Osama and Obama, Bigger news, Borders protected?, Justice Department justice?, Real Blagojevich trial?, Where’s the original birth certificate?, Where’s the justice?
“Why has Obama, after using private and taxpayer funded attorneys for years to keep his birth certificate and college records hidden, placed a computer generated birth certificate and not a certified original copy on WhiteHouse.gov?”…Citizen Wells
“Why did the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee, with Obama as chairman, create and push Bill 1332, “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” early in 2003, which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, just prior to rigging by Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells
“I believe I’m more pristine on Rezko than him.”…Rod Blagojevich
First of all, nothing I am about to present is meant to diminish the efforts of our brave people in the military and intelligence community. These folks work hard to keep us safe everyday and uphold and defend the US Constitution.
Osama bin Laden is dead. One less evil person on the planet.
Obama stated:
“On nights like this one” “we can say that justice has been done.”
My response:
We need justice every day. We need a Justice Department that is not biased and upholds the US Constitution.
We need someone in the White House who follows and upholds the US Constitution.
Osama bin Laden has been taken out. I would be more satisfied with this if we had been securing our borders. If we had people in the federal government who were working with the states to keep illegals out instead of welcoming them for political gain. Where’s the justice?
The case against the New Black Panther Party was dropped and Obama’s buddy Eric Holder has allowed bias to run rampant. Where’s the justice?
The Rod Blagojevich retrial is beginning. The case has been watered down with references to corruption activities tied to Obama minimized. Where’s the justice?
And once again Obama has insulted the American people and thumbed his nose at the Constitution. He presented another document purporting to be a birth certificate, but it was computer generated. It is not, I repeat not a certified copy of an original birth certificate. Where’s the justice?
Here are some recent Citizen Wells articles that explain what the document is and isn’t.
April 28, 2011.
“The following topics are addressed:
Someone(s) is lying.
Overview of WhiteHouse.gov explanation.
Document presented on WhiteHouse.gov site.
Correspondence from Perkins Coie/Obama with the State of Hawaii.
Long form certified copies of original birth certificate have been available for years.
Summary.”
“The document presented on the WhiteHouse.gov site yesterday is nothing more than a COLB (Certification of Live Birth) with additional data from a computer database. It is not an original birth certificate or certified copy of one. It most certainly does not prove birth in Hawaii. It is not the certified copy of a birth certificate like millions of Americans like you and I were required to produce.”
Read more:
April 30, 2011.
“When you view the document placed on WhiteHouse.gov remember it was computer generated. It is not an image file of a complete original birth certificate. It is a composite of data entered into a database(s) in the Hawaii computer systems. The data is as good as the source and the procedures and personnel who controlled the entry and maintained the integrity. From a legal standpoint it proves, if authenticated as having come from the state of Hawaii, that Obama is a US Citizen. It does not prove that he is a natural born citizen.”
“The article heading is at least misleading or an outright lie.
“Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit”
- Jean-Claude Tremblay ia a Adobe-certified expert. He only addressed the issue of document manipulation.
- No mention was made of whether or not Tremblay was a birth certificate expert.
- Tremblay has not been given access to an original birth certificate.
- Tremblay did not say that the document was an authenticate presentation of Obama’s original birth certificate.”
Read more:
And now for some more good old fashioned common sense from NC. Yes, there is still some left and this was put in print in the Rhinoceros Times, based in Greensboro, NC.
“It is strange that we have a president that the people of this country really know very little about. In reading articles about Obama’s life, I have found that the source is usually his own book, Dreams from My Father, which Obama says is not an autobiography. He says that he used composite characters and created events that didn’t necessarily happen, but his book – which is part fact and part fiction – is just about all we know about him.
But there is a question that has come up that is much more important than where Obama was born, or what his grades were in school or how a B student in high school who says himself that he didn’t apply himself in college ended up at Columbia University and Harvard Law School.”
“Several reports before the birth certificate was released stated that even Obama couldn’t get the “original” of his birth certificate. Wow, this is news? It makes it sound like he can’t show people his birth certificate, but what everyone gets is not the original but a certified copy. Of course they don’t give you the original, because if you lose the original how are you going to get a copy? To get a passport around here you have to have a copy of your birth certificate with the seal embossed on it, not the original.
The secretary of health and human services for Hawaii had said that the State of Hawaii keeps the records and that no one is allowed to have a copy of their own birth certificate. Does that mean that the parents are given a copy of the original at the birth of their child, and if they lose that copy or if it burns in a fire, is destroyed by a hurricane, tornado or tsunami, or eaten by the dog, it doesn’t matter? No one is ever allowed a second copy of a birth certificate in Hawaii, unless they happen to be president of the United States and a famous billionaire is making a huge deal out of the fact that said president won’t release his birth certificate?
Obama as usual put that official in a tough spot because first the story was that the birth certificate couldn’t be released and then it was released.
But it was all a big lie anyway. This is 2011. Recently a woman who was born in Hawaii filled out the forms, which are available online, and sent off for her birth certificate. She got a copy of her birth certificate back from the State of Hawaii and put it along with all the paperwork online. If she could do it, certainly our tech savvy president could have done it long ago.
Evidently the head of health and human services in Hawaii doesn’t know what the rules are for his own department, which come to think of it is not all that unusual.
There are many instances in which people might actually need a copy of their long form birth certificate. One would be to sue the doctor who was present at the delivery, another would be to find out who is listed as the father. In North Carolina birth certificates are public records and anyone can obtain a copy. In Hawaii birth certificates, according to the secretary of health, are so confidential that no one other than the president can obtain a copy.
The question remains, why did Obama wait so long and spend so much money to keep his birth certificate from being made public.”
Read more:
http://greensboro.rhinotimes.com/Articles-c-2011-04-27-208186.112113-Under-the-Hammer.html
Citizen WElls 
The admin has known for at least a week or two with very high prob where bin laden was. Release an abstract bc, call it a copy, and then kill bin laden.
Does anyone think I’m a tin foil hatter for making this assumption?
Has anyone else heard about this? If it’s true, I’m walking on air…… 🙂
Ulster Man
Please get this out ASAP. Want specific people to know we know.
RE Osama Bin Laden. Significant push to take him out months ago. Senior WH staff resisted. This was cause of much strain between HC and Obama/Jarrett. HC and LP were in constant communication over matter – both attempted to convince administration to act. Administration feared failure and resulting negative impact on president. Intel disgusted over politics over national security. Staff resigned/left. Check timeline to corroborate.
Now Intel already leaking to media facts surrounding how info obtained. Namely from enhanced interrogation efforts via GITMO prisoners. Obama administration placed in corner on this. Some media aware of danger to president RE this and attempting protection. Others looking for further investigation. We are pushing for them to follow through and already meeting with some access.
Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama. Will clarify as details become more clear. Very clear divide between Military and WH. Jarrett marginalized 100% on decision to take out OBL. She played no part. BD worked with LP and HC to form coalition to force CoC to engage.
IMPORTANT SPECIFIC: When 48 hour go order issued, CoC was told, not requested. Administration scrambled to abort. That order was overruled. This order did not originate from CoC. Repeat – this order did not originate from CoC. He complied, but did not originate.
Independent military contacts have confirmed. Stories corroborate one another. This is legit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgOy71oa3hw
a must watch . i dug up this old interview with obama class mate from colledge who did a radio interview and tells about obama and his marxist beliefs and he had strong beliefs that one day the marxist would take over please watch , dont know why no one is passing this along proof of obamas core beliefs
Has the regime come out and stated which pieces of this farce of a piece of paper it and the courts considered “too embarrassing” to reveal during the numerous eligibility cases?
I didn’t think so.
Concerned Citizen (April 30, 2011 at 8:09 pm) wrote in the preceding “Jana Winter and Fox intentionally misleading Americans? . . .” article:
“The answer to the question that Jerome asks about the Hawaiian registrar’sname is at http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html – this is the best explanation of the birth documentation that I’ve seen so far. Isn’t it convenient that the mother’s passport information can’t be found.”
Thank you VERY MUCH for posting that link, CC. It is the most thorough research into Obama’s COLB that I’ve seen to date. I am going to pass it along to Orly Taitz.
If you’d like to send it to Jerome Corsi, his World Net Daily email address is:
jcorsi@worldnetdaily.com
RT – Orly Taitz States Obama Is Using STOLEN Connecticut SS Number And Provides Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N82eSUnA_B8
Washington Times report – Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery
http://youtu.be/y9a-cFUfZ9Q
Washington Times report – Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9a-cFUfZ9Q
“STAGED OSAMA ASSASSINATION: GET READY FOR MORE WAR”
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
May 2, 2011
http://www.infowars.com/staged-osama-assassination-get-ready-for-more-war/
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From: http://www.prisonplanet.com/inside-sources-bin-ladens-corpse-has-been-on-ice-for-nearly-a-decade.html
“- Former CIA officer and hugely respected intelligence & foreign policy expert Robert Baer, who in 2008 when asked about Bin Laden by a radio host responded, “Of course he is dead.”
– On December 26, 2001, Fox News, citing a Pakistan Observer story, reported that the Afghan Taliban had pronounced Bin Laden dead and buried him in an unmarked grave.
– On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”
– On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore.”
– In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.
– In 2003, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told Fox News Channel analyst Morton Kondracke she suspected Bush knew the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and was waiting for the most politically expedient moment to announce his capture.
– In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.
– In February 2007, Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program, stated that the purported video and audio tapes that were being released of Bin Laden were fake and that he was probably dead.
– On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.
– In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”
– In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”
In April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Foreign Relations member Steve R. Pieczenik, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Bake, told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months.”
In addition to Pieczenik, as we reported in August 2002, Alex Jones was separately told by a high level Republican source that Bin Laden was dead and that his body was being kept “on ice” until Osama’s death could be announced at the most “politically expedient” time.”
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“AL-QAIDA WARNS U.S. OF “BIG REVENGE” OVER OSAMA DEATH –
JIHADIST LEADER SAYS CELLS WORLDWIDE SET TO LAUNCH ATTACKS ON AMERICANS”
By Aaron Klein
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
May 2, 2011
Read More Here: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=293889#ixzz1LEZwYJm2
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kay | May 2, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
Thanks kay,
I had forgotten about that. I watched quite a while ago, but it refreshes my memory and puts many things in perspective.
