Obama Rezko lot purchases, Court records prove Obama lied about contact with Rezko and Rezko requests, Obama Rezko et al Chicago pay to play

Obama Rezko lot purchases, Court records prove Obama lied about contact with Rezko and Rezko requests, Obama Rezko et al Chicago pay to play

“Why were portions of the motion to subpoena Obama by the Blagojevich defense team, damning to Obama, redacted?”…Citizen Wells

“Why did the Rezkos enter into an agreement to purchase the lot next to the Obama house and pay the asking price of $ 625,000 at a time when they were broke and heavily in debt?”…Citizen Wells

“I believe I’m more pristine on Rezko than him.”…Rod Blagojevich

My research, review and discussions regarding Obama’s involvement in Chicago pay to play are progressing. Yesterday I got a clarification from someone who was involved in one of the transactions. Before I proceed, I want to clarify the Obama Rezko relationship and Obama lies about it.

From TPM Muckraker March 3, 2008.

“The connection has dogged Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) ever since it was first reported in November of 2006. With Tony Rezko’s trial finally beginning this week, and with the trial expected to last for months, it will keep dogging him.

You know the general outline. In June of 2005, Obama bought a home in Chicago’s South Side. On the same day, Tony Rezko bought an adjoining lot, the house’s side yard. It was not an isolated association between the two. Rezko was a big-time fundraiser and supporter of Obama, who raised more than $150,000 for Obama’s state and federal campaigns over the span of nine years ($20,000 of that was from Rezko himself). Over the past 16 months, Obama has donated almost $160,000 of those Rezko-linked contributions to charity.

Rezko, a big-time real estate developer and mucky-muck in Illinois politics, was indicted in October of 2006 on fraud and extortion charges.

Although Obama’s longterm relationship with Rezko has gained plenty of scrutiny, the house purchase has understandably gotten the most. Given Rezko’s central role in Illinois’ influence-buying and cronyism scandal, suspicion is natural. Obama himself has called his subsequent purchase of a strip of the adjoining lot from Rezko “bone-headed.” It’s hard not to agree.

There is no sure evidence that the house deal was worse than bone-headed. Not that the question has been put to rest. A number of unanswered questions remain.

For instance, it’s unclear whether Rezko was actually doing a favor for Obama: whether Obama could not have bought the house otherwise or whether Obama derived a financial benefit from Rezko’s involvement in the deal. The main suspicion has been that Rezko’s purchase of the side yard at the seller’s asking price allowed Obama’s purchase of the house to go through since the seller insisted on closing both properties on the same day. But both Obama and Rezko have said that someone else had bid on the side yard, raising the bidding to the asking price. If that’s the case, then Obama could have bought the house without Rezko’s involvement. And Obama has said that his family has stayed off the side yard and never used it for family activities.

Obama has acknowleged, however, that Rezko’s likely motivation for buying the lot was to curry favor with him. Rezko reportedly admitted as much to his business associates. And as The New York Times reports today, Rezko was so heavily in debt at the time he purchased the lot that he did it under his wife’s name in order to protect it from creditors.

And then there’s the other big question, whether Obama ever did anything for Rezko in return for his purchase of the side yard or all those contributions. Obama has said that Rezko “never asked me for anything” and “I’ve never done any favors for him.” No substantial evidence has surfaced to contradict that claim. (The Chicago Sun-Times did dig up letters from Obama in 1998, some seven years before the house sale, urging Illinois and Chicago officials to provide funding for a Rezko company to build apartments for senior citizens, but both Obama and Rezko denied that Rezko had asked Obama to write the letters, and there’s no evidence to the contrary.)

As Rezko’s trial nears, you’re sure to hear the two names raised together again and again. And you’ll be hearing about that house purchase. So we’re laying it all out here. We’ve compiled the main details in our timeline of Rezko and Obama’s relationship here.

Recently, NBC News got a good aerial view of the Obama’s home and side lot, which is now owned by Michael Sreenan, a former business attorney of Rezko’s:
Back in 2004, the home’s owner put both parcels on the market. There was no fence between the two properties, since the undeveloped land served as the house’s side yard, but the properties were listed separately.

In January of 2005, the Obamas made three successive bids on the home, which had been listed at $1.95 million. After bids of $1.3 and then $1.5 million, the Obamas, through an agent, finally offered $1.65 million, a bid which the seller ultimately accepted. Obama has said that the house was on the market for a number of months and was overpriced. The seller, a doctor at the University of Chicago named Fredric Wondisford who has refused to speak to the media, has stated in an email released by the Obama campaign to Bloomberg that Obama’s bid was the highest bid on the home. Obama has said that he didn’t purchase the side yard because he could not afford it.

It’s still unclear exactly how Rezko came to buy the side yard. Back in November of 2006, when Obama was first interviewed by The Chicago Tribune about the deal, he was very hazy on the details: “I don’t recall exactly what our conversations were or where I first learned, and I am not clear what the circumstances were where he made a decision that he was interested in the property.”

In answering written questions from The Chicago Sun-Times later that week, he was clearer: “to the best of [his] recollection,” he’d told Rezko about the side yard and that “he developed an interest, knowing both the location and, as I recall, the developer who had previously purchased it.”

Last month, an Obama spokesman divulged more: that at some point before the purchase, which closed in June of 2005, Obama and Rezko had toured the property together “because Rezko was a real-estate developer in the area” and Obama wanted his opinion. The spokesman could not specify when, exactly, this tour had occurred — before Obama had made successive bids on the home in January of 2005, or after.

It’s not clear when Rezko bid on the property, but Obama has said that the seller accepted Rezko’s bid on the yard before accepting Obama’s bid on the house.

Both Obama and Michael Sreenan, Rezko’s former attorney who now owns the adjoining lot, have said that at least one other party bid on the yard, as an explanation for why Rezko ultimately paid the seller’s asking price, $625,000. The burning question, of course, is whether Rezko was doing Obama a favor by buying the side lot at the asking price. Though the seller, via the campaign, has corroborated other details about the purchase, he has not confirmed that there were other bids on the lot.

Though Obama made his final offer in January of 2005, the purchase did not close for another five months. It’s unclear why.

By June of 2005, when the purchases did close, Rezko’s ethical and legal troubles had begun unraveling on the pages of the city’s major newspapers. Just a month before, The Chicago Tribune had run a major profile of Rezko and his many entanglements, including the fact that he’d been subpoenaed as part of a sprawling corruption probe of the state government.

As you can see from the picture of the property above, the two properties are now divided by a fence. But there was no fence when the purchases were made. The Obamas have provided documents to The Chicago Tribune to show that, immediately following the purchase, they began making preparations for installing a fence — an undertaking that required considerable paperwork since the properties are landmarked. That process lasted several months.

When it finally came time to install the fence, the Obamas also wanted to extend their property by another five to ten feet so that the fence would be at a distance from the house. The Obamas ultimately purchased from Rezko a 10-foot wide strip adjacent to and paralleling their property line.

Obama has said that he approached Rezko personally in January of 2006 about buying some of the adjacent lot. To set the price for the 1,500-square-foot strip, which was one-sixth of the entire lot, Obama hired a firm to appraise its value. When that appraisal came in at $40,500, Obama says he judged it too low for appearance’s sake and instead set the price at $104,500, which was one-sixth of the price Rezko had paid for the entire lot. There’s been no suggestion that Rezko actually negotiated with Obama on the price. In any case, he accepted.

Rezko’s rapidly deteriorating situation might explain Obama’s extra caution. Since its profile of Rezko the previous May, the Tribune had also brought word (as you can see on our timeline) that Rezko had been subpoenaed on a number of other matters, all pertaining to U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald’s investigation of influence-buying, cronyism, and extortion in Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s (D) government. It was increasingly clear that he was of central interest to prosecutors. He was finally indicted in October of 2006.

Though Obama’s name may come up at the trial, since Rezko allegedly made illegal “straw” contributions (via intermediaries) to Obama in addition to a number of other politicians, he is expected to be only a peripheral player. As The Los Angeles Times puts it this morning, Obama will be in “the background.” But unfortunately for Obama, Rezko is also certain to be in the background of his campaign through November.”


I will answer 2 of the questions now, more later.

First a simple one.

“Though Obama made his final offer in January of 2005, the purchase did not close for another five months. It’s unclear why.”

Answer: The Obamas did not have the money or income in January 2005 (see 2004 tax return). The Rezkos were flat broke and heavily in debt (from Rezko Trial records and other sources). More later.

“And then there’s the other big question, whether Obama ever did anything for Rezko in return for his purchase of the side yard or all those contributions. Obama has said that Rezko “never asked me for anything” and “I’ve never done any favors for him.” No substantial evidence has surfaced to contradict that claim. (The Chicago Sun-Times did dig up letters from Obama in 1998, some seven years before the house sale, urging Illinois and Chicago officials to provide funding for a Rezko company to build apartments for senior citizens, but both Obama and Rezko denied that Rezko had asked Obama to write the letters, and there’s no evidence to the contrary.)”

We know from Rezko trial transcripts that Obama lied about his contact with Tony Rezko.

Chicago SunTimes February 10, 2008.

“In the media, Obama always made it sound like he rarely saw Rezko, saying they met for breakfast or lunch once or twice a year. However, the FBI mole John Thomas helped investigators “build a record of repeat visits to the old offices of Rezko and former business partner Daniel Mahru’s Rezmar Corp., at 853 N. Elston, by Blagojevich and Obama during 2004 and 2005,“

Chicago SunTimes March 14, 2008 interview with Obama.

“Thomas is an FBI mole and he “recently told us that he saw you coming and going from Rezko’s office a lot.””

From the Blagojevich Trial subpoena of Barack Obama. Portions related to Obama were initially redacted but then discovered.

