Blagojevich appeal filed July 15, 2013, Attorney Len Goodman, Lauren Kaeseberg, Judge James Zagel barred FBI wiretap evidence, Juror bias, Why was appeal delayed?

Blagojevich appeal filed July 15, 2013, Attorney Len Goodman, Lauren Kaeseberg, Judge James Zagel barred FBI wiretap evidence, Juror bias, Why was appeal delayed?

“Why did Judge James Zagel allow only 2 percent of the Blagojevich wiretaps to be released?”…Citizen Wells

“I can tell you that, based on court rules and procedures, Judge James Zagel carries some of the blame for the delay in the transcripts.

The question is, what was Judge Zagel’s motivation?”…Citizen Wells

“Regardless of how this plays out, it benefits Obama. If there is no appeal or the appeal is denied, Blagojevich will be sequestered. If the appeal proceeds, it could drag out beyond impacting the 2012 election cycle. The intent is obvious.”…Citizen Wells, July 19, 2011

From The Oakland Press July 16, 2013.

“Blagojevich appeals convictions, stiff sentence”

“Lawyers for Rod Blagojevich filed an appeal Monday challenging the imprisoned former Illinois governor’s corruption conviction and stiff, 14-year prison term.

The lengthy filing with the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago comes more than two years after the Chicago Democrat’s retrial and 16 months after he entered a federal prison in Colorado.

Jurors convicted Blagojevich, 56, of engaging in wide-ranging corruption, including that the two-term governor sought to profit from his power to appoint someone to the U.S. Senate seat that Barack Obama vacated to become president.

The appeal cites a juror who allegedly expressed a bias against Blagojevich who was seated despite the objections of defense attorneys. It also raises longstanding claims that Judge James Zagel barred FBI wiretap evidence that might have aided the defense and argues the judge miscalculated the appropriate prison term.

The appeal was filed about 30 minutes before a midnight deadline to do so.

In June, Blagojevich’s attorneys requested permission to file a longer-than-usual appeal, noting the trial produced 12,000 pages of transcripts. “The issues for appeal are numerous and complicated,” they wrote. The court agreed to let them file the equivalent of about 100 pages, which is what they did.

Blagojevich was convicted on 18 counts over two trials, jurors in the first deadlocking on all but one count. Taking the stand in the second, decisive trial in 2011, Blagojevich insisted his talking about wanting to sell Obama’s seat was just that — talk.

At his sentencing hearing later in 2011, an uncharacteristically deferential Blagojevich asked Zagel for mercy and said he accepted responsibility. He told the court in a hushed voice, “I caused it all.”

Despite those words, Zagel imposed a lengthy prison term, telling Blagojevich he had abused voters’ trust and undermined the democratic process “to do things that were only good for yourself.”

Many observers at the time said Blagojevich’s best hope on appeal wasn’t that a higher court would overturn his convictions but that appellate judges would agree his sentence was too harsh.”

The appeal.

147 responses to “Blagojevich appeal filed July 15, 2013, Attorney Len Goodman, Lauren Kaeseberg, Judge James Zagel barred FBI wiretap evidence, Juror bias, Why was appeal delayed?

  1. July 16, 2013

    “Obama Classmate Wayne Allyn Root Rips MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Over Birther Issue”
    By Wayne Allyn Root @ The Blaze

    “Yet, if one American actually dares to ask questions about our President, suddenly all hell breaks loose.

    I am an American who is not afraid to ask. I have many questions about President Obama’s background, actions, and policies. I’m willing to stand up in public and question and criticize. The result: first came vicious IRS attacks. Then after I beat them again and again, next came the national media attack.

    This past week MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow tried to defame and slander me in a bizarre, rambling 15 minute diatribe. She even gave me a name, “birther.” It sounds similar to “murderer,” except it only means I dared ask questions about Obama. Funny enough that none of the questions I have asked about the President ever involved his birth or birth certificate. Never. Not once. But hysterical defenders of Obama never let a fact get in the way of a good slander.

    Rather than attacking a patriotic American, shouldn’t journalists like Rachel Maddow be asking questions of the President? Do the answers to the questions I asked scare her that much? Am I getting that close to the truth? Do I pose that much of a threat?”

    bob68’s comment at ORYR: “Mr. Root talks about how important it is to ask questions about the putative president…and then carefully says he has never questioned the 100% proven forged birth certificate of Obozo. He talks about Alinsky and at the same time proves its effectiveness by avoiding the most important issue of Obama’s made up past.

    There is a disconnect in Mr. Root’s logic, maybe he hasn’t noticed it yet?”

  2. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    I’m sorry, but when Rachel Jeantel said that the Jury was “old”, she showed her ignorance.

    “They don’t understand “us”, and it is “our” time” kind of crap saddens me.

    If this is the future, we are in for a huge disaster, and the sad part is she doesn’t even realize how IGNORANT she comes across as.

    And it appeared that Morgan made her more and more comfortable, and she just kept right on spewing her NONspeak.

    So Jeantel now talks for the “black” community?

    I’d be embarrassed.

    Needless to say, I didn’t watch it live, I’m seeing hi-lites, but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen the whole interview now.

  3. Interested Bystander

    I’ve heard that Sharpton is calling for demonstrations this Saturday.

    And if I heard O’Mara correctly, he said that he would have a field day with any civil case brought against George.

    I’ll again ask, if “they” are so for going after someone who violated someone’s civil rights, how about jumping on the New England Patriot’s tight end (Hernandez) whom it appears planned and carried out the killing of a young (27) black kid?

    To learn more than you need to know about the Aaron Henandez case:

    Why do they keep beating this dead horse?

    Why isn’t Holder out there saying Justice was served, instead of that it was an unnecessary killing?

    It sure does seem to me that they are INCITING a reaction.

  4. Interested Bystander

    Just a question I’m sure NO ONE will answer,


    Can anyone tell me ONE occupation that isn’t subsidized by our Government?

    If everyone is getting paid by, or regulated by the Government, then how are we any different from Russia?

    Boy to be FREE again.

    To be honest, I don’t think I can actually say I know what FREEDOM is. I believe once our Government started Social Security, our freedom was eroded until we have what we have today.

    Maybe someone can come up with an even earlier start in our erosion.

  5. Interested Bystander

    I’d also like to add to my Jeantel comment that she’ll probably make lots of dollars for a year or so (if she plays her cards right).

    I’ll also predict that she’ll be broke within 5 years.

  6. “murderer”

    Total disregard for the Justice System, with a smile.

    wonder what’s in it for her.

  7. Why He Calls Them Savages…

    Now lets see the blacks community question this man’s intelligence

  8. Like the man said….It is what it is……

  9. CW……This should be of great interest to you…perhaps our Bibles are next


    It’s just that easy, I guess, to remove a book from electronic readers.

    Thousands of people last week discovered that Amazon had quietly removed electronic copies of George Orwell’s 1984 from their Kindle e-book readers.

    In the process, Amazon revealed how easy censorship will be in the Kindle age and the near future..

    In this case, the mass e-book removals were motivated by copyright . A company called MobileReference, who did not own the copyrights to the books 1984 and Animal Farm, uploaded both books to the Kindle store and started selling them. When the rights owner heard about this, they contacted Amazon and asked that the e-books be removed. And Amazon decided to erase them not just from the store, but from all the Kindles where they’d been downloaded. Amazon operators used the Kindle wireless network, called WhisperNet, to quietly delete the books from people’s devices and refund them the money they’d paid.”
    Wouldn’t Hitler have just loved to be alive today…with all our modern capability to censor people and their activities….but not to worry….we have Barack Hussain O, who seems to be doing a pretty good job.

    Orwell just rolled over in his grave….again !

  10. This is Dedicated to all my Old Friends….

    Take a trip down Memory Lane with me…

  11. I am posting this again because it is such a good summary. I wish more hispanics would start speaking up for him. Zimmerman is being railroaded. Let’s start talking about Benghazi again. This is all a distraction they are inventing to hide what they really are doing.


    The late great Mickey Newbury at his best…..

  13. oldsailor 81

    Tina……….RE 8:17 PM
    It has indeed already begun. While not in the numbers I would like to see it HAS BEGUN. The Hispanics are INDEED angered. Angering a Hispanic is NEVER constructive. The near future will bear this out.

