Blagojevich retrial, Rezko and Levine must be witnesses, Leonard Cavise, DePaul University law professor, Evidentiary Proffer

Blagojevich retrial, Rezko and Levine must be witnesses, Leonard Cavise, DePaul University law professor, Evidentiary Proffer

It was clear to experts and novices alike that Tony Rezko and/or Stuart Levine had to be called as witnesses in the Rod Blagojevich trial. Tony Rezko’s name was mentioned approx. 288 times in the Evidentiary Proffer. When Judge James Zagel stated that Rezko was a bad witness, our collective jaws dropped. Stuart Levine, the key witness in the Rezko trial was not only enmeshed in corruption, he was a long time drug user.

From Citizen Wells July 29, 2010

“If I were a Blago juror …”

“If I were a juror, I’d wonder why we never heard from so many of the allegedly bad guys — Tony Rezko, Stuart Levine — mentioned by the prosecution.”
“As noted in part 5 of this series, Tony Rezko’s name was mentioned approximately 288 times in the Evidentiary Proffer. The above numbers reveal that of the evidence presented in the Proffer, 38 pages are loaded with names and corruption activities tied to Blagojevich from 2002 to mid 2008. And yet neither Tony Rezko or Stuart Levine were called as witnesses. And just as predicted and warned about here, the focus of the trial was the selling of Obama’s senate seat.”

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An expert on law has commented on Rezko and Levine being called as witnesses. Leonard Cavise is a DePaul University law professor. From the DePaul website.


Professor Cavise has a long background in litigation , both criminal and civil, including substantial pro bono litigation. In addition, he has worked in international human rights for many years, including lectures and training sessions in El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico, Venzuela, Italy, France and other locations throughout the world. Several projects were designed to train Latin American human rights lawyers in the art of trial advocacy. In 1999, he founded the Chiapas Human Rights Practicum and has taken law students to work in human rights offices in Chiapas every year since then. He was the Director of DePaul’s Lawyering Skills Program from 1983 until 1990.”

From the Chicago tribune, Cavise’s comments.

“A day later, all that was clear was that Blagojevich would have another day in court. What was less certain was what changes could be made to the prosecution case next time around, who would represent the governor at his retrial and how that defense would be paid for.

Experts differed on what the government might do as it makes another attempt at proving Blagojevich tried to leverage the powers of his office — including the appointment of a U.S. senator to fill the seat once held by President Barack Obama — to enrich himself and his campaign fund.
Some predicted that prosecutors would just slightly adjust their case or possibly leave it the same, while others suggested the next go-round could be much more drawn out.

Former federal prosecutor Dean Polales said he thinks the pr
osecution’s case will only be tweaked, especially since jurors reported an 11-1 split in favor of conviction on many of the major counts in the indictment.
“You’ve got an outlier juror,” Polales said. “That’s hard (for the defense) to duplicate in a future trial.”

But Leonard Cavise, a DePaul University professor, suggested the government will need to do more at the retrial, possibly leading to a longer presentation of evidence. He said he believes the government may try to avoid another deadlocked jury by using fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko and political fixer Stuart Levine as witnesses.

Both men have agreed to cooperate, but prosecutors chose not to call them this summer in part because of the baggage both bring.
“If the prosecution insists on going forward, I have two words for them: Rezko and Levine,” Cavise said. “They know where all the bodies are buried.””

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112 responses to “Blagojevich retrial, Rezko and Levine must be witnesses, Leonard Cavise, DePaul University law professor, Evidentiary Proffer

  1. Many are wondering what Patrick Fitzgerald’s agenda is now. Perhaps if more experts like law professor Leonard Cavise speak out, Fitzgerald & the Justice Dept. will have no choice but to execute a complete prosecution of Blagojevich. The world is watching.

  2. You can retry BLAGO everyday of the week, and as long as the same people conduct the trial the outcome will be the same. All that will happen is it will become a black hole sucking in money from all directions, and NOTHING constructive happening. Until somebody like Free Speech pays a visit to LISA MADIGAN, and shows her the error of her ways,nothing will happen in Springfield either. Go get em BUD it appears that you are our only hope. I am a FOLLOWER,NOT A LEADER.. A LEADER SEES the correct path to follow. The rest of us can only WALK the blazoned trail. Whatever happens must begin in Springfield,ILL., even that which concerns Soetoro.

  3. From our friend in the UK, Ian R Thorpe,
    in the previous thread.

    “it is always the case with the left Citizen Wells that the end justifies the means. And the end is always the advancing of a totalitarian agenda.

    But why am I telling you, you’ve read Orwell.”

  4. Good morning CW….About an hour ago I tried to open Citizen WElls website and all I got was a “forbidden” ….does anyone know what thats about?

  5. RMinNC.
    Are you at work or a public site?

  6. CW for what ever it is worth I have been in and out all morning, and there has been no problems. Perhaps They are trying to enter from a strange site.

  7. Thanks oldsalt.

  8. Philo-Publius

    Blagojevich and Legal Bribery

    Yet the unwillingness of one or more jurors to convict Mr. Blagojevich of anything but bare-faced lying makes some sense. I suspect the jury’s indecision might have been a reaction at some level to the hypocritical mess our campaign financing system has become, especially in light of recent Supreme Court jurisprudence about political donations.

    OP defends the verdict.

  9. citizenwells | August 19, 2010 at 10:25 am |
    Many are wondering what Patrick Fitzgerald’s agenda is now. Perhaps if more experts like law professor Leonard Cavise speak out, Fitzgerald & the Justice Dept. will have no choice but to execute a complete prosecution of Blagojevich. The world is watching.
    I don’t have much hope for fitzgerald. his mo of protecting bo is obvious. Legitimate prosecutions will have to be by State Grand Jury indictments and State court prosecution.

  10. BREAKING VIDEO: Rudy Giuliani Finally Speaks Out About Ground Zero Mosque

  11. Very likely that Blago will merely be given a light sentence on the charge he was convicted on. A new trial will be discussed but will never happen, another trial would put Obama, his cabinet, the Justice department and the Judge under the spotlight for tampering with a federal case. Sad but no Politician or Lawyer has the Balls to get involved and stop the total destruction of the Legal System of the United States. This was the biggest NO TRIAL in history.

  12. I think they are worried about the growing numbers… Could it be they got the idea Obama is Muslim since Obama said so himself-might be the only truth he ever uttered.

    Obama: “My Muslim Faith”
    Growing Number of Americans Falsely Believe President Obama is Muslim
    A new poll from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life indicates that the number of Americans who erroneously believe President Obama is a Muslim is growing.
    In March 2009, the percentage was 11 percent. Today, it’s 18 percent.
    The percentage of those asserting that the president is a Christian — which he is — has gone down in that time, from 48% in March 2009 to 34% today.
    A plurality of Americans — 43% — say they don’t know what religion the president is.
    A new poll from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life indicates that the number of Americans who erroneously believe President Obama is a Muslim is growing.

  13. “The New York Times just ran a piece where they attempt to cover for Obama on his social security number problem. The piece is regarding misperceptions about Obama and his past. The NYT mentioned the recent Globe report on Obama’s SS# and quickly planted lips on Obama’s arse. The NYT reports the Globe story as if it was new news when in fact the “proof” was there long before Globe ran the piece.

