Mystery Missile Launch explained by US Notice to Mariners Report?, Citizen Wells open thread, November 11, 2010

Mystery Missile Launch explained by US Notice to Mariners Report?

What is Big Brother up to?

From Citizens for Legitimate Government.
“U.S. ‘Notice to Mariners’ Report May Explain Mystery Missile Launch

U.S. ‘Notice to Mariners’ Report May Explain Mystery Missile Launch Posted by Lori Price, www.legitgov.org 11 Nov 2010 A ‘Notice to Mariners’ report entry may explain the missile launch earlier this week from Southern California waters near Catalina Island. Page 55 of the current ‘Notice to Mariners’ report, dated 6 November 2010, notes upcoming firing operations in that area. The report is published weekly by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and prepared jointly with the National Ocean Service and U.S. Coast Guard.”

“NOTICE TO MARNERS
No. 45
06 NOVEMBER 2010
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Published Weekly by the
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
Prepared Jointly with the
National Ocean Service and U.S. Coast Guard

Department of Defense

“CALIFORNIA.

MISSILES.

1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z

DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER

SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE

1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY

IN AREA BOUND BY

34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,

33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,

35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,

34-04N 119-04W.

2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE

AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT

PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)

SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING

THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE

WITHIN THE RANGE.”

Read more:

http://www.legitgov.org/US-Notice-Mariners-Report-May-Explain-Mystery-Missile-Launch

53 responses to “Mystery Missile Launch explained by US Notice to Mariners Report?, Citizen Wells open thread, November 11, 2010

  1. Yes Zach,
    Happy Veteran’s Day!
    and God bless all who have served.

  2. Would have been better for the Military to just say “no comment” on the launch. Public relations nightmare by saying “we have no idea”. That makes our government look disorganized and commander of the military look like an idiot……oh wait….

  3. Here is a link to an excellent reminder of the ultimate sacrifice so many of our veterans have made:
    http://gwgjlg.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/ths-blood-of-many-has-soaked-into-this-earth-so-we-may-walk-it-freely/#comments

    The Blood of Many Has Soaked into This Earth So We May
    Walk It Freely

    This was compiled by Greg Goss, May 31,
    2010, and is a collection of cemeteries around the world where Americans have died fighting for our liberty.
    Please take the time to go to this site and ponder each view for a few moments to let the reality sink in.

    My comment on his blog at that time was, in part,
    “Oh, Greg!! As I scrolled down the collection of cemeteries wherein lie our fallen heroes, it became nearly impossible to grasp the magnitude of it all. Tears fill my eyes and heart…..We are faced with a formidable enemy here in our midst and enemies galore outside our borders. May God bless you for your faithfulness!”
    *********************************
    It is over five months later, and it’s Veterans Day. We owe so much to both the living and the dead heroes. The battle still rages, but our faith is firm and our gratitude never ending.

  4. CW – I wonder if the following case will be one to watch to see if the Supreme Courts gives some insight how they view the “natural born Citizen” phrase. It would not be necessary to the case but they may take the opportunity to give a hint or demonstrate the difference between Natural Born Citizen and ordinary citizen.
    —–
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-court-citizenship-20101111,0,2338681.story

    Supreme Court discusses gender discrimination in citizenship case
    A deportee born in Mexico to an unwed American father says he should be deemed a U.S. citizen. But under U.S. law, unwed fathers have a harder time than unwed mothers in passing on their citizenship.

    ….Congress has made it easier for unwed American mothers than it is for unwed fathers to pass on their citizenship. The foreign-born baby of an unmarried American mother is a U.S. citizen if the mother lived in the United States for at least one year. But under a 1952 law, an unmarried American father could not pass on his citizenship to his foreign-born child unless the father had lived at least five years in the United States after age 14….
    ….But the prospects for Flores-Villar soon faded. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy said he saw no reason to second-guess Congress in setting such rules. Scalia said the court had never ordered the government to declare someone a U.S. citizen.

    The Constitution says children born in the United States are citizens, regardless of their parents’ status. However, “no foreign-born person has a free-standing right” to citizenship, the government said.

    Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. suggested the answer in this case might be to make it just as hard for unwed American mothers to pass on their citizenship to a foreign-born child. “The remedy for an equal protection violation is to treat everybody the same,” he said. But that would be of no help to Flores-Villar, he noted….

  5. Happy Veterans Day!

  6. Interesting Zach.
    Thanks.
    I will follow up on.

  7. Click to access 09-5801.pdf

    This is the transcript of the argument before Court. I haven’t read it yet.