  14. oldsailor 81

    I personally believe that no federal prosecution will ever happen, regarding any civil rights allegations from the DOJ. They know that they are facing a huge drop in the Latino,and Hispanic vote if they do try to prosecute him a second time. Many of the so called feds are already facing a very high stakes series of lawsuits by Zimmerman. BTW he HAS STANDING.

  15. Thanks, oldsailor. Good thoughts.

  16. Hey OLDSAILOR81…..

    Would Hank Have Done it This Way?….

    being from Tennessee, I kinda think he would….

  17. oldsailor 81

    …..and if even ONE of these lawsuits are successful the next becomes much easier because of …PRECEDENT,and each lawsuit thereafter will use the prior lawsuit as a basis of discovery, and subsequent adjudication. If done correctly Zimmerman possesses the potential tp become a multi millionaire literally overnight. I pray that SHOVEL FACE SHARPY,and JACK OFF JACKEY are the first to be hit …..BIG TIME.

  18. oldsailor 81

    …….and hopefully there will be NO RESPITE allowed, no matter how ill the wind.


    I’m plum politic-ed out for the night….

  20. Apparently, a group of blacks attacked an Hispanic man in Baltimore, saying, “this is for Trayvon”. If these attacks continue, it will be Obama’s and the DemoRat Party’s worst nightmare.

  21. Tina…….I absolutely agree. All this is just a distraction from what this administration is doing behind the scenes. Or a better description is: while we are paying attention to what the right hand is doing, we are completely unaware of what the left hand is up to. I also believe that’s why there are so many (40 +) czars who are in the background throwing out one distraction after another and, though I hate to have to even think about it, Snowden may also be one of those distractions. While we are concentrating on all that’s in front of us, the administration is transferring arms to our enemies, working on gun control here (Sandy Hook didn’t work so we’ll try the Zimmerman-Martin angle) interfering in the Egyptian uprising, Syria and has anyone heard anything else about Benghazi or Fast and Furious or the IRS attacking conservative groups or NSA tracking every single communication on every single American citizen that this administration would love to label terrorists? And one of the biggest fears of the left is the investigative proof of Obama’s birth certificate and selective service card fraud found out by the Cold Case Posse. They cannot throw anything out that can dispute the facts and they are in a tizzy. We are being manipulated by a similarity of the magician’s “slight of hand” and manufactured distractions & disruptions. That’s what I see. JMHO

  22. oldsailor 81

    I sometimes wonder if HANK would have accomplished if he would have left the sauce alone. This same question also appies to the late George Jones. But at the same time they were both revered just as they were……alcohol and all. I was one of the admirers of both,and enjoyed their music.


    for a laugh or two…….good night all…pleasant dreams and happy trails…

  24. oldsailor 81

    and in Chicago two blacks shot a 18 month old infant to death. Remember the BBlack panther expression “CRACKA BABIES”, and what they PROMISED to DO. MURDERING AN INFANT must require a REALLY BRAVE MAN. In reality such animals should be erradicated on sight. I personally believe that ultimately the return of the hogleg is IMMINENT, except it won’t be the old peacemaker, it will be weapons capable of a hell of a lot more lead in one second.

  25. George’s Mother and his Grandparents

    How Orwellian of Amazon; hopefully, the thousands of purchasers will perceive the irony of their chains.

  26. Good morning America…how are ya?
    I’m back on my soap box this morning, all bright-eyed and bushy tailed ….. and looking for a windmill to conquer.

    From the American Thinker this AM……

    “We are forever being told by the left about how awful this country is for anyone who is not WHITE. BLACKS are being gunned down in the streets by non-blacks. EXCEPT THEY ARE NOT. MUSLIMS are being discriminated against wholesale, and are afraid to leave their homes. EXCEPT THEY ARE NOT. GUN OWNERS are violent crazies bent on mass murder, EXCEPT THEY ARE NOT. CHRISTIANS are trying to force their religion on everyone. EXCEPT THEY ARE NOT. And TEA PARTY members are racists and violent. EXCEPT THEY ARE NOT.
    Folks, theres’ an open and in your face “all out effort” to divide this country called America by race, religion and politics….Someone setting in a very high position of power is a very serious student of history……The “Number Uno” Rule in the Book of Conquest states :
    …………………………DIVIDE AND CONQUER……………………………………………
    …………The decline starts from there…Just ask Ceasar ! ………………………..

    Everything else is secondary in this game of power, people, and pomp.

  27. Another reason to end the fraud, and remove the usurper.

    Outright Fraud by U.S. Treasury


    Why in the world would anyone cremate the body of a dead person without the consent of that persons family, if that family was fully avaIIabe to give or withhold their consent?

    That is what the family of Michael Hastings now wants to know, and they’ve hired a private detective to find out why Michael was cremated without their consent. Is this more proof of a CIA or US military hit upon a ‘potential problem’? Is this the NDAA at work?

    Something here stinks to high heaven and it’s not the family of Michael Hastings.

    iI s this a case of legal MURDER authorized and covered up by our government? We most likely will never know.

  29. Thanks, thistle. I agree. Good words.


    This redheaded idiot fro the State Department just said on this press conference that Snowden has NO rights as an American other than to return to the US and stand trial in their Kangaroo court for his high crime of spying against the US… 12:09 in this press conference and also at 19:00 she practically states Snowden has NO rights as a citizen……My question of our government is:EXACTLY WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE AFRAID SNOWDEN WILL DUMP TO THE REST OF THE WORLD?

    If America HAS NOT been doing the nasties on the rest of the world..then our government should not be afraid of anything Snowden can bring forth to the eyes of other countries.

    If America HAS been doing the nasties to every other country on earth, then perhaps Snowden should release this information….after all….We pride ourselves as being the “land of the Free and the Home of the Brave” and real stright shooters when it comes to democracy around the world.

    If we got to be the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave by screwing every other nation, then you, the American citizen, and the rest of the world deserves to know this…..and hold the real guilty parties to account.

    I say, “dump whatever you have Edward Snowden” and let the chips fall where they may…….Here in America, we know what kind of government we have lived under for the past 6 years, and it’s been real nasty…now it’s time that the rest of the world to know.

  31. RMinNC,
    Good analysis about Edward Snowden. Imo, perhaps it could be argued that he should have proceeded in a different way, but when it comes to the NSA whistleblowers who HAVE gone through the official “process”, their lives have been ruined as far as livelihood expectations, etc. They have been treated as scum by the government, and I don’t believe any of them revealed the extensive info that Snowden is said to have. Really, what else could he have done than what he did? We are, in effect, living under an Obama-Holder dictatorship, and they don’t play nice, as we know.

    He’s in Russia today because of, perhaps, a miscalculation as to how he was going to leave Hong Kong, but this is like a game of chess. A player bases his moves on those of his opponent. It is NOT a science. It has been reported that the information he has deposited with reporter Greenwald (and another one, too) would not put in jeopardy directly anyone who has worked undercover for the U.S., as did Assange with Wikileaks. Time will tell.

    Actions and decisions have consequences, and if the NSA has gone rogue with its power, which it has, then those affected have a right to know, whether at home or abroad. This has gone way beyond the normal standards of spying. Just my thoughts.

  32. Has anyone else received a petition from Rand Paul, National Right to Work Committee?

    Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, Barack Obama and the Big Labor losses are about to go ballistic.

    You see, the National Right to Work Act (S.204/H.R. 946) has been introduced to repeal forever Big labor’s power to force workers to pay union dues in order to work. And they want to do it as quietly as possible.

  33. RMinNC,

    I agree with your comments pertaining to Snowdens rights, to an extent. I am definitely not saying the State Dept. is correct. But I do agree with the notion that not everything can be one sided. We learned this through the IRS testimony whereby Lois Lerner took the Fifth, while at the same time only wanting her side of the story told. I don’t believe is such process. Not saying that you do my friend, rather expressing my own belief in judicial process.


    What if this whole thing with Edward Snowden and his vast knowledge of American secrets is nothing but a grand-standing show?…

    What if Snowden is nothing but an assigned messenger to carry information from Obama to China then on to Putin?

    What if this was a planned operation all along?

    President Franklin D. Roosevelt, sixteen years in office, once said, “Nothing happens in government that isn’t planned”…I tend to agreed with this assessment..

    Was Snowden sent to China…then on to Russia, to rely information that Obama could not openly share with these Communist countries? That is a very good question that deserves further investigation. There is a strong possibility this could be the fact.

    Can anyone remember when Obama was caught on an OPEN microphone right before that 2008 election telling the Prime Minister of Russia this, “Tell Vladimer (Putin) that after the election, I will have more flexibility”.

