Keyes V Obama, Orly Taitz, Update, October 5, 2009, Judge Carter, Santa Ana CA, Federal District Court, Giveusliberty1776 blog

Giveusliberty1776 blog is providing near real time updates on the Keyes V Obama lawsuit in Santa Ana CA, Federal District Court. Dr. Orly Taitz initiated the lawsuit.

From Giveusliberty1776, October 5, 2009, at approx 11:00 PST:

“US Marshalls have established added security due to the high profile nature of the case. All members of the audience are being logged in and recorded per the court.

Turnout for this hearing is less, approximately 100 people are in line for a seat in the courtroom.

The hearing will begin at approximately 8:30. Justice Carter’s court is currently in session on a different case.

Under review today will be two items of critical concern. Defendant Obama’s 9/4/09 Motion to Dismiss is to receive final ruling to either allow or be thrown out. Once the MTD is thrown out, a ruling for full Discovery is anticipated from Justice Carter.

The Federal Marshalls have set up an auxiliary viewing room near the courtroom, live video feed will be shown in that room for any overflow crowd. Our reporter is assured of receiving a seat in the actual courtroom, and given the historical significance of this hearing, chooses to be in the main courtroom, thereby giving him access to off camera events and reactions.

To those who have thanked us for this coverage, you are more than welcome, we are at your service, as fellow free Americans.

8:36 am Pst- The audience has been seated, hopefully the hearing will only be 30 minutes to an hour and we should hear the findings. If the hearing lasts longer, a mid morning recess at the 2 hour mark usually takes place. (10:30 Pst) and that will be an opportunity for Gary to phone in.

10:12 am pst A commenter has asked if the case has been thrown out, I have NOT heard from Gary so the information can not be verified as accurate. Remember Obots like to play on the blogs

10:26 am Pst Not hearing from Gary is a good sign, after approximately 2 hours into the hearing. If as some have speculated the case was thrown out, it would not take 2 hours to rule in favor of Defendant Obama’s motion to dismiss, more like 15 minutes and Gary would have phoned that in long ago. Hang in there people.

10:37 am Pst We should be coming up on a court recess break shortly and will surely hear something. Thanks to all the commenters for searching around the blogosphere for the word. Here you WILL hear the truth, good or bad. But to this Texan, the up coming word must be good. Keep posting your comments

Steve”

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*** UPDATES ***

11:43 am Pst The ruling- Motion to Dismiss will undergo further review by Justice Carter. No order for discovery.

11:50 am Pst Gary reported the court is in recess and finished for the day. Intially Justice Carter was leaning to dismiss the case and accept Defendant’s MTD, however Orly Taitz and Gary Creeps made a very impassioned arguement and the gallery burst into applause, the Marshalls did not stop the outburst, and it was felt Justice Carter was swayed by the outburst to not throw out the MTD but rather reconsider his decision.

He advised both parties no matter his ruling, both would be able to appeal to a higher court.

459 responses to “Keyes V Obama, Orly Taitz, Update, October 5, 2009, Judge Carter, Santa Ana CA, Federal District Court, Giveusliberty1776 blog

  1. Never would I imagine this could be happening in America. A non Natural Born citizen sitting in OUR White House. Begging the Court system to answer to there Employers. Unbelieveable how much has changed since I was brought into this world.

  2. Jacqlyn Smith

    This is going on 4 hours now….Please dear LORD…give Judge Carter the fortitude and the courage to rule in favor of the Patriots!!! Thank you Lord!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

  3. Jacqlyn Smith

    Well at least it isn’t a total loss…keep praying…no motion to dismiss ruled on!!

  4. Jacqlyn Smith

    11:43 am Pst The ruling- Motion to Dismiss will undergo further review by Justice Carter. No order for discovery.

    Steve

  5. Bringing over from last thread

    Amy, what does this mean?

    #

    Amy // October 5, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    # Birther Update: Judge to consider papers and arguments from today’s hearing before issuing ruling. #birthers #eligibility #tcot #phnmless than 10 seconds ago from TweetDeck

    BREAKING Birther Hearing Concludes: NO RULING during hearing. #birthers @phnm #tcot #eligibilityhalf a minute ago from TweetDeck

  6. Jacqlyn , I have been praying for truth and justice. 🙂

  7. I do not understand what there is to review? His Father was not an American, therefore he is not a natural Born American Citizen.

  8. Judge Carter was inclined to DISMISS & then the applause and impassioned arguments of Kreep & Taitz swayed him to reconsider….bummer I thought he would bring on this case.

  9. I’ll bet that he didn’t want to cause chaos and throw our the case in front of the crowd. So he’ll just dismiss it “after review”…

    Can anyone tell me if that is NOT possible? Meaning, does it have to come back to court, or can he just decide this on his own time from the office and issue the ruling?

    Yes, I am pessimistic because we have seen this so many times before. And, to think that he would even consider throwing the case out makes me wonder how he could possibly believe in this cause?!

    ANYWAY, check this out:

    Obama wants to sympathize left and right and talk down the US abroad. Well, that’s biting him in the butt now. Notice the reaction to Chicago. They are laughing him off now because he is a leader that has devalued his own country!

    The more he takes away from the USA, the more he takes away from his own image in their eyes. He can’t have it both ways!!

  10. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  11. “He advised both parties no matter his ruling, both would be able to appeal to a higher court.”

    Well, there you go. His way of saying, “Not me! I’m not the one to decide this!” So then they can just appeal up to the same corrupt Supreme Court that shafted us the last time, and that’s it.

    Aaaagh, someone prove me wrong PLEASE!!!

  12. Riggler,

    You are right. The man’s a PUSSY. And he calls himself a veteran. Veteran of what? KP Duty?

  13. Jacqlyn Smith

    How can the plaintiffs on this case not have standing….this is more BS!!!

  14. Jacqlyn Smith,

    It’s simple. It’s called:

    PASS THE ACORN.

  15. Wait JS, he said they didn’t have standing??

    Can we get as transcript of this somewhere?

  16. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Riggler // October 5, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Wait JS, he said they didn’t have standing??

    Can we get as transcript of this somewhere?
    ******************************************

    I don’t know if he said it…but it was reported that way!

  17. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    JeffM // October 5, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith,

    It’s simple. It’s called:

    PASS THE ACORN.
    ***************************************

    You got that right!

  18. Just seen this as a comment on Leos Blog.

    SCOTUS denies another NBC case.

    Just in:

    08-10817
    CRAIG, STEVEN L. V. UNITED STATES
    The petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment is
    denied.

  19. Jacqlyn Smith

    Riggler…here’s what it says…

    Issues that plagued Orly’s case in Justice Carter’s mind, were STANDING and JURISDICTION-regarding Quo Warranto

    Quo Warranto must be filed in the Distrct of Columbia as a Writ against the government for Congress to address

    type in Quo Warranto in the search section of our blog- I have an article about it from previous writings

    More………….

    Steve

  20. Is there a time limit of this review? How long do we have to wait for him to grow a pair?

  21. Remember kids, no one has standing against the Usurper in Chief. No one except Ralph Nader that is. Or anyone who he tried to kill in the past 6 months.

    If I were Ralph I wouldn’t want to be in the White House either during this term! I’d take my chances in a Turkish Prison then have to deal with an angry mob of millions of U.S. Citizens demanding where their money went.

  22. When are they going to take the case(s) to the Superior Court of DC??

  23. Jacqlyn Smith

    The court of public opinion is the only court that will remove this FRAUD…..we must continue to not recognize the FRAUD for anything he does as POTUS and never say he is president….EVER!!!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keyes v Obama 10/05/09 Pt II
    Gary will be posting more about his take later this evening.

    His gut reaction- Justice Carter wants to pass this hot potatoe out of his courtroom. (I’m afraid that ex-marine’s knees buckled under pressure from above).

    Gary felt Carter wanted to rule against but the courts reaction to Orly’s and Kreep’s oration stayed his ruling for an in chambers review and ruling. It could come within 24 hours or several days.

    Orly will have that info up whenshe gets it.

    Our Congress will not rule on Quo Warranto, I was there in D.C. 9/11/09 talking to my Senators aides, they weren’t even sure what a Natural Born Citizen meant. We are under a Usurper I fear, unless God divines otherwise.

    Steve

  24. It’s Official: The United States of America is under a Dictatorship!

    The courts are defunct; Obama and the Saudis are taking over.

    There’s no other course of redress left. Can you hear the cold, dark music playing in the background yet?

  25. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    My question is, why hasn’t anybody filed a Quo Warranto in the District Court?

  26. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Kim // October 5, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    When are they going to take the case(s) to the Superior Court of DC??
    *******************************************

    Kim…I thought I heard that someone has a case in this court….wherever it is!!!

  27. The South,

    We’ve been under a democratic dictatorship since before we were born. Bush, Bush Sr., Clinton, even Reagan were all dictators. They abused their executive powers.

    This time it’s a little different because the usurper in chief is wielding power to satisfy overseas masters.

  28. Obama himself could walk into the Supreme Court and hand them a Kenyan birth certificate, and say, I give up, I was born in Kenya, and they would throw the evidence out.

    He could show up in court with a picture of him just born laying on a dirt floor in a hut in Kenya with Doctors standing over him, and the Supreme Court would throw out the evidence.

  29. btw, Alex and LofNY, thanks for more of Oblasphemy’s nicknames!

  30. JeffM.

    I hear ya!

  31. Well – at least he kept it alive…It is still mutable
    Pray for the judge. Think of the Light of Truth and Justice guiding him now…

  32. JS, isn’t his name Rod Glass? I think his case is under his middle name though.
    The Superior Court in DC is a constitutional court that follows the original constitution from what I understand. The people should have standing there.

  33. Truth Exists (Paulajal)

    I thought that Rod Glass has a different case there (not eligibility). Does anyone know?

  34. It is beyond time we storm the Supreme Court with Millions of Americans. A native or Natural Born, are those born in a Country to citizen Parents. A foreigner cannot produce a natural born American Citizen. How hard is that to understand????

  35. one more name

    PB = puppet boy

    check out the picture for this article

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15434

  36. Truth Exists,

    It is a different kind of case…I believe he was “testing” the court system there. The South was following it closely.

  37. Oh Ye of little faith. There will still be more court cases out there, do you think Americans are going to let Obama get away with this. What did Nixon in, in the end –The Court of Public Opinion. The Democrats hammered every day re: abuse of power, cover-ups etc. Obama has many, many major scandals out there waiting, and ticking. Now that more and more people are researching and reporting he will remain in a lame duck position. Don’t give up the ship.

  38. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/lady-liberty-before-carters-bench/

    LATEST FROM CHARLES LINCOLN’S SECRETARY,

    INTERVIEW BY THE P&EM JUST MINUTES AGO

  39. The South,

    I hate to say it but I believe you are correct. The courts have been blackmailed. Carter had a chance but he blew it big time.

    And when the time comes I fear he along with SCROTUS will disappear, never to be seen again. History will repeat itself. No one is safe from this tyranny.

  40. We should wait to hear from Orly before getting upset. After all it was just someone’s opinion that the judge was leaning towards dismissal. Right?

  41. Just a bit of a different perspective on this morning’s outcome from Post and E-mail. It doesn’t seem quite as dire as the earlier reports….

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

    RichardL

  42. What I don’t believe is that Quo Warranto is the only way we can get a court to look at this fraud. The court certainly looks at other Constitutional issues. To say that the courts cannot look at this destroys the whole idea of separation of powers.

  43. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Kim // October 5, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    JS, isn’t his name Rod Glass? I think his case is under his middle name though.
    The Superior Court in DC is a constitutional court that follows the original constitution from what I understand. The people should have standing there.
    *******************************************

    Is it corrupt too??? Does Orly know about this court??

  44. I’m praying for Orly’s success! All you patriot should watch this. You may enjoy it as much as I did. My sister just emailed it to me:

    http://www.bornagainamerican.org/index.html

  45. Kim wrote:

    ” // October 5, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    btw, Alex and LofNY, thanks for more of Oblasphemy’s nicknames!”

    You’re welcome. Right now I’d like to add:

    “O-SATAN’SLITTLEHELPER”!

  46. Make that “patriotS”

  47. Paulajal,

    There no longer is separation of powers. That’s what we’re seeing here. When 50+ plaintiffs come to a court, waste time and effort out of their day, ask a simple request for a simple answer to a simple question they deserve an answer to and get blown off, justice has failed.

    This case should have proceeded over a month ago. All the judge had to do was to allow the case, allow discovery, and all this would have ended. Instead, he merely passed the acorn.

    No we’re not giving up the ship, but we need to focus our energy on things that don’t revolve around the courts. That’s a dead end unless there is a small district judge in some conservative town that eats nails for breakfast who will allow this discovery to proceed.

  48. RichardL wrote:

    ” // October 5, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Just a bit of a different perspective on this morning’s outcome from Post and E-mail. It doesn’t seem quite as dire as the earlier reports….”

    Thank you, RichardL. Getting more perspective made me feel better!

    SUMMARY OF WHAT TOOK PLACE AT HEARING

    The Post & Email just spoke with a secretary of Mr. Charles Lincoln about the hearing, and publishes this summary:

    It was a long hearing from about 8:30 AM to 11:45 AM Pacific time, with only a 20 minute recess. More than 100 persons attended. There was an overflow room with video hookup to accomodate everyone.

    Judge David O. Carter issued no ruling on the Motion to Dismiss, nor to grant discovery. He cited his need to sort out the complex legal issues, consider all the arguments carefully.

    During the hearing the specific agenda disscussed was as follow (this is not in chronological order):

    Judge Carter denied Attorney Gary Kreep’s Motion for Severance, which would have created a parallel case, for his clients.

    Judge Carter questioned the Defense’s counsel, regarding the method of impeachment and how that would address this controversy.

    Attorney Gary Kreep argued that the case does not involve impeachment; since Obama has entered office unlawfully.

    Judge Carter questioned on what basis his court could issue a quo warrento proceeding, when the D.C. court had jurisdiction over this kind of proceeding. Dr. Orly Taitz responded by citing precedents in the 9th Circuit, that allowed quo warrento proceedings to be held in California, rather than in Washington, D.C., in account of the great distance to the other side of the continent.

    When questioned about the injury suffered by other candidates on the ballot in California, Attorney Kreep explained the injury they suffered and the Judge responded thoughtfully to his arguments.

    Regarding military plaintiffs, Judge Carter mentioned that there was a ruling in the 9th circuit which denied standing to oath takers on the basis that this was not a particularized injury.

    In all, Judge Carter was very concerned about standing claims and wanted to know what the actual injuries were, and how standing was being justified.

    The Defense argued that the Court had no authority to hear the case, and that claims were political in nature and therefore not for the Judiciary to adjudicate.

    Judge Carter pointed out that the case was unique and that there were no precedents to guide him thoroughly.

    The Post & Email will interview Mr. Charles Lincoln live, and post this in a separate report in about 3 hours.

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/lady-liberty-before-carters-bench/

  49. Val // October 5, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Val — These were update tweets from ‘tesibria’.
    http://twitter.com/tesibria
    ~Amy

  50. From what I understand we lost standing when we all became 14th amendment citizens.

  51. JeffM, I’m afraid I totally agree with you (that’s why I gave up being a lawyer, I could’nt stomach it any more {even with winning my cases, it was sooooo corrupt!}). I kept thinking that if the general public only knew the truth…. Well, now many do.

  52. I took a second look at the sight for that video & it looks like an obama thing! I wouldn’t really have guessed it listening to the country music. That is very strange.

    http://www.bornagainamerican.org/index.html

  53. Linda from NY

    A former Marine would do no less than to meticulously prepare and weigh his decision based on the presentations to be sure nothing can be left open to false interpretation. I do not know why, but I think Judge Carter will be thorough in his contemplation and analysis. Surely, he knows and values the oath he took to uphold the Constitution. Perhaps, he also knows the serious ramifications of this Constitutional Crisis.

    Give the Judge some slack…whatever he decides ‘for’ or ‘against’ will help us proceed from here. He may have been taken aback by the applause, he may have been threatened [a possibility], and he may just have been sidetracked so he said, “Wait a minute; let me think about this further.” Stating either party can appeal his decision is standard operating procedure…not a punch in the gut to either side.
    Please try to remain positive; we have come so far from this time last year. Anything can happen; we learn just as much from our mistakes as we do from our successes. Americans do not give up or give in; they keep trying until the “victory” is theirs. We will find a way; please do not lose heart.

    Peace…Linda

  54. so: any changes in opinion as to the merits of Orly & Kreep working ‘together’ on this?

  55. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Linda from NY // October 5, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    A former Marine would do no less than to meticulously prepare and weigh his decision based on the presentations to be sure nothing can be left open to false interpretation. I do not know why, but I think Judge Carter will be thorough in his contemplation and analysis. Surely, he knows and values the oath he took to uphold the Constitution. Perhaps, he also knows the serious ramifications of this Constitutional Crisis.

    Give the Judge some slack…whatever he decides ‘for’ or ‘against’ will help us proceed from here. He may have been taken aback by the applause, he may have been threatened [a possibility], and he may just have been sidetracked so he said, “Wait a minute; let me think about this further.” Stating either party can appeal his decision is standard operating procedure…not a punch in the gut to either side.
    Please try to remain positive; we have come so far from this time last year. Anything can happen; we learn just as much from our mistakes as we do from our successes. Americans do not give up or give in; they keep trying until the “victory” is theirs. We will find a way; please do not lose heart.

    Peace…Linda
    *******************************************

    I totally agree Linda….that is what I was saying above…never recognize this man as your President…he is not….and never give up until the FRAUD is out of office…..this is why I never call him by name or prez….only as the FRAUD…I will never acknowledge him either way…..he deserves NO RESPECT!!!

  56. Linda from NY

    Re-Dude: Could this answer your question?

    “Judge Carter denied Attorney Gary Kreep’s Motion for Severance, which would have created a parallel case, for his clients.”

  57. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Re-do // October 5, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    so: any changes in opinion as to the merits of Orly & Kreep working ‘together’ on this?
    ********************************************

    I think Kreep asked about this but it was denied if I read it correctly!

  58. Linda from NY

    Hey Re-Dude: Did you get my message about sharing the “poem?” If not, you are most welcome to share what God has helped me create with your friend. Just make sure whatever you do with it, you give glory to He who helped me create it, please. Thanks.

  59. The standing here goes beyond the “oath takers” of a previous 9th circuit ruling. The standing is of those being wounded/killed NOW and with every possibility of being placed in harm’s way under this present “POTUS”, evidence of which is this month’s current and ongoing deaths in
    Afghanistan due to this CIC’s lack of decision to send reinforcements. If this isn’t standing for injury I don’t know what is. What does the judge want – dead soldiers to somehow appear before him?

  60. The quote that keeps coming back to me is from Rev. Manning-“The longer he remains in power, the harder it will be to remove him.”

  61. If it was true that Judge Carter WAS moved by the reaction of those in the courtroom, perhaps he would be moved, during his consideration, by waves of communication (faxs, emails, calls, etc.) to not delay any longer discovery that would deal with the merits which he seemed to have promised. He should be held to his implied desire to finally resolve the outstanding Constitutional questions. We need to help too. Anyone have the info for contact to Judge Carter specificially?

