Glenn Beck and Obama profess Christianity but act otherwise, No righteous indignation from Beck, Beck attacks Trump and millions of Americans, Glenn Beck call me

Glenn Beck and Obama profess Christianity but act otherwise, No righteous indignation from Beck, Beck attacks Trump and millions of Americans, Glenn Beck call me

“Why has Obama, since taking the White House, used Justice Department Attorneys, at taxpayer expense,  to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans

“What do Glenn Beck and Barack Obama have in common? They both have attacked Americans questioning Obama’s eligibility and they both profess to be Christians but act otherwise.”…Citizen Wells

“And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,”…Matthew 21:12

I typically listen to the Glenn Beck Radio Show when I am driving, running errands. Today was such a day. I never know which Glenn Beck will show up. The serious Glenn Beck who speaks of God and takes on just causes or the attacking clown Glenn Beck, the one who showed up today to attack Donald Trump’s questioning of Obama’s eligibility and Trump’s religious beliefs. I posted this comment earlier today.

“Anybody catch the Beck radio show this AM?
One never knows which Beck will show up.
What I heard this morning was one of the more disgusting things I have ever witnessed on radio.
Beck and his lackeys ridiculed Trump on his religion and stance on Obama’s birth certificate.
If Beck is a Christian, I could find no manifestation of it this AM.
I will address this in an article.
I am going to let Beck have it.”

Commenter charo had this to say.

“I heard that also and it was disgusting.  Did you notice that he ridiculed Trump for saying he was sent Bibles and that keeps in a special place or gives them away, and then Beck himself said that he has been sent Bibles that he keeps along with other stuff in his own special place and also gives some away?  I know this sounds weird, but if you heard it, you’ll know what I mean.”

Commenter Mr.Bill.

“Beck and ALL of them are trying to cover-up something . ALL POLITICIANS-ALL MSM-ALL JUSTICES – BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES- ALL ELITISTS-ALL NON-BIRTHERS- ALL HOLLYWOOD except 1. ALL EXCEPT DONALD TRUMP. GO DONALD GO.”

Many have debated what religion Barack Obama follows. Since Obama is a narcissist, he worships himself and a mirror is his temple. He has been most influenced by Islam. Glenn Beck, as Obama, professes to be a Christian. I am certain that you, as  I, have known many people who attend church and profess to be Christian but their actions are not consistent with Christ’s teachings. And that includes righteous indignation, the example that Christ gave in response to the moneychangers in the temple. In my humble opinion, Donald Trump, by speaking out against lies and misrepresentations from the Obama camp, is providing a better example of righteous indignation and Christianity than Beck ever has. Glenn Beck has attacked Donald Trump and millions of concerned Americans for doing their patriotic duty. That is just wrong and non Christian.

Glenn Beck, I am calling you out. You owe Donald Trump and millions of Americans an apology. And I believe you must get right with God.

Wells

268 responses to “Glenn Beck and Obama profess Christianity but act otherwise, No righteous indignation from Beck, Beck attacks Trump and millions of Americans, Glenn Beck call me

  1. CitizenWElls's avatar citizenwells

    Help get this in front of Glenn Beck.
    I will confront him.
    Enough is enough.
    Wells

  2. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    The bold font is just a website glitch; don;t let it distract us from what we are doing, its not gonna kill us to keep on keepin’ on here. We’ll have harder battles to fight coming up, if we can’t put up with a minor inconsequential problem, what good will we be later?

  3. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    GLEN BECK: CALL CITIZEN WELLS!!!!!

  4. Obama Using Stolen Social Security Number(video)

  5. Forms and Charges to INDICT BHO for his CRIMES

    Demand that your congressman, senators, County Sheriff, DA, State Legislators, Governor, and County Grand Jury Foreman indict and prosecute BO and his local co-conspirators in State Courts for their crimes

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

  6. Rob | April 12, 2011 at 3:29 pm |

    Thanks Rob.

  7. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    CW – Thank you for using my comment. I praise you for giving me mention in my changing the name of Washington, D.C. to “USURPERVILLE”.
    I think the real argument you should use on Glen Beck is the same one he uses on George Soros. He says he is still waiting , with the phone, to hear from him. Well(AsRR would say), you are still waiting to hear from Glen Beck. What’s Good For The Goose, Is Goood For The Gander!

    PS – I like it better without the bold face.

    HONESTY TRUMPS CORRUPTION

  8. Pat 1789 | April 12, 2011 at 2:38 pm |

    Free Speech | April 12, 2011 at 1:36 pm |

    Boehner is destroying the repub party and paving the way for big dem victories in 2012.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    I fear you are right, he needs to be removed as speaker. He is a failure.
    The Country does not have time for another failure like BHO.
    ============================================
    Ditto, if repubs don’t replace him with a true conservative, the repub party will probably have big losses in 2012 in the Presidential and Congressional elections.

  9. From: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/opinion/lweb08trump.html?_r=4

    Donald Trump Responds In A Letter
    Published: April 8, 2011

    “To the Editor:

    Re “Donald Trump Gets Weirder,” by Gail Collins (column, April 2):

    Even before Gail Collins was with the New York Times, she has written nasty and derogatory articles about me. Actually, I have great respect for Ms. Collins in that she has survived so long with so little talent. Her storytelling ability and word usage (coming from me, who has written many bestsellers), is not at a very high level. More importantly, her facts are wrong!

    As far as her comments on the so-called “birther” issue, I don’t need Ms. Collins’s advice. There is a very large segment of our society who believe that Barack Obama, indeed, was not born in the United States. His grandmother from Kenya stated, on tape, that he was born in Kenya and she was there to watch the birth. His family in Honolulu is fighting over which hospital in Hawaii he was born in-they just don’t know.

    He has not been able to produce a “birth certificate” but merely a totally unsigned “certificate of live birth”-which is totally different and of very little significance. Unlike a birth certificate, a certificate of live birth is very easy to obtain. Equally of importance, there are no records in Hawaii that a Barack Hussein Obama was born there-no bills, no doctors names, no nurses names, no registrations, no payments, etc. As far as the two notices placed in newspapers, many things could have happened, but some feel the grandparents put an ad in order to show that he was a citizen of the U.S. with all of the benefits thereto. Everybody, after all, and especially then, wanted to be a United States citizen.

    The term used by Ms. Collins-“birther”-is very derogatory and is meant in a derogatory way. Had this been George Bush or almost any other President or Presidential aspirant, they would never have been allowed to attain office, or would have been thrown out of office very quickly.

    For some reason, the press protects President Obama beyond anything or anyone I have ever seen. What they don’t realize is that if he was not born in the United States, they would have uncovered the greatest “scam” in the history of our country. In other words, they would become the hottest writer since Watergate, or beyond.

    Open your eyes, Gail, there’s at least a good chance that Barack Hussein Obama has made mincemeat out of our great and cherished Constitution!

    DONALD J. TRUMP
    New York, April 7, 2011″

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

  10. Renee’s comment about repubs switching to independents.

    Zero and Counting (Open Thread)

  11. Renee | April 12, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Reply

    Amazing…and I heard ALOT of unsatisfied Dems AND Repubs may be switching to independents too….hummmm…stuff happens when you poke people too many times, ignore them, fraud them, steal from them, lie to them…..looks like they did it to themselves…

  12. Mortrey | April 12, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    Update: Breaking from Hawaii: No More Long-Form Birth Certificates!

    Update: Breaking from Hawaii: No More Long-Form Birth Certificates!

    ========================================
    Get a load of this State of Hawaii is no longer releasing any Long Form Birth Certificates.

  13. More Reported Judicial Tyranny in Tennessee

    John Sutherland says:
    Saturday, March 26, 2011 at 9:31 AM
    “While his situation is trajic, this kind of behavior by officials has become to “norm” for not only the Tennessee Judiciary, but the entire U.S. It’s commonly known as “Prisoners For Profit” the United States #1 industry.”

    From my own experience, I believe this statement is true. It’s all a part of our runaway and lawless government.

    Tuesday, April 12, 2011 at 3:59 PM
    The For Profit Prison Corporation, Corrections Corporation of America is headquartered in Nashville, TN.

  14. In spite of Soetoro having an alleged billion dollars to spend to BUY the presidency, he is going to discover in 2012 that money CAN’T BUY EVERYTHING.First of all anybody who is reliant upon the money of FOREIGNERS to buy his position is the lowest lfe form on earth, and without a doubt one of the foreigners himself. Otherwise he would never spent over a million dollars to HIDE his records. Simple math.. The DNC,and the Soetoro campaign like to LIE about anything, and everything. In 2012 his paid GOONS are going to receive political KNUCKLE SANDWICHES, and when the dust clears Soetoro,and company will be history. His goons will be licking their wounds. Of course his GOONS are well experienced at “LICKING”things.

  15. IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!!!

    From: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/new-york-times-columnist-gail-collins.html

    “puzo1moderator said…

    For people wishing to send information to Donald Trump’s top adviser and lawyer to pass along to Donald Trump, I suggest you attach an executive summary cover page to each enclosure telling him exactly what page to read the statements in that enclosure you want to call to their attention and highlight those lines with yellow highlighter. Yellow will not block out text when making copies at their end, if they so desire, such as pink or other color highlighters do with copiers sometimes. Try not to send too many documents and address too many issues in one packet, 2 or 3 at most, and prepare an executive summary page, 1/2 page of text for the summary cover page for each enclosure, for what you are sending … along with your cover letter to The Donald.

    Send the package by some sort of next day or 2nd day service such that you know it gets delivered promptly and you can easily track it.

    Michael D. Cohen
    Executive Vice President and
    Special Counsel to Donald J. Trump
    The Trump Organization
    725 Fifth Avenue
    New York, NY 10022

    CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
    http://www.protectourliberty.org

    April 9, 2011 8:56 AM”

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

  16. I think that for Hawaii to attempt to withdraw the right of anyone holding valid birth rights will not fly in an honest court of law. People who were born there and hold a valid long form BC have a right to receive copies odf it. I would sue the living hell out of any body who attempted to restrict me from receiving a copy of my BC. This sounds like something “BOSS HOGG” came up with

  17. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    CW – I wrote this back in January –

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

    This morning I watching “Morning Joe”(someone has to) and they interviewed Jimmy Wales the founder of Wikipedia. He was celebrating one of its’ anniversaries. Then right after or before they started talking about John Huntsman,Jr as a possible presidential candidate for the Democrat Party. So I wikied up John Huntsman, Jr, and got the following – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr. He was selected and confirmed to be and is the U.S. Ambassador to China by Barack Obama. Now it gets more interesting. His father Jon Huntsman Sr. – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Sr. – NOW IT REALLY GETS INTERESTING. THIS IS GLENN BECK’S BUD. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=17259,17291,17311,27342,27615,27846,27894,27955,28093&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=Glenn+Beck+%2B+john+huntsman+%2Csr&cp=30&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=Glenn+Beck+%2B+john+huntsman+,sr&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=83f87efc6f926f13
    NOW ADD THIS – China to build 43 Billion rail system in California –
    http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/01/01/2216582/china-eyes-calif-rail-system.html
    IS THIS IRONY OR NOT?
    No wonder Glenn doesn’t like Birthers. But of this group WHO TRUSTS WHO??

