Graham v Cruz Graham v Rubio Illinois ballot challenge update January 21, 2016, Trump Carson and other challengers, IL stringent ballot access requirements, Will natural born citizen status matter?

Graham v Cruz Graham v Rubio Illinois ballot challenge update January 21, 2016, Trump Carson and other challengers, IL stringent ballot access requirements, Will natural born citizen status matter?

“To his kind of judge, Cruz ironically wouldn’t be eligible, because the legal principles that prevailed in the 1780s and ’90s required that someone actually be born on US soil to be a “natural born” citizen. Even having two US parents wouldn’t suffice. And having just an American mother, as Cruz did, would have been insufficient at a time that made patrilineal descent decisive.”…Laurence H. Tribe, Harvard Law Professor

“Moore said he’s seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a “natural born citizen” and a lot of evidence that suggests he is not.”…Judge Roy Moore interview by WND

“We are being lied to on a scale unimaginable by George Orwell.”…Citizen Wells



From Bill Graham,today January 22, 2016,  who has Challenged Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio being on the Illinois presidential ballot.

“Submitting Friday to IL State Board of Elections motions to reject motions to dismiss my objections to Rubio and Cruz Statements of Candidacy for IL General Primary 3/15. Each has certified they are legally qualified to serve as POTUS. Have low expectations but feel such efforts by citizens are necessary to preserve the Constitution.”

January 16, 2016.

“Objections to Rubio and Cruz Illinois filings posted at link. Objection was a letter attaching M Apuzzo opinion dated November 29, 2015 from his blog.

I received by US mail a notification these objections will be heard January 20 at 10:30 am, at SBE office in Springfield. I plan to call SBE Tuesday to confirm and inquire of procedures. Appeals of a decision must be filed within 5 days.

Given the corruption in IL, I expect them to be summarily dismissed. Probably could use some help with appeals.”

From BallotPedia:

“In order to get on the ballot in Illinois, a candidate for state or federal office must meet a variety of complex, state-specific filing requirements and deadlines. These regulations, known as ballot access laws, determine whether a candidate or party will appear on an election ballot. These laws are set at the state level. A candidate must prepare to meet ballot access requirements well in advance of primaries, caucuses and the general election.”

“Party candidates and independents

Established party candidates, new party candidates and independent candidates must file nomination papers with the Illinois State Board of Elections in order to qualify for the ballot. These nomination papers must be filed during the designated filing period. The filing period for established party candidates begins 106 days before the primary election and ends 113 days before the primary election. New party and independent candidates have a separate filing period. Their filing period begins 134 days before the general election and ends 141 days before the general election.[3][1]

Nomination papers include the following:[1]

  1. The Statement of Candidacy must contain the address, office sought and political party designation (if applicable) of the candidate; this form also includes a statement affirming that the candidate is qualified for the office sought, which must be signed by the candidate and notarized.[4]
  2. The original Receipt of Statement of Economic Interests must be filed with the Illinois Secretary of State, which will then issue the Receipt of the Statement of Economic Interests for the candidate to file with the Illinois State Board of Elections. This form is not required from candidates seeking federal office. It is suggested this form be filed at the same time as all other nomination papers, but it may be filed after the other papers as long as it is filed within the candidate filing period.[1]
  3. The loyalty oath form is optional. If a candidate chooses to sign it, he or she must affirm that he or she is not affiliated directly or indirectly with any organization that seeks to overthrow the government of the United States or the state of Illinois.[1][5]
  4. A petition containing the signatures of qualified electors. A candidate can begin circulating petitions 90 days before the last day of the filing period. Signature requirements for petitions vary according to the candidate’s political party affiliation and the office sought. Examples for signature requirements for new party candidate petitions can be found above under “Process to establish a political party.” Examples for signature requirements for established party candidates and independent candidates can be found in the tables below

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From Politico January 12, 2016:

“John Kasich has hit a bit of a snag in preparing for Illinois’s Republican primary.

The Ohio governor and establishment Republican presidential candidate is in danger of not having the minimum number of signatures in six congressional districts, meaning he would lose out on picking up delegates in those districts.

Last week was the deadline for submitting signatures for the March 15 primary. And Wednesday is the final day to file petition objections, with a 5 p.m. deadline.

