Blagojevich Obama Emanuel, Blagojevich trial, Obama 2012 headquarters, Emanuel defense subpoena

Blagojevich Obama Emanuel, Blagojevich trial, Obama 2012 headquarters, Emanuel defense subpoena

“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“Why was the arrest of Rod Blagojevich delayed until after the 2008 elections?”…Citizen Wells

From the Chicago Tribune January 20, 2011.

“President Barack Obama, as expected, has chosen Chicago as the headquarters for his 2012 re-election campaign.

An Obama campaign official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the headquarters will open this spring.

The news came as senior adviser David Axelrod prepares to leave the White House and return to Chicago soon after the president’s State of the Union speech on Tuesday in order to spearhead the re-election bid.

As recently as late last month, White House officials said Obama had not decided where to locate his re-election headquarters. Observers, though, expected him to pick Chicago.
The decision bucks recent history. Every two-term president in the last 30 years — George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan — set up his re-election campaign offices near the White House or in suburban Virginia.”

“A Chicago base offers plenty of advantages: The city is loaded with longtime loyalists, many with fundraising muscle.”

Read more:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-obama-campaign-chicago-0121-20110120,0,5353123.story

Maybe, maybe not.

From the Chicago Sun-Times Jan 17, 2011.

“Rahm Emanuel may have retained his spot on the mayoral ballot, but he’s also kept a spot in another, less desirable place — a federal subpoena.

An attorney for former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said Emanuel remains under defense subpoena for the upcoming retrial, scheduled for April 20.

“It’s certainly possible we would call Rahm Emanuel as a witness,” Blagojevich attorney Sheldon Sorosky said.

Sorosky said at the direction of U.S. District Judge James Zagel, all the subpoenas issued in last summer’s first Blagojevich trial would be still valid in the second trial.

Emanuel, who was captured on tape in conversations with Blagojevich and his staff, was not called as a witness in the first trial where Blagojevich was convicted on just one of 24 counts.

But Sorosky said if the government opens the door in this go-around, Emanuel could take the stand.

“We’d have to see just what evidence the government presents,” Sorosky said.

Defense lawyers have said that Emanuel would be of interest to them because they believe he would testify that nothing nefarious took place in his conversations with Blagojevich or his staff in late 2008. Emanuel is not accused of wrongdoing.

While Emanuel was captured on some recordings made in the course of the investigation into Blagojevich, none were played at trial.

In one of those recordings, Emanuel appears to be asking Blagojevich for a favor involving Emanuel’s soon-to-be-vacant congressional seat, the Chicago Sun-Times reported in 2009. Emanuel, who was working as President Obama’s chief of staff, would not answer questions at the time.”

Read more:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/3345611-505/blagojevich-emanuel-staff-trial-gov.html

293 responses to “Blagojevich Obama Emanuel, Blagojevich trial, Obama 2012 headquarters, Emanuel defense subpoena

  1. Obviously BO is not going to resign as some had hoped. Despite the valiant efforts of Phil Berg, Orly Taitz and Gary Kreep it is doubtful that SCOTUS will hear any eligibility lawsuits in time to prevent BO’s re-election campaign from going forward.

    Thus it is up to We the People to make sure that our State Legislators enact legislation to prevent constitutionally unqualified candidates like BO off the ballot and to launch immediate investigation of Election Fraud by the BO campaign.

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  2. Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 7:50 am |
    Here is the law that authorizes any law enforcement agent to have access to AKA Obama’s real birth certificate. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-to-obtain-copy-of-obamas-original.html
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    Thanks Sam!

  3. Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 7:26 am |
    Pravda Publishes The Spy Adventure Story That Explains How the Left Has Stolen America

    Part One of a three part series is found here.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/01/pravda-publishes-spy-adventure-story.html

    How to Create a Crisis and Steal a Nation

    By Aristotle the Hun, The Rev. Big Goon and Good Shepherd Sam
    Note: It will quickly be obvious to the reader why details have been obscured, omitted or fictionalized in this narrative of events that began nearly forty years ago.
    “Se non è vero, è ben trovato.”

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    Excellent!

  4. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am |
    I have known CW for just over THREE YEARS and I can assure you that he is on top of everything that goes on in this blog he OWNS and MAINTAINS by himself, there is no one else doing this job for CW. CW is a wonderful man that allows everyone their right to Freedom of Speech and does not get involved in back and forth among bloggers, it is simply an issue that does not require him to step in bc he is a WRITER, not your PARENTS. If you can’t get along, skip the posts of the person you disagree with and try to get along regardless of your opinion of the person posting. If CW were to censor anyone that would go against everything he has been fighting for over THREE YEARS NOW. I am not trying to start drama, but I am defending CW and his right to not get involved in common issues that take place on many blogs. No one is going to like everyone and no one will agree with everything someone says. We are adults here and do not ask/expect/demand CW to block someone or stop someone from posting information that they feel is important. It may not be important you, but for lurkers and those like me that read this BLOG EVERY DAMN MORNING, I find a lot of information and I don’t have to post. If I have questions or comments, I email CW directly. So, bottom line, threatening to leave over someone you don’t like posting is denying someone the same right you yourself demand for yourself, FREE SPEECH! CW is not the kind of man to deny that to anyone unless they are cussing bloggers out, causing harm, threats, etc. Please do not ask this man, CW to compromise his principals, honor and integrity for a chosen few. Just a thought for the Day!! If we have learned nothing this last TWO YEARS under Obama, there is one thing we must have learned, United We Stand, Divided We FALL!!

    Have a Great Day, CW!!!

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    Amen!

  5. Can someone tell me where i can find the docket for this case?
    U.S. Supreme Court Issues Landmark Decision: Constitution is Void
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20110118.CL31921&show_article=1

  6. I don’t agree with everything that Webster Tarpley says but his statements about the Natural Born Citizen clause in the 3rd video are correct. He is also correct about BO being blackmailed and the danger that poses to We the People.

  7. http://www.prisonplanet.com/you-are-the-resistance-against-the-dhs-occupation-of-america.html

    DHS will no longer be limited to the airport in the form of the TSA, but will become a ubiquitous entity policing everyone through a network of citizen spies and infrastructure security technology. The agency will also assume the mantle of regulating Americans’ every behavior and activity.

    In wartime France, the victims of the Nazi occupation could see who their oppressors were, in 21st century America we’re not yet being policed 24/7 by black boot wearing stormtroopers, but perhaps something even more insidious – each other. Homeland Security is training Americans to spy on their friends, neighbors and colleagues by making us obsessed with the fear of terror – using the very tactic of terrorists to chill the 1st Amendment, tear up the bill of rights, and intimidate Americans into accepting constant harassment, bag searches, body scans, interrogations, and suffocating security-theatre everywhere they go.

  8. LM | January 21, 2011 at 9:09 am |

    I was contacted by a national news reporter about that case yesterday. As I told her, it is NOT a landmark case. My recommendation is that you not waste your time researching it.

  9. OT, but …. “Sarah Palin, Combat Veteran”:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/sarah_palin_combat_veteran.html
    Contrast her “choices” with this abomination of gov. supported “other choices” that inevitably come to this:
    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortionist-brutally-murdered-hundreds-of-living-newborns-clinic-worker

    Obama applauds China – why not? He supports the same level of diabolical depredation of this country too.

  10. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 9:27 am |
    thanks for the input…friends are asking me about it.
    ****************************
    LM | January 21, 2011 at 9:09 am |
    I was contacted by a national news reporter about that case yesterday. As I told her, it is NOT a landmark case. My recommendation is that you not waste your time researching it.

  11. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am |

    I agree with you that CW should be praised for allowing Freedom of Speech and not condemned as he has been by carlyle and the cabal of obots that work with carlyle to disrupt from intelligent discussion here on CW.

    Likewise, I agree that those who make false defamatory personal attacks like carlyle does repeatedly should be censored. The 1st Amendment does not give anyone the right to falsely defame another.

    Defamation is a favorite tactic of the BO/Alinsky obots, designed to divide and conquer We True Patriots. It is good to see that those BO/Alinsky obot tactics are not working here on CW.

  12. Observer | January 21, 2011 at 9:32 am | OT, but …. “Sarah Palin, Combat Veteran”:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/sarah_palin_combat_veteran.html
    Contrast her “choices” with this abomination of gov. supported “other choices” that inevitably come to this:
    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortionist-brutally-murdered-hundreds-of-living-newborns-clinic-worker

    Obama applauds China – why not? He supports the same level of diabolical depredation of this country too.

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    Yes, BO’s Lawyer Bauer and his wife Anita Dunn like Bill Ayers have praised the ChiCom Mass Murderer Mao.

  13. Has everyone here heard about this Chicago fiasco?

    As Stan Laurel might have said to Oliver Hardy – “Another fine mess you have gotten us into!”

    Chicago Parking meters + abu dhabi + morgan stanley

    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=Chicago+Parking+meters+%2B+abu+dhabi+%2B+morgan+stanly&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=Chicago+Parking+meters+%2B+abu+dhabi+%2B+morgan+stanly&pbx=1&fp=cd3ff84e4645b8ea

    WE ARE IN REAL GOOD HANDS FOLKS!

    OH PS – Jeffrey Immelt has just been made Chairman of the Economic Advisers by the USURPER – But that will be another story.
    PPS – He is President of GE, which owns MSNBC. Does the word “Incestuousness” have no meaning any more?
    Oh – Breaking news – GE to sell 51% of NBC to Comcast.
    PPPS – GE’s stock has never been as high ($46 per sh) since Jack Welch retired 10 year ago.Today it is at $18 per share.

  14. BO and Dunn’s hero Mao Tse Tung murdered 60 million people.

    And BO’s Terrorist Pal Bill Ayers wants to murder millions of Americans.

  15. PS – I forgot to add that GE has yet to completely clean up the Hudson River of PCBs.

  16. BO & Odinga incite Riots in Kenya.

    BO Follower threatens Conservative

    BO Follower Shabazz incites BO Followers to “Kill their babies.”

    BO Union Thugs assault Black Conservative

  17. Anyone who votes for bo’s re-usurpation is totally stupid and hates our country and freedom. Bo should be in jail and not running for president again. That sickens me. Our congress is not doing their job and getting bo’s ineligibility looked into. They should subpoena all his pertinent papers to prove whether or not he is NBC. If he can’t produce anything, then he should be forced to resign. He is way too arrogant to resign on his own for the sake of our country and for the honor of the office he illegally holds. I would like to see Herman Cain as president. He is way better than the usurper and he is not a professional politician. He is a business man and he could do the right things in order to create jobs in this country and balance the budget. I hope that states will pass laws to make sure all candidates on the ballot show their documentation that proves that they are natural born citizens. Bo should not be on any ballot.

  18. rasmussenreports showing obamma getting a bounce in polls closing to -5 to -6 area

    going into state of union speech meaning he will get a higher bounce

    public needs a new obama story to drive his poll numbers back in
    dumpster

    GOP is blowing it after winning mid terms
    and just not getting the message, as usual

  19. “So where’s the proof?”
    by Joe Farah

    “Here we are two years into the Obama administration and close to 60 percent of Americans, according to a CNN poll, don’t believe the official birth narrative. Worse yet, to accept on face value Obama’s birth story doesn’t even settle the matter of eligibility, given his contention that his father was a foreign student, a Kenyan national, a citizen of the United Kingdom.

    It’s hard to believe the political system in the U.S. could fail so badly. It’s hard to believe the greatest country in the world could allow a man not legally eligible to assume its highest office. It’s hard to believe there was no mechanism to prevent such a huge national security threat and violation of the Constitution.

    But we are beginning to see it is not only possible that happened, but increasingly likely.”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=253445

  20. da verg | January 21, 2011 at 10:34 am | rasmussenreports showing obamma getting a bounce in polls closing to -5 to -6 area

    going into state of union speech meaning he will get a higher bounce

    public needs a new obama story to drive his poll numbers back in
    dumpster

    GOP is blowing it after winning mid terms
    and just not getting the message, as usual

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    I agree we will have to keep bombarding those numbskulls with the Truth about BO.

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators for these crimes:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

  21. WE CAN DO THIS. YES WE CAN. WE MUST

    One of the problem’s with getting MSM, Congress and the judicial system to take action regarding Barry’s usurpation is the fact there is still about 200,000,000 citizens who ARE EITHER NOT AWARE SOTOERO IS A FRAUD OR DON’T UNDERSTAND THHE ISSUE. The others simply do not care. WE NEED TO GET INFORMATION TO THESE 200,000,000 PEOPLE TO COUNTER ACT THE MSM LIES.

    What we patriots can do for very little cost is spread the word via UNDERGROUND NEWS LETTERS. Imagine if 1,000,000 patriots printed out some of the best articles regarding Obama’s ineligibility and crimes and left a few every where they went in a day. The cost of a ream of paper is about $5 to $7. There are 500 sheets in a ream. The cost of computer ink is minimal. It wouldn’t take very long to get the word out to the rest of the people still in the dark and it would cost much less if every one shared just a little bit. Inside of a month we could reach 200,000,000 people.
    The news letter should be anonymous. Print only articles that can be documented and include website addresses that a potentially interested person can research. It should ask people to reprint the paper and pass it around to their contacts. They can be left in doctor’s offices, super market bulletin boards, hospital waiting rooms, post offices, restaurants, laundry matt bulletin boards, school campuses, work place lunch rooms or where ever. They could be titled—WHAT MAIN STREAM MEDIA WON’T TELL YOU, THE REAL FACTS, TYRANNY IN AMERICA, OUTRAGE, WAKE UP, YOU HEARD THE LIES NOW GET THE FACTS, THE PRICE OF YOUR FREEDOM OR WHATEVER TITLE.

    WE MUST GO UNDER GROUND. WE MUST DO IT NOW. OUR LIVES ARE AT STAKE.

  22. Neal Boortz is talking about the COLB and the “Birthers” now… He has a lot to learn yet!

  23. usapatriots-shout | January 21, 2011 at 10:44 am | WE CAN DO THIS. YES WE CAN. WE MUST

    One of the problem’s with getting MSM, Congress and the judicial system to take action regarding Barry’s usurpation is the fact there is still about 200,000,000 citizens who ARE EITHER NOT AWARE SOTOERO IS A FRAUD OR DON’T UNDERSTAND THHE ISSUE. The others simply do not care. WE NEED TO GET INFORMATION TO THESE 200,000,000 PEOPLE TO COUNTER ACT THE MSM LIES.

    What we patriots can do for very little cost is spread the word via UNDERGROUND NEWS LETTERS. Imagine if 1,000,000 patriots printed out some of the best articles regarding Obama’s ineligibility and crimes and left a few every where they went in a day.
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    Great Idea!

    Orly and I printed up 1000’s of flyers for the National Religious Broadcasters Convention in 2009. They were well received.

    You are right we must get out the message to the masses. I suggest that flyers be circulated at Church and Civic Groups. If the Black Christian Community knew how BO and Odinga incited their muslim mobs to murder innocent Black Christians in Kenya, BO’s Black Voter Base would be destroyed.

  24. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 9:40 am |
    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am |
    (quote from SeriouslySickOfObama from prior thread):
    ” So, bottom line, threatening to leave over someone you don’t like posting is denying someone the same right you yourself demand for yourself, FREE SPEECH! CW is not the kind of man to deny that to anyone unless they are cussing bloggers out, causing harm, threats, etc.”
    **********************************
    FS, you brought this over from the prior thread. You are very much in agreement with it, but did you notice the poster said “unless they are cussing bloggers out, causing harm, threats, etc.?”

    You are not off the hook, because what about the time you told me, get the hell off of CW”? I call that cussing. What do you call it? You have never made one attempt – not a smidgeon of one – to apologize, FS.

    What makes you think that your statement in your 9:40 AM post, “The 1st Amendment does not give anyone the right to falsely defame another.” doesn’t apply to you? You have repeatedly defamed several of us as being Obots when that is absolutely false, and you know it is. I’m old enough to be your mother, and you’d better shape up or……….whatever.

  25. Interesting article by Hugh Hewitt on the GOP presidential race in 2012

    http://townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2011/01/20/what_the_hedgehog_knows_about_the_gop_presidential_race

    Comment – You may not agree with it, but there are some noteworthy observations. Personally I like to know what other people are thinking.

  26. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am |

    =================================

    You TOTALLY miss the point. ALL blog owners have a responsibility to at least minimally police their blogs. If for no other reason than to maintain modicum of credibility.

    NO ONE is advocating censoring valid comments, no matter how disagreeable. That has never been the suggestion. The point is to remove posters who have moved beyond the pale into illegal and illicit activity.

    Suppose someone continuously posted here recommendations to harm Obama or to molest children. At some point you have to draw the line.

    Furthermore, without censoring, there is “gentle persuasion”. For a good start, CW could and should make a simple statement – out in the open for all to see – “xyz person, please do not do a, and b, and c, on my blog”. If people then spit in the face of said blog owner, then there is every ample reason to remove them.

    Finally, I presume that CW would like his blog to be read and taken seriously. Is any one misbehaving person worth the impact to that?

    This is not brain surgery, not difficult, and very easy. Regardless of your protestations – ownership, oversight, and intentions are very much questioned when this level of disruption are allowed to continue.

  27. Cabby – AZ,

    Why would I apologize to an Obot like you, Cabby?

    Unlike you, obot cabby, I have always told the Truth, here on CW and unlike you, obot cabby, I have never falsely defamed anyone.

  28. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am |

    I have known CW for just over THREE YEARS and I can assure you that he is on top of everything that goes on in this blog he OWNS and MAINTAINS by himself, there is no one else doing this job for CW. CW is a wonderful man that allows everyone their right to Freedom of Speech and does not get involved in back and forth among bloggers, it is simply an issue that does not require him to step in bc he is a WRITER, not your PARENTS. If you can’t get along, skip the posts of the person you disagree with and try to get along regardless of your opinion of the person posting. If CW were to censor anyone that would go against everything he has been fighting for over THREE YEARS NOW. I am not trying to start drama, but I am defending CW and his right to not get involved in common issues that take place on many blogs. No one is going to like everyone and no one will agree with everything someone says. We are adults here and do not ask/expect/demand CW to block someone or stop someone from posting information that they feel is important. It may not be important you, but for lurkers and those like me that read this BLOG EVERY DAMN MORNING, I find a lot of information and I don’t have to post. If I have questions or comments, I email CW directly. So, bottom line, threatening to leave over someone you don’t like posting is denying someone the same right you yourself demand for yourself, FREE SPEECH! CW is not the kind of man to deny that to anyone unless they are cussing bloggers out, causing harm, threats, etc. Please do not ask this man, CW to compromise his principals, honor and integrity for a chosen few. Just a thought for the Day!! If we have learned nothing this last TWO YEARS under Obama, there is one thing we must have learned, United We Stand, Divided We FALL!!

