Does Obama have knowledge of Donald Young’s murder?, Citizen Wells poll, 87% yes, Reverend Manning says yes

Larry Sinclair has alleged that he and Obama did drugs and had gay sex in November 1999. Sinclair also alleges that Donald Young contacted him prior to his murder in 2007. Donald Young was the gay choir director at Obama’s church. Sinclair alleges that he has phone numbers from his Young contact and will be providing his knowledge to the Chicago Police.

A former Chicago restaurant owner heard persistent rumors from the gay community that Obama was down low. The restaurant owner has supplied information to Sinclair’s attorney and has been in regular contact with me.

Larry Bland, another gay member of Obama’s church was also murdered late in 2007.

Obama had many ties to crime figures and corruption in Chicago and Illinois.

Nate Spencer, another gay member with ties, also was murdered last year.

Obama was absent from the Illinois Senate November 4, 1999. Sinclair alleges the time frame of his encounter was from November 3 to November 8, 1999.

Reverend James Manning states that Obama and Jeremiah Wright
are closet homosexuals. Reverend Manning was interviewed by
Jeff Rense several days ago and Reverend Manning believes that
Obama has knowledge of Donald Young’s murder.
Here are the results of our unscientific poll:

Does Obama have knowledge of Donald Young’s murder?

1) Yes          87%
2) No            9%
3) Not Sure   4%

To read more about Larry Sinclair’s allegations, click here:


28 responses to “Does Obama have knowledge of Donald Young’s murder?, Citizen Wells poll, 87% yes, Reverend Manning says yes

  1. I was wondering, has anyone ever talked to Donald Young’s roommate after he was murdered? Does anyone know who he/she is? I would imagine they would be privy to quite a bit of knowledge about Young and what he may have been involved with. Then again the roommate may not want to get involved.

  2. I’d be willing to bet that there is more evidence that points to the guilty parties in Donald Young’s murder than there was in the OJ case.

  3. Hope's Audacity

    The sad part of all of this is that knowing how the Chicago political machine has worked throughout the decades, if the pols say kill the investigation, its done with. As a kid, I watched the President resign because he covered up the Watergate breakin… would that happen now?

  4. Just a head’s up, citizen.

    Did you see that Larry’s lawyer has been disbarred in Florida and has lost his priviledge to practice in DC? Very coincidental timing, don’t you think?

  5. citizenwells

    Yes, I was aware of this.
    Larry and I discussed this.
    Sibley is a bit of a maverick and takes on
    cases that fall out of the “mainstream”.

  6. Citizen and Larry S.,

    My apologies if I missed the jist of the argument. I got the information with a link to http://www.overlawyered from a thread on Free Republic and was sickened to think that all that hard work by LS and Sibley (and the donations of supporters) might be for nothing.

    I STILL think that the timing of the FA bar is suspicious though.

  7. citizenwells

    I see your point.
    I, too, was suspicious about the timing.
    I did not assume the worst about you, I just have
    to stay vigilant.
    Thanks for your response.

  8. themitchandnanshow

    Mr. Wells-

    First, I come in peace. I must admit I have great admiration for your ability as a writer as well as your tenacity.

    With the very interesting points brought forward by Victor, who you and I know as Larry’s once most ardent supporter, I wonder as to why you have not answered Victor’s post directly. It appears to me that a young man with your skill and energy might best direct his talent in a different area rather than focus on the tales of Larry Sinclair.

    I have read you telling you wish the ‘truth’ to come out about Barack Obama and this is fine. I too believe that all persons political should be require to be an open book. But it also appears to me there are surely other areas which you can expose actual ‘truths’ about other than the always changing story of Mr. Sinclair.

    Can you explain your obsession and again, please realize I ask with the utmost respect.


  9. citizenwells

    My blog deals with any aspect of Obama and his past that concerns me and many others. Take for example the many long time crime and corruption associations, such as I examined in the Dan Shomon post recently. As a matter of fact, Larry Sinclair’s allegations were the catalyst that initiated my deeper investigation of Barack Obama. In rapid fire succession, one thing led to another, beginning with Obama hiding his past. Obama is a master of diversions, soliloquys and political spin. He has to be. His past is a cobweb of ties to crime and corruption as well as dubious personal behaviour.

  10. citizenwells

    In regard to responding to Victor, this was my comment earlier:

    My position has always been the same.
    I want the truth about Barack Obama.
    Victor, you appear to want the truth about Obama.
    Let’s all focus our energies on the search for the truth about Obama and informing the American public.
    The debate over whether Larry Sinclair said this or that is over on this blog.
    In Larry’s defense, I don’t see how he has kept up with the blog and the legal proceedings. He has always been forthright with me.
    By saying this, I am not questioning your intent Victor, but anything that detracts from the primary objective of revealing the real Obama must be minimized.

    From Sean Hannity, Reverend Manning interview, Wednesday, May 14, 2008, Obama homosexual, Obama and Wright homosexuals, Manning has proof, 2008/05/15 at 8:01 PM

  11. themitchandnanshow

    Mr. Wells….Thanks so much for posting our comment and for your answer. Frankly, I’m surprised.

    However, you did not answer my question. I believe you have many good points which are great fodder for an Obama investigation. That given, WHY do you waste so much time and energy on Larry Sinclair.

    Again you appear to have good analytical skills and an excellent command of writing. Why not use those talents in a more credible area. I simply do not understand?

    And also, if I may, do you really believe in reality that I am being paid or anything beyond who I tell you I am?

