Obama a Christian?, Media protects Obama slams Romney, Real economy numbers reported in late November 2012, John Hammer Rhino Times, August 9, 2012
“My whole family was Muslim,” …Maya Soetoro-Ng
“A light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come
down upon you, you will experience an Epiphany…and you will
suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama.”…Barack Obama
“There is no evidence that Barack Obama is a Christian”…Citizen Wells
Real reporting about Obama, in print, in NC,
From John Hammer of the Rhino Times August 9, 2012.
“The presidential campaign is still not officially underway – since neither candidate is the official candidate of their party until after the party conventions – and it is already ugly and is going to get worse. Obama, with an unemployment rate of 8.3 percent, cannot run on his record. He spent the $1 trillion in stimulus money to get the unemployment rate down and it didn’t work. If Obama talks about the $1 trillion in stimulus he opens the door for a mistake that he has admitted to making – there is no such thing as a shovel-ready project. So the $1 trillion that was for shovel-ready projects was for fantasy projects. It reminds voters how little Obama knows about how the government works, how business works or, really, how anything other than a political campaign works. And the indications are that he really doesn’t understand political campaigns either.
Four years ago Obama ran what appeared to be a flawless political campaign, but in retrospect it appears that he was running against a Republican that all the other Republicans had beaten when he ran in his campaign mode. It was only when he ran as Sen. John McCain that anyone could tolerate him. When McCain went back to being the Republican presidential candidate, instead of himself, he had already lost. Also Obama could have been caught in the act with a creature from outer space and the media would not have reported it. How many photos did you see of Obama smoking? Do you think the media would have run photos of Sarah Palin smoking if they had them? The media was only going to report good things about Obama and they did. It is why we still know so little about Obama.
The only real source of information we had about Obama was his own book, and then we found out that it is far from a memoir in that he has a composite girlfriend. If the press vetted Obama at all we would know whether or not he was really Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s protégé as he once said, or was he just someone who attended that church on occasion because of its political clout in the black community in Chicago. If he was a protégé then Obama needs to explain when he realized that Wright’s racist rants against white people in general and Jews in particular went too far and he decided not to be a follower.
If the truth is that he was never really a follower of Wright’s, and that is the only church he has ever been a member of according to his book, is he really a Christian? He wasn’t raised as Christian. Neither of his parents were Christians. If Wright did not bring him to Christ, who did? And why did he decide not to practice his religion in a formal manner while president.
These are the kinds of questions that you would expect to have answers to about the president of the United States, but evidently asking any question about Obama that he has not already answered is wrong.
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Along those same lines, it is no surprise, but worth noting, that the mainstream media have become even more liberal and partisan. Back in 2010 and even 2011, with the election at least a year away, the mainstream media were willing to be critical of Obama and to admit that whoever the Republican nominee was that he or she might have some redeeming qualities.
Now that the election is less than three months away, the mainstream media pundits are back to proclaiming Obama the messiah, and Mitt Romney is just some rich guy who inherited a bunch of money, has never really done anything and now wants to buy the presidency. Four years ago when Obama raised more money than any presidential candidate ever had it was because he had the support of the people. Now that Romney is raising more money month after month than Obama it is because Romney is rich. It’s amazing how things get reported.
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One thing that has changed in this election is that no one can argue that Obama doesn’t have the experience to be president. He now has more experience than anyone still in the game. He will soon be tied with both George Herbert Walker Bush, and James Earl Carter Jr., but it is unlikely that either one of them will decide to run for another term.
Experience was a good issue for Republicans in 2008, since Obama had not completed a full term in the US Senate and had never been the chief executive of anything other than the Harvard Law Review and his own political campaigns, both of which are a little different from being president. But this time around Romney’s experience running a business, running a state and running the Olympics are all good preparation but Obama has him beat when it comes to experience being president.
Now it is easy to argue that Obama’s experience as president proves that he shouldn’t serve another term, because he hasn’t been able to get the economy back on track. It will be interesting to see what the real numbers are for the economy when the election is over. It will be a real surprise if the figures released by the government are not revised in November after the election.
I have no doubt that the government in late November will reveal that the economy is in worse shape than the figures released earlier would indicate. Unemployment will turn out to be higher and economic growth will turn out to be lower, and not reporting it earlier was simply due to an unfortunate mathematical error.”
Read more:
http://greensboro.rhinotimes.com/Articles-Columns-c-2012-08-08-212799.112113-Under-the-Hammer.html
Citizen WElls 
CW,
Something that really hit me in the John Hammer article is this:
Four years ago Obama ran what appeared to be a flawless political campaign, but in retrospect it appears that he was running against a Republican that all the other Republicans had beaten when he ran in his campaign mode. It was only when he ran as Sen. John McCain that anyone could tolerate him. When McCain went back to being the Republican presidential candidate, instead of himself, he had already lost.
