Abercrombie Orwellian lies and misinformation, Setup for mainstream media, Tell the big lie and repeat it

 Abercrombie Orwellian lies and misinformation, Setup for mainstream media, Tell the big lie and repeat it

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”…Joseph Goebbels

When Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie stated a few weeks ago that he intended to research and locate Obama’s birth certificate, it was clear what his motivation was. To provide another Orwellian platform for lies and misinformation. The Hawaii law regarding the release of a birth certificate is also clear and Abercrombie knew it.

From Citizen Wells December 24, 2010.

“Things we can depend on from the left. The end justifies the means. Orwellian lies as the means. And corruption. Two of the most corrupt states in the country, Illinois and Hawaii and Obama is closely tied to both states and their corruption.

Neil Abercrombie the newly elected Democrat Governor of Hawaii, is fast becoming the new Orwellian spokesperson for the Obama camp and the left. The LA Times, which did some honest reporting on Obama early in 2008, follows the Orwellian Pied Piper and regurgitates falsehoods from Abercrombie, FactCheck.org and other Obama mouthpieces.

“For Hawaii governor, discrediting anti-Obama ‘birthers’ is a top priority”

“Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961, and he has been aggravated by the so-called birther movement, which alleges Obama was not born in the United States and thus should be expelled from office.””

Let’s examine the first piece of Orwellian spin by Abercrombie (with the help of the LA Times).

“Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961″

My response:

People in Kenya knew Obama’s parents, so he must have been born there, applying that logic.

Second.

“Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ “

My Response:

I was here when that baby was born. Does that mean Obama was born in NC?

Duh!

Third.

“That June, the Obama campaign released a certificate of live birth, an official document from the Hawaii Health Department certifying the facts of a person’s birth, as proof of his birthplace.”

My response:

First of all, the COLB posted on the internet is a certification not certificate. The one posted on the internet was never validated as having been issued by the state of Hawaii. And even if it had been, a HI COLB does not prove birth in Hawaii. It is as Lou Dobbs stated, a document that refers to another document.

Fourth.

“Investigations by two prominent fact-checking organizations, PolitiFact and FactCheck.org, concluded that the certificate was authentic.”

My response:

Would you trust securing the office of the presidency and upholding the US Constitution to these two FactCheck.org employees?

Fifth.

“FactCheck also turned up a 1961 birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser marking the birth of a son to “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama of Kalanianaole Hwy.””

My response:

Once again, we have more proof that a birth occurred, but not where.

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/neil-abercrombie-big-brother-spokesman-orwellian-speak-hawaii-corruption-much-like-illinois-corruption-obama-tied-to-both-states/

As expected and planned, the mainstream media feeds off of the Orwellian speak.

From Citizen Wells December 28, 2010.

“Chris Matthews interviewed Clarence Page and  David Corn regarding Neil Abercrombie’s recent remarks about Obama and his birth certificate. If you are really paying attention, you realize that Abercrombie made those statements to provide a forum for the Orwellian Big Brotherhood of the mainstream media to continue to spread their lies about Obama and his eligibility issues. There is no bigger liar on this subject than Chris Matthews. However, Page and Corn proved yesterday that they are strong competitors.”

“Matthews: “i am not a birther. i am an enemy of the birthers.””

“Page: “President’s got more important things to do, thank goodness. Governor Abercrombie says that because he was a classmate of obama’s parents. He is tired of people accusing his parents. He wants to try to put this to rest. Of course, it won’t work because the birthers aren’t interested in evidence that obama was born a u.s. citizen. They only want to hear evidence that he was not. That’s not going to happen.”

My response: If Obama is not eligible, he is not president. What does Abercrombie being in Hawaii and being friends with Obama’s parents have to do with proof Obama was born there? And who is accusing Obama’s parents of anything? Not wanting evidence of Obama’s US birth? That is all we have been trying to get for over 2 years. And once again, it is not Obama’s US Citizenship that is in question, it is his natural born citizen status.”

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/chris-matthews-enemy-of-birthers-enemy-of-constitution-enemy-of-american-people-abercrombie-mathews-page-corn-lies-lies-and-more-lies/

To make matters worse, Megyn Kelly on Fox News joined in the Orwellian cacophany of caustic comments in this disgusting unfair and unbalanced interview.

From Citizen Wells January 2, 2011.

“I held off of letting Megyn Kelly have it until yesterday even though she had made some stupid, uninformed comments about the Obama eligibility issues. She was undoubtedly influenced by the pontificating, bloviator Bill O’Reilly. She crossed the line a few days ago when she interviewed two biased and uninformed panelists regarding the Governor Neil Abercrombie remarks about Obama’s birth and birth certificate.

First of all, Fox News touts being “fair and balanced.” This show was one of the most unfair and unbalanced that I have viewed. It almost gave MSNBC credibility. The guests were:

Dan Gerstein, president of Gotham Ghostwriters, a Democrat Strategist and clearly a Orwellian spin meister for Obama.

Rich Lowry, editor of the National review. All he did was regurgitate the standard lines from the left.

Not only did Megyn Kelly not ask probing journalistic questions such as:

 Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?

Isn’t Obama ineligible due to not being a natural born citizen? His father was Kenyan/British. The founding fathers had to be grandfathered in to be eligible. Senate resolution 511 stated that McCain had 2 US Citizen parents.

The Certification of Live birth, COLB, placed on the internet. Do we have proof it was issued by the state of Hawaii? Isn’t the COLB, as Lou Dobbs stated, just a piece of paper that refers to another piece of paper? Is it possible to get a COLB and not be born in Hawaii?

There are obviously more questions that could be asked. Not only did Megyn Kelly not ask real questions, she joined in the “feeding frenzy” and lent credence to comments made by her biased panelists. This was one of the more disgusting displays I have ever witnessed on TV!”

Read more:

https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/01/02/megyn-kelly-neil-abercrombie-panel-biased-and-uninformed-fox-news-fair-balanced-fox-biased-boobs-on-news-shows/

So now Abercrombie can’t access the mythical birth certificate of Obama. We knew that over 2 years ago.

From the Associated Presss January 21, 2011.

“A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Barack Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says.

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. “Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.”

Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama’s parents and knew him as a child, launched an investigation last month into whether he can release more information about the president’s Aug. 4, 1961 birth. The governor said at the time he was bothered by people who questioned Obama’s birthplace for political reasons.

But Abercrombie’s attempt reached a dead end when Louie told him the law restricted his options.

Hawaii’s privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn’t have a tangible interest.”

Read more:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJD1AUmFV0f0ZjUdfkw-1m7Xm8EQ?docId=5aea898abc754aa6a82a99e17b21abe3

Abercrombie finished what he set out to do. To insult, with the aid of the mainstream media, including Fox News, anyone questioning Obama’s eligibility. To state the obvious one more time, Obama, at any time, by law, could release a legitimate birth certificate, if he has one.

169 responses to “Abercrombie Orwellian lies and misinformation, Setup for mainstream media, Tell the big lie and repeat it

  1. Folks, we need to understand that the more we WANT something to evolve to cement out confirmation the Obama is a plant by the powers to be to finish off our great country as the exception , the better off we can deal with this puppet………GE, all the banks amd investment company bailed out and his insistence that we need to invest in jobs here are contrdictions what this administration says and then does. I work for a major railroad and we wil be in the same line as other crafts and companies that are targets that the admin is trying to CAP AND TRADE our future away….Something has to done before we are looking at each other and saying” DAMN IT” My kids will suffer like I have never had too”

  2. CW – Regarding your comment –

    “I held off of letting Megyn Kelly have it until yesterday even though she had made some stupid, uninformed comments about the Obama eligibility issues. She was undoubtedly influenced by the pontificating, bloviator Bill O’Reilly. She crossed the line a few days ago when she interviewed two biased and uninformed panelists regarding the Governor Neil Abercrombie remarks about Obama’s birth and birth certificate.”

    You realize of course it is ALL ABOUT RATINGS and O’Reilly has an EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW with the USURPER during the pregame Super Bowl on Fox. The Media Whores are running amuk.

    http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/06/bill-oreilly-to-interview-president-obama/

    PS – I will repeat – To know a crime is being committed and do nothing about it, IS A CRIME.

  3. Thanks Citizen Wells for pulling like minded people together

  4. Mike…Don’t worry. There is much going on out here. The Tea Patriots will not allow Cap N Trade to happen. We have your back.

  5. Thanks.
    You are welcome.

  6. The bottom line on reviewing the original but sealed BC is to assess the eligibility requirement as constitutionally mandated as being a NBC. That in itself is not the be all end all as it is only a basis for protection from an otherwise covert actor. The founders discussed such people when discussing citizenship rules the new congress should apply or have incorporated in the new constitution. Joseph Story elaborates to some extent on this; http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a2_1_5s2.html

    Further we might wish to understand the desirability and purpose of immigration and the influences of foreigners on children born to a citizen parent. There are volumes of discussion and all take account of the great importance we place on citizenship. So great is that importance that it can not be underestimated the effect a person so desirous of a title in this nation might acquire wrongly or deviously let alone offered by a subdued or malicious congressional majority. http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a1_8_4_citizenship.html

    That we had concurrent majorities in both houses combined with a corporate media invested in the same party it can not be ignored that the emergence of an unknown and unverified candidate to the highest office should be immediately positioned before the supreme court by the minority and be allowed to be heard in defense of the constitution where the other branches obviously would be invested otherwise. That the SC has refused, conspicuously with the aid of a clerk now sitting on the same court, should bring about the next line of defense, the desire for a peaceful solution engaged by force if necessary to the extent require to test the violation in open court before the entire public. That we have a standing military threat between the people and their law is remarkable only in that it has already jailed one of its officers for merely demanding a documentation of the purported commanders qualifications. Now, I would say we are under a military coup as well as a government coup. Short of any continuing move to resolve the issue openly it would be wise for the minor party to prepare for calamity and oppression as such is historically the next move by a usurpation in the face of opposition. I shouldn’t even mention the fact that there are indications of the ideology being raised above our constitution should cause the greatest alarm simply due to the mounds of dead and dispossessed it has left in it’s wake world wide.