    Obama and his handlers must be getting very nervous that the truth is getting out even though there is a complete media blackout on Obama’s past.?”
    New York Times:

    “In Defining Obama, Misperceptions Stick
    Published: August 18, 2010”

    “WASHINGTON — Americans need only stand in line at the grocery checkout counter to glimpse the conspiracy theories percolating about President Obama. “Birthplace Cover-Up,” screams the current issue of the racy tabloid Globe. “Obama’s Secret Life Exposed!””

  14. Obama pretending to be a “committed” Christian?? then why is he so afraid of a crucifix??? or is he afraid of Rabbi Jesus?
    During the campaign, Mr. Obama’s “Fight the Smears” website wrote: “Barack Obama is a committed Christian. He was sworn into the Senate on his family Bible. He has regularly attended church with his wife and daughters for years. But shameful, shadowy attackers have been lying about Barack’s religion, claiming he is a Muslim instead of a committed Christian. When people fabricate stories about someone’s faith to denigrate them politically, that’s an attack on people of all faiths. Make sure everyone you know is aware of this deception.”
    Georgetown University Hid Religious Symbols at White House Request
    Published April 16, 2009
    Georgetown University hid a religious inscription representing the name of Jesus during President Obama’s address there Tuesday, has confirmed, because White House staff asked the school to cover up all religious symbols and signs while the president was on stage.

  15. Joy | August 19, 2010 at 11:32 am |
    Very likely that Blago will merely be given a light sentence on the charge he was convicted on. A new trial will be discussed but will never happen, another trial would put Obama, his cabinet, the Justice department and the Judge under the spotlight for tampering with a federal case. Sad but no Politician or Lawyer has the Balls to get involved and stop the total destruction of the Legal System of the United States. This was the biggest NO TRIAL in history.

    The only thing that makes sense is that the blago case was rigged from day one to get a conviction on one or two minor counts. Why else would the lone juror only hang the jury on one count. If she had reasonable doubt about all the other charges and thought blago’s acts were just politics as usual why vote to convict him on the lying to FBI charge which was one of the weakest of all the charges and it does not involve bo in any way.

    This one count conviction has all the earmarks of coercion of blago to plead guilty for a light sentence which will shut him up like rezko but not involve bo in the scandal any further.

  16. Sorry for OT, but the cable networks are going nuts about the 20% of Americans who believe Obama is a Muslim. I wonder why?

    “I am a Muslim”

  17. jbjd’s “A COUP, THROUGH and THROUGH (2 of 3)” has been cross-posted at NoQuarter.

  18. Wow, SHERYL GAY STOLBERG. The report by the racy Globe contains more facts and reflects more integrity than does your fatuous fabrication.

    I believe you reap due and just consequences for so irresponsibly misleading the citizens of our wonderful country.

    P.S. WHY you be lyin’ to the peeps? You a fake, too?

  19. Steve Cooper had a good interview with Lucas Smith. That birth record he got is the real deal. He needs help with spreading the word.


    Of course, that Osama bin Laden—slayer of 3,000 Americans and avowed enemy to the rest—exhibits two faces, one to Americans another to Muslims, is not surprising. Yet the reader may well be surprised to discover that the controversial Cordoba Initiative, which plans on manifesting itself as the largest American mosque, situated atop Ground Zero—that is, atop the carnage caused by none other than bin Laden—also has two faces, conveying one thing to Americans, quite another to Muslims.

    The very name of the initiative itself, “Cordoba,” offers different connotations to different people: In the West, the Andalusian city of Cordoba is regularly touted as the model of medieval Muslim progressiveness and tolerance for Christians and Jews. To many Americans, then, the choice to name the mosque “Cordoba” is suggestive of rapprochement and interfaith dialogue; atop the rubble of 9/11, it implies “healing”—a new beginning between Muslims and Americans. The Cordoba Initiative’s mission statement certainly suggests as much:

    Cordoba Initiative aims to achieve a tipping point in Muslim-West relations within the next decade, bringing back the atmosphere of interfaith tolerance and respect that we have longed for since Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together in harmony and prosperity eight hundred years ago.

    Oddly enough, the so-called “tolerant” era of Cordoba supposedly occurred during the caliphate of ‘Abd al-Rahman III (912-961)—well over a thousand years ago. “Eight hundred years ago,” i.e., around 1200, the fanatical Almohids—ideological predecessors of al-Qaeda—were ravaging Cordoba, where “Christians and Jews were given the choice of conversion, exile, or death.”

  21. Very likely that Blago will merely be given a light sentence on the charge he was convicted on. A new trial will be discussed but will never happen, another trial would put Obama, his cabinet, the Justice department and the Judge under the spotlight for tampering with a federal case. Sad but no Politician or Lawyer has the Balls to get involved and stop the total destruction of the Legal System of the United States. This was the biggest NO TRIAL in history

    I agree, and haven’t a few prominent lawyers to date been made examples of by the very system here to protect us??
    Ironic, huh??

  22. When will someone go to the congressional archieves (with a camera) and educate the citizens as to the defining fact…Natural born citizens are those born in a country to citizen parents???? hello anyone home??

  23. The Wasteful Spending Must Stop

  24. Bill Cutting

    From the NYT, 2008
    “But it is a mistake to conflate his African identity with his Muslim heritage. Senator Obama is half African by birth and Africans can understandably identify with him. In Islam, however, there is no such thing as a half-Muslim. Like all monotheistic religions, Islam is an exclusive faith. ”

    “As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant. ”

    They forgot to mention Obama was born a British Subject ,and can be detained at any time in the UK if they see fit.


    ” Judge Zagel is probably going to be forced to allow enough of a Blago defense to sink the prosecution case. Based on the evidence admitted at trial, I believe President Obama is a proper defense witness. Zagel is engaged in a political protection racket by trying to protect Obama from testifying.”

  26. Ground Zero Mosque Developers Refuse to Rule Out Using Funds From Iran and Ahmadinejad–Zero–Mosque–Ahmadinejad/2010/08/19/id/367908?s=al&promo_code=A893-1


    ” Judge James Zagel denies a defense request to gain access to the FBI report summarizing then President-Elect Obama’s 2008 interview with federal investigators.

    Defense lawyers argued in a filing last week that the government minimized Obama’s knowledge of the then-Governor’s attempts to horsetrade for the Senate seat appointment. They said that testimony by government witness John Harris contradicted that portrayal by federal prosecutors.

    Harris testified last week that Blagojevich believed Obama knew about Blagojevich’s request for a presidential cabinet appointment in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the Senate seat.

    Zagel said there was nothing relevant concerning Harris’s testimony that would allow the defense access to Obama’s interview.

    “There’s just nothing there,” Zagel said.

    In their filing last week, defense lawyers argued that it was the government’s own witnesses and evidence who raised the issue of Obama’s knowledge of the Senate seat dealings.

    “Testimony elicited by the government from John Harris and wiretaps played in court raise the issue of President Obama’s direct knowledge and communication with emissaries and others regarding the appointment to his senate seat,” lawyers wrote in the filing.”

  28. Philo-Publius

    Saudi Judge Considers Paralysis Punishment

    CAIRO – A Saudi judge has asked several hospitals in the country whether they could damage a man’s spinal cord as punishment after he was convicted of attacking another man with a cleaver and paralyzing him, the brother of the victim said Thursday.

  29. Philo-Publius

    Obama Bans Gun Sales

    The U.S. government is opposing Korea’s bid to sell thousands of aging U.S. combat rifles to American gun collectors.