There is where 20-20 hindsight proves useful. When we reflect on the 2008 election, it is so true that Candidate McCain lost – he was trailing all of the other Repub candidates. Then all of a sudden, he gained strength as he ran as Sen. John McCain. However, in facing another opponent, this time the Dem. Obama, he reverted back to Candidate McCain. He was never cut out for it, and no wonder he lost.
We all remember the bad judgment he used in leaving the campaign trail near the election to go to D.C. to participate in “solving” the financial crisis. He had his Senator hat back on once again and forfeited the election to Obama. The rest is history.
I am ashamed that he is my Senator and am probably one of his most vocal constituents.
This is why Issa is going nowhere with the Fast and Furious investigation. It’s for show.
HIGH-RANKING MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL MEMBER MAKES EXPLOSIVE ALLEGATION: ‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/high-ranking-mexican-drug-cartel-member-makes-explosive-allegation-fast-and-furious-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/
William
…….So, lets ask ourselves this question Pete. Does data exist whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii? Yes. Does data exist whether or not Obama was adopted? Yes. Does data exist whether or not Obama used a passport? Yes. Does data exist whether or not Obama used foreign student aid in college? Yes. Does data exist whether or not Obama was a Citizen of Indonesia? Yes……
Lets do this again, correctly.
1. Does data exist whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii? Actually No. A txt record, unable to be reviewed by the public, likely exists but cannot be verified by outside sources. Further, his records that would confirm it, like his public school registration, are missing.
2. Does data exist whether or not Obama was adopted? Actually No, there is no irrefutable and verifiable evidence that Obama was adopted. The information is “unavailable” in Indonesia or protected.
3. Does data exist whether or not Obama used foreign student aid in college? No such information is publically available or verifiable either way.
4. Does data exist whether or not Obama was a CItizen of Indonesia? No, there is no information that proves the absense or presence of such data.
There are more facts to Roswell then to Obama. I am certain that something happened in Roswell, not so sure about anything about Obama. The government had access to remote land, and incredible resources to cover-up the event, even if not ‘alien’ in nature. Whom has that power, in the electronic age, to cover for Obama! Don’t you find it interesting that they can’t even find a speeding ticket or traffic accident from his youth! ROFLOL, this isn’t a ‘lawyer’ or even cabal of lawyers, this is government.
There is only one other circumstance, legally speaking, where in someones entire birth record and previous records can be legally altered and sealed from the public. Sex Change Surgery, and the State of Hawaii DoH DOES participate in this. I find the CIA much more plausible than Obama being born a woman and undergoing sex change, but it is another plausible explanation for the obvious missing confirmation data.
Pete
Pete,
Simply because the data is “sealed” and not released to the public, such as my personal drivers license, doesn’t mean that my driver’s license record doesn’t exist now does it? If I personally block you with a court action to deny you access to my personal driver’s license, then you have no access to that data, but it does in fact exist. So Yes, that data is there. Maybe not available to you, but it’s there nonetheless.
If someone was to claim that I am a C.I.A. spy for Russia, and attempted to gain records showing such allegations, where would you start for such data access? Who keeps those records? Do such records even exist?
We know for a FACT, that a driver’s license are kept records by the State and can be accessed under certain legal provisions. We don’t know if C.I.A. secret 007 records are kept to access and certainly not accessible under any circumstance. Big difference.
So to put data availability back into its context, I agree that we personally do not have access to Obama’s passport, B.C., immigration records, divorce/marriage decree, ect. But it is certainly data that is there to either prove or disprove.
Was Obama a C.I.A. operative in Russia and the records are there, but just blocked? Who knows, you guess is as good as mine. But its just that, a guess. Again, big difference in data.
i have to laugh when i see the fake mars landing it really make me wonder how long the cabal can keep the lies upon lies going. 250 million miles away. yeah right want to buy some ice in alaska
Pete,
I’ll put it another way.
Q) Does Obama have a valid driver’s license
A) I don’t know.
At this point, I must be able to ask a basic question, does such data exist? The answer is yes. Q) who has this data? A) The State. Q) Do I have access to this data? A) No, by State law. Q) since the State will not allow me to have access to the data based on state law, does that mean the data doesn’t exist? A) No.
Q) Was Obama a secret C.I.A. Spy working as a 007 agent for Russia?
A) I don’t know.
At this point, I must be able to ask a basic question, does such data exist? The answer is No. Q) who has this data? A) Don’t know. Q) Did Obama actually have access to top secret Roswell U.F.O. files? A) I don’t know. Q) is that data available? A) No. Q) Did Obama actually fly in a top secret UFO to another planet? A) I don’t know. Is data available? No. is data even assessable? No.
again, big differences in data collection capabilities. One does exist, the other doesn’t. That is the difference.
