NC Blue Cross Blue Shield rates skyrocket for reinstated Obamacare cancelled health care plans, North Carolina Department of Insurance approved rate increase, Double price inflation of year ago

NC Blue Cross Blue Shield rates skyrocket for reinstated Obamacare cancelled health care plans, North Carolina Department of Insurance approved rate increase, Double  price inflation of year ago

“If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”…Barack Obama

“millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.”…NBC News October 29, 2013

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”George Orwell, “1984″

 

 

From the Raleigh News Observer November 26, 2013.

“Blue Cross rates for reinstated health plans in NC approved”

 

“The state Department of Insurance has approved the rate hikes proposed by Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina for 2013 individual health insurance plans that are being extended next year.

The health plans had been slated for elimination under the Affordable Care Act, the nation’s health care law, but Blue Cross officials said earlier this month the company would offer the plans next year. President Barack Obama urged insurers to extend the individual plans for one year amid a public outcry over forced cancellations and steep price increases for replacement plans.

After an expedited review, the N.C. Department of Insurance approved an average increase for Blue Advantage plans of 16.4 percent; for Blue Value, 22 percent; and for Blue Options HSA, 23.6 percent.

The increase is double the price inflation for the same health plans just a year ago. But many Blue Cross customers have welcomed the return of the plans.

The extension applies only to Blue Cross customers on individual plans who were enrolled on or before Oct. 1. Those who signed up after will lose their plans at the end of this year. Legislation before Congress would allow all Americans to buy the 2013 plans, not just those who enrolled by the Oct. 1 deadline.

Blue Cross had mailed out more than 151,000 plan cancellations, affecting more than 230,000 customers on those individual policies. The letters listed 2014 premiums under new individual plans that comply with the Affordable Care Act. Some customers saw rate decreases, but many were shaken by increases that doubled and tripled their costs.”

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/26/3409552/blue-cross-rates-for-reinstated.html

 

 

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69 responses to “NC Blue Cross Blue Shield rates skyrocket for reinstated Obamacare cancelled health care plans, North Carolina Department of Insurance approved rate increase, Double price inflation of year ago

  1. Happy Thanksgiving.

  2. “The Obama administration will announce a one-year delay of the online health exchange through which small businesses are to shop for health-insurance coverage, reports indicated Wednesday”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-small-business-exchange-delayed-reports-2013-11-27?dist=afterbell

  3. “Former hostages react to Iran’s nuclear deal”

    “”It’s kind of like Jimmy Carter all over again,” said Clair Cortland Barnes, now retired and living in Leland, N.C., after a career at the CIA and elsewhere. He sees the negotiations now as no more effective than they were for the Carter administration, when he and others languished.

    Retired Air Force Col. Thomas E. Schaefer, 83, called the deal “foolishness.”

    “My personal view is, I never found an Iranian leader I can trust,” he said. “I don’t think today it’s any different from when I was there. None of them, I think, can be trusted. Why make an agreement with people you can’t trust?””

    http://m.news-record.com/news/north_carolina_ap/article_716a7c3f-f69c-5a22-88c7-2a207b9efd87.html?mode=jqm

  4. Happy Thanksgiving, CW, et al., and a happy Thanksgivukkah, Dean M. 🙂

  5. November 27, 2013

    sundance:

    “Knock Out/Polar Bear Hunting Spreads – Two Attacks In South-West Florida: 72 Year Old While Gardening, 89 Year Old On Front Doorstep…”

    “On Tuesday around 3:50 p.m., deputies responded to a report of a group of people who randomly attacked an unsuspecting victim in the area of South Pointe Boulevard. “I was in shock. Who would expect anything from out of the blue to happen like that. There’s no reason had I done something or said something,” said the 72-year-old Fort Myers victim.

    The victim stated that while he was weeding his garden, someone kicked him from behind, knocking him to the ground. The victim says he saw a teenage girl laughing at him before she walked back to join a larger group of teens.

    “I didn’t hear anything. There was nobody in the area at all. It was very quiet [when] all of a sudden I felt a blow to my hip and I was on the ground. I turned around to see what happened and there was a girl standing there laughing,” he said.

    Harry Hurvitz, 89, told deputies that someone rang his doorbell, and he looked and saw several well-dressed teens standing outside his door and one of them appeared to be holding a cell phone or camera.

    When he opened the door, one of the juveniles suddenly and without provocation slapped him in the face. “I stepped out to see what she was pointing to and there was another girl standing here and wammmmmm,” explained Hurvitz.

    The entire group then fled, laughing as they ran toward Principia Drive. …”

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/27/knock-outpolar-bear-hunting-spreads-two-attacks-in-south-west-florida-72-year-old-while-gardening-89-year-old-on-front-doorstep/

  6. CW,

    You have my 2013 employer Blue Cross package I sent. As of 2014, we are covered. However, there is discussion that we most likely will not meet the government standards for 2015, which we sign up for in Oct. of 2014.

  7. Happy Thanksgiving!

  8. Ditto, Tina!

  9. SueK,

    Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

    I’m sure you followed the news whereby a young teen died after receiving a Flu vaccine. I could only think of you while hearing that news. Too bad the mother doesn’t understand the risks associated with it as you so well explain to all of us, which of course we are certainly thankful for.

