Strunk v Department of State update, September 9, 2010, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro passport records, Citizen Wells open thread

Strunk v Department of State update, September 9, 2010, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro passport records

From BirtherReport.com September 8, 2010.

“DUNHAM/OBAMA/SOETORO FOIA UPDATE: This is in regards to the recent partial-dump of Stanley Ann Dunham/Obama/Soetoro’s passport records under the FOIA. As previously reported here, all pre-1965 passport records for Stanley Ann Dunham(Obama’s Mama) were said to be destroyed even though they are required to maintain passport records for 100 years.

Christopher Strunk whom first obtained the Dunham records(after a court order) under the FOIA filed his ‘Second Supplement Declaration in Opposition to Defendant’s Motion for Summary Judgment to Dismiss’ on August 25, 2010. You can view the first ‘Declaration in Opposition to Defendant’s Motion for Summary Judgment to Dismiss’ that was filed on August 9, 2010, here. The complete second declaration is embedded below.”

Read more:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/09/strunk-v-department-of-state-update.html

177 responses to “Strunk v Department of State update, September 9, 2010, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro passport records, Citizen Wells open thread

  1. Good Morning!

    News article from Dakota Voice:
    http://www.dakotavoice.com/2010/09/obamas-past-still-under-wraps-lakin-defense-denied/

    “…The longer Obama and his handlers continue to firmly resist efforts to uncover his past, the more convinced millions of Americans become that he is likely hiding the fact that he is ineligible to be president. More people come to think this way every day. We’re not going to stop seeking justice for what we view as a usurped American presidency–the first in America’s history….”

  2. I like the above article because you can listen to the author read the article and continue surfing the internet.

    I wish more writers would do this.

  3. I have but one question. Will the XO regarding the personal records of the (alleged) POTUS, be overriden by FOIA. I have a gut feeling that the DOJ will point to the XO and try to make the world believe that the XO supercedes even the FOIA, and is even beyond any court orders. Soetoro’s family is a horse of a differrent “WHINNY.”and since some info has already been obtained it is likely that anything else that is being retained as potentially damaging could be released. The allegation that the records from the early 60s was destroyed sounds like a lie inasmuch that the US Government themselves tout that they keep and maintain all passport files from 1925 to the present. I believe that there is a Hawaii type snow job being perpetrated. I think that the SUPREMES need to weigh in on this one and advise the people in the pertinent departments that they will face some really HAIRY penalties if they continue to refuse to act to produce Dunham’s passport records through the early 60s. So lets see if the SUPREMES have the decency to uphold the existing laws. Who knows maybe they will have a change of HEART!

  4. I find it hard to believe that reasonable people think that this administration will give up anything that will be damaging to their king. This is the Democrat Party we are talking about. They Lie, Cheat, Steal and then try to make us believe how Honorable they are. If they had the Honor of a Samurai, they would have commited sepu-ku eons ago.

  5. ST. LOUIS TEA PARTY
    UNDER THE GATEWAY ARCH
    SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 12TH
    12 NOON – 4 PM

    In St. Louis, we will gather under the Gateway Arch—the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial. There will be more than a dozen entertainers and speakers, including BigGovernment.com Editor in Chief, Mike Flynn.

    Dana Loesch, Host: The Dana Show / Co-founder St. Louis Tea Party
    Bill Hennessy, Co-founder St. Louis Tea Party
    AlfonZo Rachel, PJTV AlfonZo Rachel’s ZoNation
    Mike Flynn, Editor-in-Chief BigGovernment
    Dick Morris, Conservative Columnist
    Sammy Kershaw Country Music Star, Protect Our Coastline
    Mike and Spike, The Mike and Spike Show
    Neil E. Boyd Winner of America’s Got Talent, from Sikeston, MO
    Kim Massie One of the most recognizable voices in St. Louis.
    Stephanie Rubach, move-on-up.org
    Jim Hoft, Gateway Pundit

  6. DOES SOETORO HAVE “STANDING” AGAINST FOIA? I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT HE IS ABOVE THE LAWS OF OUR LAND.

  7. Recently the obotshave been trying to DISTRACT & DISRUPT all efforts to bring bo to JUSTICE by harping about “PTBs”.

    obots claim that bo is merely a PUPPETof the “”PTBs””. That argument is nothing but disinformation to disrupt the prosecution of bo for his crimes. You don’t have to be a lawyer to know that when you are prosecuting a criminal conspiracy case, you go after all the parties, the puppets and the “PTBs.” Prosecutors go after the puppets for no other reason to get criminal information to prosecute the ”PTBs.”

    Dr. Sam Sewell: “I think CGJ is the quickest, most effective, and most practical way to clean up government corruption. I have yet to see a viable argument against that premise.”

    Justice Antonin Scalia: “…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people

    Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”

    Mark Levin: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    You see our Founding Fathers never intended for us to be lorded over by corrupt criminals in the White House and Congress. To the contrary, our Founding Fathers intended for We the People to have control over our Government and our politicians.

    That is one of the primary reasons that they bestowed upon us that extraordinary Bill of Rights which provided for the Grand Jury System controlled by the people not the politicians.

    In our Founding Fathers’ prescient wisdom, they designed a Grand Jury System in which no man, not even the President of the United States, is above the Law.

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO regime:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  8. Thursday, September 09, 2010
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 23% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-seven percent (47%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -24 (see trends
    Today’s Approval Index rating is the lowest yet recorded for this president.

  9. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 29, 2010 at 3:10 pm |

    ” The PTB’s will find SOME excuse and SOME “reason” to make Barry legal – just exactly so they don’t turn the entire military into war criminals and the entire congress into traitors and half the people into accomplices.”

  10. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 23% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-seven percent (47%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -24 (see trends).

  11. Overall, 41% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-eight percent (58%) disapprove.

    Today’s Approval Index rating is the lowest yet recorded for this president. Overall Job Approval matches the lowest recorded number, and the number who Strongly Disapprove matches the highest yet recorded.

  12. Project Gulf Impact Explains The Bloodtests, “People Have Been Poisoned”

    September 8, 2010 by Alex

    Yesterday, On the Project Impact Radio Show, Project Gulf Impact explained the recent blood tests that were released. This information is extremely important and everyone, especially the people in the gulf, should hear this show.

    After we released the results we were literally flooded with questions. We sent them off to PGI and they answered them on their radio show.

    You can listen to the archive of the show Here

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theintelhub/2010/09/08/project-impact–exposing-the-gulf-disaster

  13. Certificate of Nomination Summary
    September 9, 2010

    Why Pelosi and Germond Signed a Different Certificate of Nomination for Hawaii

    http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/certificate-of-nomination-summary/

  14. “WE’RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE”
    Many of you will scroll past this long post. For those of you who read it, thanks. It is worth the time to consider.

    The Wizard of Oz = the Crown Temple This is not a mere child’s story written by L. Frank Baum. What symbol does “Oz” stand for? Ounces. What is measured in ounces? Gold. What is the yellow brick road? Bricks or ingot bars of gold. The character known as the Straw Man represents that fictitious ALL CAPS legal fiction – a PERSON – the Federal U.S. Government created with the same spelling as your Christian birth name.

    Remember what the Straw Man wanted from the Wizard of Oz? A brain! No legal fiction has a brain because they have no breath of life! What did he get in place of a brain? A Certificate. A Birth Certificate for a new legal creation. He was proud of his new legal status, plus all the other legalisms he was granted. Now he becomes the true epitome of the brainless sack of straw who was given a Certificate in place of a brainof common sense.

    What about the Tin Man? Does Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) mean anything to you? The poor TIN Man just stood there mindlessly doing his work until his body literally froze up and stopped functioning. He worked himself to death because he had no heart nor soul. He’s the heartless and emotionless creature robotically carrying out his daily task as if he was already dead. He’s the ox pulling the plow and the mule toiling under the yoke. These days, his task masters just oil him nightly with beer and place him in front of a hypnotic television until his very existence no longer has any meaning or value. His masters keep him cold on the outside and heartless on the inside in order to control any emotions or heart he may get a hold of.

    The pitiful Cowardly Lion was always too frightened to stand up for himself. Of course, he was a bully and a big mouth when it came to picking on those smaller than he was. Did you ever notice how bullies are really the biggest cowards? They act as if they have great courage, but they really have none at all. All roar with no teeth of authority to back them up. When push came to shove, the Cowardly Lion always buckled under and whimpered when anyone of any size or stature challenged him. He wanted courage from the Grand Wizard, so he was awarded a medal of “official” recognition. Now, regardless of how much of a coward he still was, his official status made him a bully with officially recognized authority. He’s just like the Attorneys who hide behind the Middle Courts of the Temple Bar.

    What about the trip through the field of poppies? Notice how it never affected the Straw Man (no brain) or the TIN Man (no heart or soul)? They weren’t real people, so drugs had no effect on them. The Wizard of Oz was written at the turn of the century, so how could the author have known America was going to be drugged?

    The Crown has been playing the drug cartel game for centuries. Just look up the history of Hong Kong and the Opium Wars. The Crown already had valuable experience conquering all of China with drugs, so why not the rest of the world? Who finally exposed the Wizard for what he really was?

    Toto, the ugly (or cute, depending on your perspective) and somewhat annoying little dog. Toto means “in total, all together; Latin in toto.” Notice how Toto was not scared of the Great Wizard’s theatrics, yet he was so small in size compared to the Wizard, no-one seemed to notice him. The smoke, flames and hologram images were designed to frighten people intodoing as the Great Wizard of Oz commanded. Toto simply went over, looked behind the curtain ­ the court – (see the definition for curtain above), saw it was a scam, and started barking until others paid attention to him and came to see what all the barking was about. Who was behind the curtain?

    Just an ordinary person controlling the levers that created the illusions of the Great Wizard’s power and authority. When Toto pulled back the curtain to completely expose him, the charade was over. The veil hiding the corporate legal fiction and its false courts was removed. The Wizard’s game was up. It’s too bad that people don’t realize how loud a bark from a little dog is.

    How about your bark? Do you just remain silent and wait to be given whatever food and recognition, if any, your legal master gives you? Let’s not forget those pesky flying monkeys. What a perfect mythical creature to symbolize the Bar Association Attorners who attack and control all the little people for the Great Crown Wizard, the powerful and grand Bankers of Oz – Gold.

    What is it going to take to expose the Wizard and tear down the court veil for what they really are? Each of us needs only a brain, a heart and soul, and courage. Then, and most importantly, we all need to learn how to work together. Only “in toto,” working together as one Body of the King of Kings, can we ever be free or have the freedom given under God’s Law. Mystery Babylon Revealed.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/corporate_u_s/news.php?q=1283975816

  15. bo Corexit Poisoning of Gulf Coast Residents :

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  16. Of Course Hawaii is going to change the rules to seem to not be breaking the law. Progressive Tactic. If you find that what you do breaks the LAW, change the LAW.

  17. Hmmm…
    The facilitator first works the crowd to cause dis-equilibrium-establishing a bad guy good guy scenario. Anyone who might not agree with the facilitator must be seen by the participants as the bad guy, the facilitator the good guy. This is done by seeking out those who might not agree with the facilitator and making them look foolish, inept, or aggressive, sending a clear message to the audience that if they don’t want the same treatment to keep quiet. The facilitator is well trained in how to recognize and exploit many different psychological truisms to do this. At the point the opposition has been identified and alienated, the facilitator becomes the good guy – a friend – and the agenda and direction of the discusion is established without the audience ever being aware of it.

  18. Free Speech @ 9:42 am | What I find odd about the PTB argument is if all of DC is governed by unidentified PTB’s then office of potus, congress, supreme court is powerless and impotent. Think of the money the tax payers could save if they effectively have no jobs, PTB’s assumes they are just there for decoration.

  19. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech | September 9, 2010 at 9:42 am |

    =====================

    Thank you for quoting me correctly. This is a very critical concept. I don’t know to what extent they can get away with it, but it is almost guaranteed that the PTBs will try to do this. Marry my comment with [Emudude | September 9, 2010 at 9:14 am], above. You will receive considerable enlightenment. To wit:

    I find it hard to believe that reasonable people think that this administration will give up anything that will be damaging to their king. This is the Democrat Party we are talking about. They Lie, Cheat, Steal and then try to make us believe how Honorable they are. If they had the Honor of a Samurai, they would have commited sepu-ku eons ago.