“21. Tony Rezko is one of the government’s main witnesses.8 Mr. Rezko’s credibility is extremely relevant in this trial. In many instances, Mr. Rezko is the government’s crucial witness to prove up their allegations.9 Mr. Rezko wrote a letter to a federal judge stating “the prosecutors have been overzealous in pursuing a crime that never happened. They are pressuring me to tell them the “wrong” things that I supposedly know about Governor Blagojevich and Senator Obama. I have never been a party to any wrongdoing that involved the Governor or the Senator. I will never fabricate lies about anyone else for selfish purposes.” (Exhibit A)”

“22. However, the defense has a good faith belief that Mr. Rezko, President Obama’s former friend, fund-raiser, and neighbor told the FBI and the United States Attorneys a different story about President Obama. In a recent in camera proceeding, the government tendered a three paragraph letter indicating that Rezko “has stated in interviews with the government that he engaged in election law violations by personally contributing a large sum of cash to the campaign of a public official who is not Rod Blagojevich. … Further, the public official denies being aware of cash contributions to his campaign by Rezko or others and denies having conversations with Rezko related to cash contributions. … Rezko has also stated in interviews with the government that he believed he transmitted a quid pro quo offer from a lobbyist to the public official, whereby the lobbyist would hold a fundraiser for the official in exchange for favorable official action, but that the public official rejected the offer. The public official denies any such
conversation. In addition, Rezko has stated to the government that he and the
public official had certain conversations about gaming legislation and
administration, which the public official denies having had.”10?

“10 The defense has a good faith belief that this public official is Barack Obama. See, “Obama on Rezko deal: It was a mistake”, Dave McKinney, Chris Fusco, and Mark Brown, Chicago Sun Times, November 5, 2006. Senator Barack Obama was asked: “Did Rezko or his companies ever solicit your support on any matter involving state or federal government? Did Al Johnson, who was trying to get a casino license along with Tony Rezko, or Rezko himself ever discuss casino matters with you?” Senator Obama answered: “No, I have never been asked to do anything to advance his business interest. In 1999, when I was a State Senator, I opposed legislation to bring a casino to Rosemont and allow casino gambling at docked riverboats which news reports said Al Johnson and Tony
Rezko were interested in being part of. I never discussed a casino license with either of them. I was a vocal opponent of the legislation.” Obama’s involvement with Tony Rezko and this legislation coincides with the three paragraph summary the government has provided to the defense referenced above.”

“23. President Obama is the only one who can testify as to the veracity of Mr. Rezko’s allegations above.

24. President Obama has pertinent information as to the character of Mr. Rezko.
President Obama can testify to Mr. Rezko’s reputation for truthfulness as well as his own opinion of Mr. Rezko’s character. See, Fed. R. Evid. 405(a) and 608. Mr.
Rezko and President Obama became friends in 1990. According to President Obama, Mr. Rezko raised as much as $60,000 in campaign contributions for Obama.11

25. Based on the relationship that President Obama and Mr. Rezko had, President Obama can provide important information as to Mr. Rezko’s plan, intent, opportunity, habit and modus operandi. See, Fed. R. Evid. 404(b) and 406. For example, in June 2005, President Obama purchased a house for $1.65 million, $300,000 below the asking price. On the same day Tony Rezko’s wife, Rita, paid full price — $625,000 — for the adjoining land. In January 2006, Obama paid Mr. Rezko $104,500 for a strip of the adjoining land. The transaction took place when it was widely known that Mr. Rezko
was under investigation.12 President Obama’s relationship with Tony Rezko is
relevant and necessary Fed. R. Evid. 404(b) and 406 evidence.”

Motion to subpoena Obama redacted.


Motion to subpoena Obama redacted portions revealed.



137 responses to “Obama Rezko lot purchases, Court records prove Obama lied about contact with Rezko and Rezko requests, Obama Rezko et al Chicago pay to play

  1. The usurper lies about everything, it’s how he got to where he is.

    America deserves better than a two bit liar.

  2. Were the Rezko’s also in on the purchase of the O house? How could anyone purchase it without a clear title since there were so many pin #s associated with it? Was the latest pin # created for just this sale and purchase of the house? How could anyone in the future get clear title on the house with extra portioned lot when that portion must have its own assessment as yet and former taxes paid? From whom did Rezko’s purchase the lot? Can Obama actually be considered the legal owner of the house when someone else pays taxes and it is listed as owned by that Trust? Why would he pay taxes in his name at least once while others paid taxes at other times? How does the IRS consider the ownership of house? Is it legal for taxpayer paid security on house when it is not listed in Obama’s name….when Obama is not there?

    A lot of questions I know but doesn’t this reek of illegal cronyism in its use of taxpayer money? Thanks.

  3. Wow! Sheriff Arpaio should get this guy on his list of experts of forgery:

    Former Science Advisor To Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu And Founder Of Israel Science And Technology Declares Obama Birth Certificate Forged: Slams U.S. Congress, U.S. Senate, And U.S. Courts Lack Of Action


    “Long-Form Birth Certificate of Obama is a Forged Document”

    Since this is a site of Science and technology, there is a need to explain why this site dedicates a page to expose forgery about a document related to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Mr. Obama is the President of the USA that is currently the leader of the Free World, and the most powerful country in the Western hemisphere. In his position as the President, the policies pursued by Mr. Obama affects the whole world and not just the USA.

    Because of the persisting controversy about his eligibility, On April 27, 2011 the Office of the President at the White House released a document that is called “Long-Form Birth Certificate”. The release of this simple document, after two years of controversy, raised in our minds the possibility that there could be something suspicious about the information available on this document. To check this, we downloaded the document that was posted at the White House site at http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf.

    The analyses presented below reveal without a doubt that the Long-Form Birth Certificate of Mr. Obama is a fabricated, fake and forged document.

    The publication of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reigns on the most powerful country of the World.


  4. observer | September 9, 2012 at 12:57 pm |

    Were the Rezko’s also in on the purchase of the O house? How could anyone purchase it without a clear title since there were so many pin #s associated with it? Was the latest pin # created for just this sale and purchase of the house? How could anyone in the future get clear title on the house with extra portioned lot when that portion must have its own assessment as yet and former taxes paid? From whom did Rezko’s purchase the lot? Can Obama actually be considered the legal owner of the house when someone else pays taxes and it is listed as owned by that Trust? Why would he pay taxes in his name at least once while others paid taxes at other times? How does the IRS consider the ownership of house? Is it legal for taxpayer paid security on house when it is not listed in Obama’s name….when Obama is not there?

    A lot of questions I know but doesn’t this reek of illegal cronyism in its use of taxpayer money? Thanks.
    You can be sure, the taxpayers are getting screwed, by this usurper.

    Doesn’t the usurpers home phone at that address, ring at the office of the communist party?

  5. observer….as I was reading cw’s remarks I was thinking the same thing! Some land title company in Chicago/Illinois will have a job proving who owns the house and land. A survey will be in question too! If I were to be ask to be the realtor and title company to close on the deal I would say ‘no thank you.’ We know how Barry and his little morons can forge documents. 🙂 I would not take that house if it were given to me…to hot!

  6. Ginger | September 9, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    I would not take that house if it were given to me…to hot!
    It’s in a lousy neighborhood anyway.

  7. This is good news.
    Democrats Said to End Convention $15 Million Short
    By Hans Nichols – Sep 7, 2012 2:44 PM PT

    Democrats ended their convention in Charlotte $5 million short of their budget even after being forced to draw down a $10 million line of credit from Duke Energy Corp. (DUK), according to a Democratic Party fundraiser.

    That will leave a $15 million bill that eventually will have to be paid by President Barack Obama’s campaign or the Democratic National Committee, according to the fundraiser, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

    The Charlotte Host Committee ended the convention with more than $5 million in immediate obligations and may require a direct cash infusion from the Obama campaign to pay vendors, said the fundraiser.

    The $10 million line of credit to Duke Energy will need to be repaid next year, said a second person familiar with the matter, who also spoke on condition of anonymity. Duke Energy Chairman and Chief Executive OfficerJim Rogersis co-chairman of the host committee.

    Those debts could siphon off advertising money in the campaign’s final months, as Democrats face a cash disadvantage.

  8. Obama and the DNC Running on Empty

    The chair came to Eastwood in a moment of inspiration, just before he was about to go onstage at the RNC.

    …he was taken to a Green Room, where Archbishop Dolan of New York sought him out to say hello. Then he was taken backstage to wait for his cue. And that was when inspiration struck.

    “There was a stool there, and some fella kept asking me if I wanted to sit down,” Eastwood said. “When I saw the stool sitting there, it gave me the idea. I’ll just put the stool out there and I’ll talk to Mr. Obama and ask him why he didn’t keep all of the promises he made to everybody.”

    He asked a stagehand to take it out to the lectern while he was being announced.

    “The guy said, ‘You mean you want it at the podium?’ and I said, ‘No, just put it right there next to it.'”

    Then, with the theme song from “The Good, the Bad and the Ugly” as a musical introduction, and a huge picture of him as Josey Wales as the backdrop, Eastwood walked out to tremendous applause.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/obama_and_the_dnc_running_on_empty.html#ixzz25zpVzTjU

  9. bob,
    the Dems are good at over spending other people’s money.

  10. CW,
    you can see the results of the Dems decisions, failure.

  11. Same story, no money, except for Solyndra.
    Obama Screws our Soldiers – Again
    Ed Lasky

    Investors Business Daily reports in “Obama to Soldiers Overseas: No Voting for You”:

    Military: The administration thanks the troops for their service by failing to comply with a law requiring that it help soldiers deployed overseas cast ballots in their home states.

    The administration has taken various states to court to block voter ID laws on the grounds it will disenfranchise voters. But it has no qualms about the disenfranchisement of military voters overseas through its failure to comply with and enforce the Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act, passed by Congress in 2009 and signed into law by President Barack Obama.

    The law acknowledges the difficulties caused by time and distance for deployed soldiers in exercising the right to vote they put their lives on the line to protect. One of the key provisions required each military branch to create an installation voting assistance office (IVAO) for every military base outside an immediate combat zone.

    Last week, however, the Pentagon’s inspector general reported that attempts to locate and contact IVAO offices at overseas military installations failed about half the time.

    “Results were clear. Our attempts to contact IVAOs failed about 50% of the time,” the inspector general reported. “We concluded the Services had not established all the IVAOs as intended by the MOVE Act because, among other issues, the funding was not available.”