  8. Good morning all…..

    At 11 a.m. today… please stop, where ever you are, and what ever you may be doing, and give a silent “thank you” to all that have served..both living and dead. It is only proper and fitting.

  9. Alan Keyes : Will New GOP House Ignore Col. Terry Lakin And The Constitution

  10. The village idiot is still out of town so he won’t have to honor America’s hero’s…

    Let’s hope he forgets the way home.

  11. http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/nov/10/autopsy-queries-in-killing-hit-wall/?comments_id=1549749

    I recall reading that a Monroe County Sheriff Deputy who had threatened Mr. Miller was the primary suspect but was never charged. Now they are withholding the autopsy report.

    The FBI should be investigating this murder. Gov Haslam should order the TBI to investigate as soon as he takes office. It is outrageous that the Republican Elections Commissioner was murdered and nothing is being done about it.

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/nov/10/autopsy-queries-in-killing-hit-wall/?comments_id=1549749

  12. The case name Wong Kim Ark does come up. It would be great if the Court granted Kerchner cert. and dealt with both situations.

  13. Obama AWOL on Vets Day

    (excerpt)
    WASHINGTON — Today is Veterans Day. Do you know where your president is?
    With his feeble flame of “hope” thoroughly doused here in the United States by last week’s elections, President Obama has set out around the globe in search of throngs still enthralled by his flowery rhetoric.
    He found them, of course, in Indonesia this week by telling them about how Americans must stop mistrusting Islam.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/bam_awol_on_vets_day_IxEoyioHbtjAsNjGmbZoIP#ixzz14zJ0zv4z
    **************************
    Oh, he could honor vets all right; he was in Jakarta for their Heroes Day to honor their veterans “who have sacrificed on behalf of this great country” (Indonesia)

    Forgot to say that last night he honored vets from afar by laying a wreath at an Army base in South Korea.

  14. Thank you to anyone who has served this great nation…..have a wonderful day! 🙂

  15. FYI…..this is very important….please pass it far and wide….thank you…

    BREAKING NEWS! – Is Barack Obama Really A Saudi / Muslim “Plant” in the White House?

  16. A heartfelt thank you for all our veterans on this day.
    God Bless.

  17. Thanks, Jacqlyn, for those good videos! The first stirs deep feelings about how much we owe to our military, and the second makes one’s blood boil; because we all know our country has been sold down the river by the traitor in the WH (and his cohorts, as well as the folks that voted him in). For the sake of those living and dead, who have given so much, we MUST prevail against the evil that would overtake us! “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

  18. Cabby – AZ | November 11, 2010 at 11:13 am |

    Thanks, Jacqlyn, for those good videos! The first stirs deep feelings about how much we owe to our military, and the second makes one’s blood boil; because we all know our country has been sold down the river by the traitor in the WH (and his cohorts, as well as the folks that voted him in). For the sake of those living and dead, who have given so much, we MUST prevail against the evil that would overtake us! “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Amen Sister! 🙂

  19. Happy Veterans Day to all my fellow Veterans. Military Service 1985 – 2005.
    Served on USS Lexington (AVT-16), USS Simon Lake (AS-33), USS America (CV-66), USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63) during my 20 year tenure.

  20. http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/i-cant-find-that-missing-2-2-trillion-in-the-commission-proposal/

    In other words, nobody seems to be mentioning that Congress owes the people who were forced to pay into social security $2.2 Trillion.

    In other words, Congress doesn’t seem to be paying back that debt. As a matter of fact, it isn’t a debt at all. It’s embezzlement.

    Now why would I call that embezzlement?

  21. Thanks to all Vets. Thanks to all that are fighting for Truth and Justice. We are a nation of Laws, so lets see that it is done. Stay safe, God Bless America.

  22. Free Speech-I didn’t know if you were aware of this article.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/nov/10/anger-overflows-on-drilling-halt-report/
    Anger overflows on drilling halt report
    IG: Scientists didn’t back ban
    Gulf State lawmakers are accusing the Obama administration of putting politics above science after a government watchdog said Interior Department officials misled the public by altering a report to suggest that a group of outside scientists supported a blanket ban on deepwater drilling.
    Last month, staff for the presidential oil spill commission said Mrs. Browner had mischaracterized a government analysis about the remains of the spill, saying most of the oil was “gone,” when the report said it could still be there
    (more)