  7. Mike | January 22, 2011 at 9:17 am |
    Folks, we need to understand that the more we WANT something to evolve to cement out confirmation the Obama is a plant by the powers to be to finish off our great country as the exception , the better off we can deal with this puppet………GE, all the banks amd investment company bailed out and his insistence that we need to invest in jobs here are contrdictions what this administration says and then does. I work for a major railroad and we wil be in the same line as other crafts and companies that are targets that the admin is trying to CAP AND TRADE our future away….Something has to done before we are looking at each other and saying” DAMN IT” My kids will suffer like I have never had too”

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    Yes the most hideous thing about the demonic BO is that he is enslaving our Children for generations.

  8. OT, but it IS the anniversary: (and just why we and the world are seemingly going to hell faster every day)

    January 22, 2011
    Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court’s Dumbest Decision

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/roe_v_wade_the_supreme_courts.html
    __________________________________________________

    And, as the warning from Mother Theresa mentioned – “abortion brings war”:
    China: Danger Before the Doom?

    Will China act militarily to secure its place as a great power more quickly, given the demographic crisis it faces in just twenty years?

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/china_danger_before_the_doom.html

  9. CW..Per The Denver Post today (denverpost.com), Governor Abercrombie ends his quest to release BC of Obama, stating it is against state law to release private records.

  10. Thanks gang….. I work midnights and look forward to the great people that are way ahead of the mainstream of crap coming from the naysayers….To each Patriot, I look forward to meshing our thoughts with other like minded people to solidify our position in ideas to take our great country back and remind those who think others can do the work and agree with us….I really dont give a crap if they want to take my USAF retiement away as punishment….I want my country back and not this freaking sound bite crap we have all endured since this onslaught by the Left….Those here no the oath I took to serve and protect our country for the 20 years I served..Service doesn’t end at retirement……God bless all here and those who choose to take the reigns to isolate this admin in their destruction of our great way of life! I am a patriot first, conservative second, and a repub third and have not or will not deviate from this course! Thanks again FS, Amy and CW

  11. The new governor knew that all along. What a liar!

  12. Mike.. TY for your service to our country….

  13. The Governor’s comment that the issue must be resolved before the 2012 election remains hanging out there with no resolution….

  14. Bill G… Hopefully, More states will require that the 2012 presidential candidates show their birth certificates before their names can be placed on their ballots.

  15. Amy 10:25am

    Do we know how many states have enacted a BC law? How many states have pending legislation? We need to move forward as fast as we can..

  16. Thistle,

    You posted to me on the previous thread?

    I’m here….

  17. hapnHal.. As of november of 2010, 4 states had bills pending with the BC requirement. They are Arizona, Texas, Pa, and Georgia.. I don’t know what their status is. If anyone else knows,please respond.. I agree with you hapnHal, we need to push this..It may be the ONLY way to put a stop to this mess.

  18. hapnHal | January 22, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    Amy 10:25am

    Do we know how many states have enacted a BC law? How many states have pending legislation? We need to move forward as fast as we can..

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    I agree.

  19. “Was Abercrombie’s “Quest” for Obama’s Long-Form Birth Certificate Staged?”

    Was Abercrombie’s “Quest” for Obama’s Long-Form Birth Certificate Staged?


    ======================
    “The Hawaii Comedy Show”

    The Hawaii Comedy Show

  20. Mike | January 22, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    Thanks gang….. I work midnights and look forward to the great people that are way ahead of the mainstream of crap coming from the naysayers….To each Patriot, I look forward to meshing our thoughts with other like minded people to solidify our position in ideas to take our great country back and remind those who think others can do the work and agree with us
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    Glad you are here.

  21. Obama Named Leader Of The New World Order By The Bilderbergs According To Jack Van Impe

  22. BO committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. BO should be immediately indicted for fraud.

  23. Obama’s Sister Maya Soetoro’s Long Form Vault Birth Certificate From Indonesia, Has Hawaii COLB Just Like Barack.
    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/12/29/breaking-obamas-sister-maya-soetoros-long-form-vault-birth-certificate-from-indonesia-has-hawaii-colb-just-like-barack/

  24. The Obama File:

    “Where Was Obama Born?”

    http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/Hospitals.htm

  25. amy | January 22, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    The new governor knew that all along. What a liar!

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    amy | January 22, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    The new governor knew that all along. What a liar!
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    Abercrombie has now set the stage for BO to release his expertly forged BC. Remember that mythical BC that BO falsely alleged that he had in dreams of my father? Don’t be surprised if he announces that he is going to release it in his interview with O’Reilly before the Super Bowl.

  26. Have you read this?

    Judge John Roll Was a Hero: Why Didn’t We Know This?

    Federal Judge John Roll was killed in Tucson trying to save another man’s life. As soon as madman Jared Lee Loughner finished his attempt to murder Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, he turned his gun on the people to his left, then the people to his right. Recently released video shows his first target to the right was Ron Barber, Gifford’s district director, who was standing next to Justice John Roll………
    Read more:
    http://townhall.com/columnists/SandyRios/2011/01/21/judge_john_roll_was_a_hero_why_didnt_we_know_this

  27. Obama became the Senator of Illinois by Releasing Jack Ryan’s Sealed Private Records concerning his Divorce with Jeri Ryan (Seven of Nine from Star Trek Voyager). Jack Ryan was so ashamed that Obama Released his PRIVATE information to the Chicago Newspapers, that he Dropped out of the race leaving no one to Challenge Obama. Obama was Handed the Senate Seat on a Silver Platter. Right now we can get any Birth Certificate for Any President or Presidential Candidate with a Freedom of Information Act Request EXCEPT for Obama’s. Funny how PRIVACY only exists for Progressives but doesn’t exist for any one else.

  28. Orly Taitz’s site has the update on states bills for eligibility.

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

  29. Emudude | January 22, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    Obama became the Senator of Illinois by Releasing Jack Ryan’s Sealed Private Records concerning his Divorce with Jeri Ryan (Seven of Nine from Star Trek Voyager). Jack Ryan was so ashamed that Obama Released his PRIVATE information to the Chicago Newspapers, that he Dropped out of the race leaving no one to Challenge Obama. Obama was Handed the Senate Seat on a Silver Platter. Right now we can get any Birth Certificate for Any President or Presidential Candidate with a Freedom of Information Act Request EXCEPT for Obama’s. Funny how PRIVACY only exists for Progressives but doesn’t exist for any one else.
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    Emu, this very strange, I was just contemplating the same thing and was going to post something about it. Didn’t the court say that the public’s interest outweighed Ryan’s right to privacy, even though the records were sealed?

  30. Paxson,

    I’m sure it Probably did. Remember that even though Illinois is a big state, the Main Political Center of it is Chicago. Even though Chicago is not the Capitol of Illinois, it might as well be. Every Political decision for Illinois is made there. That Said, Chicago is the probably Most Corrupt City in the United States thanks to the likes of Obama, the Daley’s, Rahm Emmanuel and all the Other Dirty Politicians from there who are also turning our White House into the Dirty Brown House. The Courts in Chicago are Just as bad as the Politicians that Put them there. (Kinda like Sotomeyer and Keagan in the Supreme Court).

  31. According to orlytaitz site, there are several states that have filed the BC eligibility requirement with majority republicans expecting topass. They are Texas, Georgia, Mo., Mt., and PA. Arizona is refiling and is expected to pass, along with others who are nor under republican control…. This is great news.. We need to keep pushing this effort and the governors to sign the BC bills

  32. correction: nor is now

  33. Emudude | January 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
    Paxson,

    I’m sure it Probably did. Remember that even though Illinois is a big state, the Main Political Center of it is Chicago. Even though Chicago is not the Capitol of Illinois, it might as well be. Every Political decision for Illinois is made there. That Said, Chicago is the probably Most Corrupt City in the United States thanks to the likes of Obama, the Daley’s, Rahm Emmanuel and all the Other Dirty Politicians from there who are also turning our White House into the Dirty Brown House. The Courts in Chicago are Just as bad as the Politicians that Put them there. (Kinda like Sotomeyer and Keagan in the Supreme Court).
    _________________________________________________

    Oh, the irony.

  34. Not so long ago, most reporters would ask the question: In your 2004 Senate Race you advocated that Jack Ryan release his divorce records that were sealed. Now you won’t release a simple copy of your birth records from the State of Hawaii? What are you trying to hide and how does this differ from your 2004 position with respect to the public’s right to know?

  35. thistle,

    Just reread your post on the previous thread. Either a) you had a question for me; or b) you were calling me an ‘ignoranus.’

    Which is it, thistle?

  36. It could not be more obvious that the obots are setting us up for the release of BO’s expertly forged BC. BO will not be on the ballot in several States unless he releases the forged BC that he has had expert forgers curing for the past 2 years.

