Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo interview, October 16, 2009, Kerchner V Obama, et al, Lawsuit updates, MommaE blog radio

Just in from MommaE Blog Radio, October 16, 2009:

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A recent article by attorney Mario Apuzzo and information on Kerchner V Obama
“Why Should a Reputable Attorney Pursue the Obama Eligibility Issue?

I have been asked by one pro-Obama commentator on my blog who calls himself “kris” why a reputable attorney would pursue eligibility litigation against our putative President, Barack Obama.

In his argument, the commentator makes several correct statements. He is correct in stating that “Wong Kim Ark, while providing an expansive and controversial definition of a Fourteenth Amendment ‘citizen of the United States,’ simply does not and cannot retroactively change the Founders’ definition of a ‘natural born Citizen.'”

He is also correct in stating that the Founders never defined in the Constitution what a “natural born Citizen” is. What the commentator does not state is that the Founders believed in a Creator, who to provide order and justice, gave society natural law. That natural law manifested itself in the minds and hearts of men. What society was, who its members were, and what the ends of society were to be were all revealed through that natural law. Hence, there was no reason or motivation for them to write down what a “Citizen” or “natural born Citizen” was. Given the task of creating a new society after having won a revolution, for them it was intuitive that a “citizen” was a member of the new society and the children of the first citizens would in the future be the society’s “natural born citizens.” They also provided for others to join the new society in the future through naturalization and the children of those so joining the society would also be “natural born citizens.””

Read more:

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-should-reputable-attorney-pursue.html

111 responses to “Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo interview, October 16, 2009, Kerchner V Obama, et al, Lawsuit updates, MommaE blog radio

  1. I assume the Honolulu Advertiser Newspaper fudging of history is all being made known to Judge David Carter in the Fed. District Ct., Santa Ana, CA, in Orly Taitz’s Keyes et al v. Obama.

    If not it should be. Seems to confirm why discovery needs to proceed, like NOW, or ASAP!

    In any event, it certainly dovetails with both the foregoing and ongoing RICO aspects raised in Orly’s recent filing (after the Oct 5, 2009 hearing) and, specifically, the Dept. of Justice’s ongoing delay of the case (through its Motion to Dismiss etc.) is an act (by the Government no less) in obstructing justice in what is the most significant case and constitutional crisis this nation has faced since the American Civil War.

    Team Obama (with the help of the Justice Dept.) is benefitting from its delay of the Keyes case and discovery in the Keyes case, by the scrubbing of history!

  2. Apuzzo is right in the fact that the term “Natural-Born Citizen” (yes, that’s how it was written in the original Constitution during its construction) is not defined in the Constitution or in U.S. statute.

    But that’s because it is a definition that was already self-evident, like the terms Naturalization, Post Road, and Militia.

  3. Morning All,

    OT, but a follow-up on yesterday’s post regarding foreign troops on American soil.

    A couple of people are working on this, so here’s what we have thus far:

    The FEMA NLE09 (National Level Exercise, 2009, formerly called ‘TOPOFF’) was a drill to help impose martial law as the result of a terrorist attack in the U.S. Digging to find out if the foreign troops are still here.

    April, 2009-there was a Marine’s Partnership of the Americas exercise conducted in Newport Beach, FL. It was an ‘amphibious assault’ exercise and involved the U.S., Brazil, Canada, Columbia, Chile, Ecuador, Peru,and Uruguay. Not realizing what this was, a crowd gathered at the site of the drill and when the assault was launched, applauded. We don’t believe they’re still here.

    Some of you may know this already, however, the most sinister of the ‘operations’ was in Hardin, MT with the ‘American Police Force.’ The group that is involved is Phoenix International who maintain approximately 400 ‘police trainers’ headquartered in Langley, VA. They are mercenaries. The creepy part of this company is that they seem to be owned by Dyncorp International

    http://www.dyn-intl.com/overview.aspx

    This company is linked to the sex slave market in Bosnia and we’re checking on some information that their ‘police forces’ may be involved in the administration of forced sterilization vaccines to be used in America! (Oh, I don’t know if I wanna know this!). Also checking on the link of Stanley Ann Dunham to the Bosnia ‘operation.’

    We*know* that they’re still here, and more than likely, many more groups who are operating under the radar.

    More as info becomes available.

  4. Patriot Dreamer

    Langley, VA is also home to the CIA. Just sayin’.

  5. Patriot Dreamer // October 16, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Morning, PD,

    They all seem to be intertwined. Soros and his money have to be in there, too…

  6. OT, but informative…

    Kos Spanks Harry Reid

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/10/16/kos-spanks-harry-reid/

  7. Interesting…

    The Commerce Clause, The Federal Judiciary, and Tyranny (or How Scalia Helped Screw America)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2363918/posts

  8. It was only 4 weeks ago 1.7+ million people went to D.C. to be heard.

    The “Media” reported it as “thousands”. LIARS.

    Time to get off the couch, away from the computer, and in their faces. Perhaps if they just need to point the camera and microphone out their windows, they’d actually cover the news. Wishful thinking.

    http://www.operationcanyouhearusnow.com/

  9. This was at Orly’s site…..

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    Posted on | September 20, 2009 | 69 Comments

    Barney Franks is in on it too? What a surprise. Should I add him as a defendant?

    Friday, October 16, 2009 6:31 AM

    “B.F.”

    Add sender to Contacts
    To:
    dr_taitz@yahoo.com

    Florida Bill Says:
    October 15, 2009 at 7:04 PM

    Just a coincidence?

    July 2004: Obama makes keynote speech at the Democratic convention and is hailed as the future of the party.

    October 2004: Congressman Barney Frank [D-MA] speaks as a witness to the Senate Judiciary Committee about his belief that the people of the United States should be able to elect a president of their choosing, even if that candidate is not a natural-born citizen.
    In these comments, Frank all but names Obama and describes our current situation to the letter.

    Here is the audio clip of his remarks: (be sure to listen to this!!!)

    [audio src="http://media.talkradionews.com/audio/2158.mp3" /]

    Obama’s opposition in the senate race is mysteriously swift boated at the last minute, (ironically by having his divorce records unsealed by “someone” in the Chicago Machine) the Republicans are forced to scramble for a candidate, finally settling for Keyes.
    November 2004: Obama wins in a landslide essentially by clearing the playing field. At his first press conference Obama is asked about a Presidential run in 08 without having served a day in the Senate.

    Obama blows off the suggestion by claiming he lacks experience.