  23. So many frauds that need to be investigated—-
    http://www.repubx.com/
    Matt Taibbi: Courts Helping Banks Screw Over Homeowners
    by MiaX November 11, 2010 09:39
    Retired judges are rushing through complex cases to speed foreclosures in Florida
    The foreclosure lawyers down in Jacksonville had warned me, but I was skeptical. They told me the state of Florida had created a special super-high-speed housing court with a specific mandate to rubber-stamp the legally dicey foreclosures by corporate mortgage pushers like Deutsche Bank and JP Morgan Chase. This “rocket docket,” as it is called in town, is presided over by retired judges who seem to have no clue about the insanely complex financial instruments they are ruling on — securitized mortgages and laby­rinthine derivative deals of a type that didn’t even exist when most of them were active members of the bench. Their stated mission isn’t to decide right and wrong, but to clear cases and blast human beings out of their homes with ultimate velocity. They certainly have no incentive to penetrate the profound criminal mysteries of the great American mortgage bubble of the 2000s, perhaps the most complex Ponzi scheme in human history — an epic mountain range of corporate fraud in which Wall Street megabanks conspired first to collect huge numbers of subprime mortgages, then to unload them on unsuspecting third parties like pensions, trade unions and insurance companies (and, ultimately, you and me, as taxpayers) in the guise of AAA-rated investments. Selling lead as gold, shit as Chanel No. 5, was the essence of the booming international fraud scheme that created most all of these now-failing home mortgages…..
    (more)

  24. This Veterans Day-this is in honor of our brave military who have served and continue to serve our country and honor their oath to our Constitution and our Constitutional Republic-those who do not honor their oath of office sorry but they do not belong with these honorable people. So it comes down to this Lt. Col. Terry Lakin v/s a $20.00 bill.
    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/calling-obamas-bluff/
    America’s Tienanmen Square is coming–heck, it is already here. If you don’t believe that our lives are at stake with a usurper occupying the White House, ask Lt. Col. Lakin.
    Remember, LTC Lakin is facing being mowed over by a tank hard labor in Leavenworth because he called Obama’s bluff dared to ask Obama to prove himself eligible to order men into war. Obama would rather put a decorated army officer in jail than produce a $20 piece of paper.
    LTC Lakin is defending our Constitution and our rights–do not let this brave man get run down in broad daylight. Remember there are others standing right there too–Commander Charles Kerchner, in fact standing despite all who say there is none.
    Learn from this interview with Dr. Greg Lakin, LTC Lakin’s brother, Dr. Jerome Corsi, and Denver radio host, Peter Boyles. Spread the news far and wide.
    Part 2/4, Part 3/4, Part 4/4
    Act now, not later.

  25. I love this group…..they always manage to bring tears to my eyes no matter what they sing..…..I have seen them perform on Fox several times and other talk shows as well…..Thank you Four Troops and et al…..

  26. Today is the feast day of a soldier of Christ St Martin of Tours , died 397 , how ironic that this is veterans day and he is the patron of soliders & charity towards your neighbor . Pray for us & our military .
    COLLECT: FEAST OF ST. MARTIN OF TOURS (“Martinmas”)
    Almighty God,
    Who didst call Martin from the armies of this world
    to be a faithful soldier of Christ:
    give us grace to follow him
    in his love and compassion for those in need,
    and empower thy Church to claim for all people
    their inheritance as the children of God;
    through Jesus Christ Thy Son our Lord,
    Who liveth and reigneth with Thee,
    in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
    one God, now and for ever.
    Amen.

  27. citizen wells could you please take out the name below

  28. A must watch….

    AMERICAN HERO

  29. “Spread the news far and wide.”
    Peter Boyles interview was so interesting. Lt. Col. Terry Lakin’s case is being compared to: Tienanmen Square, Nuremberg War Trials, Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell, and other famous injustices. I wonder how many times the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was imprisoned for standing up for injustices? Worse they accused Lt. Col. Terry Lakin of being a racist (as they accuse everyone who doesn’t agree with them)-which Col. Lakins’ brother pointed out Lt. Lakins wife is from a race other than his own and they have three children. Lt. Lakin is ready to go to jail if Court-Martialed, WWD is ready to support his new role as a martyr to a cause and will publicize this as much as possible. Issuing a warning? I don’t know, but the commitments are coming in from many retired military, people who served under Col. Lakin are supporting him, Col. Lakin said he will carry the flag on this one.
    More Democrats are coming to these reporters with more information re: gov’t/Obama frauds, obviously some remembered they are Americans first and/or not afraid anymore, or protecting themselves in some way.
    As Obama gets weaker in the polls they expect even more information to be released. This latest trip with the $200 million price tag, I still hope this number is high, but we will see after FOIA documents come through and Michelle’s super expensive Spain trip-not going over too well with the American people.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
    Thursday, November 11, 2010
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20