Julie,
I haven’t given Ulsterman much credibility until now. This was in the April 28 communication:
She pushed out Rahm, she’s alienated many of the most influential Congressional Democrats, she’s pissed off the military – oh that’s another story I’ll have to share with you soon. That one is still playing out right before our eyes though, so we gotta let that one turn out first. She’s gonna get burned on that too.
Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-obamas-west-wing-civil-war/#ixzz1LEleRqVv
Was he talking about bin Laden?
He was referring to Valerie Jarrett.
MUST SEE VIDEO!!
“RUSH: IF OBAMA WASN’T BORN IN THE U.S. – IT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST SCAM EVER”
http://youtu.be/B0JZrA9K7Ec
MUST SEE VIDEO!!
“RUSH: IF OBAMA WASN’T BORN IN THE U.S. – IT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST SCAM EVER”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0JZrA9K7Ec&NR=1\
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Julie T | May 2, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
charo | May 2, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
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What an eye-opener!
Is this really from Ulsterman? I can’t find this latest tidbit at his website. – –
Did Senior Military/Intelligence Officials Overrule President Obama Regarding Mission
President Obama Regarding Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden?
By Ulsterman
A reluctant American president who was ultimately overridden by senior military and intelligence officials to finally take out terrorist Osama Bin Laden…
Note: This communication came from our long time D.C. Insider and details previous and ongoing conflicts surrounding the decision to assassinate terrorist Osama Bin Laden. This has been reproduced here as originally communicated to us.
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Please get this out ASAP. Want specific people to know we know.
RE Osama Bin Laden. Significant push to take him out months ago. Senior WH staff resisted. This was cause of much strain between HC and Obama/Jarrett. HC and LP were in constant communication over matter – both attempted to convince administration to act. Administration feared failure and resulting negative impact on president. Intel disgusted over politics over national security. Staff resigned/left. Check timeline to corroborate
Now Intel already leaking to media facts surrounding how info obtained. Namely from enhanced interrogation efforts via GITMO prisoners. Obama administration placed in corner on this. Some media aware of danger to president RE this and attempting protection. Others looking for further investigation. We are pushing for them to follow through and already meeting with some access.
Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama. Will clarify as details become more clear. Very clear divide between Military and WH. Jarrett marginalized 100% on decision to take out OBL. She played no part. BD worked with LP and HC to form coalition to force CoC to engage.
IMPORTANT SPECIFIC: When 48 hour go order issued, CoC was told, not requested. Administration scrambled to abort. That order was overruled. This order did not originate from CoC. Repeat – this order did not originate from CoC. He complied, but did not originate.
Independent military contacts have confirmed. Stories corroborate one another. This is legit.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com Orly had a case today
http://www.commieblaster.com read latest
I found it through Mikki Booth. I don’t know the person that I got it from, but it was a friend of Mikki’s so I feel it’s legit. And Charo thank you for the link, that article was awesome! I wonder if the big blow out was about the UBL situation….???
Sounds like the messiah is pissing all the wrong people off and “insiders” will be leaking left and right soon. Popcorn for everyone!!!
Genuine White House photo of OBL dead…. LOL
Pattie | May 2, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
Genuine White House photo of OBL dead…. LOL
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If you load it into Illustrator you can see layers!
Attorney Orly Taitz speaks to the media outside the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Pasadena, Monday, May 2, 2011. A federal appeals court in California
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Top-Stories-Photos-Attorney-Orly-Taitz-speaks-media-outside-9th-US-Circuit-Court/ss/705/im:/110502/480/urn_publicid_ap_org37cd45b772a44a0d8f2a6efa9ee3754e/
Where’s the Death Certificate?
Julie T | May 2, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
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After reading your Ulsterman post at 4:06pm, it sure appears that the UBL situation could be what the Insider was referring to in his April 28 story…..
“she’s pissed off the military – oh that’s another story I’ll have to share with you soon. That one is still playing out right before our eyes though, so we gotta let that one turn out first”.
Read more: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-obamas-west-wing-civil-war/#ixzz1LFA3hCN0
messiah flapping his gums, live on fox.
Posted on | May 2, 2011 | No Comments
It seems that today’s hearing went well. The courtroom was………………….want to read more??
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Bankers With Out Boundaries [NWO] ~ Obama’s French Connection: French Felon Nadhmi Auchi & French Felon George Soros!
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/05/02/bankers-with-out-boundaries-nwo-obamas-french-connection-french-felon-auchi-french-felon-george-soros/
Mansion ‘mistake’ piles the pressure on Barack Obama
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece?print=yes&randnum=1204049914796
FOX: Alan Keyes Discusses Natural Born Citizen Issue
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/02/fox-alan-keyes-discusses-natural-born-citizen-issue/
Ziva!!! Hahahahahahaha! You crack me up! Thanks.
Ok, not buying Ulstermann’s B. Daley BS stories, even if they are actually from someone with connections to the WH.
The guy is full of it, and trying BS everyone into thinking there are still conservative Dems left in the DRAT party. Baloney!!
Democrat = Evil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukGx5Dz74q8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wMadhebO5A&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie8mUlaqTJ0&NR=1
Crisis after crisis, drama after drama, lies after lies. Dump Obama now and give us some peace!
Has anyone else heard about this? If it’s true, I’m walking on air……
Ulster Man
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Julie T, this sounds more like the Obama that we know. He was TOLD.
Timing of Phony Birth Certificate Release and Killing of Osama Ben Ladin – Coincidence or Political Strategy?
from Press Briefing by Senior Administration Officials
“In the beginning of September of last year, the CIA began to work with the President on a set of assessments that led it to believe that in fact it was possible that Osama bin Laden may be located at a compound in Pakistan. By mid-February, through a series of intensive meetings at the White House and with the President, we had determined there was a sound intelligence basis for pursuing this in an aggressive way and developing courses of action to pursue Osama bin Laden at this location.
In the middle of March, the President began a series of National Security Council meetings that he chaired to pursue again the intelligence basis and to develop courses of action to bring justice to Osama bin Laden. Indeed, by my count, the President chaired no fewer than five National Security Council meetings on the topic from the middle of March — March 14th, March 29th, April 12th, April 19th, and April 28th. And the President gave the final order to pursue the operation that he announced to the nation tonight on the morning — Friday morning of April 29th.”
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On April 27th AKA Obama released his cropped together phony birth certifcate. Hmmm?
VIDEO – Obama birth certificate is a Fake – analysis of why
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/05/video-obama-birth-certificate-is-fake.html
The Obama lies keep mounting. – ObamaRelease Your Records
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-lies-keep-mounting-obamarelease.html
Busted: White House Now Claims They Ordered Short-Form COLB From Hawaii Department Of Health In 2008 Yet COLB Is Date Stamped 2007
Jonah, I was thinking the SAME thing when I read it about the military thing too. It’s interesting reading the April 28th thing now, it lends more credibility since what he talked about then, happened now.
The details about the fight with BD/VJ were so specific especially the part about 12 minutes… Why would he go into details like that if it was pretend? This was the first article that I really believed to be true…
‘Natural-born citizen’ targeted in more Web sanitizing
Wikipedia has undergone further sanitizing of the philosophical underpinnings of what it means to be a “natural born Citizen” as the Constitution requires for U.S. presidents, the latest in an ongoing “edit war” at the online encyclopedia.
In the most recent development, an unnamed “editor” deleted in its entirety a section of a Wikipedia entry for Swiss legal philosopher Emmerich de Vattel, whom Founding Fathers such as Benjamin Franklin have credited for his influence on early American policy formation
The deleted segment, titled “USA Constitution,” had included a reference to de Vattel’s 1757 treatise “The Law of Nations,” which defined natural-born citizenship as “those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=294221
http://real-agenda.com/2010/08/18/obamas-deep-connections-to-the-cia-revealed/
http://WWW.ROGUEGOVERNMENT.COM
DR.ALLEN KEYES ON FOX BUSINESS TODAY
EXPLAINING NATURAL BORN
http://WWW.COMMIEBLASTER.COM
http://WWW.ORLYTAITZESQ.COM CASE TODAY
http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/08/special-report-the-story-of-obama-all-in-the-company-part-ii/
IMPORTANT!
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There is more analysis on the Obama birth certificate at this link to Birther Report.com. The point is a good one: copy your own birth certificate and see if it looks as brand-new as Obama’s. MUST-READ:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/comparative-analysis-by-pro-graphics.html
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I went to the Drake/Orly Taitz Federal hearing today, and sat next
to Orly for 3 very tedious hours, as we waited for the case. She is
a class act, charming, polite, and sharp as a whip….
She argued very powerfully for STANDING, as her client is freakin’
Alan Keyes! He lost to Obama twice. If he doesn’t have standing
to take him to court on eligibility, who would?????
The 3 judges listened very carefully to Orly, and will rule tomorrow,
and would have to come up with a miraculous reason, to block
Keyes standing. They questioned Obama’s attorneys sharply, who
simply want to avoid the case on technicalities, but did not question
Orly at all. Go to her site for results tomorrow. Plenty of news
cameras were there, and she did mention the Conneticutt fake
SS #
Thanks Jay @ 11:11p.m.
You bet….she also argued she had tried to go thru military channels,
but the military told her Obama was a CIVILIAN! They told her
to go to the Federal Courts. Then she tried Senators, who said they
were in no position to hold a trial, and sent her to the Federal Court,
so she really had exhausted other avenues. The 3 judges were very
surprised that investigations had been held into John McCain in
the past.
The judges were pretty sharp with several attorneys today, arguing
all types of cases, but Orly commanded their respect. Don’t let others
say she is some crazy fool, she’s a pro. Gary Kreep also did well, explaining how Reps. and Dems. in Congress are never going to go to bat for 3rd party candidates. It’s up to Federal judges to intervene. I strongly recommend everyone go to one of these type of Federal hearings….all eyes will be on their decisions and reasons, as to if discovery can proceed in Alan Keyes case. Birtherreport.com is pretty good, as well as Orly’s site. And we
could use some help over on Amazon.com. There are 250 discussions on
Jerome Corsi’s book, but lots of paid Obots. Cheers!
citizenwells (April 29, 2011 at 7:39 pm in “Obama birth certificate update . . . .”), you asked:
“Help me out folks.This Aloha Reporter article with BC was in cache on April 18, 2011.I find no record of a fake being put out by them.The AP link in the article is gone.”
