Markets rise on flawed data, ADP BLS Market Watch reports, Stated unemployment rate, Labor force participation rate, Part time work, Food stamps tell all

Markets rise on flawed data, ADP BLS Market Watch reports, Stated unemployment rate, Labor force participation rate, Part time work, Food stamps tell all

“With a 63.7% labor force participation, “conditions in the labor market are considerably worse than indicated” in July’s report”…economist Joshua Shapiro, WSJ August 3, 2012

“Since the Democrats took control of both houses of congress in January 2007, the number of people who could only find part time work has gone up 215 percent”…Citizen Wells

“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”…George Orwell, “1984″

 

 

I have been reviewing employment data from ADP, BLS and a Market Watch report this morning. The stated unemployment rate, as most of you know, does not factor in the people who have dropped out of the work force and 2.8 percent have dropped out since Obama took office.

It also does not factor in the large increases in people who could only find part time work due to the economy and impact of Obamacare.

The ADP report of private sector jobs added does not match the BLS report. The Market Watch report echoes the BLS report and misrepresents the true unemployment rate:

“The acceleration in hiring nudged the unemployment rate down to 7.5% from 7.6% in March. That’s the lowest level since December 2008, the month before President Obama took office.”

The stock market has responded positively to this unrealistic data, much as it has this year.

I do not know how long the markets can be buoyed on false data, but numbers don’t lie.

20 percent, 1 in 5 Americans are on food stamps.

More details to come.

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63 responses to “Markets rise on flawed data, ADP BLS Market Watch reports, Stated unemployment rate, Labor force participation rate, Part time work, Food stamps tell all

  1. Good morning all.

    RMinNC — From previous (yesterday’s) post– I was visiting at a military base when the news broke of the Bin Laden raid. Rumors were flying. Before everything was squelched, one rumor surfaced at a local talk radio show, which was that the Seals had wrapped Bin Laden’s body in a pig skin. The Israelis do it to suicide bombers and the Russians did it to the Chechen terrorists that killed all those children.

    So, there were all these calls coming into the talk show disapproving, some from obvious Muslims. They were outraged at the disrespect shown to the body–wrapped in a pig skin and fed to the sharks. The talk show soon ended. That was the last I heard of this. The story was then immediately released that a proper Muslim burial was done at sea.

  2. citizenwells

    Good morning Dean M et al.

  3. citizenwells

    “U.S. factory orders down 4.0% in March

    Factory orders fell 4% in March, weaker than expected, the Commerce Department reported Friday. Economists polled by MarketWatch had forecast a 2.8% drop in factory orders. Orders for durable goods were revised to a 5.8% decline from the prior estimate of a 5.7% decrease. New orders for nondurable goods decreased 2.4%. Shipments fell 1.0%, while inventories were flat. Orders for nondefense capital goods excluding aircraft increased 0.9% in the month.”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-factory-orders-down-40-in-march-2013-05-03?dist=lcountdown

    Perceptions of economic improvements have driven the markets.
    Reality must kick in soon.

  4. GOOD MORNING DEAN…ET AL…..

    Reference your above……apparently that tactic works !…Did anyoneon the show happen to mention the DISRESPECT shown to those BEHEADED by the MUSLIMS…I would think that would be just as much a DIS RESPECTABLE act as the pigskin thing…

    No wonder the show ended abruptly ….they don’t want this effective tactic getting out in the public because it WORKS….

    Especially with a DEVOUT RADICAL MUSLIM EXTREMIST……..of course they want their 72 virgins after their preform their DIRTY TRICKS…. perhaps it wouldn’t have the same effect with just a plain old TERRORIST…but who knows?.

    I say DENY them of that (right?) to 72 virgins…end all this needless killing .Pull a Pershing on them.

    p.s. Most of that crap has ended with the Israelis and Russians hasn’t it? Just the dumb old Americans are still playing the game by the Marquis of Queensbury Rules !

  5. RMinNC — Agreed. We should give them a chance to vacate Mecca, then totally obliterate the place. This would be to eliminate one of the pillars of Islam–to make pilgrimate to Mecca and walk around that ugly square box housing their black stone. This woul show their false god for what it is.

    Another rumor: The reason we had no attacks on our soil while Bush was President is precisely that “under the table” he made that very threat, that he would nuke Mecca if any of our cities were threatened in that manner.

  6. (Sorry for more typos than usual, previous post.)

    To continue and tie in with CW’s post today, the reason our economy is so bad is the brains behind Obama’s policies is a Shiite cleric who was put to death by Sadam Husssein, Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr. He combined Marxism and Islam and proposed the “redistribution of wealth.” His writings strongly influenced the Iranian Revolution. They (in my view) form the philosophical underpinings of Obama’s ideology and why he (supposedly jokingly) at the press party said, “I’m not the young, stapling Muslim Socialist I used to be.”

    But it is not a joke. With a Muslim and/or Muslim sympathizer in the White House, the threat to Mecca is off the table. The Muslims have their man, and the Left-wingers have their man in the White House. What a happy family!