  30. Didn’t realize the last video I posted was about getting out to vote….wish I had seen it sooner but it still had a good message! 🙂

  31. CabbyAZ…………………………
    It seems to me that a SANE, POTUS would not be woorying about how Islam is treated by the people of the US. Rather he would be worrying about matters that potentially carry GRAVE consequences for Americans. He forgets that he was born to a WHITE woman. Islamic radicals DESPISE MONGREL people within their confines. In reality they are probably SPITTING ON HIS IMAGE,or perhaps even his effigy. Maybe many of them are evenh throwing their shoes at his effigy.
    **********************************************************************

    SENIORS…………………STAND BY FOR A RAM. YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME IS ABOUT TO BE CUT SUBSTANTIALLY! THE ALLEGED BYPARTISAN DEFICIT REDUCTION COMMITTEE HAS STATED THAT BOTH MEDICARE,AND SOCIAL SECURITY IS TO BE CUT. WHO THE HELL CREATED THE DEFICEIT IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHO THE HELL DISSOLVED THE ORIGINAL SOCIAL SECURITY ANNUITY THAT ONCE EXIST6ED, AND WHO THE HELL RECENTLY STOLE $550 BILLION FROM THE ALLEGED TRUSTS? THAT’S RIGHT…………..ALL DEMOCRATS.
    HEY SOETORO, IF YOU CUT OUR SOCIAL SECURITY,AND MEDICARE, YOU WILL SUFFER ONE HELL OF A POLITICAL DEMISE. WE SENIORS AREN’T YOUR SNOT NOSE ,SLIMEY LITTLE FRIENDS WHOSE BACKSIDES YOU PATRONISE ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE ARE NOT SO STUPID THAT WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE AND i PROMISE YOU WE WILL EXACT OUR PRICE UPON YOU, FOR BETTER OR OR FOR WORSE. jUST TO BE A LITTLE MORE EXACT NIT WAS LIBERALS WHO GOT THE US INTO THIS FINANCIAL PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH. IT WAS LYNDON B JOHNSON WHO INITIATED THE THEFT OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY ANNUITY, LIQUIDATED IT,AND PUT IT INTO THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT HE AND HIS SLIMEY FRIENDS COULD RAPE IT AT WILL. iT WAS BARRY SOETORO,AND HIS SLIMEY FRIENDS WHO RECENTLY STOLE $550 BILLION FROM MMEDICARE,AND MADE IT AVAILABLE TO THE SLIME OF THIS COUNTRY WHO REFUSE TO WORK, ARE DRUG HEADS,AND/OR CRIMINALS. THIS ALSO INCLUDES RAPISTS OF CHILDREN. NONE ,OR VERY FEW OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE EVER PAID ONE DIME INTO SOCIAL SECURITY. NOW THEY ARE GOING TO GET FULL BENEFIT AS THOUGH THEY HAVE PAID IN. AND OR ARE GOING TO RECEIVE MEDICAID AT OUR EXPENSE. JUST THOUGHT EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW WHAT IS ON CONGRESSE’S FRONT BURNER. IF CONGRESS STARTS REDUCING MY BENIFITS I AM GOING TO BE AT THEIR FRONT DOOR REAL FAST. T

    HIS IS WHAT ALL SENIORS WHO ARE REXCEIVING SOCIAL SECURITY SHOULD DO. LET YOUR SWENATORS KNOW THAT 2012 IS COMING FAST.

  32. FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON MY COMPUTER HAS THE HICCUPS TODAY SORRY FOR THE UNUSED SPACE IN THE LAST COMMENT. A “SWENATOR” MUST BE SOMETHING LIKE BAWNEY FWANK. I KNOW THERE WAS A REASON WHY I MISSPELLED THE WORD SENATOR. NOT THAT IT MEANS ANYTHING ANYWAY. MY COMPUTER HAS A BAD CASE OF HICCUPS,BUT I CAN’T SPELL ,SO I AM GETTING THE HELL OF THE COMPUTER UNTIL I CAN SPELL AGAIN,AND GIVING THE COMPUTER TIME TO GET RID OF THE HICCUPS. BYE BYE ALL. FROM MY LITTLWE GRASS SHACK IN WAIKIKI.

