Federal appeals court, Virginia no standing on Health Care lawsuit, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli no right to sue
From The Hill on September 8, 2011.
“Appeals court shoots down Va. challenge to healthcare law”
“Appeals court shoots down Va. challenge to healthcare law”
By Sam Baker – 09/08/11 12:11 PM ET
“A federal appeals court Thursday dismissed one of the highest-profile challenges to President Obama’s healthcare reform law.
The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals said Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R) does not have a legal right to sue over the law’s requirement that most people buy insurance. The court vacated a lower court’s ruling in the case and instructed the lower court to dismiss the suit.
The Supreme Court is almost certain to have the final say on whether the coverage mandate is constitutional. Most legal observers expect the court to hear arguments during the term that begins in October and rule in the summer of 2012.
The 4th Circuit’s long-awaited decision isn’t a huge surprise: People who attended oral arguments in the suits said the judges seemed skeptical of the mandate’s critics, especially Cuccinelli. All three of the judges who heard the case were appointed by Democratic presidents, and two were appointed by Obama.
The mandate has a mixed record in federal appeals courts. The 6th Circuit upheld the requirement in a June decision. The 11th Circuit — which heard the high-profile challenge filed by 26 state attorneys general — ruled that the mandate is unconstitutional.
Unlike those 26 states, Cuccinelli sued on the grounds that enforcing the mandate would violate Virginia law. As Congress moved closer to passing healthcare reform, Virginia enacted a law that says state residents can’t be forced to purchase insurance.
But the 4th Circuit panel said Virginia does not have standing to sue over the mandate because it lacks a “personal stake” in the issue.
The judges seemed concerned during oral arguments that allowing his suit to proceed would essentially allow the states to exempt themselves from whatever federal laws they might choose.”
Citizen WElls 
That decision against Cuccinelli was easy to see coming. The judges are on Soetoro’s payroll. Until he is no longer their boss it will be the same thing no matter who sues. The entire Federal Court system is in Soetoro’s hip pocket,and it is high time people looked around and realised this. This will CONTINUE until Soetoro is either removed from office,or beaten at the ballot box.
Richard A. Viguerie, Chairman of ConservativeHQ.com
“No one knocked Rick Perry off his perch.
“There are two principal tests a candidate must pass to become the Republican nominee in 2012.
“First, the candidate must be seen to be a conservative. Second, the candidate must convince Republican primary voters that he or she can beat President Obama.
“When Governor Perry announced his candidacy, I said he was the only candidate who met both tests.
“There were eight candidates on the stage. To win the debate, one of the other GOP contenders had to meet those two tests–be seen as a conservative and show he or she can beat Obama. And the person had to show he or she can do those two things better than Rick Perry.
“Each of the candidates had their moments and each showed they had a constituency, but none of the other candidates scaled that tall mountain and knocked Perry out of the front runner’s role.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/09/08/heres-why-perry-camp-wants-focus-on-jobs/
Mr. Perry showed that he not only has a strong argument in touting Texas’ job-creation record, but that he can frame the argument powerfully. In a battle of job statistics with former governors Mitt Romney of Massachusetts and Jon Huntsman of Utah, Mr. Perry seemed to get both the upper hand and the last word.
“I know a song that will get on your nerves,
Get on your nerves,
Get on your nerves.
I know a song that will get on your nerves..
Get…on…your…nerves.”
(Second verse, same as the first)
The entire DOJ is in need of a THOROUGH house cleaning. It should start with Eric Holder,and extend clear to and include the SCOTUS. Everybody thinks that permanent means forever. If a citizenry becomes IRATE enough then they are very likely to tell anybody who tries to intervene to GO STRAIGHT TO HELL. If MMMMMSSSSS.Important of the BLACK CAUCAS can use these terms,then it is ok for the Citizenry to tell the DOJ to cram their LAWS UP THEIR A$$. Such a scenario could indeed occur. Nothing on earth is permament,including the SCOTUS. If push comes to shove at the level of the SCOTUS all bets on the outcome are OFF. If the so called JUSTICES have a large enough footprint on their backsides they are not likely to return for another ,even bigger footprint,and perhaps even a little vacation in prison for treason. If even one justice becomes a weak link the entire raft of manure will sink,and Soetoro will soon be out the right behind the judges. It has to start at the DOJ. They are the common thread.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62614.html
Rick Perry, who’s currently getting bracketed by Mitt Romney on the topic of immigration and asked about it on the trail in New Hampshire today, apparently chatted by phone this afternoon with nationally-known Arizona immigration hard-liner Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
Arpaio tweeted at around 5 p.m. Eastern time, “Just received phone call at my house from TX. Gov. Rick Perry. Had a great conversation especially about immigration and other matters.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCDtsojAW5s
Paxson …………..