  7. DEAN….

    What else should we expect when our current pResident said, “When the winds of politics shift, I will stand with the MUSLIMS”…

    He has openly and publicly told us where he stands on this issue…..and that isn’t with the US of A….more people should have been listening to him..

  8. (More typos, pilgrimage, strapling, etc.) In case you haven’t heard or read this, A MOSQUE IN MUNICH, Nazis, the CIA and The Rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, by Ian Johnson, it is a great place to start in understanding how Muslims have inflitrated our government agencies. They were recruited during the Cold War. Obama, I am sure, was such a one. He was recruited by the CIA and was so recruited because of his Muslim credentials.

    The reason Muslims were recruited is the Soviet threat after WWII. The Nazis had recruited them to fight the Soviets. After the war, the agency that became the CIA took over where the Nazis left off.

    During the war in Afghanistan, we were supporting the Muslim resistance, to include Osama Bin Laden. Barack Obama went to Pakistan during this time–when Bin Laden, himself, was there. We were smuggling arms via Pakistan and Bin Laden to the Afghan rebels.

    All the mystery about Obama, his true identity and birth certificate, is tied into the issue of national security because of his former work with the CIA. I personally believe he is a natural born citizen, that both his parents were American citizens and he was born in Hawaii. The problem is, Obama is not Obama. That is what is being concealed–the identity created for him by the CIA is being protected. Courts and Representatives in Congress have all been told to leave this issue alone in the interest of national security.

    In this manner, the Muslims have been able to use our own system against us, infiltrating our intel agencies and raising a creature of their own to the highest office of the land. Leftwing sympathizers and weaked kneed and/or naive or ignorant Conservatives have helped in this process.

    So, just as the terrorists of 911 were able to take our own planes and use them against us, they are using our system, our own government agencies, against us. It is an ancient Bedouin tactic. They are very patient. They use the enemy’s strengths against him. They infiltrate, kill and destroy. Think of Fort Hood. That guy hasn’t been executed yet. He is being protected by the Commander in Chief. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

  9. DEAN…you say:
    “All the mystery about Obama, his true identity and birth certificate, is tied into the issue of national security because of his former work with the CIA. I personally believe he is a natural born citizen, that both his parents were American citizens and he was born in Hawaii. The problem is, Obama is not Obama. That is what is being concealed–the identity created for him by the CIA is being protected. Courts and Representatives in Congress have helped in this process”
    ————————————————————————————————

    I will agree with you 100% when you say, “the problem is OBAMA isn’t OBAMA….I have said this for 8 years…….but I have a problem with the CIA connection…….

    If the CIA is here to protect us from outside infiltration of harmful agents ….it is counter productive to assume Obama (or whoever he really is) still has the protection of the CIA…..

    The dangers he currently presents to the nation FAR, FAR outweigh the good he may have been before as a teenager (if he ever was an agent)…….

    I find it very hard to accept that a pot-smoking, lazy,shiftless, homosexual of yesterday would stiil be protected by the CIA today….what kind of imaginary secrets would the Central Intelligence Agency trust to such an individua in the first place?

    The problem isn’t the secrets he may have known then (if he ever knew any in the first place), but the secrets he CURRENTLY knows now…..

    THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM..

    We have a foreign agent sitting in a position where he is exposed to all the secret information our nation currently posses, and we really don’t know just how much he has already passes to our enemies………

    It is impossible to assess that without our governmental agencies “coming clean” about his actions…..I don’t see that happening any time soon….

    .I personally think the nation will be shocked when the truth comes out !

  10. RMinNC — We’re coming to a very touchy point. In fact, we’ve passed it. In essence we are saying Obama should be impeaced for numerous violations of the Constitution, if not outright treason. That is why I say our country is still in denial.

    There are rogue elements in the CIA. Obama as President has appointed the directors of the CIA. So to say he does not have the CIA in his back pocket and did not get to the highest office without a powerful network protecting his identity is, in my view, part of the denial we’ve all been party to. It is hard to imagine. We don’t want to believe it.

    The CIA has not had adequate Congressional oversight. The Reps in Congress just want the CIA to do the “dirty work” it is supposed to do and spare them of the details. The CIA has an unlimited budget. Anything can pass under the heading of “national security.” Congress then turns a blind eye to what is being done, giving the CIA a moral blank check as to its methods. It is similar for NSA and other agencies.

    This all violates the checks and balances idea of our Constitution and creates a shadow government. With this, Obama has stepped out of the shadow and is in our face.

  11. MORE ON BENGHAZI:

    On next Wednesday, the House will conduct a one-day hearing on Benghazi in an effort to get at the truth and expose the cover-up this adminstration has done on Benghazi….

    New witnesses will be there, people who have direct information on the matter. This one day hearing could be the starting point for extended hearings and action on Benghazi that is needed.

    Hardball questions need to be ask….and honest answers given. What are some of the questions that need to be asked and answered in this hearing?

