The Zombiefication Of America aka Orwellian thought control, All news information and entertainment controlled by six monolithic corporations, Mind programming turns many into virtual zombies, 1984 lives

The Zombiefication Of America aka Orwellian thought control, All news information and entertainment controlled by six monolithic corporations, Mind programming turns many into virtual zombies, 1984 lives

“The past is whatever the records and the memories agree upon.
And since the party is in full control of all records, and in
equally full control of the minds of it’s members, it follows
that the past is whatever the party chooses to make it. Six
means eighteen, two plus two equals five, war is peace,
freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”…George Orwell, “1984”

“When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”…Adolf Hitler

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”George Orwell, “1984″



For weeks I have been preparing articles on the real state of the economy, the non dumbed down, non Orwellian information about jobs, incomes and our national debt crisis and subsequent impending doom.

If I do, how many will read and comprehend it?

It continues to be frustrating, why bother.

Afterall, as I have been reporting here since early 2008, the real problem is our society, dumbed down and spoon fed what to think by our Orwellian government and media.

Orwell nailed it.

Consider this from “1984.”

“In its second minute the Hate rose to a frenzy. People were leaping up and down in their places and shouting at the tops of their voices in an effort to drown the maddening bleating voice that came from the screen. The little sandy-haired woman had turned bright pink, and her mouth was opening and shutting like that of a landed fish. Even O’Brien’s heavy face was flushed. He was sitting very straight in his chair, his powerful chest swelling and quivering as though he were standing up to the assault of a wave. The dark-haired girl behind Winston had begun crying out ‘Swine! Swine! Swine!’ and suddenly she picked up a heavy Newspeak dictionary and flung it at the screen. It struck Goldstein’s nose and bounced off; the voice continued inexorably. In a lucid moment Winston found that he was shouting with the others and kicking his heel violently against the rung of his chair. The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in.”

“What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the pneumatic tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs — to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary. In no case would it have been possible, once the deed was done, to prove that any falsification had taken place.”

“‘Comrades!’ cried an eager youthful voice. ‘Attention, comrades! We have glorious news for you. We have won the battle for production! Returns now completed of the output of all classes of consumption goods show that the standard of living has risen by no less than 20 per cent over the past year. All over Oceania this morning there were irrepressible spontaneous demonstrations when workers marched out of factories and offices and paraded through the streets with banners voicing their gratitude to Big Brother for the new, happy life which his wise leadership has bestowed upon us.”

From Zero Hedge December 29, 2014.

“The Zombiefication Of America”

“Do you know people that seem like they have had their souls sucked out of them? On, a “zombie” is defined as “the body of a dead person given the semblance of life, but mute and will-less, by a supernatural force, usually for some evil purpose”. And that sounds very much like what has happened to tens of millions of Americans. When you look into their eyes, it doesn’t look like anything is even there. That is because who they once were is now dominated and controlled by the overwhelmingly powerful “matrix” that is being constructed all around us.

As I wrote about the other day, virtually all news, information and entertainment that Americans consume is controlled by just six monolithic corporations. And today, Americans are more “plugged in” than ever before. The average person watches 153 hours of television a month in addition to spending countless hours watching movies, playing video games, listening to music, reading books and surfing the Internet. In the end, all of that “programming” turns many of us into virtual zombies, and that is the way that the elite like it.”

“If you put garbage in, you are eventually going to get garbage out.

And we can see the consequences of this all over the country.

Meanwhile, Americans are becoming increasingly disinterested in things that really matter such as faith, family and the U.S. Constitution.

Instead, many of our spoiled young people are self-obsessed narcissists that loudly complain on social media when they don’t get the electronic gadgets that they were expecting for Christmas.

It isn’t the end of the world if “Santa” doesn’t bring you the latest iPhone.

But Americans today, especially our young people, have such a warped view of reality.  It begins at a very early age, and one of the biggest culprits is our public school system.

For instance, the Blaze recently reported that children down in Texas are being taught that the pilgrims were “essentially America’s first terrorists” and that they should listen to their teachers more than they listen to their parents…

Cassidy Vines was so horrified by what a teacher in Texas allegedly told her that she is planning on home-schooling her daughter after Christmas break.

Vines told Glenn Beck on Monday that she recently began noticing a change in her daughter’s behavior. Her daughter — who is in kindergarten — started to “snap” at her when she corrected her homework, saying “I’m her mommy, not her teacher.”


Vines said a few days after her daughter first snapped at her, she started pronouncing a word incorrectly. Vines corrected her daughter “in the most gentle way possible,” but she said her daughter broke down crying, saying “that’s how she was taught, and I can’t tell her something different because I’m a mommy, not a teacher.”


Vines said she was horrified and asked, “Is somebody telling you this at school?”


“She said, ‘Yes, I’m only allowed to learn from my teacher,’” Vines remarked.

In this day and age, our public schools have essentially become government indoctrination centers that train our children to let “the matrix” do their thinking for them.  They are taught that they are just highly evolved animals that are here only as the result of a giant cosmic accident, and that morality and values are all relative.

As a result, many of our young people just do whatever is right in their own eyes, and at this point many of them have consciences that have been seared beyond recognition.

For example, how far gone do you have to be in order to sing a “Christmas carol” that includes the line “Deck the halls with rows of dead cops”?…”

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137 responses to “The Zombiefication Of America aka Orwellian thought control, All news information and entertainment controlled by six monolithic corporations, Mind programming turns many into virtual zombies, 1984 lives

  1. “With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages, and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and everything connected with it. The songs, the processions, the banners, the hiking, the drilling with dummy rifles, the yelling of slogans, the worship of Big Brother — it was all a sort of glorious game to them. All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with good reason, for hardly a week passed in which The Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak — ‘child hero’ was the phrase generally used — had overheard some compromising remark and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.”…George Orwell, “1984”


    Your post above describes “to the tee” exactly how our youth feel today….all they are concerned about are their smart phones, Ipads, and smack….all else, to include bathing, eating, and working are non essential.

    What a amazing prediction Orwell has made. It will not be long before his book, 1984, is thrown on the pile of books to be burned because in the future, “the truth cannot be tolerated” in a society which ignores the truth… in favor of fiction and make believe.

    But….there will always be that certain 10% of the people who will not accept fiction as truth…and they will become the unsung hero’s of this world’s future, and it will be this 10%’s that will keep alive the principles our nation was founded on regardless of all the “smoke screens” that are put in place by those en-powered to enslave the world.

    God save those 10%’s who will keep, hide, and cherish the book, 1984, in the same manner they will their Holy Bible…..the world will desperately need them in the future.

    All others will be burned at the stake.

  3. To support the post I just made, let me add these comments:

    I have just returned from Wisconsin with a visit to my second wife’s family. Her oldest grandson just graduated from the University of Wisconsin last year with a degree in Phycology…in my estimation, a wasted 4 years.

    Today, he has no job, dresses like a bum…long hair, dirty jeans with holes in them, a scraggly beard, and to tell the truth, he smells bad…I guess from not bathing.

    Everyone takes that as being OK….well everyone but me. When I said something to my wife, she said well that’s just Nick….I said, is that an excuse for him. She had no answer. His grandmother, my wife, said that he just “burned” himself out in college……I told her, no he burned himself out long before he got to college…..there he just reinforced his early beliefs.

    Nick is now 23,…. no job,… no skills,…. no income,…. and no home…his Dad lives with his third wife and his mother is an alcoholic with no job, and Nick lived with his tattooed girlfriend until her landlord kicked both of them out……….and Nick thinks the world owes him something because he has a degree in Phycology from a well known University .

    Nick is a carbon copy of a good majority of kids coming out of our “higher places” of education today…….he is educated, but not educated…he is smart, but not smart……he thinks he is prepared to meet the future challenges of the world…….but he is not prepared to meet what he will face tomorrow. He is “dumb as a doornail” when it comes to understanding or caring about the changing world we live in today.

    Nick’s politics are liberal, if you haven’t guessed by now. He feels the government will take care of him, and perhaps he’s right….as long as he is on a bended knee and continues to be a good obedient servant.

    I look at this young man and see a “paradise lost”, an opportunity that will never come around again….because of a youth that was spent on drugs and the “essentials” to his generation……I look at him and see America’s bleak and dark future.

    If the truth be known, I guess every American family today has at least one “Nick” perhaps more…

    Anyone, with a different opinion than what I have stated above, can correct me if they think I am in error.

  4. RMINNC……..
    …….now you know why I put both of my sons on their own at 18 years of age. They HAD to SWIM OR SINK. Tough decision ,but I knew it was nevessary. My oldest son recently told me that at the time he didn’t understand why I had advised him to move out. ……yet he was there for me at a time when I was considering suicide. Today both of my sons are successful business people. They both discovered that they needed to find employment,and develop marketable skills. After my oldest son had acquired a measure of maturity I brought him into the Printing business. I never regretted it.