You are probably shoveling manure against the tide,regarding the poem………the intended recipient can only repeat,repeat,repeat repeat. I think it is a waste of time and energy to even argue with a mental robot,that has a loose screw. The saddest part of it all is that very often I find the robot saying things that MAKE SENSE,and even seem to be well founded statements.
http://www.npr.org/2011/09/08/140284577/new-republic-how-rick-perry-won-the-debate
New Republic: How Rick Perry Won The Debate
http://www.conservativehq.com/article/rick-perry-won-debate
Rick Perry Won the Debate
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/09/07/why-rick-perry-won-the-gop-debate-at-the-reagan-library/?partner=yahoofeed
Why Rick Perry Won the GOP Debate at the Reagan Library
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2034956/GOP-race-Rick-Perry-sailes-TV-debate-Michele-Bachmann-comes-short.html
Did Rick Perry just win the GOP race for the White House? Texas Governor sails through TV debate as Michele Bachmann comes up short
http://www.tjwalker.com/2011/09/07/who-won-the-gop-debate-rick-perry-gets-thumbs-up/
Who Won The GOP Debate? Rick Perry Gets Thumbs Up
After reviewing the debates again, IMHO Rick Perry won and both Romney and Huntsman scored some points. It will be interesting to see what happens with Romney and Huntsman’s poll numbers since they are vying for the same moderate voters. Gingrich was very good but I don’t think he can win. The rest of the also-rans either treaded water or sunk even lower in the single digits than they already are.
As Rush said regardless of who you think won the debate as Gingrich pointed everyone on the stage last night would be infinitely better than bo.
http://onespot.wsj.com/business/2011/09/08/1aa26/why-rick-perry-won-the-gop-debate-at-the
Perry’s courage in speaking the truth about Social Security bodes well for his willingness to frontally tackle entitlement reform, and the opposite appears true of Romney.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2034956/GOP-race-Rick-Perry-sailes-TV-debate-Michele-Bachmann-comes-short.html
Rick Perry sealed his position as GOP front-runner last night after he eased through his first presidential TV debate with a straight-talking and confident performance.
The Texas governor defied expectations he might falter on the national stage and batted off challenges from Mitt Romney on the economy, healthcare and social security.
“Virginia earthquake shook nuclear plant twice as hard as design allowed”
“Then the historic August 23 earthquake hit the United States. Its epicenter was 12 miles from the North Anna plant, which shut down as it was designed to do.”
https://citizenwells.com/2011/09/08/virginia-earthquake-shook-nuclear-plant-twice-as-hard-as-design-allowed-north-anna-nuclear-plant/
I personally am beginning to think that out of all of the (alleged) candidates there seems at this point to be clear leaders emerging. At this point I place Perry at the lead,with Romney close behind. But there are some faces moving up through the pack. One of them is Gingrich. He hit a couple of homeruns last night. Bachmann just doesn’t seem to emit the same level of body language as the others. Although I do NOT allow a diminished body language to get in front of good reasoning. That is why NONE of them have yet made it to the “DEAN’S” list. Perry ALMOST stumbled,and at one point could only say a couple of words…..think…….say a couple of words…think again…… He was obviously stressed which suggests he is unsure.
edge of his podium quite tightly. He was obviously stressed. Being stressed says soe bad things
language does need som polish though.
Old Salt. I agree with your analysis. Perry made no major faux pas that would diminish his emerging lead.
Sorry about the word placements………..some more of the WORDPRESS format crap. Soe means”some”. Also Perry’s body language needs ome polish also. For that matter they all do.
Loved Perry’s answer about executing criminals. Brian Williams was trying to interject the liberal view that criminals shouldn’t face the death penalty.
I think I have a KEYBOARD that is going on the fritz. Can’t get character separation between s and o.
Liberals are also trying to say Perry had a poor answer on global warming. I disagree, I think his answer was very strong that the scientists disagree on the cause so much so that we shouldn’t put huge costs yet on our economy to fight global warming, but they have taken measures in Texas to reduce pollution and improve clean air overall. Asking Perry to name scientists is just a stupid gotcha question that I think he dealt with very well.
I also loved Romney’s answer that Obama is a nice guy, but doesn’t have a clue on the economy, and I thought Newt always does well with every answer he gives, but his wanting to fire the Fed Chairman tomorrow will be a classic.
Tina……………………..
I noticed that also! Glad you noticed! I think that Newt made one HOMERUN, and one base hit. Nobody would argue the point. That tells me that they all felt the same.
Agreed. Old Salt.
Tina ……….Right again! To my knowledge there has never been a hard and fast consensus amongst all the scientific community regarding GLOBAL WARMING. There are far too many variables. It is NOT YET an EXACTING science. Perry is RIGHT. As usual the Liberal NITWITS ARE WRONG.
How about the longshoremen in Washington State holding the security guards hostage and vandalizing property and destroying product on the heels of Hoffa’s remarks.
These folks and the malcontents are about to come unglued at the direction of the Democrat Socialist Party.
Tina | September 8, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
Loved Perry’s answer about executing criminals. Brian Williams was trying to interject the liberal view that criminals shouldn’t face the death penalty.