  62. The Right Side of Life » Affidavit Filed on Alleged Obama Kenyan

    A Mr. Glass speaks on the patriot heart radio show about this issue. He states that the only court that will hear cases and give standing if the lawsuit is properly termed a suit against the gov’t corporation is a little court on Indiana St. Washington D.C. called the Superior Court, … 09.12.09 DC Tea Party…
    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=7186

  63. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Observer // October 5, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    The standing here goes beyond the “oath takers” of a previous 9th circuit ruling. The standing is of those being wounded/killed NOW and with every possibility of being placed in harm’s way under this present “POTUS”, evidence of which is this month’s current and ongoing deaths in
    Afghanistan due to this CIC’s lack of decision to send reinforcements. If this isn’t standing for injury I don’t know what is. What does the judge want – dead soldiers to somehow appear before him?
    ******************************************

    What about a military person who recently was injured in Iraq or Afghanistan filing a suit….wouldn’t they have standing…especially if they were injured because the FRAUD didn’t give them enough resources like McCrystal is asking for. If we had another president like McCain who wants to send more troops maybe some of those military people wouldn’t be dead….wouldn’t these families have standing???

  64. Jacqlyn Smith wrote:

    ” // October 5, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    …never recognize this man as your President…he is not….and never give up until the FRAUD is out of office…..this is why I never call him by name or prez….only as the FRAUD…I will never acknowledge him either way…..he deserves NO RESPECT!!!”

    Precisely. We will NEVER GIVE UP, and we will NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT OBAMA’S INELIGIBILITY!

    Can you imagine how bad things got before the Revolutionary War, right before the Americans kicked the Brits’ @$$es out? Well, we TRUE AMERICANS are ready to go to the mat again, no matter what the traitors dish out!!

  65. Jacqlyn Smith

    Kim // October 5, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    The Right Side of Life » Affidavit Filed on Alleged Obama Kenyan

    A Mr. Glass speaks on the patriot heart radio show about this issue. He states that the only court that will hear cases and give standing if the lawsuit is properly termed a suit against the gov’t corporation is a little court on Indiana St. Washington D.C. called the Superior Court, … 09.12.09 DC Tea Party…

    *******************************************Maybe this is the court to file quo Warranto or maybe Orly needs to go there???

  66. A military friend once told me “I”ll go back to Iraq before I let Obama sign my discharge papers.” Could discharge papers signed by an unconstitutional CIC be challenged. Could the fear of false discharge serve as “damage.”

  67. It is my understanding that niether the president or his challenger, John McCain filed in time with the Texas Secretary of State in order to be on the ballot, but the Secretary of State at the time simply disregarded the requirment, and placed them both on the ballot.
    If that be true, would that not be a RICCO prospect? Regardless, perhaps taking a criminal complaint to a Grand Jury (bypassing a D.A. and going straight to a Grand Jury foreman) might be a way to have an indictment issued for falsifying a governmental record.
    Many states (such as Texas) make it a state jaul felony to make a false statement in a governmental record. If the documents presented by the Democrat Party have any false claims in them regasrding elligibility, perhaps approaching it from a criminal complaint directly to a Grand Jury in a state might be one approach to correcting any unlawful holding of an office. I am not a lawyer, so I don’t know if there is any illegal act that has occurred, but perhaps a Grand Jury might be the people to ask?

  68. JS, I sure wish someone would try.

  69. Special report: A parental revolt against the SEIU’s home invasion robbery

    Last month, I noted the appalling story about the SEIU’s power grab in Illinois to unionize home health care workers.

    But you haven’t heard the half of it. It’s an ongoing nightmare you should know about — because it may be coming to your own front door if Big Labor gets its way.

    Roughly 3,500 people in Illinois receive state funding to assist someone, usually a family member, at home with a developmental disability. In June, Democrat Gov. Pat Quinn signed an executive order approving collective bargaining by “individual providers of home-based support services” — effectively busting open the doors of private homes for the Purple Shirts of the SEIU and other union competitors hungry for new dues-paying members.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/05/special-report-a-parental-revolt-against-the-seius-home-invasion-robbery/

  70. Linda from NY

    Observer: It is my understanding “Standing” and “Injury” are important considerations in any litigation geared toward making the “injured” party “whole” again. Obviously, we need to prove both to the satisfaction of the court. How we prove that and how we justify it is tantamount to “discovery.” These two arguments or justifications seem to re-appear over and over which leads me to believe we are missing something…what, I do not know. But, I do believe “we won’t back down” without a fight and maybe, we have just begun to fight.
    I am hoping Judge Carter will put himself in the shoes of our military who have standing and will suffer the ultimate injury in service of their country under the ineptitude of the usurper. I pray he will stand with them and rule against the fraud.

    http://quowarranto.wordpress.com/

    Quo Warranto
    Posted July 20, 2008 by constitutionalism
    Categories: Uncategorized

    The common law writ of quo warranto has been suppressed at the federal level in the United States, and deprecated at the state level, but remains a right under the Ninth Amendment which was understood and presumed by the Founders, and which affords the only judicial remedy for violations of the Constitution by public officials and agents. Here are a few writings on the subject. Revival of the writs must be combined with reviving standing for private prosecution of public rights, subverted by the decision in Frothingham v. Mellon, 262 U.S. 447 (1923), which is discussed in an article by Steve Winter, The Metaphor of Standing and the Problem of Self-Governance.

    Although some of these writings are copyrighted, we are assured that all the chapters of all the ones still copyrighted have been attached to pleadings in various cases, and thus made part of the public record, thereby putting them into the public domain.

    A critical key to achieving federal constitutional compliance is to resurrect quo warranto and other common law writs. This involves reasserting and strengthening the original All-Writs Act and repealing or declaring unconstitutional legislation, such as the Anti-Injunction Act, and those Rules of Judicial Procedure, that have restricted the jurisdiction of federal courts to accept petitions for these writs and grant a fair hearing (”oyer”) and a decision on the merits (”terminer”) on such petitions.

  71. Jacqlyn Smith: What about a military person who recently was injured in Iraq or Afghanistan filing a suit….wouldn’t they have standing

    This is what I’ve been arguing for for quite some time. If it is someone injured, rehabilitated with either a chance to return to battle or with orders to return (active duty therefore – those have so far been given a hard time though in the courts) or one injured and discharged for that reason – should have a very emotionally charged visibility before the court – esp. if having served under the present CIC’s orders (or lack thereof). Or family members of those most recently killed in Afghanistan who would have standing to question the CIC’s refusal to order reinforcements and their question of his legality over their dead sons.

    But I don’t understand how the Judge could not give standing to those like Keyes who definitely have cause for injury in a fraudulent election. That is not a political question. It’s a Constitutional question.

    Too bad the situation of TerriK’s own ongoing discovery of no legal documents in HI backing Obama’s birth records could not come to a conclusion before this hearing and used as discovery that already available. Seems like all of the judges want something already “discovered” to present to the court in order to order further discovery of more sealed records of proof of ineligibility or at least to show the real background of the man.

  72. one more name

    Pile of stinky crap without an ID

    Persons Unknown

    PU

  73. LnNY @ 3:55: yes; did…but can’t remember which thread you posted that on…there are already hundreds since then: can you remind me? (no need to re-post it…I can go back and retrieve it).
    I don’t have a high expectation that he’d wanna ‘take it on’…but I figured I’d at least copy and paste it into a word doc…credit the author…and give it to him. It may only receive a ‘snicker’…I think he’ll at least enjoy the work and the words; the rest will be up to him.
    My BEST hope, is that he’d pick some music; give it his ‘rap’vibe; and make a Youtube clip out of it…now that would be ‘kewl’.
    So, just sayin’: it’s a long shot. Thanks.

  74. BlackSunshine84

    I thought the fact that Cheney did not follow proper procedure when counting the electoral college votes that the case didn’t have to be filed in DC, but could be heard in federal court. Dod Taitz and Kreep not argue this point?

  75. Leon Brozyna

    From the Post & Email:

    “Judge Carter pointed out that the case was unique and that there were no precedents to guide him thoroughly.”

    An activist judge ( and there are too many of them as we well know) wouldn’t be bothered by such a thing. Judge Carter seems to recognize the unique situation he is in. Let’s just hope that he will have the fortitude to set his own precedent.

    As for Quo Warranto, Orly has been that route through the District Court of DC and hit a stonewall. The judge that would hear that kind of case has already been replaced by obooboo.

    Now we need to wait on Judge Carter to see what happens next.

    Leon Brozyna
    CW2, USA (Ret)

  76. Call Senators and Reps tell the to buy Barack Obaa and Larry Sinclair http://www.amazon.com or
    Barnes and Nobel on line

    Chapter 12 tells how Biden became VP

    Truth needs to get out-Secret Life
    Larry needs donations for BOOK TOUR
    http://www.larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com

  77. I feel there will be no remedy in the courts; judges have been paid off or threatened.

    Did someone mention a coffee shop sighting with Carter and Holder? If so, that’s collusion. I can’t find the post, but know I read it somewhere. Just like Barky’s ‘secret’ meeting with SCOTUS justices several months ago; I believe Orly went after the transcripts of that meeting, to no avail.

    The end of him will come from something other than a court remedy: Hawaii, the DNC certification, someone in high places who has an ax to grind. But we will not see it come via a court ruling.

    Trying to look at this as a setback; I think we all have an idea how Carter will rule. Take the matter under advisement to shut people up.

    I have totally lost faith in the U.S. justice system because there isn’t any justice.

  78. Margie // October 5, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Is there a time limit of this review? How long do we have to wait for him to grow a pair?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Probably right after 2009, maybe January?? Right after the NAU and the NWO takes our country!!

  79. sorry Barack Obama and Larry Sinclair Title

    http://www.amazon.com

    Matching donations for book tour
    http://www.larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com

  80. “Beta Male” = aint got “cowboy”.

  81. Where was Glen Beck and his team??

  82. Patriot Dreamer

    Truth Exists (Paulajal) // October 5, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    My question is, why hasn’t anybody filed a Quo Warranto in the District Court?
    ******************************************
    Paulajal, if I remember correctly, both Leo Donofrio and Orly have filed Quo Warranto with Attorney General Holder as well as the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. However, they haven’t done anything after that. It’s my understanding that if the AG or the USA do not act (which they have not), then an attorney can petition the court directly. I have not heard of anyone doing that (so far). Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

  83. Anyone hear Rush speak about this great description of Obama as “beta male”?:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/did_we_elect_a_beta_male_as_pr_1.html

  84. “Sue says: I have totally lost faith in the U.S. justice system because there isn’t any justice.”

    I have totally lost faith in the entire US government. I think it is all just a sham now. I think it will come to succession and possible violence. Only a matter of when now.

  85. How long before Judge Carter rules? Tomorrow or the next day? Two days from now is the Memorial of Our Lady of the Rosary. The timing is interesting. Here is a story of this memorial: “On October 7, 1571, a Christian fleet composed of ships from Spain, the city-states of Italy, and the Knights of Malta challenged a Muslim Turkish navy for possession of Cyprus, which the Turks had captured a few months before. The battle took place at Lepanto (now known as the Gulf of Corinth), in the Mediterranean Sea.

    The Christian fleet, organized and consecrated by Pope Pius V and commanded by Don Juan, son of Charles V, prayed the Rosary together before entering battle. They achieved a stunning victory, killing thirty thousand Turks (only seventy-five hundred Christians were killed in the battle) and rescuing twelve thousand Christian slaves who had been chained as rowers for the Turkish fleet.

    This decisive battle turned back the advancing Muslim forces, who were poised to invade and conquer Europe. All of Christendom celebrated. In 1572, on the anniversary of the battle, Pope Pius V instituted this feast in thanksgiving to Our Lady of the Rosary. He invited all to celebrate by meditating on the mysteries of Christ and following the example of the Blessed Virgin Mary. G. K. Chesterton’s poem Lepanto gives an exciting and vivid account of this battle. From website:
    http://www.domestic-church.com/marian-devotions/page_45_Memorial_Our_Lady_Rosary_October_7.html

  86. SueK, I think it was Land and Holder.

  87. Looks Photoshopped–but hey!

    http://twitpic.com/keime

  88. Pete // October 5, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Hi Pete,

    Unfortunately, I agree. Violence is in the air. As one Tea Partier’s sign on 9/12 read: ‘We come unarmed. This time.’

    Hate to say it, but I’m sensing a free-for-all coming down soon. People are angry. They’re getting no resolution from their ‘elected officials.’ I think we know what’s next.

    And then, there’s the matter of this ‘thing’ in Our House, who is becoming more entrenched as the days go on.

    Hope seems to be slipping away.

  89. Attorney Orly Taitz submits exhibit supporting motion to recuse Judge Land because of purported influence by Attorney General Eric Holder:

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/863947.html

  90. Kim // October 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Thanks, Kim…collusion, nonetheless!

  91. Patriot Dreamer

    From

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/lady-liberty-before-carters-bench/

    “The Defense argued that the Court had no authority to hear the case, and that claims were political in nature and therefore not for the Judiciary to adjudicate.”
    ***************************************
    OK, here it looks like the defense (Dept. of Justice) is arguing that Judge Carter should drop the case, because it’s a “political question”, that is to say that it is the job of Congress to decide the issue — not the courts. I hope he rejects this argument.

  92. You all really should listen to that jb person.

    The real issue here is voter fraud.

    The real criminal is Nancy Pelosi.

    Why isn’t Mrs. Taitz going after Nancy Pelosi.

    Nancy Pelosi was the last barrier between O and the White House.

    Voter fraud is not a political issue, it’s a felony.

    the Birth Certificate is a rabbit hole.

  93. twe

    How long before Judge Carter rules?

    ************************

    Doesn’t matter, they’ll will just bump it up to their home court , dust it off there.

    Time for plan B…….

  94. TCOT tweet:

    artmusicgurl: giggle @brooksbayne wondering how many vampire obama’s there will be this halloween.

  95. If the Judge was inclined to dismiss, why would Taitz and Kreep object?

  96. Honduras has a Constitutional president Micheletti, who is strongly defended by the Judicial System, Congress and a great majority of the people about 80%.
    America does not have a Constitutional president , but is strongly defended by Congress, Judicial
    System and per Rasmussen Reports is only back up by 33% of the people.
    While Hondurans know how to defend their Constitution and stand for their believes and freedom against the world, in America those responsible for protecting the Constitution which once gave an oath are taking for granted the Usurper is above the Constitution.
    Which is one the Banana Republic?

  97. Two questions:

    1, How can any judge or anybody claims that only the DC court has jurisdiction since nobody has proven (not computer image) that O is legally a president?

    How can anybody claims that only Congress can impeach O since nobody has proven (not computer image) O is legally a president? Can Congress impeach an usurper?

  98. Bi-Partisan Senate Bill to defund ACORN

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/05/breaking-bi-partisan-senate-bill-to-defund-acorn/

    ACORN+PELOSI=VOTER FRAUD

  99. Linda from NY

    Re-Dude: 10/4/09 Kerchner…@4:23 PM
    Hope he likes it…

  100. O.K. everyone,

    We knew there was a slim chance, just like every other time. So….it’s bit like the lottery. Your chances don’t go up just because you play more often. The probability is always the same.

    It means you have to invest in something more viable. All good inventors know this. Leave this coal in the fire, and think again.

    The international community has already given their verdict, because sports on this scale reflect politics.

    Someone said the players now are international. We know that and that’s what this fraudulence is really about. International affairs is Obama’s achilles heel. It’s easy on home turf when you’ve been given a guarantee that no matter how much you screw up, everything will be taken care of. How many times have we witnessed that?

    No potential heads of state would have survived the transgressions this fool has made and that even includes Bush. Can you imagine if Bush had the equivalent of J. Wright, Ayers etc. while running?

    I think Afghanistan’s war will be a very telling one and I’m sorry that it will be at cost to those innocent soldiers.

  101. Is O bringing people back to God?

    http://hardtruth.squarespace.com/

  102. Jacqlyn Smith

    SueK // October 5, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    I feel there will be no remedy in the courts; judges have been paid off or threatened.

    ********************************************

    SueK…that was in Georgia with Land!

  103. truthbetold11

    Folks its not just obama being removed. Its a vast huge network of corruption thats waiting in the wings to take over this country. They say it takes a village to raise a child. Well its the village of corruption that has to be dismantled. This will take many corrupt organizations being taken down seiu,acorn,gamiel,laraza,appollo alliance, get the picture. Thats why no judge who wants to live and breath will touch this with a ten foot pole. Its going to have to come from yes liberal judges who say enough is enough. Then the take down can begin. the criminal network has been planning this for over 10 years, some old judge isnt gonna bring them down. We all need to pray that people on the middle left will see the made a mistake if not to late,godspeed

  104. Idea !! Call SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN THAT LOVE OUR COUNTRY AND CONSTITUTION.hAVE THEM GO TO
    http://WWW.WND.COM READ ARTICLE,oBAA CANNOT GET CASE DISMISSED.
    Tell the it is time to get in back of DR. ORLY TAITZ and get this discovery DONE NOW
    Tell the to contact her and get behind her now to SAVE AMERICA WITH THE TRUTH

  105. Jacqlyn Smith

    twe // October 5, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Attorney Orly Taitz submits exhibit supporting motion to recuse Judge Land because of purported influence by Attorney General Eric Holder:

    *******************************************

    I think Taitz needs to subpoena all records on Holder’s whereabouts on that date….also if he was in a coffee shop he probably purchased something….maybe they have a record of what he purchased???

  106. Also review WHY 2 DOCS BY THE DNC ONE WITH LEGAL VERBAGE OF ELIGIBLE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND THE OTHER 49 STATES ALL LEGAL VERBAGE OMITTED.??
    WHY????? WHY???? PELOSI SIGNED BOTH

    http://WWW.RISEUPFORAMERICA.COM
    scroll down to canadafresspress link see for yourself

  107. “The man’s a PUSSY. And he calls himself a veteran. Veteran of what? KP Duty?”

    Jacqlyn Smith // October 5, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    “You got that right!”

    Wife of an American , currently serving in Europe (15 years service), daughter of a British Royal Marine, deceased, 22 years ACTIVE service.

    My husband would be horrified if he knew i was replying here. I have followed your conversations with great interest, but this is the final straw.

    Now this judge, previously described as a ‘patriot’ has suggested more time to consider, he is being called a ‘pussy’, as someone who wants to ‘p

  108. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Ace // October 5, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    You all really should listen to that jb person.

    The real issue here is voter fraud.

    The real criminal is Nancy Pelosi.

    Why isn’t Mrs. Taitz going after Nancy Pelosi.

    Nancy Pelosi was the last barrier between O and the White House.

    Voter fraud is not a political issue, it’s a felony.

    the Birth Certificate is a rabbit hole.
    *******************************************

    I think all fronts need to be explored….since it is jbjd’s baby….and she doesn’t want anyone copying it I think she should pursue it like you say ACE…this whole election process stunk…..from the millions of illegal campaign money to the certification of an illegal candidate according to the Constitution!!! Don’t worry though….true Patriots are not going to let this go away any time soon!

  109. oops sorry,…I clicked on something wrong on my distress.

    Now this Judge, a Marine who has been awarded a Purple Heart and Bronze Star, is being described as a ‘pussy’, as someone who doesn’t care about the concerns of the Military, because he needed time to consider the *evidence* in front of him?

    Now, my husband and I may be in dispute about this, but you are wronging this Judge in your reactions so far, he and I are agreed about that. Hold your peace. Stop with the conspiracy theories that dictate if something doesn’t go your way, it must be part of the ‘fix’.

    THAT is what my husband has said to me.

