Obamacare increases premiums in 45 states, Deductibles skyrocket, 27 year old in VA up 252 percent, Obama lied about keeping your insurance and reducing costs
“The study says 27-year-old men in Nebraska will see a whopping 279 percent increase in premiums and 27-year-old women in Nebraska will get an also-shocking 227 percent increase in rates.”…Watchdog.org
“If you’ve got health insurance we’re going to work with you to lower your premiums by $2,500 per family per year. We will not wait 20 years from now to do it, or 10 years from now to do it. We will do it by the end of my first term as president.”…Barack Obama
“Can we stop calling ObamaCare the Affordable Care Act now?”…Guilford College student
Obamacare is increasing healthcare premiums in 45 states.
A 27 year old in Virginia will see an increase of over 252 percent.
And one of the biggest under reported Obama scandals is the skyrocketing deductibles under Obamacare.
From the Heritage Foundation October 16, 2013.
“Enrollment in Obamacare’s health insurance exchanges has proven to be a somewhat difficult process amidst technical glitches and delays. Aside from the issues associated with actually purchasing health care, once an individual gets a quote for health insurance on an exchange, is the premium higher or lower than before?
“Our research finds that for many states, the insurance on health exchanges will cost more than existing insurance. This study illustrates that the general experience for individuals shopping on the exchange is that of increasing premiums from what was available to them prior to implementation of the exchanges. Many families and individuals will face this reality as they apply for coverage, and the implications of experiencing sticker shock are important to consider if enough people choose not to sign up for coverage for various reasons.”
Individuals in most states will end up spending more on the exchanges. It is true that in some states, the experience could be the opposite. This is because those states had already over-regulated insurance markets that led to sharply higher premiums through adverse selection, as is the case of New York. Many states, however, double or nearly triple premiums for young adults. Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Kansas, and Vermont see some of the largest increases in premiums.”
Read more:
A young father was interviewed recently on the Glenn Beck Radio Show.
Citizen WElls 
“Obama should be thankful for all the news about the government shutdown and the debt limit crisis because it pushed the
complete and utter failure of Obamacare off the front pages.”
John Hammer, Rhino Times Oct 17, 2013.
“Individual policy pricing skyrockets under Obamacare, broker site says”
“Take a married, mid-50s male living in northern Los Angeles County. To cover that person and his wife immediately, eHealth offers policies ranging from $493 a month, with a $40 copay for the first two office visits and deductibles of $3,300 for an individual and $6,600 for a family from Anthem Blue Cross.
Meanwhile, Cigna Corp. CI offers a plan for $1,378 a month with deductibles of $1,000 for individuals and $2,000 for family and office visit charges of $30 to $40.
That all changes if you’re buying a policy that starts covering in 2014. Blue Shield of California offers the cheapest plan at $900 a month with deductibles of $4,500 for individuals and $9,000 for families. The Blue Shield policy also covers only 60% of costs.
A plan with no deductibles and $20 copays is available for HealthNet Inc. HNT , but it’ll cost you — $1,952 a month, to be exact.”
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/health-exchange/2013/10/17/individual-policy-pricing-skyrockets-under-obamacare-broker-site-says/
Good article CW….
Does this mean that we can now say , with facts to prove to prove it, that we are BEING TAXED TO DEATH?
The TEA Party had this Obama scam right from the start.
I’m just waiting for the fireworks to start after this becomes PUBLIC knowledge that is understood by every citizen……now we know why he’s building that private “secuirty force”….his own damn protection..
RMinNC.
I was just speaking to one of my friends & his continued frustration of dealing with brainwashed libs.
The rising premiums & deductibles may be the turning point.
October 16, 2013
Matthew Vadum:
“Obamacare at the Movies: Hollywood Plans Blitz to Promote Unpopular Law”
“If you’re sick and tired of TV news broadcasts spewing pro-Obamacare propaganda, get ready to be inundated with even more progressive health care proselytizing in the dramas and comedies that follow those news shows.
For this you have the left-wing California Endowment to thank. The radical philanthropy is in the news because it is funding Obamacare public outreach efforts.
As Newsmax reports, the Obama administration is “turning its focus on prime time television series, using the influential platform and the power of celebrity to spread the word about its healthcare initiative.”
With the White House’s blessing, the University of Southern California’s Annenberg Norman Lear Center, which has something called a “Hollywood, Health & Society program,” has accepted a $500,000 grant from the left-wing California Endowment to help TV producers condition the masses into supporting Obama’s Soviet-style health care program.
USC will aim to keep producers, writers, and directors up to speed so they can incorporate the latest information into their storylines. It will also generate public service announcements to match the TV shows’ storylines.”
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-vadum/2013/10/15/obamacare-movies-hollywood-plans-blitz-promote-unpopular-law
When they’ve taken everything in our nation but our SOULS…will we finally stand and fight….or will be get on bended knee?
When there are finally only two choices left ….which would you choose?
Die as a free men,,,or live as a slave?
It should be fun watching all the moonbats’ premiums go through the roof under CommieCare; this was supposed to happen to everyone else but not to them, ya know.
This was lifted from Freeper. Oh, how is miss Paul Harvey.
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO SAY ABOUT OBAMACARE?
