Obama Waterloo, Natural born citizen status, Birth certificate, Rezko Blagojevich board rigging, What will remove Obama?

Obama Waterloo, Natural born citizen status, Birth certificate, Rezko Blagojevich board rigging, What will remove Obama?

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“Why did the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee, with Obama as chairman, create and push Bill 1332, “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” early in 2003, which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, just prior to rigging by Tony Rezko and Rod Blagojevich?”…Citizen Wells

What will be the cause of Obama being removed from the White House, Obama’s Waterloo?

  • By the most accepted definition of Natural Born Citizen, Obama is not eligible.
  • Obama continues to employ attorneys to prevent presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records.
  • With the trials of Blagojevich and William Cellini on the horizon and the delayed sentencing of Tony Rezko, will the truth emerge about Obama’s involvement in the rigging of the IL Planning Board and other Chicago corruption surface in court?

Obama was Chairman of the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee in 2003.

From Citizen Wells April 1, 2010.

“These 2 statements, selected from the above, are important.
“At the relevant time period, the Planning Board consisted of nine individuals.”
“In or about the spring of 2004, REZKO and LEVINE agreed that LEVINE, whose term on the TRS Board was due to expire in May 2004, needed to be reappointed to the TRS Board and that additional TRS Board members needed to be appointed who would cooperate with REZKO and LEVINE.”
Citizen Wells blog, December 11, 2008.
“Obama’s role in rigging the Health Planning Facilities Board
Evelyn Pringle, Obama Curtain Time 2
“Obama was chairman of the Senate Health & Human Services Committee in January 2003. A few articles in the media have mentioned that Obama sat on a committee that reviewed matters related to the Planning Board in conjunction with the Governor’s staff but none have discussed his integral part in getting the bill passed.
A review of senate records from January 2003 to August 2003, shows Obama played a major role as chairman of that committee, in pushing through Senate Bill 1332, that led to the “Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act,” which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, making the votes much easier to rig.
Democratic Senator Susan Garrett sponsored the bill in the senate, and the chief co-sponsor was Republican Senator Dale Righter. These two senators were also on the Human Services Committee with Obama.
The bill was filed with the senate secretary on February 20, 2003, and assigned to Human Services Committee for review on February 27. Less than a month later, as chairman, Obama sent word that the bill should be passed on March 13, 2003.
On May 31, 2003, the House and Senate passed the bill and the only senator listed in the “yes” votes mentioned in the Board Games indictments is Obama.
Blagojevich made the effective date June 27, 2003, and the co-schemers already had the people lined up to stack the Board and rig the votes with full approval from Obama.””

Read more:
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/rod-blagojevich-trial-june-3-2010-chicago-illinois-corruption-obama-role-in-rigging-il-health-board-rezko-levine-blagojevich-obama-et-al-will-justice-prevail-will-the-msm-and-fox-cover-all-co/

262 responses to “Obama Waterloo, Natural born citizen status, Birth certificate, Rezko Blagojevich board rigging, What will remove Obama?

  1. So does this mean Hillary v. Sarah for ’12?

  2. Ted, I would think they are both just as corrupt. Neither of the 2 prevented an ineligible citizen from the White House. And both had the power to do so. Keep on fighting the good fight, stay safe, God Bless.

  3. Margie, if that’s the case, then name one GOPer who would qualify?

  4. “What will remove Obama?”

    Grand Jury Criminal Indictments on one or more of the following charges:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html


    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  5. Free Speech;–

    For some time now you’ve been making this site unbearable — clogging it up with the same stuff.

    I used to be a regular here. I am not alone.

  6. It may be too late to charge BO with crimes that he committed as a State Senator in Illinois, i.e., the Statute of Limitations may have run out. I would defer on the issue of which Chicago Crimes for which BO can still be indicted to CW and others who are more familiar with BO’s Chicago Crimes.

    Regardless, there is more that ample Proof of BO’s Crimes in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 to indict and legally remove BO.

  7. The Arizona Killer was a BHO Supporter. Congresswoman Giffords and Judge Roll were strong critics of the BHO regime’s aiding and abetting of the invasion of Mexican Terrorists into Arizona. BO incited his Supporter Arizona Killer Loughner to assassinate Judge Roll and Congresswoman Giffords with his violent rhetoric against Congresswoman Giffords and Judge Roll.

    On the Criminal Charge of Criminal Negligent Homicide, there is no question about the Guilt of both BO and Dupnik. BO failed to provide Judge Roll with adequate US Marshall Protection despite the fact that BO was on that Judge Rolls’ life had been threatened by BO Followers.

    BO Cohort Dupnik neglected to provide Congressman Giffords with protection from the BO Supporter Arizona Killer Loughner, despite the Fact that Dupnik was on notice that Loughner had threatened Congresswoman Giffords’ life.

    Furthermore, Dupnik failed to prevent the Homicidal Maniac Loughner from purchasing a Gun and Ammunition which he used to Murder several Innocent Arizona Citizens, including a 9 year old girl.

    Constitutionalist Judge John Roll may have been the REAL Target of Arizona gunman.


    Giffords Opposition to BHO regime

  8. Dr. Sam Sewell: “I think CGJ is the quickest, most effective, and most practical way to clean up government corruption. I have yet to see a viable argument against that premise.”

    Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

  9. Ted, we need new blood. Alan Keyes has faught for the truth.

  10. Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm |

    FS – Excellent!

    ***************************
    As to the claim that nobody reads your repetitive posts, you should know that the posts with links to my blog are numerous… the lurkers must still be hungry for your ideas because my statcounter still keeps spinning with hits from CW.

    ———————————————-
    Thank you for your kind comments.

    As you know from my first annonymous post on the Steady Drip, I was a rather reluctant patriot thrust into this constitutional debate out of a sense of Duty.

    Nonetheless, it is gratifying to learn that the obots who seek to defame me have only succeeded in making my writings on the crimes of Obama more widely known; but I am most honored by the fact that I have gained some respect from one of the Foremost Patriots of our Time, Aristotle.

  11. Sorry – can’t spell my own nickname right – above comment was supposed to be from Carlyle.

    Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 9:45 pm |

    You have many good points, but also some misrepresentations, or perhaps just misconceptions. In the interest of clarity, I will address the most problematic areas – my comments in bold.

    Did you or did you not make previous comments on this board urging CW to block certain posters abridging their free speech”

    I did not. If you read my work you will see that I strongly complain in this way about illegal and uncivilized behavior only. Here is a direct quote of my very last comment on this topic, only a short while ago:

    “In the spirit of true American freedom of speech, I would never exclude somebody for the simple issue of disagreeing. But the level of insult, demonstrated incompetence, and flat out dish0nesty has reached proportions that make an exclusion decision EASY!”

    You will further find that even the greatest bodies of free speech in the world, the houses of the US congress, have rules of order and ethics requirements. People are sidelined or kicked out for violating same. This simple logic makes sense to me.

    Have you not commented that some on this board are too ignorant to grasp the civil unrest impeachment would cause, and are driving this cause to assuage injury to their egos?

    Your statement/question is too simplestic – let me expand. Yes, I believe that ego injury has crept into our discussions in much to big a way. I request each to pray and search own soul to rid self of all such inappropriate thoughts. Certainly some who post here are ignorant – but that is not my point. My point is that we don’t discuss it, and we should. We should understand the price to be paid for what we advocate. My major beef is with people who dismiss the obvious – i.e. harming Obamessiah in any will will cause grave civil unrest and international risk.

    However, it was my mistake if your comment about ad libbing was not meant to impugn the comments of others.

    Again, “impugn” may not be the right word, nor “ad libbing”. But I do indeed believe that some posters here “make up their own facts” and others seem to be here for the express purpose of sowing disinformation and diverting the efforts of righteous patriots.

    Aussie @6:38 PM … Your swift defense of your friend demonstrates that you consider his speech above criticism, sancrosanct as it were, his sacred right.

    I will answer this question for you. I am not above righteous criticism. I invite people to analyze what I write and provide factual or well-reasoned criticism. I am, however, above bullying attacks – as are you – and should be every one else. Aussie and I disagree politely on some things – and we are both OK with that. It is not the disagreements. It is the infantile reactions and calling people names when your logic fails.

    Many on this board, however, seem not to want to admit that in silencing those whom they disagree.

    As far as I know, there is only ONE person on this blog who excoriates people for the simple and single reason that they disagree with them. Please direct this concern to them.

    How does calling someone an ‘obot’ rise to the level of justifying taking away a man’s millstone?

    Again, you have called out the wrong person. I am not the one who does this.


  12. Lillibet exposes carlyle

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    Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

    **********************************

    I have NO need to fabricate what I have told you here. Choose not to believe as suits your purpose and level of understanding about what and whom the citizens are confronting in merely asking questions about Hambama. Unlike you, I have actually stepped out from the protection of the crowd and alerted authorities.

    ***********************************************************

    Well Said, Lillibet!

    And thank you for exposing the FACT that carlyle, by his own admission, is fabricating what he posts on CW, i.e., Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

  13. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 12:12 pm |

    “What will remove Obama?”

    Grand Jury Criminal Indictments on one or more of the following charges:

    ============================================

    Here is a very good example of mixing things up to the detriment of “fixing our common problem”. Some of the things in this list are strongly known and understood and are indeed good grounds for immediate legal action. These include:

    2. Birth Document Forgeries however, even if true, it would be very hard to tie to Obama

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities. not sure about this one

    However, these are in the speculation and wishful thinking category. I even think of them as approaching ODS. These are far indeed from any possible immediate legal action. I am not saying they are not true. They may turn out to be. It is just premature.

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

  14. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 1:02 pm |

    Lillibet exposes carlyle

    ================================

    Congratulations – you have now just elevated yourself to

    MALICIOUS MAJOR MORON

    At some point, CW will eventually realize that you continually violate any reasonable sense of ETHICS and RULES OF PROCEDURE for a serious blog.

    Besides pizzing off me and other Righteous Patriots, every time you do this, your own credibility takes a dive. Ranting and railing does not a serious discussion make. Nor is it a valid expression of “freedom of speech”.

  15. The Hillbuzz guys are usually pretty good. This blog article is making the rounds on Lucianne.com as some ground breaking revelation. We have kicked this theory around for over two years. In addition, the body of the work is riddled with factual errors with respect to time frames etc. Can somebody who blogs over there have them go through and correct their factual details? Also, they don’t mention that if their theory were correct, that the COLB that Obama posted would 100% have to be fraud as the record in Hawaii would be Soetero. They also don’t consider the fact that via the adoption Barry Soetero became an Indonesian citizen and lost U.S. citizenship and that there is no evidence as to whether or not he re-applied.

    I’m glad that they are getting some play on Lucianne.com, but their piece could be brushed up a little bit. Just my two cents.

    http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/23/hawaii-ground-report-could-hawaiian-governor-neil-abercrombie-not-be-as-incompetent-and-foolish-as-he-appears-but-orchestrating-a-deliberate-birth-certificate-recovery-dead-end-to-cover-his-own-pap/

  16. “What will remove Obama?”

    Grand Jury Criminal Indictments on one or more of the following charges:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

    Regarding the Crimes that BO committed as a State Senator in Illinois, I would defer on the issue of which Chicago Crimes BO can still be indicted to CW and others who are more familiar with BO’s Chicago Crimes.

    Regardless, there is more than ample PROOF of BO’s Crimes in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 to indict and legally remove BO.


    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  17. This is Mario Apuzo’s reply to the false accusations of this blogs most prolific poster, free speech. You can go to Apuzo’s web blog at http://puzo1.wordpress.com/ and read his reply to the myriad of false accusations by the most prolific poster at this blog site, free speech. For those of you that believe that free speech is contributing valuable information to this blog, he is not. He spreads false information and also falsely accuses real attorneys that are on the front lines of fighting the BHO eligibility in the courts.

    This is a quote by Mario Apuzo in response to one of free speeches rants about why Apuzo was suing congress on the eligibility issue.

    “Why did we sue Congress in the Kerchner case? First, it violated its duty under the 20th Amendment to protect my clients’ 5th Amendment rights to life, liberty, safety, security, tranquility, and property by assuring them that only a qualified President-Elect, i.e., a “natural born Citizen,” was confirmed for the Office of President. Second, it is the only smart thing to do to sue a party to whom either the defense or the court or both will point and say that it is absent from the case when it should have been in the case because only that branch of government can provide the remedy requested by plaintiffs. Third, by suing Congress, the political question doctrine is avoided because we said that while Congress may have had the power to fix the wrong, it unconstitutionally refused to use that power to fix that wrong. Are you [free speech] also not the one that was telling everyone that I sued each individual member of Congress and how did I expect to serve them all and take discovery from each of them? Such a false allegation clearly shows that you [free speech] really do not understand much of how a legal action works. You [free speech] have been camped out at the CitizenWells blog for some time now spreading false information about the Obama eligibility cases and the efforts of the eligibility attorneys. You [free speech] make it your passion to be always the first one to start the thread and inject your propaganda into the discussion. I know what you [free speech] are up to. Surely anyone with any reasonable intelligence can see right through your [free speech] propaganda game and can conclude that you [free speech] are not on our side. Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

  18. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 1:08 pm |

    Hi Carlyle,

    I, too, have had enough!

    Notice all the decent, Patriotic posters who are no longer here: Greg, LindaNY, Peter Francisco, and most recently OldSalt. We’ve been chatting via e-mail and he is gone for good; he won’t even read here anymore. To name-call is one thing, but to insult and name-call a Veteran (and a hero, in my estimation) is completely unacceptable. Yet, it is allowed.

    You and I have disagreed in the past, but have respected each other’s point of view; that’s what ‘Freedom of Speech’ really means; not the one who calls himself that and who has admonished and degraded anyone who disagrees with his twisted point of view.

    If I’m not mistaken, he has a wife and child. When does he have the time to pay any attention to his family if he’s on a blog posting garbage and punching others out fron sun up to sun down?

    If he was really ever arrested, I truly wonder why.

    There are some serious psychological issues here, with which we all are forced to deal. That shouldn’t be. This should be a place where we can come (as we have in the past) to share information and learn, not to be insulted, ridiculed and called names.

    I know that I’ve left before however, reading this trash hour after hour, day after day, is causing a major headache and a ton of stress.

    I wish you and all the good posters the best of luck, and thank CW for all his hard work to expose the truth.

    Take good care.

    Sue

  19. Carlyle,
    With respect to:
    2. Birth Document Forgeries however, even if true, it would be very hard to tie to Obama

    You are splitting hairs here. His Press Secretary, Robert Gibbs, says that he personally posted it. He is a representative of Barack Obama. One would have to believe that Obama knew absolutely nothing about it. Even though, as jbjd points out, it may not be a criminal act itself, the American people would immediately turn their backs on Obama if found out to be a forgery. In fact, even if it were not a punishable offense, I would gain almost as much joy if the MSM reported it to be a forgery but not punishable. The Democratic party would be finished. Public perception is just as important as whether or not it was an actual crime.

    Not to mention, and I am not an attorney here, but under RICO statutes the federal sweep would look more like an “organized crime” bust than quibbling over splitting hairs on ways that they thought that they “outsmarted the system”. I understand that they need to find something to get their teeth into, but why are you always so negative about each crime rather than seeing the big picture in it’s totallity?

    Carlyle, no offense, but you seem to take great pride in how each charge has some “out” for Obama and the gang. We don’t expect them to be stupid, they are all highly educated people. But organized crime syndicates are pretty smart too. That’s why they devised the RICO laws.


  20. IMHO, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.


    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  21. Top 10 places Hawaiian governor should look for Obama’s birth
    certificate
    JANUARY 21, 2011 · 13 COMMENTS

    Hawaii’s new Democrat Governor Neil Abercrombie promised to find
    President Barack Obama’s birth certificate so that we, as a nation,
    could put to rest, once and for all, rumors that that he is not a U.S.
    citizen and therefore, fit – and “fit,” to be sure, is to be taken
    very loosely in any case – to serve as the Commander in Chief.

    Keep looking, Governor Abercrombie. It must be around there somewhere.

    But now comes the shocking – totally shocking – news that Governor has
    been unable to locate that pesky original birth certificate.

    Wherever could it be?

    There has to be a logical explanation, right?

    Well, IHateTheMedia.com to the rescue.

    We’re offering Governor Abercrombie the top ten places he should look
    for the document.

    10. It might be under the unicorn feeder, not too far from the magic
    money printing press that Ben Bernanke uses.

    9. The certificate may have been sacrificed to the volcano gods to
    ensure good luck. After two years of the Obama administration, it
    obviously didn’t work.