    That’s quite a series of events, wouldn’t you say?

  10. Just a reminder…

    Pray for our American Heroes

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2363901/posts

  11. Flu vaccines only “work” on people who don’t need them
    • Vaccines supposedly “work” by introducing a weakened viral strain that causes the immune system to respond by building influenza antibodies. However, as Jefferson points out, only healthy people produce a good antibody response to the vaccine. And yet it is precisely the unhealthy people — the ones who have a poor immune response to the vaccine — who are most at risk of being harmed or killed by influenza. But the vaccines don’t work in them!

    • [In other words — get this — flu vaccines only “work” in people who don’t need them!]

    • [At the same time, it’s also accurate to say that vaccines don’t work at all in the very people who theoretically could benefit from them. They only produce antibodies in people who already have such a strong immune response that they don’t need the vaccine in the first place.]
    http://www.naturalnews.com/z027239_vaccines_flu_vaccine_.html

    SueK, I would be interested in your opinion of this article.

  12. JS – great find. BF is and always has been a farce. I don’t know how he keeps getting elected. Do people really vote for this guy? Really?

    Found this post over at Obamafile – did you know the Obama’s have a nonprofit whose mission is to train teachers to teach our children? Did you know they have nine facilities and large donors who support this nonprofit?

    Sorry for the length but thought all moms, dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents, friends, brothers and sisters should read this. Spread it far and wide folks.

    Community Organizing In America’s Schools

    Yesterday, the US News & World Report published an essay, “Michelle Obama, Teachers Are Key to a Successful Economy.” It begins:

    Michelle Obama: Teachers Are Key to a Successful Economy
    By Michelle Obama
    Posted October 15, 2009
    Michelle Obama is the first lady of the United States.

    That’s a lot of Michelle Obamas

    Anyway, after personalizing Michelle and the kids, Michelle’s ghost-writer inserts the boiler-plate about the challenges and lack of rewards of teaching, which has been eternally true, and spring-boards into the reason for the exercise — placing community organizers into the public schools — Michelle refers to them as “leaders.”

    Today, we need a new generation of leaders to take their place in our nation’s schools. We need passionate, talented, committed men and women to step up and devote themselves to preparing our students to succeed in this new century.

    We need universities to double down on their efforts to prepare teachers and to improve and expand effective alternative routes to certify teachers. We need to encourage more experienced professionals to consider teaching as the next chapter in their careers.

    Well, we know the universities are producing new teachers that believe the country was founded by a bunch of old white guys who owned slaves, but what does “…expand effective alternative routes to certify teachers” mean? — and this:

    We need parents to do their part as well to match that leadership in the classroom with leadership at home…We need to reinforce the example that’s being set and the lessons being taught at school and make sure that learning continues at home.

    Clearly, Michelle is describing a formal linkage between the organizing effort in the school and the home, which is a great thing if we’re talking reading, writing, and arithmetic, but that’s not what the Obama’s history tells us she has in mind.

    Much work lies ahead, and it won’t be easy. But I am confident that with a new generation of outstanding leaders in our classrooms, we can make a lasting difference in the lives of our young people and a lasting impact on the life of this nation.

    There’s that “leaders” thing again, and in the classroom — and now that we know the Obamas a little, do you really believe that Michelle Obama is referring to reading comprehension when her goal is to make a “lasting impact on the life of this nation.”

    So what’s really going on here? Community organizing, that’s what — it’s what these people do. It’s like a virus — and the Obamas are carriers.

    The means to Michelle’s ends lies in her statement, “…expand effective alternative routes to certify teachers” — and just guess who just happens to have an “alternative route to certify teachers” — yup, the Obamas.

    Did you know that Barack and Michelle Obama have been operating 15 fully-staffed Alinsky training centers since 1993?

    The Obamas are operating a non-profit called Public Allies, an organization modeled upon Alinsky’s “people’s organizations.” It is operating under the watchful eye of Michelle Obama and it has a ton of money — more than $75 million per year — and an impressive list of donors. Naturally, it also receives grants from federal, state and municipal sources. Its mission has been, and is, to produce “community organizers” — baby Obamas — and its process is replicable and repeatable — continually producing more apparatchiks — they are referred to as “leaders.”

    During the campaign, Obama also ran, at the state level, a “national program for social change,” called “Camp Obama” — here is their sign-up page. The Obama Campaign’s website promised that “you’ll get the kind of experience that Barack got as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago,” and “Camp Obama is your chance to step up and become a ‘leader’ in this ‘movement’.”

    There it is again, the word, “leader.” It has a very specific meaning to these people.

    These “leaders” answer to only one person — Obama — and they provide a ready pool of “leaders” to train, new “teachers.” It’s in place. It’s a professional development entity. Is it the “effective alternative route” of which Michelle speaks? It is if Obama says it is.

    Remember the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the “Small Schools” movement? The program focused on individual schools built around specific political themes to push students to “confront issues of inequity, war, and violence.” The teacher education programs served as “sites of resistance” to an oppressive system.

    The point of the program, said Bill Ayers in his “Teaching Toward Freedom,” is to “teach against oppression,” against America’s history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.

    Small Schools is the Obama model. It’s what they know. It’s what they believe. It’s what they’ve practiced. It’s what the have in mind for the schools.

    This is what Michelle is talking about when she says her goal is to prepare “students to succeed in this new century.”

    This bunch has been organizing since the 1960s — they’ve taken over the colleges and universities — Michelle’s essay outlines their plan to take over the primary and secondary schools — you can bet there are bills and riders to bills for the funding already working their way through the House.

    After high school is when Rahm Emanuel’s plan kicks in. In his book, “The Plan: Big Ideas for America,” Rhambo writes: “We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, all Americans between the ages of 18 and 25 will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service.”

    On July 2nd, 2008, Obama spoke in Colorado Springs and hit themes of national service, foreign policy, and national security. In that vein, Obama proposed a rather extraordinary idea — that the US should spend as much money on a civilian national security force as it does on the military. (video)

    “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

    It’s all connected. Don’t you let them get away with it. Learn to organize. The Tea Parties and 912 activities are probably a good place to start.

    If conservatives don’t organize, they win. It’s as simple as that.