    The estimated cost of establishing functioning IVAOs at all overseas military bases not in combat zones is estimated at between $15 million and $20 million a year. We wasted $530 million on Solyndra but can’t afford a relative pittance to ensure our soldiers are not disenfranchised.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/obama_screws_our_soldiers_-_again.html#ixzz25zz0tJh4

  12. More lies.

    ‘Occupy’ terrorists now called ‘radical right’ by Southern Poverty Law Center
    Thomas Lifson

    Did you know that the Occupy Movement is actually a part of the “radical right”? The movement, which received favorable comments from the commanding heights of the American left — President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, the New York Times, and MSNBC — has now shown itself to include very violent elements, including actual terrorists, who began a bomb plot in Cleveland, only to be apprehended before carrying out their program of terror.

    The media has done its best to ignore the Occupy terrorists, but have now confessed. Perhaps drawing inspiration from Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who can lie with an utterly straight face about reality (what she said on tape about the Israeli ambassador, what happened on the floor of the DNC when the words Jerusalem and God were excised and then restored to the platform), the Southern Poverty Law Center has stepped in to solve the problem for the left. Re-define the Occupy movement as “radical right.”

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/occupy_terrorists_now_called_radical_right_by_southern_poverty_law_center.html#ixzz2602f3nJW

  13. CW

    The attempt to whitewash begins



  14. Thanks Whistleblower.
    I have been discussing this with a Chicago story person & will stay on top of it.

  15. More of the up is down and down is up stuff:

    Judge David Fuhry Dismisses Obama CT Social Security Number Case: Ohio Secretary of State Has No Statutory Authority To Bar Obama From Ballot; Use Of An Improper Social Security Number Does Not Disqualify Obama’s Ballot Access

    Judge David Fuhry: “However, no where is it clear that use of an improper social security number is a ground for the Secretary of State to reject the candidacy of President Obama, or any other candidate for office. Thus, Count One of the Complaint should be dismissed for failure to state a claim.”

    Do these people realize yet how completely idiotic their statements of rationale appear? Do they realize yet how they themselves appear to be complete idiots and Obot water carriers? How ’bout “use of a stolen Social Security Number”? Don’t like that particular naming of Oboma’s crime? I suppose then such “use of an improper social security number” also does not disqualify illegals either….then why the gov’s own e-verify system? Just more waste fraud and abuse of taxpayers’ money?

  16. forgive for not sticking with the topic–I just felt this needed to be published

    The Curious Hypocrisy of the Women Who Support Obama

    How do they resolve the conflicting and contradictory premises of the Dem’s?

    The DNC made a large effort in announcing to the world their invite of 20,000 Muslims to the DNC and the Jumah that would occur. For the first time in the history of American politics a political convention makes a big issue about being pro Islam and also is making a big issue about women’s rights. Is there a direct and irreconcilable conflict between supporting womens’s rights and supporting ISLAM? Look at some of the headlines and clips previewing the 2012 DNC.

    • “Radical Islam Joins the Dnc” by Breeanne House (Diary) 8/21/12

    • Obama invites 20,000 Muslims, then denounces God and Israel! http://t.Co/zcj7jyyz

    • DNC Invites 20,000 Muslims

    • “Democratic National Convention will open with a focus on Islam. ?20,000 Muslims are expected to attend according to the?Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs (BIMA), the national Muslim American non-profit coordinating the two days of events they?claim?are non-political. ?”Jumah at the DNC” begins August 29 and will start with a Friday afternoon jummah prayer followed by other unnamed programs and events, leading up to the Islamic Regal Banquet. The following day will be an all day Islamic Cultural and Fun Fest which will include discussions on the topics of?Islamaphobia, Anti-Shariah, Middle Eastern Crisis, Patriot Act, National Defense Authorization Act and more. ?The purpose, according to BIMA, is to attract national and international attention to the plight of American Muslims and to hold political parties accountable for issues that affect them. ?However, not all Muslims feel that BIMA represents them and M. Zuhdi Jasser M.D., Founder and President of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, has expressed serious concerns.”

    • Read Post on Breitbart.com – DNC Invites ‘Indigenous’ Muslim Group to Convention

    • Go to this article Posted on 9/1/2012 by Political Blog ” alt=”” width=”140″ class=”auto-image alignleft”/> from Breitbart.com

    • The mystery surrounding how the “Jumah at the DNC” event sponsored by the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs , an obscure Islamist organization, became part of the officially sanctioned DNC/Charlotte in 2012 pre-convention program has begun to unravel. Ibrahim Jaaber, son of BIMA Executive Director Muhammad Jaaber, told Breitbart News the DNC “reached out” to the Muslim organization and invited it to hold a two-hour prayer service as one of the officially sanctioned pre-convention events beginning Friday, August 31. In addition to the “Jumah” event, BIMA hosted the DNC/Charlotte in 2012 officially sanctioned “Islamic Regal Dinner” later that night. The convention itself kicks off on Monday, September 3. The BIMA website says the organization is ”a non profit organization seeking status with the United Nations as a non governmental organization (NGO).

    • In Obama’s Weekly Address he said it loud and clear: “We will never be at war with Islam.”

    Since the presidential campaign began a few months ago, the Dems have been attempting to promote the idea that Republicans are anti-women’s rights and desire to return them to days of being denied the vote. Recently the Dems have featured several speakers at the DNC and other events who are speaking allegedly on behalf of women’s rights while simultaneously supporting all things Islam. The DNC has been over the top regarding abortion of which I am not personally against if it is done only in the first trimester. Sandra, the fluke, Fluke stated in her DNC talk that “Ryan would allow women to die in the emergency room.” Actress Kerry Washington claimed; “Republicans want to take away a women’s right to vote. Can you believe the actual sincerity of these women?

    • Caroline Kennedy —- “As a Catholic woman, I take reproductive health seriously. And today it is under attack. This year alone, more than a dozen states have passed more than 40 restrictions on women’s access to reproductive health care. That’s not the kind of future I want for my daughters or your daughters. Now isn’t the time to roll back the rights we were winning when my father was president. Now is the time to move this country forward.”
    • (According to Catholic dogma Ms Arrogant Kennedy is a heretic. Catholics cannot pick and choose which part of Catholicism they like and which to follow verses which they don’t and think they can remain Catholic. I notice Pelousy/Pelosi thinks she, too can do the same. Their ignorance shouts volumes about what it means to be a Catholic. Though both may have come from a Catholic background, neither of them are Catholics in reality. They are in realty HERETICS.)

    • “ (CNSNews.com) — Kathleen Turner, actress and chairwoman of Planned Parenthood’s Board of Advocates, criticized “personhood” legislation, which defines life as beginning at conception and ending at natural death, and asked how a human embryo would know it had such personhood rights.

    • At the National Press Club on Wednesday, Turner spoke about reproductive rights and mocked the idea of a “personhood” law. “And then we have the so-called ‘personhood’ bills,” she said. “Now these would give full legal rights to a zygote, at the moment sperm meets egg. Frankly, I have always wondered, ‘How do they know?’”

    ISLAM is a system of government under which women HAVE NO RIGHTS. Islam believes, supports and practices all of the following in all countries on the planet to this very moment: that a woman not completely covered in those suffocating burkas is uncovered meat, must wear hijabs, marriage of little girls under the age of 10, no votes for women, slavery, honor killings should a woman become a rape victim is she doesn’t marry her rapist, honor killings for any other reason real or imagined the family thinks the poor victim disgraced the family, that it is okay to have sex with a baby under one year old as long as it is only “THIGHING”, clitorectomies, mutilation of all kinds upon innocent women, burying women in the ground up to their chest so she can be stoned to death for merely an accusation of infidelity be it true or false, women are forbidden to drive cars, it is permissible to beat and maim their wives and children and on and on and on.

    Code Pink, (wearers of vagina costumes) Lady GAGa, Madona all think they are “ they’re such cool women warriors” speaking out on behalf of the women of the world in their blind support of Obama the 100% supporter of ISLAM. Simultaneously they support a man and his minions who support one of the greatest offenders of women’s rights in the world—ISLAM while garnering attention to themselves as believers in women’s rights.


    When these speakers are so passionately attempting to persuade people of their righteous cause of women’s rights are they only speaking for American women or all women? There are plenty of Muslim women in America suffering under Islams’ abuse of women.

    Do the DNC female warriors give a rat’s tail for women’s rights and also support Islam?

    Is it possible these women are unaware of Islam’s basic fundamental premise on women?

    Is it possible if these road-to-hell-paved-with-good-intentions female warriors do know about Islams’ fundamental premise on women—they just don’t give a damn?

    Is it possible they don’t know but if knew would regroup their strategy and include their message to bring attention to the world of the suffering of the women of Islam?

    Do the DNC Female speakers for women’s rights truly support the Obama and the DNC platform? If so how do they resolve the DNC’s support of Islam? Maybe they are just whores who will say anything they are told for the right price?
    Therese Daniels 9/9/12 C

  17. One thing is for sure,

    Hillary Clinton and John McCain both were aware of Obama’s past and problems as a running candidate elect. Both were made aware of critical facts supporting such. Both ignored those facts (now much more) with an attempt not to be labeled as a racists and attempt to beat Obama at the polls alone.

    Both failed…..

  18. usapatriots-shout | September 9, 2012 at 4:49 pm
    They need to stick to promoting American values, and quit promoting Islamic values, and foreign values. What is wrong with these people?

    DNC women appear to be ignorant, hypocrites. Supporting Islam and women’s rights, is an oxymoron.

    Great article Therese.

  19. So at least Judge recognizes the SS# Obama is currently using is invalid…..

    Judge David Fuhry: “However, no where is it clear that use of an improper social security number is a ground for the Secretary of State to reject the candidacy of President Obama, or any other candidate for office. Thus, Count One of the Complaint should be dismissed for failure to state a claim.”

    Private Investigator Susan Daniels plans to appeal the decision
    @ Obamareleaseyourrecords

  20. William | September 9, 2012 at 5:01 pm |

    One thing is for sure,

    Hillary Clinton and John McCain both were aware of Obama’s past and problems as a running candidate elect. Both were made aware of critical facts supporting such. Both ignored those facts (now much more) with an attempt not to be labeled as a racists and attempt to beat Obama at the polls alone.

