Obama birth certificate forgery bigger than Watergate, CDR Kerchner, Major General Vallely, Americans want Obama investigated by Congress

Obama birth certificate forgery bigger than Watergate, CDR Kerchner, Major General Vallely, Americans want Obama investigated by Congress

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed
–if all records told the same tale–then the lie passed into
history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the
Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present
controls the past.”…George Orwell, “1984″

From World Net Daily June 30, 2011.

“Bogus Obama document ‘bigger than Watergate'”

“A retired U.S. military commander who brought a court challenge to Barack Obama’s tenure in the Oval Office says the mounting evidence indicating the “Certificate of Live Birth” he released in April is fake should shock the American public.

“If everyone was intellectually honest, they would admit those images put on the Internet are forgeries,” said CDR Charles Kerchner, whose lawsuit that alleged Congress failed in its constitutional duty to make sure the man elected president was eligible for the office, was turned down by the U.S. Supreme Court.

He cited the work released this week by longtime Adobe software book author and computer expert Mara Zebest.

Her detailed report explains how the document released in April by Obama as a copy of his original birth certificate isn’t even a good forgery.

“This is a 100 times worse situation in that it is not just a crime of some plumbers breaking into an opponent’s office, this is a crime against the Constitution and all the people of the United States. Obama is not who he says he is. These are forged documents on government property. Before it was a campaign website, now these are government websites,” Kerchner told WND today.”

“Kerchner believes there’s evidence Obama’s placement in the White House was orchestrated, and now that the façade that was created for him is cracking, no holds are barred.

“He’s desperate,” Kerchner told WND. “He’ll do anything to survive. He’s way overconfident that the media is never going to do a thing to investigate [and] so far he’s right.”

However, he said, “At some point the truth is going to come out and the house of cards is going to fall.”

Kerchner, even though his court case did not succeed in obtaining documentation about Obama, has continued with a campaign of ads that probe the issue with question after question.

His latest asks, “We have a criminal and forger in the White House! Why isn’t Speaker John Boehner investigating? Call or write and ask him.”

“This is not a fringe issue of concern by only a few Americans. In the latest poll, 50 percent of the American people said they want Obama investigated by the Congress. It is time for U.S. House Speaker Boehner to take action and call for investigations in the House of Reps of Obama’s criminal activities,” he said.

Kerchner was referring to a WND Wenzel poll showing that even 28 percent of Democrats want Congress to investigate, meaning, according to pollster Fritz Wenzel, “There’s no marginalizing those who want this matter investigated.”

“Vallely, a retired major general, national security expert and Fox News contributor, now of Stand Up America US, said all that is needed to restore the nation is “honest and upright” members of Congress pursuing the goals of the Constitution.

“When you go back to the basics, the Constitution, the rule of law, what we had at West Point, ‘You don’t lie, cheat or steal or tolerate anyone who does,'” he said.

“We need to have those kinds of virtues in our government more today than ever,” he said. “We have a whole gang of dishonest and corrupt individuals in our government today.”

“Where are the honest, upright members of the Senate and Congress. None of them will challenge this president … on the deceitful and treasonous things that they are doing: His bypassing the War Powers act, basically bypassing many other things.”

He said Obama “will say what he wants to say to boost his own image and reelection campaign.”

It’s urgent, he said, that Obama depart the White House even before the 2012 election.”

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http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=317353

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59 responses to “Obama birth certificate forgery bigger than Watergate, CDR Kerchner, Major General Vallely, Americans want Obama investigated by Congress

  1. Dozens of graphic software experts have come forth to prove that Obama’s birth certificate posted at the white House website is a fake.

    IF BARACK OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII AND HAS AN AUTHENTIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEN WHY WOULD HE PRESENT A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????

  2. Jonah,
    The question isn’t why Obama administration committed forgery. The question is why did they do it so obviously?

    Pete

  3. Unless he submits his birth certificate UNDER OATH to a court of law pursuant to legal discovery demands so that it can be duly adjudicated, it is nothing more than tabloid quality “hearsay”. It means nothing.

  4. IF BARACK OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII AND HAS AN AUTHENTIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEN WHY WOULD HE PRESENT A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????
    ————————————————————————————–
    It’s part of his strategy to hide the fact from the general public that he is a British Subject. It’s working.

  5. At the very least, his birth certificate was sealed because of his adoption to Lolo soetero. He is an illegal immigrant.

