Blagojevich asks Judge Zagel to nullify conviction, Lying to FBI
From the Chicago Tribune September 14, 2010.
“Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich wants a judge to nullify the only conviction the jury returned in the Illinois Democrat’s mostly deadlocked corruption trial.
In a motion filed in federal court in Chicago late Monday, defense lawyers call on trial Judge James Zagel to override the jury’s decision and acquit Blagojevich of lying to the FBI. The attorneys say another option is for Zagel to set the conviction aside and try Blagojevich again on that charge.”
Read more:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-blagojevichtrial,0,2697557.story
Citizen WElls 
The findings should be nulified and the Judge should be removed. If a conviction is to be had, then the case should not go forward until a Judge that is not bought and paid for by Obama is appointed to hear the case. When a Judge denies the Defense the right to call witnesses that are relevant to a case( involved ) he therefore prevents a fair TRIAL. The Judge did exactly that by denying the White House Crowd to be called as witnesses.
May be most amazing video I ever saw?
This is SO WRONG and SO BIZARRE on so
many levels that it is hard to comprehend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-GK2s1iGWI
I don’t agree with everything Sarah Palin says or
does – but line up the same comments and concerns
against Zero – and WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE
SMOKING?
Why is it if you get a traffic ticket, you go to court over it, the police officer gets a court appointed lawyer, and you get no help? So our tax dollars are not used for we the people, only the corrupt government? So it turns out to be, 3 against 1? Is that what OUR founding fathers had in mind? At what point is the victim of a bogus ticket allowed to question the police?
New Children’s Book Coming from President Obama
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/09/new-childrens-book-coming-from-president-obama.html
Thi Obama Zone
Watch the media try to ignore this…
submitted by Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely (Ret.)
(Sept. 14, 2010) — The United States Patriots Union has been formed to represent the more than 70% of patriotic Americans who believe that this nation is headed in the wrong direction, who oppose the Obama administration’s policies and make up the 89% of Americans who think every member of congress should be fired.
We have come together to form a Veterans Council within The United States Patriots Union, for the purpose of unifying veterans all over the country in an organized effort to address all issues of great and ongoing concern to the veterans’ community.
We plan to address many different issues from this council looking forward, not the least of which is proper representation and defense of our men and women in uniform, those who have served with honor and distinction, and the families who have endured great sacrifices on behalf of freedom and liberty for all these many years.
Today’s statement relates specifically to the ongoing courts-martial of Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin.
September 3, 2010 – Upon receiving word that LTC Lakin would be denied any and all access to discovery and mitigating evidence needed to provide for a legitimate defense, a White Paper was prepared and released by The United States Patriots Union and The United States Bar Association, advising the Lakin defense team to immediately adjust its defense strategy in accordance with established history and law concerning Mr. Barack Obama’s constitutional authority as Commander-in-Chief. In short, to drop the search for an insignificant birth certificate and focus on the right question at hand.
We believe that there are only two potential outcomes of this courts-martial, and that both outcomes bring certain challenges. Our first priority must be to unite in defense of LTC Lakin in an effort to arrive at the best possible outcome for both Lakin and the nation.
1. LTC Lakin is found GUILTY of wrongfully refusing orders. With this outcome we get the following precedents.
a) Anyone, without so much as a birth certificate, can hold the office of President and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Military.
b) ALL soldiers must blindly follow orders, whether or not those orders are legal.
c) Not even a high-ranking officer has the right to challenge the lawfulness of the orders.
2. LTC Lakin is found NOT GUILTY of wrongfully refusing orders, as Barack Obama’s illegitimacy is confirmed, in which case the following precedents have been established.
a) Every soldier must make the same decision Lakin made, to follow or not to follow an illegal command.
b) The military chain of command is broken at the top of the chain.
c) Obama must be removed from office and there is no one in the normal line of succession to the Oval Office who can replace him, as they were all complicit in the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.
We believe that whether LTC Lakin is found guilty or not guilty in his courts-martial, our nation is in a full-scale national security crisis. This cannot be avoided by simply brushing the Lakin situation under the carpet as if the legitimacy of this administration and command has not been properly and repeatedly challenged.
The current Lakin defense strategy is limited to an ongoing search for a missing birth certificate that is of no real consequence, and they have been denied discovery access to any of Obama records, as well as anyone who has had access to those records. There is no defense for Lakin on this basis.