    Both failed…..
    Maybe they should have tried, The Truth!

  21. The Truth is Hillary Clinton is cut from the same cloth. As for McCain,.. that can wait for another day.

  22. Bob,

    Remember that JBJD was a huge supporter of Hillary, knowing full well that Hillary had already publicly declared herself years prior as a “Progressive Liberal”, not necessary a Democrat?

    JBJD is very intelligent and an attorney, and she writes several well informed articles, but that’s not my point. Do the works of Karl Marx and subsequent literature and history from those attempting to implement Socialism in the United States – such as 6 time presidential attempt by Norman Thomas, not in the least ring any intelligent bell? Or is the more obvious question prevalent whereby people support candidates based on Sex and Race, regardless?

    Can we only say the uneducated are stupid?

  23. Whistleblower | September 9, 2012 at 5:21 pm |

    The Truth is Hillary Clinton is cut from the same cloth. As for McCain,.. that can wait for another day.

    I am assuming you mean Hillary and Obama cut from the same cloth? Of which I would agree to a great point.


    Perhaps not cut from the same cloth; but in the end, it only matters if you use the same dye on your cloth to match….

  24. William | September 9, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    Can we only say the uneducated are stupid?
    Many voters don’t know enough to make an educated choice for the chief executive, it ends up a popularity contest, and we can see where that gets us.

  25. Bob,

    Did you get a chance to listen to the interview at Obamareleaseyourrecords website titled: “Sheriff Joe’s Lead Investigator Just Back From Hawaii”?

    “This is an extensive interview with Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s lead investigator Mike Zullo, who just returned from Hawaii, conducted by Rick Wiles of TruNews”

    It was a four part series and well worth the listen. I believe it was either the 3rd or 4th session whereby Mike Zullo (I’m paraphrasing here) stated that he had been informed that the Republican Party was informed and had be aware of Obama’s issues, but will wait until they can beat him at the polls. But if they fail, then they will address his eligibility issues.

    Kinda putting the cart before the horse. In other words, they know and have known…

  26. I have been tryhing to log onto Redcoounty, North and get a page that says it can’tbe accessed. Does any one here know if they can get onto Redcountry?

  27. Thanks William, I watched part of the interview but not that part, about the Republican party knowing about the usurper’s eligibility.

    If they are aware of illegalities and do nothing about it they are guilty of misprision of felony.

    From Wikipedia,
    “Misprision of felony” is still an offense under United States federal law after being codified in 1909 under 18 U.S.C. § 4:

    Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    This offense, however, requires active concealment of a known felony rather than merely failing to report it.[7]

  28. usapatriots-shout | September 9, 2012 at 6:04 pm
    I tried but got nowhere. “Forbidden”

  29. Ginger | September 9, 2012 at 6:53 pm |

    OMG….. Look at the picture!!!!!!

    Joey getting a lap dance.

  30. This was on another blog. ???


  31. Ginger,
    Here’s a picture of the usurper, from Michelle Malkin

    More here: http://twitchy.com/2012/09/09/potus-lifted-photo-shows-pizza-owner-physically-lifting-obama/

  32. bob….So funny but how come the pizza man did not lift his blackberry? hmmm
    Did Barry get a rise in his levis? 🙂

  33. Michael Savage – Voter Fraud Is A Serious Threat To This Election!


  34. Bob Strauss

    That is strange. I wonder what’s up? Thank you foro doing that. I don’t feel so inter net incompetent. Thank you for the compliment on my DNC Hypocrasy essay.

  35. Where’s Gordo, haven’t seen a post from him in awhile?

  36. This is probably waaaay more “education” than most would like or are curious about….so warning….but this is what is behind the gay agenda and why they are trying to insert it into schools as early as possible….and this is also what is being introduced to weaken the military. It’s really what they are trying to do to traditional marriage by redefining it. Quite a lot here and from the “inside out”. Gad, everything takes on a double entendre here! Again…warning!

    Same-sex marriage: It’s not about monogamy

    Some of the tamer part:

    Back to Scott James of the New York Times. James writes that “gay nuptials are portrayed by opponents as an effort to rewrite the traditional rules of matrimony. Quietly, outside of the news media and courtroom spotlight, many gay couples are doing just that” — which is to “rewrite” the traditional institution of marriage into a meaningless institution of open promiscuity, devoid of the emotional commitment of fidelity. (like their own experience, hating themselves and taking it out in revenge against traditional healthy married couples.

    Other parts of the article speak to what is really being done is just an “aping” of traditional marriage which they can never truly be….since one has to play the role of one gender while the other plays the other part….by choice. Really sick stuff.

  37. Ginger | September 9, 2012 at 6:53 pm |

    I saw the picture you posted from Gateway Pundit. Her boyfriend/ husband looks a bit ticked off as well as the friend. Makes you wonder if Joe Biden has peas for brains. Either one could deck him in a nanno-second but I guess he doesn’t worry because he has the secret service backing him up no matter what he does or where he goes. He’s pathetic.

  38. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/09/sheriff-joes-lead-investigator-john.html#comment-form

    Sheriff Joe’s Lead Investigator: John Boehner Not Allowing Congress Investigate Obama

    Sheriff Arpaio’s Commander Mike Zullo Blames
    John Boehner For Congressional Inaction On Obama!
    Tea Party Power Hour with Mark Gillar

    (video below)

    Highlights of the interview:

    1:46 – Cops Called On Zullo In Hawaii Again.

    9:45 – State of Hawaii refuses to release original Virginia Sunahara record because they are to “brittle”.

    10:30 – No Problem Finding Virginia Sunahara’s Hospital Records.

    15:46 – Investigation Far From Over.

    16:32 – More information in the coming weeks.

    17:35 – We all know Kapialani Hospital Doesn’t Have Records for Obama.

    18:23 – Arpaio has tried unsuccessfully for three months to get the ear of congress. CCP has just learned that John Boehner is not allowing congress to get involved.

    18:48 – Zullo would like to see a special prosecutor.

    24:11 – We have some very encouraging leads to pursue.

    25:50 – If Obama is Voted Out Perhaps Doors Will Open for Sheriff Arpaio and CCP.

  39. Observer,

    Pretty damned sorry state of affairs we are in, I would say.

    It is time for Arpaio to drop this on the DA and let the chips fall where they may.

    Good going USS of A.

    Dear Lord, please forgive us and deliver us from from evil. Amen.

    Thank you CW and all here that continue in this effort.

    Have a nice day.

  40. Time to Ask Obama about His Social Security Number
    By Jack Cashill

    I have been communicating with the intrepid Ohio private investigator, Susan Daniels, for some time. A few weeks ago, I got to meet Daniels. She is smart and sincere, and she understands her subject matter thoroughly. The left-wing “rebuttals” of her data, to this point, have ranged from the inept to the absurd.

    More to the point, Daniels has information that the Romney campaign needs to know and needs to talk about: President Barack Obama has apparently been using a fraudulent Social Security number for the last 25 years.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/time_to_ask_obama_abut_his_social_security_number.html#ixzz264ekPsfa

  41. Whistleblower/Citizen Wells: Chase/Cohen said that they listened to all the tapes…Are they available to anyone?

  42. Bessie.
    That is a good question.

  43. There are a lot of good articles that show the general state that we’re in with this diabolical regime here:


    Too many to link separately today!

  44. Bessie,

    No they are not available, I doubt that Chase and Coen really had full access. In any case, we are now suppose to accept there is nothing on the tapes because Chase and Coen say so ! Nothing to see here folks move along. Not so fast Fitz. We are going to take a closer look.

  45. Comment from


    cfkerchner said…[Reply]
    I said it before and I’ll say it again. We patriots gave the House of Reps back to the Repubs in the 2010 election and we expected them to investigate the ID fraud charges against Obama as part of their mission. The progressive wing of the Repubs in the House lead by Speaker Boehner, in communications with progressives such as McCain in the Senate, have blocked such and investigation because they know that they were complicit in allowing Obama to run unchallenged by the RNC in 2008 as to Obama’s criminal ID fraud issues and Obama’s lack of constitutional eligibility in order to get the Dem operatives off of Senator McCain so that McCain could run. It is time to remove the Republican leadership in the House and RNC and replace it now or after this coming election with conservative leaders and a conservative Speaker of the House. John Boehner has to be relegated to a bench in the middle of the House next to the progressive lefties which is fitting and symbolic of his leadership of the House the last 2 years. House Speaker John Boehner and Senator McCain and others put party political election objectives ahead of the truth and the Constitution in 2008. And they are continuing to do it. Also, from what I hear tell, John Boehner is sloshed by mid afternoon on most days anyway and does not really know with a clear mind what is going on. In listening to his closing of the RNC Convention, I think he was sloshed then. Completely new leadership is needed in the House of Reps, the People’s House, so the voice of We the People will be heard and they will take action on what they are hearing.

    September 10, 2012 12:26 AM

  46. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    A very interesting review on the movie everyone is talking about except the USURPER – “2016”


    PS – Watch the clip in the article.

  47. And you wonder why men don’t go for the creepy regime?:


    How Biden woos blue collar women (with pictures)

    What is wrong with VPOS* Joe Biden?

    First, he put his hand on the thigh of a male trooper.

    Next, he kissed a strange woman on the lips in a fair in Ohio.

    Now, this is how the VPOS is “connecting” with blue collar voters in Ohio:

    Here’s another shot of the VPOS and his lap-mate. Note the VPOS is not wearing his wedding ring:

    *VPOS = Vice Piece of Sh*t

  48. observer | September 10, 2012 at 10:30 am
    It may be more fruitful to wait until the usurper is out of office to move to prosecute him.

    Impeachment would fail because of the dems.

  49. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PPS – If you remember “The Shot Heard Around The World”, then this might become ” The Torpedo SEEN Around The World”!!

  50. Headline links from Drudge…..(how does anyone live there and keep their sanity these days?)

    Turn Down $400 Million Deal, 16% Pay Raise…
    Highest Average Salary In Nation…
    Average $76,000 per year before benefits…
    Cops Pour Onto Streets to Deal With ‘Unsupervised Kids’…
    Rahm’s kids in school; attend elite $25,000-a-year ‘lab’

  51. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    Regarding the Joe Biden picture – Someone on a local radio show said “It looked like a Cialis ad!!”