    8. Check under Obama’s copy of the Koran signed by Ayatollah Khomeini.
    The one that reads: “To Barry. Good luck on the whole Manchurian
    thing. Kho-money.”

    7. Perhaps it’s under a stack of promises to close Gitmo.

    6. May be tucked in the pages of well-annotated Community Organizing
    for Dummiesbook.

    5. Have you looked in George Soros’ command bunker? Check under those
    stacks of Chinese yuan and the deed to Obama’s soul.

    4. May have accidentally passed it out as a syllabus during short
    stint as Harvard lecturer.

    3. Pawned for crack in 90s.

    2. Hillary Clinton may have it tucked in her jock strap.

    1. Kenya

    – Written by Sven Waring at DotPenn.com

    http://www.ihatethemedia.com/top-ten-places-hawaiian-governor-should-look-for-obama-birth-certificate?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ihatethemedia+%28I+Hate+the+Media%29


  22. THANK YOU Lillibet for exposing carlyle!

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    Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

    **********************************

    I have NO need to fabricate what I have told you here. Choose not to believe as suits your purpose and level of understanding about what and whom the citizens are confronting in merely asking questions about Hambama. Unlike you, I have actually stepped out from the protection of the crowd and alerted authorities.

    ***********************************************************

    Well Said, Lillibet!

    And thank you for exposing the FACT that carlyle, by his own admission, is fabricating what he posts on CW, i.e., Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

  23. .helga | January 23, 2011 at 11:30 am |
    From what I watched and heard on Meet The Press this AM with Cong. Eric Cantor, majority whi(M)p, do not expect much regarding the eligibility issue. David Gregory asked him if he believes what the Birthers say about the O’s eligibility and he sort of danced around the question and said he doesn’t believe in name calling.
    _____________

    This is interesting. I’m going to try and find a link to the show. If you know of one, could you post? thanks.

  24. Notice how the swarming obots attempt to divert attention from Grand Jury Indictments of BO.

    The Grand Jury Indictment is We Patriots strongest weapon and it is BO’s Achilles Heel.

    These are a few of the charges that will bring down the BO regime.

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

    Regarding the Crimes that BO committed as a State Senator in Illinois, I would defer on the issue of which Chicago Crimes BO can still be indicted to CW and others who are more familiar with BO’s Chicago Crimes.

    Regardless, there is more than ample PROOF of BO’s Crimes in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 to indict and legally remove BO.

  25. I have no reason to protect FS, nor do I have a reason to say anything other than the fact that I happen to like this blog and Citizen Wells. Mario has said what he has to say to FS. directly. Everyone read it. He, Mario, is obviously a prominent leader in this issue and is highly respected. FS gives his opinions. Outside of name calling, which does need to go away for sure, people have every right to accept or discard his opinions. CW obviously does not want to censor his blog, and I respect him for that. Everyday, the scab is ripped off this wound and we start over again with the b.s. FS isn’t perfect, but neigher are the people who keep pushing this issue. Hopefully people are smart enough to sift through each person’s thoughts and pull the facts out that are meaningful and discard the ones that aren’t. I am certain that my own thoughts are oftentimes convoluted and I wouldn’t want somebody hounding me on a daily basis if I made a mistake in my thought process.

    What good does it do to rehash this every frigging day? It’s old.


  26. Notice how the swarming obots attempt to divert attention from Grand Jury Indictments of BO.

    IMHO, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  27. truthorfiction

    Aaron Klein in on WABC radio right now (2:00 est) talking about the BC issue and the latest events with Abacrombie.


  28. Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm |

    FS – Excellent!

    ***************************
    As to the claim that nobody reads your repetitive posts, you should know that the posts with links to my blog are numerous… the lurkers must still be hungry for your ideas because my statcounter still keeps spinning with hits from CW.

    ———————————————-
    Thank you for your kind comments.

    As you know from my first annonymous post on the Steady Drip, I was a rather reluctant patriot thrust into this constitutional debate out of a sense of Duty.

    Nonetheless, it is gratifying to learn that the obots who seek to defame me have only succeeded in making my writings on the crimes of Obama more widely known; but I am most honored by the fact that I have gained some respect from one of the Foremost Patriots of our Time, Aristotle.

  29. one yahoo link for the Cantor comments:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110123/ap_on_re_us/us_cantor_birthers
    might want to check on youtube. There was a “Meet the Press” video there for today with Eric Cantor and David Gregory.

    If link doesn’t work, go to youtube and put in Eric Cantor Meet the Press, 2011.

  30. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 1:35 pm |

    =======================

    I believe our credibility is enhanced when we take the high moral ground and stay as far as possible from engaging in Obama Derangement Syndrome. I prefer to lean toward the “harder” facts – i.e. election fraud, foreign contributions, identity theft, etc. and stay away from softer “facts”. And then our credibility is dramatically undermined when we lump in ridiculous things (i.e. BO caused the Gulf Oil Spill) with things we want people to take seriously.

    That is all. Do not read too much into my opinions. I am not trying to “get BS off the hook”. I want to increase our chances of outing him on hard provable things. There are enough of those. We don’t need to wander way out on thin ice.

  31. Truthorfiction | January 23, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Aaron Klein in on WABC radio right now (2:00 est) talking about the BC issue and the latest events with Abacrombie.
    ——————————————
    Excellent!

  32. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    |What good does it do to rehash this every frigging day? It’s old.

    ———————————————————————————
    It’s more like every 10 minutes. Give it up FS/Leo. We are all tired of it . If you have nothing new to contribute, why don’t you just read the constructive posts, or better yet, take a Sunday afternoon nap?

  33. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 1:44 pm |

    ==============================

    Bullying instead of analysis.
    Sniping instead of reasoning.


  34. Notice how the swarming obots attempt to divert attention from Grand Jury Indictments of BO.


    Lillibet exposes carlyle

    *******************************************

    Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

    **********************************

    I have NO need to fabricate what I have told you here. Choose not to believe as suits your purpose and level of understanding about what and whom the citizens are confronting in merely asking questions about Hambama. Unlike you, I have actually stepped out from the protection of the crowd and alerted authorities.

    ***********************************************************

    Well Said, Lillibet!

    And thank you for exposing the FACT that carlyle, by his own admission, is fabricating what he posts on CW, i.e., Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

  35. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 1:23 pm |

    ================================

    You seem to have a limited vocabulary of dialog. When anybody questions or analyzes anything you post, your response is almost always one of :

    1. Call said poster a nasty name.

    2. Simply repeat your entire questionable post, often multiple times.

    I have never seen the instance in which you address the criticisms with any logic, analysis, or rationality.

  36. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 1:35 pm |

    =======================

    I believe our credibility is enhanced when we take the high moral ground and stay as far as possible from engaging in Obama Derangement Syndrome. I prefer to lean toward the “harder” facts – i.e. election fraud, foreign contributions, identity theft, etc. and stay away from softer “facts”. And then our credibility is dramatically undermined when we lump in ridiculous things (i.e. BO caused the Gulf Oil Spill) with things we want people to take seriously.

    That is all. Do not read too much into my opinions. I am not trying to “get BS off the hook”. I want to increase our chances of outing him on hard provable things. There are enough of those. We don’t need to wander way out on thin ice.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    If it were proven that the COLB was altered, and I use “altered” rather than “forged” in deference to jbjd’s opinion that I buy into, that was posted on fightthesmears.com and reviewed by Annenberg Factcheck, this would not be a “soft fact”. While it may not be a crime in and of itself, I don’t know as I am not an attorney, in the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION it would be THE nail in the coffin for the beginning of the end. It would also lead to an investigation into what did the Democratic party use to vouche for Obama’s eligiblity? an altered document? would it then become a “forged” document and then punishable?

    The layers of the onion would slowly be peeled away. That is why they need to get something to get their teeth sunk into. In the mob or any crime syndicate breakup, it is always a small break that leads the investigator to uncover the conspiracy.

  37. Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm |

    FS – Excellent!

    ***************************
    As to the claim that nobody reads your repetitive posts, you should know that the posts with links to my blog are numerous… the lurkers must still be hungry for your ideas because my statcounter still keeps spinning with hits from CW.

    ———————————————-
    Thank you for your kind comments.

    As you know from my first annonymous post on the Steady Drip, I was a rather reluctant patriot thrust into this constitutional debate out of a sense of Duty.

    Nonetheless, it is gratifying to learn that the obots who seek to defame me have only succeeded in making my writings on the crimes of Obama more widely known; but I am most honored by the fact that I have gained some respect from one of the Foremost Patriots of our Time, Aristotle.


    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  38. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 2:13 pm |

    ===============================

    Did you read the part where CW asked you not to call people Obots?

  39. Thanks, kaks. Most appreciated. h

  40. Sharzie | January 23, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    |What good does it do to rehash this every frigging day? It’s old.

    ———————————————————————————
    It’s more like every 10 minutes. Give it up FS/Leo. We are all tired of it . If you have nothing new to contribute, why don’t you just read the constructive posts, or better yet, take a Sunday afternoon nap?
    ———————————————————————————————
    Sharzie, you miss my point. FS can post what he wants and people can choose to accept of discard his point of view. If they don’t like the tonality of his responses they can choose to ignore them. Mario did not agree with FS’s posts regarding his case and took the time to write a rebuttal. Everybody read it. People have the right to consider what FS said and then consider what Mario said and then make up their own minds. It does absolutely no good to pick at him, FS, on a daily basis as it spirals of of control and the accusers become worse than what they are accusing FS of doing. CW gives him the right and privelege to post here because he doesn’t want to censor opinion. I admire CW for that.

  41. Crystal | January 23, 2011 at 1:31 pm |

    =================================

    Thank you for saving me the trouble of repeating this. It needs to be posted here with the same repetitive frequency that Free Speech posts his diatribes.

    Perhaps you noticed that I asked Free Speech the other day to provide some reasoning or analysis as to why we should believe HIM rather than believe Mario. He of course refused to do that. Until that logic is presented and found to be sound, I would say that in a straight-out, stand-up, yelling-match, credibility-fest, “gunfight” between MA and LPH I would put my money 100:1 on MA.

  42. Give it up, swarming obots!

    Your attempts to divert attention from Grand Jury Indictments of BO only call more attention to BO’s Achilles Heel.

    Your “messiah” will be Legally removed.

    Patriots demand your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  43. Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  44. Free speech,

    You are so freekin speechin annoying.

    CW,

    For God’s sake, do something! This has gotten SO way out of hand. I can no longer recommend this blog to friends cause it’s a FREAK SHOW!

  45. CW…..

    I have a suggestion for your consideration.

    HOW ABOUT PUTTING A DAILY “LIMIT” ON THE NUMBER OF POSTS MADE BY AN INDIVIDUAL.

    i.e., 20 a day would be sufficient!

  46. Thank you Dr. Sewell!

    Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm |

    FS – Excellent!

    ***************************
    As to the claim that nobody reads your repetitive posts, you should know that the posts with links to my blog are numerous… the lurkers must still be hungry for your ideas because my statcounter still keeps spinning with hits from CW.

    ———————————————-
    Thank you for your kind comments.

    As you know from my first annonymous post on the Steady Drip, I was a rather reluctant patriot thrust into this constitutional debate out of a sense of Duty.

    Nonetheless, it is gratifying to learn that the obots who seek to defame me have only succeeded in making my writings on the crimes of Obama more widely known; but I am most honored by the fact that I have gained some respect from one of the Foremost Patriots of our Time, Aristotle.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  47. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    Crystal | January 23, 2011 at 1:31 pm |

    =================================

    Thank you for saving me the trouble of repeating this. It needs to be posted here with the same repetitive frequency that Free Speech posts his diatribes.

    Perhaps you noticed that I asked Free Speech the other day to provide some reasoning or analysis as to why we should believe HIM rather than believe Mario. He of course refused to do that. Until that logic is presented and found to be sound, I would say that in a straight-out, stand-up, yelling-match, credibility-fest, “gunfight” between MA and LPH I would put my money 100:1 on MA.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    It is up to FS to choose if he wants to issue a rebuttal to Mario’s rebuttal. Why are you so focused on what FS does and says? He is just one person out of tens of millions who just want to see some justice done. It’s become your life’s mission and you need to rid yourself of the dementia.

  48. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 2:22 pm |

    =============================

    No, you miss the point. It is not about opinions. It is about two major other things:

    1. FS never engages in analysis or dialog, just name calling and list posting.

    2. FS does not reason, he only proclaims. The recent discussion with Mario is a good example. FS made “accusations”, little if any explanation, just “mario is wrong”. Mario wrote two lengthy rebuttals that EXPLAINED his reasoning. FS only retort was “you are still wrong”.

    It is those attitudes and processes which are decried. FS is entitled to whatever OPINION he wants. But nobody is entitled to their own facts, or entitled to bully other posters.

    We – people who try to “contain” FS – are on the high moral ground here. And Mario is absolutely right. The behavior of FS is hurting our cause, not helping. Furthermore, it seriously calls into question the motives and purposes of FS.

  49. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 2:22 pm |

    =============================

    No, you miss the point. It is not about opinions. It is about two major other things:

    1. FS never engages in analysis or dialog, just name calling and list posting.

    2. FS does not reason, he only proclaims. The recent discussion with Mario is a good example. FS made “accusations”, little if any explanation, just “mario is wrong”. Mario wrote two lengthy rebuttals that EXPLAINED his reasoning. FS only retort was “you are still wrong”.

    It is those attitudes and processes which are decried. FS is entitled to whatever OPINION he wants. But nobody is entitled to their own facts, or entitled to bully other posters.

    We – people who try to “contain” FS – are on the high moral ground here. And Mario is absolutely right. The behavior of FS is hurting our cause, not helping. Furthermore, it seriously calls into question the motives and purposes of FS.
    ——————————————————————————————-
    au contraire, people ARE entitled to their own facts. It is up to you to accept or decline them and then rebut them if necessary. If you choose the method of rebuttal, you are not “owed” a counterpoint just because you disagree. Rational people reading the blog can see where the truth lays.

  50. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 2:28 pm |

    ===================================

    Because I believe that the things FS says and does are harmful and hurtful. And that they damage “the good cause”.

    I can ask you an extremely relevant and analogous question. Why are you so focused on Obama. He has a right to do whatever he wants. You are demented in bashing him? See – not so bright, uh?

    Your approach to FS also reminds me of Neville Chamberlain. I am Winston Churchill, I am not Neville Chamberlain. That should be enough explanation for what I do.

    Yes – at times, FS engages in evil behavior. Calling people names, misquoting people, and dissemination of known false and discredited information, and publishing and republishing rantings and railings from “sensationalist” web sites, is evil and damaging.

    This is WAY BEYOND “opinions”.

  51. hapnHal | January 23, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    CW…..

    I have a suggestion for your consideration.

    HOW ABOUT PUTTING A DAILY “LIMIT” ON THE NUMBER OF POSTS MADE BY AN INDIVIDUAL.

    i.e., 20 a day would be sufficient!
    ——————————————————————————————-
    That’s good enough for me Hal :).. I am almost up to my limit for the day and I want to be able to do some end of the day analysis.

    TIME FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!!!



  52. Paxson | January 23, 2011
    to
    carlyle
    ——————————————————————————————–
    Why are you so focused on what FS does and says? He is just one person out of tens of millions who just want to see some justice done.

    ————————————————————
    The answer to your question, paxson, is obvious to all but the swarming obots.

    carlyle is a Flag Flag BO obot who only posts to divert from intelligent discussion on CW.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/exposing-obamas-psyops-agents-and.html

  53. Trust, but Don’t Verify: Republican Eric Cantor; Obama’s a Citizen; Obama’s citizenship should not play a role in discussion of policy matters…”
    ==========
    From AP:

    “Cantor: I believe Obama is a US citizen”

    “WASHINGTON – The new Republican House majority leader says he doesn’t think questions about President Barack Obama’s citizenship should play a role in the discussion of policy matters.

    Two years into the Obama administration, so-called birthers continue to argue that Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and that he hasn’t proved he’s constitutionally qualified to be president. Birth records in Hawaii haven’t dissuaded them.

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says he believes Obama is a citizen and that most Americans are beyond that question.

    “I don’t think it’s an issue that we need to address at all. . It is not an issue that even needs to be on the policy-making table right now whatsoever,” he said.”

    http://tinyurl.com/63vnqwn
    ==========
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/trust-but-dont-verify-republican-eric.html

  54. Carlyle said”
    “Your approach to FS also reminds me of Neville Chamberlain”

    For God’s sake Carlyle, I just want some peace and quiet. I have a 6 year old and 3 year old and they are able to put their differences aside at least a few days out of the week. Now I am really off to watch some football…

  55. GORDO | January 23, 2011 at 2:36 pm |

    Gordo, I have come to believe that they are purposely avoiding the term “Natural Born Citizen” for future use. They can go back to their soundbites and say…I never said he was Natural Born, just that (according to the State of Hawaii) he APPEARS to be a “citizen”.