Republicans often run up against difficulties in Illinois, where some congressional districts are heavily Democratic and ballot access is particularly complicated. But a longstanding “gentlemen’s agreement” meant Republicans didn’t contest one another’s petitions in the state. That could change in this cycle.

There’s nothing compelling the state to verify signatures unless there is a challenge.:

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From The Guardian January 16, 2016.

“Donald Trump’s campaign tried to get his rival Republicans kicked off the ballot in Illinois – but the attempt failed when his state chair failed to bring duplicate copies of the required forms.

The Guardian has learned that on Wednesday, the last day for candidates to object to signatures submitted by rival campaigns to get on the ballot, chair Kent Gray showed up at the Illinois board of elections a few minutes before it closed. Illinois has some of the toughest ballot access laws in the country, and qualifying for the ballot requires gathering a different number of signatures in each of the state’s 18 congressional districts. Candidates often stumble trying to fulfill the state’s requirements; conservative challenger Rick Santorum faced major obstacles in 2012.

Approached by the Guardian, Gray referred all questions to campaign spokesman Hope Hicks, who said he “was not available” to the press. Hicks did not respond to follow-up questions from the Guardian.

State politicians have long had a “gentleman’s agreement” that candidates would not attempt to contest each other’s signatures and throw each other off the ballot. But challenging petition signatures as a form of political chicanery in the Land of Lincoln has a long history. Barack Obama first won election to the state senate in 1996 by successfully challenging the signatures of his incumbent opponent and getting her removed from the ballot.
It had been widely reported that the campaign of Governor John Kasich of Ohio, a vocal Trump critic, had problems gathering signatures in Illinois, and representatives of Kasich, along with the campaigns of Florida senator Marco Rubio and neurosurgeon Ben Carson, were monitoring for any objections from rival camps. It seemed that they had dodged a bullet until Gray walked in attempting to object to a number of candidates on the grounds that some of their signatures were invalid, although exactly who he focused on is unclear.”

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18 responses to “Graham v Cruz Graham v Rubio Illinois ballot challenge update January 21, 2016, Trump Carson and other challengers, IL stringent ballot access requirements, Will natural born citizen status matter?

  1. “Illinois has a reputation for having a strict State Board of Elections that at times removes candidates from the ballot after challenges to their petitions have been filed. In some cases, public officials have found it is easier to kick a candidate off the ballot than it is to put them on the ballot. Once challenged, candidates are usually either kicked off the ballot entirely or must focus most of their attention on their challenge cases rather than running for election.”

  2. Did you see this in your NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, BBC or any major media ?

    I didn’t think so…neither did I…..seems like the whole damn world is in on this Islamic Scam !…with the US leading the pack !

  3. Motions to Sustain Objections (v Cruz, v Rubio) just filed to beat 5 pm deadline. Candidates must reply by Monday at 5 pm; Objector may rebut only Tuesday at 5 pm.
    Objector claims that Board members serve under oath to “support the Constitution” and are obliged to consider only the Constitution and as interpreted by the Supreme Court (Minor, 1875), and are barred from considering extra constitutional opinions regarding NBC. IL law says they must determine submittals and certifications are legally valid. Both Rubio and Cruz falsely certified they were legally qualified; neither is NBC.

  4. The game is NOT in Hillary’s favor….let’s play it !

  5. Judicial Watch, Inc.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton with an update on the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private server…

  6. CW,
    Can the FBI tell from examining Hilliary’s sever, if, and who, may have hacked into her system, and stolen secrets, thanks to her negligence?

  7. Bob Strauss………..
    every computer or computer system in use today transmits it’s own ID signal. However some of the servers are not always set up to retain the ID signal of any or all systems that have gained entry. Yes the hacker can be isolated, but it requires highly skilled people to do the job correctly and thoroughly. However I hasten to temper this with the fact that much of todays computer ,or server hacking is carried out by people who are quite often in some other country…….and thus largely UNTOUCHABLE.


    It seems to me that we have things backwards here…..but then again, that’s just those damn democrats up to their NO GOOD stuff…..

  9. By the way…the Bergdahl Court-Martial trail is being LOW KEYED…..for one reason….to protect the image Obama has presented that he is really a HERO…….

    give me a break, a deserter being turned into a hero by Executive Order !!!!



    this report was files and published on 23 Jan 2016….it’s current.