The Aloha Reporter article is also in its original form at:
http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/
That purported BC intrigued me because it appears to present the data authentically, so I’ve been searching for more about it, but the only substantial commentary (though not enough) I could find, so far, is here:
http://escapetyranny.com/2011/05/01/heres-the-birth-certificate-that-appeared-in-the-aloha-reporter-that-says-obama-was-born-in-kenya/
The poster, Ben Hart, wrote:
=== On one line — the Place of Birth line — it says Obama was born in Honoloulu. But on the next line it says he was born in an “Unknown” hospital in Kenya, Africa. ===
Hart apparently didn’t notice the footnote number 1 after Honolulu and before the explication in box 22.
The file number is absent. But might the document photographer (or scanner) have covered the file number to keep it private?
You probably observed the first two signatures appear to have been written by the same hand, although the capital Ms vary. The big question is, why did the signatory omit the ‘e’ in Madelyn’s name. Was Madelyn in a rush or was a forger inept?
And are those first two signatures in fact by the same hand? Look closely at the numbers in the dates following the signatures. Although the slant of those two signatures and dates seem identical, the 8s are different. And, consonant with the 8s’ closed upper ovals in the Madlyn signature, the 6’s oval is closed. Furthermore, the virgules in each of those 8/8/61s appear to be written by different hands. If you zoom in with a capable graphic program, you’ll see the Madlyn virgules are more slender than the Martin virgules. Similarly the strokes in the signatures. Would it occur to a forger that only very slightly differing pressure on his/her pen would be noticed or detected? Or were different pens used?? And wouldn’t a forger strive to make the signatures UNalike?
Also, why would a forger put two Xs in each checkbox? If it’s a forgery, it’s a darned good one, IMO.
That Alohareporter BC is an obvious fake put out by Obots to mock people. Only they would be stupid enough to write in “U.S.A.” under “County, State or Foreign Country.”
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/did-dna-finger-bin-laden–20110502
The White House says that bin Laden was buried at sea. One can only hope they kept some tissue and blood samples to back up the DNA claims.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/05/birth-certificate-anomaly-how-could.html
Birth Certificate Anomaly – How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist?
Click to access birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that the country “Kenya” did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”.
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December 12, 1963: : Kenyan independence day.
1964: The Republic of Kenya (Jamhuri ya Kenya) is formed with Kenyatta as president and Oginga Odinga as vice president. The party KADU dissolves and integrates with KANU. The government is without opposition. Source
http://crawfurd.dk/africa/kenya_timeline.htm
http://www.infowars.com/obama-shamefully-exploits-bin-laden-fairytale-in-transparent-pr-stunt/
Mirroring how George W. Bush stood on the rubble of the twin towers to perform a staged public relations stunt in the aftermath of 9/11 as he enjoyed a huge surge in popular approval, Barack Obama is attempting to pull off the same trick, invoking “9/11-style unity” and busily heading to ground zero tomorrow to shamefully exploit the Bin Laden fairytale his administration has crafted.
Of course, just like in the aftermath of 9/11, which we were told was committed by terrorists who “hate our freedom,” the announcement of Bin Laden’s death has immediately led to the screws being tightened on our freedoms that bit further. Naked body scanners in airports are now set to increase, ridiculous rules about not being allowed to carry liquids on board an aircraft that were set to expire are to be extended, and commuters are already being subjected to increased warrantless searches and harassment.
Obama’s effort to recreate the intellectually castrated, zombie-like collective worship of government and the police state that ruled after 9/11 is a desperate and forlorn act given that nearly two thirds of the country aren’t even fully convinced that he’s a U.S. citizen.
The fact that the Obama administration has feverishly moved to exploit the alleged assassination of Bin Laden in a transparent ploy to secure a second White House term only lends credence to the overwhelming indication that Bin Laden died many years ago and that Sunday’s dramatic raid was nothing more than a Jessica Lynch-style fabrication.
All, consider this. Osama is dead, the White House National Security Director Brennen lied about the chain of events suggesting that Osama used his wife as a human shield and then had to retract that statement. Why? Because 26 Navy Seals were there.
The real problem with the killing of Osama is why tell anyone? The Intel that was found and the people that they captured could have put the terrorist group out of business. Instead for political reasons the White House releases the information concerning Osama’s death only to make the world a more dangerous place and give these fanatical morons a reason to fight another day.
More proof that this administration is only concerned about stimulating the ego maniac’s image and could care less about the well being of our country. In short this information could have been released this time next year, but because of the Obama poll numbers and image they sacrificed the security of our country and relinquished the chance to eradicate this world wide terrorist network.
Obama will now be responsible for any major attack and the blood will be on his fingers.
On a lighter note can you believe Obama killed Osama. Who would ever believe we would have a foreign president named Obama who finially caught up and killed Osama? Think about that?
Sam Sewell | May 3, 2011 at 7:16 am |
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/05/birth-certificate-anomaly-how-could.html
Birth Certificate Anomaly – How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist?
Click to access birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that the country “Kenya” did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”.
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The reason we see Kenya on his birth cert is the same reason we see the name of the hospital that didn’t exist yet on his and the nordyke twins birth certs. Because the haw doh obviously changes things after the fact on “original” birth certificates. The only other explanation would be that the nordyke twins certs were forgeries, too. I’m not quite willing to go there. But, i am willing to say that we now know that there is simply no such thing as an original birth certificate in the state of hawaii.
On another note, isn’t it just as everyone here expected that Obama would show something that is not his original birth certificate and the world would accept it at face value and go in overdrive with their mocking of us. We knew it would happen. Don’t let it get anybody down. We are being mocked by the VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE GUILTY OF THE CRIME. Don’t forget that. It makes it very easy to ignore them.
http://www.debka.com/article/20898/
The photos released of the fortified villa in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden died on Sunday night, May 2, show a satellite dish as well as cables and wires snaking along the outer and inner walls. Smashed computers appear in shots of the interior rooms. Far from dispensing with electronic devices and Internet connections as widely reported, the fortress that was the al Qaeda leader’s last haven proves to have been equipped with both.
All this up-to-date electronic technology would have opened the six-year old building wide to outside intelligence penetration and surveillance. Bin Laden additionally suffered from a kidney disease and was dependent on dialysis treatment and outside medical care – another porthole into the Bin Laden’s establishment.
There was no need therefore to follow the trail of the couriers described as leading the CIA to the hideout of the most wanted terrorist in the world. He occupied a large three-storey building which stuck out on the skyline of the Pakistani garrison town of Abbottabad, 120 kilometers from Islamabad, and towered over neighboring buildings. Pakistani intelligence must have been curious, to say the least, about this sizeable compound when it was built in 2005 just 100 meters from a military academy in a small town housing a military base and generals’ residences.
Bon Appetit Birth Certificate…
The BC was a conspiracy theory. The dual nationality issue is a legal question. Obama always controlled the issue of whether or not he would produce the BC. But the legal issue was never under his control. So he exercised as much control over it as possible by allowing the birth certificate to fester casting a huge shadow over his dual allegiance. Well played, sir.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
Joe | May 3, 2011 at 7:51 am |
All, consider this. Osama is dead, the White House National Security Director Brennen lied about the chain of events suggesting that Osama used his wife as a human shield and then had to retract that statement. Why? Because 26 Navy Seals were there.
The real problem with the killing of Osama is why tell anyone? The Intel that was found and the people that they captured could have put the terrorist group out of business. Instead for political reasons the White House releases the information concerning Osama’s death only to make the world a more dangerous place and give these fanatical morons a reason to fight another day.
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Perhaps they felt they needed the “killing of osama” to strike the al qaeda control center deep in Pakistan in a military town.
Do you really think that was osama they killed? If so why haven’t they released all the videos of the attack? Why was the suspect shot in the face? Why was the body hastily buried at sea where it can not be exhumed?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17535
“Coming soon to a Mac near you: serious malware”
“Now I am seeing evidence that the next target is OS X. That’s potentially very bad news for Mac owners who have abandoned their PCs in the belief that switching to a Mac somehow immunizes them from malware.
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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/coming-soon-to-a-mac-near-you-serious-malware/3212
ALERT!!!
Senate Sneaks RFID Drivers License, Internet ID into Transportation Bill
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/02/senate-sneaks-rfid-drivers-license-internet-id-into-transportation-bill/
Homeland Security and Police Attack WIU Students G20 Style, Police State In Full Force
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/02/homeland-security-and-police-attack-wiu-students-g20-style-police-state-in-full-force/
If it was truly osama that they had killed, bo would have released the videos and photos immediately. They would not have shot the suspect in the face. They would not have buried him hastily at sea. I do believe that they destroyed an al qaeda control center, but that was not osama that they buried at sea.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20110502/twl-can-us-offer-final-proof-of-osama-s-3fd0ae9.html
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US officials have said DNA testing has proved the al Qaeda leader was killed in a villa in Pakistan.
They have also identified him by facial recognition.
But photographs of Bin Laden after his reported death have not been released.
The fact his body was buried at sea has so far only added to the speculation…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufKv-5t0t4E&feature=player_embedded#at=288
Breaking News Alert!! May 1 New Madrid Disaster Being Carried Out
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/602/343/Breaking_News_Alert_May_1_New_Madrid_Disaster_Being_Carried_Out.html
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/usc.cgi?ACTION=BROWSE&title=9usc&PDFS=YES
OF SILLINESS AND CARNIVAL BARKERS
Given his hatred of Americans and all things America, this was quite obviously a deliberate “in your face” move by Obama and his minions who could then sit back and laugh uproariously at the stupidity of those who bow and scrape at his feet.
The news media proclaimed, to all who would agree, that Obama was born in the United States, as though that were the qualifier to be eligible to the office of president. They screamed it from the roof-tops, blasted it from their news desks, proclaimed it in print. One has to wonder if they are really and truly that stupid.
http://www.nbcfund.com/chatforum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1069&start=180
This is the link to the above article I meant to include from Steven’s site.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter195.htm
Sam Sewell | May 3, 2011 at 7:16 am |
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/05/birth-certificate-anomaly-how-could.html
Birth Certificate Anomaly – How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist?
Click to access birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that the country “Kenya” did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”.