  18. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    oldsalt79 | April 12, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
    ___________________________________________
    Sounds “Orwellian”

  19. Since births become public record, while I am not completely sure nobody has the right to keep me from asking for a copy of my hospital generated birth record, so long aas it actually exists. I personally believe that a skilled lawyer could win against the HODH, and “BOSS HOGG” But you would need an honest judge to start with.

  20. Free Speech | April 12, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
    Mortrey | April 12, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    Update: Breaking from Hawaii: No More Long-Form Birth Certificates!
    ———————————————————————————————-
    I feel bad for any of the sane people left in that state. Look at the nutter who got hisself elected Gov. Too funny.
    Talk about welfare state, time to examine how much mainland cash is going there. Sorry Keith…..

  21. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Rob | April 12, 2011 at 3:29 pm |

    Obama Using Stolen Social Security Number(video)
    _______________________________________________

    Rob – That was a good video/audio. I listened to it as I commented. Everyone should listen to it.

  22. Pat 1789 | April 12, 2011 at 4:37 pm |

    Yes, Hawaii will soon be rivaling Tennessee and Michigan as hell holes with that bo cohort in charge!

  23. While I am only guessing, I would think that if a person was born in Hawaii, and was issued a long form BC, then if for some reason he needed a copy of it he would have to request a copy specifically of the ORIGINAL BC. It would seem to me that it would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL for a STATE to REFUSE to issue a copy of a document that they hold which was generated out of your birth, in that state, and does exist. If this sort of practice is allowed to stand then it is conceivable that a VETERAN could NO LONGER get his pertinent health records either. I think that such a law will be overturned quickly.
    If Hawaii would do this then it would seem that there would be grounds for civil action against the State Government.

  24. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    PLEASE PLAY AND REPLAY, THIS IS T HE MENTALITY THAT WE ARE UP AGAINST. WE HAVE TO HAVE ANSWERS.

    upcoming Obama campaign propaganda? How to explain his presidency?

    (Have vomit bag at the ready)

  25. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Listening to Judge Napalotino on Fox. He just told it the way it is. He said the Prez? wants to increase the debt to save the economy and he said we have to cut the debt to save the economy. My way of thinking the Prez?, like all the politicians, just want it to keep going as long as they are on their watch.

  26. Why would he not want to see the official Hawaiian long form BC? It’s pretty obvious that anyone who says “I believe he was born in Hawaii” or “I believe he is a citizen” or “I take the man at his word” is intentionally misrepresenting the legal issue, that the constitution requires the president elect shall prove his eligibility . The HI dept of health states it can not be released under HI law. The constitution is superior to HI law. Where is that document? Who is GB working for?

  27. I just got an email from Beck and here is an utterly disgusting quote from the radio program (by “Stu”):

    While the crew was interested in his comments on faith and religion, Stu nearly lost it when Glenn wanted to discuss Trump’s continuing obsession with Obama’s birth certificate.
    “I can’t take it. I can’t take it with the birth certificate nonsense. Stop. It’s so dull and stupid and boring. It’s stupid. Stop it. This guy is just trying this is why I can’t take him seriously on anything else he’s doing. Because he just continues to just push. He just wants attention so badly. Yes, I know I’m saying that about a guy with gold plated name all around the city,”Stu screamed.
    For more……
    http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/04/12/trump-explains-where-he-keeps-his-bibles/
    ***************************************
    If you want to hear the original interview with Trump by the 700 Club (on which the above radio tirade was based) here it is:
    The full “700 Club” interview airs again tonight at 11 pm ET on the ABC Family Channel.

  28. The only reason someone can’t get a long form birth certificate is if they were adopted, and their adoption records were sealed via court order, which is not the case with Obama, as far as anyone knows. This is typically done to shield a birth mother from being found after she gives up the baby.

  29. While I support Trump, I don’t think anyone can take him seriously as a good Christian. He’s been married multiple times, and runs the Miss USA pagent, which as a female, I find highly offensive. I would vote for him for many other good reasons, not for his religion. But BO is a joke as a good Christian too.

  30. re: new haw doh procedures

    so blatantly obvious.

    just to give cover to the prez so he can say “i couldn’t get the bc to show you even if i wanted to”.

  31. Unique, unmirrored (extremely rare) video of Mormon Beck gushing about he & his wife going to teach 1800 pastors, priests and rabbis how to preach! -“Glenn Beck 8/27/2010 ”
    watch?v=JscyRb9iSIo

    Many evangelicals (particularly “discernment” websites that feature stories on apostasy & heresy) have increasingly been noting the blasphemy & heresy of Beck.
    Video: “2/4 Glenn Beck and Jim Wallis Are Both Pushing Social Justice and an Earthly Kingdom!!”
    watch?v=rCvlHHn6yFs

  32. Rare video of Mormon Beck gushing about he & his wife going to teach 1800 pastors, priests and rabbis how to preach! -“Glenn Beck 8/27/2010 ”
    watch?v=JscyRb9iSIo

    Many evangelicals (particularly “discernment” websites that feature stories on apostasy & heresy) have increasingly been noting the blasphemy & heresy of Beck.
    Video: “2/4 Glenn Beck and Jim Wallis Are Both Pushing Social Justice and an Earthly Kingdom!!”

  33. I would like to see Trump start to mention other documents too, like OB’s college applications are sealed, or that his father was a Kenyan/British citizen, or the SSN issue, or that his legal name may not even be Barak Obama. And while the fools – Trump’s word – may say there is no evidence to support that OB was born in Kenya, there is the BC that was found with the divorce records, if that’s authenticated.

  34. Rare video of Mormon Beck gushing about he & his wife going to teach 1800 pastors, priests and rabbis how to preach! -“Glenn Beck 8/27/2010 ”
    watch?v=JscyRb9iSIo

    Many evangelicals (particularly “discernment” websites that feature stories on apostasy & heresy) have increasingly been noting the blasphemy & heresy of Beck.
    Video: “2/4 Glenn Beck and Jim Wallis Are Both Pushing Social Justice and an Earthly Kingdom!!”
    watch?v=rCvlHHn6yFs

  35. It is amazing how the MSM sent hoards of reporters to Alaska to investigate Palin, but can’t seem to investigate OB at all. The misleading info they put out like there are newspaper announcements, or that the current gov of Hawaii knew the parents, would never stand up in court as proof of birth in Hawaii.

  36. Now they drag out the sister, and she doesn’t say anything either that would be allowed in a court of law. She says there’s tons of evidence, when in fact, there is no real legally permissable evidence, and the MSM knows this, but still they report this story.

  37. Tina……………………
    Something doesn’t sound KOSHER. Most of us have been led to believe that the BC IS MISSING from the divorce records, which may have occurred for some other reason. I am not even sure if a birth certificate would be necessary in a divorce action.

  38. Old Salt : I remember a court case where Taley wanted to introduce in a court case the birth certificate she found with divorce records, but I don’t remember if it was ever authenticated. I have heard there was a BC showing a Kenyan birth and there wasn’t. So I don’t know what ever happened with that issue. Maybe someone else knows. I do remember they were trying to track down the Kenyan doctor, but couldn’t find him, etc., etc.

  39. The other thing.. if the MSM was going to be fair and balanced, if they drag out the sister to comment, why don’t they drag out the clerk who said there was no birth certificate?

  40. More Reported Judicial Tyranny in Tennessee

    Hawaii will soon be rivaling Tennessee as a hell hole with that bo cohort abercrombie in charge.

  41. Tina………………
    The logical conclusion is that Trump’s investigative staff is competent enough to work the angles as well as the primary criteria. I personally forwarded copies of everything that I held in my computer files to him early on. I also stated quite specifically that none of it is yet proven beyond reasonable doubt. That said it is up to Mr Trump to pick out anything which interests him and do his own research, or have it done via his investigative staff.

  42. I just returned home and was told that Cavuto was very positive towards Trump today. Did anyone see it and/or know of a link?

  43. P.S.

    In the car I was able to hear Mark Levin excoriate the top Republicans for the lousy budget deal.

    I do not think anyone in the so-called entrenched political elite – from any party – understand how angry most of us are.

  44. “OBAMA USING STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER” (VIDEO)

  45. oldsalt79 | April 12, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Tina………………
    The logical conclusion is that Trump’s investigative staff is competent enough to work the angles as well as the primary criteria. I personally forwarded copies of everything that I held in my computer files to him early on. I also stated quite specifically that none of it is yet proven beyond reasonable doubt. That said it is up to Mr Trump to pick out anything which interests him and do his own research, or have it done via his investigative staff.

    _____________________
    Of course, that’s all true, OldSalt. Just that as long as he stays on the BC, the MSM will knock it down. However, he must have a strategy so I will respect that. At least he’s moved the whole BC issue forward.

  46. I love that Trump called the non-brither fools. So now we’re down to the birthers and the fools. Ha!

  47. “OBAMA USING STOLEN SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER” (VIDEO)

    “More evidence is appearing, that shows that Obama has been using a Connecticut issued Social Security number that was assigned to a person, now deceased, born in 1890.

    CDR Charles F. Kerchner and his attorney Mario Apuzzo interviewed by Peter Boyles on KHOW.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmtjxy-fFE&feature=player_embedded

  48. Mr. Bill(ms.helga) | April 12, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
    —————————————————————————-
    Thanks Mr. Bill
    Beck is full of it, I listen to him when there is nothing else. He’s no conservative.

  49. Beyond a Reasonable Doubt is NOT the burden of proof for a Grand Jury Indictment. All that is necessary to Indict bo and his local co-conspirators in State Court is merely a Reasonable Suspicion that bo and his local co-conspirators committed crimes in your State.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://connect.freedomworks.org/

    Indictment Forms

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=10.37.040

  50. Justice Lewis Powell ruled:“ Such an (Grand Jury) investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”

    Dr. Sam Sewell: “I think CGJ is the quickest, most effective, and most practical way to clean up government corruption. I have yet to see a viable argument against that premise.”

    Justice Antonin Scalia: “…In fact, the whole theory of its (the Grand Jury) function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people

  51. Tina | April 12, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
    The other thing.. if the MSM was going to be fair and balanced, if they drag out the sister to comment, why don’t they drag out the clerk who said there was no birth certificate?
    ———————————————————————————————-
    Because it does not fit the Myth they have created. BHO was picked by the Libs who run the MSM and Hary Reid because “he was light skinned” and sounded intelligent. BHO is an empty suited actor. He most likely does not have an original thought in his head. His brain was damaged by years of Cocaine abuse and a severe blunt trauma to the head ( see scar pics) . That’s why they are hiding his medical records.

  52. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Little Chrissey Matthews on MSNBC just said Birthers that follow DT are like the people in PT Barnum’s quote – “There is a new sucker born every minute”. My answer – “He who laughs last, laughs BEST!”
    The libs are wetting their pants and some “pubs” too. HAHAHAHA

  53. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    PS – The greatest part of all this all the networks are killing themselves to get an interview with DT so they can get a RATINGS bump. They are eating themselves alive!

  54. Tina……………….
    The MSM will try to do a lot of things. However I have my doubts as to how effective they will be against Donald Trump. After all here is an individual who has been envolved with the American business world for a long time,and nopw has holdings valuing well into the billions of dollars. Yes he has stumbled a number of times and has been in bankruptcy at least once. But when such a person can sustain that then get up and start over and have success tells me that he does know exactly what he is doing, and has the courage to go forward in spite of the bruises,and lacerations from bankruptcy. He gets my vote NOW in that plain. But there are other variables that I am waiting to see how he addresses. Then I will decide if he gets my total vote. However I will go so far as to say we at this point HAVE NOBODY else who is as qualified as Trump. I do question his ability to lead our military,but here again at least we know that if elected he would be KNOWN to be a LEGAL CINC. Trump posted his BC. It is CLEAN,AND GREEN.