ObamaCare Website Wasn’t Tested Until a Week Before Deployment
—Ace
Hahahahaha……(and guess who tested it for Obama…that comes next..)
We should start calling Obama’s White House the Alpha-Test Administration.
No we shouldn’t. That’s dumb.
I got nothin’.
In other ObamaFAIL news:
A design firm, not wishing to be associated with failure, removes all references to its work on ObamaCare….(wonder if that could have been Microsoft)
Tech experts say it needs at least a three-week shut down so that the massive problems can be fixed .(translated to REAL government time, that means at least three years)
Trust the government, folks…..:( watch what the left hand is doing….while the right hand is in your back pocket)
The federal health care exchange was built using 10-year-old technology that may require constant fixes and updates for the next six months ( in REAL government time …that means at least six years) and the eventual overhaul of the entire system (that means a complete scrap of the non-functional system ), technology experts told USA TODAY.
“The application could be fundamentally flawed,” said Jeff Kim, president of CDNetworks, a content-delivery network. “They may be using 1990s technology in 2.0 world.”
Recent changes have made the exchanges easier to use, but they still require clearing the computer’s cache several times, stopping a pop-up blocker, talking to people via Web chat who suggest waiting until the server is not busy, opening links in new windows and clicking on every available possibility on a page in the hopes of not receiving an error message. With those changes, it took one hour to navigate the HealthCare.gov enrollment process Wednesday.
Those steps shouldn’t be necessary, experts said.
“It is a core problem in the sense of it’s fundamental to this thing actually working, but it’s not necessarily a problem that the people who wrote HealthCare.gov can get to,” Engates said. “Even if they had a perfect system, it still won’t work.”
Seems to me that’s what everybody has been telling those experts
And finally this original comment says it all:
More people have applied to live on Mars than have signed up for Obamacare……. http://t.co/eVJXhsG0kS cc @ezraklein
— S.M (@redsteeze) October 17, 2013
So there’s that……Don’t you just love the Mars comment ?
WOULD ANYONE LIKE A SECOND CLASS TICKET TO MARS?
taken from:my last post
Over 200,000 people have applied to live on Mars as part of an ambitious proposal by private foundation Mars One to establish a human settlement on the Red Planet by 2023.
Amongst the 200,000+ applicants are four who, according to the Mars One mission roadmap, would leave Earth forever in 2022 and arrive on Mars in 2023.
There are no plans for any of the settlers to return to Earth and the chosen few must come to terms with leaving Earth behind for the rest of their lives.
The application process opened on 22 April this year. 202,586 applications from 140 countries were received through the online process. The largest numbers were from the United States (24 percent), India (10 percent), China (6 percent), Brazil (5 percent), Great Britain (4 percent), Canada (4 percent), Russia (4 percent), Mexico (4 percent), Philippines (2 percent), Spain (2 percent), Colombia (2 percent), Argentina (2 percent), Australia (1 percent), France (1 percent), Turkey (1 percent), Chile (1 percent), Ukraine (1 percent), Peru (1 percent), Germany (1 percent), Italy (1 percent) and Poland (1 percent).
Over the next two years the applicants will be whittled down to a small number of teams (six to ten) each consisting of four people.
A TV programme, with public voting, is central to the selection process and, more importantly, to raise the money to fund the vision.
The final teams will all undergo seven years of training for their emigration to Mars, with a global TV show’s public voting deciding the first team to leave for the Red Planet.
Screening the 200,000+ applications is going to take some time, though Mars One expects to have completed the screening by the end of this year. This will require the organisation to screen nearly 3,000 applicants a day between September and December.
Candidates through to round three would be interviewed by the Mars One selection committee. Round three also envisages public voting through television. After interviews, twenty to forty applicants from each region would appear in a TV show with a winner being chosen from each region. Additional participants would be selected by the Mars One panel to go through with the audience selections to the final round.
Those through to round four will need to be conversational in English, with the final selection process being billed as a global TV show. The global TV audience would select the final six to ten teams of four who would become full time employees of the Mars One astronaut corps. The organisation cautions that some individuals or teams could be de-selected during the seven years of training.
A global TV show would decide which of the final teams would be the first Mars One crew.
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I didn’t see where Africa had any entries in this venture. Just wait until the NAACP gets a copy of this report…I can just hear the cries of racist… discrimination…bigots…Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton will have a field day marching in every city beating their drums with their demands….
p.s.
I hope they have someone accredited developing this Mars system program…and test it long before a one week departure date !
If you have the time, here is something worth watching.
RMinNC,
This is for you my friend. It’s what happens when the Government builds instead of the private sector. LOL
William………..Re 4:24AM
You hit the spike squarely on the head my friend.
CW…….
Looks as though the National Association of Insurance Underwriters had it right in what they had to say a couple of months back. They ALL warned that Healthcare Premiums would go astronomical. Looks like they knew what they were talking about. Between the cost of fuel,the cost of food,the cost of rent,and mortgage payments,even the person who makes $250,000 a year will have a tough time paying his bills. As for somebody who is living off his SS income he would be well advised to lie down now,or pick up a rifle
Boehner and his cohorts made a major mistake when they perpetrated their action against Soetoro. Now they are being blamed for EVERYTHING even OBAMACARE PREMIUMS. The MORONS in our country are so damn stupid that they think the RINOS are the ones responsible for Soetorocare. As I have said many times it is the NITWITS who will be the death of everybody. Our young people think they are INVINCIBLE, and don’t need insurance, our seniors cannot afford the impending cost,and small business operators face huge losses in trying to maintain a profit margin using part time personell.. Soon EVERYTHING WILL STOP. Hope everybody is prepared to live as people lived in in Biblical times..Hell on earth is soon to strike. The sheer weight of the alleged Soetorocare is soon going to be felt,and it is going to CRUSH America,and it will include the LIBERAL LUNATICS har har.