  13. JACK…………………………………….
    Judging from the history of Judge Carter that I have been able to learn about first and foremost he is no dummy. I believe that every move he makes has justified, and strong reason behind it. After all he is up against the Master of deceit, and immorality. There is no level of lying that Soetoro will stop at. He is a habitual liar. In reality he doesn’t have a clue regarding the CIC job

  14. d2i // October 16, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    JS – great find. BF is and always has been a farce. I don’t know how he keeps getting elected. Do people really vote for this guy? Really?

    Found this post over at Obamafile – did you know the Obama’s have a nonprofit whose mission is to train teachers to teach our children? Did you know they have nine facilities and large donors who support this nonprofit?

    Sorry for the length but thought all moms, dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents, friends, brothers and sisters should read this. Spread it far and wide folks.

    *******************************************

    My 16 year old daughter knows more than BF….I don’t know how he gets elected either!!!

    I am a former teacher….I’m sure the teacher unions have something to do with this!!!

  15. Sue K,

    As I suspected you would find this about Hardin MT. Alex Jones had interviewed a number of bed and breakfast/hotel owners/eateries and they all confirmed a number of foreign troops have been staying there for a LONG time prior to “The Captain” showing up.

    Keep digging!

    BTW: This is old news to listeners of Alex Jones.

  16. Obviously Barney Frank needs to be put in a cage as well. It is called breaking the law, OUR Constitution. Only a Natural Born Citizen can become Commander in Chief. And oh Barney I think citizens should be able to smack some sense into you, if they wish.

  17. Patriot Dreamer

    carried over from the previous thread:

    Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Is this true?

    http://vocalminority.typepad.com/blog/2009/10/ayatollah-khamenei-dead.html
    *****************************************
    That’s the rumor. I have seen no confirmation.

  18. ONE Movement (Vanity)

    “The 2010 elections will transform America.”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2363891/posts

    Let’s hope so! Especially, if we have anything to do with it!

  19. O/T but thought it important to share

    WHAT ELSE WAS BURIED IN THE STIMULUS PACKAGE?

    According to Dr. Blaylock, the real essence of legislation for government controlling the practice of medicine has already been passed — to a degree. It was secretly inserted in the stimulus package as electronic medical records data system (EMS).

    Dr. “B” says within this legislation is a provision for the development of treatment protocols. These protocols give the administration EVERYTHING they need to DENY CARE to selected populations of people, such as the elderly and those with chronic diseases and presently incurable diseases, which comprises approx 5% of the medical care population that consumes half of the healthcare dollar. Rationing will be targeted toward them.”

    “Medical care protocols (Cookbook Medicine) will tie the doctor’s hands completely since there will be a variety of heavy fines and punishments, including imprisonment, for deviating from them.” (these threats to physicians who deviate currently exist, but looks like they will most likely intensify)

    Dr. “B” says, “In the beginning, most protocols will appear reasonable.” (I would guess not much different from what they are now.) He continues, “but as costs begin to rise, the bureaucrats will intervene and newer protocols will begin to limit services to the more costly patients.”

    “Protocols might be revised to declare that certain cancer treatments are not appropriate for certain age groups or individuals with advanced cancers.”

    “This rationing of care by protocol will be supported by studies submitted by the Center for Comparative Research or the Nat’l Priorities for Performance Improvement, which are mandated in HR3200 and totally controlled by the Dept of HHS.” (And, we all know how much we can trust government studies!)

    Dr. “B’s” advice is simple and back to basics, the way it was before we had third parties paying for our healthcare – preventative measures – sleep, exercise, diet, supplements.

    Another article covering same:
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/138568.php

  20. BO has to go and so does all the other democrats in the house and senate. They are all destroying our country and lying and trying to sugar coat that gnarly death care plan and make is sound good. They are the worst ever. Barney Frank is a big dummy.

  21. Jacqlyn Smith…………………………………..

    How BF keeps getting re elected is real easy. His benefactors are those who indulge themselves in the same well known life style. There are lots of these deviates around us. These people have a very basic flawed mentality, a perfect example of which is BF.

  22. I see the BF mentality in Soetoro as well. He too has involved himself in deviate conduct. Attested to by Larry Sinclair.

  23. Linda from NY

    OT…When Will a National Voter Fraud Investigation of ACORN Begin?

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/when_will_a_national_voter_fra.html

  24. I’m not a Rush fan but there is more info over at AT about the hit job – http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/

  25. Patriot Dreamer

    JustMe // October 16, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    WHAT ELSE WAS BURIED IN THE STIMULUS PACKAGE?
    ****************************************
    JustMe, here’s what else was hidden in the stimulus:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/death_panel_is_not_in_the_bill.html

  26. Linda from NY

    CW: This one’s for your file…bad thing is he was re-elected in 2008…hard to get rid of him in 2010…dang!

    The Seduction Of Lindsey Graham

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/the_seduction_of_lindsey_graha_1.html

  27. We need to find a concrete way of keeping deviates out of government service. They are prone to blackmail,and a host of conlficting interests that are not in keeping with the highest standards of government.You can’t have it both ways. Either we weed them out, and have better government, or we let them in, and have COMPROMISED government.

  28. See this video made on the 9th of July, 2009, documenting the discovery of the June 27th, 2004 article published in Kenya in the Sunday Standard. Over the last couple years the Obama Team has been trying to purge the net world-wide to hide the evidence that his birth in Hawaii was falsely REGISTERED as occurring there by his maternal grandmother, simply to get her new grandson U.S. citizenship at the time, since it was easy to do in Hawaii back then. Only a simple mail-in form was needed to be filled out. Born at home, no witnesses, she signs it and mails it in. Wallah, Obama is now an American citizen with a U.S. birth record. A falsified one but yet still a record. Now years later the Hawaii database spits out computer data that he was born there. He was not born in the USA. Only his birth was registered in the USA, falsely. Where was Obama really born. Watch this video of a news story published in Kenya on June 27th, 2004, long before Obama was running for President and when he had no need to cover up his Kenyan birth which his maternal step-grandmother and other family in Kenya know about so well and have proclaimed themselves until shut down by threats from the Kenyan government at the behest of Obama.

    Obama Kenyan Born Video showing June 2004 newspaper story.

    Write to the courts and judges and mainstream media investigative reporters and tell them to start doing their jobs to support and defend the constitution of the United States. The DNC led Congress has been complicit in this cover up. Nancy Pelosi and others down there in the Progressive Caucus should be put in jail for their part in this cover up. Take pen and hand and write to the Judges and to people who you think can be “woken up” about this. Get this to Glenn Beck.

    http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/marshall.html

    RJ

  29. OldSalt,

    It’s getting so bad that even the school districts are knee deep in the graft. These ACORN tentacles are everywhere. Here’s a fascinating documentary posted on OFI today:

    http://www.thecartelmovie.com/

  30. Kim // October 16, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Hi Kim,

    JustMe posted that article from The Atlantic on either Wednesday or Thursday…it’s a goodie and spot on, I think.