  55. Trump is also a loyal American, and I can trust he will do what he thinks is best for us.

  56. Mr. Bill
    That wasn’t the exact words of PT Barnum,but you are close enough. Christine Mathews says a lot of stuff .Sadly LITTLE of what she says holds little truth, or logic. It is like listening to a person fresh out of a “FUNNY FARM”.

  57. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    oldsalt79 – Don’t forget DT graduated from Nrw York Military Academy. He knows DUTY-HONOR-COUNTRY.

  58. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Oldsalt79 – Missy Chrissey is the only Democrat in his family- mother, father, and brothers. His claim to fame was Tipster O’Neil.

  59. There are Several Well Qualified Legitimate Republicans running for President.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20053067-503544.html

    Trump says he’ll “probably” run as independent

    “I think the Republicans are very concerned that I [may] run as an independent,” Trump said in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. “I could also possibly win as an independent, otherwise I wouldn’t do it. I’m not doing it for any other reason. I like winning.”

  60. Gordo,

    On a previous thread: Thanks for posting the Ann Coulter link. She only proves that she has drunk the conservative kool-aid!

    Current polls are showing most of likely Republican primary voters (which Trump will need and is smart to court) agree with him that Obama is ineligible. As it seems likely that many of those same folks are Coulter’s core readership – she probably hurts herself with her obviously wrong-headed opinion.

  61. Trump will not win as an independent. It is simply too difficult for an independent to get on enough ballots in enough States to win. He will merely throw the election to the dem just as Perot did in 1992.

    Perot got 20% of the popular vote but he did not win a single electoral vote.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992

  62. Interesting Trump and the BC are getting so much play. I wonder why? Anyway, maybe Trump is going to do the drip, drip approach. Let it out a little at a time.

  63. Rush challenged Trump to come on his Show and address the controversy over Trumps plans to run as an independent.

  64. I think what people forget about Ross Perot is that he was AHEAD in the polls when he suddenly dropped out in the middle of the race. The details are vague, but I think his issue was something about Republicans trying to disrupt his daughters wedding. At that point he looked like a certifiable nut job.

    Then, he re-entered the race and still got 20% of the vote.

    That will not happen to Trump.

  65. Did anyone actually listen to the WSJ interview with Trump? He said that he would only run as an independent if he thought he would win, realizing that it would hurt the Republican nominee. I am listening to it right now.

    All polls currently point that Trump is right on the issues likely Republican primary voters like. I imagine that he knows this and will run as a Republican.

  66. Interesting Trump and the BC are getting so much play. I wonder why?

    By Tina on April 12, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    —————–
    Why? Because u have Clinton dems, Birthers, and Constitutionals pushing the BC issue.

  67. Bill OReally shilling for Obama.

  68. O’Really just made a fool of himself.

  69. Perot got 20% of the popular vote but he did not win a single electoral vote. It will be no different for Trump. He will not win a single electoral vote.

    Trump can not win as an independent. It is simply too difficult for an independent to get on enough ballots in enough States to win. He will merely throw the election to the dem just as Perot did in 1992.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992

  70. Go Monica!!!

  71. Perot did get 20% of the vote.

    He dropped out mid-election.

    At that point he was poised to win.

    That is the correct story.

    A popular independent could win by running a smart campaign. Perot could have won.

  72. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    I am watching OH’REALLY too. He is an O Lover. Monica’s twin sister is married to Colmes. Talk about incest. They are petrified.

  73. Monica Crowly gave it to O Really, and the other moron, Alan Colms. She knows the facts pretty well, and knows Obama is a fraud.

  74. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    FS – I’ll put my faith in the American people and the Constitution. That’s all DT has to say and it will be a landslide Tsunami.

  75. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Ladyhawke | April 12, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    ———————————————————————–

    Are you a commenter at Lucianne? There is a Ladyhawke there. My only 3 “homes” – CW – Drudge & Lucianne.

  76. Ladyhawke | April 12, 2011 at 7:10 pm |

    Perot did get 20% of the vote.

    He dropped out mid-election.

    At that point he was poised to win.

    That is the correct story.

    A popular independent could win by running a smart campaign. Perot could have won.
    ************************
    Ladyhawke , Didn’t some group threaten to disrupt his daughters wedding and cause him to back down and drop out? We ended up with slick willy.

  77. Bravo Monica!

    She didn’t let O’Reilly bully her. He failed to mention that Obama was named Barry Soetoro and was a Muslim according to his Indonesian school records. And he didn’t mention that BO surrendered his law license. Lousy piece of investigation. I’m sure Trump will do better.

  78. Trump will not win as an independent. It is simply too difficult for an independent to get on enough ballots in enough States to win. He will merely throw the election to the dem just as Perot did in 1992.

    Perot got 20% of the popular vote but he did not win a single electoral vote. It will be no different for Trump. He will not win a single electoral vote.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992

  79. Bill O’reilly was a joke tonight only showing what he wants you to see,and O’reilly who is going to take Trumps hand and walk him into Hawaii Health Department to show Trump Obama’s birth records? you Bill O’reilly?

  80. Mr. Bill(ms.helga) | April 12, 2011 at 7:22 pm |

    Yes, and am proud to say that I was there from the beginning. Did you see the story I posted over the weekend that got over 200 hits and was a “Must Read?” It was the Canada Free Press article about Barry Soetero. It was talked about here, but the format at lucianne is different, as you know. Conversation is not really allowed. Should anyone have the time, the comments are worth the read.

    http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=608322

    Lately, most of the comments I make are to educate folks about the NBC issue. What’s your handle there?

    In fact, it would be great if more CW posters would apply for posting privileges there – it is easy. You know how it works at lucianne – if a great story does not get enough comments – it might drop off the radar.

  81. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    FS – We are no longer in a little Happy-Wappyville land. We are on the edge of disaster. Trump has to lay the facts out as a businessman and assure the country he has a team ready to start on day one to put Humpty-Dumpty back together again.Read this article from Lucianne –

    “5 Things That Will Happen To You
    When America Goes Bankrupt”

    READ THE COMMENTS

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=608740

  82. Perot was a nutter like Ron Paul. He was working for the Clintons.

  83. bob strauss | April 12, 2011 at 7:24 pm |

    Ladyhawke , Didn’t some group threaten to disrupt his daughters wedding and cause him to back down and drop out? We ended up with slick willy.
    ________________________________
    Exactly. And Perot claimed it was Republicans.

    Again, at the time that happened, Perot was ahead.

    Perot looked crazy. Later, he jumped back in and still got 20% of the vote – which is amazing amount considering the story and craziness. And yes, that did give us Slick Willie.

    The devil is always in the details and often not the pure statistic.

  84. I am a Trump man until June 1 then all bets are off.
    As mad as I am at the (R) I still hold out hope (not much)that the Tea Party can take them over. I ‘m starting to like Rand Paul, hope he’s not a nutter like the dad though.

  85. Jonah | April 12, 2011 at 7:26 pm |

    Bravo Monica!

    She didn’t let O’Reilly bully her. He failed to mention that Obama was named Barry Soetoro and was a Muslim according to his Indonesian school records. And he didn’t mention that BO surrendered his law license. Lousy piece of investigation. I’m sure Trump will do better.
    ***************************
    Jonah, A few months ago Monica couldn’t mention any of this, the subject was taboo, now it is out in the open.

    We birthers are going to win on this issue, to defend the Constitution, and the people claiming anchor babies qualify as natural born Citizens, and are eligible to the office of POTUS are going to lose.

  86. Ladyhawke – I read your comment at lucianne on that Vanity unFair article. I never had the courage to compete with you pros over there. I love my safe little home here. If you go back a couple ,I just posted that scary article –

    “5 Things That Will Happen To You
    When America Goes Bankrupt”

    READ THE COMMENTS

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=608740

  87. Trump is will have to answer to Rush about his intention to run as an independant, otherwise he will most of his support from conservatives.

  88. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    CW – why is my “Mr. Bill” missing on ,y last comment?

  89. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Good show now on Hannity. Frank Luntz discussing with freshmen congress. Very revealing.

  90. Trump is will have to answer to Rush about his intention to run as an independant, otherwise he will lose most of his support from conservatives.

  91. Tuesday, April 12, 2011
    An Analysis of the Current Revelations of Hawaii’s Dr. Chiyome Fukino to NBC News Regarding Obama’s Place of Birth

    By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
    April 12, 2011

    Recently we saw an article appear at msnbc.com written by Michael Isikoff, National investigative correspondent for NBC News. The article is dated April 10, 2011, and is entitled, “Ex-Hawaii Official Denounces ‘Ludicrous’ Birther Claims.” It can be read at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics# I will now analyze the many problems that exist with this “investigative” story. My criticisms are directed at both Dr. Fukino and Mr. Isikoff.
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

  92. The repubs are not going to go after bo until after he is nominated because they do want to hand the nomination to a strong candidate. After bo is nominated, the repubs will see to it that bo is indicted in multiple State Courts.

  93. Let’s pray Trump is doing this for the right reasons. Stay safe, God Bless.

  94. Where is Andy Martin? Did not Andy conduct an investigation into Bo’s background in Hawaii? Also, weren’t there were other investigators.
    Do you really think Donald’s team will turn up anything new?
    Guess we will have to wait and see………

    This is like looking for a picture of a black bird in a coal mine!!

  95. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Holy-Wizzbang Ladyhawke . Good job and loved all the comments. The American people (The Sleeping Giant) is coming awake. AND THEY KNOW IT.

    The unraveling of Barry Soetoro,
    a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama II
    Canada Free Press, by Doug Hagmann & Joseph Hagmann

    Original Article

    Posted By:Ladyhawke, 4/9/2011 2:38:31 PM

    http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=608322

  96. hapnHal | April 12, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    Andy Martin’s site.

    http://contrariancommentary.wordpress.com/

  97. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Watching Greta now – In case you all didn’t know, she and hubby lawyer are Scientologists

    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=Greta+Van+Susteren+%2B+Scientologist&aq=0&aqi=g1&aql=f&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=53fd2b5286cafcf7

    That really makes mt day.

  98. truthbetold11's avatar truthbetold11

    Beck almost got me! But ive learn in the last 2 years nothing seems to be the truth and he tells only 7o percent truth. The rest is spin and speaking on behalf of the corporations they pay him millions!!! A caller called in to his show saying we are bascially run by corporations disney,ge etc. Beck totally ridiculed him and was protecting his paycheck. He is not to be trusted.Question with boldeness just not the truth.

  99. birthers rule over deathers

  100. Something I have thought about that is not mentioned very much.

    Why would Barry have his mother and grandmother cremated? Were they really cremated? Is there a death certificate on those women? If not cremated could there be a grave site some where? Is there any way to find out what hospital his mother died in or was she really treated for cancer and what kind of cancer did she have? How about Barry’s grandfather where is he buried or was he cremated.

    Also remember during the heated Death Care bill and Barrys white doctor cousin from kansas was on Fox a couple of times so where is he hiding out at?

  101. Ginger on April 12, 2011 at 9:39 pm
    —————-
    Why would Barry have his… grandmother cremated?
    —————
    To cover up her murder.