  6. bob strauss

    Pat 1789 | July 1, 2011 at 11:37 am |

    IF BARACK OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII AND HAS AN AUTHENTIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEN WHY WOULD HE PRESENT A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????
    ————————————————————————————–
    It’s part of his strategy to hide the fact from the general public that he is a British Subject. It’s working.
    ***************************************************
    Pat 1789, We really don’t know who this guy is, where he came from, or what his citizenship is, until we see an actual birth certificate. All we have is hearsay, and forged document images on the computer screen.

  7. bob strauss

    Pete | July 1, 2011 at 11:06 am |

    Jonah,
    The question isn’t why Obama administration committed forgery. The question is why did they do it so obviously?

    Pete
    **************************************
    Pete, the forgers were obviously the byproduct of the progressive public school system. Not quite up to standards.

  8. IF BARACK OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII AND HAS AN AUTHENTIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEN WHY WOULD HE PRESENT A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????
    ————————————————————————————–
    It’s part of his strategy to hide the fact from the general public that he is a British Subject. It’s working.
    ___________________________________________________

    And…to hide the fact that he’s presently no kind citizen of the U.S.

    Otherwise there is no need to dummy up a bc followed up by dummying up a SSN. Any kind of citizen can present you with both – no problem.

    Perhaps Durbin’s recent pandering for illegal aliens to become our future presidents points to laying a foundation for justifying a current one in that position!

  9. I agree completely with all that has been said so far, but the BIGGEST QUESTION IS…..

    Why is why in the hell has America tolerated this too begin with!

    Why have all our elected Congressmen/women ignored their Constitutional duties and smiled upon the USURPER?

    Why have all the federal judges and SCOTUS ignored the Conbstitutional duties and not imprisioned this clownish USURPER?

    Why have all the major media sources rolled over and played dead for this man-child who is just playing a game of being POTUS? (according to what his wife said at a recent fundraiser in MA.)

    Most importantly, Why have WE THE PEOPLE ( or should I say, WE THE SHEEPLES) not taken to the streets enmass to right this terrible wrong?

  10. “Dean Haskins: It Is Time for a Birther Summit…”

    “Today, I sent a letter to South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham via gradegov.com. …

    Recently, I was forwarded a copy of a letter you sent to one of your constituents. I’m quite certain I don’t need to provide her name, as you undoubtedly send the same letter to everyone whose communications contain the questions she asked you. But, for the sake of continuity, here was the salient passage of your letter:

    President Obama was born on August 4, 1961, in the State of Hawaii two years after it became a state in 1959. Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats. As such, President Obama acquired United States citizenship automatically at birth. Therefore, after turning 35 years of age, President Obama was eligible to run for President of the United States.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/07/time-for-birther-summit.html

  11. RMinNC ,
    Very well said!

    May I quote you when writing to my Congressmen at congress.org?

  12. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    RMinNC | July 1, 2011 at 1:13 pm |

    “Why is why in the hell has America tolerated this too begin with!”
    ___________________________________________

    Everyone has been pulled into the “Web of Deceit”. God only knows the answer.

  13. Jonah…….

    You may shout anything I say or write from the highest mountain if you think it will help expose the USURPER !!!

  14. There is a trap being set and people don’t see it. Obama is a natural born citizen. He was born in Hawaii. Both his parents were US citizens: His original name, Barack Mounir Ubayd, was chosen by real father, Malik Shabazz, alias Malcolm Little alias Malcolm X. “Obama” is an identity created for him later by the CIA.

    His mother worked for the CIA. And Malcolm had connections to the CIA via Tom Mboya in Kenya, who sponsored Obama Sr. as a student to Hawaii.

    Obama, with his various identities and SSNs, was recruited by the CIA during the Cold War because of his Muslim ties and because his mom had worked for that agency.

    His intention is to let the problem fester and continue to provoke the “birthers” to ultimately discredt the Right. The CIA created his phoney birth certificate and deliberately did an amateurish job. They did this in the “interest of National Security.”

    At some point he will declassify this information. The Conservative Right will have walked into his trap. To the mainstream he will appear to be a African American “James Bond.” He will claim the right to acknowledge his Muslim heritage and the right to swear in for a second term on the Koran.

    I can’t help but think a latent racism in Conservatives prevents them from seeing what is happening. Whenever I’ve brought this up, the majority response is they cannot see it. Obama is just a stupid n . . . .r in their minds. So, be prepared for the worst.