“Obamacare’s Failure In One Chart”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-17/obamacares-failure-one-chart
What is coming will probably FINISH off the LIBERAL LUNATICS. Sadly it is going to finish off a HELL of a lot of our population. If everything stops it will include food production,electricity,fuel, (home heating),and vehicle. You would be well advised to install a well engineered WOODBURNING central heat. Just like the Amish once had,and many still have. You will need to learn hoe to grow your own food and how to can it. You might even have to learn how to make your own glass jars to can your foods,and even make the lids to seal them with. It ain’t going to be pretty. You might learn how to dry fruit,and meat.But you have to acquire both first. I seriously doubt that America’s wildlife will support all of America. There will probably be a food famine. If food is not being produced it will become more valuable than GOLD. You might end up eating earth worms for protein intake..As you eat the worms think about why it is happening.
…………….and WHO IS RESPONSIBLE…………then DO what your mind tells you to do. You will have very little left to lose……..except your life, which probably will not be worth a plugged nickel anyway. If you are fortunate enough to own a HOGLEG or two,you might want to consider open carry. The black punk,GANGS will be out RAPEING,ROBBING,MURDERING,AND BEATING PEOPLE. LEARN TO USE YOUR HOGLEG,IT MIGHT SAVE YOUR LIFE.
Knew they would screw up people’s personal info….better make sure they have your correct info if having to go to hospital….you may get an amputation rather than an Xray!
Obamacare woes widen as insurers get wrong data
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-woes-widen-as-insurers-get-wrong-data-2013-10-18
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Also, beware the cashless society…it’s arrival is almost here:
http://www.infowars.com/chase-bank-limits-cash-withdrawals-bans-international-wire-transfers/
http://www.naturalnews.com/042529_Chase_bank_capital_controls_financial_red_alert.html
CW…………
I would venture to guess that 36,000 people is not enough to even generate a DROP IN THE BUCKET,compare with what is actually needed. Har har. I have read that about 50 million was needed early on….otherwise it would not generate enough funding to operate the system. Har harIt is unclear if Soetorocare will EVER get that many people signed up. Only the outright MORONS,nutcases,drugheads, and diseased people, will beat a path to the signup table.
“Obamacare woes widen as insurers get wrong data”
“Emerging errors include duplicate enrollments, spouses reported as children, missing data fields and suspect eligibility determinations, say executives at more than a dozen health plans”
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-woes-widen-as-insurers-get-wrong-data-2013-10-18?dist=beforebell
oldsailor81 | October 18, 2013 at 8:13 am |
CW…………
I would venture to guess that 36,000 people is not enough to even generate a DROP IN THE BUCKET,
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OldSailor,
I think they needed somewhere around 9 million young healthy people to sign up in order to barely support it. It’s over that counting subsidies.
P.S. I thought RMinNC would get a kick out of that video.. 🙂 Glad you liked it too.
………I fel very lucky……my premiums only doubled. Of course I am keeping in mind that the doubling is only the beginning. My guess is that my premiums will probably increase at least 500%. Just being realistic. I am guessing that Anthem will soon be charging me at least $400.00 per month. My Healthcare premium went from $34.00 to $62.00 per month. I have an Advantage Plan which I tend to think are going to come to a screeching halt soon. My advisor told me that the premium might go to three figures.
oldsailor81 | October 18, 2013 at 8:25 am |
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I believe you are absolutely correct my friend. I also think that’s why they added the penalty portion, in order to raise the hell out of it when people opt out. They will make the penalty so high, you cannot afford not to get it.
Put another way,
Currently the penalty (Tax) is only $95 per person that doesn’t sign up. That is not working, young healthy people will instead pay the 95 dollars. Since it’s not working, raise that fee up to $5000 for not signing up, and they have little choice. That’s what they are discussing right now, since it’s failing.
William………
I can only GUESS what your premiums will be if you have your wife and kids on your policy. My Guess would be at least $2500.00 a month. Maybe you would be lucky to even buy coverage at that figure. Hell is coming a lot faster than anybody ever suspected.
Oldsailor,
Currently I still have the company offered insurance and for a family of 4, the 80/20 policy with a $1,500 individual deductible and $3,000 family deductible, I pay almost $600 per month.
Just to clarify,
Part of that is life insurance, which accounts for about $50 per month of that total. The other $520 is just health insurance. It’s a house payment, that’s for sure.
By the way,
Why can facebook CEO Mark Zuckerburg build a website for less than a thousand dollars and have 2 million users, but the Government spends 600 million and cannot have 36 thousand users?
LMAO… Seems they should have hired Mark and saved taxpayers a ton of money.
Sorry,
should be over 1 billion users, on facebook. not million.
William……….