  110. Linda from NY

    twe: Thanks for the articles about the Feast of the Holy Rosary; Dr. Taitz fighting Land; Christians coming home to roost, McChrystal under the bus, and Can’t get the case dismissed.
    What a great collage of information!

    What’s your take on what happened today?

  111. Off topic, but still important. Just got this from my doctor:

    ..we are very concerned that proposed Medicare regulations, if implemented, will severely restrict our ability to continue providing all the services you have come to expect from us. Therefore, we are taking the unprecedented step of contacting our patients to alert them to the situation we face.

    If implemented as proposed, the 2010 Medicare regulations will force cardiology practices such as ours to reduce services that we can provide in our offices. If these rules are put in place, many cardiology patients will have to go to the hospital to obtain imaging services, rather than having the tests performed in the office to be interpreted by their cardiologist with the results provided quickly back to the patient. Medicare patients will have higher co-pays, and everyone will have longer wait times for tests and results. Many of these new rules are based on incorrect data that the government has used to generate revised reimbursement rates.

    We ask that you help protect your access to cardiac care by contacting your legislators in Congress. We urge you to visit http://www.guardingheartsalliance.org/ where you can learn more about what’s at stake for America’s cardiac patients. The website makes it easy to email your senators and representatives and ask them to intervene on your behalf with Medicare before it’s too late. Only a few weeks remain before Medicare finalizes its regulations, so we hope you will go to http://www.guardingheartsalliance.org/ as soon as you can.

    Cardiovascular disease takes more lives each year than cancer, accidents and diabetes combined. But advances in cardiology during the past 10 years have reduced heart-related deaths and the severity of heart-related illness by 27 percent. That’s important, because the urgent need for this lifesaving specialty will increase 60 percent in the next 15 years as baby boomers advance in age and because the current shortage of cardiologists is expected to worsen over that time.

    Please help us continue to treat our patients’ cardiac disease and ensure that the strides we have made in fighting our country’s Number One killer have not been in vain. Please contact your legislators today.

  112. twe, this is inspiring. I hope praying with my cross is as good as the Rosary!

    “twe // October 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    How long before Judge Carter rules? Tomorrow or the next day? Two days from now is the Memorial of Our Lady of the Rosary. The timing is interesting. Here is a story of this memorial: “On October 7, 1571, a Christian fleet composed of ships from Spain, the city-states of Italy, and the Knights of Malta challenged a Muslim Turkish navy for possession of Cyprus, which the Turks had captured a few months before. The battle took place at Lepanto (now known as the Gulf of Corinth), in the Mediterranean Sea.

    The Christian fleet, organized and consecrated by Pope Pius V and commanded by Don Juan, son of Charles V, prayed the Rosary together before entering battle. They achieved a stunning victory, killing thirty thousand Turks (only seventy-five hundred Christians were killed in the battle) and rescuing twelve thousand Christian slaves who had been chained as rowers for the Turkish fleet.

    This decisive battle turned back the advancing Muslim forces, who were poised to invade and conquer Europe. All of Christendom celebrated. In 1572, on the anniversary of the battle, Pope Pius V instituted this feast in thanksgiving to Our Lady of the Rosary. He invited all to celebrate by meditating on the mysteries of Christ and following the example of the Blessed Virgin Mary. G. K. Chesterton’s poem Lepanto gives an exciting and vivid account of this battle. From website:
    http://www.domestic-church.com/marian-devotions/page_45_Memorial_Our_Lady_Rosary_October

  113. I don’t know if he’s still accepting questions, but I saw this at The Post and Email:

    “on October 5, 2009 at 2:30 PM John Charlton

    “I am going to interview Mr. Charles Lincoln, shortly: if ANY of YOU have questions for him about the hearing, or the case, post them here, and I will try to incorporate them into the interview.'”

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/lady-liberty-before-carters-bench/

  114. Linda from NY

    “Be not afraid; I go before you. Come, follow me, and I will give you rest!” From a church hymn, but I think we all need to re-focus on the job at hand. If it is that easy for us to get discouraged, then we will surely fail. So many are working hard to affect a good result. Leo has failed many times, but he keeps on trying. Dr. Taitz has failed many times, but she keeps on trying. jbjd has been frustrated to no end in her quest to fight fraud, but she keeps trying. “If we have faith like that of a muster seed, we can move mountains.” So let’s get busy and move some mountains, mkay?

  115. Was the judge given more evidence today, or is he talking about reviewing evidence he’s had for the last month?

  116. @ Maria:

    People are very passionate about this issue. Sometimes anger bubbles forth. Please forgive us, we are only human. I am angry as well. I am angry that no judge thus far as heard the merits of this case. I am angry that no journalists seem interested in the fact that obama has proved nothing about his life or who he is. I am angry that no one in the congress or senate will stand up to this fraudulent president and demand that he prove who he is. I am angry that people think that I am a crazy fool for smelling a stinking skunk in the bushes. Even though I am angry, I will not use profanity. At least not today.

  117. What we can learn from the people of Iceland – they overthrew their government last year and now they are kicking the IMF out. Their story is a brave one, an historic one and could hold promise for the citizens of the U.S.

    Their brave story is here:
    http://www.alternet.org/workplace/126117/the_icelandic_volcano_erupts:_a_new_era_of_people_power_in_the_streets/?page=entire

    and with the IMF here:
    http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2009/07/29/2003449797

    Why should we be concerned?
    “[T]he unannounced purpose of the recent G20 Summit in Pittsburgh was that the IMF is being anointed as the global central bank.”

    How does that affect/impact us?
    http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/imf.php

    and more here:
    http://revolutionradio.org/?p=24567
    excerpt:
    The U.S. has fueled the world economy for the last 50 years, but now it is going broke. The U.S. can settle its debts and get its own house in order, but that would cause world trade to contract. A substitute global reserve currency is needed to fuel the global economy while the U.S. solves its debt problems, and that new currency is to be the IMF’s SDRs.

  118. Maria,

    It’s a real possibility that obama is not even a US citizen. What do you think about that?

  119. Maria,

    Carter has had way, way, WAY beyond enough time to review the case. He also has a few clerks and several others working for him full time.

    More time? More time for what? Higher payouts on a bribe? More time to consider whether he has the man berries to make the right decision for the fighting men and women of this nation??? More time to figure out what he’s going to wear tomorrow? What?

    This is not rocket science. Either obozo is a usurper, or he’s legit. As the old adage says:

    Sh!t or Get Off the Pot

  120. Reconciliation may be the Dems last trump card and if necessary they will use it. It requires 51 Dems to support health care rather than 60.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline/print_friendly.php?ID=no_20091002_9149

  121. What are you afraid of Judge Carter??

    Stop wasting time and make the call.

  122. Call Senators and Reps and ask WHY has Obama spent 1.4 MILLION TO KEEP STUDENT LOANS,COLLAGE RECORDS,MARRIAGE RECORDS,THESIS,PASSPORTS,ETC,ETC
    HIDDEN WHY?????????

    Was he an Indonesian foreign student ?
    adopted by his step-father???

  123. Tri lateral Comm, Obama
    This will Wake you up

    http://www.repubx.com CK THIS PASS ON

  124. Alex–God hears your prayers. The Lord blesses your intention, especially joined to him in Christ.

    God bless you.

  125. Call tonight 9est

    http://www.investigatingobama.blogspot.com

    The Awakening radio, info here

    listen in

  126. Truth Now // October 5, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Call Senators and Reps tell the to buy Barack Obaa and Larry Sinclair
    Barnes and Nobel on line

    Chapter 12 tells how Biden became VP
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    September 21, 2009

    Dear Ms. XXXXXX:

    When you contacted my office, you expressed your thoughts regarding the actions of Rep. Joe Wilson during President Obama’s recent address to a Joint Session of Congress. While I understand the frustration which Rep. Wilson expressed, the President deserves our reapect.

    Again, thank you….blah..blah…

    Sincerely,

    Mitch Mcconnell
    United States Senator

  127. ARAB STATES LAUNCH SECRET MOVES WITH CHINA, RUSSIA, FRANCE TO STOP USING DOLLAR FOR OIL TRADING… DEVELOPING…

    This is the leading story on Drudge.

  128. venice // October 5, 2009 at 6:30 pm,

    They will attempt to get this passed. When it does pass, expect pitchforks, torches, and lot’s of hot oil from the baby boomers that will go postal over this.

    We think they were angry during the town halls, just you wait.

  129. Call tonight 9est

    http://www.investigatingobama.blogspot.com

    The Awakening radio, info here

    listen in
    1-646-727-2652 9 EST TONIGHT

  130. JJ // October 5, 2009 at 6:43 pm,

    The only respect the usurper deserves is allowing him to use the toilet once an hour and a phone call to the law office of Perkins Coie.

  131. Linda fm NY–Glad you liked the potpourri! All happens in God’s good time. We need do what we can and leave the rest to the Lord.

    I think it is good the judge is taking time with this. Any way that it plays out, it will look like the decision has been thought over…even if the decision was already made up in the judge’s mind today. If it is in favor of our cause, then it is much better that the decision look slow and deliberate. That will eliminate cries of a “rush to judgment.” Also, more people who read CW, have been moved to comment. That’s good because, the more one is engaged with the thing, the more likely one is to move on it. Remember, faith without works is dead! If the decision goes against the cause, it won’t stop things from going forward in other circumstances and other venues. Publicity is good. It has helped us a lot. Do you remember how it was at the beginning? It looked near impossible. Now, it looks quite probable…some day, some how (it might even be interesting to do a pool as to when the beginning of the end starts for O).

    Also, with regard to those who have been beaten back so many times, the good ones keep getting up and engaging the fight. That’s one of the marks of a saint. Though they fall, they keep getting up. Remember, quitters never win…and winners never quit. Glad we have Orly on our side. She is a winner, as are others who are still in it. God Bless!

  132. What’s next when the reality sets in that the court system and politicans are not going to help us remove the imposter president?

  133. Here’s a site that will donate juice to food banks, through the “Feeding America” partnership across the country. You can click once a day until December 31st…until they reach 1 million servings! It costs nothing for you to do so.

    http://welchs.com/harvest

  134. UpstateWarrior,

    I know what you mean. Some of us figured this out back in December of 2008 that the usurper in chief paid 2/3rds of Washington to keep quiet on this boiling issue. You see, CONgrass had a lock on Soetoro, but he named their price. The Saudi’s and several other Middle East governments embezzled funds to pay for election payouts back in September of ’08. In return, CONgrass does whatever they want and the usurper agrees to pass any hot potato flying this way. One more reason why he wants “his” deathcare plan to pass (it’s not his, but he must play the game nonetheless).

    That’s the real dirty secret here. Next time anyone talks with their MIS-representative in CONgrass, be blunt and ask them how much money they were paid by Soetoro to keep their mouths shut regarding his dirty past.

  135. Venice,

    Re: Saudi secret deal:

    It was inevitable.

    Now maybe someone else can fight the Saudi’s wars for them.

  136. Buraq ’08 // October 5, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    @ Maria:

    “People are very passionate about this issue…”

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart

    If I appeared to be angry I’m sorry…

  137. LnNY: got it; thank you kindly. I took the first step, and emailed the doc file to him, asking (if he’s interested) what it would take for him to recite it produced out for posting on YouTube.
    I’ll let you know the reply I get. Worth a shot, I think. He’s a Christian artist (currently not of any widely-known notoriety) who has written some really good pieces (and I’m not even a fan of the genre)…we’ll see if it goes anywhere.

  138. Larry Kudlow says “got to stop the University of Chicago professors from running the U.S. ECONOMY”
    SPEECH AT http://WWW.AMERICANSFORPROSPERITY.ORG
    Call Senators and Reps AND SAY ENOUGH

    gIVE INFO TO THEM TO INVESTIGATE,WEB SITES AND INFO
    Tell them to read Barack Obama and Larry Sinclair book http://www.amazon.com
    THIS WILL WAKE THEM UP

  139. Linda from NY-while I was out raking I was thinking. God Forbid something bad should happen in the United States of America-involving corruption, incompetence by Obama ineligible potus. The truth comes out to all of the American people finally-even the blacked out media could not hide it. There would not be one congressperson, supreme court judge anyone in government would be be able to walk down the street, they would be seen as the traitors they are. People would say you could have done something about Obama why didn’t you? They would be shunned as lepers.

  140. I am going to an Act for America meeting.They will have a speaker talking about Lebanon.I will be eager to hear what Leo has to say on the air.Keep me posted.

  141. Breaking: Louisiana Attorney General: Rathke Embezzled $5 Million From ACORN

    An internal review by the board of directors of the community organization ACORN determined that the amount allegedly embezzled from the community organization was $5 million, well more than the previously reported amount of nearly $1 million, according to a new subpoena in an investigation by Louisiana Attorney General Buddy Caldwell.

    The subpoena, released this afternoon, says, “It is still unclear if some of the monies embezzled are from state, federal or private funds.”

    Caldwell issued subpoenas in August seeking documents related to Acorn International then-President Wade Rathke and his brother Dale Rathke, who kept the group’s books. Those subpoenas were focused on possible Acorn violations of state employee tax law, obstructing justice and violating the Employee Retirement Security Act.

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/05/breaking-acorn-embezzlement-was-5-million/

  142. Is Michelle Obama Racist? LISTEN TO THIS!!

  143. Maria // October 5, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Hello Maria,

    First of all, please thank your husband very much for his service to America.

    If you’re a follower of CW’s blog, you know how much we’ve discussed in the past several months, and how every avenue explored turns out to be a dead end.

    We’re frustrated; I’m frustrated. The deck is always stacked against us, it seems; a dictator is entrenched in our beloved America.

    Today I thought about throwing in the towel but then, I realized what was at stake, so the battle continues.

    We had/have so much faith that Judge Carter would do the right thing-remember, he gave us all indications that Orly’s case *would* be heard on its merits and he alluded to the fact that most Motions to Dismiss fail. He truly seemed to want to hear this case. Something happened.

    Now, we have hesitancy. That’s where the frustration comes in. This is why I said in a previous post that he’s probably been either paid off or threatened.

    Let’s just hope and pray something will work in our favor, and soon. Very soon.

  144. While we await yet another Judge to do the right thing, a thought occurred:

    When one of these cases finally is heard on the merits (and as an eternal optimist, I believe that day will come) I am sure the final decision will come from the Supreme Court.

    Although no one really knows what will happen if the Usurper is found to be ineligible, many learned folks think that will declare void everything Obama has done as POTUS. (From my keyboard to God’s ear.)

    That brings me to this question: As Sotomayor may be removed from the SCOTUS, shouldn’t she be forced to recuse herself and have no vote?

  145. JeffM, it is painful watching all of this. On many corrupt fronts it seems like the American people are being squeezed and coralled into a tighter and tighter space, while Barry and his cohorts continue to run wild pillaging our nation.

    What frustrates me is that I see no way of forming an army that will protect the American people at this time. We need an organized army that will fight for us like in the revolutionary war days. Marches, protests, sign waving, etc is not going to remove the corrupt officals in DC. A coup has taken place and DC has been taken over, that’s why Barry is not being touched.

    Time is not on our side, and at the rate things are going, after everything has almost been taken from us, I expect marshal law to be implemented, along with a nuclear strike or 2 taking place in America.

  146. Anyone have a link to the post and email Radio show, for the interview with Charles Lincoln?

  147. Ladyhawke // October 5, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Hi Ladyhawke,

    Yes, Sotomayor should recuse herself, but she won’t.
    Remember, it’s now standard practice to run roughshod over the Constitution on a daily basis.

    They just keep on truckin.’

  148. LM 713–thank you for that enlightening podcast.

  149. UpstateWarrior,

    I see where you are coming from and we must be vigilant against martial law. But we have seen a metamorphesis in this country. People are opening their eyes and they are responding.

    Look on the other side of the fence…the side people rarely talk about:

    1. Gun sales through the roof
    2. Mass shortages of ammunition stockpiles
    3. Massive hikes in precious metal prices
    4. Higher involvement in NRA activities and massive increases in shooting range participation

    We have an Army and it’s called the Patriot Militia. It’s been there since the 1700’s. And that army has been rapidly preparing itself since December 2008, enough to arm every nation on earth with an army of its own.

    The patriots are not yet organized to a strong, well-formed military body, but the Patriot Militia is alert and prepared to go to battle upon short notice.

  150. Hey Michelle,

    Most were praying for a blessing for B.O. on inauguration day, i was asking G-D for basketball sized hail, to help the party out just a bit.

    Funny you mentioned the leprosy issue. The thin skinned might find it doctrinally harsh, and that is o.k. with me, but i have been asking for the souls that are putting this great republic in danger, those who are in collusion with this massive perjury, forgery, wire fraud, falsification of identification documents, high crimes and misdemeanors to be smitten with leprosy making them all en samples.

    Honor your Oaths of Office, or clean out your desks !

  151. Upstate Warrior…I wasn’t going to post…I’m so disgusted with this court system behaving like third world officials bought and paid for…but your question is a real doozy…..

    What indeed??

    What will it take for ‘us’ to get it??

  152. O names pro-abort lawyer to EEOC Panel:

    http://www.lifenews.com/nat5542.html

  153. Jacqlyn Smith // October 5, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Thanks, Jackie…I’m getting my judges mixed up.

    Still, to have an A.G. and a trial judge together when there is an open case regarding Barky’s eligibility to be CIC looks pretty bad…

  154. Hey twe,

    Thanks for linking to my blog, HardTruth. I’m also happy to be turned on to this website, a lot of good stuff here, keep up the good work.

  155. Ace, JS, and Everyone,

    I want to make perfectly clear, I wish everyone in an applicable state filed a complaint of election fraud. People who steal my work and just tell their readers to file complaints they can download off my blog – JB Williams, Devvy Kidd, etc. – look like fools. Because given existing laws, a charge of election fraud cannot be supported in every state. To do the work posted on my blog, first, you have to understand what you are doing.

    How do you know whether your state has these laws? Well, people looked up their own laws! Yes; on my blog, you have to do some leg work. If they did not understand the laws, they sent these to me and, I interpreted. Then, if their state had the appropriate laws, I still needed them to contact the state elections officials to obtain candidate certificate documents, so that I would know whom to charge.

    I drafted individual complaints to each state, depending on the law in that state and, the person charged. You can imagine, this took forever. Most complaints were 4 (four) single-spaced pages; SC’s was 6 (six).

    And you needed to understand what you were doing not just because an informed citizenry is necessary to a healthy democracy but because at some point, you would be asked. Whether by the Board of Elections; or the AG; or the press, all of whom get copies of your individual complaint. Yes; you need to fill in your real name and home address. Because it is your status as resident of that state that provides the basis for redress through your state officials.

    I want people to be citizen activists; but I do not want them to be sheep. So, in order to understand what happened during this past election cycle, you have to read the summaries on my blog. And I explicitly advise, forget about BO. He did not put himself into the WH; NP did.

    These complaints are really quite simple in their premise. That is, we have no idea whether BO is a NBC. But we know, NP said he is. And, given the documents in the public record on August 27, 2008, when she signed the Official DNC Certification of Nomination, we conclude this was impossible. Ha! Given the chance to submit ‘evidence’ to the federal court for judicial notice, even BO failed to produce NP’s Certifications. Instead, he reverted back to APFC.