New liberal spin: Obama’s a conservative
http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-liberal-spin-obamas-a-conservative/article/2504383#.UCP9D6AknTo
Pete,
I’ll say this even though circumstantial, did Obama’s mother Ann Dunham have ties to the communists? absolutely, that is a proven data collected fact. Did she also work with the Ford Foundation, which did in fact have proven ties to the communists organization? Absolutely, that is a proven data fact. Did Ann’s parents have ties to the communist organization of America? Absolutely, and proven data facts to show it.
But it is quite the leap of faith without data (for me) to therefore declare that Obama became a C.I.A. spy. Th
There are too many other negative qualitative factors that simply don’t add up for me to personal jump to this conclusion.
Maybe you’re right Pete; I’m not saying you are wrong. But for me, It doesn’t add up.
Thinking of my response about Obama being a Secret C.I.A. Spy.
I am certainly not a psychologist, I have however read on many occasions the secret cold war efforts with spying between Russia and the United States. Many great books with facts during this time.
What I came away from each reading, is that Spy’s (on both sides) were cunning and highly intelligent. During times of questionably interrogations with foreign officials when suspected, had the ability through training to convince authorities otherwise.
Does this sound like Obama? No. This guy is a bumbling idiot and cannot speak without a telepromter! What was Obama ever to do if caught as a trained C.I.A. Spy? Ask for a telepromt? He is again, a bumbling idiot. And if that’s the best the U.S. C.I.A. has to offer, then we are in serious trouble. Are you a spy? well, uh, uh, uh, uh, now. I uh.umm. umm. ok. umm. can we talk, because umm., uh.. ?
The best of American Spy’s. Obama… LOL
William, I have to agree with you………
If Obama is the best the CIA can field as an agent…our country is in big trouble.
No, there’s something else working here and it isn’t the CIA…. I think Congress got in too fast and too deep to effectively solve the situation they had created by not exposing the fake early in the game
If they had acted shortly after the 2008 election, the public would have clammered demanding wanting to know why they let the election go forth knowing an illegal was heading the democrat ticket…..the Repubs were willing to ride that election out, hoping the American people would remain silent in their protest.
Look where it put us. America is in the deepest hole it has even been in….I’m sad to say, we are still digging the hole even deeper.
We are 15 TRILLION deep now .Every breathing soul in America has a debt of 86,000 dollars (that includes those on welfare too) to the national debt.
My grandfather told me once as a young boy, “If your in a hole son ,and you know your in trouble…then stop digging” This simple advice has been ignored by the brightest minds in our nation. Any fool can tell you that you can never get out of debt by going deeper into debt.
If Obama was a CIA agent, at any time of his life, that would be the biggest shock our intelligence community could come up with. Without his teleprompter, he can’t even chew bubblegum and walk a stright line, let alone carry on an intelligent conversation.
At the time many were proclaiming Obama as an agent of the CIA, he was nothing but a pot-smoking, possible homosexual, radical thinking hippy running around on a foreign passport, and living off the American tax dollar.
Now his mother, Stanly Dunham, if that was his real mother, is another story. There is no doubt she was carrying water for the Ford Foundation, a radical Marxist left leaning organization with ties to various communist fronts.
WOOHOO…..it’s coming……the CABAL….going down……
JPMorgan Slammed With Libor Subpoenas
http://www.huffingtonpost.com
Pretty much everybody in the world with subpoena power has hit JPMorgan Chase with requests for information in the Libor-rigging scandal. The biggest U.S. bank revealed the extent of its involvement in the probe in a filing Thursday
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/09/jpmorgan-chase-libor-subpoenas_n_1760015.html
William | August 9, 2012 at 2:21 pm |
Pete,
I’ll say this even though circumstantial, did Obama’s mother Ann Dunham have ties to the communists? absolutely, that is a proven data collected fact. Did she also work with the Ford Foundation, which did in fact have proven ties to the communists organization? Absolutely, that is a proven data fact. Did Ann’s parents have ties to the communist organization of America? Absolutely, and proven data facts to show it.
But it is quite the leap of faith without data (for me) to therefore declare that Obama became a C.I.A. spy. Th
There are too many other negative qualitative factors that simply don’t add up for me to personal jump to this conclusion.
Maybe you’re right Pete; I’m not saying you are wrong. But for me, It doesn’t add up.
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How do you know who the usurpers mother is when we don’t know the identity of the usurper.
I can claim to be anybody, but without proof of my identity, you will just have to take my word for it, and we all know what the usurpers word is worth.
William, it is all hearsay evidence.
William and RMinNC,
I hear both of you, but although Obama is a “bumbling idiot” now, and although he was/is a pot-smoker, etc., ( more besides ) doesn’t mean that he is inherently a dumbster. Furthermore, in the 1980’s while we were helping Afghanistan in its long-term war against the Soviet Union, according to Dean M., whose intellect and knowledge I respect, the CIA recruited people of lesser character to fulfill certain undercover positions. Because of Obama’s race and his knowledge of Islam and its customs, he would have been a desirable pick, not as an agent in the sense that we think of, but as an accessory, of sorts. That type of person was recruited at random by the CIA, which was less than the pristine organization we might have thought.