    Abercrombie has now set the stage for BO to release his expertly forged BC. Remember that mythical BC that BO falsely alleged that he had in dreams of my father? Don’t be surprised if he announces that he is going to release it in his interview with O’Reilly before the Super Bowl.

  37. The Washington Post doesn’t even try to hide the fact that they are actually political activists and not a news organization…..and the left is concerned about Citizen’s United. The farce that is our political and media establishment along with all of their trappings is amazing.

    http://bigjournalism.com/taylorking/2011/01/22/washington-post-organizes-news-boycott-of-sarah-palin-starts-twitter-campaign-against-gop-star/

  38. From the Associated Presss January 21, 2011.

    Hawaii’s privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn’t have a tangible interest.”
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    What they fail to tell anyone is, Hawaii can release the information on the certificate, but not a certified copy of the birth certificate.

    Also need a Hawaii UIPA request concerning attorney David Louie’s opinion, that Obama’s information can’t be released. Hawaii law has three provisions that allow the release of Obama’s information, under certain conditions. (See misstickly’s blog, and the Hawaii law)

  39. Thanks alot for fighting for the truth. Has anyone called Kenya? James Orengo claims he was born there.

  40. Misstickly is already on the case.
    http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/01/

  41. LM,

    There is NO PROOF that Maya Soetoro has a COLB like Barack’s. There is No Image on the web at all. Just a bunch of People that are Stating that she has one. Leo Dinofrio debunked this a while ago. My Brother was born at the Army Base in Honolulu Hawaii one month after Obama (September 11, 1961). He recently requested his Birth Certificate from Hawaii Department of Health. What he got in the Mail was 2 COLB’s that looked Almost exactly like the one Posted for Obama. I believe that Obama was Registered in Hawaii after his Birth (still unknown, but I believe in Kenya due to the 2 other Kenyan Birth Documents for him as well as statements from the Kenyan Government stating that he was Born there and from his Kenyan Grandma and other Kenyan Family Members). A Nurse from Hawaii Called the Neal Boortz show last week and stated that a Woman can walk into a Hospital in Hawaii with a Child claiming he was born at Home and be Issued a COLB for him. This is why I think the COLB for Obama is REAL. It still doesn’t Prove he was Born in Hawaii. It Just Proves he was Born. That is why this is still and Issue.

  42. Emudude @ 11:41 am |
    “Obama became the Senator of Illinois by Releasing Jack Ryan’s Sealed Private Records ” this never made sense to me, the records were sealed for the sake of a minor, small child and were private. More hypocrisy and then some. Not only is Jeri Ryan gorgeous but very brilliant too.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ryan
    She graduated from Lone Oak High School in 1986 (as a National Merit Scholar), and then attended Northwestern University, where she was a member of the Alpha Phi sorority.

  43. To clarify what I said above. I’m sure that Hawaii has Officially issued Obama a COLB if not in 1961, then in 2008 just to make it Official that he was registered in Hawaii. That is why Hawaii will just tell you it is Real, and why Every Member of Government will say the same. Remember his Selective Service Card was registered in September 9, 2008 to make it look like it was registered in 1980 using a Post 1993 Selective Service Card form with at Pre 1973 Postage Stamp.

  44. Michelle,

    I am a fan of Jeri Ryan and am aware of her Brilliance as an Actress and a Person. I find Obama to be a disgusting piece of human trash on a Variety of Levels and cannot see how ANYONE can be enamored with him unless they are purposefully totally Ignorant of him. Most of his Followers refuse to listen to any truth about him and only follow what they say about him in the controlled media. I now count Fox News in this category thanks to Megan Kelly, Bill O’Rielly, and Glen Beck. I Like what Glen Beck talks about most of the time, but I disagree with him on Obama’s Eligibility. All of Congress is still Carrying Obama’s Water on this or Just Being Quiet hoping that Obama Self Destructs himself like he is self destructing the Democrat Party. I seems to me that the Republicans are also self destructing themselves too. I.E. John McCain stating that Obama is a Patriot. Sarah Palin ought to cut ties to him and speak against him.

  45. Emudude @ 11:41 am |
    “Obama became the Senator of Illinois by Releasing Jack Ryan’s Sealed Private Records ” this never made sense to me, the records were sealed for the sake of a minor, small child and were private. More hypocrisy and then some. Not only is Jeri Ryan gorgeous but very brilliant too.
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    It is despicable that BO would do that to an innocent child.

  46. Emudude @ 11:41 am |
    “Obama became the Senator of Illinois by Releasing Jack Ryan’s Sealed Private Records ” this never made sense to me, the records were sealed for the sake of a minor, small child and were private. More hypocrisy and then some. Not only is Jeri Ryan gorgeous but very brilliant too.
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    Well Stated.

    I recall mccain saying that bo was a “citizen and a family man,” but I didn’t know that he called him a “patriot.”

    mccain lost the election when he made the bo is “citizen and a family man ” statement. I stopped working for mccain the day I heard him tell that lie.

  47. We can see the the Whore media and Politicians do not care what happens to the Country ,because they are apart of it. They are stealing us blind and raping us and they think that it’s OK to sell our Country to foreign entities. Guess what? History repeats itself. They will be the first ones the thief’s take out ,because they can not be trusted. Just look what they are doing. Look at Society today from when are parents grew up. Men where actual men. Women where women. All we see on TV now is glorifying Hollywood stars going to jail and now its a good thing. Drugs and sex. No more self decency. Portraying murders as the glorified and the deceased as being the ones who deserved it. Gay’s now being glorified. I do not have a problem with gay individuals, however what does it have to do with everyday living. That is a private issue that belongs within your bedroom, just like it is private for me to keep in my bedroom. We are all human beings but with different views but should not be shoved down our throats. Our Country has been turned upside down because of imbeciles like Obummer and the Marxist groups also Liberals. Its become a despicable country to live in. We now take out Christianity and degrade God because of select few , who do not believe. This Country was founded for all to practice their own religion. WHAT HAPPEN TO OUR COUNTRY????

  48. Part of a comment from another site made in reference to the ‘birther’ issue:

    “The economy and the constitution is what we need to be looking at right now.”
    ==========
    This person needs to look at the Constitutional eligibility requirements for President.

  49. Mourning in America

    Target all of Obama’s opponents by engaging in the Big Lie technique refined by Hitler, which is to fabricate untruths, slanders, malicious gossip, and outright lies—yes, blood libels—against all opposition.

    Accuse the opposition of the vitriol and duplicity they themselves routinely engage in. If there is one thing that embodies leftist pathology, it is the psychological defense mechanism of projection, where a person ascribes his or her own attributes, thoughts and emotions to other people.

    ■Obama on ACORN supporters: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
    ■Obama to supporters: “Hit Back—Twice as hard”
    ■Obama at a Philadelphia fundraiser two years ago how to deal with Republicans: “They Bring a Knife—We Bring a Gun.”
    ■Obama to his followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
    ■Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks…so I know whose ##### to kick.”
    ■Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand-to-hand combat.”
    ■Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
    ■Obama to Democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

  50. I GOT ONE QUESTION.

    HOW THE HELL CAN TERRY LAKIN BE KEPT IN PRISON ONE MORE MINUTE IN VIEW OF THE ABERCROMBIE EVENTS?????

  51. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    In case you haven’t figured it out (and I am sure most of you have) McCain always built up The Won in his speeches because McCain was hand picked as the Republican nominee with one purpose and one purpose only…to take the dive…to throw the election. The only smart, but surely accidental thing he did was to introduce Palin to the American public. I don’t support her for president, but she is a terrific patriot.

  52. A very good essay by Atty Mario Apuzzo.

    In Search of the Holy Grail of Documents — The Obama Birth Certificate
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/01/in-search-of-holy-grail-of-documents.html

  53. Great question Ted.

  54. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/company-bho-keeps.html

    As a brief summary, BHO campaigned for his Luo Tribe “cousin” Raila Odinga during Odinga’s campaign for President of Kenya.

    Despite BHO’s best efforts to incite mobs of disgruntled Odinga supporters, his “cousin” lost. Immediately thereafter, Odinga incited mobs to engage in violent riots throughout Kenya. Thousands of Kenyan Christians were maimed or killed by Odinga’s murderous mobs. Women and Children were burned alive in their Christian Churches. Tens of Thousands of Kenyan Christians were driven from the homes.

  55. I wanted to share this!Please take the time and listen and pass it on to everyone!!!

  56. Ted,
    Same thought and question came to my mind.Why is he not out????Especially with what has happened.Where are the attorneys on this one???

  57. At least ONE source is supportive of Obama on already having proven his Hawaiian birth: Iranian News Agency

    http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/161447.html

  58. http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    Remember Patriots, the case against Barack Hussein Obama will be over in Discovery, therefore, let us commence with Our Discovery of the Truth regarding the suspect commonly known to us Citizens as Barack Hussein Obama of unknown Citizenship, Allegiance and Alliances.

  59. He had the records of 2 different opponents UNsealed while running for office in Illinois. Blair Hull was the democrat opponent in the 2004 Illinois Senate race primaries and Jack Ryan was the opponent in the General election.

    Now we need some sweet Karma to come back and beat him at his own despicable game

  60. I said before, at least ONE source is supportive of Obama on already having proven his Hawaiian birth: Iranian News Agency

    http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/161447.html

    Actually, Team Obama can use the Iranian News analysis as its talking points.