    About 15 years ago, (35 years old at that time), I volunteered for my first Flu vaccine at my employment place. 3 days later, I was in the hospital for 2 days and a fever of 105.1. I was a noodle. The doctors told me I was a “rare” case after such vaccination, about 1 in 100,000. That really didn’t mean anything to me and needless to say, I have never taken another Flu vaccine since then.

  10. Happy Thanksgiving SueQ! and Tina, and all my other extended CW family members….

  11. Thanks William! Whose cookin in your house today? I’m assuming your sweetie is. I’m going to my daughter’s house. First time in 41 years I will not have roasted a turkey. Thank God my relatives are all conservatives, and I won’t be bombarded with Obama’s talking points by his stooges during dinner conversation. THAT is something to be thankful for!

  12. SueQ,

    LOL…

    Yea, I should attempt the “talking” points and make a video of it to go viral, and so should many others, mocking it.

    My Wife does all of the fixings, I do the turkey. The house smells wonderful, especially the pinto bean and hamhocks in the crock pot she put on last night. It’s a 21 pounder and I started it a 5:30am. I’m off shortly to go pick out a bottle of wine for this afternoon. The older kids are coming over around 2pm.

  13. EVERYBODY…………..Have a really great Thanksgiving today! Then you have about 2-5 days of left overs meals. Har har. Christmas Turkey always PRETTIER! Lots of everything!

  14. Oldsailor,

    Was thinking about you my friend. Have a good Thanksgiving.

  15. November 28, 2013

    “IBD Goes There: Obama Life Story Fabricated; Terrorist Wrote Obama Book?”

    “An article topic previously published by BirtherReport and GatewayPundit has now been picked up by Investors Business Daily along with Rush Limbaugh. IBD asks if voters are victims of an elaborate con. Well, Duh!”
    ———-
    “Investors Business Daily”:

    “Terrorist Ayers Confesses Sharing Obama’s ‘Dreams'”

    “Excerpt: If someone else wrote the book the president has repeatedly claimed he did — a book that proved significant in his election and earned him millions in late royalties — it not only exposes him as a fraud, but further indicts the national media for failing to properly vet him.

    In fact, the media elite used the book to help promote him for the presidency. Time magazine, for one, gushed that “Dreams From My Father” “may be the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician.””
    ———-
    “@ IBD: Don’t forget about his fabricated birth certificates and selective service card…”

    [more at link]

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/11/ibd-goes-there-terrorist-wrote-obama-book.html#more

  16. Air Force Brat

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Not “holiday”. Not “Festivus”. Not “fall harvest”. THANKSGIVING.

  17. Jack Cashill:

    Part 1:

    “© Jack Cashill”

    “WorldNetDaily.com
    September 18, 2008”

    “Did Bill Ayers Write Obama’s “Dreams”?”

    “Prior to 1990, when Barack Obama contracted to write Dreams From My Father, he had written very close to nothing.

    As an undergraduate, Obama had written what he justifiably calls some “very bad poetry.” He published nothing under his own name in The Harvard Law Review, where he served as an editor and as president. And after leaving Harvard, he published nothing in its review or in any law journal.

    Then, in 1995, this untested 33 year-old produced what Time Magazine has called–with a straight face– “the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician.”

    The public is asked to believe Obama wrote this on his own. I do not buy this canard for a minute, not at all. …”

    http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/did_bill_ayers_write_1.htm

    Part 2:

    “WorldNetDaily.com
    September 19, 2008”

    “Deconstructing the Text”

    http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/did_bill_ayers_write_2.htm

    Part 3:

    “WorldNetDaily.com
    September 20, 2008”

    “Why it Matters”

    http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/did_bill_ayers_write_3.htm
    ===============
    “Jack Cashill and Deconstructing Obama”

    At YouTube:

    “The Baer/Haggerty Offensive of Repatriot Radio interviews Jack Cashill, the man who first realized that Barack Obama is incapable of writing beyond a high-school level and that the author of “dreams From My Father” is almost certainly William Ayers.”

    Published on April 21, 2012

  18. Gordo,

    And after 350 years of Harvard, Obama is the First president of the Harvard school never to have presented a review of anything. Another First…

  19. Hi All and Happy Thanksgiving.

    Now this is interesting:

    The forgotten Founder who founded Thanksgiving

    By J.D. Mullane Bucks County Courier Times

    Abraham Lincoln is credited with establishing Thanksgiving in 1863, but the 16th president only set the last Thursday of November for the annual observance. The first official recognition of Thanksgiving came from George Washington in 1789. He implored Americans to give thanks to God for “the happy conclusion to the country’s war of independence.” But this wasn’t Washington’s idea. The man behind our national day of thanks is Elias Boudinot, a forgotten Founding Father who lived in Burlington City.

    Boudinot is largely overlooked in history textbooks. Teaching about him would be dicey in secular public schools, since his deep Christianity came before everything else in his life. Despite the many impressive public offices he held, including delegate to the Continental Congress and director of the U.S. Mint, Boudinot said his greatest honor was serving as president of the American Bible Society.