    Don’t you see? In August 2008, the best evidence NP that BO was for real was APFC. And on that basis, she submitted to state elections officials, her signed Certification of Nomination. But 5 (five) months later, the best evidence BO had to prove he is for real, was NP’s Certification. And yet, he used APFC. Think about that. He could have given the court a document signed by The Honorable Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, 3rd in line of Presidential succession, saying he is a NBC, with all the gravitas that entailed. But he didn’t. Well, if NP’s Certification of his Nomination is not good enough to give to the federal court to prove he is for real, then it is not be good enough for state boards of election, either!

    You have to read the work. I put together the important facts, yes, FACTS; it was a waste of time to focus on what is missing from the public record when everything we needed was right there all along. Think about it; if we have no idea whether BO is a NBC, how on earth was NP able to swear he was, in order to get his name printed on our general election ballots?

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com

  156. Judge Carter (and every other Judge for that matter ) have had 3 moons, and 52 Sundays to look over all the evidence brought before their court.

    They know damn well that Obama is a fraud, and is usurping the Office of President.

    They just don’t have the ballz to do what needs to be done, and that’s order “discovery” right now; not 30 days from now, or 60, or 9 months from now.

    These Judges are passing the HOT potato, because none of them (including Carter) has the ballz to do what they damn well know needs to be done.

    Any idiot with a 2 nd grade education can look at the evidence, and come the conclusion, that Obama has about 300 red flags waving all around him, that have the word “FRAUD” written all over them!

    As and Ex-Marine, he should know the importance of not procrastinating an issue as important as this.

    He seems to be very indecisive, and not much of a leader if you ask me. I’m glad I didn’t serve under him, I might not have made it home, because he might not have had the mettle to allow me to engage the enemy when I needed to, in order to win the battle. He’d rather rummage through the “rules of engagement” while I’m taking enemy fire, than just give the order to engage….NOW!

    He needs to grow a pair and realize the more time he takes, the more time there is for error, bribery, threats to take place.

    The time is “yesterday”, not after you give the enemy time to regroup, and come up with a better booby trap later down the trail.

    Indecisiveness never wins wars, it only gets people killed.

    Stand up Judge Carter, and be a man, for Gods sake, the future of this country could very well be in your hands sir.

  157. twe,

    I read that article on the couple and their orchid business. I was shocked. Then I started thinking, maybe we should be reporting Obama to these guys instead of the FBI or CIA. May see some action.

    In all seriousness, the fact this poor man spent 2 years in prison for this ridiculous charge, and the comment the judge made was beyond belief.

  158. I am saddened and angry at the same time.
    I just finished reading all the posts here to catch up with what happened today.

    If Judge Carter is reading this blog, please know that these issues will no go away. American citizens have standing in many ways, and they are now impatiently waiting for someone in the judiciary to address the issues of an ineligible POTUS. Ask for Discovery and then finally America will know the answers. Every day that passes without facing these issues will continue to put our soldiers, our country, and our world in unnecessary jeopardy. It is your duty as you swore the Constitutional Oath, that you would upon it! Please do your duty for your fellow citizens.

  159. Ok people,
    Take a look at the headline at Dredge.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

    I know a little about the petrodollar, and this does not portend well for the US.

    William Clark wrote a book about this a couple of years ago. It’s either petrodollar warfare or oil currency wars. Does not really matter. I’ll find out and get back at you.

    I could use some help researching this topic and seeing how hosed we are. I do not want to alarm anyone but this could be very troubling.

  160. Didn’t Leo D. say that in his opinion it would be Quo Warranto in DC with another attorney
    (not Holder) being appointed for the defense?

    Do I have that correct?

  161. Headline

    ” In a graphic illustration of the new world order. Arab states have launched secret moves with China, Russia, and France to stop using US currency for oil trading.”

  162. maddie–how goes it with the folks and assisted living?

  163. jc,
    I’ll read the link later, but I’m too upset to even
    look now.

  164. jc,

    YOU ARE CORRECT! While everyone has been focused on the NBC issue, Rome was burning.

    I have a few resources on the petro dollar system. What are you trying to find/figure out? How can I help you?

  165. jc–where did you get that headline? Please post your source. Thanks.

  166. Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Qatar, Brazil, and Japan are also involved.

  167. jc–nevermind! I see now that you posted just slightly ahead of that quote. My apologies.

  168. No problem twe. The article is ominous.

    “This sounds like a dangerous prediction of a future economic war between the US and China and Middle East oil…”

  169. jc–I saw it and apologize once again. Thanks for reposting.

  170. jc–yes, the article is ominous. We are right on top of each other with the comments. Ha!

  171. I might add: Even if Carter later rules to allow the case to go forward, he was still indecisive.

    He’s taken way too long in this case.

    When you have evidence in front of you that overwhelmingly points in the direction of fraud, you should not allow the fraud to continue, not even for one minute.

    This is just as bad as having caught a serial killer on tape, and postponing the killers lockup 30 days down the road.

    Now he has time to kill again.

    Now Obama and his minions have time to get to him, whether it be threats, and auto accident, food poisoning, threats to his family, etc.

    When you’ve caught the killer, you don’t let him go because you want to review the tapes one more time before you make your decision.

    You lock his ass up, and then you review the tapes.

  172. Twe,
    I spend most of time at the capital market blogs.

    The best and brightest I know are screaming ” black swan”.

  173. twe–Hi friend.
    They are doing a bit better, thanks for asking.
    Now, though, it’s kind of funny almost—when
    my mom gets mad at my dad she’s telling him
    he’s got to go to assisted living. Actually, he’s the one who wants to try it. It’s really a bit bizarre—I think maybe it might work out with
    time (I think I underestimated the time needed to make the decision. Over here we make pretty fast decisions on things, so I guess I wasn’t thinking that older people maybe don’t do the same—is this right?) But, the good news is the
    A.L. facility is still holding the unit with my deposit and is not forcing us at this point to
    decide. They had their “Grand Opening”
    yesterday. My parents didn’t go 😦

  174. “This is bad news. Chalmer Johnson: “If the Middle East decides to trade oil in something other than dollars, it will be WWIII.”

  175. Everyone,

    As you can see from comments on my blog, d2i appeared before the Virginia Board of Elections today, intending to follow up on the complaint of election fraud she filed against The Honorable Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, acting in the non-governmental role of Chair, 2008 DNC Convention; and request for investigation. (Keep in mind, Tim Kaine, the Governor of VA, is the Chair of the DNC.)

    Her appearance was postponed until Friday.
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com

  176. The South // October 5, 2009 at 7:54 pm,

    BRAVO! Well said and to the point!

    I wouldn’t want to serve under mushy ballboy either. I’ve seen a few CO’s like our booby prize winner Carter. They usually wind up dead, or as a boot-licking CONgrassman in a future election.

  177. jc,

    It’ll be more like RWII. Our tyrannical government is to blame for all this, not the Middle East.

  178. Jeff M,
    What do you know about petrodollars and peak oil?

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  180. Hello,

    Guys wake up! My nerd herd is bellowing act one is playing out now. The world cabal is throwing the US under the bus. Act two is saber rattling, and the final act is probably a world war.

    Warning BLACK SWAN!

    Be back later.

  181. http://senateconservatives.com/index.php?p=post&id=41

    Here’s a list of the Titanic spending bills the Senate has passed since January. Click on the links to see how your Senators voted:
    $350 billion Wall Street bailout extension (#5)
    $787 billion stimulus (#64)
    $400 billion, earmark-infested omnibus spending bill (#96)
    $6 billion to federalize charities and pay volunteers (#115)
    $109 billion loan to the International Monetary Fund (#201)
    $3 billion for cash for clunkers (#270)
    $400 million in corporate welfare to help tourism corporations advertise overseas (#272)
    $4 billion bailout of the Postal Service (#300)

  182. I don’t want to take the wind out of everybody’s sail but please be prepared for another big letdown with Carter. I think his efforts to “hear” the case is another stall tactic, designed merely to buy time. Time that this administration needs to fortify their efforts to implement their regime.

    If I’m dead wrong, I’ll be the first to rejoice. In the meantime think of how you will prepare yourself and your family when the moment of real opposition presents itself at your door. I agree with JeffM. Healthcare will be a turning point because you just can’t negotiate your health and in particular those of loved ones.

  183. venice // October 5, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Hi Venice,

    I’m sorry to say that I agree with you.

    This ‘administration’ has raised the practice of stalling to an artform. Their machine is in place.

  184. SueK, I am very sorry too.

  185. Tom Estes–You’re welcome

  186. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

    Here Obama is trying to avoid a war in Afghanistan, but may have China at his doorstep in very short order.

    I don’t know how much time this administration will have to install their ridiculous domestic policies.. I know I keep harping at this but foreign relations keep tugging at this administration. Like the people can’t ignore health care, the U.S. cannot ignore China on any level. It is a major distraction for them.

  187. OriginUnknown

    Based on yet further delay, seems Carter may have no intention of moving forward.

    Is he just showing procrastination of dismissal disguised as thoughtful thinking?

    Is he waiting for some other litigation to break to firm up the position of continuation?

    Seems as if he knows the backlash is going to come either way he rules, and can’t seem to decide which would be worse. Is he just trying to pass the ball in private to avoid seeing the people when he cowardly limps away?

    I think if this were a case of “No Standing” or “No Jurisdiction” then this is utter BS he not rule today.

    What could possibly be pined over further?

  188. maddie–the best way to go with the folks is to slowly try to ease them along to make the decision that is in their best interests. I was halfway across the country with my parents, when we had to set a date for moving them here. For them, that was the only way we were going to get them to move and come back with me. I spent four and a half months in that situation before bringing them home. Sometimes, setting a date is a big help.

    It sounds like your folks have made some progress towards going into assisted living. If it is coming from your mother’s lips, I would venture to say she is halfway there. She is “trying it on” verbally…even if it is directed towards your dad. It does sound humorous! Now, some day, your dad will need to say–OK, I’m going…and I’m selling the house (or whatever is their situation)…so, you’ll have to come with me. That way, they are moving because of him, not her…even if it really is because of her.

    I will continue to keep all of you in my prayers.

  189. jbjd
    “Think about it; if we have no idea whether BO is a NBC, how on earth was NP able to swear he was, in order to get his name printed on our general election ballots?” Exactly the point. Thank you jbjd.
    What a journey.

  190. Origin—I was wondering similar thoughts.
    Could he be waiting for ACORN to break
    totally at the highest level, or Blago to blab on,
    or Rezko leads to pan out, the list is endless….
    Regardless, Carter should stand up and address
    the issues that all Americans are waiting to hear.
    Procastination is not the answer.

  191. OriginUnknown // October 5, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Hi OU,

    I don’t believe that Carter has any intention of moving this along-he’s been ‘bought.’

    Too much time transpired between the initial hearing and now-a month is a long time for them to plan their strategy and get to the judge. Remember how positive he was in September that this case would go forward?

    As others here have said, no judge wants this case on their plate, so it’ll be dismissed; the defense Motion will be allowed.

    There is nothing to be ‘pined over further,’ as you say. From what I understand, the emotional outburst in court today only served to have him take another look; I think we know what that ‘look’ will result in: Another case being thrown out without having its proper ‘day in court.’

    A sad testimony to our judicial system, isn’t it?

  192. citizenwells

    *********************************************************
    * Wells reality check.
    * Dick Morris was just talking about the senate finance committee vote
    * coming up. Changing Congress is the key to fixing most problems
    * including BO. Keep the pressure on congressmen. Let them know we
    * are watching them and will vote them out unless they change their ways.
    * We do not want govt healthcare.
    **********************************************************

  193. Jbjd said:
    And I explicitly advise, forget about BO. He did not put himself into the WH; NP did

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I truly believe Pelosi made a deal with the devil…
    George Soros…….for lots of money.

    “for what is a man profited if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul?”

  194. venice // October 5, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    I know I keep harping at this but foreign relations keep tugging at this administration
    \\\\

    …and I’m glad you do, Venice. I know you see the bigger picture.

    For me, Webster Tarpley’s insights/predictions seem to be not so far off.

  195. twe–I always enjoy your analysis, its so on target and helpful. I never thought of actually setting a date at some point. Can you imagine I
    thought I’d say A.Living one day and they’d love to move in over the weekend.? Did I tell you I
    made designer pillows and was all set to decorate
    the unit? I thought they’d be excited about a
    new direction in life (and this is brand new and
    gorgeous—and I mean gorgeous). But, thanks
    for the encouragement–I agree some progress
    is being made. If your family had to think about it half way across America, then time was a factor in their decision. Thanks, twe, and
    thanks for the ongoing prayers. I believe they are working after what my mom said!:)

  196. http://scamsdaily.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/bakken-oil-field-in-montana-salvation-or-scam/
    Bakken Oil Field in Montana – Salvation or Scam?
    Posted on February 2, 2009 by gomerjones
    US has over 4 Trillion Barrels of Oil in the Bakken Oil Field according to the USGS.. Enough Oil to free the United States from all dependence on Middle Eastern Oil for the next 2 generations.
    Why are we not using it?
    The U.S. Geological Service issued a
    report in April (’08) that only scientists and oilmen knew was coming, but man was it big. It was a revised report
    (hadn’t been updated since ‘95) on how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota ; western
    South Dakota; and extreme eastern Montana … check THIS out:
    The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska ’s Prudhoe Bay , and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable… at $107 a barrel, we’re looking at a resource base worth more than $5.3 trillion.
    ‘When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea.’ says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature’s financial analyst.
    ‘This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years,’ reports The Pittsburgh Post Gazette. It’s a formation known as the Williston Basin , but is more commonly referred to as the ‘Bakken.’ And it stretches from Northern Montana, through North Dakota and into Canada . For years, U.S.oil exploration has been considered a dead end. Even the ‘Big Oil’ companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago. However, a recent technological break through ha s opened up the
    Bakken’s massive reserves… and we now have acces s of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is light, sweet
    oil, those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL!
    That’s enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 41 years straight.
    2. [And if THAT didn’t throw you on the floor, then this next one should – because it’s from TWO YEARS AGO, people!] U.S.Oil Discovery- Largest Reserve in the World! Stansberry Report Online – 4/20/2006 Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven
    reserves on earth. Here are the official estimates :
    -8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
    -18-times as much oil as Iraq
    -21-times as much oil as Kuwait-22-times as much oil as Iran
    -500-times as much oil as Yemen- and it’s a ll right here in the Western United States .
    HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this!? Because the democrats, environmentalists and left wing republicans have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil. James Bartis, lead researcher with
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  197. Write/Right on, Citizen Wells, we do not
    want govt. healthcare. My mom who came to
    this country from England is still alive thanks to good medical care here. Her younger sister, who stayed in England, died years ago from breast cancer that she wasn’t treated agressively for thanks to Socialized Medicine.

  198. You’re welcome maddie! No, you hadn’t talked about the designer pillows. Too bad we can’t see them here on CW!

    Keep putting your trust in the Lord. He does hear and answer all our prayers, though some may not think so. He answers our prayers in his goodness. Since his ways are so far above our ways, we don’t always understand why some things turn out the way they do. God wants what is best of the souls of your parents…and yours as well. He will make all our paths straight. Trust in him.

  199. venice // October 5, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    I think his efforts to “hear” the case is another stall tactic, designed merely to buy time.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I agree and have really braced myself for a month for what comes next…didn’t expect much from this judge.
    Was especially skeptical about the January 26th trial date??
    What, this isn’t pressing enough to get a rush??

  200. twe–thank you, and I will.

  201. Michelle,

    As you know Palin’s signature platform was rooted in utilizing domestic oil.

    While too busy denigrating her (my impression of Couric was irrevocably and permanently altered by her interview, and I’m pretty tolerant), they didn’t let her get a foothold on that topic.

    I have to wonder why this administration (the same as Bush) is more intent on fighting international wars for oil than digging for their own. I know that the cost of extracting oil and processing is greater with homegrown, but then again I guess we’re talking about profits for the mega corporations.

  202. Does anyone have an email address for Judge Carter? We could mount a campaign…

  203. On Now!

    Leo Donofrio explains the pursuit he shares with Terri K, of the Obama Birth Certificate (if that is what it is) based upon the State of Hawaii’s implicit admission that it has been amended.

    And, as Leo Donofrio explains, Hawaiian official, Dr. Fukino’s pronouncements about it should open the door, under Hawaii’s Open Records Law (UIPA) to the disclosure of the birth certificate, itself.
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Sentinel_Radio/2009/10/06/Leo-Donofrio-on-the-New-Obama-Birth-Certificate-Investigation-on-The-Awakening

  204. Monday, October 05, 2009
    TONIGHT WE KICK OFF “BIRTHER” WEEK
    ON THE ANDREA SHEA KING SHOW
    TONIGHT on the Andrea Shea King Show, we kick off a week-long look at the cases being brought against Barack Hussein Obama challenging his Constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President.
    Tonight we talk with Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg, the first American to legally challenge Obama to produce his birth records.
    Currently Berg has three pending cases in the Federal Courts. Tonight he’ll update us on all of them.
    Join us at 9p ET by linking here:
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ASKShow/2009/10/06/The-Andrea-Shea-King-Show

  205. http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/10/05/clinton_obama/index.html

    Get a glimpse of how Dems view Repubs. Should Repubs be rejoicing?

  206. When the attacks get this weird, you know the opposition is worried about something. All because one person refuses to release documents for the world to see.
    http://www.breitbart.tv/msnbc-host-right-dont-care-if-half-the-country-dies-in-order-to-take-down-obama/

  207. Patriot Dreamer

    jc, please explain what you mean by “black swan”. Thanks.

  208. Kim // October 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Hi Kim,

    Sorry to say that the Judge has already made up his mind.

    Please pardon the cynicism, but JJ @9:35 is right.

  209. BTW, someone should tell Bill, in virology, virulence is what kills, not strength.

  210. My understanding is that we buy Saudi Oil and we don’t drill here, then they buy our debt (use US dollars.) If they stop using the dollar, we have the right to drill.
    If we had Sarah Palin in there, no problem!
    But as it stands it looks real bad…

  211. Patriot Dreamer

    Notes from Orly/Kreep’s hearing earlier today:
    http://www.scribd.com/full/20658448?access_key=key-1t4r9c2ay6ocrb0pdv8e

  212. SueK // October 5, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Kim // October 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Hi Kim,

    Sorry to say that the Judge has already made up his mind.

    Please pardon the cynicism, but JJ @9:35 is right.

    Kim, he’s stalling…he made up his mind as soon as he set the ‘fake’ trial date…….and the info about him already setting schedules with his lawyers for that trial, etc…I smell bull and I grew up on a farm.

    If this man (and I use that word lightly) had any intention of settling this issue using his court, then move on, bring it, get going, do the dance, color the page, poop or get off the pot Carter!!

    And, I pray I’m wrong.

  213. Jacqlyn Smith

    SueK // October 5, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // October 5, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Thanks, Jackie…I’m getting my judges mixed up.

    Still, to have an A.G. and a trial judge together when there is an open case regarding Barky’s eligibility to be CIC looks pretty bad

    ******************************************

    Holder is a THUG as well…he needs to be behind bars as well!!!!!!!!!!!

  214. Jacqlyn Smith

    hey all…I know some of you visit TRSOL…if you do….I need help telling the OBOTS where to stick it…I have them all riled up because I won’t give them a straight answer which I don’t plan to again….they are morons over there…..they all wear blinders and ear plugs…..go figure…no wonder they don’t know the TRUTH!!

  215. JS–What is trsol? I’ll go there as long
    as they don’t have a cyber attack on the
    link. I won’t stay long, left Gretawire
    because of the obots lunatics that messed
    up that blog. Do we use our same user name?

