Arpaio Obama investigator Mike Zullo, April 5, 2013, Carl Gallups radio interview, Criminal investigation moving forward, Obama birth certificate fraudulent

Arpaio Obama investigator Mike Zullo, April 5, 2013, Carl Gallups radio interview, Criminal investigation moving forward, Obama birth certificate fraudulent

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells

“Barack Obama, show me the college loans.”…Citizen Wells

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″

Mike Zullo was interviewed and answered questions from Callers on the Carl Gallups radio show on April 5, 2013.

One of the topics that Zullo most responded to and elaborated on was the massive effort by the Obama camp to attempt to discredit anyone questioning Obama and his records. This, along with threats, is why so many “conservatives” in the media and in office shy away from joining in.

Both Mike Zullo and Carl Gallups spoke about RINOs who had backed down because of fear of ridicule or attack.

One caller mentioned John Woodman, a supposed conservative and author, who had offered to help the Arpaio investigation. Zullo echoed what was reported here about Woodman. Woodman is another example of misinformation and someone being touted as an expert when they are not.

When asked about joining forces with Orly Taitz and others Zullo reminded us that his is a criminal investigaiton, with a higher standard of evidence and could not be combined with civil cases. He used the example of the OJ Simpson trials, criminal vs civil.

From Citizen Wells September 2, 2011.

“John Woodman has written and published a book titled “Is Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate a Fraud?”.”

“The correct description and one that I have adhered to when writing about it is:

Is the image placed on a photostatic copy of a legitimate long form birth certificate for Obama proving birth in Hawaii?

The difference between these 2 statements is crucial in determining the truth.

Why is this important?

1. An image was placed on with absolutely no proof of chain of document, one that with a cursory examination is highly suspect. Even if proven to have come from the Hawaii Department of Health, it may simply be an abstract.

2. The Hawaii statutes in 1961 and today allow for a birth certificate for a non Hawaiian birth.

Mr. Woodman makes the following “hasty conclusion” or over generalization on Page 205 of his book:

“How Do The Experts Score?”

“So why do the “for’s” at this point, outnumber the against’s?”
Part of the answer is that a few of the individuals in the “for” group have experience and points of view that may not be adequate for, or not quite applicable to, the task. One is a teenager; one is mostly a business owner; another is mostly a financial specialist; one is a writer of non-technical books.

Another is a typographer working with distorted fonts.”

So business owners are incapable of analysis and drawing proper conclusions? This reminds me of the classic attitude of the left and so called intellectuals.

Mr. Woodman, I am uniquely qualified to offer my analysis.

Some of Mr. Woodman’s assertions are wrong or misleading.

From Page 207:

“Dr. Corsi has publicly promoted, either in writing or on the radio, at least twenty-three evidence-of-fraud theories that we cover in this book.
In writing and speaking about his own theories as well as those of others, he has publicly identified the following as potential indicators of fraud:

the nature of the layers
alleged editing of items on the certificate
the white halo
the duplicated characters
the date stamps
the “scanner with x-ray vision
the altered PDF posted at by Doug Vogt
the supposed kerning
comparison with the “African birth” forgery
the supposed lack of text curvature
the apparent lack of a seal
the alignment of Ann Dunham Obama’s signature
the supposed existence of “hidden text”
the idea that a different document exists
the out-of-sequence birth certificate number
Paul Irey’s theory of different typefaces
the supposed misspelling of the word “THE”
the supposed “smiley face” in the signature stamp
the supposed record of the forger’s initials
the supposed lack of hospital records for Mrs. Obama
the discrepancy in Barack Obama, Sr,’s age
the allegations by Tim Adams
and the idea that Governor Abercrombie had stated that no birth certificate existed.

As we have seen, not a single one of these twenty-three alleged indicators or “proofs” that the document is a fraud or invalid really holds up under close examination..
Not one.”

Semantics! If we strictly look at only the image on as being tampered with, then perhaps Mr. Woodman can get away with this, although it makes me question his motives. Some of the items above are certainly open to inspection and questioning. However, if our objective is to ascertain whether or not the image represents a legitimate birth certificate, then Tim Adams affidavit and Governor Abercrombie’s statements are highly relevant. And has Mr. Woodman viewed any hospital records for Stanley and little Obama?

