NC unemployment rate 8.8 percent?, Unchanged?, Labor Force Participation and percent of population drop .2 percent!!, Labor force and percent of population employed plummet from Jan to June

NC unemployment rate 8.8 percent?, Unchanged?, Labor Force Participation and percent of population drop .2 percent!!, Labor force and percent of population employed plummet from Jan to June

“North Carolina’s unemployment rate fell for the fourth consecutive month in May to 8.8 percent, but the slight drop was largely due to a shrinking labor force rather than the creation of new jobs, economists said.”…Raleigh News Observer June 21, 2013

“11.4%: What the U.S. unemployment rate would be if labor force participation were back to January 2008 levels.” …James Pethokoukis, American Enterprise Institute, June 2013

“The NC Labor Force Participation Rate plummeted 1.2 percent from Jan to June 2013.”...Citizen Wells



You are being lied to.

The media headlines state that the NC unemployment rate remained unchanged in June 2013.

They omit the fact that both the Labor Force Participation Rate and Employment to Population Rates both dropped .2 percent in June.

From the NC Employment Security Commission June 19, 2013.

“The state’s seasonally adjusted June unemployment rate was 8.8 percent, remaining unchanged from May’s revised rate. The national rate also remained unchanged at 7.6 percent.
North Carolina’s June 2013 unemployment rate was 0.8 of a percentage point lower than a year ago. The number of people employed decreased 10,958 over the month to 4,292,497, and increased 29,341 over the year. The number
of people unemployed increased 596 over the month to 416,767, and declined 33,782 over the year.”

The labor force and unemployment estimates are based on the same concepts and definitions as those used for the official national estimates obtained from the Current Population Survey (CPS), a sample survey of households that is conducted for the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) by the U.S. Census Bureau. The LAUS program measures employment and unemployment on a place-of-residence basis. The universe for each is the civilian noninstitutional population 16 years of age and over. Employed persons are those who did any work at all for pay or profit in the reference week (the week including the 12th of the month) or worked 15 hours or more without pay in a family business or farm, plus those not working who had a job from which they were temporarily absent,
whether or not paid, for such reasons as bad weather, labor-management dispute, illness, or vacation. Unemployed persons are those who were not employed during the reference week (based on the definition above), had actively looked for a job sometime in the 4-week period ending with the reference week, and were currently available for work; persons on lay-off expecting recall need not be looking for work to be counted as unemployed. The labor force is the sum of employed and unemployed persons. The unemployment rate is the number of unemployed as a percent of the labor force.”

Read more:

Here is the real story.

Not included in the above report which presents a favorable employment picture over 2012.

From Jan 2013 to June 2013.

The Labor Force Participation rate plummeted 1.2 percent!

The Employment to Population Rate plummeted .7 percent!

Don’t take my word for it. Look it up here.




46 responses to “NC unemployment rate 8.8 percent?, Unchanged?, Labor Force Participation and percent of population drop .2 percent!!, Labor force and percent of population employed plummet from Jan to June

  1. “Obama Classmate Wayne Allyn Root Rips Media Over Birther Issue; Why You Scared?”

    Tony’s comment at ORYR: “Mr. Root…Why aren’t you challenging Obama’s Birth Certificate? It’s been proven to be an absolute forgery..You are very vocal in this video about your intelligence and life achievements. Congratulations!…You’re certainly smart enough to understand the detailed analysis of the forgery and understand the implications of an occupant of our White House that doesn’t possess a single valid identity document. Mr. Root, at this stage in history having a toe in the “Birther” waters isn’t sufficient. It’s time you took a plunge into the waters of truth. You’ll feel clean, renewed and refreshed afterwards and may actually help the nation that you love.”

  2. “Conservatives Dismissed Birther Concerns To Tackle Obama On “Serious Issues” – How’s That Working Out?”

    By Susan Harris @ Freedom Outpost

    “… Conservatives who refused to acknowledge there was a problem with Obama’s birth certificate have continued to feel no responsibility for failing to defend Article II of the Constitution; and no remorse for attacking those who did. We watched them cite newspaper birth announcements, and a short form certificate, as proof enough. Eventually they accepted a long form certificate that experts and scientists agree was faked. “It’s not a winning issue,” was their mantra. Liberals so successfully mocked so-called “birthers,” that many Conservatives slunk off embarrassed and distancing themselves from those who continued to assert the issue had grave Constitutional ramifications.”

