Sean Hannity questions Obama birth certificate, Hannity radio show, Major Cook deployment orders changes, LTC Terry Lakin court martial
From the Sean Hannity Radio Show December 8, 2009.
Hannity states:
“What was so wrong in saying that can we see your birth certificate?”
“No no no that’s not true. We were told early on that in fact somebody else had looked at it and confirmed that it was legitimate.”
“So, I mean, what was wrong with people saying wait a minute you know in light of the fact where your father came from etc, uh, let’s just make sure this is a legitimate birth certificate. What was so wrong with raising that question?
“It was not asked by the mainstream media. It was asked by places like World Net Daily who I think were just doing due diligence considering it is a constitutional mandate.”
“I think a lot of people were just afraid to ask the question.”
Major Stefan Cook questioned Obama’s eligibility and his orders to deploy were changed.
LTC Terry Lakin is being court martialed for obeying his oath to defend the US Constitution and refuse illegal orders, those coming down the chain of command from the usurper, the illegal occupant of the White House and illegal Commander in Chief, Obama.
Support LTC Terry Lakin, the patriot.
Citizen WElls 
Kiltie,
With all due respect, you are totally misinterpretating the significance of kagan’s recusal from her temporary job on SCOTUS. As you pointed out, kagan has been forced to recuse herself from hearing cases involving bo’s ineligibility, however, this is a good thing for Patriots and a very bad thing for bo. Contrary to your conclusion, bo has, at best, only 3 votes for him on the eligibility issue. Frankly, I am not so sure that even Ginsberg will side with bo on the eligibility issue. I would not at all be surprised to see a 6 to 2 SCOTUS ruling against bo on the eligibility issue.
http://www.jdjournal.com/2010/09/11/supreme-court-justice-elena-kagan-to-recuse-herself-from-11-more-cases/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+JdJournal+%28JD+Journal%29
Okay I really gone for football and beer (CitizenWells is too busy).
On my way to watch football and have a beer(s). The following link shows clearly the difference between Beck’s rally and the Communist rally.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/10/animated-gif-compare-and-contrast-crowd.html
Here is my final theory and I am sticking with it –
Give this some thought.
Why are no Republican conservative talk show hosts mentioning the eligibility issue and in fact going along with the liberals in accusing us of being “nutcases” and “Birthers”? Read the following –
Thursday, March 13, 2008 (Notice the date)
SPECIAL ‘CLOSED SESSION’ OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSSED A LOT MORE THAN THE PENDING SECURITY SURVEILLANCE PROVISIONS!
This was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed its doors to the public. What was it that they were discussing that they do NOT
want us to know about?
I believe the most important discussion had to do with the eligibility of BOTH CANDIDATES. Both parties had questionable areas and time was of essence. BOTH PARTIES ARE IN THIS UP TO THEIR EYEBALLS.
continued ..
1. the imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008,
2. the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009,
3. the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse,
4. advance round-ups of ‘insurgent U.S. citizens’ likely to move against the government,
5. the detention of those rounded-up at ‘REX 84′ camps *(see Below) constructed throughout the USA,
6. the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses,
7. the location of ‘safe facilities’ for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest,
8. the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool),
9. the issuance of a new currency – THE AMERO (do a Google search) – for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic Armageddon.
READ #7 – LIKE RATS ON A SINKING SHIP
Educate yourself
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/mediablackoutclosedsessioncongress20may08.shtml
WOW! I got all spun up for a minute. I thought this was new and that dam was finally cracking.
But I see this is a year old! I was not aware that any discussion of this topic on the Broadcast Airwaves had ever been this specific. WHATEVER HAPPENED? Why didn’t that discussion and dialog grow and mature from there? That was the perfect wedge opening.
Just astounding.
I posted all of this last July, but I am reposting it now because it seems timely and is still dealing with the issues we continue to discuss:
Sunday, July 25, 2010
The November Candidates and the Tea Party People are Avoiding the Solution
The candidates and Tea Party groups are treating the symptoms instead of the cancer.
Don’t misunderstand me. I am not against the hopeful candidates or the Tea Party groups. I think they are wonderful. They have shown America what can happen when “we the people” unite for single purposes. They have marched and gathered with dignity, acted with integrity, objectivity, and focus—focus upon issues and policies and not race, gender, or religion. They have been so careful to clean up after themselves not one piece of trash has been found on the sites where gathered. All people regardless of race or religion are welcome. The way they protest should bring pride to every patriot’s heart. Sadly it has all been an exercise in futility.
This regime has refused to hear them in spite of the millions of letters, faxes, phone calls, “pink slips”, bill boards, and hand carried signs by the millions who rallied in Washington and everywhere. Not one of the issues they have protested have been prevented from being passed into law by this current administration. Right after the first impromptu tea party gathering way back in 2009, I saw a great opportunity to resolve America’s mistake. I wrote several commentaries about the best direction for the Tea Party groups to take. Of course, they were so full of themselves they totally ignored me when I suggested they focus only upon one issue—Obama’s proof of eligibility.
They refused to recognize that focusing upon Obama’s policies instead of Obama’s legitimacy is the same as focusing upon cancer symptoms while ignoring the cancer. By ignoring the root cause of the problem—a usurpation of the presidency—they inadvertently became complicit in Obama’s fraud. They tacitly agreed Obama is a legitimate president. Focusing upon his policies—health care, economic job stimulation, the financial reform, his foreign policies, and more, more more, failed to stop one of these destructive issues from becoming active in American law, today.
The most common reason I heard Tea Party groups, Ron Paul, elected officials and now hopeful candidates refused to directly confront the issue of Obama’s failure to prove he is eligible under our constitution to be president is they feared they would be ridiculed and lose credibility! Ha! Look at what this regime is calling the Tea Party groups and any one who disagrees or challenges them today—everything from “astral turfers to Nazi’s to racists! Imagine that! Out of fear of ridicule they avoided the real issue and became complicit in the greatest fraud America has ever faced in here entire history.
The Tea Party groups were our greatest hope in over coming lame stream media’s great silence about Obama’s birth place. Here is why the most important effort all concerned love America patriots must make is to continue putting the pressure any and everywhere it can to expose Obama for the criminal usurper he is:
Everything that has passed into law from the day he entered the white house is ILLEGAL AND CAN BE REPEALED, REVOKED, VOIDED, NULLIFIED AND REMOVED.
We don’t need to debate, argue, enlighten, beg, plead all the reasons why the laws passed since Obama became president are un American and destructive to our country. We simply need to force Obama to prove he is not a fraud or step down. Why waste time, money, energy, and logic on anything else. This is why
The following is from an article (Obama Must Stand Up Now or Step Down) written by Dr. Edwin Vieira, who has at least four doctorates in Constitutional law. Can it be more clear?
First, if Obama is not “a natural born Citizen” or has renounced such citizenship, he is simply not eligible for “the Office of President” (Article II, Section 1, Clause 4). That being so, he cannot be “elected” by the voters, by the Electoral College, or by the House of Representatives (see Amendment XII). For neither the voters, nor the Electors, nor Members of the House can change the constitutional requirement, even by unanimous vote inter sese (see Article V). If, nonetheless, the voters, the Electors, or the Members of the House purport to “elect” Obama, he will be nothing but an usurper, because the Constitution defines him as such. And he can never become anything else, because an usurper cannot gain legitimacy if even all of the country aid, abets, accedes to, or acquiesces in his usurpation.
Second, if Obama dares to take the Presidential “Oath or Affirmation” of office, knowing that he is not “a natural born Citizen,” he will commit the crime of perjury or false swearing (see Article II, Section 1, Clause 7). For, being ineligible for “the Office of President, he cannot “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” or even execute it at all, to any degree. Thus, his very act of taking the “Oath or Affirmation” will be a violation thereof! So, even if the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court himself looks the other way and administers the “Oath or Affirmation,” Obama will derive no authority whatsoever from it.
Third, his purported “Oath or Affirmation” being perjured from the beginning, Obama’s every subsequent act in the usurped “Office of President” will be a criminal offense under Title 18, United States Code, Section 242, which provides that:
[w]hoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States * * * shall be fined * * * or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from
I’m back after a week of being away. It becomes more and more apparent to me that it is NOT Obama, himself, that is keeping his records hidden. He is not the one paying for it, either. The problem is the Central Intelligence Agency which recruited Muslims to resist and fight the Soviets. This led to the creation of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Jihadist movement of our time.
