Meroni V 32 Candidates and the Illinois State Board of Elections, Sharon Meroni appeal, Proof of eligibility for office
“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans
From Chalice of Patriot’s Heart Radio March 20, 2011.
“The brief for Meroni V 32 Candidates and the Illinois State Board of Elections was entered for the appellant on March 8th, 2011. The Attorney General in Illinois has 35 days to respond, and the appellant, Sharon Meroni, represented by attorney, Stephen Boulton from McCarthy Duffy, will have 14 days to respond. Oral arguments will be requested and likely granted.
I ask you to take the time to read this brief. Mr. Boulton and I are discussing secondary legal steps we would like to take to pave the way for successful litigation of the constitutional issues involved in this case. The 4th Appellate Court is tasked to determine if it will address the procedural errors of the previous rulings and/or the constitutional issues involved.
It is our contention that the Illinois State Board of Elections, procedurally, could have addressed our objections through their subpoena power. In addition, our court action contends current Illinois Code violates US and Illinois Constitutional rights. These are separate and interrelated legal issues.
Keep in mind, this appeal does not discuss Natural Born Citizen directly in the argument. The core argument is that no one in Illinois must prove they are legally qualified (constitutionally eligible as US citizens) to run for any office in the state. It is our contention that the nomination papers should provide the proof to substantiate the candidate’s affirmation that they are legally qualified to hold that office. This is true for all offices. Ultimately, definations for legally qualified will be specific to the office sought.”
http://www.scribd.com/full/50860141?access_key=key-5v4g0chwoz7t5auqlt2
Citizen WElls 
Good Morning! Did you see WND eligibility poll results?
Also, there was a breaking news line in Israel:
13:59Libyan rebel spokesman encourages foreign air strikes, says no to ground troops (Reuters)
To me, this reluctance to accept ground troops indicates a more radical makeup for resistance. Al Qaeda?
Sorry, left out link.
http://www.haaretz.com/misc/breaking-news
bo caught LYING AGAIN to support his ILLEGAL WAR
http://rt.com/news/airstrikes-libya-russian-military/
The reports of Libya mobilizing its air force against its own people spread quickly around the world. However, Russia’s military chiefs say they have been monitoring from space – and the pictures tell a different story.
According to Al Jazeera and BBC, on February 22 Libyan government inflicted airstrikes on Benghazi – the country’s largest city – and on the capital Tripoli. However, the Russian military, monitoring the unrest via satellite from the very beginning, says nothing of the sort was going on on the ground.
At this point, the Russian military is saying that, as far as they are concerned, the attacks some media were reporting have never occurred.
The same sources in Russia’s military establishment say they are also monitoring the situation around Libya’s oil pumping facilities.
bo has DESTROYED his coalition. The UN and the Arab League will NOT support bo’s WAR CRIMES.
The Arab League Members who sanctioned bo’s “No-Fly Zone” have no reason to LIE ONLY bo HAS A MOTIVE TO LIE TO ATTEMPT AVOIDING PROSECUTION FOR HIS CRIMES.
IT IS DESPICABLE THAT OBOTS HERE HAVE CONDONED bo’s KILLING OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS!
At NOQuarters:
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/03/21/3-am-goes-to-war-3/
….The tribals all rally to Q at the moment the infidels threaten air strikes. Q is seen as defender of the faith in Libya.
The rebel leaders lose legitimacy for inviting in the Crusaders. The so-called rebel aircraft shot down over Benghazi (reported MiG-23) is a warning to France that this can happen to you. Shot down how? Air to air? Ground to air? MANPADS? Am told that it was likely anti-aircraft fire, as there was no smoke trail associated with MANPAD. Pilot reportedly bailed….
Free Speech | March 20, 2011 at 10:42 pm |
War Crime Charges should be brought against the FRAUD bo for ordering the bombings that KILLED INNOCENT LIBYAN CIVILIANS
http://articles.sfgate.com/1998-08-22/news/17729096_1_arab-league-international-law-sudan
Arab League Denounces U.S. Attack
Air strike on Sudan is called violation of international
The Arab League condemned Thursday’s U.S. air strike against Sudan yesterday, charging that Washington violated international law.
“The Arab League received with disgust the news of the attack which killed several innocent people and destroyed a plant which provides 50 percent of Sudan’s medical needs,” the Cairo-based organization said in a statement.
In one weekend bo has DESTROYED the good relationships with the Arab World that Presidents Bush 41 & 43 built up over 12 years. bo the muslim apostate is now the MOST HATED MAN in the ARAB World.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/putin-likens-u-n-libya-resolution-crusade-calls-20110321-052402-752.html
Putin, in the first major remarks from a Russian leader since a coalition of Western countries began air strikes in Libya, said that Muammar Gaddafi’s government fell short of democracy but added that did not justify military intervention.
“The resolution is defective and flawed,” Putin told workers at a Russian ballistic missile factory. “It allows everything. It resembles medieval calls for crusades.”
Putin said that interference in other countries’ internal affairs has become a trend in U.S. foreign policy and that the events in Libya indicated that Russia should strengthen its own defense capabilities.
Russia, a veto-wielding permanent Security Council member, abstained from the vote Thursday in which the council authorized a no-fly zone over Libya and “all necessary measures” to protect civilians against Gaddafi’s forces.
Here is the biggest joke of the year –
“A hard-core group of liberal House Democrats is questioning the CONSTITUTIONALITY of U.S. missile strikes against Libya, with one lawmaker raising the prospect of impeachment during a Democratic Caucus conference call on Saturday.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51595.html#ixzz1HEwE4rTs
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CIC – SILENCE
P.S. – We may be reaching the “pointing of fingers” time!
da verg | March 20, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
FS nice footage
I see everyone but BO is worried about contaminated food/materials from Japan. And a few non believers on this board.
Isn’t Trump a DEMOCRAT from NY ???
Isn’t Senator Lugar a Democrat also ???
BO is taking a thumping and get this
John Boehner to President Obama: Define the mission
>>>I wish this bonehead RINO would read the Constitution
and say….DEFINE THE MISSION BEFORE HAND, like
Bush did . We now have grounds for IMPEACHMENT.
But based upon the last few months after the winning the 2012
mid terms these RINOs have done nothing but
alienate there own base, step on the CONSTITUTIONALISTS
and TEA PARTY members at every step of the way , and
given BARRY A FREE PASS.
Enough
times up BONER…..time to step up to the plate
and uphold the Constitution
===================
The rinos are as DISGUSTING as the obot demRats. When the obots are sent to prison, I hope they get plenty of Japanese Milk since they allege there is no problem with radiation in Japan.
NOBAMA CAN’T HAVE IT ”BOTH WAYS”.
OBEYING “NATO” OR KEEPING FAVOR WITH HIS “ARAB FRIENDS”.THIS HAS BEEN PREDICATED AND IS NOW “COMING TO LIGHT”. COULD THERE BE SOMETHING MORE TO THIS “DRAMATIC” SHIFT IN HIS OR “GEORGE SOROS” POLICY?? I WOULDN”T PUT ANYTHING PAST ”THAT DEVIL SOROS”.
HE WILL RESIGN BEFORE 2012?? WHO KNOWS WITH THIS “BUNCH”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/21/us-army-kill-team-afghanistan-posed-pictures-murdered-civilians
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/
The US Congress has not declared war against a foreign nation since WWII. But when George W. Bush sent troops into Afghanistan and Iraq following the September 11, 2001 attacks on US soil, he not only consulted congress in advance, he sought and received specific statutory authorization from congress before ordering troops into combat. Bush complied with the constitution and War Powers Act under conditions (2) and (3). He also had a broad coalition of UN partners backed by years of Iraqi broken UN resolutions.