  3. From April 28, 2011

    Jeff Poor:

    “Steyn: Don’t end Obama’s presidency on the birther ‘rinky-dink technicality’”

    “However, Mark Steyn, a conservative columnist and substitute host for Rush Limbaugh’s Thursday show, argues using the birther argument to attempt to end Obama’s presidency is the wrong way to go. You want it to end after his policies are discredited, Steyn argues.

    One reason why I don’t want to get into, don’t particularly — never got excited about the birther business – I don’t want this president discredited and kicked out on a technicality,” Steyn said. “This isn’t like when Snoop Dogg found himself up on that murder rap and got acquitted on a technicality. I don’t want this president to be convicted on technical grounds. I don’t want this presidency to end on the technicality of whether he was born in Hawaii, or whether he was born in Mombasa, or whether he was born on the planet Krypton. …

    Thus, to defeat these ideas and not have them resurface, it is best to defeat Obama politically as opposed to defeating him on a technical issue over whether or not he is qualified to be president.

    … It’s not enough to end his presidency simply on some rinky-dink technicality like where the guy happened to be born. That’s my view on the thing.””


    The Iranians agree with President Obama. I’m so happy they care so much to support Obama! Is the friend of my enemy, my enemy?

  5. Too funny. Hopefully when you click on this link to Drudge, they are still showing Obama in a hoodie (after his divisive speech today, it’s perfect).

  6. Gordo,

    “Rinky dink technicality”, Steyn says. I used to respect that man. Not anymore. In fact I say “HOW DARE YOU Mark Steyn for moving to the US….taking advantage of our freedoms, then trashing our Constitution”. There was a reason our founders put the NBC requirement in there, Mr. Steyn.

  7. bob strauss

    From our news director Scottie Nell Hughes at Tea Party News Network

    If Obama had a son, he would look like Travon. If Obama had a city, it would look like Detroit. If Obama had a country, it would look like Cuba.

  8. Ha! Very funny, Bob. Thanks for that.

    Why is Steyn even commenting? Are things moving along? Seems like if it were a dead issue, he would stay away from it. Hmm.

  9. Maybe Sheriff Joe is getting too close for comfort. I still would be surprised if Congress does anything. They are all such weanies, but who am I to say?

  10. 2:19 AM here. Just heard helicopters…several. I’m not aware of any ‘exercises’ going on at this time of the morning. This is NOT your normal air traffic..

  11. Good Morning! I see that Brad Thor is offering to buy George Zimmerman a new pistol now that the DOJ is trying to put a hold on release of his.

  12. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.

  13. oldsailor81

    The state of Florida cannot legally revoke Zimmerman’s CONCEALED WEAPON CARRY permit. He only used the weapon IN SELF DEFENSE…. which is why he carries it in the first place. You can look for the BASTARDS to start INVENTING REASONS. The family of Trayvon Martin think that he has done no wrong……….of course that is to say NONE THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT,or are willing to talk about. Anyone who thinks that they do not know about their own son is really a DUMMY.

  14. oldsailor81

    ……it is even conceiveable that it was Trayvon and his punk friends who were doing a lot of the burglaries. Simple math tells the truth. Unfortunately none of the Trayvon supporters will do a criminal history on Trayvon. Wonder why?

  15. oldsailor81

    I am looking for the NC labor market to behave generally the same as it has over the entire US. There has been a steady decline in the labor force over a span of MANY states. Only Texas has held fast. Seems to tell a story. It is a serious state of affairs when a city,county,or state loses their trained labor pool,because this leaves only a large number of UNEMPLOYABLE people,and youngsters coming in to the labor market who need to be trained. This translates to quite an expenditure for employers,and in all probability they will not add any UNTRAINED,or INEXPERIENCED employees in the near future. One by one all of the incentives for people to expand their businesses have disappeared. Don’t look for any substantial recovery in the near term Business operators will leave the US first.