    He began the tradition of Congress opening each session with a prayer. He saw America’s founding as world-shaking. He wrote “Age of Revelation” as a response to Thomas Paine’s “Age of Reason.”

    “Let us enter on this important business under the idea that we are Christians on whom the eyes of the world are now turned,” he wrote in 1775.

    Boudinot’s Christianity informed his booming arguments in Congress against the slave trade. He condemned the cruelty and swindling suffered by America’s native Indian tribes. He demanded that slaves and Indians have equal rights under the Constitution. He paid to have young Native Americans educated. One of them, Gallegian Watie, a Cherokee, boarded with Boudinot at his home in Burlington City. Watie was so deeply moved by Boudinot’s character that he changed his name to Elias Boudinot and used it as his byline when he launched and edited the Cherokee Phoenix newspaper, the first ever published in English and Cherokee.

    But Boudinot was no religious scold. Although a serious Presbyterian, he had an ecumenical view of Christianity.

    He wrote to his daughter, Charity, in 1778: “As you advance in life, you will find the Christian world unhappily split into a multitude of denominations, professions and names. Each will tell you that his is the only right way, as those mentioned in Scripture who tell you, lo! here is Christ, or there is Christ; but believe them not. The true catholicism of the Scriptures will tell you to take them all into the arms of your love, Charity, and to look upon all as the servants of the same master, as far as they follow his example.”

    Boudinot was born in Philadelphia in 1740. He was a lawyer by age 20 and spent a decade building his law practice in Elizabeth, Union County.

    He became a patriot, serving in the New Jersey Assembly and in Congress. He spent nearly $40,000 of his own money to assure that Americans captured by the Brits were properly fed and clothed. He was Washington’s go-to man on secret intelligence; Boudinot was the main contact for spies serving the American cause. He moved to Burlington City in 1803 and had a house built at 207 W. Broad St. He died there in 1821.

    On Sept. 25, 1789, Boudinot introduced a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives imploring both houses of Congress to prevail upon President Washington to recommend to all Americans a national day of thanksgiving. His request to Washington came one day after Congress had approved the First Amendment’s freedom of religion clause.

    Boudinot wrote: “(I) could not think of letting the session pass over without offering an opportunity to all the citizens of the United States of joining with one voice in returning to Almighty God their sincere thanks for the many blessings he had poured down upon them.”

    Washington approved it. He issued a proclamation from New York to all the country’s governors, setting aside Nov. 26, 1789, as a day of giving thanks: “To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease (increase) of science among them and us — and generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.”

  20. Looks like it’s time to officially remove the “care” part from Obamacare. I predict emergency room mob scenes. And once Zero criminalizes refusal to offer care for gov. wages and gov. diagnoses (and concierge private care) there won’t even be the reduced number of docs we’re talking about now:

    Doctor Shortage Looms as Obamacare Creates Medicaid Crisis

    Just as states get ready to expand their Medicaid programs under Obamacare, low-income patients may find themselves with a fewer doctors to choose from because it simply doesn’t pay enough for a physician to take government-subsidized patients.

    In California, Dr. Ted Mazer, one of the few ear, nose and throat specialists in the San Diego area who still treats Medicaid patients, says that he won’t be able to do so any longer because of the low reimbursement funds from the government, The New York Times reported.

    “It’s a bad situation that is likely to be made worse,” Mazer said.

    Medicaid already suffers from a shortage of doctors, especially when it comes to specialists. Only 57 percent of California doctors are willing to accept new Medicaid patients and another 10 percent are expected to drop Medicaid patients in the coming months.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/doctor-shortage-obamacare-medicaid/2013/11/28/id/539137#ixzz2lydetnGp

  21. “Knock Out/Polar Bear Hunting Spreads – Two Attacks In South-West Florida: 72 Year Old While Gardening, 89 Year Old On Front Doorstep…”

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/nc-blue-cross-blue-shield-rates-skyrocket-for-reinstated-obamacare-cancelled-health-care-plans-north-carolina-department-of-insurance-approved-rate-increase-double-price-inflation-of-year-ago/#comment-301590
    ==============
    November 27, 2013

    Colin Flaherty:

    “Knockout’ on senior citizen working in garden”

    “There they go again: The Knockout Games the New York Times says are not happening, just keep happening.

    And local media keeps getting it wrong. This time in Ft. Myers, Fla.

    The newspapers and TV news reported that Traveshia Banks was a part of a large group of “suspicious teenagers” who, at “random,” attacked a senior citizen this week while he was weeding his garden.

    Local news accounts did not report the “teenagers” were black. Or that more than 99 percent of the people who carry out these attacks are black. And most of the victims are not.

    “Newspapers just won’t talk about how the Knockout Game is an example of racial violence,” said Chuck White, a Jacksonville, Fla., talk show host. “The same media that has turned our country into the most race conscious place on earth, tries to pretend race is not an issue when it comes to black mob violence. And even though only one person was arrested, many were present. Many took pictures. So this was a mob attack. But the statistics will never show it. That is why this crime is under-reported and mis-reported across the country.””