  102. Free Speech

    Right on!

    Time to put this old bag of bones to bed. 🙂

  103. ms. helga | April 12, 2011 at 7:58 pm |

    I went to the article you linked to.

    I guess you want me to read the comments. As there are more than a hundred, I shall do that.

    Is there any more information?

  104. Talk about kicking the can….(Free Republic)

    According to Romney family lawyers it doesn’t matter if Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, Kenya, or even Paris: Because his mother was an American (and not even Donald Trump questions that), he is eligible to be President.

    The Romney lawyers investigated this question in the 1960s, when Mitt Romney’s father, Governor George Romney of Michigan, was vying for the Republican presidential nomination. George Romney had been born in a Mormon colony in Chihuahua, Mexico, as his grandfather moved there with his wives in the 1880s after polygamy was outlawed in the U.S.
    While some opponents nicknamed him “Chihuahua George,” his suitability for the highest office because of his birth was never seriously challenged. The reason his campaign faltered was because of his shift in position on the Vietnam War:

    (Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com

  105. Jon Stewart:

    “After playing a clip of Trump questioning President Obama’s birth certificate, Stewart yelled in response, “his mother was American …”

    [video at link]

    http://tinyurl.com/3k4t2h7

  106. “… O’Reilly declares:

    “We’re going to put this to bed tonight. He does have a legitimate birth certificate. The state of Hawaii says they have it. And we have no reason not to believe that.”

    [video at link]

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-oreilly-tackles-myths-about-obama-and-separates-fact-from-fiction/

  107. Regarding lucianne.com: Her site has a home page with “Must Reads” posted early every morning. I have listened to Rush Limbaugh forever, as he got his start as a conservative commentator in the city where I live. I have noticed that often that an article in the “Must Reads” shows up on the Limbaugh show.

    Commenting there may be intimidating, only because you sort of have to post your opinion without expecting to respond to detractors. However, CW posting experience is really all that you need. So many of you would be brilliant over there – and that would be awesome for both sites. (I have mentioned CW articles at lucianne.com, but have no way of knowing if that brought traffic here.)

    Lastly, in the thread posted by Mr. Bill(ms.helga),

    I managed to write a new description of NBC, that got a lot of email response. Up until now I have been pounding people with Vattel and the Founding Fathers. This new attack seemed to work, is simpler and if it might work for you, please plagiarize it and use it in your communication as your own:
    It feels a bit strange to quote myself:

    “Regarding posts about the meanings of “citizen” and “natural born citizen,” per The Constitution: NBC has never been clarified by the Supreme Court, they never have had to as it only matters as a requirement for POTUS. There have been several SCOTUS cases, some with circumstances like posters herein have reported, where the Court concluded the person was simply a citizen, but not a NBC.

    You have to do the research into the communication of the Founding Fathers to see what they meant. They meant born on this soil of two citizen parents. It did not need to be defined as “natural” means just that. You did not need a law to declare your U.S. citizenship.

    Think about it, there is no statute that says you are a NBC if you are born here of two U.S. citizens. There doesn’t have to be as it is obvious. There are statutes for every other kind of citizens – all of whom are citizens, but not NBCs.

    As I have said many times, the NBC requirement prevents the spawn of Osama bin Laden, born of an American woman in NYC, from becoming POTUS – and the Founders meant to protect us from that.”

    If it helps anyone in their arguments, please steal it.

  108. An amusing story:

    My elderly mother has a lifelong friend who listened to O’Reilly tonight. They have both been in intrigued with and have liked Trump for months.

    The friend was distraught about the comments and called my mother. My mother told her that O’Really did not know what he was talking about and should never be listened to again. The friend agreed.

    the AARP crowd for Trump!

  109. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

    Obama, first lady to unveil ‘Joining Forces’ campaign for military families
    The president and Michelle Obama will announce the effort, which the first lady will spearhead with Jill Biden. The campaign will focus on employment, education and health issues. The initiative already has some Hollywood supporters.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-pn-military-initiative-20110413,0,6944601.story

  110. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    Mr. Bill(ms.helga) | April 12, 2011 at 9:09 pm |
    Watching Greta now – In case you all didn’t know, she and hubby lawyer are Scientologists
    ———————————
    I didn’t know that. How disappointing.

  111. I’ve been getting 1500 to 2000 hits a day since I posted this and it has shown up on dozens of other sires.

    AKA Obama – We’ve Got Your Number – 042-68-4425
    042-68-4425

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/04/aka-obama-weve-got-your-number-042-68.html

  112. Check this out, who knew that the USA has only been a Super Power on the world scene for about 60 years:

    Mission of this site

    I suppose we were only a minor participant in both World Wars according to this account!

  113. Ladyhawke you need a lesson in history.

    The USA was not an original participant in either of the world wars. In the early 1900s the USA was tending towards isolationism. The USA did not enter the first world war until at least 2 years after it began.

    The same happened in the second world war where the USA was a latecomer to the action. I do not know the exact timing, but I do know that the USA were not there in the beginning.

    My 60 years mark was recognition of the role of the USA after the 2nd world war.

    It just shows how you twist the comments of others.

  114. Aussie | April 13, 2011 at 2:48 am |

    I do not imagine many posters in this site will agree with you and your attack on the USA.

    It does not matter when we entered either war – we were instrumental in winning them both, although your idiotic time line leaves no room for the United States of America being in either war.

  115. The Magic of Donald Trump (by Ben Shapiro, Townhall)

    Interesting article :
    (quote)
    “If Republicans were to construct an ideal candidate, he would have to be rich beyond belief — Obama is going to raise $1 billion for his next election campaign, and no Republican candidate has the ability to come close to those numbers without deep pockets. The ideal Republican candidate would have significant name recognition with the general public — no Republican candidate has ever won the presidency without significant name recognition going into the primaries since Warren G. Harding in 1920. The ideal Republican candidate would have stage presence, an intimidation factor, and a willingness to play dirty.”
    For more……
    http://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2011/04/13/the_magic_of_donald_trump

  116. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    I just put on Morning Joe (MSNBS) – The Donald has them in a giant dither. THEY JUST SAID HIS POLLS WOULD GO HIGHER IF HE WOULD GET OFF THE “BIRTHER” THING!!
    Are they crazy ? He has come out of nowhere and gone from zero and tied for first place in a matter of WEEKS because of the “Birther” thing.. He is the TSUNAMI. Read Cabby’s article just behind mine.
    Tonight when Dear Leader speaks, he knows that every eye looking at him will wonder ,”Is the eligibility thing true or not?”
    ONWARD
    HONESTY TRUMPS CORRUPTION

  117. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    PS – Have you all seen the new motto for MSNBC ? It is
    “LEAN FORWARD”
    However, they left out – AND GRAB YOUR ANKLES!!!

    MSNBC is the rectal thermometer for political fever. And you can quote me.

  118. Why wasn’t Trump upfront about his intention to run as an independent?

    Why isn’t Hillary upfront about her intention to run again in 2012?

    I understand Hillary’s dilemma about not wanting to alienate the Black vote, but all she had to do was get bo and his local supporters indicted by State Grand Juries and bo would be history.

  119. Helga,

    Trump is only polling 2nd in 1
    State poll.

    National polls are irrelevant as we saw with Perot who did not win a single electoral vote even though he go 20 per cent in the National polls.

  120. hapnHal | April 12, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
    Talk about kicking the can….(Free Republic
    ________________________________________

    Just read the column and maybe this is why Beck acts this way about “Birthers”. Beck is a Mormon and both Romney and Huntsmen Jr. are potential runners.

  121. Good Morning! It looks like Romney may have just lost the nomination. He’s going down the my lawyers researched this in the 60’s and say that it take one citizen parent, not two and birth overseas ok. He’d be better served if he got some new lawyers because they are so far off-base.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/mitt-romney/2011/04/12/romney-trump-obama-doesn-t-need-birth-certificate

    So now, they are actively trying to rewrite the Constitution. That’s probably good that Romney has done this, because Trump needs to be ready for this line of argument.

    The comments so fare are against Romney.

    Take care,
    Zach Jones

    GYEBALEKO (J BA LE KO) – Luganda for ‘Thank You For Your Work’
    My Personal Commenting Code

  122. CitizenWElls's avatar citizenwells

    Good morning.

  123. This where FOX got the Romney info:

    http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfreedman/2011/04/12/romney-to-trump-obama-doesnt-need-a-birth-certificate/

    Take care,
    Zach Jones

    GYEBALEKO (J BA LE KO) – Luganda for ‘Thank You For Your Work’
    My Personal Commenting Code

  124. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    I WISH –

    I wish the next time someone of the MSM asks Donald Trump why he is going after the Birth Certificate issue, he would say – “I am seeking the truth and freedom for LtC Terry Lakin, a brave soldier who questioned the eligibility of the CIC” and is now serving time at Ft. Levenworth

  125. Morning CW! This should turn the discussion of who can and can’t be a Natural Born Citizen. And Beck should have to address the new Romney theory of eligibility. The question is – Will Beck agree with the new Romney theory? or will he start researching the issue? He has had a few Constitutional law experts on his show I believe. Will they seek the truth or seek to bend the Constitution to suit their entrenched positions?

    Take care,
    Zach Jones

    GYEBALEKO (J BA LE KO) – Luganda for ‘Thank You For Your Work’
    My Personal Commenting Code

  126. The media self appointed elite are getting f-r-a-n-t-i-c.

  127. Mr. Bill (ms. helga) – will mbmh work for responding to you?
    I agree that Trump should bring Lt. Col. Lakin’s persecution into the discussion but as an aside. He needed to use it to build interest but in the end it all boils down to who can and can’t be a ‘natural born citizen’?

    Will it be a smack down issue at a Republican Debate? Romney’s lawyers vs. Trump’s lawyers. I need to go to the store and stock up on popcorn.

    Take care,
    Zach Jones

    GYEBALEKO (J BA LE KO) – Luganda for ‘Thank You For Your Work’
    My Personal Commenting Code

  128. CitizenWElls's avatar citizenwells

    Canada Free Press has linked to a Citizen Wells article.

    “Help Trump Dump the Chump!”

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35413

    More on this later.

  129. Trump will have to humble himself and respond to Rush’s challenge to appear on his show and answer the controversy created by his admission on CBS that he intends to run as as independant.

    Conservative independants will not support Trump if Rush comes out against him.

  130. citizenwells on April 13, 2011 at 7:44 am

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35413

    This absurd Kafkaesque scenario is worthy of a short play by Samuel Beckett:

    Customs Inspector:  “May I see your passport please?”

    Barack Obama:  “I will show it to you as soon as you prove that I do not have one.”
    ————————
    Amusing, but all Trump and Hillary have to do to dump the chump is get him and his local co-conspirators indicted in multiple State Court Grand Juries.

  131. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Zach – That’s an AOK

  132. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    FS – The Donald ain’t gonna humble himself to anyone. Especially Rush.

  133. I’m confused,

    Are Romney and company CAMPAIGNING for the Fraud?

    ???

  134. And I’ll say it again,

    Any candidate that DOESN’T question the Fraud’s credentials at this point is DANGEROUSLY unfit to be POTUS.

  135. Great CW! I put the following post up at military blog.

    It looks like Romney may have just elevated the eligibility issue to a level that requires the media of stripes to get involved with their experts. This is great news for those who have been calling for a real discussion and analysis of the issue. It may also make it more politically tenable for judges to look at.