On page 217 Mr. Woodman states:

“Also weighing against the idea of a forgery is the fact that any conspiracy  would need to involve:

high officials in Hawaii state government (most likely, stretching across two gubernatorial administrations of both parties)

lower-level Department of Health staff.

probably at least one official from the White House

most likely some intelligence agency personnel

and Barack Obama himself.

As the number of people required for the conspiracy to work goes up, the likelihood of a successful conspiracy goes down.
Nonetheless, I will admit that it’s possible to believe that a fraud has been committed.”

Tim Adams, documented as having worked in the Honolulu elections office in 2008, has signed an affidavit stating that there was no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii than and that it was common knowledge. Governor Abercrombie stated that he could find no birth certifcate for Obama. Only a notation.

Tim Adams and Governor Abercrombie may not relate to the image being a fraud, but they certainly do to Obama being one.

Mr. Woodman spends much of his efforts trying to debunk the layers and anomalies pointed out by others. He may be correct about some of his assertions. His explanation for most of this is a software program. By doing so, he is in fact proving that the image is not a photostatic copy.

He further compares the image to that of certified copies for the Nordyke twins. He states that they are from the same type of forms. However, the biggest difference between the 2 images is that the Nordyke twins certificates have a stamped seal and verbage that states:

“This certifies that the above is a true and correct copy of the original record on file.”

The image has the following:

“I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii State Department of health.”  Alvin T. Onaki, Ph.D.

Abstract: “The term abstract is subject to different meanings, but in a legal sense, it refers to an abbreviated history of an official record

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30 responses to “Arpaio Obama investigator Mike Zullo, April 5, 2013, Carl Gallups radio interview, Criminal investigation moving forward, Obama birth certificate fraudulent

  1. Anyone want to hear John Woodman?
    January 22, 2012

    “John Woodman debates Mara Zebest, Tom Harrison, and Karl Denninger on the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate.

    Then, in the second half of hour two, Woodman will debate New York Times best-selling author Jerome Corsi who is the author of Where’s The Real Birth Certificate.”

    TEA Party Power Hour – Mark Gillar

  2. I totally missed the interview. Is there a link to hear the replay? Thanks.

  3. It seems to me that any previous congress would have soooo many impeachable charges coming out against this zero it would make heads spin, but now these thugs merely have to hide or obfuscate any and all info that is subpoenaed by any other citizen group or congress itself and they continue to get away with crime after crime. It just gets worse everyday as the few but true headlines report….absolutely no morality of any kind exists with these criminals. Now this:

    WH Refusing To Turn Over Documents About Birth Control Mandate, Tries To Block Subpoena From Catholic Church

    (Reuters) – The Obama administration has gone to court to try to block a subpoena from the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York seeking White House documents about the government’s requirement of insurance coverage for birth control.

    The subpoena requesting documents from President Barack Obama and his senior advisers would be burdensome to fulfill, the administration said in a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

    Citing U.S. Supreme Court precedent, the suit also argues that civil subpoenas of the president’s executive office are inappropriate except in extraordinary circumstances.

  4. Just a thought that I have……….

    We all know that Barry has a food taster. We all know that he takes a long parade of cars of Secret Service/cops. etc! Right? Has anyone ever thought that his big parade of protection is a ‘false flag’? You can not tell me he allows all those so called protectors to be ARMED! Could be some one to take him down! I think he has ony a select few close to him that actually has a real bullet in their gun!

  5. SueQ at 8:38 pm —

    “I totally missed the interview. Is there a link to hear the replay?”
    Go to:

    “For those that can’t catch the live broadcast or don’t wan’t to wait until tomorrow for the WEBY podcast, and barring any streaming issues, this post will be updated with each audio segment shortly after each segment airs live. A full version later in the evening…”

  6. “Full Audio: Sheriff Joe Posse; High-Profile Source Turns Over New Obama Fraud Evidence”

  7. Good morning CW et al.,

    I did listen to the broadcast and quite interesting. Does anyone have a guess as to what the solid evidence sealing and verifying the investigation may be? Scratching my head.