    Now just what in the hell does that statement mean? Did it mean after the election of 2008 that he (Obama) will have more of an opportunity to help Russia and China dismantle this country? If it did, then Obama must have a way and means to get America’s secrets to these countries WITHOUT undue finger pointing toward him. What better way to do this than have an assigned carrier of that information.

    There are some very serious questions which have not been addressed in this Snowden Affair….other than the State Department pitching a “hissy fit” over his absence and demanding that whatever county that has him…must return him immediately for trial.

    1 ) First, I would like to ask, how does a person walk out of a HIGH SECURITY, 24 HOUR ARMED GUARDED facility with supposedly 4 laptop computers full of critical ULTRA TOP SECRET information vital to the security of this country…. without anyone raising an eyebrow, or attempting to stop him? This is the first FALSE FLAG to take into consideration.

    2) How does someone rob a HIGH SECURITY facility of their national secrets and board a plane heading for Hong Kong without anyone asking why he has FOUR laptop computers and exactly what is on them.. Snowden’s name should have IMMEDIATELY been spread all over the TSA’s rapid response system of identifying people who are on a “no-fly'” list within minutes of this TOP SECRET robbery. But it wasn’t. In fact, no mention was made of this fact until Snowden ARRIVED in communist China (Hong Kong) and became an overnight celebrity…although at that time, he had not dumped anything …This was the second FALSE FLAG.

    3) When America finally decided they wanted Snowden back to answer for his “crimes”…they presented Hong Kong with an extradition request…USING THE WRONG NAME for the individual….lots of luck in getting him back that way. Now, I would like for someone to explain to me exactly how they could have gotten his name wrong. That is, If he had worked for this TOP SECRET facility in the first place, and had access to this TOP SECRET information that was vital to the security of our nation. That would have been an impossibility…or some real dumb people who were in charge and running this TOP SECRET facility to begin with.

    The bottom line on this “Snowden Affair” is that something is terribly wrong with this entire situation. There are just too many loose ends… either way you cut the pie.

    If Snowden did in fact take vital national secrets and managed to escape so easily with them….then this shows there are HUGE gaps in our ability to protect our national secrets…and they better start checking the janitors very closely.

    Or, if Snowden was a messenger sent on a mission to deliver information that this government could not openly give the foreign countries of China and Russia….then we have an open and shut case of TREASON….

    This can’t be both ways….either way it looks very bad for our government. But it looks a hell of a lot worse for Edward Snowden…

    Whatever the case, this man will NEVER see the shores of America again…I will lay ten to one odds on that.

    If Snowden is finally deported from the country he ends up in, I can assure you his plane will have engine trouble and never land in America…..

    The last thing Obama and this administration wants, or needs is for this man to honestly tell the truth about this whole spying affair.

    Now you have both sides of the coin…you decide….
    “One Man’s Hero is Another Man’s Traitor”

  35. WILLIAM and CABBYAZ….good comments from you both…..

  36. I wish Al Sharpton, or Jessee Jackson, or Barack Obama, or Rachel Meadows, or Chris Matthews, or Wolfe Blitzer, or any of the other “race baiters” would please explain this senseless, savage, brutal murder by two black youths of a 13 month old baby to me….have we gone this far in America? If so, we are at the point of no return.

    I’m waiting patiently……but I hear nothing but the roaring silence from the main stream media and all of the white hating race baiters.

  37. oldsailor 81


  38. Oldsailor81…. thanls

    Thats a pretty good description of the two BABY murders…the best I have heard so far….
    lets see how the race baiters handle this situation..

  39. oldsailor 81

    RMINNC……….Another thing that is now very clear……the SLIME black punks are not going to back down until every perpetrator is shot dead. It is people like SHOVEL FACE SHARPEY,and JACK- OFF Jackson who are stirring their own stinking pot of feces,and are intending to ram it down eveyyone’s throat who happens to disagree with them. I personally predict that one or both will eventually be recipients of lethal dispatch,along with ALL of the rest of the moronic punks. ignorant “CRACKA BABY murderers

  40. oldsailor 81

    ………another thing that is now very clear,is the fact that the black SLIME are not going to back down until they have started a race war in America. Strangely the blacks think that they outnumber the whites in America. That fact alone states clearly how damn stupid their alleged leaders are. When they start a race war it will mostlikel;y be the whites who fdinish it, and there will be a HORRIFIC loss of life on both sides.

  41. oldsailor 81

    ……..and if the black slime are successful in STRATING a RACE war, there will be NO LAW in the country simply because the war will TOTALLY involve the ENTIRE POPULATION,as well as the people who were given jobs as law enforcement officers. They will be too busy protecting their own families to allow themselves to protect the lives of others. You will NOT be able to depend upon law enforcement. When the race war begins EVERYBODY will BE on his/HER OWN with regard to protecting themse;lves and their families. Even the Army will become so divided that it will no longer be an effective fighting force. If this occurs there will be NO FOOD,water,or medicine because all of the companies and producers will be busy defending themselves,and their property.


    “Cowardice asks the question:… is it safe?
    Expediency asks the question:… is it politic?
    Vanity asks the question:… is it popular?
    But conscience asks the question:… is it right?
    And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular- but one must take it simply because it is right”.
    ~Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

  43. oldsailor 81

    ……nor will any declaration of MARTIAL LAW be effective. Such a declaration will mean nothing,and will be unheeded. The war will continue until one side or the other is TOTALLY DEFEATED,and for the most part ….DEAD. Only then will there be fertile ground for a sensible restoration of law,and enforcement. Again this will only happen when both sides have sufferred unimaginable,and extremely tragic human losses. Jusat because of the PUNKS of HUMANKIND, whose minds are so twisted,and perverted that they can no longer even function at human level.

  44. oldsailor 81

    I have always admired the courage that Martin Luther King displayed during his epic quest for PEACE and equality. Unfortunately there was NOT ENOUGH Luther Kings. In principle he was right. Unfortunately there were far too many PLAIN STUPID PEOPLE, FAR TOO MANY NUMBSKULLS, FAR TOO MANY PERPETRATORS,FAR TOO MANY ONE WAY POLITICIANS, FAR TOO MANY, HARD HEADS, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST FAR TOO MANY HIPPOCRITS WHO SAY ONE THING AND DO ANOTHER.

  45. oldsailor 81


  46. oldsailor 81

    My last comment is really screwed up. I tried to insert an afterthought below the visible area. You will need to reread it once or twice and put the sentence which is out of place …in the correct place. I am hanging it up for today because todays news has been even worse than yesterday’s. I feel like my head is about to explode. Have a great day…..if a great day is any longer attainable!

  47. oldsailor 81

    Back for just a moment………if you want to see and hear a classic case of plain stupidity go to the and click on the Gretta Van Sustern, and Mssssssssssssssssssssss. Rand conversation. I would bet that MssssssssssssssssssRand has a BLACK lover,and she absolutely LOVES EVERY INCH SHE GETS FROM HIM.

  48. oldsailor 81

    BTW……….I read an article posted on another blog that was allegedly posted by a PRE MED student. He says that syphylis has become extremely widespread in the BLACK community. He states there are thousands of blacks in the US who don’t even know that they are infected. Even the efforts of hundreds of County Boards of Health are inneffective in finding all of the potentially infected people.

  49. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    How ironic is it that MLK is being USED by the black community, with the knowlege and encouragment of MLK’s family, and being made in to something he was NOT?

    Can you say “rewrite history”

    sure you can.

  50. oldsailor 81



    Their objective is to keep the blacks down on the plantation.

  52. Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    What is it that Snowden has released?

    And I agree with RMinNC,

    Why should we be embarassed for it to be known who we are spying on and for what reasons?

    IF we are doing something unscrupulous, then I’m going to have a problem with that, I know most of you here believe otherwise, but I believe that our “gathering” techniques cause us more harm than good in the world’s eyes.

    We should keep our nose out of other’s Country’s problems, and too often we stick our nose in even when we’re not wanted.

  53. Interested Bystander

    I’d also like to opine that I believe CNN and HLN are COMPLICENT in the stirring up of trouble when it comes to Zimmerman.

    I was probably a week off on my predictions, because I believe things are going to get worse before they get better, and Sharpton called for protests Saturday.

    I know there have been problems, I just think that it is percolating.

    Who’s the guy who says he wants to send Jeantel to college?

    She is 20 years old and hasn’t graduated High School yet (or maybe she just did, not sure).

