Kamala Harris eligible? Jonathan Turley says yes quotes flawed CRS report, Natural Born Citizen requirement, Citizen not enough, SCOTUS ruling required

Kamala Harris eligible? Jonathan Turley says yes quotes flawed CRS report, Natural Born Citizen requirement, Citizen not enough, SCOTUS ruling required

“To his kind of judge, Cruz ironically wouldn’t be eligible, because the legal principles that prevailed in the 1780s and ’90s required that someone actually be born on US soil to be a “natural born” citizen. Even having two US parents wouldn’t suffice. And having just an American mother, as Cruz did, would have been insufficient at a time that made patrilineal descent decisive.”…Laurence H. Tribe, Harvard Law Professor

“When asked where I believe Obama was born I answer, I don’t know. There is zero proof he was born in Hawaii. The only evidence of his birth location that we have is much circumstantial evidence and that points to Kenya.”…Citizen Wells

“The judicial power of the United States is extended to all cases arising under the constitution. Could it be the intention of those who gave this power, to say that, in using it, the constitution should not be looked into? That a case arising under the constitution should be decided without examining the instrument under which it arises? This is too extravagant to be maintained.”
“Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?”…Marbury V Madison

 

Law professor Jonathan Turley posted an article on August 14, 2020 which stated:

“Yes, Kamala Harris Is Eligible For Vice President”

I posted a comment twice which has not yet appeared.

Perhaps it has not yet been approved.

I was able to reply to other comments.

My comment:

“The NBC controversy is not a black & white issue.
Pun intended.
It is most definitely not a racial issue for most Americans.
It should have been settled for good in 2008 by the SCOTUS per Marbury v Madison.
You quoted the CRS report from 2011.
However, that report was clearly flawed & biased.
Consider the following:

https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/12/01/debunking-the-new-natural-born-citizen-congressional-research-propaganda/

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/11/members-of-congress-memo-what-to-tell.html

https://citizenwells.com/2010/11/07/congressional-research-memo-jack-maskell-april-2009-constitutional-qualifications-for-presidency-congressional-offices/

https://citizenwells.com/2016/11/29/paige-v-state-of-vermont-et-al-docket-2016-202-november-302016-1030-am-plaintiff-h-brooke-paige-natural-born-citizen-status-of-ted-cruz-and-marco-rubio-challenged-issue-not-moot-since/

Wells”

From Mr. Turley’s article:

“The media is alight today after the publication of a piece in Newsweek by Chapman University Professor John C. Eastman that raised the question of whether Sen. Kamala Harris is a citizen and eligible to be Vice President.  She is.  The courts have long recognized that individuals born in the United States are citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. In fairness to Professor Eastman and Newsweek, this has been a debate that has been raised during prior elections over candidates ranging from Chester Arthur to Barack Obama to John McCain.

Birthright citizenship has been a subject of debate from the time that the 14th Amendment was adopted.  There are arguments on both sides of the currently accepted broad interpretation of the language.  Many of our closest allies reject the concept of birthright citizenship.”

“Even a Congressional Research Service report from 2011 acknowledged such countervailing theories before concluding,, correctly, that

“The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term ‘natural born’ citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship ‘by birth’ or ‘at birth,’ either by being born ‘in’ the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship ‘at birth.’”

Read more:

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/08/14/yes-kamala-harris-is-eligible-for-vice-president/

In the first paragraph he states:

“question of whether Sen. Kamala Harris is a citizen and eligible to be Vice President.”

Natural Born Citizen is the constitutional requirement not citizen!

In the last paragraph he quotes the flawed Congressional Research Service report from 2011 .

The following Attorney Leo Donofrio article exposes the NBC propaganda of Jack Maskell in that report:

https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/12/01/debunking-the-new-natural-born-citizen-congressional-research-propaganda/

Another well informed commenter, George, repudiates Jonathan Turley’s position:

“Kamala Harris will NEVER be eligible to be U.S. president or vice president.

Kamala Harris’ parents were foreign citizens at the time of her birth.

– A mere “citizen” could only have been President at the time of the adoption of the Constitution – not after.

– The U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, requires the President to be a “natural born citizen,” which, by definition in the Law of Nations, requires “parents who are citizens” at the time of birth of the candidate and that he be “…born of a father who is a citizen;…”

– Ben Franklin thanked Charles Dumas for copies of the Law of Nations which “…has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress, now sitting,…””

Read more:

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/08/14/yes-kamala-harris-is-eligible-for-vice-president/comment-page-2/#comment-1990909

I was able to post the following Citizen Wells article under another comment:

https://citizenwells.com/2016/11/11/chuck-todd-is-not-stupid-todd-is-along-with-media-and-democrat-party-biased-and-colluding-zero-proof-of-obama-us-birth-chuck-todd-and-nbc-staff-attack-trump-for-insulting-president-birth-certi/

 

 

More here:

https://citizenwells.com/

http://citizenwells.net/

 

19 responses to “Kamala Harris eligible? Jonathan Turley says yes quotes flawed CRS report, Natural Born Citizen requirement, Citizen not enough, SCOTUS ruling required

  1. “Between these alternatives there is no middle ground. The constitution is either a superior, paramount law, unchangeable by ordinary means, or it is on a level with ordinary legislative acts, and like other acts, is alterable when the legislature shall please to alter it.”
    “It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases, must of necessity expound and interpret that rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the courts must decide on the operation of each.