  8. Mike Zullo investigation surrounded 3 things (I think), one was he proved the internet White House B.C. was a fraud, hands down. The other was the Selective Service registration and proved it was forged. I think he might have been involved with the S.S. number, but I don’t remember so I’ll leave that one alone.

    So what could have been “found” by a credible legal source that verifies they work? The way it was described is as if someone came across something by accident. It couldn’t have been the hard copy of a file in the Hawaiian DOH, that’s sealed like a vault. I don’t think anyone working in the Selective Service admin., would have been forthcoming, so what does that leave? Just guessing, but could it be a record of college application as a foreign student? I guess in many ways that could be taken as proof sealing the lid on their investigation?

    I don’t know, just guessing of course.

  9. Comments at ORYR:


    “Has anyone noticed that the worthless Glenn Beck or his minions have made it almost impossible to leave a tip at his website “The Blaze” I tried unsuccessfully to leave information and a link to today’s update by Mike Zullo.

    Maybe someone else can leave the information with them. Let me know if you are successful.

    This reminds me of Fox News online stopping the ability to leave comments because most of them were asking why they would not cover Obama’s usurpation and identity fraud, the only issues that matter..

    What a bunch of cowardly *** they are.”


    “Brietbart stopped me from posting comment a long time ago and the Blaze cut me off as well for sending them “Birther Links”.

    And to that list IOwnThe World, they blocked me from posting link in the comment section, Poets of the East Village Guestpage (where I actually have a Poetry Page published) has blocked me from posting Obama Eligibility links to their Guest Page.

    The list goes on and on…”

  10. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Sorry OT, but this is a block buster. I just caught this at Drudge. Terry McAuliffe, running for Governor of Va and Hillary’s brother are under an investigation into a major fraud. Maybe this is partially how young Chelsea was able to buy a 10 million $ NYC apartment! A criminal element has taken over this country while we all sat by.


    Read the comments.

  11. After listening to Carl Gallups broadcast, I’m praying that God protects them and all involved in the cold case posse, as well as their contacts, from anything unfortunate, such as what happened to Andrew Breitbart.

    Breitbart was fearless! It’s such a shame that his organization has not lived up to his vision.

  12. Beckwith at “The Obama File”:

    “Diana West says get ready for the last straw.

    First, though, I’d like to suggest that anyone reading this column in a local newspaper or news site pat the editor on the back for publishing what in our neo-medieval world of fear amounts to a “forbidden” column.”
    “There is a thread devoted to West’s article. The frustration of those who have looked at the evidence is palpable.

    How do you resolve a situation in which a large to very-large number of Americans are in-their-bones convinced Barack Obama is ineligible to serve as POTUS for any number of reasons.

    Yet, there he struts, across the national stage — and everybody knows.”

  13. Comment at FR:


    “The biggest gift Obama has ever received is from the Obama Supporter PhonyCons who attacked anyone who mentioned Obama Eligibility

    Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, and many others supposedly “conservative” did nothing but attack and ridicule Obama Eligibility folks….providing no proof or evidence contrary. In fact, they all used Alinsky-like tactics against those who raised Obama Eligibility.

    Michelle Malkin even attacked Joe Arpaio and his posse when they determined Obama submitted a fraudulent Hawaii Birth Certificate to the media and public in 2011. Quite frankly, Malkin can just go and ask for work at the White House….she might as well get paid by Obama for helping him

    The conduct of the PhonyCon media on the Eligibility issue has been horrific. Not only they never offered any evidence that proved Obama was eligible (real birth certificate)…..they ensured his victory in 2008 and 2012.

    Only a fool thinks the Dems will not raise the Eligibility issue if Rubio, Jindal, or Cruz run in 2016.”

  14. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Isn’t it obvious by now that all our so called heroes have been INTIMIDATED by Breitbart’s demise?

  15. Air Force Brat!

    Mr. Bill — if that’s the case, then maybe America really is exactly what Eric Holder once called her.

    Breitbart had a heart attack. He had a documented pre-existing heart condition and, quite likely, hypertension as well. He lived a very fast, hard life in his earlier years, which inevitably catches up with a person over time. I realize that’s not going to be a very popular concept, but oh well.

    Not every death is a murder. Not every event is a conspiracy. And not everything seen on the Internet is the truth.