  52. Cabby,
    Are you going to this? Wish I could…….

    Support Sheriff Joe and his Call for Congressional Investigation of Fraudulent Documents

    A Greater Phoenix Tea Party Patriots Event

    Pat Boone
    LTC Terry Lakin
    Joe Arpio

    Mike Zullo Investigation Update
    Bettina Viviano Hollywood Movie Producer of “We Will Not Be Silenced” – Dems/Clinton vs. Obama
    Tom Ballantyne Author Oh Really, O’Reilly!:

  53. OOOOOOOPS! Here’s the link…….

    Support Sheriff Joe and his Call for Congressional Investigation of Fraudulent Documents


  54. observer | September 10, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    And you wonder why men don’t go for the creepy regime?:
    How Biden woos blue collar women (with pictures)
    What is wrong with VPOS* Joe Biden?
    First, he put his hand on the thigh of a male trooper.
    That picture of Biden and his hand on the trooper’s thigh is hysterical!
    Thanks, I really needed a good laugh.

  55. Jonah,
    When first hearing of this event in Phoenix, I wistfully thought that perhaps it would be possible to attend; but work-wise and mobility-wise it is not going to be feasible. I WISH that you lived here and could go. I’ll just have to settle for getting info from the internet.

    Are you finding the tension building from day to day as we approach D-Day? Sometimes it seems as though things cannot get any worse. The latest confirmation about Rep. Boehner’s refusal to allow anything to come to Congress about Obama’s serious eligibility problems is a slap in the face to Sheriff Arpaio and to all concerned Americans. We deserve better – so MUCH better.

    Ohio is my home state, and Boehner is going to hear AGAIN from me. He never responds to any communication, however. Why should he? After all, I cannot cast a vote against him any more.

  56. WB/CW; Why are “some” of the tapes available to a chosen few? Why are the tapes not available to the public? The trial is over, the feds have said that their investigation is complete…so WHY can’t we hear the tapes???Have you tried WB? If so, what reason are they giving for not releasing the tapes??

    WHat possible reason could they have for releasing the tapes to local “journalist” for their own personal profit and not to anyone else???

  57. The appeal process is underway & there is potential for re adjudication.

  58. Bessie,

    It is part of the whitewash. Blago could talk about what was on the tapes anytime he wanted, the protective order does not stop him. The protective order gave him an excuse as to why he wasn’t. Remember this, what is on the tapes does not prove Blago is innocent, it proves others are also guilty of crimes. Not a chance Chase and Coen were given access.
    Blago cut a deal !!! The tapes will remain sealed along with the alledged Thomas tapes and a great deal of sealed court Docs surrounding this whole dog and phony show we know as the Fitzgerald blanket of protection.

  59. Bessie

    The protective order was an agreed order. Meaning the Judge did not force it on Blago’s attorney’s

    Here is the rub.

    9. The restrictions set forth in the Order do not apply to the United States and nothing in this Order limits the government’s use and/or dissemination of these materials.

    10. The restrictions set forth in this Order do not apply to documents that are in the public record or public domain. In addition, this Order does not apply to any material that defendant obtains from any sources other than the government.


    Blago’s memory of conversations he had in person or on the phone were not given to him by the government. The protection order was a diversion.
    And it was a lame one ! Gee, how did those hardnosed journalist John Chase and Jeff Coen miss these facts ?

  60. I don’t get it. Why are subpoenas of the President by Blago’s defense team redacted? Aren’t these entered into the public record? Wasn’t this a public trial? Anyone, please explain why portions of these subpoenas were redacted.

  61. Video:Choir Director Murdered To Conceal Obama’s Homosexuality/Drug Use?
    Radio host Jeff Kuhner’s explosive interview with author Larry Sinclair.


  62. Re: bob strauss | September 10, 2012 at 10:13 am |

    Thank you for posting this video information. Mr. Zullo said at the end of this interview that he and Sheriff Arpaio will continue to pursue the crimes and the frauds that were committed by ‘Obama’ et al against We The American People & that the Congress will have to deal with this.


    Investigator Michael Zullo – Cold Case Posse (CCP), And The Marion County Sheriff Office’s Sheriff Arpaio’s Email Address & Contact Information Is Here:


    Please contact Mr. Mike Zullo with ideas, tips and information if you have any information you want to send to Mr. Zullo and to Sheriff Arpaio here. They read the emails that are sent to them here.

  63. Some Interesting Articles Can Be Found Here

    From: http://www.MichaelSavage.wnd.com



    “Welcome to The Michael Savage Newsletter, your daily insider report on all things “Savage.”

    Michael Savage offered listeners a history lesson about the similarities (and differences) between Benito Mussolini’s domestic spending policies and those of Barack Obama.

    Savage explained that when Italian dictator Benito Mussolini came to power, “the first thing he did was start public works projects along the same lines as Barack Obama: bridges to nowhere and roads to nowhere.”

    He added:

    They were immensely popular in Italy, because at least they put people back to work.

    This model of massive public works projects was then adopted by Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Adolf Hitler, and again, the people approved of these projects.

    One difference between Mussolini and Obama (and the differences are many) is that while Mussolini was building roads and bridges to nowhere, he was also building up the Italian navy.

    In fact, at the outset of World War II, the Italian navy was larger than that of Germany and Great Britain combined.

    On the other hand, while Obama is building roads to nowhere, he’s destroying the American military at the same time.

    There’s one thing you don’t know about Barack Obama: He is true to his cause. He’s following the script that was clearly laid out for him.

    His calling is to weaken America in any way he can and to strengthen America’s enemies in any way he can.”

    Continue Reading Here: http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/2012/08/is-obama-playing-for-the-opposing-team/

  64. Gianni.
    Protecting Obama.

  65. For some reason the address isn’t coming up right. It is the first article at American Thinker today. It is by Jack Cashill.

  66. Lib Meltdown Alert: Allen West Says Obama Campaign’s “Forward” Slogan Based On “Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist Theme”…


  67. Obama’s 9/11 Proclamation Does Not Mention God…


    President Obama’s proclamation marking the September 11th terrorist attacks did not include any mention of God. The president also failed to note how Americans sought solace in their religion in the aftermath of the Al-Qaeda attacks.

    “But as we mark the anniversary of September 11, we remember what remains the same: our character as a nation, our faith in one another, and our legacy as a country strengthened by service and selflessness,” the president wrote.

    Instead, the president called on Americans to participate in community service to honor those who were lost.

    There was no specific mention of prayer but he did call for the nation to observe a moment of silence tomorrow morning.

    This is one dude for whom the scriptural passage:

    Matthew 10:33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

    definitely applies.

  68. Surprise, surprise! As Obot idiots slowly boil like frogs, thinking it won’t be so bad waiting in line for a loaf of bread when this fraud is re-elected BY THEM, what more than this will it take to wake them up?? After all this was Zero’s and Hil’s plan all along. She’s as responsible for this takeover as he is.

    Israeli Minister: Muslim Brotherhood Co-opting Arab Spring To Establish An Islamic Caliphate…


    Home Front Defense Minister Avi Dichter on Sunday warned that the Muslim Brotherhood is co-opting the Arab Spring with the end-goal of creating an Islamic “caliphate” that would span the Middle East.

    “What started in Tunis and continued in Egypt is ongoing in Syria, and will threaten Jordan and other Arab countries,” Dichter said. “The Brotherhood already has an outpost in the Palestinian territories, in the form of Hamas.”

    The keynote speaker at the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism’s World Summit, Dichter added that the beyond infiltrating Israel’s neighbors, the Brotherhood’s more long-term goal is to gain control of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, where “there is already a massive movement of youth devoted to eradicating non-Muslim values from society,” according to Dichter.

  69. Doctor Diagnoses Obama In One Sentence

    September 10, 2012 By Joel Valenzuela

    Obamacare Summed Up in One Sentence

    Published on Aug 22, 2012 by BarbaraBellar

    “Dr. Barbara Bellar Candidate for Illinois State Senate, District 18 sums up Obamacare in one sentence. Please go to my website and contribute to my campaign.

    I am running against the Chicago Machine and I could use your financial help!

    Go to: http://www.electbellar.com

    or send your checks to:

    Citizens to Elect Barbara Bellar
    PO Box 557766
    Chicago, IL 60655

    Hat Tip: http://www.westernjournalism.com/doctor-diagnoses-obama-in-one-sentence/

  70. Chemtrails….Why spray the skies

  71. http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/10/mali-islamists-publicly-amputate-hands-and-feet-of-five-accused-thieves-in-accordance-with-sharia-law/

    Sharia in action.

    Mali Islamists Publicly Amputate Hands And Feet Of Five Accused Thieves “In Accordance With Sharia Law”…

    BAMAKO, Mali (AP) — Islamic police said they used a stage in a public square to amputate the right hand and left foot of five accused thieves in a city of Mali on Monday, in the latest application of Sharia law in the country’s north.

    That region of Mali, an area the size of Texas or France, was overrun by rebels allied with al-Qaida five months ago.

    Despite a loud outcry from the international community and protests from locals, the Islamists have applied an extreme interpretation of Islam, and have stoned to death an adulterous couple, cut off the hand of another thief and publicly whipped people accused of other transgressions.

    Wonder when, if ever, the whipp-ers become the whipp-ees. Of course Sharia law would just be interpreted to protect the thugs!

  72. Who is doing the spraying?

  73. I can’t help wonder which Chicago political criminal she is running against. Chicago probably has over a 100 vices, all of which are active. Running against ONE OF THESE politicians would be comparable to SHOVELING MANURE AGAINST THE TIDE. Anybody who is going against the Chicago Daly type machine had better have a real bundle and be able to look the LOONEY LIBERALS in the eye and tell them where to go. She will be dealing with some of the WORST SNEAKS ON EARTH. She had better be a really BAD MOMMA.


    Please consider donating what you can to help Dr. Barbara Bellar’s campaign to clean out the Illinois State Senate of the corrupt, negligent, and self-serving criminals who infest the Illinois State Senate now.