All of which clearly demonstrates just how twisted the liberal minds are. They don’t seem to remember that 46 million people are receiving Federal FOOD STAMPS. which they probably would not be getting if they had any money. So where the hell does the horse’s asses think people are going to get the money to either pay the premiums or the elevated fines. Har har.
William……..
I personally am praying that it collapses a hell of a lot quicker than we believe it will. At least everybody will be free of it. Remember the LIBERAL left OWNS it,and it will be they upon whom the crumbling monster will first strike. If they start putting people in jail they have to feed,and clothe them,as well as provide HEALTHCARE for them …..FOR FREE. I guess that would open a few FEMA CAMPS. Just think you wouldn’t be required to work,and you would get FREE FOOD, CLOTHES,HEALTHCARE,and a GRASS SHACK TO LIVE IN.
……in all probability you would not have any income tax liability either. HAR HAR……………hell just think you could sit on your ass.do nothing and get 100% in return. A grass shack can’t be all that bad. Some folks might even see it as an expense paid vacation! har har. I might be one of them! har har
Giant Statue of Jesus Christ Erected in Syria
The height of the bronze statue is 39 m together with the plinth, which is taller than the statue of the Christ in Rio de Janeiro (38 m). One can see the sculpture from Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, and Israel. (Public Radio of Armenia)
A new statue of Jesus Christ was erected on top of a Syrian mountain this week. The statue is taller than the Christ in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. –
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/giant-statue-of-jesus-christ-erected-in-syria/
Wonder who the first volunteer suicide bomber will be to take it down? Or perhaps one of Obama’s “misguided” drones might do the job.
Observer……
It would be my thought that the statues are being erected as an act of defiance against the Jihadists. Boy I wish I was 50 years younger……I would love to show the Jihadists just what “jihad” is. It would give me absolute pleasure to “DO ONTO THEM AS THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE UPON INNOCENT CHRISTIANS”. The only difference is that it would come off the end of a conveyor belt…….NONSTOP…..and CONTINUOUS. If “JIHADISTS” want JIHAD, lest give it to them NONSTOP. Perhaps we could generate at least 5000martyrs per hour.
…………….I believe that today would be a really great day to BURN SOMEMORE pages out of my sacrificial Kouran. Yep I am STILL AT IT! har har. I hope that Allah can produce 180,000 virgins per hour.
OldSailor,
I do too, but the problem is that the RINO’s want that as well, but by waiting for it to fail, which it will, it will have already utterly destroy the private market.
William………
it will do that irregardless!
……..but at the same time perhaps return a little sanity to the Healthcare Insurance market.
……..maybe we would even be able to buy Healthcare Ins OUT OF STATE. Would do a lot to bring premium costs in line.
WILLIAM…
This is a great example of how things can get fuc*ed up when the government gets involved….I LOVED IT !!!….THANKS
In musing about the disastrous website set up for O’Care, I can’t help but relate to the gov’t. IRS website, which has been up and running for umpteen years and does NOT interact with its users, like enrollments, etc.
In other words, the IRS has strictly an informational site with “chat” capability if needed. It is far LESS complex than the O’Care site, but yet it is very low on the totem pole when it comes to usability. Glitches occur frequently, and it is much less versatile than the complex shopping sites, like Home Depot, etc. Par for the course when it comes to “government.”
In fact, when I want to research something, I’ve found it much faster and easier to “google” in the topic rather than use the IRS “search”, which is liable to miss the mark quite often.
COUNT ME IN
Reporting for duty ,Sir !
RMINNC……….
When ticks get on a dogs behind there is only oneway to getrid of them. One at a time,and with a pair of tweezers. You grab ahold of the tick clamp tightly then pull lightly, and steadily……. after a little while the tick lets
go. Soetoro is like a TICK on a DOGS ass. but unlike a pair of tweezers I would recommend an F350 with dualies,and a turbo diesel engine. You apply a garotte, tie the loose end to the rear of the truck,start the engine,and hit the pedal to the metal.
Africa now has 55 Billionaires……..why don’t we ever hear of them helping feed the poor starving people of that region of the world? …Also we have assumed Oprah Winfrey was the richest woman in the world…not so…read the article.
http://beforeitsnews.com/strange/2013/10/african-billionaires-55-billionaires-including-richest-woman-and-its-not-oprah-2-2452110.html
…….TICK REMOVAL guaranteed. Of course don’t forget to put the truck in compound low(GRANNY GEAR),before hitting the throttle! I had hoped that one of the truckers would have excised the TICK from the WHACKY HOUSE. I guess that was too much to ask.
OLDSAILOR81…good morning fiend.
If that don’t get the tick out theres only one thing to do….bring in the nukes!!!
However on most of my old dogs…a little kerosene rubbed into the area has always done the trick….
RMINNC…………..
It seems to me that the people of Africa get plenty to eat. Everytime I see somebody from the region he/she do not appear very undernourished to me. In fact I have seen a few who were out and out LARD ASSES. Perhaps I am not looking in the right direction.
RMINNC…………
Years ago I used to apply a few dabs of UNDILUTED sheepdip. Gives the ticks real hot asses.
If you remember the old product that used to be called LYSOL.UNDILUTED sheep dip is almost PURE undiluted LYSOL. Makes WOOLIES stink for a few days. Dogs too.
OLDSAILOR81….