  5. RMINNC…….
    Good afternoon sir,
    ………Whenever I find myself in close proximity to such a person as you have described it angers me clear to my very foundation. A few months back I felt pretty good one morning,so I decided to go to the store for a few things we needed. As I approached the register lane there was a long haired person with his hat on backwards,and a stinking cigarette jammed in his face,(signs everywhere NO SMOKING inside of this store).He was wearing bib coveralls that had holes in them,and appearred to be so dirty they probably would have stood up by themselves. I tried to keep a respectable distance between him and myself……….but even with nearly 5′ separating us the odor coming from him nearly gagged me. He smelled as though he didn’t use TP. I concluded that he might be a street person. (Giving him the benefit of the doubt.) If he had just come from a battlefield or something,I might have had some empathy for him, but God knows this person would have never fit in with a battle group ANYWHERE. He paid for his purchase with food stamps. While I am angered by such people I also recognise that some of these people are on the street bewcause of a set of circumstances not necessarily of their own making,and I sympathise with them. But there is also a lot of such people who have CHOSEN such a lifestyle. They are the people who PI$$ me off big time. A very big portion of them REFUSE TO WORK,and simply think that the rest of the world should support them……while they puff on JOINT AFTER JOINT.

  6. CW…….
    … really is not difficult to find ZOMBIES…..they are everywhere I look,and shop. I recently had my wife drive me to Lowes to look for a new O ring for the kitchen sink fawcett. I went to the plumbing department, and there was a Lowes person stocking shelves. I asked him where I might find fawcett O rings at. His face told the story he didn’t have a clue what I had just asked him about. He had a questioning look on his face so I just said EXCUSE ME,and hunted for the O rings myself. I found them a few minutes later,but Lowes didn,t have the size I needed so I ended up at Menards. They not only knew what I wanted the young man said “I’ll get it for you”. When I got home I installed the O ring and it worked fine. No more dribble coming from the spout swivel.

  7. VIDEO: Islamic cleric explains Allah’s specific rules for beating your wife and the penalty for violation.

  8. Bob Strauss……..
    Thanks for posting the John Kennedy video. Yes he spoke the truth…….and in all probability he was the LAST POTUS to do so. In those days we still had a Democratic Party. Unfortunately today this is no longer the truth. Today all we have is a ONE PARTY conglamoration of RINOS, HORSES A$$ES, liberal MORONS, sexual deviates,and overeducated wordsmiths,none of whom have the slightest clue about life’s true equities. They live in their own little FANTASYLANDS,and try very hard to RAM THEIR SHI# down the throats of all others around them. I personally despise such people.

  9. Bob Strauss…….
    In America,when some Islamic A$$hole raises his fist to his wife,that is exactly when his wife should raise a firearm,and put a .45 cal.hole squarely between her assailant’s eyes…..then she should inform the rest of the GOATHERDERS, that if they try to avenge what she done THEY TOO will become targets.

  10. RMinNC | December 30, 2014 at 11:11 am
    Good morning RM,
    Your observations of Nick are spot on. Nick is the poster child for the democrat party member. It is sad, but true, one must be willing to work to earn a living, and gain independence, and to build a life for themselves.

  11. AND NOW……
    …..debris field located,along with floating bodies. Only 6 miles away from last known position of the aircraft. I personally believe that even pilots with 20,000 hours of flight time are still capable of making a judgement error…..particularly if they are at the edge of potential death. I believe that the pilot CHOSE not to make a U turn,and get the hell away from the anvil head which he apparently chose to try to fly through. In such thunderstorms there is extremely violent up drafts,as well as similarly violent windshear. He ended up inside of a 55,000 foot anvil head,and it is probable that the violent thermals could easily have flipped him upside down, or he encountered a really nasty windshear. Both situations cause severe reduction of lift to the wing surfaces,and if the aircraft has a high angle of attack it’s airspeed is quickly diminished, no airspeed and an airplane becomes a rock. If the pilot is unable to get the nose of the aircraft below the horizon,he will fall like a rock to the surface,of the earth or sea. Being at the right place at the right moment,can be deadly to even the MOST EXPERIENCED PILOTS. In my own mind had I been in a position of management at Airasia,and was aware of the potential development of adverse weather conditions, along the planned flight path I would have built in a DEPARTURE DELAY fo at least 4 hours. Most travelers can ,and usually will tolerate a weather delayed departure; particularly where it involves their SAFETY.

  12. Good afternoon Oldsailor82 and Bob Struss……

    It’s so nice to be back home among friends… case I forget to wish everyone a happy New Year tomorrow…I will do that now…..

    Happy New Year to all my friends here on Citizenwells…and I wish each of you a healthy and happy year to come.

    I know it will be a hard year for some, but with God’s help you will get through it and you will be a better person for the experience.

    I am posting a song from one of my favorite singers, Bob Gibson, who does Shel Silverstein songs better than anyone.

    I like this one because it takes me back many years and reminds me of “all the stops I have made along the way”…….

    And if the good Lord is willing, I plan to make many more stops along the way before I cash in my chips. Enjoy this video. I’m sure you will also remember “all the stops you made along the way”

  13. ……….no aircraft built today can outclimb the massive and extremely high upward speed of thermals within a thunderstorm cell. Even glider pilots take steps to evade thunderstorm cells,and they largely DEPEND UPON rising thermals to remain airborn. Some years back a pilot flying a Schweitzer Glider stayed in the air for over 4 hours, just riding thermals. Wind shear can be as devastating to a glider,as it is to a powered aircraft…….but when you lose the air movement across your wing’s upper surface, you will need to instantly get the nose down and pray that you can develop enough forward airspeed to regain your lift before you slam into the ground,or sea.

  14. And a very SPECIAL HAPPY NEW YEAR to our mentor and friend, CITIZENWELLS who has given us this space to vent out hopes, fears, and aspirations.

    Without his web blog site, many of us would have no place to voice our opinions and another light would go out in America.

    As it is, CITIZENWELLS will be a part of the real history of this country. It may never be published by this cooperate media which is more interested in party propaganda than it is in the truth….but those who post here will know the difference in propaganda and truth.

    THANK YOU CITIZENWELLS FOR YEAR OF 2014 TRUTH…..may your health remain well and this web site remain strong and viable.

  15. TO ALL who lost their lives off the coast of Borneo. I PRAY…..
    Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name,
    Thy kingdom come,thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread,and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us,and lead us not into temptation,but deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the kingdom,and the power,and the glory for ever,and ever.

  16. Happy New Year to everyone at Citizen Wells.
    BYE BYE All…………..

  17. Why do we stand by and watch genocide of Christians?

    Read more: Family Security Matters
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution

  18. When I say or hear Happy New Year I am reminded of one of my favorite movies
    “Trading Places.”

  19. Christians fighting for Israel. How exciting. They realize their lot is better with democracy in Israel and not with Muslim fanatics.

  20. I wish everyone a very happy and healthy 2015!

  21. Breaking Report: Judy V. Obama, Article II Ineligibility Case In Conference, Before Panel Of Judges

    If I receive a favorable decision this could be the universe shattering decision we have been patiently waiting for.


  22. World Tribune Top 2014 Stories: Forensic Findings
    On Obama’s Birth Certificate; 100 Percent Forgery

    Obama’s purported birth certificate made World Tribune’s ‘Top 2014 Stories’ ranking in at #11. The report is by former Washington Times writer Dr. Grace Vuoto, currently the Editor of World Tribune. The report is about Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Obama birth certificate and Selective Service card investigation and features LT. Zullo’s presentation at the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association meeting live streamed at Birther Report.


  23. Eric Zorn: John Chase did not warn Blagojevich – the Chicago Tribune did

  24. “It appears the glorious trend of decling initial jobless claims has run its course. For the last 5 months, initial claims have oscillated around the crucial-to-the-narrative 300k level – breaking the constant downtrend of the last 4-5 years. Today’s 298k print, up 17k from last week, is the same level seen in the 3rd week of July.”

  25. The SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION is not on the way….
    it has been here long before 2008….but most citizens are not aware of this:

    The mainstream media still avoid Barack Hussein Obama’s provable ties to Marxism/Communism:

    “In fact, empirical proof that Obama is a socialist/marxist exists in the “Plain English”, gloating of the Progressive Populist magazine of November 1996: (Canada Free Press, Feb 5, 2014)

    “New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark. City Council, a seat on the country board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George’s County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party Member to Congress, as Danny Davis (Muslim), who ran as Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama (Muslim) was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.”

    This is what The Democratic Socialist Party of America, a Communist newspaper, published in their July/August edition of New Ground 47 Newsletter:
    “The Chicago New Party (Communist) is increasingly becoming a viable political organization that can make a different (sic) in Chicago politics. It is crucial for a political organization to have a solid infrastructure and visible results in its political program. The New Party has continued to solidify this base…

    “The NP’s ‘96 Political Program has been enormously successful with 3 of 4 endorsed candidates winning electoral primaries. All four candidates attended the NP membership meeting on April 11th to express their gratitude. Danny Davis, winner in the 7th Congressional District, invited NP’ers to join the Campaign Steering Committee. Patricia Martin who won the race for Judge in the 7th Sub-circuit Court, explained that due to the NP she was able to network and get experienced advice from progressives like Davis. Barack Obama, victor in the 13th State Senate District, encouraged NP’ers to join in his task force on Voter and Education and Voter Registration.”

    “In other words, Obama’s hot air and well-touted 2008 presidential platform of Hope & Change is not even his own. Change is what Socialists/Communist wanted for America for decades and change is what the Socialists/Communist got on November 4, 2008.

    “Obama is nothing but a programmed robot of the global elite, working to usher in what some call a pre-orchestrated financially challenged world, the United Socialist States of America.”
    Now-like it or not- my friends….if this “open- and- in- your- face” push for total socialism/communism is not reversed soon, America will be living under a new flag in 2015, and all that has been gained by the long hard fought battles to establish a model nation with freedom and justice for all…. will be lost..