    To fully understand the nature of these questions, it is important to understand Benghazi served as a logistics hub for weapons transfers out of Libya and into the hands of anti-Assad terrorists. It is now a known fact that many of these weapons now went into the hands of Al-Quada, supposedly our enemy ( or is it possible they could be our friends in one country, but our enemy in another?).

    Weapons were collected under a buyback program of sorts, to remove them from the hands of the terrorists. Is that what really happened? I think that the truth will show we removed the weapons from Gadaffi and put them in the hands of our enemy. The truth, if we ever get there, will show this to be correct….but getting to that truth will be like pulling teeth from a saber tooth tiger.

    Meanwhile, here are but a few important questions that need to be asked and completely answered at this hearing………:

    * What purposes did the five-(5) Saudi/Qatari-owned warehouses around Benghazi serve? Notice, I said Saudi. I don’t think they held farm tools !
    * What was the disposition of the arms collected in Libya? Where did they go? Were the aforementioned warehouses used for arms storage, and if so, why? Gadaffi’s stockpile of arms appears to have now vanished and no one knows where they went….something fishy here t huh?
    * Exactly who at the U.S. State Department was supervising this arms “buyback” program? Getting someone at the State Department to talk is like playing “musical chairs”…no one wants to be in that position when the music stops.
    * What is the relationship between the U.S. government and the shipping company that brought Ambassador Stevens to Libya, along with CIA assets? Now this is a BIGGY…but no one is talking about this.
    * At any time, were there weapons transferred between boats located about 12 miles offshore of Libya? If so, under what circumstances and conditions? Well, we know they were and we know the Turkish Ambassador is right in the middle, but again, “silence of the lambs”.
    * Were there any violation of international arms agreements committed?Duhhhhhhhhhhh…..Does a bear poopy in the woods? Does a tree make a noise when it falls? Whom ever authorized this weapons transfer committed violations of international law by putting them into the hands of known terrorist…..period.
    * Who would have the authority to do such a thing? Well that’s a no-brainer. It sure wouldn’t have been the Secretary of State, or Defense, or DHS, or any other agency of the government….no no the trail leads directly to the doorstep at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    Finally, it should be said this administration would be well advised to keep in mind the fact that lawyers in a courtroom setting KNOW BETTER THAN TO ASK A QUESTION TO WHICH THEY DON’T ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER.

    Perjury is a very serious thing…..but then again, maybe not for OBAMA..

  12. DEAN….

    I agree with most of what you say at 12:44pm…but my point is how important would a pot smoking, lazy, shiftless..etc young man have been to the CIA in 1994?

    Why would the CIA protect him now just because he may have been a lowly bag boy for them back then?

    You are absolutley correct when you say that he has the CIA in his hip pocket…I agree…but it hasn’t always been that way…..and I also agree that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiilterated almost (correction…change that to read…every) every department in our government….LOOK AT ALL THE SAUDI INFLUENCE AROUND HIM NOW.

    I still find it hard to believe he rose to where he is today because of an obscure CIA connection he may, or may not have had as a teenager….I think Saudi OIL and Saudi MONEY had more to do with his upward movement than anything. You know the old saying, “money talks”……..

    There’s more to this than meets the eye. But your points are well taken!.

  13. Splendid!! Thanks for the worthwhile, stimulating and informative discussion, RMinNC and Dean M. I loved reading your viewpoints as always, but today was very special.

    How about this:

    Unbelievable!! This is like hiring an arsonist for the fire department.

    Newsmax Exclusive: US Hired al-Qaida-Linked Group to Defend Benghazi Mission

    The Libyan militia group that the State Department hired to defend its embattled diplomatic mission in Benghazi had clear al-Qaida sympathies, and had prominently displayed the al-Qaida flag on a Facebook page for some months before the deadly attack.

    That organization, the February 17th Martyrs Brigade, was paid by the U.S. government to provide security at the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya. But there is no indication the Martyrs Brigade fulfilled its commitment to defend the mission on Sept. 11, when it came under attack.

    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/benghazi-consulate-protected-alqaida/2013/05/02/id/502565?s=al&promo_code=135B1-1#ixzz2SFdo1AQ8

  14. CABBYAZ….YOU HAVE PROVEN MY POINT…

    “WE TURNED THE SECURITY OF THE CHICKEN HOUSE OVER TO THE FOX”……

    This is exactly why Obama and Clinton DO NOT want this Benghazi thing to go any further….as Clinton said, “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE NOW”……..well the answer to her question is …..”ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD”…..WE HAVE FOUR DEAD AMERICAN’s that could still be alive now, if action had been taken….but it wasn’t because it would have shed light on the “dirty tricks” they were playing with OPW (Other People’s Weapons)…….

    Both Clinton and Obama are in Deep Doo- Doo because of this, and they know it……….the whole world will know it also before this is over..

    ———————————————————————————————–

    As a footnote:, I have really enjoyed my post here on CW today…It’s always nice when you discuss things with LEARNED PEOPLE …and Dean is one of the best to have a good intelligent conversation with, thanks Dean…….you are in that category also Cabbyaz.