    The PTB’s will find SOME excuse and SOME “reason” to make Barry legal – just exactly so they don’t turn the entire military into war criminals and the entire congress into traitors and half the people into accomplices.”

    Powerful, really powerful stuff. Failure to head the clear and obvious “handwriting on the wall” will be at grave peril to ourselves. We can not defeat our “enemies” if we don’t know how they think or what they are up to. And, no, nobody has said that the PTBs are the puppet masters. But what we have clearly said is that the PTBs will aid and abet the preservation of Zero because they fear that the resultant chaos and destruction would be worse.

  20. I feel another — you guessed it! — prayer proposal coming on.
    Sunday, 12:00 noon Central Daylight Time —
    Altogether, PRAY!!

    September 12th Rally
    ST. LOUIS TEA PARTY
    UNDER THE GATEWAY ARCH
    SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 12TH
    12 NOON – 4 PM

    Thanks for the update, Jonah.

  21. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm |

    ================================

    Perhaps you fail to understand what a PTB is. Maybe you have been reading too much R A P literature. They are not some sort of secret or mysterious “elders”. PTB is simply a short hand for the existing well-known power elite. It includes whatever is obvious and necessary from the context. Usually meant to cover at least some or all of:

    President and all his staff and advisors.

    Cabinet and department/agency heads.

    Both houses of congress and their staffs.

    The USSC and Federal courts.

    All the Alphabet Agencies.

    At least the top 2 or 3 tiers of the Military.

    Hope that clears up the confusion. I’m also hoping that others may have had this confusion, because it would explain the irrational knee-jerk reactions some have displayed against my work. If any of you thought I was describing one of the often-noted, or yet another, behind the scenes cabal, no wonder you recoiled. You should have run like hell, far far away!

  22. Additional Tea Parties are planned for September 12, including a massive rally in D.C.

    http://www.freedomworks.org/912-taxpayer-march-on-washington-2010

  23. The facilitator is there to move the discusion to a preset conclusion. This is done through a process known as the Delphi Technique, developed by the RAND Corporation for the US. Department of Defense as a psychological warfare weapon in the 50s and 60s. Comforting, no doubt.

  24. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Prairie | September 9, 2010 at 12:36 pm |

    ============================

    What are you describing? Sounds like a gathering of “UFO Spotters” or “truthers”.

  25. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm |
    Free Speech @ 9:42 am | What I find odd about the PTB argument is if all of DC is governed by unidentified PTB’s then office of potus, congress, supreme court is powerless and impotent. Think of the money the tax payers could save if they effectively have no jobs, PTB’s assumes they are just there for decoration.
    ===========================================

    EXCELLENT POINT! Michelle!

    That is what citizen carlyle and his obot cheerleaders would like us all to believe that we all are powerless against bo & the ptbs. To cc & the other obots, I say BS! We Patriots will INDICT CONVICT & IMPRISON all the obots & ptbs as well as bo.

  26. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) @ 12:53 pm | The little I read of RAP I never understood. If this is our PTB’a group big problems– as a group and individually not too bright and obviously useless. Small government, so small you can barely see it will be an idea that will catch fire soon.

  27. Rosemary Woodhouse

    @ Prairie- four winds is not a credible source unless you’re into Urantia, channeling and all of that new age crap.

  28. Free Speech @ 12:57 pm |
    “We Patriots will INDICT CONVICT & IMPRISON all the obots & ptbs as well as bo.” Baby I’m with you. This is what happens to us people that are of mixed blood-this gets the French and Austro-Hungarian blood a boiling. Freedom fighters from the get go. Thank God for the Constitution of the United States of America.

  29. CC,
    In all honesty, I think FS know exactly what I am talking about with the Delphi Technique. Know why I call him FS and not Free Speech? Nothing about what he is facilitating allows for “free speech.”

  30. “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
    — Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States

  31. Rosemary,
    Considering the censorship, silence, and outright lies of the major media outlets… please define a “credible source” for me.

  32. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 1:03 pm |
    Free Speech @ 12:57 pm |
    “We Patriots will INDICT CONVICT & IMPRISON all the obots & ptbs as well as bo.” Baby I’m with you. This is what happens to us people that are of mixed blood-this gets the French and Austro-Hungarian blood a boiling. Freedom fighters from the get go. Thank God for the Constitution of the United States of America.
    ===========================================

    U GO GIRL!

  33. Philo-Publius | September 9, 2010 at 1:07 pm |
    “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
    – Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    GREAT QUOTE from a GREAT PRESIDENT!

  34. I have to read Hillbuzz everyday because of the DC, Chicago connection-plus I think the boys have some very good connections and ears to the ground. In vino veritas, one thing you can count on in Chicago is some guy is going to get drunk and spill everything-bar room brawl may ensue. Some things you can just count on.
    http://hillbuzz.org/
    Obama, in our opinion, has destroyed the Democrat Party for a generation, at least. The media won’t admit this, and many of you even are skeptical of this fact, but we keep telling you that we’ve never seen so many lifelong Democrats abandon the party, disgusted by its complete and permanent takeover by the Left. People didn’t feel this way in the 80s, after the disaster of Carter and the bumbling of Mondale and Dukakis.
    This is new.
    It’s an awakening to the fact that Democrats aren’t just bad at governing, but are bad for America. Period.

  35. For Cabby only..look what I found!!!!

    http://www.environmentalleader.com/2007/02/24/ge-developing-incandescent-light-bulb-that-matches-cfls-efficiency/
    <bGE Developing Incandescent Light Bulb That Matches CFL’s Efficiency<b
    (I just finished switching all CFL back to incandescent…I really don't like the lightage I was getting, yuk…and will search for cheapest so I can buy lots))

  36. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Emudude | September 9, 2010 at 12:19 pm |

    ==============================

    I think many (even posting here) don’t know or have forgot how much “skin” HI’s got in this game. I don’t think they care a fig about Soetoro one way or another – especially the Republican governor, etc.

    They have a MUCH BIGGER secret.

    That is what THEY are trying to hide. In order to obtain truth about Soetoro, the whole country would necessarily be exposed to the mechanics of the transition of HI to statehood. The total lack of control and traceability for the initial citizens. The ease of obtaining that most valuable of attributes: American Citizenship.

    It is even worse than that. The economic and welfare fraud perpetrated by “encouraging” people to sign up, and the purposeful lies and known evasions to get as many people signed up as possible. That whole process is/was almost identical in scope and depravity to the recent Democrat voter fraud issues, especially including Black Panthers and ACORN.

    If the HI records are reviewed, and Soetoro is exposed, the whole world will see loud and clear how badly the rest of us were FLOCKED! (sort of a cross between “fleeced” and, well, you know the other word).

  37. Hillbuzz boys crack me up with their naughtiness and there are always thinking–yes, what’s up with this?
    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/09/09/question-has-anyone-noticed-that-ever-since-obama-and-kal-penn-broke-up-theres-no-more-state-media-focus-on-his-workouts-or-basketball-buddy-sessions/
    Here’s something weird that’s occurred to us: when is the last time the state media waxed on for pages about Obama’s workouts, or how he loves “playing basketball” with all of his various 20-something male “buddies”?

  38. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 1:17 pm |

    It’s an awakening to the fact that Democrats aren’t just bad at governing, but are bad for America. Period.

    ====================================

    WOW – if that is what people are awakening to, then a giant “V8 Moment” indeed. Maybe a wee glimmer of hope?

  39. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) @ 1:27 pm | We are all Americans first, or should be.

  40. ” for September/October the Fed is now expected to monetize double the amount of bonds in Aug/Sept. In other words, the Primary Dealers, aka Fed Lites, will be using tens of billions of brand new Fed printed money to chase the highest beta stocks they can find. And they will most certainly be using made up government data to facilitate this pursuit. ”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fed-ramp-stocks-september-thanks-front-loaded-pomo-schedule

  41. “Call it the fitting end to Recovery Summer. Joe Biden promised us 500,000 new jobs a month, but instead we have the Fed warning that even the meager growth seen in the past few months may be reversing itself. The new “beige book” from the Federal Reserve warns that “widespread signs of deceleration” will slow the American economy even further:”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/09/fed-economy-shows-widespread-signs-of-deceleration/

  42. “The US government plan is to eventually take ownership of all assets in IRAs and 401K accounts and replace them with US government “Treasury Retirement Bonds.” In the October 2008 hearings, it was proposed that these bonds pay a 3% interest rate. Another major change is that, upon retirement, the individual’s retirement account would be converted into an annuity.”

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/166/974/Confiscation_of_Private_Retirement_Accounts:_US_Departments_of_Labor_and_Treasury_Schedule_Hearing.html

  43. http://hillbuzz.org/2010/09/09/why-obamas-poor-showing-in-cleveland-yesterday-is-a-bigger-harbinger-of-doom-than-you-might-realize/
    Yesterday, our illustrious president, Dr. Utopia, the Lightbringer whom Democrats cast Hillary Clinton aside for and proclaimed to be a demigod sent from the stars to usher in a Golden Age of Hope and Change, couldn’t fill the auditorium of a community college in Parma, Ohio.
    So, the notion that Obama couldn’t fill an auditorium that a teen quiz show competition stacked to the rafters on an early Saturday morning…and couldn’t generate rock star excitement in a city like Parma, Ohio that’s hard-wired and ever-ready to come out en masse and host a presidential visit parade…and didn’t inspire weeping and crying on every publicly available viewing platform for his arrival…SHOULD MAKE DEMOCRATS SHIVER WITH DOOM.
    This is a canary in the coal mine, folks.
    Tri-C students recruited to fill the seats for the Obama appearance, all Obama’s lies are coming home to roost. He can’t fool anybody anymore.

  44. THANK YOU, msm!

    Keep up the pathetic coverage of aka obama, the usurper. You are accelarating the disenchantment and turning people off in droves.

    Not only that, people can’t even stand to watch YOU, the msm, any more.

    Keep up the great, I mean, pathetic work.

  45. Obama’s Executive “Pay Czar” Feinberg Received Six-Figure Salary According to Documents Uncovered by Judicial Watch
    —————————————————
    Treasury Documents Contradict Press Reports that Feinberg “is receiving no compensation for his role”
    Contact Information:
    Press Office 202-646-5172, ext 305

    Washington, DC — September 9, 2010
    Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has uncovered U.S. Treasury Department documents that reveal President Obama’s “Special Master for TARP Executive Compensation” Kenneth Feinberg received a $120,830 annual salary to establish executive compensation levels at companies bailed out by the federal government. These documents contradict multiple press reports that Feinberg would not be compensated for this work for the Treasury Department. Judicial Watch received the documents pursuant to its Freedom of Information Act request filed July 20, 2010.

    When President Obama appointed Washington lawyer Kenneth Feinberg “Pay Czar” in 2009, the press reported that he would perform his duties pro bono. Dozens of mainstream media stories confirmed that Feinberg, founder and managing partner of the Washington, D.C., firm Feinberg Rozen LLP, would not receive a salary to set pay limits for more than two dozen executives at companies receiving government bailouts. For example, Reuters reported in August 2009, “Feinberg is receiving no compensation for his role.”

    full story link

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2010/sep/obama-s-executive-pay-czar-feinberg-received-six-figure-salary-according-documents-unc

  46. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 1:17 pm |
    Obama, in our opinion, has destroyed the Democrat Party for a generation, at least. ..
    It’s an awakening to the fact that Democrats aren’t just bad at governing, but are bad for America. Period.

    ===============================================

    I agree but for this: “Obama, in our opinion, has destroyed the Democrat Party for a generation, at least.”

    bo has TOTALLY DESTROYED the demRat party.” Sure, demRats will limp along as a fringe party like the NATIONAL SOCIALIST (NAZI) PARTY but I doubt that the demRat party will ever again be the party of my Irish/American parents generation. Had President Clinton and Hillary not embraced bo, they might have saved their party but I do not see that happening now.

  47. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech | September 9, 2010 at 2:04 pm |

    ==================================

    I wish you were right, but the Liberal/Progressives are so DEEPLY embedded in our education system, that I don’t see that happening. Real everyday people out in the real everyday world are getting more and more disillusioned with Democrats. But it seems to me that the Zero Worship is still going strong with both teachers and students.

    I think maybe it is more like a Whack-A-Mole game. I anticipate them popping up again and again all over the place. I think they will remain an EVER PRESENT DANGER.