  216. Patriot Dreamer–here is a link to the term “black swan”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

  217. Holder is a thug. He isn’t going to be any good as a special prosecuter against bho. And if another
    special prosecuter is “appointed” by Holder,
    how impartial is that?!

  218. Patriot Dreamer

    maddie, trsol is:

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/

    Watch out for the Obots!

  219. Patriot Dreamer // October 5, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Thanks for the link, PD.

    What a mess!

    Although I admire Orly a great deal and support her, raising her voice, pounding on the table, and going off on tangents (so says WavyDavey’s report) aren’t gonna help.

    Say what you will about Kreep, he presented his arguments well and seems to have exercised the proper courtroom etiquette.

    I dunno, but I don’t have a good feeling; less of a good feeling after reading this report.

  220. Patriot Dreamer

    twe, thank you for the link. Hasn’t this been predicted for several months, though? I guess it will be a surprise to the rest of the United States, because the “dinosaur media” hasn’t been doing their job. They’ve been too busy fawning over Obama & friends!

  221. JJ,

    Didn’t have much hope. We’ve gotten our hopes up time and time again to no avail. That’s why I want someone to try the Superior Court in DC.
    I know Rod Glass is testing this court for a non-eligibility case and has been reporting on PatriotsHeart, but I feel like we are running out of time!

  222. Patriot Dreamer

    I have a bad feeling about it, too, SueK. I hope I’m wrong.

  223. jc // October 5, 2009 at 8:24 pm,

    I know all about petro dollars and “peak oil”.

    I will say this. The U.S. has enough oil to feed the world for another 100 years, and then some. This is one of the last frontiers and has been under lock and key for nearly a half century. Whoever maintains the last oil rights for drilling wins the “peak oil” game and ultimately the super-rights to prosperity over the next 200 years.

    That is why states like Montana and Texas are claiming sovereignty. When they do the feds can’t play games with their mineral rights. Montana has a tremendous amount of power with the amount of oil and natural resources, something nobody predicted when Montana was layed down as a state back in 1889.

    This is all big wheels in motion. America will suffer for another 10 years until all this shakes out in the Middle East. Once that’s done, we will begin to drill here, and drill heavily to feed the demands in the Far East. Now you see why China has been buying up debts from the U.S. so that it can use it when they need to start buying oil from us in 2020 and beyond.

    That’s IF we can stay together as a nation that long…

  224. truthbetold11

    the soldier video on the betrayal a must see

  225. thanks, Patriot Dreamer.
    I’m going to post something over there as
    JS suggested. Then, I’ll be right back.

  226. Patriot Dreamer

    Phil at TRSOL blog points out something important from the unofficial transcript starting on page 32:

    “To the audience he said, your applause has not influenced me at all, one way or the other.

    To Orly he said, apparently you’ve encouraged people to call me on your blog. Please discourage the phone calls. They don’t help. It was inappropriate for you to do that. However, it won’t bear on my decision.”

  227. I am sooooooooo glad that Orly is representing you guys. I just read her latest filing. She is a gift that keeps on giving. I mean come on now, the judge should recuse himself because he has stock in MICROSOFT? My God.

  228. post 10:53

    Well moving right along…..

  229. JS–I posted a comment over there. I was
    only the second comment on Mon.

  230. Orly was OUTLAWYERED!! There’s nothing ominous about it. They ran circles around her! There’s no doubt this case will soon be dismissed.

  231. Patriotic D—I just read that, too. Don’t think
    the judge wants any calls, that’s for sure.
    Wonder about e-mails?

  232. We’re getting regular non-stop TV ads from a
    doctor who is against govt. run health care.
    Anyone else getting them?

  233. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

    Interview with Charles Lincoln, about the details of the hearing and legal arguments used and heard

  234. Patriot Dreamer // October 5, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Yeah, PD, but there are other avenues. I didn’t have much hope for this one, even though I was praying for the right set of circumstances.

    Looks as if we’ve been infiltrated by Barky’s Brigade. Why ‘they’ don’t wanna know the truth about this dude is beyond me.

  235. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    TWE,

    I agree…

    We need to pray to Our Lady of the Rosary, to vanquest the enemies of Christendom, and give Judge Carter the wisdom to decide aright

  236. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK, it must be the Kool-Aid! 😉

  237. Thanks JeffM,

    I figured you would have a good grasp and would share. I hope you are correct about your oil estimates.

    There is a difference as I understand it between the reserve currency and petrodollars. Petrodollars came about after we left the gold standard with the deal Kissinger made with OPEC to only sell oil in dollars. The reserve currency has been talked about for quite sometime.

    “Iran announced late last month that it’s foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euro’s rather than dollars.”

    Dollars? Euros? What’s the difference? The difference is this, if you are the dominant currency you can support, prop up, overindulge, your grand lifestyle and war machine by printing more when you run out. Take that power away and there will be a very painful economic dislocation in the US.

    If we lose the petrodollar it weakens further the already weak US dollar and should lead to higher oil prices.

    Patriot Dreamer~Nassim Taleb wrote a book a while back about the “black swan”. Basically it is a surprise event that has a huge impact. It is discussed often in the capital market blogs.

  238. venice-I think my old buddy Bill Clinton is losing it. Obama has no records that he has shown, this is not a right wing conspiracy. Obama could end all speculation tonight by keeping his word “most transparent administration in history”, what is this the White House Comedy Hour?
    ACORN SEIU Fraud Scandals Bill, Obama came out of the most corrupt area of the nation, possibly the world, most of his administration is as mobbed up as he is. This is not a right wing conspiracy.
    See GiGi Gaston’s video WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED about the attacks and I mean attacks on Hillary Clinton supporters during the convention, the DNC is lucky no one was killed during their law of the jungle thug practices.
    Looks like ACORN across the board committed voter fraud wherever, and whenever they could. This is not a right wing conspiracy.
    We Democrats are running away from this nutty wing of the Democratic party as fast as we can. They are a shame and a scandal to the Democratic party. I wouldn’t worry about losing the elections in 2010 that is a forgone conclusion. Thanks to Obama and gangsters there may not be a Democratic party left to worry about. Why? Because they are incompetent and corrupt. The media may be blacked out, but somehow we found out about their criminal activities and we are disgusted at what we saw. The Democrats have no one to blame but themselves, none of the things that are listed are right wing conspiracy material. It is all acts perpetrated by the Democrats themselves.

  239. Patriot Dreamer

  240. Jacqlyn Smith

    Patriot Dreamer // October 5, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Notes from Orly/Kreep’s hearing earlier today:

    ********************************************

    It is too bad we can’t get Apuzzo in front of Carter….I think he would not get as flustered as Orly and keep the composure….Orly has the experience of a dictatorship and is so afraid of what is taking place here!!!

  241. Civis Naturaliter Natus-We entered the Constitutional Crisis phase the minute Obama took the “oath of office”, which can’t count since he is ineligible in the first place. I wouldn’t worry about plunging into a Constitutional Crisis we are already in it. Severe want to solve that right away have Pelosi confess, Obama removed USA legal government.
    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/
    “Basically I think Judge Carter is aware the whole world is looking at him, and if he decides for the Plaintiffs that he is basically plunging the U.S. into the most severe constitutional crisis, and It think he is proceeding very “

  242. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    maddie // October 5, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    JS–What is trsol? I’ll go there as long
    as they don’t have a cyber attack on the
    link. I won’t stay long, left Gretawire
    because of the obots lunatics that messed
    up that blog. Do we use our same user name?
    *******************************************

    Maddie…go to

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com

    it’s the same one that jbjd was talking about that posted the wrong information from her site!!

  243. Patriot Dreamer

    JS, I agree. Mario Apuzzo seems to be cool and collected (at least at his blog). I think he would be a good balance to her.

  244. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Jim // October 5, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    I am sooooooooo glad that Orly is representing you guys. I just read her latest filing. She is a gift that keeps on giving. I mean come on now, the judge should recuse himself because he has stock in MICROSOFT? My God.
    *******************************************
    Jim the OBOT—- ORLY ISN’T THE ONLY ONE FILING COURT CASES AND DON’T FORGET….WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE 4TH BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT….YOU HAVE YET TO SEE THE END OF THIS!!!! BTW….YOU ARE RIPE FOR THE CHAVEZ REGIME…..THINK ABOUT MOVING THERE….HE HAS A JOB FOR YOU….WIPE HIS BOOTS OR HIS A$$…YOUR CHOICE…MORON!!

  245. The petrodollar system requires other countries to build up huge trade surpluses in order to accumulate the dollar surpluses they need to buy oil. These countries have to sell more goods in dollars than they buy, to give them a positive dollar balance. That is true for every country except the United States, which controls the dollar and issues it at will…but, the tide is changing.

    So, when a different currency than the dollar is mandated – a currency that we cannot PRINT at will – then we are up a creek without a paddle because we don’t manufacture anything. We are a consumer/service nation. Debtors.

    Of course, the Federal Reserve control and that of commercial banking system come into play here, as well.

    Petrodollar deal brokered by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger – to sell oil only for dollars in return for a secret US agreement to arm Saudi Arabia and keep the House of Saud in power. “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”…for details.

  246. Patriot Dreamer // October 5, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Yup…must be pretty potent stuff, PD. Personally, I don’t want any-it makes you psychotic!

  247. Jacqlyn Smith // October 5, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Right, Jackie, and Phil kicked it right back. His site’s always a good read, bar the Obots that don’t give up.

  248. “I am sooooooooo glad that Orly is representing you guys. I just read her latest filing. She is a gift that keeps on giving. I mean come on now, the judge should recuse himself because he has stock in MICROSOFT? My God.”
    ————————————————————

    So Jim, you’re saying that if a “good” lawyer was on the case, you’re guy would be screwed?

    It’s funny, it’s the same thing every time one of these cases comes to a deadline—you Obots hold your breath, and then let a loud putrid sigh when O gets away with it again. You all know he’s a fraud. Because if you didn’t, you’d be asking him to put this to rest forever, and annihilate his opponents by simply providing his lawyers with the proof that would end this once and forever.

    But he can’t. He doesn’t any proof. He’s a phony.

  249. Linda from NY

    What Happened to Hope?

    Oh what a day, what a day this has been;
    From beginning to end and back again;
    Posturing, questioning, and declining to say;
    What law will we need to save the day?

    Lady Liberty and Creepy Creep were really on fire;
    To the applause of the attendees and the Judge’s ire;
    And what did the good Judge decide he would do?
    Postpone his decision and let the chaos ensue!

    What happened to Hope; where did it go?
    Into the 9th Circuit under Quo Warranto.
    No standing, no injury, no jurisdiction;
    We the People could have made that prediction!

    So Judge Carter, what decision will you make?
    In our favor we think if you’re not on the take.
    Against us, though, if your silence was bought
    A prelude we got to the decision you sought.

    We’re warning you, Judge, to behave yourself;
    And don’t put this problem back on the shelf;
    For if you decide you cannot stand tall;
    Then, we will be back, and we’ll make the call!

    Linda

  250. To those of you who seem PROUD of the notion that a United States judge would rule based on the desires of the group of people in his courtroom, rather than the merits of the case . . . you should be ashamed of yourselves. That goes double to the idiots who feel comfortable trying to sway a UNITED STATES JUDGE via phone/email/letters. Disgusting. We are all equal before the law, and that means that judges CANNOT rule based on anything but the merits of a case. To do otherwise would violate every ethics canon in the United States Judiciary and you should be ashamed for even suggesting it.

    I read the affidavit Dr. Taitz submitted today in the Rhodes case, and dear Lord in heaven above it is pathetic. No judge would ever consider it to be evidence of anything. A man claims he saw someone who looked like Eric Holder walk into a coffee shop? Really? She’ll be laughed out of court. Anyone who portrayed this as evidence of anything—regardless of the underlying case—would be laughed out of court.

    I don’t understand where the idea that ‘the judge threw out the case, he must’ve been bribed!’ is coming from. I’ve read the documents submitted by both sides, and based on these, only bribes would allow a self-respecting Judge to NOT throw out the case! The plaintiff bears the burden of proof, but what has been submitted to the Courts has only been circumstantial, unsubstantiated, and just plain absurd. I know it’s enough to convince people here, but frankly, it seems like people here are making up their minds and then seeking ‘proof’ to back up what they already ‘know.’ We do not live in Soviet Russia, and our courts do not operate that way. We do not want them to operate that way. No person who does want them to operate that way deserves to call himself or herself a ‘patriot,’ as he or she is trampling on the very foundation of our democracy.

    The only reason these cases are being heard at all is because, in the US, we cherish the ability to redress our grievances through a neutral court system. But the courts are required to follow the actual laws of the US, not a private citizen’s interpretation of the laws of the US.

  251. JeffM, about the militias, I’m sure there are many honorable people who are members of the militias; but time is short, and I honestly don’t see them being strong enough, even if they unite, to be able to stop the enemy forces that are presently tearing this country apart.

    The militias will be somewhat effective in guerilla warfare delaying operations against foreign occupying armies that are most likely to be on our soil in the near future.

    If it comes down to it the same can be said of the militias if they end up having to fight against our own military, if our military decides to move against the American people by following orders given by the Commander in Fraud.

    I wonder what the members of the U.S. military are going to end up doing. Are they going to continue to follow the orders given to them by the Commander in Fraud, or are they going to honor their oath that they swore to uphold.

  252. Linda from NY

    You’re a genius…………

  253. Linda from NY

    Army D.A.V.: Feel Better?

    Not mine, but He who sent me! Thanks.

  254. Linda from NY

    Carville Calls Anchor ‘Out-and-Out Nuts’

    http://news.aol.com/article/james-carville-calls-glenn-beck-nuts/702767?icid=main|main|dl1|link7|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fjames-carville-calls-glenn-beck-nuts%2F702767

  255. https://www.dccourts.gov/pa

    DALE v. UNITED STATES (dba corporation) Could Place All Federal Corporate Charters In Jeopardy

    Washington, D.C. — A potential landmark case was filed into the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, 500 Indiana Ave. NW, Room JM-170, Washington, DC 20001 on July 29, 2009. The case seeks, among other multiple remedies, the nullification of all Federal Corporate Charters, and
    is quietly gaining traction as the numerous named Defendants continue to default Court protocol and procedure.

    The named, lead Defendant is Eric H. Holder, Jr, Attorney General of the UNITED STATES, in his corporate capacity.

    Summonses were formally ordered by Chief Judge Lee F. Satterfield and issued by the Plaintiff starting on July 30, 2009 for Mr. Holder at 950 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, WASHINGTON, DC 20530.

    The case is officially designated as DALE, RODNEY Vs. UNITED STATES, Case No. 2009 CA 005391 B, in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and is docketed for an Initial Scheduling Conference at 9:30 am on Friday, November 6, 2009 before Judge Brian F. Holeman in Courtroom A-49, 515 5th Street NW, WASHINGTON, DC 20001. Judge Holeman’s Chambers’ phone number is 202-879-7815.

    The case is styled, by the Court, as a “Complaint for Fraud” on behalf of the American people and places ALL interlocking Corporate Charters in this country in question. This means that the Federal Corporate charters, on down to the smallest political subdivisions (city or town), are in jeopardy and alleged to be in violation of their written and enumerated Fiduciary duties.

    In addition, because of the style of the Plaintiff’s filing, ALL courts in the 50 states, including the United States Supreme Court, have been interlocked as parties to this suit.

    Rodney Dale Class of High Shoals, North Carolina filed the case in conjunction with Carl Weston of Oklahoma with both serving as Private Attorneys General on behalf of the American people. Both Mr. Class and Mr. Weston are serving as Private Attorneys General under seals of both North Carolina and Oklahoma. In addition, their status is recognized by the Senate Judiciary Committee under the leadership of Sen. John Conyers, Jr. (D – MI).

    You may follow the docketing history at https://www.dccourts.gov/pa by searching under DALE, RODNEY at the link, or, you may call the Court directly for status updates by contacting either Derrick Monroe, Branch Chief of the Court at (202) 879-1143 or Clerk of the Court, Duane B. Delaney at (202) 879-1400.

    One other interesting twist to this case is that Mr. Class styled his name in the initial complaint as Rodney-Dale; Class. The Court then styled the official name of the case as DALE, RODNEY Vs. UNITED STATES…thus converting Mr. Class’ middle name to his last name in the Court records!

    We are still assessing the implications of this action.

  256. UpstateWarrior, did you see the police and national guard in Pittsburgh for the G20? Using LRAD against American citizens? What about the private company APF in Montana? Oh, sorry, they changed their name and their serbian coat of arms so they appear less threatening…
    Our military is being left to be decimated in Afghanistan…maybe they would have come to our aid if they were home.

  257. America right now is operating just like a car that is completely out of gas which is moving downhill. It is just a matter of time before it comes to a complete stop.

    The day that man Soetoro was allowed to be sworn in as President of the United States, was when America’s completely out of gas downhill ride began.

  258. I wonder why Orly hasn’t authenticated the Kenyan BC yet………?

    We could start sending them around , like the joint chiefs .

  259. 2 HR HAWK! with Greg Evensen TRIBULATION END of the REPUBLIC CURRENT ALERT INFO Sept 24 Pt 1 of 12

  260. Here is a list of the 30 remaining Obama Czars, after Van Jones departure.
    Afghanistan Czar: Richard Holbrooke
    AIDS Czar: Jeffrey Crowley
    Auto recovery Czar: Ed Montgomery
    Border Czar: Alan Bersin
    California Water Czar: David J. Hayes
    Car Czar: Ron Bloom
    Central Region Czar: Dennis Ross
    Domestic Violence Czar: Lynn Rosenthal
    Drug Czar: Gil Kerlikowske
    Economic Czar: Paul Volcker
    Energy and Environment Czar: Carol Brower
    Faith-Based Czar: Joshua DuBois
    Great Lakes Czar: Cameron Davis
    Green Jobs Czar: Van Jones – Resigned
    Guantanamo Closure Czar: Daniel Fried
    Health Czar: Nancy-Ann DeParle
    Information Czar: Vivek Kundra
    International Climate Czar: Todd Stern
    Intelligence Czar: Dennis Blair
    Mideast Peace Czar: George Mitchell
    Pay Czar: Kenneth Feinberg
    Regulatory Czar: Cass Sunstein
    Science Czar: John Holdren
    Stimulus Accountability Czar: Earl Devaney
    Sudan Czar: J. Scott Gration
    TARP Czar: Herb Allison
    Terrorism Czar: John Brennan
    Technology Czar: Aneesh Chopra
    Urban Affairs Czar: Adolfo Carrion Jr.
    Weapons Czar: Ashton Carter
    WMD Policy Czar: Gary Samore

  261. Hi Kim, yes I saw those want to be robo cops at the G20 meeting. They make me sick…a complete disgrace they were.

    Our troops in Afganistan and in Iraq need to come home because how are you going to fight overseas for the freedom of other people when your own country is conquered and being lead by a foreign enemy.

  262. The day that man Soetoro was allowed to be sworn in as President .

    **************

    Oath was null and void ….

  263. In Violation of the Constitution: Obama Takes On Chairmanship of UN Security Council — http://www.infowars.com/in-violation-of-the-constitution-obama-takes-on-chairmanship-of-un-security-council/#

  264. Arabs Plot To Drop Dollar- part: The US discussed the trend briefly at the G20 summit in Pittsburgh; the Chinese Central Bank governor and other officials have been worrying aloud about the dollar for years. Their problem is that much of their national wealth is tied up in dollar assets.

