t a precedent now been set for that?

    I also read a commenter’s post on another blog that suggests that Roberts may have done this to influence the Christian conservatives to vote for Romney in Nov. Who knows the real truth? Only Roberts, I suppose.

  185. Philo-Publius

    Jay Cost @JayCostTWS
    That is NOT what Roberts is doing here. He is getting liberal Democrats to smile while he eviscerates liberal legal theory!

    Jay Cost ?@JayCostTWS
    So what? Conservatives just won us our fist major victory in 100 years, and got O to praise him for it!

    Jay Cost ?@JayCostTWS
    Read the ruling. Most important commerce clause case in 85 years. And the progs LOST it.

  186. HonorFirst | June 28, 2012 at 10:21 am |

    Amy Howe: The court reinforces that individuals can simply refuse to pay the tax and not comply with the mandate. HUH?
    The public hasn’t gotten it yet..
    1) they can’t arrest all of us
    2) in jail, how can millions pay taxes to the evil institution
    This is a bluff; it’ll never happen; let them add $2000 to our tax forms…still, can’t arrest all of us when we refuse to pay it.

    And what about citizens like me; that will not qualify; our taxes show a
    -27,000. Yeah, we lost big time.
    I go to jail if I refuse this free healthcare??
    I visit family dr. once a year for a prescription I don’t take any longer…long story( I don’t take and don’t need/ but will continue filling prescrip. for who knows??)and pay $70…what happens to healthy people like me??
    Will I be chained and forced to the dr???

  187. CW….absolutely…Once again the Republicans can shout to the public that Obama got his way through deceit. That has been his MO all along. In fact, his entire legacy has been a lie.

    I believe this has done nothing but embolden the American electorate. Obamacare has been widely unpopular and hopefully we will see another historic election like we did in 2010.

    This bill did nothing to solve the healthcare issues we have been dealing with for decades. All it did was transfer the decision making over to UNELECTEd) and unaccountable beaurocrats. The 2000+ page bill is incomprehensible. Many legal scholars could not interpret it and many stipulations were left blank or assisgned to the secretary of HHS to determine as she deemed fit. That secretary has since implemented “waivers” to a favorite few. All federal laws must be enacted fairly and equally to ALL citizens! In that sense I would imagine many more lawsuits to come. Those that voted for this monstrosity (obviously without reading it) MUST be removed.

    I smell a swell of tea brewing

  188. Philo-Publius

    Jay Cost ?@JayCostTWS
    Note to followers: I am not smoking anything. Read this to see what I think Roberts is up to. http://bit.ly/QsY90Z (1/2)

  189. Philo-Publius | June 28, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    If the above two legal analysis are on target, Roberts may have done more for saving the Constitution stealthy by siding with the liberal members in order to write the opinion his way. We should not jump to any immediate conclusions about him until there is time to digest all this.
    I’m sorry but this just doesn’t compute with legal ethics which I assume Roberts, as a Christian conservative allegedly, must abide by. IOW, the end (and then an only hoped for end) does not justify the means….esp. a means that creates such a grievious precedent that can now be linked to whenever any supreme liberal Congress wishes to deny more individual rights.

  190. Listening to the democrat arguments on the House floor regarding contempt is an absolute joke. The spin made me dizzy.

  191. Philo-Publius

    [quote]Jay Cost ?@JayCostTWS
    Seriously, ppl. Go pull out a history book on John Marshall. The guy was a political GENIUS. This has all the traits of Marshall’s strategy.

  192. Philo-Publius

    observer, the legal analysis I am reading by conservatives indicate Roberts may have pulled a fast one on the libs. His opinion places limits on the government’s authority in other areas they have been using for a long time. Those limits are now set as precedent for court cases to follow.

    I’m not an attorney so all I am saying is let’s not jump to conslusions about Roberts. There may have been a reasoned method to his madness.

  193. Well, all I can say is that nothing is past a Court that can still find something in the Constitution enabling our country to kill 53,000,000 babies!

    The pResident who told grandma that she should just take a pain pill (the slow kill) rather than have a curing surgery is the same one who today said that no one with a pre-existing illness will go without healthcare. Well, I guess it’s what your definition of “healthcare” is!