  61. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/06/patriots-choice.html

    John Charlton gave a clear and concise statement of the Patriot’s Choice in his article regarding the latest legal maneuvers by BHO’s “justice” department lawyers in the Kerchner case, “It’s a simple choice then: the Constitution or tyranny; liberty or death!”

    If you think that lawyers, judges or congressmen are going to save our Republic, our Constitution, our Liberty, you are in for a rude awakening. As the boy said to the dead man in the movie, The Sixth Sense, ”the lawyers and judges are the ones doing the hangings.”

    At least, it is true that BHO’s lawyers and judges are lynching our Republic, destroying our Constitution, and killing our Liberty.

    I digress. Now back to Kerchner and the issue of standing. It was almost two years ago that I first wrote in The Steady Drip about the problems with standing in the cases against HBO. For a detailed analysis of the myriad problems with standing in the previously filed cases against BHO, please visit the following sites:

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    http://www.constitution.org/duepr/standing/winter_standing.htm

  62. Free Speech:–

    There WAS at least ONE case WITH CLEAR standing, Keyes et al v Obama et al

  63. How can they make this statement when in same article it says no one has been or is able to see any proof of this?:

    Hawaii’s health director said in 2008 and 2009 that she had seen and verified Obama’s original vital records, and birth notices in two Honolulu newspapers were published within days of Obama’s birth at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu.

    Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110122/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

    From Drudge now.

  64. HonorFirst | January 22, 2011 at 2:37 pm | He had the records of 2 different opponents UNsealed while running for office in Illinois. Blair Hull was the democrat opponent in the 2004 Illinois Senate race primaries and Jack Ryan was the opponent in the General election.

    Now we need some sweet Karma to come back and beat him at his own despicable game

    ————————————————
    This is how We the People can deliver that KARMA to BO:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  65. Just a question here,we know they are not going to release Barry’s papers no matter how hard anybody tries.Now,why hasn’t anybody try to go at a angle of his father being a Kenyan with Foreign allegiance???Both his parents have to be U.S Citizens with No Foreign or Domestic Allegiance.His father which Barry openly said his father is from Kenya.He holds dual citizenship which he can not hold the highest office.

    HISTORICAL BREAKTHROUGH – PROOF: CHESTER ARTHUR CONCEALED HE WAS A BRITISH SUBJECT AT BIRTH

  66. Ted | January 22, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Free Speech:–

    There WAS at least ONE case WITH CLEAR standing, Keyes et al v Obama et al

    ——————————
    IMHO, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/our-privilege-our-right-our-duty.html

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  67. “Abercrombie has now set the stage for BO to release his expertly forged BC. Remember that mythical BC that BO falsely alleged that he had in dreams of my father? Don’t be surprised if he announces that he is going to release it in his interview with O’Reilly before the Super Bowl.”

    OK, NOW we have something here. The very SECOND that barry opens his mouth and says that he will release, I want to see cameras and public citizens stationed right in the DOH office in Hawaii. No one makes it in or out until the ORIGINAL IN THE VAULT is formally opened and displayed.

    Nothing less, do you hear me barry? Nothing you have in your slimy little hands will satisfy me or any of the other great patriots of this country. I do NOT WANT to see what you have in your possession. It no longer matters. First off, we will examine the real paper, whatever it is, that was first recorded way back then. And then when it is proven that you do not have citizen parents and were not NBC, we will MARCH on you and take back the DC address that you have criminally obtained.

    And then, Neil? We’re coming for you next.


  68. Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”
    **********************************

    I have NO need to fabricate what I have told you here. Choose not to believe as suits your purpose and level of understanding about what and whom the citizens are confronting in merely asking questions about Hambama. Unlike you, I have actually stepped out from the protection of the crowd and alerted authorities.
    ***********************************************************

    Well Said, Lillibet!

    And thank you for exposing the FACT that carlyle, by his own admission, is fabricating what he posts on CW, i.e., Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

  69. citizenwells | January 22, 2011 at 9:38 am | thistle.
    I don’t always agree with Limbaugh although I probably agree
    90 – 95 % of the time.
    He presents documented facts and rational thought processes.

    ————————–
    Ditto!

  70. GBAmerican,

    Amazing & Great Video! Thank you so very much for posting this, GBAmerica!

    This video is so very glorious, so very faithful, & so very true!! : )!
    ALL Americans should watch this video & send this video to every American citizen everywhere far & wide!

    “WE NEED GOD IN AMERICA AGAIN”

  71. “HEARTS COURAGEOUS”
    ~ Jamie Owens Collins ~

  72. ‘THE BATTLE BELONGS TO THE LORD”

    ~~ Jamie Owens-Collins ~~

  73. BO & Odinga incite Riots in Kenya.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogPJVtsL-Y

    BO Follower threatens Conservative

    BO Follower Shabazz incites BO Followers to “Kill their babies.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN67KJdd6Mw

    Violent Plots of BO Mentor Bill Ayers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

    BO Union Thugs assault Black Conservative

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onov-nMMvlA

  74. “REJOYCE”
    ~~ Jamie Owens-Collins ~~

  75. Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 3:42 pm |

    Well Said, Lillibet! And thank you for exposing the FACT that carlyle, by his own admission, is fabricating what he posts on CW, i.e., Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

    ==============

    MAJOR MORON ALERT

    I don’t care if I am supposed to be “nicer” this week. I will not let this crap stand. This is how YOU (FS) started on your last downward spiral some months ago – misquoting and twisting what other people say.

    I was having a discussion with Aussie about the origin of a nickname I had given somebody.

    WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT TO ACCOMPLISH? HOW DARE YOU MAKE A BELLIGERENT UPROVOKED ATTACK DURING A TRUCE? BEEN TAKING LESSONS FROM THE PALESTINIANS?

  76. “WE SHALL STAND”
    ~ Jamie Owens-Collins ~

  77. Constitutionalist Judge John Roll may have been the REAL Target of Arizona gunman.

    Giffords Opposition to BHO regime

  78. Free Speech:–

    You entirely miss my point. Alan Keyes standing was NOT based on constitutional violation. It was based on simple tort — and Judge Carter was cornered.

  79. “HARD TIMES”

    ~ Jamie Owens-Collins ~

  80. “SHINE YOUR LIGHT”

    ~~ Jamie Owens-Collins ~~

  81. Ted | January 22, 2011


    IMHO, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/our-privilege-our-right-our-duty.html

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  82. A WARNING TO ENEMIES OF THE 1st and 2nd AMENDMENTS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDuss7e1GzY&feature=player_embedded

    ALEX JONES CALLS FOR GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNW0lkjTxAQ&feature=player_embedded

    Alex Jones on Arizona Killer Loughner

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQfJV_4OocU

  83. Sue K…..I was questioning your post on “Ignoramous” that directly followed mine. Was wondering if it was a response to me since I scrolled up to read other comments before mine and did not see any indication that you were posting to someone else’s comments. Was your post directed at me?

  84. to ca. patriot —- a forged birth certificate by obama will have to have two u. s. citizens parents listed on it in order for him to be a natural born citizen. just being born in hawaii is not enough. he would still be ineligible to be potus and c. i. c. it would be dumb for them to try forgery. he already committed fraud by putting a fake colb on the internet.

  85. “Follow The Bouncing Ball”

    “I was mulling over some of the little nitpicky things that people on both sides of the obama eligibility battle tend to get hung up on.

    On this COLB, this item that is the single, solitary piece of evidence of US birth that obama has released, we find something highly unusual:

    The “Father’s race” field indicates Obama Sr.’s race as “African”. This is one thing that almost every one agrees is most strange. Have YOU ever in your life seen or heard of a US birth certificate showing a parents race as the Continent of Africa? I didn’t think so. Africa is a continent consisting of many countries, it is not a race of people. If say, Obama Sr. would have DEMANDED in no uncertain terms that he wished to be coded as something other than Negro, which was the code in use in 1961, wouldn’t he have been more likely to demand “Kenyan”?”

    Follow The Bouncing Ball

  86. Hey CW. Maybe we could all pitch in for a psychiatrist for the blog.

  87. Free Speech:–

    The beauty of the Keyes case is it WAS NOT BASED ON CONSTITUTIONAL DERILICTION. IT WAS BASED ON TORT.
    Address THAT, stay on point.

  88. sheila | January 22, 2011 at 1:21 pm |

    Great post, Sheila, and 100% spot on. Thank you!

    I often wonder what happened, too; we have indeed changed, and not for the better. Those of us who hold on traditional values are looked at as ‘weird.’

    I’ll be weird all they want, but I won’t compromise my values for anyone. Ever.

  89. eddie h. .

    BO has already released a forged COLB and he has avoided being INDICTED for FRAUD so far.

    BO knows that the msm will cover for him again and he has experts who will testify that his BC is authenic. There is no doubt that he will release the forged BC that he has had expert forgers working on for the past 2 years in order to get on the ballot in all States. BO can not win even win the dem nomination if he can not get on the ballot in all States. Exclusion from the ballot in Texas or PA alone would sink his candidacy.

    As far as the FACT that he is not a NBC is concerned, BO has had all the civil cases against him rejected by SCOTUS so far. No doubt, BO thinks he can he can avoid having the civil cases against him adjudicated for another 2 years.

    http://politicalpistachio.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-birth-certificate-forgery.html

    Obama Birth Certificate Forgery

    In an effort to resolve this issue once and for all, the Obama Administration has put together a team tasked with producing a believable Hawaii Birth Certificate Forgery.