    Barbara Ruth Bellar, MD., JD., MA.
    Your Republican Candidate
    for State Senate District 18

    “Your Voice with a Clean Slate for Illinois”

    * A resolute commitment to conservative values
    * No new taxes or increases and a proponent of tax cuts
    * Support Repealing the tax hike.
    * A voice for a balanced budget, budget reform, and pension reform
    * Promoter of transparency, accountability and ethics reform in government.
    * Advocate of small business, job creation and fiscal responsibility
    * Pro-life
    * Traditional Family Values
    * Pro-second amendment
    * Support our Veterans
    * Strong Supporter of Homeschooling.

    “Barbara is a small business owner, physician, Veteran Army Major, professor, and attorney. She can make a difference and will serve with distinction and integrity.”

    “Barbara is a new voice for Illinois. She is no one’s puppet, no one owns her so she can just do the right thing.” You can trust her integrity and personal/professional ethics!”

    Please Go To The Link:

  75. Observer……….
    The saddest and sickest thing that I have ever heard, I heard today,and is the REASONING of a KNOWN OBOT. He stated that Obama can use any name he chooses as POTUS, he doesn’t have to produce a BC,and can be born anywhere on earth,and can be a citizen of any country he chooses. Further he said today that he is going to vote for OBAMA again. He thinks OBAMA is COOL. I think that this guy has a tendency toward HOMOSEXUALITY. He has the homosexual AURA about him. It is UNMISTAKEABLE! That folks is what we are up against. I am of the feeling that he has a homosexual hang up on Soetoro,and/or thinks Soetoro would TASTE GOOD! These people will not SAY these things but you can rest assured that this is the sort of sick thoughts which run in their WARPED little minds. He is a computer repair person. Until today I bought my printer ink refills from his employer.

  76. Good moving picture example of Obots:

    Obama hasn’t submitted a shred of valid legal proof of eligibility for the presidency:



    Michael Krieger
    Liberty Blitzkrieg.com
    Sept 10, 2012

    “I saw first-hand that these regime claims were lies, and I couldn’t believe CNN was making me put what I knew to be government lies into my reporting.”

    – Amber Lyon

    “The Amber Lyon story is just the latest in a series of articles that expose the total Joseph Goebbels like censorship rampant in mainstream media today. The first one I posted several weeks ago exposed how the NY Times basically just regurgitates whatever government officials tell them, while the other showcased how an NPR reporter covering D.C. had to leave and do her own thing out of frustration. This is precisely why alternative media sites are taking off. They provide the only outlets left for genuine journalism.

    So back to Amber. Back in March 2011, CNN sent a four person team to Bahrain to cover the Arab Spring. Once there, the crew was the subject of extreme intimidation amongst other things, but they were able to record some fantastic footage. As Glenn Greenwald of the UK’s Guardian writes in his blockbuster article from today:

    “In the segment, Lyon interviewed activists as they explicitly described their torture at the hands of government forces, while family members recounted their relatives’ abrupt disappearances. She spoke with government officials justifying the imprisonment of activists. And the segment featured harrowing video footage of regime forces shooting unarmed demonstrators, along with the mass arrests of peaceful protesters. In sum, the early 2011 CNN segment on Bahrain presented one of the starkest reports to date of the brutal repression embraced by the US-backed regime.”

    Continue Reading Here:


  78. Michael Savage – Voter Fraud is a Serious Threat to This Election!!!!! Take Immediate Action To Stop Soros/Obama’s Voter Fraud American Citizen’s!!!!!

    Published on Sep 7, 2012

    “THOSE WHO CAST THE VOTES DECIDE NOTHING. THOSE WHO COUNT THE VOTES DECIDE EVERYTHING.” – Joseph Stalin & Soebarkah – Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama II & George Soros, et al.

    Radio Commentary by Michael Savage on the Upcoming Threat of Voter Fraud tied in to this Election — Aired on September 7, 2012 —

    Website: http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com

    Hat Tip: http://www.westernjournalism.com/michael-savage-voter-fraud-is-a-serious-threat-to-this-election/

    * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Ret. Col. Lawrence Sellin Explains Why Barack Obama Is Not In Jail

    Published on Jul 28, 2012 by TeaPartyPowerHour

    “Tired of Obama’s Eligibility Being Ignored? Sign The Petition Demanding that congress take action.”


    “Ret. Col. Lawrence Selling give us his take on why Barack Obama is not sitting in jail at this time.”

  79. Legalized Tyranny

    Published on Sep 9, 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel

    Alex Jones exposes many different subjects concerning the incredible levels of corruption that is happening in the USA government by corrupt USA government employee’s.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Agenda 21: The End of Freedom

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Michael Savage – Disgusting Bill Clinton DNC Speech & Obama’s Ego!

    Published on Sep 6, 2012

    Radio Commentary by Michael Savage Aired on September 6, 2012 — Michael Savage Website:

    A Comment Under This Video:

    “A rapist, a liar, a hypocrite, and an adulterer walks into a bar. The bartender asks “What’ll it be Mr. Clinton?” – Zac6230

  80. Israeli science website: Obama birth certificate forged
    Award-winning, former Netanyahu adviser behind assessment

    Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document.


  81. In every case follow the money; iow, who’s pulling the strings for big salaries:

    Sean Hannity Banned Obama Eligibility And Forged Birth Certificate Callers From Radio Show</b


  82. DNC Perjures Themselves by Signing Obama’s Nomination Form
    Posted on September 10, 2012


  83. Rand Paul Threatens To Hold Up Senate To Force Vote On Bill To Freeze Aid To Pakistan Unless Doctor Who Helped CIA Kill Bin Laden Is Released…

    Rand Paul doing what the gutless Obama administration should have already done.


  84. “The ANDREA SHEA KING SHOW – Hillbuzz’ Kevin DuJan”

    “Kevin Dujan of Hillbuzz has his ear to the third rail on the tracks that run thru Chicago. He’s picking up vibes that a long train’s a comin — The Obama Ex-Pres.

    DuJan says he has reliable knowledge that the Obamas are moving to Hawaii post-election. Mama Robinson sez so. A $35 million oceanfront mansion is being built by Obama’s friends. the POTUS Pad is near the site for the “Presidential Library”.”

    [Jerome Corsi joins the conversation at the 43:20 mark.]


  85. Jerome Corsi:

    “New York Post ad exposes Obama’s ‘real father’
    After rejection by USA Today, Washington Post, New York Times”

    “The New York Post has accepted a full-page ad declaring Barack Obama’s real biological father is the late Communist Party activist Frank Marshall Davis, not the Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama.

    Filmmaker Joel Gilbert makes the case in his full-length documentary “Dreams from My Real Father: A Story of Reds and Deception.”

    The ad will run in the Post’s New York City, national and international editions Tuesday and Sunday.

    Convincing the newspaper to accept the full-page ad required Gilbert to go personally to the Post’s main editorial office in Manhattan.”


  86. Good Morning CW, et. al. –

  87. Good Morning, CW, Zach, et al,
    Campaigner-in-Chief Too Busy for Daily Intel Meetings


    (After all, he has to get another four years to complete the “job” of dismantling the greatest nation on earth, plus, of course, there must be time for some extra rounds of golf and parties, too.)

  88. I could not read this yesterday. Ulsterman was shut down I suppose. It should ease some minds. http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/09/10/white-house-insider-ohio-now-turning-to-romney-polling-data-101/

  89. I sent the WHI post to many in my address book. It is important to keep everyone aware of media/polling slight of hand.

  90. From FreeRepublic:

    Welch Allyn job cuts are related to new tax mandated by health care law

    Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:36:51 AM · by Behind Liberal Lines
    The Post Standard, Syracuse, New York ^ | Published: Monday, September 10, 2012, 4:47 PM | By Charley Hannagan

    Skaneatles Falls, NY — Welch Allyn told employees at companywide meetings this morning that it plans to cut 275 jobs, or about 10 percent of its worldwide workforce. The uncertainty surrounding the future of the Obama health care package is creating turmoil in the domestic market, [Chief Executive Steve Meyer] said. Hospitals and doctor offices aren’t investing in new equipment until they see how the health care issues will play out, Meyer said. Welch Allyn and other medical device makers face a new federal tax hike come January when a new 2.3 percent tax on sales of medical devices called…

  91. Obama’s Officially a Criminal Dictator –> Must Watch:


    Learn about the Obama Administration’s attacks on the founding principles of this country as Michael takes you through each part and how it’s specifically being undermined.

  92. Defense; Thousands of Layoff Warnings Before Election

    Major defense contractors have confirmed they’ll send tens of thousands of employee layoff warnings shortly before Election Day, according to correspondence released Monday by Arizona Sen. John McCain.


  93. Boycot Hannity: He Banned Obama Ineligibility and Forged Birth Certificate Callers from His Radio Show


  94. Lmuha; Around the same time Barack started hanging out with Frank Marshall Davis, his wife left him…coincidence???

  95. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    On this 11th anniversary of 911 I am repeating a video of the USURPER along with John McCain observing the Ground Zero ceremoy. Watch him(O) toss the flowers like they were garbage.

  96. The paragraph is:

    Alex Jones exposes many different subjects concerning the incredible levels of corruption that are happening in the USA government that We The People can see are being perpetrated by corrupt USA government employee’s today.

  97. Good morning Zach, et al.

  98. FAA’s Illegal Email: Vote for Obama or Lose Your Job

    Allegations have surfaced that FAA executives sent emails to employees encouraging them to vote Democrat or lose their jobs.


  99. This isn’t the first time a Government Accountability Institute study has caused controversy. In July, a GAI analysis of President Obama’s calendar found that the president has spent just 412 hours in economic meetings of any kind throughout his presidency versus the over 600 hours he’s spent golfing.


  100. Ginger,

    Thanks for posting those very informing videos about chemtrails. They should be outlawed! If proof of crop failure and destruction of property, not to mention human lives can be established, then Bill Gates deserves to be a very poor man. People are proffiting off of misery that they themselves cause. It’s outrageous!

    I will pass them along.