In the case of Obama and Libya, none of these conditions exist.
1) Congress did not declare war.
2) Congress was not consulted and did not give specific statutory authorization.
3) The US was not attacked in any way by Libya which presented no threat to the US or US assets.
As a result, Barack Obama had NO constitutional authority to attack Libya with over $70 million worth of US taxpayer Tomahawks, placing American soldiers in harm’s way in yet another war which cannot even be justified by the pursuit of oil.
Obama touched down in Brazil as American soldiers launched a military assault on Libya at Obama’s command. Obama stands alone in this decision and order, without the support of the American people, without constitutional authority and in direct violation of his Oath of Office and the War Powers Act.
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-indict-bho-for-criminal-cover-up.html
http://connect.freedomworks.org/
©2011 jbjd
Over the past couple of days, dozens of internet sites with a political bent decidedly to the right have erupted with a collective ‘whoa is us (read, U.S.)’ cry that the interplay between the courts, and Alternative Dispute Resolution (“ADR”) practice carried out according to principles enshrined in religion; signals we are allowing religious fanatics to take over our Republic. And they are up in arms at that American prospect.
The focus of their ire is a case in FL involving a business deal (contract) gone bad. Evidently, the parties had agreed in advance to resolve any disputes that might arise under their contract, in some type of ADR which would be conducted according to Sharia law. Seems one of the parties now refused to live by the terms of that agreement, denying the other the benefit of their bargain. The aggrieved party asked the court to memorialize the terms of the contractual agreement to arbitrate in an Order to Enforce the Arbitrator’s Award. (I have been unable to find the original contract between the parties, or any documents other than the court order compelling the parties to abide by the terms of that contract.) A picture of the court order can be found on AtlasShrugs. Sharia Becomes Law in Florida
read more
http://jbjd.org/
Activist Wisconsin Judge’s Son is SEIU & AFL-CIO Activist
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/03/figures-son-of-wisconsin-activist-judge-is-seiu-afl-cio-activist/
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/262547/unwise-and-illegitimate-andrew-c-mccarthy?page=1
There is a catch: The Security Council is powerless to “authorize” the U.S. military to do a damned thing. The validity of American combat operations is a matter of American law, and that means Congress must authorize them.
Our Constitution vests Congress with the power to declare war. That authority cannot be delegated to an international tribunal that lacks political accountability to the American people. The decision to go to war is the most significant one a body politic can make. Thus the Framers designed our system to make certain that the responsible officials are answerable to the people whose lives are at stake and who are expected to foot the bills.
But this is not a blank check for the president. At a certain point in time — which may vary with the peculiar circumstances of different armed conflicts — Congress must weigh in and either endorse or put a stop to presidential war-making. It may do the latter by refusing to support the president’s actions and calling for military operations to cease. If the president refuses to honor this expression of disfavor by the people’s representatives, Congress may use its power of the purse to defund military operations. If the president tries to persist, Congress may even impeach him. The central point is that the commander-in-chief’s brute power is not a limitless authority. To be valid, combat operations must at some early, practical point be blessed by Congress, even if the president has righteously ordered them in response to an attack on our country.
Wisconsin Judge Maryann Sumi & Her (SEIU, AFL-CIO) Political Operative Son
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/03/21/wisconsin-judge-maryann-sumi-her-seiu-afl-cio-political-operative-son/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/21/doubts-mount-libya-war/
Fractures Emerge in Anti-Qaddafi Coalition
A second day of U.S. air strikes on Libyan positions came amid deepening anxieties among coalition partners about the means and objectives of the effort there.
But the coalition is currently suffering from a lack of direction and waning support.
Turkey blocked a bid to have NATO take over command of the operation, called Odyssey Dawn. The Arab League, which helped spur a sudden shift in the Obama administration late last week by calling for a no-fly zone, is now expressing misgivings about the size and ferocity of the effort.
The Russians and Chinese, who withheld a Security Council veto of a French-British-U.S. resolution allowing any military steps short of ground forces, are already tut-tutting the shock-and-aweish nature of the effort so far.
But the coalition is currently suffering from a lack of direction and waning support.
Turkey blocked a bid to have NATO take over command of the operation, called Odyssey Dawn. The Arab League, which helped spur a sudden shift in the Obama administration late last week by calling for a no-fly zone, is now expressing misgivings about the size and ferocity of the effort.
The Russians and Chinese, who withheld a Security Council veto of a French-British-U.S. resolution allowing any military steps short of ground forces, are already tut-tutting the shock-and-aweish nature of the effort so far.
There is bipartisan grumbling on Capitol Hill that President Obama, despite his denunciations of his predecessor for failing to further consult with Congress over invading Iraq, told lawmakers about his Libya attack plans rather than seeking approval or advice in advance.
While most Republicans say they would have given authority for the air strikes undertaken so far, there is growing concern on the right that the military, already obligated to fighting two wars, will be further stretched if the situation in Libya devolves. House Speaker John Boehner says he wants to know exactly what the mission is before the mission changes again.
There is deepening anxiety among Democrats though. While liberals generally appreciate the efforts to obtain U.N. blessing for the operation, there is unhappiness that Obama did less to consult with Congress about his Libyan attack than President George W. Bush did in advance of his invasion of Iraq.
Bush obtained authorization for the use of force from Congress long before the war and even before he went in search of international approval. The complaint in Congress was actually that Bush had sought approval too far in advance and that the situation had changed before the invasion (today marks the eight-year anniversary of the first major land battle of the invasion, the Battle of Nasiriyah). Later they would claim that they had been misled into supporting the war (Sen. John Kerry) or that they had assumed that Bush would not make use of the authority they had granted (then-Sen. Hillary Clinton).
Obama, meanwhile, offered only a perfunctory conference call for Congressional leaders after committing U.S. forces to a coalition strike.
And in weekend remarks during his family’s five-day tour of Latin America, Obama did little to clarify what the goals were in Libya.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/president_obama_goes_to_war_wi.html
Regardless of one’s inclination toward the “freedom fighters” and the “monster” in Libya, or the wisdom of United States military intervention, there are certain formalities that are required, and that President Obama and his administration, including Secretary of State Clinton, appear determined to ignore, in violation of both the Constitution and United States Law.
Even the former obots at huffpo are questioning bo’s ILLEGAL WAR on INNOCENT LIBYAN CIVILIANS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/20/obama-libya_n_838219.html?amp&&
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/20/obama-libya_n_838219.html?amp&&
“I think [the president] has a duty and an obligation to come to Congress,” Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah.) told The Huffington Post. “I see no clear and present danger to the United States of America. I just don’t. We’re in a bit of the fog at the moment as to what the president is trying to ultimately do.”
“In the absence of a credible, direct threat to the United States and its allies or to our valuable national interests, what excuse is there for not seeking congressional approval of military action?” asked Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) in a separate interview. “I think it is wrong and a usurpation of power and the fact that prior presidents have done it is not an excuse.”
Nadler and Chaffetz aren’t alone among those classes of lawmakers (old and young) whose politics have been shaped by skepticism with this trend. Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), put up a Facebook post on Sunday arguing that the president could not “launch strikes without authorization from the American people” and complaining Congress was being treated like “serfs.”
On Saturday, Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.), chairman of the Democratic Caucus, organized a conference call with a dozen-or-so liberal Democrats to discuss the constitutionality of the president’s actions and chart out possible political responses. At least two members — Nadler and Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) — have called for an emergency congressional session to address and, potentially, authorize the use of military force.