I know a few democrats, republicans and nuturals that need a little bit of that undiluted sheepdip applied to their asses too..it might get them moving in the right direction…..then again it might not…but its worth a try.
P.s. Most of that money making those 55 billionaires most likely came out of the US Treasury, don’t you think?
Do you think we are too old to apply for a GREEN CARD?…seem like that the area where all the bennies will soon be going !
We are living in the times of robbing PETER to pay Peter, Paul, and Mary are now upon us…..It sure is a lousy way to solve the social issues we have, but that’s the Communist way, which in fashion for a while..
A good work program no food stamps, and let families take care of their own might get some lazy ass people up off their butts and doing something. As long as the government is willing to feed, cloth, and shelter the “useless feeders”…why should they try to improve their position in life?……but thats what happens when you put the libs in control…they want to be in control of EVERYTHING…..and that means the average hardworking citizen winds up paying for their hair brain schemes to give more to the “useless feeders”
Lets see what happens when 330,000,000 people are all receiving FEDERAL FOOD stamps,and NOBODY has any money. BYE BYE IRS,…..BYE BYE FED GOV.
………if you can’t beat them….JOIN THEM! Become a TICK ON THEIR ASSES.. If enough people do that ….once again…. BYE BYE IRS……and BYE BYE FED.
OldSailor,
Hmmmm.. I think China did that once (actually more than that) and begun a human cannibal policy.
IB had it right! Go on disability,and suck everything you can from the FED. Hell you will be able to live in a little grass shack on Waikiki,and lay around and do nothing all day. You could try being a beachcomber, or stay drunk 24hrs a day.
“The Terminator”. Lawsuit wants to change Constitution,on Obama’s coat tails? http://www.prisonplanet.com/schwarzenegger-wants-constitution-changed-for-a-2016-presidential-run.html
I might just put on my backwoods bib overalls,and fire up a kettle of corn mash. Hell where I live all you have to do is step outside and you can smell pot burning 24/7,so why not put a little stink of my own into the atmosphere. Have the whole neighborhood drunk from sniffing the air.
James………
The Terminator could site precedent,by suggesting that Soetoro was a DUAL CITIZEN also, yet the MORONS in our country and the SNOT NOSED COLLEGE females saw fit to elect Soetoro. They didn’t even give a damn if he was ineligible or not. They think he is “C-O-O-L,MAN.” iN FACT IT IS MY BELIEF THAT MOST OF THE SNOT NOSED PIMPLY FACED,COLLEGE FEMALES,would lie down in the middle of main st.USA if they thought Soetoro would service them. With out a doubt the same thing applies to the Arnold.
…….I hasten to add that fortunately not all of the college kids are like that. But sadly MOST have a LIBERAL MINDSET.
BYE BYE Have a great day all. Godbless
Gordo, my pc tech, this one is for you.
I had asked you about 8 months ago about java and its risks. Since I was unable to disable it, i went ahead and uninstalled. Recently I reinstalled and the newer version allows you to disable it when not needed. Well lo and behold, I am getting a trojan that my virus protector is blocking and has put it into a virus vault, so I don’t believe it has infected anything yet. The trouble is after several days, it keeps trying to access my pc and my AVG keeps blocking it. I have run several virus scans from different places. ie. Microsoft safety scanner, spybot , malware bytes, super anti-spyware and cc cleaner. Nothing shows up on any of these scans.
I was wondering if you might suggest an online service that could detect and remove this problem.
Thanking you in advance for all your technical support.
Looks ‘Like Old Fly on the Nose’, or sometimes called “Old Fly on the Ear. or chin or , or Lips”. sometimes called, “Eagle Who Cannot Fly” by the Indians, well what ever he is called by, and what ever the case may be, he is setting new records……He can’t seem to give away the money that we just borrowed fast enough…..
From Drudge this a.m.
U.S. debt jumps a record $328 billion — tops $17 trillion for first time.
U.S. debt jumped a record $328 billion on Thursday, the first day the federal government was able to borrow money under the deal President Obama and Congress sealed this week.
The debt now equals $17.075 trillion, according to figures the Treasury Department posted online on Friday.
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Let me see if I can do my math lesson for today:
328billionx365(days)= $ 119,000Billion dollars deeper in debt by this time next year……added to our existing debt of 17.075 Trillion…??????????? .This is getting out of my pay grade to compute !
Oh well it won’t make much difference…I have always said, “You can’t get blood out of the turnip”…then their come back has been…”Yea, but we can take the turnip”…then my come back has always been “only if you pry it from my dead cold hands”.
I hope everyone has a nice Friday, kickback afternoon and evening thinking about the unstable, power crazy, spent happy, man-child ( I’m being nice today) sitting in the WH, when he should be sitting in the Nut House.
oldsailor81 commented
“IB had it right! Go on disability,and suck everything you can from the FED. Hell you will be able to live in a little grass shack on Waikiki,and lay around and do nothing all day. You could try being a beachcomber, or stay drunk 24hrs a day.”
Don’t you be doing what I’m attempting to do.
The more people on the program, the less I get.
I’m not greedy or anything, but……………….
LOL
I’d also like to comment that:
I am someone!!!!!!!!!
oldsailor AND RMinNC read my comments.
I’ve hit the big time, no doubt about it.