    Efforts to compel President Barack Obama to produce a valid birth certificate for the purpose of proving he is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States continue. Team Obama, however, has continually tried to dismiss the efforts as “garbage.” Barack Obama, however, is finding it more difficult to dismiss the question, and would like to be done with it once and for all. He was hoping the issue would simply die and go away, but the American People have refused to allow that to happen.

  90. Personally, I believe all the buttmunch/dispersants are sitting together in one rubber room drinking their NWO koolaid, high fiving, and laughing as they distract and smack down those who bring real info and insight to this discussion. I find their fear tactic, distractions, and bigotted remarks to be a tired and worn out response… atleast think of something new and make it a challenge for us who have been playing this game for a while. In conclusion… I follow the advise I give my boys… and quit pissing into the wind by responding.

  91. Ted | January 22, 2011

    I disagree with your interpretation of the Keyes case vis-a-vis all the rest of the eligibility cases.

    IMHO, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/our-privilege-our-right-our-duty.html

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  92. SueK @ 5:19 pm |
    “I’ll be weird all they want, but I won’t compromise my values for anyone. Ever”
    If it is weird to tell the truth, support our Constitutional Republic, our Constitution, WE THE PEOPLE then I’m weird too.
    First I report to a HIGHER AUTHORITY God Almighty Himself, then our Constitution “a good conscience is our only sure reward.”

  93. Prairie | January 22, 2011 at 5:26 pm | Personally, I believe all the buttmunch/dispersants are sitting together in one rubber room drinking their NWO koolaid, high fiving, and laughing as they distract and smack down those who bring real info and insight to this discussion. I find their fear tactic, distractions, and bigotted remarks to be a tired and worn out response… atleast think of something new and make it a challenge for us who have been playing this game for a while. In conclusion… I follow the advise I give my boys… and quit pissing into the wind by responding.

    ————————————————–
    Good advice, but the problem is as soon as the worst offenders are put in moderation more obots are sent to take their place. The BO regime must really be concerned about how effectively CW is getting the Truth out about BO for the regime to have so many obots disrupting here.

  94. These were the racial designations in South Africa under apartheid-I read about this originally in James Michener’s “The Covenant”.
    GORDO @ 5:09 pm |
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_under_apartheid
    National Party leaders argued that South Africa did not comprise a single nation, but was made up of four distinct racial groups: white, black, coloured, and Indian.

  95. Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 11:21 am |

    BO committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. BO should be immediately indicted for fraud.

    No fraud exists with relation to any information posted on the internet web site entitled, “Fight the Smears” where the FTS web site was clearly identified by its owners as being a campaign expenditure (political advertising) under the U.S. Code. DE-CODER RINGS 1 of 2 and 2 of 2

    I have been advising people for more than 2 (two) years now to ignore FTS as a focus of inquiry in the response to questions as to Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to be POTUS. In several posts on my blog, I have repeated, FTS was nothing more than paid political advertising. I have now posted 2 (two) more articles on the subject, this time correlating provisions of the U.S. Code to ‘statements’ in the ad, hoping this detailed analysis would, once and for all, unequivocally discredit the FTS site as a source of ‘real’ information in the inquiry into Obama’s Constitutional eligibility for POTUS, and finally divert your attention away from the electronic image and toward effecting real change in the electoral process.

    In my opinion, those people still urging focus on this discredited approach involving FTS are intentionally trying to thwart my more noble aspirations with respect to the electorate.

  96. Free Speech:–

    Are you saying there is no standing for TORT case of FRAUD against a pre-POTUS Obama by Alan Keyes in his case as an opposing candidate on the California POTUS ballot?

  97. thistle | January 22, 2011 at 4:42 pm |

    No, thistle, it certainly was not for you!

    I got a late e-mail from a friend whose daughter is in MENSA. Her group was directed to take a word, change one letter then, write a new definition..

    I thought the word ‘ignoranus’ and the definition they dreamed up was funny, so I posted it. Sometimes, we do need a giggle with all this garbage going on in America.

    In the spirit of this blog, I asked folks to ‘fill in the blank’ with their choice of person because I figured that most would say ‘Barky.’

    So no, not directed at you, in any way shape or form; to be honest, it was late and I hadn’t even read your post. Sorry for the confusion. It IS a good word, though, and a great definition. I think it suits the pResident to a ‘T.”

    🙂

  98. Ted | January 22, 2011

    You appear as a new to CW. If you had been around CW for a while you would know I do not engage in Straw Man/Red Herring debates.

    ————————————-

    IMHO, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/our-privilege-our-right-our-duty.html

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-

  99. jbjd | January 22, 2011

    As usual you are WRONG in your DEFENSE of BO.

    BO clearly committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii and your little loophole does not exonerate BO of said FRAUD.

  100. Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 6:15 pm |

    jbjd | January 22, 2011

    As usual you are WRONG in your DEFENSE of BO.

    BO clearly committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii and your little loophole does not exonerate BO of said FRAUD.

    Again, no explanation rooted in tenets of law; no rebuttal to the extensive legal analysis on my blog, only hyperbolic (read, BOLD and CAPS) rants of “you are WRONG.”

    This evidences the validity of my original critique of your continuing misdirection.

  101. Michelle | January 22, 2011 at 5:41 pm |

    Ok, Michelle…we’re both weird. But, you already knew I was weird 🙂

    I think most folks who read CW (other than the lurking moonbats) would be in agreement.

    I refuse to ‘change with the times’ if that change produces something of the caliber of what we’re experiencing now. Nope, refuse to go there…

  102. jbjd | January 22, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 11:21 am |

    BO committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. BO should be immediately indicted for fraud.

    No fraud exists with relation to any information posted on the internet web site entitled, “Fight the Smears” where the FTS web site was clearly identified by its owners as being a campaign expenditure (political advertising) under the U.S. Code. DE-CODER RINGS 1 of 2 and 2 of 2

    I have been advising people for more than 2 (two) years now to ignore FTS as a focus of inquiry in the response to questions as to Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to be POTUS. In several posts on my blog, I have repeated, FTS was nothing more than paid political advertising. I have now posted 2 (two) more articles on the subject, this time correlating provisions of the U.S. Code to ‘statements’ in the ad, hoping this detailed analysis would, once and for all, unequivocally discredit the FTS site as a source of ‘real’ information in the inquiry into Obama’s Constitutional eligibility for POTUS, and finally divert your attention away from the electronic image and toward effecting real change in the electoral process.

    In my opinion, those people still urging focus on this discredited approach involving FTS are intentionally trying to thwart my more noble aspirations with respect to the electorate.
    ________________________________________________
    jbjd, I admit that I buy into your well constructed arguments and while it may not be a “technical fraud” IT IS A FRAUD ON THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Sometimes the technicalities of the legal profession are a bunch of b.ll sh.t…. While I agree with your analysis, in my best layman’s perspective, and I appreciate all of your hard work and perspective…..at some point the legal “technicality” doesn’t mean much to the layman in the streets. It’s a load of cr.ap…

    It is up to our Congressional leaders to now expose the fraud. If they don’t do it, then they need to be voted out.

  103. Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 6:28 pm |

    jbjd, I admit that I buy into your well constructed arguments and while it may not be a “technical fraud” IT IS A FRAUD ON THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Sometimes the technicalities of the legal profession are a bunch of b.ll sh.t…. While I agree with your analysis, in my best layman’s perspective, and I appreciate all of your hard work and perspective…..at some point the legal “technicality” doesn’t mean much to the layman in the streets. It’s a load of cr.ap…

    It is up to our Congressional leaders to now expose the fraud. If they don’t do it, then they need to be voted out.

    FTS is now owned by the DNC and so, people can finally stop focusing on Obama for perpetuating ‘fraud.’ (As I have been saying for years, he did not personally fund the plan to steal the D nomination and install himself into the WH.) And once we figured out how this was done and reported the ballot fraud, how many A’sG from both major political parties have refused to act on these citizen complaints of election fraud, in states that require candidates to be qualified for office to appear on the ballot?

  104. JBJD, I was talking about the narrow aspect of posting the COLB on the “Fight The Smears” website, from your recent columns. I am not sure about the legal ramifications about running for the office when you know that you are ineligible.

  105. FS,
    You know I love ya, but don’t assume I am biting on your bait either. It is my belief that the Supreme Court is a supreme fraud and that Orly, Berg, Kreep, and many of the others have provided just enough theatre to keep the truth at bay. Call or write my congressman? Really… are you kidding me? I am not on the attack, just sick of the chit I am expected to swallow.

  106. jbjd | January 22, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 6:28 pm |

    jbjd, I admit that I buy into your well constructed arguments and while it may not be a “technical fraud” IT IS A FRAUD ON THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Sometimes the technicalities of the legal profession are a bunch of b.ll sh.t…. While I agree with your analysis, in my best layman’s perspective, and I appreciate all of your hard work and perspective…..at some point the legal “technicality” doesn’t mean much to the layman in the streets. It’s a load of cr.ap…

    It is up to our Congressional leaders to now expose the fraud. If they don’t do it, then they need to be voted out.