  56. You might as well Give it up and go watch GREEN BAY kick the butts of messiah’s lousy team, swarming obots!

    Your attempts to divert attention from Grand Jury Indictments of BO only call more attention to BO’s Achilles Heel.

    Your “messiah” will be Legally removed.

    Patriots demand your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  57. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 2:28 pm |

    It is up to FS to choose if he wants to issue a rebuttal to Mario’s rebuttal.

    ========================

    That also seems wrong. It seems like saying that it is up to Obama whether or not he provides his bona fides.

    Nobody gets to call Mario names and trash Mario without the chops to do so. I simply am stating for the record – in case any of you have any doubt left – or for newbies – that until or unless FS provides bona fides that exceed Marios, he FS should be disregarded. That seems fair.

    Why do you seem to have a difficult time grasping the nature of this situation?

    PS – until I get to the point that I issue a rebuttal to each and every thing said by FS, and repeat and repost with the same frequency, I take GREAT ISSUE with being compared with FS in any way – or that my naysaying has gotten out of hand. I don’t have that much time. But I try to undo damage a little at a time, as I can.

    Please consider joining the good fight.

  58. CW…

    Free Speech has now exceeded his 20 daily posts… I count twenty two!

    CW.

    If this idea does not appeal to you, I will suggest a plan “B”

  59. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 2:39 pm |

    swarming obots!

    Your “messiah”

    =====================================

    I find that to be offensive beyond the pale.
    I find that to be in direct disobedience to CW.
    I find that to be bullying instead of reasoning.
    If I owned a blog with such repeated behavior
    and a poster that repeatedly spit in my face,
    that poster would be banned for eternity.

    This is NOT about differences of opinion.
    This is NOT about freedom of speech.
    This is about improper and unacceptable behavior.

  60. Prominent Eligibility Attorneys Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I greatly admire Orly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  61. Carlyle,
    I for one (and I’m sure just one of many), in NO WAY compare you with FS. You provide sane and rational food for thought. I have learned much from you. On the other hand, I find FS so FREEKIN SPEECHIN ANNOYING that I am tempted to curse. I’m sure he would make an angel swear. I wish he would go watch the football game and leave us to reasoned dialogue. Well, I can dream can’t I? Maybe it will go into overtime.

  62. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 2:32 pm |

    =================================

    Serious question for you:

    What you rather have the rantings and railing of LPH here or would you rather have the thoughts and opinions of the dozens of posters that he has single-handedly driven away?

    For me it is no contest.

    As a blog owner this might be a difficult question if it were REALLY simply about freedom of speech. But when it is not about freedom of speech (nobody has left because of that), but about total out-of-control-jerk behavior – the solution is simple and obvious.

    And yes, I like CW’s writings on this blog. Yes I admire CW’s embrace of freedom of speech. But no, I do not appreciate CW letting playground bullying go unabated. It is not right. And to me seems indefensible.

  63. Not enough time in the day to waste by reading the same posts over and over and over again. And all the back and forth name calling! It WAS fun. But now, just a nuisance. Adios muchachos ….Vaya Con Dios

  64. Swarming obot, you might as well Give it up and go watch GREEN BAY kick the butts of your messiah’s lousy team!

    Your attempts to divert attention from Grand Jury Indictments of BO only call more attention to BO’s Achilles Heel.

    Your “messiah” will be Legally removed.

    Patriots demand your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  65. Carlyle said”
    “Nobody gets to call Mario names and trash Mario without the chops to do so. I simply am stating for the record – in case any of you have any doubt left – or for newbies – that until or unless FS provides bona fides that exceed Marios, he FS should be disregarded. That seems fair”

    You did state your opposition to FS’s comments at the time that Mario rebutted FS. What else are you waiting for or desire? Everybody read it and came away with their own opinions on what transpired along with Mario’s take on FS’s opinions of his case. What do you want CW to do? It seems to me that this particular issue went “full circle” and is over with for now unless FS chooses to answer Mario’s critique. Until then, let it go.

  66. Green Bay ripping bo’s lousy team!

  67. “THERE IS A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  68. I don’t waste my time debating on MOOT already DISMISSED cases, paxon.

  69. Green Bay SCORES!

  70. I will NOT WASTE my time debating on mario’s MOOT already DISMISSED cases, paxon.

  71. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
    I don’t waste my time debating on MOOT already DISMISSED cases, paxon.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    That is your prerogative. However, you did throw your “two cents” in after the fact and drew the attention of Mario to rebut your analysis. I am in agreement that you don’t owe him or anybody else anything. Your opinions, and everybody elses for that matter, are up to the reader to accept or decline. If a person makes enough comments that are out of bounds then they lose credibility. That is what I am trying to tell Carlyle. That being said, the name calling is a bit out of bounds. Also, I am not saying that out of bounds comments should not be rebutted, but say it once or twice and don’t expect a rebuttal from the original person who gave their opinion (you aren’t owed anything). The people over time can sort out the b.s.

  72. Okay, I am going to interject my OWN two cents into the convo.
    I am MUCH more a reader than a poster on the blog..but, I need to appeal to Free Speech here. I too miss all the wonderful posters we used to have on this blog.

    Just ONE comment, FS, can you SERIOUSLY say that you do NOT understand how IRRITATING it is to have to keep scrolling through the Same post from you UMPTEEN times a day??

    Everytime someone makes a comment, you turn it around….it’s like oh, BTW……CGJ’s …..and then there we go with the SAME long posts over and over and over again. This really isn’t tolerated in ANY other blogs, or comment areas of sites that I have seen…it’s called scrolling, and it’s a TOS violation.

    Don’t get me wrong!! I think you should be given the chance to say what you want to say..but how about limiting yourself to the same posts only ONCE per comment page? It would be MUCH less irritating!! And people would me more likely to take you seriously.

    To tell you the honest truth…right NOW..with your behavior, scrolling and calling anyone who mentions it Obots and going on the personal attack.
    I seriously worry about your stress level and want to ask if you’ve ever considered “seeing someone” about it.


  73. I will NOT WASTE my time debating mario’s MOOT already DISMISSED sole, singular case, paxon.

    mario’s case is DONE, FINISHED, DIMISSED & REJECTED by SCOTUS.

    There is NOTHING to be gained by discussing mario’s MOOT already DISMISSED sole, singular case, paxon, other than to point out mario’s MISTAKES which I have already done.

    So would you, paxon, and your fellow blogger, carlyle, PLEASE STOP ASKING me about mario’s MOOT already DISMISSED sole, singular case, paxon?

  74. hester busted on 15. bo’s team false start. forte stuffed on 1st. forte stuffed again on 2nd. cutler sacked! 3 and out again for bo boys.

  75. Is FS having a meltdown?

  76. FS. I am not sitting on the edge of my seat to hear your rebuttal. I said what I had seen was enough.

  77. Green Bay another 21 yard pass!

  78. bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Contact your congressman, from the Post&Email.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/23/first-report-on-contact-your-congressmen-campaign/

    ——————————-

    Thanks Bob !

  79. bo boys start on 1 yd line. forte stuffed on 1st.

  80. Now, paxson, would you care to discuss cases that are NOT MOOT and still viable, paxson?

    Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  81. boy boys have to punt from their endzone after going 3 and out again.

  82. This is from Orly Taitz site.

    Update on state eligibility bills

    Posted on | January 22, 2011 | 8 Comments

    1. TX-filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed. Please visit Tea Party supported governor of Chris Perry, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    2 GA- filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed. please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of GA Nathan Deal, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    3. Mo- filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed.

    4.MT- filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed.

    5 PA announced planned filing. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed.

    6. AZ announced planned filing. AZ past eeligibility bill in the stare Assembly last year and was 2 votes short in the state senate. There are more Republicans in the state assembly and senate and Repub governor. Eeligibility bill is expected to pass both houses and be signed by the Governor

    7. OK- past eligibility bill in the state Assembly last year, was 1 vote short in the state Senate. There are more Republicans in OK this year, eligibility bill is expected to pass both houses. Please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of OK Mary Falin, urge her to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    8. TN- Four TN state representatives signed up as my clients in CA eligibility law suit: Eric Swafford, Glen Cassada, Stacy Campfield, Frank Nicely. Please, visit them and urge them to file the proposed bill ASAP

    9. NH- 2 NH state representatives Larry Rappaport and Timothy Commerford signed up as my clients in CA eligibility law suit. Please, visit their offices with the draft of the proposed bill, urge them to submit ASAP.

    10. SD pleasevisit state reresentative Manny Steele, urge him to join state representatives of 10 other states and file the proposed eligibility bill

    11. CA please, visit the tea party supported state representative Tim Donnelly (former military) urge him to join other states in submitting the eligibility bill

    12. ME- please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of ME Paul LePage, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    13 NM- please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of NM Suzanna Martinez, urge her to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    14. SC please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of SC Nikky Haily , urge her to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    15. VA please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor ofVA Bob MacDonald, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    16 NJ- please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of NJ Chris Christie, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    17. IA please visit Republican governor Terry Branstad, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)- Keep in mind, Branstad is a U.S. army vet, please, share with himthe story of Terry Lakin.

    We need eligibility bills filed in each and every state of the union, even in blue states, as it shows the regime, that we are still the nation of law and the Constitution, that the Constitution matters and state Representatives and senators are ready to fight for the rule of law. During the last election there were some 700 more Republican state assemblyman elected all over the country, as the nation is not willing to tolerate this assault on our rights and our Constitution any further. Please, call me at 949-683-5411, if you are able to lobby state representative

  83. GORDO | January 23, 2011 at 2:36 pm |

    Trust, but Don’t Verify: Republican Eric Cantor; Obama’s a Citizen; Obama’s citizenship should not play a role in discussion of policy matters…”
    _____________________________________________

    I saw the interview on Meet The Depressed and was very disappointed in Cantor’s response to Gregory. It is really getting depressing.

  84. Green Bay SCORES AGAIN! 14 to O for zeros team!

  85. PS – It looks looks like the USURPER wont be going to the SB. GB 14 to O. But you will be able to see him on FOX just before SB. RATINGS

  86. Zero jinxed my Bears when he said he would go to the Super Bowl if the Bears win.

  87. Bob Strauss – thank you for the excellent update about the state legislatures that are targeting the verification of POTUS eligibility. This is something we can all support.

  88. ms.helga | January 23, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
    PS – It looks looks like the USURPER wont be going to the SB. GB 14 to O. But you will be able to see him on FOX just before SB. RATINGS

    ————————————–
    No doubt that the people of Dallas will be relieved if the perverse product of white trash does not stink up Dallas.

  89. bo boys 3 and out again.

  90. bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    Zero jinxed my Bears when he said he would go to the Super Bowl if the Bears win.

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    Yep! Nobody but the obots want the perverse product of white trash stinking up Dallas for the SB.

  91. bob strauss @ 3:48 pm |
    17/50 a start, 50/50 should be the end result. Glad Orly did an update and thank you for posting.

  92. Michele,

    Sorry. I have always liked the Bears but I can not be for bo’s team.

  93. Bob,

    Thank you for posting the updates on the state eligibility bills. I am hopeful that this will force Mr. Soetero to withdraw as a candidate for 2012. I no longer visit Orly Taitz site because it was always so infiltrated with computer viruses. I appreciate the information you have provided.
    It is quite disappointing and frustrating to me to hear Issa, Cantor, McCain, etc etc defend Mr. Soetero . We have volumes of information raising doubts or as proof and it is absolutly dumbfounding to me to see his poll ratings go up. We must continue to pray for our country. HE will be our Savior.

  94. Free Speech @ 4:11 pm |
    I hope that I don’t shock you or Bob, but since I’m from Chicago NBC yet, now former Dem-my girlfriends and I were in a bar one time not knowing the Bears were there-the hugest people people you ever saw-they looked at us like raw meat-very scary people-I could never look at football players again. No reason for arrogance that I could see and we were fast runners.

  95. cutler fumbles!

  96. Crystal | January 23, 2011 at 4:00 pm |

    Bob Strauss – thank you for the excellent update about the state legislatures that are targeting the verification of POTUS eligibility. This is something we can all support.
    ***************************
    Crystal, It will get interesting if Obama is denied a spot on the ballot due to lack of eligibility in the states that pass eligibility laws. I wonder what Obama will do then?

    Elections have consequences, especially at the State level where you can pass laws to rid yourself from the influence of a usurper.

  97. Michelle | January 23, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
    Free Speech @ 4:11 pm |
    I hope that I don’t shock you or Bob, but since I’m from Chicago NBC yet, now former Dem-my girlfriends and I were in a bar one time not knowing the Bears were there-the hugest people people you ever saw-they looked at us like raw meat-very scary people-I could never look at football players again. No reason for arrogance that I could see and we were fast runners.

    ———————————
    LOL!

    Guess that is why they call the Bears, the Monsters of the Midway.

  98. This from FS:

    “No doubt that the people of Dallas will be relieved if the perverse product of white trash does not stink up Dallas.”

    CW, if this kind of crap doesn’t deserve some kind of restriction/moderation, I don’t know what does. If you don’t step in, FS will completely discredit your post. That is it for me, unless things change here. It’s never been (for me anyway), about class-ism or race.

  99. cutler intercepted!

  100. CW

    FREE SPEECH IS TRYING TO TAKE THIS SITE DOWN!!!!

    PLEASE BAN HIM!!!!

    THE SITE IS TOTALLY UNUSABLE WITH HIM (FREE SPEECH)!!!

  101. bob strauss @4:18 pm |
    Crystal @ 4:00 pm |
    Yes, but Bob what if the DNC, etc. tries to collect “donations” I kept my Democrat registration and I have already been solicited for bucks? the lady did tell me many of the Dems told here they are now Tea Party and will not contribute.
    Disapprove Presidential Approval Index rating of -8 Today Sunday

  102. Chinese pianist,LANG,LANG PLAYED ANTI AMERICAN PROPAGANDA SONG AT STATE DINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!www.commieblaster.com
    Trump says you do not have dinner with your enemies!!!!
    How many calories were in their lavish dinner?? Michelle thinks she is hi-society!! all are discusting
    How much did this cost taxpayers??????????? Obama should have footed the bill

    Latest commie News http://www.commieblaster.com

  103. Truth Now | January 23, 2011 at 4:28 pm |
    Chinese pianist,LANG,LANG PLAYED ANTI AMERICAN PROPAGANDA SONG AT STATE DINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!www.commieblaster.com
    Trump says you do not have dinner with your enemies!!!!
    How many calories were in their lavish dinner?? Michelle thinks she is hi-society!! all are discusting
    How much did this cost taxpayers??????????? Obama should have footed the bill

    Latest commie News http://www.commieblaster.com

    ————————–
    The Chi-commies aren’t bo’s enemies. The perverse product of white trash is a commie just like Hu.

  104. Michelle, when I lived in the Chicago area back in the seventies, our golf foursome followed a group that had retired linebacker Bill George in it. I stood next to him several times, and was amazed at how huge he was compared to me. I think he was 6′ 8″ tall and probably weighed 300 +lbs.

  105. Re: multiple same posts ….. it is the norm on most blogs to automatically notify a poster if he is making a duplicate post. It has nothing to do with limiting free speech since the person has been permitted to have stated what he has desired to make a personal point of. And normally there are guidelines stated for all to see that personal attacks or derision are not allowed and such attempts are forewarned. That takes a certain courage and responsibility for community sake. Even smaller irritations like making comments in all caps or bolds are often noted as unnecessary annoyances by the equal standing posters.

    In the link on Drudge today re: “cyber overload” there is the question of “netiquette” that needs to be established as long as this is taking the place of general public place discourse. Since there appears to be a very limited number of regular posters here (even with the number of off and on posters included) any multiple postings equals “preaching to the choir” if it isn’t done for some other personal reason. If blogs are to substitute for a normal exchange between strangers then they ought to adhere to what is expected when one owns his/her personal remarks “in person” in any public setting with time established etiquette. In those unhidden places of discourse one must deal with certain expected and normal consequences from the words and intentions expressed. Hiding out and lobbing grenades at others for the fun of it is not a declared and legitimate war!! This only tempts good people attempting to exhibit good behavior to become “terrorists” of similar tactics. This isn’t the courtroom after all, where such tactics seem to be right at home these days with equal disdain … even noted by posters here!! Bad habits can harden not only hearts but what was once a flexible openness to all.