I respect BOTH of them, and to know they read my comments……………
🙂
I’m thinking about changing my avatar.
Any suggestions?
Keep in mind I REALLY like my avatar.
Not sure if avatar is the right word.
Oh well, I’m going with that.
With the debt jumping so much in one day, How can people NOT understand that this is all a facade.
It’s all make believe bullcrap what they spew.
We are in for a big shake up.
And by that I’m not suggesting it’s going to be a good kind of shake up.
Finally,
SueK commented:
“It should be fun watching all the moonbats’ premiums go through the roof under CommieCare; this was supposed to happen to everyone else but not to them, ya know.”
Oh they’ll find a way to blame the Republicans for it.
There will be some big ad campaign and they’ll spew their rhetoric and the media will repeat it without actually checking facts first.
I will also predict right here and now that this “budget deal” will ENSURE that the Democrats get control of the House.
Lord help us if they do, with a lame duck President he’ll get to pay his friends even more on his way out.
The Republicans did themselves no favors by caving. They allowed the Government to be shut down in the first place, and then got NOTHING for it.
To be honest, I don’t think we’d be any better off with a Republican President and Congress.
Same crap, both parties.
Besides, BOTH parties need to GO.
And don’t forget IB, you can apply for a Hawaii birth certificate.
The major problem facing the whole world today is a simple problem…with a simple fix.
First to the PROBLEM: The problem is that every sovereign country in the world today is operation on a DEBT economy…that means that they must always be BORROW money to run their government and economy.
Any serious student of history knows this as a fact. Our history books tell us that in the 1800’s when Europe was being raped by Napoleon, Nathan Rothschild, of the Rothschild banking family, was sitting in London making loans to both side of that war….to England and her allies,,,and to France and her allies….it made no difference who won or lost, the Rothschilds banking cartel would profit from the wasted effort….. and their empire grew.
That same bunch of “con artist” then looked to America , who has just won her Independence from England and saw another ripe plum to pick. The were at fist successful until Old Hickory came along. When Andy Jackson saw the con game that the Central Banking system was pulling on the new nation struggling with all this borrowing and fiat (loaning make believe money) banking, Jackson vowed “by the eternal God, he would drive them out”…and he did…. In return, the cartel sent an
killer to take old Andy out. Luckily, both barrels of two flintlocks misfired that had been placed up to Andy’s chest….the Andy beat the hell out of him with that hickory stick he carried around….The attempt to kill him failed and Jackson put this nation a back on a ZERO debt…..We owed nothing to no body…and we prospered and expanded on our own…
This prosperity did not last though., along came 1913 and a weak liberal president let the Central International banking cabal caught out democrat Congress and weak president at a weak moment and vote into law the Federal Reserve and the IRS to enforce that law.
England’s war with Germany (WWI) was going badly and had drained the money reserves of all participating nation badly……of course the banking family of Rothschild was supporting both sides of this conflict too and really didn’t give a damn who won or lost….they would have their pound of flesh either way…..so with America now on a Central banking system and the Feds and IRS on their side…..tons and tons of new money suddenly appeared in England and France to fund this blood slaughter…in the end, again there were no winners but Germany got stuck with the bill…..and America got sucked into the con game that has now been going on in America for 100 years now.
The rest of the story you know.
Today, our nation is 17.5TRILLION dollars in debt and reaching out with both hand for more money to squander…. to them “DEBT IS PROSPERITY”. and it’s all because of the International DEBT economy that the whole world operates under.
This leads to a final solution question. IF every nation has a DEBT economy, as they do,…then who has all the money? That question is kind of like the monkey chasing his tail…..Well of course the Rothschild International banking cartel has all the money., and it’s like old Amschel said, he “didn’t give a damn who runs the country, as long as he gets do their banking for them”
Now that we know how the wolrd got into this mess, we come to the SIMPLE SOLUTION:
If International Central Fiat banking system loaning money which is produced out of thin air is the PROBLEM…then the SOLUTION is to get rid of Central banking systems and let individual governments control their own money….just look at the mess the Euro has made in Europe in such a short time…….and America is now heading in that direction with the Amero concept..
As long as any sovereign nation ( including America) permits International private bankers to print and control the money supplies of that nation, the citizens of those nations will always be indebted to “the man behind the curtain” who holds the ultimate power……the final words we should remember are, “there’s more of us, than there are of them”.
We can always go back to barter….its a complicated way of doing business, but it sure cuts out the middle man.
CW ….
Would you please take my last post of out of Moderation…….
There are no dirty words in the posting….no reason to moderate the post…thanks.
Video: Hitler Learns About The Obamacare Exchanges…
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/18/video-hitler-learns-about-the-obamacare-exchanges/
Interested Bystander | October 18, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
I’m thinking about changing my avatar.
Any suggestions?
Keep in mind I REALLY like my avatar.
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Hi IB,
I always read your comments!!
As far as your avator is concerned, in the words of the “chief”, “If you like your.________ you can keep your ________” Sound familiar? 🙂
In all seriousness, I like to read what you have to say and miss you when you’re not around.
CITIZENWELLS….
You still have my comment in moderation…is there a problem?
If not, please release it…..thanks
Observer | October 18, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
Video: Hitler Learns About The Obamacare Exchanges…
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Observer, very cleverly done video!