Another thing, although his grades were probably sub-standard in college, don’t forget that he learned quite a bit of the Quran in school in Indonesia. That would take SOME intellectual ability. Part of his problem now in facing the public results from his long-term drug use, imho. A person can have intellectual capacity and come across as a fool, simply because his ability has either been impaired or he fails to use it.
This is not meant to be controversial but simply to add to the discussion.
Hannity talking about anti Allen West political ad, that is worse than the latest Romney smear. Depicts West punching Grandma. I looked on You Tube but couldn’t find it.
http://nation.foxnews.com/allen-west/2012/08/09/liberal-attack-ad-depicts-allen-west-punching-white-women
Cabby…..
In all of my tours in Vietnam (three), while working with the Vietnamese army, I had frequent (almost daily) contact with the Air America and USAID branches of the CIA operations within that country.
The dumbest CIA agent I ever met of either of these two agencies would make Obama look like a per-schooler when it came to CIA activities.
We must always remember the time frame of which some think Obama could have been a CIA agent. Unless the CIA has changed their recruitment rules, they would never take a teenager or unstable young man into their operations.
At the time Obama in his late teens or early twenties…depending on who’s BD you use, and was supposedly at Columbia (where no proof exist), I think the CIA would have though him to be a rather high risk as an operative.
Just an old soldier’s views on the CIA…and I don’t mean to counter your opinion on whether Obama was , or was not, an agent of the CIA..
I still think the VP choice is going to be Newt Gingrich.
He has more federal gov’t experience than all the other contenders combined.
He has more foreign relations experience and as an historian he has a near photographic memory.
He has an uncanny way of explaining himself so that everyone understands. Without a teleprompter!
He got more standing ovations during the debates
He can readily and instantly call out the media…with F A C T S!
As VP he would technically be President of the Senate…as former Speaker of the House, he has a proven record of accomplishments working with both sides of the aisle (now isn’t that a novel idea)
He is older, wiser, seasoned and can withstand the heat.
anyone else just pales in comparison.
From Eligibility activist and author of Memoirs of a Community Organizer from Hawaii, Miki Booth:
Fireworks at Coburn Town Hall yesterday in Claremore, OK (My posting on Facebook)
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/
Better link.
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From Eligibility activist and author of Memoirs of a Community Organizer from Hawaii, Miki Booth:
Fireworks at Coburn Town Hall yesterday in Claremore, OK (My posting on Facebook)
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/08/way-to-go-miki.html
This man is seriously deranged:
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/08/obama-lets-repeat-auto-rescue-with-every-manufacturing-131566.html
bob strauss | August 9, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
An email I recieved.
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Hi Bob,
I’ve received that same email many times.
I’m into genealogy and I have not been able to find any connection whatsoever between Obama’s Social Security number and Jean Paul Ludwig. The SS number that I located for Ludwig does not match Obama’s number. I recall a video where investigator, Susan Daniels, states there is no link between Obama’s number and Ludwig but all I could find for now, is this from ORYR…..
Susan Daniels: SNOPES is right. Obama is not using Jean Paul Ludwig’s CT social security number. He is using someone else’s.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/06/private-investigators-respond-to-snopes.html
The SNOPES link shows Ludwig’s record on the SS death index but I’ll go one step further. In my research I located death records that indicate that Jean Ludwig died in California, not Hawaii. According to Ludwig’s SS death index, his last benefit was issued to Hawaii but the SS record does not indicate location of death. Is Ludwig’s place of death significant? Probably not, but it does correct misinformation that he died in Hawaii.
California Death Index, 1940-1997 California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Jean Paul Ludwig
Social Security #: 045268722
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1890
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 19 Jun 1981
Death Place: San Luis Obispo
Mother’s Maiden Name: Salome
I also have a copy of what is likely Ludwig’s 1924 PETITION FOR NATURALIZATION PAPERS and other documentation.
MORE ABOUT OBAMA’S SS NUMBER FROM SUSAN DANIELS –
P.I. Susan Daniels Explains Obama’s Social Security Number Fraud
There are No ‘Aliens’… only Extra Terrestrials. And just where are these ‘Aliens’ from?…. Please arm yourself with the absolute, Truth found in this video…….. ♥ and THEN please make this VIRAL. The World needs to KNOW. We don’t have any more “time.” The SHIFT is about to HIT the fan…. for REAL *;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oLJNfs_rM&feature=plcp
Wow, these are some great candidates….NOT……
Candidates’ favorable-unfavorable status:
“Obama…slips to nearly an even split, 49-47 percent, among registered voters. That’s still better than Romney’s 42-50 percent among registered voters, but less sharply so.
“Strongly” unfavorable views of Obama and Romney are roughly the same, 31 and 30 percent.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/romneys-popularity-stays-low-obamas-is-better-but-with-challenges/
jacqlynsmith | August 9, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
“Strongly” unfavorable views of Obama and Romney are roughly the same, 31 and 30 percent.”