  194. Everyone against this should become Mennonites or Amish???

  195. http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

    Debate to begin on Holders contempt charge…

  196. I’m getting the impression that this isn’t about healthcare for the indigent…they are already covered..it’s really about revenue and taxing the few that can pay.

  197. Interested Bystander | June 28, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    There were bombs placed all over the states in 2007 when this coup happened and all officials were threatened—believe me now??

  198. 7 charged with corruption in Chicago… hearing at3pm Central

  199. If “Obama” is not qualified to be the POTUS, then the Health Care Law is defunct.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Re: citizenwells | June 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm |


    June 28, 2012

    Read The Transcript Of Today’s Rush Limbaugh June 28, 2012 Show Here:





    Read The Transcript Of Today’s Rush Limbaugh June 28, 2012 Show Here:





    June 28, 2012

    Read The Transcript Of Today’s June 28, 2012 Rush Limbaugh Show Here:



  200. JayJay | June 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
    I’m getting the impression that this isn’t about healthcare for the indigent…they are already covered..it’s really about revenue and taxing the few that can pay.
    Yeah, one word describes it – “CONTROL”.

  201. This is a quote by Newt Gingrich about CJ Roberts:

    “I’m very surprised that he came down like this. I had not contemplated the tax solution because Obama had been so adamant that it was not a tax.

    “This ruling could go down as a major mistake by Roberts or as an extraordinarily clever move and we won’t know for a long time which it is. He clearly has upheld the law, which must make Obama and his supporters happy, but on the other hand, he’s upheld the law on the worst possible grounds for them.”

    “We won’t know for a long time….”, says Newt in regard to Roberts’ move being a mistake or clever move. I tend to agree at this point.

  202. ALL:


    June 28, 2012

    Read The Transcript Of Today’s June 28, 2012 Rush Limbaugh Show Here:


    “RUSH: I checked the e-mail during the break, and people asked me, “Do you really mean, when you say, our freedom of choice just met its death panel?” Yes, I do.”



  203. Remember what the bastard said to the coal companies—oh, you can use coal, but the tax you will be exposed to will shut you down!!!

  204. Philo-Publius

    Obama Wins the Battle, Roberts Wins the War

    The chief justice’s canny move to uphold the Affordable Care Act while gutting the Commerce Clause.

  205. The other deplorable part of this is as Allen West says:

    This is a sad day for Americans, as they will be taxed to pay for benefits they may not need or want as part of the insurance they are forced to buy.

    One size doesn’t fit all but it certainly wastes a whole lot more $$$.

  206. Okay…what Roberts, the traitor, procalimed is like this:
    You don’t have to have a license or insurance to drive, but you’ll be fined if not??

  207. Philo-Publius

    Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli says Obamacare decision is ‘a win for liberty’

    He said that by its 5-4 ruling on the limits of the Commerce Clause, the Court had put in place a “critically important containment of federal power” and that in the parts of the ruling dealing with Medicaid, the justices had for the first time since the New Deal said that Congress has limited power to compel states to act through its spending authority.

  208. Possible Repub slogan: “Read Obama’s lips: No new taxes for healthcare”!!

  209. Philo-Publius

    Ken Cuccinelli, on second thought, likes Supreme Court health-care decision

    “They preserved our first principles protections, our individual liberty protections. They advanced state sovereignty, strangely enough, while keeping the law. That was not one of the combinations that were even in our top five. That permutation was one that we didn’t spend a lot of time thinking was a likely outcome. But here we are. That’s the one we’ve got.”


  210. WHI feels that this ruling is GOOD NEWS. Interesting take and also comments.

    WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: OBAMACARE …”Now we are truly ready to fight.”


  211. “We won’t know for a long time….”, says Newt in regard to Roberts’ move being a mistake or clever move. I tend to agree at this point.
    And while it takes years to see if this was a brilliant move, how many families will go down that rabbit hole to less standarf of living; how many billions will be usurped by a government that can’t live within its means??

  212. Philo-Publius | June 28, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli says Obamacare decision is ‘a win for liberty’
    I think the Commerce Clause for the most part already had its limitations spelled out and agreed upon.

    I tend to agree with Rush, living in realville, that this is an unprecedented ruling of substituting a taxing mechanism as to a way to circumvent that disagreeable Commerce Clause to force citizens to purchase a product they neither want nor perhaps need.