  48. bob strauss | September 8, 2010 at 11:51 pm |

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 3, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    ”The Nail in Lakin’s Coffin..
    … orders come from the Pentagon, not the CiC…
    “That nails it. It totally derails Lakin’s case and totally removes Zero from the discussion. In fact: END OF DISCUSSION!”
    ******************************************************************

    We have not yet begun to fight. When this attempted usurpation is finally dealt with, it will be a long time before an ineligible candidate will make it on to a ballot for president.
    ===========================================

    Well Said, bob!

  49. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 1:29 pm |

    We are all Americans first, or should be.

    ===========================

    Yes – “or should be” – that’s the key –
    But I don’t think we are quite there yet.

  50. IF I must be subjected to the term “birther,” a propaganda tactic designed to dehumanize, discount, divert, discriminate, and destroy. (But, one which we “responsible adults” have cleverly and proudly appropriated for our own ends. heh heh)

    THEN, in the grand tradition of the masters of the game, the very BEST at the name-calling genre, yep, the KIDS, I stoop to retaliate in kind.

    Birther?!!

    Well, at least I’m not a SHIRKER, like you.

    Shirker, shirker, shirker.

    Did not!!!! You DID!!

    Am not!! YOU are!

    Am not. Am not. Am not.

    Soooooo? Who cares?!! Who cares what a shirker says?

    So what?!! I’m T E L L I N G!!

    Carter is a SHIRKER. Land is a SHIRKER. Lind is a SHIRKER. SCOTUS is a SHIRKER. Every U.S. Senator and Representative is a SHIRKER.

    So THERE!! Nanny, nanny, nanoo.

    Wow! I feel so much better. There’s something to be said for this form of anti-social, I mean, social engagement.

  51. I believe that, actually, the movement to suppress the eligibility issue is all but defeated.

    If we “responsible adults” were defeated, the LAST thing happening would be aka obama on t.v. lamely telling us that he can’t wear his birth certificate on his forehead, especially in response to poll results that reflect growing numbers who disbelieve his “birther” story.

  52. Free Speech @ 2:04 pm | I agree-I think they murdered the Democratic party and/or suicide by Obama. The Irish always got our country and our values-I have no Irish in me-but my godparents were Irish in Chicago. My godmothers father taught us about politics at the age of 6 and we LOVED it, took to it like little ducks to water. My girlfriend and I grew up together and the Irish pass down the lore from generation to generation. I remember her telling me that during the Irish holocaust 1/3 of the population died of starvation (potato famine) 1/3 came to American, and the remainder stayed in Ireland. Chicago has many Irish bars-I remember we had dates in one and the Irish guys started singing and it was so sad us girls had to leave-just a melancholy the guys had to work through-it’s Chicago thing. We leave the guys in peace when they need to solve things in their own minds.
    bo has TOTALLY DESTROYED the demRat party.” Sure, demRats will limp along as a fringe party like the NATIONAL SOCIALIST (NAZI) PARTY but I doubt that the demRat party will ever again be the party of my Irish/American parents generation. Had President Clinton and Hillary not embraced bo, they might have saved their party but I do not see that happening now

  53. More ccBO BS! If bo was a “untouchable hero of the downtrodden and disenfranchised” like ccBO says then he would have been able to at least draw a crowd at that small school in Ohio.

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 9, 2010 at 2:12 pm |

    “Zero Worship is still going strong with both teachers and students.”–Direct Quote from ccBO September 9, 2010 at 2:12 pm .

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 1, 2010 at 9:11 pm |

    Obamessiah. He will be the untouchable hero of the downtrodden and disenfranchised.
    .

    MY expectation is that he will use the power and forces at his disposal to escape to another country where he will be honored and cherished.

    Obama will be a GOD

  54. My world is replete with
    Tares among the wheat
    Wolves among the sheep
    Predators from the deep
    Vipers untold
    Thieves in the sheepfold
    Blind guides
    The falsely guised
    Camouflaged foe
    And rampaging faux

    The possibility of posters with ulterior motives posing as patriots???
    No worries, here.

    Not my job to separate the tares from the wheat . (Matthew 13:24-30)

    BUT . . . I do have tons of questions . . Like, does one get more points when posters stop posting or when “regulars” engage in exhaustive sniping? Can one just sign up to be a snake amongst the grass or must one be recruited?

    Maybe someone could submit an annonymous expose to the Globe (one of the most honest periodicals around these days.)

  55. (carried over from prior thread)
    TO SAVE A CONTINENT
Geert Wilders released 9/9/10 (speech given to House of Lords in London March, 2010

    For anyone interested in Islamic takeover in Europe, this is a must read by GEERT WILDERS, a modern-day equivalent of Churchill.

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/09/09/to-save-a-continent/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FrontpageMag+%28FrontPage+Magazine+»+FrontPage%29

    This is something that we Americans should really heed, because we are facing the same enemy.

  56. !?!! @ 2:27 pm |
    “obama on t.v. lamely telling us that he can’t wear his birth certificate on his forehead”- actually I think it would improve his appearance much like a bag over his head. My favorite picture of him is the Louis XIV portrait-it’s so him.

  57. JJ | September 9, 2010 at 1:18 pm |
    For Cabby only..look what I found!!!!
    **************************
    Say, thanks so much for the article! I hope that GE can pull it off before they are “ruled” out completely. Did you read the comment from the person that is terribly affected healthwise by the mercury in the new bulbs? I need to get to Wal-Mart pronto while they still hopefully have the ones we want in stock. Needed that boost!

  58. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 2:28 pm |
    Free Speech @ 2:04 pm | The Irish always got our country and our values-I have no Irish in me-but my godparents were Irish in Chicago. My girlfriend and I grew up together and the Irish pass down the lore from generation to generation. I remember her telling me that during the Irish holocaust 1/3 of the population died of starvation (potato famine) 1/3 came to American, and the remainder stayed in Ireland.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    My Irish Ancestors migrated to the US via New Orleans where they survived the Yellow Fever. That is one reason that I love New Orleans and am OUTRAGED by bo’s POISONING of the Residents of the Gulf Coast.

  59. Michelle – 1:23 PM
    “Here’s something weird that’s occurred to us: when is the last time the state media waxed on for pages about Obama’s workouts, or how he loves “playing basketball” with all of his various 20-something male “buddies”?”
    ************************************
    Last evening I read something about Islam that was very interesting. We all have heard how severely they punish gays, since that perversion is against the Koran; however, somehow in a twisted way Islam does countenance older men having relationships with younger boys. SICK! SICK! But what ISN’T twisted about Islam??

  60. Fernley Girl | September 9, 2010 at 1:41 pm |
    “The US government plan is to eventually take ownership of all assets in IRAs and 401K accounts and replace them with US government “Treasury Retirement Bonds.”
    ****************************
    Yes, some of my clients have decided on their own to have IRA’s distributed to them (they are retirement age) and pay the regular tax this year, for a couple of reasons: The uncertainty about the gov’t’s plan to “control” the assets and the fact that tax rates are probably going up in future years. I have not discouraged them from taking this step.

  61. OK FOLKS – Time to take-off the gloves. One must always take advantage of one’s enemy’s weaknesses with one’s own strengths. All week the USURPER has been harping and attacking Congressman John Boehner on his daily speeches As most of you know Cong. Boehner could be the next Speaker Of The House. What most people don’t know is that he is one of the best golfers in congress. Now, we know how bad the USURPER is in golf. In fact there are hardly any known videos of him playing any where. Now we set the trap. As sports minded as our nation is and how much we support charities I suggest Boehner CHALLENGE the USURPER to a golf match. As an example we could call it the “USURPER Opened”. If it was advertised that all the money raised would be for charity then HOW COULD HE REFUSE???
    PS – Rush Limbaugh and Larry Sinclair could be the caddies
    PPS – 100 million would watch – Ratings -Ratings – Ratings

    Now lets put our heads together and spread the word.

    Hopefully someone in the Republican Party – Young Republicans – Tea Party – Constitutionalists – Conservatives – BelieversInRestoringTheHallowedEternalRepublic can put their heads together and Ring The Usurper’s Bell

  62. Citizen WElls, there is another path for finding information on Obama and his mother’s trip to the US. Consider they flew in on an International flight into Chicago. Records are held by this airline and my attempt last year proved it would require a Court Order to surface the information. They would have needed the required papers to enter the US but the flight information proves they made their way here. Please note that Orly Taits talked to me about this idea which unfortuantely I ended up running into a dead end.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

  63. Barbour: We Know Little About Obama
    Why do so many Americans question President Barack Obama’s religious status and even his citizenship?
    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/barbour-obama-wright-birth/2010/09/08/id/369618?s=al&promo_code=AB22-1

  64. Video: Black Panthers Tell Koran Burners “You Will Be A Target”

  65. oldsalt79 | September 9, 2010 at 9:04 am |
    I truly believe these records are/were destroyed….now, who goes to jail is another matter, ya think??
    As I don’t buy the story of mother/granny dead…stuck in a cabin, guarded 24/7 for granny…living the secluded, rich life guarded by CIA is mother, facelift included…

  66. LM | September 9, 2010 at 3:31 pm |
    Video: Black Panthers Tell Koran Burners “You Will Be A Target”LM
    ***********************************************
    Boy, they’re all crawling out of the woodwork now! Maybe a little heat and light is what they need to reveal their devilish ways.

  67. Marty Didier @ 3:21 pm |
    Marty is it possible they went into Midway? It was still operational in 1961. Midway went so back and forth with O’Hare that I forget.
    http://www.flychicago.com/events/KidsPage2006/OHareHistory.shtm
    All scheduled Midway Airport operations were transferred to O’Hare by 1962. The additional transferred flights made the passenger numbers rise to 10 million by the end of the year, making O’Hare the “World’s Busiest Airport”.

  68. bo’s TERRORIST iman THREATENS TERROR ATTACKS in New York if bo’s GROUND ZERO mosque is stopped.

  69. LM | September 9, 2010 at 3:31 pm |
    Video: Black Panthers Tell Koran Burners “You Will Be A Target”

    =============================================

    While Rev. Jones has a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to burn the koran, I do not think it was a good idea to create this furor, but he has already be THREATENED by the the foreign and domestic boTERRORISTS, so there is no turning back now. I pray that God will protect America from the boTERRORIST iman’s THREATS to NY as well as the npp THREATS to the Good Christians in Florida.

  70. For all of those who were onto Obamas insanity early on, and we told them, finally some are getting the picture.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/09/09/victor-david-hansons-new-piece-on-obamas-petulance-is-so-good-youll-want-to-wallpaper-your-kitchen-with-it-so-you-can-gaze-at-it-in-morning-coffee-scented-sunshine-every-day/

    “since the Obama presidency is now such a world-recognized disaster that everyone who pushed him into office, and lavished him with every imaginable award, looks like an abject, naked FOOL.
    ‘Bout damn time.”
    (more)

  71. Police wants access to patients medical records . No not Venezuela, Cuba but good old North Carolina,US of A .
    http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/09/08/669723/lists-of-pain-pillpatients-sought.html

  72. The HDP refusing to certify Obama’s eligibility is bad enough as it is, but for the HDP’s usual legal counsel to be the very person who has probably seen Obama’s non-Hawaii birth certificate is explosive.

    http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/certificate-of-nomination-summary/

    So, what does Brian Schatz know and is not telling??
    1)he was Obama’s campaign spokesman in Hawaii
    2) he graduated from (and later taught at) Punahou School ,where Obama graduated (had access to any school records?)
    3)he spent a year in Kenya in 1992 (which overlaps Barack and Michelle’s visit to Kenya shortly before their wedding (getting really suspicious now)
    4) he is now running for lieutenant governor and has been endorsed by Obama’s half-sister, Maya.

    Well, case closed…another pay-to-play and a definite conflict of interest!!!

  73. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 9, 2010 at 1:21 pm |

    Emudude | September 9, 2010 at 12:19 pm |

    ==============================

    I think many (even posting here) don’t know or have forgot how much “skin” HI’s got in this game. I don’t think they care a fig about Soetoro one way or another – especially the Republican governor, etc.

    They have a MUCH BIGGER secret.

    That is what THEY are trying to hide. In order to obtain truth about Soetoro, the whole country would necessarily be exposed to the mechanics of the transition of HI to statehood. The total lack of control and traceability for the initial citizens. The ease of obtaining that most valuable of attributes: American Citizenship.

    It is even worse than that. The economic and welfare fraud perpetrated by “encouraging” people to sign up, and the purposeful lies and known evasions to get as many people signed up as possible. That whole process is/was almost identical in scope and depravity to the recent Democrat voter fraud issues, especially including Black Panthers and ACORN.