    Have a Great Day, CW!!!

    ———————————————–
    I agree with you that CW should be praised for allowing Freedom of Speech and not condemned as he has been by carlyle and the cabal of obots that work with carlyle to disrupt from intelligent discussion here on CW.

    Likewise, I agree that those who make false defamatory personal attacks like carlyle does repeatedly should be censored. The 1st Amendment does not give anyone the right to falsely defame another.

    Defamation is a favorite tactic of the BO/Alinsky obots, designed to divide and conquer We True Patriots. It is good to see that those BO/Alinsky obot tactics are not working here on CW.

  29. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 9:40 am |

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am |

    … I agree with you that CW should be praised for allowing Freedom of Speech … The 1st Amendment does not give anyone the right to falsely defame another. Defamation is a favorite tactic of the BO/Alinsky obots, designed to divide and conquer …

    ================================

    WOW, Just WOW!

    So NOW you AGREE with me? There is ONLY ONE PERSON here who defames others. Hint: it ain’t me!

  30. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am

    United We Stand, Divided We FALL!!

    ——————————————–
    In March of 2009, I made a similar plea to all of the Major Eligibility Lawyers: Phil Berg, Orly, Gary Kreep et al, now I join you in you plea, that we unite in our Constitution Cause here on CW.

  31. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Free Speech,

    That was my assessment this morning. I stated that unless someone was causing harm, cussing out other bloggers or making threats, then CW could put them in MODERATION to obtain some control over what is posted, IF HE SO CHOOSES. It is up to CW to determine who he deems are making a mockery of Free Speech and abusing that right. If someone is causing Defamation with personal attacks, then that person should be put in MODERATION as a warning, IF HE SO CHOOSES. Then if no improvement, be banned, but this decision can only be made by CW without pressure or anyone demanding this action be taken by CW. If he feels that it is a necessary option for one of his members, he has that option to take that action. But, we all must be responsible for the words we use and remind ourselves that we are adults and this blog is filled daily with valuable information that is collected, reviewed and written by CW. It is a public forum for us to gather, vent, report and share other information. I would suggest RESPECT for all involved and especially for my dear friend, CW! CW deserves the respect of all his supporters and bloggers. I insist on that as his friend. If someone is truly out of line and it goes into a legal category of Defamation, then CW will do what needs to be done. CW is a fair and honest man. I have more respect for CW than most men I have met in my life. In my last closing, I said, “United We Stand, Divided We Fall”, but what I should have said is, “United We Stand, Divided WE FAIL”, that is how Obama won, he divided this nation, so on this blog, if you divide, this blog will fail, too! I will take it over everyday posting and blogging if I must and bring many more that admire CW with me to stop the this behavior. There are TERMS OF SERVICE on all Blogs, it would be a shame if CW had to stop working to monitor adult behavior to check every post for TERMS OF SERVICE VIOLATIONS. If everyone respects each others right, skip the people you do not want contact with, refrain from any form of back and forth name calling, then not only will CW’s message get HEARD, it will be received. CW has a huge following, we just don’t comment, but if we have to step in and take over the blog, that is not a problem, I will do whatever I have to ensure this Blog stays well read and keeps the integrity in which it was founded by my friend, CW!!

    *I am not taking sides on who is right or wrong*I would like to see the behavior on this blog develop into a more mature dialog for CW and reduce the stress he is under by this issue in his life. CW is working many long hours to gather this information, the last thing he needs to do is monitor adult behavior*Thank You and Have a Great Day*

  32. Bush, Gore and Kerry SAT scores compared

    None for the Smartest man in the world B. Obama, records sealed.

    No Birth Certificate, No school records, on and on and on…….

    [Confidential college transcripts and test scores obtained by the Washington Post reveal that neither presidential candidate, George W. Bush nor Al Gore, were shining students during their college days at Yale and Harvard, respectively.]

    http://www.insidepolitics.org/heard/heard32300.html

  33. Hi All and Happy New Year.
    Some interesting news:

    Newly Elected Hawaiian Gov. Having Difficulty Finding Obama’s B.C. (be sure to check out comments)

    http://www.ketknbc.com/news/talkback/newly-elected-hawaii-governor-claims-glitch-in-getting-obama-birth-certificate

    Birth Announcement Forgery (?)

    http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ObamaBirthAnnouncementForged1.htm

    Take care…

  34. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 11:26 am |

    Cabby – AZ,

    Why would I apologize to an Obot like you, Cabby?

    =================================

    UN FREAKIN BELIEVABLE

    That is not a defamation? That is not an attack? That is not an Alinsky technique? That is not disruptive? That is not a lie?

    BTW – I am still waiting on an answer from CW. This question will uniquely and diagnostically reveal CW’s true intent.

    More than once, FS has accused CW of very specific things. CW could easily, and should, tell us if FS accusation were true or not.

    This is not difficult. Either FS is a malicious prevericator who cannot be trusted, or not. EASY PEASY.

  35. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am |

    I have known CW for just over THREE YEARS and I can assure you that he is on top of everything that goes on in this blog he OWNS and MAINTAINS by himself, there is no one else doing this job for CW. CW is a wonderful man that allows everyone their right to Freedom of Speech and does not get involved in back and forth among bloggers, it is simply an issue that does not require him to step in bc he is a WRITER, not your PARENTS. If you can’t get along, skip the posts of the person you disagree with and try to get along regardless of your opinion of the person posting. If CW were to censor anyone that would go against everything he has been fighting for over THREE YEARS NOW. I am not trying to start drama, but I am defending CW and his right to not get involved in common issues that take place on many blogs. No one is going to like everyone and no one will agree with everything someone says. We are adults here and do not ask/expect/demand CW to block someone or stop someone from posting information that they feel is important. It may not be important you, but for lurkers and those like me that read this BLOG EVERY DAMN MORNING, I find a lot of information and I don’t have to post. If I have questions or comments, I email CW directly. So, bottom line, threatening to leave over someone you don’t like posting is denying someone the same right you yourself demand for yourself, FREE SPEECH! CW is not the kind of man to deny that to anyone unless they are cussing bloggers out, causing harm, threats, etc. Please do not ask this man, CW to compromise his principals, honor and integrity for a chosen few. Just a thought for the Day!! If we have learned nothing this last TWO YEARS under Obama, there is one thing we must have learned, United We Stand, Divided We FALL!!

    Have a Great Day, CW!!!

    ———————————————–

    I agree with you that CW should be praised for allowing Freedom of Speech and not condemned as he has been by carlyle and the cabal of obots that work with carlyle to disrupt from intelligent discussion here on CW.

    Likewise, I agree that those who make false defamatory personal attacks like carlyle does repeatedly should be censored. The 1st Amendment does not give anyone the right to falsely defame another.

    Defamation is a favorite tactic of the BO/Alinsky obots, designed to divide and conquer We True Patriots. It is good to see that those BO/Alinsky obot tactics are not working here on CW.

  36. “TV News Broadcast Questions Obama’s Eligibility; Callers Enraged”

    “This is the biggest unreported story of the past two years. Since before the election in 2008, citizens have been asking to see Obama’s original long-form birth certificate, such as is issued to every newborn infant in the United States, and in most of the world. Obama’s refusal to release the BC was historic, in that previous presidents have routinely released such records upon request. Obama’s easy-to-disprove life narrative only tells us that he isn’t being honest. Liberals are so busy attacking anyone who’s not bent over for Obama already as a wingnut. The fact is that no one has any idea what the truth is about Obama – his origins, his family, his education, or his early employment.”

    [video at link]

    http://www.evilconservativeonline.com/2011/01/tv-news-broadcast-questions-obamas.html

  37. Carlyle | January 21, 2011 at 11:39 am | Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 11:26 am |

    Cabby – AZ,

    Why would I apologize to an Obot like you, Cabby?

    =================================
    That is not a defamation? That is not an attack? That is not an Alinsky technique? That is not disruptive? That is not a lie?
    —————————————–

    No obot carlyle it is not defamation when you speak the Truth as I always do here on CW.

  38. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 11:33 am |

    SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 6:47 am

    United We Stand, Divided We FALL!!

    … now I join you in you plea, that we unite in our Constitution Cause here on CW.

    ===============================

    Yes, by all means. Please join us and quit calling us names and defaming us and embarrassing yourself and CW.

    Without getting too deep in formal psychology, I used to observe that there were two distinctly different FS’s – a good FS and a bad FS. We would like to have the good FS join us.

    The distinction being not at all one of opinion or agreeing or disagreeing. The distinction being totally one of acceptance and respect and working together peacefully and productively with other commenters here.

    At a minimum it would include self-censorship of the word Obot. That has become, on this blog, like the N word or the R word – a refuge of scoundrels who have not the ability to articulate an intelligent discussion – or upon being about to lose an argument to lash out and defame the other person.

    We will of necessity be divided, and cannot be united, UNTIL THAT STOPS.

  39. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    Free Speech,

    That was my assessment this morning. I stated that unless someone was causing harm, cussing out other bloggers or making threats, then CW could put them in MODERATION to obtain some control over what is posted, IF HE SO CHOOSES. It is up to CW to determine who he deems are making a mockery of Free Speech and abusing that right. If someone is causing Defamation with personal attacks, then that person should be put in MODERATION as a warning, IF HE SO CHOOSES. Then if no improvement, be banned, but this decision can only be made by CW without pressure or anyone demanding this action be taken by CW. If he feels that it is a necessary option for one of his members, he has that option to take that action. But, we all must be responsible for the words we use and remind ourselves that we are adults and this blog is filled daily with valuable information that is collected, reviewed and written by CW. It is a public forum for us to gather, vent, report and share other information. I would suggest RESPECT for all involved and especially for my dear friend, CW! CW deserves the respect of all his supporters and bloggers. I insist on that as his friend. If someone is truly out of line and it goes into a legal category of Defamation, then CW will do what needs to be done. CW is a fair and honest man. I have more respect for CW than most men I have met in my life. In my last closing, I said, “United We Stand, Divided We Fall”, but what I should have said is, “United We Stand, Divided WE FAIL”, that is how Obama won, he divided this nation, so on this blog, if you divide, this blog will fail, too! I will take it over everyday posting and blogging if I must and bring many more that admire CW with me to stop the this behavior. There are TERMS OF SERVICE on all Blogs, it would be a shame if CW had to stop working to monitor adult behavior to check every post for TERMS OF SERVICE VIOLATIONS. If everyone respects each others right, skip the people you do not want contact with, refrain from any form of back and forth name calling, then not only will CW’s message get HEARD, it will be received. CW has a huge following, we just don’t comment, but if we have to step in and take over the blog, that is not a problem, I will do whatever I have to ensure this Blog stays well read and keeps the integrity in which it was founded by my friend, CW!!

    *I am not taking sides on who is right or wrong*I would like to see the behavior on this blog develop into a more mature dialog for CW and reduce the stress he is under by this issue in his life. CW is working many long hours to gather this information, the last thing he needs to do is monitor adult behavior*Thank You and Have a Great Day*

    ——————————————————————
    You are welcome and thank you for your thoughtful post.

    May all the True Patriots here on CW have a great day and be united in our Constitutional Cause.

  40. So far 44 people have commented and 23 of those Posts are from Free Speech. Does this guy have a Life away from the CW Blog?

    I have found a solution to the tedious and repetitive Posts from FS. See that nifty arrow on the right side of the screen? Allows you to rapidily scroll through FS’s rants and move on to the “meaningful” Posts.

    And, before FS accuses me of being an OBOT, I am a Reagan Conservative Tea Party Capitalist.

  41. Oh, I see, were are playing a new game today.
    And I just sussed out the rules:

    R1: It is OK for you to call me a N-word or O-word because I am one. But not OK for me to wonder if you are a N-word or O-word because you are not one.

    R2: It is OK to use the N-word or O-word when it fits, but not when it doesn’t.

    R3: You are the sole authority of what is true and false or right and wrong.

    Awesome. What a way to rig the discussion. “Heads you win, Tails I lose”.

    (PS – some of us thing this is serious and not a game)

  42. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle and Free Speech,

    After reading the numerous back and forth with my post quotes, I think the two of you need to come to terms with each other and TIME OUT.

    Free Speech, Stop calling Carlyle an OBOT, no that is defamatory, it is rude! Let go of past insults and start a new beginning today by being respectful and ignoring each other!

    Carlyle, Demanding CW make direct comments calling out certain people is not going to happen, he has too much character to do that to anyone. May I suggest you ignore Free Speech? Also, damn and hell are not cuss words in regular blog or chat room usage, if the words goes further like the F word, the B word, then you have an issue. I ask of you the same I ask of Free Speech, starting today, new beginning and ignore each other.

    PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!! We have so much more in this country to worry over, this is not something we need to be debating!!

    CW, if they continue to insist you post something, then repost both my comments. My words would be most likely the same as yours!!

  43. GORDO | January 21, 2011 at 11:41 am | “TV News Broadcast Questions Obama’s Eligibility; Callers Enraged”

    “This is the biggest unreported story of the past two years. Since before the election in 2008, citizens have been asking to see Obama’s original long-form birth certificate, such as is issued to every newborn infant in the United States, and in most of the world. Obama’s refusal to release the BC was historic, in that previous presidents have routinely released such records upon request. Obama’s easy-to-disprove life narrative only tells us that he isn’t being honest. Liberals are so busy attacking anyone who’s not bent over for Obama already as a wingnut. The fact is that no one has any idea what the truth is about Obama – his origins, his family, his education, or his early employment.”

    [video at link]

    http://www.evilconservativeonline.com/2011/01/tv-news-broadcast-questions-obamas.html

    ————————————
    When the obots can’t handle the Truth ( i.e., LIE & attempt to misrepresent the Truth) then they make false ad hominem attacks on the messengers of the Truth as the usual obots have done here on CW this morning.

    It is good to see that those BO/Alinsky obot tactics are not working here on CW. The Truth is the cure for the Obot Disease of Dishonesty.

  44. Pat Smith | January 21, 2011 at 12:01 pm |

    ==================================

    You have missed the main point. For me, for instance, I really don’t care if various rat terriers choose to chew on my ankles all that much.

    The ONLY REASON I post rebuttals is because I worry about visitors who come here and want to learn and/or see if we are serious or just a bunch of kooks and liars – or just plain suffer from Obama Derangement Syndrome.

    The volume of posts, among other things, indicates sort of a “deputy blog owner” status – or at least favor with the blog owner. This in turn could give added weight to comments that are not representative of the “community” here.

    If a visitor reads enough, he would learn that these repetitive and rambling posts are not even representative of CW, let alone others here. And the TONE!? OMG. Certainly not like the stable and well-reasoned articles by CW and many other posts.

    I am petrified and embarrassed that somebody coming here to learn will be turned off or turned away. I also am REALLY DEPRESSED about the good posters who used to add to this blog who have been chased away.

    I continue to wonder how a single person could be worth losing so many – in the eyes of this blog owner. I wonder if SeriouslySickOfObama has a theory on THAT?

  45. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 12:10 pm |

    When the obots can’t handle the Truth ( i.e., LIE & attempt to misrepresent the Truth) then they make false ad hominem attacks on the messengers of the Truth as the usual obots have done here on CW this morning.

    =======================================

    CW knows the truth. Will he step to the plate and share with the rest of us? CW also knows if he appreciates some commenters calling others the O-word. Will he inform us?

  46. FYI… SCOTUS just ruled the Constitution dead.
    O just eliminated the need for the Congress with an executive order giving all power to regulate to agencies allowing public input and right “when feasible”… don’t have the link handy… you can google it yourself.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20110118.CL31921&show_article=1

  47. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 12:07 pm |

    Sorry, I will NOT stop outing obots. That is our Patriotic Duty to speak out against all the evil doers of the BO regime.

    I will ignore the obots as I usually do unless I am attacked personally as I am daily by carlyle and his cabal who obots who continually disrupt from intelligent discussion here on CW.

    Now I repeat my good faith message to you from an earlier post have a great day and be united in our Constitutional Cause.

  48. Carlyle,

    I understand your point perfectly and I applaud your attempt.

    If Free Speech had anything noteworthy to say it was lost a long time ago in his repetitive cut/paste Postings that I doubt most people bother to read.

    It is difficult to not feel sorry for him. I imagine him sitting in this Room constantly refreshing to get the next Post.

    Additionally, to label everyone an “OBOT” if you disagree with FS’s ranting is as bad as the Liberals who label Conservatives “racists” for disagreeing with Obama.

  49. Prairie | January 21, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    FYI… SCOTUS just ruled the Constitution dead.
    O just eliminated the need for the Congress with an executive order giving all power to regulate to agencies allowing public input and right “when feasible”… don’t have the link handy… you can google it yourself.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20110118.CL31921&show_article=1

    ———————————————-
    While I agree that BO’s EO’s are ominous, it is not correct to say that SCOTUS has voided the Constitution. Quite the contrary, SCOTUS is preparing to deliver a series of major constitutional defeats to the BO regime.

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/sources-say-smackdown-of-obama-by-supreme-court-may-be-inevitable

  50. Rush spent the entire opening monologue on the birth certificate…..

  51. Sandy | January 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm |

    I heard it too! Awesome!

  52. It’s about time!

  53. “I heard it too! Awesome!”

    Ditto !!

  54. Sandy | January 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Rush spent the entire opening monologue on the birth certificate…..

    SueQ | January 21, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Sandy | January 21, 2011 at 12:32 pm |

    I heard it too! Awesome!

    ————

    Great News! Rush doesn’t stick his neck out unless he has inside info and he knows all the Powers that Be. BO is about to be legally removed.