  15. Dean……

    There may be merit to you position that Obama is the offspring of Malcom X but if that is true….then he is truely guilty of TREASON. If that is so, then he and lovely wife, Muchelllle, should go directly to jail, do not pass goal, do not collect $200 dollars or get a free out of jail card!

    I doubt seriously the American people will ever permit their president to be publicly sworn into office knowing the oath is taken on a Koran…granted the current USURPER may have done just that during the second secret, no media, swearing in with the man-child we have in office now!

  16. The American people had better wake up and soon to the evil’s of Islam before we all are required to face Mecca six times a day, stop eating pork, and be require to beat our wives at least once each day….these are just the good things I see in this religion!

    The bad things are you can get your head cut off if you don’t agree with their way of forcing their religion on you, stoning a favorite way of dealing with everyday problems such as adultry, etc.

  17. Huntsman Says ‘No’ to Pro-Life Pledge, ‘Yes’ to Ebryonic Stem Cell Research

    http://www.breitbart.tv/huntsman-says-no-to-pro-life-pledge-yes-to-ebryonic-stem-cell-research/#comments

  18. REMEMBER

    ISLAM is in direct opposition to CHRISTANITY (choose one but not both)

    Oil and water doesn’t mix regardless how much you shake it up.

  19. HonorFirst

    Great snippet from a recent American Thinker article.=====================================

    I am looking forward to the day Chris Wallace interviews Obama during the upcoming 2012 election. I expect to hear a question something along these lines:

    “Mr. President, your first term has been, to put it politely, a disaster for the American people. The nation is in worse economic shape than it has ever been. Every one of your initiatives, from cash for clunkers to the mortgage rescue plan have failed. ObamaCare is wreaking havoc in the healthcare industry. More people are on food stamps than at any time in history. More people than ever now believe things are going to get much worse for future generations. You now have us in a war in Libya that was supposed to last days, not months. And your own projections show trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see, a situation which you yourself have said is unsustainable. People have been disheartened to learn that you think there are 57 states, that Austrians speak Austrian, and that you are unable to string two coherent sentences together without the aid of a teleprompter.”

    “Isn’t it now fair to say, sir, that you are a flake?”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/07/a_god_or_a_flake.html

  20. HONOR FIRST….

    hahahaha great find! Great question ! He won’t answer it unless he has TOTUS with him!

  21. Unbelievable. If only someone could do something with the mountain of evidence that has accumulated re Obama’s eligibility. No guts from any repub or media person who has any real credibility with the mainstream public. Very revealing info.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/justia-com-caught-red-handed-hiding-references-to-minor-v-happersett-in-published-us-supreme-court-opinions/

  22. bob strauss

    cjzak, the size and scope of this criminal usurpation is huge. It appears they have agents throughout every branch of government and industry covering for Obama and this usurpation, all the way to rewriting history. This goes way beyond party loyalty, this is out and out WAR against the American Citizens.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/justia-com-caught-red-handed-hiding-references-to-minor-v-happersett-in-published-us-supreme-court-opinions/

  23. IF BARACK OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII AND HAS AN AUTHENTIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEN WHY WOULD HE PRESENT A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????
    _____________________________________________
    Pat 1789 | July 1, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    It’s part of his strategy to hide the fact from the general public that he is a British Subject. It’s working.
    ———————————————————————————-
    hrmfc | July 1, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    At the very least, his birth certificate was sealed because of his adoption to Lolo soetero. He is an illegal immigrant.
    ——————————————————————-
    observer | July 1, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    And…to hide the fact that he’s presently no kind citizen of the U.S.
    ==========================================

    Exactly!

    Dozens of graphic software experts have come forth to prove that Obama’s birth certificate posted at the white House website is a fake. I can think of only two reasons for Obama to present a fake birth certificate.

    1. Obama was not born in Hawaii and there is no original Hawaii birth certificate.
    2. There is an original Hawaii birth certificate but it reveals some terribly incriminating details.

    Thinking logically, if Obama has a valid, but incriminating BC, the forgers obviously would have modified the original document to create the fake document. An original would have the certificate number and SAD’s signature intact and the incriminating details would be edited over. However, according to the experts, two of the sections that were clearly altered, were the certificate number and the signature. Therefore, an original Obama BC likely was not used as the base document, probably because there wasn’t one.

    This leads me to conclude that an original Hawaii birth certificate, proving that Obama was born in Hawaii, does not exist. That’s the reason he had to come up with a fake one. And as Pete said “The question is why did they do it so obviously? ”

    The man is a fraud!