  30. Philo-Publius

    OT but….

    Clemens Indicted for Perjury in Doping Testimony

    Federal authorities have indicted Roger Clemens on charges of making false statements to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs.

    Don’t they know the 9th Circuit just ruled lying and false statements are now protected rights (Free Speech). The Rocket should be able to beat this wrap by citing courts opinion.

  31. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Cabby – AZ | August 19, 2010 at 11:49 am |

    That is what makes me so ANGRY! To think of all of our boys who have given their all for our country and then this conniving, lying usurper comes along, knows nothing really about us, is not one of us, in fact, has absolute disdain for us, and immediately begins to dismantle our nation!!!

    My prayer is that for the sake of those who have died, may God undertake for us and give us the strength, courage, and wisdom to get back to where we should be.


    Dear one – you make me weep. This is exactly the point.

    Go to Arlington or any other large military cemetery. Stand there and look over the fields of the dead, and their spirit, and their lives, and what they gave to preserve the American Ideal. This is not it. This is not what they died for. Those who do not immediately weep and fall to their knees – such should never be high elected officials.

    They gave their all. For what? FOR EFFING WHAT? Comunism? Islam? Pay to Play? Rampant atheism? Degenerate morals? Corrupt judges? Ridicule of the constitution (“are you serious?”) Fraud, con, usurper?

  32. Philo-Publius

    The Summer of Recovery continues in Obama Hooverville…

    The federal budget deficit will surpass $1.3 trillion in 2010 and is expected to be the second largest shortfall in the past 65 years, the Congressional Budget Office estimated Thursday.

  33. Philo-Publius

    When ‘Blame Bush’ Fails, What Do Democrats Do?

    A prominent Democratic pollster is circulating a survey that shows George W. Bush is 6 points more popular than President Obama in “Frontline” districts — seats held by Democrats that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee sees as most vulnerable to Republican takeover. That Bush is more popular than Obama in Democratic-held seats is cause for outright fear.


    Federal prosecutors’ decision to “protect” Obama administration officials by not calling them to testify against former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is “absolutely” responsible for the prosecution’s stunning failure to get convictions on 23 of 24 counts, a Fox News legal analyst who closely followed the trial tells Newsmax.

    “I think that this is a very interesting issue, because I think that [White House Chief of Staff Rahm] Emanuel was not called [to testify], Axelrod, whomever else, Obama himself, in an effort to protect the administration,” Holder says. “You know once you open the door and you put these guys on the stand, well, the cat’s out of the bag and you open them to cross-examination and whatnot.”

    According to Holder’s sources, the case had a witness list of between 600 and 800 people, including several top Obama officials such as White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, White House adviser David Axelrod, and White House adviser Valerie Jarrett.

    Prosecutors only called 35 witnesses during the trial, however. None were from the administration.

    “I think the Obama administration really escaped a lot of scrutiny because Emanuel wasn’t called. A few union reps [testified]. Other than that, nothing was revealed,” Holder says.

    Asked if she believed not calling the administration officials hurt the prosecution’s case, Holder replied: “Absolutely. That’s exactly what this is. It was a gamble: If we protect the administration, and we don’t call the key people, then can we still get a win without calling them? I think that the jury’s failure to reach a decision on those counts was proof that we needed the people within the administration to tell the story: Was that seat for sale?”

    When questions arose in late 2008 over what discussions took place between Obama, his advisers, and then-Gov. Blagojevich, Greg Craig, the soon-to-be White House counsel, conducted an inquiry and wrote a memo for public consumption stating there was no indication of “inappropriate discussions” occurring between the governor’s office.

    Obama stated he had “never spoken to the governor” about the vacant seat and had “no contact” with his office.

    Craig’s memo, released Dec. 23, 2008, acknowledged that in the days leading up to the election Emanuel had “one or two” conversations with Blagojevich.

    During the trial, however, former Blagojevich chief of staff John Harris testified that Emanuel called and told him then-Sen. Obama wanted a “close friend” of his appointed to the Senate seat.

    Harris testified that he understood that person to be Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s close friend and fund-raiser who now serves as one of his senior advisers.

    Harris testified: “[Emanuel] asked whether it would be helpful if Sen. Obama called the governor to advocate for this individual.” Harris replied “sure.”

    “He said, ‘I’ll let you know,” Harris added. “He wanted to say that [Obama] had a preference.”

    Holder tells Newsmax that to retry the case successfully prosecutors will have to be more aggressive about presenting witnesses. She believes they will have to call Emanuel to the stand.

    “Now, this is a very, very interesting situation because if the prosecution is going to retry this case, they are going to have to put Emanuel [on the stand to testify], [and] maybe Obama,” Holder says.

  35. Philo-Publius


    The Obama’s are off to the Vineyard!

    Its all part of his Summer of Recovery Plan.

  36. Philo-Publius

    Obama’s Point of No Return

    There comes a moment in a failing presidency where the incumbent, through some single gesture, action, or statement, crosses a certain line from beyond which there is no return. Through his own will and behavior he so underlines his failings, so frames his negative image, that no further action can ever erase it. Fate, accident, and circumstance have nothing to do with it. It is the president himself who puts the period at the end of his own sentence.

    With Obama, we have an abundance of riches: the multiple vacations, the legal harassment of the state of Arizona on behalf of illegals, the clownish response to the Gulf oil blowout. But when historians come to select the moment when Obama went over the edge of the world, I think they’ll find the great Iftar mosque speech of August 13, 2010 hard to beat.

    With Obama, suspicions have involved his status as an American. The foreign parentage, the registration in an Indonesian school noting him as a Muslim, the uproar over the birth certificate, aroused misgivings that, despite media scorn heaped upon those noting them, he has never quite been able to put to rest. As of last weekend, his opportunities to do so are ended. Impressions trump arguments, and for most of the country, Obama will, from here on in, be a strange and untrustworthy figure

    We can only hope and pray.

  37. We Stand With the Victims of 9/11,
    We Oppose the Mosque at “Ground Zero,” and
    We Urge You to Join Us in Opposition

  38. I wonder if bo will be vacationing again this year with Professor Gates, his pal who was arrested by the Cambrigde Police last year.

  39. New msnbc bo poll upside down

  40. truthbetold11

    clemens indicted but not blago. wow! using drugs for personal gain or blago decieving millions to protect obama and millions of job losses cause of this mafia chicago style politics

  41. What’s behind the GZ Mosque?

    Article Washington DC CL (truth or fiction?)

    Why does Mayor Bloomberg and President Obama support the building of a 911 Victory Mosque at Ground Zero? Here is the scoop on it. A wealthy
    Arab real estate developer had wanted to build the mosque on ground zero
    at the top of the 1776 tower in exchange for financing but city and port
    authority wanted those funds but wanted to redirect them to a site
    outside of Ground zero proper and then there was a meeting at the
    meeting the developer told the local authorities if a mosque was built
    on the site of ground zero than the likelihood that the new world trade
    center being rebuilt at the site would be destroyed again by terrorist
    attack if a 911 attack victory mosque was not built near the site.
    Bloomberg originally thought it was a form of extortion and a shake down
    and he went to obamaland homeland security and they convinced bloomberg
    and the principle lease holding developers of the 911 site plus the port
    authority that indeed letting a victory mosque be built on or near the
    site would lessen the likelihood that Islamic terrorist would again
    attack the same site. That does not mean they might not attack midtown
    Rockefeller Center instead but everyone bought into the idea of buying
    Islamic terror insurance for the new world trade center. Quietly the
    Obama Administration is planning to build a mosque at the center of the
    Pentagon with four minarets shaped like missiles as insurance against
    another peace loving Muslim attack on the the department of defense. So
    when you turn on the TV and they tell you that this is a religious issue
    it is not. The issue is buying insurance against a future attack. The
    Whitehouse already has a make shift mosque inside of it constructed by
    long time Obama family friend Louis Farrakhan who comes to visit the
    whitehouse frequently as the president’s unofficial national iman.
    Jewish staffers in the whitehouse have complained that they are not
    allowed access to the rooms converted to the national mosque. Farrakhan
    arrives quietly and incognito. If you are covering the whitehouse as a
    photographer you can catch a glimpse of his car coming into the compound
    on most high holy days celebrated by our Muslim president. You need a
    camera that can see though the black glass of the limousine used to get
    Farrakhan in.