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) had been circulating a resolution “[e]xpressing the sense of Congress that the President is required to obtain in advance specific statutory authorization for the use of United States Armed Forces in response to civil unrest in Libya.” The measure was supported by Reps. Michael Honda (D-Calif.) and John Conyers (D-Mich.), among others.
http://www.insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2011/march/21/latinamerica110302103.htm
Chileans March against War, Obama’s Visit
Since very early today, Chileans joined a demonstration that marched from Italia Square to Armas de Santiago Square, where a cultural-political rally will take place with the motto For Peace and Against War.
Obama is very far from honoring the Nobel Peace Prize he was given in 2009, said the president of the Federation of Chilean Students, Camila Vallejos.
bo is the WORST pRESIDENT IN HISTORY. Worse Warmonger than lbj, More INCOMPETENT than carter and less regard for the Constitution than President Nixon.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/18/obamas-illegal-war/
Obama’s illegal war
Rhetorical question ?
How come BS/FS/Leo is on Gadaffi’s side?
http://wallstreetpit.com/67672-obama-leads-us-into-another-illegal-quagmire-in-libya
How come obot FOS is on bo’s side?
IMO, both bo and gaddafi are musBro SCUM!
gaddafi praise his fellow musBro bo
farrakhan praises his fellow musBro bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-pwMXIuzk
Prime Minister Putin condemns bo’s ILLEGAL WAR
http://www.emirates247.com/news/world/putin-condemns-trend-of-us-military-intervention-2011-03-21-1.371090
Putin condemns ‘trend’ of US military intervention
Slams UN resolution allowing military action on Libya as a “medieval call to crusade”
Obama’s KGB TIES ARTICLE http://WWW.COMMIEBLASTER.COM
ALL CONNECTED
http://WWW.ORLYTAITZESQ.COM
50 Impeachable Crimes and counting http://www.canadafreepress.com \
26650 article
http://www.thenation.com/blog/159336/kucinich-warns-obama-libya-war
“While the action is billed as protecting the civilians of Libya, a no-fly-zone begins with an attack on the air defenses of Libya and Qaddafi forces. It is an act of war. The president made statements which attempt to minimize U.S. action, but U.S. planes may drop U.S. bombs and U.S. missiles may be involved in striking another sovereign nation. War from the air is still war.
“It is also worth noting that the President did not comment upon nor recognize that the Libyan government had declared a ceasefire in response to UNSC Resolution 1973. It was appropriate for the UN to speak about the situation. It was appropriate to establish an arms embargo and freeze Qaddafi’s considerable financial assets. But whether the U.S. takes military action is not for the UN alone to decide. There is a constitutional imperative in the United States with respect to deciding to commit our U.S. armed forces to war.
“Congress should be called back into session immediately to decide whether or not to authorize the United States’ participation in a military strike. If it does not, the action of the President is contrary to U.S. Constitution. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution clearly states that the United States Congress has the power to declare war. The President does not. That was the Founders’ intent.
Most dangerous Islamitist on planet Earth lives in Pennsylvania
http://www.canadafreepress.com
bo’s Afghan Army
March 21, 2011
Obama in Exile
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Obama is being chased by his own incompetence, forced to face it, unable to stare it down. Privately he must admit he is over his head and no one — not in the legislature, in the labor unions, in the deep pockets of George Soros nor the salons of liberal media apologists and sympathetic academics — can save his doomed presidency.
Obama is in full retreat. Disengaged and decoupled. A pathetic creature, soon to be deserving of mercy rather than scorn, if only his hubris were in lockstep full retreat. Is he guilty of desertion or mere dereliction? Desertion would be a harsh claim, but dereliction not so far fetched.
A president who voluntary withdraws — or at least sidesteps — from the duties of the office, is derelict, period. Even his own party faithful anxiously look for any sign of leadership coming from Obama, only to be turned away empty handed, yet again. Bereft of personal responsibility towards his fellow Americans, Obama has neither resigned nor renounced his citizenship. Yet through his apology tours has made us wonder whether renouncing his affinity for America and the leadership imperatives due the office would only be a public formality.
more … http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/obama_in_exile.html
Obama and Hillary are so over their heads. He takes off when the going gets tough and she wants to demonstrate that she can play with the big boys … only after waiting for permission from the other “new” women war mongers that play around the UN … before committing the U.S. in its superpower status and reputation to an undefined and seemingly weak-ended goal with the U.S. and its military being seen as some kind of one foot in and one foot out humiliating position. She might as well follow O on his world tours of bowing and kissing the enemies. When it comes to freely choosing her positioning with male “mentors” and controllers she sure can pick em! Maybe one day she can stand on her own but at this age she hasn’t demonstrated any such ability … perhaps as a grandmother role … If that should ever happen.
bo’s Doped Aghan Soldiers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8w0IX4UQc&feature=player_embedded
Putin, Gaddafi, Farrakhan, the Arab League, anti war liberal Democrats. ….what do all of these groups Have in common. …they are now to be called “FOFS” better known in our world as “Friends Of FS”……. LOL….And we are the obots?
Back to my self imposed exile. ..I could pass up pointing out all of the FOFS opinions being endorsed on Citizen Wells Blog….he disinfo guys in the White House have got to be chuckling. .
March 20, 2011
Mr. Donald Trump, Personal
Trump Organization
725 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Dear Mr. Trump,
It never occurred to me in my life I would be sending you a letter. Until recently, there was nothing in each of our lives to have anything to say to each other.
As a matter of fact there is no reason that you would ever have to communicate with me. You see, Mr. Trump I am not fabulously rich, super successful at anything, very famous, vitally important, own any thing of interest to you and I AM NO LONGER YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL. In fact, the best I can say is I am an invisible American citizen who has achieved nothing more than raising her family, earning her own living, purchasing my home, and living responsibly and honorably.
Why would you be receiving a letter from some one like me?
Though you do not plan to announce your presidential candidacy until June, I believe you will choose to run. Chances are very good you will get the Republican nomination and you will be running against Obama in 2012. Honestly, in my humble opinion, I believe your chances of winning are very good. When you run, you will be asking for something from me. My vote! This is why I am writing to you now.
Among your considerations for deciding to run for president must be your platform. What will be the CENTER PIECE OF YOUR PLATFORM? What will you tell America is the highest and best reason to vote for you and no one else?
In order to defeat Obama, you must look better, be brighter, and be more pro-America, constitution, free enterprise and capitalism than Obama. You must also look better than all the sniffing and wagging presidential hopefuls planning to step into the presidential arena. If your platform is basically the same as all the other sniveling cowards—then you have said or done nothing new or different. You won’t pass my acid test. YOU WILL NOT GET MY VOTE!
You are astutely aware how dangerously close “we the people” are about to lose the United States Republic of America under God (not Allah) protected by the greatest contract ever written—The US Constitution. As I write the Constitution is being violated and ripped to shreds every day by this “regime”.
You have made it abundantly clear you don’t like the direction this current regime is taking America. I and millions of voting Americans agree with you. This is why if you or who ever runs against Obama in 2012 must be certain to win. Who ever wins must be exceptionally wise, extremely honorable, forged in the hottest fires to be strong, fearlessly single minded, so patriotic and loving of America that nothing can separate him from placing country, duty and obedience to the oath . . .to protect and honor the Constitution from enemies within and with out above his career and all else.