  15. Hi, cabbyaz. I always enjoy your posts, too. Very thoughtful and informative.

    RMinNC. Just my point of view, but I don’t think Obama was as lazy and shiftless as you describe him. That image is just part of the false persona he has wanted to project. If you think he is that kind of person, then you couldn’t imagine him being a CIA op, right?

    I see Obama as a man with a mission. He is a dedicated Shiite practicing taqiyya–deception–for the greater glory of Islam. His sympathies lie with Iran and always have. He surrounds himself with people who are also sympathetic to Iran. He seems motivated by the teachings of Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr.

    Before he began his bid for the Presidency, he went to the Dearborn Mosque and had a private meeting with Hasan al-Qazwini, the imam there. It is the largest mosque in the US and is Shiite. Al-Qazwini gave him a copy of his book, AMERICAN CRESCENT. But their discussions and meetings were private–no press allowed. Louis Farrakhan has been an honored guest there as well as at Obama’s Trinity Church pastored by the former Black Muslim, Jeremiah Wright.

    When Obama was elected, people in Tehran danced in the streets calling him “brother.” “O Ba Ma” in Farsee means “He is with us.” One of their prophecies mentions the coming of a Western Leader, a tall black man, who will assist in the coming of the Mahdi, the 12th Imam. Many Shiites see Obama as the fulfillment of that prophecy. (Does he see himself that way?)

    The CIA was recruiting Muslims during the Cold War. They ignorantly thought that because Muslims believed in God, we could form a healthy alliance with them against “godless Communisim.” This also prompted expanision of the oil industry into the Near East.

    Obama as a young college student was a part of the Muslim recruitment. He probably did some important work in a minor position. They sent him to Harvard and then he became attached to BIC–a leftwing cover agency for the CIA (Business International Corporation).

    Leftwing people have been drawn to government service as they see it as a means to further their leftwing schemes. That includes the intelligence agencies. Anyway, as sketchy as this is, it kind of outlines how I see Obama in context.

  16. RM,
    Hasn’t it been wonderful?? ( I mean the atmosphere) Thanks for the kind words, too. I fully agree about Dean and the same for you, too.

    Intelligent discussions are what we love here, because they challenge our thinking and widen our horizons, all because we are within arms reach of some of the best and brightest in their fields. It’s called “communication” – real, worthy communication.

    Yes, I pray that the truth will come out about Benghazi and that no one gives up until we get it! Let heads roll. A few? indictments wouldn’t be bad either. Somehow a certain VIP always seems to float above the fray, nose in the air, spring in his step……Someday here or in the hereafter he WILL be exposed. I hope it is sooner rather than later.

  17. Dean….

    in your last post, you made a few points I was not aware of…..the Dearborn MI thing….I was aware of his preference in Iran…and the effect that his election had on the people there……

    He is still is a mystery wrapped up in an enigma……but like cabbyaz said…sooner or later he will be exposed…sooner rather than later, I hope.

    Have to run for now….wifey has some “honey do’s” in mind….I will be back on for a while tonight…

    I have really enjoyed our discussion today….it has been very stimulating and very interesting…..you have a good day now, my friend……..and you too cabbyaz!

  18. Mr. Bill(ms. helga)

    RMinNC | May 3, 2013 at 3:31 pm |
    Dean….

    He is still is a mystery wrapped up in an enigma……but like cabbyaz
    ______________________________________________

    You have 2/3 of my all time favorite quotes of Winston Churchill, when describing Russia – ” is a mystery wrapped up in an enigma, inside a riddle”.

    My theory was he got the idea from the famous Matryoshka dolls.

    https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_rn=12&gs_ri=psy-ab&gs_mss=Russian%20dolls%20withi&tok=vs76fIesGi5PuTeoPymfpA&cp=25&gs_id=2s&xhr=t&q=Russian%20dolls%20within%20dolls&es_nrs=true&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Russian+dolls+within+doll&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45960087,d.eWU&fp=17688d0f9338832b&biw=1120&bih=616

  19. RMinNC & cabbyaz — Thank you both, too, for your thoughtful insights and comments. By the way, World Net Daily has published an article today on Iran and its rigged election in 2009. They have proof it was rigged. Remember all the protesting in the streets and the government cracking down without a word from Obama?

  20. One last thing before–like RMinNC– I have to take off for the day The possible Iranian connection to Benghazi has mostly been overlooked. One article that came out 2 days after the attack touches on this. It relates to blacklisted Iranian ships coming into Benghazi

    http://www.forbes.com/site/claudiarosett/2012/09/13/about-those-blacklisted-iranian-ships-calling-at-libyan-ports/2/

    My feeling is Stevens was carrying out Clinton’s policy of supporting the Syrian rebels with arms, etc. But the Syrian Assad regime is backed by Iran. Clinton was out of touch with her boss’s aims. It was okay for Qadhafi and Mubarak to go, but not Assad. So the protection for Stevens was withdrawn, possibly also to make a swap for a captured Ambassador Stevens for the Blind Sheik (Western Journalism article). Problem was the former Navy Seals stepped in went beyond the call of duty. They were told to stand down, but they wouldn’t. Stevens was supposed to be easily captured. When the Seals put up a fight, the terrorists got angry and everything went up in smoke.