  42. didn’t zagel say that he didn’t hear any shouting or heated arguments from the jury room? zagel must be hard of hearing. Sounds like the jury from hell to me. But for all we know the feds are just paying the jurors to intimidate blago into a plea bargain. The conduct of the judge, prosecutors, jurors, and blago in this trial is DISGUSTING. They have make a mockery of the federal “judicial” system.,0,2165643.story?page=2

    “I gave her a piece of my mind,” Grover said. “If it wasn’t for that one lady, we’d have had him convicted on probably 80 percent of (the indictment).”

    John Grover, 52, a juror from Joliet, said he grew so frustrated after three days of deliberating on the same charge that he yelled at the woman who refused to join the other 11 in agreeing to convict.

    “In a way, they didn’t prove it to one person,” he said. “I just felt a little slighted by that. It gave the impression to the residents of the state that this jury was deadlocked right down the middle when we weren’t.”

    Jury foreman James Matsumoto, 66, a retired video librarian from Chicago, said the holdout’s unwillingness to change her mind created tension. At one point a juror asked to switch chairs to sit across from her.

    “He said ‘I want to look her in the eye,'” Matsumoto recalled. “He did it calmly and civilly, but there was pressure.”

    “She said her stomach hurt on the days there were tension,” Matsumoto said. “She said, ‘I don’t know how much I can take.'”

    “Every charge related to the Senate seat became 11-1,” Sarnello said. “I think she wanted clear-cut evidence, and not everything was clear-cut.”

    In fact, according to Schindler, the group came close to being hung on all counts. He said a male juror changed his mind at the last minute to not guilty on count 24 — lying to the FBI. Schindler said he turned to the man and said: “Are you sure you don’t think he did this? That he was lying when he said that?”

    Schindler said the juror replied, “You’re right, change it back. He’s guilty.”

    “And so we had one,” Schindler said.

    Grover, a former Marine, said he was outraged during the trial when he heard Blagojevich on an undercover recording telling Obama to “go (expletive) himself.”

    “I swear to God I thought I saw stars,” Grover said. “I was going to go through the prosecution table right to him. I’ve never heard anything like that in my life. Tell the president of the United States to go ‘F’ himself. Where I come from, that doesn’t happen.”

    On his feelings now that the trial is over, Grover said: “I hate politics. I hate it even worse now.”

  43. hapnHal | August 19, 2010

    Where’s the link?


    Obama’s “Christian” grandmother in Mecca for Hajj
    Why the deception? And who was behind it? AP? The Obama camp? Someone else? What was its purpose?

    AP, March 5, 2008:

    “In the world of today, children have different religions from their parents,” she said. She, too, is a Christian.
    Is she really?

    “Saudi Arabia: Obama’s grandmother in Mecca for ‘Hajj’ ceremony,” from AKI, November 25 (thanks to C. Cantoni):

    Mecca, 25 Nov. (AKI) – The grandmother of US president Barack Obama has arrived in Saudi Arabia for the ‘Hajj’ or Islamic pilgrimage to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, a Saudi daily said on Wednesday. Sarah Obama, 87, is being accompanied by a nephew and Obama’s cousin, Omran.
    On Wednesday Sarah Obama was in the valley of Mina with an African delegation, according to the Saudi daily Okaz.

    Obama, the mother of the American president’s father, lives in a village in Kenya and is one of the many guests of Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud….


    August 19, 2010
    Saudi court considering severing spine of defendant
    It’s in the Qur’an: “We ordained therein for them: ‘Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.’ But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.” — Qur’an 5:45

    Now you will tell me, “Wait a minute, Spencer, that’s in the Hebrew Scriptures, too.” So often I hear that the Bible and the Qur’an are equivalent in their messages — something that only someone who hasn’t read either one could say. But in any case, it’s true: “an eye for an eye” appears in Exodus 21:22-25, Leviticus 24:19-21, and Deuteronomy 19:21. However, this phrase has always been understood in Judaism as limiting excessive vengeance, not encouraging it, and has never been taken in Jewish tradition as being a warrant for maiming anyone. It is likewise limited in Christianity by Jesus’ statement: “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” (Matthew 5:38-39).

    But in Islam, the literal force of the Qur’anic passage is paramount.

    “Saudi court mulls verdict to cut defendant’s spine,” from Emirates 24/7, August 19:

    A court in Saudi Arabia is seeking medical advice on whether it is possible to cut the spinal cord of a man as a punishment after he was indicted of causing paralysis to another man during a fight, a local daily reported on Thursday.
    The court in the northwestern province of Tabuk has sent letters to hospitals in the kingdom asking them whether the punishment to cripple the defendant by severing his spine is medically possible, the Arabic language daily Okaz said.

    The unidentified defendant hit Abdul Aziz Al Mutairi, another Saudi, with a cleaver during a fight more than two years ago and the trial has been delayed because Mutairi is insisting that his attacker suffer the same injury.

    “The General Court in Tabuk has sent several letters to hospitals in and outside the region asking doctors about the possibility of cutting the spinal cord of the defendant after he was indicted of causing paralysis to another man,” it said.

    The paper quoted the 22-year-old Mutairi as saying the defendant had confessed in court to hitting him with the cleaver during their fight in Tabuk.

    “King Khaled Hospital is of the opinion that it is possible to cut the spinal cord and cause paralysis medically through specialist centres,” he said.

    According to the paper, the verdict is pending responses from hospitals to the court’s letters.

    So there’s no discussion of whether it is cruel and unusual punishment. After all, it’s in the Qur’an.

  46. Michelle…………………………………
    …………..then I ask why did he say in his book, “If the winds of politics take a turn in an ugly direction I will st6and with the MUSLIMS. Such a statement tells me that Soetoro is either a COMMITTED MUSLIM or at the very least is totally sympathetic toward the ISLAMIC BELIEFS. Either way he IS a MUSLIM.

  47. Bo Himself has convinced the American people that he was and is still a Muslim:

  48. How the hell has the people in the US deteriorated so far that they go out and elect one of the 9-11 murderers to the office of the POTUS. To me that is the same thing as SPITTING upon your own people, and country.

  49. In 2012 we all need to come together and give the Soetoros a PERMANENT vacation from the WH. Hopefully to LEAVANWORTH for him!

  50. oldsalt79

    On second thought might not be a good idea……. Fort Leavenworth has been made Shariah compliant .

    Fort Leavenworth’s primary mission: education. Known as the “intellectual center of the Army,” Fort Leavenworth is home to the U.S. Army Combined Arms Center, where Gen. David Petraeus pondered the nature of insurgency before becoming the top military commander in Iraq.