  24. bob strauss | July 1, 2011 at 4:54 pm |
    ————————————————————————
    How can all this outrageous deceit and corruption be happening in the United States of America? I feel like we’re all living in the middle of some nightmarish conspiracy theory movie. I can’t stand it anymore! Somebody, please wake me up! Make it stop!

  25. Hey Jonah and happy 4th!

    I remember when the topic of the b.c. came up initially, and Barky said that it wouldn’t be released because, and I quote ‘There’s information on my birth certificate which would be personally and politically embarrassing.’

    Fast forward to the release of the ‘long form.’ Now, tell me what, exactly, was so embarrassing for him on that piece of garbage? Not a damned thing.

    I don’t need a cadre of experts to tell me it’s forged; just by Barky’s statement I already know it’s a poorly-crafted fake.

    Where’s the investigation????

  26. Philo-Publius

    bob strauss | July 1, 2011 at 4:54 pm |

    Leo says:

    “Please archive the information and images before Justia.com can fix it.

    It confirms that Minor v. Happersett was seen as a dangerous US Supreme Court precedent which construed the natural-born citizen clause of Article 2 Section 1 to make only those persons born in the US to citizen parents (plural)… eligible to be President.

    According to binding US Supreme Court precedent, Obama is not eligible to be President. And we are obviously very late coming to this legal truth. Somebody at Justia.com tried to control and alter our awareness by hiding important Supreme Court references to Minor dating back to 2008. This is smoking gun proof of tampering. Please read my full report here.

    There needs to be an investigation.

  27. bob strauss

    Jonah | July 1, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
    How can all this outrageous deceit and corruption be happening in the United States of America? I feel like we’re all living in the middle of some nightmarish conspiracy theory movie. I can’t stand it anymore! Somebody, please wake me up! Make it stop!
    *************************************************************
    Jonah,
    This country will not rest until this fraud is resolved. Americans love a mystery, and Obama’s vital statistics, his real name, his parents names, his citizenship, and to what nation, will all be disclosed eventually.

    If we get every crossword puzzle solver in the country busy searching for the answers, Obama doesn’t stand a chance, he will be caught and brought to justice.

    Just as a safeguard, how can we impeach our entire government?

  28. >>>Bob Strauss
    Pete, the forgers were obviously the byproduct of the progressive public school system. Not quite up to standards.<<<

    Billions of dollars. CIA under the thumb of the executive branch. Liberal media everywhere. They can't produce a document that isn't layered and doesn't have a smiley face on the front of Alvin Onaka! Really! Don't underestimate our opponents, they have already ursurped the Presidency, put millions out of work, stole money from the unborn, weakened the country, and are bombing in 6 foreign countries. So why the obvious forgery?

  29. bob strauss

    Pete | July 1, 2011 at 7:01 pm |

    >>>Bob Strauss
    Pete, the forgers were obviously the byproduct of the progressive public school system. Not quite up to standards.<<<

    Billions of dollars. CIA under the thumb of the executive branch. Liberal media everywhere. They can't produce a document that isn't layered and doesn't have a smiley face on the front of Alvin Onaka! Really! Don't underestimate our opponents, they have already ursurped the Presidency, put millions out of work, stole money from the unborn, weakened the country, and are bombing in 6 foreign countries. So why the obvious forgery?
    ***********************************************
    I don't know Pete. Was the forger inept, or is he Obama's worst enemy?

    I think I read a story a couple of years ago that Obama's forger in chief was under investigation for another matter, which took him of the payroll to forge this latest "document" pos. The forger in chief was from Saudi Arabia if I remember correctly, and was one of Obama's early communication directors.

  30. Philo-Publius | July 1, 2011 at 6:39 pm |

    bob strauss | July 1, 2011 at 4:54 pm |

    Leo says:

    “Please archive the information and images before Justia.com can fix it.

    It confirms that Minor v. Happersett was seen as a dangerous US Supreme Court precedent which construed the natural-born citizen clause of Article 2 Section 1 to make only those persons born in the US to citizen parents (plural)… eligible to be President.