    If the HI records are reviewed, and Soetoro is exposed, the whole world will see loud and clear how badly the rest of us were FLOCKED! (sort of a cross between “fleeced” and, well, you know the other word).
    ****************
    This is VERY much the truth, as a resident of this Socialist state I can attest to this fact.

  74. bo THREATENS AMERICANS with boTERRORIST ATTACKS if the Good Christians in Florida exercise their FREE SPEECH right to burn the koran.

    MSNBC:

    “Speaking on ABC’s “Good Morning America” in an interview broadcast Thursday, Obama warned that Rev. Terry Jones’ plan would endanger U.S. troops and could lead to serious violence in Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

    “The president also said Jones’ plan, if carried out, could serve as an incentive for terrorist-minded individuals “to blow themselves up” to kill others.”

  75. From a post ..who thinks like I do, just bombers in my scenario, not wall street hackers…

    The only defense I could offer for Chief Justice Roberts is if he and the other members of SCOTUS have been told that if they ruled wrongly Soros and the Islamists would create a financial panic which would destroy the entire world economy.
    And these judges, putting in a zinger so people will smell a rat and know something’s not right. A lot of us are infuriated by those zingers, but that may be exactly what the judges need us to be, might be what they’re aiming for.

  76. I knew I had read this about HI from several sources. Below you will find the details of the arguement that HI is NOT and a state. If I am not mistaken, they are exempt from the Healthcare Bill as well.

    In 1959 Hawaii’s plebiscite vote was held, and again, the United States government bent the rules. The plebiscite ballot only had the choice between statehood and remaining a territory. No option for independence appeared on the ballot as was required under the UN charter. Cheated out of their independence yet again, Hawaiians voted for the lesser of two evils and became the 50th state.

    In 1988, a study by the United States Justice Department concluded that Congress did not have the authority to annex Hawaii by joint resolution. The ersatz annexation was a cover for the military occupation of the Hawaiian islands for purposes related to the Spanish American war.

    On November 23, 1993, President Clinton signed United States Public Law 103-150, which not only acknowledged the illegal actions committed by the United States in the overthrow of the legitimate government of Hawaii, but also that the Hawaiian people never surrendered their sovereignty. The latter is the most important part of United States Public Law 103-150 for it makes it quite clear that the Hawaiian people never legally ceased to be a sovereign separate independent nation. There is no argument that can change that fact.

    United States Public Law 103-150, despite its polite language, is an official admission that the government of the United States illegally occupies the territory of the Hawaiian people.

    In 1999, the United Nations confirmed that the plebiscite vote that led to Hawaii’s statehood was in violation of article 73 of the United Nations’ charter. The Hawaii statehood vote, under treaty then in effect, was illegal and non-binding. (The same is true of the Alaska plebiscite).

    In a world where nations are as governed by laws as are men, Hawaii is not and has never legally been a part of the United States. Hawaii was stolen from the Hawaiian people, and they want it back.

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/HAWAII/hawaii.html

  77. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 9, 2010 at 1:21 pm |
    Emudude | September 9, 2010 at 12:19 pm |

    ==============================

    I think many (even posting here) don’t know or have forgot how much “skin” HI’s got in this game. I don’t think they care a fig about Soetoro one way or another – especially the Republican governor, etc.

    So, is it their jobs they’re worried about?? Or discovery of their illicit behavior when officials are forced to look closer?
    ‘Splain, please.

  78. JJ | September 9, 2010 at 5:19 pm |
    CC…don’t reply…I read the entire comment–I have read that reasoning before–sounds like it has lots of validity—but happening so many years ago?? who’s neck would be on the chopping block?? Noone??

  79. Prairie | September 9, 2010 at 5:08 pm |
    *********
    Exactly Prairie, Hawaii is not legally a state, nor have the monies promised to it’s people ever been paid by the U.S., the military currently occupies lands of which leases have yet to be paid. Queen Liliuokalani was the last reigning monarch of the Hawaiian islands, she was informed to hand over Hawaii or your people will perish. She saved her people and handed over Hawaii to the United States.
    The way in which Hawaii has for years given U.S. Citizenship to illegal aliens is only one Hawaii’s paybacks to the United States.

  80. “The way in which Hawaii has for years given U.S. Citizenship to illegal aliens is only one of Hawaii’s paybacks to the United States”

    And just HOW is this done?

    CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH

    Sound familiar?

  81. Marty Didier……………………………….
    I strongly agree with you in the sense that flight manifests would offer definite time line establishment,along with the names of EVERYONE ON BOARD( INCLUDING INFANTS.) I have been following this path for over a year,but am not totally convinced that she would have chosen to re enter the US in Chicago, although I quickly add that there might be a possibility of that having occured. I eschanged several emails with Steve Pidgeon who had just decided that they needed to take this on from a different perspective,and they did. His team was unsuccessful. From that date forward his organisation expended no further effort in trying to locate POE records. I still think that owing to time constraints Dunham was aboard a non stop flight from either New York or Boston . But any non stop for the West coast would have set down in Chicago for fuel, and other necesasities., and /or to discharge passengers who were bound for Chicago. I think that ultimately her travel records ,be it a passenger manifest,or actrual CUSTOMS info it will more than likely be found at SEA TAC International. I could be wrong! I hope that some enterprising soul finds either of these documents very soon. If either is found it will with out a doubt cause a great deal of retribution with a WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. In short the FECES will indeed hit the fan!

  82. !?!! | September 9, 2010 at 1:55 pm |
    THANK YOU, msm!

    And how about Newsweek being sold for $1–yep…one dollar!!
    couldn’t happen to a nicer azz kisser!!

  83. The Florida pastor calls off quran burning. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909
    /ap_on_re_us/quran_burning

  84. Marty Didier……………….
    There was a NON SCHED Airline that operated across the US in those days. It was North American Airlines. In the 1950s they operated mostly DC6B aircraft. In all probability they later acquired some 707s, and perhaps some 737s as well. They had a perfect record in those days. In the 1950s they flew out of and into Midway. I cannot remember if they had a flight to Seattle. In the 50s they depended on interconnecting coastal small carriers to get their passengers either up or down the West Coast. These were usually birds like converted AT 11s, c 47, and a lockheed Lodestar…out of either Lindbergh airport, or LAX.

  85. Sorry, the Florida pastor’s story link didn’t work. Let me try again…
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning

  86. Marty Didier……………………
    If you have some Customs connections now would be an excellent time to see if they are interested in doing some research in the spirit of SAVING OUR COUNTRY.

  87. oldsalt79 @ 5:38 pm | You made me remember something, I was a little kid and we lived near O’Hare, in 61 and 62 there was a lot of plane crashes to the point of sickening. I think they were still flying prop jets then. Seemed like every other day there was news of yet another plane crash, it was horrible that is why I remembered it. I’m thinking as in 10-15 in the space of two years very approx.

  88. What is Rev Jones going to do now that these liars have hoodwinked him into believing that they would move bo’s gz mosque, after he foolishly relied on their “word” and announced the termination of the 911 koran burning?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/pastor-terry-jones-calls-off-koran-burning-ground-zero-mosque/story?id=11594495

    The fiery pastor said that Imam Abdel Rauf, the leader behind the Ground Zero mosque in Manhattan, will meet with him in New York on Saturday.

    “He has agreed to move it,” Jones said referring to the Ground Zero Islamic cultural center and mosque. “And we have agreed to cancel our event on Saturday.”

    “Americans don’t want the mosque there and of course Muslims don’t want us to burn Korans,” said Jones.

    Jones appeared with Imam Muhammad al-Masri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida who said “the placement of the mosque near Ground Zero is unnecessary and it has become a clear provocation to many people to be violent against mosques across the nation.”

    It was al-Masri who brokered the conversation between Jones and Rauf.

    But as soon as Jones and al-Masri finished speaking, denials were issued that the Islamic community center and mosque would be moved away from its current controversial location.

    “The Muslim Community Center called Park51 in Lower Manhattan is not being moved,”

    read a statement from SoHo Properties, the developer of the community center that is being called the Ground Zero Mosque.

  89. oldsalt79,
    Thanks for the replies and information. Following my talk with Orly Taits I had an opportunity to discuss this request for these documents with an employee for an International Airline company. There I learned the path of requirements to achieve my goal but was without ability to do so. I was told that all manifests are stored and even archived and are retrievable. A Court Order would open up the ability to retrieve them. However considering the situation of our Justice system I wasn’t confident that would produce anything. But that was a year ago and perhaps attitudes have changed. An example explained was that the British place a higher level of value on privacy which means going through them in Britan may fail but here in the US it may be different. The good news is this information is considered to exist!

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

  90. Michelle……………………………….
    North American used Midway with all of their flights in the mid to late fifties. After that it is concieveable that they might have changed terminals. Inasmuch as they were a NON SCHED airline(DIDN’T carry mail) I would think that they would have opted to stay at Midway. The traffic at midway was not really what you could call congested in those days after Ohare opened. At least I don’t remember ever sitting on the taxiway for hours at a time. Usually it was UP UP and away in about 25 minutes or so from the time we sat down. All the vibrators always sounded great. I don’t ever remember hearing a sick engine on a North American Flight.

  91. Cabby – AZ at 4:03 pm

    Boy, they’re all crawling out of the woodwork now! Maybe a little heat and light is what they need to reveal their devilish ways.
    ————————————–

    They certainly didn’t have the same outrage when politicians and ACLU types wanted to release the Abu Ghraib prison photos which stirred up the radical Muslims at that time?

  92. http://www.ocala.com/article/20100909/ARTICLES/100909743/1412?Title=Westboro-Baptish-Church-to-burn-Qurans-if-Dove-doesn-t

    Westboro Baptist Church… has vowed to hold a Quran burning if Gainesville’s Dove World Outreach Center calls its off.

    “WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things,” the church announced in a news release this week.

  93. Radical Judge Blocks PA Town From Cracking Down on Illegal Immigration

    A federal appeals court ruled Thursday that Hazleton, Pa., may not enforce its crackdown on illegal immigrants, dealing another blow to 4-year-old regulations that inspired similar measures around the country.

    The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia said that Hazleton’s Illegal Immigration Relief Act usurped the federal government’s exclusive power to regulate immigration.

    http://tinyurl.com/36rgcvf

  94. Marty Didier………………………..
    When honestly applied obtaining the pertinent documents under FOIA would seem like a piece of cake!. But then there is the (alleged) DOJ. When or if they get involved “up” turns into “down”,and “left” becomes “right”, so typical of anything that the LIBERALS DO! Don’tcha think! By the way truth is usually a HUGE LIE!
    ***********************************************************************Do you think Daley is lying when he recently stated that he is going to hang up the jock!

  95. A “birther’s” definition of the term “Birther”:

    BIRTHER: One who has questions concerning the Constitutional qualifications of Obama to hold the office of President and Commander-In-Chief. One who seeks answers to many simple questions and contradictions concerning Obama’s past, which have been raised in over 100 law suits and all thrown out of court on technicalities, without discovery, for which Obama (and taxpayers) have paid millions of dollars to an army of attorneys.

    An “anti-birther’s” definition of the term “Birther:
    One who is a nut, loon, idiot, crackpot, psycho, whacko, one who supports loons and criminals, wears a tin foil hat, and is racist.

    http://tinyurl.com/35x85oy

  96. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/imam-trumps-america-no-deal-for-moving-nyc-mosque.html

    Imam Trumps America: No deal for Moving Ground Zero Islamic Supremacist Mega Mosque Join Our Rally Against the Mega Mosque at Ground Zero on September 11, 3pm
    September 11th Join Us at Ground Zero for Rally of Remembrance

    Yes to Freedom, No to Ground Zero Mosque

    Qu’ran burning, off. Islamic surpemacist Ground Zero mosque, on! Is anyone really surprised?
    The pastor canceled the qu’ran burning but whatever Rauf may have promised to the pastor is off. Taqiya.

    Investor in proposed NYC mosque site turns down Donald Trump’s offer to buy him out LA Times

  97. The Pentagon has confiscated a stack of Bibles sent to an Evangelical soldier in Afghanistan. The Bibles were printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages. Military rules forbid proselytizing. By the way, the Bibles were burned because the rules on the base say that all garbage is burned at the end of the day. But just asking here; if the U.S. Military seized a stack full of Korans, would they be burned? You think that might cause a little outrage in the Muslim world?