    Students from Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan would leave their training .

    “The point is that a number of Islamic countries don’t think these detainees should be held anywhere. And if you hold them at the same place that they’re training the next generation of army and military leaders, they’re saying we’re out of here — we’re gone.”

  51. Lets all pray Israel has a successful bombing run with maximum collateral damage .

  52. Maybe B.O. is PRAYING DAILY for another reason…….FEAR1

  53. oldsalt79 @ 7:09 pm | Georgetown @ 7:12 pm |
    Obama said he is a Muslim, now he’s trying to change that story too. Everyone has seen the video’s with his own mouth he convicts himself. I absolutely wonder if he is insane, he is always more than a little bit confused, and/or he’s gotten all of his lies mixed up. Truth and Obama, oil and water just don’t mix.

  54. LM @ 7:31 pm |
    Notice how the WH phrased this. He prays everyday-religious affiliation not mentioned, so therefore it is NOT obvious that he is a Christian.
    Burton added, “The president is obviously a Christian. He prays everyday.”
    Also not releasing his records is also lying. I have “nothing” to hide, Obama has “everything” to hide.

  55. DAV………………….
    If they wait until the nuke is operating then if it can’t be shut down it will go critical mass and blow up on it’s own. Let the lunatics learn the HARD WAY.

  56. What gives Soetoro the right to build a mini mosque within our WHITEHOUSE? He didn’t ask us first. He not only sides with our ENEMY he has them come to the White house ,and spit upon the American people. He is even worse than the soldier who runs from our enemy under fire. Patton would probably have used his side arm on somebody like that, and in full view of his troops.

  57. oldsalt79 @ 7:09 pm | Georgetown @ 7:12 pm
    Another thing remember during the campaign when they were having a little fit if anyone mentioned the name Hussein-I was wondering what that was all about-I just thought it was a middle name why go insane over it until I saw this:
    Sen. Barack Obama slips up on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos and …The only slip up was Obama let the truth slip out and the reporter had to remind Obama about the “dialogue”. Most normal people know their religious affiliation without coaching.

  58. Everybody………..November is coming on like the express uptown train. 2012 is coming equally as fast. Our mission in both elections is to vote out as many LIBERALS as possible, and vote in people who will do what WE THE PEOPLE ask them to do. We must clean house at both STATE and FEDERAL LEVEL. We also need to impose term limits in Congress.

    August 19, 2010
    Is Obama Sunni or Shia Muslim?
    Amazing isn’t it, one little blog yesterday found here asking about the branch of Islam which B. Hussein Obama is a part of, and within hours Matt Drudge and the major media are all featuring stories on it.

  60. CW……………….

    Since WordPress changed their menu format, I’m unable to log onto your site from my home computer. In order to log into your site, I must use my business computer. Note my home email address was switched to my business computer, don’t know why the mix up. Could this be part of the problem? Yes, I reset cookies, but still no luck!

    I will keep trying to log onto your site from home. I sent an email to the tech support address, but so far no response has been made.


  61. Citizen Don in California

    oldsalt79 | August 19, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Maybe B.O. is PRAYING DAILY for another reason…….FEAR1
    It doesn’t say “who” he was praying to. Was it GOD or allah?

  62. Citizen Don in California | August 19, 2010 at 9:01 pm |
    It doesn’t say “who” he was praying to. Was it GOD or allah?

  63. Michelle

    He may be a Sunni but I think he’s also full of Shiite.

    Residents have also noticed a drop in the number of stores with Obama posters on their front windows and homes with signs that welcome the first family.
    What’s remarkable is the Boston Globe even mentioned this and Obama’s getting destroyed in the comments.

  65. ARMY D.A.V. @ 9:09 pm | It is the lying about it that is particularly offensive. I believe you cannot trust one word this man says, can you imagine how our allies must feel? They must wonder about us too, he betrayed his own people (theoretically us- if he were an NBC) so he won’t have a problem betraying them. Not one nation should feel safe under this guy including the Muslims. He is just not trustworthy and a proven liar-over and over again, the cover-ups don’t cut it anymore either.

  66. Iran time – Friday, August 20, 2010 at 5:45:23 AM
    Sunrise at 6:26 AM in direction 74° East-northeast

  67. I know that many don’t watch TV news, but tonight there was a discussion as to why Obama would deliberately take a position on the mosque that is so overwhelmingly opposed by the people. The gist was that he seems to not care as to whether his unpopular decisions politically hurt him or not. The question was raised whether it is from arrogance or incompetence.

    My answer would be “both”, but there is another angle to be explored IMHO.
    The more Obama acts out on the public stage, the more we see another phenomenon. Think about it. Just about everything he does causes division in our country. Look at the legal action against AZ over the illegal issue and the decision to try terrorists in NYC (is that on hold for now?). Now we have this mosque issue, which could well result in non-muslims being pitted against muslims over time.
    There are many more examples of resulting polarization, which doesn’t bother him one bit. In fact, I believe he thrives on it. He is one evil being who is not only trying to bring down America by his terrible policies, but by his efforts to destabilize and divide our people. Is his motto, “Divide and Conquer”? I believe so.

  68. Michelle
    Not one nation should feel safe under this guy including the Muslims.
    He’s is only required to tell the truth when speaking to other Muslims in private.

    Taqiyya , Islamic practice of lying to us Infidels.

  69. Cabby – AZ | August 19, 2010 at 9:25 pm |
    He is one evil being who is not only trying to bring down America by his terrible policies, but by his efforts to destabilize and divide our people. Is his motto, “Divide and Conquer”? I believe so.

  70. ARMY D.A.V. @ 9:26 pm
    To him I’m an infidel-Roman Catholic division, to us he is a traitor. Who is the one who took the oath to” I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” and was this a taqiyya moment too? after all, all but 1 per cent of us are infidels to him.

  71. Margie | August 19, 2010 at 1:08 pm |

    When will someone go to the congressional archieves (with a camera) and educate the citizens as to the defining fact…Natural born citizens are those born in a country to citizen parents???? hello anyone home
    Margie, we all know the meaning of natural born citizen, it is as you posted.

    Now understand, you are dealing with felons, murderers, liars, forgers, and Constitutional oath breakers. These people run the courts, and own the attorney general’s office, of the United States.

    They also know the correct meaning of natural born citizen, as it was used in our Constitution. The correct meaning is as you posted, Margie.

    Obama, Pelosi,Dean, Reid, and let’s include Senator Leahey, who proclaimed, during the Senates investigation of John McCain, and resolution 511, “a natural born citizen is one born in country to citizen parents”,also repeated by Michael Chertof, director of homeland security.

    The whole lot of them have obfuscated the true meaning of NBC, in order to fraudulently put Obama, AKA Soetoro’s name on the on the ballot.

    Margie, we are up against criminals, and we are fighting for our Constitution, and America. Criminals don’t pay much attention to the law, they spend their time plotting a way to skirt the laws that get in their way.

  72. LM | August 19, 2010 at 7:31 pm |

    White House says Obama is Christian, prays daily
    BREAKING NEWS!! Obama is a LIAR!!