    FTS is now owned by the DNC and so, people can finally stop focusing on Obama for perpetuating ‘fraud.’ (As I have been saying for years, he did not personally fund the plan to steal the D nomination and install himself into the WH.) And once we figured out how this was done and reported the ballot fraud, how many A’sG from both major political parties have refused to act on these citizen complaints of election fraud, in states that require candidates to be qualified for office to appear on the ballot?
    ________________________________________________
    jbjd, as I said from my layman’s perspective I understand what you are saying. But could it fall under the RICO ACT? I am a layman. So please don’t mock.

  107. Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 5:10 pm |

    Hi Paxson,

    I’m in for a few bucks….

    The civility lasted less than 24 hours.

    …and around and around it goes….

  108. Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 6:44 pm |

    jbjd, I was talking about the narrow aspect of posting the COLB on the “Fight The Smears” website, from your recent columns. I am not sure about the legal ramifications about running for the office when you know that you are ineligible.

    Yes, the DNC now owns that image (which was based on a mock-up) of the COLB, and created as the focus of the ad campaign. Keep in mind, advertising copy in that FTS ad, only says Obama is a “native.” And no state law says Electors may only elect a Constitutionally eligible President, anyway.

  109. jbjd,
    If a non-citizen does not recieve the rights guaranteed under the Constitution, how could one be bound by it? What I am asking you, sorry if this has been answered before, but is Barry bound by our Constitution or laws at all if he is not a citizen?

  110. jbjd | January 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 6:44 pm |

    jbjd, I was talking about the narrow aspect of posting the COLB on the “Fight The Smears” website, from your recent columns. I am not sure about the legal ramifications about running for the office when you know that you are ineligible.

    Yes, the DNC now owns that image (which was based on a mock-up) of the COLB, and created as the focus of the ad campaign. Keep in mind, advertising copy in that FTS ad, only says Obama is a “native.” And no state law says Electors may only elect a Constitutionally eligible President, anyway.
    ___________________________________________________
    I hear you, but could it fall under the RICO ACT?

  111. SueK | January 22, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 5:10 pm |

    Hi Paxson,

    I’m in for a few bucks….

    The civility lasted less than 24 hours.

    …and around and around it goes….
    ____________________________________________________
    It’s just stupid. Believe me, I am far from perfect so I am not throwing stones…but I tried to make ammends where I could and agree to disagree where I couldn’t…Helen and I went rounds….now she is posting music for me…While I disagree with some of her stuff, I agree with her on the big stuff and I know that her heart is true, and to me that is the most important thing.

  112. To some people, it is all about them. In any subsection of society people strive for status. While there is nothing wrong with this, I’m not sure that it really fits into this movement. It is bigger than you, whoever you are (including me).

  113. O/t but more proof that this impending France False Flag event using the very dead Osama bin Laden, obviously made by a Frenchie at HuffPo –

    “Oh gee, look what didn’t make it through the HuffPo censors regarding their story “Bin Laden: France Must Withdraw From Afghanistan.” I’m so surprised.

    This comment is pending approval and won’t be displayed until it is approved.

    The French have a very strong sense of national honor and independen­ce. Sarkozy is a Straussian neocon who is selling them out to the world oligarchy — the “new world order,” if you like George H. W. Bush’s term for it. Against the wishes of the people of France, Sarkozy is intensely lobbying to keep French forces deployed in Afghanista­n.

    In addition to a strong sense of honor, the French, as a nation, are strong willed. So the problem becomes how to exploit that sense of honor to turn the will of the people to neoconserv­ative/olig­archic objectives­.

    Solution: The Osama bin Laden hat trick. So now we have the infamous myth of OBL threatenin­g the French to leave Afghanista­n or they will never see their hostage countrymen again. Well, as you can imagine, Osama bin Laden is either a total ijut or something else is going on.

    The French are not a particular­ly naive people as Americans are. They will see right through this. Nicholas Sarkozi is about to hit a political wall that will end his career. The French are already aware that they are being sold out. This could be the straw. ”

    btw, Wayne Madsen is on over at RBN –
    http://republicbroadcasting.org/ click on the link to the right to listen to the “live” show.

  114. GORDO | January 22, 2011 at 5:09 pm |

    Gordo, this is something that I noticed a long time ago. I would have thought that in 1961 they would have used Kenyan, but not African because Africa is a continent. Each country and tribe in Africa is very different. Øbama’s father, if he was a party to the “certificate” and which I doubt he was a party, might have wanted to have it designated as Luo, but not African.

  115. Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 7:04 pm |

    jbjd | January 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 6:44 pm |

    I hear you, but could it fall under the RICO ACT?

    Yes, as an ‘act in furtherance of the conspiracy’ of election fraud, which is getting his name on the ballot in those states that require candidate qualification for office as a prerequisite to getting the state to print the candidate’s name on the ballot; by swearing he is Constitutionally eligible for the job before ascertaining whether he is. (I introduced this concept of ‘fraud,’ that is, the concerted activity required in RICO, ages ago. The easiest way to establish this is to get more than one AG to pursue charges. The hardest aspect is, finding a U.S. Attorney to prosecute.)

  116. We’re never gonna survive unless we are a little crazy, people (Seal, Crazy), so let’s ge a little Crazy….not nuts, just crazy…

    jbjd is right. Her approach has always been the right approach…state level w/our A’sG and Secretary of our respective state Board of Elections. Yakking about what to do or how to accomplishes so little. Time’s a wastin, whatca ‘GOING TO DO’ to stop this train wreck recklessly heading our way in 2012? Get off your duff’s and let’s rock!!! We got a ton of work to accomplish b/w now and 2012 and all of that work is at our respective statehouses. It is no longer an option to wait for others to act…WE HAVE TO ACT!!!

    If you wanna know how to do it let me know. You know where to find me. Spent a decade getting my items passed at the Virginia General Assembly and I am more than happy to teach you how to do it.

  117. Send Barry a Very Happy Unbirthday postcard.

    Way back in Barry’s first year, I suggested people start sending Sotoero very happy UNBIRTHDAY CARDS, since we have had no proof when and where his actual birth day happened. I suggested tea party people show happy un birth day signs to the mystery of Hussein’s past.

    Why not start sending happy unbirthday post cards?

    The real strategy at hand is to coordinate with all branches of the military who also suspect Obama is a usurper, (there are quite a few retired who have come forward) specific patriots who have been bravely pursuing the presidential legitimacy–Dr. Kate, Jerome Corsi, Citizen Wells, WND, Phil Berg, Dr. Taitz, Mario Appuzzo, Dr. Terrence Lakin, Dc. Allan Keyes, Pastor Manning and others to come up with a creative plan to put pressure on Boehner, Congress, Senate, state governors, AG’s and various judges to place the legitimacy of this alleged president a first priority of investigation for the sake of the NATIONAL SECURITY OF AMERICA which is now seriously compromised. Beohner has much to gain if he pursues this. He is third to the Presidency. Biden is part of the uspation conspiracy therefore he can’t serve as president. This could make Boehner the president.

    We must find ways to appeal to their loyalty–what little may be left–to America, their oath to support and protect the Constitution, their duty to serve their constituents, the need to preserve the American Christian/Judeo way of life and more. We must also be prepared to embarrass and shame them, expose them, refuse to reelect them if they fail, and eventually indict them and try them for being complicit in the greatest crime every committed against their own country and its citizens.

    Time is of the essence. WE MUST PUT INTENSE PRESSURE UPON OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO TAKE IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY ACTION. They must choose to short circuit the red tape and make Obama accountable for the major crimes he has committed against the United States or be prepared to go down in history as aiders & abettors, enablers, and participants in the destruction of the Republic of the United States. This is the legacy the 112th Congress is leave if it fails to do any less. Failure to do any less is equally criminal to Sotoero’s crimes.
    We must simultaneously print out and distribute under ground new letters exposing all of Barry Sotoero’s crimes.

  118. And yes, I, Helen, put together a network that secured $1 MILLION in one time spending over the course of five years to upgrade Virginia’s Municipal WasteWater Treatment Plants and land that protected our water quality. And yes, I am damned proud of that and know how to get budget items and laws passed. I learned from the best.

    More recently, in this last year I started “live” coverage of our state’s legislative budget process. Lordy, let me assure you my efforts scared the chit out of the fella’s that were accustomed to operating behind closed doors and out of the publics view. Game over. Why? Freedom of Information Act laws…every state has them. Read them. Know them. Use them to inform the public.

    Unfortunately, a week in, I was threatened by one of our state’s Senators, and rather than going off half cocked, I reported the threat at my blog and made sure every member of Virginia’s legislature received a personal email detailing, painfully, the crap I went through to provide budget transparency to the citizens of Virginia about our budget process.

    Then I testified before our FOIA Council. Result – ALL members of the legislature had to go through FOIA law training. All of them. And they did. Now, they have no excuse for breaking the laws they pass. Gotcha!

    As of this Monday, I’m heading over to the Capitol and will begin to “live” stream committee and sub committee meetings. I have the model built. I’m testing it now and would gladly empower ANYONE here on how to do it in your own state. It’s time we the people become citizen lobbyists…using the powerful mediums that have a learning curve but are affordable.

    Although advised to apply for a patent for my intellectual property, I’ve decided to empower rather than figure out how to manage such a beast. Time isn’t our friend and well, IMHO, we need to make the most of our time. The more citizen lobbyist’s out there exposing their statehouses work the better off we as a “union” become. Moreover, we get bills introduced and then with a camera and/or audio device record every scintilla of info pro/con and make it known to the citizens who vote these rascals in.