    Mrs. Clinton’s “What does it matter?” was a cry of desperation because Ambassador Stevens was a personal favorite of hers. She, herself, hasn’t figured out what happened. Part of her knows, but it is too awful to comtemplate. She is in denial, too.

  21. It looks like that Forbes site mentioned above may have been scrubbed. I don’t have time to look.

  22. DEAN at 5:13 pm……..

    B I N G O…….I think you have done your homework on this one Dean…….
    and Clinton may have taken it as a betrayal to her personally because help wasn’t sent to get her boy Stevens out of there…

    Nevertheless, she is guilty because she had TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE GUN RUNNING OPERATION…I think she eventually figured it out…like “a day late and a dollar short”.

    Kinda makes you wonder just what John Brennan’s place is in all this mess doesn’t it? I suspect he was up to his eyeballs right along with Obama on Benghazi…..Brennan has always been Obama’s cover…ever since he scrubbed every known record Obama had…..but that too will come out.

    THE SWAP FOR THE BLIND SHEIK IS THE KEY to Benghazi !!!

  23. Your link didn’t work, but this one did.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/claudiarosett/2012/09/13/about-those-blacklisted-iranian-ships-calling-at-libyan-ports/
    It appears to be the exact same link.

    I yahoo-ed the link and was able to access it that way. Go figure.

  24. IRS Decides Obamacare Is Too Small; Unilaterally Expands It

    If the report is at all accurate, this action is more dangerous than even the

    Affordable Care Act itself. We have here an agency of the government acting as an independent legislature.
    That can’t be healthy.

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/10654/irs-decides-obamacare-is-too-small-unilaterally-expands-it/#ixzz2SGUChqbT

  25. RMinNC | May 3, 2013 at 5:27 pm |
    Kinda makes you wonder just what John Brennan’s place is in all this mess doesn’t it? I suspect he was up to his eyeballs right along with Obama on Benghazi…..Brennan has always been Obama’s cover…
    **************************
    Yeah, and we know exactly where Brennan stands. He really appreciates the beauty of Islam, and it has been said by knowledgeable sources that he converted to it sometime while he served in Saudi Arabia. What a convoluted, dangerous mess!

  26. This has got to be the epitome of hypocrisy! What about Fast and Furious, Mr. pResident?

    Obama Blames U.S. For Gun Violence In Mexico

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/03/obama_blames_us_for_gun_violence_in_mexico_pushes_for_gun_control.html

  27. Published on May 3, 2013

    At YouTube:

    “Part 1: Team Arpaio: Obama Investigator: Assisting AL Supreme Court Case; Criminal Case Pending”

  28. At YouTube:

    “Part 2: Sheriff Joe Obama Investigator Exposes Paid Obama Operative Disinfo Campaign”

  29. “Carl Gallups on BILL MARTINEZ LIVE (Syndicated) “Outing” a U.S. Congressman”

    Published on May 3, 2013

    Part 1

  30. “Carl Gallups on BILL MARTINEZ LIVE – New American Revolution On The Way?”

    Part 2

  31. oldsailor80

    Well this hard nosed illiterate horse’s ass which I have been referred to by one or two on this blog,is here to say that I do not give a damn what the enemy is ,who he is, what he does,what he thinks, or anything else about the bastard. I only know that he will do everything he can to ram his BULLSHI# down my throat,and the throats of millions of other Americans. If the rest of the people in America are willing to sit and allow this to occur then they deserve to receive one hell of an overdose of the ISLAMIC SHI#,which is all it is,and all it will ever be. As I said I do not give a damn if Soetoro smoked pot,or whatever else he has done. All I know is that he IS A BASTARD who is hell bent on FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING THE VALUES WHICH I BELIEVE IN,AND GREW UP BELIEVING IN. I ALREADY KNOW WHAT SOETORO IS ,WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO. TO SPLIT HAIRS ABOUT HIS PAST IS NOT MY CUP OF TEA, AND YOU CAN REST ASSURRED THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN THE VALUES WHICH MADE OUR COUNTRY GREAT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS STUFF WHICH IS ONLY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL EVENTUALLY SIT IN JUDGEMENT OF THE CRIMINAL BASTARD. WHEN I REFER TO “SIT IN JUDGEMENT” I AM REFERRING TO A COUPLE OF ENTITIES, THE FIRST BEING THE EVENTUAL NUERENBURG TYPE OF PROSECUTION OF all OF THE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT OUR GOVERNMENT WHO HAVE ACTED TO EITHER PROTECT THE CRIMINAL DEVIATE,AND/OR TO OTHERWISE SUPPORT HIM, AND THE SECOND JUDGEMENT WILL BE CARRIED OUT BY OUR LORD. NO HUMAN ON EARTH ESCAPES THIS JUDGEMENT,NOT EVEN SOETORO. WITH REGARD TO MSSSSSSSS. CLINTON, I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HER PAST TO KNOW THAT SHE IS NOT NOW ,AND IN ALL PROBABILITY NEVER WILL BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A DIRTY,MENTALLY TWISTED, PROGRESSIVE AGENT WHO WILL DIE DOING HER DIRT TO OTHERS. HER ILLUSTRIOUS HISTORY IS NOT EXACTLY SAVORY. IT IS A REALLY SAD COMMENTARY WHEN I HEAR THE SNOTNOSED OVEREDUCATED WORDSMITHS TRY TO MAKE HER OUT TO BE MSSSSSS.GOD. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN THE TRUTH IS KNOWN ABOUT BENGHAZI IT WILL BE MSSSSSSS. IMPORTANT WHO WILL BE STANDING SQUARELY IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. JUST MY VIEWPOINT….NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE.