  16. ………….particularly MANUFACTURING companies, with highly competitive products. Why pay an untrained employee a HUGE WAGE to shove a color coded bolt in a color coded hole,and put a color coded nut on it and tighten it with a color coded IMPACT WRENCH? If you are going to train somebody it only makes sense to train a laborer who receives only a third of what his US counterpart receives. You cannot pay UNSKILLED personell the same wage that the CEO of the company receives. Of course the UNIONS think that EVERYBODY should get CEO PAY. Therein lies the HALF WIT reasoning of GREED LABOR.

  17. Good morning my friends,

    Finally home this weekend. I need to post a joke of the day later. RMinNC is ahead of me. Perhaps some Irish jokes later? 🙂 Bunch of white crackers they are! LOL… You do know that Irish people living in the South have to put on so much sun screen it makes them even whiter? Nothing like the view of a paper white Irishman with a tan around a speedo! 🙂

    In any event, love you all, have a busy family day out with tons of fun.

  18. …..BUT…….nor will I let greedy CEOs off the hook either. During my lifetime I have witnessed a number of companies whose upper management became greedy,and began pricing their products higher and higher,even though there was no reason for the manufacturing cost to justify the huge price increases. In terms of dollars in the cash register,the translation was bigger and better sales bonuses,unjustified salary increases, and a host of allegedly related issues. Many CEOs have been the culprit behind many public scams. Remember ENRON Here was a classic case of an artificial market. Look where the CEO,and a couple of his cohorts ended up. Henry J Kaiser was a BUSINESS STRIPPER.. He would buy companies then strip their assets then put the company into bankruptcy, He made billions from his corporate raids.

  19. ……….this sort of behavior has taken a few new twists but still is the same basic game. Some ceos try to compete in markets where their products CANNOT compete. These people should never have the key to the CEOs office. They are real numbskulls. Some CEOs arrive at a company without a ounce of experience with a specific market. Most of the time it isn’t long before the company is bankrupt. This is especially true wqhen a CEO takes over a UNIONISED company. He delegates the wheeling and dealing to lower echelon people who give away everything including the kitchen sink. just to get a contract with the Union. Much of the time that company is bankrupt within a couple of years.

  20. Hi William……..
    Isn’t it great to come home from work place,to relax, then put on your overalls and GO TO WORK. Always seemed a little unfair to me. I used to burn the midnight oil almost every weekday,then come home only to work the entire weekend doing repairs ,or maintenance to the property. Used to own a 28′ Bayside Cruiser,……unfortunately it was in the water only once during the four year period that I ownwed it.

  21. ……….but the fact that it was not in the water didn’t make any difference to the State,and County. Their tax bills were always there. I finally decided that I didn’t need all of that sort of crap. I simply rent a boat whenever I feel like playing “SAILOR” again. That is even getting pretty salty now. I recently priced a FLOAT BOAT at Patoka State Reservoir for one day. They wanted $600.00. They told me that this was a bargain. So much for bargains. Hell will freeze over before I pay some jerk $600.00 for a half sunk piece of junk that he thinks is rentable. Yeah I was born yesterday but in another sense of the word.

  22. William…….
    There are a hell of a lot of people who don’t know that the South from Kentucky Eastward, Southward, and Westward is filled with a hell of a lot of Irish,Scots, and even some LIMEJUICERS like me. Consider the name of the Kentucky city London. The people who settled in these states were largely people from Irish hill country, Scottish hill country, and places like Northumbria, in England. One of the most brightly RED HEADED people I have ever known was a CELT,from Kentucky

  23. Suek

    A few months ago when we lived near an airport we had helicopters fly over four at a time and when each four gassed up and left the same direction they came, four more would come. It was at least 40 or fifty altogether. Maybe they came from the National Guard but I doubt it because they would not of had enough room for all of them to land.

    Now I am hearing jets fly over low and there is no airport any where near where I live. For them to fly so low for me to hear them is beyond my understanding on what is going on. At least I do not see the chem trails from those jets. hmmmm


    The Trayvon Martin killing was a tragedy that, as far as I’m concerned, never should have happened. It was a classic case of really bad judgment on the part of both the involved individuals, with Zimmerman following Trayvon when he shouldn’t have and Martin attacking Zimmerman when he shouldn’t have and both men responsible for painting themselves into one of those tight corners where somebody has to be hurt.