We already know the basic issues your competitors will be touting. America’s housing needs a boost; our energy resources must become less dependent upon foreign lands. Americans needs jobs. Travelers need to be protected from having their genitals groped at air ports in the false name of “for your protection.” America knows its borders need to be secured. The UN is a disaster. NAFTA has hurt America. The Federal Reserve sucks. America must get out of foreign wars and create better more workable foreign policies. Government needs to get out of the education business. Obama is trying to convert America from a Christian/Judeo country to a Socialist/Fascist/Muslim-under-Sharia-law land. The stimulus is a failure. The banks are making very few loans. These and more will be what the snake oil candidates will be saying while imagining themselves so clever and we the people so dumb. The yadda, yadda goes on. That’s what so. So what? You, Mr. Trump must do what your competition is too frightened to do.
There is only one issue and only one issue for any presidential hopeful to put forward. OBAMA IS NOT OUR LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT UNDER THE NBC CLAUSE OF THE CONTSTITUTION. REMOVE HIM ON THAT BASIS AND ALL HIS POISON POLICIES WILL BECOME NULL AND VOID. ONCE THAT IS RESOLVED, AMERICA WILL IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO HEAL AND RESTORE IT SELF UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF AN ASTUTE BUSINESS MAN SUCH AS YOUR SELF. A GREAT MANY EXISTING PROBLEMS WILL DIMINISH. THERE IS NO BETTER OR OTHER STRATEGY THAN THAT.
Forgive me while I put forward my argument:
A is A or Don’t Put the Cart before the Horse!
IF THE TREE IS POISON, SO IS THE FRUIT. So why destroy the fruit and not the tree?
If the foundation is cracked or askew, so will be the structure. So why would the structure continue to be built without first correcting the foundation?
If the POTUS is not legal, so follows all his policies and every action he makes. So why would any one would ignore the POTUS legality and simply focus on his illegal policies. Isn’t that putting the cart before the horse? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CONGRESS, SENATE, THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, MAIN STREAM MEDIA, AND THE REST OF THE POLITICAL WHORES ARE DOING.
If a presidential candidate avoids confronting the NBC issue of Obama for fear of ridicule and not being elected—THEN HOW IS HE GOING TO STAND UP TO CHINA, RUSSIA, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, THE UNIONS, OR ANY OTHER DECISION THAT DEMANDS COURAGE AND FEARLESSNESS? HE ISN’T WORTHY OF THE JOB. He/she will not get my vote. HE’S FIRED!
If any candidate hopeful ignores this primary issue—with the false logic:
“Obama’s eligibility is not a very important issue. Therefore it is far better to focus upon his policies”
—then that hopeful is clearly in the process of FLIM FLAMMING, SHUCKIN & JIVEN, AND ATTEMPTING TO CON THE PUBLIC. HE IS ALSO COMPLICIT IN OBAMA’S GREAT COVER UP SCANDAL. It is one more example of the Emperor and His new suit of clothes—and not one political leader with the stones to call the emperor NAKED.
IT IS DISRESPECTUL AND DEMEANINNG TO BE ASKED FOR OUR VOTE BY THESE COWARDS WHILE WE WITNESS THEIR DENIAL, AVOIDANCE, OBFUSCATION AND DENIGRATION OF PATIROTS BEGGING THOSE IN POWER TO CONFRONT OBAMA REGARDING HIS CONCEALED DOCUMENTS. If they lie and avoid this issue, what other areas are they willing to deceive us?
The great November 2010 “shellacking” Obama claimed he got has turned into another useless Congress of elected officials working hard protecting their careers instead of their country. Look at Scott Brown, the Rino. What has the forked tongue Daryl Issa accomplished? Rugged John Boehner claims Barry was born in Hawaii, is a Christian and there are more important issues than Bo’s eligibility. Huckabee wants to praise Michelle Obama for telling people what to eat. Sarah Palin sold out to Fox news partly owned by Prince Al Aweed. She simply avoids the issue. Mitt Romney ignores the issue. New Gingrich validates Obama as president. Ron and Rand Paul are afraid to confront Obama’s legitimacy for fear of being ridiculed out of their careers. Judge Napolitano who presents a program based upon the constitution HAS NEVER CONFRONTED THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT TO BE PRESIDENT IN THE CONSTITUTION. Allen—talk tough—West advises people there are more important issues than Obama’s birth certificate! The cover up continues.
What do you think these alleged leaders look like in the eyes of millions of citizens who sincerely and rightfully want to know who this cheap shot punk really is?
Efforts to bring this controversy to court have met with dismissal after dismissal based upon “lack of standing” and not the merits of the facts. It appears judges were either bribed, intimidated or both. Main stream media has consistently refrained from all important discussion of the subject and simply suppressed most information about it. The White House approach in dealing with the issue is to use Saul Alinsky tactics of ridicule and denigration of any one or group who seriously is concerned with Obama’s legality under our Constitution. The demeaning word is “birther”. The United States Supreme court has simply refused to hear cases that have been brought to them regarding Hussein’s eligibility.
Millions of Americans and people all over the world know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama is a usurper and is bribing, intimidating, judges, Governors, Congress, Senate and the press to suppress the evidence, look the other way, or simply insult legitimate investigation regarding Barry’s citizenship. He has suppressed all his records from school, to law practice to birth certificate (the COLB is a proven forgery). He has spent millions keeping this out of court. Now he has grown so cocky, he’s making jokes about it.
Soon, you will be presenting your self as a candidate. You stated you would be willing to spend six hundred million of your own money to purchase the position of US President. Obama’s thugs raised and spent over ONE BILLION DOLLARS TO BUY THE EMPTY SUIT THE PRESIDENCY in 2007. They are already talking about raising another Billion dollars and probably more for a second term. Therefore, Mr. Trump, you will have to raise an additional ONE BILLION DOLLARS TO MAKE YOURSELF STAND OUT AS THE BRAVEST, CAN’T-BE-BOUGHT-BRIBED-OR-INTIMATED CANDIDATE IN AMERICA AND DEFEAT HIM. NOTHING WILL PROVE IT MORE THAN IF YOU CONFRONT OBAMA’S USURPATION HEAD ON.
The candidate who fearlessly and openly challenges Obama’s eligibility will not only become a national and international hero, he will become the next president of the United States.
Mr. Trump, would it be possible for you to get a new hair style if you run for president? You not only must have the big bucks to run—YOU MUST LOOK PRESIDENTIAL.
Respectfully,
This is an open letter that will be e-mailed to my long personal list, published on several web sites with permission for others to post this on their web sites, too.
Paxson | March 21, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
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Dear “walks with truth” (<—- our new indian name for you):
Perhaps you should read this:
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/patrick-fitzgerald-fbi-director-more-obama-control-of-justice-dept-john-kass-naive/#comment-190055
PS EVERYBODY – don’t miss some important discussion at tail end of previous thread. The anger and rage mounts.
observer | March 21, 2011 at 11:49 am | March 21, 2011
Obama in Exile
By Geoffrey P. Hunt
Obama is being chased by his own incompetence, forced to face it, unable to stare it down. Privately he must admit he is over his head and no one — not in the legislature, in the labor unions, in the deep pockets of George Soros nor the salons of liberal media apologists and sympathetic academics — can save his doomed presidency.
Obama is in full retreat. Disengaged and decoupled. A pathetic creature…
A president who voluntary withdraws — or at least sidesteps — from the duties of the office, is derelict, period. Even his own party faithful anxiously look for any sign of leadership coming from Obama, only to be turned away empty handed, yet again. Bereft of personal responsibility towards his fellow Americans, Obama has neither resigned nor renounced his citizenship. Yet through his apology tours has made us wonder whether renouncing his affinity for America and the leadership imperatives due the office would only be a public formality.
more … http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/obama_in_exile.html
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Amen!