Obama was part of this recruitment. He is taking advantage of this fact, knowing that his records are sealed and classified. He has no worries in this regard. It is the CIA that changes the miltary orders and does deals behind close doors to keep the issue as quiet as possible. It is this agency that does all the worrying.
No one could, by himself, so completely remove his records from sight in the manner this has been done, nor could one, on his own, get so many people on board, both in government and the Media, to avoid questioning the lack of a birth certificate and other records. It is the Central Intelligence Agency’s guaruntee that Obama is eligible that causes so many, to include Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilly and Glen Beck, to leave the issue alone. It is in the interest of “National Security” they are told.
That leads me to speculate on why? If Obama is a natural born citizen, why must this be classified? The answer I can come up with is: 1) Something may be revealed about his birth the government doesn’t want to be known. 2) Something about Obama’s past must be kept out of sight as well.
My speculation, here, is based on the Israeli interest in Obama as the possible illegitimate son of Malcolm X, and the other , his work as a Muslim for the CIA. In fact, he may have been recruited precisely because of the credentials that would have been provided, being the son of Malcolm X. This was in view of what CIA was doing at the time: supporting the Afghan rebels against the Soviets. The idea was to cash in on the fact that godless Communism was atheistic and thus America, a Godfearing nation, had this ideologically in common with Muslims.
At the time it was a win-win situation for bother Americans and Muslims. And it worked. The Afghan war really took the wind out of the sails of the Soviets. It soured the USSR on the whole military thing. Then when Reagan came up with the SDI idea, it was too much. The Berlin Wall came tumbling down and the Soviet system crumbled.
Now what? The Muslim Brotherhood and the Jihadist mentality that we helped to create, decided to take on the Great & Lesser Satans: America and Israel. Why not?
The problem with Obama, then, is not his birth certificate. That is a distraction, especially if his parents were Malcolm Little and Stanley Ann Dunham-Soetoro and he was born in Hawaii. He would be, indeed, a natural born citizen. The problem is Obama is a Shitte Muslim and leftwing radical and the CIA is covering for him because they have classified nearly everything connected with the use of Muslims to fight the Soviets. If his records were out in the open, it would be obvious he never really attended at Columbia but was given college credit for his work with the CIA. The CIA’s methods of operation would be exposed in a way they do not wish it to be exposed.
So Obama has the government insiders over a barrel. He knows they will do just about anything to keep his past out of view. Meantime, he is free to work out his own agenda: Leftwing, Anti-colonial, pro-Iran, Muslim. The birthers hurt him not at all. He probably gets a kick out of watching the CIA running around, going crazy trying to cover for him against otherwise patriotic Americans. The more the birthers press, the more it puts pressure on the CIA, not him. Meantime, he has worldwide leftwing and Muslim support. He is sitting on top of the world.
Sotoero aka Insane Obama’s very first executive orders were to seal all his records. Every since we haven’t found one judge with sufficient integrity and courage to defy that order–the self centered fat cat cowards that they are:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderPresidentialRecords/
So this is an old broadcast?
USAPartriot,
You are correct. Soetoro first signed his very FIRST E.O. Order Sealing All his Records. The new Paint didn’t have time to dry.
This “should” have sent off Red Flags. Instead, it set off internet information of questions that recognized it for what it was, ignored by the congress (the peoples house) and the Senate (the States house) alike.
As Charles Kerchner has repeatedly stated, the Fix was in, they knew and know, reason for ignoring. I believe this as well.
‘I’m going to take them out,’ declares Paladino at Tea Party rally…..
WATKINS GLEN — Carl Paladino, candidate for governor, came to the Watkin Glen Community Center on Saturday with his get-tough message on the Albany status quo…
http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20101002/NEWS01/10020348/-I-m-going-to-take-them-out-declares-Paladino-at-Tea-Party-rally
PLEASE STAND UP & PLEASE JOIN PEACEFULLY and PLEASE 100% COMPLETELY SUPPORT AMERICAN HERO LT. COL. DR. TERRENCE LAKIN AND….. EVERYWHERE OPENLY EXPOSE THE MASSIVE DAILY SERIAL CRIMINAL, FOREIGN BORN DOMESTIC ENEMY TERRORIST FOREIGN ENEMY COMBATANT OF WAR, THE FOREIGN USURPER TERRORIST, BARRY SOETORO SOEBARKAH, ALIAS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II… WHO IS A FOREIGN ENEMY WAR COMBATANT WHO IS ATTACKING and LEADING A COUP D’ETAT WAR ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and ON THE FREE USA, IN A FOREIGN WAR TO DESTROY & TO OVERTHROW THE USA GOVERNMENT!!
FROM: http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2734278%3ABlogPost%3A197893&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post
“MILITARY VETS UNIFY – PLACING OBAMA ELIG
IBILITY ON FRONT BURNER
By J.B. Williams
October 2, 2010
NewsWithViews.com
“When courts-martial presiding authority Col. Denise Lind issued a ruling that blocked Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin’s constitutional right to provide a defense by denying him a right to discovery and evidence supporting his decision to refuse what he believed to be illegal orders, thousands of fellow military veterans unified in Lakin’s defense.
The Veterans Council of the The United States Patriots Union, led by respected retired officers like Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely and Col. Harry Riley, and Sgt. Timothy Harrington issued White Paper #1 on September 3, 2010. It recommended a slightly different defense strategy for Lt. Col. Lakin that focused solely upon the historic term natural-born citizen as a constitutional requirement for the office of president. The report called upon the Lakin defense to drop the search for a birth certificate (native-born) and focus on the bloodline of the father (natural-born) issues already known.
When the Lakin defense team rebuffed calls from USPU Veterans to alter defense strategy, the Veterans Council issued White Paper #2 on September 10, 2010. It delved deeper into concerns over the anti-constitutional precedents being established in the Lakin case and reinforced calls upon the Lakin defense team to change strategies, offering to bring expert UCMJ and criminal counsel to the table on behalf of Lakin.
Read More In The Full Article Here:
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2734278%3ABlogPost%3A197893&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post
Comments Under Article:
Comment by Sandra Lee Smith 12 hours ago @3IDGrunt:
We already have his birth certificate; he was born in Mombasa, Kenya. His father was a Kenyan national, at the time under the British Crown. Obama was LATER adopted by Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian national, and under Indonesian law there can be NO dual citizenship, so where Obama was born is MOOT; he lost whatever citizenship he held before Indonesia at that time; and he was still claiming Indonesian citizenship when he started at Occidental College according to CA state fiscal records showing him having a foreign student scholarship listed as Indonesian. To the best of my knowledge he has NEVER even NATURALIZED to become an American citizen; marrying one doesn’t count there! Ergo, Obama was never even legal to hold the seat in the Senate!
Comment by Sandra Lee Smith 12 hours ago @James Cannon:
NO, we do not want to impeach actually; that would lend legitimacy to his position in the White House, and NOT guarantee his removal from it! This man is NOT now and never has been our President; he’s a foreign national usurper, who has perpetrated a MAJOR fraud on the US and the people thereof; and he needs to be arrested and charged as the foreign criminal he is; not given the legitimacy as President! That would then make the laws and appointments he’s made legitimate and harder to undo as well! We also need to be arresting and trying all those who are complicit in this fraud, starting with the media and Nancy Pelosi who was FULLY aware he wasn’t legal when she “vetted” him!
We probably should not spend a lot of time on Truthers or Anti-Semites on this blog, per se, as a matter of interest or discussion. It seems off-center and not-to-purpose relative to the main thrust here.
However, since two of the MOST HEINOUS undertakings of Obamessiah (almost a definite AGENDA, I might say) are to vilify Israel and promote Islam, this stuff needs to be laid out.
You future and your life may very well depend on a thorough and accurate grasp of the situation. Read this:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/the_plague_of_the_unjews.html
Lets begin with prosecuting Piglosi, and the media.
Margie | October 3, 2010 at 4:30 pm
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Amen and Amen!!
@ usapatriots-shout
Your analysis was correct a year ago and still correct now. May I add a couple of points?
RE: “The November Candidates and the Tea Party People are Avoiding the Solution. The candidates and Tea Party groups are treating the symptoms instead of the cancer.“
You are 100% right. Question is why? Ridiculing the opposition with irrelevant arguments and name-calling comes strait out of Alinsky’s methods. This is what his supporters very successfully employed. It is so successful that the media, including the right, barely touches the subject, and the Tea Party intentionally avoids it.