    According to binding US Supreme Court precedent, Obama is not eligible to be President. And we are obviously very late coming to this legal truth. Somebody at Justia.com tried to control and alter our awareness by hiding important Supreme Court references to Minor dating back to 2008. This is smoking gun proof of tampering. Please read my full report here.
    *************************************************************************************
    As usual, these claims are not only hyperbolic but also wrong. In fact, the court in Minor v. Happersett makes clear: the 14th Amendment use of the term “citizen” does not confer new categories of citizenship but only codifies with consistency as to ‘U.S. citizenship’ those definitions already practiced disparately as to citizenship in the several states.
    SENSE and non-SENSE

  31. bob strauss

    Pete | July 1, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
    So why the obvious forgery?
    *********************************
    Pete, It could also be a “Hail Mary”, maybe it is their last dying gasp before the hammer drops on this ugly affair, and Obama is led away in handcuffs. They, Obama’s team, may have been so scared about Cori’s book, they were desperate and reacted in the only way they know how. Put out another forgery, the original forgery lasted two years without scrutiny, this next forgery will take them up to the election, and beyond. Don’t forget, they own the courts, and are willing to break the law to get what they want, the Chicago way.

  32. bob strauss

    jbjd | July 1, 2011 at 7:31 pm |

    As usual, these claims are not only hyperbolic but also wrong. In fact, the court in Minor v. Happersett makes clear: the 14th Amendment use of the term “citizen” does not confer new categories of citizenship but only codifies with consistency as to ‘U.S. citizenship’ those definitions already practiced disparately as to citizenship in the several states.
    SENSE and non-SENSE
    *************************************************
    MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

    [This is a follow up to my last report, US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT STATES THAT OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. ]

    UPDATED – 8:32 PM June 24, 2011. Updated material appears below in red.

    Since my last report, many people have asked why the definition in Minor v. Happersett of a “natural-born citizen” (as a person born in the US to parents who are citizens) is binding legal precedent. The answer is in the Court’s holding that Virginia Minor was a US citizen…because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens. That part of the actual holding is listed in the official syallbus of the case.
    US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT STATES THAT OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. ]
    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/minor-v-happersett-is-binding-precedent-as-to-the-constitutional-definition-of-a-n

  33. Philo-Publius

    jbjd | July 1, 2011 at 7:31 pm |

    What I am concerned about is what other cases have been tampered with. Regardless of Leo’s opinion about the NBC definition, if these folks have been editing our laws who knows what else has already been subject to revisionist history. How do we fight this when it appears the entire government is corrupt?

  34. “Watch U.S. House of Reps Congressman Lance Tap Dance and Evade the Questions about the Obama eligibility?? issue”

    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/watch-%E2%80%AAu-s-house-of-reps-congressman-lance-tap-dance-and-evade-the-questions-about-the-obama-eligibility%E2%80%AC%E2%80%8F-issue-youtube/

    “Congressman Leonard Lance says he “Loves the Consitution”….But”

    Leonard Lance:

    “Leonard Lance (born June 25, 1952) is the U.S. Representative for New Jersey’s 7th congressional district, serving since 2009. He is a member of the Republican Party.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Lance

  35. The two ? marks in the title of my 8:53 pm post are glitchs — I did not type them.

  36. Philo-Publius | July 1, 2011 at 8:30 pm |

    jbjd | July 1, 2011 at 7:31 pm |

    What I am concerned about is what other cases have been tampered with. Regardless of Leo’s opinion about the NBC definition, if these folks have been editing our laws who knows what else has already been subject to revisionist history. How do we fight this when it appears the entire government is corrupt?

    P-P, you don’t ‘get it.’ A commercial web site like Justia.com, which describes itself as a compiler of information available throughout the internet; is not an ‘official’ publication of our laws, or of our court cases. That is, no state has contracted with this publisher to be the printer of record of its legal documents. And if Leo cared whether you understood this salient point, he would have told you. Hint: a legal pleading submitted by a 1st year law student which cited Justia.com as a primary source; would receive a failing grade.