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/21/us-china-libya-idUSTRE72K0LX20110321?pageNumber=2
China intensifies condemnation of Libya air strikes
Our obviously illiterate, and SPINELESS Congress does not HAVE to sit on it’s hands while the ILLEGAL MILITARY activity against Libya is PREPETRATED by an ILLEGAL CINC. They have it within their power to STOP HIM COLD, but it is doubtful if any of either the Senate or the House will do,or say anything concrete to stop Mr. BODY ODOR. He has taken it UPON HIMSELF along with his moronic supporters to perpetrate an act of war against a foreign country. While he allegedly had the support of the UN it doesn’t mean that his war should kill the very people who are in need of help to rid themselves of a tyrannical leader. Our Congress has become a USELESS collection of MORONS WHO HAVN’T the courage to even stand up and QUESTION the illegal acts of our alleged POTUS. In so doing they SUPPORT HIM. When Soetoro is finally hauled into the World court for his WAR CRIMES, they too will be sitting next to him in the courtroom. Remember the courtroom in which the Nazi thugs were dealt with? It was also filled with those who SUPPORTED him as well. Most recieved a GARROTE about their necks. Here we are with nearly the same exact attrocities being carried out in the name of “HELPING THE PROTESTORS”. I strongly believe that if the protestors were not strong enough to face Mr. Q they should have done a better job of organising what little power they had, and utilised it in a more efficient manner. In such a country as Libya it is probable that only a HANDFUL of well trained people are necessary to carry out a a well planned COUP DE ETAT, and NOT A PACK OF UNTRAINED people who can’t even direct accurate fire at a hostile aircraft. If the aircraft was brought down by AA fire,it is probable that the aircraft was hit accidentally by one or two stray rounds. AA gunnery is to a certain extent an art form. Untrained personell will use up all the ammo and not hit anything. All they accomplish is making a LOT OF NOISE, and smoke. If they hit anything it is probably an ACCIDENT. Yet from time to time a person shows up who in spite of having little or no training in AA gunnery has the ability to translate the necessary LEAD of the target into the exact amount and scores a hit. Perhaps such a person was operating the AA battery that brought down the Mig 23. If the rag tag army is ever to accomplish anything meaningful they need one hell of a BUNCH of such people, because it is they who will out gun Mr.Qs mercenaries. I can understand and even condone COVERT action against a tyrannical dictator,but I am not at all sure that a FULL SCALE war is needesd either. A hell of a lot of innocent civilians will get caught in the crossfire, and needlesly die. This is counter productive, and hopefully will result in BODY ODOR sitting in a courtroom in the HAGUE. If he is ever determined to to be an ILLEGAL POTUS of the US, he should be tried for TREASON, MURDER, and Federal election fraud. Given the magnitude of what has occurred so far from his hands, it would seem that he could easily end up wearing a garrote, just as did Iedecki Tojo.
Prime Minister denounces bo’s ILLEGAL WAR.
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OBAMA GHRAIB: ARMY APOLOGY
http://drudgereport.com/
OBAMA GHRAIB: ARMY APOLOGY
REPREHENSIBLE bo regime DESPICABLY leaks damaging photos of US Soldiers facing Court Marshall to Al Jazeera, German Press and other USEFUL IDIOTS in bo’s marxist media.
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/03/see_afghan_kill_team_corpse_ph.php
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dem-rep-kucinich-throws-obamas-own-anti-war-words-back-at-him/
Now that Obama has committed to military action in Libya, it will be interesting to see if Democrats and anti-war pundits line up to criticize him. Considering an interview today with Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), maybe, just maybe, it will happen.
Appearing on Fox News today, Kucinich opened up his interview by reading a quote from none other than Barack Obama, who back in the day criticized President Bush for military action in the Mideast:
“I’m gonna read this and then tell you who said it. ‘The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.’ Now that was Barack Obama who said that on December the 20, 2007. We’ve got to be very sure here that we follow the Constitution, and president Obama didn’t do that.”
Kucinich also had this nugget: the intervention we’ve already committed to will cost “half-a-billion dollars.”
Zach Jones
Did I read somewhere that Gadhafi said he was fighting Al Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood because they were trying to take over his country?
Free Speech
I watched that this morning and was dumbfounded! Maybe just maybe that rat has an ounce of love for this country. He kept talking about the Constitution.
Come on Putin…You got what you wanted from the kenyan fraud now send citizen wells a copy of the frauds REAL Long form birth certificate and most of all his PASSPORT! We would love to see why you detained the fraud Illinois senator and his buddy Lugar. Come on Putin you people are good at stabbing one another in the back.
Ginger | March 21, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Zach Jones
Did I read somewhere that Gadhafi said he was fighting Al Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood because they were trying to take over his country?
Ginger | March 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Free Speech
I watched that this morning and was dumbfounded! Maybe just maybe that rat has an ounce of love for this country. He kept talking about the Constitution.
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Ginger,
There is very little that I agree with Kucinich about but he is absolute correct about bo violating the Constitution and the War Powers Act. Both violations are High Crimes. So why isn’t anyone in congress calling for bo’s impeachment?
Here’s how to LEGALLY REMOVE bo NOW! without waiting around for the rinos and demRats to get their acts together.
All congressmen co-conspirators who aided and abetted bo in his crimes must also be INDICTED by State Court Grand Juries.
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Ginger | March 21, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Come on Putin…You got what you wanted from the kenyan fraud now send citizen wells a copy of the frauds REAL Long form birth certificate and most of all his PASSPORT! We would love to see why you detained the fraud Illinois senator and his buddy Lugar. Come on Putin you people are good at stabbing one another in the back.
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Putin like the rinos who only think about their own power are delighted the the IDIOTIC demRats installed this blackmailable FRAUD as pResident. The rinos only care about the fact that bo’s incompetence assures them of victory in 2012 and Putin can’t wait to see Russia replace the US as the most powerful country. If bo is not a KGB agent, there is no doubt that he is controlled by the marxists and musBros.
Regarding Libya, it is well known that bo is backing a musbro takeover of Libya.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110321/ap_on_re_us/us_blagojevich_trial_hearing
Judge: Blago motion to cancel trial to “vanish”
This musbro SCUMBAG looks, speaks and acts more like AchmediNUTjob every day.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/24594649
Worth watching.
http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=14024
God Bless THE TRUTH.
God Bless THE BRINGERS OF TRUTH.
Zach Jones | March 21, 2011 at 7:55 am |
Zach, the reluctance is based upon the fact that these people saw what happened in Iraq and they do not want a repeat of that….
There is nothing to link them to Al Qaeda except in the vicious mind of Daffy Duck who has been spreading that information.
usapatriots-shout | March 21, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
March 20, 2011
Mr. Donald Trump, Personal
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Good letter u-s
Some of you know that I am not a strong fan of the Donald (“If you owe the bank $10,000, you have a creditor around your neck. If you owe the bank $100,000.00, you have a bank for a PARTNER”), but your letter puts up many questions that he must abide to. Namely the Birther-Eligibility question. If he agressively attacks on that question and puts up that $600,000,000.00(600 Million Dollars) that he keeps repeating to put into a Presidential Race, then I will give him a listen. He is the only one to bring the Birther issue up.
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All congressmen co-conspirators who aided and abetted bo in his crimes must also be INDICTED by State Court Grand Juries.
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Free Speech | March 21, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
Regarding Libya, it is well known that bo is backing a musbro takeover of Libya.
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This is Absolute Truth. You know, if you stuck with sane and defensible points such as this, people would not hate you as much nor call for your being banned. (just something to think about – if you have any wits for self-reflection).