RE: Why the courts avoid ruling on merit, using the flexible Standing Doctrine as excuse.
In my opinion this phenomenon is worse that the first one (above) This means that the principle of Checks and Balances is thrown out of the window. SCOTUS as well the lower courts practice what Alen Keyes calls “dereliction of duty” making the Constitution unenforceable. Mario will not get the 4 votes to hear the case on merit by SCOTUS. The Judicial Branch is no longer independent – they take orders from the Executive Branch.
I thought the EO Obama put in place to seal records was standard operating procedure for all incoming presidents. Seems to me that was discussed at length at the time. Am I wrong here?
Also, where was it stipulated other than in that writ of ceritori that Kagan recuse herself. Is it a done deal that this case goes to SCOTUS? Or is that an “IF and WHEN?
Dean M. | October 3, 2010 at 2:08 pm |
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Dean, bottom line, who is Obama’s father?
If this CIA theory is correct….then the CIA should have NEVER allowed him to run for president……instead of this massive cover-up. They could have given the PTB the reasons why and kept him out of the running. Having a fraud, muslim sitting in the Oval Office is more of a threat to National Security than keeping their past operations secret. This just doesn’t jive to me.
If this is even close to being true, then this entire country deserves to be purged of the traitors.
“United States Senator Kit Bond staffer says the Constitution is fluid and changing and no longer viable.”
“I live in Missouri and telephoned early this year Sen. Bonds Washington office to ask why he was not asking about O’bama’s birth certificate. I was connected to Sen. Bonds First Assistant. He stated in high tone response; “Obama’s place of birth is NO longer an issue..” I reminded him of the Constitution requirements. He stated: “The Constitution is fluid and changing, and that requirement of natural birth IS NO LONGER VIABLE.”
I asked him when the Constitution was changed? He responded: “THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS NOW.”
He then hung up on me….”
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/united-states-senator-kit-bond-staffer.html
One of the things that makes me most confident of the imminent demise of bo is the Nixon experience. President Nixon was far more popular than bo ever was. Just look at the comparison of Nixon & bo’s election totals and remember that much of bo’s vote was procured by fraud.
Nixon v. mcgovern
Electoral vote 520 to 17
States carried 49 1 + DC
Popular vote 47,168,710 to 29,173,222
Percentage 60.7% to 37.5%
McCain v. bo
Electoral vote 365 to 173
States carried 28 + DC + NE-02 to 22
Popular vote 69,456,897[1] to 59,934,814[1]
Percentage 52.9%[1] to 45.7%[1]
Furthermore, President Nixon did not have a major Network and major News Publications criticizing him like bo has against him. Nor was there overwhelming evidence of crimes by President Nixon as there are against bo.
Had President Nixon not attempted to coverup for the Watergate Burglars, he would never have been forced to resign. Even with the coverup if Nixon had destroyed the tapes and refused to resign, I doubt that he would have been forced out of office.
bo, on the other hand, is going to be INDICTED, CONVICTED and IMPRISONED and there is nothing he or his co-conspirators can do to stop it now. In effect, the repubs have made bo a prisoner in the White House and they do not seem inclined to allow him to escape an ultimate prison sentence.
bo is hated by the majority of Americans, the repubs and the majority of the current and/or former members of his own dem party.
dean m’s NONSENSE posts that “bo is the son of Malcolm X and a CIA agent,” have been thoroughly DEBUNKED.
IGNORE OBOTS
HonorFirst | October 3, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
If this CIA theory is correct….then the CIA should have NEVER allowed him to run for president……instead of this massive cover-up. They could have given the PTB the reasons why and kept him out of the running. Having a fraud, muslim sitting in the Oval Office is more of a threat to National Security than keeping their past operations secret. This just doesn’t jive to me.
If this is even close to being true, then this entire country deserves to be purged of the traitors.
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dean m’s posts are UTTER NONSENSE, posted merely to distract from intelligent discussions.
THE CIA DOES NOT EMPLOY GAY muslim CRACK ADDICTS as agents.
Gordo…………………………………..
Do you suppose that somebody should wake that staffer up from his/her little fantasiacal dream? One thing is clear though,he/she is without a doubt an OBOT.
Gordo………………….
That staffer would make a perfect icon for the people who voted “BODY ODOR” into office.
Does anyone remember the raucous sounds of the FOGHORNS that were once used to remind errant mariners that they were close to shore,or rocks. Isn’t it ironic that the device used to emit a sound that SAID BBBBEEEE OOOOO. Wouldn’t it be neat to discover one of these old foghorns,rig it up to portability, and when we see Soetoro coming down Pennsylvania Ave. we could cycle the horn several times in close proximity to the PHONEY. ” BEEEEEEE—OHHHHHH.” Lifebouy soap time!
Dean M. We know for sure bo was born in Kenya no doubt about it. There is no reason for the Kenyans to lie and say he was born there. There is no reason for his grandmother to lie and say he passed through her hands. There is no reason for Kenya to place a monument at the very place of his birth and charge people to see it. Get real. He was born in Kenya.
BYE BYE FOLKS!
GORDO | October 3, 2010 at 6:09 pm |
“United States Senator Kit Bond staffer says the Constitution is fluid and changing and no longer viable.”
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He is not far from wrong. The Constitution has been raped so many times, it is not at all clear that the Avatar or Ghost of the Constitution, as currently described in USSC case law, is at all viable.
He is also right in that he cannot answer your “when” question. Other than with some form of “Are you SERIOUS?”.
I wished I knew how to fix it short of revolution. Hopefully a Velvet Revolution (such as refusing to pay national taxes) can be made to work. STARVE THE BEAST. But it will require as much sacrifice and pain from all of us as if it were a physical war.
Unfortunately THE BEAST holds all the money and all OUR “food”. In a “mexican standoff” of who blinks first, it is not clear who wins.
Except for exceptional things like Zero Ineligibility and Bowing to Muslims, our most urgent business is to cut spending. And yes that means entitlements and other benefits that are enjoyed by a vast majority of the people – including ourselves. e.g. Are we each willing to forego, say 10-20% of what we had expected from Social Security – all to save our generations of offspring? Or will we succumb to individual and short-sighted greed?
Also, we must remember that for ANY national budget cut, even just a few dollars, our evil enemy can trot out a specific instance of somebody pitiful and deserving that got hurt. e. g. are we willing to put a stake through the heart of most of OSHA, knowing full well that a few more miners will die? e. g. are we willing to put a stake through the heart of Obamacare, knowing full well that some deserving single mothers and even some babies will be harmed?
That is the way entitlements work. That is why they are “impossible” to ratchet back. The entitlement lovers can ALWAYS find heart-rending counter examples.
We have to be prepared to govern by statistics, overall average benefit, not individual cases. Reliance on individual cases will ALWAYS lead directly to Socialism. We also need to be willing to talk about the future and national sacrifice, not falling disproportionately, to ensure the future. We have to be prepared to be “cold hearted” in terms of deficit spending – to essentially, if you will, put a price on human life.
Are we prepared to do all that? Or are we just sputtering and pizzing into the wind?
BTW – Our founding fathers were indeed willing to do ALL THAT. That is why they won. Are we too soft?
“CDR Kerchner responds to Senator Kit Bond’s assistant on presidential eligibility”
“SINCE WHEN DOES A SENATOR OR HIS STAFFER CHANGE THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR PRESIDENT?”
“In response to the statement by a staffer to Missouri Sen. Kit Bond, who stated that ““The Constitution is fluid and changing, and that requirement of natural birth IS NO LONGER VIABLE,” I submit the following: (at link)”
Free Speech
I did not say that Dean M’s theory was nonsense. In fact, I always appreciate his input. He has been an intelligent and informative blogger since the old TD days. All decent debate should be encouraged.
WE the People can overturn this charade and guide the Ship in the right direction. I have faith we can start in November and take the country back to Capitalism. The Whites who voted for bo and his administration will not vote for him again. The minority voting communists Are Not the Majority. The communists will not win again.
PS – Our opponents will POUND us with “turning back 200 years of progress”. Are we prepared to accept the following vision? Are we prepared to articulate this ideology from every available bully pulpit? Are we prepared to make this a top consideration for voting for ANY candidate for public office at ANY level? Are we prepared to live and die by this rule?