  37. bob strauss, you are buying into the hype. None of the legal experts who has weighed in on 14th Amendment jurisprudence, including the members of the SCOTUS who decided Minor; has ruled that NBC means, born in this jurisdiction of 2 citizen parents. Leo got it wrong. The Minor court merely said, the authorities have never doubted that, such citizen can be said to be native natural born – yes, it uses both terms – while, on the other hand, authorities are split as to the status of a person born in this jurisdiction to non-citizen parents. BUT THE ONLY REASON THE COURT EVEN LOOKED AT THE HISTORICAL DEFINITION OF CITIZEN WAS SO AS TO DETERMINE WHETHER WOMEN WERE ‘CITIZENS’ UNDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT! In other words, the 14th Amendment didn’t distinguish from among people born within this jurisdiction, of citizen parents or non-citizen parents. Born in the U.S.A. and subject to its jurisdiction; citizen of the U.S.A. The court merely acknowledged that, before the 14th Amendment codified what is meant by the word citizen; authorities unanimously agreed, people in Minor’s situation were citizens. Then, the court looked to see whether, being citizens, women had rights, under law. And, they did. So, it figured, the 14th Amendment meant to give this woman NBC “rights and privileges,” too, like any other citizen. Only, it found, suffrage wasn’t one of those rights and privileges derived based on citizen status, as even non-citizen males had the right to vote in some states.

  38. bob strauss, here is the lie in Leo’s piece:

    Since my last report, many people have asked why the definition in Minor v. Happersett of a “natural-born citizen” (as a person born in the US to parents who are citizens) is binding legal precedent. The answer is in the Court’s holding that Virginia Minor was a US citizen…because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens. That part of the actual holding is listed in the official syallbus of the case.

    The judge only said, the historical authorities were consistent in saying, someone born in this jurisdiction of citizen parents is a native natural born citizen. And, as the 14th Amendment did not confer new rights of citizenship but only codified the prevailing authority AND created ‘universal’ rights of citizens as U.S. citizens, as distinct from rights as citizens of the several states; the court just had to justify that, Minor was a citizen, considering both the parental issue AND her gender; before ruling on whether, MO had deprived her of “rights and privileges” of such citizenship by restricting voter registration, to men.

    Look, I am not going to rewrite my post. Read it again.

    How many times does someone have to lead you astray before you start focusing your energies on fixing the system that elected the President you have determined does not belong in office? (And how many times does someone have to be right to given the benefit of your doubt? Keep in mind, even assuming Obama is Constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS; where in your state law does it say, Electors can only elect a President who is Constitutionally eligible for the job?

  39. Every member of Congress even still today are going with the Talking Points Memo from the DNC that states that Obama was born in Hawaii. The All still claim that Obama’s “Long Form” Birth Certificate is the only proof they need. Since Obama Himself provided it (regardless of it being proven time and time again to be a Forgery) then that makes it and him Legit. No More Questions from the Peanut Gallery (That’s us, the American People), time to move on. I still think that Obama and Soros have greased the Palms of the Electoral College to ensure Obama’s Re-election in 2012, regardless of the outcome of the Popular Vote. That is why Obama and the Democrats are not worried about the 2012 Elections. I do believe that Republicans will gain even more seats in the House of Representatives and also Take the Senate leaving Obama by himself in the White House. More Vacation time at the Tax Payers expense and more Golf Time for Obama.

  40. Philo-Publius

    Thank you jbjd.

    I get it now thanks to your explanation. Reading Leo’s posting I thought Justia.com was an official publication of our laws and that is what really ticked me off. I agree Leo should have made the point this was a commercial site…not everyone who reads his cite is an attorney and would know this.

  41. bob strauss

    jbjd, thank you for your comments. What do you make of the attempts to change article 2 section 1 of the Constitution, so Obama would be eligible? I think it is incriminating, and telling, of the fraud we are seeing. Hope this link works.

  42. Philo-Publius | July 1, 2011 at 10:23 pm |

    Thank you jbjd.

    I get it now thanks to your explanation. Reading Leo’s posting I thought Justia.com was an official publication of our laws and that is what really ticked me off. I agree Leo should have made the point this was a commercial site…not everyone who reads his cite is an attorney and would know this.

    P-P, you are welcome. (Now that you know Justia is just a commercial web site that compiles other public information; and that, as a commercial enterprise, its decision to manipulate its web site in whatever way it sees fit, is completely commonplace; let me ask you. What do you suppose is the purpose of posting such alarmist warnings as, ‘Archive the web page because they are trying to hide this “dangerous” ruling’?)

  43. Philo-Publius

    jbjd | July 1, 2011 at 10:45 pm |

    (Now that you know Justia is just a commercial web site that compiles other public information; and that, as a commercial enterprise, its decision to manipulate its web site in whatever way it sees fit, is completely commonplace; let me ask you. What do you suppose is the purpose of posting such alarmist warnings as, ‘Archive the web page because they are trying to hide this “dangerous” ruling’?)

    —————————
    Draw attention to his argument that MINOR is precedent for defining NBC and that the removal of references to MINOR in other cases supports that argument.