    But the case, as tragic as it was, was made many times worse by an irresponsible media and civil rights leaders who exploited it for whatever ink and TV face time they could get out of it.

    In the time that the Zimmerman trial was going on there were sixty-one murders in Chicago, forty-three of them were black males and seven of those black males were under the age of 18, most of them died from gunshot wounds, all violent, all senseless. Do Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson just not care as much about the black male population of Chicago, or is it that they just can’t garner as much media attention there?

    Speaking of media attention, a young white couple, students at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, was carjacked, raped, tortured and murdered.

    The young man, Christopher Newsome, was raped and beaten, then castrated, shot, his body dumped by train tracks and set on fire while his girlfriend, Channon Christian, was forced to watch.

    Channon was gang raped over a period of days, her breasts cut off while she was still alive, then had cleaning fluid sprayed in her mouth in an attempt to erase the traces of DNA and her body put into a garbage receptacle.

    Maybe you’re wondering why you haven’t heard about this inhuman crime, perhaps you think your local paper didn’t have time to cover it yet.

    I seriously doubt that, since the crime took place in August of 2006, and your local news outlets, most probably never covered it. I live about 150 miles from where it took place and, to the everlasting shame of networks and the local news media I didn’t hear about it either until somebody brought my attention to it on the internet.

    How could a crime this heinous, this inhuman, this completely evil escape the notice of the mass media and the talking heads who are always screaming for equal justice under the law?

    Simple, it doesn’t fit their agenda, the perpetrators were all black, all five of them. If this wasn’t a case of blatant black racism, I truly don’t know what is. Do you honestly believe there wasn’t racial bias involved in the choosing of the victims and the malicious violence that was done to them, and yet this story, one of the most hideous murders of the decade, was not covered by the media and was completely ignored by the so called civil rights leaders of all colors.

    A dangerous precedent has been set by Eric Holder’s Justice Department and aided and abetted by the mainstream American media, selective prosecution and selective journalism all calculated to push a political agenda that drives the races in this nation farther apart every day.

    No good will come from Al Sharpton or Jessee Jackson calling for demonstrations around the nation, already a group of blacks have beaten a random Hispanic citizen claiming, “This is for Trayvon”, and more is scheduled.

    What’s the difference in this black racism and what the KKK was doing a few short decades ago. Is this what Sharpton and his ilk want to see happen,… anarchy in the name of prejudice? Isn’t that the very thing he’s supposed to be fighting against?

    America cannot continue down this path and remain the land of the free and the home of the brave where all men are treated equal under the law.

    America desperately needs a president who is a uniter, not a divider, a Justice Department that actually wants to enforce the law equally, regardless of color or race, a Congress and Senate who could reclaim their testicles and a media which reports the news instead of trying to make it.

    Blind hate is blind hate no matter what color it comes in.

    I will not be a part of it.

    What do you think?

    Pray for our troops and the peace of Jerusalem.

    God Bless America

    Charlie Daniels
    When Charlie speaks, I listen……it would benefit all. if they would also listen….

    I guess good old Charlie will now be openly declared a racist by Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama for the common sense stand he has taken against all racism…both black and white……

    By the way, Charlie is not a relative of the also famous Jack Daniels..

  25. Rminnc……..
    Is this the same Charlie Daniels the band leader. While I do not know all that much about him I have heard a lot of his music. Great stuff! I have heard that Jack Daniels was the MOONSHINER who went legal.

  26. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Concerning ‘boats” oldsailor81 –

    “The two happiest days in a man’s life is when he buys his first boat AND the day he sells it !.” – John Wayne

  27. YES Oldsailor81….you are correct…that is the same Charlie Daniels…

    His HOT filddle and his when “The Devil Went Down To Georgia” , plus his big cowboy hat and long white beard made him famous…

    His down to earth logic makes him a real American……He also had a commentary part on a recent documentary video called “Behold a Pale Horse”…this is a very good patriotic video on whats happening in America today…….I think you may be able to get it on youtube….its worth a try…

    One of Charlie’s famous sayings in this video still sticks with me today….He said, ….”It’s time to ride boys….we need a thousand Paul Reveres !”….