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/knockout-on-senior-citizen-working-in-garden/
    ==============
    November 28, 2013

    Jesse Lee Peterson:

    “Obama, Oprah, media to blame for black mobs”

    “Did you ever imagine that, in America, groups of black thugs would attack unsuspecting whites? Did you ever think the first black president and Oprah Winfrey would encourage division and hatred between races?

    In today’s America, that’s the unfortunate reality.

    In what many tamely call the “knockout game,” black teenagers target whites to attack them without provocation. The aim is to knock the victim unconscious with one blow. Man, woman, young or old – it doesn’t matter – these thugs do not care.

    Despite the facts, mainstream media outlets refuse to truthfully report these black-on-white hate crimes. Some outright call it a “myth.” When the media downplay these crimes or omit the racial component, they put lives at risk. Imagine if whites victimized blacks today. There would be wall-to-wall coverage and President Obama and Oprah would both be on TV condemning it.

    What’s the solution?

    First, whites have to get over the fear of being called “racist.” Most whites are terrified of this word and recoil when a black person hurls it at them. Blacks understand the effect this word has, and they use it to shut down honest dialogue about race. This hurts race relations and divides the country like nothing else.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/obama-oprah-media-to-blame-for-black-mobs/

  22. Ok! Here is my opinion about being called a racist!

    I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU CALL ME AS LONG AS YOU CALL ME FOR SUPPER!

    Now scumbags keep moving your lying mouths because it shows YOU for the RACIST that you are. Hear me Oprah? I have a feeling that you are angry because you were not born white.

  23. Happy Thanksgiving !!!!! NASA is reporting Comet Ison did not survive its orbit around the Sun. http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/comet-ison-fizzles-as-it-rounds-the-sun

  24. James, thanks…had been following Ison and couldn’t see how it would survive. Guess now we can concentrate on those “mysterious” blood moons associated with the Jewish feasts and with the accompanying sun eclipses.

    It cannot be regarded as coincidence that all four blood moons of 2014/15 occur on religious festivals of Israel, together with two eclipses of the sun also on important days in 2015. A blood moon will occur on the 14th day of Nisan in 2014, when the Passover will be celebrated in Israel (cf. Lev. 23:5). Nisan is the first month in Israel’s religious calendar. On the 15th day of the seventh month (Tishri) when the feast of Tabernacles begins (cf. Lev. 23:34), there will be another blood moon. Exactly the same pattern will be repeated in 2015. Because of Israel’s lunar calendar these dates all coincide with the full moon – on these occasions the moon will become blood-red. Apart from the lunar eclipses there will also be two eclipses of the sun in 2015 – on the first day of Nisan and again on the first day of Tishri. The Rosh Hashanah (Jewish New Year) is celebrated on 1st Tishri, which is the beginning of their civil calendar.

    The discoveries of Mark Biltz are even more significant when it is taken into account that the year from 25 Sept. 2014 to 13 Sept. 2015 will be a sabbatical year which will conclude the year-week which started with Rosh Hashanah on 30 Sept. 2008. Four blood moons in successive years will never occur again during the entire remainder of the 21st century.

    http://www.bibleguidance.co.za/Engarticles/Bloodmoons.htm

    With Israel being completely isolated as of late things don’t bode too well there.

  25. I heard a televangelist (Hagy) on the radio this AM with Huckabee. He has put out a book titled 4 Blood Moons and its significance with biblical revelations pertaining to Israel. Might be a good read.

  26. I personally believe the Msssssss.Winfrey has her own BIASED view of the world in which she lives. Her mind is NOT open to other viewpoints. That makes her just another OBOT. In the final judgement neither her MONEY ,or STATUS will be taken into consideration by the JUDGE. She will be judged by who she is and what she has been throughout her life. Nobody,not even Msssssssss.Winfrey is exempt! It is probable that many of our younger generation will be witness to Winfrey’s passing.

  27. off topic but important!
    Many top generals,and admirals have been purged from their “POSITIONS” by Soetoro. There is a primary reason…….and it is for the overall purpose of bringing the strength of our military more in line with that of the REST of the world. This is a deliberately planned reduction in the strength we can field in the event of such a necessity. The alleged CINC is guilty of controverting our military against the Constitution. This act is one of TREASON.

  28. ……of course, who even gives a damn,just so long as everybody has his/her drugs,and porn movies……….nothing else is important…..that is until some foreign BASTARD is shooting at them …..then they scream “US GOVERNMENT ….DO SOMETHING”.

  29. Kiltie, I think Hagee got most of his info from Biltz, a messianic Jew, who seems to be the real expert.

  30. Saw news reports suggesting politicians want us to speak about issues over a Thanksgiving meal. The arrogance of these hoodlums. They have completely forgotten or never knew what it means to be a public servant. Why should we speak of the servants, especially ones as corrupt as these?
    Who sits down for a meal with loved ones to join in thanks for lives blessings, and speaks of their servants. It just isn’t done. I support removing every single one of them from office. They are not working on our behalf but are self dealing.
    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone else!

  31. The falacy of Soetoro’s reasoning is that in weakening our military he is openly INVITING more attacks like 9-11. However the next attack could be a suitcase type of 3 kiloton,or greater strategic nuclear devices. Such a device if properly placed could kill multiple thousands of people, and cause a similar number to die from radiation related illness.