  213. Listening to Nancy Pelosi on C-Span right now…

    I wonder exactly what she has been smoking…..

    my money says some of that San Fran Gold…it has already fried her brain.

  214. Cabby – AZ | June 28, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
    WHI feels that this ruling is GOOD NEWS. Interesting take and also comments.
    WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: OBAMACARE …”Now we are truly ready to fight.”
    Quote from WHI…………
    “The Tea Party movement, which was as real and powerful a political movement as I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, is back in play. That scares the hell out of the Obama White House. You just got a bunch of Dems sweating hard over their re-election”.

    Yep , the troops are rallying already……………..

    Pack clothes, flags, and signs for an Obamacare Tea Party at Forest Park on Art Hill TONIGHT. The rally will begin at 7:00 pm in Forest Park on Art Hill

    Today the Supreme Court issued a historical decision: have we delegated to Congress the power to force people to buy something? The Supreme Court called the mandate a tax and answered “yes”. So we need to work on fixing the Constitution.

    Let’s show LOTS of FLAGS and SIGNS. Let’s dress in lots of RED, WHITE, and BLUE. Let’s pray that we’re celebrating our Second Independence Day—this time, independence from the arbitrary rule of other men.

    Once again, that’s 7:00 on Art Hill in Forest Park. TONIGHT!

    See map at

  215. Jonah
    Do you think that now would be an appropriate time to bring back the VIGILANTES, and the HANGING JUDGES? If they were brought back the best place for them to start would probably be in DC. The oak trees have huge limbs,and would support MULTIPLE GARROTES.

  216. From: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com


    June 28, 2012

    Read The Transcript Of Today’s June 28, 2012 Rush Limbaugh Show Here:




  217. RMINNC………………
    I have always thought that MMMMMSSS. IMPORTANT never really had a BRAIN that is to say a NORMALLY functioning brain. Perhaps that is why she was a “GOOD” friend of JANE FONDA.

  218. For those watching CSPAN re: Holder, I am so proud Trey Gowdy is representing South Carolina!!

  219. When a politician says YOU CAN’T DO THIS or YOU CAN’T DO THAT, I usually say to them…………WATCH US! If the American people decide to REPEAL the Obamacare it WILL HAPPEN irregardless of what ANYBODY THINKS, or what LAWS doing so might break………..simply because if there is enough anger the so called laws will be UNCEREMONIOUSLY shoved up the anuses of the politicians who made the law to begin with. Laws are written GUIDLINES OF CIVILITY……..when our rights are challenged CIVILITY could easily go out the window.

  220. Natasha Korecki says: Former Chicago Ald. Ambrosio medrano, who served 30 months already just walked into fed courtroom in cuffs — he’s charged again
    Moreno and Medrano in court

  221. citizenwells

    Ah, yes indeed, Rebel.

  222. SCarolina…..Yes, he gave a compassioned, compelling speech. We can expect him to go far

  223. citizenwells

    Rebel, I understand.

  224. Starla………………….

    Limbaugh is right on the money. An employee will end up having to purchase his/her own Healthcare Insurance on their own. This used to be an incentive to attract better quality labor. Many small businesses have already long since stopped offering Healthcare coverage. For awhile a few of the medium sized companies simply offerred a slightly increased level of pay, but that has all but fallen by the wayside because of the increased tax attrition on american business. Many foreign countries have been BEGGING American businesses to come to their country. Burma being just one of them,and Honduras being another. I also remember seeing solicitations printed in magazines by countries like Latvia, and some of the other Eastern European countries. India has also advertised, as has Taiwan. So if you operate a moderate sized manufacturing plant, and because of the high cost of labor and continueing union demands your profitability has become NIL you might consider pulling up the stakes and going where the action is. The US government will only continue to ROB you every chance it gets.

  225. Medrano proudly announced at the time [of his first arrest] that he refused investigators’ request to wear a wire and cooperate with the feds.

    “I grew up in a neighborhood where people respect certain things, and one of the things that they respect is that if you get in trouble, you don’t squeal. You take it like a man,” Medrano told reporters at City Hall.

    Oh I think he’s gunna sing like a bird….
    Q: What kind of bird sings the loudest?
    A: A Jailbird

  226. Korecki says: “The alleged schemes involving the former city officials involve contracts with Stroger Hospital among others”

    Was Stroger one of the hospitals overseen by that board Blago added members to?