The Veterans Council of the United States Patriots Union has decided not to let LTC Lakin face these charges alone, without a proper defense. Following this statement, a 2nd White Paper concerning the Lakin courts-martial is being released. (Included below)
It is our opinion that the existing legal team representing LTC Lakin should be re-energized and reinforced immediately by a more experienced military legal team. We hope to offer the Lakin defense team additional legal talent that we believe will lead to a positive outcome for LTC Lakin, his family and our national security interests.
We are very concerned that continuing with the current defense strategy, the search for a birth certificate will likely end in the wrongful conviction of LTC Lakin, establishing a horrific and unnecessary precedent in the Courts-Martial system of the US Military, as described above. We feel obligated to do all that we can to avoid this outcome.
In an effort to support and assist the Lakin Team, The Veterans Council of the United States Patriots Union has worked to make available the best possible legal defense team capable of and willing to assist with the Lakin courts-martial defense.
We recognize that defense strategy decisions are ultimately in the hands of LTC Lakin. We hereby call upon the Lakin defense team to alter the defense strategy and to accept the assistance of additional defense counsel, which would lend its leadership to the case on behalf of LTC Lakin, the Armed Forces and the people of the United States of America.
We call upon patriots to engage and support this vital Veterans Council initiative by joining The United States Patriots Union. Veterans who wish to directly engage with and participate in The Veterans Council should apply to that division, once a member of USPU. A special defense fund may be established within the Veterans Council. The place for veterans to be heard is here, and the time is now.
It is imperative that all veterans support us now, by joining this effort within the Veterans Division of The United States Patriots Union.
Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely (Ret.) of the USPU Veterans Council can be reached at 406-249-1091 for further comment.
The Veterans Council
The United States Patriots Union, LLC
Sheridan, Wyoming
On behalf of the members of the Veterans Council:
Paul Vallely, Maj Gen (Ret), US Army
Harry Riley, Col (Ret), US Army
Carmen A. Reynolds, Lt Col (Ret), USAF
Debra A. Gunnoe, Lt Col (Ret), USAF
Greg Hollister, Lt Col (Ret), USAF
William Harker, Cmdr (Ret), USN
Bill Little, Cmdr (Ret), USN
John Johnson, 1st Lt (Ret), USAF
Luther B. Neff, Capt (Ret), USAF
Michael A. Trudell, Capt (Ret), USN
Fred Herndon, Capt (Ret), USAF
The United States Patriots Union, LLC
Sheridan, Wyoming
The Veterans Council
The United States Patriots Union, LLC
Sheridan, Wyoming
Researched and Reviewed By
The United States Bar Association
WTH isn’t that standard liberal procedure? It sounds to me like a page straight out of the liberal play book. After all Master Blago didn’t really do anything bad. He just didn’t know any better. He has stood in the corner and that should be enough punishment. If we overpunish such a great child mind it could cause all sorts of criminal mindset in this sweet little child.
Who knows such a gifted child could one day become the next Mayor of Chicago,and resume his childish little pranks in succession of Daley, where he can devise even more devilish PRANKS than simply trying to sell a senate seat. It is certainly conceiveable that he could indeed become the next mayor of Chicago. That would put him as llord and master over the worlds largest SEPTIC TANK.
Pixel Patriot……………………………………..
Your point is well taken,and I for one am in complete support of such a re inforcement of Colenel Lakin’s defense team. This is indeed a welcome development. First order of events ……..Shoot Lind out of the air. She is a KAMIKAZE.
Second order of events………change venue. Third order of events to make the Military trial a PUBLIC EVENT, and allow public in the courtroom to observe. Particularly Veterans. Next order of events to select a male nolder JAG member judge who will act in complete compliance with military (UCMJ) law. LInd did not. She incriminated herself as a member of the Soetoro GOON squad,and a KAMIKAZE, just as was Judge Bolton. in Arizona.
typo nolder= OLDER
oldsalt79 @ 4:11 pm |
Considering the Tea Party is so “young” because of all of the Reps, Dems, Inds-and no affiliation the Tea Party has become huge, we are such a mix of loyal Americans who are just trying to restore our Constitutional Republic.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/246526/who-s-showing-tea-party-jack-fowler
Who’s Showing Up at the Tea Party?