    I did reply to JustMe, so if you go to CWs post entitled ‘Leo Haffey, Latest News….’ dated October 15, 2009 with 169 comments, my post is at 8:16PM.

    That was the most definitive article I’ve ever seen on the subject!

  31. JustMe // October 16, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Hi JustMe,

    Yeah, I’m sure some were aware of this but it came to me from a colleague, so I don’t know where he was digging. I’m not a reader of Alex Jones, but maybe he is!

    The bottom line, I think, is that they’re here conducting not-so-covert operations, but I wonder how many more are involved with exercises and drills in Small Town, U.S.A. that we never hear about?

  32. Captain Steve

    More proof of a coordinated Obama citizenship/background cover-up, and the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper is part of it.

    For days I’ve been posting the following news article where Tammy Duckworth, who claimed to know Obama well (and now on the payroll), says Obama was born in Indonesia.

    The article states (14th paragraph),

    “Both were born outside the country — Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand — and graduated from high school in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively.”

    The original article and quote can be seen here.

    http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Duckworth+working+to+win&fr=yfp-t-701&u=the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html&w=duckworth+working+work+works+win+won&d=GM0H2929Tkdh&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=RBXQUMEsLQaizrysuDCulg

    But in the last day or so (Oct 16,2009) the Honolulu Advertiser scrubbed it clean. That quote has been removed. They sanitized article. The new sanitized cover-up version can be seen here.

    http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html

    How is it that our “history” can be so easily re-written? I remember when we used to criticize the USSR for re-writing their history to suit their political desires. We are doing it in America NOW!!

    People need to be screaming bloody murder. Write to everybody you know. Let them know we’re not going to take this anymore!

  33. JeffM……………………………
    For decades our public schools cesspool has been dominated by Democrats,a big percentage of whom are left liberals. This is but one reason why our public schools are now “BLACKBOARD JUNGLES”. Another reason for the deterioration in our public schools is that teacher quality has steadily diminished. Last but not least is the lunatic administration of our public schools;an example of which we recently witnessed relating to the Cub Scout with a SPORK for show and tell. Until such time as we weed out the lunatics,the perverts, and just plain jackasses our schools will continue to deteriorate.

  34. Thanks Linda.
    The idea is to begin keeping an eye on congressmen and holding them accountable
    leading into and beyond the 2010 elections.
    No more status quo and carte blanche for Congress.

  35. Sue K,

    I follow Jones only occasionally. I check his guest list and listen accordingly.

    An interesting thing is happening now, though. I see things appearing in main pubs that are exactly what he had researched and reported on months back. Revelations to some, old news to others.

    I know many folks have had a hard time coming to grips with what is occurring right under our noses. When I first became aware, my brain just didn’t want to “go there.” I had many sleepless nights and spent hours researching what I’d heard, just knowing I would find it just wasn’t true. But, it was true. Now I’m past that point, and nothing surprises me any longer.

    If there is a silver lining in any of this, it’s the people are engaged again.

    Thanks for your research. I look forward to hearing what else you’ve uncovered.

  36. Captain Steve // October 16, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Interesting…..

    Sadly, we’ve been engaged in rewriting our history for years at very high levels.

  37. CW……………………….
    Good idea. Perhaps if we apply enough heat to our Congressmen’s PAWS they might be a little less inclined to follow the leader, and start acting like Congressmen. I think you are dead on the mark.

  38. Fight breaks out at City Hall Meeting.

  39. Linda from NY-
    Irritated republicans.
    Angry conservatives.
    Ron Paul libertarians.
    Registered independents.
    Disaffected democrats.
    Angry Medicare seniors.
    Disillusioned Jews.
    And drum roll:
    Conservative youth (18-26).
    Consider this-this is a huge group that they will never, ever get back. One lie would have done it. The Obama regime committed several thousand lies.

  40. Interesting essay on Lew Rockwell’s site.

    An Imperial Strategy for a New World Order: The Origins of World War III

    ….Now that both the American empire and global political economy are in decline and collapse, the prospect of a violent end to the American imperial age is drastically increasing.

    Entire essay viewed here:
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/marshall3.1.1.html

  41. JustMe // October 16, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Hi JustMe,

    I might want to check in with Alex on occasion; I just hate to see anyone on our side having pi*sing contests with anyone else.

    I understand where you’re coming from and there have been several revelations on my end, too. You just want to ignore it and continue with your life…until you start to think about it. Many things have happened that have jarred me out of my complacency and you’re right-it’s starting to shake people out of theirs, too. I never gave a flying fig about politics until recently.

    I pray that we have a mass awakening very soon; I hope it’s not too late.

    We’ll continue to dig next week.

  42. The South……………………………….
    Hey Bud, I wasn’t able to figure out what the fight was about. Can you enlighten me a little?

  43. See this new post at TheBirthers.org regarding how the discovery of the article in the June 27th, 2004 East African Standard newspaper was found, complete with video. Teo the Bear was doing some volunteer interent research for Atty Apuzzo, and the Kerchner v Obama & Congress lawsuit, to help document an evidence find for their lawsuit. Teo the Bear made a video of this on July 9th, 2009. He has now uploaded it to YouTube since it is all out in the wild now anyway.

    http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/June2004.html

    http://www.thebirthers.org/

    Good job Teo the Bear. You are a true patriot. And keep up the good work with your TheBirthers.org website.

    RJ

  44. This thought came to mind this AM:

    W A R N I N G: AMERICA is not here for MUCH LONGER:
    Lieberal/Progressive/Lefty EROSION is bringing on the TAKEOVER.

    Immigrants of old came here to do a “makeover” with USA’s Help.
    “Immigrants” of now are here to do a TAKEOVER with USA’s Help.

    Soon racism, left – right or black – white will be meaningless BECAUSE.

    CAIR, LA RAZA and ACORN conspiring to Destroy and TAKEOVER USA
    The Islamization and Mexicanation of AMERICA is HERE.

  45. BY THE WAY please anyone show me in the Constitution or USA LAWS where it is illegal to be a RACIST?

    Being a Racist is Protected by the CONSTITUTION.