    Time will tell if ‘truth’ is the result. Some will surely try to rely on this statute from congress or that law to support their position, but it is important to remember that the Constitution trumps (no pun intended) what Congress says. The Constitution has an amendment process that needs to be followed to move one step closer to the ‘I’m a citizen of planet earth’ society should America decide to go that route.

    Romney is relying the theory that it only takes one parent to transfer Natural Born Citizenship status regardless of birthplace.

    Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate
    http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfreedman/2011/04/12/romney-to-trump-obama-doesnt-need-a-birth-certificate/

  136. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    I am sorry folks but I came up with a quote this morning that I have to repeat again. I just know it will become famous and people will come from far and wide to CW fo see where such a quote came from. There is a God.

    “PS – Have you all seen the new motto for MSNBC ? It is
    “LEAN FORWARD”
    However, they left out – AND GRAB YOUR ANKLES!!!

    MSNBC is the rectal thermometer for political fever. And you can quote me.”

    Mr. Bill(ms.helga)
    From “USURPERVILLE”

  137. Trump can not evade Rush’s questions about his intention to run as an independant.

    Rush is the most influential conservative in America. If Rush comes out against Trump, he is finished.

  138. Any candidate that DOESN’T question the Fraud’s credentials at this point is DANGEROUSLY unfit to be POTUS.
    By TruthSeeker on April 13, 2011 at 8:15 am
    —————–
    I agree.

  139. My understanding among the SCOTUS’ decisions is the case of Shanks vs. Dupont (on the case of an inheritance) that the FATHER determines the child’s citizenship.

    Maybe research is in order.

  140. Thanks FS.

  141. TruthSeeker,

    You are correct.

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html

    Now what part of Vattel’s clear and concise Definition of a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN do Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Democrats not understand?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/01/definition-of-birther-and-definition-of.html

    If we take BHO Jr. at his word then there is no doubt that he is not a Natural Born Citizen of the United States as required by the Presidential Qualifications Clause of Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5 of the United States Constitution. The Constitution requires that to be the President of the United States, a person must be born in the United States of two parents who are citizens of the United States.

    By BHO Junior’s own admission his father was a British/Kenyan subject (citizen) at the time of his birth. Thus BHO Jr. is disqualified for the Presidency.

    There is a clear, concise definition of the term “Natural Born Citizen” in Vattel’s Law of Nations which was the principal legal reference book used by the Founding Fathers in writing the Constitution. “The natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

    There have been innumerable United States Supreme Court Decisions that have referenced Vattel’s Law of Nations as a resource in interpreting the original intent of the Founding Fathers when writing the Constitution.

  142. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Free Speech | April 13, 2011 at 8:17 am |

    Trump can not evade Rush’s questions about his intention to run as an independant.

    Rush is the most influential conservative in America. If Rush comes out against Trump, he is finished.
    ___________________________________________

    FS – I thought I taught you it is ALL FOR RATINGS. No one is going to stop the TRUMP EXPRESS. Not even Hillary.

  143. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/155709-tea-party-to-gop-members-shape-up-or-face-primaries-

    By Ginger on April 13, 2011 at 8:47 am
    —————–
    Thanks Ginger!

  144. NBC Vic Hern's avatar NBC Vic Hern

    hapnHal | April 12, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    Where is Andy Martin?

    Believe I read yesterday in a comment on another site that
    Andy Martin had been in contact with Trump and/or his peeps
    and had/was forwarding information.

  145. TruthSeeker | April 13, 2011 at 8:15 am |
    And I’ll say it again,

    Any candidate that DOESN’T question the Fraud’s credentials at this point is DANGEROUSLY unfit to be POTUS.
    —————————————————————

    ..and dangerously unfit to be a judge, military or otherwise.

    And we should also think about the role of the press in America.

    Here’s what wiki says about the press:
    “The role of the press in America is to act as watchdogs, allow free flow ideas, and help people make informed decision. ”

    Does that sound like any press you know?
    Well, there are a few people filling that role in the internet, but you know what i mean.

    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/The_role_of_free_press_in_America#ixzz1JPd4GuBQ

  146. Hillary is the main beneficiary of Trump’s candidacy. Trump will eliminate bo for Hillary to get the nomination. Then Trump will run as an independant and take votes from the repub candidate, just like 1992.

  147. Tina | April 12, 2011 at 5:11 pm |

    The only reason someone can’t get a long form birth certificate is if they were adopted, and their adoption records were sealed via court order, which is not the case with Obama, as far as anyone knows. This is typically done to shield a birth mother from being found after she gives up the baby.
    *************************
    Maybe “Toot” was the real mother, and Stanly Anne adopted Barry to conceal the identity of the birth mother?

  148. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    FS,

    Changing stripes AGAIN?

    Just the other day you were commenting about how you had changed your mind and was voting for Trump (don’t make me go back and find it, although with your multiple repeated posts it wouldn’t be hard).

    You are coming across as a Hillary supporter.

    I guess becoming a conservative after being a liberal for so long isn’t as easy as you thought, is it?

    And one last thing, you comment that Rush is the most influential conservative. I beg to differ, I listened to Rush for years, and now I do NOT listen to him anymore, simply because he hasn’t pursued the eligibility issue (but then again, not many have).

    Right now, I’d have to give my nod for most influential conservative to Andrew Wilkow.

    If you haven’t listened to him, maybe you should give him a try.

    Maybe he can help you get Hillary out of your brain, and maybe you can become the true conservative that you claim to be.

  149. Glenn Back was like the “Chicken Littles” always saying that the “Sky is Falling”, like the same ones that were the “Chicken Hawks” (“W” Wars), big talk no courage. The United States, favors creativity wherever it can be found. We’re apostles of prosperity and defenders of the free exchange of ideas and when more people in more countries are free to rise, to invent, to communicate, to dissent, it’s not the doom of United States leadership, its the triumph of the American way. Generations have worked hard and sacrificed much for the country to reach this point (individuals and our unions!), and with further hard work and sacrifice (along with our relentless self-doubt) the United States will rise again, we do not tire and we are coming back, no matter what the “Chicken Littles” keep saying about our nation. Never Bet Against the United States!

  150. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Hey All,

    IF Romney gets the nomination of the Republican Party, I see MILLIONS and MILLIONS of conservatives jumping OFF the Republican “band wagon”, and voting for a third party candidate.

    I know that I would NEVER vote for Romney. He’s no conservative, and I believe he is simply a Democrat (lite), just like McCain.

    If that means Obama gets a second term (as much as I’d HATE to see that), then so be it.

    Until the Republicans come up with a conservative that talks about cutting whole departments out of the Government, and rolling back the size of Government, along with a solid plan to cut our National debt (not just the annual deficits), then the Republicans do NOT deserve the White House.

    I’m not convinced we can achieve this goal without raising taxes, and I for one would be willing to pay a tax simply to pay down our National debt (after the budget is balanced of course).

    I agree that higher taxes are not a good strategy, if you could get across that the tax would be ONLY to pay down the National debt, then I would support a tax increase, until the debt is paid off (which would take years, and I understand that).

    I am willing to sacrifice so that future generations can thrive, and I believe there are many others who would agree.

  151. Andrew Wilkow??? I believe Rush has a slightly larger audience.

  152. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Ginger,

    Did you happen to see Thomas’ interview in Playboy?

    Talk about coming across as a bitter old woman………….geesh

    She is DEFINATELY anti Israel.

  153. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Bankroller,

    It’s NOT the size of the audience, but the content of the message.

    The last I heard, Rush’s audience numbers were falling.

    Besides, Wilkow is only on XM, I believe, so his numbers will be lower.

    But his message is spot on, especially when discussing the Constitution. I only wish I could listen to him more.

    Mike Church in the morning on XM is pretty good also, but not as good as Wilkow, in my opinion.

  154. Call the freak shows and have them explain, “permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government; and to declare expressly tht the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

  155. Unlike Trump, I have been a Conservative Independant my entire Adult Life and I voted for President Reagan and Bush 41 & 43.

    http://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/donald_trump.asp

    Political Campaign Contributions by Donald Trump (1999 to Present) – $445,100

    DEMOCRAT: 59.81%

    REPUBLICAN: 40.19%

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -2,300 11/10/2009

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -1,700 11/09/2009

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat 600 11/12/2007

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 200 11/01/2006

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 12/02/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 900 09/30/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 03/23/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 05/01/2002
    Trump’s Praise of Hillary and Obama on CNN with Wolf Blitzer:

  156. Conservatives would have a higher regard for Trump if he had the Courage to appear on Rush’s Show and come clean about his intention to run as an independent and his support for Hillary.

  157. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    The problem with the Toot as mother theory is the father has to be black. But the fact remains that BO resembles his grandfather most as both he and his daughter (the alleged mother), Stanley Ann have elongated very oval faces. Toot did not.

  158. Interested Bystander
    Playboy? hahaha … No I did not and sure did not miss nothing! She is one ugly woman inside and out! I am so glad that I do not live with such ugly hateful things towards others.

    I do not listen to Rush any more because it is all about him! I stopped watching Glen Beck a long time ago. It is all about them and their opinions. Rush takes hardly any calls. Glen Beck spends the whole time on his chalk board. His tone raises my blood pressure. I just started feeling like the man was trying to brain wash us! He rants to much just like Rush!
    Bill O’Reilly is a TRAITOR and is part of the communist group who is trying to take us down!

  159. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Hey FS,

    I notice you don’t comment WHEN you voted for Bush 41 & 43.

    Did you vote for Bush in 88, and Clinton in 92 and 96?

    Did you vote for Gore in 2000 and Bush in 04?

    You sir are a real character.

  160. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    If Trump runs in the primary I will work for him to secure the Republican nomination. If he runs as in Independent, not only will he split the vote insuring another Marxist term, but many Republicans will not vote for him as he will be viewed as a shill.

  161. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Ginger,

    Thomas was the INTERVIEW in Playboy, not a pictorial (yuck).

    I agree whole heartedly with your comment of 10:18am.

    That’s what I like about Wilkow, he talks about the Constitution.

  162. Unlike Trump, I have been a Conservative Independent my entire Adult Life and I voted for President Reagan and Bush 41 & 43.

    http://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/donald_trump.asp

    Political Campaign Contributions by Donald Trump (1999 to Present) – $445,100

    DEMOCRAT: 59.81%

    REPUBLICAN: 40.19%

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -2,300 11/10/2009

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -1,700 11/09/2009

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat 600 11/12/2007

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 200 11/01/2006

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 12/02/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 900 09/30/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 03/23/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 05/01/2002
    Trump’s Praise of Hillary and Obama on CNN with Wolf Blitzer:

  163. Rosemary Woodhouse | April 13, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    If Trump runs in the primary I will work for him to secure the Republican nomination. If he runs as in Independent, not only will he split the vote insuring another Marxist term, but many Republicans will not vote for him as he will be viewed as a shill.

    ====================================
    Trump is not going to get the Repub nomination and he stated on CBS that he intends to run as an Independent. Also listen to how he praises Hillary and Obama in the video on CNN and look at all the money that he has donated to Hillary’s Campaign.

  164. Is this from the “Bill Bennett”? If so, I like him. Gotta go now.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2704047/posts
    Trump off to a promising start (Bill Bennett)
    CNN ^ | 4/13/2011 | William Bennett

    Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:48:05 AM by SonOfDarkSkies

    For the past three months, Donald Trump has been making a lot of news about his possible run for the presidency. It started in February when he spoke at the annual gathering of CPAC.