    But then again, perhaps manners, along with the sacred (and sometimes are an expression of same), simply just don’t exist any longer in this “modern” generation. But hopefully the flame of desire for such has not completely been extinguished by the few allowable undisciplined. The Truth is normally larger than any one individual’s limited experiences of only a portion of it.

  106. Lets think about this nonsense. I think he is a Citizen, Cantor replies.
    Is it no person except a citzen, or a natural born citzen at the time of the adoption…
    It is no person except a natural born citzen, or a citizen of the U.S. at the time…
    It is beyond time to recall, then Prosecute every single one of them.

  107. bo boys 3 and out again!

  108. Green Bay 22 yd completion!

  109. Another 20+ yd completion for GB!

  110. ‘Free Screeh’ reminds me of why cows have tails……..just an observer….

  111. bo’s team 3 and out again!

  112. Margie | January 23, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
    Lets think about this nonsense. I think he is a Citizen, Cantor replies.

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    How can anyone think bo, the perverse product of white trash, is a citizen. There is simply not enough info to conclude that bo is any kind of US citizen and plenty of evidence that he is not a citizen.

  113. So, we see SueQ makes a comment that she if offended by a certain phrase..and what does FS do?…makes it a point to interject it into almost every post SINCE. WHO is the one following the Saul Alinsky tactics on this blog? WHO is acting more like an Obot instigator? just sayin’

  114. Excuse me while I polish my typo queen crown

  115. bob strauss…

    re: Orly’s status on State eligibility bills.

    I plan to lobby our newly elected state congressman and see if he is willing to carry the eligibility ball forward. I know this is going to be a very heavy ball, as I live in the golden (bankrupt) state of CA. Good news though, CA unemployment ticks up to 12.5% from 12.4%. Think were being strangled by too many government regulations and jobs going to China.

    Q. How many states will need to be on board to stop Barry?

  116. Citizen. But not a natural-born citizen.

  117. Sorry, but my above comment is out of order. I was commenting on the fact that Cantor said he was a citizen.

  118. Pick 6 for Green Bay! GB 21 to 7 for zero’s team.

  119. hapnHal | January 23, 2011 at 5:46 pm |

    bob strauss…

    re: Orly’s status on State eligibility bills.

    I plan to lobby our newly elected state congressman and see if he is willing to carry the eligibility ball forward. I know this is going to be a very heavy ball, as I live in the golden (bankrupt) state of CA. Good news though, CA unemployment ticks up to 12.5% from 12.4%. Think were being strangled by too many government regulations and jobs going to China.

    Q. How many states will need to be on board to stop Barry?
    ******************************************
    If Obama is denied a spot on the ballot in just one state the repercussions will snowball into a full blown investigation of Obama, and it will occur during the campaign well ahead of election day. My hope.

  120. bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 5:55 pm |

    If Obama is denied a spot on the ballot in just one state the repercussions will snowball into a full blown investigation of Obama, and it will occur during the campaign well ahead of election day. My hope.
    ————————-
    BO has already released a forged COLB. There is no doubt that he will release the forged BC that he has had expert forgers working on for the past 2 years in order to stay on the ballot.

    http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-birth-certificate-forgery.html

    Obama Birth Certificate Forgery

    In an effort to resolve this issue once and for all, the Obama Administration has put together a team tasked with producing a believable Hawaii Birth Certificate Forgery
    Efforts to compel President Barack Obama to produce a valid birth certificate for the purpose of proving he is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States continue. Team Obama, however, has continually tried to dismiss the efforts as “garbage.” Barack Obama, however, is finding it more difficult to dismiss the question, and would like to be done with it once and for all. He was hoping the issue would simply die and go away, but the American People have refused to allow that to happen.

  121. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 3:24 pm |

    … There is NOTHING to be gained by discussing mario’s MOOT … other than to point out mario’s MISTAKES …

    =====================================

    There it is again. You will NOT let things go. You keep chewing on them. Grinding and grinding over and over. I agree with Mario 100:1 over you. No, you do not have to describe your bona fides. But if you want us to believe you, then yes you do. Your choice. Tell me why I should believe you over Mario. Otherwise 100:1. PS – the fact that it was dismissed by SCOTUS is NOT relevant. We all know THEY are part of the problem.

  122. NOT interested in discussing mario’s MOOT MISTAKES.

    Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  123. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 3:43 pm |

    Now, paxson, would you care to discuss cases that are NOT MOOT and still viable, paxson?

    Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    ==============================

    I am not Paxson, but I can say “yes, please”. It is ALWAYS better to hear positive analysis rather than person-bashing.

    Please remind us where these cases are in the process, what happens next, when? What do you like about them? What parts of them might be “iffy”? etc. Now, THAT, would be helpful.

    I have commented before on the apparent dual personality of your posts. So we know you can do it. Let’s have more of THIS. If you confined yourself to this kind of helpful dialog, I would never complain about you or your posts – whether I agree with you or not.

    That is why I claim the high moral ground. Will you join me on this higher ground? How ’bout right here, right now, a solemn pledge. No more crap!

  124. bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm |

    This is from Orly Taitz site.

    Update on state eligibility bills

    ================================

    This is really good news, isn’t it? Won’t this solve the problem? Anybody thinks it won’t? Why? Something useful to discuss and debate.

  125. Still not interested in discussing mario’s MOOT mistakes.

    Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  126. Turn out the Lights bo’s boys are DONE!

  127. GBAmerica | January 23, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
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    Of much greater concern is bo’s attempted muslim takeover of America.

  128. SueQ | January 23, 2011 at 4:21 pm |

    ===================================

    This is another good example of bringing this blog down to the gutter. Deciding to root for the Bears or not based on whether Zero is rooting for them, seems an awful lot like Obama Derangement Syndrome to me. How do we get to successfully disparage BDS when prominent members of our community have ODS. It adds fuel to the fire that we are not serious about eligibility issues, but that this is just a handle to satisfy our ODS. Which means that we don’t deserve to be satisfied any more than people with BDS deserved to be satisfied.

    This is why what “we” say here has such significance. It is all well and good for some of the regulars here to say “oh sure, we know what is what so it does not matter what any numbnuts might say”. But it matters greatly to our credibility and to our ability to sway the as yet unswayed, and other outsiders and questioners.

    A critical consideration remains: Are any of the disruptive ones here poisoning the waters out of ignorance, or are they under orders to spread disinformation? We need to take this very seriously. To me this is not a game. This is life and death. And I really REALLY do not appreciate anyone running roughshod over our good endeavors here.

    There is more than one “problem” person. But some only come here irregularly or infrequently. The problem is much magnified by frequency of posts.

    Thank you for trying to help.

  129. Linda Starr | January 23, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
    GREAT POST (read to the end for the questions):

    http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/23/hawaii-ground-report-could-hawaiian-governor-neil-abercrombie-not-be-as-incompetent-and-foolish-as-he-appears-but-orchestrating-a-deliberate-birth-certificate-recovery-dead-end-to-cover-his-own-pap/
    ——————————————————————————————-
    Linda, as I said earlier, I am a big fan of the Hillbuzz fellas. However, their blog post is filled with quite a few errors. People over here at CW and elsewhere have been mulling over those very plausible theories for over two years now. So nothing really new to see except that Lucianne.com picked it up. They also need to familiarize themselves with the adoption dates, Obama’s time Indonesia, mother’s passport info etc.

    So while I am grateful to them for all that they do, and I’m hopeful that it will introduce more investigators to the scene, this analysis is “old hat” and riddled with errors.

  130. Paxson | January 23, 2011

    The best thing that Hillbuzz has done as out BO as a Homosexual Lifetime Member of a Gay Bath House in Chicago. It is good to know that there are Patriotic Members of the Gay Community. BO’s Homosexual Hypocrisy must be repulsive to Patriotic Gays.

  131. SueQ | January 23, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    Is FS having a meltdown?
    ************************
    I think by now it is possible that it has reached the “clarified butter” stage. 😦

    After reading here today and days and days before, I see that there are some who may read but don’t post often enough to draw “fire” from the poster we are discussing. They really don’t have sufficient experience with him to fully “get it.” They have never been called obots, liars, BS’ers, etc., because it so happens they most likely have never said anything that he disagrees with.

    Then there are others who are what I would call “enablers”. They pop in from time to time and fall into the “appeaser” category. They even make flattering remarks and compliment the name-caller. It seems to be a virtue to come to his defense. Why? Is it that they want to be the nice guy, or is it that they want to get on his good side? If so, is that speech that is really free? Or could we call that a form of coercing?

    No one is suggesting that a person be banned because he has stated his opinions. The problem is that if another poster’s opinions don’t agree with his, watch out. Be prepared to take heavy fire and nasty, damaging flack.

    Friends, that condition should not exist perpetually as seems to be the case.

  132. Cabby – AZ | January 23, 2011 at 6:39 pm |

    Then there are others who are what I would call “enablers”. They pop in from time to time and fall into the “appeaser” category. They even make flattering remarks and compliment the name-caller. It seems to be a virtue to come to his defense. Why? Is it that they want to be the nice guy, or is it that they want to get on his good side? If so, is that speech that is really free? Or could we call that a form of coercing?
    ———————————————————————————————
    Carlyle, I can only assume that you are referring to me (amongst others I suppose). That being said, you really aren’t reading the words that I am writing are you? Go back, read and think about what I have said. My only objective is to keep the thoughts moving forward on this blog, not this bogus sidetracking quagmire that you and others have embroiled yourselves.

  133. Rep. Eric Cantor: Obama is a U.S. Citizen; Won’t Denounce “Birthers”… 1/23/2011

  134. Keyes: “BO is a Radical Communist.”

    MO: ”BO Home Country Kenya”

    “BO KGB”

    BO Grandma: “BO born in Kenya”

  135. ObamaRelease YourRecords | January 23, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    Rep. Eric Cantor: Obama is a U.S. Citizen; Won’t Denounce “Birthers”… 1/23/2011

    ——————————————–
    Gregory just another disgusting obot.

  136. ck out this http://www.commieblaster.com KGB TIES ???

    RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE COMMIES IN CONGRESS 70 TO 80 CK ARTICLE

  137. Truth Now | January 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm | ck out this http://www.commieblaster.com KGB TIES ???

    RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE COMMIES IN CONGRESS 70 TO 80 CK ARTICLE

    ——————–
    Excellent Site!

    We need to get this info out to the Conservatives in Congress.

  138. NaturalBorn2011

    Like the Factor does, may I propose a word for the day?
    GUTTERSNIPE

  139. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    Whoops, Paxson! A case of mistaken identity! You attributed my comment to Carlyle, who already has his hands full.

    Frankly and honestly, I did NOT have you in mind, but rather some of the more obscure contributors. I know you have been posting here off and on longer than I have, and I don’t remember anything arising from your comments other than you are trying very hard to be a peacemaker and get rid of the problem. You are young apparently with a growing family and may be (I said, MAY BE) a little naive as to what it is going to take to change things here.

    Don’t you think it is a little bizarre that as soon as someone refers to a negative statement made by FS, he makes a very special point of repeatedly using it over and over – sort of in-your-face, rebellious type of response?
    Then how are your peacemaking efforts ever going to avail under those circumstances?

    Nice try, Paxson You know I have already told you at another time that I have respect for your thoughts. It seems that you are missing the mark on this one; however, we’ll wait and see!? Hope for the best?

  140. RE: SueK | January 23, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
    Damn! I hate to see you go – I was so happy to have you back for whatever time you could tolerate the BS we put up with. I truly understand; sometimes I end up scrolling thru a third of the posts to get away from the repetitive crap. Does get a bit tiring, not to mention irritating… Takes the focus from anything relevant. Please let me, and any of the ones who care here, know where You and the excellent others are posting. So many are gone. Damn.

  141. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm |

    ObamaRelease YourRecords | January 23, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    Rep. Eric Cantor: Obama is a U.S. Citizen; Won’t Denounce “Birthers”… 1/23/2011

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    Gregory just another disgusting obot.
    **********************
    Yes, Gregory was just trying to put words into Cantors mouth, sickening.

  142. bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 7:19 pm | Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm |

    ObamaRelease YourRecords | January 23, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    Rep. Eric Cantor: Obama is a U.S. Citizen; Won’t Denounce “Birthers”… 1/23/2011

    ——————————————–
    Gregory just another disgusting obot.
    **********************
    Yes, Gregory was just trying to put words into Cantors mouth, sickening.

    ———–

    Yes, and Gregory used every bo/alinsky/obot technique in the book. I was not at all impressed with Canto’s handling of gregory’s BS.

  143. ANTI-AMERICAN, COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA SONG BY CHINESE PIANIST AT STATE DINNER http://WWW.COMMIEBLASTER.COM

    ANYONE REPORT ON THIS ?????????????

  144. Cabby – AZ | January 23, 2011 at 7:18 pm |

    You are right Cabby, I thought that was Carlyle. He told me earlier today that I was like Neville Chamberlin. Also, I could never get upset at you Cabby. I really try to keep my feelings about other individuals out of my commentary here, and I do have strong opinions. But I have always liked you and try to have great reverence for my elders, although some of the older generation who are on the left really bug me.

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    ALL LEADERS OF TEA PARTYS
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    ———————-
    I agree.

  147. Cantor didn’t need any help, his true colors came shining through with or without anyone’s help. Call my conservative congressman? Are you *(&*&(*)(* *^*&^ ^%ing kidding me!!!! They are all bought and paid for. While I have your attention… what were the names of those Muslim bankers, congressman, senators, and judges taking over our country? Oh, and the ones who own our media from Hollywood to cable news? I forget, please remind us.

  148. SeriouslySickOfObama

    If Cw, with his own hands painted a beautiful picture and allowed you to enter his home and view his work, would you touch it, break it’s glass container, write words on it or would you admire it, respect the work and time he put into painting? This is same question as to his work and his writing. If you do not like the comments and you refuse to ignore the comments that you do not like, look at the top of the blog and see the X and click on it and LEAVE! I have just witnessed a group think of people admitting to emailing each other back and forth about certain members and you have planned your attack and have thrown CW in the middle demanding he remove certain bloggers. Then I seen a comment making a personal attack reference to someone’s wife and children, suggesting someone needed medication and in the same post ask for civil behavior. That is extremely hypocritical and that post did not get put in moderation, blocked or banned. You can not pick and chose the content of this blog. CW is not obligated to answer to anyone on this blog, he OWNS. I promise you, if you leave, others will come and take your place. I find that some of you are applying pressure and making unreasonable demands and dragging other faithful CW bloggers into it with you to feed the fire. What I suggest to anyone that does not want to live with CW’s decision to allow all bloggers to voice their opinions respectfully, then by all means, leave!! I will not allow anyone to put demands on CW when it is his work you are discrediting with your verbal attacks to a chosen few with your hit and run shots. There are many blogs you can go to and act like childish children, go seek one and don’t go away mad, just go away! CW deserves so much more from every one of you than you are giving him. Do you not realize all these posts cost CW money? Every time you comment it requires more bandwidth, CW PAYS FOR IT so you can have FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!

    IT IS DISRESPECTFUL and DISGUSTING what is going on and is a discredit to this man’s work and dedication to America. I am so ashamed of most of you! I am honestly embarrassed for most of you! Please stop threatening to leave and just leave if you can’t allow CW the common decency to allow everyone the same VOICE of their own opinions, then go somewhere where you might find yourself in moderation and banned for this CHILDISH BEHAVIOR!!! CW has another option, he can post his writings and not allow comments, what will you do then?

  149. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 7:23 pm |

    bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 7:19 pm | Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm |

    ObamaRelease YourRecords | January 23, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    Rep. Eric Cantor: Obama is a U.S. Citizen; Won’t Denounce “Birthers”… 1/23/2011

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    Gregory just another disgusting obot.
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    Yes, Gregory was just trying to put words into Cantors mouth, sickening.

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    Yes, and Gregory used every bo/alinsky/obot technique in the book. I was not at all impressed with Canto’s handling of gregory’s BS.
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    I thought Cantor did a good job of not agreeing to Gregorys effort to box him in to an answer. Gregory was getting rabid, the White House must be in trouble the way they are going after the eligibility issue. Desperation?