  33. oldsalt79 @ 1:00 pm |
    No senior citizen should have to have their benefits cut, go after the waste and fraud, prosecute and increase the penalties to the max-fines and long jail times-I would also reward seniors who turn these creeps in. Seniors can be instructed in what to look for so that they can identify a fraud easily.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/23/60minutes/main5414390.shtml
    Oct. 25, 2009
    Medicare Fraud: A $60 Billion Crime
    A.G. Holder Tells 60 Minutes More Oversight Is Needed; Scammer Explains How Easy It Is To Steal Millions

  34. For anyone who fought in WW2, their children, grand-children make sure you watch the video’s you may see someone you recognize.
    Fools for leaders, endless debt, and we still have not learned.
    http://www.hillaryis44.org/
    November 11th, 2010
    Veterans Day 2010
    It finally ended a few weeks ago.
    The misbegotten Treaty of Versailles stopped the fighting of “The Great War” on June 28, 1919. But that “war to end all wars” was merely act one in a world wide conflagration that is now numbered in two parts.
    As wise statesmen have noted, the cessation of hostilities in World War I ended in an Allied victory but there was no peace. It required the second mass slaughter to give birth to not only a victory but to a peace as well – a peace that lasted for generations – interrupted repeatedly by a Cold War and lesser proxy wars.
    “65 Years Ago my Dad shot this film along Kalakaua Ave. in Waikiki capturing spontaneous celebrations that broke out upon first hearing news of the Japanese surrender. Kodachrome 16mm film: God Bless Kodachrome, right? I was able to find an outfit (mymovietransfer.com) to do a much superior scan of this footage to what I had previously posted, so I re-did this film and replaced the older version There are more still images from this amazing day, in color, at discoveringhawaii.com”
    This is a spare and simple video consisting of WWII-era Kodachrome slides and film footage honoring the servicemen and servicewomen and the loved ones they left behind. The bare-bones recording was made by Vera Lynn as bombs fell upon Britain: the genuine sadness in her voice needs no violin accompaniment for effect. Enormous gratitude for all US and Allies who serve, yesterday and today.”
    Thank you veterans.
    We’ll return to chronicle the foolishness of our current “leaders” tomorrow.

  35. The presidents deficit reduction commission came out with their plan to reduce the budget deficit.

    We’re being told massive spending cuts are included.

    SURPRISE, IT’S NOT A SPENDING CUT

    While there are Real tax increases, there are only PHONY spending cuts.

    The spending of the US gov’t under their plan would GO UP. They trick you into believing that it is a cut, because it is less than they had planned to spend. See? They budget huge increases in gov’t spending, and then they they cut the GROWTH RATE in spending and call it…..ta-dum….. a spending cut!

    Spending goes UP in their plan. The only thing real in the plan is TAX INCREASES.

  36. Fernley Girl | November 11, 2010 at 11:37 am | http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/i-cant-find-that-missing-2-2-trillion-in-the-commission-proposal/

    In other words, nobody seems to be mentioning that Congress owes the people who were forced to pay into social security $2.2 Trillion.

    In other words, Congress doesn’t seem to be paying back that debt. As a matter of fact, it isn’t a debt at all. It’s embezzlement.

    Now why would I call that embezzlement?
    !!!!!!!!!
    Hi, Fernley Girl…I just read an article and never realised until now that the budget surplus Clinton had during his ‘reign’ was actually our Social Security funds!!!

  37. Here’s a Vet Who Understands the Enemy We Face
    (Must see video)
    Notice how this panel of a number of former military personnel rather fumbled around trying to answer the question: How do you answer people who say that terrorists are following a “warped” version of Islam?

    Then be proud of Col. Allen West’s straight assessment: “This is not a perversion. They are doing exactly what this book (Qur’an) says.”

    This is one very straight-forward, experienced man!!
    Floridians should be really proud of him. The whole country should!

  38. A Veterans Day Story

    This morning while watching MSNBC, they had two former Secret Service agents on publicizing a new book called “The Kennedy Detail”. It appears to be a book to dispel any conspiracy theory. My only problem with this is that several years ago while listening to Art Bell of Coast To Coast conduct a 3 hour show on what do you think really happened on that November day in 1963 I heard a theory that sounded credible. After about three hours of the usual calls, one fellow called and said “Now listen – this is what really happened.” His demeanor was very authoritative and knowledgeable sounding. He said that one of the agents in the heat of the moment grabbed his rifle and it accidentally fired. In one of those one-in-a-million accidents, the bullet struck the President. OMG – How can we who are charged with protecting the President, be the cause of his death? Hasn’t anyone ever been suspicious how quickly the Warren Commission concluded it’s investigation. As one of the authors said – “there was no conspiracy”. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT FOR GOD’S SAKE.
    As John F. Kennedy was a real WW2 Veteran and hero in saving his crew, I think he would want the truth to be told.