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People keep bring up this issue but this Map of Africa put out by National Geographic in 1960 clearly shows the little country of Kenya with the letters UK underneath. Use the click to zoom function to see. It may not have been official but it was most likely commonly accepted as Kenya. I’m not on Obama’s side but sometimes you have to clear away things like this to focus on others.
http://www.maps.com/map.aspx?pid=15853
Julie T | May 2, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
Has anyone else heard about this? If it’s true, I’m walking on air……
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What is the link please for this specific info re: military vs wh on final UBL kill?
Gateway pundit reports this morning that Obama has known for months with a high degree of certainty that bin laden was in that compound. He releases his fraudulent bc a week before he gives the ok to kill bin laden. Wag the dog. Clincher.
The birth certificate is just as much an obligation to be president as the two citizen parent. We should not drop investigation of it or the ss#, which if he is fraudulantly using would also disqualify him from being president, or the voluntary surrender if his law license, which if he surrendered it to escape a crime would also disqualify him from being president, and possible crimes with the rezko deal.
If we only focus on the two citizen parent issue and the supreme courts takes a dump on us, we are nowhere.
We can walk and chew gum at the same time.
yo | May 3, 2011 at 9:19 am |
Don’t forget about the Royal Wedding and the scheduled Shuttle Launch. The bo regime was clearly wanting to divert attention from the NBC issue by releasing the forged BC right before all those news events and it looks like the regime was successful in making bo’s NBC status a non-issue.
GORDO | May 3, 2011 at 8:19 am |
“Coming soon to a Mac near you: serious malware”
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Thank you, GORDO, for that link. I am going to email it to the Mac Clinic that I use. Appreciate the info!
observer | May 3, 2011 at 9:12 am |
Julie T | May 2, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
Has anyone else heard about this? If it’s true, I’m walking on air……
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What is the link please for this specific info re: military vs wh on final UBL kill?
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Here’s the link:
http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
What happened to Trump? Why isn’t he out there telling the world about the obvious forgery, that is, Obama’s phony long form bc?
Is everyone just going to give up, and say the issue about Obama’s lack of eligibility is over? Obama doesn’t have a US birth certificate or he would have provided it a long time ago. The birth certificate, and where he was born, is a secondary issue anyway, what he is hiding, and confusing the people about, is his foreign born allegiances.
Maybe Orly Taitz can “nail” the illegal alien for using a phony Social Security number, and for forging his Selective Service registration, that was filled out using the phony SS number.
Traitors are going full speed ahead, covering up the details of Obama’s eligibility, and multiple citizenships. These people need to be labeled, domestic enemies. To ignore the Constitutional qualifications for the President of the USA, and instill an unqualified person, who may be an illegal alien, that refuses to show ID, these people have committed treason.
http://www.africareview.com/News/Tight+security+at+Obama+grannys+home/-/979180/1154986/-/se6h76/-/
Security has been heightened at the Kogelo rural home of the grandmother of US President Barack Obama following the killing of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.
More police officers have been deployed to man Mama Sarah Obama’s in homestead western Kenya following fears of a terrorist attack in retaliation for the killing of Osama by US special forces.
According to the local Siaya police boss Stephen Cheteka, they decided to beef-up security for the relatives of the US President after receiving threats of a planned terrorist attack three days ago.
“We received reports of plans to attack the home of Mama Sarah Obama three days ago and we immediately put in place adequate security measures,” Mr Cheteka said.
Part of a comment by Miri at WTPOTUS:
“… this story at Snopes http://snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp , which FALSELY states that Dr. West was the delivering obstetrician. It’s so hilarious because Snopes has added the long-form bc to their “debunking the birthers” story, but they FORGOT to change the article to take out the FACT that they formerly reported AS FACT that Dr. West was the delivering physician. They’re truly a regular riot! What “factcheckers”!”
Bob Strauss , No one will listen right now. Now is not a good time as the Media and some People are back drooling over bho. Although Some are questioning the sea burial with “honors”. Trump has stated on His tweet “this week belongs to the active armed forces” We give them our Support. So hang tough we will get to the bottom of this soon. You can follow him @realdonaldtrump
tweet. or here http://twitter.com/#!/realdonaldtrump Lets keep the faith.
http://www.infowars.com/media-builds-strawman-argument-around-dead-obl-photos/
The establishment media has manufactured a strawman argument centered around the false premise that when the White House releases an image of Osama Bin Laden with a bullet through his head, which we’re told is imminent, that instantly puts to bed every “conspiracy theory” (ie truth and documented cover-up) surrounding OBL’s dubious history as the head of Al-Qaeda, a US intelligence front.
“The photograph, according to sources who have seen it, is bloody and gruesome, with a bullet wound to his head above his left eye. There are concerns its release could be inflammatory, though officials also say it’s important to put to rest any skepticism about the death of this nation’s public enemy number one,” reports ABC News.
But the “conspiracy theorists” never claimed that Bin Laden was still alive, and indeed before Sunday were lambasted by the corporate media for pointing out the blindingly obvious fact that every respected intelligence professional already knew – that Bin Laden has been dead for a number of years.
Osama Bin Laden to Cause U.S. Hyperinflation
NIA is very pleased that Osama Bin Laden has been neutralized and is no longer a threat to American citizens. During a White House press event yesterday, counterterrorism adviser John Brennan was answering reporters questions and made the comment that al Qaeda “is becoming increasingly bankrupt”. Unfortunately, Mr. Brennan got this backwards. The United States is becoming increasingly bankrupt as a result of al Qaeda.
Although America has been safe since 9/11, we need to look at what the cost has been. The U.S. military is currently spending just as much as all other militaries around the world combined. If the U.S. experiences hyperinflation as a result of our military spending, we will no longer be able to protect ourselves from terrorism in the future. The U.S. is currently spending about $1 trillion annually on maintaining a military empire around the world. This is unsustainable, as we are relying on borrowing and printing money to fund this, and Americans are now paying the price with massive inflation in food and energy prices.
The U.S. military captured Bin Laden in Pakistan using a special team comprised of about two dozen navy seals. In other words, the trillions we have spent fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were all for nothing. We could have captured Bin Laden without our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and have much smaller annual budget deficits and a much lower national debt today, with a much stronger U.S. dollar.
NIA believes that with the capture of Bin Laden, now is the time to bring our troops home from Afghanistan. There is also no reason for the U.S. to be supporting the war in Libya, when Libya presents no threat to the U.S. In recent U.S. led NATO strikes in Libya, we killed Muammar Gadhafi’s son and several of his grandchildren who were under the age of 12. There was absolutely no reason for us to take the lives of Gadhafi’s innocent young grandchildren. Yes, Libya did kill some of their own citizens who were protesting the government, but it is possible that U.S. led NATO forces have now killed more innocent civilians in Libya than the Libyan government. Syria has been killing a lot more anti-government protesters than Libya. If our military is currently occupying Libya, it only makes sense for the U.S. military to invade Syria as well, but NIA believes there is no reason for us to attack either. We can’t police the entire world when we simply don’t collect enough tax revenues to fund it.
We hate to say it, but if the U.S. experiences hyperinflation within the next few years, it will be what Bin Laden wanted. If the incomes and savings of Americans no longer have enough purchasing power to put food on the table and heat homes, many more Americans will die from hyperinflation than were killed on 9/11. Yes, we finally got him, but we had to borrow and print trillions of dollars over nearly a decade and there are no signs of our military spending slowing down. The success of killing Bin Laden could potentially be used as an excuse to increase military spending to all new record highs. The purchasing power of the U.S. dollar is crashing to new all time lows on a daily basis. This is not an “orderly” collapse. The dollar is falling off of a cliff and a worldwide rush out of the dollar could be imminent. A weak U.S. dollar as a result of our massive budget deficits, largely from military spending, is the worst possible thing for the homeland security of our country.
It is important to spread the word about NIA to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible, if you want America to survive hyperinflation. Please tell everybody you know to become members of NIA for free immediately at: http://inflation.us
During the 2008 Presidential election, the press asked Obama if he knew Daniel T. Frawely was Tony Rezko’s partner, he said he “did not”….WHAT he didn’t know was that Frawley was cooperating and wearing a wire from MARCH of 2006, the entire time he was seeking to rivive the Companion Security contract with Iraqi authorities…THE entire time he was communicating with Seamus Ahern from his Moline office, FRAWLEY was wearing a wire…The U.S.Attorney’s office and the FBI know that Obama lied, they know he took money from Rezko and his partner but they are prosecuting Rod instead??? they have dropped charges that may have implicated the President….They have gone so far as to request that the Judge elliminate segments of conversations where the President’s name is mentioned….The Judge has refused the request for the 2 hour meeting between Fitzgerald and Obama even after the Balanoff testimony….THIS is not a trial IT’S a popularity contest…
bob strauss | May 3, 2011 at 9:41 am |
Georgtown | May 3, 2011 at 10:04 am |
If SCOTUS will not hear an eligibility case, congress will not investigate bo’s ineligibility and the msm will not cover it, then how are Patriots going to get bo legally removed by pursuing eligibility lawsuits?
IMHO, the Grand Jury Process is the only option left to legally remove bo.
Did Senior Military/Intelligence Officials Overrule President Obama Regarding Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden?
http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
Published by Ulsterman on May 2, 2011
A reluctant American president who was ultimately overridden by senior military and intelligence officials to finally take out terrorist Osama Bin Laden…
Note: This communication came from our long time D.C. Insider and details previous and ongoing conflicts surrounding the decision to assassinate terrorist Osama Bin Laden. This has been reproduced here as originally communicated to us.
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Please get this out ASAP. Want specific people to know we know.
RE Osama Bin Laden. Significant push to take him out months ago. Senior WH staff resisted. This was cause of much strain between HC and Obama/Jarrett. HC and LP were in constant communication over matter – both attempted to convince administration to act. Administration feared failure and resulting negative impact on president. Intel disgusted over politics over national security. Staff resigned/left. Check timeline to corroborate.
Now Intel already leaking to media facts surrounding how info obtained. Namely from enhanced interrogation efforts via GITMO prisoners. Obama administration placed in corner on this. Some media aware of danger to president RE this and attempting protection. Others looking for further investigation. We are pushing for them to follow through and already meeting with some access.
Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama. Will clarify as details become more clear. Very clear divide between Military and WH. Jarrett marginalized 100% on decision to take out OBL. She played no part. BD worked with LP and HC to form coalition to force CoC to engage.