    So if a law be in opposition to the constitution; if both the law and the constitution apply to a particular case, so that the court must either decide that case conformably to the law, disregarding the constitution; or conformably to the constitution, disregarding the law; the court must determine which of these conflicting rules governs the case. This is of the very essence of judicial duty.

    If then the courts are to regard the constitution; and the constitution is superior to any ordinary act of the legislature; the constitution, and not such ordinary act, must govern the case to which they both apply.”
    “The judicial power of the United States is extended to all cases arising under the constitution. Could it be the intention of those who gave this power, to say that, in using it, the constitution should not be looked into? That a case arising under the constitution should be decided without examining the instrument under which it arises? This is too extravagant to be maintained.”
    “Why does a judge swear to discharge his duties agreeably to the constitution of the United States, if that constitution forms no rule for his government? if it is closed upon him, and cannot be inspected by him?”…Marbury V Madison

  2. CW……
    ………would you think that Turley might have been CONVENIENTLY IGNORANT? These days UP is DOWN, LEFT is RIGHT, and PINK is GREEN. T expect this moronic thinking to go on as long as our public school systems are dominated by LIBERALS. Further there are still a whole lot of judges who have chosen to MAKE THEIR OWN LAWS rather than enforce the Constitution as written. This BS will probably end when people begin to once again see past the end of their noses.

  3. I punched T rather than I……..sorry about that.!!!!

  4. CW…….
    ………..probably the best answer when you are asked about Lil Barry Soetoro is “I DON’T KNOW”. Probably avoids a lot of verbal speculation. There is however his own admission in his speech at Kogele, Kenya. Yes this is still circumstantial, but I would think that any honest judge who heard the words, and watched the speech would probably rule that he is NOT A CITIZEN of the US. To compound this he was given a Fulbright Scholarship (for foreign students only)……but again only circumstantial. How far should we take circumstantial reasoning before it becomes the TRUTH? In addition there has NEVER been a legally valid name change adjudicated in the US OR CANADA. Canadian laws are EXACTLY llike our own with respect to name changes. A CERTIFIED COPY OF A LEGALLY VALID BC MUST accompany the Name change petition when filing it. He had no legally valid US BC. He does have a legally valid BC from Kenya……which Lucas Smith obtained. Further why has Britain DISALLOWED any research of their records of Kenya? Easy to see…….a FRIEND of a FRIEND of a VIP has asked them to. I believe that if this request was put to the Court of Britain it would become a cat of a different color. Perhaps they would even honor FOIA.

  5. CW
    Q……..
    Is a vacation baby born in the US say from Chinese parents qualified to be President?
    Well, if Kamala Harris is qualified so would be an anchor baby from China, Russia and North Korea
    etc, etc, would be qualified, Got to be 35. Well I’m sure there are plenty of vacation babies were born in the US in the 1980’s. Maybe some even graduated from a four year collage. Need to clean this mess up.
    OS….Op’s I forgot Kenya sorry.

  6. AND NOW……..
    ………….the CRAZED Maxine Waters is at her psychotic BS again……..now she thinks she alone can REMOVE Trump from office. She belongs in a PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL. She is a RAVING MANIAC.

  7. HOW……
    ………the hell did Waters ever get elected to begin with? Those who voted for her must be cut from the same cloth. PSYCHOTIC !!!!!

  8. hapnHal……..
    ………..no need for apologies…….I personally try to keep my beliefs alive based upon reality of facts. As I watched “Michael” speaking on behalf of Joe Malarkey I felt nauseous. Then I remind myself that that POS is a classic example of the sort of people who comprise the alleged DEMOCRATIC PARTY……..A GIANT LOAD OF DERANGED MORONS!!!!!

  9. hapnHal……..
    ………..I really cracked up on the postage stamp thing. The idea of a Trump postage stamp would probably drive Maxine Waters, and all the rest of the DEMOCRATIC nut cases totally over the edge. The booby hatches would be filled with babbling maniacs.

  10. AND YES……..
    …………the notion of hearing the anguished screams of the DEMOCRATS as each craps themselves causes me to salivate. I look forward to such an occurrence with glee.

  11. The issue for people like Turley, is that they are hung up on British Common Law and it’s consequences to the United States Criminal Justice system. Since most Americans are ignorant of their history and heritage, this is what you get.