    Seriously, let me know if you have an interest in “doing” something b/w now and election day on 2012. You want laws passed on eligibility, well, don’t wait for someone else to do it…YOU do it. You want your Elections Sec’y to fulfill her/his duties YOU make sure that happens.

    Time for action folks. This lazyboy chair is worn…just sayin

  119. Helen | January 22, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
    More recently, in this last year I started “live” coverage of our state’s legislative budget process. Lordy, let me assure you my efforts scared the chit out of the fella’s that were accustomed to operating behind closed doors and out of the publics view. Game over. Why? Freedom of Information Act laws…every state has them. Read them. Know them. Use them to inform the public.
    ************************************************
    Helen, misstickly has called on all of us to help her with the UIPA requests in Hawaii. Hawaii is playing games with the FOIA requests, and denying legitimate requests , and breaking the law, to cover for Obama. What can we do to force the obot criminals into submission?

  120. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    Good for you, Helen! Well done, and for the record, I agree.

  121. Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 5:43 pm |

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    Would you be so kind as to identify Obots posting here?
    I thought we had moved beyond that silliness.

  122. Sue K……thank you for clearing up the confusion (mine). 🙂 It was late for me too and my mind was racing (well, as fast as a senior’s mind can race) on what I could possibly have said to get that kind of reaction. Of course, after reading previous posts and not finding anything, I thought that maybe Sue K just really detested Rush Limbaugh (which is ok…. I was just protesting some false statements attributed to him by Lame Cherry) & those who listen to Rush, but to be called an ‘ignoranus’ was (I felt) a little over the top. Now I’m laughing and realizing that my post was just inconveniently placed (timing is everything sometimes) right before you came in to share this new word, which is really funny. 😉 You are so right….comic relief is so welcomed and needed today.

    By the way……I have valued your posts regarding vaccines etc. and, in fact, I look for them. I have 3 grown children, 2 married, and 7 grandchildren so this issue, along with other medical info., is important to me. Thank you!

  123. Ted | January 22, 2011 at 5:57 pm |

    ==============================

    Just a piece of friendly advice. Please do not expect any sound conversation from FS. There are at least a hundred questions of various sorts still outstanding on the various things he posts here over and over.

    He does not listen, does not answer, and just keeps heading down the road on his own set of tracks. It seems impossible to derail him. If you get too close to the truth, he has a habit of lashing out and calling such people names.

    So, just beware – – –

    Other than that – just hang out here – read stuff from lots of people – and learn who is who. Among the regulars there are two or three basic factions or “camps”. You will soon get a feel for that.

  124. Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 6:03 pm |

    ==========================

    Some definitions are in order in case there are newbies lurking:

    “straw man” = anything different than what I want to talk about

    “red herring” = anything that disagrees with me

  125. Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 6:15 pm |

    jbjd | January 22, 2011

    As usual you are WRONG in your DEFENSE of BO.

    =========================================

    jbjd is NOT ipso facto WRONG just because she disagrees with YOU. You are not god. You are not the sole revealer of truth.

    You are entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to disagree with jbjd, but you cannot call her WRONG.

    I have disagreed with jbjd on a number of things. In fact I am not sure I agree with her on this particular one, either.

    BUT

    In a straight out pizzer, yelling match, one on one, I will bet my money on jbjd 100:1 over you. I assert almost everybody posting here would say the same thing. Your continued ridiculing of the people – the heros – out there on the front battle lines is getting old. And downright disrespectful. It is a large part of the reason your credibility is in the dumps.

  126. Paxson | January 22, 2011 at 7:19 pm |

    ==============================

    Your are largely right – in that hearts may be in the right place – regardless of occaisional disagreements or exterior gruff.

    But occasionally you have someone where one begins to doubt their heart. Some wounds simply cannot be healed. Usually these are the deeply personal ones, the lies, the purposeful misrepresentations, the malicious defamation.

    This is no way to heal that S H I T!

  127. PS – anybody wanting to wallow in some fresh manure – take a look at what got posted on the tail of the previous thread after this one got started.

    We need to pull together to get this stopped. We are all targets.

    (In fact, after refusing to post here for quite a while, I came back for the express purpose to try to protect my friends. The amount of abuse that several were repeatedly receiving was way beyond what any compatriot should have to bear.)

    Please help any way and every way you can. And remember “appeasment” is the chicken liver way out. The appeased ones always come for you sooner or later. Appeasement may slow them down, but often the final result is even worse.

  128. Helen….bravo, you are doing what the rest of us wish we could do. I live in the great LEFT west and when some tell us to contact our congress men/women, Senators, etc……..can you imagine what we, as God & country loving patriots, must feel like when are asked to contact those like Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein and the new governor, Jerry Brown? (not that “I’ll Be Back” Arnie was much different) Still, we have done so even knowing that our letters are being filed in the ‘circular’ file containers. After one such phone call to (Dem) Senator Feinstein, we started being harrassed by IRS going back to 2006. Never had problems before and we knew we were innocent of wrong doing, answered every single threat they made with duplicates of tax returns. It took one phone call from our congressman’s office (the good guy for our district, God Bless him) to get this 4 year harrassment stopped. I applaud you for what you have done for your state and your perserverance!

  129. bob strauss | January 22, 2011 at 9:12 pm |
    Helen | January 22, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
    More recently, in this last year I started “live” coverage of our state’s legislative budget process. Lordy, let me assure you my efforts scared the chit out of the fella’s that were accustomed to operating behind closed doors and out of the publics view. Game over. Why? Freedom of Information Act laws…every state has them. Read them. Know them. Use them to inform the public.
    ************************************************
    Helen, misstickly has called on all of us to help her with the UIPA requests in Hawaii. Hawaii is playing games with the FOIA requests, and denying legitimate requests , and breaking the law, to cover for Obama. What can we do to force the obot criminals into submission?
    ______________________
    Hawiian officials will drag out their stall tactics for as long as they can. What Terri K needs to do is connect with a fellow spirit in Hawaii. There are bloggers who work from Hawaii who know and cover this issue intitmately. Therefore, she needs to make contact w/one of these folks. By Skype – active communication works. Passive via email will only delay her critical work.

    Once contact is made, she has to have a game plan. She needs to coach this individual/s about her work, her findings and next steps. My advice go to HDOH with an audio recorder, one that is set on the desk for the HDOH staffperson to know every word they utter is being recorded and then downloaded into an mp3 file for all to hear.

    Once this is accomplished, and her contact has gained some confidence, Terri K needs to get this individual to conduct the same operation w/the A’sG office attorney responsible for UIPA enforcement. Record out in the open, download into an mp3 file and broadcast live.

    Now she has folks on the record. This is the first step. Emails are one thing which I consider to be a passive form of communication. Pick up Skype and make a daggone phone call. If Terri K wants control, then she may want to p/up the Skype and make contact letting the individual know on the other end their conversation is being recorded. If that person refuses, well then suck it up and move on until you find someone who will.

    Once one is on the record via audio or camera, then Terri K’s building of the record gains strength of which others will begin to take notice. Yes, writing i.e., emails is building a record. No question. Her next step is to bump it up to the next notch.

    After she’s gathered this intel for the record, she needs to begin work with the locals and empower them to go full court press. This step takes coaching and hand holding but she can do it from here. Citizens are the ones who will make the difference and NOT a professional lobby firm.

    Let me know if this helps. Terri K can contact me anytime and I am more than happy to work with her to divise a plan and strategy. This can be done. And it’s not as hard as it sounds. Remember, we have assets here in the states that can help us connect to friends who are as disgusted with this nightmare and who are as talented as any of us are. We’ve simply not used them and worked the network. IMHO, this is Terri’s next step.

  130. It’s time to focus on the real issue here: foreign invasion.

    The Constitutional issue of usurpation is but one, albeit important, piece of the puzzle.

    The other piece is our sovereignty. Time to tell foreign countries to SHOVE IT. Get them out of the country now. Start with supporting initiatives at the state level to kick out every illegal immigrant out of every location.

    The rest will take care of itself.

  131. thistle, thank you. I left that realm a couple of years ago and am heading back as a citizen lobbyist. There is no such thing really. So, I am determined to give definition and empower any and all who wish to blaze their own trail in their own state.

    Our individual state FOIA laws serve us and we have to learn them and use them. These laws invite we the people into the process yet few take advantage. My advice, take advantage…open otherwise closed doors…and have some fun. This latter suggestion is odd given the intensity of the legislative atmosphere, but if you’re not willing to have fun doing this kind of work then you’ll be miserable.

  132. thistle | January 22, 2011 at 9:19 pm |

    Thanks, thistle, and as they (who are ‘they,’ anyway?) say, timing is indeed everything!

    What happened was that after I posted, you posted and said ‘SueK?’ I thought you were inserting my name when I asked for CWers to do that for the ‘ignoranus’ of their choice! It’s hard to know what folks really mean via the typed word, sometimes.

    I have no issues with Rush and listen to him as time permits; I just really wanted him to come out with it and not dance around the issue. I do feel, however, that this is a start and I hope that he and other influential talkers will get the whole body in the lake and not just the toe :). Hoping..

    Thanks for the compliment and I’m glad you appreciate the health updates. Haven’t posted much because it’s been a light flu season thus far however, we’re getting into the thick of it now so I will share what I learn. It was important, however, to bang the drum and let everyone know that this year’s seasonal flu shot has the added ‘bonus’ of the trash H1N1 vaccine, as well. If folks want to have their flu shot, I hope that they make an informed decision and know what they’re getting this time around.