September 14, 2010 2:31 P.M. By Jack Fowler
Lots of Independents. The Sam Adams Alliance has done an interesting market-research study on the growth of the tea party and the make-up and impact of the so-called “Next Wave” — the new/recent entrants to the movement. Here are the highlights:
The longer a Tea Party activist is in the movement, the more likely they are to be optimistic about the political landscape.
Both Early Adopters and Next Wave activists were new to politics; 40.5 percent of Early Adopters and 43.6 percent of Next Wave activists said they were uninvolved/rarely involved with politics prior to their Tea Party involvement.
(more)
Fighting over ZERO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmMQAIVB3Bg
You betcha!
I beg to differ with MG Vallely….BO’s birth certificate is at the base of LTC Larkin’s refusal to obey BO’s orders.
If MG Vallely is saying LTC Larkin should abandon his quest for BO to establish his right to be CinC, exactly what defense could LTC Larkin have?
This country is in the mess and critical mass crisis now because BO is a Usurper to the office and perhaps not even a citizen of this country.
It is of paramount importance that BO’s records be reviled, otherwise America loses and BO will remain in office to completely destroy this country.
For MG Vallely to suggest LTC Larkin abandon his search for BO’s birth certificate is unthinkable. Terry Larkin knew when he invited his courts martial that all courts to date had refused to look at all cases questioning BO’s right to hold the office of POTUS according to the dictates of the United States Constitution.
Now LTC Terry Larkin has laid his carrer and his welfare on the line for all Americans. He has willing placed himself up as the FIRST political prisoner of this socialist dictator. Do we now expect him to roll over and play dead?
This case must continue as LTC Larkin has intended it too. With the restriction this military judge has placed against LTC Larkin’s right to discovery there should be no doubt to any intelligent reader that the military courts kangroo court will find him guilty.
THEN LTC LARKIN WILL HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AND BECOME THE ONLY MAN WITH STANDING TO QUESTION OBAMA ELGIBILITY.
LTC Larkin will then be stripped of rank, forfit all pay and allowances and sent to Fort Leavenworth where he will serve a sentence according to those who find him guilty. Then our military leaders will have just created it’s first (but not it’s last) DRAYFUS case.
Shame on America, shame on every veterans organization that has remained silent on this case, shame on every judge that wears a black robe, shame on ever politician who let this happen, shame on every office above the rank of LTC, shame on every media source who refuse to question the legality of Obama, and shame on every American who has refused to voice his or her opinion on this matter of critical importance.
As a retired veteran of 27 years, I am ashamed of our top military brass for what they have become a part of.
History should and will judge all accordingly.
God, what is happening to my America, our America and our America?
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
Pixel Patriot……………………………………..
Your point is well taken,and I for one am in complete support of such a re inforcement of Colenel Lakin’s defense team. This is indeed a welcome development. First order of events ……..Shoot Lind out of the air. She is a KAMIKAZE.
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I agree! This is indeed a good development, because it seems that in spite of worthy efforts on behalf of Lt.Col. Lakin, they are not working. There needs to be a change in the direction of the presentation of his case.
Imo, he needs to be proactive in stating that Obama is NOT eligible to be President and give “x, y and z” to prove his argument, instead of seeking information which TPTB are never going to give him. Let them bring Granny Sarah over from Kenya. She is supposed to be an eye witness, and according to some liberal lawyers, whose opinions I read from time to time, she would hold up in court. Likewise, Lucas Smith could have good information, although he would not be as strong a witness as G. Sarah, according to these same liberal legal minds. (I do like to expose myself to the other side from time to time to get more perspective. I “take it or leave it.”
Pixel Patriot @ 4:45 pm | You are a laugh riot. Actually in the end they are fighting over a great big fat NOTHING, which equals ZERO.
Pixel Patriot…………………………………………….
Your news has MADE MY DAY. Now Lakin will have a chance to prove his case. I have been quietly praying that such an organisation would come forward and put some teeth in his defense.
To General Vallely; I personally SALUTE you SIR. Coming to the defense of a injured soldier is the finest act of all. By your leave sir.
Pixel Patriot @ 3:32 pm |
Our military gets behind Lt. Col. Lakin, we get behind our military-they are our blood/families who would remain? Obama/Pelosi/Reid-worthless trinity that they are.