    “These plans will change the face of international financial transactions,” one Chinese banker said. “America and Britain must be very worried. You will know how worried by the thunder of denials this news will generate.”

    Iran announced late last month that its foreign currency reserves would henceforth be held in euros rather than dollars. Bankers remember, of course, what happened to the last Middle East oil producer to sell its oil in euros rather than dollars. A few months after Saddam Hussein trumpeted his decision, the Americans and British invaded Iraq.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/the-demise-of-the-dollar-1798175.html

  265. Remember, parabolic dishes can divert sonic weapons, mylar protects against microwave (millimeter wave) weapons.

  266. The day that man Soetoro was allowed to be sworn in as President .

    **************

    Oath was null and void ….

    BTW.

    Before one can take an oath of office , you have to clear a tripleI background check.

  267. As Greg explained in the Hawk interview he was wrong on Oklahoma.But the Mass gov signed a similar bill that is in the House now.And a domino effect will take place after a false flag event or a jump in deaths in the next month.

  268. This one I am leery on as she should’ve given her real name as long as she didn’t mask her voice or face.Still,this whole takeover of the USa is real and coming soon.The Con Crisis with Obama was planned long ago,and no judge or lawyer or spineless Reps will stop it. Forced vaccinations:

  269. Limited time….Follow up

  270. The Swine Flu is not the killer.It is the thimersol,and squalene adjuvants in the vaccine.The planned depopulation program has been in the works for decades.The elitists desire all this uprising and fury in Americans and people all over the world with their passing of draconian laws.THey don’t care about our guns or the 50% of the military and police on our side.They have incredibel high technology on their side.They do not need millions of footsoldiers.THe ones needed have been coming here and training since the 1970s.

  271. “We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
    David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991

  272. “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”
    Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991 You can find a zillion NWO quotes from this year,and especially the past nine months.

  273. “No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.”
    David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

  274. Messenger, the mandatory swine flu vaccination that the military has to take, is a line in the sand that has been drawn for every person who is in the military. Many are not going to take this swine flu shot. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    ARMY D.A.V., I guess when it came time for Barry’s background check, the folks in charge of seeing that this was done, were off their post in the same way NORAD was on 911.

  275. Pray for your safety in the coming months.This nation is not going to be restored to a Republic.Carter will follow his second oath to the UN and Corp Con,not the organic Con.The blood of millions of aborted babies and other sins of this nation has us under the judgement of God.That is not a nice message to hear,but it is true.Barry was made World President at the UN and G20 Meetings.It isn’t public knowledge to the sleeeping masses,but it will be in the future.Please prepare.

  276. This is why the Congressmen and Senators flip us off a Tea Parties and the eligbility issues.—-

  277. That is where they are going under COG Continuity of Governemt as they were told in March,2008

  278. A lot of interesting comments here about the dollar being dumped.

  279. OLD SOUTH……………………………………..

    Ref; the Turkish – Christian War that has been mentioned herein. It is interesting to note that half of Cyprus is still ruled today by Turkey. What do you suppose General Patton would do with this situation, and Soetoro? Sadly I am not sure that we have any Generals left who have golfballs the size of Pattons; in which case we will have to find someone who matches Patton. World war 2 was put in the hands of the top brass,NOT CONGRESS, and that IS the primary reason why it is the last war we won. The wars after WW2 were micro managed by Congress and we all have witnessed the Congressional level COWARDICE, and POLITICAL CORRECTNESS from the jackasses, and total nincompoops who called themselves L-E-A-D-E-R-S. As a veteran of two services,I don’t consider Soetoro to be the legal CIC,nor do I respect HIM as such. Until he proves to me that he is the legal CIC I will continue to look upon him as a usurper. Today I was wondering how long General McKhrystal will put up with being led by a jackass.

  280. Economic boycott, folks….

    If the courts don’t play ball, the
    birthers should start calling
    NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX and
    start BOYCOTTING their products.

    Believe me, this is their worst nightmare.
    Jesse Jackson has used economic
    boycotts successfully for years.

    If advertisers start pulling ads, all
    hell breaks loose from stockholders,
    and they will be forced to research
    and report the Natural Born Citizen
    story fairly and accurately. If a
    boycott plan was circulated on
    Patriot sites online, it would spread
    like wildfire. The court stonewall
    today after a month of waiting is
    the last straw….

  281. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/editorial-oct-6-2009-%e2%80%94-the-hillary-moment-use-it-or-lose-it/

    The Hillary Moment: use it or loose it…

    Why Hilary Clinton is the most powerful person on the planet this week, and this week only…

  282. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Civis Naturaliter Natus // October 6, 2009 at 2:38 am

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/editorial-oct-6-2009-%e2%80%94-the-hillary-moment-use-it-or-lose-it/

    The Hillary Moment: use it or loose it…

    Why Hilary Clinton is the most powerful person on the planet this week, and this week only…
    *****************************************

    CNN…Did you read this??? This guy is on another planet if he really believes this will happen…..he should pray that hell freezes over….that is a better chance than HRC ratting out her party and the FRAUD….Clinton’s have integrity….the two just don’t go together as we have seen many times before!!

  283. Perversion 101: Kids taught ‘gay’ sex, rape, bestiality

    High school teacher keeps job after handing out pornographic ‘banned book’

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112014#

  284. Jacqlyn Smith

    You guys will love this write up….go to…..to read the entire thing…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/05/AR2009100503819.html
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Burden Of Proof
    A dentist and lawyer, Orly Taitz has plenty to keep her busy. But a side passion is what consumes her these days: challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president.

    Orly Taitz’s Orange County, Calif., dental office is adjacent to her law office, from which she has challenged Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president.
    Orly Taitz’s Orange County, Calif., dental office is adjacent to her law office, from which she has challenged Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president. (By Jonathan Alcorn For The Washington Post)

    Orly Taitz is among the most prominent figures in the movement questioning Obama’s qualifications. She has filed at least five court cases challenging the president’s legitimacy. “He is lying about his identity,” she says of Obama.
    Orly Taitz is among the most prominent figures in the movement questioning Obama’s qualifications. She has filed at least five court cases challenging the president’s legitimacy. “He is lying about his identity,” she says of Obama. (By Jonathan Alcorn For The Washington Post)

    By Liza Mundy
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Tuesday, October 6, 2009

  285. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    J.S.

    I guess you missed the irony….

  286. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    J.S., kind of like irony in the reverse sense of the WP piece on Orly, which attempts to make fun of virtue, integrity, normalcy, humility, honor and perseverance.

    I think Charlton is saying, put your cards on the table, Hillary, and lets see what you really are:

    because not to act, would be to signify the opposite of all the praise he indicates would be hers for acting…

    You just got to read a bit deeper…its very polite satire…

  287. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    As for the WP Piece it says:

    “But never mind! The myth of ineligibility has embedded itself in the consciousness of determined adversaries, chief among them Taitz, who in her allegation-filled but congenial interview explains why she wants Obama to surrender the vital records that underlie the computer-generated document. She has developed a scenario whereby Obama’s American mother gave birth in Kenya, his father’s native country, then persuaded bureaucrats to falsify his records and ease him back into this country. She also conjectures that he may be a citizen of Indonesia, where Obama lived for a time after his mother remarried. ”

    This guy is on Mars, I think Charlton has his feet on the Earth…

  288. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Actually I’ll give the WP credit for this.

    Theirs is very sophisticated propaganda, designed to pyscologically deepen the emotional attatchemnt of obots to the regime…

    The problem is, that it presupposes that they are worried about that loyalty and think that making one laugh is a way of guaranteeing their followers to keep licking the boots…

    Laughs don’t equate with higher taxes, ruined health care, destroyed national industries, or 10% unemployment…

    There is just some real things that people need, not fawning laughter…

  289. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/oct-5th-hearing-political-cartoon/

    This would be funny if the situation weren’t so dire…

  290. This from Messenger proves the TOTAL FINANCIAL, SPIRITUAL AND POLITICAL BANKRUPTCY OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NOT TO MENTION ALSO ITS’ ARROGANCE.

  291. The South wrote:

    ” // October 5, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    I might add: Even if Carter later rules to allow the case to go forward, he was still indecisive.

    He’s taken way too long in this case.

    When you have evidence in front of you that overwhelmingly points in the direction of fraud, you should not allow the fraud to continue, not even for one minute.

    This is just as bad as having caught a serial killer on tape, and postponing the killers lockup 30 days down the road.

    Now he has time to kill again.

    Now Obama and his minions have time to get to him, whether it be threats, and auto accident, food poisoning, threats to his family, etc.

    When you’ve caught the killer, you don’t let him go because you want to review the tapes one more time before you make your decision.

    You lock his ass up, and then you review the tapes.”

    ~~~~

    TS, the crime analogy is so apt! I was thinking along the same lines yesterday. This ineligibility case reminded me of a crime of murder, when it is obvious who did it, but the local police let the murderer wander around scott-free, and don’t make any attempt to aprehend or punish him. Meanwhile, the idiot criminal continues to terrorize the people. That’s EXACTLY what we have here!

  292. Hope this quote is right. I just saw it at FRepublic:

    “Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding fine;
    Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness all He grinds.”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2354872/posts?q=1&;page=101

    It’s from a thread on the birth certificate, worth a trip over there if you have the time and inclination.

  293. OMG, if the judge really said these things, he’s an idiot. It totally sounds Obama-zombie-ish, and makes no sense whatsoever.

    Aren’t judges supposed to have excellent reasoning skills?

    From FRepublic:

    Judge Carter’s words:
    “Regardless, the vast majority of the people I know who have run for government office are honest and ethical.”

    I think we can see where this is going.

    “What if (McCain’s) mother had been in transit to West Germany and he had been born prematurely” in flight? Carter proposed. “How can you take the child of an American mother and say he can’t run for president.”

    So there’s no difference btw citizenship and natural born citizenship in this judge’s mind.

    No one has questioned reports that Obama’s Kansas-born mother was an American citizen.

    Or whether she’s even his mother.

    Carter also took exception to two Kenyan documents filed by Taitz that she alleges may prove that Obama was born in Kenya. Both documents have drawn skepticism from experts.

    What experts?

    “Why am I going outside of my country for documents?” Carter asked. “I always thought our records and our country was to be emulated. These birth documents from Kenya are controversial.”

    We’re going outside the country for documents because there are no comparable documents, ie. long form BC, to be found in country.

    How dense.

    11 posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 6:07:42 PM by TheThinker

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2355485/posts

  294. Patriot Dreamer
  295. Patriot Dreamer

    “Opting Out of Medicare:
    A lawsuit challenges federal coercion in your choice of health care”
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574446831381142174.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  296. Good Morning fellow CWers & Christian Contitutionalists & others.

    Sorry to hear about the “DELAY” in CA especially after Carter said there would be no delays. Looks like we have a Hero turned into Goat in Santa Ana.

    Another few names for the Skunk from the news yesterday:

    O-beta-male
    Vice-queen (of England in USA)
    O’Fraud

  297. This is a good idea, Jacqlyn:

    “Jacqlyn Smith // October 5, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    twe // October 5, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Attorney Orly Taitz submits exhibit supporting motion to recuse Judge Land because of purported influence by Attorney General Eric Holder:

    *******************************************

    I think Taitz needs to subpoena all records on Holder’s whereabouts on that date….also if he was in a coffee shop he probably purchased something….maybe they have a record of what he purchased???”

  298. In case anyone missed this when Orly’s site was hacked. All this hacking all the time I wonder what that is supposed to mean.
    Posted on | September 18, 2009 | 1 Comment
    Blog entry today from – “I work for major news company”…
    Friday, September 18, 2009 4:17 PM
    From:
    This sender is DomainKeys verified
    redacted
    To:
    dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    This is unverified, but it is a blog entry that was just posted today on RepubX:
    “I work for a major news company, however, I am unaware of the canadafreepress story that you refer to. I am forced to use masked, out of country, anonymous internet proxies just to post this blog. I don’t know whose lives are at risk, I don’t know the names of all of the lawmakers involved in the case. I have only been given vague information and that information has nervously come in bits and pieces from several credible sources and one lawmaker. I do know that, according to my sources that, the Barack Obama presidency is in serious question. My original source has become sources, and now more people are talking. Most of the insiders in Washington, California and Texas will shape how this will play out with Carter, Orly and Keyes. The Rhodes case is a last resort, a southern court, a southern judge, and a military officer refusing to deploy is a problem. But if Obama has any hand in dismissal, it will be known, and the bribed will be sought. Keyes vs. Obama will be the case I can most assure you. You have to understand that even though most of the concerned citizens want the story to come out now, there are federal agencies, and sectors within those agencies, who thankfully are currently disconnected from control and influence of the White House, who’s work is not finished. Most conservative and even liberal journalist alike are very desperate for the story, many of them want it to save their own careers which they know are now in question. I am getting hints that this all plays out in late Oct. I do however; expect to see more Obama documents released in the next 30 days.”
    Stay Tuned
    http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/Line-of-Succession-If-ObamaSoetoro-Removed-From-Office.aspx
    Godspeed Orly

  299. Patriot Dreamer

    “AMA Endorses Largest Denier of Health Care Claims [Medicare]”
    http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/05/ama-endorses-largest-denier-of-health-care-claims/#

  300. Alex, He was in California for a three day conference. If she was a good lawyer, she would have checked it out before half cocked and accepting some guy (who probably thinks all black people look alike) statement. It is a wonder if that she has not been disbarred by now. This is what happens when you get your law degree through a home correspondence course. Geeez

  301. Andrea Shea King
    http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/
    Monday, October 05, 2009
    BIRTHER WEEK ALL WEEK ON
    THE ANDREA SHEA KING SHOW
    If you missed it, you MISSED it!
    This is Birther Week on the Andrea Shea King Show. If you missed it Monday, we kicked it off with attorney Phil Berg who brought us up to date with his three challenges to Obama’s eligibility. You can listen to it here. http://BlogTalkRadio.com/ASKShow into your browser.
    On Tuesday night attorney Gary Kreep with the US Justice Foundation will join us with details about what happened in a California courtroom on Monday when federal Judge David Carter heard lawyers for Obama argue that the lawsuit over his eligibility should be immediately dismissed. Carter refused to grant their request and has set a tentative trial date for Jan. 26th 2010.
    On Wednesday night we’ll be talking to attorney Andy Martin on the Fall of the House of Obama.
    Thursday, attorney Mario Apuzzo and lead plaintiff Charles Kerchner will fill us in on their suit before US District Court, District of New Jersey Judge Jerome Simandle, a case that has been dragging on since last August 3rd.
    And on Friday — we’re still nailing that one down.
    As always, we get underway at 9 p ET.
    I’m forwarding this post to Clark Hoyt, public editor at the New York Times so that he can be sure his new nameless editor — the one who’s monitoring “opinion media and bubbling controversies” — is aware of the breaking news happening on The Andrea Shea King Show during “Birther Week”.
    If you’d like to be sure the NYT’s “opinion and bubbling controversy editor” gets this, feel free to email him or her at public@nytimes.com, attention: Glady Kravitz.

  302. Peter Francisco,

    How true. “There will be no delays! On that note, I’ll tell you my decision somewhere between tomorrow and a year from now.”

    Mr. Carter belongs on in CW’s Constitutional Hall of Shame.

  303. Traitor Obama Tries Stealth
    Amnesty By Decre

    http://rense.com/general87/trait.htm

  304. Good idea, Kim!

    Kim wrote:

    ” // October 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Does anyone have an email address for Judge Carter? We could mount a campaign…”

    I’ll look for an email address. I haven’t gotten to read the comments all the way through, so please forgive me if this has already been done. 😉

  305. I urge everyone not to get too upset with Judge Carter until he rules. He’s asking all the questions that will come flooding in from all over the world should he rule in favor and trying to decide if Orly answered them well enough. Any judge would do that. just the fact that it’s gotten this far is a good sign. After all, no other judge has been willing to listen.

  306. Patriot Dreamer

    Current price of gold right now:

    $1,040!

  307. Alex,
    “Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding fine;
    Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness all He grinds.”

    That was awesome!Thanks for bringing it over. Do you know who wrote it?

    Unfortunately, it looks like Carter does not appreciate calls or emails or the will of those present in the court room that cheered Orly and Kreep yesterday.

  308. The best thing to do is for the government to release the documents, let the documents speak for themselves. Yes the government is going to looks stupid, but I’d rather look stupid now, than risk a foreign national exposing them in a speech at the UN and looking extremely stupid in front of the entire world. Remember in Netanyahu’s speech at the UN when he showed the once upon a time secret documents from Hitler’s Germany showing the plans to exterminate a race of people accompanied by many others. Nature abhors a vacuum, the American people hate secrets, being lied to, told they have no standing, being treated like imbeciles etc.

  309. Patriot Dreamer

    “You Can’t Say That
    At the UN, the Obama administration backs limits on free speech”
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/017/043ytrhc.asp

  310. I wonder who was hanging around the coffee shops near Judge Carter’s court room?

  311. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    I don’t think Carter deserves our patience, he has plainly indicated that he has decided to diss the constitution and all Scotus precedents.

    Even a non lawyer like myself can google “natural born citizen” SCOTUS Cases, and get the 4 that speak aobut this issue; and spend an afternoon reading them carefully.

    No, Judge Carter is a hack! and he is indicating politely, so as not to show that he is a hack, that he will reject the case on standing.

    Perhaps you don’t have experience seeing how gentile frauds say no; that’s exactly what he is doing…

  312. Civis Naturaliter Natus

    Look, as I said it before, we are fools if we await justice in the courts;: the political elites no longer believe in the Constitution; they are out for a complete power grab and revolution.

    We don’t need to start the civil war; they have already started it; and aim for nothing else but our enslavement…frogs that like bathing in a very slowly warming pot, will fall asleep and never wake up to realize their boiled and on a patron’s plate…

  313. Patriot Dreamer

    “The War on Specialists:
    ObamaCare punishes cardiology and oncology to finance GPs”
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574443472658898710.html

  314. Obviously “someone” has gotten to Carter. Why else would his tone have done this 180?

  315. Patriot Dreamer

    “The Democrats’ New Bob Casey Problem:
    Will ObamaCare fund abortions?”
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703298004574455481760281734.html

  316. sandy,

    Here’s my favorite quote from Carter yesterday:

    I mentioned this prior at TRSOL:

    Judge Carter to Orly:
    . “How can you take the child of an American mother and say he can’t run for president.”

    “http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/05/22819/22819/

    That right there says volumes about how much of an IDIOT Carter really is, if he really asked that question.

    OK Mr. Carter, I’ll say this. If Viktor PUTIN, son of an American mother can run for president, the first thing Viktor should do is take you back behind the woodshed and teach you what a Russian Cocktail tastes like.

    Sheesh. We’ve got a bunch of CIVICs FLUNKIES running amok in the federal and state governments.

  317. Linda from NY

    We can sit here and speculate all we want, and we will never know what is going on in Judge Carter’s mind. The questions he asked during the proceedings are quite telling. He wanted to cover “all the bases” to determine if the Defendant’s lawyers were correct in their determination whether or not his court lacked jurisdiction. Even though we know this argument along with the standing and injury arguments have been used over and over by the Defendants, Judge Carter has to address these arguments just the same in his court. He could have made a ruling right then and there, true, but if there was any question [reasonable doubt] in his mind as to which way to rule, then he could not and so, he did not. Haste makes waste, and a good judge [not saying he is one, I do not know] will take his/her time before making a ruling that could have dire consequences either way not only on him as a judge, but on his court as well. If, like Land, he makes it political, then the Defendant’s lawyers have prevailed because that is one of their arguments for their MTD. Therefore, we can only hope and pray we will finally be heard. If that is not meant to be, then we will continue to forge forward and maybe, someday we will find a way to be heard IMHO. Remember…the only way for evil to succeed is if good men do nothing.