    Today, the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) reported that it has just added democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to its terror sponsor watchlist.

    This happened after this week’s discovery that one of the top monetary contributors to her current campaign is a suspected agent of Pakistan’s Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) who has funneled millions of dollars to Islamic Sunni-backed terror groups throughout the Middle East.

    The Federation began their confidential list of people and organizations they found to be involved in money laundering and funding terrorism, back in 2011.

    With Hillary being on this list, she became the highest ranking US official to have ever been placed upon it. This is not necessarily a “firm/complete” indication of her guilt, but it rather means her “actions/associations” involving “known/suspected” terrorists and terrorism supporters have raised “serious concerns” within the FSB.

    As to what raised these concerns about Hillary, this report explained that it was her private meeting this past week in Beaumont, Texas, with Pakistani businessman Muhammad Tahir Javed at his home, and attended by 250 other Muslims, that collected about $500,000 making it one of the top five private fundraisers she has had in America to date. (say what !!!! why hasn’t this been reported by our media sources?)

    Muhammad Tahir Javed, now being Hillary’s MAIN supporter, has long been identified by the FSB as a “suspected” terror supporter and ISI “agent” since he arrived in the States in 1989 during Bill Clinton’s regime and over the past quarter century has amassed a fortune through his “convenience store empire” located in Texas and the American south which he has vastly expanded into other business areas making him one of the most powerful Islamic businessmen in both the US and Pakistan.

    FSB intelligence on the “true” business practices of Muhammad Tahir Javed though, this report notes, appear to show that his fortune was made through his involvement with the ISI and Mexican drug cartels utilizing the “complicity/support” of American government officials.



  11. Isn’t it strange how all the other world news media sources can find this stuff that apparently in PLAIN SIGHT,……

    but the American news sources are blind and see nothing, or hear nothing.

    they have been bought and are completely owned by those who wish to destroy America …..

  12. oldsoldier79
    Good Morning sir, …….
    ………I hadn’t heard about Javed. Of course CLINT is only doing what she does best……….SPEND EVERYONE ELSES MONEY! If Javed is stupid enough to supply her with lots of money he deserves to be BANKRUPTED………because when she is spending it he will indeed eventually become the POOR MAHARAJAH OF MAGADOR.

  13. Filed today rebuttals to Memoranda of Law from Rubio and Cruz; all documents now with Hearing Officer. Today’s filing on Founders intent referred to Maskill’s CRS update 1-11-16 and on NBC definition to Mario Apuzzo 11-29-15 opinion on Minor and Wong Kim Ark.

    Candidates claim anyone born a citizen is a natural born citizen, even if they owe their citizenship to the 14th Amendment or Naturalization law. Even if their one or both parents have allegiance to another country. Founders wasted undivided allegiance.

  14. Thanks Bill G.

  15. “Both candidates have had their spot on the ballot in Illinois challenged after the recent primary filing deadline. The same man, William K. Graham, accused both of not being eligible natural-born citizens, according to a spokesman for the Illinois Board of Elections. Cruz was challenged on his place of birth, and Rubio on both of his parents not being U.S. citizens at the time he was born.”

  16. 5:30 post errata;
    ‘Founders wanted undivided allegiance.’


    Can’t make this stuff up. Did you know Cruz wrote the forward to this book by a non-lawyer Brit? The book does mention NBC qualification, born here of citizen parents on page 115. Of course Cruz could have written the forward without reading the book. On-line reviews are mediocre.

  18. I’m undecided which of the Presidential candidates I’m willing to support. Most people here are supporting Trump. The Donald has brought a lot of attention to this election and it’s refreshing to see someone who’s not afraid to speak his mind and doesn’t have to kowtow to those who contribute to their campaign. One thing that bothers me about Trump is his arrogance. We already have an arrogant president and that’s not going well. Trump’s refusal to show up at the FOX News debate because they wouldn’t remove Meghan Kelly makes him look like a spoiled brat. I like Rand Paul too but felt the same way about him for backing out of the last debate because he wasn’t in the prime time debate. I see a lot of Cruz bashing here due to the natural born citizen controversy. There are many Constitution scholars with different opinions so it’ll be up to the courts to make a decision on that. Our presidential primary isn’t until March 15th so we’ll see which candidates are still in the race then.

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