    The only thing that is outlawed is Racist Acts which would be illegal acts against anyone.

    Being a Racist is LEGAL and by the way most all people are RACEISTS…..if they weren’t they would not be normal. If you were in a desert someowhere with a Iranian, North Korean and an American who would you most likelly ally with? See Racism is NATURAL and not illegal. ONLY RACIST ACTS ARE ILLEGAL.

    Listen to RUSH NOW:
    RUSH RULES with TRUTH and Erosionist Lieberal Obamunists FEAR TRUTH.

  46. Requirements for Senator:
    You must be at least at the age of 30 years old, and you must have been a U.S. citizens for at least 9 years.Resident of the state he/she will represent.

  47. Good afternoon all,

    I’m just catching up and wanted to add something. As much as we would all love to have O’bummer taken out of the WH in cuffs, sadly, it looks like it may take a while. I sure hope it happens sooner than later, but at the rate things are going now … ????

    We are all thinking about 201o and how we are going to clean house. I agree. BUT … we HAVE to get the youth involved. I worry that they’re ( Democrats) worried too and they will have their little “Community Organizers” out in full force. They, Demorats, know we’re going to come out in huge numbers next year and I think they will be preparing for it. So we need to start talking to the youth. Get on Facebook, Twitter, etc…. let’s start informing the youth.

    I mentioned the other day that as often as I can, I bring up politics with the young adults that I run into. At the local drug store, the bag boys / girls at the grocery store, etc… Engage them in conversation and see what they are thinking. I’m happy to say that I have run into a lot that consider themselves “The Young Republicans”. I give them a big smile and a high five! ( And I’m a registered Dem! For now! )

    As we plan to switch it up next year, let’s please remember the young voters and get them involved.

    When they tell me they are researching and listening, etc… I say to them … Be sure to tell your friends

    Before the election when talking to the ones who were voting for McCain, I would tell them to be sure to fill their car up with a lot of friends and they all go out and vote.

    I make sure to tell them how proud I am of them. I usually get a big smile back!

    I keep stressing to them …. do your research!

  48. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/16/debacle_in_moscow_98741.html

    Krauthammer – a review of Obama’s foreign policy accomplishments. It’s actually worse than zero, he has set the country so far back, it may not be recoverable at this point.

  49. TO:
    The South // October 16, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Fight breaks out at City Hall Meeting.
    ============

    Better Video and full story. The yellow shirt guy is teh one that instigated the fight and the guy in red shirt was actingin self defense the VIDEO PROVES it.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/zyvek#p/p

  50. venice:–

    Mission Accomplished for Obama — destroy and/or damage America as much as possible before he’s tossed out!

  51. Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 1:10 pm
    OT…When Will a National Voter Fraud Investigation of ACORN Begin?
    ================================

    ACORN has been investigated by the U.S. House of Representatives and was found to be engaged in systematic fraud. Citizenwells previously had thread on this at

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/acorn-voter-fraud-obama-us-house-of-representatives-report-voter-registration-fraud-widespread-deceit-and-corruption-committee-on-oversight-and-government-reform/

    Unfortunately the only links to the document were scrubbed. If you can locate a copy, you will be appalled. Congress does nothing even though they have cause to stop funding ACORN forever.
    —————————————
    U.S. House of Representatives
    Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) has repeatedly and deliberately engaged in systemic fraud. Both structurally and operationally, ACORN hides behind a paper wall of nonprofit corporate protections to conceal a criminal conspiracy on the part of its directors, to launder federal money in order to pursue a partisan political agenda and to manipulate the American electorate.

    Emerging accounts of widespread deceit and corruption raise the need for a criminal investigation of ACORN. By intentionally blurring the legal distinctions between 361 tax-exempt and non-exempt entities, ACORN diverts taxpayer and tax-exempt monies into partisan political activities. Since 1994, more than $53 million in federal funds have been pumped into ACORN, and under the Obama administration, ACORN stands to receive a whopping $8.5 billion in available stimulus funds.

    READ MOORE…….

    Click to access 20090723ACORNReport.pdf

    http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=616

    Look for:
    U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM
    Is ACORN Intentionally Structured as a Criminal Enterprise? July 23, 2009

    I downloaded the 88 page pdf document if you can’t find it anywhere.

  52. Who is this flippin moron? The BC is real cause Factcheck says so. This guy is an idiot. I didn’t watch the entire video .. no need to, but I read a few comments. Seems that most that commented say about the same thing … ‘it’s a fake and you’re a moron’ !!

  53. Val,

    Wonderful comment.

    I teach in a large urban school system; and I am white. I bring up the dynamics of the 2008 election cycle whenever possible. Also, up until the general election – especially during the primaries – I posted comments on college newspapers.

    Students are amenable to hearing the truth, as long as facts are couched as facts; and opinions are kept to oneself.

  54. oldsalt77 // October 16, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Don’t leave out the communist/liberal leaning companies responsible for creationg/publishing the curriculum placed in the clasrooms.

  55. Val,

    getting youth involved….

    \\\\\\

    you are spot on, and my hat is off to you.

    I’ve heard Ron Paul, in numerous interviews, express this very thing. He, perhaps to his surprise, has been well received by college campuses, and surprised at how informed some young adults are. This is the audience he says needs to be targeted, especially given the plans “O” has in store for them.

    It’s also evident in the recent shows Beck has had with moms.

    They don’t have the same preconceived notions that adults do simply because they haven’t “lived” life yet. Their brains are a blank canvas.

  56. Val-
    “And I’m a registered Dem! For now!” so am I, can you believe us Dems recruiting for the young Republicans, since we are going to vote that way ourselves. This wacked out wing of the Democratic party needs to go and fast. The rest of the party should have stood up to them, not go along with their nit-wit totalitarian tactics.

  57. oldsalt77 // October 16, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Don’t leave out the communist/liberal leaning companies responsible for creating/publishing the curriculum placed in the classrooms.

    repeated with corrected spellings…I did win spelling bees, just have arthritis little bit!

  58. The federal government of the united states is guilty of treason.

    Obama is not legitimate, they all know it, and they have known it for a long time.

    Articles such as the one describing “Kenyan born Obama” being scrubbed and buried is an OUTRAGE!

    I want the people complicit in this “vast conspiracy”, including Barack Obama, Barney Frank, and everyone who voted in congress that Obama was born in Hawaii charged with treason and the united states and conspiracy to commit treason against the united states.