  55. It’s “Open Line Friday”. CW should call.

  56. FS,
    Whatever, they just upheld corruption in the courts with one word- “denied.”

  57. Rush is calling for a Criminal Investigation of the BO Cohort head of GE!

  58. “Dr. Greg Lakin Discusses LTC Terry Lakin’s Imprisonment – 1/20/2011”

  59. Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators for these crimes:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

  60. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Free Speech, Then you will remain part of the PROBLEM instead of the SOLUTION! If you continue to hold ill will towards others for past remarks and lack the courage to afford someone a fair second chance, then you will never resolve this issue and a day may come when CW does take you and those you fight with off this blog. I would hate to see that when we are united in ONE cause, but if you insist on behaving in this manner, you will not accomplish your goal to expose Obama, you will only discredit yourself as an individual with intelligent thoughts and opinions. If you are not willing to change your mind set and behavior, then don’t expect others to do the same. I suggest you take the high road.

    Carlyle, I have seen nothing to indicate that you are an Obot. Usually when two people are this hostile towards one another, it is because they are a lot alike, so if you come to terms as to being civil towards one another, you may find common ground. It is worth a chance to explore that avenue and remain on the same blog without insulting each other. Any rebuttals of back and forth only serve to fuel the fire to keep this ongoing. Please remember what we are here united and standing your ground against Obama Followers is one thing, but to continue to argue is immature behavior and both of you need to stop, retreat and regroup. Just do the right thing for the best interest of this blog and out of respect for CW, if not for yourself, then do it someone you both claim to respect! And, Carlyle, of course if someone were posting horrific statements about killing or rape, CW would intervene, but when two adults are fighting and expecting him to jump in and play DADDY, that is not going to happen.

    To Both of YOU-If you feel your presence here creates other lurkers to not want to be part of this blog, then find another playground! I am sure both of you are much older than I am, but it does not show in your post. I am not insulting either of you, I am trying to get you to understand that civil behavior among us is expected, accepted and appreciated. All the fighting and name calling is not getting you anywhere, has it so far? No, it hasn’t, so can we try it my way for a WEEK? Ignore each other, stop the name calling and find common ground!!!~Thank You~

  61. Rush is a cagey rascal. Reminds me of the time he defended Obama for being a Muslim. I LOVE IT!

  62. Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators for these crimes:

    1. Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime

    2. Birth Document Forgeries

    3. TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches

    4. Election Fraud & Voter Fraud

    5. Identity Theft

    6. Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions

    7. Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists

    8. Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico

    9. Theft of Private Property (Chrysler, GM, Pension and Retirement Accounts etc.)

    10. Embezzlement of Government funds distributed to Foreign entities.

    11. WikiLeaks and other Leaks of US Secrets by the BO regime to our enemies.

  63. Pattie | January 21, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Rush is a cagey rascal. Reminds me of the time he defended Obama for being a Muslim. I LOVE IT!

    ————————————-
    Ditto!

  64. Is there any end in sight to this nightmare?


  65. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011

    SSO,

    You are now on the Ignore List.

  66. Margie | January 21, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Is there any end in sight to this nightmare?

    ——————————-
    As they say the darkest hour is just before the dawn.

  67. Rush has talked about Obama’s birth certificate, etc. before and he doesn’t dismiss those of us who question it in any way. Chris Plante on WMAL in DC talked about it extensively today, and so did Neal Boortz? So that tells me this story is not going away. Drudge has been covering Abercrombie’s inability to find a certificate. I hope something is happening!!

  68. FS – Excellent!

    Thanks FS but wait till you see the next two installments!
    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/21-01-2011/116605-create_crisis-0/#
    ***************************
    As to the claim that nobody reads your repetitive posts, you should know that the posts with links to my blog are numerous. Maybe you have worn out your welcome with the regulars but the lurkers must still be hungry for your ideas because my statcounter still keeps spinning with hits from CW.

  69. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011

    SSO,

    Sorry, I will NOT stop outing obots. That is our Patriotic Duty to speak out against all the evil doers of the BO regime.

    I will ignore you, SSO, and the obots as I usually do unless I am attacked personally as I am daily by carlyle and his cabal of obots who continually disrupt from intelligent discussion here on CW.

    PLEASE do likewise and ignore me.

    Now I repeat my good faith message to ALL TRUE PATRIOTS, MAY ALL TRUE PATRIOTS be united in our Constitutional Cause.

  70. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Free Speech, You can not ignore everyone that disagrees with this behavior pattern, I am asking you to be fair and go ONE WEEK without calling Carlyle an OBOT and listen to her opinions. If you don’t agree, ignore it, you might find she has something valuable to say.

    Carlyle, if I am on your ignore list, too, then I say the same to you, Could you both for ONE WEEK just do this simple request and find common ground?

    I love CW, I will not allow this blog to be torn apart by this style of behavior. CW has worked too damn hard to get where he is and has educated us in a thousand ways. If you ignore me for stating the truth, then you don’t belong here and feel free to find some other place to blog. If you are trying to make CW chose who to keep and who to ban, that is totally unfair. If you can’t resolve this among yourself, then go away and let the one’s that TRULY RESPECT CW and his work stay and continue the dialog and debate that is the most important issue of our lifetime!!

  71. SeriouslySickOfObama

    I will not ignore you, Free Speech because I do read your post, I follow your links and I watch your youtubes you post. I find your information credible and I will continue to do so. I was only asking you to take a TIME OUT from name calling, if a true OBOT is here, then by all means, use the term, but you can’t determine someone is an OBOT that is on this blog daily saying Obama is not eligible to hold office like Carlyle has stated. You are not a child, you are a grown man that most admire, I only ask of you what I expect of myself, to show others respect even if I disagree.

  72. Missed Rush’s opening. Can someone paraphrase what they heard about the BC please?

  73. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Could someone post a link to his radio show for me? Or can I find him on DirectTV?

  74. Does anyone have a link to Rush show today??I wouldlove tolisten to it.
    Thank You!

  75. I just caught that last part of Rush stating that if the HI official had seen the BC
    & Abercrombie can’t find it, something is wrong.

  76. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Thank you, CW!!! I will listen and if I missed the BC issue, I will listen to the rerun later!

  77. SeriouslySickOfObama

    CW, if this Gov. can’t find it, then that means the one NancyP signed and sealed if a FRAUD, I swear Bill Clinton is behind this and the Gov. is working on Bill Clinton’s behalf to expose this!! Bill has nothing but time on his hands for revenge, haha!!

    OPEN LINE FRIDAY, CW, CALL, CALL, CALL!! It’s your moment, you know the information by heart without looking for sources!!

  78. SeriouslySickOfObama, a friend and patriot, has spoken and echoes my position:

    “Carlyle and Free Speech,
    After reading the numerous back and forth with my post quotes, I think the two of you need to come to terms with each other and TIME OUT.
    Free Speech, Stop calling Carlyle an OBOT, no that is defamatory, it is rude! Let go of past insults and start a new beginning today by being respectful and ignoring each other!
    Carlyle, Demanding CW make direct comments calling out certain people is not going to happen, he has too much character to do that to anyone. May I suggest you ignore Free Speech? Also, damn and hell are not cuss words in regular blog or chat room usage, if the words goes further like the F word, the B word, then you have an issue. I ask of you the same I ask of Free Speech, starting today, new beginning and ignore each other.
    PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!! We have so much more in this country to worry over, this is not something we need to be debating!!
    CW, if they continue to insist you post something, then repost both my comments. My words would be most likely the same as yours!!”

  79. Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm | FS – Excellent!

    Thanks FS but wait till you see the next two installments!
    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/21-01-2011/116605-create_crisis-0/#
    ***************************
    As to the claim that nobody reads your repetitive posts, you should know that the posts with links to my blog are numerous. Maybe you have worn out your welcome with the regulars but the lurkers must still be hungry for your ideas because my statcounter still keeps spinning with hits from CW.

    ———————————————-
    Thank you for your kind comments.

    As you know from my first annonymous post on the Steady Drip, I was a rather reluctant patriot thrust out of a sense of Duty into this constitutional debate.

    Nonetheless, it is gratifying to learn that the obots who seek to defame me have only succeeded in making my writings on the crimes of Obama more widely known; but I am most honored by the fact that I have gained some respect from one of the Foremost Patriots of our Time, Aristotle.

  80. citizenwells | January 21, 2011 at 1:24 pm |

    Thank you, CW.

  81. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    I will not ignore you, Free Speech because I do read your post, I follow your links and I watch your youtubes you post. I find your information credible and I will continue to do so.
    ——————————————————————
    Thank you, SSO.

    Again I IGNORE carlyle unless he attacks me personally or falsely defames me. carlyle comments are DEFAMATORYand as long as he is allowed to DEFAME me and other True Patriots, I have no choice but to condemn him for his LIES.

  82. Margie O | January 21, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    Rush has talked about Obama’s birth certificate, etc. before and he doesn’t dismiss those of us who question it in any way. Chris Plante on WMAL in DC talked about it extensively today, and so did Neal Boortz? So that tells me this story is not going away. Drudge has been covering Abercrombie’s inability to find a certificate. I hope something is happening!!

    —————————————————–
    Rush et al know all the Powers that Be. There is no way that they would be speaking out unless they had inside info that BO is about to be legally removed.

  83. Maybe Nancy got to peak at the one in the shoe box. LOL.

  84. After Rush’s lambasting of BO cohort GE head Jeffrey Immelt, that BO cohort might better get a good criminal attorney.

  85. Alex Jones and Drudge reporting Barky wants to take states into receivership.
    SCOTUS rules Constitution dead.
    Executive Order eliminates Congress.
    ABC and Rush discussing BC.

    SMOKE UM IF YOU GOT UM!

  86. citizenwells | January 21, 2011 at 1:24 pm |

    ===================================

    I have never asked you to take sides on someone’s opinions. I have only asked for truth. When ANYONE makes a statement about YOU that you can easily verify as truth or lie – especially when that one uses your silence as an implicit agreement with their lie – I respectfully ask you to state the truth. That does not seem like an unwarranted imposition.

  87. SeriouslySickOfObama

    CW, Thank you! Now that you have stated it and to start TODAY with a new beginning and dialog, we must now move forward to our collective goal and that is to expose Obama and not fight among each of us!!

    WITH MUCH RESPECT MY DEAR FRIEND!!!

  88. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Again I IGNORE carlyle unless he attacks me personally or falsely defames me. carlyle comments are DEFAMATORYand as long as he is allowed to DEFAME me and other True Patriots, I have no choice but to condemn him for his LIES.
    ————–
    Free Speech, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! This is a great gesture towards better communication and dialog on this blog and shows you truly do respect CW and value his friendship. I am very proud of you!!

  89. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 1:00 pm |

    ===============================

    1. You are not on my ignore list – I respect your opinion and concern.

    2. There is NO common ground and NO agreement – and FS and I are NOT even remotely similar in any way.

    3. Another well-meaning commenter some months ago requested a similar truce as to what you are suggesting. I IMMEDIATELY responded that I have no need to disparage anyone else’s opinions, and that if a general rule were stated and enforced that no one commented against another’s person or motivations, I would be happy to do the same – in that I was simply reacting to the name calling going on around me. This was immediately followed by a ALL CAPS (yelling!) statement by FS that he would not so refrain because it was his job to call out Obots whenever he (presumably unilaterally) determined was needed.

    So, I don’t think this situation is under my control at all. I will follow any and all rules of conduct established for this blog. Please look elsewhere.

  90. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
    CW, Thank you! Now that you have stated it and to start TODAY with a new beginning and dialog, we must now move forward to our collective goal and that is to expose Obama and not fight among each of us!!

    WITH MUCH RESPECT MY DEAR FRIEND!!!
    —————————————————————
    Amen!

    The only reason that I first visited CW over 2 years ago and the ONLY reason that I return today is to find and expose the Truth about BO and his criminal cohorts.

    The personal attacks, BO disinformation and defamation only serves to distract from intelligent discussion.

    May today be the day that the personal attacks cease on CW and we True Patriots unite in our Constitutional Cause.

  91. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 1:51 pm |

    =======================================

    Please read again. He apparently did not say what you think he said. Or alternatively, just wait and watch.

  92. Obama Signs New Executive Order.. Congress Officially Irrelevant
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=193847

  93. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
    Again I IGNORE carlyle unless he attacks me personally or falsely defames me. carlyle comments are DEFAMATORYand as long as he is allowed to DEFAME me and other True Patriots, I have no choice but to condemn him for his LIES.
    ————–
    Free Speech, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! This is a great gesture towards better communication and dialog on this blog and shows you truly do respect CW and value his friendship. I am very proud of you!!

    ——————————————————–
    You are welcome and thank you, SSO.

  94. Video– TSA replaces scanners with a Jihad Elimination Worker 🙂
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=193820

  95. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle, The only thing that I request is a peaceful debate on issues. If we use our words with proper manner and dignity when we speak, we deserve respectful feedback, when you make a statement that someone may disagree with, it is on that person to respectfully reply in kindness. I have watched our country turn into a hateful nation in two and half years, we have an illegal in the WH and the one common thread that holds us together is to remove him. No one is right all the time, at best we are right 50/50, the other is based on opinion, not facts. I fully understand how words in blogs can be taken out of context and a debate can turn into a heated argument within seconds, but it is best to always maintain a certain level of respect before you reply. I just hope for a better tomorrow and it starts with communication today. If you do your best, then that is all anyone can ask of you! I did not mean to appear as if I was attacking anyone, I was trying to restore the balance and sanity of CW’s blog. I hold CW in such high regard and I hated seeing what was going on in this blog that he works night and day to get information out to all of us. Thank you for understanding and just be able to say that you are trying to work it out and just please ignore the comments that piss you off, but better to be seen as the better person than a bitter person. God Bless you and may today be a new start for all of us here at CW’s blog.

  96. usapatriots-shout | January 15, 2011 at 12:32 pm |

    “I believe that if Obama fails to resign in 2011, the strong arm of Chicago crime influence in the White House will become increasingly evident. The screaming silence about the assassination of Judge John Roll is creating a very suspicious SMELL.”
    ——————————————————————-
    I agree.

    The Arizona Killer was a BHO Supporter. Congresswoman Giffords and Judge Roll were strong critics of the BHO regime’s aiding and abetting of the invasion of Mexican Terrorists into Arizona. BO incited his Supporter Arizona Killer Loughner to assassinate Judge Roll and Congresswoman Giffords with his violent rhetoric against Congresswoman Giffords and Judge Roll.

    John Roll may have been the REAL Target of Arizona gunman.

    Giffords Opposition to BHO regime

  97. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 12:27 pm |

    SCOTUS is preparing to deliver a series of major constitutional defeats to the BO regime.

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/sources-say-smackdown-of-obama-by-supreme-court-may-be-inevitable

    ========================================

    This is a good example of an opinion that can be discussed here without getting personal or all fluffed up.

    In my opinion this is wrong. The Supreme Court is preparing to do no such thing. They have stated over and over in the most plain language possible that they intend to do nothing. DENIED DENIED DENIED.

    They have had ample opportunity to address this issue. They know as well as we that the longer it goes the harder it will be to “uproot the weed”. If they were going to do something they would have done it long ago. If they are concerned or incensed at all (as lord know some of them have reason to be), they are clearly hoping that Soetoro will step on his own willy politically and thus be dealt with by congress – or the electorate.

    I think by far the most logical and defensible position is that ALL the PTB’s are just trying to tread water until the election so NONE of them have to deal with it.

    Finally, we need to frame these things as opinions. No one has any inside information on this. And the Examiner is certainly no paragon of spotless credentials. This looks and feels a lot more like whistling in the dark than actual objective fact.

    I also remain concerned that focusing on things like this that appear to be false leads will be like sleight of hand and distract us from a unified approach we could otherwise have with regards to things that might actually work.

    I appeal for more focus and less distractions. Another thing we could do is focus more on questions and lay off the premature conclusions. We – individually or collectively – know almost nothing about anything. We have lots of legitimate questions. We need to bend all our efforts to getting these questions answered.

  98. “Rush Limbaugh on Abercrombie and Obama’s Eligibility – 1/21/11”

  99. SeriouslySickOfObama | January 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm |

    ===================================

    You miss at least part of my point. The “nicey nicey” has been tried before – when someone using almost exactly your sentiments and your words requested it.

    You can go look for yourself. The only thing that happened was that FS thanked said person for wacking down the Obots, after which FS self-righteously continued on unabated.

    I got so frustrated that I simply quit posting for like two months. And NOTHING CHANGED. So after continuing to see my friends and good patriots repeatedly ravaged, I decided to “unsheath my sword until order had been restored”. So here I am.

    The situation here is very much like Chamberlain and Hitler. Or like Obama with Ah-mayonaise-jar. Will appeasement or “maximum civility” work or make things worse. The only thing I have to go on is the FACTS of what happened before. Let’s just watch and see.

  100. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle, GREAT START TO A DEBATE TOPIC!!! I have jet for awhile, but I will check back later. Thank you to everyone for listening to me and respecting CW to come together for the greater good!! I truly admire each of you that blog here and I read your comments, follow your links and watch your youtubes!

    GORDO, you know you are my favorite, LOL, SINCE YOU MENTIONED, ROFL!!

    Have a Great day and much love to you my dear friend, CW!!

  101. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm |

    John Roll may have been the REAL Target of Arizona gunman.

    =================================

    This is clearly a QUESTION that must be addressed. Presumably primarily by the investigators on the ground. But at this point, the question is old and stale. There is currently no evidence whatsoever that this is the case. It is not even clear that the congresswoman was really a specific target – other than a visible representation of “authority” and “establishment”. But there is at least emerging evidence that the assailant had a long-term grudge against her.

    So – at this point in time, this looks like a red herring and a diversion. The question then being – is this simply a diversion of ignorance – or is this a sleight of hand where “somebody” wants to misdirect our attention?

  102. SeriouslySickOfObama

    Carlyle, Just make an effort and expect change! It is worth the chance to try once more. So, we will wait and see and in the meantime, just blog about solutions to this HUGE issue we face! I respect your opinion and I have seen other post, but as you see, I validated Free Speech that I did in fact appreciate his credible sources and information and he in turn accepted my gesture to forgive and move forward in our task to work together. At the end of the day, it is how much respect you give and how much you receive that matters. Words are Obama’s thing, WE THE PEOPLE know words and feelings go hand and hand!!! Thank you again for trying. Maybe this is the day it works!!