    I’m thinking she’s going to have a “little” trouble with the SAT, or maybe she’ll go to community college, or better yet, how about a vocational school, so she can learn a trade?

    I predict within 2 years Jeantel will be arrested and sent to jail.

    Prove me wrong Miss Jeantel.

    There I go profiling again.

  54. Now that you have mentioned it IB……let me say;

    Jeantel said she has a 3.0 grade point average…yet whomever said they would send her to college said they would pay for her tutoring etc, that she would need before college…..

    Now my question is: if she has a 3.0 GPA in whatever grade she is in now from her talking, I would say about the 4th grade)…..why would she need tutoring for anything?

    This is just some more left wing liberal bullsh*t stuff that is thrown out there for the ignorant masses to chew on….

    Personally I think Jeantel is dumber than a bag of rocks…and I think her actions, statements and conversations prove that point.

    It’s just like old Forest said, “Stupid is as stupid does”. and :..”Life is like a box of chocolates”….etc

  55. July 17, 2013

    “LATEST – on Birth Certificate Fraud! ZULLO: Weapon of Mass Deception!”

  56. Interested Bystander

    A little something to think about:

  57. Just tried twice to post a link to ORYR with videos of the three men who reported on Obama’s Manchurian Presidency in Advance and got the response here of “Sorry your last comment cannot be posted”. Why would that be? Never happened before.

  58. oldsailor 81

    In all probability it is because there is a Mssssssssssssssssss.Important monitoring the comments,and if a comment doesn’t smell like tuna she presses the “DUMP” button.

  59. I’ll try.
    July 17, 2013

    “Video: Three Men Told Of Obama’s Manchurian Presidency In Advance; Birther Obama”

  60. oldsailor 81

    Gretta Van Susteren tears Mssssssssssssssssss. Jasmine Rand a new anus. Msssssssssssssssssssss.Rand fancies herself a “SOCIAL ENGINEER”. In reality she is little more than a SNOTNOSED WORDSMITH who couldn’t engineer her way out of a WET PAPER BAG. She talks like a total moron. Guess what…….she IS a MORON. Why she is the Martin family lawyer tells me that they have some real horses asses for attorneys. She is allegedly a CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY! HAR HAR DE HAR HAR

  61. July 17, 2013


    “Requiem for Antonio Santiago”

    “Back in March, we published a post about little Antonio Santiago, an apparently “white hispanic” INFANT who was brutally murdered in cold blood, as he sat in his stroller.

    Little Antonio was ruthlessly shot in the face, allegedly by two black teenagers, who will stand trial next month:”

    [go to link]


  63. “People Petition to Confiscate Guns From Tea Party Supporters and Repeal the Second Amendment”

    Published on April 8, 2013

    “Selling 1 Oz Gold Coin for $25 (when it’s worth over $1,500)”

    Published on May 29, 2012

  64. GORDO…….thanks for the post…it brought back some memories


    The American citizen is plain dumb stupid……not only that but they are leary of anything or anyone that offers them a deal of a lifetime…..

    This brings to my mind a story concerning a Rolex watch I bought in Amsterdam, Holland in 1970….the druggie who sold it to me for 20 bucks said it was a real Rolex and he needed the money for a fix.He was honest, and I felt sorry for the guy…my wife said it fake and worthless…..I gave the man 20 bucks for the pretty watch and guess what….

    IT WAS A REAL ROLEX WATCH WORTH OVER 1700 DOLLARS….. which I had checked out once I got back home to the states……

    Bottom line: Never turn your back on a gift horse who is staring you in the face……

    I only wish I had been walking on that street the day that guy was trying to give away that GOLD coin.

    Let’s see someone top this one !

    A guy is driving around the back woods of Montana one day and he sees a sign in front of a broken down shanty-style house: ‘TALKING DOG FOR SALE ‘ He rings the door bell and the owner appears and tells him the dog is in the backyard.

    The guy walks around to the backyard and sees a nice looking tan colored Labrador retriever sitting there. He walks up to the dog and says;

    ‘You talk?’ he asks.

    ‘Yep,’ the Lab replies.

    After the guy recovers from the initial shock of hearing a dog speak in English, he says to the dog, ‘So, what’s your story?’

    The Lab looks up and says, ‘Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was a pretty young pup. After growing up, I decided that I wanted to help our government, so… I told the CIA.

    In no time at all they had me jetting around from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping on their conversations for the CIA.

    It wasn’t long before I became the most valuable spying assets they had for eight years running…

    But the jetting around crossing the international date line every other day really tired me out, and I knew I wasn’t getting any younger so I decided to settle down and I quite the CIA..

    Then I signed up with the TSA for a job at JFK airport in New York City to do some undercover security, wandering near and around some suspicious characters and listen in on their conversations.

    I uncovered some pretty incredible dealings and was awarded a batch of medals.. I even hought once about writing a book about my life, but gave it up because I didn’t want the hassle of dealing with the celebrity status.

    ‘Then I decided to settle down. I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I’m just plain retired.’ That’s my story in a nutshell.

    The guy was amazed. With his jaw wide open, he goes back to the front of the house and asks the owner how much he wants for the dog.

    ‘Ten dollars,’ the guy says.

    ‘Ten dollars? This dog is amazing and has a hell of a story to tell! Why on earth are you selling him so cheap?’

    ‘Because he’s a Bullsh*tter…. He’s never been out of the back yard’
    Is it possible this dog is related to our current pResident?

  66. More IRS congressional hearings….Supposed to be explosive. 11 AM EST

  67. Larry Elder really laid into Piers Morgan last night – it was great! You have to see this exchange!

  68. oldsailor 81

    If MUSLIMS can have sex with their nanny goats then whatis to stop some other sicko from having sex with a BITCH.

  69. As suspected…..keep quiet or else.

    Congressman: Obama Admin Forced Benghazi Survivors To Sign Non-Disclosure Agreements…


    Via Weekly Standard:

    . . . “On Tuesday I raised the question of why none of the Benghazi survivors, whether State Department, CIA, or private security contract employees have testified publicly before Congress,” said Wolf.

    “According to trusted sources that have contacted my office, many if not all of the survivors of the Benghazi attacks along with others at the Department of Defense, the CIA have been asked or directed to sign additional non-disclosure agreements about their involvement in the Benghazi attacks. Some of these new NDAs, as they call them, I have been told were signed as recently as this summer.”

  70. Purple Lips is on selling his trash! Watch …he has already taken his fingers to his nose three times. I heard that is a sign of Coke,etc.

  71. BARBARA….thanks for the video at 10:56am

    It is refreshing to hear Larry Elder have Peirs Morgan for Lunch….
    With Morgan trying to argue with Elders is like sticking your head into a band saw and hoping you don’t get your head cut off…..

    I just loved he look on Peirs Morgans face when he got shot out of the saddle…it looks to me like Morgan would eventually GET SMART some day and not invite trouble as he always does…..

    But like that wise young man, Forest said in the movie….”Stupid is as stupid does”…….

    Piers Morgan is just about as stupid as Rachel Jeantel…No…I’m sorry, I take that back….Piers Morgan is MORE stupid than Rachel Jeantel !

    Larry Elders can sure call it like it is…I like that man.

  72. RMinNC,

    I’ll try to top the joke 🙂

    While suturing a cut on the hand of a 70 year old , who’s hand was caught in the gate , the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually, the topic got around to Obama and his role as our president.

    Jack said, “Well, ya know, Obama is a POST TURTLE ”.

    Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him, what a ‘post turtle’ was.

    Jack said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.

    Jack saw the puzzled look on the doctor’s face so he continued to explain.

    “You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, he’s elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just wonder what kind of dummy put him up there to begin with.”

  73. Good jokes, RM and William!

    Isn’t it getting tiresome to hear all of the complaining and belly-aching by some of the blacks? All I can say is, “Grow up and get over it, for pity sakes! How long are you going to stay stuck in the past?”

    Yes, our country did do wrong by embracing black slavery in the beginning but did the right thing in abolishing it. Furthermore, although there is still some discrimination in certain quarters (not just against blacks but also other minorities), what other race has received as many benefits as the Afro-American since enactment of the Civil Rights Act?

    We all know that the Dems need them to be dependent upon government in order to get votes, thus keeping them “down on the plantation” if possible. Now we see them being used by this administration to foment racial tension and division.