    This is not just my opinion…..go back and read the Communist Manifesto, it will tell you exactly what these global elite Communist bastards have in store for us.

    But my words will go unheeded, and so will yours unless we stand up to be counted, then speak out and act in the best interest of our nation.

    I just read in my morning liberal rag sheet that Mr. Obama has been declared the most “admired” person on planet Earth…..think about that for a moment.

    Of all the people who live on this dirt ball, according to a recent Gallop poll, he is the “most admired”. What a cruel joke to play on humanity.

    This poll tells me just one thing…..the whole damn planet requires an immediate readjustment in it’s thinking.

    But about the poll it’s self.
    It would be most interesting to know the breakdown of the people polled….How many blacks?….how many queers?… many bleeding heart liberals?…how many pot smoking junkies?… many transvestites?… many Muslims?…….finally , how many God fearing conservative citizens?

    Polls will say what the main stream media want them to say….
    Obama has done a lousy joy of protecting the American interest in the past 7 years. In fact he has openly aided and abetted our enemies….yet, his super ego needs a boost , and he got it with this Gallop poll……I am almost positive he is walking around the golf course in Hawaii today like a little cocky rooster with his chest all puffed up saying to himself…..”how great I Am”…….when in fact, he is only “full of sound and fury (hot air) , signifying nothing”…..not even a decent human being.

    If 2015 does not bring the needed change this county so requires to get back on the right course…it may just be too late….and the evil ones will have won.

    Is this what America really wants?…Is this what America really deserves?

    If this happens as planned by the elite….. no one,… not even those who now worship the ground he walks on will be safe from what will follow.

    God forbid this.

  26. RMINNC………
    Right on sir,but now all you have to do is make the people who have the HARE BRAINS, pay attention to it. For any of them to BELIEVE it,is pretty unlikely………..but you and I along with a lot of others know the truth. But I also know that one or two people by themselves will not even change an ant hill. ……but you can be sure that only when 20,000,000 really pi$$ed off, armed citizens converge upon DC and physically clean out A-L-L of the bastards who are perpetrating the ongoing bullsh#t, will there be any meaningful change. It seems as though everybody is too caught up in their SEXUAL DEVIATION,THEIR DRUGS, ILLITERACY,ROBBERY,RAPE AND MURDER, TO REALISE THAT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE DRIVING FORCE AGAINST AMERICA. IN CONCLUSION THE morons AMONG US ARE DOING IT TO ALL OF US INCLUDING
    THEMSELVES,……AND they are led by lunatics like Sharpton. They are the people who are leading the destruction of America,including our law enforcement agencies. Of course EVERY CRIMINAL BASTARD wants the cops out of the way, so that they can destroy property,rape,rob,and murder as much as they want without any consequence.Eventually there will be only one mitigating force, LOTS OF ARMED CITIZENS, who will quickly return the fire of a slime who is trying to kill them. ONE SHOT…..ONE KILL!

  27. RMINNC………
    I would not hold my breath,as to what is going to happen with the next session of Congress. When the newly elected arrive at DC it will be only a short time until they too are corrupted. DO NOT LOOK FOR OTHERS TO DO THE WORK THAT IS SCREAMING FOR THE ATTENTION OF WE THE PEOPLE! As each day passes, without any change, the likelihood of such a thing ever happening diminishes. Choose your BED,and LAY UPON IT!

  28. AND NOW……..
    ……black boxes will indicate major stall of the aircraft, as for the fall from the sky, it could easily have been an upside down descent,or it could have been a FLAT SPIRAL……but either way without airspeed airplanes drop like a rock,and there might have been some break up as well,before it finally plunged into the Java sea. None of the bodies found so far were wearing life jackets. This indicates that the aircraft,most likely flew directly into the CELL WALL,inside of which was a massive fast moving upward spiraling mass of warm moisture saturated air which had the capability to put the aircraft into a 45degree or greater angle of attack. At that instant it is also possible….even probable that the moisture saturated being precipitated into ice crystals (hale)caused a flame out of both engines as well as quickly coated the leading edge of both wings.(RIME ICE) The forward airspeed instantly declined, and there was no longer any control of the aircraft from the control surfaces,and the pilot could not get the nose down. All of this up to the crash into the sea would have happened in a span of a only a couple of minutes……perhaps even in only SECONDS. I believe that the pilot had no warning that he had just flown into an anvil head. It appears that we will soon know what the pilot was saying(IF ANYTHING),as well as what was happening to the aircraft.

  29. Ginger……..
    McCain’s behavior would not surprise me at all. While my hat is off to him for his service during Viet Nam, I find myself holding some disrespect for him. I would rank him sort of like another Leahy.

  30. Bye bye all………. God Bless.

  31. OLDSAILOR82…..

    I too have little respect for McCain…..and I’m not to sure about his record in Vietnam…I know he was a POW, but the voices of those who were in the Hanoi Hilton at the same time as McCain do not speak well of him, but those voices receive no media attention… America thinks of McCain as a hero…….

    I think otherwise.

  32. All illegal, under this usurper.

    21,000 regulations so far under Obama…

    2,375 MORE set for 2015…

    Some have asked what I’m going to be doing in retirement. Well, I applied for a building permit for a new house. It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide, with 12 gun turrets at various heights, and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system that was going to entertain the whole neighborhood. It would have parking for 200 cars, and I was going to paint it snot green with pink trim.

    The City Council told me; “Forget it…IT AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN!”

    So, I sent in the application again, but this time I called it a ‘Mosque’.

    Work starts on Monday.

    I love this country. It’s the government that scares the crap out of me.

  34. “Why Is The Fed Hiring An “Emergency Preparedness Specialist Familiar With DHS Directives””

    “A few weeks ago, we reported that for some still unexplained reason, the US Treasury is ordering “survival kits” to its employees overseeing the federal banking system. To wit:

    The Department of Treasury is spending $200,000 on survival kits for all of its employees who oversee the federal banking system, according to a new solicitation. As FreeBeacon reports, survival kits will be delivered to every major bank in the United States and includes a solar blanket, food bar, water-purification tablets, and dust mask (among other things). The question, obviously, is just what do they know that the rest of us don’t?
    We still don’t know why. But what makes things even more surprising, and confusing, is that two days before the survival kit RFP soliciation became public on December 4, 2014, a just as curious notice was blasted by the Fed’s recruiting Twitter account:

    So the Fed is hiring not just any “emergency preparedness specialist” but one familiar with DHS directives? Here are the details of the position located in Washington, DC:”

  35. Where there’s LIFE there’s HOPE……

    What a wonderful way to end 2014. What a beautiful story, and what a great dog….from this story, each of us should take this lesson in living:


  36. BOB STRAUSS…..

    I loved you request for a building permit !!!……and it’s so true now days !

    I sent it too all my email friends….they are well aware of my (lack of) fondness for the Muslims…..

  37. RMinNC,
    Happy new year!

    Let the battle continue…


    Same to you my friend……damn I love the smell of gun powder !!!!


    In all the debate about President Barack Obama‘s “Executive Amnesty” for illegal aliens, few have discussed the real reason for Obama’s move.

    The president has risked huge “political capital” on a very risky and possibly illegal move, that he believes will define his Presidency and secure his legacy with his “Progressive” base.

    Obama is simply after the votes. He believes that by legalizing eleven to twenty million “illegals” and eventually giving them the vote, he will turn America into a permanent Democratic Party “one party state.”

    Furthermore, the President intends there to be no turning back. As a long time ally of the Gramsci-loving Marxists of Democratic Socialists of America, Obama understands that his Democratic Party is now controlled by the unions and that the unions are controlled by DSA and other Marxist groups.

    He knows there will be no “20 year window” for the Republicans to build their share of the Latino vote. He understands that if the Democrats win the next one or two Presidential elections, the left will use the power of the state to divide and smash their Republican, conservative and Evangelical Christian opposition – forever.

    Obama understands, even if the leadership of the GOP doesn’t, that this is not the old Republican/Democrat turnabout game. This is much more like the Communist takeover of Czechoslovakia in 1948, or the socialization of Venezuela under Hugo Chavez. Obama and his Marxist allies are playing for keeps – and “Amnesty” is one of their main weapons.
    (taken from Trevor London’s website today)
    Once a MUSLIM, always a MUSLIM…..once a COMMUNIST, always a COMMUNIST. once a RADICAL, always a RADICAL.

    The pattern or people never change.

  40. CW I was just going to post that article from ZeroHedge and saw that you already put it up….A bit unnerving don’t you think?

    I remember several years ago, Glenn Beck had financial experts on his program discussing a future global economic collapse. From the onset, it would be relatively swift suggesting perhaps 2 weeks before our banking systems shut down. The one distinct tidbit I remember is that they suggested on a Friday, the head of the Fed (Bernanke at the time) would announce a minor banking computer glitch and cease all online access to banks. Then by Monday, the banks would be shut down with no access to any accounts. The Friday announcement would be a ruse to prevent a major rush on the banks.

  41. HonorFirst.
    I began life as a math major.
    Numbers don’t lie.
    Very much underreported, or not or downplayed.
    With our current best case % rates, we are spending many billions on the debt %.
    We are not paying down the principal.
    The debt continues to increase.
    A perfect storm of higher interest rates is around the corner & collapse.