  103. GORDO | January 21, 2011 at 2:21 pm |

    Hi GORDO, and thanks for the vid.

    I can’t believe Limbaugh is dancing around this like the Rockettes.

    He obviously knows the difference between ‘citizen’ and ‘natural born citizen’ yet, he harps on the ‘born in America’ routine, as do many others.

    He also must know about daddy Obama never having been an American citizen, and bestowing upon Barky dual citizenship at his birth.

    I’m becoming more and more convinced that the media, officials, judges, and anyone else who could do something about this fraud has been issued a gag order. Now, whether that’s just a ‘shut up about it’ or a physical threat to themselves and/or their families may never be known.

    What I do know is that this is collusion at a level we’ve never before seen.

  104. http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/sources-say-smackdown-of-obama-by-supreme-court-may-be-inevitable

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/is_obamacare_headed_for_a_supr.html

    —————————
    According to sources who watch the inner workings of the federal government, a smackdown of Barack Obama by the U.S. Supreme Court may be inevitable.

    Ever since Obama assumed the office of President, critics have hammered him on a number of Constitutional issues. Critics have complained that much if not all of Obama’s major initiatives run headlong into Constitutional roadblocks on the power of the federal government.
    ———————-
    There are 25 States suing the BO regime over BOcare; Countless BO cohorts have been and are being indicted; Arizona is suing the BO regime over his aiding and abetting the invasion of illegals and other States are considering similar suits. The BO regime has been sued over the drilling moratorium. There are many lawsuits pending against BO and BP over the BO/BP Disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.

    BO is obviously headed for multiple SCOTUS SMACKDOWNS in 2011.

  105. GORDO | January 21, 2011 at 2:21 pm | “Rush Limbaugh on Abercrombie and Obama’s Eligibility – 1/21/11″

    ————————————-
    Thanks Gordo!

    Hawaii BO! LOL! I LOVE IT!

  106. Guess they’re trying to get rid of the conservative justices before the coming smack down:
    (something else Rush mentioned today)

    Campaign Underway – Call for Investigation of Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas

    http://912communique.ning.com/forum/topics/campaign-underway-call-for

  107. SueK,
    You beat me to what I was going to say. Too orchestrated of a revelation, we are being played.

  108. Observer | January 21, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Guess they’re trying to get rid of the conservative justices before the coming smack down:
    (something else Rush mentioned today)

    Campaign Underway – Call for Investigation of Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas

    http://912communique.ning.com/forum/topics/campaign-underway-call-for

    ————————-

    One BO Follower has already assasinated a Federal Judge who opposed the BO regime. Hopefully, SCOTUS will have BO indicted, convicted and imprisoned before any of BO’s Followers attacks SCOTUS Justices.

  109. SSO aka Mom and CW aka Dad – rules have been set now it’s tough love time. Wish ya luck with that.

    I’m of the opinion that Gov Abercrombie is my new bestfriend. Why? B/c he epitomizes how a good leftie thinks. What do I mean? His hubris blinds his reality. You see he “thinks” he’s smart and will come to his lefties aid by opening the can of worms only to learn no one at the HDOH will lie for him. Apparently, like the rest of us, the bureaucrats are sick to death of giving cover who have been forced to dance around FOIA and UIPA laws. The Gov has learned his workforce is utterly unwilling to give “HIM” and his friend’s son cover.

    It is “HIS” oversized ego along with his corrupt pals that has betrayed the well kept secret of his old friends son.

    FS, Carlyle, Sir William and jbjd – what is your take on Prairie’s post regarding the end of the Constitution and the Congress. I have my thoughts but I’d value your thoughts as well. Thanks in advance.

  110. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 2:38 pm |

    ===================================

    Sure, a number of such things are underway. Some, but not many, may end up in USSC. But now while the Obamessiah is in office. At most they find some small element of ObamaCare unconstitutional.

    My assertion was however, that the eligibility issue will go nowhere in the USSC. I stand by that.

    Further, in the spirit of “protecting the institution – POTUS” very little will happen to him and if anything gets close the next president will pardon him.

    The quickest and easiest thing to “get” him – get him hard and get him now – is election fraud. But alas, no PTB seems interested in THAT either.

    So, where does that leave us?

  111. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm |

    ===========================

    My thought is quite simple.

    Vast parts of the Federal Government are unconstitutional and have been for decades. Almost all executive orders of any kind are unconstitutional and always have been. Across administrations across parties.

    Virtually all alphabet agencies are prima facie unconstitutional.

    I think Soetoro is just pushing the edges of the envelop a little farther. Dubya did that too – but I think BS has done more. But it is all incremental. You would be hard pressed to find anything specific to say “THIS is the thing that did it”.

    You may also go back and read stuff I wrote some months ago about Nuclear Finger and Continuity of Command. Under that heading you will discover that to ensure survivability of government, the POTUS was given total dictatorial power as early as the late 50’s. The theory being that the risk of national decapitation was worse than the risk of an evil president run amok.

    It this point in time – TODAY – I am much more concerned about the latter. But that’s just me. What can or will the congress do about it?

    Finally, you have to consider vote fraud and the ability to declare nationwide martial law. It is not at all clear there will be another fair election. Uh, was 2008 even fair?

    Another hint – the key to the reason BS cannot be deposed against his will – “He who has the Nuclear Football OWNS the world. Period”.

  112. Sue K – it appears the brilliant minds on the left hunkered down in Hawaii over the holidays and tasked the Gov to get the job done…i.e., slip in a forged bc that all of us have expected. This part of the game was a play.

    Lingle wasn’t willing to step into that quicksand and instead gave instruction to HDOH staff to stall the requestors. They did.

    My hunch is that its the staff that said hell no to the Gov. It’s the staff that said I will not be a party to this crime, that is slipping in a forged bc. What the Gov likely encountered was a staff so bludgeoned over these last two years that they all said enough is enough.

    Therefore, the Gov couldn’t get past “Go”. No one was willing to be paid off to look the other way. Which I’m sure came as a complete surprise to these crooks. They never dreamed the almighty dollar and a promise of a promotion wouldn’t intice someone to become part and parcel of their criminal cabal.

    The other thing to remember, as well, is if the entire gov’t apparatus knew there was no bc, and then one suddenly appeared, there may very well have been a complete meltdown of the Hawaii government.

    This is why the Gov was forced to admit, for the record, that there is only a notation in the archival records of said birth. Like Joe Farrah says, this notation is there because Grandma likely noted the birth for the record or if the Sodahead story I posted here earlier in the week is factual, Stanley Ann registered the birth after returning from Kenya.

  113. Now Sean Hannity just talked about the birth certificate!! I’ve heard all of them talk about it at different times, but not on the same day!! Maybe Hu Jintao wants his money back and told Obama if you don’t pay me back, I’m going to release your real birth info. Did you see the picture of Obama looking at Hu during the state dinner? He looked scared stiff, and he should be. He thought he could get away with it.

  114. Carlyle – thank you for your sharing your observations on these two stories.

    I find this last comment, well, scarey – “Another hint – the key to the reason BS cannot be deposed against his will – “He who has the Nuclear Football OWNS the world. Period”.

    This is without a doubt the truest statement I’ve ever read.

    We know about the three rogue nuclear missiles and have a pretty good idea where they are, and now we had a visit from China who themselves are sending troops to S Korea, I wonder aloud if the nuclear finger may be holding the entire world hostage at this point. And I may add that when a narcissist gets cornered and is backed up against a wall they become extremely dangerous.

  115. Free Speech.,..others……………….Here is a question that you should have no problem at all answering given your GURU status at CW blog. I read on Breitbart that the SCOTUS has ALLEGEDLY given ALL Federal,and State courts the right to reject,or otherwise DENY the Constitutional rights of anyone having an action in the particular court. Since when does the SCOTUS have such authority as to DENY THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF ANYONE? This has LONG been in evidence at the Fesderal Court level, and perhaps even at state level,but now for the SCOTUS to either IMPLY this or attempt to deny the Constitutional rights of ANYONE IS NOT WITHIN THEIR AUTHORITY. If this is accurate then our entire court system of America is totally corrupted, and SOON you will see these courts hiring MERCENARIES to enforce their version of any and all laws. This is the Chavez MODEL.

  116. Margie O | January 21, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
    Now Sean Hannity just talked about the birth certificate!! I’ve heard all of them talk about it at different times, but not on the same day!!
    ————————————————————————
    Now that is truly remarkable that someone as Sheepish as Sean would dare discuss the fact that the messiah has no Hawaiian BC.

    Sean would never discuss the missing BO unless he had been assured by the Powers that Be that BO is about to be legally removed.

    Next thing you know O’Reilly will ask BO on National TV before the Super Bown to produce his BC. What will BO do then?

  117. oldsalt79 | January 21, 2011 at 3:31 pm |

    Sorry os but that is BS.

  118. SeriouslySickOfObama
    is a patriot, friend and has been of tremendous assistance to this blog and efforts to reveal
    the truth about Obama.
    God bless.

  119. If OReilly was so ask Soetoro to appear on his show for the purpose of showing his alleged COLB (long form) my guess is that he and his family would jump aboard their private airliner,and fly off to another taxpayer financed vacation…………perhaps even in Kenya. After all there is now a MONUMENT to him for them to look at.

  120. Free Speech,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I thought you was going to STOP attacking the opinions of others……….This tells me that YOU are the PROBLEM not everyone else. You need TO PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREECH. SONNY!

  121. Prairie | January 21, 2011 at 2:47 pm |

    You betcha, Prairie…great minds think alike :).


  122. Sean just announced that legal action is being taken in Pima County Arizona to legally remove BO cohort Dupnik the Sheriff’s office of Pima County.

    Both BO and Dupnik should be indicted for Criminal Negligent Homicide in the murders of Judge Roll et al.

    Contact your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman and demand that they indict and prosecute BO and all his local co-conspirators for the Murders and False Imprisonment of Opponents of the BO regime, Birth Document Forgeries, TSA Sexual Assaults & Illegal Searches, Election Fraud, Voter Fraud, Identity Theft, Illegal Foreign Campaign Contributions, Aiding and Abetting of Muslim Terrorists, Poisoning of the Gulf of Mexico, Theft of Private Property, Embezzlement of Government funds, WikiLeaks etc.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html

  123. Hannity said Abercrommbie says he has the document but can’t release it, people would just have to take his word that it exists. Yeah, right.

  124. oldsalt79 | January 21, 2011 at 3:41 pm |

    I didn’t personally attack you os. I simply stated the FACT that the info that you posted is BS.

    Now, you would not intentionally post BS on CW would you os, so what is your problem?

  125. citizenwells | January 21, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
    SeriouslySickOfObama
    is a patriot, friend and has been of tremendous assistance to this blog and efforts to reveal
    the truth about Obama.
    God bless.

    ———————————————–
    Thank you, CW, for being a champion of Free Speech and all the great info that you have presented.

  126. Free Speech……………
    You can fire your puny little verbal weapons at others who offer their comments,but when you fire at me you are wasting your VERBS,and NOUNS. I have been fired at almost longer that you HAVE BEEN ON EARTH………LITTLE BOY. GOOD thing you was NEVER put among fighting men. You would have been crying for your mother, and running towards the nearest hole in the ground.

  127. CW………………….Feel free to put me in moderation.

  128. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 3:14 pm |

    Your scenario makes a lot of sense. The dumbo Gov may have arrogantly presumed too much …. and assumed the status quo of continual bureaucraticspeak cooperation would be ongoing. Cudos to all those who’ve driven the bureaucrats nutty with the intensive BC probing requests. Perhaps a refusal of any newly appearing “document” is what is behind the Obama “skinny scare”.

  129. bob strauss | January 21, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
    Hannity said Abercrommbie says he has the document but can’t release it, people would just have to take his word that it exists. Yeah, right.

    ——————————————-
    Rush got it right in his broadcast today when he intimated that BO and Abercrombie were scheming to prepare for BO to release of his expertly forged BC from his personal files, but evidently BO must be afraid that his forged BC will be proven to be a forgery.

    Regardless BO is already indictable for fraud for posting his forged COLB on the internet and falsely alleging that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii.

  130. bob strauss – read Farrah’s post titled “Old media now asking about bc”
    It’s very well done, IMHO. Read what the Gov really said –
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=253649

    “ABC led its story with, “Officials in Hawaii say they have located President Obama’s birth certificate indicating that he was born in the state, but have yet to produce the document at the heart of a long-simmering conspiracy theory.”

    Other reports noted, however, that Abercrombie referred only to having found an unspecified notation of the birth, not a long-form birth certificate.

    The wire service United Press International ran a story largely based on the ABC News account that stated, “Hawaii’s governor says President Obama’s birth certificate is ‘written down’ in state archives, but conspiracy theorists say they have yet to see it.”
    _____________

    The Gov stated the archival notation while the lamestream news outlets did their best to inflate the story. After what, three weeks, all the Gov has is a notation in the archives? Hello? A Governor can’t produce the long form bc within an hour or two? My goodness knows it is the only most sought after piece of paper ever known to man. You’d think the HDOH would long ago have placed said record in a vault w/guards for security purposes.

    They didn’t b/c they couldn’t. Obviously, Lingle wasn’t going to allow anyone to alter the record. She was willing to stall but that was it. The crooks who gathered in Hawaii over the holiday believed that now that she was gone and they had their guy at the helm they could slip in a forgery. They were wrong b/c the HDOH leadership isn’t willing to go to jail for this guy.

    Remember too, Fukino left her job when Lingle left. Think about that for a moment. Fukino was the appointed person w/i HDOH to stall and once Lingle was gone Fukino likely had no more cover and wasn’t willing to lie for the new Gov.

  131. Helen @3:14 pm

    Hi Helen,

    Just read your very concise post…was out moving another 6″ of ‘global warming, ‘ which is a fabolous addition to the 22″ we already had.

    Algore, call me :).

    Lemme reply paragraph by paragraph:

    ‘Sue K – it appears the brilliant minds on the left hunkered down in Hawaii over the holidays and tasked the Gov to get the job done…i.e., slip in a forged bc that all of us have expected. This part of the game was a play.’

    -This may be, but I feel that Aberbumble may have shot himself in the foot after alluding to the fact that there was ‘something’ proving Barky was born in Hawaii; talk about putting the cart before the horse, who’s gonna be led to water but refuse to drink. It’s probably something either gramma or trashmom scrawled on a bar napkin. If the good looking phony ‘birth certificate’ suddenly pops up, the new Guv will be outed as a big, fat liar; don’t forget that he said couldn’t locate the Real McCoy in the first place. If that happens, he’ll probably need a little Maui Wowie to take the edge off…

    ‘Lingle wasn’t willing to step into that quicksand and instead gave instruction to HDOH staff to stall the requestors. They did.’

    -Hedge, hedge, stall, stall. I was very surprised at Lingle, since she gave a bloody good speech for Palin when she was announced as the 2008 V.P. candidate. Every damned one of them is in on this scam.

    ‘My hunch is that its the staff that said hell no to the Gov. It’s the staff that said I will not be a party to this crime, that is slipping in a forged bc. What the Gov likely encountered was a staff so bludgeoned over these last two years that they all said enough is enough.

    Therefore, the Gov couldn’t get past “Go”. No one was willing to be paid off to look the other way. Which I’m sure came as a complete surprise to these crooks. They never dreamed the almighty dollar and a promise of a promotion wouldn’t intice someone to become part and parcel of their criminal cabal.’

    -I think you’re on to something, here. Let’s not forget that it’s not the Fukinos of the world who take it right between the eyes…it’s the employees making $10/hour. Not only the illegality of what was being asked of them, but the sheer disgust of being a party to the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on *any* citizenry. Some do have a conscience.

    Bottom line is that the newly elected ‘Governor’ has already shown himself to be a moron; I’m sure that the citizens of Hawaii are experiencing a huge case of voter remorse.

    What he thought he could ‘manufacture,’ he couldn’t, but that was after opening his mouth and firmly inserting right foot.

    Don’t be surprised if a ‘birth certificate’ pops up from another source who may be willing to do the job AND take the hush money…

  132. Sen. Demint just announced that the Senate Republicans will force a vote to repeal BOcare in the Senate.

    And he said that he will not vote to fund any of the provisions of BOcare.

  133. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 3:27 pm |

    Carlyle – thank you for your sharing your observations on these two stories.

    I find this last comment, well, scarey – “Another hint – the key to the reason BS cannot be deposed against his will – “He who has the Nuclear Football OWNS the world. Period”.
    _____________________________________________________

    This was a fear during Nixon’s end. He was kept a watch on by the “You Know Who”.

  134. Helen | January 21, 2011

    “the key to the reason BS cannot be deposed against his will”
    –————————-
    Helen, that is UTTER NONSENSE that BO “cannot be deposed against his will !”

    BO will be arrested and removed to undisclosed location by order of SCOTUS before he has a clue to what is happening.

  135. ms. helga – it’s the “You Know Who” who scare me even more…see hands thrown up in the air and me running…

    SueK – I’ve worked with bureaucrats throughout the majority of my career, and they are the salt of the earth if you’d ask me. I can’t imagine the pressure placed on these individuals, especially those on the frontlines like Fukino. And you are right, it’s these folks whose pay is paltry.

    As for Lingle? My hunch is the woman wasn’t given a choice. Tow the party line or suffer the consequences. So, she likely had to suck it up and eat crow. I’m sure her tenure as Governor was the worst four years of her professional career, that is in the sense of knowing what she knew and that always hanging over her head. I know I couldn’t do it. Not for a Party.

    For all you and I know, the R leadership may very well have pressured her to slip a forged document into that pretend gold plated vault, but she stood her ground and said no. Not on my watch. Which is precisely why the D’s are in the pickle they are in and the R’s are going to have to do something about it.

  136. Keep fighting the good fight, stay safe, God Bless.

  137. FS – please point to the time of these words you are crediting me with. They are not mine. Maybe the ones in the Farrah article I quoted?

  138. Helen, do you think that BO “cannot be deposed against his will?”

  139. oldsalt79 | January 21, 2011 at 3:50 pm |

    ==================================

    The problem is SO EASY to fix. For the life of me, I cannot understand why it has not been fixed before now.

  140. Ah FS, you are responding to Carlyle’s comment to me. got it.

    Personally, I do not care one iota how the entire criminal cabal is taken out. Just as long as nobody has a twitchie finger and the people of this world remain safe.