  32. Cruel, heartless regime and its minions:

    Cancer Patient Who Spoke Out Against ObamaCare Now Being Audited

    Bill Elliot was a cancer patient who lost his insurance due to ObamaCare and couldn’t pay the expensive new premiums. He was talking about paying the ObamaCare fine, going without health insurance and “letting nature take its course.”

    He went on FOX News where his story was picked up by C. Steven Tucker, a health insurance broker who helped him keep his insurance.

    Now suddenly Bill Elliot is being audited for 2009 with an interview only scheduled in April 2014. Assuming he lives that long. That might be a coincidence, but Tucker is being audited back to 2003.

    That’s a rather strange coincidence.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/cancer-patient-who-spoke-out-against-obamacare-now-being-audited/

  33. While I personally think that at least a few of our LED BOTTOMED upper echelon commanders do need to be removed from the level of command which they hold, I also think that there is a DIRE need to maintain a position of military strength, which is the best deterrent to attackers. In applying such strength it is imperative that it be sanctioned and executed by knowledgeable field commanders. If no competent field commanders exist it is likley the US will LOSE one engagement after another. This is something that will give the Marxist Socialist BASTARDS extreme pleasure.

  34. I am covered by Anthem (Blue Cross), Advantage plan which I have held for several years,yet my annual rate doubled. from about $1200 per year to close to $2400.00 per year. In 2014 this might be seen as DIRT CHEAP.

  35. Stunning Info On President Obama: Sheriffs Congressional Fraud Kits Now Online Here !

    By Josey Wales

    AZ Sheriff Arpaio Cold Case Posse Investigation “Sheriff’s Kit“ has now been released on the internet. America is now being asked to be Judge and Jury by Sheriff Apraio. America’s legal/judicial system has failed Sheriff Apraio and Mike Zullo. They have tried to use the Judicial system to bring truth to the evidence they have discovered in their investigation into Obama’s birth certificate, but the corruption seems to be so deep that even these two seasoned Law Enforcement Officers are no match for the Obama deception.

    more: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/stunning-info-on-president-obama-sheriffs-congressional-fraud-kits-now-online-here-2833130.html

  36. Good morning CW et al,

    I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving day.

  37. Good morning William, et al.

  38. Oldsailor,

    For this Christmas, I would like to cook a Goose rather than a Turkey/Ham for my family. They have never had one before. When younger and beginning as a child, I was an avid hunter that hit nearly every hunt annually for Deer/Bear/Quail/Dove/Duck/Goose/Turkey/Pheasants, plus belonging for many years to the skeet club; and reloading all my own ammo.

    Those days are over and have been for quite some time. I simply got burned out. But I never denied my children growing up the same opportunities I was given and lived. Today, I only Bow hunt from time-to-time. Most of my children shot their first Deer before the age of 11, and my youngest one at the age of 8, with a .223. She’s a firecracker. 🙂

    I think for this Christmas it will be a Goose.

  39. Sees it coming:

    Pope Francis: Times of Persecution Mean the Lord Is Near

    Pontiff Warns of Worldly Temptation to Keep Religion Private

    Worldly powers that wish to make religion something private exists in this world. This was the warning Pope Francis gave this morning during Mass at Casa Santa Marta.

    The Holy Father reflected on the first reading where Daniel is thrown in the Lion’s den for praying to God, while the Gospel recalled Jesus’ description of the end of days.

    Speaking on the final battle described by Jesus, the Pope said that there is an underlying temptation that will be faced by all which he called “the universal temptation”: the desecration of the temple, the desecration of faith.

    “What does this mean? It will be like the triumph of the prince of this world: the defeat of God. It seems that in that final moment of calamity, he will take possession of this world, that he will be the master of this world,” he said.

    An example of this desecration of faith can be shown in the book of Daniel who is condemned to death for adoring God. This desecration has a specific name: “the prohibition of worship.”

    “[There] religion cannot be spoken of, it is something private, no? Publicly it is not spoken about. Te religious signs are taken down. The laws that come from the worldly powers must be obeyed. You can do so many beautiful things except adore God. Worship is prohibited,” the Pope said.

    “This is the center of this end. And when this arrives in its fullness – to the ‘kairos’ of this pagan attitude, when this is fulfilled – then yes, He will come: ‘And they will see the Son of man come on a cloud with great power and glory.’ Christians who have suffered in times of persecution, in times of the prohibition of worship are a prophecy of that which will happen to all.”

    Concluding his homily, Pope Francis called on the faithful to be loyal and patient. The times of persecution mean that that the victory of Jesus Christ is near.

    “This week it will do us well to think of this general apostasy, which is called the prohibition of adoration and ask ourselves: ‘Do I adore the Lord? Do I adore Jesus Christ, the Lord? Or is it half and half, do I play the play the prince of this world,” he said. “To adore till the end, with loyalty and faithfulness: this is the grace that we should ask for this week.” (J.A.E.)

    http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/pope-francis-times-of-persecution-mean-the-lord-is-near

  40. CW,

    I’ll take any critique for my gravatar you may offer. I changed it to reflect economies in that sense. But certainly will take any advice.