  42. HONOR FIRST….Happy New Year my friend

    It must be taken into account that the Russian’s and Chinese have now started using their own money as a standard and have bounced the dollar.

    …..if we have a major banking system shutdown (which I believe we will), it will make very little difference if the banks close or not….money will be worthless and a wheel barrel of the paper stuff will buy you nothing.

    I do agree with the Friday element…that seems to be the favorite time to release bad news….people are pre-occupied with their balls games, parties and stuff like that….then come Monday they discover the truth that the bubble has burst and their American dream has turned into an American nightmare….then they will want someone to come to their rescue but it will be….

    Too little and too late.

  43. Happy New Year to Citizen Wells and each and all of the posters here! May God grant to us the wisdom and stamina we’ll need to see us through another year.
    Sometimes it is hard to do this but we must not fail to pray for those in authority. In the Apostle Paul’s letter to Timothy her writes:

    I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men: For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty, For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” (I Tim. 2: 1-4)

  44. citizenwells

    Happy and blessed New Year.

  45. “Happy New Year”, to all !!!! Many, thanks !!!! Stay the course in 2015 !!!!

  46. God Bless…Hannity! Pass this every where…contact our congressmen and women! Makes threats if we have to to get rid of the TRAITOR Boehner!!!!!!

    God Bless AMERICA

  47. “It is amazing for me to see that most observers and analysts have apparently failed to realize that China is now a key actor in the Ukrainian war. Anybody doubting this claim should read the Vineyard of the Saker White Paper written by Larchmonter 445 entitled The Russia-China Double Helix. To make a long story short, China and Russia have decided to keep their own “hands” (their armed forces) and their own “heads” (their political leadership) but to share a common “torso” (their economies, natural and human resources, their industrial and technological know-how and everything else which allows a society to prosper). I call this the Russia-China Strategic Alliance (RCSA) but really it is something even bigger then that – it is a long term decision to share a common fate and to take the risk to become inseparable. An alliance, a treaty, can be broken or withdrawn from. But once your “internal organs” are shared with another entity you are bound together, for better or for worse. What has happened is truly a tectonic geopolitical shift: two empires have decided to join together while remaining sovereign and independent. To my knowledge this has never happened in history and Putin and Xi have already changed the course of history by this monumental decision.

    The two countries are ideal symbionts: everything one has the other needs and vice versa. China needs Russian raw materials, especially energy, Russian high technology (aerospace, engines, power plants, etc.) and Russian armaments (everything from the rifle bullet to the ICBM). Russia needs two things from China: money and “Walmart” (consumer goods). Together these two giants not only have immense currency resources but the biggest stash of physical gold on the planet. And, to make things even better, Russia and China are the undisputed leaders of BRICS and SCO. Taken together these two countries are already far more powerful than the AngloZionist Empire and that trend will only grow.

    A Russian, a Russian Asian and a Chinese solider
    Of course, China will not intervene militarily in the Ukraine. Remember – each country keeps its own “hands” so long as the other is not directly threatened. But in the Pacific Russian and Chinese navies are already training together and even creating joint command centers.

    In the Ukraine, China still play a crucial role by providing Russia will all the economic aid needed to overcome the western sanctions and restructure the Russian economy. The Chinese have now officially declared that. It is both ironic and beautiful that after decades of Russian fears that China might try to conquer Siberia (even Solzhenitsyn shared these fears) Putin and Xi have found a much more intelligent solution – Russia will sell Siberia’s riches to China while China will protect Russia from the West. Again, this is truly a historic development whose importance cannot be overstated.”

    “My very tentative “guesstimates” for 2015:

    2014 has been a historic year and so will be 2015, if only because 2014 set a great deal of things in motion, but resolved none of them. I have come to the conclusion that there is a 80% chance of a massive Ukrainian attack on Novorussia next year, probably in the first part of the year. My best guesstimate is that Novorussia will probably be able to beat back this attack, albeit with great effort and big losses. The Russian economy will continue to suffer and appear to be sinking for the next six months or so at which point it will gradually start reversing that trend. The EU economy will enter into full and deep recession resulting in widespread social unrest. As for the USA, they probably will be able to pretend like nothing big, not big disaster, is happening, if only thanks to the money printing machine and the best propaganda machine in history. What the US will be unable to do is to prevent the gradual but inexorable de-dollarization of more and more of the world economy, lead by China and Russia. The true and final collapse of the AngloZionist Empire is inevitable, but not for the next couple of years.”

  48. CW………
    and could easily end with ….CHECKMATE against the US with weak,or NO LEADERSHIP,……..and I personally feel that it is the latter which prevails TODAY!

  49. CW …….
    Given the already weakened state of Russia’s economy,it will be the Chinese who prop them up. But guess who’s money put China where it is today. However I hasten to add that the eventual collapse of the dollar is exactly what the PROGRESSIVES WANT. This allows them to avail themselves of their demented dreams of Utopia, and make it look real to the IDIOTIC American MORONS,who will swallow it hook line and sinker, but what the morons will discover is that even in UTOPIA …..NOT ALL IS FREE!


    President Ronald Reagan who once famously told Soviet Union Leader Mikhail Gorbachev, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall,” must be rolling in his grave.

    America, through a branch of the Michigan State Department of Natural Resources, now boldly and openly celebrates the ideal of communism.

    Two days before the countdown to midnight celebrating 2015, the Michigan Historical Commission, a branch of the state’s Department of Natural Resources, announced it would be placing an official historical marker, which in essence honors unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) for giving an unwitting world the “Port Huron Statement”.

    The historical marker will be placed at a United Auto Workers camp outside of Port Huron in St. Clair County where SDS radicals wrote their pro-communism manifesto that came to be known as the “Port Huron Statement” in June 1962.

    “The document was written by Thomas Hayden – a 1960s counterculture radical and former husband of Jane Fonda – as well as other SDS members like Ayers, who later founded the Weather Underground before turning to academia to become an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.(, Dec. 31, 2014
    America and her politicians have encouraged and aided the growth of communism in this county by turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to the radical elements of this movement…….

    Bill Ayers and his scumbag wife should have been tried and convicted of terrorist activities when he first came out of hiding….instead he was permitted to infiltrate the higher educational system and in the process now corrupts the minds of those he is suppose to teach the truth too.

    Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam at the height of that war and sat on an
    anti-aircraft gun and denounced the policies of the nation in which she lived.
    (I know because I was there at the same time this happened) She also went to visit the famous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. While there American prisoners gave her messages to get back to our government about their inhuman treatment. Instead of bringing those messages home as the prisoners had requested, she turned them over to the captors of the men…..for writing those messages, the men were severely beaten and abused. Jane Fonda was by her public acts and actions, was a Traitor to her country and should have been treated as such.—-but wasn’t.

    Today, both Fonda and Ayers enjoys a protected status by this democrat socialist government. Fonda is now a Hollywood darling, and Ayers is the bard of Chicago underground politics. Both still enjoy stomping on the national flag at every given opportunity.

    As a nation, we have sown these seeds of destruction. We have now one to blame but ourselves. We have permitted the glitter of their Che Guavarre movements to hide and cover their real intent. We have permitted common criminals to be turned into national hero’s, while at the same time, those deserving of that honor have been ignored or branded as the problem.

    In 50 short years, we have permitted out county to be taken over and occupied by those with the sole intentions of destroying it. We have become exactly what we have opposed in the many years before such scum came on the scene.

    How did this transformation happen? Why did we permit it to happen? Future historians will ponder those questions for many years after those who post here are gone….. but the answer is simple and it’s right before our eyes today.

    We are in the process of turning over this country to a movement that will enslave everyone, the good, the bad and the ugly… but no one seems to really give a damn. When this happens, who do we blame?

    Do we blame the politicians who got into the ‘game’ for their own personal reasons? Do we blame the media for turning into nothing but a propaganda whore for the corrupt politicians and bankers? Do we blame the court system for ignoring established law, and then making law from the bench instead of carrying out the will of the people? Do we blame the international bankers and businessmen who have bought and then sold out our country to the highest bidder? Or do we put the blame where it really belongs…..

    Squarely on the backs of citizen who lives in this country. That’s where the blame belongs and that’s what the future historians will write. The bottom line is and always will be:

    We are reaping exactly what we have sown over the past 50 years….nothing more, nothing less.

    Our Constitution tells us in plain English that when our government gets so corrupt and so disliked by the people whom it governs, then “We The People” have a right to change that government……..but that will never happen with our modern day ‘sunshine soldier’s’ and ‘shade-tree patriot’s’ when those in charge have no fear of the public.

    Thomas Jefferson told us long ago that when the government fears the citizens that’s called democracy….when the citizens fear his government that’s called tyranny.

    We now live in a state of tyranny…the facts support this.

    But there are still those living in this despotic tyrannical government who refuse to accept that form of government….I being one, and you being the other. Perhaps this New Year will bring the people of this great nation back to their senses and a government of the people, by the people, and for the people will be restored.

    We can only hope and pray this happens.

    God Bless America and God Bless those who still care for her.

  51. …………for all of 2015 we will most likely see Mzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.PROGRESSIVE try to make all of her alleged constituents think UP is DOWN, and probably most of them will BELIEVE her lunacy as the truth,simply because most of the people who would vote for her are so mentally inept,that even in reality they don’t know the difference. We will have a really tough row to hoe in counteracting her PROPAGANDA. We are up against the twisted mentalities of our young people (fresh out of college),and the middle aged mentally twisted professional females……(who elect presidents simply because they think “HE HAS NICE BUNS”.This sort of STUPIDITY exists with over 60%of America’s voters. Playing the sax got “slick willy” elected. everybody thought he was C-O-O-L……….Then, promising America a FREE LIVING got Soetoro elected. Perhaps oneday somebody will get elected for being able to pick a banjo, and his nose simultaneously.