    Proving he is willing to call ’em as he sees ’em, and not following the traditional advice for prospective candidates that it’s not a good idea to anger your audience, he jumped right in to challenge the Ron Paul supporters in the crowd, saying of Paul, “He has zero chance of getting elected.”

    Trump was booed and jeered, but he did not care. He did not couch or backtrack. Instead he looked right into the crowd and then said something that converted the heckles to applause, “If I run, and if I win, this country will be respected again.”

    What most observers picked up from this small moment was: A) Trump would not be a poll-tested, talking point candidate. B) He would be willing to challenge audiences in front of him, caring less about their applause and more about speaking his own mind. C) There is an authenticity to him. There was something about his speaking up for a newly respected America that rang honest and sincere — and most importantly, was needed.

    Americans have always had a fascination with personalities and families of tremendous wealth and unique celebrity. Think for a moment as to why the upcoming royal wedding is set to be the largest television event in history. There is a capturing of the imagination. There is a bit of envy. And there’s even a bit of self-reflective possibility that one could achieve equal fame and riches.

    (Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com …

    ——————————————————————————–
    Take care,
    Zach Jones

    GYEBALEKO (J BA LE KO) – Luganda for ‘Thank You For Your Work’
    My Personal Commenting Code

  165. Maybe this is the Mystery and Truth about the ZERO..if so we Really have a MAJOR PROBLEM!!!Unbelievable!!

  166. @Interested Bystander | April 13, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    I am going to miss my free sattelite radio when it expires. Patriot network is great. Church and Wilcow the best!!

  167. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    FS,

    Can you explain this comment:

    “Free Speech | April 7, 2011 at 7:19 am |

    Hillary had all of this info 3 years ago. Trump’s is just revealing what Hillary’s investigators had 3 or more years ago, but more power to him for raising the issue. Now that Trump showed up in second place in one poll in NH maybe more Repubs will make strong demands that bo show his BC.”

    And then you commented this not even and hour later:

    “Free Speech | April 7, 2011 at 8:10 am |

    ms. helga on April 7, 2011 at 8:03 am

    FS – Think about this. Even if Trump doesn’t run he has torpedoed Obama with what CW has been saying all along and Hillary will be seen as part of the scandal. Don’t you call that a win-win situation?

    ————————
    Only win I see is bo getting indicted convicted and imprisoned.

    I don’t see how Hillary is part of bo’s BC fraud?”

    Would you please explain which of these comments you “stand by”?

    You flip flop more than a fish out of water.

  168. http://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/donald_trump.asp

    Political Campaign Contributions by Donald Trump (1999 to Present) – $445,100

    DEMOCRAT: 59.81%

    REPUBLICAN: 40.19%

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -2,300 11/10/2009

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat -1,700 11/09/2009

    HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT Democrat 600 11/12/2007

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 200 11/01/2006

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 12/02/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 900 09/30/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 03/23/2005

    FRIENDS OF HILLARY Democrat 1,000 05/01/2002

    Trump’s Praise of Hillary and Obama on CNN with Wolf Blitzer:

  169. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Pat 1789,

    Just remember to spell it correctly (that’s what he says when he gives out his web site info):

    It’s WilKow.

  170. Interested Bystander | April 13, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    Hey All,

    IF Romney gets the nomination of the Republican Party, I see MILLIONS and MILLIONS of conservatives jumping OFF the Republican “band wagon”, and voting for a third party candidate.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    BS
    I will vote for Romney any day over a third party candidate.
    Independent candidate right now for President is a losing candidate.
    I am sure the D-Rats would love to see a 3rd party emerge right now, the Marxist would be a shoe in.

  171. The Obama Deception

  172. Pat 1789 | April 13, 2011 at 10:39 am |
    Interested Bystander | April 13, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    Hey All,

    IF Romney gets the nomination of the Republican Party, I see MILLIONS and MILLIONS of conservatives jumping OFF the Republican “band wagon”, and voting for a third party candidate.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    BS
    I will vote for Romney any day over a third party candidate.
    Independent candidate right now for President is a losing candidate.
    I am sure the D-Rats would love to see a 3rd party emerge right now, the Marxist would be a shoe in.

    ===================================
    Ditto!

  173. gregnh says:
    April 13, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Sarah Obama Said Barack Obama Jr. Was An Orphan in Kenya

  174. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    Barring any unforeseen circumstance I, a staunch Republican, will not vote for Romney. Romney’12=McCain’08. He will be set up to take the fall ensuring another Marxist term which translates to the final phase of the dismantling and utter destruction of this nation. A Romney voter, knowing what happened w/ McCain is complicit in the destruction.

  175. What Romney family Lawyers? this article is pure BS.

    http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfreedman/2011/04/12/romney-to-trump-obama-doesnt-need-a-birth-certificate/

    Lefty is pulling out all of the stops, they do not want this issue heard and will do anything to destroy Consevatives and the Tea Party.

  176. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    “Pat 1789 | April 13, 2011 at 10:39 am |

    Interested Bystander | April 13, 2011 at 9:54 am |Hey All,

    IF Romney gets the nomination of the Republican Party, I see MILLIONS and MILLIONS of conservatives jumping OFF the Republican “band wagon”, and voting for a third party candidate.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    BS
    I will vote for Romney any day over a third party candidate.
    Independent candidate right now for President is a losing candidate.
    I am sure the D-Rats would love to see a 3rd party emerge right now, the Marxist would be a shoe in.”

    Pat,

    I can only give my view, I’m not of the view that I am going to change anyone’s mind.

    However, I will comment this:

    It’s time we do what is right for the Country, instead of holding our nose and voting for someone who is a Democrat lite.

    I would much rather vote for someone who has the correct message.

    It’s called having integrity.

    I’m not suggesting that your integrity is less than mine, what I am suggesting is that MY integrity doesn’t care WHO wins, as long as I know in my heart that I voted for the RIGHT candidate.

    If that’s a losing candidate, then so be it, that’s why I voted for Perot TWICE, without hesitation.

    He had a PLAN, and from what I heard, his plan would have WORKED.

    Wouldn’t it be nice to know what our Country would be like if Perot would have won?

  177. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    “Pat 1789 | April 13, 2011 at 10:50 am | What Romney family Lawyers? this article is pure BS.

    http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfreedman/2011/04/12/romney-to-trump-obama-doesnt-need-a-birth-certificate/

    Lefty is pulling out all of the stops, they do not want this issue heard and will do anything to destroy Consevatives and the Tea Party.”

    But yet you commented that you would vote for him?

    I’m not getting it.

  178. Our only chance is Sarah Palin and or Michelle Bachman that people can really trust that loves America!

    Please one or both of you run for president then pick Congressman Allen West as our Vice-President. I do not trust the others!

    I get emails from Congressman West and you will not believe the things he has to go through…Why because the demo-rats/communist pigs FEAR HIM!

  179. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Everytime FS Posts that list of donations, I ,am going to list the reasons why Donald gave to Democrats – WELL (AsRR might say)

    1 – He lives in New York- A Democrat state
    2 – His Congressionnal representatives are all Democrats.
    3 – His Senators are all Democrats
    4 – His building tenants are all Democrats
    5 – He lives in New York City -A Democrat city
    6 – His businesses are in New York City
    7 – Most of his clients and customers are Democrats
    8 – And as any good and positive Business Man he sees a great potential.
    HAHAHAHA

    PS – He graduated from Ney York Military Academy
    DUTY-HONOR-COUNTRY

  180. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    HEAD’S UP, GREAT ARTICLE:

    DEATH TRAP DEMOCRATS

    By Peter Ferrara on 4.13.11 @ 6:08AM

    “Somehow Democrats are convinced that the American people will come to realize the error of their ways and turn to embrace taxation that seizes most of their money for the government to spend, rejecting traditional American prosperity.”
    [snip]
    “… Obamacare . . . The best that can be said of them is that now that they have passed the bill they still don’t understand what is in it.”
    [snip]
    “That $15 trillion is such a big number that it is hard to understand what it means. But the government’s own actuaries and accountants have been explaining that as well. Medicare’s Chief Actuary reports that even before these cuts already two-thirds of hospitals were losing money on Medicare patients. With $15 trillion in future cuts, health providers will either have to withdraw from serving Medicare patients, or eventually go into bankruptcy.”

    http://spectator.org/archives/2011/04/13/death-trap-democrats

  181. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    Mr. Bill(ms.helga) | April 13, 2011 at 11:03 am |
    Everytime FS Posts that list of donations, I ,am going to list the reasons why Donald gave to Democrats
    ******************************************
    Donald gave to Democrats because HE IS A BUSINESSMAN, we all know how corrupt the mafioso is in NY, give me a break, his hubcaps would be gone gone gone

  182. Trump is going to be on Rush in the 2nd hour!

  183. woops- On Friday. 2nd Hour of Rush.

  184. Interested Bystander | April 13, 2011 at 10:54 am |
    “Pat 1789 | April 13, 2011 at 10:50 am | What Romney family Lawyers? this article is pure BS.

    http://blogs.forbes.com/danielfreedman/2011/04/12/romney-to-trump-obama-doesnt-need-a-birth-certificate/

    Lefty is pulling out all of the stops, they do not want this issue heard and will do anything to destroy Consevatives and the Tea Party.”

    But yet you commented that you would vote for him?

    I’m not getting it.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    I thought I was clear. The article quoting supposed Romney family attorneys is BS.
    What attorneys? Who are they? Where’s the quote?
    I am suspect of people pushing 3rd party candidates when the only beneficiary are D-Rats. By your comments , you have an issue with Romney, I do not at this point.

  185. @swan | April 13, 2011 at 11:14 am |

    Thanks

  186. Our only chance is Sarah Palin and or Michelle Bachman that people can really trust that loves America! Please one or both of you run for president then pick Congressman Allen West as our Vice-President. I do not trust the others! I get emails from Congressman West and you will not believe the things he has to go through…Why because the demo-rats/communist pigs FEAR HIM!

    By Ginger on April 13, 2011 at 10:58 am
    —————-
    I agree. Bachmann, Palin, and West are true Conservatives that we need to support. We don’t need to waste our votes on fake repubs who have supported democrats their entire lives.

  187. CW, I,m from Massachusetts and one of the biggest problems for us is going to be the fragmented Republican Party. Mitt Romney cannot be elected president, moreover if he gets the nomination and Donald Trump runs as an Independent BO will most certainly get reelected. We need to concentrate on discrediting Mitt Romney, the original Architect of OBAMA CARE.
    I’m crossing my fingers that between the birth certificate and the SS # BO will have to resign. Romney announced yesterday that the Birth Certificate is a non issue. He’s already trying to discredit the Donald.

    Keep up the good work.

    Regards,
    Joe

  188. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    ATTENTION-ATTENTION

    We need to find out if O’s sister Maya, who was born in Indonesia, has a Hawaii birth certificate too. This woul be very curiuos!.

    PS – Remember this quote –

    “MSNBC IS THE RECTAL THERMOMETER FOR POTOMAC FEVER”
    -Mr.Bill(ms.helga)
    “USURPERSVILLE”

  189. The simple fact that BOOING and JEERING doesn”t seem to bother Donald Trump tells me a lot about him. It tells me that he has his own beliefs, which he has determined via his own effort. It is not likely that he will change his mind about anything. That I also like. Further as CW implied he is probably closer to being a Christian than a hell of a lot of others,…. particularly Glenn Beck. While it is far too early for me to make up my mind, as each day passes it seems that I am more attracted to his DEFIANCE of the leftist a$$holes. To me this is evidence of a STRONG WILLED person who indeed has his act together.