    Here is testimony from a lawsuit and the source.

    a. On page 106, beginning in the first paragraph,

    Hickey had clearly heard the first shot. Sitting on top of the
    seat back, he had already spun completely around and was staring up
    toward the book depository. The other agents were just starting to
    turn. So, Hickey hears the first shot and looks back to where he
    thought it came from. And in a second or two, the follow-up car goes a
    little farther and the oak tree that had obscured his view is cleared.
    At that point, Hickey must have seen the barrel of Oswald’s gun. He had
    to. He was looking right at it. And Oswald fires again.

    So Hickey reaches down and grabs the AR-15 off the floor, flips
    off the safety and stands up on the seat, preparing to return fire. But
    his footing is precarious. The follow-up car hits the brakes or speeds
    up. Hickey begins to swing the gun around to draw a bead on Oswald, but
    he loses his balance. He begins to fall.

    And the barrel happens to be pointing toward Kennedy’s head. And
    the gun happens to go off.
    b. On page 108, second paragraph,

    Finally, he [Donahue] knew the bullet’s trajectory led straight to
    Hickey and his gun. As far as he was concerned, this was an unshakable
    ballistic fact. The bullet that hit Kennedy in the head came from the
    left rear. From the follow-up car. From the AR-15.

    c. On page 112, first paragraph,

    Bobby [Robert Kennedy] may well have, understandably, codified the
    cover-up: instructing that word of the misadventure go no further and
    that the President’s body be brought back to Washington as rapidly as
    possible, Texas law be damned.

    http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/00/hickey.lawsuit

    PS – This could be the second big lie from our government.

  39. JJ 3:09 PM
    I just read an article and never realised until now that the budget surplus Clinton had during his ‘reign’ was actually our Social Security funds!!!
    *********************************
    There is no question that it was absolutely wrong to merge the Social Security funds with the general fund; however, I am wondering if anyone really knows how much has been paid out to S.S. recipients through the years? Those payments, which then subsequently had to come from the general fund, need to be taken into account in order to arrive at a correct, theoretical balance of what should be in the S.S. fund if it had been left intact.

    I know of many S.S. recipients who have drawn far more than they ever paid in, including a fair growth return. That all has to be factored in, of course. The real truth is that the government is depending upon the S.S. taxes of current workers to keep up with its commitments to present retirees. The entire system is broken, that’s for sure.

  40. Cabby – AZ | November 11, 2010 at 3:43 pm |

    Here’s a Vet Who Understands the Enemy We Face

    _______________________________________________

    Congressman Allen West is also going to demand that he be allowed to join The Natl Black Caucus. They wouldn’t allow former Rep. Congressman JC Watts to join.

  41. Re. my 3:58 PM post, I must also add that the employer matched the amount paid in by employees. We must also not forget that when Soc. Sec. was legislated, the life expectancy for seniors was considerably lower than it is now.

  42. ms.helga | November 11, 2010 at 4:03 pm |
    Congressman Allen West is also going to demand that he be allowed to join The Natl Black Caucus. They wouldn’t allow former Rep. Congressman JC Watts to join.
    **********************************
    Isn’t that great?!? We’ll see now what happens!
    BTW, I enjoyed reading the theory about JFK, and it sounds entirely possible.
    It all seems so long ago, doesn’t it? That theory could well explain why the commission finished so quickly. Ruby taking out Oswald could still fit into that scenario, don’t you think? Oswald had the intentions, but he did not
    actually kill JFK. Interesting possibility.

  43. Cabby sez:
    I am wondering if anyone really knows how much has been paid out to S.S. recipients through the years? Those payments, which then subsequently had to come from the general fund, need to be taken into account in order to arrive at a correct, theoretical balance of what should be in the S.S. fund if it had been left intact.
    ***********************
    You can select any year you want. The govt. publishes the numbers. Here’s the link for 2000:

    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/cgi-bin/ops_period.cgi

  44. Michelle| November 11, 2010 at 11:47 am |
    – This is interesting….. a couple days old now.
    “JUDGE CURLEY THE HEAD BK JUDGE IN AZ JUST RULED MINUTES AGO THAT THE BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON MUST PRODUCE THE CUSTODIAL RECORDS IN THEIR VAULT IN A CASE AGAINST AN AZ HOMEOWNER, THEREBY PRODUCING THE NOTE AND ALL OTHER DOCS.

    THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIONAL DECISION. ”
    http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/head-bkr-judge-in-az-just-ruled-bony-mellon-must-produce-the-custodial-records/

    – And this about Florida;

    Florida Appellate Courts Are Getting It — and so is everyone else
    “EDITOR’S COMMENT: …
    Which brings us to my final point in this article: in the context of securitization, there is no such proof. That’s why they are faking it. If they had it, they would show it. The reason they don’t have it is that it never existed. What they want the courts to do NOW is to allow them to substitute fiction for fact. They want courts to allow them to submit either fake documents or documents that have no legal effect. The basic problem they have is that the evidence of transfers and change of ownership of the note does not reflect the original liability of the borrower nor the existence of the original real creditor. The original payee was not the lender. Thus the mortgage or deed of trust secures a note that is invalid. They can’t bring a legal action to modify the note to reflect the real lender because that would be admitting that they ever made the proper disclosures required under federal (TILA) and state lending laws. …”
    http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/florida-appellate-courts-are-getting-it-and-so-is-everyone-else/#comments

    -Gee …maybe the Florida courts will have to go through all of this again with the ‘special super-high-speed housing court’ ruling in favor of the homeowner.

  45. I know of many S.S. recipients who have drawn far more than they ever paid in.
    ***************
    And I can name four members in my immediate family who paid into SS for several decades, but never collected a dime.

  46. azgo @ 4:23 pm | I cannot tell you how weird this became here in FL. At first the home ownership material started out slowly, then within a space of about 5 years it got crazy, off the charts crazy-We kept getting material in the mail-Zero per cent down, zero payments for 2 years-APR unknown would kick in later-I thought it was a scam so I just threw it away-many times. Our normal 200-250,000.00 neighborhood suddenly 5-600,000.00 in less than 5 years-and real estates trying to convince you to sell-what the heck would you replace it with? In FL-property taxes based on millage and amount paid for house-so my 1200.00 tax bill, to any new buyer would have been 10,000.00-as soon as that first wave of tax bills went out these people knew they were cooked. My one neighbor told me in some neighborhoods you are not allowed to use the word tax bill-50/50 on when house bought/sold-then there was the group that flipped (one house at a time worked) but some investors were buying 10 properties at a time-figuring they were going to make a killing-a thing called pre-construction-after things started going bad a lot of those projects just stopped in various stages of development. I remember saying to another neighbor who did invest in some properties (cautiously) whatever happened to truth in lending? Then in FL they had Real Estate Seminars convincing a lot of young very inexperienced buyers of a lot of craziness. When the job market took a hit-that just wrecked things for a lot of people-poor, middle class and wealthy (some no longer). Those who saved and lived within their incomes did ok, not great but ok. Still a lot of “stuff” needs to be corrected in FL. Our new Gov. elect Rick Scott said he was going to go on a tour of the US trying to get companies/people to relocate here. FL has a lot of pluses for the CA folks-lots lower taxes, no state tax-weather, oceans similar. The only thing I heard former Californians complain about is lack of bike paths-FL a little behind on that. So if anyone is disgusted with CA, FL is a good state to check out and TX is doing a good job on that score too. I’m sure many others here could mention other states that would be a good fit also. I called this the dot.com real estate market because that was the way it was being played, and you cannot, should not do that with real estate, especially if it is the roof over your head (former for a lot of people). Lots of McMansions went up, every time I saw one I thought French Revolution-they are done forever-they are they eyesores in many neighborhoods now.

  47. This just came in on our local news in FL-300 schools in Broward County were locked down due to this. The FBI is investigating-I don’t know if they said prank call, threatening call-not sure on that part.
    Tea Party Terrorism: Alan West’s Affiliation With Joyce Kaufman
    5:52 pm EST November 11th, 2010 | Conservative, Republicans
    They’re not even in congress yet and it starts
    A conservative radio talk show host tapped to be chief of staff for an incoming Florida congressman stepped down Thursday from her congressional job, a day after 300 schools were locked down when a threat was linked to her show.
    Joyce Kaufman announced on her live show that she would not be Republican U.S. Rep.-elect Allen West’s aide because she wanted to avoid any repercussions against him for her statements. Kaufman is known for making controversial pronouncements on her show and told a recent Tea Party rally that if “ballots don’t work, bullets will.”