    Why no outrage in the Christian world? Because by now the anti-Christian ruling class has conditioned us to accept Bibles being regarded as trash — whereas Korans are sacred to Muslims and liberals alike.

    http://tinyurl.com/33d4n5r

  98. If it was up to me I would burn at least a hondred of them a day. I refuse to believe the Kouran (deliberately misspelled) as a scripture of RELIGION or GOD. While I have NOT read even 1 word of it . I don’t need to. I only need to look at the behavior of others who tout their LOVE for the DIRTY LITTLE BOOK.

  99. oldsalt79 | September 9, 2010 at 9:14 am | DOES SOETORO HAVE “STANDING” AGAINST FOIA? I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT HE IS ABOVE THE LAWS OF OUR LAND.

    ihv.. when you take over a country there are no more laws… and thats what happened to us…

    what gets me is in one of the vp’s speaches he made the statement that “we are ready to RULE on day one….

    am i the only one heard this? why didnt one news media make an issue of it.. we didnt hier a ruler… we hired a leader to lead us in the way WE WANTED THIS COUNTRY TO HEAD… and they now doing the ruling… laws no longer matter..

    and he is still around?
    will

  100. The father she is referring to is the “alleged” doctor who delivered Obama. The one named on the Kenyan Birth Certificate
    whom the Obama supporters claim never existed, hence, the birth certificate in their eyes was labeled a fraud.
    The daughter happens to be a Judge. Looks as if Dr James Ang’awa was real after all.

    > “I have forgiven you,” she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang’awa.

    Kenya: You Are Forgiven, Judge Tells Her Father’s Killer

    http://allafrica.com/stories/201002010485.html

  101. Free Speech 6:11pm………………..

    Right on, as I stated yesterday.

    Rev. Jones: ” Don’t burn the Korans”
    Imam Rauf: “Don’t build the mosque at ground zero”

    PEACE!

  102. ” we hired a leader to lead us in the way WE WANTED THIS COUNTRY TO HEAD… and they now doing the ruling… laws no longer matter..”

    *********************
    Worst sentence ever …..

    Wasn’t elected …….election was a fraud , undocumented usurper .
    Only dictatorships have a leader.
    Laws always matter…
    It’s called tyranny and treason .

  103. I believe that the alleged KOURAN (deliberately misspelled) will soon be the FAVORITE BOOK of many of our HIGHLY educated young females, and homosexual male YUPPIES. This also would apply to all of the immigrating MUSLIMS from the MIDDLE EAST, Europe, and probably soon Australia.This group of people are Soetoro’s fiercest, and most loyal supporters. There are millions of them, and the numbers are growing exponentially. Some folks think that less than 1% of our population is Muslim. I believe that it is closer to 3%. The rest of the immigration is Latino. We got one hell of a immigration problem. Too bad that our AG only knows how to fight our states rather than the problem at hand. I personally think that our AG is also muslim.

  104. Help Phil………………………

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  105. hapnHal | September 9, 2010 at 7:39 pm |
    Free Speech 6:11pm………………..

    Right on, as I stated yesterday.

    Rev. Jones: ” Don’t burn the Korans”
    Imam Rauf: “Don’t build the mosque at ground zero”

    PEACE!
    =====================================

    Of course, bo’s gz mosque iman rauf will continue with the building of bo’s gz mosque while humiliating Rev Jones if he goes to NY.

  106. oldsalt79 | September 9, 2010 at 7:09 pm | If it was up to me I would burn at least a hondred of them a day. I refuse to believe the Kouran (deliberately misspelled) as a scripture of RELIGION or GOD.

    ****************
    Just rub pig fat all over the covers , donate them to the Mosque , after they except them , tell them about the pig fat and then they will be forced to have their very own burn the Koran day .

  107. will at 7:27 pm

    what gets me is in one of the vp’s speaches he made the statement that “we are ready to RULE on day one….

    ————————————
    It was Valerie Jarret who said that.

    Valerie Jarrett told Tom Brokaw on Meet the Press in November 2008 that “given the daunting challenges that we face, it’s important that president elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one.”
    http://tinyurl.com/6h72ro

  108. ARMY DAV…………………………..
    The saddest part of it all …………how many people was questioning the eligibility before the election, as opposed to how many are questioning it now. These people are a DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT! It was supposed to happen before he was hired. I used to think that there was something called a political RESUME. I guess the DNC never heard of that. Ill bet that after November the LIBS will be ingesting a lot of PAIN KILLERS.

  109. ARMY D.A.V. @ 8:10 pm |
    Pork Belly futures ought to go sky high in the spring.

  110. Philo-Publius @ 8:20 pm |
    Where Obama/Jarrett “ruled” as community organizers for 20 years, most normal people call them slum landlords/thieves.
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
    Grim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy
    The candidate endorsed subsidies for private entrepreneurs to build low-income units. But, while he garnered support from developers, many projects in his former district have fallen into disrepair.

  111. http://www.sodahead.com/fun/al-taqiya-the-muslim-method-of-conquest/blog-231903/

    Al-Taqiya, The Muslim Method Of Conquest
    Posted 01/07/10 Read all 7 comments +2AL-TAQIYA…
    The Muslim Method Of Conquest
    By Professor Walid Phares

    In the early years of the Tawheed (Islamic conquest of the Arabian peninsula) and in the Fatah (Arab-Islamic invasion and conquest of the upper Middle East and the outside world), a Muslim concept was devised to achieve success against the enemy, Al-Taqiya..

    Al-Taqiya, from the verb Ittaqu, means linguistically dodge the threat. Politically it means simulate whatever status you need in order to win the war against the enemy..

    According to Al-Taqiya, Muslims were granted the Shar’iya (legitimacy) to infiltrate the Dar el-Harb (war zone), infiltrate the enemy’s cities and forums and plant the seeds of discord and sedition.(*0*) These agents were acting on behalf of the Muslim authority at war, and therefore were not considered as lying or denouncing the tenants of Islam.(*1*) They were “legitimate” mujahedeen, whose mission was to undermine the enemy’s resistance and level of mobilization. One of their major objectives was to cause a split among the enemy’s camp. In many instances, they convinced their targeted audiences that Jihad is not aimed at them, that indigenous people are not targeted, only Bysantium power. They convinced many Jews that they will be protected from Christians, called pagans,(*2*) and they convinced many Christians that Jews were the mortal enemies, because they killed Issa (Jesus).(*3*) They convinced the Aramaics, Copts, and Hebrews that the enemy is Greece, and signed peace agreements with the Bysantines Greeks at the expense of Maronite Aramaics, etc.(*4*)

    This Jihadic agency of subversion was one of the most fascinating and efficient arms of the conquest. In less them four decades the MIddle East fell to the Arab-Islamic rule, followed by north Africa and Central Asia.

    Al-Taqiya was a formidable weapon, used by the first dynasties and strategists. Today, scholars may identify it as deception. But the Jihadic deception was and still is more powerful than the James Bondian methods of Western classical intelligence tactics, for the simple reason that it has a civilizational, global dimension versus the narrow state interest of the regular Western subversive methods.

    Al-Taqiya is still in use today but not necessarily state-organized. One can easily detect Taqiya in the two discourses used by Islamist strategists. On the one hand, one comprehensive Islamist theory is attempting to mobilize Middle East, and sometimes Western Christian leaders and intellectuals, against “evil Jews.”(*5*) We see considerable success on that level. And on the other hand, another Islamist comprehensive theory is attemting -with success also- to mobilize the Jews against “evil and pagan Christians.”(*6*) One can easily detect the sophisticated work of Taqiya, for the strategic objective of Islamists is to destroy the foundations of the Judeo-Christian civilization, as a prelude to the defeat of an isolated Israel.

    Taqiya is not a unique phenomenon in History, many strategists from all backgrounds implemented subversion. But the uniqueness of today’s Taqiya is its success within advanced and sophisticated societies. Taqiya is winning massively because of the immense lack of knowledge among Western elites, both Jewish and Christian.(*7*)

  112. ARMYDAV ……………………………………….
    I can’t help wonder what a Muslim would do if he was about one step from starvation, and somebody dropped a food package to him containing pork loin chops.

  113. Free Speech @ 8:28 pm | Sounds like Machiavelli was a student or familiar with Al-Taqiyah.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli
    Like Leonardo da Vinci, Machiavelli was a Polymath. He is most famous for a short political treatise, The Prince, written in 1513, but not published until 1532, five years after Machiavelli’s death. Although he privately circulated The Prince among friends, the only work he published in his lifetime was The Art of War, about high-military science. Since the sixteenth century, generations of politicians remain attracted and repelled by the cynical approach to power posited in The Prince and his other works.[3] Whatever his personal intentions, which are still debated today, his surname yielded the modern political word Machiavellian—the use of cunning and deceitful tactics in politics.

  114. I got curious as to the relationship between Muslims and the 10 Commandments.
    http://www.islam101.com/religions/TenCommandments/tcQuran.htm
    Islam Supports Bible’s TEN Commandments
    by I.A. Arshed Ph.D
    Aug 26, 2003
    I have been pursuing the recent debate going on in the Press about Ten Commandments. Quran claims to testify what had been revealed before it (Torah and Gospel). I give passages in Exodus 20 (3-17) and the parallel verses of the Quran to show that Islam also testifies the Ten Commandments (which are upheld by other religions also as Universal Code of conduct.)
    “And They (Servants of God) do not testify falsely.” (25:72)

  115. Westboro Baptist Church… has vowed to hold a Quran burning if Gainesville’s Dove World Outreach Center calls its off.

    “WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things,” the church announced in a news release this week.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Muslims burning down Catholic churches in Sudan and Nigeria is commonplace according to African priests who visited my parish this past year. One of the priests said the people had just built themselves a new church, and worshipped in it for a few months before it was leveled. WHERE IS THE VATICAN’S OUTRAGE ON THESE HORRENDOUS CRIMES??
    So, the issue has nothing to do with whether someone should be allowed to burn a sacred text, but it has everything to do with the group you are offending. If you’re Christian, you can forget the powerful elites coming to your aid when your church is trashed or your crucifixes are covered up. Apparently, in present day America, ALL RELIGIONS ARE NOT EQUAL; as a matter of fact, the scales are tipping toward Mecca.
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/

  116. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 8:23 pm | ARMY D.A.V. @ 8:10 pm |
    Pork Belly futures ought to go sky high in the spring.

    **************
    Good question ……. I have no idea how those Barbarians would handle that situation .

  117. Michelle
    Sorry , Michelle , that reply was for Salt .

  118. http://www.oilforimmigration.org/
    Bombshell: Barack Obama conclusively outed as CIA creation – Thanks to Tonya Franklin
    NEWS ALERT: Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen is scheduled to appear live on the Alex Jones Show tomorrow THURSDAY AUGUST 19 at 1 PM EST / 12 NOON CST, to reveal his groundbreaking series on Barack Obama’s true origins. Madsen will share the bombshell revelations and extensive information from the following three articles– and even more that has not yet been revealed. Tell your friends, family and contacts to tune in and learn the truth. Also visit the Wayne Madsen Report for further research and other exclusive reports.
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  119. oldsalt79 | September 9, 2010 at 7:09 pm |
    If it was up to me I would burn at least a hondred of them a day. I refuse to believe the Kouran (deliberately misspelled) as a scripture of RELIGION or GOD. While I have NOT read even 1 word of it . I don’t need to. I only need to look at the behavior of others who tout their LOVE for the DIRTY LITTLE BOOK
    !!!!!!!!!!!
    I read the Koran is nothing but a writing of one man’s vision, in one man’s lifetime of a hate-filled world.
    Says even his rules of procedure/edict/doctrine change from one chapter to another.
    It’s fantasy….fiction at it’s finest…….UNLESS YOU ARE ISLAMIC AND THEN IT’S THEIR BIBLE.

  120. Philo-Publius | September 9, 2010 at 6:35 pm |
    Cabby – AZ at 4:03 pm

    Boy, they’re all crawling out of the woodwork now! Maybe a little heat and light is what they need to reveal their devilish ways.
    ————————————–

    They certainly didn’t have the same outrage when politicians and ACLU types wanted to release the Abu Ghraib prison photos which stirred up the radical Muslims at that time?
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Good point! Always inconsistent.