  227. citizenwells


    From Chicago Breaking News September 13, 2009.

    “Flores-Buhelos initially told police that Friday night she received
    text messages from Kelly — who was married but estranged from his
    wife — saying that he had tried to kill himself, Welch said.

    She then arrived from Chicago at the Forest Lumber Co. parking lot –
    near a storage yard owned by Kelly’s company — and found Kelly inside
    his car, covered in vomit. She pushed him into the passenger seat,
    Welch said, and apparently drove to Oak Forest Hospital.

    What happened there, and the kind of medical care Kelly received after
    arriving, are among the remaining mysteries behind his death.

    After initially seeming incoherent, Kelly apparently became lucid
    enough to speak to police and was, at one point early Saturday
    morning, stabilized.

    Later that morning, his condition apparently deteriorated enough for
    hospital officials to send Kelly to Stroger Hospital in Chicago, about
    25 miles away from Oak Forest.

    Cook County health officials said Oak Forest Hospital doctors thought
    it made more sense for him to be treated at Stroger, which, unlike
    their hospital, has a trauma center.

    When asked why Kelly wasn’t transferred to a closer hospital, Cook
    County Health and Hospitals System spokesman Lucio Guerrero said it’s
    “standard procedure” to transfer patients from one county health
    facility to Stroger when trauma care is needed after they have been

    “The treatment or treatments necessary could be better facilitated at
    Stroger,” wrote Marcel Bright, Stroger Hospital spokesman, in an
    e-mail. “He was stabilized before being transported.”

    Kelly was pronounced dead inside Stroger at 10:46 a.m. Saturday, officials said.”


    “He was stabilized before being transported.”

    Apparently not!



    By Ryan Grim

    Posted: 06/28/2012 1:02 pm
    Updated: 06/28/2012 3:02 pm

    “WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney, reacting to the Supreme Court’s health care ruling Thursday, said, “I agree with the dissent.”

    The dissent tosses out the entire health care law, dismissing the case for it as “feeble” and a “vast judicial overreach.” It argues that “against a mountain of evidence,” its backers offer only the “flimsiest of indications to the contrary.”

    Four of the five Republican appointees on the Court agreed with this interpretation, and it would have carried the day if Chief Justice John Roberts had joined them.

    Had he done so, the “entire statute” — meaning the entire law, from beginning to end — would have been invalidated, including provisions that had already gone into effect.

    Strangely, the dissenting justices argue that even constitutional provisions must be ruled unconstitutional because “the Act’s other provisions would not have been enacted without” it central elements, the mandate and the Medicaid provision. The justices never reveal how they know what would have happened in the alternate reality they posit.

    Did the minority’s uncompromising insistence on invalidating the entire law push Roberts to join the moderates in upholding it? We won’t know until the next tell-all book on the court, but below are excerpts from the dissent, signed by Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Antonin Scalia.”

    Read More Here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/health-care-dissent_n_1634514.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D174223




    “John Roberts was appointed by George W. Bush. His voting record has skewed conservative. But in a 5-4 vote on Obamacare, he shocked the nation.”

    By Luke Johnston

    Posted: 06/28/2012 1:50 pm
    Updated: 06/28/2012 2:05 pm

    “In his majority 5-4 opinion on Thursday, Chief Justice John Roberts upheld the constitutionality of the signature domestic policy achievement of President Barack Obama’s administration, the Affordable Care Act. In doing so, he and his court earned the ire of conservatives.

    “This was an activist court that you saw today,” Tea Party favorite Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) told reporters. “Anytime the Supreme Court renders something constitutional that is clearly unconstitutional, that undermines the credibility of the Supreme Court. I do believe the court’s credibility was undermined severely today,” she said, later adding that Congress could now force you to buy Ikea furniture.

    “The Supreme Court has abandoned us,” Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) said.

    “Today’s decision by the Supreme Court of the United States is simply disappointing,” Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) said. “I stand with Justice Kennedy that the entire act should have been held invalid.”

    Read More Here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/john-roberts-conservatives-health-care-ruling_n_1634512.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D174223

  229. Mr. Wells- I’ll just place this here so as not to clutter up a new thread.


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