  44. jacqlynsmith

    VKD: DON’T GO FAR FROM HOME ON THE 4th: THE AMERICAN JUDICARY RULED FDR’S “UNCONSTITUTIONAL” RE: Execuctive Order 13575

    Posted By: watcher51445
    Date: Friday, 1-Jul-2011 15:26:07

    VKD: GOT A GUT FEELING SOMETHINGS UP. DON’T GO FAR FROM HOME OVER THE 4th. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND ISSUES EXECUTIVE ORDERS SUCH AS THESE THAT HAVE BEEN COMING OUT OF THE “COUNCIL ON FOREIGH RELATIONS LATELY”..]

    WE DO NOT SO READ THE CONSTITUTION whereby the Executive can circumvent THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, by the American Constitutional Process of Lawful Constitutional Government issue these so called executive orders intending to ‘enslave the We, the People’ by despotic, oppressive, executive orders by a president alleged to be ‘not qualified’ for the Office of the President of the United States, while the nation is run at the direction of the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS as alleged by the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Caught her on YouTube, posted it on RMNews http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=208496

    Execuctive Order 13575 “RURAL COUNCILS” Agenda 21 NWO

    READ MORE:
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=208592
    ————————————————————

    I sent that “jewell” out to my email tree for everyone else to send out on their email tree…

    THE CAMPBELLS response which pretty well sums the rest of the response’s up: Thanks for sending. This is a recent reiteration of Roosevelt’s Rural Emergency Act of 1933 in support of his Emergency Powers Act that has rendered us unwitting slaves since that time.

  45. “Congressman Bill Cassidy Changes the Subject on Obama Eligibility”

    “The following letter was sent to Louisiana Rep. Bill Cassidy. I found his response remarkably off-point.”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/07/01/congressman-bill-cassidy-changes-the-subject-on-obama-eligibility/
    =========================
    Bill Cassidy:

    “William “Bill” Cassidy (born September 28, 1957) is the U.S. Representative for Louisiana’s 6th congressional district, serving since 2009. He is a member of the Republican Party.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cassidy

  46. jacqlynsmith

    Of course we lovers of the constitution already know this but here is yet another article focused on the FRAUD going on in our country…..

    WND Exclusive CERTIFIGATE
    Bogus Obama document ‘bigger than Watergate’
    ‘Not just a crime of some plumbers breaking into an opponent’s office

    A retired U.S. military commander who brought a court challenge to Barack Obama’s tenure in the Oval Office says the mounting evidence indicating the “Certificate of Live Birth” he released in April is fake should shock the American public.

    “If everyone was intellectually honest, they would admit those images put on the Internet are forgeries,” said CDR Charles Kerchner, whose lawsuit that alleged Congress failed in its constitutional duty to make sure the man elected president was eligible for the office, was turned down by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Continues here…..

    Read more: Bogus Obama document ‘bigger than Watergate’ http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=317353#ixzz1QvMFvDJ1

  47. In that context,unless you was in the courtroom during Minor vs Hapersett you have only RECORDS and word of mouth from which to draw conclusions. If anyone can find the original scripture of the ruling of Minor vs Happersett, then you MIGHT have the correct language. All else is literally hearsay,and/or someone’s INTERPRETATION. Look at the original script as written by by the court.

  48. oldsalt79 | July 2, 2011 at 1:28 am |

    In that context,unless you was in the courtroom during Minor vs Hapersett you have only RECORDS and word of mouth from which to draw conclusions. If anyone can find the original scripture of the ruling of Minor vs Happersett, then you MIGHT have the correct language. All else is literally hearsay,and/or someone’s INTERPRETATION. Look at the original script as written by by the court.
    **********************************************************************************
    And, unlike my antagonists, it is precisely the actual record which is the basis for any of my conclusions about Minor or any other case. Indeed, if you had reviewed the record, that is, If you had bothered to visit my blog, you would have seen not only the court’s case syllabus but also, full quotes from the original decision and not just portions of quotes which appear elsewhere; as well as links to the original documents. Of course, this treatment of the subject is only consistent with the voluminous record of original work I have produced and posted over the internet for the past 3 years.