  121. Free Speech | September 9, 2010 at 8:28 pm |

    http://www.sodahead.com/fun/al-taqiya-the-muslim-method-of-conquest/blog-231903/
    *************************************************************
    Right on! Unfortunately we have the number one, Muslim liar in the white house, lying about his eligibility, to qualify to be president.

  122. JJ ………………………
    Your assessment of the Kouran(deliberately misspelled) is about the same as mine except I read not too long ago that the (alleged) author of the Kouran was a 1st class looney toon from the word go, and lived in his own little FANTASY world. Wouldn’t that be sort of the same thing as saying Bill Ayers is a fine upstanding citizen, and a renouned church pastor. If famous it would probably be in the same guise as the ALLEGED REV.WRIGHT.

  123. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/09/americans-wake-up-to-islamism.html

    9/11 provided a wake-up call, ending this sense of hopelessness. Americans reacted negatively not just to that day’s horrifying violence but also to the Islamists’ outrageous insistence on blaming the attacks on U.S. foreign policy and later to blaming violence on the election of Barack Obama, or their blatant denial that the perpetrators were Muslims or intense Muslim support for the attacks.

    American scholars, columnists, bloggers, media personalities, and activists became knowledgeable about Islam, developing into a community, a community that now feels like a movement. The Islamic center controversy represents its emergence as a political force, offering an angry, potent reaction inconceivable just a decade earlier.

    The energetic push-back of recent months finds me partially elated: those who reject Islamism and all its works now constitute a majority and are on the march. For the first time in fifteen years, I feel I may be on the winning team.

  124. For Will:

    http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/obama-spokesman-says-obama-ready-rule-day-1.html?q=blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/11/10/obama-spokesman-says-obama-ready-rule-day-1

    The co-chair of Barack Obama’s Transition Team, Valerie Jarrett, appeared on Meet the Press this weekend and used, shall we say, an interesting word to described what she thinks Barack Obama will be doing in January when he’s officially sworn into office. She told Tom Brokaw that Obama will be ready to “rule” on day one. It’s a word that reflects the worst fears that people have for Obama the “arrogant,” the “messiah,” that imagines he’s here to “rule” instead of govern.

    Jarret told Brokaw that “given the daunting challenges that we face, it’s important that president elect Obama is prepared to really take power and begin to rule day one.”

    Someone needs to get to Jarrett and inform her that American politicians are not Kings and do not “rule” from office. But if this is the attitude of Obama’s transition team, what does The One himself imagine he is about to unleash? Could the fears that Obama thinks he is being anointed America’s King be far off with this sort of talk flying about?

  125. bob strauss | September 9, 2010 at 9:08 pm |
    Free Speech | September 9, 2010 at 8:28 pm |

    http://www.sodahead.com/fun/al-taqiya-the-muslim-method-of-conquest/blog-231903/
    *************************************************************
    Right on! Unfortunately we have the number one, Muslim liar in the white house, lying about his eligibility, to qualify to be president.
    ============================================

    and lying about his ties to foreign and domestic terrorists, lying about his looting the US Treasury, lying about his aiding the Terrorist Invasion into AZ, lying about his poisoning of the Gulf etc…

    Americans must recognize bo for the Terrorist intent on Destroying America that he is.

  126. I wonder what Bill Gaither would say to the Gainsville people.

  127. hapnHal | September 9, 2010 at 7:39 pm | Free Speech 6:11pm………………..

    Rev. Jones: ” Don’t burn the Korans”
    Imam Rauf: “Don’t build the mosque at ground zero”

    Today…
    Rev. Jones: “I won’t burn the Korans”

    Imam Rauf: “I won’t build the mosque at ground zero”
    (with fingers crossed behind back)

  128. oldsalt79 | September 9, 2010 at 7:52 pm |
    Too bad that our AG only knows how to fight our states rather than the problem at hand. I personally think that our AG is also muslim.
    !!!!
    I checked…this is the first time our country ever sued itself!

  129. Free Speech | September 9, 2010 at 6:37 pm |

    http://www.ocala.com/article/20100909/ARTICLES/100909743/1412?Title=Westboro-Baptish-Church-to-burn-Qurans-if-Dove-doesn-t

    Westboro Baptist Church… has vowed to hold a Quran burning if Gainesville’s Dove World Outreach Center calls its off.

    “WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things,” the church announced in a news release this week.
    ***********************************
    Okay, now more truth emerges about this Quran burning. My feelings had been in the past that if the Florida church felt that this was the way to go (after prayer), then so be it. Now, however, the entrance of this Kansas Westboro Baptist and its rather nasty put-down of the other church reveals much. The Westboro group has apparently worked before with the Fl. church, so now we see a very unChristian attitude developing here.

    Then to top it off, the pastor of the Fl group has been snookered. He has to be very uninformed as to Muslim practices of double-crossing, etc. So now we have a situation that is worse than if the challenge hadn’t been publicly made about the burning. This is another feather in the cap of Imam Rauf and his supporters for the Mosque. Oh, me……. What a fine kettle of fish …(umm…….pork chops????)

    No matter how you slice it, it looks to me like the remembrance on the tenth anniversary of the worst attack on American soil is already being clouded by evil forces. Islam will consider this a win – win. THIS IS LOOKING VERY BAD.

  130. Free Speech @ 9:18 pm | How could anyone do contract law with some/all (?) of the Muslims-nationally, internationally, globally????

  131. oldsalt79 | September 9, 2010 at 8:21 pm | ARMY DAV…………………………..
    I used to think that there was something called a political RESUME. I guess the DNC never heard of that.
    !!!!
    I’m very curious with a passage I read that stated Biden seeking out the fraud in 2006 for presidential candidate……
    1)why Biden? wasn’t he a governor then?
    2)why Obama? wasn’t he a Illinois senator then??
    3)when was it said by the fraud to Keyes “I’m not running for presidency”..before 2006??
    4)who initiated this move by Biden? Soros?

  132. Question, If Rahm Emanuel is a jew, Obama is an Arab, and Valeri Jarret is Iranian, what are they doing being teamed up together in this administration?

    Someone must be lying about there roots.

  133. I think we should spend Sept 11, 2010 prayerfully remembering all the people who lost family members on that day, all those who were killed because of that day (our soldiers) and all of their families and friends and our fellow Americans, and our country. “In God we Trust” and God Bless America and please protect her from her enemies may they be foreign or domestic.
    http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/prayer/michael.htm
    Saint Michael the Archangel,
    defend us in battle.
    Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host –
    by the Divine Power of God –
    cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
    who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
    Amen.

  134. TAKE NOTICE OF THIS ONE
    I received this as an e-mail from someone very reliable. If this proves to be true, folks, we are in serious trouble:

    This is so sneaky it makes me furious!! What next??

    Passing on so all can ensure there Congressman and Senators do not back this proposal.

    SO; WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS ONE – “CHANGE JUST KEEPS COMING”

    Subj: 1% TRANSACTION TAX

    This was checked out on Truth or Fiction and it is true. The bill is HR-4646 introduced by US Rep Peter deFazio D-Oregon and US Senator Tom Harkin D-Iowa. It is now in committee and will probably not be brought out until after the Nov. elections.Suggest that you pass this along and also to your state senator and representative and US Congressman and Senators. Tom C

    One percent transaction tax is proposed
    President Obama’s finance team is recommending a transaction tax. His plan is to sneak it in after the November election to keep it under the radar. This is a 1% tax on all transactions at any financial institution i. e. Banks, Credit Unions, etc.. Any deposit you make, or move around within your account, i. e. transfer to, will have a 1% tax charged. If your pay check or your social Security or whatever is direct deposit, 1% tax charged. If you hand carry a check in to deposit, 1% tax charged, If you take cash in to deposit, 1% tax charged.This is from the man who promised that if you make under $250,000 per year, you will not see one penny of new tax. Keep your eyes and ears open, you will be amazed at what you learn.
    Some will say aw it’s just 1%… remember once the tax is there they can raise it at will.
    http://www.standard.net/node/44797

  135. bob strauss | September 9, 2010 at 9:37 pm |
    Question, If Rahm Emanuel is a jew, Obama is an Arab, and Valeri Jarret is Iranian, what are they doing being teamed up together in this administration?

    Someone must be lying about there roots.
    ***********************************
    Doesn’t their common interest in Marxist-Leninism tie them together?

  136. ATTN ALL HOG FARMERS THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY FLOODED…..SEND DEAD HOGS TO NY!!!!!Posted by A . Murphy, Mod on August 14, 2010 at 4:59pm in General, Uncategorized Town Hall

    I WONDER HOW TRUE THIS IS?
    An interesting angle in the wake of the decision to allow a mosque near ground zero in New York

    In Spain, Sevilla

    Some local people found a way to stop the construction of another mosque in their town ..
    They burried a Pig on the site, making sure this would be known by the local press..
    The Islamic rules forbiding to erect a Mosque on “Pig soiled ground” ..
    The moslems had to cancel the project ..this land was sold to them by government officials..
    No protests were needed by the local people … it worked !!!

  137. Cabby – AZ | September 9, 2010 at 9:31 pm |
    Free Speech | September 9, 2010 at 6:37 pm |

    http://www.ocala.com/article/20100909/ARTICLES/100909743/1412?Title=Westboro-Baptish-Church-to-burn-Qurans-if-Dove-doesn-t

    Westboro Baptist Church… has vowed to hold a Quran burning if Gainesville’s Dove World Outreach Center calls its off.

    “WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things,” the church announced in a news release this week.
    ***********************************
    Okay, now more truth emerges about this Quran burning. My feelings had been in the past that if the Florida church felt that this was the way to go (after prayer), then so be it. Now, however, the entrance of this Kansas Westboro Baptist and its rather nasty put-down of the other church reveals much. The Westboro group has apparently worked before with the Fl. church, so now we see a very unChristian attitude developing here.

    Then to top it off, the pastor of the Fl group has been snookered. He has to be very uninformed as to Muslim practices of double-crossing, etc. So now we have a situation that is worse than if the challenge hadn’t been publicly made about the burning. This is another feather in the cap of Imam Rauf and his supporters for the Mosque. Oh, me……. What a fine kettle of fish …(umm…….pork chops????)

    No matter how you slice it, it looks to me like the remembrance on the tenth anniversary of the worst attack on American soil is already being clouded by evil forces. Islam will consider this a win – win. THIS IS LOOKING VERY BAD.
    =========================================

    I agree. Rev Jones is very uninformed.

    I very suspicious of the Kansas man’s motivation.

  138. Free Speech 10:02 PM
    I agree. Rev Jones is very uninformed.

    I very suspicious of the Kansas man’s motivation.
    *************************
    Succinctly put!!

  139. FS…did you see the tie in on Rachel Maddow tonight talking about that Jones character with pics of Palin, Newt and Glenn in the background? As if Newt, Palin or Glenn were our leaders (they just don’t get it, there are no leaders in the Tea Party, it is us). The guy, Reverend Jones (what a name) is an obvious plant. They are working hard to caricaturize us. I’m sure that there will be many more before November.

  140. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 9:33 pm |
    Free Speech @ 9:18 pm | How could anyone do contract law with some/all (?) of the Muslims-nationally, internationally, globally????
    ==============================================

    If they didn’t have oil, no one would do business with the muslims.

    Think about that it terms of the future of the US economy with that muslim in the White House.

  141. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    A Coup

    Have any of you read jbjd’s 3-part essay on THE COUP?

    I have scanned most of it and read some parts. It is a tour-de-force of research and details. In fact a major reason I haven’t read it all is because it is so much. It is easy to get lost in the trees and hard to see the forest.

    This is no way a criticism. It is a testament to both the thoroughness of her work and the complexity of the subject. Neither do I have any way to independently verify – nor do I have personal knowledge – to disagree with any of it. So I take it on face value that everything is correct and true.

    Maybe if I read every word and re-read some of it, this answer would be clearer, but one thing troubles me about the whole mess. Let me start with a bit of a run up.

    I never believed that Zero was exactly groomed for the job. I always thought it was more of an opportunistic thing. Even his big speech – his debut to the world – seemed like merely a sop to the racist wing of the Democratic base. He never impressed me that much or seemed even remotely presidential. It seemed to be more like a gimmick – hey we are so inclusive that we even have a Kenyan, a real African, speak at the convention. You know, sort of like Kofi Anan as head of UN. An inside joke.