When “Hitler” says, “How can I be out of money when I still have checks left?” reminds me of a true story told by my grandmother.
At the turn of the twentieth century she was a practicing RN who worked for a very famous N.Y. nerve specialist, whose wife, lacking in desirable brain matter, is said to have replied when told that her bank account was in overdraft status, “I will have to write a check to cover it.” She couldn’t understand why that wouldn’t work, and she was not talking about drawing on another account but rather the overdrawn one.
So, I guess there have always been stupid people among us.
NOW EVERYBODY KNOWS
“Despite the widespread belief that the administration was not ready for the health law’s October 1 launch, top officials and lead IT contractors looked us in the eye and assured us all systems were a go,” Chairman Fred Upton, R-Mich., said in a written statement.
He said the technical problems have reached “epidemic proportions” and the American people “deserve to know what caused this mess.”
Much of the scrutiny has focused on the company that received the bulk of the taxpayer money to help create the website — CGI Federal, a U.S. subsidiary of Canadian firm CGI Group. According to the company’s own announcement, it secured a contract in late 2011 worth a total of $93.7 million, with the base value at $55.7 million.
Reports have ranged widely over how much money has ultimately been spent on the flawed site, via CGI and other contractors. Reuters reported on Thursday that the potential total value for CGI’s work has tripled, to nearly $292 million.
The House panel also wrote to the head of Quality Software Services, Inc., another contractor involved in the launch.
According to a Government Accountability Office report in June, Qualify Software Services received about $55 million for “related activities” on the ObamaCare exchanges. All told, the GAO reports that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services doled out $394 million between fiscal 2010 and March of this year to dozens of contractors to set up the health care “exchanges” and perform other related work.
Reuters reported Thursday that the CGI deal in 2011 grew out of a 2007 contract. A string of additional multi-million-dollar payments were approved this year; the company reportedly has been paid nearly $200 million to date, with the potential value of the contract reaching $292 million.
This leaves one to wonder ; What was Sebelius’s cut on these deals?
let me try a repost….
The major problem facing the whole world today is a simple problem…with a simple fix.
First to the PROBLEM: The problem is that every sovereign country in the world today is operation on a DEBT economy…that means that they must always be BORROW money to run their government and economy.
Any serious student of history knows this as a fact. Our history books tell us that in the 1800′s when Europe was being raped by Napoleon, Nathan Rothschild, of the Rothschild banking family, was sitting in London making loans to both side of that war….to England and her allies,,,and to France and her allies….it made no difference who won or lost, the Rothschilds banking cartel would profit from the wasted effort….. and their empire grew.
That same bunch of “con artist” then looked to America , who has just won her Independence from England and saw another ripe plum to pick. The were at fist successful until Old Hickory came along. When Andy Jackson saw the con game that the Central Banking system was pulling on the new nation struggling with all this borrowing and fiat (loaning make believe money) banking, Jackson vowed “by the eternal God, he would drive them out”…and he did…. In return, the cartel sent an
killer to take old Andy out. Luckily, both barrels of two flintlocks misfired that had been placed up to Andy’s chest….the Andy beat the hell out of him with that hickory stick he carried around….The attempt to kill him failed and Jackson put this nation a back on a ZERO debt…..We owed nothing to no body…and we prospered and expanded on our own…
This prosperity did not last though., along came 1913 and a weak liberal president let the Central International banking cabal caught out democrat Congress and weak president at a weak moment and vote into law the Federal Reserve and the IRS to enforce that law.
England’s war with Germany (WWI) was going badly and had drained the money reserves of all participating nation badly……of course the banking family of Rothschild was supporting both sides of this conflict too and really didn’t give a damn who won or lost….they would have their pound of flesh either way…..so with America now on a Central banking system and the Feds and IRS on their side…..tons and tons of new money suddenly appeared in England and France to fund this blood slaughter…in the end, again there were no winners but Germany got stuck with the bill…..and America got sucked into the con game that has now been going on in America for 100 years now.
The rest of the story you know.
Today, our nation is 17.5TRILLION dollars in debt and reaching out with both hand for more money to squander…. to them “DEBT IS PROSPERITY”. and it’s all because of the International DEBT economy that the whole world operates under.
This leads to a final solution question. IF every nation has a DEBT economy, as they do,…then who has all the money? That question is kind of like the monkey chasing his tail…..Well of course the Rothschild International banking cartel has all the money., and it’s like old Amschel said, he “didn’t give a damn who runs the country, as long as he gets do their banking for them”
Now that we know how the world got into this mess, we come to the SIMPLE SOLUTION:
If International Central Fiat banking system loaning money which is produced money out of thin air is the PROBLEM…then the SOLUTION is to get rid of Central banking systems and let individual governments control their own money….just look at the mess the Euro has made in Europe in such a short time…….and America is now heading in that direction with the Amero concept..
As long as any sovereign nation ( including America) permits International private bankers to print and control the money supplies of that nation, the citizens of those nations will always be indebted to “the man behind the curtain ” who holds the ultimate power……the final words we should remember are, “there’s more of us, than there are of them”.
Which beings me to my last comment, we can always go back to barter….its a complicated way of doing business, but it sure cuts out the middle man.
Hello CW….are we on the same channels tonight?