  32. oldsailor80

    Gordo…………
    Judging from the spaces between your comments there was supposed to be a video supporting the comment. It would appear that either they didn’t post, or they were deliberately scrubbed. Just wondering!

  33. oldsailor80

    Gordo……….
    Obviously I didn’t wait long enough the videos are all there now. So much for too quick of a reaction!

  34. oldsailor80

    BYE,BYE ALL, TIME FOR ME TO TAKE CARE OF IMPORTANT BUSINESS! GOD BLESS!

  35. Gordo,

    Thank you for keeping it front and center as to why most of us came here to begin with. You always post the most informative information about the eligibility issue. I applaud you.

  36. May 3, 2013

    “Gallups On Outing Congressman For Evading Obama’s Identity Fraud; Email Released”

    “CARL GALLUPS REDACTED EMAIL EXCHANGE VIA PPSIMMONS:”
    ———-
    “Following is the redacted email chain. The Congressman, his Chief of Staff, and his booking secretary have had their names removed for the purposes of this article. Gallups states that it is his intention to soon release the names of all of them. This email chain is provided here so that the reader may observe that the Congressman’s office was fully aware of the meeting and the planned attendance of Gallups and Zullo.”

    http://www.ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/05/exclusive-ppsimmons-prepares-to-out.html
    ———-
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/05/audio-gallups-on-outing-congressman-for.html

  37. I am listening and reading too, Gordo. Thanks!

  38. This article is another heart rendering one about out national sin.

    EVEN ABORTION INDUSTRY INSIDERS ‘FREAKED OUT’ BY GOSNELL
    Murder trial puts ‘brutality’ of ‘choice’ in front of unwilling Americans

    (quote)
    And Pavone wrote in the Washington Times that the procedure of abortion not only kills the unborn, but also the abortionist.

    Pavone wrote:
    “David Brewer, a former abortionist, tells his story: ‘I can remember that day watching the first abortion . I saw a little tiny head, and I saw a piece of a leg, and I saw a tiny hand, and I saw an arm. You know, it was like somebody put a hot poker into me . I had a conscience and that hurt. That was a very hard experience for me to go through, emotionally. So I did what a lot of us do throughout our life, we don’t do anything. I didn’t talk with anybody about it. and do you know what happened? I got to see another abortion. You know what? That one hurt, too. But I kept seeing abortions, and it hurt a little bit less every time I saw one. Do you know what happened next? I got to sit down and do one . The first one that I did was kind of hard. It was like hurting again like a hot poker. But after a while, it got to where it didn’t hurt’ (Testimony at ‘Meet the Abortion Providers’ conference in Chicago).

    “So yes, I am not at all surprised that Dr. Gosnell is cool, calm and collected, smiling even as he listens to those accusing him of murder. Abortion destroys the abortionists themselves.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/even-abortion-industry-insiders-freaked-out-by-gosnell/#cC856Cfd640VLydK.99

  39. Sorry – “out” should be “our”

  40. oldsailor80

    How many millions of abortions are done each year simply because our alleged society has deteriorated to such a point that NOBODY gives a damn about how many infants are MURDERED by people like Gosnell. He is only a BY PRODUCT of society’s sick,and twisted behavior. How many younger females no longer even care how many babies they abort just so long as they can have as much sex as possible. When society believes the only thing which is important is how many times each week it can indulge in their sick,and twisted sexual behavior,they have began their descent into the suburbs of a hellish life on earth. The number of abortions which are done each year just in the US tells the story on our fast deteriorating morality. Moral intent ,and religion are LOSING GROUND to the filthy,drug enshrouded underworld values which are becoming more and more IMPORTANT to a very large portion of Americans. This deterioration is also a LARGE PART OF THE REASON why we now have a CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT…….it is supported by people who have abandoned moral principles. What these people fail to realise is that it is their OWN BEHAVIOR which is PRODUCING the largest portion of the PROBLEMS that they WHINE ,and MOAN about. As long as people CONTINUE to abandon moral principles our society will CONTINUE to deteriorate, and the abortion rate will CONTINUE to climb. I say to those people “SWIM ABOUT,and enjoy the STINKING, slime filled SEA of your own making.”