  318. About the underground survival facilities video…sorry I am not buying it. Around 3:50 one can see the plates on the cars are not even American. Also….google underground tunnels and rice growing and one can find similar pictures and this one IDENTICAL to one pushed in the film as part of the facility when it is a working tunnel in Tokoyo:

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.pingmag.jp/images/title/deepinside.jpg&imgrefurl=http://pingmag.jp/2006/07/24/japan-underground-photography/&usg=__8hjCvAVMHjyeVtdc6sWwfxnYtGM=&h=317&w=470&sz=188&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=iXWn12WaTW8HVM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dunderground%2Btunnels%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.uphaa.com/uploads/294/underground-tunnels-3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.uphaa.com/blog/index.php/game-tunnel-underground-metro/&usg=__Y7P3sPeo7ao7OibP_zyTAU8N4Tc=&h=287&w=450&sz=15&hl=en&start=48&um=1&tbnid=xRMpkoVe8JSYSM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dunderground%2Btunnels%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DN%26start%3D40%26um%3D1

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tokyomango.com/tokyo_mango/images/2008/02/18/74082262395384_413d7945bd_o.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tokyomango.com/tokyo_mango/2008/02/subterranean-va.html&usg=__7gwPjW4wbpxqHGV8iNqWE17Y-H0=&h=318&w=500&sz=188&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=HxRquFZjxBDm3M:&tbnh=83&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgrowing%2Brice%2Bindoors%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1

  319. CNN —

    Who eats ‘boiled frogs?’ Not me!

  320. Have faith.

  321. sandy,

    People like Messenger.

  322. Linda from NY,

    Good analysis. Based on Carter, he will say there is no standing and there are no damages.

    He’s wrong on both counts, but that is what he will decide on because other courts already set an illegal precedent that violates Amendments I, IX, and X.

    Carter is a coward. He knows the correct answer because he’s struggling to make a decision.

    Mr. Carter, prove me wrong and STAND BY YOUR OATHS.

  323. Jeff M-Churchill had an American mother, and he knew he couldn’t run for President of the United States. Actually most people do understand the worlds most simple equation. All babies have (2) parents-one father, one mother. In the United States Constitituion it says parents. It has been awhile in the United States for men (fathers) to get much respect, maybe this will bring back the notion that yes fathers are important and should be respected.

  324. were off their post in the same way NORAD was on 911.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Correction, NORAD was there, Rumsfeld changed the rules.

  325. What is “messenger?” Like it or not, this video on the underground survival facilities is an easy to uncover FAKE collection of photos from various locations.

    It irritates me that people put these things together and create background noise with their bogus rumor milling. It makes it harder for those of us who truly want to seek and spread the TRUTH

  326. sandy,

    Exactly. Ever notice how these doomsday posts come on in the middle of the night. That’s when these posters are employed.

    He/she tells everyone there’s nothing the people can do, doesn’t matter how the people try to defend their rights. What nonsense. You can see by this posting that clearly what the people are doing is very troubling to this administration. Just because Carter won’t stick his neck out doesn’t mean that nothing is redeeming. Quite the contrary.

    As I said, if Carter or anything else doesn’t pan out, it should just be another incentive to keep up the good fight. Good, as in, find better and more effective alternatives.

  327. Patriot Dreamer

    “Pelosi says new tax is ‘on the table'”
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/61783-pelosi-says-new-tax-is-on-the-table#

    “The speaker also emphasized that any reworking of the tax code would not result in an increase in taxes on middle-class Americans.”

    Anyone here actually believe that?

  328. …..Messenger // October 6, 2009 at 1:50 am

    Where do you think the 3.3 trillion missing from DOD went that Rumsfeld announced on the eve of 9/11??

    Also, I read that billions were missing from the national budget(don’t remember what dept) and two sources, one from Cal and another, a Russian/US spy, had bank worksheets proving this……from the book, Michael Ruppert, ‘Crossing the Rubican’….a book of the real ‘peak oil’ in the 70’s that’s been hidden to citizens and stockholders alike.

  329. Obama is so eager to pass health care reform, he can almost taste it. The resistance to this is what really concerns them, as it should. Rasmussen recently showed only 41% accept health reform and that’s probably conservative.

  330. Patriot Dreamer

    venice // October 6, 2009 at 11:56 am

    The more details the people see, the less they like. More and more people are realizing that the health care bills are not really “reform”.

  331. Sorry, most recent poll is 46%.

  332. Linda from NY

    carmen: I do have Faith; I pray others will, too. How is everything going where you are? Have been praying for you and all concerned and hoping everyone is “counting their blessings” in all of the confusion. Thanks for all you are doing to help others and help us keep our eyes on what is important. Bless you!

  333. Civis Naturaliter Natus // October 6, 2009 at 2:38 am

    HIllary has been asked to intervene many times and refused……with her silence.
    I think little Hillary enjoys playing the SOS role as much as any of the other frauds in this administration.

  334. CNN,

    We don’t need to start the civil war; they have already started it; and aim for nothing else but our enslavement…
    \\\\

    Agreed. This is why I found the story of the peoples in Iceland important.

    For those on this site not familiar with the situation, Iceland became an “off shore” money laundering paradise for the British bankers. When the derivatives bubble burst, the people of Iceland were suddenly on the hook for billions. Their tiny country suddenly taken down. Gordon Brown seized the bank Icesave – an INTERNET bank – and was VERY generous to the British paying out what he wanted to them. Now he’s saying that the people of Iceland owe him and others.

    In comes the IMF with a loan on the table for a mere $6 billion plus interest. Keep in mind there are 300,000 people in Iceland and in 2007, their GDP was $12 billion. It was the third highest per capita in the world. Their banking system was huge! It’s really doubtful much of that money in Icesave – an Internet bank – even belonged to the peoples. The fishing industry provides 70% of their export income. Fish!!!!! Being on the hook for $6 bil is a lot of fish.

    Iceland had absolutely nothing to do with what occurred. The elite bankers did. The situation boils down to nothing but extortion. Sounds like the banker bailout, auto bailout, and the coming healthcare bailout that we taxpayers are on the hook for.

    I think others will find their story is encouraging, uplifting and full of spirit. The “human condition” is very similar to what is happening here, according to Webster Tarpley. He was hopeful we could take a page from their playbook.

  335. “Actually most people do understand the worlds most simple equation. All babies have (2) parents-one father, one mother. In the United States Constitituion it says parents.”

    Where?
    Born on USA soil = natural born citizen.

  336. Linda from NY

    Jeff M: We will not know for sure what Carter is made of until he makes his ruling. Just because he has not made a ruling yet does not mean he is a coward. He asked pertinent questions of both sides to test their mettle and their arguments. You say he asked a question about the American mother; what answer was he given? I am no legal eagle, but it seems to me he was trying to find some reason to go forward. It is my understanding this is the legal process. When cases are thrown out on technicalities, what does that tell you? It tells me someone “missed” something in their analysis/presentation. We have been grappling with these court cases since August of last year. Did we miss something? Just asking…

  337. Linda from NY
    “I have not failed. I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.”
    Thomas Alva Edison
    “then we will continue to forge forward ” which is the correct way to go. Meanwhile more ACORN frauds, voter fraud (that could be very interesting) and it is just beginning. The Pelosi double document “fun”. I just cannot imagine how much more garbage will be discovered, if we keep using our noodles we will hit upon the solution. We thought it was the Constitution, and in the end it will be the Constitution.

  338. JJ // October 6, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Civis Naturaliter Natus // October 6, 2009 at 2:38 am

    Hillary has been asked to intervene many times and refused……with her silence.
    I think little Hillary enjoys playing the SOS role as much as any of the other frauds in this administration
    _____________

    Civis,

    Hillary can choke on the Frog soup by herself and enjoy Montezuma’s revenge afterwards.

  339. Patriot Dreamer

    BO “worship” comes to a Maryland school:

    Obama,
    President Obama,
    President Obama,
    President Obama,
    President Obama–He says
    Yes we can!
    President Obama–We say
    Yes we can!
    President Obama–I say
    Yes I can!
    President Obama–He says
    Yes we can!
    Barack Obama–Oh yes he rates,
    The first Black President in the United States!
    He’s smart and he’s–so so good!
    He’ll lead this country as he should!
    He wants us all to work together,
    To make this country even better!
    Prez’ Obama says–“Yes We Can!”
    Make the US better–hand in hand!
    Obama,
    President Obama,
    President Obama,
    President Obama
    President!

    http://redmaryland.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-worship-comes-to-howard-county.html

  340. Can someone tell me why is it so difficult to understand that this usurper is not eligible to be POTUS. What are these judges thinking about. Or should I ask can they eve THINK for themselves? This case is a simple as it can get. Please judges get a grip, and stand up for the CONSTITUTION.

  341. Sandy, Venice, I don’t think we should “shoot the Messenger”.
    I think he believed that the video was real and wanted to share that knowledge with us…probably he will be relieved that Sandy found those errors!
    I know I am!
    These are troubling times and there is a lot of scary info and disinfo out there. Late at night worries seem to weigh on us harder…
    Prayer helps!

  342. Patriot Dreamer // October 6, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    Hi PD,

    After reading that, it’ll be a miracle if my lunch stays put….

  343. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Thank you for that reminder about Edison. It is so pertinent; something for us all to remember. I agree. The ACORN fraud is so widespread we could be litigating it far into the future. It’s the Constitution, stupid! Should be our battle cry, no?

  344. Linda from NY

    venice: I am glad I did not have lunch yet! YUK!

  345. sandy // October 6, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Obviously “someone” has gotten to Carter. Why else would his tone have done this 180?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Why does everyone assume he’s done a 180??

    He certainly has the ability to deceive…he, as any bloke on the street, can act, ya think??
    His decision was made the day he said this issue deserves addressing…ACTNG 101.

  346. I have no words of wisdom on Cater’s delay, only words from a heart that aches with each passing set back.

    The pendulum swings, yet time stands still.
    Each frozen minute, surreal.
    America waits.
    Freedom at stake. . .
    Captive, till truth is revealed.

  347. Patriot Dreamer

    SueK // October 6, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    LOL! Isn’t it about time for twe to show up and post some funnies to take care of that for you?!

    Heehee!

  348. LindaNY and friends, Prayer doesn’t just change things it changes everything, I thank you so much for the prayers and for the results of all those prayers. Things are going very good around here and in such a short amount of time, I am very grateful to the Churches and the groups that pitched in. I have had some real experiences with many who know nada about the inelligable POTUS, as I shared truths with them it is hard to believe people can be so void of understanding. Working closely with others has been a real eye opener. I have had some to look me up just to ask questions about the issue, I have gathered much info from this site and it has been a great help, thank you CW! From word of mouth I heard that 4 people saw Eric Holder in Columbus. This is probably 99.9% these people are reliable. There seems to be a lot of fear with average citizens on the NB issue. Fear never has been a trait of Americans. GOD bless you all!!

  349. As nutty as Obama is did it ever occur to anyone that Alan Keyes is everything Obama is not. It is almost like Obama stole Mr. Keyes identity.
    Keyes earned his PhD in government affairs from Harvard University in 1979, having written a dissertation on Alexander Hamilton and constitutional theory, under Harvey C. Mansfield.[8] Due to student deferments and a high draft number, Keyes was not drafted to serve in Vietnam. Keyes and his family were staunch supporters of the war in Vietnam, where his father served two tours of duty.[9] Keyes was criticized by opponents of the war in Vietnam, but he says he was supporting his father and his brothers, who were also fighting in the war.[10]]
    Keyes is a Natural Born Citizen, and American of African descent both sides.
    Essentially everything Obama is not. Keyes material is all documented, nothing at all from Obama. Keyes is an honest man with integrity who worked hard all his life. Obama seems to advanced via corruption or corrupt “friends” everything Obama gets near has a stain of corruption.

  350. sandy and venice: yes, this Messenger vid is a composite of several places…however, NORAD et al are well known…and made to be nuke survivable. Goes with the territory.

  351. Patriot Dreamer // October 6, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    It is, PD, and twe is overdue!

    I figure that lunch will be lost either way :(.

  352. venice // October 6, 2009 at 11:36 am

    sandy,

    People like Messenger.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    A fairy tale…….once upon a time a boy from Kenya (along with rich, socialist handlers)wanted to be president ….he hid all documents, pictures, records identifying his past..this illegal alien was voted President of the United States…

    It’s just a fairy tale noone two years ago would or could have given any credence to.

    Be careful what you make fun of.

  353. PD and SueK–are you guys psychic or what?…happy lunch!

  354. Now, here’s something:

  355. twe // October 6, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Yup, twe, it was about time for you to check in.

    Two questions:

    1. What nuclear program?

    2. What lunch?

    🙂

  356. Posting from Orlys site today

    Transcript from July 13 hearing, please read extremely important.

    Posted on | October 6, 2009 | No Comments
    I am publishing this transcript of the July 13 hearing so that the public can see the truth.
    What I’ve noticed it that Obama supporters are publishing some COMPLETE GARBAGE calling it unofficial transcripts. In reality they are distorting each and every word I am saying and trying to show me in a negative light. Somebody by name “Waveydavey” has written such garbage and distortions and Phil from “Right side of Life” posted it.
    When the transcript of the October 5 hearing is ready, I will post it.
    In reality I carried most of the hearing on my shoulders.
    Kreep showed up an hour late and was not prepared. He did not have any precedents, he did not provide a substantial argument.
    I have provided numerous points and precedents in the argument and counted any and all ridiculous assertions by the US attorneys claiming that no one citizen of this country has standing to bring challenge to this massive fraud and treason perpetrated upon the citizens of this nation by the usurper and his accomplishes (as you understand US attorneys didn’t use this very language and definitions). the public was applauding me repeatedly.
    Kreep also lied to the judge, where he stated that I have written on my blog that people should sue Kreep. I never written that- the man is a pathological liar- it is appalling what he and Wiley Drake are doing. Drake is telling the public, media and donors that I was thrown of the legal team, so that all the donations go to Kreep. Somebody, also, told the judge that I have written on my blog to people to call the judge. It never happened. I tried to correct the record but the judge would not let me speak further.
    What concerns me more then anything else, is that Judge Carter sounded completely different from what he was in prior hearings on July 13 and September 8.

    On July 13 I was entitled to get a Default judgment against Obama and postdefaultdiscovery, as I have properly sued Obama as an individual fora fraud that he committed as an individual before the election. I demanded from Judge Carter default or, if he is refusing to give me the default, I demanded a leave of court to get an interlocutory appeal. US attorney showed up at the hearing as a party of interest, representing USA and demanded to be served with the pleadings. He was stating that Obama was supposed to be served through the US attorneys office. I countered by stating that the service through US attorneys office is done, and defense by US attorneys at the expense of the tax payers is allowed only when a person is sued as a governmental official for what he did as an official. Obama defrauded the whole Nation, before becoming the president, by claiming to be eligible, and “we the people” should not pay for his defense, I served him properly and I am supposed toget a default judgment against him and a post judgment discovery.
    Judge Carter refused to give me the default. He twisted my arm time and again and pressured me to serve Obama yet again through the US attorneys office. At three different occasions at 10:40, 11:01 and 11:07 of the hearing judge Carter has assured me that if this deal is made, if I serve the US attorneys office, the case will be heard on the merits expeditiously and will not be dismissed on technicality. As I was refusing, I stated that I have great concerns that the US attorneys will be playing games, as they did in prior cases and will try to dismiss this case on technicality such as jurisdiction os standing.
    Please read 10:40 line 5.
    Court (meaning judge Carter ) is saying “In talking to you this way you are basically told, we are going to get to the MERITS (emphasis added) of this very quickly. The government is just asking for what THEY believe is proper service.” He did not state that I didn’t serve Obama properly, he is saying what They, the government, believes is the proper service.
    At 11:01 line 13. he says “I wish this would be resolved on it’s MERITS QUICKLY. And he is either not the president or he is”
    At 11:07 line 1 Judge Carter states “I mean if he is not president, he shouldn’t be president, if he is he should be. And we need to resolve it on the MERITS”
    On September the 8th judge Carter told the US Attorneys West and DeJutte that the chance of him granting motion to dismiss due to lack of standing is extremely law and he is ready to rule and have a hearing on this on Sept 11 in 3 days. At that time Gary Kreepsqueezed himself in the case representing 2 out of 48 plaintiffs and demanded more time. The hearing was postponed by nearly a month. During this month something happened. At October 5 hearing Judge Carter sounded as a completely different person. He did not sound as a brave Marine any more. He sounded scared, intimidated by somebody or something. He was trying to find ways to dump this case on another court- like DC court, drag his feet by telling us to plead the case again or dismiss on technicality- claiming no one has standing.
    I poured my heart out for over an hour, and at least he didn’t come up with a negative decision right then and there, but I am concerned. We had a clear deal back in July. If Judge Carter makes a 180 degrees turn now and rules for Obama and does not give me expedited discovery and hearing on the merits as he repeatedly promised during the July 13 hearing, then I and my clients were defrauded by the court. Then there is no system of justice for the citizens of this country.

  357. 33 page report on yesterday’s hearing, right side of life says meat is on page 32.

  358. Linda from NY

    twe: Thanks…we all needed that! Keep ’em coming, pleeeeeeese…thanks.

  359. It all makes sense now.

    Tear down the family. Make a mockery of prudish “patriotic life” to reduce love of country. Population without love of country = easily controlled. This is what the liberal agenda has been doing in the 60s. Now they are in power in the highest places.

    They are treasonous.

  360. Patriot Dreamer

    “Children Begin Receiving Swine Flu Vaccine
    Hospitals Begin Giving Kids FluMist Nasal Spray For H1N1”
    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/SwineFluNews/children-nation-begun-receiving-swine-flu-vaccine/story?id=8762580#

  361. I truly didn’t mean to insult anyone who posted the video here. That was not my intent at all.

    My arrows were aimed at the person or people who put it together …..

    It does, however, make me want to revisit the fema camp videos and check them out for fakery

  362. Linda from NY-That should be the battle cry-It’s the Constitution, stupid and It’s the Economy stupid. In America they do go hand in hand. I was reading on a site that the Republican party may take 10 seats in the Senate, as a registered Democrat I say keep up the good work. This is the worst administration I have seen bar none for all the reasons we have all mentioned here and the Republicans haven’t even started campaigning yet. Here are more ways that Republicans can win: Show the WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED video re: voter fraud ACORN, the Republicans could ask would you trust these people with anything? All the “stuff” that people want/need to get out about Obama (lies) can and should be used in all campaigns. The media will have to show it, it will be part of the election process. I don’t know how they can hide it if it is part of a campaign.

  363. Linda:

    I have often found Lame Cherry interesting and at time amusing. This time I find his post irrefutable. Please read if you can.

  364. Patriot Dreamer // October 6, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Let the culling begin, PD.

    Many aren’t aware that the nasal spray contains LIVE virus-that’s why it’s delivered like that.