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  151. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE –NOBAMA IN 2012

    WE CAN DO THIS. YES WE CAN. WE MUST

    I had fantasy hopes The Dems would have removed Barry from office by now for diminishing the Democratic party and being so embarrassingly incompetent. Now it looks LIKE Barry is going to waste another BILLION DOLLARS AND PUT AMERICANS INTO ANOTHER DEVASTING TRAUMATIC FIGHT. A BILLION DOLLARS CAN BUY A LOT OF HYPE, PACKAGING, AND HOT AIR ABOUT THIS CROOK. If we don’t start taking counter action now, WE COULD GET STUCK WITH ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF AMERICAN DESTRUCTION.

    This time we can defeat him. BARRY NOW HAS A PITIFUL TRACK RECORD WE CAN REPEATEDLY DISCLOSE. It is a long laundry list of dirty deeds and treasonous crimes against America and Americans. Though, we don’t know much about him from his birth to his presidential campaign, WE KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT HIM NOW.

    WE NOW KNOW ABOUT HIS EXCESSIVE AND LAVISH LIFE STYLE HE AND EVITA LIVE AT TAX PAYER EXPENSE:

    • Lavish parties at the White House
    • Expensive dates with Michele
    • Extravagant vacations—Hawaii, Martha’s Vineyard, SPAIN, and the most lavish and expensive trip any leader every took in the history of this planet—THE OBAMA’S 10 DAY TRIP TO INDIA AT A GUESTIMATE COST OF ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS.

    WE KNOW ABOUT his practice of using BRIBERY, INTIMIDATION, OBFUSCATION AND OUTRIGHT LIES, AND MORE TO FORCE UNWANTED POLICY AND LAWS UPON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
    WE KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT BARRY SOTOERO IS A USURPER AND THAT THERE ARE THOUSANDS WHO HAVE VOLUNTARILY BEEN COMPLICIT IN THE COVER UP, THOUSANDS BRIBED INTO SILENCE, AND THOUSANDS WE SUSPECT WERE THREATENED.

    WE NOW KNOW HUSSEIN’S HATRED FOR CAUCASION AMERICANS AND AMERICA IN GENERAL. WE WATCHED IN DISBELIEF ERIC HOLDER DISMISS A VOTER INTIMIDATION CASE AGAINST THE BLACK PATHERS BECAUSE IT WAS A BLACK CRIME AGAINST WHITE VICTIMS WHILE BARRY REMAINED SILENT.

    WE HAVE NO DOUBT IN OUR MINDS THAT OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE PROGRAM IS NOT ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE FOR AMERICANS. IT IS A STRATEGIC ITEM TO GAIN TOTAL CONTROL AND DICTATORSHIP OF AMERICA ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT WHICH IS PLAN TWO IN OBAMA’S AGENDA IF HE SHOULD BE ELECTED A SECOND TERM.

    WE ALSO SEE HIS LOVE FOR MUSLIMS OVER CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. WE ARE KEENLY AWARE OF THE BILLIONS OF AMERICAN MONEY OBAMA LOOTED FROM THE AMERICAN TREASURY AND HAS FUNDED TO OUR ENEMIES—HAMAS. HEZBOLLA AND HUNDREDS OF OTHER MUSLIM JIHAD GROUPS AROUND THE GLOBE.

    WE WONDERED WHY THIS REGIME HAS BEEN SO CONCERNED THAT Sheik Mohammed Khalid get a fair trial in New York while LT.COL. LAKIN WAS DENIED EVEN THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF JUSTICE.
    WE EXPERIENCED THE VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITIONAL RIGHTS WITH THE INVASIVE SEARCHES BY TSA UPON INNOCENT TRAVELERS IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC SAFETY. EVEN WORSE—WE WATCHED STUPID TRAVELORS TRADE OUR CONSTIUTIONAL RIGHTS WITHOUT PROTEST IN SUPPORT THIS OBSCENE GOVERNMENT INSTRUSTION.

    WE WERE ALL TRAUMTIZED BY THE MASSIVE POISENING OF OUR BEAUTIFUL GULF AND HOW OBAMA USED THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO SHUT DOWN OVER 100 OIL RIGS WHILE SENDING THE OIL RIGS TO MEXICO TO DRILL IN THE SAME GULF.

    WE HEARD GLIB GIBBS AVOID, CONVOLUTE, COVER AND LIE FOR OBAMA’S CRIMINAL ACTIONS FOR OVER TWO YEARS.
    WE HAVE WTINESSED THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA BIAS, COVER UP, AND AVOIDANCE OF THE QUESTION OF OBAMA’S ELIGIBILITY WHILE IT SIMULTAENOUSLY IGNORED Obama’s many, many DELIBERATE MISINTERPRETATIONS OF AMERICAN HISTORY, THE WORDS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE CONSTITUTION. WE WITNESSED IN DISGUST THE MEDIA’S PERPETRATION OF FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS ALLEGED VIRTUES, BRILLIANCE AND SUCCESS. WE HAVE WAITED WITH HIGH HOPES FOR THE MEDIA TO REVEAL THE HARD CORE FACTS ABOUT HIM ONLY TO BE CONSTANTLY BETRAYED BY THE OBVIOUS COVERT SUPRRESION OF REAL NEWS. EVENTUALLY WE REALIZED—ALL THE MEDIA WAS BOUGHT OUT BY ARAB MONEY, GEORGE SOROS, AND NEW WORLD ORDER GROUPS WHO ARE PUSHING HARD TO TAKE DOWN AMERICA SO THEY CAN RULE THE WORLD!

    We watched IN AGONY THE DEPRECIATION OF OUR REAL ESTATE, THE MILLIONS OF FORECLOSURE OF OUR HOMES, AND THE LOSS OF JOBS THAT NEVER HAD TO HAPPEN IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE POLITICAL AND GOVERNMENT MANIPULATION OF BANKING AND MONEY LOOTED IN THE NAME OF “TOO BIG TO FAIL.”

    We wrote to our Congressmen, Senators, news papers. WE made signs and held them up at peaceful rallies. We stood in protest with hope we would be heard BY THE POLITICIANS WE ELECTED. Billboards were posted across America—Where’s the birth certificate? There were many other anti Obama billboards posted. All our efforts were met with both denigration and the GREAT SILENCE.

    The Republicans enjoyed the greatest victory in the mid term elections in over 40 years. THIS TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT STILL REFUSED TO HEAR US AND THE LAST ACT OF THE LAME DUCK CONGRESS WAS TO PASS S510—THE FOOD PROTECTION BILL THAT WILL MAKE CRIMINALS OF US ALL FOR GROWING OUR OWN TOMATOES AND EVENTUALLY PREVENT US FROM BUYING VITAMINS. THEY PLAN TO STARVE US.

    Most shameful of all is hearing OUR POLITICAL LEADERS STOOP TO THE LOWEST OF LOWS BY hiding under A NEW PRACTICE TO STOP FREE SPEECH CALLED “POLITICAL CORRECTNESS” and DENIGRATING TEA PARTY PEOPLE OR ANY ONE WHO DISAGREES WITH OBAMA’S POLICIES OR CHALLENGES HIS FAILURE TO PRODUCE HIS DOCUMENTS. IF WE TELL THE TRUTH OR MENTION THE LAWS OF THE LAND, WE ARE attacked, threatened and CALLED RACISTS, BIRTHERS, CONSPIRARCISTS, MUSLIMPHOBICS, HOMELAND TERRORISTS, RED NECKS, CONSTITUIONALIST . . . .

    Isn’t it abundantly clear that neither Republican nor Democrat has interest in SERVING THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM. IF THE 112TH CONGRESS HAS NOT ALREADY BEGUN THE DEMAND, INVESTIGATION, AND INDICTMENT OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, AKA BARRY SOTOERO WITH HIS 100 SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND WHO TREASONOUSLY FLYS THE CHINESE FLAG WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG AT THE WHITE HOUSE—THEY NEVER WILL.

    THEY NEVER WILL!

    All we have left is US. Us being what is left of WE THE PEOPLE who still believe in the founding fathers and the constitution. If we want to save what is left of our freedoms we must become solvers of these problems now. We must start itemizing what must be done, prioritize and begin. We must find as many items all can agree upon and start uniting and collaborating. One of my main issues is that there are still too many uniformed Americans we need to enlist in our cause. We must make it our personal business to get the facts to them. We must let them know what their choices are. Main stream media will not do this. We have to.

    One of the problem’s with getting MSM, Congress and the judicial system to take action regarding Barry’s usurpation and persist crimes against America is the fact there is still about 200,000,000 citizens who ARE EITHER NOT AWARE SOTOERO IS A FRAUD OR DON’T UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE. The others simply do not care. WE NEED TO GET INFORMATION TO THESE 200,000,000 PEOPLE TO COUNTER ACT THE MSM and WH LIES.

    What we patriots can do for very little cost is spread the word via UNDERGROUND NEWS LETTERS. Imagine if 1,000,000 patriots printed out some of the best articles regarding Obama’s ineligibility and crimes and left a few every where they went in a day. The cost of a ream of paper is about $5 to $7. There are 500 sheets in a ream. The cost of computer ink is minimal. It wouldn’t take very long to get the word out to the rest of the people still in the dark and it would cost much less if every one shared just a little bit. Inside of a month we could reach 200,000,000 people. Then repeat the news letter every week.

    The news letter should be anonymous. Print only articles that ARE DOCOUMENTED—especially briefs that have been filed in court. Publish website addresses that a potentially interested person can research. It should ask people to reprint the paper and pass it around to their contacts. They can be left in doctor’s offices, super market bulletin boards, hospital waiting rooms, post offices, restaurants, laundry matt bulletin boards, school campuses, work place lunch rooms, churches or where ever. They could be titled—WHAT MAIN STREAM MEDIA WON’T TELL YOU, THE REAL FACTS, TYRANNY IN AMERICA, OUTRAGE, WAKE UP, YOU HEARD THE LIES NOW GET THE FACTS, THE PRICE OF YOUR FREEDOM, RESIST COMMUNISM, KEEP GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF “YOUR JUNK” OR WHATEVER TITLE. Be certain to send copies to your Congressman, senator, assemblyman and local news media.

    The next strategy is to contact and coordinate with all branches of the military who also suspect Obama is a usurper, (there are quite a few retired who have come forward) LOCATE ANY JUDGES WHO ARE AWARE OF OBAMA’S USURPATION AND WOULD BE WILLING TO ADVISE AND TAKE ACTION ON THIS, specific patriots who have been bravely pursuing the presidential legitimacy–Dr. Kate, Jerome Corsi, Citizen Wells, WND, Phil Berg, Dr. Taitz, Mario Appuzzo, Dr. Terrence Lakin, Dc. Alan Keyes, Pastor Manning and others to devise a creative plan to put pressure on Boehner, Congress, Senate, state governors, state AG’s to place the legitimacy of this alleged president a first priority of investigation for the sake of the NATIONAL SECURITY OF AMERICA which is now seriously compromised.

    We must find ways to appeal to the Congressmen, Senators’ loyalty TO AMERICA–what little may be left, their oath to support and protect the Constitution, their duty to serve their constituents, the need to preserve the American Christian/Judeo way of life and more. THEY BETRAYED THEIR OWN COUNTRY IN TRADE FOR THEIR CAREERS AND 30 PIECES. We must also be prepared to embarrass and shame them, expose them, refuse to reelect them if they fail, and eventually indict them and try them for being complicit in the greatest crime every committed against their own country and its citizens. We should be willing to offer any one who chooses to offer evidence about Obama crimes immunity.

    WE MUST GO UNDER GROUND. WE MUST DO IT NOW. OUR LIVES ARE AT STAKE.

  152. bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 7:41 pm |
    Cantor did not need to say that he thought BO is a citizen. He has no way of knowing that. There is NO proof whatsoever that BO is a US citizen.

  153. Observer | January 23, 2011 at 4:37 pm |

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    You are right. It is a kind of terrorism.

    I don’t usually complain about Blog Masters, but there is by common agreement across the web a single duty that every Blog Master has – Keep their blog disinfected.

    If nothing else – at some point a malicious poster – can so violate the terms of service of the blogging provider (in this case, wordpress) that this provider will shut down a site. Wouldn’t it be a pizzer if CWs site were so destroyed for lack of supervision?

  154. Ted | January 23, 2011 at 4:25 pm |

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    See my most recent comment. This is a distinct possibility.

  155. USApatriots-shouts,
    Your last paragraph says a lot… it is the congressman and sentors’ silence that is treasonous, o can not be charged with treason against a country he is not a citizen of.

  156. usapatriots-shout,

    “All we have left is US. Us being what is left of WE THE PEOPLE who still believe in the founding fathers and the constitution. If we want to save what is left of our freedoms we must become solvers of these problems now.”
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    I agree.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  157. SeriouslySickOfObama

    usapatriots-shout, I will sign and demand ISSA do an internal investigation of misappropriations of funds, etc. Obama is bleeding us to death financially with his spending spree!!


  158. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm |

    …If you do not like the comments and you refuse to ignore the comments that you do not like, look at the top of the blog and see the X and click on it and LEAVE! I have just witnessed a group think of people admitting to emailing each other back and forth about certain members and you have planned your attack and have thrown CW in the middle demanding he remove certain bloggers. Then I seen a comment making a personal attack reference to someone’s wife and children, suggesting someone needed medication and in the same post ask for civil behavior. That is extremely hypocritical… You can not pick and chose the content of this blog. CW is not obligated to answer to anyone on this blog, he OWNS. I promise you, if you leave, others will come and take your place. I find that some of you are applying pressure and making unreasonable demands and dragging other faithful CW bloggers into it with you to feed the fire. What I suggest to anyone that does not want to live with CW’s decision to allow all bloggers to voice their opinions respectfully, then by all means, leave!! I will not allow anyone to put demands on CW when it is his work you are discrediting with your verbal attacks to a chosen few with your hit and run shots. There are many blogs you can go to and act like childish children, go seek one and don’t go away mad, just go away

    IT IS DISRESPECTFUL and DISGUSTING what is going on and is a discredit to this man’s work and dedication to America. I am so ashamed of most of you! I am honestly embarrassed for most of you! Please stop threatening to leave and just leave if you can’t allow CW the common decency to allow everyone the same VOICE of their own opinions, then go somewhere where you might find yourself in moderation and banned for this CHILDISH BEHAVIOR!!!

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    AMEN!

  159. Here is a thought, everyone is jumping to get on record so as to claim “WTH, I didn’t know” when shtf.

  160. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:58 pm | usapatriots-shout, I will sign and demand ISSA do an internal investigation of misappropriations of funds, etc. Obama is bleeding us to death financially with his spending spree!!

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    Ditto!

  161. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm |

    Thank you for your perspective. I read it with a pit in my stomach thinking about the hard work the CW has put into this blog only to see the deterioration in the dialogue amongst the followers. Hopefully you can see that my posts today and yesterday regarding this matter reinforce your opinions and do not intend to add more “fuel to the fire”. I think that I clearly stated what a person’s proper decorum should be when responding to opposing or irritating viewpoints. I am far from perfect, but I’ve tried to clean up my act here and elsewhere.
    Thank you.

  162. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle,

    EMPTY THREATS!!

    Wouldn’t it be a pizzer if CWs site were so destroyed for lack of supervision?

    How damn disrespectful because CW will not ban Free Speech bc you MADE THE CHOICE TO KEEP FIGHTING WITH HIM!! Go ahead and LEAVE, others will take your place!! STOP THIS!! This site will be here long after you have moved on to somewhere else. Don’t make empty threats to make CW act or react with your words. Not going to happen, CW has more integrity than that to break up a school yard fight among grown men!!

    Free Speech, CW would never ask you this, but I will, Can you limit the amount of times you post the same post bc it does cost him money for more bandwidth when the comments exceed a certain number?

    EVERYONE NOTICE THERE IS NO PAYPAL BUTTON ON THIS BLOG, MOST BLOGS HAVE ONE TO HELP PAY FOR BANDWIDTH, CW HAS NEVER ASK FOR A DIME!!!!

  163. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Paxson,
    You are on my MOST ADMIRED LIST!! I respect what you tried to do and I had hoped your words would mean more to the bloggers than mine, but they ignored you to continue this damn game!! Please stay and know that I deeply respect you, Paxson. You are a valuable asset to this blog!!

  164. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 6:52 pm |

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    First of all, it was Cabby, not me.

    But never the less – the more you talk, the more you out yourself as an appeaser. “Can’t we just all get along?” “Let’s focus on the important stuff?” These are the exact things that most people say about Obama. “We can’t deal with all that stuff, we need to focus on policy and legislation, etc. etc.”.