  73. Philo-Publius

    Jeremiah Wright Was a Muslim: Why That Matters

    “I am a part of all that I have met.” Ulysses by Tennyson

    Long before Reverend Wright entered the national stage, Ryan Lizza of The New Republic, in the March 19, 2007 issue, dropped this little gem:

    Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity’s guiding principles–what the church calls the “Black Value System”

  74. Cabby – AZ
    My answer would be “both”, but there is another angle to be explored IMHO.
    My answer would be he has a serious mental illness problem , and the other angle is his orders are to destroy America through Marxist tactics aided by his Muslim allies all while being funded on our dime .

  75. At least one juror in the Blago trial sniffed out the truth of what was going on, and good for her. The judge in the trial engaged in gross malfeasance, because he side with the prosecution nearly 100 percent. The worst thing he did was buy into the prosecution’s argument to limit only those tapes which were “pertinent” to their case. The defense team argued unsuccessfully that limiting the tapes in this way damaged their client’s right to a fair trial. In effect, the judge allowed only those tapes to be admitted into evidence which put Blago in the worst light. This is grossly unfair and should not have been allowed to stand. A competent judge would never have allowed such selectivity concerning this recorded evidence.

    Because of this, Blago win win on appeal. The one conviction will not stick. Blago’s attorneys should have been allowed to play tapes exculpatory to their client. The playing of the full array of the tapes would have shown that everyone in Chicago–from Obama on down–were playing the game the exact same way. It is just old-fashioned big city machine politics. If he defense is on the ball the second time around, they will argue that Blago’s right to equal protection under the law has been violated by the government. This is the way to argue, the Fourteenth Amendment argument. Setting aside Blago for special prosecution, given the evidence that everyone was playing the game the same–which playing of key parts of the tape not allowed into evidence would have shown–is what happened in this trial. Blago will prevail on appeal.

    Of course! What better way to defend the First Amendment freedom of religion than to have the Speaker of the House ask the federal government investigate those exercising their First Amendment right to free speech? Nancy Pelosi just guaranteed at least two new news cycles for a story, tossing even more gasoline on the fire than Barack Obama’s pas de deux this weekend:
    Nancy Pelosi is a disgrace…
    Please stop voting democrat so this evil, disgusting woman is not the Speaker of the House come January 2011.

  77. Gianni @ 9:48 pm | Maybe some of the judges forgot about Operation Greylord in Cook County, lots of them went to jail with the other scum. Quite the little scandal this was.
    Are there any more Judicial scandals coming down the road? The judges who weathered the storm of Greylord and Gambat are much more aware of their vulnerability. It is unlikely that they would risk their professional careers and reputations pocketing $50 bribes as in the days of old.
    The Circuit Court of Cook County’s Criminal Division randomly assigns cases, and the “let’s make a deal” army of attorneys comprising the “Hustlers Club” at Traffic Court have been weeded out and removed for the most part. However, institutionalized graft as it has been refined in Cook County government over the years will always find new and ingenious methods of eroding the system – especially when the judiciary is unable to divorce Itself from politics.

  78. Philo-Publius

    The Third September 11 Memorial

  79. Philo-Publius

    Michelle at 9:51 pm |

    Of course! What better way to defend the First Amendment freedom of religion than to have the Speaker of the House ask the federal government investigate those exercising their First Amendment right to free speech?

    Pelosi’s investigation of Harry Reid&Howard Dean&others who oppose Ground Zero Mosque will be enlightening,we’re sure.(Note to AP: GZM term)

  80. Philo-Publius

    AP Orders Staff: ‘Stop Using the Phrase “Ground Zero Mosque”

    In an unusual move, the Associated Press has publicly released an advisory memo to its reporters on how to cover of the Ground Zero mosque story – and the first rule is that journalists must immediately stop calling it the “Ground Zero mosque” story.

  81. Lame Cherry’s exposition on Zero being a Sunni is spot on. Occam’s razor reminds us that the simplest explanation is usually closest to the truth. The bow to the Saudi King speaks volumes. Not just at war with American liberty, Zero is setting up events to enable Sunni to prevail over Shia, fully and finally. For those of us in his recent home Chicago, kind of like the Cubs ridding themselves of every major leaguer so the can be forever dominated by an erzatz triple A team from Daleyville, the Sox!

  82. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    A friend and frequent correspondent (a good stout religious fellow scared out of his wits for the last many months) sent me this email. My response to him is quoted.

    From: xxxx
    Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:26 PM
    To: xxxx
    Subject: FW: A Saudi/Muslim ‘plant’ in the White House ………

    Pure Speculation… or not?
    Folks you need to watch and think about this….
    This just broke today. It’s big. qffE

    I don’t know about “broke today”. This sort of stuff has been going around for months. On of the interesting things is that Nobody Important seems to care. Also, the producer of this video left out the most important piece of hard evidence. It has not been proven in a court of law, but there is strong evidence that Saudi’s paid for his Harvard education.

    Also, strangely enough, whether or not this video is true or not is not the real issue here. The REAL ISSUE is that it COULD be true. There is NO EVIDENCE to counter this video. That is what I have been complaining about for two years. WHO IS THIS PERSON? Nobody knows. Nobody. (We have not had this same problem and same uncertainty with any other president or high ranking official – even other current examples that worry us for other reasons: Hillary, Nancy, or Biden.)

    He is clearly the stooge of somebody. EVERYBODY admits that. The left leaners just say that he is ‘representing the interests’ of labor, academia, ACORN type organizations, and maybe one branch of economists. Some of us are very alarmed by his clear background and tendencies as regards Socialism. Some just believe that he is un-American simply because his early influences (formative years) were spent under the wing of anti-American relatives, friends, politics, and culture. People who produced this video say he is a ‘plant’ of Saudis and Islam.

    The point is: We don’t know and Nobody Important is asking questions. For those of us who are just regular people, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO QUESTION. A few have tried, but all have been smacked down. Regardless of America, it is totally unacceptable from a World perspective that anybody with so much power should be allowed to be such an enigma. Especially in a Constitutional Republic where We The People are the sovereigns – it is illegal and unconstitutional for our questions to be denied. This passive fact alone, with no additional aggressive activity, is grounds for impeachment, removal from office, and trial for treason.

  83. People waiting around to see if Obama will do the right thing for America, don’t understand. Forgery, and wire fraud , to attain the US presidency, and usurp the presidency, by way of lies, and deceit, about Obama’s eligibility, tells me, they only mean harm. Obama’s mission is nefarious and he is out to do harm. He didn’t usurp the job, criminally, to help America, and defend our Constitution.

  84. Army D.A.V. 9:47 PM
    My answer would be he has a serious mental illness problem , and the other angle is his orders are to destroy America through Marxist tactics aided by his Muslim allies all while being funded on our dime .
    Appreciate your input. I fully agree with your comments, especially as to the use of Marxist tactics aided by Muslim allies. Our founding fathers would turn over in their graves if they knew what we are now faced with.

  85. Philo-Publius

    In Profile of Barack Obama, Muslim Upbringing as a Child: Islam scholar Daniel Pipes reports the following:

    “In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. [his Kenyan birth father] was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named ‘Hussein’.… [Barack Obama’s] stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: ‘My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim.’ An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that ‘All the relatives of Barry’s [Barack’s] father were very devout Muslims.’”

    We know Obama was enrolled as a Muslim in the Besuki Primary School, a public school in Jakarta. At the Besuki school, all Indonesian students were required to study religion and a young Obama would have been required to study Islam daily in school. He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam. In Obama’s autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” he acknowledged studying the Quran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school”.