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Romney’s unfavorable numbers are driven by false, negative, ads by the democraps.
Obama’s unfavorable numbers are a result of his actions, while usurping the office of President.
Whose unfavorable numbers are worse?
OMG! CORSI: OBAMA WAS MARRIED TO A PAKISTANI MAN!…
Tea Party author says evidence proves Obama married a Pakistani man
Corsi says he plans on producing more evidence confirming President Obama’s homosexuality next month as Election Day nears.
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/08/omg-corsi-obama-was-married-to.html
The Fox News Poll just came out and has Obama up by 9 points nationwide.
What the hell is going on ?
Rommey better get his head out of his ass and start showing some emotion.
Some of the same morons that ran the Mccain show four years ago are involved with Rommey and they are leading him down the road to defeat.
I have been calling the GOP HQ. at 202-863-8500 and begging them to do something quick.
PS
I can not take much more of Shep Smith on Fox. I believe he is so far left and seems happy about Obama’s lead as does Carl Cameron.
Next we will hear there getting married to each other.
Negative attacks and lies in ads work because the ignorant people who view them between American Idol and Dancing with the Stars do not read or watch any sources of news which explains why they are lies.
Jonah, re the email. The part about the name of the hospital, and the name of the country as Kenya at a given date, and the race as African, are all red flags that scream forgery, but there will be no enforcement of any of this, I’m afraid.
Philo-Publius | August 9, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
Negative attacks and lies in ads work because the ignorant people who view them between American Idol and Dancing with the Stars do not read or watch any sources of news which explains why they are lies.
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Thank goodness most people watch FOX news.
RMinNC | August 9, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
Cabby…..
Just an old soldier’s views on the CIA…and I don’t mean to counter your opinion on whether Obama was , or was not, an agent of the CIA..
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RMinNC, Thanks for the feedback! I always listen when you speak, because “an old soldier’s views” are very important !
(P.S. Did you ever think or dream that we would have to be having these types of discussions over the man who sits in the Oval Office? )
observer | August 9, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
OMG! CORSI: OBAMA WAS MARRIED TO A PAKISTANI MAN!…
Tea Party author says evidence proves Obama married a Pakistani man
Corsi says he plans on producing more evidence confirming President Obama’s homosexuality next month as Election Day nears.
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/08/omg-corsi-obama-was-married-to.html
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Now we know the usurper visited Pakistan to meet the in-laws, so much for the CIA angle.
What are we to believe?
Next time let’s elect someone with a verifiable background.
Liberal Bigotry
By Jerry Shenk
Regrettably, sadly, there’s a history of religious bigotry in my family — Germans on both sides — some of whom continued to fight the Thirty Years War until their deaths. My maternal grandparents (long departed) never voted until 1960. They registered for the first time in order to vote against a Catholic for president. I thought the family’s religious bigotry had died out with my grandparents, until a much younger, very liberal family member recently treated me to an apparently rehearsed, out-of-the-blue, shocking, gratuitous riff on Mitt Romney, and, more specifically, Mormons and Mormonism.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/liberal_bigotry.html#ixzz236ClijmW
Billy Graham’s Prayer For Our Nation
‘Heavenly Father,
we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, ‘Woe to those who call evil good,’ but that is exactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice. We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable… We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem. We have abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor’s possessions and called it ambition. We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression. We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from sin and Set us free. Amen!’
With the Lord’s help, may this prayer
sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we once again can be called ‘One nation under God!’
‘Romney Murdered JonBenét Ramsey,’ New Obama Campaign Ad Alleges
http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-murdered-jonbenet-ramsey-new-obama-campaign,29114/
The Onion article is a spoof.
Can someone help out here? Was gay marriage allowed back when Obama supposedly was married to this Pakistani? I do not mean here in the US, but anywhere? I am thoroughly confused by this rumor and what Corsi is saying. Is this a legit story?
But who knows, the Obama campaign and media may run with it.
Philo-Publius | August 9, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
‘Romney Murdered JonBenét Ramsey,’ New Obama Campaign Ad Alleges
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Philo,
In looking over the various articles at that site, it is obvious that most, if not all, are spoofs and not really true. So I doubt very much if the JonBenet one is either. That is my take, for what it’s worth.
Philo, Sorry, you beat me to it.
cjzak | August 9, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
Can someone help out here? Was gay marriage allowed back when Obama supposedly was married to this Pakistani?
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cj, I have similar questions and am not sure that Dr. Corsi is on track with this one. He had better have much more than what it sounds like to be convincing. Sometimes single people will wear a wedding ring if they want to fend off others. Frankly, I don’t see what the big deal is. If all he has are pics of two men sitting close on a sofa, that is far from proving marriage. We have long ago taken those pics to mean what they no doubt do.