  52. Rminnc………..

  53. …….WHEN…..
    …….we have such sick,twisted people running our country,compounded by equally sick twisted people who believe them,we the patriots are definitely between a rock and a hard place.

  54. ……….the question is what are we going to DO ABOUT IT?

  55. ……….talking about our problem,and fixing our problem is TWO DISTINCT things. To date I have seen NOTHING done to fix the problem, which gets worse by the day.

  56. RMINNC……
    …what else would you expect from the twisted morons who run the State of Michigan? You only need to look at Detroit as an example of their leadership. Detroit is being destroyed further and further,as each day passes. It was once the gleaming icon of our automotive,and defense industries. Now it has become the gleaming icon of the Muslim world…… thanks to the Michigan leadership,and the labor union radicals. A few people who recently visited Detroit have returned,and told of BLOCK AFTER BLOCK,OF BOARDED UP BUILDINGS, and block after block of vacant,deteriorating and otherwise decrepit homes whch also were once very nice homes of the middle class. The liberal democratic senate TITAN of Michigan,who is in truth now little more than a extremely aged, Senator is primarily responsible for what Michigan has turned into. He and his friends just keep right on RIPPING OFF THE PEOPLE OF Michigan, yet they keep right on re electing him. THIS = MORONS.

  57. bye bye all………..have a great day……….there might not be many left.

  58. U.S Presidents and Statesmen are on every piece Of U.S. currency. So, when will Barack Obama Be Placed On The Food Stamp Cards?

    Happy New Year Everyone!

  59. Obama Could Be Facing 10 Years To Life In Prison…
    “No exception for the President’s behavior…”

  60. Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama ‘Tried to Romance Putin and He Got Date-Raped’
    |By Matthew Burke

  61. Citizen wells and others. Happy New Year!!

  62. One of the top stories of 2014
    “Obama’s Forged Birth Certificate”
    Hello, does anybody care?

  63. Watch: In Just 51 Seconds This Army Colonel Gives The ONLY Way To Defeat ISIS (Obama Won’t Like It)

    This guy knows what he’s talking about!

  64. The Average American

    “The average American has one great fear: criticism. This fear of criticism is greater than their desire to succeed, their desire to know the truth, and even their desire to live. As a result, the average American is in firm acceptance of whatever authority figures or the mainstream media tells them. They accept wholeheartedly the “official story” of 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston, and the biography of the man who calls himself Obama.”

  65. This is the best explanation of why people’s health insurance plans are being cancelled under OBAMABCARE…… a must see for everyone !!!

  66. If this doesn’t make the OBAMACARE a constant NIGHTMARE….nothing will !!!

  67. Making money at the expense of newborn babies:

    The abortion giant Planned Parenthood has released its 2013 annual report and the new numbers indicate it did more abortions than the year before — killing 327,653 babies in abortions while taking in millions in taxpayer funds.

    Planned Parenthood Federation of America has released its 2013-2014 Annual Report and Jim Sedlak, vice president of American Life League, broke down the numbers. The report indicates Planned Parenthood did 327,653 abortions in 2013, an increase over the 327,166 abortions it did in 2012.

    While it remains America’s biggest abortion corporation, the “nonprofit” continued to make money — bringing in $305.4 million last year and $305.3 million this year. Planned Parenthood continued to receive over a half-billion dollars in taxpayer money, as it took in $540 million in 2012 and $528 million in 2013.

    This is pre-meditated MURDER…plain and simple…yet the guilty continue taking their bags of loot to the bank……these criminals may never be punished in the world we now live in, but you can be assured that God, the final judge, will settle the bill for this slaughter of the lambs..

    When that happens, I would not want to have any association with the PLANNED PARENTHOOD ASSOCIATION. I am sure they will all burn in hell forever for their transgressions….And so will the people who go to this criminal outfit for that convenient fix.

    The irony of this situation is: We give long prison sentences to those weirdo’s who willingly abuse a child, but then the same judicial system totally ignore those who take advantage of the most helpless of children; the newborn.

    What a sad criminal sense of justice we practice not only in America but we push this same thing off on the entire world……but you can be assured that God is watching and taking note…..Someone will eventually pay.

    According to this PLANNED PARENTHOOD report of dead babies being murdered each year according to our laws, I guess America is really the Babylon spoken of in our Holy Bible.

    God help us for we are partially to blame for permitting this to happen.

    You posted; ““The average American has one great fear: criticism”

    I guess I’m not average…..I live by this code; “Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never harm me”…….

    If more average Americans lived by this same code, there would be less “political correctness” bull$hit……..don’t you think?

  69. RMINNC……..
    Actually the abortion clinics do business for one reason…….a female has enjoyed a few moments of sexual pleasure, but does not want to pay the fiddler. Yet sadly they keep right on with their promiscuous behavior. Often I tend to think that the only reason why some of the snotnosed females attend college is really for the purpose of see how many times each day they can get laid, rather than learn anything……..further their final exam scores seem to confirm that some of the alleged students failed to do their homework……most likely because they were preoccupied with things that were more important to them… creating BABIES, to be slaughtered later…………and largely financed by their own PARENTS!

  70. RMINNC…….
    …..then to compound insult upon injury these youngsters graduate from college with various degrees, and brought their childish mindset along.Many of them are assimilated into the professional world……often upon the strength of a resume full of lies, and when their employer discovers their inadequacies,they end up UNEMPLOYED.

  71. Bob Strauss……..
    The student debt has finally risen into the BILLIONS. Many of the borrowers thought that student loans were for LIVING expenses,and they blew all the money they received on parties,and more parties…….now they face payback. I have my doubts that Soetoro will ever force the pay back of even one penny of the debt. I think that before he leaves office he will sign a bill to forgive all the owed student debt………Around and around will go the big brass cylinder,printing more and more and more,until the dollar is no longer worth the paper it is printed on………and the students will keep right on receiving BILLIONS to BLOW on whatever they choose……and some of them will definitely do exactly that…….then ask for MORE!

  72. RMINNC……..
    Good morning sir….
    I offer a notion that might seem quite complicated,yet to me it says it all. This is in reference to CRITICSM. First of all I think that the preponderence of Americans believe that they are so knowledgeable that they are ALWAYS right,no matter what the subject. These people therefore think that all others should NEVER criticise them,rather kiss their smelly feet instead. They fancy themselves of being the all knowing gurus of everything,yet in REALITY they can only TWIST WORDS. A very large portion of our society really became unhinged when Mr,Gruber told them to their faces that they were STUPID. I listened to all of the videos in which Mr,Gruber assailed the American people for being so stupid,as to believe the ACA bullshi#. In reality he was right but also wrong. In reality it was the elected leaders who were terribly stupid…….but the American people were COMPLICIT in that it was the American people who put the stupid a$$ politicians in office to begin with.

  73. Bob Strauss………
    …..I personally think that eventually our so called economy will collapse after enough of the foreign governments break away from using the dollar for international trade. At present only a few have given up on the dollar as their staple. When ALL foreign countries do it there will be total collapse of our economy.At present there is trillions of dollars being held in foreign banks. When they begin shoving all of it back down our throats, the fed will NOT BE ABLE TO AMORTISE such an amount very quickly,after which gold and silver could become our sole monetary system.

  74. Before I shut the hell up,I wish to offer another consideration which I now entertain…..this is with respect to flight 1801. I have slightly modified my prior notions as to the happenings in the final moments of the flight. There has been over 30 bodies recovered so far. The more floating bodies that are found,the more indicative it becomes that the aircraft had begun to break up during it’s final descent. The emergency door was found quite some distance from where the scattered bodies are being found. Of course they might not have been so scattered had the weather been milder. But this is not all. If for some reason the emergency door was popped at 30,000 feet by the forces generated by the air turbulence there would have been a massive decompression of the aircraft. This could be supported by the fact that there was NO MAYDAY transmission. I am now more convinced than ever that the pilot inadvertently flew directly into a third thunderstorm cell,which he did not see on his radar. In actuality he flew between two cells,but when flying at a speed of a little over 6.5 miles perminute,he flew directly into a third cell,which contained hellacious thermal updrafts. This could easily have been a rotating sort of cyclonic mass of rising warm,moisture laden air. In such a cell there is potential for upward windspeeds sometimes as high as 500MPH. If he struck such a vortex he could have ended up nearly vertical,like a rocket. His forward airspeed would have ended very quickly and as the “moment of inertia” (WEIGHT vs MASS)prevailed the aircraft would have begun it’s fall to the sea.Nor would it have been controllable,until such time as the nose fell below the level of the tail asembly. The falling velocity would increase quickly,and if the aircraft had reached an equilibrium (FLAT), if he still had power there might have been a chance of recovery. I believe that the massive updraft was so moisture laden that,it immediately turned into ice crystals which smothered both engines. In reserching thunderstorms near the equator, there are often multiple cells involved, and all could contain extremely high velocity vortex winds inside of the cell. Such violence is sometimes seen in thunderstorm cells over the lower midwest as well, and can also contain multiple cells in close proximity to each other. These are sometimes described as F4 or F5 tornados, which when seen from a distance are usually an anvil shape at extreme altitudes, and can be at altitudes of 50,000 feet and higher. They are looked upon as BAD A$$, and all pilots try very hard to avoid such monstrosities of nature.