    The employees of the federal government and the mainstream media who are participating in this OVERTHROW of the constitution are felonious criminals of the MOST DESPICABLE SORT, they are turncoats.

    It is time for them to face the music.

  59. Patriot Dreamer

    We also need to help people understand the conflict of interest with FactCheck.org. FactCheck.org and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge are both programs of the Annenberg Foundation. The Annenberg Foundation placed BO in charge of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Yet, FactCheck.org claimed to be “independent”.

  60. citizenwells // October 16, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Thanks Linda.
    The idea is to begin keeping an eye on congressmen and holding them accountable
    leading into and beyond the 2010 elections.
    No more status quo and carte blanche for Congress.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What good are watchdogs when the votes can be tampered and abused; without honest elections, we’re back to square 1.
    The one most thing that bothered me about the last election was having my vote stolen; not being a HRC supporter, I still understood all the illegal actions surrounding her sabotage affected every citizen in this nation.

  61. Val-that video infomercial must be old most of the information has been disproved.

  62. WOO HOO!!!!

    Judge Halts Flu Vaccine Mandate For Health Workers New York Health Care Employees Won’t Be Forced To Get H1N1 Vaccine…

    Article here:
    http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/mandatory.h1n1.vaccine.2.1252672.html

  63. Linda from NY

    Michelle: @2:08 They left out the “unaffiliated” or “no party” people. They, too, are disgusted, and will not be supporting the leftist agenda. There are more of us [me] than you might imagine. Many die-hard Dems left the party after the Rules and By Laws Committee debacle, and will not return. Some registered as Reps, some as Indies, and some as “No Party.” These are the voters that are targeted by both parties and are sometimes termed as “swing voters.”

    This group of voters will be the ones, I think, that may coalesce into a “Third Party.”

    The people we need to watch, though, are the Working Families Party members. They are ACORN in a nutshell!

  64. Patriot Dreamer

    JJ // October 16, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    What good are watchdogs when the votes can be tampered and abused; without honest elections, we’re back to square 1.

    The one most thing that bothered me about the last election was having my vote stolen; not being a HRC supporter, I still understood all the illegal actions surrounding her sabotage affected every citizen in this nation.
    ****************************************
    Exactly. Electronic voting machines can be hacked, very quickly and easily.

  65. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    IMO, a third party would be a mistake right now. What we need to do is marginalize BO’s power. What a third party would likely do, I’m afraid, is siphon off votes. The likely result of that would be to keep the current balance of power in Congress.

    I’m not against third parties in general, but I think that now is not the time.

  66. Linda from NY

    JJ: The polling places have to be closely watch by the “White, Green, and Blue” Panthers…lol

    What we need to do is make sure our polling “machines” have a paper trail.

    I think there is a group that is working on ensuring the integrity of the vote, but I haven’t been able to find any information about them. Can anyone help? Please…Thank You.

    We need to “fix” this, too, IMHO.

  67. Jonah.
    I have a copy of the US House report on ACORN

  68. Oldsalt77.

    I’m not exactly sure, but it looks like things just got heated up in that town hall, and one guy yelled at the other, and the fight broke out.

  69. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.76196516c169324ccab7851697322dbf.61&show_article=1

    This pseudo “us” and “them” is quite nauseating. Murdoch is so much in the thick of what is happening in this administration.

  70. Jack.
    Charles Kerchner sent me a copy of the video.
    My first download this AM did not work properly.
    I have redownloaded and now YouTube is very slow in processing.

  71. ATTENTION: A new Kenyan Born article on FR- I tried to save it by was not allowed to already, see if someone here can.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2364102/posts

  72. Linda from NY-Thanks for further info. Obama keeps digging a larger whole for himself. I swear the only ones he has left are the die-hards, and those on his patronage (blood money). If the DNC is not careful very fast like within a week, he will take the entire party down with him, not that they don’t deserve to go. At the rate Obama is going Democrat will be synonymous with leper.

  73. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer: I agree about the siphoning of votes, but both parties are fractured IMHO. The Reps might pull off a turnaround in Congress in 2010 with the help of all of the groups the article identified, but the Reps are having a hard time “finding their voice” and coalescing around a “Leader.” As of today, they have no “Leader.”

    While Palin may be popular with the people, she is not popular with her own party. And yet, she wants to support candidates from both parties. As far as the “other” possibilities are concerned, who would the Conservative wing of the Republican Party support?

  74. **** New Post ****

  75. http://rules.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=InNews.MajorityNews&ContentRecord_id=3e71e6d6-7e9c-9af9-7ae0-c5e1a6bdfb28&Region_id=&Issue_id=
    The Ballot Integrity Act of 2007 provides new safeguards to prevent errors and tampering at the polls, requires states to use voting systems with voter-verified paper records subject to public manual audits in the 2010 federal elections, takes steps to help increase the turnout in federal elections, and ensures that voters are not denied the right to vote by faulty purges of voting rolls.

  76. Jack.
    I have. Thanks.

  77. Linda from NY

    Michelle: The die-hards who belonged to the Democratic Party for 20-40 years are the ones who left the party. Some of them became PUMAS, crossed over, and voted for McCain/Palin.

    PP has hijacked the Democratic Party; it is no longer what it used to be since he opened the Party Office in Chicago. His supporters will either keep supporting him or “jump ship.”

    Maybe, it is time you officially left the party and became “unaffiliated.”

    Just saying…

  78. Patriot Dreamer

    Linda, I don’t know, but right now I’m thinking about what can be done to marginize BO’s power and his ability to push through legislation. One thing that needs to be done is to win at least one house of Congress. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, so by taking over the House, that means taking over the power of the purse. It’s a start.

  79. Linda from NY

    Michelle: @3:33 Thanks for posting that info. Makes me feel soooooo much better!

  80. http://www.repubx.com/ I know my old buddies in Chicago, this could start a few fights.
    [link to http://www.showdowninchicago.org]
    Unlike the NON-millions (yeah, right) that protested in Washington over a month ago, here’s another that’s geared up to be JUST as big, if not BIGGER. This event ‘could’ have a lingering impact, as the webbots have suggested ~ it’s in Chicago and who knows what might happen?
    Take America back from the banks
    Dean Baker [link to http://www.silverbearcafe.com]
    Reining in the financial industry’s power and greed will be a long, hard-fought war. But it is one that must be fought
    The elites hate to acknowledge it, but when large numbers of ordinary people are moved to action, it changes the narrow political world where the elites call the shots. Inside accounts reveal the extent to which Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon’s conduct of the Vietnam war was constrained by the huge anti-war movement. It was the civil rights movement, not compelling arguments, that convinced members of the US Congress to end legal racial discrimination. More recently, the town hall meetings dominated by people opposed to healthcare reform have been a serious roadblock for those pushing reform.
    Those disgusted by the bank bailouts, and the bankers who brought us this recession, will have a chance to make their views known when the American Bankers Association has its annual meeting in Chicago this month. A large coalition of labour, community and consumer organisations are organising a protest at this “Showdown in Chicago”. (October 25th!)