    Lately I heard someone on TV refer to Eric Holder as “political” as you can get, and this is totally wrong for the top law officer in the land to be such.
    I would also add that he is not only a politico but a rabid ideologue as well.
    No wonder U.S. justice is being perverted. He needs to GO.

  74. That’s good WILLIAM…yes that’s good….but I still think my talking dog takes first place……

    Your Turtle is just too damn slow…lol

  75. Thanks for the compliment Cabbyaz…..wouldn’t you like to be the Obama dog, BO sitting in Obama’s bed room, or Reggie’s bedroom would be better, at night…..

    I bet old BO has some very interesting stories to tell…much better than the NSA.

  76. oldsailor 81

    Ginger……………It could easily be such an indication, but it could also be a PESKY FLY again. Remember he DRAWS FLIES,DOGGY KNATS,and IMBECILES.

  77. oldsailor 81

    ……..I recently read that a WH houskeeper had made a public statement that the Soetoro bedroom smelled like a garbage dump. When the houskeeper looked under the bed they found that it was littered with empty POPEYE’S food containers.chicken bones, and other miscellaneous garbage. I guess if you look like a pig, it is probable that you live like one also. This along with poor personal cleanliness,is probably contributory to flies and other insects circling around Soetoro’s head. The flies know that there is FECES inside of Soetoro’s head.

  78. Cabby: Lately I heard someone on TV refer to Eric Holder as “political” as you can get, and this is totally wrong for the top law officer in the land to be such.
    I heard Kimberly Guilfoyle, the former prosecutor, on The Five yesterday say as much…..also calling the DOJ the Dept. of Injustice…..deciding what laws to enforce and what groups to enforce them upon!

  79. Good portion….testimony going on now from Mr. George:

  80. bob strauss

    BOOM! Rep. Issa Has Information That Will Link IRS Scandal Up Into the White House

    To be released today! Issa says he has information that will link Obama to the IRS scandal.


    We need to begin accepting the fact that there is an underclass of people in America who are racist, criminal, use more than they produce, feed at the public trough, produce fatherless children, see themselves always as the victims, use dangerous drugs, promote dangerous drugs and prostitution, whose speech is full of vulgarities and reeks of ignorance,dress like idiots, and hate white Americans….did I leave anything out?

    Gee, now who could that class of people be? Do we have a name for them? Or is that name unspeakable? Would it be racist for me to name them?

    A quote from a noted Psychology Professor; “People are not who you think they are…. People are not who they think they are”.

    People are what they do.

    That is why it is called the “behavioral science”. Forget the labels. They are all misleading. Pay attention to the behavior, not the color of their skin.

    When we reach a point in America that we can identify and intelligently talk about this criminal element without the fear of them burning down our homes, or killing our babies, or marching and destroying just for the hell of it… and discuss this lawlessness across the color lines….then America will be truly free from racism….

    Until this happens, the Al Sharpton’s and Jessee Jackson’s will feed off the ignorance of those that need help the most….the ignorant and misguided, and the class of people I have just described.

    It is what it is folks……
    You can’t take a cream puff and make it into an apple pie overnight..

  82. bob strauss
  83. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Just in –

    “Detroit files for bankruptcy protection”

    “The bankruptcy filing makes Detroit the largest city in U.S. history to do so.”

  84. Lately I have been wondering how Al Sharpton has gone from being the healthy robust, rolly- polly man to what he is today……a dried up skinny, small bag of bones….He looks like “death warmed over”.

    His cheek bones stick out and his head is much bigger than his body…..I was thinking he had some kind of terrible incurable illness…like maybe AIDS, or cancer, or even a brain tumor……

    But good news folks…it wasn’t any of those…I have just discovered little Albert’s problem……now if he keeps this problem around very long, I do not expect him to ring the bells of Christmas morn…but we will see … is his Albert’s problem in a nutshell:

    Big Al Sharpton has a new, decades-younger, attractive main squeeze,
    .After Sharpton became an NSNBC celebrity and divorced his wife of many years, every body wanted a piece of him. Big Al wanted to accommodate as many as he could. He really is a friendly fellow.

    The civil rights activist and MSNBC star, who is 58 years old, is dating 35-year-old Aisha McShaw, a Westchester “personal stylist” who has been seen on Sharpton’s arm at several recent black-tie affairs, including the White House Correspondents Dinner in April and President Obama’s holiday party in December.

    When she arrived in a form-fitting black and white dress hanging on the arm of the sharp-suited skinny Sharpton at the New York County Democratic Committee Award Ceremony on Monday night, the Daily News asked her to define her relationship with the civil rights powerhouse.

    “I’m his girlfriend,” McShaw said before Sharpton could intervene and shepherd her away from the inquestative reporter.

    Awwww….. love in the Springtime…isn’t it great Albert?

    Personally Al,… I think you may have “bite off more than you are able to chew !” after see a picture of your new squeeze..

    .I hope you are the only one with the key to her chastity belt, otherwise, you will be having a lot of sleepless nights ahead of you…

    Al, would you please tell us what a “personal stylist” is? That really caught my attention. I guess that means she gets paid big bucks (by you) for playing with your fake wig every night….correct me if I’m wrong.

  85. Hi folks,

    I recently received a packet from the Census Bureau telling me it is the law that I must respond to their survey or someone will come to my door and I will be fined. They want all this personal information and the form is pages long. They say it takes 40 minutes to fill out. I have never seen anything like this. “Your response to this survey is required by US law,” it says. Has anyone else received such a thing?

  86. bob strauss

    According to Arabic News Channel TV14 and reported on by Egypt Daily News, Obama’s relationship with recently deposed Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Morsi goes far deeper than mere support as a democratically elected President.

    Per TV14, Obama conducted secret negotiations with Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood outside of normal diplomatic channels.

    According to sources cited by TV14, Obama secretly transferred eight billion dollars to the Muslim Brotherhood—not the Egyptian government—as payment to guarantee that a large portion of the Sinai Peninsula be turned over to the terrorist organization Hamas, an avowed enemy of both the United States and Israel.

    The secret agreement was signed by deposed Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi and his second in command, Khairat el Shater.

    Who on the U.S. side signed the agreement and where Barack Obama got the eight billion dollars is not clear. When Mohammed Morsi was deposed and arrested by the Egyptian military, evidence of the secret agreement was discovered and seized.

    Further, per the news segment, which has been uploaded to YouTube and has since gone viral, secret negotiations between Obama and the Egyptian military—specifically Colonel Abdul al-Sisi, head of the Armed Forces—were ongoing to ensure the agreement remained hidden. Per the secret negotiations, in exchange for Obama recognizing the Egyptian military as legitimate, Colonel al-Sisi promised to keep Obama’s illegal agreement with the Muslim Brotherhood secret. However, a source within the Egyptian military leaked Obama’s nefarious activities to TV14 and the world.

    If Obama’s secret agreement with the Muslim Brotherhood is proven correct, it may spell the end for the Obama administration once and for all. Obama may have illegally siphoned off funds from the US Treasury and committed treason by attempting to turn land over to Hamas, a group that is not only an enemy to the United States, but has vowed to destroy every Jew on the face of the earth. If Obama’s nefarious plan would have been realized, Hamas’ control of the Sinai Peninsula would have put Israel in an indefensible position and would have led to a second holocaust.

    If proven to be true, this would go far beyond the Constitution’s requirement of High Crimes and Misdemeanors as a basis for impeachment. It would mean treason, possible life in prison, or even the death penalty for Barack Hussein Obama.


    Below is the link and a portion of the text from the EMERGENCY BANKING ACT OF 1933 WHICH CREATED OUR NEW GOVERNMENT

    “…The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist Order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of Governor of the International Monetary Fund Public Law 94-564, page 8 Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: “The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States…”


  88. Dean M. At the time of the census an acquaintance was attending a class I was in, a quite well to do widow. She received that long form to complete and she refused to do so. She was told a sampling was being done in her area (Squaw Valley, Ca…a wide spot on the road). She was constantly harangued and threatened for up to six months to complete the form. The form wanted to know really personal, intrusive information, like if she was pregnant when she married, all the money in her various bank accounts, etc. She eventually gave in because of threats of arrest, and agreed to give the information by telephone as she didn’t want to commit it to paper. A rep. was on the phone for 2 hours taking the information down. Following the disclosure, she then got 2 or more calls per day from various scam artists (some from Nicaragua, some “you have won the Canadian lottery, etc.), the police have been informed but were unable to stop the calls and for business reasons she couldn’t change her number. She believes her sizeable bank account information was leaked to these scam artists. Haven’t seen her for some time so don’t know if the scams are continuing. I would complaint to my Congressman if it were me and see what could be done to avoid completing the documents.