  190. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Sorry – But please say a prayer for the family of the women who drove her car with three small children into the Newburg(N.Y.) River taking their little lives and her own. What’s happening Folks?

  191. Here is what Romney did say.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/romney-i-believe-the-president-was-born-in-the-united-states-video.php

    Looks like Obots and Hilbots are back on this blog attempting to push 3rd party candidates. It never fails…..

  192. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    LAME CHERRY APRIL 13, 2011

    What Mr. Levin neglects to comprehend is the Birther issue is key psychologically. If those millionaire talkers would comprehend what Donald Trump does that this is a sexy issue, then the pressure would build on Obama voters, because once the next step takes place in the literal promise that when the GOP takes control over both houses in 2012, if Mr. Obama usurps another election, he will find a Congressional Federal Judge hauling him out of the White House on High Crimes……….no impeachment, just arrest for Mr. Obama and his regime of frauds.

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

  193. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Rush is “having a secret meeting tonight in D.C”.- I would love to know what that’s about?

  194. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    LAME CHERRY APRIL 13, 2011

    Mark Levin in his bunker does not care apparently that an American was savaged and destroyed by the Obama regime as he never says a damn thing about it like Limbaugh or Hannity.

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

    REMEMBER: THOSE TWO BORDER PATROL GUARDS WERE SAVAGED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION!!!

  195. Looks like Obots and Hilbots are back on this blog attempting to push 3rd party candidates. It never fails…..

    By Pat 1789 on April 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    ————-
    Obots/Hillbots are only fooling themselves and turning more and more true conservatives off of Trump.

  196. SHERMAN TANK's avatar SHERMAN TANK

    VERY INTERESTING ON BIRTH CERTIFICATE *****************
    we ***are *** on the right track!!!!!

    LAME CHERRY APRIL 13, 2011

    Why do you think the left and Obama is so focused on the Birthers? It is because it holds water and it is because Obama by joking about it, is trying to innoculate hisself from it, as Coulter, Limbaugh and now Mark Levin do Obama’s work for him.

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/

  197. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Did someone say Rush is having Trump on Today?

  198. Looks like Lefty just moved the goal posts. They now say that it doen’t matter where BHO was born. His NBC status came through the mom. Ha!
    Fun Times watching these weasels squirm!
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/trumps-birther-libel-and-american-history/237217/

  199. Old Salt @ 12:06

    You are right on the money.

  200. “I have maintained from the beginning that the Birther issue is not the issue which will bring Obama down. I have stated it is thee issue which Democrats if they were put into a corner to save themselves would resort to in dumping Obama”
    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/
    Exactly!

  201. I can barely bring myself to listen to Glenn Beck anymore. Just pass go AND straight to New Zeal blog AND Trevor Louden.

  202. http://www.commieblaster.com updates and more

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com

    http://www.larrysinclair.org

    TRUMP FOR PRES YES CAN NOT BE BOUGHT AND UNAFRAID

  203. Looks like Obots and Hilbots are back on this blog attempting to push 3rd party candidates. It never fails…..
    By Pat 1789 on April 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    —————
    Obots/Hillbots

  204. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Pat 1789 | April 13, 2011 at 12:34 pm |
    ______________________________________________

    This is what lawyers have done to this nation.

  205. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    PS – Famous lawyer line- “Do you trust me, or your Lieing Eyes!!

  206. BUDGET CUT SCAM

    ALSO OREILLY OUT OF HIS STUPOR

    http://WWW.COMMIEBLASTER.COM

  207. Looks like Obots and Hilbots are back on this blog attempting to push 3rd party candidates. It never fails…..

    By Pat 1789 on April 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    —————

    Obots/Hillbots tried to destroy CW and lure fools to openthreads but only obot/hillbots post there so now the obot/hillbots are infesting CW again.

  208. EX COMMUNIST ADVISOR EXPOSES BHO’S COMMUNIST BACKGROUND

    http://WWW.COMMIEBLASTER.COM

  209. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Laeyer line – I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I don’t think you realize that what you think heard I said is not what I meant.

  210. Rush said boehner has already caved on Debt Ceiling. bo is now BSing so I turned off my radio.

  211. TRUMP NEEDS TO BE NOMINATED BY THE REPUBLICANS

    ALL THE OTHERS POLITIANS ENOUGH OF THEM

    TRUMP TURN AMERICA AROUND AND HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE

    NO ONE ELSE HAS THE CARISMA AND TRUMP CAN CARRY ALL OF AMERICA

  212. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Watching “O” now. He appears to be shrinking before my very eyes. He seems very nervous. Listening to Rush too. I wish Rush would just be quiet and let us watch this. I have never seen the “O” look so insecure. His self-doubt looks scary and he is whistling as he speaks more than usual.

  213. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    PS – He used the Word – “Absolutely” , but tha’s another story!.

  214. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    IS OBAMA INELIGIBILITY A SIDE SHOW OR THE MAIN EVENT?
    By J.B. Williams

    The Supreme Court that has dodged the question for three years will continue to dodge the question. Obama’s name will appear on the 2012 presidential ballot in all 50 states and anyone opposed will be labeled a racist.

    But the historian’s definition is not only factually correct – it leaves Obama no escape route and we don’t even need to find the missing birth certificate.
    http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams144.htm

    JB is on target with this article.

  215. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Truth Now | April 13, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
    ____________________________________________

    Would you believe that they should have last week. TIME IS RUNNING OUT FAST. Trump , I hope has already started to gather the most honest and successful Business men ever assembled and hatch a plan quickly. KEEP THE POLITICIANS OUT.

  216. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    As usual, the researchers at WTPOTUS nail it.

    Birthers Correct FactCheck’s False Claims about Trump

  217. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    MsHelga- I read that piece about the word “absolutely”. I assure you, I am no obot, but it’s become a culturally ingrained word which is now part of my vocabulary and I admit to using it on a regular basis! Some theories don’t hold H2O.

  218. Rosemary —

    Don’t you think that donald Trump wants the privilege to tell BHO, ‘You’re fired!’

    It would be a nice going away present from the Donald on January 20, 2013.

  219. I swear there is two of them…One is Barry and the other is Steve. Watch this one kinda suck on his lower lip! The upper teeth on each side is pointed and sometimes they are not. I see other differences but….. I wish an expert would read the tea leaves so to speak on this joker. How about some close ups on his lips? Maybe sometimes he will not have a shaving scar on his rt side chin and sometimes not!

    I can’t hear that sucker but he sure is moving a lot of hot air! The problem is hitting the mute button only delays having what he says shoved at me with the media repeating his ass all the time. I then spend several days on HGTV or Food Network so I don’t have to hurry and grab the remote and barf bag.

    Back when he was running for president I read some where that twins were born over Indonesia or Kenya (can’t remember which) and one dies in an airplane crash! Has any one else heard that
    No I have not gone nuts yet! hehehe

    Ok! I will shut up now I just acn not stand that sucker!

  220. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    I do indeed, Bob.

  221. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    And I didn’t respond with, “absolutely”! 🙂

  222. “House majority leader slams Donald’s push on Obama’s eligibility”

    “During an interview on CNN’s “American Morning” today, Cantor was asked, “Would you support a Donald Trump candidacy, especially with all this birther talk?”

    The Republican from Virginia said, “No, I don’t think he is really serious when we launch a – see a campaign launched on the birther issue.””

    [video at link]

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=286621

  223. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    Which would have been cute if I had, Oh well.

  224. Interested Bystander: To be influential, one must first have an audience. . .

  225. Perhaps Rush is having dinner with Trump tonight.

  226. Mr. Bill(ms.helga)'s avatar Mr. Bill(ms.helga)

    Latest Poll –

    “Donald Trump tops latest poll”

    http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/donald-trump-tops-latest-poll/

  227. Rosemary Woodhouse's avatar Rosemary Woodhouse

    I always liked Cantor. This is yet another WTF moment.

    Yes, I guess they are all in it…all in it together.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFwW8eAy4U&feature=related

  228. Ginger | April 13, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    I swear there is two of them.
    ***********************
    Ginger, I share your feelings about the differences in appearances that are manifesting themselves. I haven’t observed as many of the things you point out, but one thing I’ve noticed for some time is the difference in EARS.

    Some pics show the ears much closer to the head, while in others his ears are flopping out like jug handles. Also, have you noticed that the scar on his left side not only is on the scalp, but extends downward into the throat/chin area?

    There is something very, very odd about this usurper! Everything is outrageously strange – bizarre! Things seem to be reaching critical mass on all fronts.

  229. Ask the freak show, how can one be a natural born citzen of the USA, and also be a citizen of Kenya?

  230. Trump is in Political No-Man’s-Land.

    Trump is not welcomed by the dems because he is attacking their obamessiah for Hillary now.

    Trump is not welcomed by the repubs because he has been a demRat supporter his entire life.

    Trump is not welcomed by Conservative Independents because he supported bo and Hillary.

  231. Philo-Publius's avatar Philo-Publius

    As a citizen of the world BHO believes he is a natural born citizen of any country.

  232. Interesting article:

    “Mike Huckabee, Donald Trump Meet Privately”

    (quote):
    Mr. Huckabee mentioned the meeting in passing on Fox News on Monday and it follows a number of polls showing Mr. Huckabee as a Republican front-runner. It is unclear exactly what was discussed during the meeting.

    Read more: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/mike-huckabee-donald-trump-meet-privately/#ixzz1JQljrDyg

  233. Free Speech | April 13, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    Trump is in Political No-Man’s-Land.
    *************************
    Trump knows exactly where he is!

  234. In comments:

    “Breaking News … via the grapevine … more news to follow”

    HB 2177 ELIGIBILITY BILL IS PASSED BY AZ STATE SENATE! 21 YES VOTES! (We were hoping for 18) BILL MOVES ON TO HOUSE VOTE NEXT WEEK!

    CDR Kerchner (Ret)”

    http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7466841558189356289&postID=7779117805802700579

  235. Philo-Publius | April 13, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    As a citizen of the world BHO believes he is a natural born citizen of any country.
    **********************
    Don’t doubt that one bit! Delusions of grandeur.

  236. As FS is not a Republican he is not included in the polling data. TRUMP appears to be polling quite well with registered Republicans. When FS joins our party, then perhaps his opinion will matter in the primaries. Until then, he sounds like a Chihuahua.

  237. “Atty. Taitz reports: I got a phone call from Lyle Rowland, sponsor of the presidential eligibility certification bill in Missouri.The bill finally passed the committees and is going to a full vote of the house this week or next week.

    I got a phone call from Leo Berman, Texas state senator, sponsor of the presidential eligibility certification bill in TX. Mr. Berman is extremely upset with members of the committee refusing to vote on the bill.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/arizona-senate-passes-proof-of.html

  238. Hey FS, didn’t you throw the full weight of your support behind DT just 2 days ago? You’re sounding a bit bi-polar today, just sayin’. . .

  239. I have never supported trump for president.

  240. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    “Bankroller | April 13, 2011 at 1:33 pm |

    Interested Bystander: To be influential, one must first have an audience. . .”

    Well Bankroller,

    Even if I am an audience of one, he has influenced me.