IMPORTANT SPECIFIC: When 48 hour go order issued, CoC was told, not requested. Administration scrambled to abort. That order was overruled. This order did not originate from CoC. Repeat – this order did not originate from CoC. He complied, but did not originate.
Independent military contacts have confirmed. Stories corroborate one another. This is legit.
The killing of Osama Bin Laden was in fact a Coup within Obama WH.
Rob | May 3, 2011 at 10:16 am |
Did Senior Military/Intelligence Officials Overrule President Obama Regarding Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden?
(May 3, 2011) — A report which is quickly gaining traction on the web suggests that Obama did not want to take out Osama bin Laden but was overridden by senior military commanders who ordered Navy Seals to carry out the successful operation.
Dr Ron Polland | May 3, 2011 at 9:58 am | Reply
The only thing ludicrous about the birth certificate issue is the inescapable fact that Obama has never provided a single shred of VALID, CONCRETE EVIDENCE to prove who he is and where he was born…
Everything about Obama has been faked and fabricated. He could kill 100 Bin Ladens and that won’t change the reality that we have an imposter in the White House taking his marching orders from a shadow government.
“People keep bring up this issue but this Map of Africa put out by National Geographic in 1960 clearly shows the little country of Kenya with the letters UK underneath. Use the click to zoom function to see. It may not have been official but it was most likely commonly accepted as Kenya. I’m not on Obama’s side but sometimes you have to clear away things like this to focus on others.”
So, I guess you would have us believe that the State of Hawaii would have designated a birth place in a country that didn’t exist yet even if it was unofficially being called by the name “Kenya” by people who lived in East Africa? Of is your explanation that the State of Hawaii allowed people to personally designate their place of birth even if the country did not officially exist?
Thanks Bessie.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bin-ladens-neighbour-none-of-this-is-true.html
A resident of Abbottabad who witnessed the raid says he believes it is simply not true that Bin Laden was hiding out in a compound within yards of his own home.
So, I guess you would have us believe that the State of Hawaii would have designated a birth place in a country that didn’t exist yet even if it was unofficially being called by the name “Kenya” by people who lived in East Africa? Of is your explanation that the State of Hawaii allowed people to personally designate their place of birth even if the country did not officially exist?
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No but that under paid under educated government Clerk who typed up the document might. It was 1961 after all. Things were not as organized and official as you might think. I’ll give you an example. One of the new immigration documents just released on Obama Sr. lists KENYA under RACE!!! Was that the official thinking at the time?
Still this was clearly a forged document.
Bob Strauss……………………
Hang in there Bob, I think that the deafening silence that you now hear is only the LULL before the perfect storm. I am closely watching Orly’s progress. While I am definitely not holding my breath, I perceive the notion that the court might now be willing to at least take a limited look. The multiple events of the last few days is CLEARLY re orienting a HELL of a lot of the DEMS. If Soetoro was actually overriden by the CIA, it had to include the JOINT CHIEFS. Perhaps now there is enough hostility towards Soetoro for the JOINT CHIEFS to QUESTION the legality of Soetoro’s tenure at the WH. This coming so close on the heels of the new PHONEY BC says a lot of things,but adds up to increasing dissaray of the perincipal WH leadership. I tend to think that the caldron is now boiling violently, and there is sufficient question now to justify Congressional action. Will congress convene a FEDERAL GRAND JURY. If they do they will be comitted,and will be forced to finish what they start. The state of the country is slipping badly,Congress knows it ,and so does all Americans. Congress will have to take significant action very soon, or they too could end up in the soup lines with everyone else. If they possess any intelligence at all they will take a final action by voting to convene a Federal Grand jury to invesatigate Soetoro,completely. They will also need to have the power to override the DOJ withregard to SUBPOENA POWER.. They will need to have the power to legally overide any/and all XOs issuesd by Soetoro that were put in place to prevent the subpoena of any and/or all of his personal records, along with all of the records of all of his aids….including MMMMMSSSS. Jarrett. I think that the liklihood of this happening is now stronger than ever.
CW…………………….
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Trump contacted you and asked for everything,and anything you have about Soetoro. Lets just say that I have a GUT feeling on this one.
Bridgette | May 3, 2011 at 11:12 am | Reply
Great line… “He could post an image of dog poop and convince the liberal media that it is really chocolate mousse.”
We are doing what we can to prove his latest creation another forgery..but the media is now hooked on the news of the day…Osama and what a great leader we now have in Obama. Never mind his incompetence up to this point and his intent to destroy our way of life. Now he is finally showing he has a spine. If you don’t believe me, just look at the ladies on The View, who fell all over his majesty’s magnificence. Don’t forget Oprah’s interview with the Marxist family recently where Michelle couldn’t clap hard enough for her husband finally producing another “authentic” BC. The fawning has been reinvigorated for the campaign. This is now Obama’s fall back..as there is nothing else that he has done that has had any positive impact on our country, our nation. Now he can appear as a patriot. Listen for the music in the background.. they even starting playing the presidential song when he enters a room. Alexrod and Plouffe are workin’ their black magic.
Pakistan was illegally invaded, foreign nationals were killed on the premise that OBL was there,
ABC news intimated a dialysis machine was not found at the compound,
Incriminating evidence was dropped ananonymously into the sea,
Scary thought of the day,
What if they’re covering up a screw up?
obots are now calling for a FEDERAL GRAND JURY to “investigate” bo is all part of bo’s endgame to have criminal cases against him “prosecuted” by Holder in DC where he can get bo acquitted of all charges as he did for the Terrorist he “prosecuted” in NYC and got acquitted of all the murders of Americans.
TruthSeeker | May 3, 2011 at 11:59 am |
Pakistan was illegally invaded, foreign nationals were killed on the premise that OBL was there,
ABC news intimated a dialysis machine was not found at the compound,
Incriminating evidence was dropped ananonymously into the sea,
Scary thought of the day,
What if they’re covering up a screw up?
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Yes, it is possible that they thought osama was there and had to cover up when they discovered that he was not, but it is more likely that they knew osama was already dead but used his ghost as a means of justifying the attack deep within Pakistan of an al qaeda control center.
To Anonymouse (May 3rd 12:29 AM) – Mr. Corsi has been emailed. Thanks for your comment. Concerned Citizen
And the lies continue to come to light – be sure and post about these, if you can!
WHITE HOUSE CHANGES STORY – Part ?
“The White House backed away Monday evening from key details in its narrative about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, including claims by senior U.S. officials that the Al Qaeda leader had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.
“Officials also retreated from claims that one of bin Laden’s wives was killed in the raid and that bin Laden was using her as a human shield before she was shot by U.S. forces.
“At a televised White House briefing Monday afternoon, Deputy National Security Adviser John Brennan said bin Laden joined in the fight that several residents of the Abbottabad, Pakistan, compound put up against the Navy SEALs during the 40-minute operation.
“’He [bin Laden] was engaged in a firefight with those that entered the area of the house he was in. And whether or not he got off any rounds, I quite frankly don’t know,’ Brennan said.
“At a Pentagon briefing earlier in the day, a senior defense official said bin Laden used a woman as a human shield so he could fire shots. “He was firing behind her,” the official said.
“In another background briefing early Monday morning, a senior administration official also said bin Laden put up a fight. ‘He did resist the assault force. And he was killed in a firefight,’ the official said.
“However, during a background, off-camera briefing for television reporters later Monday, a senior White House official said bin Laden was not armed when he was killed, apparently by the U.S. raid team.
“Another White House official familiar with the TV briefing confirmed the change to POLITICO, adding, ‘I’m not aware of him having a weapon.'”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html#ixzz1LI4HYp8Z
“Justification”,
Good call, FS.
Hadn’t thought of that.
Miss Tickly Proves Obama’s New Document Is A Fraud.
Miss Tickly has just published the most damning condemnation of Obama’s alleged longformish birther certificate. Her research once again is above and beyond anything else I have seen on this issue.
While I have always believed Obama was born in Hawaii, this document recently offered is an obvious forgery on many different fronts. Proper credit to those who spotted other anomalies, but Miss Tickly has done something others have failed to do. She’s really proved it’s a fake and she deserves serious credit for ingenuity of analysis.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/miss-tickly-proves-obamas-new-document-is-a-fraud/
TruthSeeker | May 3, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
“Justification”,
Good call, FS.
Hadn’t thought of that.
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Yes, it was much easier to justify an attack on osama than it would have been to justify an attack deep within Pakistan on unknown al qaeda members.
Afternoon CW, OldSalt79, et. al.
Just a quick headsup from facebook.
Ulster Man
Fantastic clarification regarding Osama Bin Laden information coming from Insider to be posted soon. I will say this – Have a newfound respect for Leon Panetta. WOW.
GYEBALEKO (J BA LE KO) – Luganda for ‘Thank You For Your Work’
My Personal Commenting Code
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
GYEBALEKO (J BA LE KO) – Luganda for ‘Thank You For Your Work’
My Personal Commenting Code
Has anyone seen this, be warned that the picture gross. The question is, was it photo-shopped?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100085835/why-that-photo-of-a-dead-osama-bin-laden-is-almost-certainly-a-photoshopped-fake/
obamareleaseyourrecords has a link to C-Span video on Orly’s hearing.
Header on blank image reads “hasn’t been broadcast yet”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuvZq8I1m_M&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEsesnzDBvA&feature=related
bo regime is now reneging on releasing the fake photos of obl’s body.
“BARACK OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE; SO FAKE IT HAD TO BE DONE ON PURPOSE”
“I know my readers have been waiting for my reaction to the obviously assembled document that the White House threw up on their website this morning. Once again, I will state unequivocally that the BC does not matter, the fact that this SOB has three different citizenships (American, British, and Indonesian) disqualifies his sorry golf-teeing ass from being president. Second, we all knew that whatever document was presented was going to be a fake because it’s been years since we have been asking for this document and ‘that’s how it’s done in Chicago’, and third, Donald Trump was the man enlisted to bring up the issue so that a document could be released without drawing attention to the when of it. The only curiosity questions I have left is ‘why obviously forged’ and ‘why now?’ Who gains and how?
“In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” – Franklin D. Roosevelt
Now for the forgery. First up; Karl Denninger of MarketTicker.org showing that the AP’s scan of the document the White House gave them is just that; a scan. He then shows the document that was posted on the White House website as a manufactured photoshop document that has layers, overlays, no ‘scan landmarks’, color blurring, etc.