    Thanks for the consideration.


  12. citizenwells

    My business credentials and analytical skills are solid. I will be the judge of what I consider news worthy and worthy of spending my time analyzing.
    The real question, that I posted on your blog, is that if Larry Sinclair’s story has no credibility, why are so many people and organizations, spending so much time and money attempting to discredit Sinclair.
    Why did Robert Blackwell bother to respond to my followup to the LA Times article about the legal retainer/money laundering scandal involving Obama and Dan Shomon.

  13. What organizations?

    And what Money? WordPress blogs are free.

  14. citizenwells

    Let’s start with the simple one.
    Obama campaign and people it pays (this is documented-I will not argue this point).
    There are more.
    Some of them are well known.
    End of story.

  15. sisterrosetta

    Hello citizen

    I posted comments you removed

    Should I remove

    Stuck in airport with blackberry

  16. citizenwells

    I don’t understand.

  17. goodtimepolitics

    Obama has now teamed up with John Edwards and its been said that he is also gay! 🙂

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  19. Mr Wells,
    I keep reading about Mr. Spencer’s murder, but I’ve found no evidence of it other than ‘blog commentaries.

    From what I understand, Mr. Spencer was very ill for a long time (he was listed as “sick and shut in” in the TUCC bulletin of Novemer 2007, so he might have passed due to natural causes).

    If you can direct me to a source (e.g, the Trib, police reports, etc.) that discusses his murder, I would appreciate it.
    Thank you.

  20. citizenwells

    Thanks for an intelligent question that begged to be asked.
    First of all, in the bigger picture of the story, Nathaniel Spencer’s death never was a major point for me. What really concerns me more is the fact that it occured cloesly in time but more importantly, information was removd from the internet after many people started asking questions. I am almost certain I found more links earlier and a fellow blogger is certain and pointed it out several weeks ago.
    This is why I believe you may have difficulty finding information on Spencer.
    So for now, let’s just consider it another curious event (aside from the tragedy of his death to his family and friends). Every death is more than a fact to loved ones.

  21. citizenwells

    Here is a comment from the blogger I was referring to:

    Sally Holmes Says:
    Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 2:46 pm
    #9 BA –

    There are still some sites with information about Donald Young’s murder. There were two other possible associated murders: Larry Bland and Nathaniel (Nate) Spencer. Nate Spencer died the same week as Donald Young and was also in the church choir. There used to be tons of newspaper story links to these murders on the Internet. It’s virtually all gone now. The Internet has been scrubbed clean of information. It’s impossible to find ONE WORD about Nate Spencer any more.

  22. sisterrosetta


    Please disregard earlier comment

    Does Michelle obama whitey story have merit

    Will This help hillaryclinton

    I posted at hillaryclintonforum about sibley

    But he is still larrysinclair lawyer?

  23. citizenwells

    Sibley, from my latest info, is still LS attorney.
    I have heard the rumors about the video of M Obama talking about whitey. This would be huge! At least as powerful as the Wright videos.
    Keep up the good work.
    I know that you stay busy.
    Citizen Wells

  24. Hope's Audacity

    I posted on Larry’s site yesterday that even lawyers are entitled to due process, so Sibley’s FL suspension may eventually effect his DC license, but he will be afforded the proper hearings, etc. And for anyone who didn’t look at the actions that led the FL Bar to this action, it begins at his divorce and subsequent child custody issues.

    But despite what others may claim, Mr. Sibley will continue his zealous quest on Larry Sinclair’s behalf.

  25. Thank you, Citizen Wells.
    Unfortunately, your response doesn’t really help because it points back to web commentary. We can assume that the information was scrubbed, but, if so, this happened almost immediately. According to my research, the first web-based mentions of Mr. Spencer’s death included suspicions about web scrubbing because no one could locate a source. In other words, “this man was murdered but there’s no evidence out there to support this claim because the web has been scrubbed.” This was back in late February or early March. Onwards, then.

    Thank you for your time and assistance.

  26. citizenwells

    Thank you.
    You have added another corroboration of web scrubbing.
    This is another piece of the puzzle that forms the picture of Obama and his past. A truly scary picture.

  27. I, too, looked at this story (from LarrySinclair) with MUCH skepticism. Now, after watching every video posted by Larry and his (videotaped) press conference; along with reading up on the murder(s?O of Mr Young, et al, I have come to the conclusion that there is much (if not all) truth to the “rumors”.
    When one goes to the “stop the smears” site set up to supposedly counter any attacks or questioning of senator Obama, the only responses one will see is this: “it is a LIE”. Hmm. Now, does typing the word, Lie, in capital letters make it more truthful than the repeated writings and clear recollections of Larry or anyone who “was there” with Obama in the day? I don’t think so. Also, for each and every supposed rumor or lie, the only response is that I wrote here. There is no basis in fact, whatsoever, to doscount ANY of the “rumors” about Obama.
    I find Larry absolutely credible. Obama? Not so much!

  28. The original Wikipedia article on Obama was also scrubbed when he got the nomination. I had read it long before the election and it was much more detailed then, than it was after he started running for POTUS. There was much more information about his mother, too. There was an awful lot of scrubbing going on about “Mr. NoPast”!
    I also watched Larry Sinclair’s press conference and found him to be very credible. I truly believe that Obama needed to “get rid” of some people who knew too much about him, knowledge that would have prevented him from getting elected…and he had very powerful backers and connections that played “for keeps”.

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