    Barack Obama’s Muslim Childhood

  86. Dear one – you make me weep. This is exactly the point.

    Go to Arlington or any other large military cemetery. Stand there and look over the fields of the dead, and their spirit, and their lives, and what they gave to preserve the American Ideal. This is not it. This is not what they died for. Those who do not immediately weep and fall to their knees – such should never be high elected officials.

    They gave their all. For what? FOR EFFING WHAT? Comunism? Islam? Pay to Play? Rampant atheism? Degenerate morals? Corrupt judges? Ridicule of the constitution (“are you serious?”) Fraud, con, usurper?
    Thank you, CC…my Vietnam Veteran husband and I just discussed this last week.
    Sad, so very sad.

  87. The more Obama acts out on the public stage, the more we see another phenomenon. Think about it. Just about everything he does causes division in our country.
    Bingo!! Which is why I don’t discuss the fraud anywhere I go–try it!!
    It’s sooooo refreshing–someone insults the fraud, complains about the fraud…just change the subject smiling, if course.

  88. Michelle | August 19, 2010 at 9:51 pm |

    You must read this and it’s not a joke!!

    Published in August 6th, 2010
    Posted by TMH in Constitution, PoliticsBy: AJ

    Wisconsin has enacted a law which makes political free speech subject to fees or jail time.

    If you think this can’t happen in America… well… it just did. This law affects liberals, conservatives and those of every political persuasion. It affects every American, both inside and outside of WI, who communicate in any manner about candidates running for office in WI.

    Whether you are supporting or opposing a candidate, gathering to demonstrate for or against a candidate, or even if you are using email or the Internet to express your opinion about a candidate, you are subject to fees or jail time.

    In the dark of night, behind closed doors, WI enacted the new Government Accountability Board – G.A.B. 128 Rule which silences political free speech 60 days prior to the election. Conveniently, this law goes into effect on August 15, 2010 with little to no time for successful legal challenges prior to the November 2010 election.
    Under this new law, individuals and groups must pay a $100 registration fee to the state of WI if they want permission to use political speech that totals at least $25 “cumulatively in a calendar year.” But it doesn’t stop there…

    Individuals and groups must set up a separate depository account and file a report with the Accountability Board and Secretary of State. They then need to provide periodic reports of every communication – explaining the type of communication/action for each and every episode of political free speech.

    What WI did by adding G.A.B. 1.28 to the G.A.B. 1 Rule is to define political communication and actions in order to give the government the legal ability to regulate and monitor everything you say and do.
    link for remainder of article:

  89. JJ @ 11:39 pm |
    “FREE SPEECH ISN’T FREE ACCORDING TO WISCONSIN” I think instead of G.A.B. Rule, they meant G.A.G. Rule. I wonder how long it will take our fellow Americans to revert to another language, sign language, cuneiform-pig Latin-the state of WI has lost its mind or maybe they seceded from the Union? The rest of us still have the Bill of Rights. WI this is really S.I.C.K. and what are you so afraid of that may be expressed?

  90. Michelle | August 19, 2010 at 11:49 pm | JJ @ 11:39 pm |
    “FREE SPEECH ISN’T FREE ACCORDING TO WISCONSIN” I think instead of G.A.B. Rule, they meant G.A.G. Rule
    When I think of this, I am reminded that Arizona had traffic cameras—it just so happened that 96% of the drivers issued tickets told the state to kiss their b*tts—the cameras have been removed.
    When the people stick together, much is accomplished.
    They won’t get paid.
    Jail half of the state?
    I don’t think so.

  91. Citizen Don in California

    Feds leap to defense in California election dispute
    Move case challenging candidate’s legitimacy to U.S. District Court
    Posted: August 19, 2010
    11:15 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    The federal government has jumped up to join the defense in a lawsuit in California that challenges the eligibility of a Republican candidate in the race for secretary of state, filing a demand that the dispute be moved from state court to U.S. District Court.

    The case, filed pro se by Pamela Barnett, was launched to challenge the eligibility of Damon Dunn as a candidate in the Republican primary for the state office that oversees all elections.


    The lawsuit, however, also cited the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, and because of that, U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner explains, the case is being moved to the federal court system, where dozens of challenges involving Obama’s eligibility have been shut down over the issue of “standing” – or the damages suffered by the plaintiff.

    While the case was filed before the primary election, the primary results left Dunn opposing Bowen in the general election.

    “Please take notice that the United States of America, through its undersigned counsel, removes the civil action reflected in the attached pleading from the court of the State of California where it was pending, [so] that the proceedings be governed by the applicable federal rules and statutes,” the federal document explains.


    The case alleges Dunn did not have a valid or current California drivers license as required on the state’s voter registration form to affiliate with the GOP and be qualified to vote. It also alleges irregularities including missed deadlines, an alleged previous affiliation with the Democratic Party and other concerns.

    The complaint alleges Dunn was posing as a Republican and that state officials refused to investigate his bona fides, just as they refused to investigate Obama’s prior to the 2008 election.
    Starting to get interesting. I’ll write in Tatiz for SoS anyway!

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole country boy!!

  92. >>oldsalt79 | August 19, 2010 at 7:13 pm | How the hell has the people in the US deteriorated so far that they go out and elect one of the 9-11 murderers to the office of the POTUS. To me that is the same thing as SPITTING upon your own people, and country.<<<

    You know, there is wisdom in your statement. Truly, sit back and think about were Obama came from, and the hate that his teachers and reverend spewed forth. Then consider the 'angry' middle aged 60's burnouts that manipulated everything to hide his past and get him elected. When did these people ever appreciate freedom or the constitution? As Woody Allen said "I just wish Obama could be a dictator for a few years".

    Obama as POTUS is a slap in the face of the hard working americans whom cling to the Constitution, Christ, and self-protection and self-determination. He is not a 'robin hood' just another Mao, Hitler, or Stalin…whom seeks power to serve himself, not his country.


  93. citizenwells

    Thanks hapnHal.

  94. Lead in to blago’s interview on NBC Today Show was “Is he preparing for a plea deal?”

  95. The Wayne Madsen Report – Parts 1, 2, 3

    * * * *

    The link to the AJ Show:

    “Wayne Madsen Bombshell: Barack Obama Conclusively Outed As CIA Creation – Alex Jones TV – 1/3”

    Part 1/3

    Part 2/3

    Part 3/3

  96. The Muslim – Christian Thing seems to be taking the MSM into an apocalyptic frenzy greater than the Eligibility question. Watching Morning Joe on MSNBC, the whole discussion is “Of course he’s Christian”. They are saying that pretty soon we will be seeing pictures of him going to church. Especially in Martha’s Vineyard. REMEMBER – THE MSM GOES DOWN WITH THE USURPER.

    PS – Check out this book – “The Secrets of the Bilderberg Club”

  97. Philo-Publius

    Fight is on over another Arizona immigration law
    State banishes teaching school students ‘overthrow of United States government’

    The superintendent of the Arizona Department of Public Education says his agency will consider a refusal by the school district in Tucson to videotape its “Raza studies” classes as evidence the district is “deliberately” concealing its agenda.

    The state had asked Tucson, in view of a new state law that takes effect at the end of this year that bans promoting to students “the overthrow of the United States government” and other issues, to record its “Raza” classes this fall to document what is being taught.

    No, said Tucson officials.