Now, for our friend Aussie: We agree that the Libyan situation may be dramatically different than some of the other places. And that there are actually respectable and deserving protestors. HOWEVER – any chaos at all is a strong chance for Al Qaeda or Musbros to stick their nose into the situation and stir things up. In the end, some of us worry more about this than we do Qadaffi. In Mubarak’s case, it is open and shut that, with all his faults, he is/was better than what will follow. Mark our words. The musbros (who were partially contained and controlled by Mubarak) will come out on top in Egypt. Israel will suffer greatly. While admitting that Libya is different, we are concerned that it is a crap shoot. We believe that the chances are near 50/50 for something better than Qadaffi. That means that is also 50/50 for same or worse.
Our theory is that you never get into the middle of a civil war or “nation building” unless you KNOW the outcome and can CONTROL it. Just stirring things up and then letting things try to resettle does not strike us as Good Strategy. We say that one must almost always choose the devil we know over the devil we don’t.
The election of Obamessiah, The Won, is a prime example. “Bush is SO bad that we have to have change”. That is a BAD REASON to ever do anything.
The NEOCONS are primarily at fault. They are the ones that like to stir things up without having control of the outcome. That is what they did in Iraq. We agree that Iraq war was necessary and disagree with all the revisionist poppycock. But we did it wrong. Things needed to be done with Prussian Efficiency until we had restored order and installed a proper outcome. Only then, to withdraw. But that is another long story.
BOTTOM LINE: We interfered in Libya without thinking it through or having any sense of the outcome other than “kill qadaffi”. Decapitate the beast and ‘hope’ it grows a better head. Very scary.
citizenwells | March 19, 2011 at 6:52 am |
The following information posted by SueQ
Is a lie and defamatory toward Leo and insulting to me since I fully investigated the situation. This crosses the boundary of disagreeing and will not be tolerated. An apology is in order.
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Thank you, CW. The DISGUTING obots have become intolerable, posting nothing but LIES and bo propaganda. They know that their “messiah” bo’s days are numbered now that bo is despised everywhere in the World.
The ANIMAL lawyer, sunstein, and its crew of PERVERT OBOTS will soon be put away along with their messiah” hopefully the MISCREANTS will not have internet access in Prison.
After all the LIES that the obots have posted, the obots have NO CREDIBILITY.
It is best to IDENTIFY obots like FOS and those who reply to obot FOS and then simply IGNORE them. The obots only intention is to disrupt from intelligent discussion and give CW a bad reputation.
Regardless of whether the obots agree or pretend to disagree with other obots, the goal of the obots who reply to obots like FOS is the same, to disrupt all serious debate, ruining the experience for reasonable people, and giving CW a bad reputation.
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All congressmen co-conspirators who aided and abetted bo in his crimes must also be INDICTED by State Court Grand Juries.
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http://connect.freedomworks.org/
@Ginger,
I have been watching the Libya situation since it began. From everything that I have read, I have seen no evidence that the Freedom Fighters are associated with Al Qaeda. They would be just as unwelcome as the foreign military.
You may not be aware that the British sent in the SAS, MI6 and a diplomat to make contact. They were quite naturally captured and taken to the leaders of the Freedom Fighters (they did spend a night or two in prison as a safety precaution). The Freedom Fighters verified their identities (had to because they had multiple passports and that did not make them happy) and after they had spoken to the leadership they were allowed to leave. Is that how Al Qaeda would have treated them?
As for any MB connection, think of this: The MB is set up by the Shia and is backed by Iran. The Libyans are Sunni. Once again there appears to be no MB involvement.
Now that leaves the make up of these people: they belong to several tribes and they have a common goal which means that they have been able to work together.
In order to understand how all this happened you have to go back to the small protest that started the chain reaction. Daffy’s people killed protestors during that first protest in Benghazi. I do not know if those original people were Al Qaeda or MB (I have doubts about that)… there was a funeral procession, and Daffy’s people fired upon the procession maybe due to the throwing of rocks at the fort. Yep, that was their sophisticated weapons. More people were killed. The crowd got bigger. The protests got bigger… a new procession, more rock throwing and the men at the head of the procession were mowed down (these were the relatives of those already killed). Then the people started to find other weapons – gunpowder in empty bottles of 7 up make great molotov cocktails and the gunpwder is normally used for their fishing!! Then there were their fishing guns… and one man at the back of the next funeral procession who had packed his car with cooking gas bottles. He sacrificed his life and breeched the wall of the fort… thus the people defeated Daffy’s thugs that day.
The next move was astounding because the interior minister turned up with an army unit…. all of them had defected. Yes the army had begun to defect.
Daffy sent his aircraft to bombard Benghazi and fire upon the people. Two of the pilots flew to Cyprus (I think that is where it was) and they defected, refusing to fire upon their own people. Then in another instance, the pilots of an aircraft ejected and let the plane crash, rather than fire upon the people.
Many of the armed services were killed because they refused to go into action against their own.
When the people of Benghazi captured the fort in the town they also gained possession of the weapons dump. They no longer needed their bbq skewers and their scimitars and other world war 1 and 2 weapons. The former army generals signed up the volunteers and then drilled them in preparation for the fight ahead. All Libyan men have 6 months military training so they all know how to use weapons anyway. The weapons being used come from the military dump.
This was repeated in other cities… Brega, Adjadyab (sp) Ras Lanuf, Zawiya and elsewhere. There were defections in Zawiyah and the people held the town for a few weeks… and then Daffy slaughtered them… men women and children were killed and injured in that town.
Note that I have not dealt with the Al Qaeda rumours spread about by Daffy and his sons, and now I will get to that….
At the beginning of the protests, Daffy released some people from prison who had been members of Al Qaeda. It was a ruse so that he could blame them for the uprising.
The people in Zawiyah have insisted that they are not members of Al Qaeda, and you will hear the same in Benghazi. It is the same in those other towns. This is not a fight with Al Qaeda.
Now some people are using the guilt by association because:
1. The leadership of Al Qaeda have supported this rebellion. Why should anyone be surprised because Al Qaeda is dedicated to the overthrow of these dictatorships. (although Saudi Arabia is their main target)
2. In the early days of the protests Qadawri (sp) the MB imam who had returned to Egypt put out a Fatwah on the head of Daffy, meaning that Muslims are free to kill him. The Fatwah does not of itself prove that MB is behind the uprising, because all it does is give permission to kill a real bad person.
So there you have the guilt by association which is now being picked up by a number of people who are running with the story that these people are either MB or Al Qaeda, which is not the case.
Another guilt by association is that the people when an aircraft (their own) was shot down in error, they shouted Allah Akbar. Heck they are Muslims, and that is what they do in the case of what they think is a victory. It was not a case of shouting it prior to a suicide bombing.
Other than the one man who killed himself via a car bomb for the sake of his people, I have not heard of any other suicide bombing. I read most reports and the suicide bombing is a trait of both MB and Al Qaeda. It is simply not happening to day.
FOS Alert | March 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
FOS I hear what you are saying on the possibility of MB and Al Qaeda sticking their noses in, but I doubt that the Libyans would appreciate such interference.
I suggest looking at the timeline of events, and the defection of the army units. Also that the leadership is in the hands of the former interior minister.
If there is no splintering between the tribes after they get rid of Daffy then such fears will be allayed.
Of course it is a big risk, but with regard to MB, they are usually present where there are Shiites. this is why they are involved in Syria, Bahrain, Egypt, Qatar, Yemen etc. In fact Al Qaeda is likely involved with Yemen as well. Those countries have a large Shiite population and MB plus Iran had been busy stirring the pot.
The Libyans have more in common with the Iranians in that they do not seem to be connected to either of these groups and that the protests have come from the people responding to the killing of their own, rather than from those outside influences. To this I add that there was an outside influence… they were spurred on and encouraged by the events in Tunisia and Egypt and I think that they expected the west to take their side a lot earlier.