    Quite a family you have there! My wish is that you all remain happy and *healthy.*

    Please let us hear more from you when you’re so inclined to jump in to the mix, and glad we got things ironed out :).

  133. Free Speech:–

    I’m merely point out that in fact there was another avenue, which avoided the whole constitutional/standing complexity, which was in Alan Keyes’ simple case of tort fraud against the pre-POTUS Obama brought by Orly Taitz. Judge Carter was boxed into a corner and the case was set to go forward, to discovery (which would have been the end of BHO), but Team Obama injected a law clerk (from Obama’s law firm fighting the eligibilty cases) to write Judge Carter’s ruling contorting the case so Judge Carter, obviously under the greatest of pressure, could make a 180 and get out of it.

  134. Ted | January 22, 2011 at 10:35 pm |

    Free Speech:–

    I’m merely point out that in fact there was another avenue, which avoided the whole constitutional/standing complexity, which was in Alan Keyes’ simple case of tort fraud against the pre-POTUS Obama brought by Orly Taitz. Judge Carter was boxed into a corner and the case was set to go forward, to discovery (which would have been the end of BHO), but Team Obama injected a law clerk (from Obama’s law firm fighting the eligibilty cases) to write Judge Carter’s ruling contorting the case so Judge Carter, obviously under the greatest of pressure, could make a 180 and get out of it.

    The only way Alan Keyes would even have had a hope of prevailing in any kind of lawsuit would be to allege, but for Obama being on the CA ballot, he – Keyes – would have won sufficient Electors among all of the states, so as to be elected President. As he – Keyes – was not on the ballot in a sufficient number of states to even allege this injury, he had no chance under any legally cognizable action to prevail.

    The courts thus far have ruled in these cases, according to the law. The lawyers bringing these cases, on the other hand, have not been as scrupulous.

  135. Open Question?

    Found this bit of info on Barry’s (Berry’s) background. Don’t know if it has already been reported?
    An article (Secrets of Obama Family Unlocked NAM) written in 2007 states that
    Indonesia feminist writer Julia Suryakusuma in 1981 was a very close friend of Ann Dunham. Perhaps Julia may have additional information on Barry’s (Berry’s) birth?

    Article further states that the marriage between Barack and Ann is questionable.

  136. It now seems the article from the StarAdvertiser.com has a retired immigration attorney giving out this advice to all:
    thanksforreading says:
    As a retired immigration attorney, I feel the need to provide legal information in the regard. The constitution requires all persons who run to be citizens at the time of birth. Such citizenship can be established by soil or blood. Meaning even if born outside the USA (Like John McCain was), a person whose legitimate parent (“legitimacy” has been redefined since Obama’s birth) was a USA citizen and spent 10 years in the usa (5 of which after age 14) is a citizen at birth regardless of where s/he was born. Mothers are always considered legitimate parents. So even if born in kenya, obama would still be a citizen at birth entitled to hold the office of the presidency.

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110122_Governor_halts_Obama-birth_effort.html#comment-133098833

  137. DABIG at 1:02 —

    From “US Department of State” site:
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    “Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock”

    “A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. … For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.”
    ——–
    “Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother”

    “A person born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 309(c) of the INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person’s birth and if the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person’s birth.”

    http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html
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    Citizenship is transmitted to the child, no mention of natural born citizenship.
    ***********************
    ***********************
    [If SAD and BHO were married.]:

    “… this is the scenario that would apply if Obama was not born in the United States. Obama’s father was not a United States citizen. Obama can therefore only rely on his United States citizen mother to make him a “citizen of the United States at birth.” But as we can see from 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401(g) (the only applicable statute), a mother had to be at least 19 years old when she gave birth to the child born abroad in order to transmit her United States citizenship to him. Obama’s mother, born on November 29, 1942, was 18 years old when she gave birth to Obama on August 4, 1961. She was 117 days short from being 19 years old. But she had to be at least 19 years old (14 years old plus 5 years of U.S. physical presence) to satisfy the legal requirement of Sec. 1401(g) (INA Section 301(g)). Therefore, Obama cannot benefit from Sec. 1401(g).

    Hence, if Obama was not born in the United States, under the Fourteenth Amendment he is neither a United States citizen by birth on United States soil nor one by naturalization.”

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/12/what-is-putative-president-obamas.html

  138. GORDO | January 23, 2011 at 1:56 am |

    Ahh, thanks GORDO, I’ll pass it on…
    Take care man.

  139. Wow, I asked for help over at dr. kate’s, she completely misunderstood my motive and black-listed me. My first time commenting there, just wanted some help.
    Thanks again, GORDO. I passed it on and they took the ball and ran. Beautiful.
    Take care.

  140. http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Suryakusuma/1102441438

    Add her as a friend–perhaps she’ll be forthcoming on what
    hapnHal has said:
    “Perhaps Julia may have additional information on Barry’s (Berry’s) birth?”

  141. GORDO | January 23, 2011 at 1:56 am |

    GORDO, they’ve put your NBC explanation up 3 times. It has been taken down 3 times. Someone over at the Star Advertiser in Honolulu (could also be disqus) doesn’t want people there to see it. It’s visible for a few minutes then poof-gone!
    Interesting isn’t it.

  142. jbjd:

    Wrongo, not neccesary for Keyes to PREVAIL, simply needed to advance beyond Obama’s motion to dismiss, into discovery. Moreover, Keyes only need recover nominal damages.

  143. BO/BP Disaster caused Gulf Loop Current to break causing Record Cold

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXUifNpnpfQ

    BO ORDERED AIR FORCE TO SPRAY COREXIT POISON ON GULF

    ALEX JONES CALLS FOR GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNW0lkjTxAQ&feature=player_embedded

  144. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”

    Like CW and many of us here, the above has always been my number one question for those who support Obama and they never can provide an explanation.

    My number two question.

    If Obama’s team of attorneys had credible evidence of his eligibility, why has SCOTUS never ruled in his favor in at least one case to put this issue to rest once and for all?

    Refusing to hear a case without comment does NOT prove the cases are without merit. It only proves SCOTUS has abdicate its responsibility.

  145. Latest Commie News http://www.commieblaster.com

    Expose all 70 plus Marxist in Congress see article on right
    citizens not know who they really were FRAUD ????

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  146. This will wake you up! 🙂

    Breaking: FOX News Hires Olbermann
    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/breaking-fox-news-hires-olbermann/

  147. Truth Now | January 23, 2011 at 9:31 am | Latest Commie News http://www.commieblaster.com

    Expose all 70 plus Marxist in Congress see article on right
    citizens not know who they really were FRAUD ????

    see Mao ornament lower right of page

    —————————

    Thanks.

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  149. BO & Odinga incite Riots in Kenya.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogPJVtsL-Y

    Hate Speech of BO’s “pastor”

    BO Follower Shabazz incites BO Followers to “Kill their babies.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN67KJdd6Mw

    Violent Plots of BO Mentor Bill Ayers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

  150. Ted | January 23, 2011 at 5:08 am |

    jbjd:

    Wrongo, not neccesary for Keyes to PREVAIL, simply needed to advance beyond Obama’s motion to dismiss, into discovery. Moreover, Keyes only need recover nominal damages.

    As I said, Keyes could not survive a Motion to Dismiss for failure to state a claim on which relief could be granted because he could not even allege he suffered injury because of Obama where winning in CA still would not have won him – Keyes – the Presidency.

    As he – Keyes – was not on the ballot in a sufficient number of states to even allege this injury, he had no chance under any legally cognizable action to prevail.

    And all the hyperbole in the world – “Wrongo”? and “PREVAIL” – does not change these facts.

  151. IMHO, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep have presented well written cases that deserve a hearing on the merits.

    I admire Orly greatly for her courage in championing our Constitutional Cause when few of us dared to speak out.

    Leo D’s early writtings on the Fourth Branch of Government, the Citizens Grand Jury, were excellent and inspiring.

    Citizen Wells, Dr. Sam Sewell, Joe Farah, Sher Ziev, Sharon Rondeau, John Charlton and many other Patriots have inspired me personally to have the faith to keep up the good fight.

    I have always maintained that a Breach of Constitutional Contract Case coupled with an Original Jurisdiction Filing with SCOTUS would overcome the Standing problem and bring BHO directly before SCOTUS to answer for the Crimes that he has committed.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html


  152. Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators for these crimes:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  153. From what I watched and heard on Meet The Press this AM with Cong. Eric Cantor, majority whi(M)p, do not expect much regarding the eligibility issue. David Gregory asked him if he believes what the Birthers say about the O’s eligibility and he sort of danced around the question and said he doesn’t believe in name calling.

    PS – This really scared me at first –

    Jonah | January 23, 2011 at 9:31 am |

    This will wake you up! 🙂

    Breaking: FOX News Hires Olbermann
    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/breaking-fox-news-hires-olbermann/

  154. Oh, I forgot!! Mike, WELCOME, PATRIOT!!

  155. Saska | January 23, 2011 at 11:50 am |

    Did you guys see this?

    http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2011/01/january-11-2011-white-hat-report-8-end.html

    Also, this:

    Please Encourage Your State to Pass This Bill


    **************************************
    Yes Saska, quite interesting the White Hat report isn’t it.
    Here’s a video from them you might enjoy, listen to the charges here!
    Unbelievable.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBiHDClQnUA

  156. White Hat Report #2
    even more unbelievable charges.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6HTTspwIUk

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