Illinois snubs Obama gun control efforts, IL legislature approves concealed carry, 7th US Circuit Court of Appeals 2012 ruling, Chicago violence to improve?

Illinois snubs Obama gun control efforts, IL legislature approves concealed carry, 7th US Circuit Court of Appeals 2012 ruling, Chicago violence to improve?

“The problem occurs, sir, in those areas precisely where we have said ‘no guns.’ The problem doesn’t occur where the guns are allowed freely to be carried to be used by people. There we have very low murder rates.”…Larry Pratt

“Weaker people, whether at school, at home or elsewhere are best protected from stronger people, with ill intent, by guns and proper security measures.”…Citizen Wells

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA – ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.”…Heinrich Himmler



From USA Today July 9, 2013.
“Illinois enacts nation’s final concealed-gun law”

“Illinois became the last state in the nation to allow public possession of concealed guns as lawmakers rushed Tuesday to finalize a proposal ahead of a federal court’s deadline.

Both chambers of the Legislature voted to override changes Gov. Pat Quinn made to the bill they approved more than a month ago. Even some critics of the law argued it was better to approve something rather than risk the courts allowing virtually unregulated concealed weapons in Chicago, which has endured severe gun violence in recent months.

The Senate voted 41-17 in favor of the override Tuesday afternoon after the House voted 77-31, margins that met the three-fifths threshold needed to set aside the amendatory veto. Quinn had used his veto authority to suggest changes such as prohibiting guns in restaurants that serve alcohol and limiting gun-toting citizens to one firearm at a time.

Quinn had predicted a “showdown in Springfield” after a week of Chicago appearances to drum up support for the changes he made in the amendatory veto. The Chicago Democrat faces a tough re-election fight next year and has already drawn a primary challenge from former White House chief of state Bill Daley, who has criticized the governor’s handling of the debate over guns and other issues.

Rep. Brandon Phelps, a Democrat from southern Illinois, predicted a history-making day in which lawmakers would dismiss Quinn’s changes as politically motivated.

“He’s trying to cater to, pander to Cook County,” Phelps said, referring to the nation’s second most-populous county, which encompasses Chicago. “And I don’t blame him … because that’s where his votes are.”

The law as approved by the Legislature permits anyone with a Firearm Owner’s Identification card who has passed a background check and undergone gun-safety training of 16 hours — longest of any state — to obtain a concealed-carry permit for $150.”

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From Political Outcast July 11, 2013.
“Illinois was the only state in the U.S. to have an outright prohibition on concealed carry. Residents could own guns but only keep them in their house. They weren’t even allowed to carry an unloaded gun in public.

A couple years ago, a Democrat state Representative Brandon Phelps sponsored a bill that would have allowed concealed carry, albeit with many limitations. The Governor and Rahm Emanuel both lobbied against the bill, and it eventually failed 65 – 32.”

“It’ll be interesting to see what effect this will have on Chicago violence. Over the Independence Day weekend, 74 people were shot and 12 were killed there. The violence is so bad in Chicago that some Illinois reps are calling for the National Guard and state police to step in to try to stem it. Just what they would need. Military and police patrolling their streets. A lot of that could be prevented by having a well-armed populace.”

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13 responses to “Illinois snubs Obama gun control efforts, IL legislature approves concealed carry, 7th US Circuit Court of Appeals 2012 ruling, Chicago violence to improve?

  1. citizenwells

    “Janet Napolitano, the director of Homeland Security, is expected to leave the Obama administration to become head of California’s higher-education system.”

  2. This is the most IDIOTIC arguement in favor of Obama’s legality that I have ever heard…. it’s coming from a pulpit and a black female preacher…

    And this “church” is tax exempt….does that make you feel good today?

    I have never heard a more racist… or more stupid person in my life


    Good Morning All; attached is an article in today’s Chicago Sun Times and it turns out the feud between Rod Blagojevich and his father in law Richard Mell is coming full circle…It turns out that Mell was 1/3 owner in the land fill deal that supposedly started Rod’s down turn and Rod never mentioned Mell being part owner?

  4. oldsailor 81

    Further it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realise that this isn’t limited to the nitwit doing the talking. It reflects the intelligence level of ALL Soetoro supporters. I would venture to guess that the preacher,along with all of the Soetoro supporters combined would not total an intelligence quotient in excess of 5, and this is stretching it.

  5. oldsailor 81

    She will be RIGHT AT HOME, amongst the rest of the California sex deviates.

  6. Wise advice……….


    If a woman is upset, hold her and tell her how beautiful she is.
    If she starts to growl, retreat to a safe distance and throw chocolate at her.

  7. oldsailor 81

    CW ……
    Hopefully the vote to allow concealed carry will give the black gangs a little something to consider before they open up on somebody. The assailant could now end up being the victim.

  8. oldsailor 81

    What if she doesn’t like chocolate?

  9. oldsailor,

    Silly man. Every woman loves chocolate.

  10. citizenwells

    oldsailor, hope so.

  11. oldsailor 81

    During my 81 years on earth I have indeed met a few who absolutely detested chocolate……..but my first wife loved what was then known as chocolate TURTLES. She sometimes bought them at a local chocolate shop.

  12. oldsailor 81

    It is heartening to see that there is still a measure of sensibility remaining in the Illinois legislature. I had begun to think that Illinois was a lost and otherwise deteriorating state. I still can’t believe that they voted for concealed carry. LOOK OUT PUNKS it is possible,and perhaps now PROBABLE that you will receive return fire when you decide to attempt MURDER, and YOU MIGHT END UP DEAD instead of the person you tried to murder. HAR HAR.

  13. Interested Bystander

    oldsailor @4:40am

    But then you end up being charged with 2nd degree murder.

    UP is DOWN

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