Why is the site still putting my post into “moderation”
I would appreciate you taking it out please….thanks
Don’t know if this has been reported here yet:
Ex-Navy SEAL Drops Bombshell On FOX: Says Government Is CREATING Conditions To Impose Martial Law (Oct 15, 2013 Video Report)
http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2013/10/ex-navy-seal-drops-bombshell-on-fox-says-government-is-creating-conditions-to-impose-martial-law-oct-15-2013-video-report-2457518.html
UPDATE ON COST OF “OBAMACARE”…HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS
How the government spent $634MILLION on the Obamacare website – more than it cost to build Facebook and Twitter – and it STILL doesn’t work
* Price tag is six and a half times higher than original $94million contact
* Contractor CGI Federal built the site and demanded more money from the government as costs soared
* Only a handful of Americans have been able to sign up for the health insurance exchanges on Healthcare.gov
* Site still is issuing error messages when users try to sign in
By Michael Zennie
The Department of Better Technology, a federal contractor that competes with CGI Federal, sheds some insight into why the Healthcare.gov contract might have failed so spectacularly.
‘That cancer is called “procurement” and it’s primarily a culture driven cancer one that tries to mitigate so much risk that it all but ensures it. It’s one that allowed for only a handful of companies like CGI Federal to not only build disasters like this, but to keep building more and more failures without any accountability to the ultimate client: us,’ the company wrote in an op-ed posted on its site.
On top of promoting mediocrity, the federal procurement system also weighs down site developers with 6,500 pages of registration and regulation for contractors.
Those restriction ensure that ‘very few new businesses can compete for contracts, and the ones that do end up becoming specialists in those regulatory burdens, not in doing the right thing,’ the Department of Better Technology says.
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There is only ONE solution to this mega problem,,,,call in the man who invented the INTERNET… and in now the sole owner of the SUN and making MEGA bucks off of selling fake CARBON CREDITS to IDIOT nations…..The Right Honorable Albert Gore…….I bet he has the answer to this problem…for a small price of 10 trillions dollars of course !!!
I hope everyone on here understand this was pun intended at Mr. Gore who PUBLICLY professed on national television to have invented the Internet….REMEMBER?
If it was IDIOTS who put this system together…it will take IDIOTS to fix it….
Good night folks…I’m bombed out…
CW…
if you can, would you please take my comments out of “moderation”…
or am I writing the truth about a subject that is forbidden to be discuss?
Thanks…and like Anne says….”Tomorrow, tomorrow, the sun will come out tomorrow”…..damn, I wish I had her positive outlook on life……
This is a very good article by Pat Buchanan.
THE ‘WE CAN’T WIN’ WIMPS CAUCUS
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We told you you would lose!” wail the beltway bundlers of the Republican establishment.
“We told you you would lose!” moan neoconservative columnists from their privileged perches on the op-ed pages of the beltway press.
“Look at what Ted Cruz and these tea-party people did to us,” wails the GOP establishment. “Look what has happened to our brand.” And 2014 was looking wonderful.
What a basket of wimps.
(snip)
Here was the recommended beltway GOP strategy:
House Republicans should vote to fund Obamacare in a clean CR. Then exploit the disaster of the roll out to show what a horror it is. This will pump up our polls and improve our field position for 2014.
Then we can pick up some seats!
Bottom line: Let’s vote to impose Obamacare on America and make Democrats pay the price of the calamity we voted to impose.
Now there may be a more cynical strategy than deliberately doing permanent damage to your country to help your party.
Right now, I just can’t think of it.
A party that would do such a thing would not only not deserve office; it would raise valid questions about the reasons for its continued existence. If this is how Republicans will behave when facing a decision on moral and political principle, why would conservatives want such a crowd representing them?
The beltway GOP had best step back and take a hard look at the nation they are supposed to defend.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/the-we-cant-win-wimps-caucus/#mvfKL2KeybyXvoQk.99
RMINNC………….
Whenever I look at events in the WHACKY HOUSE, it is like watching a Charlie Chaplin type of COMIC OPERA, with a little Laurel and Hardy thrown in for accent. har har. I am a simple minded person,and live in a simple litle world. That said,if I can see the idiocy of the so called leader then it is my conclusion that simple people like me the world over are seeing the ongoing comic opera at the Whacky house the same as I do. In reality,in reality I have begun calling it the WHACKY HOUSE because I GENUINELY SEE IT AS SUCH. In addition it is where all the rest of the government nut cases congregate.
……When I look at the faces of those who frequent the WHACKY HOUSE, they all appear to be kin to each other. They all have the same blank,and otherwise stupid expression on their faces….both male and female.
RMINNC….
Whenever I see a picture of Msssssssssssss. Sebelius you only need to look at the dumb expression on her face to realise that she is holding a job which she hasn’t the silightest idea how to administer. The same rationale applies to all the rest of the overeducated wordsmiths who now hold offices in which they haven’t the slightest idea what they are doing.
RMinNC, et al.
99 + % of the time when a comment goes into moderation it is due to the anti spam software finding a suspect word or more.
Vermont Supreme Court ruling on H. Brooke Paige appeal on Obama eligibility
Comments soon
Vermont decision: “Appeal is moot”….(because I don’t have the courage to actually follow the law and be subject to harassment by thugs)
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