  75. RMINNC………
    You are right on the money…….all abortions are FIRST DEGREE MURDER.


    The following TRUE story was lifted from another site I visit, but would now love to share it with my friends here at Citizenwells:

    This is an actual letter that was sent to a bank by an 86-year-old woman. It was so amusing that the bank’s manager decided to have it published in the New York Times. The letter reads:

    “Dear Sir:

    I am writing to thank you for bouncing my check with which I endeavored to pay my plumber last month.

    By my calculations, 3 nanoseconds must have elapsed between his presenting the check and the arrival in my account of the funds needed to honor it.. I refer, of course, to the automatic monthly deposit of my entire pension, an arrangement which, I admit, has been in place for only 8 years.

    You are to be commended for seizing that brief window of opportunity, and also for debiting my account $30 by way of penalty for the inconvenience caused to your bank.

    My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident has caused me to rethink my errant financial ways. I noticed that whereas I personally answer your telephone calls and letters, — when I try to contact you, I am confronted by the impersonal, overcharging, pre-recorded, faceless entity which your bank has become.

    From now on, I, like you, choose only to deal with a flesh-and-blood person.

    My mortgage and loan repayments will therefore and hereafter no longer be automatic, but will arrive at your bank, by check, addressed personally and confidentially to an employee at your bank whom you must nominate.

    Be aware that it is an OFFENSE under the Postal Act for any other person to open such an envelope.

    Please find attached an Application Contact which I require your chosen employee to complete.

    I am sorry it runs to eight pages, but in order that I know as much about him or her as your bank knows about me, there is no alternative.

    Please note that all copies of his or her medical history must be countersigned by a Notary Public, and the mandatory details of his/her financial situation (income, debts, assets and liabilities) must be accompanied by documented proof.

    In due course, at MY convenience, I will issue your employee with a PIN number which he/she must quote in dealings with me.

    I regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits but, again, I have modeled it on the number of button presses required of me to access my account balance on your phone bank service.

    As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    Let me level the playing field even further.

    When you call me, press buttons as follows:


    #1. To make an appointment to see me

    #2. To query a missing payment.

    #3. To transfer the call to my living room in case I am there.

    #4 To transfer the call to my bedroom in case I am sleeping.

    #5. To transfer the call to my toilet in case I am attending to nature.

    #6. To transfer the call to my mobile phone if I am not at home.

    #7. To leave a message on my computer, a password to access my computer is required. Password will be communicated to you at a later date to that Authorized Contact mentioned earlier.

    #8.To return to the main menu and to listen to options 1 through

    #9. To make a general complaint or inquiry. The contact will then be put on hold, pending the attention of my automated answering service.

    #10. This is a second reminder to press* for English.

    While this may, on occasion, involve a lengthy wait, uplifting music will play for the duration of the call.

    Regrettably, but again following your example, I must also levy an establishment fee to cover the setting up of this new arrangement.

    May I wish you a happy, if ever so slightly less prosperous New Year?

    Your Humble Client And remember: Don’t make old people mad. We don’t like being old in the first place, so it doesn’t take much to piss us off.”
    Well said my lady…well said !


  77. oldsailor82 | January 2, 2015 at 11:44 am |

    Bob Strauss……..
    The student debt has finally risen into the BILLIONS. Many of the borrowers thought that student loans were for LIVING expenses,and they blew all the money they received on parties,and more parties…….now they face payback. I have my doubts that Soetoro will ever force the pay back of even one penny of the debt. I think that before he leaves office he will sign a bill to forgive all the owed student debt………Around and around will go the big brass cylinder,printing more and more and more,until the dollar is no longer worth the paper it is printed on………and the students will keep right on receiving BILLIONS to BLOW on whatever they choose……and some of them will definitely do exactly that…….then ask for MORE!


    The last figure I saw on the total amount of student debt was $800 billion. That figure is probably the principal, and excludes interest and penalties.

  78. A friend from Texas told me that her Obamacare premium, which was $347/mo, just doubled.

  79. citizenwells

    bob, any way to get a copy of a document showing this?

  80. citizenwells

    “US Debt Soars By $100 Billion On Last Day Of 2014, Hits Record $18.14 Trillion”

  81. citizenwells

    Obama legacy

  82. CW, I believe she was getting a subsidy due to her income. After her accountant reformulated her obamacare premium based on her current income, she lost all or part of her subsidy. Previously, she was bragging about how great obamacare was, and how affordable it was. I will monitor her attitude about it now. She is a democrat, a lawyer, and my ex-wife. I don’t foresee getting any documents, but I will keep it in mind.

  83. citizenwells

    Thanks bob.

  84. citizenwells | January 2, 2015 at 5:22 pm |

    “US Debt Soars By $100 Billion On Last Day Of 2014, Hits Record $18.14 Trillion”
    I think the value of our country’s natural resources, when compared to the rest of the countries on this planet, gives us an advantage when or if we declare bankruptcy, or just tell the debtors to kiss our ass.

    This is a rich country, and the usurper is doing his best to give it away, and destroy it. It has to go down a long, long way to meet the standards of the Muslims. I hope he fails.

  85. CW,
    After all was said and done, her premium increased by $100.00, and $22 of that was a dental policy added.

  86. Bob Strauss…….
    While I am only guessing, I would have to think that if your ex wife is a practicing attorney,she would probably be earning at least $100,000.00 per year, and I would wonder how the sam hill is she able to get any subsidy AT ALL. Is the premium increase the yearly amount of increase,semi annual,or monthly?. If it is the annual amount of increase she is indeed lucky and/or quite skilled in selecting plans,and is definitely doing OK. I have both read and heard some accounts lately of people with families, who are now facing MONTHLY premiums in excess of $600.00, amounts to nearly $7200.00 per year. A family locally had a similar increase,and were forced to give up their new home which they bought a few years back, because the increase in the Healthcare insurance compounded by their mortgage payment stripped all of their earnings down to a bare bones existence.By the time they paid for their other obligations they were drawing money from savings,and their savings was totally expended in pretty short order. They moved into an 80 year old home,and they ended up with payments that were only a third of what their mortgage payment had been. They were lucky enough to get a fixed rate mortgage at 3.5%. He even had money enough at Christmas to enjoy a decent Christmas for a change. They are raising two daughters 4-6 years of age. He told me that they had gotten themselves into too much debt early on,and when he was laid off life became hell on earth for them.

  87. CW………
    What do you think will happen when or if all of the foreign banks start dumping the dollar? In my mind it seems that $18.4 trillion will seem like petty cash. The fed would never be able to handle a sudden dump of 20 or 30 trillion. So far only a handful have dumped the dollar.

  88. This is the last straw. McCain has to be voted out. He is using voters with Viet Nam ties to finance the purge.

    John McCain Using Obama Donors to Purge Arizona Tea Party


  89. oldsailor82 | January 2, 2015 at 8:22 pm |

    Bob Strauss…….
    While I am only guessing, I would have to think that if your ex wife is a practicing attorney,she would probably be earning at least $100,000.00 per year, and I would wonder how the sam hill is she able to get any subsidy AT ALL.
    We separated in 2003, and from what I heard, after that she got into trouble with drugs, and pretty much bankrupted herself, she lost her home and really went down hill. She is just now trying to rebuild her life, and she is doing court appointed criminal law as the mainstay of her practice, that, and family law.

  90. Bob Strauss………
    It sounds as though she is at least trying to get herself straightened out…….There are a huge number of people among us who have traversed the same path and fallen to similar circumstances,but refuse to expend any effort to rebuild their lives. Where there is effort there is hope. Many folks have ruined their lives by over indulging in alcohol,and/or drugs. There is a list of reasons a mile long. Many of these people here in Indiana have had to be made “wards of the court” (intervention) for a period of time to forcibly get them pointed in the right direction,and motivated once again. Sorry to hear about the alleged drug abuse…..never a good situation! I would think that in todays society there would be plenty of others who need criminal defense attornies. She will probably be quite busy.

  91. Bizarro.

  92. SueQ | January 3, 2015 at 10:15 am |

    This is SO very strange. It concerns Sandy Hook.

    I saw that last night, and studied the photos intently. It appears to be the same photo. Somebody is lying. Either the whole Sandy Hook thing if fake, or the photos of the “dead” Pakistani kids was faked, using pictures off of the Web to show “generic” children, because actual photos of the kids didn’t exist. Who knows what the truth is anymore?

    One other thing, the photo of “Noah” in the Pakistan story appeared to be the uncropped version of the photo on Facebook. Where did they get that photo? It didn’t come from the Facebook page.

  93. SueQ,
    I Googled, dead sandy hook kids photos, and this is what I found. Does this look familiar?
    Photo attribution was the UK Daily Mail?

  94. Thornton Parsons

    Happy New Year, Citizen Wells et al. It’s been a pretty rough autumn, but it’s over now and looking forward to a great new year. Hope everyone is doing well and on to a great new year also!

  95. Happy New Year Thornton…sorry to hear you had a rough autumn, but glad to hear you are back with us….we missed you.

  96. (Jan. 2, 2015) — A former Justice Department prosecutor currently challenging Obama’s executive actions granting deferred deportation to millions of illegal aliens wrote on Friday that Obama is a “native” of the continent of Africa.