    The problem with appeaser, in general, is that they come from a false premise. They assume that everybody deep down wants to get along and that there is some “anomaly” that can be tamped down and all will be well. Appeasers do not account for the fact that there are occasionally people who are NOT interested in getting along but only in rousing rabbles.

    Appeasement in the context of these people makes things worse, not better. They make focusing on “the important stuff” even harder. And they will NOT be ignored. They will keep escalating and escalating.

    Churchill understood this, Chamberlain did not. I understand this. Cabby understands this. Many others posting here understand this. You worry me because your “good heart” and “good intentions” seem to be blinding you so that you do not understand this either.

    My father is like me. My mother is like what you appear to be. I love them both dearly, so don’t take this the wrong way. But you are not helping.

  165. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm |

    Free Speech, CW would never ask you this, but I will, Can you limit the amount of times you post the same post bc it does cost him money for more bandwidth when the comments exceed a certain number?

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    Yes, of course, I had already decided to limit bandwidth of my posts after reading your post above.

  166. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Free Speech,
    Thank you!!

  167. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    Carlyle,

    EMPTY THREATS!!

    Wouldn’t it be a pizzer if CWs site were so destroyed for lack of supervision?

    How damn disrespectful because CW will not ban Free Speech bc you MADE THE CHOICE TO KEEP FIGHTING WITH HIM!! Go ahead and LEAVE, others will take your place!! STOP THIS!! This site will be here long after you have moved on to somewhere else. Don’t make empty threats to make CW act or react with your words. Not going to happen…
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    Thanks SSOB!

  168. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 8:08 pm |

    First of all I am not an appeaser and second of all this is not World War 2 Great Britain. Go back and read what I have written today on this subject. Read it all and think about it for a spell, you will see that I am not this “appeaser” that you keep referring to . I just have respect for CW and his blog and I was trying to do my part to help this blog get back on track. I have my own opinions on the people promoting this diversion, but I choose to keep them to myself as it really isn’t important what my feelings are about each individual. We are here for a reason and that is to discuss how we each are going to contribute in our own way to make our democracy and country a better place.

    Also, I told Cabby that I erred. Cabby and I are fine friends, so I’m not going to let you cause a rift. Do some soul searching about your role in this conflict and do something to change the daily outcome.

  169. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm |

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    And it does not bother you or CW that certain posters here spit in his face repeatedly? And that, in turn, diminishes this blog and diminishes all of us here?

    You also continue to miss the entire point. NOBODY (except Free Speech) has lashed out at anyone for their opinions. THE PROBLEM is the continued bullying and attacks. Regardless of what you claim, it is highly unusual for a blog owner to allow that.

    It is also REASONABLE that the people who create the majority of the CONTENT on this blog have a righteous reason to express their opinions on having this level of disruption.

    Ultimately you are right in that as the blog master, CW has to make the call. But a lot of people have invested a lot of time here and there are real costs and opportunity costs involved. Please do not assume that the people who post here are just a bunch of free loaders with nothing better to do.

    To summarize – we ask only that the bullying and lashing out be stopped. That can be done without excluding anyone. If people cannot conform with righteous rules that are established, then it is reasonable for them to leave or be kicked out.

    Finally, you can look back. I believe it is EVERY TIME, but certainly a vast majority – whenever CW makes a rule, inserts a comment to soothe the situation, or otherwise tries to defuse the abuse – there is exactly one person who violates the very same within minutes. This should not be acceptable.

    It is EXTREMELY RUDE and VERY WRONG for you to make an equivalence, or a clash of opinions, here. There is a right and a wrong and it is not even close. For you to say otherwise is INSULTING IN THE EXTREME.

  170. usapatriots-shout |, I posted this earlier, this should brighten your hopes for our future. This will all come about long before the 2012 election. All it will take is for Obama to be thrown off the ballot in one state, and the flood gates will be opened.

    bob strauss | January 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm |

    This is from Orly Taitz site.

    Update on state eligibility bills

    Posted on | January 22, 2011 | 8 Comments

    1. TX-filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed. Please visit Tea Party supported governor of Chris Perry, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    2 GA- filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed. please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of GA Nathan Deal, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    3. Mo- filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed.

    4.MT- filed. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed.

    5 PA announced planned filing. Republican majority in both houses and Republican Governor. Eligibility bill is expected to pass and be confirmed.

    6. AZ announced planned filing. AZ past eeligibility bill in the stare Assembly last year and was 2 votes short in the state senate. There are more Republicans in the state assembly and senate and Repub governor. Eeligibility bill is expected to pass both houses and be signed by the Governor

    7. OK- past eligibility bill in the state Assembly last year, was 1 vote short in the state Senate. There are more Republicans in OK this year, eligibility bill is expected to pass both houses. Please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of OK Mary Falin, urge her to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    8. TN- Four TN state representatives signed up as my clients in CA eligibility law suit: Eric Swafford, Glen Cassada, Stacy Campfield, Frank Nicely. Please, visit them and urge them to file the proposed bill ASAP

    9. NH- 2 NH state representatives Larry Rappaport and Timothy Commerford signed up as my clients in CA eligibility law suit. Please, visit their offices with the draft of the proposed bill, urge them to submit ASAP.

    10. SD pleasevisit state reresentative Manny Steele, urge him to join state representatives of 10 other states and file the proposed eligibility bill

    11. CA please, visit the tea party supported state representative Tim Donnelly (former military) urge him to join other states in submitting the eligibility bill

    12. ME- please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of ME Paul LePage, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    13 NM- please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of NM Suzanna Martinez, urge her to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    14. SC please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of SC Nikky Haily , urge her to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    15. VA please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor ofVA Bob MacDonald, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    16 NJ- please visit the newly elected Tea Party supported governor of NJ Chris Christie, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)

    17. IA please visit Republican governor Terry Branstad, urge him to sign an executive order, demanding original vital records of presidentail and vice-presidential candidates to verify complience with article 2, section 1 Natural born citizen requirement (born on U.S. soil to US citizen parents with undivided allegiance to the United States)- Keep in mind, Branstad is a U.S. army vet, please, share with himthe story of Terry Lakin.

    We need eligibility bills filed in each and every state of the union, even in blue states, as it shows the regime, that we are still the nation of law and the Constitution, that the Constitution matters and state Representatives and senators are ready to fight for the rule of law. During the last election there were some 700 more Republican state assemblyman elected all over the country, as the nation is not willing to tolerate this assault on our rights and our Constitution any further. Please, call me at 949-683-5411, if you are able to lobby state representativ

  171. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm |

    …If you do not like the comments and you refuse to ignore the comments that you do not like, look at the top of the blog and see the X and click on it and LEAVE! I have just witnessed a group think of people admitting to emailing each other back and forth about certain members and you have planned your attack and have thrown CW in the middle demanding he remove certain bloggers. Then I seen a comment making a personal attack reference to someone’s wife and children, suggesting someone needed medication and in the same post ask for civil behavior. That is extremely hypocritical… You can not pick and chose the content of this blog. CW is not obligated to answer to anyone on this blog, he OWNS. I promise you, if you leave, others will come and take your place. I find that some of you are applying pressure and making unreasonable demands and dragging other faithful CW bloggers into it with you to feed the fire. What I suggest to anyone that does not want to live with CW’s decision to allow all bloggers to voice their opinions respectfully, then by all means, leave!! I will not allow anyone to put demands on CW when it is his work you are discrediting with your verbal attacks to a chosen few with your hit and run shots. There are many blogs you can go to and act like childish children, go seek one and don’t go away mad, just go away

    IT IS DISRESPECTFUL and DISGUSTING what is going on and is a discredit to this man’s work and dedication to America. I am so ashamed of most of you! I am honestly embarrassed for most of you! Please stop threatening to leave and just leave if you can’t allow CW the common decency to allow everyone the same VOICE of their own opinions, then go somewhere where you might find yourself in moderation and banned for this CHILDISH BEHAVIOR!!!
    ————————————————————-

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    Carlyle,

    EMPTY THREATS!!

    Wouldn’t it be a pizzer if CWs site were so destroyed for lack of supervision?

    How damn disrespectful because CW will not ban Free Speech bc you MADE THE CHOICE TO KEEP FIGHTING WITH HIM!! Go ahead and LEAVE, others will take your place!! STOP THIS!! This site will be here long after you have moved on to somewhere else. Don’t make empty threats to make CW act or react with your words. Not going to happen…
    —————————————————

  172. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm |

    =====================================

    It is hard to believe that you actually read this blog. There is ONLY ONE PERSON here who slashes and burns. There is ONLY ONE PERSON here who engages in hit and run attacks.

    Further, your post is diffused through and through with “freedom of speech” sentiments – and we have said repeatedly that this is not the issue. So you, like many politicians we complain about, are deflecting the issue and throwing up a strawman.

    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VALID OPINIONS OR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

    To address a particular point. In regard to belligerent erratic behavior, it is perfectly reasonable to ask if one is seeking help or in need of meds. It is not OK to direct these questions to people because of their opinions. And there is ONLY ONE PERSON on this blog that routinely attacks – ATTACKS – people for their opinions alone.

  173. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm |

    ================================

    Now, you see what happens – SSOO? You post comments like you did and certain people take them as a blessing for ALL that they do and just run with them. If you thought your comments were fair and balanced, or were helping in some way, perhaps you can now see the result.

  174. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle,
    I followed you all day yesterday and seen you try to provoke Free Speech numerous times, Free Speech has been spoken to and ask to respond with words like, I respect your opinion, but I disagree. He has kept his word that I requested of him. He ignored your numerous attempts to bait him into further arguments and I HAVE NEVER MADE ANY PRESUMPTIONS of the bloggers here, you are twisting my words and projecting them into my comment. But, if this is how you really feel……

    It is EXTREMELY RUDE and VERY WRONG for you to make an equivalence, or a clash of opinions, here. There is a right and a wrong and it is not even close. For you to say otherwise is INSULTING IN THE EXTREME.

    LEAVE, LEAVE, LEAVE!! No one is going to be backed into a corner and do what you say and if you don’t like the way CW runs his blog, START YOUR OWN!! Feel free to spend your time and money to do so. Please be mindful when you speak that you are putting words into my comments, I have no disrespect for any blogger or supporter of CW’s!! I love this man deeply as a FRIEND and would stand in the flames of fire for him and unless you are willing to do that for him and respect this man on this blog, THEN GET THE HELL OFF HERE AND MAKE YOUR OWN BLOG, SPEND YOUR MONEY, YOUR TIME and WRITE YOUR OWN DAMN ARTICLES!!

    CW and I are committed in one united front and that is FREE SPEECH!!! If the person Free Speech needs to be spoken to, then CW can handle that off the blog in private, but it is not up to you to tell CW who to talk to, if CW finds a reasonable fault to address someone, then he will in private, not a public lashing for all to view and laugh at!!

  175. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm |

    Carlyle,

    EMPTY THREATS!!

    Wouldn’t it be a pizzer if CWs site were so destroyed for lack of supervision?

    This is no threat, nor do I a mere mortal have any say in this matter. My only point was that most blog masters realize the importance of keeping their blogs disinfected, if for no other reason of dealing with this very real possibility.

    CW has more integrity than that to break up a school yard fight among grown men!!

    This shows a serious lack of grasp of what has been happening. It is not helping that you further this false characterization of, and trivialization, of a VERY SERIOUS situation.

  176. In October 2010, Soros announced that he was donating $1 million to Media Matters for America, which would use the money to hold “Fox [News] host Glenn Beck and others on the cable news channel accountable for their reporting.”
    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977

  177. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

    ==================================

    1. Was not trying to cause any rift, and nothing I said should do that.

    2. An appeaser is as an appeaser does. Read again more carefully the basic fault of an appeaser – wrong assumption that everybody is good at heart. At some point you conclude that some people are irredeemable – i.e. they WISH and CHOOSE to cause disruption. Ignoring them or appeasing them makes the worse! You, and now especially SSOO are ENABLING the culprit. You are aiding and abetting the problem. Your intentions are of course good, but it will not work.

    3. No, this is not WWII, but it is pretty dang important. Certain people things this is all playing games. I am seriously SERIOUS. This is a life and death struggle.

  178. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm |

    Carlyle,

    I followed you all day yesterday and seen you try to provoke Free Speech numerous times, Free Speech has been spoken to and ask to respond with words like, I respect your opinion, but I disagree. He has kept his word that I requested of him. He ignored your numerous attempts to bait him into further arguments and I HAVE NEVER MADE ANY PRESUMPTIONS of the bloggers here, you are twisting my words and projecting them into my comment. But, if this is how you really feel……

    LEAVE, LEAVE, LEAVE!! No one is going to be backed into a corner and do what you say and if you don’t like the way CW runs his blog, START YOUR OWN!! Feel free to spend your time and money to do so. Please be mindful when you speak that you are putting words into my comments, I have no disrespect for any blogger or supporter of CW’s!! I love this man deeply as a FRIEND and would stand in the flames of fire for him and unless you are willing to do that for him and respect this man on this blog, THEN GET THE HELL OFF HERE AND MAKE YOUR OWN BLOG, SPEND YOUR MONEY, YOUR TIME and WRITE YOUR OWN DAMN ARTICLES!!

    —————–
    AMEN!

  179. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm |

    Carlyle,
    I followed you all day yesterday and seen you try to provoke Free Speech numerous times, Free Speech has been spoken to and ask to respond with words like, I respect your opinion, but I disagree. He has kept his word that I requested of him. He ignored your numerous attempts to bait him into further arguments

    ====================================

    This is so incredibly wrong I don’t even know where to begin. Has disagreeing with someone now become “baiting”? I thought you were the one who was promoting freedom of speech a moment ago.

    He has “ignored your attempts to bait him” – this is also false. He not only pounces on most of what I say – but engages in petty bullying – and even misquoting or making up lies. Things that I never do.

    He has never, not once, said “I respect your opinon, but I disagree” to anyone. Where do you get this stuff from?

    You are sounding more and more like an advocate for FS’s bad behavior or even FS himself. This is way too weird. Actually surreal. Like you are describing a weird parallel universe.

  180. Eric Canter saying what he did on t.v. today—is as shocking as if Alan Keyes—came out with —-BHO IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN ~!!!!
    Sorry, folks i think this country is gone or almost COMPLETLY GONE !!
    Hard to believe the entire Congress and Fed. Govt. is not all involved in this socialist takeover—after comments by BOEHNER AND NOW CANTOR.
    P.S. I counted 3 FS COMMENTS IN A ROW—-3 YES 3 TIMES ON THIS VERY BLOG TONIGHT !!!
    I MISS THE BLOGGERS SUE K-PETER FRANCISCO ETC. WHO LEFT HERE——-BUT DON’T BLAME THEM ONE BIT !!!!!!
    SIMMER DOWN FOLKS—DON’T LEAVE—I LOVE ALL OF YOU !!

  181. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Paxson, Do not take the bait!! Free Speech, Don’t copy and paste, he hears me loud and clear! Carlyle, Take a break from this blog, take a deep breath and think about how you want to be seen in on his blog. If everyone wants to be respected and their opinions valued and appreciated, then be mindful of what you say when you post.

    I have a FB full of FAITHFUL CW FRIENDS, If I sent out an SOS to come to this blog to fix all this trouble, it would cost CW over $1000 in bandwidth from the numerous members that respect this man. If you truly admire and respect, CW, then stop and think before you post! I read this blog DAILY, I know who is starting what and who is here for the right reasons.

  182. Carlyle – 8:32 PM

    I see a little tandem work appearing to be in force.

  183. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

    ==================================

    1. Was not trying to cause any rift, and nothing I said should do that.

    2. An appeaser is as an appeaser does. Read again more carefully the basic fault of an appeaser – wrong assumption that everybody is good at heart. At some point you conclude that some people are irredeemable – i.e. they WISH and CHOOSE to cause disruption. Ignoring them or appeasing them makes the worse! You, and now especially SSOO are ENABLING the culprit. You are aiding and abetting the problem. Your intentions are of course good, but it will not work.

    3. No, this is not WWII, but it is pretty dang important. Certain people things this is all playing games. I am seriously SERIOUS. This is a life and death struggle.
    ___________________________________________________
    Oh for God’s sake, get over yourself Carlyle. I never passed judgement as to who was right or wrong. I tried to give people like you a blue print as to how to manage your emotions here on this blog. Contrary to your opinion of yourself, you have become totally unhinged. I also never said that FS was handling things in a positive fashion either and mentioned his name calling and repetitive posting several times. But the way that I see it is that you are now, and have been, aggravating the situation by provoking FS to lash out against you. Also, it is possible to disagree with a person and still have the decorum to ignore and opinion and rebut it in a fashion that will move the discussion forward in a positive direction. Proof positive is this new schtick of your’s calling me an appeaser. You said it once, you knew that it irritated me, and then you expand on it as if you were going to get a different result other than an argument. Which I’m not going to give you. You think that I am an appeaser and I’m telling you for the last time that I am not.