Soetoro, and his GOONS will pay the FIDDLER IN NOVEMBER! It was he along with his SLIMEY friends in Congress who TOOK away $550 billion from MEDICARE to GIVE to a PACK of SLIME bags who never paid in a damn penny to Social Security. Then he compounds the insult by disallowing any COLA for 2010. I am a senior and I know a LOT of seniors. We are REALLY steamed, and if it is the last thing we do it will be to VOTE the A hole out of office if he is still HOLDING OFFICE in 2012. I REFUSE TO KICK OFF until I have PLACED MY VOTE AGAINST HIM ONCE AGAIN! This time perhaps it will work. WE WON’T FORGET! PAYBACK IS COMING “BODY ODOR”
HonorFirst | October 3, 2010 at 7:05 pm |
I said that dean m’s posts are UTTER NONSENSE, posted merely to distract from intelligent discussions. His RUBBISH feeds the stereotypes that the obots want to tag us with.
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GORDO | October 3, 2010 at 7:02 pm |
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This, of course, is also very correct. IN THEORY.
But I have written many times that part of the rape of the constituion – especially at the congressional and executive level – is to substitute PRAGMATISM for THEORY. And no one calls them on it. “Are you SERIOUS?”
Overall for more than a hundred years we have had no Constitutional Police. Wouldn’t it be cool to have like a Sheriff or Cop who could arrest people on the spot for appearing to violate the constitution? And then send them through the same sort of due process afforded other criminals. Arraignment, hearings, trials, verdicts, punishments, etc. After all, the Constitution IS the supreme law of the land, no?
Over these decades, the USSC has largely turned constitutional scholarship and decision making into a game. More often than not, selecting the most liberal possible solution, and even also “making up fairy tales” of constitutional provisions hiding among the shadows and penumbras.
And, oh yeah, the Federal Government (supposedly chartered and governed by the States) is in charge of overseeing and ruling on their own (Federal Government) compliance with the constitution. How is this not exactly as silly as the White House self-investigating themselves and declaring themselves pure and lilly white?
How is it hard to understand – that with years of flaunting the constitution – lawmakers are confronted with a potentially ugly constitutional problem – and they just chuck it in the dustbin with all the other things they have ignored and routinely ignore?
We need to quit acting surprised and indignant. This has been going on since before you were born.
“BODY ODOR”, there is one hell of a lot of seniors in the US, do you think that you can interr ALL OF US IN YOUR LITTLE CAMPS BEFORE WE VOTE YOU OUT. IN NOVEMBER WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY A HELL OF A LOT OF YOUR OBOT GOONS. LIKE PALIDINO SAID “WATCH ME”.
Free Speech | October 3, 2010 at 7:14 pm |
HonorFirst | October 3, 2010 at 7:05 pm |
I said that dean m’s posts are UTTER NONSENSE, posted merely to distract from intelligent discussions. His RUBBISH feeds the stereotypes that the obots want to tag us with.
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THAT SOUNDS AN AWFUL LOT LIKE THE FORBIDDEN NAME CALLING. DID YOU NOT GET THE MEMO?
typo Palidino=PALADINO
Sounds like bo’s Terrorist Pal Chavez is worried that he is about to be removed just like Zelaya.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/03/AR2010100303313_pf.html
Chavez, who survived a failed coup in 2002, says the militia should be prepared to defend the country against any threat, foreign or domestic. He has said he believes the United States poses a threat to his oil-exporting country…
Georgetown, I agree 100%. But, we can’t ease up after November. Hopefully some of these more fiscal conservatives can get this country back on the right footing. For too long, we have been a nation of consumers, not producers. If anyone with sense can bring tax relief to all those indurstries that have moved overseas, and create tax incentives to those that are here; balance out the trade deficits and start developing all our natural resources, they could have this country thriving again. Foreign money would flood into our economy, not the other way around.
Once the geniuses in Washington realize that consumption is a by-product of production, we will flourish.
I apologise for my errant use of words that tend to be seen as name calling. I will not use such graphics again. Time to get out of here and vent my anger elsewhere.
Muslim Cleric: “The Flag of Islam will one day fly over the White House”
PS – I was one of the very first on the planet to be exposed to Dean M.’s “wacky CIA theory”. However, I never pizzed on it, even though I went on record early as it being “incredible” and “improbable”.
Dean M. is my witness. We have never had a hostile discussion (in fact I NEVER have hostile discussions with rational or open minded people). But neither was I a big fan.
But as time as gone on, more and more of the pieces are falling into place and more and more dots get connected – Like any good hypothesis in science, one makes an opinion or a statement, and proceeds to work out the mathematics and/or collect or wait for Data Points. Similar to the scientific method, Dean M.’s hypothesis has never been refuted and never been disadvantaged by any facts – except possible around the relatively inconsequential edges. Au Contraire – The more we learn the better smelling becomes his hypothesis.
Do I worship it fanatically? Heck no. Do I believe it? Uhh, Unnh, partly and with reluctance. Is it a righteous and rational hypothesis? You betcha. Is it a good example of someone thinking outside the box and refusing to follow GroupThink? Absolutely. Do either Dean M. or I have the credentials or access to prove this theory? No. Do either Dean M. or I have the credentials or access to vet the apparent credibility of this theory. Seemingly yes on both accounts.
I wrote this rather lengthy response as another example of how we should work together. I hope some of you can read this an learn a little. Others of you should read this and try to learn a LOT.
oldsalt79 | October 3, 2010 at 7:28 pm |
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Hey! You weren’t talking about any of us were you?
The memo said you could pizz on deserving public
officials, just not on other Valiant Patriots trying to
post stuff on this blog.
Go for it.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | October 3, 2010 at 4:27 pm |
You future and your life may very well depend on a thorough and accurate grasp of the situation. Read this:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/the_plague_of_the_unjews.html
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Thanks for posting this very enlightening article! I really had no idea that there were so many unJews – Jews who have gone against their own people and country. Of course, George Soros comes to mind, but there are many, many others of lesser fame. This is one of the reasons why we have had several discussions here about this very problem, since the unJews give aid and comfort to Americans and others of like mind. It is a convenient cloak under which there is seemingly refuge.
LM | October 3, 2010 at 7:32 pm |
Muslim Cleric: “The Flag of Islam will one day fly over the White House”
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That is the truth face of islam. bo believes the same thing, he just doesn’t have the guts to admit it. bo has already bowed down to islam.
Michelle Obama threatens to divorce Barack Obama if he tries to seek second term
http://www.examiner.com/liberal-in-vancouver/michelle-obama-threatens-to-divorce-barack-obama-if-he-tries-to-seek-second-term
Georgetown | October 3, 2010 at 6:52 pm |
Dean M. We know for sure bo was born in Kenya no doubt about it. There is no reason for the Kenyans to lie and say he was born there. There is no reason for his grandmother to lie and say he passed through her hands. There is no reason for Kenya to place a monument at the very place of his birth and charge people to see it. Get real. He was born in Kenya.
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No, we don’t know any such thing. Merely listing what you claim is ‘evidence’ of your claim is not the same as ‘proving’ such claim. But even assuming the evidence you list is authentic; and that you and those of us reading your comment agree, you have proven your point that Obama is not a NBC, so what? What is the next step?
This points to the reason that most of these pie-in-the-sky responses to the question of Obama’s Constitutional eligibility for POTUS really mean nothing. That is, no nexus is offered as to how this knowledge he is ineligible gets him out of office.
However, if we shift the burden of production (evidence) AND proof away from him, and place these burdens on anyone who claimed he was Constitutionally eligible for office in order to get his name printed on state ballots; that’s how we will get him out of office. Because once the lie as to his eligibility is exposed then, whether he is eligible is no longer an issue. Only that, someone hadn’t ascertained he was eligible before claiming he was, to state election officials, just to get them to print his name on the ballot.
At that point, Congress will act. And if worse comes to worst and they still sit on this information, well, at least the public will know the truth in time for the 2012 elections.
Free American Soldiers Sitting in Leavenworth Just As You Have Freed Terrorists!
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2734278%3ATopic%3A198202&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
Will BO accelerate his “programs” after the mt election like his mentor in crime, Chavez, is now doing while he still has time?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101003/ts_nm/us_venezuela_chavez
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/03/AR2010100303313_pf.html
Gulf Coast residents explaining problems from their point of view.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6923478n&tag=related;photovideo
BP Fund: Ken Feinberg’s Tough Task
Dean M. 2:08 PM
“The more the birthers press, the more it puts pressure on the CIA, not him. Meantime, he has worldwide leftwing and Muslim support. He is sitting on top of the world.”