    I couldn’t agree more with Charlie…it is time to ride…….

  28. bob strauss

    Mr. Bill(ms. helga) | July 20, 2013 at 11:58 am |

    Concerning ‘boats” oldsailor81 –

    “The two happiest days in a man’s life is when he buys his first boat AND the day he sells it !.” – John Wayne
    Also, a boat, is a hole in the water, you throw money into.

  29. bob strauss

    DEVELOPING: Top NSA and DOJ Officials Have Fled the U.S. – Obama Admin. Files Espionage Charges

    by David Harris GershonFollow

  30. Time to Ride Boys……..We Need at thousand Paul Reveres….

  31. bob strauss

    The Federal Election Commission has backed the fundraising strategies employed by Barack Obama during the 2012 election cycle, rejecting a complaint that charged Obama’s organization broke the law by “soliciting, processing, accepting and confirming contributions from foreign nationals and non-U.S. citizens.”


    There’s a lesson here for all of humanity…but no ones listening


    Krauthammer: Obama Was Plotting Benghazi Cover Story Before Last Two Americans Were Dead

    Charles Krauthammer let loose on President Obama last night on The O’Reilly Factor:

    I think there is a bigger story here that will in time come out. The biggest scandal of all, the biggest question is what was the president doing in those eight hours. He had a routine meeting at five o’clock. He never after during the eight hours when our guys have their lives in danger, he never called the Secretary of Defense, he never calls the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he never called the CIA Director, Who does he call? But five hours in he calls the Secretary of State. And after the phone call she releases a statement essentially about the video and how we denounce any intolerance. It looks as if the only phone call is to construct a cover story at a time when the last two Americans who died were still alive and fighting for their lives. There’s the scandal and that has to be uncovered.”

  34. Please bear with my simple mind. We have a president that is half white and half black. Then we have George Zimmerman who is, I guess half white and half hispanic (with a black great grandfather). How is this a racial issue? Tell me? I wonder how hispanics feel about this. Are they as bewildered as I am? This makes no sense to me. Why would O inject himself at all in to this unless he wants some real ugliness. I keep wondering though, if he’s aware that hispanics can’t help but take notice. Many that are here, whether legally or not, have probably intermarried and produced “white hispanic” children.

    I have grandchildren who are, I guess you could say, “white hispanic”. Their grandfather is Puerto Rican and their grandmother is German,(speaking of my son-in-law’s side).

    Point being, this is ridiculous! Anyone who wants to keep this fight going should take a step backwards. I don’t think most Americans have the stomach for it…. Black, White or Hispanic.

    My dad used to say, (sorry, this might reveal that he was probably a liberal in his day), “What if they held a war and nobody came?” Sometimes questions, rather than statements, seem to linger in your mind.

    I am done with this case! I am glad GZ was found not guilty as he should have been. I feel sorry for those who follow Jessie Jackpot and Al Charlatan, They can’t think for themselves. I also resent the conservatives who have a stake in beating a dead horse.

    Let it go. Love your neighbor.

  35. oldsailor81

    Bob Strauss……..
    You are right on the money………hole in the water….. I came to that same conclusion after the third year of ownership. I had in the interim acually operated the boat for about an hour,after which it was retrailered taken home,and set for another two years before it was finally sold. It was sold for a huge loss. Boats that are much over 25′ are not easy to dispose of legally. I had it on the market for nearly three years before a guy in the upper peninsula decided to buy it.

  36. oldsailor81

    Krauthammer is right on the money. The OUT OF TOUCH time needs to be accounted for. Probably having a little ANAL sex with his gay lover…….too busy to worry about people being MURDERED. The only thing he done was telephone the SOS to devise a cover story. I believe that it is time to haul Mssssssssssssss.Clinton into the courtroom and tell her that she can talk or she will receive slammer time until she does talk. Once again the Clinton BULLSHI#, just like Whitewater.