  41. Gordo,

    While I certainly respect all Pope’s past, I am struggling to agree with the current Pope Francis. This is most especially true with me pertaining to his past comments regarding a socialist view. Yesteryear, he would have made those such as Stalin, Mao and Hitler proud. Something the Church fought against for many Centuries.

  42. Here is one key reason Socialism/Communism is EVIL!

    It requires “theft” from one person to give to another against their will, typically by force of a government or authority in the name of humanity. This is not to be confused with “Charity”. Charity is a kind act of giving, a human nature derived from the sprit of God, through our own will within him.

    I doubt very serious when Moses spoke of the 10 commandments, most especially the 8th – Thou Shalt not Steal – he meant is was “ok’ so long as most people (51% as a majority) and a government or authority legalized it.

  43. William, perhaps you could add some blood dripping to more accurately depict the current economic conditions.

  44. Or someone in Authority or Government to “Advocate” for legalized theft. This is simply wrong on its face.

  45. CW,
    Although my thought for this gravatar is ‘Judgement” for evil doers towards our Country, People and Economy (Socialist/Communist and reason for the Reaper), – Guilty, I don’t want to make it gory as a Holloween icon. Rather the third Christmas Ghost, Ghost of the “Future”.

    I could change it to the Second Ghost, the Ghost of the present.

  46. I’ll give it some more thought. Its new, and have time. Certainly like the input from yourself and others.

  47. William, kidding of course.

  48. CW, I know that.. LOL…

    But did what to explain my thoughts behind it.

    And really, the second Ghost does have the suffering of humanity and children, so may not be a bad idea to reflect.

  49. William | November 29, 2013 at 7:57 am |

    Gordo,
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sorry Gordo,

    I was responding to “Observer”.

  50. November 29, 2013

    sundance:

    “‘But, He Was Such a Good Boy’ – Thug Shot While Committing Armed Robbery – Now Thug’s Family Angry About It….”

    “Remember last week when Black Community leaders in Brooklyn New York said they wouldn’t stop beating Jews and Non-Blacks unless they were paid? Believe it or not, I think this story out of Alabama actually has that insufferable logic topped.

    During a store robbery a thug held a group of customers at gunpoint. The thug held the gun to the head of one of the customers and threatened to shoot. Another customer in the store was armed, took position and told the gunman to “drop his weapon”.

    The thug turned to shoot the armed shopper. The customer shot the thug. Now the thug’s family says the shopper should have just kept on going and minded his own business – they are quite upset. They say of the good Samaritan: “what gives him the right to shoot someone”?

    MOBILE, Ala. (WALA) – The family of a suspected thief is lashing out after their son was shot during an armed robbery.

    Relatives of Adric White, 18, [pictured above] believe the Good Samaritan who opened fire should have “just left the store.”

    Court records show that White was out on bond for robbing The Original Oyster House at gunpoint a little more than a month before the Family Dollar robbery.”

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/29/but-he-was-such-a-good-boy-thug-shot-while-committing-armed-robbery-now-thugs-family-angry-about-it/

  51. Obama’s Disdain For The Constitution Means We Risk Losing Our Republic

    By M. Northrop Buechner

    Since President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law, he has changed it five times. Most notably, he suspended the employer mandate last summer. This is widely known, but almost no one seems to have grasped its significance.

    The Constitution authorizes the President to propose and veto legislation. It does not authorize him to change existing laws. The changes Mr. Obama ordered in Obamacare, therefore, are unconstitutional. This means that he does not accept some of the limitations that the Constitution places on his actions. We cannot know at this point what limitations, if any, he does accept.

    By changing the law based solely on his wish, Mr. Obama acted on the principle that the President can rewrite laws and—since this is a principle—not just this law, but any law. After the crash of Obamacare, many Congressmen have implored the President to change the individual mandate the same way he had changed the employer mandate, that is, to violate the Constitution again.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/11/19/obamas-disdain-for-the-constitution-means-we-risk-losing-our-republic/

  52. Jonah,

    And I’m waiting like most Americans when the Congress is going to challenge his illegal actions of arbitrarily changing laws to the courts, rather than they sit back a bicker about how its illegal. They have legal recourse, it they chose it. Today, they have done nothing.

  53. William……..
    Happy BLACK FRIDAY,as your wallet grows thinner har har. Hey I have to take the position that during WW2,and immediately thereafter the Vatican was SYMPATHETIC towards UPPER ECHELON Nazis,and DIRECTLY assisted them to escape being captured,and tried. While this was allegedly the act of only one Cardinal, others knew well what was going on but chose to look the other way. In Rreality they too went outside of their own preaching in assisting KNOWN MURDERERS….But,I do not condemn the entirety of the Catholic Church for this I do condemn those who perpetrated the acts,as well as those who chose to look away.

  54. Suek………
    Did you receive my email? Still getting SMTP error messages(OUTGOING EMAIL) port 25. I have nothing to do with the operation of Comcast…..this is their bullshi#. My computer system is UP TO SPEED. In looking around on the complaint list I discovered that Comcast has been electronically blocking the port 25,because of the amount of spamming that it is passing. Comcast contends that spammers use private servers to pass their CRAPOLA,and Comcast says that they are FORCED to block port 25 for that reason…which is NOT MY FAULT. I am PAYING them for internet service…if they cannot deliver 100% service then VOILA I’m out of the contract.