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Dean M., I have read this post and others in the past and am very inclined to agree with you about the CIA’s hiding of O’s records. Just O’s issuing an executive order, even if it were the first time it had been done, could not accomplish the sealing of all records so completely as has been done. If the executive order “did it”, then what about the hidden records prior to his taking office? No, a force larger than O is responsible. Who else, but the CIA?
Another point which a poster here keeps making is that the CIA doesn’t hire people of O’s character. I am certainly no intelligence expert but have observed that the CIA hires informants, lower level intelligence gatherers, and some who have unsavory reputations to do undercover work. Am I wrong? To me, it is entirely possible that O was hired by the CIA, not as a regular agent, but for some specific purpose in the 1980’s. That could possibly explain the myriad of social security numbers and addresses which are attributed to him during those years.
When it comes to O’s father, that seems still open for grabs, if one is perfectly honest. O says his father is O, Sr., but O DOES lie. We all know that. As far as the Kenyan claim, well, that has not been proven in a court of law. Truthfully, I just don’t know for sure, and I don’t think anyone else here does either.
Free Speech @ 1:27 pm |
There was a little story re: Kagan on the news tonight, something about sitting out for six months due to prior jobs in the admin. Supreme Court opens tomorrow-first Monday in Oct.
Grey-Haired Brigade
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/10/grey-haired-brigade.html
Grey-Haired Brigade
They like to refer to us as senior citizens, old fogies, geezers, and in some cases dinosaurs. Some of us are “baby boomer” getting ready to retire.
Others have been retired for some time. We walk a little slower these days and our eyes and hearing are not what they once were. We have worked hard, raised our children, worshipped our God and grown old together. Yes, we are the ones some refer to as being over the hill and that is probably true.
But before writing us off completely, there are a few things that need to be taken into consideration. . . .
Cabby – AZ | October 3, 2010 at 7:40 pm |
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Why do you think I get so sick and tired of Nazis coming on here and saying all their best friends are Jews (good jews) and that they hate the Zionists (bad jews) as much as anybody else. And even the Jews know these crackpots are dragging them down and making them all look like Schmucks?
It is EXACTLY what happened the 50s and 60s in my own personal memory. In the hysteria of the Civil Rights “movement” thousands of Educated Negros were saying exactly the same stuff. “It’s not us, it’s those bad ni-ggers! The purpose of this is to get an early ride on the gravy train and to distance oneself from any of “them” that might embarrass you or drag you down – in the eyes of the people you are trying to suck up to.
If any of these so-called Good Negros could promote their own selves, or gain better traction or upwards mobility, by throwing their “others” under the bus – you betcha.
(PS – Lest I get hate mail – MOST of the Negroes of that period were essentially regular people. I am only talking about those who actively tried to make a distinction between GN and BN and exploit that difference. Similarly with Jews. In my experience most Jews are just regular people – I am once again criticizing those who unrighteously make a distinction between GJ and BJ.)
Let me break it down for folks real plain and simple.
For hundreds of years at the end of the middle ages and into The Enlightment, Central Europe was in total turmoil. Kings and Dukes and Pontiffs, and areas of land, and ownership of serfs, all very fluid.
As the results of wars, all this would change periodically and people largely settled down into their new regions. Then there were more wars and more shuffling and the alignments got better. After WW1 and WW2, the alignments started to really gel. Many counter examples, of course.
When the Allies had to sort out the winners and losers of those WW’s – the Muslims and Arabs were on the losing side. But all previous accepted rules of warfare, ALL the Arab lands should have been divided up and parceled out among the winners. Same with Germany and Italy.
But in there Liberal and Enlightened view of themselves, the winners wanted to try something different. They firmed up the geography, created actual countries instead of fiefdoms and no mans lands, and sorted everybody out. It was largely a big success in Central Europe and led directly to what we know know as the various countries we see on our globe and The Eurozone.
(Yeah, there were Russians, and Western Europe and Eastern Europe, and all that crap – but nothing is perfect and eventually most of that was worked out)
Well the Mideast (remember: the losers) were similarly set up in states and regions and propped up. Can we look back and play monday morning quaterback? Sure. Did it all get done properly? maybe not. Was it necessary for almost all of these to be protectorates to keep them from blowing up? Yes. Was the protectorate handled properly and further turned over to locals soon enough? probably not.
But the Major completely rational and completely justified solution was to put Syrians and Arabs in Syria, put Egyptians and their traditional populations in Egypt. And to put the Western-most Arabs in Jordan, and the more Eastern Arabs in Saudi, Oman, Iraq, etc. The Jews (remember: the winning side) were put into their traditional homeland of thousands of years – The Holy Land – Roughly everything between Syria and Egypt and between Jordan River and Mediterranean Sea.
It is important to understand that at this time, THERE WERE NO PALESTINIANS. THERE WAS NO PALESTINE (except an old synonym for the regions similar to how language was used for Gaul and France or Allemene and Germany.
Some of the Arabs basically absorbed these circumstances and therefore became modern or modern-becoming countries like Syria and Jordan. SOME of the Arabs – with no legitimate claim on the region at all – no religion, no government, no monuments, no cities, no holy sites – chose to basically become terrorists and stayed underground and knifed the Jews whenever they got a chance.
The Arabs being barbarians allowed no Jews in their designated countries. The Jews being civilized allowed quite a few Arabs into their regions. When and as the Arabs became or continued to be hostile, the Israelis began disproportionate policing. Requiring special procedures and processes for Arabs. YES – THE FATAL LIBERAL SIN OF PROFILING.
That has never ceased because the Arabs will not be civilized. Ultimately via wars and diplomatic processes, the Jews GAVE some of their land to the Arabs to jump start a peace process. The foremost example being Gaza.
This has made matters worse. The Jews turned a barren no good territory to gleaming cities and industry in 2 or 3 generations. The Arabs and Arab populations near Israel (specifically Gaza and West Bank) have not prospered and are still barbarians and refuse to be civilized.
All other dislocated peoples, Europe, Asia, Arabia, etc. have more or less settled down and accepted the status quo and have begun building (some faster than others) their countries, their identities and the populations. Of all the WW “war victims” it is ONLY this small branch of Arabs that has created for themselves a fictitious identity, a fictitious state, and a bizarre right of “return of refugees” long past where the concept of “refugee” makes no sense. No where else in the world is the term “refugee” used to refer to more than one generation – and then usually only to specific actual evictees.
This is actually a very simple and understandable story. Other world situations are more complex. This is quite black and white. The “Palestinians” are poisonous vipers in the midst of the Israelites. Why they even allowed ANY of these so-called “palestinians” to hang around is one of the world’s great mysteries. I sure bet they wouldn’t do it again!
The “palestinians” have NO CASE. ZERO. Except that maybe the surrounding Arab nations don’t want them – and actually treat them more as second class citizens then even the Jews are accused of.
You see why this is so insidious? It is right up there with the Logic of Hitler. And, yes, just like I blow my cork whenever Ahdiminajad or others pizz on the holocaust or say the Jews brought in on themselves – I get equally angry when anyone suggest that “Palestinians” are holier than Israelis. GGAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!
Other than that, I am a pretty easy going guy.
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 8:13 pm |
Free Speech @ 1:27 pm |
There was a little story re: Kagan on the news tonight, something about sitting out for six months due to prior jobs in the admin. Supreme Court opens tomorrow-first Monday in Oct.
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This will be the most eventful SCOTUS term in history.
Btw, thanks for the 60 Mins. Link
GORDO @ 6:09 pm |
“In response to the statement by a staffer to Missouri Sen. Kit Bond, who stated that ““The Constitution is fluid and changing, and that requirement of natural birth IS NO LONGER VIABLE,” I submit the following: (at link)”
Yet another criminal, Gordo I don’t believe Obama was a CIA hot shot operative , maybe a drug mule-something like that, he would not go to the Cesspool of Corruption Chicago’s South Side and become a community organizer-literally a slum landlord. I think CIA is used to give him some kind of credibility and intelligence that he could not possess. Working for the CIA covers a lot of territory.
Free Speech @ 6:19 pm |
Accusing Malcolm X who took a vow of celibacy at the time could not be the father, that is so unfair to a person who could possibly defend themselves.