In the middle weeks they were not only asking for the no-fly zone, they were asking for Bush!! The recognized that with a Bush you get action, but with Østupid, not so much…
Another telling factor about their loyalties was the production of the old Libyan flag, prior to the coup against king Idriss. That is significant because it shows their more nationalist tendencies in the situation.
The women wear a scarf like the hijab, but they do not wear the niquab or full burka. If they were either MB or AQ they would be more likely to be in the full dress.
On top of that, at least in Benghazi, there is a strong affiliation with the west, because many of them have been educated in the UK and the kinda like the western way of life.
So, I would say hold off for now and see what develops, but I still see no real signs of either MB or AQ, rather this is a real people uprising.
@FOS ALERT
you might also want to read this story:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/22/3169950.htm
It tells more about the nature of the rebellion that is happening and much more about their motivation, as well as explaining their reason why they do not want any foreign interference.. (including MB and AQ)
Like it says these forces are made up of former army units plus volunteers.
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/mccain-and-lieberman-criticize-obama-
CROWLEY: Did President Obama wait too long on the U.N. to act?
MCCAIN: He waited too long. There is no doubt in my mind about it.
CROWLEY: You all, when I talked to you, called for that no-fly zone. And I think the question that is really out there now is, is it too late?
MCCAIN: I hope it’s not too late. And I believe it’s not too late. Obviously, if we had taken this step a couple weeks ago a no- fly zone would probably have been enough. Now a no-fly zone is not enough… The aircraft carrier is a long ways away. Aircraft carriers should have been on station a long time ago.
LIEBERMAN: I think if the world had acted earlier, you know, three or four weeks since the conflict in Libya turned bloody, is not a long period of time. But in a conflict, it is a long period of time. Because Gadhafi…
CROWLEY: Timing is all.
LIEBERMAN: Yes, Gadhafi had so much of an advantage in terms of logistics, command and control, weapons, that time helped him every day while the world refused to make the decision. I think earlier on, maybe a no-fly zone could have done it.
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All congressmen co-conspirators who aided and abetted bo in his crimes must also be INDICTED by State Court Grand Juries.
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-indict-bho-for-criminal-cover-up.html
http://connect.freedomworks.org/
CW. Re:/ FS @ 3:00
Are you really friends with this dou.he bag? Is that really his method of “interpersonal conversation ” with you? Certainly when you talk on the phone with him isn’t just him talking at you with the derogatory adjectives that that sound like the ramblings of a mad man? You seem to be way too thoughtful and courteous of a man to have even one conversation like the weird post at 3:00 from CW to you.
Not to mention, have you ever tried to follow What FS is really trying to say through his words or endorsed articles? He’s all over the map. He’s either mentally challenged or insane or both.
Not to mention, CW, have you noticed that FS only cares about himself?
Just my two cents, CW. Also sticking up for myself from those insane group of derogatory adjectives that FS seems to want to pass for interpersonal conversation with you
there are protests in Syria:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12811576
Who is behind them? Is this the work of George Soros?
Assad is the Baath party, yet he is allied to Iran. The uprising seems to be coming from the Shiites. Could Iran be behind the manipulation?
This is a more worrying situation since Assad is a known enemy.
President Medeved(sp) does not agree with remarks made by the ex-KGB Putin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12810566
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http://connect.freedomworks.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg1U4AkF6tY&feature=player_embedded
Aussie. ..I imagine if we look closely enough at the articles and ideas that FS endorses, we’ll be able to add Soros to the FOFS (friends of FS). It’s a regular “who’s who ” list of turd like humans ( Gaddafi….Farrakhan.
Putin…..The Arab League. ….etc.).
..The
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/us-action-in-libya-sparks-concern-among-some-lawmakers-over-congresss-role/2011/03/19/ABfYAfy_blog.html
U.S. action in Libya sparks concern among some lawmakers over Congress’s role
By Felicia Sonmez
As the United States joins an international coalition in launching strikes on Libya, several members of Congress are pushing for a greater debate on the U.S. military role there, with some saying they feel the White House overstepped its bounds by not seeking formal congressional approval of military action.
In response to concerns from some of their caucus members, House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson (Conn.) and Vice-Chairman Xavier Becerra (Calif.) hosted a conference call Saturday during which rank-and-file House Democrats discussed the developments in Libya and asked questions of members who had attended a closed-door White House meeting a day earlier.
another news report that fills in some of the detail regarding the town of Misrata:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/21/3169786.htm
The townspeople are desparate. Daffy’s soldiers are dressed as civilians. I have no doubt that is a ploy by Daffy to make the false charge about civilians being killed… even though Daffy is the one doing all of the killing.
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@Paxson, the Arab League has stated that they fully endorse the present action.
They have backed away from those other comments of misgiving. I guess someone informed them that Daffy tried to pull the wool over their eyes to split the coalition against him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/strange-bedfellows-webb-radtke-both-criticize-obama-administration-handling-of-libya/2011/03/21/ABh0Iy7_blog.html
Strange bedfellows: Webb, Radtke both criticize Obama administration’s handling of Libya
By Ben Pershing
Both Sen. James Webb (D-Va.) and one of the Republicans seeking to replace him, tea party leader Jamie Radtke, harshly criticized the Obama administration Monday for its launch of airstrikes against Libya, proving that the latest Middle East conflict has created some strange political bedfellows.
Congressional critics on both sides of the aisle have accused the White House of mishandling the situation in recent days, with some calling the entire operation misguided and some just complaining that they weren’t consulted. In an interview on MSNBC Monday, Webb — a former Navy secretary and influential Senate voice on military and foreign policy matters — added his voice to that chorus.
“We do not have a clear diplomatic policy or a clear statement of foreign policy that is accompanying this military operation,” Webb said, later emphasizing that President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton “have a very clear obligation now to come forward to the American people and to the Congress and state clearly what the y believe the endpoint of this should be. They haven’t done that.”
Yemen is another hot spot:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/21/3169848.htm
Yemeni generals are defecting and joining the protesters. It looks like MB and AQ will have a win.
This is a far more serious situation than in Libya because we already know that Iran, MB and AQ are behind the protests.
http://onyxbook.com/2011/03/arab-league-denounces-libya-strikes-as-qatar-pledges-to-join-in/
Arab League denounces Libya strikes
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-indict-bho-for-criminal-cover-up.html
http://connect.freedomworks.org/
now here is a two-faced comment from none other than the Grand Poohbah of Iran:
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/03/iranian-leader-khamenei-obama-is-lying/
I wonder whether you can pick up the inconsistencies. Again it more or less shows that Iran is on Daffy’s side rather than that of the Freedom Fighters.
someone is using out of date information.
The leader of the Arab League has again stated that he supports the no-fly zone and he has done that in conjunction with Ban Ki Moon.
Take some time to read the updated reports instead of posting stuff that is so out of date.
http://onyxbook.com/2011/03/arab-league-denounces-libya-strikes-as-qatar-pledges-to-join-in/
Arab League denounces Libya strikes
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the real civilian death toll is in Misrata where 40 people were killed and more than 100 were injured by Daffy’s thugs
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/21/libya-military-action-live-updates
http://www.favstocks.com/arab-league-denounces-military-strikes-by-u-s-and-allies-on-libya/2137846/
Arab League Denounces Military Strikes By U.S. and Allies on Libya
If you are fed up with waiting for congress to get a clue, then here’s how to LEGALLY REMOVE bo NOW! without waiting around for the rinos and demRats to get their acts together.