  89. Dean M,

    Toss it! If they contact you, say “What census?”

  90. Or……… could say “Doesn’t the NSA and the IRS already have all this information? Ask them! They know every where I go, who I speak to, every transaction I make, my political affiliation, my religious beliefs, where I live,
    etc.,,,what more do you want?”

  91. Exclusive: The Post & Email’s Interview with Man
    Who Claims the Obama Regime Imprisoned Him for a Year


    By Sharon Rondeau | The Post & Email
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  92. Loss of depth perception can be sign of neurological disorder. Recall some months ago when Soetoro shot 23 times on his home court and missed 21 of them badly. Early in is Presidency he was knocking down one three point shot after another. I have played basketball since 1962, including a year at Louisville, and understand the importance of depth perception to making a basket. He has lost it and rarely plays the game anymore. There is something going on in his brain which may eventually become known to us. It cannot be good for his prognosis.

  93. oldsailor 81

    That thought has also crossed my mind. In addition to this it would seem that if his depth perception is compromised,the same underlying problem could be what is effecting his overall judgement ability…….DETERIORATING MENTAL FUNCTION………sUCH A DETERIORATION CAN BE THE GROSS RESULT OF A NUMBER OF MENTAL PROBLEMS,AS WELL AS A RESULT OF THE LATE STAGES OF AN STD. GIVEN HIS PROPENSITY FOR DEVIATE SEXZUAL ACTIVITY,SUCH AN INFECTION COULD EASILY HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED LONG AGO.

  94. oldsailor 81

    …….According to several of Americas top medical entities STD is near the top of the list in the black communities,as one of the most prevelant illnesses. HIV infection is also still present in the black community…….and in spite of recent gains in fighting the effects of AIDS it is still almost of epidemic proportions in some black countries. There has been a lot of speculation that Nelson Mandella is suffering from aids.

  95. oldsailor 81

    If Soetoro is suffering from AIDS it must be known to the medical personell who care for the POTUS. If that is the case then it is being concealed from becoming public information. There have already been several incidents occur that seem to suggest the presence of such an illness. When you watch Soetoro closely it is clear that his gait and general body language are suggesting some sort of illness MIGHT exist inside of him.

  96. citizenwells

    Dean M.
    I know someone in NC who received a similar notice from the Census Bureau.

  97. Philo-Publius

    When the Census Clowns Come Knocking, Remind Them the U.S. Constitution Enumerates Exactly What You Need to Answer; and Nothing More

  98. Dean M.
    Last year I received something similar. The questions were very intrusive.

    For example…..How many bathrooms in our home, What insurances we had, the value of our property, what are utility bills were, where there any handicapped people living in our home, did we have any retirement income, etc., etc. The only thing I answered was how many people resided at our address, their names and our home telephone number. I sent it in and was never bothered again.

  99. Sorry for the bad grammar. I lose the ability to see my posting screen.


    How It All Went Wrong…A Blueprint for Disaster

    Is this what’s Coming to America? Lord help us if it is.

    Detroit Today,… almost 30% of Detroit’s 140 square miles are either vacant, burned down, or deserted. Detroit used to be the fourth-largest city in the US, with a population of nearly 2 million people. Today, Detroit has less than 700,000 residents. There are more than 33,500 vacant houses and over 90,000 vacant lots in Detroit. The city government is razing entire city blocks of business buildings and residential homes. If you are the only one left on your block,… you are forced to move and if you are lucky you will receive $10,000 for your home.

    The median price of a home in Detroit is only $9,000! In some areas in Detroit, you can buy a house for just $100. if your brave enough to live in it. There are approximately 85,000 streetlights in Detroit, but copper thieves have stripped so much wiring out that many of the lights are not working. The Mayor of Detroit previously announced that he will reduce the number of streetlights to almost half the existing total down to 46,000.

    Today, sixty percent of Detroit’s children live in poverty, when less than 45 years ago, Detroit boasted the highest per capita income in the United States. Today,

    Detroit does not have one chain supermarket left in the city

    Detroit has one of the highest murder rates in the country. Its infrastructure has been gutted and robbed. Real unemployment may be as high 20% in some parts of the city.

    This is a real bad city to not be able to find a cop and with the new cutbacks, it is really hard to find a cop because most police stations in Detroit now only open to the public for 8 hours per day. So, if you have to defend yourself, you better be prepared to get through the night on your own.

    You can call the police on your Obama phone, however, you better only call between 8am and 5pm. Just how dangerous is it?

    JUSTIFIABLE homicide in Detroit rose by an amazing 79% during 2011.

    The next post will detail exactly how Detroit died…….and it could be coming to your city soon if we continue to snooze….

  101. Are they trying to protect the usurper?

    – Senate Bill: Forging Two Passports Not a Crime
    – McCain: I Don’t Know How Many Passports We’ll Let You Forge

  102. Perfect example of why democrats can’t be trusted, to be in charge of anything to do with money.


  103. CW, You were right, the jobs numbers are BS.

    Ex-Bureau of Labor Statistics Head: Jobs Number is B.S.

  104. Has anyone noticed that WHITE/BLACK Soetoro has not been seen making a ‘photo opt’ signing bills? Is he (?) using the ‘AUTO-PIN?’ Or have I missed them? Maybe Lame Cherry was right saying the real Soetoro was on ice in the basement. 🙂 All of a sudden Moose is lovey- dovey with Soetoro which before was always a fake kiss. 🙂

    I wish when they use that spray gun to cover his blemishes they would spray his big ears too. His face looks tanned while his big ears are white.



    Who killed Cock Robin?, “I said the sparrow, with my little bow and arrow,
    I killed Cock Robin,”
    Who saw him die? “I, said the fly, with my little eye, I saw him die.”
    Who caught his blood? “I, said the fish, with my little dish,
    I caught his blood.”
    Who’ll make his shroud? “I, said the beetle, with my thread and needle.
    I’ll make his shroud.”
    Who’ll carry the torch? “I, said the linnet, I’ll come in a minute,
    I’ll carry the torch.”
    Who’ll be the clerk? “I, said the lark, If it’s not in the dark,
    I’ll be the clerk.”
    Who’ll dig his grave? “I, said the owl, with my spade and trowel,
    I’ll dig his grave.”
    Who’ll be the parson? “I, said the rook, with my little book,
    I’ll be the parson.”
    Who’ll be chief mourner? I, said the dove, I’ll mourn for my love,
    I’ll be chief mourner.”
    Who’ll sing a psalm? ” I, said the thrush, as I sit in a bush,
    I’ll sing a psalm.”
    Who’ll carry the coffin? “I, said the kite, If it’s not in the night,
    I’ll carry the coffin.”
    Who’ll toll the bell? “I, said the bull, because I can pull,
    I’ll toll the bell.”
    All the birds of the air, fell sighing and sobbing,…

    When they heard the bell toll…For poor Cock Robin.

    Now Just how does this nursery fable relate to Detroit? Well there were many who were responsible for the death of Detroit just as there were responsible for the death Cock Robin…….and there will be many who will morn and offer their help…

    The New World Order killed Detroit…but it will be America who buries her.

    The globalists murdered Detroit through their various free trade agreements. Through NAFTA, GATT, and CAFTA, the American auto manufacturing business was free to ship their factories overseas in search of near slave labor markets.

    The passage of these free trade agreements made it possible to hire foreign slave laborers and without the now prohibited tariffs on imports, the globalist controlled corporations could then ship slave labor manufactured products back into the United States. Our government failed to protect homegrown manufacturers and the net effect is that we are beginning to see third world conditions inside of the United States in cities such as Detroit and it is spreading like wildfire.

    Since the 1970′s, America has lost 86% of its manufacturing jobs. Actually, the Globalists have been trying to get rid of American tariffs for 100 years in the name of free trade. Look up the Payne-Aldrich Tariff, it is part of our history. A year later following this Act, , we got the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and then real fun began in earnest. I would refresh your memory and say that Senator Aldrich was also a big mover and shaker of the Federal Reserve Act that has destroyed the stability of this country.

    Tariffs were used to pay our national debt. This is no longer the case, we replaced tariffs with the Income Tax Amendment.