Thank you everyone for the responses to my concerns. I can’t hold my own in these discussions, but I read Citizen Wells daily and I am learning a lot. I am a better educated voter because I do.
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Thank you for your thought provoking post, Kiltie.
Free Speech @ 7:24 pm |
I really believe Mexico, all of Latin America and parts of South America are inches away from total revolution. Far too many abuses for far too long. I don’t think Calderon can hang on to power. I think they said on the news tonight 30,000 Mexican people murdered since this drug war started-can you imagine the revenge killings from the families and all the other troubles that have not been addressed.
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
Free Speech @ 6:19 pm |
Accusing Malcolm X who took a vow of celibacy at the time could not be the father, that is so unfair to a person who could possibly defend themselves.
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Michelle,
Anyone who has researched the life of Malcolm X knows that this obot defamatory allegation regarding bo is UTTER NONSENSE.
Likewise anyone knowledgeable of the intelligence agencies kn
JB- Obviously it’s too late for the current Congress to do anything about bo’s ineligibility. And I seriously doubt that even if the truth were presented in proper fashion that they would do anything about it. But the truth needs be told to the people who insist on voting for him, and his communistic /Socialistic policy. They need the truth, it may help guide them. Secondly, this challenge as to his place of birth, can be brought up by any of the eligible 2012 candidates. Lastly the 112 Congress “may” act and get the Truth if the voice of the people demanding the Truth is heard loud enough. So as I’ve stated earlier the Kenyans have no reason to lie, and they have said it several times in Parliamentary Hearings he was born on their soil and a Kenyan is running the US. There is no hatred, no racial biases no prejudices only the truth. Bo was born in Kenya.
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
Free Speech @ 6:19 pm |
Accusing Malcolm X who took a vow of celibacy at the time could not be the father, that is so unfair to a person who could possibly defend themselves.
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Michelle,
Anyone who has researched the life of Malcolm X knows that this obot defamatory allegation regarding bo is UTTER NONSENSE.
Likewise anyone knowledgeable of the intelligence agencies knows that the disinformation about bo being a CIA agent is PREPOSTEROUS.
Citizen Carlyle 8:20 PM
“You see why this is so insidious? It is right up there with the Logic of Hitler. And, yes, just like I blow my cork whenever Ahdiminajad or others pizz on the holocaust or say the Jews brought in on themselves – I get equally angry when anyone suggest that “Palestinians” are holier than Israelis. GGAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!”
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Oh, believe me, I am just as passionate as you are, CC, when it comes to this issue, which will raise my dander in a red-hot minute. You have described the situation accurately in my opinion but I don’t have the secular history background that you do. I see it also from the biblical perspective which gives much understanding as to the enmity between the races from the very beginning.
One of the big queries to me is, “Why have the surrounding Arab nations, like Jordan, for example, not assimilated the ‘Palestinians’ into their countries and provided a place for them to dwell and take root?”
No, rather it is all the fault of Israel – mean, old Israel – who has bent over backwards to be nice and civil.
Another point: The Palestinians say they want peace, but at the same time want to deny Israel any homeland at all. They vocally shout that all Jews should be driven into the sea. Now, have we ever heard that Israel wanted to annihilate the Palestinians? Not on your life, but rather they have tried over and over again to have peace talks. One could go on and on, so I’ll shut up for now.
Just pray that we get to Wednesday, November 3, 2010 (the day AFTER election day) without incident. I don’t trust this regime & they know their days in power are numbered.
Cabby, the majority of Palis ARE Jordanian. They were brought to Israel as migrant workers to make a once barren land fertile. Big mistake, in hindsight and a lesson for the USA as well.
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 8:27 pm |
GORDO @ 6:09 pm |
“In response to the statement by a staffer to Missouri Sen. Kit Bond, who stated that ““The Constitution is fluid and changing, and that requirement of natural birth IS NO LONGER VIABLE,” I submit the following: (at link)”
Yet another criminal, Gordo I don’t believe Obama was a CIA hot shot operative , maybe a drug mule-something like that, he would not go to the Cesspool of Corruption Chicago’s South Side and become a community organizer-literally a slum landlord. I think CIA is used to give him some kind of credibility and intelligence that he could not possess. Working for the CIA covers a lot of territory.
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bo like Nixon is TERRIFIED of the CIA. dean m., oc & cabby are just spreading this disinformation to try and discredit the CIA. This obot NONSENSE is so silly, I can’t believe sunstein/bo pay obots to post this crap.
Sam Sewell 8:14 PM
Grey-Haired Brigade
“….. For those of you who don’t know what an icebox is, today they are electric and referred to as refrigerators. A few even remember when cars were started with a crank. Yes, we lived those days.”
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What a very good essay, Dr. Sam! I resonate with all that you said. When you spoke the above words about cranking cars, I just have to share something rather humorous. When I was a kid, my dear uncle had a Model A Ford for awhile. He cranked it, but I’m not sure that he needed to. Then later he got another later model and continued to crank in order to spare the car. Of course, this was very funny to me and my parents, who were driving about a 1938 used Dodge, which didn’t need that kind of start. Those were some good, old days, all right, and your words bring back memories. The country needs all of us right now!
Obama DUH your base-everything would never be ENOUGH,and you/them were dumb enough to fall for it.
http://www.breitbart.tv/hate-rally-behind-the-scenes-in-their-own-words/
“[The Stimulus] did a little, but we need ten times as much!”
Rosemary Woodhouse | October 3, 2010 at 8:45 pm |
Just pray that we get to Wednesday, November 3, 2010 (the day AFTER election day) without incident. I don’t trust this regime & they know their days in power are numbered.
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bo launched his Oil/Corexit WMD Attack on the Gulf as a prelude to martial law. Don’t be surprised if bo doesn’t launch additional Terrorist Attacks on the US before the election.
Free Speech 8:49 PM
“bo like Nixon is TERRIFIED of the CIA. dean m., oc & cabby are just spreading this disinformation to try and discredit the CIA. This obot NONSENSE is so silly, I can’t believe sunstein/bo pay obots to post this crap.”
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Hey, nobody, but nobody is paying me! You have your OPINION and we have ours. Your opinion is that what we post is NONSENSE. That is only your opinion, it is NOT fact. I would hope that you absorbed the admonishment at the beginning of today.
The broadcast is Old. Bill O’Reilly and Megan Kelly waved the Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth under Sean and Glen Noses and lulled them back to sleep.
Free Speech-slide down to the picture of Justice Thomas (I think that’s him)
hillbuzz took a screen shot of this-to me it looks like someone is flipping out.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/10/03/i-will-know-them-by-their-love/
Unlike RAAAAACIST Right Wingnuts who Want to Rebuild Plantations and Shove Blacks to the Back of the Bus Again, WE EMBRACE DIVERSITY AND LOVE PEOPLE OF ALL COLORS
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 11:31 pm |
Free Speech-slide down to the picture of Justice Thomas (I think that’s him)
hillbuzz took a screen shot of this-to me it looks like someone is flipping out.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/10/03/i-will-know-them-by-their-love/
Unlike RAAAAACIST Right Wingnuts who Want to Rebuild Plantations and Shove Blacks to the Back of the Bus Again, WE EMBRACE DIVERSITY AND LOVE PEOPLE OF ALL COLORS
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Obots are classless vile hypocrites, always accusing Patriots of the despicable things that they are guilty of.
White House Insider: Obama Suffering From Severe Depression
• Posted by Tymann on October 3, 2010 at 12:34pm in General, Uncategorized Town Hall
http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-o…
• Obama’s puppet masters were only too eager to push this empty suit to the top. They lusted so desperately to steal America by means of usurpation, they never considered the puppet might not be strong enough to hold up under the fantastic pressures for a full four years. Ha! So now he is crumbling! Ha, Ha.
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• All they will do is pump him up with more cocaine to prop him up until they find a suitable new world order replacement. In the mean time, we the people need to grow hay while the sun shines. Run to the polls and vote out every incumbent, democrat, and idiot who thinks it is fashionable to be a Progressive!
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 11:31 pm |
Michelle did you read the actual text? It is Clarence Thomas in the picture. You need to read the text to see why the author of that picture is indeed someone in need of medical intervention.
The author of the hit piece on Clarence Thomas calls him a moron. He also calls Justice Thomas deranged and claims that this good man hates himself and black people… yeah right.