    If you are unhappy with FS’s behavior, first take a look in the mirror to see what you yourself can do yourself to keep this a positive place to comment.

  184. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 6:25 pm |

    Linda Starr | January 23, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
    GREAT POST (read to the end for the questions):

    ===================================

    Back to real work – – –

    Let’s discuss this. One “definitive” conclusion they reach is that he won’t release the real certificate because it says Barry Soetoro on it.

    I don’t get it. My reaction is – so what? Everybody knows that he was named Barry Soetoro for at least part of his life. What names end up on birth certificates often seem mysterious because of timeing of legal proceedings and/or other paperwork.

    It would not seem any big deal or major gotcha to me that it would say that. The way adoptions and birth certificates interact and cross populate each other is also mysterious.

    So, my feeling is that the hillbuzz insight is not IT. There must be something even worse.

    Opinions?

  185. It is unfortunate that some of the good people on this blog have seen fit to devote their precious time and wisdom to squabbling like playground bullies. You all need to grow up and act like adults. I agree that the repetitive posts are annoying but I can scroll past them. What I object to is the name calling and the snippy remarks. Free Speech is NOT the only one who has lashed out at anyone for their opinions. I was also unjustly called an obot a few weeks ago by some of you for daring to dispute claims made by MT so I know how it feels.

    I don’t believe for one minute that Cabby – AZ or oldsalt are obots. I believe that most of us are kindred spirits who share the same desire to reveal the truth about Obama. We should not present ourselves as adversaries in the eyes of the liberal world. They are lurking and laughing that we are sniping at each other instead of directing our attention to presenting the truth about Obama. We can disagree without being disrespectful, can’t we?

    For all of you who are blasting Mr. Wells for not banning certain contributors , take heed to the following two posts from previous threads here at citizenwells.

    jbjd | January 19, 2011 at 1:49 am |
    Please, anyone with posting rights at FreeRepublic, help.
    In the past several hours, I have received hundreds of hits from Free Republic, through links posted on a couple of their sites – “news” and “blogs” – by someone named Mortrey. FR banned me from posting on that site ever since I wrote the article favorably comparing Alan West and Barack Obama……….

    • misstickly | December 17, 2010 at 2:08 pm |
    And if anyone can or would please post a link somewhere at FreeRepublic for those many interested people, please do so. It’s too important to not get the word out over there. I can’t post because was banned as a ‘troll’ for outing some Obot plants, ………..
    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    In past months Free Republic has banned jbjd, misstickly , Ron Polarik, Lucas Smith, another cw commentator and even Yours Truly. Are you sure that is what you want to happen here? Mr. Wells has provided us with a free flowing forum where we can share news and information and voice our opinions. I am grateful to him for all the time and energy he has put forth in order to make this available to us. I come here daily to read his posts and to learn from all of you, and yes, Free Speech included.

    A wise southern lady responded to her teenager who complained that the spaghetti sauce was too spicy. “Honey”, she said with a smile, “If you don’t like the food here then find another kitchen to eat in”.

    Now getting of my soapbox, let’s get back on topic.……….

    Paxson,
    Thanks for the post at hillbuzz.

    http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/23/hawaii-ground-report-could-hawaiian-governor-neil-abercrombie-not-be-as-incompetent-and-foolish-as-he-appears-but-orchestrating-a-deliberate-birth-certificate-recovery-dead-end-to-cover-his-own-pap/

    It might be a good idea to revisit the possibility that one reason Obama the Fraud refuses to show his original birth certificate is because it reflects amendments that reveal he was legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro and the usurper is/was legally Indonesian, Barry Soetoro? Remember Fukino’s statement where she said – – –

    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital RECORDS maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen”.
    #######

    Notice that she said RECORDS, which indicates more than one document, possibly an amendment pertaining to an adoption. Throughout the years, Obama may have used the old cigar box birth certificate as well as the Soetoro adoption BC, depending on which one suited his purpose at the time. One proving American citizenship and another showing Indonesian citizenship. Two identities, Barack Obama or Barry Soetoro? Would this clandestine cover-up be considered a high crime and misdemeanor?

  186. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle,

    He has never, not once, said “I respect your opinion, but I disagree” to anyone. Where do you get this stuff from?
    ————–
    No, he has not yet, but this email was just recently sent and he was ask not to respond to any comment that was would start an argument, or maybe he has not received it, yet.

    I am not here to allow Free Speech anything that I do not want for all here to have and that is a right to voice your opinion with respectful replies, Carlyle, please stop twisting my words and stop making statements that have no merit. I am here for CW, not you, not Free Speech, ONLY CW to fix this mess that has been created among civil bloggers. Never lose sight of the fact you are all here for the same cause! Turning against each other only makes the lurkers that would normally post afraid to bc they may be attacked. I find this whole situation disrespectful and I don’t understand how grown people can behave this way. My 19 year old daughter has a FB, and I have never seen anything on her FB that remotely resembles the childish behavior I have seen here on this blog!!

  187. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm |

    10 4

  188. TO UASPATRIOTS-SHOUT 7;49
    i do so love to read your informative and interesting comments. probably one of the best bloggers ANYWHERE !
    ALSO PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST “TYPISTS”—-ANYWHERE!!
    PLEASE DON’T LEAVE—I WILL MISS YOU ,EVEN IF FS DOESN’T !
    TAKE CARE-GOD BLESS YOU !——–ANNE MARIE

  189. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm |

    If you truly admire and respect, CW, then stop and think before you post! I read this blog DAILY, I know who is starting what and who is here for the right reasons.
    ****************************
    I have been posting here regularly for about a year, and, funny, I don’t remember hearing from you at any other time when there was trouble. If you care for CW as much as you say you do, then why didn’t you intervene before? This has been going off and on for a long time.

    It is very strange that you defend the one who has been the name-caller here, and it is equally peculiar that FS kowtows to you but then continues on with his verbal assaults on anyone whom he disagrees with. Frankly, I smell a rat. Something is not right about your emergence during the last couple of days.

  190. Regarding HDOH, I think Dr. Kate is onto something. I accepted her invitation and emailed in a request using her template at her blog. Will keep you posted on what transpires.

  191. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Jonah,
    THANK YOU!!! As a regular poster, you may get through to the one’s you have here as friends. I know most of you under another user name, but I retired it long ago. I refuse to out myself bc it’s not important who I am, it’s what I have to say. Most of you are my FRIENDS, and you don’t even know it or see it in my writing style? I have been away for awhile because of medical problems.

    Thank you, Jonah for showing where others were banned on different sites. That is the rock this blog is built on, FREEDOM OF SPEECH!! Thank you, CW!! You are a TRUE AMERICAN AND YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU FRIEND!!

  192. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm |

    ===============================

    Well, then, did you read THIS. I have done this repeatedly. This is my MO. I never rebuke other’s opinions. But I will not stand for my friends and associates to be bullied and attacked. There are a great number of poster here who are glad I am supporting them and who think that I capture and state their concerns. You seem to think that I am a lone complainer or malcontent.

    I posted this earlier. I am still waiting for FS to agree to this.

    FS: Please remind us where these cases are in the process, what happens next, when? What do you like about them? What parts of them might be “iffy”? etc. Now, THAT, would be helpful.

    I have commented before on the apparent dual personality of your posts. So we know you can do it. Let’s have more of THIS. If you confined yourself to this kind of helpful dialog, I would never complain about you or your posts – whether I agree with you or not.

    That is why I claim the high moral ground. Will you join me on this higher ground? How ’bout right here, right now, a solemn pledge. No more crap!

    If he were righteous and were trying to help instead of hindering, he would agree to this: No more bullying, no more attacks, no more name calling, and no more crap (such as lies and misquoting). It is quite simple – and up to ONE MAN.

    Why don’t you ask him to agree to this. I will never criticize him again if he agrees to this. I would have no need to because this is all I am criticizing in the first place.

    This is all much simpler than you want to make it.

  193. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Cabby-AZ,
    I have been posting here regularly for about a year, and, funny, I don’t remember hearing from you at any other time when there was trouble. If you care for CW as much as you say you do, then why didn’t you intervene before? This has been going off and on for a long time.
    —————–
    I had breast cancer! I could not post, my daughter read the blogs daily to me or I would have been in the mist before now. I now have treatment every Jan. for prevention since I tested positive for the Breast Cancer Gene, so forgive me for my time away and see my post above what I was absent, CW knows why I am now back and blogging! I hope this clears up your issue with my absence and user name.
    FYI, I am not defending Free Speech, all of you that are seeing that in my writing are reading my statements out of context. I am defending everyone’s right to blog peacefully and without having to put up with bullies!

  194. jeanniejo?

  195. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 9:05 pm |

    Carlyle,

    he was ask not to respond to any comment that was would start an argument

    I’m still not sure you “get it”. Opinons are GOOD. Arguments are GOOD. Batting around ideas are GOOD. Freedom of speech is GOOD. It is the CRAP that has to QUIT. I don’t even care if FS says “I respect your opinion, but…”. I only insist that he not attack people and not falsely accuse them and not lie about them. These do not seem like unreasonable “rules of engagement” for a blog. And it baffles me that you or CW or anyone else thinks it is difficult or unwise to enforce them.

    My 19 year old daughter has a FB, and I have never seen anything on her FB that remotely resembles the childish behavior I have seen here on this blog!!

    THAT I understand loud and clear and agree 100%.

  196. SeriouslySickOfObama

    EVERYONE Copy and paste this pledge to start today this statement and stand by your word!!

    Will you join me on this higher ground? How ’bout right here, right now, a solemn pledge. No more crap!

    I will start,

    SERIOUSLY SICK OF OBAMA WILL TAKE THE PLEDGE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE AND NOT BULLY ANYONE AND RESPECT EVERYONE’S RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION AND You can take my word that the about statement is on my HONOR!!

    PASS IT ON!!

    KEY WORDS: No saying…that is nonsense, bullshit, stupid, idiot, obot-unless it is an obot, expect them to arrive anytime now bc of the 2012 election coming-no insults, ignore comments that you feel are disrespectful

    Everyone add your terms for keywords as you wish and repost your commitment to stop this insanity and respect CW once and for all!!

    Please and Thank you!

  197. “Rainbow Glitter Bear 1: Looking for Obama’s Birth Certificate In Hawaii”

  198. “RAINBOW GLITTER BEAR 2: Meeting Hawaiian Governor Bear for Obama’s Long form Birth Certificate”

  199. Cabby – AZ | January 23, 2011 at 9:14 pm |

    ==================================

    Thank you Cabby for expressing your opinion. Frankly I am “seriously sick” of people trying to twist this discussion into a “freedom of speech” issue. I’m tired of people accusing some of us for “being unhinged” about other people’s OPINONS!

    All that TOTALLY MISSES THE POINT. I would love nothing better than to debate ideas with people. But how can you do that when one of the “arguers” (<—- I mean that in a good way) fails to argue or reason, but just falls down and attacks people.

    It is the classic – "I think this", "I think that", "here is why I believe I am right", "you're an idiot". The arguments/debates always end this way. This is what has to stop.

    I don't respect the assertions of anyone who does not understand that this is the issue. I don't know how more clear I can be. IT IS NOT ABOUT OPINIONS AND ARGUMENTS – IT IS ABOUT UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.

    And – regardless of Paxson's protestations, appeasement will just make it worse. The problem will eventually have to be dealt with. It will be harder later.

  200. bob strauss @ 4:35 pm |
    You should see 4-6 of them sitting at a bar-huge, huge, huge.

  201. GORDO | January 23, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    @Gordo, here are some possibilities to consider regard remarks by Eric Cantor:

    1. Cantor is unaware that Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and that his correct name is Soebarkah Soetoro or just Barry Soetoro;
    2. Barry did not lose his U.S. citizenship when Lolo Soetoro adopted him. ( I am not familiar with your citizneship laws to have an opinion on this one).
    3. Yes Barry is a US citizen because his mother is a citizen but there is a big maybe with this one since Ann Dunham was too young to confer citizenship.
    4. Eric Cantor is relying upon a forged Internet document claiming Barry was born in Hawaii.

    I suspect that 4 is the most likely reason for Cantor to come to this conclusion. Yet Cantor has failed to address the requirement for POTUS because what is required is at the higher level of Natural Born Citizen. This is what you must challenge. In other words accepting that Barry was born in Hawaii does not mean that Barry is eligible to be POTUS because Barry’s alleged father is a British subject and under British law, the British citizenship was conferred on Barry at birth.

  202. Jonah | January 23, 2011 at 9:05 pm |

    =============================

    You too are a bit wide of the point in one respect. I NEVER CONDONE BANNING POSTERS FOR CONTENT OR OPINIONS. Free Republic and others remove posters who violate their own self-righteous group-think. This is deplorable. Not only is it “un American” but it torpedoes their own credibility.

    But this does not mean that there are not other reasons for censuring people. See my earlier post on congress and the rules of order and ethics committee for a good analogy.

  203. Aussie | January 23, 2011 at 9:38 pm |

    Aussie, I generally agree with you here. But if Obama had obtained an Indonesian passport after the age of 18, due to my interpretation of Indonesian citizenship laws of no dual citizenship (until 2 years ago when they changed it), would he thereby defacto be renouncing his U.S. citizenship?

  204. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 9:38 pm |

    Carlyle, we understand your position. Can’t you stop? What good does it do to keep banging your head against the wall? Is it just for the good feeling that you get when you stop? FS confirmed that he heard SSO and we are moving on. It is your choice now and has been your choice to keep up this line of dialogue. In addition, I’ll ignore your additional appeaser accusation again, but mention here it to show you that you are like a broken record and despite your protests otherwise that it is you indeed that is looking for a battle, that I’m not going to give to you.

  205. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 9:48 pm |

    Only solution is to ignore carlyle until he is put in moderation again.

  206. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 9:52 pm |

    =======================================

    This is yet ANOTHER LIE. In this case since FS has accused CW of doing something very specific and verifiable, it think it is reasonable to demand that CW say if this is truth or lie.

    The only way you can really get rid of lies is to expose them.

  207. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 9:48 pm |

    Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 9:38 pm |

    ================================

    Free Speech as NEVER admitted that he is out of line and changing. In fact in direct conflict to your happy assumption, he just posted another attack and another lie.

    When are you going to “get it”?

    Banging my head against the wall or not – I will not stop until the attacks the bullying and the crap have stopped.

  208. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm |

    have we been reading the same set of comments? I have seen the exact opposite. Even in this thread I have seen all of the baiting that has come from FS.

    It is the reason that I stepped in and smacked Lillibet for jumping in t with unfounded and intemperate comments over a response that was directed to me over what was a new nickname for Ahmanutjob. Lillibet was clearly in the wrong to have gone on that rant that looked like someone has PMS rather than from someone who is of sound mind. It fact it looked a lot like the rantings of Starla who keeps freaking out.
    I happen to disagree with Carlyle over a great many things but we keep it polite. Yet on this blog a few individuals are constantly demanding that people “must read this” or they must “read Scripture” or they jump on a bandwagon of conspiracy theory suggestions.
    I will point out the one concerning Judge John Roll, because that man died as a hero. He was shot in the back when he was under the table. John Roll saw another man being shot, he dived to push the man down and under the table, where he was on top of the injured man, when the gunman turned and shot him in the back and the leg under the table.

    Judge John Roll was not the assassination target, because the real target was Gabriella Giffords.
    Yet, day in day out the lie that came from a suspicious source is repeated over and over again.
    I rarely post because I do not want to see some of the fruitcakes who post here going into meltdown.

    Personally, I am glad that people like Peter Francisco do not post here.

  209. Carlyle said: Free Speech as NEVER admitted that he is out of line and changing.

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    Free Speech, Don’t copy and paste, he hears me loud and clear! Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 9:06 pm | said to:
    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm |

    10 4
    ____________________________________________

    FS said 10 4. That is an acknowledgement. Now please let it go.

  210. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    Only solution is to ignore carlyle until he is put in moderation again.
    ****************************
    Honest inquiry: How do YOU know when he is put in moderation? Hmmm…..

  211. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 9:42 pm |

    Paxson, the issue of the Indonesian passport is speculation at this time.

    My response to Gordo is based upon what is known, rather than on the speculation.

    You could be right about the use of the Indonesian passport, but that does not mean that Eric Cantor is aware of that fact.