On the CIA front….as Cabby alluded to….there is the exalted image of the “agent” and then there are the various and sundry types of available “assets”. Obama, with all the radical connections, family history, etc. could be considered as a pretty good asset. If you think he’s the village idiot who would just flub things up on any mission….well, remember, he didn’t have to do anything to be used for the global purposes behind that Nobel Prize….or even the baseless position of the Harvard Law Review….just because he came across as “fair to both sides”…IOW, he only has to act like ‘Chance the gardener from “Being There”‘ and whatever comes out of his mouth is interpreted as fair and reasonable by the trained flunkies….as long as it can be used for their purposes. There had to be some force behind his transfer to Columbia from Occidental where he was having too much fun to leave. Just as long as someone was paying his way. But these days there is too much intermingling of purposes between all the international intelligence agencies….CIA/KGB, etc. There’s that prediction by the Commie apparatchik in 1992 re: the “chocolate baby” already trained/educated at the Ivy League schools to be president which could lend some creedence to the idea of attendance at the KGB Lumumba University during what were supposed to be the Columbian years….a spot also linked to Clinton as admitted as visiting. Wasn’t it rather surprising how Obama had to surround himself with former Clintonites as his advisors??? The KGB folks could have not wanted him to get to be too independent in his own plans…so he was forced to get Hillary a position too and keep Clinton himself in the loop. And then there are all those statements by Obama, early on, of his determined understanding that he WOULD be President. Anyway, there’s so much stuff out there that O becomes a rorschach test!
Here’s a pretty darn good analysis of how things come together….if you have the time to listen…with pretty good advice at the end for all who, on both sides, can easily become pawns of the divide and conquer approach:
Barack Obama: A Pawn For Both The CIA And The KGB
I would only disagree with the part re: the cause of the so called “fall” of Communism. I think that WAS due to the solidarity between Thatcher, Reagan, and John Paul II with conditions that came together with the cooperation of the wannabe globalist Gorbachev. But it only made hardened KGB types like Putin all the more determined to get back at the West, joining various world forces with same goal, as we see today. Enjoy!!
Hmmm….trying again on that link in my comment above:
Well, all I can say is google: Fintan Dunne show september 1 2010 and click on the youtube link entitled: Barack Obama: A Pawn For Both The CIA And The KGB
Navigation was canceled to link in my two above comments.
observer | August 9, 2012 at 11:40 pm |
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Uh Oh! Here we go speculating and theorizing again ! (Just kidding, Observer) Actually, I cannot disagree with your speculations and especially appreciate your analysis re. the difference in types of “assets” used by the CIA. The latter is a fact, from what I have learned from other reading.
Just precisely what Obama was doing while he did not have a presence at Columbia has not been positively confirmed, imho. I believe there IS certainly enough evidence from several sources that he was NOT at Columbia for the full term. Was it you that suggested that someone should get a copy of the yearbook for the year he purportedly is supposed to have graduated?
As far as the connection with KGB, we have read testimonies of former agents that he fits the profile, and, of course, there is the 1992 story of the business man who visited Russia (“chocolate baby” story), etc., but these don’t rise to the level of provability, so far. Someday maybe the proof will surface on its own or be discovered.
This is one complicated, deadly mystery and supports the statement that “Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.”
bob strauss | August 9, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
Jonah, re the email. The part about the name of the hospital, and the name of the country as Kenya at a given date, and the race as African, are all red flags that scream forgery, but there will be no enforcement of any of this, I’m afraid.
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BOB,
It’s frightening that there is so many negative news stories on the net about Obama but the American media neglects to report any news that puts Obama in a bad light. It is reminiscent of Nazi Germany. Are they afraid or incompetent or biased? All three maybe.
Sheriff Arpaio’s July news conference got no coverage even though it should be the biggest story of the decade, perhaps the century. And the Catholic church bringing lawsuits against the U. S. should have been in the headlines. The media silence on anything bad about Obama is scary. What happened to Freedom of the Press?
When I worked at a TV/Radio station, there was an FCC rule that stations were required to keep on file complaints and correspondence sent to the station. A log of phone calls also was retained. I don’t know if that still applies but it would be interesting if someone requested to see such correspondence received over the past four years at the major networks to see how many complaints they received in regard to their Obama news coverage, or lack thereof.
I’ve posted this before but maybe some people who visit here may feel compelled to contact the networks and ask them why they are not reporting on Sheriff Arpaio’s news conference or the Catholic church lawsuits or anything negative about Obama.
ABC
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABCNews.com other
CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml?tag=ftr
NBC
http://www.nbc.com/contact/general/
CNN
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/
FOX NEWS
http://help.foxnews.com/entries/500736-where-can-i-send-story-questions-corrections-or-news-tips
Or if someone feels compelled to contact members of Congress and ask them why they are letting this president get away with overstepping the Constitutional separation of powers! Demand an investigation into Obama’s fraudulent birth certificate and SS number…….
http://www.congress.org/news/communicating-with-congress/
http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
Those who post at other blogs, please share these media and Congress links. We have to take our country back!