    Maybe by putting Wilkow’s name out there, others might do some research and see/hear for themselves. Obviously YOU have heard of Wilkow, can I ask what your opinion of his “message” is?

    Rush started with a small audience also.

    I’m simply commenting that as far as conservatives go, Wilkow “trumps” Rush, in my opinion.

    FS,

    I see you can’t bring yourself to answer my questions about your flip flopping within an hour a few days ago.

    But I would like to comment on this:

    “Obots/Hillbots tried to destroy CW and lure fools to openthreads but only obot/hillbots post there so now the obot/hillbots are infesting CW again.”

    If you are referring to me, let me make this clear to you:

    I will wear the “Obot/Hillbot” label with pride, because all it really does is show that you have NO reply to what I have asked.

    You are such a hypocrite, you post comment after comment about “personal attacks”, but yet you continually “personally attack” me for simply asking you to clarify your stance on an issue that you changed your mind on within an hour a few days ago.

    All the name calling does is show your desperation, kind of like when Obama supporters can’t defend him, they pull out the race card.

    Did you vote for Bush in either 1992, or 2000? I already get that you voted Clinton in 1996.

    Seems to me that all you are interested in is voting for the “winner”, and NOT voting for who would be best for the Country.

    You are the one who brought up the subject, and not just once either.

    Then I’d like to respond to Pat:

    “Pat 1789 | April 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm |

    “Looks like Obots and Hilbots are back on this blog attempting to push 3rd party candidates. It never fails…..”

    If you are referring to me, I am not “pushing” anyone. I haven’t decided yet. With that commented, let me state again, your “personal attack” by calling me an “Obot/Hilbot” shows YOUR desperation. I am being VERY respectful to both you and FS.

    If you were quoting the article when you commented:

    “Lefty is pulling out all of the stops, they do not want this issue heard and will do anything to destroy Consevatives and the Tea Party.”

    Then I simply took your comment wrong. I thought by your comment, you were calling Romney a “Lefty”. If that is not the case, then I simply misunderstood your comment.

  241. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    “Paxson | April 13, 2011 at 2:00 pm |

    As FS is not a Republican he is not included in the polling data. TRUMP appears to be polling quite well with registered Republicans. When FS joins our party, then perhaps his opinion will matter in the primaries. Until then, he sounds like a Chihuahua.”

    And boy do my ankles hurt!!!!!

    VERY well stated Paxson.

  242. GORDO | April 13, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    ————–
    When does Bill become effective 20120 or 2013?

  243. “Bill O’Reilly Aids and Abets Hawaii Department of Health Law-Breakers”

    “MAKES PATENTLY FALSE STATEMENT ABOUT HAWAII LAW WHICH “PREVENTS” THE RELEASE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATES”

    Bill O’Reilly Aids and Abets Hawaii Department of Health Law-Breakers

  244. Lots of pros and cons for DT being cited here. I for one hope he runs. It has to be a candidate who makes the birther issue. You see only a candidate who runs will eventually be able to clear the one bar that has never been met….STANDING and damages. If he were to lose whether it gets BO in or not we’ll all know DT’s true colors if and when he ever files a lawsuit.

  245. Many people do not believe that the scotus was or is helping Soetoro. This is because these same people are still his supporters.. These are the very people who will indeed be the first to scream their sick invectives, the second that anyone even dares to say something contrary to what they believe. All because they are HUNG UP ON a believer and follower of ISLAM who might as well have been a partner in the murder of nearly 3000 people. To me he is ONE of the perpetrators! The mass murder of those people included women and children,I’ll bet that that made the lovers of ISLAM feel very powerful. I personally look upon the usurper as ONE OF THE TWENTY who were involved in the attack upon our WTC,and also a party to the attack on the USS COLE To date NOBODY has ever DISPROVEN SUCH AN ALLEGATION. When the subject comes up his supporters hastily try to change it. I like TRUMP because he like myself simply doesn’t give a damn what the CATCALLERS, AND DEVIATES think,or have to say. We both have paid our dues.
    ##################################################
    Has anyone been able to determine if a birth certificate was ever necessary to get married in Illinois? I would be greatly beholden to anyone who can find out FOR SURE.

  246. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    “Bankroller | April 13, 2011 at 2:24 pm |

    Hey FS, didn’t you throw the full weight of your support behind DT just 2 days ago? You’re sounding a bit bi-polar today, just sayin’. . .”

    Better watch it Bankroller or you’ll find youself being “personally attacked” by being labeled an “Obot/Hillbot”

    What really gets me is that you are correct, a few days ago FS commented something to the affect of :

    “Well that does it, I can now vote for Trump for President” (I think he scrubbed that comment, I looked for it, but maybe I didn’t go back far enough)

    Now HE seems to be supporting Hillary, but yet continues to “persoanlly attack” folks who are simply asking LEGITIMATE questions.

    Come back tomorrow, and FS will have a different opinion than he does today.

  247. Interested Bystander: The question was *most* influential conservative, and since Rush has the largest audience in talk radio and the fact that his trailblazing work paved the way for Hannity, Savage, Levin, Humphries, Wilkow, et. al.; he easily earns that title.

  248. “Free Speech | April 13, 2011 at 2:38 pm”

    Waiting for details.

  249. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    RJS commented:

    “Lots of pros and cons for DT being cited here. I for one hope he runs. It has to be a candidate who makes the birther issue. You see only a candidate who runs will eventually be able to clear the one bar that has never been met….STANDING and damages. If he were to lose whether it gets BO in or not we’ll all know DT’s true colors if and when he ever files a lawsuit.”

    Keyes was on the ballot in California, and the Judge there threw the case out.

    The whole issue is ridiculous. Obama should release ALL of his records, and let the cards fall where they fall.

    The “transparent” President changes his colors more than FS does, and THAT my friends “says” a whole lot.

  250. If DT doesn’t bring up the Connecticut SS# by the end of June, I would be concerned about his intentions. The SS# issue is all over the internet and it is the one thing that Factcheck, Snopes, O’Reilly (who said he would sort out all the internet chatter last night), or media never touch to refute it.

  251. Free Speech | April 13, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    I have never supported trump for president.
    *************************************
    FS, you may not recall your statement on April 7, 2011 at 9:50 am; but I do:

    Free Speech | April 7, 2011 at 9:50 am |
    After looking at the Trump interviews that you True Patriots graciously provided, my opinion of Trump has changed.

    TRUMP IS GREAT FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND GREAT FOR AMERICA!

    Whoever sees this interview on YouTube first. Please post it here.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42469716#42469716

  252. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Bankroller commented:

    “Interested Bystander: The question was *most* influential conservative, and since Rush has the largest audience in talk radio and the fact that his trailblazing work paved the way for Hannity, Savage, Levin, Humphries, Wilkow, et. al.; he easily earns that title.”

    Ok you win, Rush DOES have a larger audience.

    However, Rush hasn’t and I suspect will NOT breach the eligibility issue, so in essence he has decided to indoctrinate his audience, and NOT teach them, which Wilkow does, in my opinion. Wilkow has opened my eyes to many aspects of the Constitution.

    Wilkow is a TEACHER, and Rush is an ENTERTAINER.

    Just like Hollywood, the entertainers “influence” much more than the teachers do.

    Rush makes jokes about Obama’s eligibility, Wilkow actually points you to learning spots about the issue. Rush TELLS you what to think, Wilkow points out information and provides places that backs up what he has said.

    I am influenced more by people who push me to LEARN, and put off by people who think they can TELL me what to think.

    I believe that is why Rush is losing his audience.

    I still like Rush, don’t get me wrong, but as far as someone “influencing” me, Wilkow, at this time, gets my nod.

    Thank you for being respectful in your comments to me.

  253. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    Thank you for pointing out FS’s hypocrisy once again Bankroller.

    I guess I didn’t look back far enough, or maybe I didn’t scroll down enough when I found the above.

    Don’t be surprised if FS doesn’t answer your question.

  254. I’m glad trump is raising BC issue. I do think that is great for America, but I do NOT support trump for president.

    I favor Bachmann and West but I am keeping an open mind.

  255. Interested Bystander: If I had access to (i.e. wanted to pay for) XM or Sirius, I would definitely give a listen to Wilkow.

  256. Bankroller | April 13, 2011 at 3:00 pm |

    You forgot to add, FS was for Trump before he was against him. Or was it, he was against him before he was for him before he was against him? It’s hard to keep up with a whirling dervish!

  257. If trump does not have the courage to appear on Rush’s and come clean about his intention to run as an independent and his support of Hillary, trump will soon lose what little support from conservatives that he had.

  258. I like West and Bachmann.

    In these trouble times of radical terrorists we need someone with a military background. Bachmann is a woman of faith and conviction and not afraid to speak the truth.

    But right now Trump is a hero. And Monica Crowley.

    And thank you for not feeding the trolls.

  259. I come here several times everday since the beginning. This place fits for me. I realized that when CW posts special Christmas and Easter messages on those days. Yes, comments can be repeated often and taken out of context. When FS reposts I believe it can be for the benefit of new readers. I don’t believe Paxson is a Hillary supporter. I don’t think FS flip flops. I like it here, just wish everyone stayed focused on the real cause and stopped the infighting. Get rid of BO!

  260. Interested Bystander's avatar Interested Bystander

    “Bankroller | April 13, 2011 at 3:08 pm |

    Interested Bystander: If I had access to (i.e. wanted to pay for) XM or Sirius, I would definitely give a listen to Wilkow.”

    Feel free to refer to me as IB (it will save a few key strokes).

    Jonah,

    A couple days ago FS went after YOU. Don’t believe that he won’t do it again.

    Bachmann needs to explain why she voted for the Patriot Act. I believe West also voted for the extension of the Patriot Act.

    I simply do not agree with the clause in the Patriot Act that says that agents can intercept information without a warrant. THAT is “illegal search and seizure” in my opinion. There are provisions in law that says you can obtain a warrant AFTER information has been gathered, but yet even that is left out of the Patriot Act.

    I like West. I like his message, but his status drops a notch when he supports unconstitutional legislation.

    And would you please be more specific about who the “trolls” are?

  261. JS | April 13, 2011 at 3:23 pm | I come here several times everday since the beginning. This place fits for me. I realized that when CW posts special Christmas and Easter messages on those days. Yes, comments can be repeated often and taken out of context. When FS reposts I believe it can be for the benefit of new readers…I don’t think FS flip flops. I like it here, just wish everyone stayed focused on the real cause and stopped the infighting. Get rid of BO! ————————–
    I agree. We had intelligent discussions here for a week and a half while the obot/hillbots were in moderation. As soon as they return they start their personal attacks because their obot/hillbot arguments are weak and indefensible.

  262. RJS. Thanks. I definitely have never, not would ever support Hillary. Also, I don’t really care that FS is all over the board in his opinions. Or that he gives his opinions on Republican candidates that he won’t be given an opportunity to weigh in on by voting until the general election (unless he commits to join the Republican party ).. I have issues with him because he doesn’t APPEAR to be a very nice guy. I could be wrong as I don’t know him personally and CW vouches for him. The other blog is Aussie’s creation. I don’t want to speak for her motivations for creating it. I personally don’t see it as giving up on CW. In fact I am more committed than ever. However, it is a place where we can discuss matters without distractions and unfounded accusations. We are in a serious time and knee jerk reactionaries really are counterproductive.

  263. Damn android. “NOR would ever….support Hillary “

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