    Atty. Larry Klayman is a WND columnist
    and founder of Freedom Watch and Judicial Watch

    The statement was made by Atty. Larry Klayman, who also challenged the constitutionality of the NSA’s spying on American citizens, after which a federal judge agreed that the spying is “almost certainly unconstitutional.”


  97. Bob Strauss…….
    …… all we have to do is make all of America’s young professional FEMALES believe what Klayman had to say. Most of the YPFs think Soetoro is the Messiah,and they will all DO WHATEVER HE TELLS THEM TO DO. Does this sort of behavior suggest high levels of intellectual capacity,or does it suggest sheer stupidity? I personally believe the latter to be the case……making Gruber right!

  98. Thornton Parsons………
    Great to see you back with us. Hope all is well for you. Looking forward to your comments.

  99. Sueq…………
    ……we all know that Connecticut is a carbon copy of California.which includes the CRAZIES……Therefore ANYTHING is possible,and/or probable,in lala land West,or lala land East. Apparently somebody is lying……..pretty difficult to DIE TWICE…………except in FANTASY LAND. I would tend to compare that with how Vince Foster died……(he shot himself dead,then got up and THREW THE GUN nearly 20′)……..What is wrong with that picture? har har.

  100. oldsailor82 | January 3, 2015 at 3:33 pm |

    Bob Strauss…….
    …… all we have to do is make all of America’s young professional FEMALES believe what Klayman had to say. Most of the YPFs think Soetoro is the Messiah,and they will all DO WHATEVER HE TELLS THEM TO DO. Does this sort of behavior suggest high levels of intellectual capacity,or does it suggest sheer stupidity? I personally believe the latter to be the case……making Gruber right!
    Gullibility combined with stupidity is my guess.

    I believe many people find the truth to be too uncomfortable to comprehend.

    I tell people that the usurper is a foreign born, Muslim, communist, foreign agent, and they look at me like I am crazy, they are in total disbelief.

    If the YPFs knew, what we here at Citizen Wells know, about the truth of what is going on in America under this usurper, their brains would explode from the overload. From Illinois in 2008, up until now, this massive fraud has been been documented for all to see, even though they will have a hard time believing what they read, it is the truth, and it is as bad as it sounds. The criminals are running the asylum.

  101. Bob Strauss

    AND NOW………
    … is one for everyone…..right from Soetoro’s own suction hole…….Americans will soon have the ability to by US government bonds DIRECT from a Soetoro managed fund. har har If anybody sees what I do this would be the LAST place I would ever park any of my money. This to me is the beginning of the government confiscation of what is left of the financial resources of Americans. After they have suckered everybody the fund will automatically collapse,and take your hard earned bucks with it (pre planned) by Soetoro. Soon thereafter I would not be surprised that a national emergency will be declared,and anyone having monetary resources will face forced confiscation of ALL of their monetary wealth including gold and silver………just as the Nazi Party did to the Jews. The next stop for the Jews was the DEATH CAMPS.

  102. …….Americas equivalent to JEWS is the CONSERVATIVES. Get ready for “Crystal Nacht”. and/or “NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES”. ……NOW ON THE VISIBLE HORIZON!

  103. oldsailor82 | January 3, 2015 at 4:30 pm |

    Bob Strauss

    AND NOW………
    … is one for everyone…..right from Soetoro’s own suction hole…….Americans will soon have the ability to by US government bonds DIRECT from a Soetoro managed fund.

    That was Soetoro’s MO in Illinois, he would look for control over the vast sums of money in various funds and then exploit them for monetary gain. Teachers funds, Hospital funds, Pension funds, it doesn’t matter, they just see millions and thry are going to steal it. They can’t help themselves.


  105. Bob Strauss………
    ……….but Americans can still help themselves………..and God will assist! ………..but if people just keep right on sitting on their duffs,God will abandon them. He helps those who HELP THEMSELVES!

  106. Goodnight all……………God Bless!

  107. oldsailor82,
    I think it would make a big difference if the Nation’s media was looking out for the interests of the US Citizens, but that is not the case, and the viewers have migrated away from the most obvious offenders, those that are in lockstep with the usurper.

  108. Any Panther fans out there?

  109. BOB STRAUSS….


  110. COMEDIANS and ANGELS- I miss my friends tonight

    Just thinking about my friends I left in Nam……God bless them

  111. Louie Gohmert just announced that he is running against John Bahoner and some other republican….. also a guy Ted????

    PRAY>>>PRAY>>>PRAY ….

  112. citizenwells

    Boehner’s gotta go.

  113. citizenwells

    Good morning Zach, et al.


    AMEN, I second that !!!

  115. CW…….re.9:00 AM

    I second the motion on Boehner!

  116. Oldsailor82…

    either Louis Gohmert or Tray Gowdey would make a great Speaker of the House who would not tolerate any of Soetoro’s Bull$hit, so………

    Let the games begin!

  117. Whistleblower

    Alert: Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn caught telling the truth!

  118. CALL CALL, CALL—email, email, email your representative…just did mine“It’s time for a change,” said Gohmert, citing the poll that showed that most Republican voters did not support Boehner’s reelection. He also criticized Boehner for breaking a previous promise not to run again.

  119. OFF TOPIC
    …..AND NOW…….
    ……..body count at 34. I personally believe that the broken fuselage of the Airbus 320 is now like shortened,oversize mailing tubes,and both ends are open to the sub surface currents,perhaps excluding the empenage,and tail section. In shallow water currents can be really powerful. It is therefore reasonable to believe that the currents are carrying some of the bodies out of the fuselage,and subsequently to the surface. If the aircraft struck the water with the nose slightly below the tail, the impact could have broken the fuselage into multiple pieces. I tend to think that without power that this is probably how it struck the water. If the aircraft was at 32,000 feet,and it penetrated into a thunderstorm cell ( which is what I believe happened) it could have SIMULTANEOUSLY been tossed into a near vertical attitude, and at that point the engines instantly ingested ice crystals,which stalled both engines. When the “moment of inertia” ensued the aircraft began a fall TAIL FIRST, gaining falling speed quickly,and probably used up at least half of the altitude,before reaching an equilibrium.(Nose level with the tail), but without power it would have been virtually impossible for the pilot to regain control,because the aircraft still has NO FORWARD AIRSPEED,rather it is at this point falling straight down,and possibly rotating as well in what is sometimes referred to as an axial spin. Without airspeed the control surfaces are useless. The pilot needed as much engine power as he could get to get the nose down,and gain airspeed. With only 16,000 feet, remaining the aircraft would use that up at 11,000 feet per minute. In conclusion the pilot could not have possibly recovered any level of control over the aircraft,because he had at best only about a little over a minute before the aircraft impacted the water.
    Interestingly had he been able to get the nose down EARLY after the stall,and had the engine power still been available,it is probable that he might have recovered control of the airplane,but in so doing the process could have resulted in extreme G forces on both the airframe,and the passengers. It would have been imperative that he dive the aircraft to quickly regain control. At that point he would have used up nearly all of his remaining altitude. Unlike Sullenberger on the Hudson,he could not regain forward airspeed. Sullenberger was extremely careful to see that he NEVER LOST forward airspeed. That is why he was able to glide the aircraft to a safe water landing……he done everything right. In both cases AIRSPEED is the MAGICAL WORD. Here is another thought involving the initial moments of the encounter with the thunderstorm cell; First of all it happened so quickly that many passengers had not yet rebuckled their seat belts. They didn’t have time. If the aircraft went nearly vertical ( to which there is some evidence it might have done) it is doubtful that many of the passengers could have rebuckled their seat belts because they would already be feeling forces trying to lift their bodies out of their seats. In such a stall people become weightless. You will remember that wannabe astronauts are treated to such an airplane ride as part of their training. But the difference is that the training aircraft follows a predetermined flight ARC which also generates a simulated weightlessness. I believe that early into the fall of the Airbus many passengers were already thrown from their seats, because they didn’t have time to react,to rebuckle their seatbelts. 34 bodies so far have floated to the surface,and this volume by itself tells a tragic story,of an passenger jet coming to an ABRUPT STOP in midair.

  120. Usurper discloses part of his background.

  121. kaks,
    I vote for Louie!

  122. DD FORM 214 — EXTRA SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT for those with active duty between January 1957 to December 31, 2001
    See the web site & notes below to possibly increase your Social Security Benefits.

    DD FORM 214 — SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT Please share this with anyone who had active duty service between January 1957 to December 31, 2001, and planning for retirement. In a nutshell it boils down to this:

    You qualify for a higher social security payment because of your Military service, for active duty any time from 1957 through 2001 (the program was done away with 1 January 2002). Up to $1200 per year of earnings credit credited at time of application – which can make a substantial difference in social security monthly payments upon your retirement. You must bring your DD-214 to the Social Security Office and you must ask for this benefit to receive it!
    Soc Sec website:

    This is something to put in your files for when you apply for Social Security down the road.. It is NOT just for retirees, BUT anyone who has served on active duty between January 1957 to December 31, 2001.

    Regional Resource Coordinator
    Maryland’s Commitment to Veterans Project State of Maryland- Southern Region Human Services Partnership Building La Plata, Maryland 2064


    In a shocking report released this week, the FBI is admitting that the 2012 Sandy Hook School shooting was not a shooting at all. It was an exercise that local…

  124. You Might Be a Democrat If… Part 2
    Posted on January 4, 2015 by Mike

    You just might be a Democrat if…

    You support a boycott of Israel, but can’t find it on a map.