Reality Check: Fast and Furious Operation Was Really About U.S. Supporting A Drug Cartel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKzy6vdO3Ok&feature=share
William,
The thing with Obamas mother goes much deeper than working for the left leaning Ford Foundation. The coincidence ends when you consider the very program that she worked on ‘Indonesian micro-loans’ has been identified as CIA. This isn’t like church bells ringing in Italy during the moon landings, this gets into the statistical nearly impossible coincidence. When you combine that with an active social security number, still being used years after her death, multiple properties under her name, what appears to be multiple SSN, and an active telephone number at the Ford Foundation a decade after death, it all seems statistically to unlikely to be just coincidence. Finally, your point about communists in the CIA is not well thought out. The CIA would want communists, to ‘keep their enemies closer’. Remember, the CIA had access to communist, Nazi, mafia, and american intelligence when it formed.
Pete,
Good Morning,
I personally don’t see it. However, with Obama’s family history and ties to the communist party, various theories certainly can and do arrive. I agree with you Pete that there appears to be more than coincidental connections given such history. It is a plausible conspiracy theory, but will certainly never see public light.
Didn’t Columbia recent release a statement claiming the found the error with Obama’s missing year? I believe the claim was a computer program glitch. If true (and I don’t know if it is or not), that takes away the time-frame in which Obama could have been working as a C.I.A. agent overseas, or at least part of the theory dealing with time-lines.
But again Pete, who knows – I certainly can’t say he was/wasn’t. I can say I don’t buy it for many various reasons, but that doesn’t prove I’m correct either. If we can expose Obama on what we do know and get Congress to act to remove him, that is the focal point I personally take.
We need a bumper sticker
YOU LIED OBAMA !
Joe Wilson was right
Good Morning CW et al,
A couple of more good links with Mr. Root.
Breitbart Reporter Charles Johnson Has Documented Proof Obama is Indonesian Citizen?
And this interview:
Obama Classmate Schools Geraldo Rivera About Obama’s Indonesian Name Barry Soetoro.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/08/obama-classmate-schools-geraldo-rivera.html
Mr. Clean,
I like this bumper sticker better:
OBAMA “IS” A LIE.
@William
Sounds good or just Barack O Liar
Also a bumper sticker saying
You lose your Job if, Obama keeps his job
And yet another stinking, corrupt mess is getting buried –
“US will not prosecute Goldman Sachs, employees for Abacus deal”
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-not-prosecute-goldman-sachs-employees-abacus-deal-231341555–sector.html
PS – Eric Holder’s former law firm, Covington and Burling, has Goldman Sachs as a client. Go figure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covington_%26_Burling
Mr. Bill,
I did read that this morning. I am not surprised at all. The same with Fanny Mae and Freddy. Neither party wants to investigate Goldman, Fanny or Freddy as each were the banking tools used by both parties for their failed congressional laws that lead to getting America into the mess in the first place. It simply exposes both parties.
More up is down; down is up…..more of that step of “demoralization”:
Janet Napolitano-run Homeland Security treated male staffers like lapdogs, federal discrimination lawsuit charges
James Hayes Jr., who now is New York’s top Homeland Security cop, claims Napolitano filled top spots in Washington, D.C., with two of her gal pals who were bent on tormenting male employees.
Bryan Pace/for New York Daily News
Dora Schriro
Looks like the Department of Homeland Security could be renamed the Department of Hyper Sexuality.
A blistering federal discrimination suit accuses agency honcho Janet Napolitano of turning the department into a female-run “frat house” where male staffers were banished to the bathrooms and routinely humiliated.
James Hayes Jr., who now is New York’s top Homeland Security cop, claims Napolitano filled top spots in Washington, D.C., with two of her gal pals who were bent on tormenting male employees.
The suit identified them as Dora Schriro, who is now running the city Department of Correction, and Suzanne Barr, the chief of staff for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Soon after Schriro and Barr were hired in January 2009, male staffers were treated like lapdogs, Hayes claims.
Barr “moved the entire contents of the offices of three employees, including name plates, computers and telephones, to the men’s bathroom at ICE headquarters,” the suit says.
Barr also stole a male staffer’s BlackBerry and fired off a message to his female supervisor indicating that he “had a crush on [her] and fantasized about her,” Hayes claims.
Sometimes, Barr took a more direct approach. In one case, she called a male colleague in his hotel room and screamed at him using sexually humiliating language, the suit says.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/janet-napolitano-run-homeland-security-treated-male-staffers-lapdogs-federal-discrimination-lawsuit-charges-article-1.1133207#ixzz239i39PFu
bob strauss | August 9, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
Jonah, re the email. The part about the name of the hospital, and the name of the country as Kenya at a given date, and the race as African, are all red flags that scream forgery, but there will be no enforcement of any of this, I’m afraid.