  37. oldsailor81


  38. OldSailor,

    I fortunately got away with not doing any “honey-do” chores today. I took the family out for the day and recently returned. Of course, that means I have twice as much to do tomorrow. 🙂

    You are correct pertaining to the Irish that settled in the South. Those White Cracker’s are still in them thar hills. Hold’en on to their guns and bibles. LOL…. 🙂

    I’ll send you (via email) and RMinNC, and SueQ, and Cabby, a video I took with my cell phone while out today. You’ll love it.

    1) We look out for each other in the South, even with strangers.

    2) If you hear this kind of music, you either know you are seriously lost and better worry, or feel right at home amongst family, friends and strangers.

  39. bob strauss

    NAACP Leader Can’t Name Any Of 61 People Murdered In Chicago During Zimmerman Trial (Click to View)

  40. SueQ,

    You are correct hun. In fact, the media made an entirely new race – White Hispanic. Let’s seen them now move forward to make law that that title is put on their Birth Certificates. Hold them to it!

  41. bob strauss

    oldsailor81 | July 20, 2013 at 5:26 pm |

    Bob Strauss……..
    You are right on the money………hole in the water….. I came to that same conclusion after the third year of ownership.
    Boats are fun if you have the time to use them, and lots of money for repairs, storage, fuel, permits, the list goes on. Not everybody has a lake in their backyard, so towing is another expense.

    I liked to fish, and water ski, in my speedo, ( for William) and used mine all the time while I lived in Texas. After a towing accident I sold the remains for three hundred dollars.

  42. William | July 20, 2013 at 8:14 pm |


    You are correct hun. In fact, the media made an entirely new race – White Hispanic. Let’s seen them now move forward to make law that that title is put on their Birth Certificates. Hold them to it!

    How about we start calling O a “White African American”?

  43. Bob,

    LOL.. I can see you water skiing in a speedo, it fits (the perception).

    I have never owned a boat, but had and have friends that do. I love to water ski myself, as well as fishing, tubing and simply being on the lake. The Tennessee river and dock is only 5 minutes from my property.

    Here is a funny, but true story Bob. A few years ago while on vacation with my family at Gulf Shores Alabama and Pensacola FL. area, there were bodies all over the beach; some swimming, some tanning, a parachute ride being pulled by a high speed boat, ect. All the things you expect on a beach in that area.

    My oldest daughter was with us and 20 years old at that time and still in college. Of course, she was looking for all the buff guys and showing herself off, being tanned herself, fit and in a bikini.

    However, during the afternoon, this high dollar boat (most likely 200 grand), was slowly – and I mean slowly, cruising just off shore checking out all the women on the beach. I nudged my daughter whom was laying down tanning and not paying attention and said: honey, check him out, there you go! She jumped and looked, (this is funny as hell).

    The guy was around my age or slightly older (50’s), couldn’t have been more than 5’5 in height, completely grey with an afro, had one hand on the wheel and the other on his hip (like a big deal he was), nothing but a speedo on, or perhaps a half a speedo (it was tiny, and so was everything else), a beer gut that overhang the speedo.

    She dang near killed me… LOL I said honey, you never know, he just might be a doctor? She still punched me in the arm. I teased her about that for a couple of years. She was so excited, until….

    That’ll teach her….. LOL

  44. oldsailor81

    William…….Re. 9:18 PM
    Regarding your daughter story… YEP surprises have a way of coming out of LEFT FIELD. The boat that I owned was nothing when it was next to the 50′ and 75′ yachts on Lake Michigan. I felt like a child when I pulled into the marina. My boat was only a 28′, and didn’t have ALL of the bells and whistles. Lesser folks might have even developed inferiority complexes with such a tiny boat. I am certain that there was a lot of HAR HAR DE HAR HARs when the owners of the biggies looked out their ports and saw my little boat coming in.

  45. oldsailor81

    ………but on the other hand the Japanese at Midway laughed at the American destroyer escorts………until the torpedoes started arriving at the sides of their battleships and aircraft carriers fired from the DEs,then they tried to flee. But when they did they left behind,on the bottom of the straits several of their most important warships,along with the largest portion of their crewmen as well.

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