The report states that Justice Clarence Thomas has requested of his fellow justices on the Supreme Court to hear the Leo Donofrio case. The writ from Donofrio contended that Øbama was not eligible to be placed on the ballot in the first place.
If the story is correct, that Justice Thomas has in recent weeks made this request, then perhaps this is good news!!
What is not good is that a goon, like this particular author continues to lampoon Justice Clarence Thomas, a man who has a very fine brain and who well and truly deserves his position as a Supreme Court justice.
Clarence Thomas does not hate blacks, and he does not hate himself. The issue needs to be resolved and only the Supreme Court can rule on this matter challenging the eligibility to be placed on the ballot.
Aussie | October 4, 2010 at 1:50 am |
… The issue needs to be resolved and only the Supreme Court can rule on this matter challenging the eligibility to be placed on the ballot.
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Leo Donofrio’s ‘eligibility’ case was always fatally flawed for at least these 2 (two) reasons. 1. His legal claim was mandamus, that is, he was asking the Judicial Branch of government to order the Executive Branch (SoS) to vet Obama was Constitutional eligibility for POTUS. However, the court will not breach governmental separation of powers unless the Legislative Branch wrote a law specifically telling the SoS s/he must vet candidates for eligibility for office before printing their names on the ballot. 2. NJ has no law requiring that all candidates whose names are printed on the ballot must be eligible for the job.
A SoS in a state with a ballot eligibility law can write the rules and regulations for carrying out that law, for example, laying out the steps for vetting such candidates. And s/he can define NBC however s/he wants (as long as this has some rational basis in fact). Any candidate aggrieved over a negative decision from the SoS can appeal to the court. Eventually, this is how we will get a definition of NBC!
jbjd | October 4, 2010 at 3:08 am |
How is your comment relevant to the fact that Justice Thomas has been talking to other Supreme Court Justices about taking on this case?
If the case is so fatally flawed, why is Justice Thomas interested in taking it on?
I am willing to just sit back and wait to see if there is an outcome. I was surprised that this was the case… nothing more, nothing less.
Cabby – AZ | October 3, 2010 at 9:05 pm |
@Cabby I concur.
However, I am one who does not accept this CIA theory. It does not pass my smell test.
I have previously speculated that rather than the CIA that he was perhaps doing work at some point for the KGB. This man is a Marxist. Why would the CIA give that kind of work to a Marxist?
I think that the original explanation for the trip to Pakistan is the most likely to be correct – that he visited the family of his “buddy” at Columbia.
I have observed that some facts have emerged that tie him to Columbia via student activity – he participated in demonstrations against the South African Rugby team. Also some have come forward about hearing him speak (not sure if that was at Columbia or Occidental).
What no one has given away is anything to do with grades. Did he ever turn up to lectures and tutorials? How come no one has come forward to say that they knew him from being in the same tutorials?
Emudude.
Yes I know the broadcast is old.
However, it is relevant.
Aussie | October 4, 2010 at 5:03 am |
jbjd | October 4, 2010 at 3:08 am |
How is your comment relevant to the fact that Justice Thomas has been talking to other Supreme Court Justices about taking on this case?
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I clicked on the link to Hillbuzz and read the cartoon of Thomas, which included the ‘news’ of Leo’s case.
>>>JBJD
Leo Donofrio’s ‘eligibility’ case was always fatally flawed for at least these 2 (two) reasons. 1. His legal claim was mandamus, that is, he was asking the Judicial Branch of government to order the Executive Branch (SoS) to vet Obama was Constitutional eligibility for POTUS. However, the court will not breach governmental separation of powers unless the Legislative Branch wrote a law specifically telling the SoS s/he must vet candidates for eligibility for office before printing their names on the ballot. 2. NJ has no law requiring that all candidates whose names are printed on the ballot must be eligible for the job.
A SoS in a state with a ballot eligibility law can write the rules and regulations for carrying out that law, for example, laying out the steps for vetting such candidates. And s/he can define NBC however s/he wants (as long as this has some rational basis in fact). Any candidate aggrieved over a negative decision from the SoS can appeal to the court. Eventually, this is how we will get a definition of NBC!<<<<
You have much better understanding of the present legal system than I do. Yet, why have a eligibility for POTUS requirement if their really is no Federal way to investigate and enforce such claims? Clearly, the seperation of powers would prevent the Executive Branch from vetting itself. Therefore, the legislative branch must have the sole power to investigate such a claim. However, the SCOTUS is mandated with primary jurisdiction over officers and diplomats.
What I see is nothing less than political hot potato, nobody wants it, nobody is sure whose jurisdiction is what, and Congress certainly doesn't want to investigate. This leaves the SCOTUS in a very bad place, since they cannot be the primary investigators, but are the mandated with Constitutional interpretation and 'officers and diplomats'. The other courts must realize that this really is SCOTUS territory, and using the 'standing' excuse have dodged the issue.
Me thinks, that perhaps the broken wheel is Congress, and the whole process has been derailed by that. This would be convient excuse, but doesn't really explain the other issues and hidden records. When you have the facts you pound them, not have teams of lawyers go around the country and hide them.
Pete
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
Free Speech @ 6:19 pm |
Accusing Malcolm X who took a vow of celibacy at the time could not be the father, that is so unfair to a person who could possibly defend themselves.
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Malcolm X was a vile, mean, despicable person. A “worst of the worst” type. Do you think he is some kind of Saint or Hero? I don’t know if he made such vows, I don’t know if he was indeed ever celibate for any period of time. But vows of any kind by such people are worthless.
You don’t know squat. I don’t know squat. Nobody knows squat. Malcolm X as Zero’s father is just a good as guess as any of the several others. No more no less. Get over it.
Free Speech | October 3, 2010 at 8:40 pm |
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
Free Speech @ 6:19 pm |
Accusing Malcolm X who took a vow of celibacy at the time could not be the father, that is so unfair to a person who could possibly defend themselves.
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Michelle,
Anyone who has researched the life of Malcolm X knows that this obot defamatory allegation regarding bo is UTTER NONSENSE.
Likewise anyone knowledgeable of the intelligence agencies knows that the disinformation about bo being a CIA agent is PREPOSTEROUS.
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More total disinformation. Dean M. and I, and maybe others here ARE knowledgeable about the CIA. Obama would have made a PERFECT agent. They frequently use people like this – yes, actively recruit them for undercover work.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET BANNED FOR POISONING THIS BLOG?
Besides, Malcom X, Elijah Mohomad, Eldrige Cleaver, and all the “Black Power” leaders of that era were just the black version of the KKK that we let flourish out of a perverted sense of Political Correctness.
Your liberalness/racism is showing.
Lunatic Liberals and Racists (especially reverse racists) are not welcome here.
Michelle | October 3, 2010 at 8:36 pm |
Free Speech @ 7:24 pm |
I really believe Mexico, all of Latin America and parts of South America are inches away from total revolution.
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Yeah, and guess what? Without proper border security, it will all spill over into the US. With unimagineable consequences.
Rosemary Woodhouse | October 3, 2010 at 8:47 pm |
Cabby, the majority of Palis ARE Jordanian. They were brought to Israel as migrant workers to make a once barren land fertile. Big mistake, in hindsight and a lesson for the USA as well.
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EXCELLENT POINT
There are “lessons” for the US all over the world. And we are very poor at learning them. Only the Lunatic Liberals would make a huge leap toward socialized medicine just at the time every country who has adopted that paradigm is blowing up.
Cabby AZ………………………
Do you know that many people who owned Model A Fords,and even some who owned modet T fords, learned the hard way that the FOUR BANGER ford engine had a mind of it’s own,and unless set correctly for starting could and often DID break the thumb bones of many a CRANKER. This was for the most part that the cranker DID NOT KNOW HOW TO HOLD THE CRANK IN HIS/HER HAND TO AVOID the backfiring of a cylinder, which in turn broke the thumbs of many a cranker. The Model T was the worst offender of this but the A Mocel could and would do it as well if not properly set for crank starting.
T Models had a MANUAL spark advance and retard. If it was not set properly for crank starting it was possible to end your day at a doctors office getting your thumb in a splint or a cast. When the premature firing would occur the crank would not disengage the crankshaft but instesd would violently turn counter revolutionary, and if you had your thumb extended over the crank handle you probably ended up with a broken thiumb.
Cabby – AZ | October 3, 2010 at 9:05 pm |
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I guess he still hasn’t read the memo!
I wish CW would put him in permanent moderation.