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Bob,
I agree with you. With the exception of the country as being Kenya. I have conducted research on that alone in the past, and Kenya was in fact named as such long prior to the birth of Obama. In fact, I have an old globe made far prior to Obama’s birth, that states the name Kenya.
You can google old maps, and you will see, Kenya was actually the name used. (actually was named after a Mountain). Now that is not to say Bob, that this is the year Kenya became independent of the British empire, that is different. I am saying Kenya was used prior to that.
Observer, the great thing about this lawsuit is that it is being brought by a high-up HLS employee – James Hayes, Jr., who is NYC’s top HLS cop.
Also, it is a sexual discrimination case.
It will be very interesting to see how this is treated in the courts. Will Bummer be able to save Big Sis?
Pete, cabbyaz and observer–I brought up the CIA thing before the election of Soetoro. Air America (CIA run) tried to recruit me when I was in Vietnam (end or 71 through 72) because I spoke Vietnamese and was working for Military Intelligence. I was a career soldier and retired after 21 years active service. I declined working for the CIA at the time but my military school was on their distribution list–I was an instructor my last six years–and I was very disturbed by a lot of things I saw coming out of that agency. I am very careful as to what I say on the internet. (I’m suspect NSA is monitoring the Net and all our emails with its massive super-computer system in Utah.)
Anyway, from the beginning most of the reaction I’ve received when trying to point out that only the CIA could so completely removed one’s records and intimidate the Press and Congress and the courts from questioning, has been one of total skepticism. “Obama is too stupid to have been a CIA agent, they say.” Yet he is not too stupid to make it to the Presidency? Run the country? Whether you like the way he’s running it, he was smart enough to fly under the radar and get to the Presidency. So how stupid is it that people could think Soetoro couldn’t be a lowly CIA agent? My God! Is that what Hollywood has done to people’s minds? So many people have such a glamorized idea of the CIA.
Anyway, Soetoro is playing a role–the role of Liberal. He is not a Liberal in the usual sense. He is a Shiite Muslim who uses deception. Shia Islam has adopted Marxist economics via the writings of Muhammed Baqir al-Sadr.
The CIA actively recruited Muslims during the Cold War. Read Ian Johnson’s book, A MOSQUE IN MUNICH. And read Soetoro’s own book, DREAMS. His spiritual mentor is Malcolm X. He says so in his book. Malcolm, first a Black Muslim then a Sunni, was being drawn towards Shia Islam seeing Hussein, the martyr founder, as a model. Manning Marable, a Malcolm biographer, said Malcolm was inspired by Hussein, sensing his own coming martyrdom. Iran was the first to internationally honor Malcolm X with a postage stamp in his honor.
I think Malcolm X was more than a spiritual mentor. I believe the original birth certificate lists the child as Bari Shabazz. The father is not named, but Malcolm’s Muslim name was Malik Shabazz. (He went to Seattle in 1960 to found a mosque for the Nation of Islam.) The child later became Barry Soetoro after his mother married Lolo Soetoro. “Obama” may be an identity created for him by the CIA. Who knows?
Dean M.
I certainly don’t know. Given your credentials you list of yourself, it is best I leave such nominating C.I.A. theories to you. It is far outside my personal grasp and research capabilities.
Dean,
Thanks for your insight and experience. Do not put yourself in harms way. I speculate, because no one can knock on my door and say I may have violated a contract. FDR used to say in politics there are no coincidences, and a trail exists between obumbo and the intelligence community.
Likewise, Dean M., thanks for sharing again your beliefs and somewhat of your experiences. I kept thinking, “I wish Dean would come on and add to this discussion.”
Dean M.
I agree with Pete, do not put yourself in harms way unnecessarily. Yet, there be the inherent risks of exposing the government, if true. Alas, as said and cordial to Pete’s comment, when the government knocks on your door and claims they are present to help you, one should run, or at the least, slam the door.
Pete,
FDR lied intentionally to the public about the American Intelligence community facts, attempting to correlate speculation to feasibly enter the U.S. into WWII. Of course, that wasn’t proven until nearly 40 years later. Not only that, but also lied intentionally financially about the “New Deal”, and many, many more lies.
FDR was correct in saying their are no coincidences, he was speaking for himself whilst lying to America and our Allies.
William,
On the FDR thing, you have my complete agreement. Never been a fan of FDR, but there was a sinister sort of brilliance there. Still, to many scrub a dubs on the Internet for Stanley Ann, especially for someone long dead, and to many paths leading to ‘connected’ jobs and people.
Thanks for the kind words.
The odds were high that Ellen Hancock was an Obot plant but I sometimes
allow them to post to counteract their misinformation in a simple & clear way
for newcomers & visitors.
There is always the hope that someone who has been brainwashed, but cares, will have
an epiphany.
I pray that God will rid us of the pestilence that is destroying our nation.
In Jesus’ name. Amen
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