  141. A MUST READ EXTRAORDINARILY EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!

    “IN SEARCH OF THE HOLY GRAIL OF DOCUMENTS – THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE”

    By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
    Thursday, January 20, 2011

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/01/in-search-of-holy-grail-of-documents.html

    Excerpt:

    “In short, should it be that difficult for Hawaii Governor Abercrombie to locate Obama’s long-form birth certificate in the records of the Hawaii Health Department or otherwise confirm with medical records from Hawaiian hospital, Kapi’olani Medical Center, that Obama was born in that hospital? Who are we kidding here?”

    An Excellent Comment by Attorney Mario Apuzzo:

    “Puzo1 said…

    Doublee,

    A “direct and tangible interest” is defined by Hawaii statute Section 338-18 the text of which you can obtain from the internet.

    The Federal government or a state doing a criminal investigation does not need a “direct and tangible interest” to obtain the birth certificate or some related documents. Such a government (e.g. Congressional committee, a federal grand jury, state grand jury) can simply issue a subpoena and obtain whatever documents and/or testimony it is looking for, subject to whatever privacy rights or privilege the target may be able to assert.”

    January 21, 2011 8:03 AM

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

  142. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 2:52 pm |

    One BO Follower has already assasinated a Federal Judge who opposed the BO regime.

    =================================

    This is the kind of stuff we must stop dead in it’s tracks. There is not the slightest evidence of any assassination. All evidence points to the fact that the judge was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Further there is even less evidence that Commander Zero and his Flying Minkeys had anything to do with it.

    If we are going to have a more civilized discussion here, we can start by foregoing the baseless accusations.

  143. Puzo1 said…

    Doublee,

    A “direct and tangible interest” is defined by Hawaii statute Section 338-18 the text of which you can obtain from the internet.

    The Federal government or a state doing a criminal investigation does not need a “direct and tangible interest” to obtain the birth certificate or some related documents. Such a government (e.g. Congressional committee, a federal grand jury, state grand jury) can simply issue a subpoena and obtain whatever documents and/or testimony it is looking for, subject to whatever privacy rights or privilege the target may be able to assert.”

    —————–
    Mario is correct about this.

    http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/12/the-power-of-the-grand-jury-can-be-ours-once-again/

  144. Ex presstv.ir: CIA Official: Patriot Act, A Nazi Law
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=193878

  145. Re: Helen | January 21, 2011 at 4:08 pm |

    bob strauss – read Farrah’s post titled “Old media now asking about bc”
    It’s very well done, IMHO. Read what the Gov really said –

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=253649

    “ABC led its story with, “Officials in Hawaii say they have located President Obama’s birth certificate indicating that he was born in the state, but have yet to produce the document at the heart of a long-simmering conspiracy theory.”

    Other reports noted, however, that Abercrombie referred only to having found an unspecified notation of the birth, not a long-form birth certificate.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Hi Helen,

    This addresses your post:

    A MUST READ EXTRAORDINARILY EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!

    “IN SEARCH OF THE HOLY GRAIL OF DOCUMENTS – THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE”

    By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
    Thursday, January 20, 2011

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/01/in-search-of-holy-grail-of-documents.html

  146. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 4:29 pm |

    Helen, that is UTTER NONSENSE that BO “cannot be deposed against his will !”

    =================================

    Well, there you have it. “The Truce” lasted less than 2 hours.

    I do not accept Free Speech as the policeman of either the people or the facts/opinions as stated on this blog. As blog owner, I would accept CW doing that. Unless FS is the blog owner – this to totally uncatagorically rejected.


  147. One BO Follower has already assasinated a Federal Judge who opposed the BO regime. Hopefully, SCOTUS will have BO indicted, convicted and imprisoned before any of BO’s Followers attacks SCOTUS Justices.

    Both BO and Dupnik should be indicted for Criminal Negligent Homicide in the murders of Judge Roll et al.

  148. Starla – anyone who has been following this saga would agree that the new D Gov could have placed his fingers on the “holy grail” and shown it to the world within the first hour after he was sworn into office.

    That is, if their was said document, and the Gov, as SueK aptly described as a moron, stepped right into the trap. You just know Lingle and Fukino are somewhere toasting a glass of bubbly. Their personal nightmares are over and now the nation must deal, once and for all, with the removal of this entire criminal cabal hellbent on removing our collective beacon of freedom.

  149. “U.S. SUPREME COURT ISSUES LANDMARK DECISION: CONSTITUTION IS VOID”

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20110118.CL31921&show_article=1

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Can a legally trained person explain what this means?

  150. One BO Follower has already assasinated a Federal Judge who opposed the BO regime. Hopefully, SCOTUS will have BO indicted, convicted and imprisoned before any of BO’s Followers attacks SCOTUS Justices.

    Both BO and Dupnik should be indicted for Criminal Negligent Homicide in the murders of Judge Roll et al.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligent_homicide

    Negligent homicide is a criminal charge brought against people who, through criminal negligence, allow others to die.

  151. Starla | January 21, 2011 at 5:01 pm | “U.S. SUPREME COURT ISSUES LANDMARK DECISION: CONSTITUTION IS VOID”

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20110118.CL31921&show_article=1

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Can a legally trained person explain what this means?

    ———————————–
    It means nothing. This is not a landmark case and it does NOT in any way void the Constitution.

  152. GBAmerica – here is what Wayne Madsen had to say about this recent Bin Laden the boogie man threat – “Nicolas Sarkozy’s imitation of “Bin Laden” isn’t very good, his Arabic is full of French expressions like “sacre bleu” and “incroyable.”

    When one of these commie leaders needs to get their poll numbers up they always, and I mean always pull out this boogie man card. The only outfits set up to do such deeds are controlled and paid for by the elite to fearmonger. Will an event take place, likely, but it’s not Osama and gang.

    Go to YouTube sometime and put in the words Bhutto + Osama + dead. You’ll be amazed how many vids pop up with Bhutto, Bhutto’s hub and former CIA agents telling you the man either died in Bora Bora or at a hospital in Dubai due to kidney failure.

  153. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm |

    =================================

    Let me elaborate and I hope people will listen up. I have tried to explain this before, but apparently has not yet properly sunk in.

    One great key to getting to the core of many discussion here is that Mr. FS/LPH is obsessed with THEORY. Myself, Carlyle, could give a rat’s azz about theory. I am ONLY interested in PRACTICE.

    Here are some cases in point – all of which FS is correct as to the theory. But here are the PRACTICAL facts. And I can explain the logic of each one – which he cannot. Faced with challenges like this, he simply lashes out and calls people names. But here are some of the big ones.

    1. Citizen Grand Juries as advocated by FS are self-evidently DOA. I have explained why before and can again. My logic has never been refuted by ANYONE.

    2. Some crimes are too big to prosecute. Some people are too powerful to prosecute. In theory, no. In practice, yes.

    3. Clearly, the constitution and the congress have provisions for removing a “bad” president. We all agree to that. But they are predicated on everybody being “adults” and everybody being “patriots” – at least to a degree. But ever since the nuclear age and the power that was given the president, the country has NO PROTECTION against a rogue president. NONE! If anybody wants to challenge me on this, simply spell out a scenario of how the president would be “removed”. I will then tell you how he can successfully prevent himself being removed. If I know how to do that (and then you will also), it is ludicrous to assume that the PTBs (including CZ and all his FM’s) don’t know also. If he agrees to go, fine. If his handlers want him to go, maybe fine. But if he wants to stay bad enough, he stays. EVEN WITH BEING PROVEN NOT A CITIZEN. I can prove this simply and easily.

    Also, from a couple of days ago – and relevant to some of your questions and points:

    We know we are right. And getting BS removed would certainly salve our egos. But given the HUGE conspiracy that got him in power, would removing just him accomplish very much at all? What would be the price domestically of removing him? What would be the price internationally of removing him? In particular, what is the international price of a “succession crisis”? Is it worth it? Are we willing to pay all these prices? Just to salve our egos?

    Or thinking about it differently – what is the relative risk to continuing with a madman with his finger on the Nuclear Button and destroying the economy – vs – the risk of chaos of removing him?

    I don’t think we know the answers to these things. I think we should discuss them. To not consider them seems irresponsible.

    Further the PTBs are scared spitless. Scared of what? Why? How will it affect their ability to “do what is right”. How many PTBs do you think care anything at all about “right” vs “pragmatic” or even “what can I get away with”?

  154. Paxon,

    Evidently you did not hear what Rush had to say today about BO’s missing BC.

  155. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 5:06 pm |

    Both BO and Dupnik should be indicted for Criminal Negligent Homicide in the murders of Judge Roll et al.

    =============================

    It is indeed appearing that Dupnik could have and should have done more. Does that rise to the level of negligence? Probably not. But I fail to see what “BO” has to do with any of this.

    It would help if you quit making flagrant accusations and explained things. At least give several bullet points of probable cause – or even a chain of logic. As it is, just as stand alone statements, they sound more like rants than helpful comments.

  156. Both BO and Dupnik are clearly guilty of Criminally Negligent Homicide in the murders of Judge Roll et al for failing to provide the BO critics Judge Roll and Congresswoman Giffords with protection from the BO Supporter Arizona Killer Loughner.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligent_homicide

    Negligent homicide is a criminal charge brought against people who, through criminal negligence, allow others to die.

    Constitutionalist Judge John Roll may have been the REAL Target of Arizona gunman.


    Giffords Opposition to BHO regime

  157. “HAWAII GOVERNOR CLAIMS RECORDS OF OBAMA’S “BIRTH”
    “EXISTS IN ARCHIVES” BUT CAN’T PRODUCE THE VITAL DOCUMENT”

    By Daily Mail Reporter
    20th January 2011

    Excerpt:

    “Governor Neil Abercrombie is facing renewed pressure over Obama’s Hawaiian origins.”

    “Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there.
    Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.

    He told Honolulu’s Star-Advertiser: ‘It actually exists in the archives, written down,’ he said.

    But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama’s birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate.

    And in the same interview Abercrombie suggested that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.
    He said efforts were still being made to track down definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii.”

    Read More Here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348916/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.html#ixzz1Bi8al7nq

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

  158. Paxson – thanks for the link to Lame Cherry. This is the part that is most telling –

    “This is deliberate by Limbaugh and as I have stated, if the reality of Limbaugh in how he backs Obama over McCain, how Limbaugh installed this Gridlock as that is what he wanted and not majorities to overturn Obama, get into the heads of people on the right, they are going to figure out thee mass betrayal of America of Limbaugh and once that 10 percent starts chattering, then Limbaugh looses 75% of market share and he is finished.

    Benedict Arnold Limbaugh is the problem as he always has been in those who coated themselves in Reagan’s cape while being stage acts for the patricians.

    As of this moment, Mark Levin has been true to America. He worked his tail off for the 2010 elections and the Tea Party while Limbaugh made it about him and Hannity kept ruining things by putting in ringers like Mark Simone to call Tea Party candidates CRAZY.

    Michael Savage has been constant. Laura Ingraham has been very good at documenting Obama, so do not think that you have to put up with this Obamite ringers calling you names.

    That part of America is still functioning. Pull the plug on the traitors who just smeared you as nuts who belong in prison and instead listen to and buy the products of the sponsors who are backing Conservatives.

    Birthers are the one pure segment of America still functioning in the Republic in Constitutional Law.

    Why did Rush Limbaugh just smear them with lies and come up with his Obama conspiracy theory which is ludicrous as the Birthers are undoing everything Obama did for 2 years.

    Ask yourself why if Rush Limbaugh is not a complete traitor and always has been.

    Limbaugh called all the work Birthers did in 2010 nothing but a pile of dog sh*t and they are the fumes creating a stench in America.

    Like your Limbaugh definition of you Birthers?

    I do not in the least.

    In the Age of Obama, the Limbaugh Rovian political rape continues on the Tea Party.
    ________________
    YOWZA!!!

  159. Helen,

    Evidently you did not hear what Rush had to say today about BO’s missing BC.

  160. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm |

    =================================

    This is the kind of stuff we must stop dead in it’s tracks. There is not the slightest evidence of any assassination. All evidence points to the fact that the judge was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    It is indeed appearing that Dupnik could have and should have done more. Does that rise to the level of negligence? Probably not. But I fail to see what “BO” has to do with any of this.

    It would help if you quit making flagrant accusations and explained things. At least give several bullet points of probable cause – or even a chain of logic. As it is, just as stand alone statements, they sound more like rants than helpful comments.

    Further there is even less evidence that Commander Zero and his Flying Minkeys had anything to do with it.

    If we are going to have a more civilized discussion here, we can start by foregoing the baseless accusations.

  161. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/01/definition-of-birther-and-definition-of.html

    There is a clear, concise definition of the term “Natural Born Citizen” in Vattel’s Law of Nations which was the principal legal reference book used by the Founding Fathers in writing the Constitution.

    “The natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

    There have been innumerable United States Supreme Court Decisions that have referenced Vattel’s Law of Nations as a resource in interpreting the original intent of the Founding Fathers when writing the Constitution.

  162. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm |

    Neither had I, FS. I’m not hearing the same thing LC is claiming. What an odd situation.

  163. Helen,
    Thank you!I’m looking it up.

  164. Alternative theories behind Gov. Abercrombie’s triggering a pretext for media to take up the ‘birth certificate’ issue:

    1. He was duped by a right wing operative (pretending to be of the left) to believe, in fact, there WAS birth documentation.

    2. He was duped by a Team Hillary operative to believe there WAS birth documentation.

    3. He secretly, intentionally worked with Team Hillary to create the pretext for media, knowing none exists.

    4. He is just mentally unstable and bumbling and bungling and really thought there was documentation.

  165. Records Show T-Shirts Cost University of Arizona $60,000+ for Obama’s “Together We Thrive” Tucson Event
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/weeklyupdate/2011/03-jw-battles-tuition-benefits-illegal-aliens#anchor3

  166. Another thought provoking article by Mr. Pauly. I hasten to add that Mr. Pauly did give Attorney Phil Berg high marks for his legal work in a previous article.

    Standing problems is one of the primary reasons that I urged all the major Eligibility Lawyers to focus on Grand Jury Indictments in Febuary of 2009.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/21/how-to-gain-standing-regarding-obama/

    “If you do not raise the correct Subject Matter jurisdictional issues and make a valid claim, then the courts are not bound to take the subject matter jurisdiction that you fail to raise into consideration. The rules of procedure bind the judges to consider rights that are not raised to be voluntarily waived and this is what both the rules of procedures and the Supreme court has determined.

    As you can see, these attorneys cannot even get one of the five jurisdictional hurdles of standing figured out, let alone all five of them, and thus craft a petition that passes entry level. Isn’t this rather pathetic? So, the next time you want to direct any vitriol towards the government, the courts, the legal system, or the judges over the handling of Obama cases, perhaps you will direct your emotions towards those that are most deserving of rebuke which is those attorneys who have proven their worthlessness regarding their capability of crafting a proper case.”

  167. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm |

    Neither had I, FS. I’m not hearing the same thing LC is claiming. What an odd situation.

    —————–

    Yes it is odd that LC would attack Rush on the very day that he questions BO’s missing BC. Honestly, LC articles are amuzing but they do not make a whole lot sense.

  168. Helen is this what you were talking about???

  169. FS – I like Lame, but when he/she goes out into the ether I get lost. Honestly, I heard Rush, who I am no fan of, saying pretty much what many of us are saying about the oddity of Abercrombie’s on the record statements. You can almost hear his “glee” that this fella has really blown the cover – unintentionally is my best guess.

    I hope you are sincere GB America about searching YT. There is a wealth of info there all would benefit from learning. Sincerely. All of us have to eventually arrive at the place that neither of the two Parties leaders for forever now have been forthright. And we as the people, not a label, must get to this place sooner rather than later. All of us have been deceived and for a very long time now.

  170. Ted | January 21, 2011

    Do you really think that while BO was in Hawaii in December, he did not meet with his family friend Gov. Abercrombie about his forged BC?

  171. GBAmerica – that is one of many. But you found one. Thank you, sincerely for searching and sharing.

  172. Mark Levin is now spoofing Abercrombie on the missing BC. I can’t wait to hear Savage tonight.

  173. Philo-Publius

    CW in case you missed the credit given you at GiveUsLiberty in today’s posting: WHICH COLB DOES OBAMA WANT US TO BELIEVE IS LEGIT?

    ….blogger Citizen WElls discovered, on December 7, that Fukino was no longer DOH director!
    http://tinyurl.com/4vc649e

    Nice comparison photos of Obama’s 4 COLB

  174. http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/4-versions-of-obamas-certificate-of-live-birth/

    If all four are Obama’s COLB, why are there these differences? How can any serious person be expected to accept an online image of a COLB as evidence of Obama’s American birth? If anyone tries to introduce these four online images — which are different from one another – as evidence in court, they’d be found at a minimum to be in contempt, or more likely be charged with outright fraud.

    So next time some brainwashed mindnumbed Obamabot tells you that Obama really is constitutionally eligible because he’s produced his COLB, blah blah blah, just ask him/her:

    Erh, which online image of Obama’s COLB do you mean? Is it Image #1? Or is it Image #2? Or is it Image #3? Or is it Image #4? Or is it none of those?

  175. Maybe Lamecherry is screwing with Linbaugh’s brain for not coming all the way out and just dancing around the edges.

  176. Hi Helen and GB,

    GB, and now, Mrs. Bhutto’s dead. Her words were very prophetic and she was a bona fide bright spot in the Middle Eastern sewer.

    A few years ago while working in another ‘program,’ we did get word from an impeccable source that BinLaden was indeed dead. I’m sure that the global PTB have known this for quite some time.

    Notice that ‘his’ tapes are now all audio tapes; there hasn’t been a vid of him talking his trash for several years. Back in 2006, I want to say, there were reports of him having advanced kidney disease, and a ton of unsubstantiated reports came through that he actually had portable dialysis equipment at Bora Bora. That was a stretch. Even if he did have some type of blood cleansing equipment, dialysis is finite and you’re only good for maybe a couple of years.

    So, yes, we trust this source and yes, he is dead.