Is anyone going to answer my question?
RMinNC 4:46 PM
You say,
“….For MG Vallely to suggest LTC Larkin abandon his search for BO’s birth certificate is unthinkable. Terry Larkin knew when he invited his courts martial that all courts to date had refused to look at all cases questioning BO’s right to hold the office of POTUS according to the dictates of the United States Constitution.”
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It seems that the point is to change the course of action in getting the necessary information. As pointed out in my other post, I’ve been reading some legal opinions as to how to advance Lakin’s case. There is a total lockdown on releasing any of the information requested. We have seen that over and over again.
A different approach could achieve the desired results if Lakin’s defense would stop trying to get the documents and instead make the good case that Lakin believes Obama to be INELIGIBLE to be President period! Then proceed to prove it.
Wouldn’t this put the ball back into Judge Lind’s lap but from a different direction? She would no longer be asked for discovery. Lakin would demonstrate by all of the various ways that Obama is really a usurper. What has he got to lose? So far he has been completely rebuffed.
Andrew on Tea Party/ACORN/Lame Street Media
http://www.breitbart.tv/live-stream-912-protest-washington-dc/
Andrew Breitbart at 912 Rally: ‘I Want to Save the Country With You!’
I am not sure that there is such a thing as an international subpoena. It seems to me that at the very least it would be necessary to subpoena Sarah. I am betting that even if it was possible it would be blocked by the Soetoro GOON squad, and quite possibly with the assist of the State Department. But there is somebody right her in the US who may have DIRECT corroborating evidence. That is the lady presently living in Massachussets, on welfare who is also related to Soetoro. She should be quietly brought in and questioned by non GOON squad affiliation.
Margie | September 14, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
Is anyone going to answer my question?
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Margie, a number of years ago I was cited for a traffic violation which was disputable. I found that there was no restriction on pleading my case before the judge and the officer did not have an attorney either. So, that seemed totally fair in my case.
Old Salt – Granny Sarah might be “proud” to come over voluntarily?!? Kenya says that he is their son. Lucas Smith would be a willing witness but not as strong in some respects. What say you? (I’ve got to run right now but will be back later.)
If, and if,
Blago is not excused, worry not, blago and all his Chicgo pals will be given a full Pardon in 2012 when Obama leaves office, does not seek a re-run, Hillary runs in his place, and the annointed one heads off to Kenya to run as President there.
Thus trying to further his world citizenship claim. Just watch. Its coming.
RMinNC | September 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm |
I beg to differ with MG Vallely….BO’s birth certificate is at the base of LTC Larkin’s refusal to obey BO’s orders.
If MG Vallely is saying LTC Larkin should abandon his quest for BO to establish his right to be CinC, exactly what defense could LTC Larkin have?
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By definition, bo is NOT NBC. That defense should have been raised from the beginning. It is just too easy for bo to produce a forged BC that will fool most Americans. After all he fooled most Americans w.ith a poorly forged COLB posted only on the internet.
Furthermore, bo was adopted by Lolo and became an Indonesian citizen which also disqualifies bo to be POTUS.
Also, bo won the primary by fraud and that defense should be raised.
Obviously Col Lakin could use Gen Vallely assistance.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
RMin NC………………………………………………..
God Bless you sir for your stance on Lakin’s defense. I previously made a comment wherein I lauded the assistance from General Vallely,and the others. Perhaps I was a bit premature, but then again this may be something that has been misconstrued in transcribing. I have a big problem with them if this is in fact what they believe. It would then seem that they are trying to create an expedient of some sort. If that is the case then their help would be worthless,as you said. In fact it probably would be detrimental to his case. In this ploy I am beginning to see certain signs of complicity. I pray that I am wrong. Because it would confirm all of my suspicions against the upper brass,and now including retired brass.
Free Speech……………………………………..
I believe that RMin NC has a valid point, which it sounds as though you agree with,as do I. I have a big problem with General Vallely or somebody in his group even suggesting the abandonment of the BC angle. This smacks of somebody having reducated the RETIRED general. Further I find it even more difficult to believe that an officer of his magnitude and standing would even suggest such a move. To a point it sounds more like an ENEMY TRAP. When I first read the Comment I was so elated that somebody was trying to help Lakin that I overlooked what RM is suggesting. Now I have reread the article and even though it still sounds credible there seems to be a tiny barb prodding somewhere that needs to be blunted.