  81. Linda from NY

    Patriot Dreamer: Agree…marginalizing is the key. We definitely have our work cut out for us to curb this Fraud who has hijacked our WH!

    We also need to “weed” out the “Corrupt Congress-Critters” while we’re at it!

  82. Jack-Prairie-I copy/pasted as fast as I could.
    General News
    News | Sports | Entertainment | Nigeria Films | LifeStyle | Blogs | References
    AMERICANS DECIDE TODAY. GO OBAMA!
    By AP – newtimesonline.com
    Tue, 04 Nov 2008 | Print | E-Mail | PDF | Graphics Version
    Americas
    Normal 0 MicrosoftInternetExplorer4
    After almost two years of campaigning, Democrat candidate Barrack Obama, Republican, John McCain yesterday brought their train to a halt in their respective home states to await the verdict of Americans.
    So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .
    A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.
    Even though Senator Obama leads in all polls, unlike in other countries, aside of winning the popular votes, a presidential candidate would have to win a minimum of 270 out of the 538 Electoral College votes to ascend to the throne.
    Each state has a certain number of electors who elect the president depending on the size of the state.
    And so far, Barrack Obama has a lead of 146 as against 101 for McCain in the Electoral College.
    These were the figures from the strongholds of the Democrats and Republican respectively.
    Additionally, over 220 other Electoral College voters are leaning towards the Democrats while a little over 50 show a penchant towards the Republicans.
    Apart from the CQ polls, four other polls put the dmocratic senator ahead of his republican rival. And in all the polls, his rival trails him.
    The most favourable poll to the Republican was the one done by the New York Times, in which he had 163 college votes.
    In spite of the polls that clearly put his rival ahead him, the Republican candidate still believes that he can pull a surprise in today’s election.
    At the wrap up campaigns across the country before ending up at the State of Arizona , Senator John McCain is hopeful to pull a surprise.
    Americans will vote in what amounts to 51 separate elections in each state and the District of Columbia . Each state is allocated electoral votes based on the size of its representation in Congress. Whoever gets 270 electoral votes wins the White House.
    While Obama has many combinations of states that he can use to get to 270, McCain’s path is narrow. He has been mostly racing around states Bush won in 2004 trying to defend them while hoping to nab traditionally Democratic Pennsylvania.
    In Congressional elections on Tuesday, Democrats appeared poised to make gains in their majorities in both the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate. All 435 House seats are at stake and 35 of the Senate’s 100 seats are up for election.

  83. So lots of articles now that OB is Kenyan born. Very good. What can be done about it? What are the next steps?

  84. Jacqlyn Smith

    Prairie….is this what you want???

    http://www.modernghana.com/news2/189461/1/americans-decide-today-go-obama.html

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    AMERICANS DECIDE TODAY. GO OBAMA!
    By AP – newtimesonline.com
    Tue, 04 Nov 2008 | Print | E-Mail | PDF | Graphics Version
    Americas

    Normal 0 MicrosoftInternetExplorer4

    After almost two years of campaigning, Democrat candidate Barrack Obama, Republican, John McCain yesterday brought their train to a halt in their respective home states to await the verdict of Americans.

    So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .

    A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.

    Even though Senator Obama leads in all polls, unlike in other countries, aside of winning the popular votes, a presidential candidate would have to win a minimum of 270 out of the 538 Electoral College votes to ascend to the throne.

    Each state has a certain number of electors who elect the president depending on the size of the state.

    And so far, Barrack Obama has a lead of 146 as against 101 for McCain in the Electoral College.

    These were the figures from the strongholds of the Democrats and Republican respectively.

    Additionally, over 220 other Electoral College voters are leaning towards the Democrats while a little over 50 show a penchant towards the Republicans.

    Apart from the CQ polls, four other polls put the dmocratic senator ahead of his republican rival. And in all the polls, his rival trails him.

    The most favourable poll to the Republican was the one done by the New York Times, in which he had 163 college votes.

    In spite of the polls that clearly put his rival ahead him, the Republican candidate still believes that he can pull a surprise in today’s election.

    At the wrap up campaigns across the country before ending up at the State of Arizona , Senator John McCain is hopeful to pull a surprise.

    Americans will vote in what amounts to 51 separate elections in each state and the District of Columbia . Each state is allocated electoral votes based on the size of its representation in Congress. Whoever gets 270 electoral votes wins the White House.

    While Obama has many combinations of states that he can use to get to 270, McCain’s path is narrow. He has been mostly racing around states Bush won in 2004 trying to defend them while hoping to nab traditionally Democratic Pennsylvania.

    In Congressional elections on Tuesday, Democrats appeared poised to make gains in their majorities in both the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate. All 435 House seats are at stake and 35 of the Senate’s 100 seats are up for election.

  85. Don’t forget the census! That is an important factor for the election.

  86. Patriot Dreamer

    Kim @3:58 pm,

    Absolutely! BO and friends are counting on it! The census + amnesty.

  87. Linda from NY

    Kim: Good Point! Thanks.

    Does anyone know who will be responsible for taking the census now that ACORN was fired?

  88. Linda from NY-I am going to keep registered as Democrat for the following reasons: It will skew their numbers (they will think they have a lot more supporters than they do have). I can get the campaign “garbage” not send any money, and send it back marked “usurper”, just to tick them off and let them know that we know. One of the girls at work got ticked before the national election and registered as an independent here in Florida and found out she couldn’t vote in the primaries. Guilt-by association-we tried after the DNC-Hillary debacle to alert the nation. The scary part for us was if they could do that to someone in their own party what would they do to the rest of the nation. They are UGLY. I really believe in my heart of hearts this is the end of the Democratic party, suicide by Obama.

  89. Linda from NY-glad you liked the post about the new election laws. Everyone who goes to the polls will be on alert.
    Remember that article that I sent over twice from Orly’s that was on Free Republic re: the person was sending from out of the country about all these stories bubbling up in Oct. looks like it coming true. I’m thinking frustrated reporters who were threatened/intimidated and are sending when/how they can. What do you think?