    Please look again at how I raised the points that I made because I was addressing the possibility that most members of Congress are relying upon a forged document that was posted at factcheck.org. I was not addressing the many other issues that have been raised.

  212. here.

    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Carlyle said: Free Speech as NEVER admitted that he is out of line and changing.

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    Free Speech, Don’t copy and paste, he hears me loud and clear! Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 9:06 pm | said to:
    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm |

    10 4
    ____________________________________________

    FS said 10 4. That is an acknowledgement. Now please let it go.

    ————————–
    carlyle is only here to disrupt from intelligent discussion, Paxson.

    —————————
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/05/exposing-obamas-psyops-agents-and.html

  213. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 10:06 pm |

    =============================

    His comment is meaningless and irrelevant. I don’t even understand the command or the response. Cut and pasting is a wonderful thing to do. That is how we communicate and engage in meaningful debates and dialogs.

    And did you not grasp my notice that ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

    The “moderation” attack has been one of FS’s most frequent and successful over several months. His subtext is that he FS is righteous and has special favor of CW – as evidenced by the fact that he is never put in moderation – but his “enemies” are frequently in moderation – and therefore second class citizens because, as he has indicated before, that CW keeps them locked in moderation and only lets them out occasionally.

    His most recent post of course does not say all that – but it is direct reference to that kind of crap that he has been saying for months.

    I would say he has not changed and has no intention to. You can also find dozens of examples in the last few months of where CW has specifically asked the community to not do certain things (e.g. “don’t call other people Obots”) and FS is always quick to violate the rule, sometimes in like the very next post. I fail to understand how CW does not understand this as a direct spit in the face.

    This recent “moderation” like is just such another attack. Mark my words.

  214. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 10:15 pm |

    =============================

    Yet another attack.

  215. Aussie | January 23, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 9:42 pm |

    Paxson, the issue of the Indonesian passport is speculation at this time.
    __________________________________________________
    I agree, that is why when and if the layers of the onion are peeled away that the school records from Occidental are examined to determine if he did, in fact, get funding as a “foreign national” as some records in California indicate may have happened.

    Your second point here: “Please look again at how I raised the points that I made because I was addressing the possibility that most members of Congress are relying upon a forged document that was posted at factcheck.org. I was not addressing the many other issues that have been raised.” I agree with and that is why if it is proven that the document has been altered that even if posting it on fightthesmears may not have been a crime according to jbjd, it carries with it so many other opportunities.

  216. Cabby – AZ | January 23, 2011 at 10:11 pm |

    He does not know and has been caught out on that particular lie on many occasions

  217. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 10:19 pm |

    Paxson I happen to disagree with JBJD on this one. It is her personal opinion because she is pushing her own agenda

  218. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
    Said to Carlyle:
    THEN GET THE HELL OFF HERE AND MAKE YOUR OWN BLOG, SPEND YOUR MONEY, YOUR TIME and WRITE YOUR OWN DAMN ARTICLES!!
    **********************************
    Very sorry to hear about your breast cancer, and I hope you have a full recovery. With all due respect, you have injected yourself at this time to try to quiet things down, but with statements like the above, it appears that you are unwittingly adding fuel to the fire. I wouldn’t call the above command the epitome of civility – just the opposite.

    Maybe it would be good for you to back off a bit, take a deep breath, and cool down. Your efforts, no matter how well-meaning, are only serving to reinforce bad behavior by FS. Don’t you see how he says how much he appreciates your views and then turns his back and keeps right on with the insults? It appears that you are very prejudiced against anyone who dares speak up against his abuses. Why?

    Why would you support someone who has run off many good posters who won’t come here anymore because of him and his rants? That’s the big question in my mind.

  219. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
    I forgot to add here that I agree with your comment about the Occidental College records. It would seem that none of that family have been above indulging in a bit of fraud.

  220. Aussie | January 23, 2011 at 10:20 pm |

    Cabby – AZ | January 23, 2011 at 10:11 pm |

    ==================================

    That is all right ladies. I think I’ll knock off for the night.

    But I think I finally had an insight – an epiphany, really.

    I “battle” people for attacking other people, spewing lies, misquoting others, etc. I am called “unhinged”, “disruptive”, “disrespectful”, and “childish”.

    But the original causative agent is “just exercising his freedom of speech”.

    Now it all makes sense.

    Nighty night. Think tomorrow will be any different? Naw, me neither.

  221. Sometimes growing up in Chicago you tend to learn the Constitution a little backwards, before you go to school. What 4 year old didn’t know the 5th Amendment “I refuse to answer that question on the grounds it may tend to incriminate me” who taught us Mob Guys at the perpetual trials-don’t try this at home I did does not work.
    re: Free Speech who taught us that the Neo-Nazi’s with their marches in Lincolnwood and Skokie-a court document would be filed to block the march, the judge would always rule in favor of Free Speech-the Chicago Police would go in riot gear to protect the Neo-Nazi’s -mainly from the veterans, children, grandchildren and other relatives and friends of Nazi persecution. All of Chicago and suburbs would cringe the entire time hoping no one would get hurt, Free Speech must be extended to all. I can’t count how many Nazi’s I got into it with in Chicago but started with George Lincoln Rockwell when I was very young-who was attempting to terrorize our Jewish customers who really were friends (many were Concentration camp survivors). I still can’t believe an American could be a Nazi much less put on any of their regalia.

  222. Aussie | January 23, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 10:19 pm |

    Paxson I happen to disagree with JBJD on this one. It is her personal opinion because she is pushing her own agenda
    ___________________________________________________
    Fair enough, did you read her opinion? It makes sense that they would so readily post it in that fashion on fightthesmears as paid political advertising not subject to real scrutiny. I’ll readily admit that I am a layman, but her argument about this particular issue was compelling and made sense from the perspective of CYA if you get caught.

  223. SSOB hit the nail on the head as far a carlyle is concerned.

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm |

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm |

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm |

    Having received emails regarding her posts, I know for certain that SSOB is who she says she is and she is well respected by CW. That is why I was so quick to respond affirmatively and favorably to the good constructive posts that she has made today.

    This intervention was long overdue. SSOB is correct. CW deserves our respect of his requests for HIS BLOG.

  224. Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 10:27 pm |
    Nighty night. Think tomorrow will be any different? Naw, me neither.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    It can be if you change your point of view with respect to this particular issue. But you have it in your mind that it won’t and on a daily basis your self fulfilling prophesy comes true. Also, I apologize for calling you “unhinged”, but your sole purpose has been to advocate for something that is never going to happen. CW said so. That means you have two choices, “let it go” or “just go”. I hope that you choose to “let it go” because I value your opinions, other than the negative ones that you have about me.

  225. Cabby – AZ | January 23, 2011 at 10:24 pm |

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 23, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
    Your efforts, no matter how well-meaning, are only serving to reinforce bad behavior by FS.

    ================================

    WOW – you turned out to be a prophet. I just read FS’s last post as I was closing down. Just amazing. This problem will just NOT go away without a “final solution”.

  226. Michelle | January 23, 2011 at 10:28 pm |

    I respectfully disagree. The 1st Amend. does not give anyone the right to harm others by HATE SPEECH or even RECKLESS SPEECH.

  227. Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Carlyle | January 23, 2011 at 10:27 pm |
    Nighty night. Think tomorrow will be any different? Naw, me neither.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    It can be if you change your point of view with respect to this particular issue. But you have it in your mind that it won’t and on a daily basis your self fulfilling prophesy comes true. Also, I apologize for calling you “unhinged”, but your sole purpose has been to advocate for something that is never going to happen. CW said so. That means you have two choices, “let it go” or “just go”.
    ———–

    Well Said.

  228. Free Speech @ 10:38 pm |
    “The 1st Amend. does not give anyone the right to harm others by HATE SPEECH or even RECKLESS SPEECH”
    You are correct and I do agree someday this may extend to us Tea Party members et al.

  229. BO is of the same mentality as Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Odinga and other mass murderers. If he is not brought to Justice many more good people will be murdered by the BO regime.

  230. When I first heard about this I thought what is this a soap-opera romance? but these folks brought some points I didn’t think of-how few less Dems there are remaining.
    http://www.breitbart.tv/congressman-doesnt-want-to-sit-with-dems-at-sotu/
    “They don’t want civility, they want silence from Republicans. The sitting together, being kissy-kissy is just another way to try to silence Republicans and also to keep the American people from seeing how few of them (Democrats) there are in the US House now. …When Barack Obama spews out all his venom, if they are scattered throughout all the Republicans, it won’t be as noticeable as if we were sitting apart” – Congressman Paul Broun (R-GA)

  231. Michelle | January 23, 2011 at 10:59 pm |

    Of course it is just about silencing their enemies by whatever means just as the obots here try to silence those they are afraid of.

  232. It is so much more pleasant and informative when the obots are not here disrupting with their incessant personal attacks.

  233. Free Speech

    If BHO’s real legal name right now is Barry Soetoro would that make him ineligible to be president and all the bills he has signed nil & void?

  234. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 11:07 pm |
    It is so much more pleasant and informative when the obots are not here disrupting with their incessant personal attacks.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    FS, they aren’t obots and for the sake of the discourse on this blog I hope that you take to heart what SSO has said and tone it down a little bit. All of you guys can do what you want, but I think that CW himself has made a plea to end it. Certainly you can see this to be true.

    I had a pit in my stomach when I read SSO’s first post today about this. Please do your part to change the way that you interface with the people who have a problem with the way that you choose to communicate. Some people have thicker skin than others and aren’t able to process things the same way.

  235. Ginger | January 23, 2011 at 11:10 pm |

    Correct and there is no evidence that BO ever had his name legally changed from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.

  236. Paxson,

    I have more than done my part. I have been personally attacked for months by the obots and I am tired of it. I will not submit to personal attacks. As long as the obots are not attacking me personally then I ignore them which is what I agreed to do in my email response.

  237. DUH How did I miss this? ONE MILLION DOLLAR REWARD for the True Birth Certificate-as opposed to frauds, internet repo’s etc.-I can’t collect haven’t seen anything legit yet.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/02/obamas-birth-certificate-million-reward.html
    Obama’s Birth Certificate- million $ reward – time to re-post this
    HINT FOR REWARD HUNTERS: If Obama was born in Kenya his birth certificate might be on record in England since Kenya was a part of the British empire when Obama was born. The birth certificate might also be on file in Kenya. One million dollars should inspire some government employee to start looking.
    Since the media is starting to turn toward a factual reporting on Obama it seemed appropriate to re-post the reward offer.
    Secret of the Rosary Films is offering a one million dollar reward for the certified long-form birth certificate of Barack Obama.
    The long-form birth certificate must be certified by the U.S. Supreme Court.
    Long form birth certificates are exact photocopies of the original birth record that was prepared by the hospital or attending physician at the time of the child’s birth.
    The long form usually includes parents’ information such as address of residence, race, birth place, date of birth — and additional information on the child’s birthplace, and information on the doctors that assisted in the birth of the child. The long form also usually includes the signature of the doctor involved and at least one of the parents.
    When Hawaii became a state in 1959, there were many people who resided there who did not have a birth certificate. From 1911 to 1972, in Hawaii a person — over the age of one — whose birth was not registered — could apply for a short form birth certificate in Hawaii.
    Obamas Kenyan grandmother stated he was born in Kenya. However, Obamas mother or grandmother probably filed an affidavit stating that Obama was born in Hawaii and the state of Hawaii issued the kind of short form certificate posted on the Obamas Web site.
    This is the reason why Obama has not released a long form Hawaiian birth certificate.

  238. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 11:22 pm |
    Paxson,

    I have more than done my part. I have been personally attacked for months by the obots and I am tired of it. I will not submit to personal attacks. As long as the obots are not attacking me personally then I ignore them which is what I agreed to do in my email response.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    I will agree that some people have become obsessed by you. In fact you are just one more person on this blog stating your opinions, that are no more or less valuable than others outside of your legal expertise. Just for a while, try to be more cognizant of the fact that you are a lightening rod to some and choose to “bite your tongue” with some of your more colorful retorts. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t defend yourself.

    Also, the term obot is very loaded and offensive word. If you overuse it, when a true obot comes into the fold it is less meaningful.

  239. Michelle | January 23, 2011 at 11:28 pm |
    If Obama was born in Kenya his birth certificate might be on record in England since Kenya was a part of the British empire when Obama was born.
    ========================================
    Michelle,
    England may already have a copy of the Kenya birth certificate so they know Obama is not a NBC and the stuff is about to hit the fan. And that is the reason why the Obama’s weren’t invited to Charles’ wedding in April. 🙂

  240. Paxson,

    If you want to believe, despite clear evidence otherwise, that there are no BO obots who have posted here that is your business, but don’t expect me to agree with you.

  241. Free Speech | January 23, 2011 at 11:59 pm |
    Paxson,

    If you want to believe, despite clear evidence otherwise, that there are no BO obots who have posted here that is your business, but don’t expect me to agree with you.
    ——————————————————————————————-
    I absolutely believe that we have had obots in here disrupting things in the past, we have to out those people. However, I just don’t believe that the people in question are obots. You can choose to communicate in any fashion that you see fit, but I’m just making a personal plea for you to tone it down with that segment of people who have made it their life’s work to agitate you for the sake of the discourse and CW. There is no doubt about the way that you and a select few feel about each other. It doesn’t serve any more purpose to relay those feelings any longer, either you or them. That is all.

  242. Anne Marie,

    Thank you for the compliment. I have no intentions of leaving. Citizenwells site is blessing for me. This is where I hang my political heart.

    In the spirit of free speech every one gets to say his/her mind regardless of it being popular. While I believe in doing more of what works and less of what doesn’t, I don’t believe it is my place to criticize what other posters say or do as I am merely a grateful guest visiting CW’s website.

    I often feel the visitors who post here must be as frustrated as I am with the poliltical cluster flock. That is why they snipe at each other.It is harmless though somewhat counter productive.

    Right now we need to stay focused upon removing a criminal from office.

    Bob Straus,

    Yes, I saw those states on Orly’s site. That may very well prevent Barry from running. Ideally, I would like to to be removed from office YESTERDAY because he day he remains in office is a day America loses a little more freedom and her sovereignty. The sooner he is out of office, the sooner we can begin the long and painful process of healing and recovery.

  243. USA Patriot. You are right. I shouldn’t have interjected myself. But it has been getting out of hand. I apologize if I over stepped.

  244. Acres of acorns on this site!

  245. Aussie | January 23, 2011 at 10:22 pm |

    Paxson | January 23, 2011 at 10:19 pm |

    Paxson I happen to disagree with jbjd on this one. It is her personal opinion because she is pushing her own agenda

    “Personal opinion”? “Agenda”? On the contrary, I am quoting the applicable sections of the U.S. Code and correlating the wording in these sections of the Code to the accreditations in the footer of the FTS web site. For example, once Obama became the President-elect, the footer in FTS was changed to this:

    Paid for by Organizing for America, A Project of the Democratic National Committee, 430 South Capital Street SE,Washington, D.C., 20003. THIS COMMUNICATION IS NOT AUTHORIZED BY ANY CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATE’S COMMITTEE

    The wording in the ad comes directly from the U.S. Code CHAPTER 14—FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGNS, §441d. Publication and distribution of statements and solicitations, (a) Identification of funding and authorizing sources, (3) if not authorized by a candidate, an authorized political committee of a candidate, or its agents, shall clearly state the name and permanent street address, telephone number, or World Wide Web address of the person who paid for the communication and state that the communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.

    DE-CODER RINGS (1 of 2) and DE-CODER RINGS (2 of 2)

  246. When one makes a Revolution, one cannot mark time; one must always go forward — or go back. He who now talks about the freedom of the press goes backward, and halts our headlong course towards Socialism.

    Lenin

  247. Please call Rep. Cantor’s office now to discuss his comments from yesterdays Meet the Press interview. I called and tried to be nice…the phone talker was hostile, short and irate.

    The Meet the Press interview could be summed up as Cantor blew off the eligibility question and said, Quote, “I believe Obama a U.S. citizen.”

    This indicates they are getting a lot of calls and they need MORE, So please call or fax today and report on how it went:

    Washington, DC
    303 Cannon Building
    Washington, DC 20515
    P: 202.225-2815
    F: 202.225-0011

    Richmond
    4201 Dominion Blvd, #110
    Glen Allen, VA 23060
    P: 804.747-4073
    F: 804.747-5308

    Culpeper
    763 Madison Rd #207
    Culpeper, VA 22701
    P: 540.825-8960
    F: 540.825-8964

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