All congressmen co-conspirators who aided and abetted bo in his crimes must also be INDICTED by State Court Grand Juries.
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-indict-bho-for-criminal-cover-up.html
http://connect.freedomworks.org/
Aussie. ..read? Why bother if your only purpose is to aggitate?
and the cynicism lives on in the media:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8396717/Libya-Who-speaks-for-Colonel-Gaddafi.html
Beware the information that comes from the Three Stooges that have become the front for Daffy Duck.
Paxson | March 21, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
He has been posting from out of touch and out of date sources that have their own agenda.
The Arab League is not against the action. That has been resolved and the man who expressed some misgiving appeared at a conference with Ban Ki Moon, fully accepting the action.
It is also possible that his original Arabic comments were distorted in the interpretation, and on top of that he was probably reacting to the Daffy Duck lies about civilians being killed.
Some sources from the UK have shown pictures at gravesites where the men were waiting for the bodies of alleged victims that did not arrive!! Go figure… because they just put paid to Daffy’s lies.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/blasts-and-antiaircraft-fire-near-gaddafi-tripoli-compound-20110322-1c439.html
The report states that in Cairo the Arab League has affirmed its support of the action being taken to enforce a no-fly zone.
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-world/kadhafi-strongholds-bombed-as-misrata-said-overrun-20110321-1c3hw.html
in part the report states:
Rebels, meanwhile, said they were under intense attack by Kadhafi’s forces in the city of Misrata near Tripoli and an AFP reporter saw them beaten back from a frail attempt to retake the eastern key town of Ajdabiya.
In Cairo, the Arab League on Monday reaffirmed its support for Operation Odyssey Dawn after the previous day saying the air strikes led by the United States, France and Britain went beyond the scope of a UN resolution to implement a no-fly zone.
The operation was launched on Saturday to enforce UN Security Council Resolution 1973 aimed at stopping Kadhafi’s forces harming civilians as they battle a month-long uprising.
so much for any declaration of a ceasefire from Daffy:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/21/us-libya-fighting-zintan-idUSTRE72K7FZ20110321?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FworldNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+International%29
Once again Daffy’s forces have opened fire on towns where the people are poorly equipped.
The women and children have fled to caves.
The story is repeated in Misrata where Daffy’s forces have dressed as civilians and then opened fire on the residents killing at least 40 with more than 100 injured. There are also claims that they brought in hostages from other towns forcing them to carry pictures of Daffy Duck.
it is now estimated that the tsunami wave that struck the Fukushima power plant was 14 metres high.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/japan-nuclear-plant-crippled-by-14-metre-wave/story-e6frfku0-1226025945156?from=public_rss
CITIZEN WELLS, SIR
Is this REALLY what you want for your blog? First of all, this was just posted gratuitously out of nowhere. SueQ has not posted anything an days (thanks to you-know-who, who ran her off!)
Second, it is a mismash of quotes and attributions so that you can’t tell who wrote what. In the end, it is easily misconstrued so that it seems like you, sir, said the whole thing. Are you really happy with this?
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Free Speech | March 21, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
citizenwells | March 19, 2011 at 6:52 am |
The following information posted by SueQ
Is a lie and defamatory toward Leo and insulting to me since I fully investigated the situation. This crosses the boundary of disagreeing and will not be tolerated. An apology is in order.
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Thank you, CW. The DISGUTING obots have become intolerable, posting nothing but LIES and bo propaganda. They know that their “messiah” bo’s days are numbered now that bo is despised everywhere in the World.
The ANIMAL lawyer, sunstein, and its crew of PERVERT OBOTS will soon be put away along with their messiah” hopefully the MISCREANTS will not have internet access in Prison.
After all the LIES that the obots have posted, the obots have NO CREDIBILITY.
It is best to IDENTIFY obots like FOS and those who reply to obot FOS and then simply IGNORE them. The obots only intention is to disrupt from intelligent discussion and give CW a bad reputation.
Regardless of whether the obots agree or pretend to disagree with other obots, the goal of the obots who reply to obots like FOS is the same, to disrupt all serious debate, ruining the experience for reasonable people, and giving CW a bad reputation.
Aussie | March 21, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
FOS Alert | March 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
FOS I hear what you are saying on the possibility of MB and Al Qaeda sticking their noses in, …
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Thank you SO MUCH for an intelligent reply to something we don’t exactly agree on. Your response was to further explain your position and to point to reputable sources to bolster your points.
You-know-who: ARE YOU WATCHING? This is an example of how you conduct a polite and civilized discussion. If you have valid arguments, put them out there for people to read and come to their own conclusions.
You-know-who: ARE YOU READING? This is an example of how you read and learn. No one on this blog has all the answers. No one on this blog is right all the time. The only way we all get smarter is to read and think and discuss things amongst ourselves. Then we all get smarter, like a rising tide.
On this issue Aussie and I and are not in dire opposition, but certainly not pointed in the same direction either. She has done a lot of research and makes a compelling and sound case. On this particular argument (between me and her) I would say that a sane and rational person might come to the conclusion to lean in her favor. Me? I’m still worried. I worry about Musbros more than anything. So I am not quite ready to buy her story yet. More head scratching to do. But I honor her by thinking about what she says and doing more research.
You-know-who: ARE YOU LISTENING? This is how actual human beings communicate. We do not throw acid on each other. We do not call people despicable names. We do not misquote each other and take their words out of context. And, no, I don’t think Aussie will repeat her rebuttal to me over and over and over. I will be happy to show you the same courtesy is soon as you drop the Demented Prick behavior and decide to adopt at least a facade of being human.
For all of us (including the departed JS and especially the not-yet-departed FS), here is some final wisdom:
God gave us two ears and two eyes,
but only one mouth.
Contemplate that.
FOS
It is possible to have disagreement over points of view, whether They be over minutia or larger things, and still consider yourself to be aligned with that person in the big picture. It is the big picture that matters.
this report is interesting because it breaks down the support for the no-fly zone amongst the ME countries:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/21/libyan-air-strikes-middle-east-reaction
There are some very contrary opinions, and I note that even the Iranian students are wary about the action.
However, what I note is the wariness about the possibility of another Iraq or Afghanistan, but truly the circumstances are different.
@Paxson,
yes, it is the big picture. Honestly on this issue I can only hope that my analysis and instinct is correct.
I punted on the people of Iran when they were so p’ed off over being cheated with their elections. I was really hoping that they could get rid of the Grand Poohbah and Ahmahnutjob, but when Østupid ignored their plight until Neda was murdered in cold blood, (and then it was only giving them 5 minutes of his time), they had no hope of having outside support.
One of the things that Libya and Iran have in common is the use of mercenaries to be brutal to the people. Iran did it first, when Ahmanutjob brought in Hamas and Hezbollah to do most of the killing and the torture.
I think that the Iranian experience is probably clouding my judgement, yet I cannot see any true link to either MB or AQ. After all, Libyans are Sunni, and not Shia, and MB are Shia not Sunni, but AQ is a mixture of both Shia and Sunni (more likely Wahibbi type Sunni). Even if some Libyans have been involved with AQ in the past it does not mean that this revolution is the work of AQ – it is a people uprising, just like in Iran.
Latest from Misrata where Daffy has continued the slaughter: 23 unarmed civilians in Misrata have been killed, and more than 100 injured:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/22/3170602.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/well-see-depleted-uranium-missiles-thrown-by-western-aircraft-on-libya.html
Balkans expert Marko Gasic predicts Libya will become a new Iraq. He says that now that the cease-fire is needed for peace, that should be the aim of the mission. The mission has now become compromised, he says, and should be stopped as soon as possible.