  90. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Re: Party change. Good strategy! I signed up for info at Hillary’s website to follow her historic campaign. Now I get info from her replacement, Gillibrand, Chucky, and Kerry. It keeps me informed of what they are doing, and I get a good laugh from their lame arguments.

    I read many stories on a PUMA site from people who were getting solicitations from the DNC, and what they did with those solicitations. They had some innovative ideas about informing them they were not going to support their nonsensical party or their “selected” candidate!

  91. Linda from NY

    Michelle: I think this has been the busiest October evah! We get new information every day, and it is heart-warming to see how many people are “rising to the occasion,” “speaking out,” and sharing information.

    This blog, in particular, is jam packed full of great researchers and information. Everyone has something to offer even if it is just their opinion. So nice to be conversing with you here, too!

    Thanks for all you do, Michelle!

  92. Linda from NY-I became a PUMA immediately. They are on it that’s for sure. Republicans are attacking from their side, but Dems are doing it but in a totally different way. I love what PUMA stands for– unity to what. I don’t think so. Unified in taking Obama and crooks down that’s about it.

  93. Why you won’t find the screwed-up remark by aka obama?

    Thom
    C-Span update…you won’t see it from the video’s that are at C-Span, so don’t waste 3 hours looking at them…the video in question came from an ABC affiliate out of Chicago and C-Span aired the unedited video…a witness has come forward who watched the verbal exchange and says will sign an affidavit…
    The C-Span host read a statement from the Obama campaign right after the debate stating that what Obama said had nothing to do with his actual birth status…extradinary, they knew he screwed up and were already in damage control…
    I believe John Charlton is right, we need to know what the agreement was between the ABC affiliate and C-Span, who the ABC affilitate is, the people working the broadcast the day it aired…
    I’m also pretty sure that C-Span has an archive of this and the ABC affiliate still has the tape…is it just me or does anyone else think that the “reasonable cause” bar has been reached for our national level investigative organizations to secure some search warrants for information (electronic and human witnesses) and the ABC affilicate in Chicago? Just sayin…

  94. Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    IMO, a third party would be a mistake right now. What we need to do is marginalize BO’s power. What a third party would likely do, I’m afraid, is siphon off votes. The likely result of that would be to keep the current balance of power in Congress.

    I’m not against third parties in general, but I think that now is not the time.
    ****************
    Thanks…….proof is only as far away as the last election records, flawed as much as that election was.

  95. JJ
    ABC Affiliate in Chicago is WLS, they have been around forever.

  96. Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    JJ: The polling places have to be closely watch by the “White, Green, and Blue” Panthers…lol

    What we need to do is make sure our polling “machines” have a paper trail.

    I think there is a group that is working on ensuring the integrity of the vote, but I haven’t been able to find any information about them. Can anyone help? Please…Thank You.

    We need to “fix” this, too, IMHO.
    ****************************
    I think every vote needs a receipt…..AND ONLY AFTER EXPLICIT PROOF OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP.

  97. JJ-You could try Carol Marin who has been doing investigative journalism for a long time in Chicago, she was doing GroveParc
    Carol Marin ::
    Sunday, October 11, 2009
    Law keeps CPS in the dark on at-risk youths
    In 2002, the notorious “king” of the Vice Lords, Willie Lloyd, talked with Sun-Times reporters Frank Main and Carlos Sadovi.
    http://www.suntimes.com/news/marin/index.html or she might be able to steer you in the right direction.

  98. Linda from NY

    JJ: Patriot Dreamer said that @ 3:15 PM…not me… even though this is my past belief.

    I would love to see a third party rise from the ashes of the last election, especially since I believe both parties are presently fractured. However, those who would tend toward joining a third party are fractured as well…they are comprised of those who have rejected both parties and are not necessarily a cohesive group IMHO.

  99. ATTENTION: A new Kenyan Born article on FR- I tried to save it by was not allowed to already, see if someone here can.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2364102/posts

    AMERICANS DECIDE TODAY. GO OBAMA!
    By AP – newtimesonline.com
    Tue, 04 Nov 2008 | Print | E-Mail | PDF | Graphics Version
    Americas

    Normal 0 MicrosoftInternetExplorer4

    After almost two years of campaigning, Democrat candidate Barrack Obama, Republican, John McCain yesterday brought their train to a halt in their respective home states to await the verdict of Americans.

    So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .

    A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.

    Even though Senator Obama leads in all polls, unlike in other countries, aside of winning the popular votes, a presidential candidate would have to win a minimum of 270 out of the 538 Electoral College votes to ascend to the throne.

    Each state has a certain number of electors who elect the president depending on the size of the state.

    And so far, Barrack Obama has a lead of 146 as against 101 for McCain in the Electoral College.

    These were the figures from the strongholds of the Democrats and Republican respectively.

    Additionally, over 220 other Electoral College voters are leaning towards the Democrats while a little over 50 show a penchant towards the Republicans.

    Apart from the CQ polls, four other polls put the dmocratic senator ahead of his republican rival. And in all the polls, his rival trails him.

    The most favourable poll to the Republican was the one done by the New York Times, in which he had 163 college votes.

    In spite of the polls that clearly put his rival ahead him, the Republican candidate still believes that he can pull a surprise in today’s election.

    At the wrap up campaigns across the country before ending up at the State of Arizona , Senator John McCain is hopeful to pull a surprise.

    Americans will vote in what amounts to 51 separate elections in each state and the District of Columbia . Each state is allocated electoral votes based on the size of its representation in Congress. Whoever gets 270 electoral votes wins the White House.

    While Obama has many combinations of states that he can use to get to 270, McCain’s path is narrow. He has been mostly racing around states Bush won in 2004 trying to defend them while hoping to nab traditionally Democratic Pennsylvania.

    In Congressional elections on Tuesday, Democrats appeared poised to make gains in their majorities in both the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate. All 435 House seats are at stake and 35 of the Senate’s 100 seats are up for election.

  100. Michelle: @3:33 Thanks for posting that info. Makes me feel soooooo much better!

    Me also, too, likewise, yeehah!!!

    Also, I read in Nashville paper after the election fiasco that Tennessee had asked for a little more time to install paper ballots initiatives and it floored me as I read that change-over.

  101. Keyes Barnett transcript now available:
    http://bit.ly/3Aq05z

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