  98. Check this woman out too – Lady Rothschild. She was on MSNBC yesterday.

  99. Philo-Publius

    NOAA Scientist: Release of Oil Spill Report done by White House, Not NOAA

    A NOAA scientist, Dr. Bill Lehr, yesterday told a group of Congressional staff investigators on a conference call that a controversial National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) report claiming that nearly three-quarters of the oil from the Gulf oil spill has already been addressed was released by White House officials and not scientists at NOAA.

  100. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Philo-Publius | August 20, 2010 at 8:31 am |

    NOAA Scientist: Release of Oil Spill Report done by White House, Not NOAA


    Hey FS and PP – here is a cookie for you. In this case, I agree 100%. WH and others have indeed been misrepresenting the situation. Here is more specifically what I’ve been saying and what is still true:

    True, the well has been stopped – unless they dick it up trying to tie up loose ends and put a permanent plug in it. But it is not true that the worst is past. Nor is it time to celebrate and move on to more interesting topics. Most of the oil is still out there somewhere, and there are lots of toxic dispersant chemicals. Nobody knows the long term impact to the current crop of sea creatures, nor to the reproduction cycles.

    The winds and waves could further disperse things or could push things back toward shore. A good hurricane or series of tropical storms could stir things up, suck things up, and deposit nasty crud at least 100 mi inland. I don’t know much about this particular person or what or when he said what. But if the article is accurate, what was said before is false and what he is saying now is more nearly true.

  101. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Here is a Community Project you can all help with. I have a number of email correspondents who rely on me to send them a SYNOPSIS (talking points, sound bites, whatever) on various hot topics. I have drafted something about the Blago mess and present it here for your review. Please feel free to add, subtract, or correct. And if you have similar correspondents, you are free to pass this along without attribution. I just want to get the information into a wide circulation. Not everybody takes time to wade through a well-reasoned, liberally foot-noted, report.

    Blagojevich Trial – what you need to know

    You have barely heard of this on the MSM. And what you have heard is just the tip of the iceberg. (Another case of the MSM keeping you FULLY informed – snark!) The story is long and complicated, so in the hope that you will actually take time to read this and try to digest some of it, I will just enumerate the most important highlights. All of this is detailed in court records, local (Chicago) newspapers, and various places on the Internet. Regardless of the irresponsibility of the MSM, the truth is still available to those who seek.

    1. The Federal authorities had been tracking Blago for several years and had accumulated a rather massive file of evidence of multiple counts of illegal activities.

    2. Given the nature of the activities – especially being that they are Business As Usual for Chicago machine politics, it is curious why they showed so much interest in Blago.

    3. Given the years of evidence, it is curious why they arrested him in a hurry shortly after Nov 2008 election but before the counting of the electoral votes and before congress certification. If you remember, there was very definitely a surprise arrest – OMG, something has just now gone terribly wrong! – 6am, roust out of bed event. Why the hurry? Why the drama?

    4. There were several dozen rather egregious charges – and as you may recall – the Federal prosecutor bragged about them and how they had him dead-to-rights and miles and miles of tape of wiretapped conversations.

    5. Stuart Levine and Tony Rezko were two other locally connected businessmen/politicians that were previously convicted and awaiting sentencing. Rezko in particular was up to his neck in intrigue with Blago, other Chicago politicians, and most importantly the Obamessiah. It was well known and documented that Rezko had agreed to cooperate and testify at the Blago trial for a significantly lightened sentence. His involvement was so deep that he was to be the star witness, with Levine as a close second.

    6. The tapes are known to involve (implicate?) Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Rahm Emmanuel, David Axelrod, Valerie Jarret, among others. Some of these parts of the tapes have been made public via transcript with the names redacted. But it is pretty easy to fill in the blanks.

    7. Blago has long claimed that ‘all’ of the tapes need to be made available and entered as evidence. He has never said why but the leading authorities speculate two reasons: 1) Everybody was involved in the Pay to Play and it was unfair to single him out; and 2) To the extent that there were any wrongdoings, he would be shown to be on the passive end of the stick and not the one pushing this.

    8. The judge ruled that only parts of the tapes that he, the Judge, thought were relevant were to be allowed into evidence. This is a rather singular action – depriving a defendant of his choice of defense is suspicious at best. Legal experts have noted that this fact alone is sufficient to require and even win an appeal.

    9. During the arraignment and other pre-trial proceedings, the prosecution dropped a lot of the charges and the most wide-ranging ones, and chose to focus almost entirely on the ‘attempted selling of a vacant senate seat’. In fact, if you know anything about the trial, you will have heard it referred to in this manner – as if that were the only crime.

    10. During the trial, the prosecutor put on a very weak case. The case was so weak, in fact, that even though everybody ‘knows’ he is as guilty as sin, the jury was unable to convict him except on one of the most minor charges of lying to the FBI. This was directly the result of being able to connect the dots via the evidence the prosecution presented.

    11. One of the more astounding events (non-events!) was that neither Rezko or Levine was called as a prosecution witness. They had many hundreds(!) of witness and only called several dozen.

    12. In fact the case was so weak that the defense just quit at some point. They did not even finish their planned rebuttals and witnesses. Blago himself had promised to take the stand and explain himself. After the prosecution rested, the defense essentially said, why go on? Is that all they got? They haven’t proven anything! And they declined to continue. The defense rested.

    13. Somewhere in the most explosive part of this investigation – after Blago arrest but before much of the proceedings – the Federal prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald (yes, he of Valerie Plame and Scooter Libby fame), was promoted from (independent) Federal prosecutor to (dependent) position on Administration’s staff. Certainly an event to raise an eyebrow or two.

    14. Given that Rezko had been pretty much tied at the hip with Obama for many years (look it up) and with Rezko’s extensive interactions with other Obama functionaries, one wonders about all of this. What was on the tapes? Why no Rezko as a witness? This stinks worse than rotten fish.

    Now, once again, did you know all this? Did the MSM explain it to you? Did you know that all this was involved? Or, you probably thought this was just a trial about some ‘letter of the law’ technicality ethics violations by an over-eager politician. You know, a sort of slap on the wrist sort of thing. Happens all the time in politics – nothing to see here – move along – – –

  102. loaves&fishes

    Obama is behaving the way any muslim behaves according to its relationship to infidels of which the American people all are – he is allowed to lie – which he does all of the time – fool me once …… it is so obvious the desire to destroy is coming from the muslim influence and political correctness has ruined us from within – the muslim brotherhood has infiltrated in a transparent fashion our goverment and is influencing the decisions being made at the highest levels –
    if it is true farakhan comes in descretely – do you need to ask why – the real question is do we have the ability to rid oursevles of this treason – call it what it is TREASON – TRAITOR – why did the whitehouse call Georgetown U when Obama spoke there shortly after election – asked them to cover Christian Symbols – and they did – WHY?!!!!! no reason except to not offend
    muslims ? it is insanity – it is the devils workshop – chaos as defined by the dictionary – there is so much evidence to prove the oath of the office of President of U S is being violated – I pray our founders really gave us the tools to change this attack on freedom – my relatives form the revolution on are in graves died for fought for this freedom ‘s light trying to be snuffed out !!!!!!! God Bless America and her citizens who believe in her truth – help them enlighten those who have lost sight of God at the center of this land – help them shout from the mountain tops we have failed BUT we know the road back – put God in his rightful place – its the only way – Natural law brings order and happiness for all men and women , children – afterall we are made in His image ! <

  103. loaves&fishes

    where did my comment go

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