    When he started campaigning, I thought it was a just another gimmick. So did EVERYBODY I knew, Dem and Rep. When he started getting some traction, everybody was scratching their heads. Even up to a month or so before their convention, “everybody knew” that Hillary had it wrapped up, and besides, there was so much minkey business with Michigan and Florida, and super delegates, etc. that denying Hillary would have been a fiasco of the highest degree.

    It further seemed to me that it was only just before the convention that Hillary was PURPOSEFULLY toppled and Zero PURPOSEFULLY elevated. I thought it even surprised Hillary herself. I remember that it “smelled” so bad I could not believe there was not a big stink in the media, riots in the street, etc.

    But I still never believed he was groomed for the job. (Certainly, Hillary never appeared to think Zero was groomed for the jog.) I thought that “something” had happened at the last minute that had tipped things.

    But – be that as it may – here is my big question – – –

    Why did the Democratic Leadership want him as opposed to Hillary? Hillary would have been the safer choice. Hillary was believed to have better odds against McCain that Zero. Further, even excluding the BC stuff – which a lot of the key deciders must surely known about – he has soooo much baggage. It was clearly obvious to even a dolt that he was political poison. I don’t mean the masses that worshipped him – I mean what I have been calling the PTB. As evil as they are (e.g. Pelosi, Reid), they are not stupid. They HAD to have known that Zero was a huge risk. They HAD to have known there was a VERY BIG possibility he would not only fail – but actually blow up the Democratic party.

    Some posters here say the “DemoRats” are out of commission for good or at least a generation or two. I am not that extreme. But either way, he has basically set off a N U C L E A R B O M B inside the Democratic party. He has hurt them all very badly. These was very easily foreseeable – in fact, almost certain.

    So – BIG QUESTION – what were they thinking? What were they up to?

  142. JJ | September 9, 2010 at 9:48 pm |
    ATTN ALL HOG FARMERS THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY FLOODED…..SEND DEAD HOGS TO NY!!!!!Posted by A . Murphy, Mod on August 14, 2010 at 4:59pm in General, Uncategorized Town Hall
    ===============================================

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_black_jack_pershing.htm

    Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so “Black Jack” told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

  143. Paxson | September 9, 2010 at 10:11 pm |
    FS…did you see the tie in on Rachel Maddow tonight talking about that Jones character with pics of Palin, Newt and Glenn in the background? As if Newt, Palin or Glenn were our leaders (they just don’t get it, there are no leaders in the Tea Party, it is us). The guy, Reverend Jones (what a name) is an obvious plant. They are working hard to caricaturize us. I’m sure that there will be many more before November.
    ==========================================

    Yes, that is exactly what the boCohorts try to do set innocent people up.

  144. Did you see that Reverend Jones just happened to have graduated from the same highschool as Rush Limbaugh? Same year. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/09/you_cant_choose_your_high_scho.html

    Not into the conspiracy side of things on this one…but what a coincidence. If somebody were going to be used as a dupe, this Jones guy would be it. He’s probably just a fame seeker…but he isn’t doing our cause any good.

  145. This is all part of a disinformation dirty tricks campaign lodged by a very desparate Democratic party. They are working alongside the unions, NAACP, Black Panthers etc. They are scared and when they are scared, they revert back to the only think that they know.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/naacp-president-tea-party-leaders-use-racism-like-gas-on-flame/

  146. http://www.breitbart.tv/sister-of-911-victim-destroys-sanctimonious-ground-zero-mosque-proponent/
    This is what happens when the people in favor of the building of the ground zero mosque have to come face-to-face with the consequences of their position.

  147. Paxson | September 9, 2010 at 11:24 pm |

    Not into the conspiracy side of things on this one…but what a coincidence. If somebody were going to be used as a dupe, this Jones guy would be it. He’s probably just a fame seeker…but he isn’t doing our cause any good.
    ===========================================

    That’s for sure.

  148. http://www.breitbart.tv/911-fireman-strikes-back-at-gzm-imam/
    Tim Brown with a passionate response to Imam Rauf’s latest PR blitz on behalf of his proposed mosque at ground zero.

  149. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 11:42 pm |

    Thanks for that link Michelle. Now, I don’t know what that person’s politics are, but she represents my viewpoint on this particular issue way better than that Reverend Jones. He is the epitomy of what they are trying to stereotype us as being. He’s way too convenient, but I won’t let my mind wander into the conspiracy theories on this one. Just thinking aloud.

  150. Michelle | September 9, 2010 at 11:45 pm |

    Another person who represents much better than Reverend Jones. The left doesn’t like those people, so they keep them out of their coverage. Reverend Jones is much more useful to them.

  151. Paxson @ 11:52 for the people of New York and everyone who lost someone on that terrible day-Sept 11-this is a wound that will never go away. Never. To build anything on that site to me personally is wrong-it’s like the Arizona in Hawaii. Two days that will live in infamy. How anyone can try to politicize these people in any way shape or form is beyond me, and that is what they are doing in my opinion. Using and abusing innocent murder victims. Let the murder victims rest in peace and give their survivors some kind of peace, peace of mind-they must be all torn up emotionally again-reliving those terrible days again. Also people are forgetting that due to many unforeseen circumstances there should have been many more people in those buildings-trains were late, I forget all the details but the death toll would have been much higher. The Pentagon was hit, and due to valiant passengers on the 4 th plane there would have been many more murdered. This was an attack, on our country and many of our fellow Americans were murdered that day-I really don’t know where that Iman is coming from–I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him, very slippery tongued in my opinion. He does not care about the victims not one whit.

  152. Michelle,

    I’ve been thinking lately about the stunt that the Whitehouse pulled in the opening days of the administration when they flew AirForce One on the same flight path as the jets that hit the WTC. It was if it were some type of signal being sent to the world. Maybe not, but it sure was odd and I can’t get that vision out of my mind…

  153. I’m not a fan of book burning or any kind of ridiculous acts of violence or provocation… but think about the hypocrisy here… Where is Obama and the left?

    “Recently a controversial court ruling in Malaysia held that “Allah,” the Arabic word for God, was not the exclusive property of Muslims. A Christian monthly, the Herald, had decided it would use “Allah” to refer to God on the grounds that Christianity, Judaism and Islam were all Abrahamic faiths that worshipped the same deity in different ways. Tolerant Malaysian Muslims proceeded to fire-bomb Christian churches, as is done routinely in places such as Nigeria, Sudan and Indonesia.”

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=546667

    The Muslims of the world do nothing but burn down other people’s property. Then they whine and moan……. I’m not supporting the burning of the Q’uran, but Muslims have no sense of reality.

  154. Paxson @ 12:15 am | Odd you should mention the fly over-I read somewhere today it may have been Michelle Obama and some of her girlfriends. Can’t remember where I read it, not sure if true, not verified-yet.
    http://www.lucianne.com/
    Poll: Voters favor GOP
    for less-known races
    Detroit News, by Karen Bouffard
    Posted By: loosbolt- 9/9/2010 11:26:45
    Votes appear to favor Republican over Democrats in less-known statewide races such as secretary of state and attorney general, according to a Detroit News/Local 4 WDIV poll released Thursday. (snip) The 600 likely voters interviewed Tuesday and Wednesday by Glengariff Group Inc. favored Republicans over Democrats even in races with low name recognition for the candidates — meaning the GOP may be the favored party this November, reflecting a nationwide trend.

  155. Michelle,

    Yeah, I’ve been thinking about that utterly stupid (or provacative) stunt that they pulled for some reason lately.

    Remember when it was reported that a Egyptian Foreign Minister claimed that Obama secretly told him that he was Muslim and that when he got his domestic priorities handled he was going to take care of the Israeli situation? http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

    Did you see this? What do they know that we don’t know?
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=201385

  156. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 9, 2010 at 10:15 pm |
    A Coup
    ********************************
    Pondering your essay, I share your perplexities as to what was truly behind the switch to Obama; however, it was apparent to me that the jinx was up when the Kennedys threw their support behind Obama. Early in the campaign – in 2007 – I was suspicious that Obama was making great inroads.

    In fact, he was becoming a rising star when he was the keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention in 2004, and everyone was going crazy over him. What a charmer! What a gifted orator! He is a big charlatan and knows how to deceive, that’s for sure.

    As for what reason the Dems decided to pursue him, I think it is nearly impossible to get into the minds of liars, cheats, and crooks – This is a blunt statement, but that is what many in the Democratic Party have become. (Its into Repubs, too, but not quite to that extent.) When the TPTB such as Pelosi and Reid began their wild journey last year in completely ignoring normal civil behavior with their crooked deals, lying and conniving ways, we could see them in their true colors. I do believe that there was outside influence from the likes of George Soros, because of the evident financial help he gave and the statements he made, but somehow I can’t get my arms around the wholesale conspiracy theories that many embrace. That’s just me.

    Those who carry the conspiracy idea to the ultimate, I personally feel don’t understand human nature very well or the nature of evil. Just because there have been many forces all appearing to work together for the downfall of the world, doesn’t mean that they have been able to accomplish everything they want. Huge forces behind the scenes, no doubt, throughout history have had power to influence the starting of wars, and other international events; however, the selfish nature of individuals in such cabals, work to restrain the goals of the group itself.

    The nature of evil is such that spiritual forces working in individual wicked people can create a certain semblance of unity and conspiracy. A thorough understanding of that concept helps to clarify the situation we are now experiencing. In other words, it is rather futile to try to explain current events if we always resort to the concept that everything is caused by
    human forces.

  157. While the MSM media is busy working hard to caricaturize has a group of racists, they refuse to report this little tidbit of news…

    “…..Even more surprising, Mr. Scott’s platform is a repudiation of Barack Obama’s agenda. He promises to support a repeal of the health-care law, simplify the tax code, and cut federal spending. Overall, the GOP has fielded more than 30 African-American candidates for federal office, including Ryan Frazier in Colorado’s Seventh Congressional District and Vernon Parker in Arizona’s Third Congressional District.”
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100903/cm_csm/323705_1

    Being ambivalent about race, meaning a person’s race doesn’t matter, does not make one a racist. Once African Americans and other minority groups figure out that the Democratic party is only out to exploit them, the Democrats will be finished. This election cycle is going to get very ugly with the racist smears. It’s all that they got.

  158. Paxson | September 10, 2010 at 1:20 am |
    Once African Americans and other minority groups figure out that the Democratic party is only out to exploit them, the Democrats will be finished. This election cycle is going to get very ugly with the racist smears. It’s all that they got.
    ****************************
    You are right on!

  159. “STEALTH JIHAD: HOW RADICAL ISLAM IS SUBVERTING AMERICA WITHOUT GUNS OR BOMBS”

    By Robert Spencer

    http://superstore.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2558&RELATED_ITEM_ID=2307

    “Most terrorism experts agree: it is not “if” we are attacked again, but “when.” Yet the assault has already happened. A silent battle is being waged on our nation everyday. Not with guns and bombs, but via covert sources: Islamic charities, the ACLU–even presidential candidates. They are all pawns in a stealth holy war. Unwittingly advancing the jihadist agenda not by violence, but through endeavors designed to acclimate and subject us to Islamic law–just the way Osama bin Laden wants it. In Stealth Jihad, bestselling author Robert Spencer exposes how a silent but lethal movement is advancing on the U.S. and calls upon Americans to resist it–before it’s too late.

    Does America face a jihadist threat that’s even bigger than terrorism? While our homeland security efforts are focused on preventing terrorist attacks, another jihadist threat is growing right here in America–in plain sight.

    In “Stealth Jihad,” Islam expert and New York Times bestselling author Robert Spencer blows the whistle on a long-term plot by Islamic jihadists to undermine the United States. This effort aims not to bring America to its knees through attacks with guns or bombs, but to subvert the country from within–by gradually Islamizing America. The ultimate goal, the stealth jihadists themselves declare, is nothing less than the adoption of Islamic law in the United States.

    Describing the disturbing ease with which stealth jihadists have already become ensconced in the American political and media landscapes, Spencer exposes the full modus operandi of the movement as revealed in a stunning document unveiled in a recent terrorism funding trial. In this unsettling book, he explains:

    * Which Islamic fundamentalist organization is behind the stealth jihad
    * How stealth jihadists have reinvented themselves as mainstream civil rights activists–despite their many past declarations of Islamic supremacism
    * How stealth jihadists played a key role in formulating U.S. government guidelines for the War on Terror
    * How insistence on “accommodating” Islamic cultural and religious practices in America is part of a calculated strategy to achieve a dangerous larger agenda
    * The effort by stealth jihadists to whitewash the teaching of Islam in schools
    * What can be done to defeat the stealth jihad and preserve America’s liberty

    America, Spencer demonstrates, is all but oblivious to a new kind of threat presented by a loosely organized movement whose activists are well funded, highly motivated, and relentless in pursuit of their agenda. This book is a wake-up call for a country so focused on foreign threats that it has left itself vulnerable to a growing danger much closer to home.”