    Why, then, do they perpetuate his being alive and not announce that he has gone to his final resting place in Hell? A popular theory is that the world knows ‘Big, Bad Bin’ and what he’s capable of. The Jihadists want his ghost to provide the fear factor to anyone who might cross them, or stop them in their quest to Islamicize the planet; after all, look at what he did on 9/11, right? Their hero…..

    So, he’s very much alive……to them.

  177. http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/4-versions-of-obamas-certificate-of-live-birth/
    ————————–


    BO committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii. BO should be immediately indicted for fraud. BO should be indicted immediately for fraud.

  178. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 5:44 pm |

    ================================

    LC has a “hate” going against Limbaugh for many months. It colors everything he says/does with respect to Limbaugh. I would take anything he says in this regard with a grain of salt. Sad but true.

    I am dissappointed in Limbaugh not making a bigger noise about this earlier. But that does not mean I instantly presume RL is a BS butt licker. But that seems to be LC’s position.

  179. Hello SueK!,
    I’m looking and reading about it now,unbelievable.Yes I do agree what you are saying about the Fear Factor definitely.
    On another topic due to a video someone wanted me to see.What is weird to me they mention Obama in this video.
    The language is not VERY NICE!Alot of cussing .
    But what gets me is Tupac died before Obama became President????Let me know what you think???Just very strange.

  180. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 7:22 pm |

    ==================================

    THERE IS NO DATA ON WHICH TO CONVICT SOETORO.

    Another fine example of misinformation. This is premature. We/you do not know what is on-file in Hawaii. By prematurely jumping to conclusions you greatly detract from the real business at hand here. Such misinformation and misdirection is not what we should be about here. We should be taking the high path. We do not want to be like our enemies. Remember how they used disinformation and premature conclusions to manufacutre Bush Derangement Syndrome? Well, likewise, we need to stay on the right side of ODS.

  181. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 7:22 pm |

    ==========================

    PS – I do however think there is clear data on election fraud – I think he could be charged and convicted over that rather immediately. No? Let’s all harp on that for a while. That feels like a reasonable and credible thing to do. It does not require ODS. Just simple easily available facts.

  182. I was surprised to hear Limbaugh describe Fukima as “he” throughout his talk. Limbaugh does not seem too informed on the issue. And I hoped he would bring up the fact that when Abercrombie took over that Fukima and I believe 11 other members of her staff were given the boot. Hey, at least it’s a first step.

  183. Carlyle | January 21, 2011 at 7:47 pm |

    Oh for God’s sake, Carlyle. There is plenty of data with which to indict and convict Obama. Did you read Evelyn Pringle’s series of articles? Did you look at the illegal funneling of campaign dollars in Ohio? Have you been reading the stuff on this blog, Flopping Aces etc.? There is a truck load of stuff that just needs to see the light of day in the mainstream. These aren’t just some wild eyed theories..

    While I do agree that we need to maintain a sense of decorum, don’t go overboard with the sanctimonious attack on FS (and I am not saying that he is not without flaws like the rest of us).

  184. Carlyle – we are not privvy to the current R game plan. However, we know, for a fact, that had Lingle come out and stated Hawaii had no bc on record, which we now have, she would have been shredded…as in a machine that shreds evidence.

    The R’s, not the Rino’s or fake conservative R’s, all those leftovers from the Bushies, needed to gain control of one of the two chambers. The people gave them this victory in 2010.

    Thus, now they MUST SERVE THE PEOPLE of this great nation and by extension the rest of this WORLD by exposing, and accepting their own damned culpability IN THIS MESS, by cleansing DC of the bottom feeders.

    These men and women who have been given the reigns of power can no longer fool the electorate. More and I mean more citizens are awakening and these citizens, who never wrote the first letter or made the first phone call to their elected leadership, have had enough!

    The line in the sand has been drawn and now it is up to Boehner to lead the charge. He has ample ammo to win, therefore, we the people must continue to apply the necessary pressure to make sure these leaders, WE the PEOPLE, have given power too, do not go astray.

  185. kiltie | January 21, 2011 at 7:54 pm |
    I was surprised to hear Limbaugh describe Fukima as “he” throughout his talk. Limbaugh does not seem too informed on the issue. And I hoped he would bring up the fact that when Abercrombie took over that Fukima and I believe 11 other members of her staff were given the boot. Hey, at least it’s a first step.
    __________________________

    Kiltie – do tell, 11 other members of her staff were ousted. Lordy, do you have a link or a pdf for such a sea change?

  186. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

    In January of 2009, I advised some of the most prominent Eligibility Attorneys that they should file their cases directly with SCOTUS invoking the Original Jurisdiction Clause of Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution.

    It is noteworthy that it has been over two years since I first began to write about Original Jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of cases against Barack Hussein Obama and, to date, BHO’s lawyers have never been able to refute the Fact that SCOTUS has Original Jurisdiction over cases against BHO.

  187. SueK,
    The reason for me putting up that video is maybe the people in that video might know something we do not about Barry.Just a thought???A try???
    Maybe they knew of him back then????

  188. Paxson,

    Yes, you are correct there is prima facie evidence that both BO and Gibbs are guilty of Fraud pertaining to the forged COLB that they had posted on the internet and for the false allegation that BO’s Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii.

  189. Where is the media on this little tidbit???? If this doesn’t undermine our national security, then what does? This is right at our Southern door folks!
    The Obama administration must be stopped now.

    Obama Admin Lobbying Honduras To Allow Zelaya Back In? Are You Kidding?

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-admin-lobbying-honduras-to-allow-zelaya-back-in-are-you-kidding/?singlepage=true

  190. Sorry, Helen. No link…I’m a great (or was) typist but computers came into being long after my old Smith Corona. I read about Fukimo being replaced, plus all her staff (12 in all I seem to remember) at the Post & Email initially, then something in Free Republic. It’s not unusual for a new Governor to replace appointees, but everyone was buzzing about the whole department of health being replaced. May have read something on Hillbuzz about it, too.

  191. If this doesn’t undermine our national security, then what does? This is right at our Southern door folks!
    The Obama administration must be stopped now.

    Obama Admin Lobbying Honduras To Allow Zelaya Back In? Are You Kidding?

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-admin-lobbying-honduras-to-allow-zelaya-back-in-are-you-kidding/?singlepage=true

    —————

    This is not Lobbying this is extortion by BO.

  192. kiltie – appreciate your response. I’m going to start digging. to replace an entire staff like that is not the norm. like i said, i’ve been working w/bureaucrats my entire career. i can tell you, and anyone else reading this post, unequivocally, an incoming D or R to whatever statehouse does not eliminate an entire staff, that is unless they were corrupt. This being the only caveat.

    But to learn that moron A fired this entire dept is stunning AND speaks volumes. It also gives all of us an opportunity to take a deep breath and give support to those in Hawaii at the Health Dept our support. We need to fortify their perimeter and say to moron A – dude, get over your self important arse b/c you aren’t going to destroy this dept or those who have worked here for ???? years!

    These good people are our neighbors, friends we bbq w/on the weekend or a fella or gal we might catch dinner w/before heading home. Salt of the earth folks.

    How do we protect them? I have lots of ideas, but would like to learn/hear yours.

  193. GBAmerica | January 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm |

    Hi GB!!!!

    By all means, do a bit of research and see what you come up with; I know you’re a terrific researcher :). I can’t cite my sources, but you can trust that you got this from the horse’s mouth. That would be me…

    OK, I listened (or tried to listen) to the vid you posted. The trick is to try to filter out the numerous ‘F’ bombs and understand what they’re trying to say. From what I can gather, Tupac knew quite a bit about the Illuminati and wanted to get rid of them. Not sure if Barky was a Senator at the time but there was obviously some sort of connection between he and Tupac. And we already know that Barky knows about the Illuminati on an intimate level.

    Why was Obama mentioned in this if he was still a ‘nobody’?

    It is weird.

    I’d like to have heard the callers, but the vid ended. The ‘hosts’, however, did seem to feel that there was involvement. I was not/am not now, a fan of Rap, but I was never comfortable with the explanation of Tupac Shakur’s murder.

    Thanks for posting….more to chew on (like we don’t already have enough!).

  194. Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Fri, January 21, 2011 — 9:06 PM ET
    —–

    MSNBC Says It Has Ended Keith Olbermann’s Contract

    In a statement, MSNBC said, “the last broadcast of ‘Countdown
    with Keith Olbermann’ will be this evening.”

    Yowza! Yowza! Yowza! Keith is gone as of tonight….hhhhmmmmm ya think Keith felt lied to by Immelt

  195. and the crappola spewing from morons about 0’s eligibility? ya think he went on a rant b/c he felt betrayed? felt used? felt as though his own integrity was compromised b/c Immelt has lied to him for three years now? hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm……………….

  196. Paxson | January 21, 2011 at 7:55 pm |

    Oh for God’s sake, Carlyle. There is plenty of data with which to indict and convict Obama.

    =======================

    Read again. I was disputing a single topic. I then followed with another topic for which there seemed to be plenty of data.

    Just because no one is supposed to call people names, I will still call out nonsense or unworkable ideas. I demand (as well you should also) that we try to stay focused. Misinformation, disinformation, and wandering all over the back 40 does not help. Of a particularly disruptive nature is making accusations or stating things as facts that cannot be substantiated.

    If we collectively wish any credibility – and therefore any hope of solving this problem – we must avoid rabid ODS. That is all.

  197. Hollywood helps Rahm haul in $10.6M
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47924.html

    Look at whois backing Rahm!

  198. Keith gone???? AAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    He was THE most vile, obnoxious, sarcastic and narcissistic person ever on tv. Good Riddance

  199. Helen @ 9:23 pm

    Ya know, Helen, in any love relationship it’s devastating to realize you’ve been used and betrayed, isn’t it?
    🙂

  200. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 8:07 pm |

    =============================

    Yes, there is much to fix. And I am enthusiastic about doing so. But I think we need to try harder to understand what (and how) we can fix in the near-term, and what are long-term projects – and not get the two confused.

    Whining and pitching little princess fits because “the constitution says we can do it” is juvenile at best, and likely misdirection or worse.

    It is certainly OK to review and refresh ourselves of what the constitution allows and demands. But THEN we need to add a dose of sanity and practicality. The most important initial distinction being: “What is the current state of common practice”. Anything that involves overturning or slowing the awesome momentum of common practice is a long-term project. It is really quite simple.

    Further, in my view, that is why any discussion of NBC is DOA. Common practice has let this whole concept fade into oblivion. And I can GUARANTEE you that neither congress or the USSC will “clean up the definition” in a detrimental way DURING THE TERM of a questionable president.

    That is why I am against diddling with NBC and hoping and digging that BS is not a citizen at all – or some other fatal flaw. That is the only hope in regards eligibility.

    Of course, another theory is that he can get impeached just for being a dickhead and the worst president ever – specifically his domestic destruction of the economy and his anti-American foreign shenanigans.

  201. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 8:21 pm |

    It is noteworthy that it has been over two years since I first began to write about Original Jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of cases against Barack Hussein Obama and, to date, BHO’s lawyers have never been able to refute the Fact that SCOTUS has Original Jurisdiction over cases against BHO.

    =======================================

    Contrare!

    I think Mario Apuzzo did an excellent job of indicating the nature and quality of your “contributions”.

  202. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 8:39 pm |

    Paxson,

    Yes, you are correct there is prima facie evidence that both BO and Gibbs are guilty of Fraud pertaining to the forged COLB that they had posted on the internet and for the false allegation that BO’s Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii.

    =========================

    Again – not true. Gibbs has taken total responsibility for that. BO has had nothing to do with it or nothing to say about it. He is a more clever adversary than you give him credit for. There are a LOT of people that can get thrown under the bus before the hatchet gets to the Obamessiah.

    Further, I think there are probably a couple of ways Gibbs can claim plausible deniability also.

    Come on folks – we need to FOCUS.

    Let’s swear off ODS and try to help FIX the problem.

  203. In January of 2009, I advised some of the most prominent Eligibility Attorneys that they should file their cases directly with SCOTUS invoking the Original Jurisdiction Clause of Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution.

    It is noteworthy that it has been over two years since I first began to write about Original Jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of cases against Barack Hussein Obama and, to date, BHO’s lawyers have never been able to refute the Fact that SCOTUS has Original Jurisdiction over cases against BHO.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/taking-aka-obama-directly-before-scotus.html

  204. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 9:00 pm |

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    THIS IS EXTREMELY BAD!

    Of all the stupid and anti-American things BS has done on the international stage, this may be the worst.

    Other things (like Iran, and Israel, and NorKo) may ultimately have more impact – but philosophically and ideologically, this is the worst.

  205. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm |

    ============================

    Did he do or say something – or just out of the blue?

  206. Carlyle | January 21, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
    Paxson | January 21, 2011 at 7:55 pm |

    Oh for God’s sake, Carlyle. There is plenty of data with which to indict and convict Obama.

    =======================

    Read again. I was disputing a single topic. I then followed with another topic for which there seemed to be plenty of data.

    Just because no one is supposed to call people names, I will still call out nonsense or unworkable ideas. I demand (as well you should also) that we try to stay focused. Misinformation, disinformation, and wandering all over the back 40 does not help. Of a particularly disruptive nature is making accusations or stating things as facts that cannot be substantiated.

    If we collectively wish any credibility – and therefore any hope of solving this problem – we must avoid rabid ODS. That is all.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    Carlyle, I shouldn’t have said anything, and I apologize. But I said something to FS last night and tonight I said something to you. I should learn to mind my own business, which I have tried very hard to do. I am just so sick of all of the STUPID bickering, and it is freaking STUPID. FS is not an Obot, you are not an Obot, Cabby and Sir William are not Obots, Old Salt is a friend, a war veteran and all of our senior and should be respected.

    On a daily basis, you egg FS on and FS lashes out doing things that he knows gets on your nerves (unfortunately it gets on other people’s nerves too). It’s just old. But I apologize to everyone for getting involved. It isn’t my place and I am sorry.

  207. http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/21/how-to-gain-standing-regarding-obama/

    As you can see, these attorneys cannot even get one of the five jurisdictional hurdles of standing figured out, let alone all five of them, and thus craft a petition that passes entry level. Isn’t this rather pathetic? So, the next time you want to direct any vitriol towards the government, the courts, the legal system, or the judges over the handling of Obama cases, perhaps you will direct your emotions towards those that are most deserving of rebuke which is those attorneys who have proven their worthlessness regarding their capability of crafting a proper case.

  208. GBAmerica | January 21, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    GBAmerica | January 21, 2011 at 9:44 pm |

    But, but, GB…where are the *really* famous celebs throwing money at Rahm-it? Where are Susan Saran-wrap, Whoopass Goldberg, Barbra Head-in-the-(Strei)Sand, Joy Be-har-dee-har-har and the rest of the Hollywood moonbat crowd?

    Where are they???

    Thanks for the link….I’ll take a peek!

  209. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

    When I first began writing about the “Natural Born Citizen” qualification for the Presidency, few lawyers had an understanding of what I meant. Fewer still, had read the basis for that Constitutional language derived by our Founding Fathers from Vattel’s Law of Nations. At the time of its publication, Vattel’s Law of Nations was used as a textbook in colleges in the United States and Europe. Furthermore, it was the principal legal treatise used by our Founding Fathers in writing our Constitution. To this day, the Law of Nations is still used as a reference text by such legal scholars as Justice Antonin Scalia.

  210. Free Speech 8:21 PM
    BHO’s lawyers have never been able to refute the Fact that SCOTUS has Original Jurisdiction over cases against BHO.
    ***************************************
    Pardon me, but when did BHO’s lawyers have the chance in court to “refute the Fact that SCOTUS has original Jurisdiction over cases against BHO”? I don’t seem to remember that issue ever arising in a case presented to any judiciary.
    Now, if you say that they didn’t refute the position that you have set forth, that is an insufficient conclusion. When did you ever challenge any of BHO’s attorneys face to face? Just askin’

  211. Keithie baby appears to have awoken this morning to learn he’s been lied to about something and whatever that was pushed him to say buh bye, immediately.

    Thinking he’s reacting to some sort of betrayal and doesn’t take to kindly to it.

    just sayin.

  212. Here’s an excellent citizenship chart that should help explain to those less experienced in the dark arts of citizenship why certian people should be nixxed from office:

    It sums up the unions perfectly.

  213. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/our-privilege-our-right-our-duty.html

    We were blessed from our beginning as a Nation under God. Our Founding Fathers bestowed on We the People the most profound privileges in the history of mankind. In Our Declaration of Independence, Our Founding Fathers succinctly stated our basic rights: “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    As with all Privileges and Rights, Duty comes. In the 233 years of our existence as a Nation by the People, we have lost sight of our Duty. I am as guilty as anyone of wanting to have the privileges and rights without having to perform the duty, but all of that changed for all of us on January 20, 2009. On that infamous date, a puppet of the puppet masters, alien to Our Constitution, was inaugurated as the 44th “President” of the United States of America.

    The Socialists, Communists and others alien to Our Country and Our Cause say that this “change” to our Nation is forever, but is that so? I don’t think so.

  214. Free Speech | January 21, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

    When I first began writing about the “Natural Born Citizen” qualification for the Presidency, few lawyers had an understanding of what I meant. Fewer still, had read the basis for that Constitutional language derived by our Founding Fathers from Vattel’s Law of Nations. At the time of its publication, Vattel’s Law of Nations was used as a textbook in colleges in the United States and Europe. Furthermore, it was the principal legal treatise used by our Founding Fathers in writing our Constitution. To this day, the Law of Nations is still used as a reference text by such legal scholars as Justice Antonin Scalia.
    _________
    FS, Carlyle, jbjd, Sir William and others interested. Take a look at this chart over at Daily Pen – it speaks volumes and I have lots of charts by others saved but this one is interesting – check it out…it’s worth your time –

    http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/

  215. Who owns/runs Fact check.org? Soros?

  216. Ginger, the answer is YES however you have to work to trace Georgie’s dollars. It appears they are being laundered through either the Univ of Chicago OR the bogus Annenberg Foundation. Either way, Georgie is paying for the propaganda machine.

  217. Helen

    Thanks ….A person on John Boenhers web site is sending people to fackcheck.org to get the facts on the health care bill! haha I just want to get my two cents in!

  218. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm |

    Thanks Helen.

  219. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm |

    Thanks Helen. BO fails in all NBC requirements.