Next up, Alex Jones and one of his photoshop experts explaining the layering, original print and added print, and wondering why the White House would release an obviously assembled document.
Meanwhile, and while you are most definitely not watching, Ben Bernanke, Fed Chairman, gave the first ever Federal Reserve press conference (which I will cover tomorrow after more rest), and four star general, David Petraeus being tapped as the new head of the CIA. Is anybody else asking the glaring question of how a military general goes from overseeing combat operations to the most corrupt intelligence service in the world? Maybe this will help… David Petraeus:
General Petraeus was the General George C. Marshall Award winner as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983. He subsequently earned MPA and Ph.D. degrees in international relations from Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, and he later served as an Assistant Professor of International Relations at the US Military Academy. He also completed a fellowship at Georgetown University.
Are you feeling good about his appointment now, or do you feel like the war against American sovereignty and liberty has just been ramped up? Does anybody else feel like a whole hell of a lot more has been going on for a very long time inside the military-industrial complex than even we have been able to dig up. Damn…I was just starting to feel like I was catching up… UPDATE: And then I just remembered this happening today…
U.S. Effort to Remove Drug CEO Jolts Firms…”
Read More Here: http://logisticsmonster.com/2011/04/28/barack-obamas-birth-certificate-so-fake-it-had-to-be-done-on-purpose/
A government attempt to oust a longtime drug-company chief executive over his company’s marketing violations is raising alarms in that industry and beyond about a potential expansion of federal involvement in the business world. The Department of Health and Human Services this month notified Howard Solomon of Forest Laboratories Inc. that it intends to exclude him from doing business with the federal government. This, in turn, could prevent Forest from selling its drugs to Medicare, Medicaid and the Veterans Administration. If the government implements its ban, Forest would have to dump Mr. Solomon, now 83 years old, in order to protect its corporate revenue. No drug company, large or small, can afford to lose out on sales to the federal government, a major customer. The campaign against drug-company CEOs is part of a larger Obama administration effort to pursue individual executives blamed for wrongdoing rather than simply punishing companies. The government has tried to prosecute Wall Street executives in connection with the 2008 financial crisis, but with limited success.
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While I have no sympathy for any musbro Terrrorists, the regime has admitted that they shot an unarmed suspect alleged to be osama in cold blood. No wonder they disposed of the suspect alleged to be osama so hastily and have withheld the videos of the assault.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162_Page2.html#ixzz1LJvlfjT1
Carney read a statement to reporters Tuesday seeking to clarify discrepancies. He said bin Laden “was not armed.” When a U.S. “assaulter” approached bin Laden, the Al Qaeda leader’s “wife” rushed the assaulter. That woman was shot but not killed, Carney said.
“What is true,” Carney said, is that “we provided a great deal of information with great haste.”
The White House didn’t offer a reason Monday for any of the changes. However, Brennan noted during his televised briefing that his information came from reports from the scene as well as live video feeds of the raid. “I wasn’t there,” he said.
As Carney clarified the White House narrative Tuesday, he noted that there is a discrepancy…
“Even I’m getting confused,” Carney said.
Scroll Down This Page To See This:
MUST SEE VIDEO:
“WAYNE MADSEN: BIN LADEN DEATH, LOOKS LIKE STAGED TERROR TO ESCALATE U.S. INTO NUCLEAR WAR 1/2”
Comments Under This Article:
“ono
May 2, 2011 | 1:29 pm
LOL. The whole Osama dead news is as fake as the usurper in chief. that’s what news we get when the crook in chief is desperate for ratings.
Bin Laden was dead long ago.”
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“Leaping Spark
May 2, 2011 | 1:52 pm
Osama Bin Laden has been dead since 2001, this is such a fraud being perpetrated on the American people. DNA testing takes time, but we are being told that it was confirmed immediately that they had Bin Laden by DNA testing.
What a coincidence, they buried him at sea, instead of bringing back to the US for forensic testing to determine who it was they killed.
Whoever this person was, he was in the way of the Muslim Brotherhoods creation of the new Muslim empire.
The Muslim Brotherhood is already insisting that the US get out of Irag, and Afghanistan now that Bin Laden is dead for the second or third time.
This whole deal was staged and Buttcrack is in it up to his big floppy ears. Mark my words, Buttcrack will claim victory in Irag and Afghanistan and move our troops out, which will allow the Muslim Brotherhood to move in.
This is nothing but NWO Communism and the Muslim Brotherhood collaborating with Obama to get one step closer to their final goal of world domination.”
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The regime has now admitted that the suspect alleged to be osama was unarmed. So why was did they kill him and hurriedly dispose of his body?
If it was truly osama, then certainly they would have wanted to interrogate him and gather valuable info about al qaeda as they did with KSM whom they also found inside Pakistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, on March 1, 2003, by the Pakistani ISI, possibly in a joint action with agents of the American Diplomatic Security Service, and has been in U.S. custody since that time.
List of confessions
The February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City
A failed “shoe bomber” operation
The October 2002 attack in Kuwait
The nightclub bombing in Bali, Indonesia
A plan for a “second wave” of attacks on major U.S. landmarks after the 9/11 attacks, including the Library Tower in Los Angeles, the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Plaza Bank Building in Seattle and the Empire State Building in New York
Plots to attack oil tankers and U.S. naval ships in the Straits of Hormuz, the Straits of Gibraltar and in Singapore
A plan to blow up the Panama Canal
Plans to assassinate Jimmy Carter
A plot to blow up suspension bridges in New York City
A plan to destroy the Sears Tower in Chicago with burning fuel trucks
Plans to “destroy” Heathrow Airport, Canary Wharf and Big Ben in London
A planned attack on “many” nightclubs in Thailand
A plot targeting the New York Stock Exchange and other U.S. financial
targets
A plan to destroy buildings in Eilat, Israel
Plans to destroy U.S. embassies in Indonesia, Australia and Japan in
2002.
Plots to destroy Israeli embassies in India, Azerbaijan, the Philippines and Australia
Surveying and financing an attack on an Israeli El-Al flight from Bangkok
Sending several “mujahideen” into Israel to survey “strategic targets” with the intention of attacking them
The November 2002 suicide bombing of a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya
The failed attempt to shoot down an Israeli passenger jet leaving
Mombasa airport in Kenya
Plans to attack U.S. targets in South Korea
Providing financial support for a plan to attack U.S., British and Jewish targets in Turkey
Surveillance of U.S. nuclear power plants in order to attack them
A plot to attack NATO’s headquarters in Europe
Planning and surveillance in a 1995 plan (the “Bojinka Operation”) to bomb 12 American passenger jets
The planned assassination attempt against then-U.S. President Bill Clinton during a mid-1990s trip to the Philippines.
“Shared responsibility” for a plot to kill Pope John Paul II
Plans to assassinate Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf
An attempt to attack a U.S. oil company in Sumatra, Indonesia, “owned by the Jewish former [U.S.] Secretary of State Henry Kissinger”
The beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl
“EXCLUSIVE: ‘BIN LADEN DEAD’ HOAX EXPOSED”
VIDEO!!
May 2, 2011
http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-bin-laden-dead-hoax-exposed/
Excerpt:
“Alex Jones exposes the contrived “victory” in the War on Terror surrounding a man who many experts have said was already dead for years. After nearly a decade of “hunting” for Bin Laden, he is summarily shot in the head and allegedly dumped into the ocean (conveniently making the body unavailable). So goes the official life of Osama bin Laden (aka Tim Osman), one of the CIA’s most useful patsies and assets.”
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“INSIDE SOURCES: BIN LADEN’S CORPSE HAS BEEN ON ICE FOR NEARLY A DECADE”
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 2, 2011
Excerpt:
“A multitude of different inside sources both publicly and privately, including one individual who personally worked with Bin Laden at one time, told us directly that Osama’s dead corpse has been on ice for nearly a decade and that his “death” would only be announced at the most politically expedient time.
That time has now come with a years-old fake picture being presented as the only evidence of his alleged killing yesterday, while Bin Laden’s body has been hastily dumped into the sea to prevent anyone from finding out when he actually died.
In April 2002, over nine years ago, Council on Foreign Relations member Steve R. Pieczenik, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, and James Baker, told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months”.”
Read More Here: http://www.infowars.com/inside-sources-bin-ladens-corpse-has-been-on-ice-for-nearly-a-decade/#comments
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What’s going down? I can’t get on Dr. Orly Taitz site, it has crashed….
Very suspicious, as the Federal Court ruling should be today.
“WHITE HOUSE ‘BIRTHER’ STRATEGY BACKFIRES”
By Les Kinsolving © 2011
May 03, 2011
Excerpt:
“If press secretary Carney was being entirely forthright in his rebuke of CNN, then he must have been denied any information about that new birth certificate. If that presidential denial – of enormously important information to his top spokesman – is what happened, how can spokesman Carney ever recover any of the credibility that is so important in the White House dealings with this nation’s free press?
Why did it take so long (more than two years) for the Obama administration to reveal this latest birth certificate to the American people?
How much in legal fees did President Obama spend in resisting legal efforts concerning his birth certificate?
Is the governor of Hawaii (who claimed he just couldn’t find this new birth certificate) grateful that the president has, at last, relieved him of this search problem?
All this brings to memory my covering the White House in the last year of the presidency of Richard Nixon – and watching the obvious desperation of press secretary Ron Ziegler.”
Read more: “WHITE HOUSE ‘BIRTHER’ STRATEGY BACKFIRES”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293929#ixzz1LK5U5afL
“CLERIC: JIHAD COMING TO ‘HEART OF AMERICA’ – AL-QAIDA REVENGE ATTACKS TO HAVE ‘DEVASTATING EFFECT'”
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
Excerpt:
“The death of Osama bin Laden will bring a “new era of jihad,” predicted British extremist cleric Anjem Choudary.
Warning there are motivated jihadists “in the heart of America,” Choudary said al-Qaida will likely carry out revenge operations with “meticulous accuracy” and “devastating affect” comparable to that of the 9/11 attacks.
Choudary is the founder and former chief of two Islamic groups disbanded by the British authorities under anti-terror legislation.”
Read More Here: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=294153#ixzz1LK74FiLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsTLgkUfYY0&feature=player_embedded
Starla | May 3, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
General Petraeus was the General George C. Marshall Award winner as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983.