Or just flat out ban him. This “person” has long past
spent whatever Hero Points or Bravery Points he
may have used to have. He is operating way out in
Negative Karma land. I thought my expose’ of
Negative Liberty and Positive Liberty would be
the final nail in his coffin. It would be curious to
know why not.
Opinions are one thing – but anyone here who has
stated that their mission is to “ridicule” as opposed
to inform or share ideas – it’s beyond me why that
anyone has not been sent to Siberia.
Free Speech | October 3, 2010 at 11:41 pm |
Obots are classless vile hypocrites, always accusing Patriots of the despicable things that they are guilty of.
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Why do you keep posting statements and articles that describe yourself?
Narcissism perhaps?
Aussie | October 4, 2010 at 5:03 am |
jbjd | October 4, 2010 at 3:08 am |
How is your comment relevant to the fact that Justice Thomas has been talking to other Supreme Court Justices about taking on this case?
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jbjd’s facts appear correct, but as usual the conclusion she espouses is not the only one. She has a habit of glomming onto one of several possible outcomes and saying “that is the one” or claiming that particular outcome is proof of something. Beware.
As I have said numerous times – there is no such thing as a FATALLY FLAWED case in regard USSC. They have the ability and the authority to hear anything. They could have ordered discovery and made a declaratory judgment even if they could not grant the relief requested.
This is just SO BOGUS. If the USSC wanted to fix this problem, they have had upward of a half dozen chances to do it – in addition to their ability to undertake something of their own initiative.
BOGUS BOGUS BOGUS
Pete | October 4, 2010 at 7:35 am |
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You sneak up VERY CLOSE to the heart of the matter.
A law with no means of enforcement is indeed a useless and invalid law. So in reverse, there is an important, perhaps written, Rule of the Universe. A given law contains the seeds of it’s own enforcement.
ANYBODY – citizen’s arrest? – can enforce such a law. And for ANYBODY who swears an oath to defend and uphold the “book” in which the law is contained, is AUTOMATICALLY deputized to enforce that law.
Even MORE TO THE POINT – any official who so swears, and is in a convenient official position to enforce such law, and does not, is indeed violating their oath.
For instance – this is very clear and obvious –
Somebody like LtC Lakin is ALLOWED to enforce the law because he took the oath. However his position – way down in the chain of command – does not put him in a particularly convenient position that it would REQUIRED that he do it.
However, the JCS, the Heads of each service, Senior Pentagon, etc. – ALL are REQUIRED by their oath to enforce this law. And they are in such a position, that at the slightest hint of a constitutional violation, they should undertake an investigation.
Same for ALL state election officials.
Finally, it would be very hard to stick such authorities with actual Malfeasance because they could argue that their was no credible suspicion and then argue for decades over the meaning of “credible”.
But a Writ of Mandemus is PERFECT. Among other things, it says – you may have not done your proper duty before, but now we as a court of law determine that there is at least a credible suspicion and we ORDER you to do your duty know.
Too many people want to argue what courts CAN’T do rather than focus on what they CAN do. Sure, a court can legally punt everything that is not absolutely perfect. And since nothing is perfect, everything could get punted. It’s just an effin GAME.
Courts could just as easily lean the other way and do their utmost to process EVERY case or at least the parts of a case they could. It is also a GRAVE error to reject cases (presumably on the basis of “standing”) simply because a court does not have the authority to grant the specific relief required. Sometimes the “front end” – just the discovery – is all that is needed. Sometimes a Declaratory Judgement is all that is needed. It is a “crime” to not process such cases as far as possible. If that does not satisfy the claimant, then they can go see relief elsewhere.
Courts are supposed to work for the people, not the establishment.
I WANT JUSTICE, AND I WANT IT NOW!
oldsalt79 | October 4, 2010 at 12:58 pm |
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Same for your M1 Garand Rifle, no? LOL
NOTE:
Not “best gun” but “best battle implement”!
THAT is a pretty bold statement.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | October 4, 2010 at 2:14 pm |
At least you understand why I questioned the response received.
I see a few things that could happen:
1. The SCOTUS takes this case, plus the cases of Berg and Kerchener.
2. The 5 justices make a decision that will define what is meant by NBC under the Constitution.
3. The justices throw these cases back through the lower courts declaring that there is standing.
None of these cases have been heard on their merits. In each case the justice has thrown out the case because of “standing”, which has been a way of avoiding the issue.
How can I saw if any of these cases are “flawed” since it seems that there is a legitimate request to get those documents into the public record.
However, that does not negate any other approach. One such approach belongs to Congress and the Republicans can do nothing until January next year at the earliest. That is they need to launch an investigation into Nancy Pelosi committing perjury by signing a document claiming that the fraud was NBC.
The other approach which is being tried and also without success is making complaints in each state where it is applicable. I have written here without success because so far there has been nothing going forward for investigation and heading into the courts.
We all agree that there has been a massive fraud. It needs to be cleared up in whatever way is possible. Skewering those responsible will be a very nasty business.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | October 4, 2010 at 2:33 pm |
Courts are supposed to work for the people, not the establishment.
I WANT JUSTICE, AND I WANT IT NOW!
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…and you would have it now, if only you and your fellow citizens, including me, had sufficiently understood our electoral process BEFORE the 2008 election cycle to enact appropriate laws regarding our state balloting process AND our Electors.
Pete | October 4, 2010 at 7:35 am |
[jbjd]
…why have a eligibility for POTUS requirement if their really is no Federal way to investigate and enforce such claims? Clearly, the seperation (sic) of powers would prevent the Executive Branch from vetting itself. Therefore, the legislative branch must have the sole power to investigate such a claim. However, the SCOTUS is mandated with primary jurisdiction over officers and diplomats…
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You miss the point I have been making for more than 2 (two) years now. If the Legislative Branch (state legislature) enacts a law saying, only candidates eligible for office can get their names on the ballot; and the Executive Branch (SoS) promulgates a rule saying s/he will check, which rule includes a listing of documentary evidence to show eligibility then, s/he is not saying, anyone without these documents is ineligible for office but rather, the candidate is ineligible to get on the ballot. Obviously, any candidate aggrieved by such decision would pursue all administrative (Executive Branch) remedies and then hit the courts (Judicial Branch). Let the candidate argue, qualifying for the ballot is the SAME as qualifying for office, and the SoS has no right to exclude a candidate for President based on his or her interpretation of qualifications. But remember, that won’t be enough; because in this case, the Claimant (the candidate) cannot establish, any definition is false. Whereas the Respondent (SoS) can establish by a preponderance of the evidence, s/he had a rational basis for defining qualifications in the way s/he did.
I am not presenting a legal treatise here but, the only way to obtain a definition of NBC that is legally binding on filling the office of President as opposed to just getting on the ballot; must come from an election related law spelling out what is meant by NBC. And this law will define terms with respect either to who gets on the ballot; or how state Electors may cast their votes. (‘You may only cast votes for a President who is Constitutionally qualified for the job.’)
jbjd | October 4, 2010 at 4:50 pm |
It is not the only way to get a legal definition of NBC. The other way should be through the Court system.
The SCOTUS has ruled in several cases regarding citizenship e.g. Kim Wong Ark (which is being misquoted by the other side), but the SCOTUS has not in fact ruled upon the definition of NBC for the purpose of POTUS.
This is one reason why the SCOTUS needs to hear a case, or cases, and thus make a ruling.
The definition of NBC with regard to qualification for POTUS is important. It is being watered down. Too many are claiming that a person who is a dual citizen can be POTUS when that was not the intention of your founding fathers. This is why the SCOTUS needs to intervene and hear those cases that are still alive.
The damage has already been done by the DNC with all of their subterfuge and fraud. Nancy Pelosi is the one that should be in the firing line. This is a separate issue from that of defining NBC.
The fact remains that there are people, such as Bobby Jindal, who should not be put forward as a POTUS candidate because they are not NBC. In Jindal’s case his parents were immigrants to the USA but he was born just after their arrival. His birth makes him an American citizen per Kim Wong Ark but it does not make him an NBC because his parents were not citizens at the time ofhis birth.
What if the RNC persists in trying to push Jindal as a candidate? Where will it end? If the SCOTUS makes a ruling on the subject, then at least the issue can be put to rest with regard to definition.
This does not negate the avenue that you have taken. Your avenue is just one of many things that need to happen so that this form of usurpation cannot happen again.