  41. oldsailor80

    According to the testimony of others who worked at the clinic they ALL at one point or another assisted Gosnell in murdering LIVE babies. Gosnell took special pride in watching the baby writhe after it’s spinal cord was severed. There is NO ADJECTIVE which will accurately describe him. He is a SICK,and otherwise mentally twisted, piece of human garbage, who is deservant of a ONE WAY visit to the nearest LIVE OAK TREE, or a .45 calibre hole between his eyes. Then we all can take special pride in watching him fall to the ground.

  42. oldsailor80

    The alternate just desert for Gosnell would be a visit to the GENERAL POPULATION of the prison in which he is placed. The GENERAL POPULATION took care of Dahmer,and in all probability would take care of Gosnell as well.

  43. oldsailor80

    I have no argument against the abortion of a fetus, just so long as it becomes necessary to save the life of the mother, but it would be even a greater accomplishment if BOTH were saved.

  44. oldsailor80

    BYE BYE ALL……..God Bless!

  45. THIS IS MY KIND OF WOMAN !!! JEANIE FOR PRESIDENT !!!

  46. OldSailor,

    I just sent you an email.

  47. And good morning CW et al.,

    Good morning RMinNC

  48. citizenwells

    Good morning William, et al.

  49. Citizenwell,
    Good morning. Just want to thank those that continue make this site happen, including the loyal posters. Feeling a little ‘down and disoriented’ as the new America is very difficult for someone raised with old values to adjust to.

    Pete

  50. Thanks for posting Judge Pirro’s video. I haven’t been watching Fox but I like her very much.

  51. Good Morning William, Old Sailor, CW, et al…..

    and a TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU….from this old Irishman here in North Carolina…I have just had my TWO cups of coffee with St. Brendan’s Irish Cream (if you know what I mean)…and I’m ready to face this crappy world….thansks to my friends here, I think I will survive…well hopeful I will !
    It sure is a great way to start a day!Old St. Brendan and I have become good buddies….

    I ran across this video today…it’s interesting.

    If you wanted to keep a secret, how would you do it?

    Well apparently the best way is to put it out in the open fpr everyone too see……

    is your life worth 15 minutes ?…..

    ..if so, watch this and you will understand why we are in the shape we are today…no borders, ….no economy, ……America fighting everyone else’s wars..etc…

    What can be done about this? Well sooner or later, my inner gut says that sooner or later, there is going to be one hell of a fight…and like it or not, you, I, and everyone else will be a part of it………

    SO THE BIG QUESTION IS: ARE WE ANY BETTER OFF UNDER THE NEW WORLD ORDER….OR ARE THINGS STILL AS SCREWED UP AS EVER?

    Well the answer is….things are just as screwed up as ever…..except the United States of America is coming out on the short end of the stick….Why?

    1, We have NO Borders to protect our country any more.
    2. We have sent all out manufacturing facilities overseas.
    3. We are fighting every other nations wars for them.
    4. Our economy is a national joke.
    5. Our pResident is apologizing to every nation for things he thinks is America’s fault…even though he knows better.
    6. Islam is taking over the US government, and the citizens appear to be helpless to act against this
    7. The UN is assuming more and more. responsibility for screwing up things around the world.

    8. And finally, the United States has an IDIOT for pResident that does,nt even have a valid birth certificate……

    What a f**ked up world we are living in…This New World Order SUCKS…..

  52. p.s.

    Just the opinion of an old soldier who has been there and done that…..

  53. p.p.s.

    reference # 8…..the joke isn’t on him..(that alien)…it’s on US.

  54. JUDI MCLEOD of the Canada Free Press is a great writer…and she always hits the nail on the head when it comes to OBAMA….THANKS JUDI !!!

    Well worth reading !

    Legions of American soldiers must have turned in their graves when the President of the Unites States of America made a mockery of their sacrifice by throwing in with Mexico yesterday.

    Speaking to a captive audience of young minds made up of mostly high school and college students—his trademark age group home and abroad—Obama delivered his address at the iconic National Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City.

    In his arrogance, ‘El Obamabore’ tried to supplant Davey Crockett, James Bowie and William B. Travis as chief American hero in the minds of today’s Mexican Youth. There is no hero in American history unless his initial is ‘O’. That’s Obama’s prevailing spin…. and he’s sticking to it.

    Patriots in all countries are the same in putting country first and any patriots in the Mexico crowd would ponder how patriotic a president who puts his own country down.

    Obama must have forgotten that young Mexican students would have read about Fast & Furious, which saw American guns transferred into the hands of the drug cartels with the full knowledge—and backing—by the Obama administration.

    “Meanwhile, we’ll keep increasing the pressure on the gun traffickers who bring illegal guns into Mexico, and we’ll keep putting these criminals where they belong—behind bars”, Obama said. (what a joke)

    Tough words now that the “caballo” is already out of the “granero”.

