OIG report Victoria Toensing: “very bad for the people in the Obama administration”, Joe diGenova: on highest levels of DOJ & FBI “it’s going to be devastating.”
“is going to be very bad for the people in the Obama administration. My source said to me, “It’s going to be worse than you can imagine.”…Victoria Toensing on OIG FISA report
“I would say explosive and I would say, for people at the highest levels of the FBI and at the highest levels of the Justice Department–more important at the Justice Department–it’s going to be devastating. It’s going to ruin careers, it’s going to make people have bar problems”…Joe diGenova on OIG FISA report
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”…Abraham Lincoln
Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova, on the Lou Dobbs show last night, explained what they believe will be the impact of the upcoming OIG FISA report.
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Two major takeaways:
1) The delay on the OIG FISA report is “partially” due to John Durham’s new Grand Jury activity–which can only mean that Durham is already taking testimony from persons named in IG Horowitz’s report, and
2) Durham is actively investigating the leak of the Flynn/Kislyak phone call to David Ignatius of the WaPo, which diGenova describes as “a 20 year felony.” Ouch! Maybe that person–or persons–will want to go for a deal? But they’ll have to have something truly major to offer. Something that Durham can’t get without their cooperation. And count on it
From the transcript:
“Victoria Toensing: I can tell you this, and we have darn good sources for this, it [the OIG FISA report] is going to be very bad for the people in the Obama administration. My source said to me, “It’s going to be worse than you can imagine.”
Joe diGenova: I would say explosive and I would say, for people at the highest levels of the FBI and at the highest levels of the Justice Department–more important at the Justice Department–it’s going to be devastating. It’s going to ruin careers, it’s going to make people have bar problems …
Victoria Toensing: Bill Barr problems! [laughs]
Joe diGenova: No, no, bar association problems. What’s clear, now we know is that the senior levels of the Obama Justice Department were complicit in knowingly submitting materially false applications to the FISA Court for an illegitimate counterintelligence purpose. Not for a legitimate purpose, but to spy on Americans for political purposes. And it really will end up being the beginning of the greatest political scandal in history. And it [the OIG FISA report] is being held up partially because of John Durham’s new Grand Jury, which by the way exists for one reason and one reason only – because people are going to be indicted.
Lou Dobbs: Now, he [Durham] is in charge of both FISA abuse and the origins of Spygate, whatever you want to call it–the worst political scandal in this country’s history. Is anything being held up because of simply the vast scope of his investigation?
Victoria Toensing: It’s been expanded, Lou. He’s now going into whole other areas. He’s going back into the origins of the investigation. For those of us who know this business, if you’re in counterintelligence and you get word that George Papadopoulos has said he’s heard something, that the Russians have something, you know what you do? You go knock on his door within a week and ask him about it, and have him give you the information, where did he get it … They didn’t do that. They didn’t do that at all. They disobeyed all the rules of a counterintelligence investigation.”