  55. ……in addition perhaps it is time for Comcast to start inventing other methods of getting rid of SPAM,and the perpetrators. I do know that I am about 1 fraction of an inch away from saying GOODBY to Comcast,and HELLO to another IP.

  56. …………I hope that somebody at Comcast is reading what I am saying, that is ifd he/she has the ability to read….at all!

  57. Jonah…………
    Alle3gedly Soetoro taught Constitutional law at Chicago. There is NO EXISTING RECORD of him ever having taught ANYTHING ANYWHERE,in the US. I personally believe that he is totally unaware of the contents of the Constitution, even the Bill of Rights.(1st 10 Articles). He likes to say this and that regarding the Constitution,but I believe that everything he says is being fed to him by others who themselves are TOTALLY IGNORANT of the Constitution. I believe that he is not even a citizen of the US because even the stupidest of Americans have some knowledge of our Constitution.

  58. ……..of course if Soetoro had taught classes on the subject of TELLING LIES we would have a hell of a lot of Phd level LIARS to contend with. Yet somehow I have the feeling that he has taught many of his GOON SQUAD members how to lie.

  59. bye bye all……I have overstayed on the blog ……I apologise! Have a great day all….Godbless!

  60. Unable to make headway with more gun control, Obama is resorting to the U.N.

    (Quote)
    According to recent reports, Obama’s gun control law is based on a 1961 State Department memorandum titled, “The United States Program For General And Complete Disarmament In  A Peaceful World.”  That’s right, a memorandum on how all second amendment rights will be disavowed and guns will be forcefully removed from citizen possession.

    It has happened before.  During the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, all guns were confiscated in order to ensure residents safety.  The truth of the matter was, if you had a gun, it was taken, sometimes leaving honest people with nothing to defend themselves with. 

    UN Troops Told To Kill Americans That Don’t Give Over Their Guns

    http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/11/28002-un-troops-told-to-kill-americans-that-dont-give-over-their-guns/

  61. Greetings to All Here at CW’s! I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving Day!
    All week I’ve been hampered from commenting, because of house renovation, a work-in-progress, but I’ve been reading every day.

  62. William, Re: Pope Francis: Yesteryear, he would have made those such as Stalin, Mao and Hitler proud.

    Just the opposite. They would be considered by Francis to be like the one world few controlling all assets today that he has been railing against and thus, like those former controllers of the masses, religion free society et al, are threatening the world today but in its entirety rather than individual countries or regions as did those totalitarians of the past…..and the poor are the first to be slaughtered en masse today as then that he is bringing the attention to and trying to protect…as did Christ. Remember, he comes from extremely class focused cultures and has witnessed the extreme abuse by the powerful. I also doubt if Hitler et al would put their lives on the line to fight against immoral laws such as those permitting gay marriage as happened in Argentina with Francis. Rather, without any consideration for even basic humanity, they would purge those they considered “unfit”. The morality in the world views here are like the difference between heaven and hell….completely divided so that once established in one it’s impossible to cross over to the other place!

  63. William,
    Your previous posts today concerning communism remind me of something I recently found among some old papers. It is from Dan Smoot’s report dated Dec. 18, 1961, over fifty years ago. You are too young probably to remember Dan Smoot, but he was an ardent anti-communist and was warning us then about the dangers we face.
    Quote:
    “The fundamental doctrine of Christianity is that imperfect man can be saved only by the grace of Jesus Christ.

    The fundamental doctrine of socialism is that all of man’s sins – all evils on earth – result from man’s physical environment. Consequently, government can create paradise by taking total control of the lives of all the people; all the evils on earth can be legislated away if government has enough power to create the right environment – enough power to regulate and control and distribute until everyone has an equal share of everything!

    It is at this point that preachers who regard themselves as Christian socialists begin to substitute government for God. It is at this point that the social gospel becomes socialism.

    There is the danger; the language of modern liberalism is so similar to the language of communism; the root ideas of socialism are so closely akin to contemporary doctrines of the social gospel that many cannot tell the difference.
    *********************************
    What he said is true today. The real nature of communism never changes, although the methods of implementation are adaptable to the conditions within a country as required. However, one thing always accompanies it:
    It was Dr. Fred Schwartz who many years ago wrote a book, Communism Kills. THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON.

  64. Looks like the Obots need more time for Soetoro to complete the wreckovation:

    Washington Post: Repeal presidential term limits

    As President Obama faces a small revolt within his own party, a Washington Post op-ed is calling for the United States to end presidential term limits and allow him to run again in 2016.

    “Barack Obama should be allowed to stand for re election just as citizens should be allowed to vote for — or against — him,” writes New York University Jonathan Zimmerman professor of history and education. “Anything less diminishes our leaders and ourselves.”

    Zimmerman argues that the president would enjoy more deference on such unpopular initiatives as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the recent nuclear-arms deal with Iran if he had a legal opportunity to seek additional terms in office.