    Specifically, the US Supreme court needs to interpret the term “Natural Born Citizen”. The framers intent, that one could never be “King of England” and President of the United States, put the term into the requirements for POTUS, and the 12th Amendment added the requirement for VPOTUS. The did this to prevent ‘entanglements’. Please see letters from John Jay to George Washington, to understand that the Commander in Chief of the Military couldn’t have dual loyalties.

    The poorly educated, or those that simply want a work around to the Constitution use English Common law reference for British Subjects to subvert the Constitution and the Republic. Yet these opinions have no explanation for why the War of 1812 was fought (over press ganging of US sailors who were born as British Subjects), and understanding that We the People ABSOLUTELY did not accept British Common law as it pertains to our citizens. However, the Founding Father’s clearly understood that they were born British Subjects, so that had to put an exemption into the Constitution, so that those born before 1790 didn’t have to be “Natural Born”.

    So…..Where did the term Natural Born Citizen come from? Clearly it wasn’t British because 1) We didn’t accept British Common law on our citiizens. 2) British are born as Subjects, NOT CITIZENS, in that time and place. Therefore, we must look elsewhere to find what the founding fathers were reading to understand their intent. Herein lies the history of who were were allied with in 1790, and it wasn’t the British. Yes, we were most definitively allied with the French. Indeed, the answer lies here.

    https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/vattel-the-law-of-nations-lf-ed

    The answer is France, and a unique piece of critical thinking at the time. Vattel’s work on laws of nations.

    However, claiming that it was Vattel that they turned to, without evidence, is making a story whole cloth. On the other hand, if there were proof that those individuals who conspired to create the Republic were aware of Vattel, read Vattel, then it becomes obvious that the Term “Natural Born Citizen” is derived from that work.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-library-washington/george-washingtons-library-book-returned-221-yrs-late-idUSTRE64J4EG20100520

    “The missing book came to light when the New York Society Library was restoring its 1789-1792 charging ledger, which features the borrowing history of Washington, John Adams, John Jay, Aaron Burr, Alexander Hamilton, George Clinton, and others.”

    Lawyers lie, and History leaves NO DOUBT that they were reading and exchanging about Vattel’s Law of Nations. Natural Born Citizen, under Vattel, is and individual without divided loyalties at birth. That person, born of two citizen parents, on citizen soil, could claim no other country and could not be claimed by another. There was no conflict.

    This story can only be understood under the geopolitical events of the time of the writing of the Constitution. We know the geopolitical events, we have the evidence of whose ideas they talked about and read, and we know why. Today’s Democrats and those Ignorant of the Constitution would destroy it and distort our history to bring their ‘new’ government. That political history is not in doubt now that we know the last POTUS used government itself to subvert the Republic as he spied on his political opponents.

    In the words of our founding fathers “I hold these truths to be self evident”. The SCOTUS needs to make a decision, to take up the burden and decide upon the fate of the Republic by ‘determining’ what the term Natural Born Citizen meant.

    Done Ranting now

    Pete

  12. Thanks Pete.
    Excellent!!

  13. Pete…….
    ……….I too have read about Vattel, and believe it to be the true origin of NBC. I agree 100% with what you posted………excellent work sir.

  14. AND NOW…….
    …….Joe Malarkey has become the new FIGUREHEAD for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I use the word “figurehead” because that is what he truly will be. Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Harris will be the stand by MUMMY.

  15. AND…….
    ………a FIGUREHEAD is a silent CARVED piece which was once mounted on the PROW of many sailing ships. It is a mechanically rigid piece which when it is a carving of a human, it also has a HEAD MADE OF WOOD.= NO BRAINS !!!!! Joe Malarkey for SURE.

  16. AND…….
    ………last night we saw the face of the sex maniac himself. Real POS.!!!!

  17. AND NOW……
    ……….it looks as though the SWAMP is all in for Joe Malarkey. As I recall the swamp is where TAINTED WATER, ROTTING VEGETATION, AND DEAD TREES ARE FOUND. YES there are living things also. Most living things are PRIMITIVE BEASTS that attack, KILL and EAT even their OWN KIND. YES there are also SLITHERING SNAKES, and EVEN HUGE TARANTULA SPIDERS. There are waterfowl who FLY TO ANOTHER LOCATION when someone, or something DISTURBS THEM. They all have their own language. To me all of these traits come very close to those we see from the SWAMP MEMBERS. NEED I SAY MORE?

  18. AND,
    ……obviously Joe Malarkey sympathizes with the BLM, and the stinking bodies of their nose picking, low IQ street punks in their destruction of Portland Oregon, Seattle, Chicago, and New York. He has NOT SAID A WORD OF CONDEMNATION of the BLM. SILENCE says it ALL !!!!!

  19. AND REST ASSURRED…….
    ……….the child prodigy (Mr. Swallow-well) will without a doubt “SWALLOW” his way into a cabinet position should the FIGUREHEAD be inadvertently elected. I have read that he is a member of the LGBTQ.

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