    FOR MORE INFORMATION:

    http://superstore.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2558&RELATED_ITEM_ID=2307

  160. Cabby – AZ September 9, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Subj: 1% TRANSACTION TAX

    This was checked out on Truth or Fiction and it is true. The bill is HR-4646 introduced by US Rep Peter deFazio D-Oregon and US Senator Tom Harkin D-Iowa. It is now in committee and will probably not be brought out until after the Nov. elections.Suggest that you pass this along and also to your state senator and representative and US Congressman and Senators. Tom C
    —————————————

    What Liberals Say vs What they Mean

    in an Orwellian effort to name bills with nice sounding monikers they’ve chosen names that really say the exact opposite of what the bill will do. This is meant to fool people into supporting the bills. There’s the “Employee Free Choice Act,” a bill that actually takes away worker’s choice, the “Uniting American Families Act” that doesn’t unite American families but brings foreign spouses into the U.S., and then there’s the “Freedom of Choice Act” which apparently makes it harder for a woman, not to mention her fetus, to chose life. These bills have names that mislead but are an excellent example of warping language.

    For a long time when trying to gain converts liberals have commonly used words that actually say the precise opposite of what they, the liberals, mean with their actual policies. It all just shows that it is no mistake that the first four letters of “liberal” contains the letters L,I, and E.
    http://tinyurl.com/2aojqk9

  161. Whores, Sluts, and World Cowards

    Maybe it’s insulting? Maybe it’s disrespectful? Maybe it is just a plain stupid thing to do; but threatening to burn the holy book of Islam, the Quran (Koran) truly doesn’t justify the reaction it got. Every one from General Petreus, Hillary Clinton to Oblablama came forward to bed Pastor Jones to not burn those 200 Korans. Even Colin Powel crawled our from under his secret rock to make comments against it and support the GZ mosque. Ha!

    What bothers me is not the pastor’s book burning which is not in the best taste. What bothers me is that the entire world is capitulating to Muslim intimidation. I must ask. Who is running the world, today? Muslims or the countries they are attempting to Islamize.

    Since when in the name–at best–of protecting political correctness—BEING SENSITIVE TO NOT OFFEND MUSLIMS–do we give into bullies, threats, and intimidators? Every time we do so, we trade our sovereignty for their increased intimidation. One day we will be their slaves. Or we so weak and fearful that we can no longer stare bullies in the face and back them down? Do we have to live in fear of every thing we say and do that might offend the Muslims and therefore we no longer have freedom of expression while the Muslims dictate what we can say, do, dress, eat, read, think, write or cartoon?

    If America and the rest of the Western countries don’t start backing these hostile, ignorant people down, there won’t be a free world left on the planet. Instead of every one coming forward and pleading with Terry Jones to refrain from burning the Koran, they should have said this:
    “We don’t agree or support Pastor Jone’s plan to burn the Quran on 9/11/2010. Nevertheless in America, it is his right to do so. If one American is harmed in any way, shape or form by some irate Muslim any where on this planet in retaliation of Pastor Jone’s action, we will find, arrest, try, and find you guilty and punish you for the rest of your life. It makes no difference if it is only one of your or ten thousand. We are no longer TOLERANCE OF YOUR INTOLERANCE.”

    From now on my battle cry is: “Let’s offend the Muslims. Let’s rock the boat.”

  162. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com | September 10, 2010 at 7:26 am |

    What bothers me is not the pastor’s book burning which is not in the best taste. What bothers me is that the entire world is capitulating to Muslim intimidation.

    =====================================

    EXACTLY – SPOT ON!

    I matters not to me one way or another what this pastor does. But our leaders’ reactions to him matter a great deal. The “signals” and “messages” that sends to our Islamic enemies is mind boggling. They have few sophisticated weapons. Their main weapon is intimidation. Capitulation to their intimidation is surrender and SUBMISSION.

  163. Citizen Carlyle,

    I have given your question a lot of thought. Let’s think outside the box again. Who says the Democrats put Obama in?

    1. Hillary had the better chance of winning over McCain, at the time.
    2. A Wayne Madsen Report dated August 8th, 2008 details Karl Roves mission to obtain the BC and passport info on o. Complete with the sound conclusion that Rove has knowledge (perhaps even holds) a British BC for o.
    3. Who had access to all CIA files, which we now believe o and his familiy to have been working for?
    4. Who ommitted the call for objections on the floor during the qualification of o?
    5. How many of the Bush policies are still in place, despite o campaigning against them? Gitmo? Rendition? Iraq war continues….
    6. How many of Bush appointees are still in place? Gates? Petraeus?
    7. Didn’t it feel like McCain was almost throwing the race? Why did he insist so much, against the will of others, to bring up Wright and Ayers? Chicago’s slumlord? Why was Sinclair dropped like a hot potato? O’s record on the infant born alive act never touched? MO’s questionable hospital job? The list goes on and on of substantial issues that McCain and the republicans refused to debate. Hell, o’s affiliation with the Socialist Party? McCain wouldn’t even use the word socialist…no one could during the campaign. Are these the actions of a man who had his last shot at being president? Does the excuse “a clean campaign,” “a nice guy” hold water? He apparently was more concerned about hurting o’s feelings than his role in the public deception. What a “war hero” surrendering to o at the detrement of his country.
    8. Who appears hell bent on destroying the democrat party? Who seems to wake up each morning and ask…”How could I make my poll numbers worse today?”
    9. Doesn’t it appear that o “protest too much” with his blaming Bush? Is he trying to convince me of something like the child who has chocolate on his face and fingers , yet, insists he did not touch the cake?
    10. Is the governor of HI not republican? Is the Supreme Court not heavy on “conservatives?” Who swore in BO anyway?”

    My conclusion is a question… Who is running this country while the dems self destruct? To whose advantage is Obama over Hillary?

  164. I need to add… after her debut at the convention, when the concervatives fell in love with Palin…why was she put in a box?

  165. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Prairie | September 10, 2010 at 10:03 am |

    ====================================

    Thank you SO much for a Thinker’s response. I have remarked on your brilliance several times in the last several days. I must so again.

    Although we’ve had some arguments, I remember them being only in regards Jews/Zionists. In that regard – to me – you have seemed to go all weirdy squishy. It must be that I get irritated with you more than I should because you seem so thoughtful and and an open-minded true seeker elsewhise. Not to belabor a sore spot – but if FS were saying saying things against Jews I wouldn’t even bother to respond to him because he is a hopeless quack anyway. But you are SO CLOSE to perfect! LOL

    But – to the point – EVERYTHING you say is spot on. Why Why Why? I know of no even approximately good answers to your questions. But, at least some of them may very well be pointing to the crux of the matter.

    But even so – after absorbing all your questions and thoughts – let’s go back to mine. If “they” were manipulating or forcing the situation how can it be that Pelos, Reid, and Kennedy, at least, didn’t see it coming? For whatever evils, none of them are stupid or lack political awareness.

    And why was Hillary out of the loop? She is, or should have been at that time, the center of the party. Yet she seemed totally blindsided. Besides, whoever wanted her gone could have done so much earlier without risking exploding the D convention.

    Even if they did not initially realize the magnitude of it, they must surely know now. Why isn’t there more activity to at least marginalize the Muslim in Chief? Every day that goes by gets worse for Democrats. This is not something they can ride out and hope it gets better. The sooner they drive a stake through the heart of the situation, the better. Clock’s ticking.

    Finally, this kind of discussion seems to me to be the best service we the unofficial people (i.e. not PTBs) can do. Wild speculation and ranting and railing just seems to waste time and spin wheels. And since we are not PTBs, by definition we do not have access to the levers of power. But if those of us who are capable of thinking and asking probing questions could carry on like this – and positively feed off each other – then maybe we could ferret out some answers and arrive at some practical plans of action.

    But that’s just me – I kinda like to think and plan before acting – – –

  166. @Prairie

    Here’s another clue for you:

    Carlyle Group.

  167. Michelle wrote:
    Marty is it possible they went into Midway?

    I believe my post addresses connecting more importantly with International Airlines than specific airports for old Manifest lists. It’s a known fact the information exists however realizng we’re in the midst of a White House Coup with Obama being their main Puppet explains any issues trying to surface information will be focused on by Corruption power. As for me, I’ve known since the early 90’s that Obama isn’t a US Citizen from Bruce Adreani who hired him while working as a lawyer to setup their drug smuggling distribution business in Florida. What’s important to acccept is that more than enough information exists but surfacing anything will run into consistent blocks trying to keep it from surfacing. Eventually as there are many other situations in the works, what information is necessary to provide success with the Birth Certificate question will succeed. As I said the problem has been in dealing with the ongoing blocks and coverups.

    Marty Didier
    Northbrook, IL

  168. AHA! WE CAUGHT THE TAQIYA KING RAUF WITH HIS PANTS DOWN!

    ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ Imam Says Project Must Go Forward in the Interest of National Security
    Feisal Abdul Rauf Wishes He Could Turn Back, but Says That Would Let ‘Radicals’ Win

    By MICHAEL S. JAMES and LARA SETRAKIAN
    Sept. 9, 2010
    “A Muslim imam behind a proposed cultural center two blocks from New York’s Ground Zero said he must build there despite angry protests in order to defend America and its citizens against a “danger from the radicals in the Muslim world to our national security.”
    ____________
    The greatest reason of all to forbid this GZ Mosque, aka Park 51 in the allegedly “moderate” Imam’s own words;
    “If America doesn’t permit this mosque to be built it may become under attack of the radical Arab world.”That is quite a threat considering 95% of Muslims are RADICAL!

    Me thinks his soft spoken voice with his violent threats revealed his thin veil of disguise as a “moderate”. This guy is a flaming radical jihadist Muslim who is attempting to intimidate America to force us to accept this head quarters for Hamas, Hezbella and all other jihadists from which to spring their Muslim pursuits of forcing Sharia law, Muslim domination.
    “If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse,” Rauf told CNN. “The headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack.
    _________________
    “There is a certain anger here [in America], no doubt,” he said later in the interview. “But if we don’t do this right, anger will explode in the Muslim world. If we don’t do things correctly, this crisis could become much bigger than the Danish cartoon crisis [over images depicting the Prophet Mohammed], which resulted in attacks on Danish embassies in various parts of the Muslim world. And we have a much bigger footprint in the Muslim world.”
    ___________________

    As Patton yelled at Rommel; “I read your book, Rommel.” Well we read your pedophile promoting, abuse of women, murderous demands upon infidels, limb cutting practices for petty infractions of your ridicules Sharia laws as so derived from the most hateful book in the name of Allah ever written your unholy koran. RAUF. Prepare to lose. The beginning of the end has come! We Judeo/Christians are no longer going to remain silent in the face of your violence against us!

  169. Why did the Democratic Leadership want him as opposed to Hillary? Hillary would have been the safer choice. Hillary was believed to have better odds against McCain that Zero. Further, even excluding the BC stuff – which a lot of the key deciders must surely known about – he has soooo much baggage. It was clearly obvious to even a dolt that he was political poison. I don’t mean the masses that worshipped him – I mean what I have been calling the PTB. As evil as they are (e.g. Pelosi, Reid), they are not stupid. They HAD to have known that Zero was a huge risk. They HAD to have known there was a VERY BIG possibility he would not only fail – but actually blow up the Democratic party.

    (if anyone answers these questions???n they have to be shot!~!)

  170. From now on my battle cry is: “Let’s offend the Muslims. Let’s rock the boat.”

    BRING ON THE KORANS!!!
    WHEN CATHOLIC CHURCHES ARE BURNED IN AFGHANISTAN AND NOT MAKE FRONT PAGE NEWS???
    FAIR IS FAIR…

  171. CC and Prairie…
    (Cheney, Bush, etc.)the elites are billionaires, so what’s one more billion…is it the power of owning the world that drives them??
    destroying the democratic party can’t own the world..but it’s a start.
    The elites fear no God, but if there is no God, mustn’t they also believe in no Devil??

  172. natural born citizen party

    apparently judge leon just recused himself — an Obama appointee has been assigned the FOIA case.

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