Cabby in Az…..
Without LTC Larkin given the right to examin documents establishing Obama’s lack of credentials to be POTUS what defense does Larkin Have?
It looks like to me we are playing a game of “what came first, the chicken or the egg in this case”.
Without proper and verifiable documents to prove Obama is a fake, then there is NO defense.
It would do no good to bring granny over from Kenya…Do we think for one moment she will say under oath that Obama was born in Kenya? I don’t think so, do you?
It would do no good to produce all the damaging acts Obama had committed against the American people to date. This type of information would never be permitted in court.
If LTC Larkin is NOT PERMITTED to view a valid and legal birth certificate for Obama, no defence or lawyer on earth could save him a guilty verdict.
Larkin knows this and I don’t think he will rest his quest for Obama’s birth certificate.
The only chance he has is to establish that Obama is a fake, a phony and a usurper to the office of POTUS (which everyone seems to know he is, except the military).
There is no doubt in my mind that LTC Larkin will be convicted according to the plans of the Defense Department, that he APPELL his courts martial on the overwhelming bias that Judge Land and company are establishing.
The BIG question that everyone should be asking themselves now is:
WILL THE SUPREME COURT ROLL OVER AND PLAY DEAD?
WILL THEY REFUSE TO HEAR THIS CASE ALTHOUGH THEY KNOW AN INJUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE AGAINST A BRAVE SOLDIER WHO TOOK HIS OATH OFFICE SERIOUSLY?
If the Supreme Court refuses ( as they have refused to look at the hundreds of other cases on this matter) to look at LTC Larkins Appeal of this case, then JUSTICE IN AMERICA will TRUELY be DEAD. WE THE PEOPLE will have our proof that LIVE UNDER A DICTATORSHIP government.
What happens to America at that point will be a toss up. Do we accept the chains of slavery imposed upon us, or do we act as patriots?
CabbyAZ…………………………….
There is one factor that you can count on with regard to Sarah. Whether she wanted to come to the US or not she would brobably find herself up against a stone wall created by her own blood. It is doubtful to me that she would even be allowed out of Kenya and it is even possible that she would find herself under house arrest at BOs request. Very doubtful!
typo brobably=PROBABLY
sorry for the typo’s but I think everyone can get my meaning on the last post.
Cabby.. thanks for responding. In my case he had an prosecuting atty. and a Judge. I had truth and lost. The light just turned yellow, and according to law…stop if you can do so safely, or proceed with caution. It was winter time, and icy. I find it no different then a criminal walking up to my car and robbing me.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
Free Speech……………………………………..
I believe that RMin NC has a valid point, which it sounds as though you agree with,as do I. I have a big problem with General Vallely or somebody in his group even suggesting the abandonment of the BC angle.
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Gen Vallely is not suggesting that Col Lakin abandon the BC defense, rather he is advocating that he broaden his defense to include the following:
By definition, bo is NOT NBC. That defense should have been raised from the beginning. It is just too easy for bo to produce a forged BC that will fool most Americans. After all he fooled most Americans w.ith a poorly forged COLB posted only on the internet.
Furthermore, bo was adopted by Lolo and became an Indonesian citizen which also disqualifies bo to be POTUS.
Also, bo won the primary by fraud and that defense should be raised.
Obviously Col Lakin could use Gen Vallely assistance.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
Stunningly Brilliant Article
All the pieces fit. The first essay I have read that makes any sense
on the subject of Obama’s formative years and what was formed.
It’s like – “Ohhhh, that explains EVERYTHING!”
(Of course his actions have told us many times over that he is
Un American and even Anti American, but this tells how and why.)
This is a long article, but well worth every minute spent on it. I don’t expect this to be controversial in the slightest. The only complaint anyone could have is not a disagreement, but that there is even more to the story. For them, this article will then be just a piece to the puzzle, not the whole thing. Oh, but what a whopping piece it is!
MY THEORY – BOTH PARTIES MADE A PACT WITH THE DEVIL WHEN IT BECAME PLAIN THAT McCAIN AND OBAMA WERE BOTH NOT NBC. THEY SOLD THEIR SOULS. THE TEA PARTY MUST ATTACK.