    You’re an A-list movie star who takes time off promoting your new shoot-em-up action movie to speak out for more gun control.

    You’ve never been audited by the IRS.

    You’re a frequent traveler who has visited 57 states.

    You think the rainstorm that ruined your car wash was Bush’s fault.

    You call Republicans racists while sending your own kids to private school.

    You think Lois Lerner is that gal who pals around with Superman.

    You look like Obama when you throw a baseball.

    You like the way Obama looks when he throws a baseball.

    You hate all Christians, but just love the new Pope.

    Your husband wears a dress and you think he’s hot.

    Your son wears a dress and you think he’s hot.

    You won’t wear a dress, because you’re a feminist. And you’re not hot.

    The reason you’re a feminist is Bush’s fault.

    You watch ten hours a day of reality television and think conservatives are misinformed.

    You think you know what’s best for America, but you don’t know who Joe Biden is.

    Your most prized possession is your EBT card.

    You mouth off to the person behind you in line at the grocery store when they gave you a second look for buying steak, lobster, and wine with your EBT card.

    You’re a white-skinned, blue-eyed politician who claims to be Native American.

    Your idea of class and sophistication is Michelle Obama with a runny nose.

    Your idea of a positive role model for your daughter is Kim Kardashian.

    You buy gossip magazines at the checkout counter (with your EBT card) and wish you were Kim Kardashian.

    You’re an artist who survives on government grants.

    You think the Second Amendment is meant for hunters.

    You’re a Hollywood actor who makes good money making bad movies.

    You’re a teacher who hates kids.

    You hate kids, period.

    You’re a teacher, period.

    You think it’s your right as an American to have food stamps, free health care, and live in your parents’ basement.

    You actually like living in your parents’ basement.

    You have a picture of Che Guevara hanging in your parents’ basement.

    You’re living in your parents’ basement, because it’s Bush’s fault.

    Your parents pay for your car, your insurance, and all your living expenses, but to you they’re capitalist pigs.

    You think your parents, who pay your $20,000 a year college tuition, the rent for your off-campus apartment, and all your living expenses, don’t know anything about life, but your angry college professor, who hates America and has never held a job in the private sector, is a genius.

    You’re furious that George Bush might have lied about WMDs, but you believe every word that comes from Obama’s teleprompter.

    You just lost your health insurance and you think it’s Bush’s fault.


    You go ga-ga over the man who calls himself Obama, but couldn’t care less about Americans deserted at Benghazi.

    You think anyone who disagrees with you is a racist.

    You say you’re not a racist, but you support affirmative action and hiring quotas based on skin color.

    You speak passionately about equality and the redistribution of wealth, but you won’t share your bag of Planters Peanuts with your cell mate.

    You hate Sarah Palin because she’s everything you’re not.

    You live in Chicago and you’re well known at every voting precinct in the city, especially on Election Day.

    You’ve been dead for twenty years, but you voted for Obama forty-seven times.

    And it’s all Bush’s fault.


    For more, see the original post:

  125. Saudi Arabia’s top religious leader okays pedophilia

    Grand Mufti Abdulzaiz’s more recent ruling on marrying young girls comes following a similar ruling in 2011 by Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent cleric and member of the Saudi’s highest religious council, who issued a fatwa, or religious edict, that there is no minimum age to marry girls, “even if they are in the cradle.”

    There is nothing in Islamic, or Shariah law, that sets a minimum age limit on marrying girls.

    Scholars say the age of marrying young girls and consummating the “marriage” is based on the example set by Muhammad when he married Aisha when she was no more than seven years of age, consummating the marriage when she was nine.

    “The grand point of the Saudi fatwa, however, is not that girls as young as nine can be married, based on Muhammad’s example, but rather that there is no age limit whatsoever,” Middle East expert Raymond Ibrahim writes in Middle East Forum. “The only question open to consideration is whether the girl is physically capable of handling her ‘husband.’ The lives of countless young girls are devastated because of this teaching.”

    Ibrahim cited the cases of an 8-year-old girl who died on her “wedding” night when her “husband” raped her; and a 10-year-old girl who hid from her 80-year-old “husband.”

    Grand Mufti Abdulaziz and Fawzan’s fatwas come even as Saudi men have been reportedly purchasing young girls from Syrian refugee camps in Lebanon and Jordan.

  126. Bob Strauss…….
    Now you know one of the reasons why I refer to such people as B-A-S-T-A-R-D-S. It is EXACTLY what they are. Their twisted ,sick,criminal,and otherwise perverted mindset,is in no other religion on earth…….only in that of the “nanny goat copulators”……..further the BASTARDS are some of the most STINKING people on earth. In reality they are at a level far below the lowest animal form. I still believe that the New York pathologist was right in his analysis paper which he sent to the AMA way back in the 1950s wherein he stated that in ALL of the post mortems he had done upon people who were raised in the middle east, showed that ALL…..both male, and female had excessive levels of calcium throughout their brains. He alleged that the high levels of calcium are contributory to the early development of neurotic behavior.(insanity). He was nearly laughed out of town by all the alleged KNOW IT ALLS,who IN TRUTH themselves had no idea even what he was talking about……but they thought they KNEW IT ALL. Sound familiar……..another description for them is “OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS” BTW he also implied that it is probably a result of slurping up goats milk like it is going out of style……..goats notoriously have “EXTREMELY HARD HEADS, AND VERY STINKING A$$ES.” MAYBE THE BASTARDS ARE REALLY PART GOAT. THEIR BEARDS ARE PRETTY CLOSE APPROXIMATIONS OF BILLY GOAT BEARDS. I WOULD CONCLUDE THAT IF THEY LOOK LIKE A BILLY GOAT,SMELL LIKE A BILLY GOAT,AND SOUND LIKE A BILLY GOAT….. THEY MUST BE KISSING COUSINS AT THE VERY LEAST.

  127. Bob (6 pm),
    That article certainly is plausible and backed up by the FBI website reporting -0- deaths in 2012. If it IS true – and all signs point that it is – Fox at least should be all over this, but as the article says the media won’t want to admit they were snookered in by this horrible hoax. Soetoro was in on this, we know, and if this isn’t an impeachable offense, I don’t know what is.

  128. and now………
    …….on a very sad note…..only one little girl survived the crash of a Piper PA 34 near Paducah Kentucky. She crawled from the upside down aircraft and walked nearly a mile,in near freezing weather to a house where a 71 year old person answered the door,and quickly discovered that he was looking at the SOLE SURVIVOR of an airplane crash nearby. She walked through heavy brush, with only one shoe,and was dressed for Florida weather where the aircraft originated. She told him that her parents was both dead. Can you imagine the level of compounded mental attrition she was experiencing,all at the same time? Perhaps it was because of her young mind that she was able to survive long enough to find help.
    The pilot (her father) was an instrument,and multiple engine certified pilot,and flight instructor. He radioed that he was experiencing an engine problem. My only question to that is was it both engines or just one? Multi engine certifications are earned by those who can demonstrate to a certified FAA examiner that they can keep the aircraft airborne with one engine. Most light twins are powered for that possible extreme. In addition this particular aircraft was equipped with turbo chargers. These were Lycoming 180 HP engines. He could have kept the airplane in the air on one engine,at least for the 7 mile distance to an emergency airport landing, which the controllers were trying to get him lined up with. Something else happened after he lost the first engine. He stopped at Tallahasee to fuel up, and I am wondering if he checked and drained of the condensation from the sumps before he took off .Anytime you fuel up or your airplane and it sets for several days after fueling the preflight must include inspecting and draining the condensation sump. If he failed to do that there is a remote possibility that he received heavily moisture saturated fuel which eventually blocked the fuel system of BOTH ENGINES. That would be the only way that he could lose both engines nearly simultaneously. Both engines have multiple magnetos,so I seriously doubt that it was an ignition failure.
    The PA 34 has been produced since 1971,and is one of the most popular aircraft of it’s type. It also has an excellent safety record…..even though there has been a few of them crashed,but in all instances it was PILOT ERROR as determined by NTSB.

  129. CabbyAZ…….
    I would also add that a lot of newspapers across the country also now have scrambled aggs all over their faces. But inside of me I still think it really happened and that now there is an ongoing effort to mislead the public by the FBI whose boss is Lil Barry. They will say or publish anything that he requests. The only way to find out the truth would be to contact one of the parents who allegedly lost a child, and ask them if their child is still alive? That should be simple enough.!

  130. Thornton Parsons

    OldSailor82, Radar Ziva has a lake house not far from the crash site; that is so tragic for that poor little girl. It hurts me to think what she endured while trying to find someone alive. Her life is now changed forever and the images will haunt her through her adulthood. I wonder if they could have survived if they had tried to land in Kentucky Lake (you know, the way Sully landed the plane in the Hudson). I don’t know much about aircraft.

  131. Old Sailor, you make a good point. The FBI is also corrupt just like its parent, DOJ. We always used to believe that the FBI was stellar when it came to ethics, truth and duty. Just like the court system, it has become dubious, too. “Truth is fallen in the streets”, the Bible says. There is so much conspiracy that has swirled around Sandy Hook that it is hard to pin one’s beliefs on anything firm, I guess.

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