  48. Michelle | November 11, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
    My neighbor, in 2004, bought his house of 1,100 sq.ft. on a single lot for 140,000. He decided to sell in 2006 just after he basically painted the exterior and put new shingles on the roof. He offered it to me for 300,000 before real estate agent fees. (No way!) The real estate agent ended up being my landlord and she put his home on the market for 315,000. I asked her if she had heard about the housing bubble happening in San Diego (her home town) and she shouldn’t put it up so high, but she did. The home sold to a flipper and he put on new shingles and painted the exterior again, added a deck and landscaped the front yard. He put it on the market within two months at 480,000. It sold to a person from California who was perfectly happy to get a home for so much less than in California. The house I lived in, next door, owned by the real estate agent, 1600 sq. ft. with an additional lot, sold last year for 260,000, …of course, …after the housing bubble burst.

    Moral of the story: If ya think the new roof is going to leak, put another new roof on and make a bunch of money. P.S. – The flipper and his wife drove matching black Range Rovers and passed on any neighborly conversation.

  49. Michelle | November 11, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Tea Party Terrorism: Alan West’s Affiliation With Joyce Kaufman
    5:52 pm EST November 11th, 2010 | Conservative, Republicans

    They’re not even in congress yet and it starts
    A conservative radio talk show host tapped to be chief of staff for an incoming Florida congressman stepped down Thursday from her congressional job, a day after 300 schools were locked down when a threat was linked to her show.
    Joyce Kaufman announced on her live show that she would not be Republican U.S. Rep.-elect Allen West’s aide because she wanted to avoid any repercussions against him for her statements. Kaufman is known for making controversial pronouncements on her show and told a recent Tea Party rally that if “ballots don’t work, bullets will.”
    ————————————————————–

    Col West should have fired her. He can not afford to be associated with someone who advocates violence.

  50. Fernley Girl | November 11, 2010 at 4:24 pm |

    Bravo–and don’t forget those widows, like me, who never collected from their late husbands!!

  51. Michelle | November 11, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
    And that Corexit—never bothers any residents?
    Word is it is even showing up in Tennessee…so, no, I don’t want a home in Florida…I really think we’ve not seen the last of the damage done by ole Corexit.

  52. http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/11/man-facing-federal-and-state-charges-in-monroe-county-tn-stemming-from-fitzpatrick-case/

    I would say that it is unbelievable that Darren Huff was charged when he clearly committed no crime, but having been arrested on false charges myself nothing that happens to Patriots in Tennessee surprises me anymore.

    Even if you believe the bank teller who said that he said he was “going to take over the town,” I see no commission here, i.e., he clearly made no attempt to take over the town.

    After reading this interview it becomes clear that BHO’s DHS attempted to manufacture a Waco-type attack on the citizens of Tennessee. All of the Tennessee officials who participated in this outlawry should be ashamed of themselves.

    This interview should be sent to all of the National Press so that American Citizens know what happens to Patriots who travel to Tennessee.

    BTW, Monroe County is on I-75 on the way to the Smokey Mountains. I have never traveled through that area of Tennessee and after reading about what happened to Darren Huff, I will not go near Monroe County and I advise all others to stay away as well.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  53. http://www.prisonplanet.com/america%e2%80%99s-devolution-into-dictatorship.html

    “The United States Department of Justice (sic) routinely charges and convicts innocents with bogus and concocted crimes that are not even on the statutes book. The distinguished defense attorney and civil libertarian, Harvey A. Silverglate, published a book last year, Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent, which conclusively proves that today in “freedom and democracy” America we have punishment without crime.

    This same Justice (sic) Department, which routinely frames and railroads the innocent, argued in Federal Court on November 8 that the US government, if approved by the president, could murder anyone it wishes, citizens or noncitizens, at will. All that is required is that the government declare, without evidence, charges, trial, jury conviction or any of the due process required by the US Constitution, that the government suspects the murdered person or persons to be a “threat.”

    ” If the dastardly President Nixon had a Justice (sic) Department like the present one, he simply would have declared Woodward, Bernstein, and the Washington Post to be a threat and murdered them by merely exercising the power that the Obama administration is claiming.

    Nixon might be too far in the past for most Americans, so let’s look at Ronald Reagan.

    The neoconservatives’ Iran/Contra scandal almost brought down President Reagan. It is unclear whether President Reagan knew about the neocon operation and, if he did, whether he was kept in the loop. But all of this aside, what do you think would have been President Reagan’s fate if he, or his Justice (sic) Department, had declared that Reagan had the power as commander in chief to murder anyone he considered to be a threat?”

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s