    “Many of Obama’s fellow Democrats have distanced themselves from the reform and from the president,” he writes. “Even former president Bill Clinton has said that Americans should be allowed to keep the health insurance they have.

    “Or consider the reaction to the Iran nuclear deal,” Zimmerman continues. “Regardless of his political approval ratings, Obama could expect Republican senators such as Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and John McCain (Ariz.) to attack the agreement. But if Obama could run again, would he be facing such fervent objections from Sens. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Robert Menendez (D-N.J.)?”

    Zimmerman is untroubled by the prospect that long-term control of executive apparatus, along with the natural advantages of incumbency, might smooth the way for continuing rule by a president regardless of genuine popular will. The Obama Internal Revenue Service targeted the president’s political enemies before the 2012 election. The history of presidents for life in other nations shows ever-growing popular votes for the incumbent that in most cases masked widespread popular discontent.

    The Post op-ed also avoids an important pro-executive argument for term limits — that a second-term president freed from electoral hurly burly can focus on matters important to the nation. Obama made this argument explicitly to Russian President Dmitri Medvedev in March 2012, saying that he would have “more flexibility” to make concessions to Russia after his last election.

    Nor does Zimmerman entertain the possibility that Democrats may be fleeing Obama’s policies out of practical good sense, a move that they are free to make when not under pressure support a candidate for re-election. He notes correctly that George Washington established the two-term precedent not out of political philosophy but because he thought the republic was in good shape. But he does not specify what crises — other than the ones of Obama’s own making — the country is now facing that would require a third term.

    Zimmerman blames a “large Republican majority” that “took over Congress” in 1947 for the passage of the 22nd Amendment in 1951. In fact an amendment to the U.S. Constitution must be approved by the legislatures in two-thirds of the states. The presidential term limit was duly approved in this manner, and while the Democrat Harry Truman was in office at the time, the first full presidency under term limits was the administration of the exceedingly popular Dwight D. Eisenhower, under whom the nation enjoyed a lengthy period of peace and prosperity.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/29/washington-post-repeal-presidential-term-limits/#ixzz2m4HA1XZK

  65. A few threads back I posted that Lindsey Graham has quite a few challengers stepping up to take away his seat in the Senate. Now comes this…

    For the past 20 years, U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn has been virtually invulnerable in South Carolina’s lone Democratic congressional seat. He has been re-elected eight times in his district, which is majority African American, with no substantive Republican opposition. In 2012, he didn’t even have a Republican opponent.

    Next year, Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in the House, faces a challenge of a different sort from the other side of the aisle in the Rev. Leon Winn, a Republican black preacher.

    http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20131127/NEWS03/311270028/Clyburn-faces-different-kind-challenge-2014-election

  66. William, oldsailor,

    Why has Congress done nothing to impeach Obama when they have sufficient reason?
    A. They are so stupid that they don’t even realize that he has violated the Constitution time and time again.
    B. They don’t want political reprisal from the White House.
    C. They are afraid that the “Chicago way” has come to the White House and they fear for their lives.
    D. They have been blackmailed.
    E. They have been bribed.
    F. They are spineless cowards.
    G. They are concerned that disgruntled blacks will riot.
    H. All of the above.
    I. None of the above
    J. Other?

  67. Col. Lawrence Sellin (Ret):
    ————————
    From >>> January 26, 2013

    “Barack Obama is an illegal President and unindicted felon. Congress, the American media and the courts are engaged in a criminal conspiracy to conceal their complicity in perpetrating the Obama fraud on the American people. Law enforcement and our elected officials have chosen to risk the survival of the country rather than risk the truth.

    The US no longer has representative government. Members of Congress seek election not to uphold the Constitution and serve the American people, but to obtain power and to use that power to accrue professional and financial benefits for themselves and their major supporters. All the traditional means for the American people to seek the redress of grievances have now been blocked by a corrupt government composed of a self-absorbed permanent political elite unaccountable to the people.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/col-lawrence-sellin-status-quo-no.html
    ============
    From >>> July 13, 2012

    “Exposing Obama would reveal the depth of US Government corruption”

    “It is not now politically advantageous for either the Democrat or the Republican Party to tell the truth about Barack Obama; that he is an illegal President and very likely a felon, who has a forged birth certificate, a forged Selective Service registration and is using a Social Security Number not issued to him.

    Both parties are steadfastly protecting Obama to protect their investment in the corrupt political status quo.

    Both Democrats and Republican recognize that exposing Obama will lead to a bloodbath of revelations about their complicity to undermine the Constitution and flout the rule of law, which would jeopardize their comfortable lifestyles. The truth would generate genuine outrage among the American people.”

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/07/exposing-obama-would-reveal-depth-of-us.html
    ============
    “Ret.Col. Lawrence Sellin Explains Why Barack Obama Is Not In Jail”

    Published on JulY 28, 2012

  68. How bout this Mr. Obama………….
    Saudi’s deport 60,000 illegals, it’s time we need to do the same
    We need these jobs, not the illegals, but of course you want their votes.
    Shame on you.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/634211/saudi-arabia-deports-60000-foreigners-in-crackdown-on-illegals/

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