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Starla – Your take on General Petreus was interesting. While he was a student at the U.S.M.A. he met and fell in love and married the Superintendent of the Academy’s daughter, Holly Knowlton. General Knowlton’s forebears fought with General Washington at Valley Forge. How did I know all of this?My father-in-law was his political adviser at Patch Barracks in Stuttgart, Germany in the 70’s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._Knowlton
It seems impossible to me that Pakistan’s military and secret service did not know who was hiding in that safehouse. Given how large the house was, and how weird it was for the rest of the neighborhood, with the tall fences and shaded windows, if Pakistan’s army had no idea who was there, the normal army officer would go and find out.
Anyone know why Free Republic is pulling all links to Ulsterman’s website? Here is last attempt to get Ulsterman’s story out at FR. It will probably be pulled too. Comment #87 at 4:14:44………….
To: shield
Nope. It got pulled.
I’ve been a member here since 1998 and I have never seen such active pulling of threads on a subject. Hopefully I can at least link to this one:
Can we at least include a link to the Post Email?
This is weird.
87 posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:14:44 PM by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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bo’s fake osama “killing” turning the already dead osama into everlasting supernatural hero. There is no way bo will ever convince the musbros that he is dead now.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/national/050311-doubters-say-bin-laden-lives-ncx
NewsCore) – Across the Muslim world, the killing of Usama bin Laden has unleashed a swirl of conspiracy theories, with many Pakistanis, Afghans and Arabs refusing to believe US assurances that al Qaeda’s founder is actually dead, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.
I thought the Ninth Circuit hearing taped feed was suppose to air at 5pm ET
on C-span?
The tape feed was supposed to air at 5pm ET. I am on the C span site that has the description.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/video-ninth-circuit-court-of-appeals.html
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/299280-1
ATTN EVERYONE:
oreillyfactor is having a poll, cast your vote for TRUMP at http://bit.ly/cxWgkp Lets Clean up the WH. Vote TRUMP!!
From: “ISSA V. HOLDER”
By Katie Pavlich
Excerpt:
“Attorney General Eric Holder just said in a hearing on Capitol Hill he has only known about Project Gunrunner and Operation Fast and Furious for a couple of weeks. Holder claimed that he does not know who authorized the operation and claimed the Justice Department has been cooperating in with the Oversight Committee in their investigation of the DOJ, and that he was very offended by Rep. Darrell Issa’s suggestion that the Justice Department is responsible for the deaths of Border Patrol Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jamie Zapata. Guns used to killed the agents by cartel members have been tracked back to Project Gunrunner, meaning, those guns were sold to the cartels under order of the Justice Department and ATF.
The Justice Department has refused to comply with a subpoena issued by the House Oversight Committee and Chairman Issa has threatened to hold ATF and the DOJ in contempt if officials continue their refusal to comply with the investigation.
Although the following exchange is lengthy to read, it will be worth your time. The ATF Project Gunrunner may end up being the largest scandal to plague ATF and the DOJ in U.S. history.”
Read More Here: http://townhall.com/columnists/katiepavlich/2011/05/03/issa_v_holder
Re: Mr. Bill(ms.helga) | May 3, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
“Starla – Your take on General Petreus was interesting. While he was a student at the U.S.M.A. he met and fell in love and married the Superintendent of the Academy’s daughter, Holly Knowlton.”
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It was not my take or my opinion. I linked to an article that I was printing excerpts from. If you go to the excerpts I quoted, you will see a link that you can click on to get more information.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42882664/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/
The BBC reported that the Pakistani intelligence agency, ISI, released raid details that differed from White House version.
Among them:
•There were 17-18 people in the compound at the time of the attack.
•Americans took away one person still alive, possibly a Bin Laden son.
•Those who survived the attack included a wife, a daughter and eight to nine other children, not apparently Bin Laden’s; all had their hands tied by the Americans.
•A surviving Yemeni wife said they had moved to the compound a few months ago.
•Bin Laden’s daughter, aged 12 or 13, saw her father shot.
U.S. officials deny taking a prisoner, stating “the only person who left the compound besides the U.S. forces was Osama Bin Laden’s body.”
The Pakistani agency also told the BBC, “U.S. helicopters entered Pakistani airspace making use of blind spots in the radar coverage due to hilly terrain.”
An ISI official told the BBC the bin Laden compound in Abbottabad was raided several years ago but “was not on our radar” since then.
This is from Fernley Girl, on another blog, and a very interesting read:
White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
(this is a follow-up report)
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
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Comment – The above ties in with the 16 hour delay that Obama took to “think about it”, and was playing golf on Sunday just before the final raid went down. He even showed up still wearing his golf shoes in the situation room.
Was anyone going to watch the taped feed from yesterday’s Ninth Circuit on C-Span. The time was for 5pm ET. Something seems to be going on..anybody know? I am on the C-span sight and it is listed as not aired yet..I could not have been the only one who was prepared to watch this…Did they change the time?
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/video-ninth-circuit-court-of-appeals.html
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/299280-1
“Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals; Keyes-Barnett-Drake et. al., v. Obama”
Listen:
http://tinyurl.com/3osh4b3
Download:
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/media/2011/05/02/09-56827.wma
Not surprising to me that barry is out playing golf while the nation is in crisis. In fact, he does his best work when he is out playing golf.
IN FACT, I propose we all pitch in our money and send barry and co on a PERMANENT golf vacation to some warm place in the Carribean. Somewhere FAR from our White House!
Cabby – AZ | May 3, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
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Oh my God! This is the man who is the leader of the Free World!
It is so frustrating that the incompetent media people (IMPs) will not report this. I’d like to see this Ulsterman Washington Insider report produced as a video and played on every TV network and cable channel throughout the country so that everyone can see what a spineless wimp we elected as president. And he has the gall to take credit for “getting” Osama Bin Laden! Grrrrrrr!
Who is the Washington Insider? Hmmmmmmm.
http://www.infowars.com/forget-pakistan-us-knew-bin-ladens-location-all-along/
Bin Laden’s shocked neighbors have told the media of their disbelief that Bin Laden or his aides could have lived in the town without being noticed. Indeed, one man who lived next door to the compound raided by US Navy SEALS told Al Jazeera that residents in the area carry documents because they are constantly asked to identify themselves by military forces.
“DID SENIOR MILITARY/INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS OVERRULE PRESIDENT OBAMA REGARDING MISSION TO KILL OSAMA BIN LADEN?”
Published by Ulsterman on May 2, 2011 in US Politics
“A reluctant American president who was ultimately overridden by senior military and intelligence officials to finally take out terrorist Osama Bin Laden…
Note: This communication came from our long time D.C. Insider and details previous and ongoing conflicts surrounding the decision to assassinate terrorist Osama Bin Laden. This has been reproduced here as originally communicated to us.”
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“Please get this out ASAP. Want specific people to know we know.
RE Osama Bin Laden. Significant push to take him out months ago. Senior WH staff resisted. This was cause of much strain between HC and Obama/Jarrett. HC and LP were in constant communication over matter – both attempted to convince administration to act. Administration feared failure and resulting negative impact on president. Intel disgusted over politics over national security. Staff resigned/left. Check timeline to corroborate.
Now Intel already leaking to media facts surrounding how info obtained. Namely from enhanced interrogation efforts via GITMO prisoners. Obama administration placed in corner on this. Some media aware of danger to president RE this and attempting protection. Others looking for further investigation. We are pushing for them to follow through and already meeting with some access.
Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama. Will clarify as details become more clear. Very clear divide between Military and WH. Jarrett marginalized 100% on decision to take out OBL. She played no part. BD worked with LP and HC to form coalition to force CoC to engage.
IMPORTANT SPECIFIC: When 48 hour go order issued, CoC was told, not requested. Administration scrambled to abort. That order was overruled. This order did not originate from CoC. Repeat – this order did not originate from CoC. He complied, but did not originate.
Independent military contacts have confirmed. Stories corroborate one another. This is legit.
The killing of Osama Bin Laden was in fact a Coup within Obama WH.
Speaking with additional contacts RE info.
Stay safe.”
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HC = Hillary Clinton
BD = Bill Daley
LP = Leon Panetta
CoC = Chain of Command/Commander in Chief
UPDATE: JUST RELEASED PHOTO OF THE WHITE HOUSE “WAR ROOM” DURING THE OSAMA BIN LADEN ASSASSINATION OPERATION SHOWING A SEEMINGLY ANGRY BARACK OBAMA STILL WEARING HIS GOLF ATTIRE AND BILL DALEY, HILLARY CLINTON, AND ROBERT GATES ON OPPOSITE SIDE OF ROOM. THIS PHOTO APPEARS TO FURTHER SUPPORT THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT DAY’S EVENTS BY INSIDER…
Read More Here: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
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A FEW MUST READ EXCELLENT ARTICLES!!
“A MAN OF PERDITION”
By Jim Schwiesow
April 27, 2011
“Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” — 2 Thess. 2:3
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/595/851/A_Man_Of_Perdition.html
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“DID THE U.S. MILITARY ACT ON ITS OWN AUTHORITY TO KILL BIN LADEN – MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND “INSIDER” REPORT DIFFER”
By Sharon Rondeau
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/03/did-the-u-s-military-act-on-its-own-authority-to-kill-bin-laden/
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“FORGERY, FRAUD AND INELIGIBILITY – OBAMA HAS SHOWN THE
WORLD THAT HE WAS NOT BORN TO A U.S. CITIZEN FATHER, SO WHY IS HE IN THE WHITE HOUSE?”
By Neil Turner
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/30/forgery-fraud-and-ineligibility/
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We owe more than we can ever repay to families like this.
Cemetery Watchman ..
My friend Kevin and I are volunteers at a National cemetery in Oklahoma and put in a few days a month in a ‘slightly larger’ uniform.
Today had been a long, long day and I just wanted to get the day over with and go down to Smokey’s and have a cold one.. Sneaking a look at my watch, I saw the time, 16:55. Five minutes to go before the cemetery gates are closed for the day. Full dress was hot in the August sun Oklahomasummertime was as bad as ever–the heat and humidity at the same level–both too high.
I saw the car pull into the drive, ’69 or ’70 model Cadillac Deville, looked factory-new. It pulled into the parking lot at a snail’s pace.. An old woman got out so slow I thought she was paralyzed; she had a cane and a sheaf of flowers–about four or five bunches as best I could tell.