  101. newsmax is reporting the pizza guy that hugged the kenyan fraud is being boycotted! 🙂

  102. This guy has it right.

    A Politically Incorrect Assessment Of 9/11
    September 10, 2012 By Michael Nellett


    Knowing that CNN’s Candy Crowley is hosting one, I would say the chances of that happening would be about 100%.

    Jim Lowery of PBS is hosting another, chances of it happening then is about 80%………

    We need to watch and see who gets the softball questions


  104. It’s a small world.

    Figures. Chicago Teacher’s Union President Linked to Former Communist Party Chief and Barack Obama
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, September 10, 2012, 8:39 PM

    More Hope and Change…
    Mike Klonsky, an Obama supporter and former associate of the radicals who formed the terrorist group the Weatherman, received a $175,000 grant from the William Ayers/Barack Obama-led Annenberg Challenge to run the Small Schools Workshop.

    Klonsky belonged to the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and was best friends with friends William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who later became famous for their acts of terrorism.


  105. The Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory

    As sold to us by the U.S. Government, the mainstream media, and all the people who bought it, hook line and sinker without a second thought:

    Thanks to James Corbett., Patriot for putting this together:

  106. A word about Hannity.

    This eligibility issue is coming to a head, and the attention is shifting to The House and Oversight committees. This issue is WAY BIGGER than Sean Hannity, and his radio show. The people in charge right now don’t operate lawfully, and he has much at stake. Better to let the PTB take care of business.

  107. Ginger…………..
    Far be it from me to say something contrary to your beliefs regarding the alleged CHEM TRAILS. First of all the alleged CHEM trails are NOT a concentrated chemical of any sort. Rather it is the MOISTURE precipitated out of the fuel as a by product of IGNITION,then being ejected to an atmospheric temperature below zero causes the moisture to crystalise. The trails that you see from jet aircraft are NOTHING MORE than CONDENSATE trails. There is NO PROOF whatsoever that a COVERT spraying program is being carried out by the US Government. This would be QUICKLY detected by the many remote atmospheric sampling labs which dot our country. For people to make such a claim without absolute proof is really absurd and in reality does more to promote fear than does the truth. There are even people who claim that PISTON ENGINES operating at at 30,000′ or better altitude are really spraying chemicals. Those engines also give off a condensate trail. It again is MOISTURE which is precipitated out of the fuel as a by product of IGNITION in the engine,then ejected into a LESS than zero ambient temperature. What is a real,and growing concern is the fact that the amount of CONDENSATE which is being ejected into the upper atmosphere has increased substantially,and if this continues to INCREASE it has the potential of RADICALLY altering our weather patterns. This is all TRUE. There are over 70,000 jet aircraft airborn at any specific point in time ,ALL of which are exhausting high volumes of MOISTURE into the upper atmosphere. The number of jet aircraft have increased exponentially over the last ten years, and at present there is NO TECHNOLOGY being used by any of the aircraft to super cool the engine exhaust before it is ejected into the atmosphere. Our entire earth atmosphere was and still is a delicately balanced thermal exchange system, and continued increase of moisture from a aircraft sources that should not be there in the upper atmosphere,probably WILL generate substantial adverse weather conditions at LOWER altitudes. Most of todays jets are calibrated to operate most efficiently at 30,000 feet altitude or more. So as the number of jet aircraft INCREASE so will the adverse weather at lower altitudes. Pretty much proven fact.

  108. I can’t help wonder what is so wrong with a system of government which suddenly after a period of over 200 years,is forced to hire a FOREIGN COMPANY to tabulate our ELECTION RESULTS. We have done this for TWO CENTURIES,without needing outside help. If anything we are in the best position of any country to COUNT OUR OWN election ballots. Why would there SUDDENLY be a need for a company in Spain(owned by George Soros) to tabulate our election results. This is ALL a real RAFT OF BULLSHI#. Yet there are those who are swallowing this BULLSHI# without even TASTING it FIRST…….pardon my CRUDE ATTITUDE! This signifies to me that we must have a society of total HALFWITS………but you would never know it because all of the OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS keep telling us that they KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT EVERYTHING. I guess then it comes down to being able to TALK IT,but NOT BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY CAN DO. I have begun to think that a hell of a lot of our ALLEGED college grads might not even be able to COUNT PAST 10. It is ALREADY obvious that they cannot discern UP from DOWN.

  109. Christian Family Refuses Mandatory RFID Chip at Texas School

    Published on Sep 7, 2012 by TheAlexJonesChannel

    “Steve and Andrea Hernandez of Spychips.com who talk with Alex in-studio about San Antonio area High School honor student who has refused to wear a school mandated RFID tracking beacon around her neck because doing so conflicts with her religious beliefs.”


    [Texas Students Revolt Against Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips]


  110. …………….here is a little something for ALL THE DO GOODERS out there. I would never be a person to take away your trappings from a life of very hard endeavor. You may keep your 20,000 square foot home, your `1000 HP multiple sports cars,your 400 square ft. motor homes, your 1000 acres, and everything else that you have genuinely earned in America. That is called the American Dream. But in spite of this there are those in our government who would indeed take it all away from you, or at the very least tax the very manure right out of you, for even owning all of it to begin with. Remember ……..You “DIDN’T BUILD” your successful businesses, somebody else done that for you, therefore you should be taxed at a higher level than anyone else. This is the insane logic emanating from an INSANE leader. So in conclusion I would say that the best way to get rid of the INSANE leader, is for thousands of small and medium sized businesses to simply SHUT DOWN, and let the employees WALK, particularly UNION SHOPS. Let about a MILLION more people hit the unemployment line. Soon the big government advocates will be crying that they cannot keep up with unemploynment compensation demands. They will then try to print even more funny money. Had these people read their history books instead of smoking their DOPE they would have realised that you CAN’T PRINT your way out of financial stagnation. Just ask GERMANY about that sort of reasoning.

  111. Hi OldSailor,

    ” There is NO PROOF whatsoever that a COVERT spraying program is being carried out by the US Government.”

    Regarding your post at 10:49 am, I don’t believe the video alleges that the government is responsible for the chem trails. I think it targets certain corporations (in particular Monsanto, in which Bill Gates owns a large percentage of stock). Apparently, scientists have determined an increase in the amount of aluminum in the soil, as well as drastic changes in the PH level.

    Weather patterns are changing and some chalk it up to global warming due to the increased use of fossil fuels. I don’t subscribe to that belief. I think it is due to people of evil intent who desire to play God.

    Google GMO. I’m sure you’ll come up with a plethora of opinions. I myself am only beginning to learn about this, and I am certainly no expert on these matters. But I know something has changed over the years. Darn, it’s been a long time since I witnessed a truly BLUE SKY, something I noticed often as a child. And I don’t think that is because I spend too much time on the Internet!

    Take care friend

    PS- Bill & Melinda Gates are very much into population control, as are all Progressives. THINK WEATHER UNDERGROUND.

  112. oldsailor80 | September 11, 2012 at 10:49 am |
    Far be it from me to say something contrary to your beliefs regarding the
    alleged CHEM TRAILS. First of all the alleged CHEM trails are NOT a concentrated chemical of any sort. Rather it is the MOISTURE precipitated out of the fuel as a by product of IGNITION,……..
    Thank you so much for your intelligent, well-informed explanation of what is really happening in the skies. There is so much innuendo and hype out there in the blogosphere, that there needs to be some down-to-earth analysis, which you have given. As for me, I trust your knowledge and wisdom. There are just too many common sense counter arguments against the conspiracy theory that we are deliberately being poisoned, etc.

  113. Cabby,

    I disagree with you and OldSailor (amicably). Did you view the videos? If you did, and still feel the same way, then I will drop the subject, though not my opinion for the time being.

    Love you guys

  114. BTW, I worked at a nursery for a few years recently, and many customers were asking for non-GMO vegitable plants (heirloom). That is when my curiosity origially peaked.

    Monsanto has sued farmers recently because their crops were cross-pollinated with Monsanto crops (copyright infringements…something totally beyond their control… they were located across the road or whatever, and bees flew back and forth). Don’t know if it’s been resolved.

    I certianly don’t know everything. But if some people can control the food supply, then…. darn,fill in the blanks. We’re screwed.

  115. SueQ…..Thank you!
    I read once that someone in AZ had a lawsuit going that air samples were being taken that showed high levels of metals, etc. I live in a area where there is NO factory of any sorts and at times in the middle of the night I have to take my dog out and the smell of some type of chemical is strong. As I look up I see the chemtrails where they make the x’s and as the wind blows the x’s appear to be a bunch of clouds. I am a out doors person and have been for many many years and I can see the change in how my vegetable and flower gardens are not producing as they used to. I see hardly any butterflys, etc. Our warm seasons should had given us more insects then usual but no! I live where farm land is every where and what better way then to destroy our food supply. BTW…Since we have been talking about it a lot in the internet the chemtrails are not happening every day as they have been for months. Yes…I strongly believe they are controling our weather and food supply.

    Sorry…oldsalt …you have your strong beliefs and so do I.

  116. Absorption of nutrients to a plant is one thing,and the upper atmosphere is another. However EITHER DOMAIN can be polluted,either unintentionally, or with malice of forethought. As it stands at present,there has been a lot of hybridisation of many of our staples. This is because the genetic engineers are looking to improve certain characteristics of a particular plant. Granted often the final hybridised plant cannot even reproduce itself,and to a large extent does little to improve the plant that we ultimately ingest as a vegatable. That is the PRINCIPLE reason why the old varieties are not hybridised out of existence. In hybridising any life form,there are going to be mistakes made early on via false premise,or whatever the case might be. This is to be expected. However until I have absolute documented proof in hand that some mad scientist is out to murder all of humankind,I refuse to accept the notion that hybridising is bad. But just as quickly I add that there is a lot of it going on,and at one point or another there is a potential for a mistake of such astronomic proportions that an entire species,or variety could be wiped out completely. I would expect such an accident from chemical experimentation before I would expect a hybridising mistake. There is a lot of concern that certain plants absorb chemicals that are potentially harmful to humanity. This is NOT conjecture. There is a high level of truth to it. This also parallels the knowledge that fish often have such a high level of mercury in their system that they are NOT SAFE for human consumption. This is also PROVEN FACT. Much of this has been traced to farm field runoff. Some might be from residual atmospheric leachout into farm soil. But most atmospheric leachout is high ph. which is more beneficial to plant life than detrimental. Fish taken commercially from the Great Lakes have higher than normal levels of MERCURY. Even some OCEAN SPECIES also have higher than normal levels of MERCURY…………so who exactly determines what a safe level of MERCURY is. In the Marshall Islands around the Eniwetok Nuclear test areas TUNA have a higher than normal level of radiation emanating from them. Yet the Japanese,and some other governments are NOT concerned……or at least do nothing to limit,or stop the catches of contaminated TUNA by their respective commercial fishing fleets. So if we see a small increase in ALUMINUM OXIDE filtering out of our atmosphere, could it be possible that like aluminum cookware, even aircraft are leaving behind a tiny signature of aluminum. As I said Americans eat from aluminum cookware, by the millions. If it is unhealthy, or poisonus then perhaps the EPA should BAN ALUMINUM COOKWARE, and while they are at it BAN AIRCRAFT as well.