    Had an H1N1 meeting yesterday…will report on the discussion when I get home tonight. It was pretty amusing…

  365. Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired)

    PLEASE NOTE: We are trying, this time, to correct a grievous wrong in a NON-VIOLENT MANNER. This Time.
    Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired)
    bobworn@aol.com

  366. There are currently over 100 kids absent from our small school on a given daya- most mothers claiming flu. The vaccine is too late, still I fear it becoming mandatory.

  367. #

    cq // October 6, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Posting from Orlys site today

    Transcript from July 13 hearing, please read extremely important.

    Posted on | October 6, 2009 | No Comments
    I am publishing this transcript of the July 13 hearing so that the public can see the truth.
    What I’ve noticed it that Obama supporters are publishing some COMPLETE GARBAGE calling it unofficial transcripts. In reality they are distorting each and every word I am saying and trying to show me in a negative light. Somebody by name “Waveydavey” has written such garbage and distortions and Phil from “Right side of Life” posted it.
    When the transcript of the October 5 hearing is ready, I will post it.
    In reality I carried most of the hearing on my shoulders.
    Kreep showed up an hour late and was not prepared. He did not have any precedents, he did not provide a substantial argument.
    I have provided numerous points and precedents in the argument and counted any and all ridiculous assertions by the US attorneys claiming that no one citizen of this country has standing to bring challenge to this massive fraud and treason perpetrated upon the citizens of this nation by the usurper and his accomplishes (as you understand US attorneys didn’t use this very language and definitions). the public was applauding me repeatedly.
    Kreep also lied to the judge, where he stated that I have written on my blog that people should sue Kreep. I never written that- the man is a pathological liar- it is appalling what he and Wiley Drake are doing. Drake is telling the public, media and donors that I was thrown of the legal team, so that all the donations go to Kreep. Somebody, also, told the judge that I have written on my blog to people to call the judge. It never happened. I tried to correct the record but the judge would not let me speak further.
    What concerns me more then anything else, is that Judge Carter sounded completely different from what he was in prior hearings on July 13 and September 8.

    On July 13 I was entitled to get a Default judgment against Obama and postdefaultdiscovery, as I have properly sued Obama as an individual fora fraud that he committed as an individual before the election. I demanded from Judge Carter default or, if he is refusing to give me the default, I demanded a leave of court to get an interlocutory appeal. US attorney showed up at the hearing as a party of interest, representing USA and demanded to be served with the pleadings. He was stating that Obama was supposed to be served through the US attorneys office. I countered by stating that the service through US attorneys office is done, and defense by US attorneys at the expense of the tax payers is allowed only when a person is sued as a governmental official for what he did as an official. Obama defrauded the whole Nation, before becoming the president, by claiming to be eligible, and “we the people” should not pay for his defense, I served him properly and I am supposed toget a default judgment against him and a post judgment discovery.
    Judge Carter refused to give me the default. He twisted my arm time and again and pressured me to serve Obama yet again through the US attorneys office. At three different occasions at 10:40, 11:01 and 11:07 of the hearing judge Carter has assured me that if this deal is made, if I serve the US attorneys office, the case will be heard on the merits expeditiously and will not be dismissed on technicality. As I was refusing, I stated that I have great concerns that the US attorneys will be playing games, as they did in prior cases and will try to dismiss this case on technicality such as jurisdiction os standing.
    Please read 10:40 line 5.
    Court (meaning judge Carter ) is saying “In talking to you this way you are basically told, we are going to get to the MERITS (emphasis added) of this very quickly. The government is just asking for what THEY believe is proper service.” He did not state that I didn’t serve Obama properly, he is saying what They, the government, believes is the proper service.
    At 11:01 line 13. he says “I wish this would be resolved on it’s MERITS QUICKLY. And he is either not the president or he is”
    At 11:07 line 1 Judge Carter states “I mean if he is not president, he shouldn’t be president, if he is he should be. And we need to resolve it on the MERITS”
    On September the 8th judge Carter told the US Attorneys West and DeJutte that the chance of him granting motion to dismiss due to lack of standing is extremely law and he is ready to rule and have a hearing on this on Sept 11 in 3 days. At that time Gary Kreepsqueezed himself in the case representing 2 out of 48 plaintiffs and demanded more time. The hearing was postponed by nearly a month. During this month something happened. At October 5 hearing Judge Carter sounded as a completely different person. He did not sound as a brave Marine any more. He sounded scared, intimidated by somebody or something. He was trying to find ways to dump this case on another court- like DC court, drag his feet by telling us to plead the case again or dismiss on technicality- claiming no one has standing.
    I poured my heart out for over an hour, and at least he didn’t come up with a negative decision right then and there, but I am concerned. We had a clear deal back in July. If Judge Carter makes a 180 degrees turn now and rules for Obama and does not give me expedited discovery and hearing on the merits as he repeatedly promised during the July 13 hearing, then I and my clients were defrauded by the court. Then there is no system of justice for the citizens of this country.

  368. Linda from NY

    Michelle: Did you see my latest poem…posted late last night? Was wondering what you thought.
    Thanks…

  369. Picking up where we left off…

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=7564

  370. Linda from NY

    venice: Sometimes, Lame Cherry gets too much into the “sex” stuff and at other times, he is “right on the mark.” I agree…this one was “irrefutable.”

  371. Linda,
    I am butting in. I read your poem last night and was inspired by your spirit and words of courage- “we will make the call.” Pop, pop, pop. . . you are on a roll.

  372. citizenwells

    **** New Post ****

  373. Linda from NY

    Ditherer-in-chief

    http://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/

    One for you, twe!

  374. I can’t understand why the washington post and other such media call BO’s ineligibility a myth. Anyway, BO has committed a lot of crimes such as fraud and treason. I think that BO should be held accountable for his crimes along with Pelosi and others involved in this fraud.

  375. a 180 degrees turn now and rules for Obama and does not give me expedited discovery and hearing on the merits as he repeatedly promised during the July 13 hearing, then I and my clients were defrauded by the court./Is there a remedy/penalty in law for a judge not keeping his word?

  376. two key questions from hearing

    -obama is arguing that it is CONGRESS that has power. The defense said wait a minute, in answer to question on impeachment. And this is: Congress can not impeach a usurper. Therefore CONGRESS is NOT the remedy. Then the remedy comes back to the court.

    question two-
    in above I mentioned this prior at TRSOL:

    Judge Carter to Orly:
    . “How can you take the child of an American mother and say he can’t run for president.”

    “http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/05/22819/22819/

    That right there says volumes about how much of an IDIOT Carter really is, if he really asked that question.

    OK Mr. Carter, I’ll say this. If Viktor PUTIN, son of an American mother can run for president, the first thing Viktor should do is take you back behind the woodshed and teach you what a Russian Cocktail tastes like.

    >>>ok, I like the response above, but WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE IN THE COURT ROOM BY THE PLAINTIFF’S attorneys?

  377. i thought this was Orly’s case? What is Kreep doing it in?

    Two many cooks in the kitchen , another fine mess.

  378. **NEW POST**

  379. After reading the court transcripts from the Barnet case, it appears that Kreep and Taitz both utterly failed, to prove Standing, Jurisdiction, and Justiciability.

    http://www.therightsideoflife.com/

  380. Linda from NY-I loved your poem. I had a thought while I was reading it. You and Prairie are so good at this, you should start dreaming up slogans for the next Republicans campaigns 2010. This is how you will be able to get the word out about all this information Obama wants to hide. Do not publish before its time because they they will do damage control. I think when some people see this information they will be shocked silly, and I know American people they will not be happy with what they see. I still think the Obama man’s victory was pyrrhic.

  381. Obama’s “Safe Schools” Czar Criticizing US Schools for “Promoting Heterosexuality by Having Kids Read Romeo and Juliet”….

  382. FCC won’t allow diversity chief to be interviewed about views:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55040

  383. Linda from NY

    twe: Please transfer that article entitled “World Bank Welcomes New Economic Order” to “New Post.” Thanks for sharing!

  384. Just from what I read today I really believe what the Obama administration needs a Mental Health Czar, get rid of all the rest of the Czars. Obama and at least 99 per cent of his administration are certifiable lunatics, starting with the diversity chief Jennings-NAMBLA of all the disgusting groups in the world preying on minor children, an insane bunch of criminals. For a White House to promote criminal behavior is insane, but Obama is a criminal himself-Usurper Czar.

  385. Jacqlyn Smith

    sandy // October 6, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Oh…and here is the EXACT picture of the underground rice facility in Tokoyo used to train young farming students

    *******************************************

    I’m with you Sandy….more BS and propaganda….I’m not buying any of it either!

  386. “Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose”

    Janis Joplin

  387. Jacqlyn Smith

    #

    Michelle // October 6, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    As nutty as Obama is did it ever occur to anyone that Alan Keyes is everything Obama is not. It is almost like Obama stole Mr. Keyes identity.
    Keyes earned his PhD in government affairs from Harvard University in 1979, having written a dissertation on Alexander Hamilton and constitutional theory, under Harvey C. Mansfield.[8] Due to student deferments and a high draft number, Keyes was not drafted to serve in Vietnam. Keyes and his family were staunch supporters of the war in Vietnam, where his father served two tours of duty.[9] Keyes was criticized by opponents of the war in Vietnam, but he says he was supporting his father and his brothers, who were also fighting in the war.[10]]
    Keyes is a Natural Born Citizen, and American of African descent both sides.
    Essentially everything Obama is not. Keyes material is all documented, nothing at all from Obama. Keyes is an honest man with integrity who worked hard all his life. Obama seems to advanced via corruption or corrupt “friends” everything Obama gets near has a stain of corruption.
    *******************************************

    I am a big Keyes supporter….the wrong black man got in office…..the FRAUD must be exposed!!!

  388. I will never accept the Obama as president. The man is clearly hiding something very serious about his citizenship and birth. And I will never forget him folding his hands in a downward position during the national anthem.

  389. Bertha is combining digging a bigger whole for herself, while finally recognizing that she has a problem. Bertha this scandal is going to be huge. You have no idea.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/06/ceo-bertha-lewis-defends-acorn-national-press-club/
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    AG: ACORN Embezzlement Totaled $5M, Not $1M 28132404
    ACORN’s embattled CEO emphatically disputed on Tuesday a report by the organization’s board of directors that $5 million was embezzled from the group, calling it “completely false.” Bertha Lewis said the $5 million figure came from two former “disgruntled” directors who had since been voted off the organization’s board.
    Lewis spoke after the internal review by ACORN’s board was revealed to have found that $5 million was embezzled by the brother of the group’s founder, a figure far more than the previously reported amount of $1 million, according to documents released Monday.
    In her speech to the National Press Club in Washington, Lewis defended the 38-year-old group’s management and mission and vowed that ACORN has taken every step to prevent further problems.
    “I was cleaning out, and am cleaning out, all the vestiges of the old administration,” Lewis said.
    She began her remarks by referring to a series of videos that showed ACORN employees in several cities offering advice to a fake pimp and prostitute, joking that many now knew her organization as the “international brothel network.”
    “We know that we have work to do. Some of the actions that you all caught on the video, it made my stomach turn over. It just made you sick,” Lewis said, admitting that the videotape scandal hit her “like a ton of bricks.”
    “Those actions are indefensible, and we have to change them. So, in a way we’ve aided and abetted our attackers. But we take the need for self-evaluation very seriously,” she said.
    Lewis outlined ACORN’s long history of “fighting for people who don’t have a voice.”
    “I believe in what I call ‘bureaucrats for social justice,'” she said. “It doesn’t seem glamorous like other community organizing, but when you organize poor people, they deserve just as much professionalism, the best employees, the best staff, as any other group.
    “I wiped out and changed the whole management structure. I brought in professionals from legal to auditing.”
    She touted the group’s work on low-income housing, funding for education, and fighting for better wages.
    “Every day, we were helping working families not only to stay in their homes … but also lifting, don’t move, improve. Fight for your neighborhoods….
    “We have built solidly rooted and powerful community organizations,” Lewis said.
    “If these accomplishments make me the biggest threat to democracy in America, maybe I need to check the definition of democracy.”
    Lewis vowed that ACORN has learned from its recent difficulties and has taken steps to address them.
    “What did we do? We immediately went out, we immediately hired outside professionals. We needed to make sure that we were addressing the root of this problem and that it would never happen again.”
    The revelation that $5 million had been embezzled from ACORN was reported in a subpoena from the investigation by Louisiana Attorney General Buddy Caldwell, The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported. It is unclear if the money was taken from state, federal or private funds, according to the subpoena.
    Caldwell issued subpoenas in August seeking documents related to ACORN’s then-President Wade Rathke and his brother, Dale Rathke, who kept the group’s books. Those subpoenas targeted possible violations of state employee tax law, obstruction of justice and violations of the Employee Retirement Security Act.
    The attorney general made inquiries in June into alleged embezzlement within ACORN that happened 10 years ago. The group last year dealt with an internal dispute and a lawsuit involving accusations that Dale Rathke made nearly $1 million in improper credit card charges in 1999 and 2000. Rathke’s brother and a donor repaid the money.
    But Caldwell said last month that the statute of limitations prevented prosecutors from taking action on the alleged embezzlement, and that his investigation was not focused on that issue.
    The subpoena issued Monday puts a new emphasis on the embezzlement issue. It appears to be in reaction to documents gathered from ACORN’s board as a result of the subpoenas issued in August.
    “Current high ranking members of ACORN have publicly acknowledged that embezzlement did in fact occur, but the exact amount of the embezzlement was unknown until it was recently acknowledged in a board of directors meeting on Oct. 17, 2008, by Bertha Lewis and Liz Wolf that an internal review had determined that the amount embezzled was $5 million,” the new subpoena says.
    The subpoena requests documents from Citizens Consulting Inc., which assisted ACORN, and from various accounting and legal consultants in New Orleans.
    Wade Rathke could not be reached immediately for comment.
    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

  390. Val—I agree, but it’s not that simple
    I fear. And, it could just be a set up.
    I don’t trust anyone in DC now.

  391. Jacqlyn Smith-Keyes is so professional and knowledgeable. He must be a very humble person, by that I mean he did everything correctly. Went to school, was a high achiever, well educated PhD. honest hardworking, along comes Obama not one proof supplied by him of anything. They keep trying to pass him off as intelligent, until you hear him speak you are astounded by his ignorance . He is not educated at all, and he’s not smart. Same pap, repeated constantly. Can’t even think on his feet. I do not believe one word of his fictionalized background not one.

  392. if indeed carter said if he accepted motion to dismiss and he would offer tips on how to get standing, then he has tipped his hand, and refused to accept the standing offered in the Land case.

    They are trying to spin this any which way out of their court

  393. Obam is threatening the judge quite obviously. This fraud is enough to start a real revolution in this country. Our leaders no longer listen to the people, there employers. We The People need to make a stand and demand justice. They have all commited treason and need to be removed. God Bless the true American Patriots. Gene

  394. Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired)

    Gene, Gene, Gene,,, using the much-used old colloquialism, “Take The Needle From Your Arm.” You say that “We The People” need to make a stand?? ROTFLMAO. Have you looked around you lately? Trying to engage the average Amerikan in a dialog of CIVIC RESPOSIBILITY is akin to trying to engage a four-year-old toddler in a discussion of Pythagorean’s Theorem or Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.
    How long have we had Senators and Representatives committing TREASON? What has been done about it???? I rest my case.
    Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired)
    bobworn@aol.com

  395. I think it’s far more likely that Carter has been influenced by his own colleagues in the law than any high, high up pressure. One’s own colleagues can put a much stronger pressure on someone wishing to appear adequate to his profession. And we know, from the previous various courts just what his contemporary colleagues could come up with in discussion with him. Could be a case of “shunning”!

  396. how come on one has filed a declaratary judgement case against Obama to determine his citizenship status??

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaratory_judgment

  397. The issue at hand in this case is very simple: Is Obama a natural born citizen?

    If he was born in Kenya, the answer is no.

    His father was not an American citizen; however, his mother was. But, even though she had lived in the U.S. for ten years, the law at that time stipulated tat, in order for her to confer natural-born status on her son (BO), she would have had to have lived in the U.S. for FIVE YEARS AFTER ATTAINING THE AGE OF 14. This she did not do, since she was 18 when he was born.

    The DOJ argued that this was merely a political issue. I beg to differ: IT’S A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE.

    And as far as who has standing to bring such a lawsuit: how on earth can any American citizen be denied the right to bring such a lawsuit when it addresses the issue of possibly a non-citizen occupying the White House?

    His actions at best must be called unpatriotic. And, at worst, treasonous.

  398. “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

    I copied this from the Constitution. I have heard on this page that both of his parents had to be citizens and he can’t have a dual citizenship. Where was this info found? Should I look in the Amendments? Also, I heard that the Kenyan documents are fake. Is that just misinformation?
    Actually, I think the smartest move would be to go after Pelosi for vouching for his eligibility to run. She had to have lied since it’s obvious that BO won’t show his papers to anyone. Wouldn’t that still get him out of office?
    But besides all that…if he had nothing to hide then why won’t he show his papers? That in itself should be throwing up red flags to any judge!

  399. to ccbn213
    Yes, look to the “Amendments”(14th)
    the Supreme Court(Kim Wong Ark, Minor v Happersett)
    and the contemporaneous Law of Nations(Vattel)
    and don’t leave out the old Founders & Framers themselves
    check out what these folks had to say about ‘dual citizenship’ and foreign influence in the executive office holder

  400. to “Mike” above:
    In answer to the question of whether BO Jr is a natural born citizen if ‘born in Kenya’
    If born anywhere outside the U.S. , BO Jr. due to his Mother’s circumstances is not even a citizen much less a natural born citizen.
    Since he was born with British citizenship inherited from his British/Kenyan father his actual birth place is not relevant in determining his natural born cit. status

  401. Tom: Do you have any links to some of these documents?

  402. westsidedavid

    TO: Tom

    You wrote: “Since he was born with British citizenship inherited from his British/Kenyan father his actual birth place is not relevant in determining his natural born cit[izenship] status.”

    Tom, I would like you to read something. I would like you to read the opening sentence of section 1 of the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States

    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

    IF Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, then he was in the United States, and by this part of the Constitution, he is a United States citizen.

    What about his British/Kenyan citizenship? He was, at birth, a dual citizen. That does not lessen his status as an American citizen.

  403. westsidedavid

    TO: ccbn213

    Wow.
    Are you maybe putting a horse ahead of the cart? I thought the courts were supposed to decide the issues in this case.

    You seem convinced beyond any possibility of discussion that Barack Obama cannot possibly prove that he was born in the United States.

    Well, that is not quite true. You see Hawaii long ago adopted a statute establishing what is prove of birth in Hawaii. Under Hawaii law, a COLB is legally proof.

    So I have a very troubling question: if the law of Hawaii says that the COLB is proof, why does Orly Taitz get to announce that this is not enough?

    She announced that the COLB is not enough.

    But the courts have already ruled on that issue. They ruled on that issue against Philip Berg in his case in Pennsylvania. The federal court in Pennsylvania ruled that there was no adequate evidence to show that the COLB was forged, or that it was not proper proof of what the COLB purports to show.

    Berg appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals. It affirmed the ruling of the trial court. Berg asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. It refused, ruling in effect that there was nothing out of the order in rulings of the lower federal courts.

    So the state of Hawaii has ruled that the COLB is proof of Obama’s citizenship. The courts have upheld that ruling.

    How does Nancy Pelosi had known that she was lying when she vouched for Obama’s natural born American citizenship? It seems to me that she had some reasonable basis for her view, even if you question it.

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