  220. I’m going to play 1 and 21 in the lottery the next time I feel like donating a buck to the state. Something tells me this is a magical day that none of us will fully realize until we get some distance from it all.

    That said, I am just thrilled all of us “birthers” “constitutionalists” and “truthers” have this new best friend. I can’t begin to express to anyone reading this post how elated I feel at this moment, 10:13 pm EST.

    I’m elated b/c I feel as though this miserable three year slog is over. It’s done. Our new best friend made sure it was, unwittingly I’m sure. I love this leftie…and I love the fact that he was there w/GrandPa Dunham welcoming Sr to Hawaii and all is now coming full circle b/c of Gov A.

    He was there at the beginning and he’s now here at the end. Wow! Talk about book ends. My head is freeing itself and needs to dump all of this useless info…

    Karma baby, Karma!

  221. Kenya: Special Report: Sleepy Little Village Where Obama Traces His Own Roots

    http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html

    Citizenwells and SueK,
    Can you please read this article and see if you have seen this before it from 2004.

  222. APNewsBreak: Hawaii won’t release Obama birth info
    (AP) – 19 minutes ago

    HONOLULU (AP) — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it’s against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.

    State Attorney General David Louie told the governor he can’t disclose an individual’s birth documentation without a person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said.

    “There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. “Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.”

    Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama’s parents and knew him as a child, launched an effort last month to find a way to dispel conspiracy theories that the president was born elsewhere. The governor said at the time he was bothered by people who questioned Obama’s birthplace for political reasons.

    But Abercrombie’s investigation reached a dead end when Louie told him the law restricted his options.

    Hawaii’s privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn’t have a tangible interest.

    So-called “birthers” claim Obama is ineligible to be president because they say there’s no proof he was born in the United States, with many of the skeptics questioning whether he was actually born in Kenya, his father’s home country.

    Hawaii’s health director said in 2008 and 2009 that she had seen and verified Obama’s original vital records, and birth notices in two Honolulu newspapers were published within days of Obama’s birth at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu.

    Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo again confirmed Friday that Obama’s name is found in its alphabetical list of names of people born in Hawaii, maintained in bound copies available for public view.

    That information, called index data, shows a listing for “Obama II, Barack Hussein, Male,” according to the department’s website. The president was born Aug. 4, 1961.

    “The index is just to say who has their records within the department. That’s an indication,” Okubo said. “I can’t talk about anyone’s records.”

    The Obama campaign issued a certificate of live birth in 2008, an official document from the state showing the president’s birth date, city and name, along with his parents’ names and races.

    On the Net:
    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

  223. Ginger, what’s boehner’s site address. I’m in the mood to play and be poignant all at the same time. Do share.

  224. A Sad State of Sovereignty
    Supporting and upholding the Constitution is really more important than just safeguarding a piece of paper. This week, various sources have been going back and forth with regards to what’s going on in Hawaii. But that’s just one small piece of the problem.

    Naturally, most people born in Hawaii right now should be scared stiff their data is unsafe. If they can’t figure out where a simple file is… getting a passport, employment, and verification of citizenship… sovereignty will become next to impossible for some. “If you can’t find a critical document for the ‘President’, what’s going to happen to documents from little people like me???

    The deeper issue though is foreign influence and lack of freedom because of it. What we’ve witnessed in the past 3 years is a complete abandonment of sovereignty. Dr. Alan Keyes said it right during the 2008 campaign that America had lost it borders, its identity, its persona.

    I honestly thought America was a little smarter than this. I believed people would be rioting in the streets by now because their homes, their money, their sovereignty was at risk 100 percent. I was wrong. Americans, in general, no longer have an identity. They no longer have a unique place in the world. It’s all a washboard of illegal trash being carried in from foreign countries. Back in the 1800’s, even the trash became citizens, and they were damned proud of it. They were begging to be free.

    So, why are foreigners no longer yearning to be free??? The answer is clear for those who look. We are no longer free, so we are only desired for our worldly possessions.

    This new generation of citizens in this country has no pride. We see it every day. They have plenty of options to buy products branded and built in the USA that are equivalent or better than foreign products. What do they do? Buy foreign. They vote for foreigners. They want to be foreigners. They are foreigners. It’s not where you are born. It’s where your allegiance lies.

    2012 will be a defining election, not because of who’s running, but what signal we are sending. If we continue to ignore our sovereignty, such as we have with a dual citizen usurper, we are sending a signal to foreign countries that we are no longer the United States, but rather a rag-tag cornacopia of lost identities.

  225. The index is just to say who has their records within the department. That’s an indication,” Okubo said. “I can’t talk about anyone’s records.”

    You can’t talk about what you don’t have……..
    FAIL

  226. TO: GBAmerica re the vidoe posted above.
    I think if you listen closely, you hear them saying that Tupac talked about the “illumini”..but when mentioning Obama…I think they were talking about JayZ, saying something like it doesn’t do JayZ any good to suck up to Obama.
    That is what I think I heard. LOL hard to tell for SURE.

  227. Helen

    http://speaker.gov/Blog/

    I hope I linked right!

    Look for the one that says

    It’s a Majority: 26 states Challenging Obama Care Law in Court

    Last post/ Barbara Wiese

    Helen It is one of those post were you have to give your name and copy what is in a box. Mine did now show up! I guess that they have to ok it first!

  228. “But Abercrombie’s investigation reached a dead end when Louie told him the law restricted his options.” key sentence in the Gov’s press statement posted by Bill Cutting | January 21, 2011 at 10:22 pm |

    No. The law didn’t RESTRICT his options, the archival info where a single line with birth info = NOT BORN IN THE USA!

    But rather BORN OUT OF THE COUNTRY! What a complete load of malarkey! This Gov had the Usurper’s staff write a presser hoping to stop the avalanche of TRUTH! I’ll be daggoned if he’s going to win this time. Ain’t going to happen unless we the people allow it too.

    Therefore folks, we need to use Gov A’s statement today as OUR NEW POSTER CHILD. We know know know know know they ary lying to us. Enough is enough. Let’s roll and take our strength and pummel them once and for all!

  229. “Governor of Hawaii Can’t Find Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate?”

    “RUSH: I’ve been sitting on this story all week, purposely, just to see where it would go. And it has grown. This governor out in Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, a well-known socialist, by the way, longtime member of Congress, now the governor of Hawaii, really stepped in it earlier, well, I think it was not even this week, it was last week. The governor, Neil Abercrombie, some time ago said, (paraphrasing) “Look, I was there when Obama was born in Hawaii. That birth certificate, it exists. Everybody knows it. I was there when that kid was born.” Turns out he wasn’t there, and he admitted he wasn’t there. He was there in spirit. …”

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012111/content/01125106.guest.html

  230. Ginger – my comment is in moderation, but here it is –

    Barbara Wiese – you are kidding, right, when you suggest one should rely on the Chicago Annenberg Factcheck site, right?

    I realize the Speaker and his whip do, but that’s their bad, but you or anyone else who espouses this site is legitimate in anyway only demonstrates your lack of knowledge as to who funds it, and what that individuals warped sense of reality truly is.

    It’s bad enough Speaker Boehner props this yahoo up as a legitimate soul, but that doesn’t parlay into what we the people know about this shyster.

    Speaking of shyster’s, too bad the FBI only focused on the Catholic Mafioso in their round up this week. Guess the other “real” maffia felt threatened or greedy.
    __________
    we’ll see if he let’s my comment out of the dark.
    ___________
    ps – my maffia comment above relates to the Wall Street Gang and they are a Gang.

  231. Hawaii Becomes First State to Banish Daily Prayer In Senate
    http://tinyurl.com/4tjrd5f

  232. “O” pologist Keith The Commie Olbermann Gone from MSNBC !!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110122/ap_on_en_tv/us_tv_olbermann

  233. btw, Ginger, chose not to go w/Gov A yet…need to get a post posted first. Once that’s done then I’ll post Gov A’s slip and the sheer folly of it all.

    I’m telling y’all we can have a ton of fun with this “slip” by using our smarts and our collective muscle. When I managed political campaigns, long ago, it is this kind of slip that as a manager I’d pounce on.

    I’d take FS’s tact of repetitive messaging and repeat over, and over and over and over again ad nauseum. And for days and or weeks at a time. This is how you move your target. Although a pain it works. You don’t have to like it…that’s not what we are or should be about…it’s about ending this dismal experience so our country can heal, remove these enablers from both sides of the aisle and fortify and grow as a nation.

  234. SueK,
    LOL!!!
    Who in the world is Anna Toot??Look at the 2004 article,Didn’t Barack call his grandma”Toot”?????

    Sharon in VA,
    Yes in that video it is hard to tell.

  235. Helen,
    ======================================
    Sam Sewell | January 21, 2011 at 12:57 pm |

    FS – Excellent!
    Thanks FS but wait till you see the next two installments!

    ***************************
    As to the claim that nobody reads your repetitive posts, you should know that the posts with links to my blog are numerous… the lurkers must still be hungry for your ideas because my statcounter still keeps spinning with hits from CW.

  236. Helen

    Thank You …Thank You… Thank You
    That was great! I just started going to his site to try and get educated. Troll are every where!

    Go to Gate Way Pundit.
    Rep. Broun Warns GOP: Mixed Seating at SOTU is “A Trap” to “Silence Republicans”

  237. I think I’ll join you in monitoring Boehner’s site. I’d very much like to see what folks are saying to the Speaker.

    I’ll checkout Gateway tomorrow. Need to call it a night.

    FS – I know why you do it and I know who you are targeting said messages too and it ain’t a long time poster like me. Therefore, I skip over and ignore. I’ve grown used to your messaging work and see it for what it is. No judgements or criticisms on my end.

  238. They’ve opened up a big enough can of worms by saying that the birth certificate doesn’t exist to surely make even the most skeptical congressperson raise an eyebrow, one would think…. This needs to go to the top of Issa’s list before he subpoenas or holds hearings on anything else.

  239. So now Free Speech has Jedi Pauly doing his dirty work. This is what Free Speech posted here which is Jedi’s latest attack. Of course, Free Speech promotes this stuff and even provides its link:

    “As you can see, these attorneys cannot even get one of the five jurisdictional hurdles of standing figured out, let alone all five of them, and thus craft a petition that passes entry level. Isn’t this rather pathetic? So, the next time you want to direct any vitriol towards the government, the courts, the legal system, or the judges over the handling of Obama cases, perhaps you will direct your emotions towards those that are most deserving of rebuke which is those attorneys who have proven their worthlessness regarding their capability of crafting a proper case.”

    For those who are interested in my response to Jedi Pauly and Free Speech, who are a tag team, here it is:

    To Mr. “Jedi Pauli,”

    I will address your points briefly. I will not go into all the legal details of the Kerchner case because I do not think it is necessary to show that you are wrong in what you write. You continue to attack me, my work, and the Kerchner case for some unknown reason. The last time you attacked me, you said you thought I was Dr. Conspiracy. But now you are back at it in your grand pseudo scientific style.

    You state:

    “You MUST have all FIVE of these:
    The Court must have TERRITORIAL jurisdiction over all of the parties listed in a suit.
    The Court must have PERSONAL jurisdiction over all of the parties listed in a suit.
    The court must have SUBJECT MATTER jurisdiction over the issues being adjudicated. And such matters must be raised by the plaintiffs in their petition.
    There must be stated a specific non-general INJURY and an injuring party.
    The court must be able to provide a REMEDY that is within their powers to provide.
    That is it. There are no other jurisdictional issues or areas. This is the sum total of all world-wide legal systems as concerns “standing.” They are all the same.”

    I will now address you points:

    Territorial jurisdiction: This was not an issue in the Kerchner case. The defendants did not raise it as a defense and correctly so. The court also found no problem here. Obama, Congress, Cheney, and Pelosi can all be sued in the Third Circuit where all the Kerchner plaintiffs live. The Rules of Civil Procedure designate where one can sue the government and its agents and I followed those rules.

    Personal jurisdiction: This was not an issue in the Kerchner case. The court acquires personal jurisdiction over the defendants when they are properly served in accordance with due process. I properly served all the defendants pursuant to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The defendants did not raise it as a defense and correctly so. The court also found no problem here.

    Subject Matter jurisdiction: This is where standing came in. The Third Circuit Court of Appeals found no Article III standing. The court said that the Kerchner plaintiffs did not suffer an injury in fact. I will discuss this point in the next heading.

    Non-general Injury and an injuring party: As I have stated above, this is part of standing and so under your scheme belongs as a part of subject matter jurisdiction and not as a separate category. As we all know, the courts found that plaintiffs did not suffer an injury in fact. Hence, it found no standing. I argued that the plaintiffs did suffer an injury in fact. The court did not agree with us. The court said that the Kerchner plaintiffs did not suffer an injury in fact because they like all other Americans would be injured if Obama is not eligible to be President. It said that if all Americans are injured, then the court has no jurisdiction and the case belongs with Congress and the voting booth. Of course we know that Congress said that only the courts could resolve the eligibility issue. I argued that if my clients were injured, it did not matter how many other people were also injured. I also argued that in a Constitutional Republic we cannot resolve questions of constitutional interpretation and meaning in the voting booth. If the court found that the plaintiffs did not suffer an injury in fact, of course it will also find that there was no “injuring party.” Hence, it is superfluous to argue about an “injuring party” when injury in fact is already a requirement.

    Remedy: This is also part of standing and so also belongs as a part of subject matter jurisdiction and not as a separate category. The Kerchner court never reached the issue of remedy, for it found no injury in fact. Finding no injury in fact, it is not necessary for the court to analyze remedy. In any event, I adequately presented the requested remedy which was injunction, declaratory relief, mandamus relief, and quo warranto relief, all proper remedies in such a case. I showed how Obama was not adequately vetted by anyone during the election process, including the media, the political institutions, the Electoral College, and Congress. I argued that Congress violated the Twentieth Amendment by failing to assure my clients through adequate investigation and hearings that Obama was eligible for the offices of President and Commander in Chief. I argued that Obama and Congress violated my clients’ unalienable Fifth Amendment rights to life, liberty, safety, security, tranquility, and property and their First and Ninth Amendment rights for allowing a person to occupy the Office of President and Commander in Chief who never proved he was eligible for those offices, never conclusively proved he was born in the United States, and that in any event, cannot be eligible because he is not an Article II “natural born Citizen” because his father was not a U.S. citizen when Obama was born. I argued that Congress violated my clients’ equal protection rights under the Fifth Amendment for investigating the “natural born Citizen” status of John McCain but not that of Barack Obama. As part of the declaratory action, I asked that the court declare what an Article II “natural born Citizen” is, declare that Obama does not meet that definition, and provide the definition and its findings to Congress so Congress could take appropriate action against Obama. As part of the mandamus relief, I asked that the court order Obama to produce his contemporaneous 1961 long-form birth certificate and that Congress take appropriate action against Obama based on the court’s findings of fact and conclusions of law. The defendants never argued that the courts could not provide the remedy that the Kerchner plaintiffs requested and the courts never made any such finding. The District Court dismissed the Kerchner case on political question and standing grounds (both Article III and prudential standing). The Third Circuit dismissed it on Article III standing grounds. No court ever reached the underlying merits of the Kerchner case. No court ever even discussed plaintiffs’ argument regarding violation of their unalienable Fifth Amendment rights to life, liberty, safety, security, tranquility, and property when it analyzed whether plaintiffs had standing.

    In short, you really have it all wrong. You attempt to have your general unfounded comments cover all the eligibility attorneys and all their cases. Your argument has no basis in law or fact. You fail to address the particulars of any one case and especially the Kerchner case. You really should reconsider coming out with such articles which really put into question the credibility of the eligibility issue, the writers of such articles, and that of those who publish such articles. I hope that you will refrain from such writings in the future.

    Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
    January 21, 2011

  240. GBAmerica | January 21, 2011 at 10:21 pm |

    Yes, GB, I’ve seen it; I particularly remember the part about him going back to build his house, as is the tradition.

    That article is full of interesting tidbits, isn’t it? I’m surprised it hasn’t been scrubbed…

  241. Nothing like loyal Americans who would sell their souls to the devil via quid pro quo.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/21/comcast-fired-keith-olbermann/
    This was 100% expected news…and it means much more than just getting rid of Keith Olbermann, one of the most vile pigs in the “news” business (the other being Chris Matthews).
    Comcast bought the networks of NBC, including MSNBC, from General Electric.
    In 2008, the Obama campaign went to GE with a quid pro quo arrangement: if GE directed its TV networks to give Obama 100% positive coverage, attack Hillary Clinton relentlessly, and cover up everything bad Obama didn’t want revealed about himself…as president Obama would give GE everything it wanted from a business standpoint, including massive funding towards GE’s bogus “green technology”. This should all be very illegal, but I won’t hold my breath waiting for the Cocktail Party GOP to investigate any of this (because they seem terrified of challenging the media on anything, lest they receive negative coverage from them as a result….the wimps).
    GE kept its end of the deal, and the Obama administration has rewarded GE accordingly.
    Meanwhile, the networks of NBC plummeted in ratings because the public saw through it all, and tired of watching the Obama propaganda channels.

  242. Lovely-on some level, I just don’t know where.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/21/miss-thang-caught-dying-hair-in-the-middle-of-the-day-isnt-there-something-better-obama-could-be-doing-in-the-white-house/
    In June of 2008, Barack Obama refused to march in Chicago’s Gay Pride Parade…continuing his longstanding refusal to ever march in a Pride Parade. Every other major political figure in Illinois marches in Pride Parades. Senator Roland Burris marched in the 2009 Chicago Gay Pride Parade as Obama’s replacement in the Senate.
    Instead of marching in the Pride Parade, Obama got his hair cut on the Southside and then played basketball for a while at the East Bank Club downtown, before spending several hours in the steam room/sauna, doing who knows what (having his own parade, if you want to imagine it).
    We have never had a president so vain and self-centered.

    Looks like Miss Thang wanted some beauty time in the middle of the afternoon instead of doing any of the work his current position requires…you know, the stuff he puts off and evades while enjoying all the material, indulgent perks of living in the White House (aka, the reason he wanted to be president in the first place).

  243. Oldsalt,

    I, too, wondered about SCOTUS’ authority to make such a ruling. Where in our constitution does it say the SCOTUS has the right to VOID THE CONSTITUTION?