  117. Ginger………….
    I in no way expect you to believe what I have to say……yes this is all my own beliefs………based upon a lifetime of learning. It is an absolute joy to me to exchange ideas with everybody. I very rarely get angered by what somebody believes. It is his/her right to believe as they wish. I have in the past found that I was WRONG about this or that, so I can readily attest to the fact that life is indeed an ONGOING LEARNING EXPERIENCE. But with regard to my understanding of engine con trails, it comes from a veritable archive of knowledge of flying. I will not go into my past flight experience only to the extent that I believe any other pilot would also agree with what I have had to say regarding engine exhaust at high altitude. Many people do not understand that the outside temperature at 30,000 feet is not “80 degrees”. Some think that the temperature is the same as it is at sea level. They are sadly mistaken. At even 11,000′ it is very cold. At 30-35,000 feet where most jets operate it is even colder…..below zero. Jets go there because this is where they operate the most efficiently. But in the course of the operation IGNITION precipitates the moisture out of the fuel, and as a result there is a frozen condensate trail. It is NOTHING more than frozen water vapor. Just as are clouds. But by all means think what you want……….you indeed have that right, and I will also say that this is what makes humankind the most unique life of all on earth. We have the ability to THINK,and /or rationalise.

  118. CabbyAZ…………….
    During WW2 our B-17 Fortresses,and our B-24 Liberators flew at very high altitude. This was in the vicinity of 25,000 feet this was for SEVERAL reasons,which I won’t go into here. But if you have ever watched any films taken from these aircraft as they moved through the upper reaches of the atmosphere there was most always a condensate trail from all of the engines which in this case was a radial piston engine. Both the B-17,and the B-24 Liberators were equipped with radial piston engines. The B-17s had a higher service ceiling because they had large enough superchargers to allow the engines to develop higher HP in the very thin atmosphere at 25-30,000 feet. When these aircraft reached their planned altitude they usually were giving off a pretty substantial CON trail. If the logic regarding CONTROLLING OUR FOOD SUPPLY is BUYABLE then I would have to believe that even in the early forties there were sinister forces at work trying to modify our bombers to spew chemicals all over humanity. While I will not say that it wasn’t yet thought of, rather the Generals and the Admirals of our military services had a mission to deliver a steady rainfall of high explosives rather than a theoretical poisoning of mankind to carry out. Had they began dropping high poisons there was nothing to stop it from blowing the wrong direction and taking out our own forces. This did happen a couple of times with the HIGH EXPLOSIVES. The pilots got the WRONG TARGET! In one case over a hundred GIs were killed. Such is sometimes the mistakes in war. There is volumes more, but hopefully the condensate trails will be seen as CONDENSATE trails, rather than a sinister plot to murder people.

  119. Old Sailor,

    The premise of the video concerns weather manipulation, which affects many people across the globe. This is done by private corporations such as, but not limited to Monsanto. Please just watch it. I am not in any way against corporations or capitalism. I am not OWS! I am against people who play God.

    If you want to discuss aluminum, well it is just a byproduct. I can only say that it has been linked to Alzheimer’s. My aunt suffered from that at the tender age of 52. It was heart wrenching. I don’t know whether the link was ever proven but I know that I threw out all my aluminum cookware. Nonetheless, this is not the gist of the message.

    Again, the video is about weather manipulation. If it proves true, do you believe that any human being or corporation has the right to do this kind of damage without consequence?

  120. ……………..both the B-`17 Fortress,and the B-24 Liberators used four radial piston engines each. This means that each aircraft produced FOUR contrails. Many of our jets have four engines, and yes will generate FOUR contrails,but because of their altitude it appears as ONE contrail. With regard to Bill Gates and his wife I can only say that I have no understanding fo their lives and as such I will not accuse either of them of anything. Further,if Bill Gates holds stock in a Chemical company it is his right to own stock. It doesn’t necessarily mean that he CONTROLS the company to such an extent that he devises and executes covert chemical saturation of America from the air. I believe that there is a whole lot of certified documentation required before I would even BEGIN to believe this. But I do have an open mind, and if I had reason to suspect Bill Gates of such shenanigans I would be right at the head of the line to tell him to KNOCK OFF HIS CRAP or face some pretty nasty consequences.

  121. SueQ…………….
    Yes I would agree with you that NOBODY has any right to tamper with the quality or veracity of our atmosphere. If this was a PROVEN FACT then I would be right at the head of the line to tell the perpetrators to KNOCK OFF THIER CRAP or face some really NASTY CONSEQUENCES. CERTIFIED DOCUMENTATION will OPEN the door but only a tiny crack. Much more is necessary to even prove a LINK to ANY DISEASE of the MIND. My wife has spent a very large portion of her life in GERIATRIC NURSING. She has cared for many such people until they get to the point where they wander out the doors. Many people with advanced dementia, and alzheimers lose all track of reality and/or where they are. They even lose the ability to recognise loved ones. But I would argue that ALL of these ILLNESSES are NOT traceable to ALUMINUM COOKWARE. But as I said before, get me CERTIFIED PROOF. Then you will see one hell of a tiger get out of his cage. I do however agree that there might be a reason for suspicion that ALUMINUM OXIDE could be poisonous to certain people. Just as is the case that your COPPER PLUMBING is held together by a LEAD CONTENT SOLDER, and if you have copper plumbing there is a remote chance that you could develop LEAD POISONING. AGAIN ….PROVEN FACT! However the odds are that you will die for another reason before you die from LEAD POISONING caused by the lead in the joints of your copper plumbing. When I see 100% of the people who have eaten from aluminum cookware, die from DIAGNOSED ALUMINUM OXIDE poisoning (docummented,and certified by registered pathologist) then and only then will I go on a rampage to outlaw aluminum cookware. But what do we do about the CUPRIC acid which is sometimes present on STAINLESS STEEL COOKWARE. PERHAPS A BETTER JOB OF WASHING THE POTS AND PANS WOULD BE IN ORDER. CUPRIC ACID IS ALSO VERY DANGEROUS.

  122. OldSailor,
    Alas, you have out talked me. I give up. Good night and God bless you.

  123. Hi, SueQ,
    In answer to your question, “No, I did not listen to the video,because they are very hard for me to hear.” However, I have read articles pro and con on the subject and would not outright discount that there may be some sinister forces at work in one way or another. But as a priority I do not see this matter, real or not, as something we can address NOW. If it is true, what can WE do about it? Any more than those in northern AZ could do something about nuclear tests carried out, I believe, in southern Utah many decades ago. On my agenda in which I have to prioritize time and effort, considering what I can do about it, this is not at the top or even near top of the list. But that’s just me. We all can’t be involved in the same matters with the same intensity. Love ya’ and your attitude.

  124. Chemical Spraying… Megatons of Aluminum to rain down……

  125. Lots of discussion about Karl Rove and his denial of issues regarding eligibility. I traded many emails with him in the past two years, but he doesn’t reply any more. Here is the latest:

    Dear Mr Rove

    I have run out of patience with you. You are harming America with your failure to acknowledge the treasonous conduct of those who will not admit that Soetoro is an illegal alien and unqualified to be POTUS. The evidence is clear. There is no documentation on paper as to who his Mom and Dad were and where he was born. There is no paper, certified birth certificate such as any one of us must present to verify our identification. His SSN and Selective Service registration have also been proven fraudulent.

    This is the greatest fraud and hoax in the history of America. You are on the wrong side of truth and we will eventually hold you to account. Your legacy will be mud. You will be numbered among those who would allow the destruction of liberty and the dissolution of the union. I cannot forgive you for this.

    I care not for any political machinations you feel are more important than our Constitution. What is wrong is wrong. I do not care for what you think is better for Republicans or election outcomes. This is a time for courage, and you have demonstrated none. You know the truth and have chosen to deny it. Shame on you!

    You have aided and abetted treason and the over through of our precious Republic. History will judge you very harshly. You will not be forgiven, as has Nixon and Kennedy. You have no idea who you are messing with. Patriots will again have there day and you will be considered among the traitors of American history along with Benedict Arnold and Aaron Burr.

    But you know all this and have decided what path to take. May God have mercy on you, because I can not forgive your deception and treason against the United States.

    Bill G

  126. Chemtrails are real. Moisture from jet exhausts dissipate in moments. Chemtrails persist for a long period of time. I do not know who is doing it or why, but it is occurring. Those who would suggest it is normal jet exhaust are misguided are are lying to you. There are numerous current Federal and State regulations that prohibit such dumping of chemicals into the environment.

  127. Alien, gay, muslim, communist, liar, tyrant…

    What’s not to like about Barry Soetoro?

  128. Bill G

    Thank You so much for expressing your thoughts to Karl Rove. I am not good with words and I would like to say that every word you said to him is the feeling that I have. The man is a TRAITOR to our country.

    When we get rid of that kenyan boy fraud and believe me I am praying with all my heart that God reaches people who are in the dark about what is happening to our country we must get LOUD and never give up until a lot of people are brought to justice. First one who comes to mind besides the kenyan fraud is Soros the evil bas%ard. John Boehner too.

    Thank You

    p.s. Tell Rove for me to stick that chalk board where the sun never shines.

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