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YES! Especially when he glared straight at the WORTHLESS demRat WIMP
brian williams and said, “You will be exeuted.”
Tina | September 8, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
Liberals are also trying to say Perry had a poor answer on global warming. I disagree, I think his answer was very strong that the scientists disagree on the cause so much so that we shouldn’t put huge costs yet on our economy to fight global warming, but they have taken measures in Texas to reduce pollution and improve clean air overall. Asking Perry to name scientists is just a stupid gotcha question that I think he dealt with very well.
I also loved Romney’s answer that Obama is a nice guy, but doesn’t have a clue on the economy, and I thought Newt always does well with every answer he gives, but his wanting to fire the Fed Chairman tomorrow will be a classic.
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I agree re: Perry, but respectfully disagree re: Romney saying bo is a “nice guy.” WTH, bo is a HIDEOUS MISCREANT and that is putting it politely.
I loved when Perry said that bo is an “ABJECT LIAR,” but that too is putting it politely.
Paxson……………….
FYI …….There is a very strong possibility of a war within the Teamsters Union itself. I know several independent truckers who are members of the Teamsters Union,……….but they have wives and family members who are active in the TEA PARTY. I am wondering if those truckers are going to allow the DRUGGED MORONS to ASSAULT THEIR WIVES AND FAMILY. There will be some very dead UNION GOONS . Hoffa might be right alongside his father before this is over. He is a COMPLETE AND UTTER NINCOMPOOP. All he does is SUCK THE BLOOD OF HIS ALLEGED constituents. He is a PARASITE.
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/perry-rasmussen-debate-socialsecurity/2011/09/08/id/410247
Rasmussen asserts that the Texas governor right now has all the “excitement and charisma” in the Republican race and could prove difficult to beat, while leading challenger Mitt Romney is an “awkward position.”
And Rasmussen believes that President Obama would be the underdog in a head-to-head race against any of the leading GOP candidates.
Has anyone seen the “Undefeated” ? I do not think it is available in Michigan
With the Virginia ruling, I have to chuckle a little…. The people who are outraged with the “no standing” is finally in our boat. Now they can feel our frustration!!!
Hi Old Salt and Tina….I agree with both your comments. I like Perry’s strength of convictions, not backing down. I do agree he needs to improve on body language….I hate how he raises up on his toes and bounces. Never noticed that before, but have seen it several times lately.
Also, I have always admired Newt’s historical knowledge of this great country and how he expresses himself. He always manages to say provocative things and usually hits a homerun when he speaks. I did come to the conclusion after last night’s debate, that he has seen the writing on the wall. He appeared to take the side of a team player rather than the all-star. He stood up for all on the podium, and spoke in terms of defending the conservative movement rather than his own personal campaign. I have always considered him a great statesman and a wonderful representative for this country. Seeing his polling numbers in the lower tiers, I would believe he is hoping now for a post in the 2012 administration. Secretary of State would suit him fine. Romney stood his ground, would make a good president as well as any (other than Paul)
After reviewing the debates again, IMHO Rick Perry won and both Romney and Huntsman scored some points. It will be interesting to see what happens with Romney and Huntsman’s poll numbers since they are vying for the same moderate voters. Gingrich was very good but I don’t think he can win. The rest of the also-rans either treaded water or sunk even lower in the single digits than they already are.
As Rush said regardless of who you think won the debate as Gingrich pointed everyone on the stage last night would be infinitely better than bo.
To Listen to Mark Levin rip bo.
http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/09/08/some_republicans_skipping_obamas_speech_111253.html
Democrat-turned-independent Sen. Joe Lieberman warned about the implications of another “political speech” by the president to NBC’s David Gregory on Thursday. “I think if the speech Thursday night is seen as another political speech to the Democratic base, not only is it not going to get anything done up here on Capitol Hill, but I think the American people are going to turn it off; they’re tired of that. They most of all want us to work together to solve their problems instead of advancing our political careers.”
South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint won’t be in the chamber because he would prefer to read the text of the plan. Louisiana Sen. David Vitter is going to watch his New Orleans Saints take on the Green Bay Packers in the NFL’s opening game of the season. (The White House is well aware of this matchup: The speech is scheduled to begin at 7 p.m. Eastern and will end before the 8:30 kickoff.) Texas congressman and current Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul also doesn’t plan to attend.
One of Paul’s rivals for the Republican nomination, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, will be at the Capitol, however, and will give a response to the jobs plan in a press conference following the speech.
Georgia Rep. Paul Broun plans to live Tweet about the address to his followers from his office while watching it on television instead of attending in person. He told “Fox and Friends” Thursday morning that lawmakers are not supposed to use mobile devices in the chamber, and he thinks it’s more important to communicate with his constituents in real time. Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh will fly home Thursday to talk to “real job creators” in his district “instead of being a prop of another one of the President’s speeches,” he said on Twitter.