I couldn’t help myself. The thought came unwanted, and left a slightly bitter taste: ‘She’s going to spend an hour, and for this old soldier, my hip hurts like hell and I’m ready to get out of here right now!’ But for this day, my duty was to assist anyone coming in.
Kevin would lock the ‘In’ gate and if I could hurry the old biddy along, we might make it to Smokey’s in time..
I broke post attention. My hip made gritty noises when I took the first step and the pain went up a notch. I must have made a real military sight: middle-aged man with a small pot gut and half a limp, in marine full-dress uniform, which had lost its razor crease about thirty minutes after I began the watch at the cemetery.
I stopped in front of her, halfway up the walk. She looked up at me with an old woman’s squint.
‘Ma’am, may I assist you in any way?’
She took long enough to answer.
‘Yes, son. Can you carry these flowers? I seem to be moving a tad slow these days.’
‘My pleasure, ma’am.’ (Well, it wasn’t too much of a lie.)
She looked again. ‘Marine, where were you stationed?’
‘ Vietnam, ma’am. Ground-pounder. ’69 to ’71.’
She looked at me closer.. ‘Wounded in action, I see. Well done, Marine. I’ll be as quick as I can.’
I lied a little bigger: ‘No hurry, ma’am.’
She smiled and winked at me. ‘Son, I’m 85-years-old and I can tell a lie from a long way off.. Let’s get this done. Might be the last time I can do this. My name’s Joanne Wieserman, and I’ve a few Marines I’d like to see one more time.’
‘Yes, ma ‘am. At your service.’
She headed for the World War I section, stopping at a stone. She picked one of the flower bunches out of my arm and laid it on top of the stone. She murmured something I couldn’t quite make out.. The name on the marble was Donald S. Davidson, USMC:France 1918.
She turned away and made a straight line for the World War II section, stopping at one stone. I saw a tear slowly tracking its way down her cheek. She put a bunch on a stone; the name was Stephen X.Davidson, USMC, 1943.
She went up the row a ways and laid another bunch on a stone, Stanley J. Wieserman, USMC, 1944..
She paused for a second and more tears flowed. ‘Two more, son, and we’ll be done’
I almost didn’t say anything, but, ‘Yes, ma’am. Take your time.’
She looked confused.. ‘Where’s the Vietnamsection, son? I seem to have lost my way.’
I pointed with my chin. ‘That way, ma’am.’
‘Oh!’ she chuckled quietly. ‘Son, me and old age ain’t too friendly.’
She headed down the walk I’d pointed at. She stopped at a couple of stones before she found the ones she wanted. She placed a bunch on Larry Wieserman, USMC, 1968, and the last on Darrel Wieserman, USMC, 1970. She stood there and murmured a few words I still couldn’t make out and more tears flowed.
‘OK, son, I’m finished. Get me back to my car and you can go home.’
Yes, ma’am. If I may ask, were those your kinfolk?’
She paused. ‘Yes, Donald Davidson was my father, Stephen was my uncle, Stanley was my husband, Larry and Darrel were our sons. All killed in action, all Marines.’
She stopped! Whether she had finished, or couldn’t finish, I don’t know. She made her way to her car, slowly and painfully.
I waited for a polite distance to come between us and then double-timed it over to Kevin, waiting by the car.
‘Get to the ‘Out’ gate quick.. I have something I’ve got to do.’
Kevin started to say something, but saw the look I gave him. He broke the rules to get us there down the service road fast. We beat her. She hadn’t made it around the rotunda yet.
‘Kevin, stand at attention next to the gatepost. Follow my lead.’ I humped it across the drive to the other post
When the Cadillac came puttering around from the hedges and began the short straight traverse to the gate, I called in my best gunny’s voice: ‘TehenHut! Present Haaaarms!’
I have to hand it to Kevin; he never blinked an eye–full dress attention and a salute that would make his DI proud.
She drove through that gate with two old worn-out soldiers giving her a send-off she deserved, for service rendered to her country, and for knowing duty, honor and sacrifice far beyond the realm of most.
I am not sure, but I think I saw a salute returned from that Cadillac.
Instead of ‘The End,’ just think of ‘Taps.’
As a final thought on my part, let me share a favorite prayer: ‘Lord, keep our servicemen and women safe, whether they serve at home or overseas. Hold them in your loving hands and protect them as they protect us.’
Let’s all keep those currently serving and those who have gone before in our thoughts. They are the reason for the many freedoms we enjoy.
‘In God We Trust.’
Sorry about your monitor; it made mine blurry too!
If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under!
Jonah | May 3, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Yes, Jonah, considering all of the bits and pieces of information we have been gathering from many different sources, this scenario as described by the Insider, I believe, makes sense. That is why O looked so mean and ugly Sunday night when he spoke to the nation. There was no real joy or gratitude there at all – whatever there might be was fake. To think that this man child sits in the People’s House is beyond comprehension.
Have you read the article over at Post & Email (interview with LCDR Fitzpatrick by Sharon Rondeau)?
This story is growing fast, that Obama lied again this time about Orders were ‘to kill him’…
UBL had no gun in his hand. Did Obama commit murder ?
GBAmerica | May 3, 2011 at 6:36 pm |
We owe more than we can ever repay to families like this.
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Thanks for sharing that touching story! (my monitor got blurry)
Mr Clean | May 3, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
This story is growing fast, that Obama lied again this time about Orders were ‘to kill him’…
UBL had no gun in his hand. Did Obama commit murder ?
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It is hard to come by the true facts, but this thought has occurred to me: With Obama being a fraudulent occupant of the White House, what would be the consequences for our country’s military if our leaders were charged with war crimes by some other nations? For example, Pakistan? They could charge our brave military with illegal acts being ordered by an illegal POTUS.
Cabby, I think your last comment is the very reason so many are trying to cover up. In my opinion, they aren’t ALL in the Usurper’s hip pocket. There are probably many who love our men and women in uniform who put their lives in danger every single day for the rest of us. What a horrible ending if they should be accused of war crimes, something they had no control over. Just my humble opinion.
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110502/capt.582f72648d1448b18dd6e1e35cddb842-582f72648d1448b18dd6e1e35cddb842-0.jpg?x=400&y=266&q=85&sig=o1wh891244UV5WGNMUA0Gg–
This AP photo of the WH Situation room during the raid reveals quite a bit. Note Jarrett is not in field of vision and may have not have been present. Zero looks like a spectator rather than a leader. The body language of each one in the view does not reflect any deference to POTUS.
They’re all concentrating on looking concerned about the fake OBL death.
On NOW
THE ANDREA SHEA KING SHOW – Birther night
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2011/05/04/the-andrea-shea-king-show
Cabby,
God Bless !
More details emerge:
White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
Read more: http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LLDXmker
http://www.infowars.com/cia-employs-theatrics-to-heighten-drama-in-osama-murder-photo-release/
In a gruesome game of wait and see, the CIA is drawing out the release of photos its claims show a double-tapped Osama bin Laden.
Leon Panetta, Obama’s director at the CIA, told Brian Williams of “NBC Nightly News” today the agency would eventually present a photograph and pawn it off as evidence. In the meantime, we will be obliged to wait on pins and needles.
CA Patriot | May 3, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
Not surprising to me that barry is out playing golf while the nation is in crisis. In fact, he does his best work when he is out playing golf.
IN FACT, I propose we all pitch in our money and send barry and co on a PERMANENT golf vacation to some warm place in the Carribean. Somewhere FAR from our White House!
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How about Guantanamo? We can set him up with a putt putt course.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4064183,00.html
The imam then verbally attacked US President Barack Obama saying: “You personally instructed to kill Muslims. You should know that soon you’ll hang…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrp9007dcf8&feature=player_embedded
Go to brasscheck tv. 9lives of osama great video
Jonah
Who is the Washington Insider? Hmmmmmmm.
I bet he is Bill Clinton. 🙂
Ginger,
Hmmmm? I never thought about Bill Clinton. Very possible. He would have a lot to gain by bringing down Obama.
I wonder how Hillary feels walking through the halls of the White House thinking that used to be her house and now MO is sleeping in her bed. Maybe Hill and Bill would like to move back in but first they have to take care of a minor detail like discrediting BO and then getting the Dem nomination. Oh yeah, she’d have to win the 2012 election. 🙂
GBAmerica | May 3, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
Cabby,
God Bless !
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God Bless you, too. I have sent that story to a couple of my email friends.
OsamaObama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbfyMU21tOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siT44aPRKhA&NR=1
Cabby,
Great read over at P&E. The military is pizzed at BO!
Thanks
I
The Real Birth Certificate
I FOUND OBAMA’S REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
The Real Birth Certificate
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/real-birth-certificate_558496.html
My whole family is laughing, Jonah. Thank you.
Jonah,
Hahahahaha!!
Is anyone else confused?? The WH keeps changing the story about the UBL kill which gives credibility to stories about UBL being dead for years, but I also believe the Ulster Man stories since they have so much detail….
It would make sense that it wasn’t a UBL kill but a high up Al Queda kill, but why haven’t their been leaks about that???
Julie T | May 3, 2011 at 11:09 pm |
Is anyone else confused?? The WH keeps changing the story about the UBL kill which gives credibility to stories about UBL being dead for years, but I also believe the Ulster Man stories since they have so much detail….
It would make sense that it wasn’t a UBL kill but a high up Al Queda kill, but why haven’t their been leaks about that???
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Good questions?
It would have been too difficult for the regime to justify an assault deep in Pakistan on just another al qaeda communications cell so they thawed out the body of osama.
http://drudgereport.com/
IMAM VOWS REVENGE
In Muslim world, many doubters say bin Laden still lives…
TALIBAN: U.S. ‘has shown no proof’ of bin Laden’s death…
Doubters abound…
‘Explosion of Conspiracy Theories’…
Experts question strength of DNA identification…
SKYNEWS: Can US Offer Final Proof Of Osama’s Death?
Compound Hardly a Secret in Paki Town…
Binny Family Gave Away Bunnies…
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BUSH TURNS DOWN OBAMA INVITE TO GROUND ZERO…
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STORY CHANGES: OSAMA DIDN’T HAVE GUN, DIDN’T USE WIFE AS SHIELD…
WH SPOKESMAN: ‘Resistance does not require a firearm’…
CIA Chief Says Obama Couldn’t See Bin Laden’s Death…
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905 troops killed in Afghanistan since Obama inaugurated…
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Heightened security at Obama granny’s Kenya home…