    In his version of Simón-Bolívar-come-back-to-life, Obama has no skin in the game, and never did. There was no bloodshed marking this newly minted battle like there was in America’s long fight against Mexico of the historical past. A good thing Obama didn’t have a weapon-bearing prop along with his Teleprompter because worldwide web pictures already prove self-described skeet shooters can’t even handle their weapons properly.

    And as no one was there to remind Mexico’s youth that Obama has been president of the USA, lo these past four and a half years, the youngsters were up against it hearing a diatribe which painted an America always at fault by its own president.

    If ‘El Obamabore’ were the CEO in the private sector, he would have been immediately fired for disloyalty and for spreading hyperbole; shown the door by security guards if he dared return to his desk.

    But in the Hollywood world in which the White House and D.C. now thrive, you can say anything you want—even “God Bless” Planned Parenthood—and appoint a consultant to the Pentagon to develop new policies on religious tolerance, including a policy for court martialing, case-by-case military chaplains who share the Christian gospel during spiritual counseling of American troops. In other words, redefine “evangelizing” as “proselytizing”, compare it to rape or Planned Parenthood—and get away with it.

    No matter how the mainstream media reported on the National Museum of Anthropology address, not every student shouted “Ole!” being taken down the “rhubarb path” by a crass politician pretending to be on their country’s side.

    “How nice that he came to give inspiring speeches, but what’s happening in Mexico is far from what he talked about today,” said Jose Carlos Cruiz, a 24-year-old graduate student in international relations who attended the speech. “A really good speech by President Obama, but what Mexico was he talking about?” (LA Times, May 3, 2013).

    “Obama is fantastic, but I believe that today he was talking about another country, not ours,” said Rosa Castro, 43, a college professor. “My question is: Who wrote Obama’s speech? Enrique Pena Nieto’s team?”

    Meanwhile Mexico’s high school and college students think for themselves and some of them will surely identify that” girly-looking guy” on the baseball mound as ‘El Obamabore The Hypocrite’.
    ——————————————————————————————-
    JUDI for President!!!
    Well if a Kenyan half-and- half can be President, why not a Canadian Conservative Female” (just kidding)

  55. Free Speech

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/04/names-of-3-whistleblowers-set-to-testify-on-benghazi-revealed/

    Fox News on Saturday named three whistleblowers slated to testify during next week’s new congressional hearing on Benghazi, Libya.

    Reporter Chad Pergram tweeted their names: Gregory Hicks, deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya at the time of the September assault; Mark Thompson, former Marine and deputy coordinator for operations at the State Department’s Counterterrorism Bureau; and Eric Nordstrom, the former top security officer in Libya.

    Nordstrom previously testified before the House Oversight Committee in October, when he said his superiors opposed his efforts to build up security in Benghazi prior to the attack. Hicks and Thompson have not spoken publicly.

    “This administration has offered the American people only a carefully selected and sanitized version of events from before, during, and after the Benghazi terrorist attacks” House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said in a statement announcing Wednesday’s hearing. “Not surprisingly, this version of events casts senior officials in the most favorable light possible.”

    “Last October, the Oversight Committee exposed State Department denials of security requests made by our diplomats in Libya and forced the Obama administration to concede that there never was a protest of a YouTube video,” the statement said. “Next week’s hearing will expose new facts and details that the Obama administration has tried to suppress.”

    Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) last week promised “explosive” Benghazi hearings were coming and said, “direct testimony by eyewitnesses is always the most compelling.”

  56. test

  57. Good video RMinNC

    Bush SR. was an evil man. And to think……….I voted for him.

  58. Yea….me too…just goes to prove that you can’t tell a book by it’s cover……

  59. I’ll try it one more time.

  60. oldsailor80

    RMINNC………..Re 10:02AM
    You are right on the money,but there is a controlling factor as well. ALL of the problems we are experiencing are the result of the obvious continual deterioration of our alleged National Intelligence Quotient. It has deteriorated to a level equivalent with MORONS. Today we see college grads who can’t even pass 8th grade SAT tests. I hasten to add that this is NOT ALL of our young people are swimming about in this stinking pool of idiocy. Some are upstanding youngsters now, but eventually everything that they have achieved will have been for naught. Unfortunately the achievers are slowly disappearing, and the UNDER achievers are becoming prevalent. You only need to listen in on some of the conversations of nearby young people. Many of them seem to have only two word vocabularies. (F— THIS)( F—THAT). (HI DUDE), WOW, COOL MAN. I guess drug fogged minds do not function very well.

  61. Celebrity Announces He’s Turned from Gay to Straight ‘to Know the True History of the Bible’

    Antoine Dodson, who became an Internet sensation after being interviewed by a local news station, has decided to renounce his homosexuality.

    In a statement posted Thursday, on his Facebook page, Dodson, 26, wrote:

    “I’m no longer into homosexuality I want a wife and family, I want to multiply and raise and love my family that I create/” “I could care less about the fame and fortune, I’ve giving all that up to know the true history of the bible.”

    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/dan-joseph/celebrity-announces-hes-turned-gay-straight-know-true-history-bible

    Something tells me he’s not going to get a personal call from Obama, or receive any praise at his next press conference.

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