  49. I don’t get the argument the Law Student is making,other than she wants some kind of recognition for her blog.
    Leo’s interpretation of Minor is dead on,

  50. July 2, 2011

    ‘Natural Born Citizen for Dummies’ v. Dummy v. the United States of America

    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/williams/110702

  51. Philo-Publius

    Pat 1789 | July 2, 2011 at 7:19 am |

    I don’t get the argument the Law Student is making,other than she wants some kind of recognition for her blog.
    Leo’s interpretation of Minor is dead on,

    ————————————–
    jbjd is an excellent researcher and does quality work. jbjd’s latest posting makes a very good argument which differs from Leo’s. Presenting that argument in contrast to Leo’s is not a desire for recognition but a desire for the truth. If we as patriots do not allow or are not open to such opposing views, then we are no better than those who attempt to shut down debate and discussion for political ideology.

  52. CW and fellow posters,
    I am re-thinking my position on the Obama long form document, just released in April. Please consider the following.

    I have noticed, both on WND and in other news sites, that the person on Fox news that they quoted as validity that the long form was not altered, he has stated that he was misquoted. Also, to my knowledge, this is the ONLY person whom was quoted as having said it isn’t a tampered image. Thus, there is no verification of non-tampering. However, it’s like proving a negative.
    I’m looking for facts that back that the Obama long form Birth Certificate is NOT a forgery. There are already volumes of evidence that it is a digital image construct, not the least of which is the smiley face on the front ‘A’ of Alvin Onaka’s signature. There is a profound paucity of proof of authenticity that I can find for this particular document; No statement by DoH of original content. No allowing people to get copy of original document which is now public. No released transaction history. No statement by the Hawaiian DoH that they released said document. I’m looking for support, not hearsay, which provides a chain of evidence that this isn’t some grand forgery or desperate lie, for this document.
    Best way to kill conspiracy theory is with forthright facts. So I am asking everyone here for evidence that confirms that this is a ‘true and correct’ document. Specifically, I’m not looking for hearsay evidence or biased political websites analysis (JBJD has stated that political websites can lie without legal recourse such as Factcheck), just hard facts of authenticity that can be verified by anyone. The state of Hawaii and DoH has a legal obligation to verify this document as original, if it is, with no double talk about records on file. I’m looking for that verification that the document is original and the proof of purchase (copy of receipt). Simple, and should settle the issue for me and I’m very skeptical about authenticity.
    Thanks everyone for your prior posting that you can’t prove the document (since digital) is true and original. Unfortunately, you can provide evidence that it is a fraud much simpler than verification. I also agree that the political motivations are clouding the reality of the research, on both sides. I have decided to attempt to open my mind and look for evidence that my previous conclusions are wrong, and ask everyone else to do the same. There should be an easy to follow chain of evidence to follow for this document, since the controversy has reached the highest level of government.

    So, like the facts or not, can we demonstrate any evidence that this is an authentic document?

    Pete

  53. edit
    Oh boy another doc analysis.

  54. @ Philo-Publius | July 2, 2011 at 8:09 am |
    The law student called Leo a Liar. That is not an argument, it’s a personal attack. I have no use for her opinions or her research.

  55. Sole alligiance to the USA is the requirement to become CIC of the American Army. Those with dual citizenship are not eligible. Is the Barack Hussein Obama Cultural Center built yet? In the village of his birth? (Kenya) During this 4th weekend, every conversation should be discussing the crime commited on We The People. Stay safe, God Bless.

  56. Pat 1789 | July 2, 2011 at 8:39 am |

    @ Philo-Publius | July 2, 2011 at 8:09 am |
    The law student called Leo a Liar. That is not an argument, it’s a personal attack. I have no use for her opinions or her research.
    ***************************************************************************
    As I explained in the article I posted on my blog, rejecting ‘Leo’s’ analysis of Minor; someone submitted a comment to my blog and, my article was a response to his comment. At that time, I had no idea that Leo had written another post championing the flawed legal argument in that comment; or that, the author of that comment, evidently having adopted Leo’s argument, had posted this elsewhere.

    Believing in a false premise, that is, a legally binding definition of NBC exists; only allows you, as a citizen, to avoid doing the hard work to establish standards for ensuring Constitutionally eligible candidates run for federal office. It also allows you to relegate the hard work of fixing this system, to an internet pundit whose multiple infirm legal filings have been rejected, time and time again, by the court. And, when that happens, instead of rationally examining the basis for those rejections, only excoriates the court as part of some greater ‘conspiracy.’

    Oh, and then there was that time I again disagreed with his legal opinion, and he emailed nasty personal remarks to me, which I posted on my blog in an attempt to forestall further harassment…

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