    If you are reading this historical facts for the first time, you have to be getting angry. And who could blame you for getting angry? You and I should not be paying income tax, tariffs should be paying for the national debt. In fact, there should be national debt.

    We are paying income tax because the globalists wanted free trade and it is our “duty to pay” so they can maximize their profits. The third leg of this scheme was to introduce fiat currency where bankers could invent money out of thin air which caused our money to now be worth less than 4 cents for what used to be a dollar. That should make you feel good this morning.

    Now, back to Detroit… which helps us understand where we are heading.

    You may not live in an area of the country in which the jobs are headed overseas. However, you have been targeted for de-industrialization through Obama’s “Cap and Trade” policies which he has declared he will initiate through Executive Order as this president continues to carry out his Agenda 21 goals.

    If the citizens ever let Agenda 21 get a grip on their city, the result will be like Detroit… and will result in abject poverty as a result of green zones, Wildlands, promises of Smart Growth, saving the planet from global warming and economic growth inhibitors, etc.

    By the way, adding insult to injury…the globalists had the guts to build a $25 million dollar light rail system in Detroit, right in the middle of this stinking, rotting corpse.

    Remain tuned for what happens to a city when it goes bellly-up….

  106. oldsailor 81

    The alleged notices that are being received by people from the Census Bureau are of questionable legality. I personally believe that the Census Bureau does NOT operate in such a manner,and that the alleged form is really a scam, perpetrated by certain criminal element within the US and even some outside of the US. I continually receive special contact from a UK Lawyer,who allegedly is trying to pass along a sizeable inheritance to me………..It is total BULLSHI#, and I strongly suggest that the Census forms are exactly the same crap. If you want to know the truth simply go online and contact the Census Bureau,and lay it out before them.I am sure that they would be able to confirm any special necessity where you are concerned. If they say NO then it is reasonable to conclude that the forms are part of a SCAM to obtain personal information NNo US citizen is under any legal compliance law s to wit wherein they MUST pass along ALL personal information. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RESPOND TO SUCH A DEMAND.


    Well the answer to that question is simple….the bankers take control of everything.

    When a political entity defaults on its loan obligations, the lending agency takes possession of the collateral which was pledged to cover those loans. Most often, the infrastructure of the public agency is the collateral most sought after by the banks.

    When the banks typically take control over a political city or nations like they did in Bolivia, they will quadruple the cost of water, astronomically hike the price of utilities, and seize control of public transportation in order to jack up the rates to its ridership (i.e. poor people who cannot afford a car and need public transportation to get to work….if there is work).

    This will soon be Detroit’s future and it will eventually be the future of all of our America’s cities …..Municipal bankruptcy is America’s decent into corporate controlled America…We will soon be called, “The Unites Corporation of America”..Municipal bankruptcy is the proven path to America’s decent into corporate controlled feudalism…

    Detroit is the test case.

    Detroit has failed as a viable city because of the loss of manufacturing, the strangle hold of the unions, and subsequent population flight out of the decaying city. The rest of our cities will soon experience an economic collapse, but for different reasons.

    When,… not if,… Obama ushers in his industry killing “Cap and Trade” Executive orders, every American city will effectively be de-industrialized
    as a result….. we will then have nation full of Detroit’s.

    Did you know that Obama has stated that his “Cap and Trade” plan will:
    1) Eliminate the use of of 80% of the energy that we presently use?

    2) Can you drive 80% less miles to work? On a sub-freezing day,

    3) Can you run your home thermostat 80% lower?

    4) Can you use your home lights 80% less without a major impact on your life?

    5) Can you get by using 80% less of gasoline that you presently use?

    And what business will survive these draconian caps placed upon our use of energy? And then, where will you find work? When there is no work…Who will pay for your mortgage? When there is no money……..

    A nation that does not manufacture something,… will not long survive.

    Oh by the way,….. as an after thought, does it make sense now to read about why the Federal Reserve is buying up $40 billion dollars worth of mortgage backed securities every month?

    Hmm, and some now people wonder how “the powers that be” will force the rest of us into stack and pack cities.

    America, you have just read your collective future.

    As a final note; does it now make sense to you that DHS has purchased 2.2 billion rounds of ammo and 2700 armored personnel carriers?

    The globalists forces know what is coming….and now you do too.

    It is time this country wake up and acts accordingly. You have been conquered, America,… and many of us will not survive this onslaught.

    If you doubt the words I have posted on this blog, then I invite you to do your own research and see for yourself what they have done to America in just a mere 100 years…..

    Perhaps it’s time for Mr. Obama to tell us, with honesty, exactly what his objectives are for America, or “get the hell out of the kitchen”.

  108. oldsailor 81

    I have personal friends who live in a Detroit suburb. They are now like me older and they still own property there. The demise of Detroit has been coming for several decades, thanks to the LIBERAL Democrat leadership. If you look a little closer at the entire state you will see that the state is also near bankruptcy. The MORON liberals think that by increasing their state payroll taxes,along with real property taxes that this will fix it. They have done this year after year and finally the chickens are coming home to roost. The state has lost a hell of a lot of the younger productive people who have been laid off. Detroit is now at a population level that equates with 1935.Ywet the LIBERAL MORONS can’t saeem to figure out that something is wreong. All they know how to do is SPEND,SPEND,SPEND…..other peoplees money. Well the a holes in Michigan government are now hitting the brick wall, and it is clear thhat the financial state of Michigan itself is going to continue to deteriorate as long as LIBERAL DEMOCRATS are at the helm.

  109. oldsailor 81

    Perhaps now is the best time to stock up on ANTI TANK weapons. HAR HAR

  110. oldsailor 81

    ………………anybody who wants to buy realestate at less than fair market should take the next plane to Detroit. There are THOUSANDS of boarded up homes that have been abandoned,and you could buy any of them for taxes due. But at that point you could be holding a TIGER BY THE TAIL.For Detroit to even recover from the mess which already plagues the leaders will require DECADES. When Fiat finally closes the Hamtramck plant,another 20,000 auto workers will end up on wwelfare..It is clear that the State of Michigan would be very hard pressed to pay unemployment to another 20,000 people.

  111. oldsailor 81

    ……………now is also the best time to watch the DEARBORN CLUB. Lets see how many of them are willing to spend their money to help the city recover. Just don’t hold your breath!

  112. oldsailor 81

    …………I personally expect Detroit to become a MECCA of tents and MOSQUES.,and each time there is a call to prayer,500,000 stinking asses will protrude into the air.

  113. oldsailor 81

    …….Warren Michigan has become a GHOST town. At one time it was where a very large number of specialty companies had located to be convenient to the Auto Manufacturers who they served. The old Detroit Arsenal is either ALREADY closed or soon will be. They had some of the finest testing laboratories in the WORLD. They even sported a MACH ONE wind tunnel, along with many environmental testing labs. They were a lot like Cook Electric who done a lot of envoronmental testing at Demster Chicago. They too are now gone.

  114. oldsailor 81

    Typo= DEMSTER= NO Dempster= YES

  115. OLDSAILOR81……

    You are so true, my friend….”as Detroit goes….so goes Michigan”….but you can expect them to cry Wolfe very loud …. then the federal government will come running to the rescue with just enough aid for them to keep their noses above water…..and feed the illegal Arabs there.

    Like you say….I too expect the whole state of Michigan to become the new Mecca in the West, you know, “that shining city on the hill” that Mohammed saw in all his visions , for all the Muslim imports we have here now, and those planning on coming here, and all that Obama plans to give a pass too in the future,…. they seem to gyrate to that state without a compass……… After all, that state is more attuned to the economic hardships they faced in their dear departed homelands……

    So….Welcome to America, Ahab the Arab…no sweat, in Michigan, you won’t have to speak English, or dress as Americans because …in a year or two, there won’t be any English speaking people left in that state..

  116. oldsailor 81

    typo envoronmental= NO environmental= yes

  117. oldsailor 81

    An old shipmate of mine lived in Sterling Heights, which is another suburb of Detroit. He was and still is a devoted Democrat. Guess what he done…..he sold his home in Sterling Heights, bought property in Connecticut, and moved there. Frying pan into the fire…..ohhhhhhwellllll. What does that tell you……..once a Democrat…..always a Democrat.

  118. Oldsaiolr81……

    Those democrats just never learn, do they?….lol

  119. oldsailor 81


  120. oldsailor81

    …..actually it sounds a little like a combination of a distressed dog howling,and the bleating of a billy goat over a loudspeaker……if you can imagine such a combo.