    What this means iS if the government can make up rules and laws as is convenient for it against the people, THEN SO SHOULD WE THE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH LAWS WE WILL FOLLOW AND WHICH ONES WE WILL IGNORE. WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD START BY DECLARING THIS GOVERNMENT ILLEGAL, UNLAWFUL, DYSFUNCTIONAL AND START ANOTHER GOVERNMENT RIGHT UNDER ITS ITS NOSE.

  244. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. | January 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm |

    You’re being ridiculous, Apuzzo.

    I don’t even know Mr. Pauly. Have never communicated with him. Had nothing to do with his critique of your dismissed case.

    Don’t you have anything better to do than make false accusations against me for something someone I don’t even know wrote about your case that has already been dismissed?

    Why don’t you spend your time assisting the Attorneys who still have viable cases pending against BO?

  245. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 11:36 pm |

    FS – I know why you do it and I know who you are targeting said messages too and it ain’t a long time poster like me… I’ve grown used to your messaging work and see it for what it is. No judgements or criticisms on my end.

    ——————————————————————-
    Thanks Helen.

  246. Paxson | January 21, 2011 at 11:38 pm |
    They’ve opened up a big enough can of worms by saying that the birth certificate doesn’t exist to surely make even the most skeptical congressperson raise an eyebrow, one would think…. This needs to go to the top of Issa’s list before he subpoenas or holds hearings on anything else.

    ————————————————————–
    Well, Congress certainly claim that there is not a controversy now that Power Players like Rush are commenting about BO not having a BC.

  247. Michelle | January 21, 2011 at 11:51 pm | Lovely-on some level, I just don’t know where.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/21/miss-thang-caught-dying-hair-in-the-middle-of-the-day-isnt-there-something-better-obama-could-be-doing-in-the-white-house/
    ———–
    It is hilarious to watch the Hillbuzz guys rip BO a new one.

  248. Yes, GB, there seems to be a lot of ‘Toots’ around. I’m confused, too, because I haven’t followed that aspect of this whole mess.

    I recall that he did call Grandma “Toots.’ Is Grandma really Mommy, as has been theorized in the past? The article did state ‘Anna Toot,’ however.

    Maybe someone here at CW can explain the Toots?

  249. This should help guys like Donald Trump-Vegas set.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/20/remember-the-dubai-world-islands-project-its-gone-belly-up-and-is-actually-sinking-back-into-the-sea-if-you-didnt-see-this-coming-you-have-never-studied-much-in-islam/
    My friend Robby’s sister, Ann-Louise, used to go on and on about Dubai, and how much she wanted to live there, calling it “the future” and marveling at all the things being built there…with slave labor.
    THAT part Ann-Louise demurred never to talk about, denying Muslims still hold and abuse slaves, but it’s true. Everything that’s been built in Dubai in its massive construction boom was created on the backs of slaves…men mostly, but including female sex workers as well, who were duped into coming to Dubai from India, Indonesia, Pakistan, and Asian countries with promises of jobs and large financial incentives to leave their homes and lives behind and work in the Dubai construction industry. When these people arrived in Dubai, their passports were taken from them, they were stuffed into metal cargo crates that sleep 20 men to a container, rationed just enough food and water to keep them alive, and then enslaved as the brute muscle behind the fanciful Muslim building projects that so fascinated Ann-Louise.
    Everything in Dubai was built with slaves, and everything in Dubai is now falling apart because more likely than not the slaves sabotaged these building projects as they were going up.
    Wouldn’t you have done that?
    Just think about it.
    You are forced to sleep in metal shipping crates with dozens of fellow slaves, exposed to the burning heat of day and the freezing cold of night, never paid any wages for your work, while your Muslim masters hang onto your passport and stand guard outside the barbed wire perimeter keeping you enslaved against your will. Wouldn’t you dream of loosening bolts, mixing bad cement, and doing whatever you could every day, in small ways, to ensure the Muslim building projects collapsed under the weight of Islam’s own hubris?
    Islam is not an inventor or perfecter of anything. It is a corruptor, and a user. Islam was designed to be a conquest engine that militaristically and savagely sweeps into a territory, exploits its people and resources, and maintains control through the rote memorization and implementation of the Koran…itself a sadistic playbook for the conquest and subjugation of others.
    Muslims do not create beautiful, fanciful projects out of thin air that rise high into the sky with longterm stability…instead, they just buy architectural plans for massive, dreamlike fancies and then follow the Koran’s lead in creating the nightmarish working conditions that enslave others to build these Muslim whims.
    All of this evil is catching up with Dubai…which is literally falling apart at the seams.
    The “Dubai World” islands are sinking.
    It would not surprise me in the least if one day soon the current tallest building in the world, the Burj Kalifel, also built with slave labor, collapses upon itself, like the Tower of Babel.
    There’s a reason Muslim countries are so backwards, corrupt, and incompetent in almost everything they do…and it’s the Koran and the toxic influence it has wherever it’s spread

  250. Michelle | January 22, 2011 at 12:14 am |

    Savage discussed that the dubai man-made islands are sinking on his show tonight.

  251. Free Speech @ 12:08 am |
    I was a tom-boy and so are all of my sisters and we had to keep up with the boys, besides lots more fun, my sister can do what Sarah does but I can’t-maybe the trekking but not the fishing or hunting. I realized with that picture why they freak out about Sarah-she’s more of a guy than sleeping beauty and that is a huge compliment. The guys in Chicago LOVED Goldie Meir-because of her true heart and her grit and determination plus she was a Founding Mother of the Modern State of Israel and helped build it.
    Golda Meir Biography – life, family, childhood, children, parents …Mar 16, 2009 … In 1956, Israeli prime minister David Ben-Gurion (1886–1976) called Meir “the best man” in his cabinet and named her … It was now, as a result of Ben- Gurion’s desire to have all … Her autobiography, My Life, helped assure her place in the … Adler, David A. Our Golda, the Story of Golda Meir. …
    http://www.notablebiographies.com

  252. Helen | January 21, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
    Paxson – thanks for the link to Lame Cherry. This is the part that is most telling –

    “This is deliberate by Limbaugh and as I have stated, if the reality of Limbaugh in how he backs Obama over McCain, how Limbaugh installed this Gridlock as that is what he wanted and not majorities to overturn Obama, get into the heads of people on the right, they are going to figure out thee mass betrayal of America of Limbaugh and once that 10 percent starts chattering, then Limbaugh looses 75% of market share and he is finished.

    Benedict Arnold Limbaugh is the problem as he always has been in those who coated themselves in Reagan’s cape while being stage acts for the patricians.
    ********
    BULL^&%# & Lame Cherry doesn’t represent 22 million listeners/readers, and most likely never will. Guess that’s their problem. Sounds like a jealousy issue to me. I’ve listened to Rush daily and subscribe to 24/7. These comments regarding Rush are baseless drivel from an unimportant and uninformed source who obviously DOES NOT know Limbaugh well OR they just get their jollies in throwing out disinfo. to try to make themselves sound informed and important. I’ve read some of the articles in Lame Cherry and found several crude and disgusting. They are the Last place I would go to for a news source. JMHO

  253. New word:

    Ignoranus : A person who’s both stupid and an as*hole.

    I’ll leave it to y’all to use that word to describe the person of your choice…

  254. Sue K?

  255. thistle | January 22, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    About Lame Cherry – I agree with you, Thistle. For one thing Lame Cherry should take some lessons on written communication. He/she knows very little about sentence structure, punctuation, grammar, etc. That is a basic observation. Considerable honing up on such skills would be of benefit. The writing is atrocious, because of lack of clarity.

    Furthermore, for me personally, LC does little to enlighten, and I don’t see the crude talk as adding anything worthwhile. People that have to resort to that manner of communication have a very limited vocabulary.

  256. Checking in for a moment.

    My money is on Mario. It is very interesting that Mario is taking the time to post here, pointedly and judiciously.

  257. Mario Apuzzo says (11:39 PM):
    So now Free Speech has Jedi Pauly doing his dirty work. This is what Free Speech posted here which is Jedi’s latest attack. Of course, Free Speech promotes this stuff and even provides its link.
    *********************************
    As always, Attorney Apuzzo is a masterful communicator and extremely articulate in presenting his case. I admire him so much.

    I would like to ask Free Speech why he posts something by Jedi Pauly without having any idea as to what Pauly really believes. FS should check out this article by Pauly, who indicates he is quite hung up on the sovereignty doctrine. Is that what FS believes?

    http://jedipauly.blogspot.com/

    (scroll down to get to the interesting part)

  258. Carlyle | January 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    Ah-mayonnaise-jar? I had not heard that one before. I have been using Ahmanutjob for the same person.

  259. “Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie throws in the towel: Hawaii won’t release any Obama birth info; will continue the cover-up and law-breaking”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/hawaii-governor-neil-abercrombie-throws.html
    ===============
    “Too Late, Abercrombie”

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/too-late-abercrombie/

  260. “AP Report Confirms that there is Something on the Birth Certificate which Obama Doesn’t Want Disclosed”

    “Barack Obama, in my opinion, has spent millions of dollars defending lawsuits by “birthers” in order to conceal his Indonesian identity/dual citizenship.”

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/ap-report-confirms-that-there-is-something-on-the-birth-certificate-which-obama-doesnt-want-disclosed/

  261. Carlyle | January 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm |

    Do not forget that there was fraud in relationship to donations. There is the matter of the foreign donations that came from the Middle East, and specifically from Hamas supporters that were bundled by his supporters so that the names of the real donors were hidden.

  262. thistle | January 22, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    I agree with Thistle. I have listened to RL on and off via the Internet – usually Youtube clips.
    The biggest lie from LC is the one about Rush kissing Ø’s butt and working against McCain. That did not happen at all. In fact Rush was doing the opposite and it was Rush who introduce a whole slew of people to Hillbuzz because of their support of Hillary Clinton, and then of McCain and Palin – Hillbuzz are more supporters of Palin than they are of McCain.

    Likewise I have read bits and pieces from Lamecherry but that blog is not on my must read list. There are too many times when LC will claim to be the one to break a story which has been highlighted first on Hillbuzz and in other sources, and there have been other inconsistencies.

    LC is simply not a good source for material.

  263. Aussie | January 22, 2011 at 3:10 am |
    thistle | January 22, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    I agree with Thistle. I have listened to RL on and off via the Internet – usually Youtube clips.
    The biggest lie from LC is the one about Rush kissing Ø’s butt and working against McCain. That did not happen at all. In fact Rush was doing the opposite and it was Rush who introduce a whole slew of people to Hillbuzz because of their support of Hillary Clinton, and then of McCain and Palin – Hillbuzz are more supporters of Palin than they are of McCain.

    Likewise I have read bits and pieces from Lamecherry but that blog is not on my must read list. There are too many times when LC will claim to be the one to break a story which has been highlighted first on Hillbuzz and in other sources, and there have been other inconsistencies.

    —————————————————
    I agree. It has been frustrating that Rush has remained mostly silently on BO’s missing BC, but he probably wanted assurances that BO was about to be legally removed before he spoke out.

    BTAIMB, LC picked an odd time to attack Rush, on the day that he lambasts BO for 10 minutes on the BC issue??? That doesn’t pass the SMELL test.

  264. Paxson | January 21, 2011 at 7:12 pm |

    Maybe Lamecherry is screwing with Linbaugh’s brain for not coming all the way out and just dancing around the edges.
    ___________________________________________________

    To know that a crime is being committed and DO NOTHING about it, IS A CRIME.

  265. thistle.
    I don’t always agree with Limbaugh although I probably agree
    90 – 95 % of the time.
    He presents documented facts and rational thought processes.

  266. Thanks everyone. Glad to know I’m in good company. Have lurked in here for a couple of years and only posted a few times. I love this site.

    CW…exactly. Rush quotes his sources and if he gets something wrong, makes a point of correcting it. It’s refreshing since many of us are sick and tired of listening to lies by the media, by the administration, especially when we Know we are being lied to. Anyway, I don’t agree w/Rush 100% either, but listen to him daily. I love Michael Savage too, who takes free speech to the limits (& then some) and doesn’t care if his language is PC or not. I just love that, though I don’t always agree with him 100% of the time either.

    To those who don’t like Rush, I have no problem with that. Just please don’t spread things that aren’t true about him. We get enough of that from other sources. Thanks to all who post here. Love reading your comments and I do learn a lot from you.

  267. Aussie | January 22, 2011 at 2:06 am |

    Carlyle | January 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    Ah-mayonnaise-jar? I had not heard that one before.

    =======================================

    I just make stuff up as I go along. I figure if other people posting here can make up stuff, so can I. Fair?

  268. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. | January 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm |

    ==============================

    Oh so fine – a MUCH NEEDED dose of SANITY

    In the meantime we all need to understand that the USSC has HUGE latitude on what it chooses to hear and what it chooses to ignore or deny. Attorneys want to dot all the I’s and cross all the T’s primarily so they can WIN and also so they increase their probability of not being refused.

    Even though they don’t need excuses (they can just refuse with no explanation or justification), at a minimum you don’t want to give them any extra reasons.

    But the key fact remains that the USSC has been given plenty of at least adequate material to work with. Their refusal to take one of the balls and run with it is a sure sign of mendacity and corruption at the highest levels.

    The USSC is flat on their face ON THIS ISSUE. If they were ever going to do anything, they would have done it already.

  269. BTW – there is an very important outstanding question from the other day that has not been answered. I will rephrase:

    FS/LPH – in a disagreement between you and MA, please tell us one or more credible reasons why we should believe you over MA. As it stands right now, I’m inclined to go with Mario.

  270. Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along. I figure if other people posting here can make up stuff, so can I. Fair?”
    **********************************
    I have NO need to fabricate what I have told you here. Choose not to believe as suits your purpose and level of understanding about what and whom the citizens are confronting in merely asking questions about Hambama. Unlike you, I have actually stepped out from the protection of the crowd and alerted authorities. That they chose to do nothing is their business. Whether you are old enough to remember J. Edgar Hoover or not, J. Edgar knew a Commie when he saw one. Whatever his personal demons and predelictions, he was not asleep at the helm of the FBI.

  271. CW, if you would delete my comment @ 3:19 with the typo, I would be most appreciative.

  272. Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”
    **********************************

    I have NO need to fabricate what I have told you here. Choose not to believe as suits your purpose and level of understanding about what and whom the citizens are confronting in merely asking questions about Hambama. Unlike you, I have actually stepped out from the protection of the crowd and alerted authorities.
    ***********************************************************

    Well Said, Lillibet!

    And thank you for exposing the FACT that carlyle, by his own admission, is fabricating what he posts on CW, i.e., Carlyle @ 10:31 PM said: “I just make stuff up as I go along… ”

  273. Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    ===============================

    Who are you? I have never had any discussion or interchange with you. What is your purpose for jumping in here? Furthermore, if you never make stuff up, I obviously was not refering to you.

    Thank you.

  274. Carlyle | January 22, 2011 at 10:31 am |

    I have to say that I thought it was very original :). Most of us use a variation of Ahmanutjob. I have heard him called Ahamadinnerjacket as well.

    It is ok to make up a name for that particular jerk. 🙂

  275. Lillibet | January 22, 2011 at 3:21 pm |

    Instead of making a fool of yourself with an intemperate response, you should have read my comment to Carlyle, which had nothing remotely to do with you.

    The reference was to the President of Iran. I stated that I had not heard him being called the name that was used by Carlyle, and I thought the name was funny. It was quite original.

    My own comment said I called the same man Ahmanutjob.

    So please stay out of the conversations of others if you are simply going to use invective.

  276. Free Speech | January 22, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    Excuse me, but you are twisting the comment to mean something that was not meant.

    The comment was a response to my query regarding a new nickname for Ahmanutjob the fraudulent President of Iran.

    You have no right to take the response given to me and to twist it like that. This is reprehensible.

  277. Aussie | January 22, 2011 at 6:40 pm |

    ==============================

    I cannot figure out for the life of me why CW puts up with this. Maybe he doesn’t want to be a “parent” but when “children” poison his blog, he has to doesn’t he? I mean, how many judges would let lawyers just freewheel over the proceedings? I’m sure a judge doesn’t want to act like a parent either, but it comes with the job.

    I say, throw a penalty flag, “contempt of court” – YOU’RE OUTTA HERE!

    Sometimes you just gotta do that. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expressing opinions. In this case it has to do with LIES, MISQUOTES, and DEFAMATION.

  278. Carlyle @ 418 PM: Did you or did you not make previous comments on this board urging CW to block certain posters abridging their free speech? Have you not commented that some on this board are too ignorant to grasp the civil unrest impeachment would cause, and are driving this cause to assuage injury to their egos? When we have no standing in our courts, when the law, due process, promised transparency posted online in advance of pending legislation is flauted, when Congress turns a tone deaf ear on the concerns of the citizens, when a sitting president cannot release any and all requested documentation, when the press fawns and salivates like lap dogs at the Court of the Sun King, then the sum of the injuries to liberty exceed the cost to anyone’s individual ego.
    However, it was my mistake if your comment about ad libbing was not meant to impugn the comments of others, including me. Who I am is less important that what I know. What I know is already known to those who watch this board. What I know is known by others, and they have the authority to choose to deal with this matter as they see fit. I am merely a conduit of this information. If you have had no interest in my previous comments, then I have no wish to intrude upon your time.
    Aussie @6:38 PM, the definition of invective would seem not to include what I have stated above, however, you are entitled to your opinion and seem to feel that I have been harsh with your friend. Your swift defense of your friend demonstrates that you consider his speech above criticism, sancrosanct as it were, his sacred right.
    Many on this board, however, seem not to want to admit that in silencing those whom they disagree, they risk imposing an arbitrary and diminishing threshold for censure which trigger the abridgement of their free speech. Must we agree on everything? Must we all be carbon copies of the same page of the same book to get along? Consider that Free Speech has as much right to his First Amendment rights as you and Carlyle. Carlyle’s rat terrier analogy begs the question of whether a dog which contracts rabies from an animal bite is guilty of distemper? Repetitive postings, vituperative postings get the scroll button, yes, but how does calling someone an ‘obot’ rise to the level of justifying taking away a man’s millstone? That seems punishment which exceeds the injury, especially as we are all anonymous here, or are we? How odd that anonymity might not exist anymore for the average citizen, but the leaders are all keeping secrets?

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