  16. citizenwells

    Breitbart…..interesting timing though.

  17. “Sheriff Joe Arpaio on Possibility of Andrew Breitbart Assassination”

    Published on March 4, 2012

    At YouTube:

    “Sheriff Joe Arpaio on The Alan Stock Radio Show”

    “Sheriff Joe Arpioa spoke with Andrew Breitbart “4 to 5 hours before he died,” the same day that Arpaio released the results of the first ever law enforcement investigation into Obama’s birth certificate announcing it as a “probable forgery.””

  18. Yeah…. mere hours before his meeting with Sheriff Joe. And don’t forget the demise of the coroner.

  19. “Rush Limbaugh: We Have A Dying Country”

    At YouTube:

    “I think it’s official,” he declared. “We have a dying country. There is literally no way that our entitlement programs and our safety net and our absorption of immigrants, legal or otherwise, can be supported this way. This simply cannot be sustained. I don’t know how else to describe this.”

    And yet the “drive-by, state-controlled” media is pretending the report isn’t all that bad, Limbaugh continued. The “low-information population” still somehow thinks President Obama is “trying to come up with something that’ll work, ’cause he cares about everybody.”

    Published on April 5, 2013

    And what has Rush done to educate the “low-to-no information population” about Obama’s ‘Achilles’ heel’- the fabricated past and documents? Nothing.

  20. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I hate to have to keep repeating that the 3 (Three) most important words in the American lexicon are :

    1 – RATINGS
    2 – Cleavage
    3 – “Absolutely”

  21. Re Breitbart. The site was never the same after AB’s death. They failed to release the info Andrew had uncovered and to this day they water down their so called news. Nothing unusual or new comes from them really. I am not necessarily a conspiracy theory adherent, but in this case I think there was waaay more to the story that we will never know. Like all things to do with Obama and his past.

  22. citizenwells


  23. Did Zullo actually say anything new? When is he releasing the solid evidence and to whom? I only heard part of the show and it was much the same thing he has been saying. Nothing new. Is Arpaio still involved? Why talk about this and not do anything to get it out there? Public opinion, msm ridicule, fear? I am so tired of these ‘stunning information coming’ announcements that lead to nothing except laughter from the left right and center. If there is credible, irrefutable evidence that can nail this fraud then get it out there and do it.

  24. citizenwells

    The “stunning” or other adjectives seem to be coming from the sites or shows seeking audience.
    However, slowly & hopefully surely, I am noticing a trend.
    And this is as Zullo keeps reminding us a criminal investigation.
    Hopefully more than a few weasels are sweating & squirming.

  25. My understanding from listening to the broadcast…..towards the end of the show………..Zullo has listening ears and willing participents in DC at high levels who could and would get something done within 3 to 6 months.

    I, for one am tired of disappointments. But I feel like I need to keep hanging on……………………..just one more time, before I give up.

  26. Many of us here believe in charity, whether it be giving to your church or to your neighbor who is down and out.

    Please consider helping the Maricopa Cold Case Posse if you haven’t already.

  27. Reading some of the comments at ORYR, I am getting quite disgusted over some folks’ intolerance with Zullo. After all, any good investigator is not going to show everything in his hand prematurely; only a fool would give heads up to the enemy without a measured purpose. We need less short-sightedness and more patience among patriots’ ranks. Just sayin’.

  28. After I listened to the show, I was trying to figure out who the person was who left the country with her son after intimidation over the birth certificate. I’m not sure I want to know who it is yet, not until the whole story comes out and who knows when that will be, but I sure hope I’m still alive to see it!! There are some people that I just want to tell I TOLD YOU SO!!

  29. Cabby re Zullo you maybe right about patience but then he shouldn’t announce or go on shows telling people he has information that is relevant or new. Too many people have had their hopes elevated by these kinds of expectations from those who supposedly have the goods, tease they have the goods and then fail to produce. How about keeping quiet until the info can be fully released and then hit it hard and get the job done. I guess I am just sick of the hype with nothing really to show for it. This fraud has gone on since 2007 and I am tired of the games. Obama should have never ever been elected the first time and there were people who could have stopped it then and stopped it anytime during this whole, long nightmare we have endured. They should just do it. No more games.

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