  121. Speaking of idiots from the Northeast…he is the good Senator from Vermont..speaking about passports

    Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt) admitted Wednesday that under the Senate immigration bill, forging up to two passports is not a crime, adding that the bill leaves the decision whether to charge someone with passport fraud up to the discretion of prosecutors.

    On Capitol Hill on Wednesday, asked Leahy, “One of the provisions has to do with passports, that’s an important component. Do you know how many passports someone is able to forge before it’s a crime?”

    Leahy said, “Well, it depends upon which interpretation is being used. You could have one form which is two, but then there are other criminal conduct that would be involved with that.
    I apologize for the quality voice on this video, but you can get the message:

    You have just been treated to a prime example of the United States Senate “Double Talk”.. provided to us by an expert double- speak agent of the left. Orwell would have been so proud of this wacko dude.

    I guess , if this stupidity passes and become law, then Mr. Obama can then hold a pocket full of VALID passports with the names of; Soetoro, Bonell, Dubham, Robinson, and maybe even Obama, legally imprinted on them…….and he won’t have to pay for either……. compliments of the US taxpayer.

    Michelle will probably have at least five or six phony VALID passports…..not to be outdone by the O’ Boner…..

  122. Wow! The usurper is speaking and I need a barf bag. “Me”, “I”, – I hope someone is keeping track. He is such a poor excuse – can’t do anything but ramble all over the ballpark about Martin….. He even referred to his past remark about Trayvon “could have been his son”, but THEN went further to say Trayvon could have been HE (the usurper). What narcissism.
    Full of words and says nothing. He looks and acts like he is “under the influence” of something.

  123. cABBYAZ…

    It looks like to me that he is HIGH as a kite on something…his shiftty eyes…slurs…etc…

    what a poor excuse for a president we have….more stirring the pot…more riots….thats his style…..

  124. This is Zero’s method of keeping the race rage active…..kinda giving permission for the anger to be justified and keeping the chaos/diversion/dependency going and the demands against “whitey” everlasting. If he wants to do something more for “their” boys he should start condemning the current recognized ghetto “leaders” who teach against those who try to get ahead, want an education, as “trying to be whitey”. Sad that there is no independent thinking allowed so these thugs would be recognized for what they are…failures and controlling the vulnerable so they too will be failures.

  125. Anyone notice another fly buzzing around the face?

  126. Hi, Observer,
    Good assessment! I get so livid that it is hard to even be rational. Was there a fly really? Much of the time I can hardly stand to watch him, so I didn’t notice. How can anyone stand up there pontificating without saying anything of substance the way he does? Hemming and hawing around……It is disgraceful and disgusting.



    It’s sickening what this jerk is doing to divide the people…..but that’s been part of his plan all along..

  128. oldsailor81

    Soetoro says “It could have been him” 35 years ago. Whenever I see the scarring on his head something seems to say that somebody might have tried…….35 years ago to do him in. I also noticed the presence of FLIES once again,buzzing in close proximity to Lil Barry. His continued intrusion into state business seems to confirm to me that he is a seriously demented person. All he accomplished is further division of the people of America…..which will not end well for him

  129. oldsailor81

    ……….once again flies know where feces is.

  130. FLY’s just love this guy…..their getting high from his breath…or something…there is a compelling reason flies are drawn to him….and it isn’t because he’s so charming.

    And it isn’t because he’s president…..those flies don’t give a damn about his power trip, or what color he is……they are after him for a specific reason….all the flies I know love to gather around feces or something dead (as oldsailor81 has often said)…

    Don’t you just wish you could speak the “flyieez language”…they love this guy and would have a best seller to whistleblow on…….

  131. The president’s comments also looked at the real problems of “poverty and dysfunction” in African American communities, saying that they can “be traced to a very difficult history.”

    The most current problems can be traced to the gov. paying women for having children without the fathers around to be accountable and responsible, completely destroying the family that existed decades ago. Ergo, many different “fathers” but no male role models so that the gangs become the “family” without anyone to teach discipline so that boys eventually learn self discipline. In Zero’s case his own modeling came from perverts and commies and thugs and foreign moochers and monied puppeteers….all liars and destroyers, not creators. Just as the Muzzie Bros are feeling their power oats and are beheading, burning, blowing up Christians, Zero is encouraging the similar climate here to give a wink to the wilding, flash mobs and bash mobs. The truly vulnerable, the weakest in the womb or the elderly, are getting slaughtered by this most “benevolent” puppet. If black youth and mothers can swallow this snake oil then they are doomed to horrendous education and violence continuing….and that will effect all youth and families in this country due to the diabolical immorality being encouraged. New generations of more “hooking up” and whining and entitlement expectations with the generations at war with each other everywhere but in the pockets of remaining faithful and law abiding.

  132. Dean M,

    I don’t think you are under any obligation to answer ANY questions from that so called census. The official US census is issued every 10 years according to the Constitution, the last being in 2010. And Philo-Publius linked the article which explains what questions are mandatory according to the Constitution, and which are not, and why. I don’t understand why they send these to citizens during off years. Maybe this would be helpful.

  133. “Barry Soetoro” Has Registered to Vote at White House Address

    According to a search at the D.C. Board of elections using the search terms Barry Soetoro, President Obama’s date of birth and the zip code of 20500, a registered voter of that name is registered to vote at the White House for D.C. elections. Barry Soetoro is a name that President Obama has used in the past.

    Did President Obama submit this registration, or is it a fraud? Who knows? Obtaining the actual registration forms (or on-line) submitted to the D.C. election’s board might answer the question. In my view, it is worse if it is a fraud because it illustrates the ease at which one can trick the system. Or perhaps, President Obama wants out of crime-infested Chicago after his term is up and registered using his old name. I’ll go with option 1, the fraud.

  134. Rand Paul: Obama will bail out Detroit ‘over my dead body’

    “Those who don’t have their house in order, who are teetering on disaster, will continue to make bad decisions,” he said. “You don’t set up an implicit promise from the federal government that everybody is getting bailed out.”

    Read more:

  135. If Obama wants to do something constructive….Why doesn’t he talk on national television about the 87% BLACK on BLACK murders in America….
    now that would be very constructive and helpful…..

    He could also talk about the city with the highest murder rate in America…his beloved Chicago…………but nooooo that subject is off limits.

    But don’t hold your breath waiting for one word from him on these areas of interest ….he’s too busy dividing the nation with IMAGINARY WHITE on BLACK crimes…

  136. While Obama the Fraud is inciting riots across the nation, here’s some good news……..
    Hobby Lobby wins preliminary injunction against contraception mandate

    A federal appeals court granted The Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc. a preliminary injunction against the Obamacare contraception mandate, Friday.

    The ruling prevents the government from enforcing the mandate against the Christian craft company, which has resisted the healthcare law’s requirement that companies provide employees health care plans that cover contraception on religious grounds.

    Read more:

  137. To CW,
    Issa and the House Republicans ARE getting very close to something. That is the ONLY reason that the POTUS would come on TV and add fuel to the race Baiters. They have no evidence against Zimmerman, they have an FBI investigation that says that his actions had nothing to do with race. They have an impression based upon a made up tape by NBC, that race was involved, and that it. No rational person would pursue this on a national level UNLESS they wanted to distract people from the meat of the IRS scandal coming to light, as well as the secret meetings with House leaders about the forged documents and his fraud as POTUS.

    They are playing the race card because everything else is a disaster, because they are afraid of the aftermath of breaking the law so many times. This is a palpable fear, one that is enough to put thousands of innocent lives in danger from riots and violence, to cover up their crimes. They are all in now, and all they have is the race card.

    Protect yourself and your families. Be safe out there. Expect the worse of this failed Marxist administration and it’s minions. Don’t provoke Marshal law. These are the darkest times, but the dawn may be very close.


  138. oldsailor81

    Flies flying arounLil Barry’s head could have been just a fluke the last time. But when we see this TWICE it tells me that something is seriously wrong with Lil Barry. Lends credence to what I have been saying……..either he is SERIOUSLY ILL,or he is wearing some really stinky aftershave.

  139. DUMBO sure sounded like a DUMB ASS who just DOESN’T GET IT. Perhaps the flies know what he really has for brains.

  140. It appears that the ACLU is trying to sue Zimmerman. They along with several other Civil Rights groups were at the DOJ today trying to file actions. It isn’t real hard to discern the LIBERAL NUTCASES who are so damn sick that they believe their own propaganda.

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