RMinNC,
I could be wrong, but I believe that LTC would have the right to take his case Straight to the Supreme Court, no appeals needed. He would also have Standing simply as at that time, he would be imprisioned. Thus his harm would be unique.
He knew this. And this is his personal scarifice, for us, for our military and for our constitution.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
Looks like Vallely is going for the NBC issue , in this case the defense would not need discovery . Prosecution would then have to show to the court how he is Constitutionally eligible for POTUS.
It’s Soetoro’s AKA Mr.X’s responsibility to prove who he is , now the court has the same obligation .
The Court already knows he’s not eligible so the defense will have LIND in a wedgie she’ll never forget.
Rmin NC……………………………..
I am sitting squarely on the same page as you are. I think that Lakin needs a great deal of experienced UCMJ lawyers who are willing to push the envelope, and take the OFFENSIVE. I believe that LIND will come apart at the waterline if she is put up against a REAL offense. I believe that she is nothing more than a KAMIKAZE who Soetoro thinks is capable of handling the matter. We need a team of lawyers who can shoot her out of the air in one shot. Such lawyers exist. It is only a matter of finding those who get really pissed off when a fellow officer is unfairly treated by little snot nosed MMMMSSSS IMPORTANTS. She needs to discover that there are those on earth who are willing to run the gammit in Lakin’s defense. She needs to learn it the HARD WAY.
I seems very strange to me that again we are discussing all these ways to help LtC Lakin prove or imply that Zero is ineligible. As a result of the last hearing, Zero has been cleanly swept off the table. NOTHING about Zero is of any importance. The judge Ruled? Declared? Stipulated? that orders come from the Pentagon, not CinC.
Until that “little” hurdle is overcome, all our helpful ideas and Gen Valley, etc. etc. are all just pizzing into the wind.
What’s this about? “Harry Reid”, has invited Dr. Orly Taitz to a Dinner reception with Obama !!!!! All the “big guns” of the Democratic Party in attendance. I guess the “ink” is now dry. You’ll need to scroll down on the page as I couldn’t pick up the header. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com
Army DAV that is indeed part of my point when I say she needs to learn what a real offense is the hard way. To me she is but a SNOT NOSED LITTLE school girl, walking around in MOMMY’S shoes. She has had one or two simple trials under her belt and now Soetoro thinks she can SINK Lakin. She is nothing more than an expendable KAMIKAZE. I personally think that a good criminal lawyer with a little anger could take her out of the air without much difficulty at all.
Once again Citizen Carlyle/bo shows his false flag colors:
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Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 14, 2010 at 6:06 pm |
I seems very strange to me that again we are discussing all these ways to help LtC Lakin prove or imply that Zero is ineligible…all our helpful ideas and Gen Valley, etc. etc. are all just pizzing into the wind.
“Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 1, 2010 at 2:53 pm |
“…we have to lay off the “birther” business…”
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 2, 2010 at 6:27 pm |
… nothing horrible has happened in two years, so another two years – not so bad.’’
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 1, 2010 at 9:00 pm |
‘’YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT HE IS FOREIGN BORN. EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW FOR SURE, YOU DON’T COUNT. YOU ARE NOT THE DECIDER. THE DECIDERS BELIEVE HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.
There is no current legally binding definition of NBC
The One…will not ever be taken down on the NBC issue…’’
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 3, 2010 at 1:21 pm |
”The Nail in Lakin’s Coffin..
… orders come from the Pentagon, not the CiC…
“That nails it. It totally derails Lakin’s case and totally removes Zero from the discussion. In fact: END OF DISCUSSION!”
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm |
we cannot…rely on “constitution says I have a right to do this or that”. The leaders and decision makers give not a fig for that.
The “birthers” have been beat. They have finally been ground into the silly putty… You can’t win a war if you don’t recognize when a battle has been lost – and it is time to retreat…
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 6, 2010 at 12:51 am |
“I am convinced… that whether or not Zero is eligible is no big deal either way… there is no down side to Zero being ineligible and there are serious potential repercussions if he is formally kicked out for this single reason.”
FUBO ………………………….
, While I respect your candor I wish to qualify the fact that all military orders MAY ORIGINATE at the PENTAGON they are autonmatically the orders of the CINC as well.. It is exactly as if HE GAVE the ORDER and the BUCK DOES indeed stop with him. I would strongly suggest that anyone who has ever been in the military knows this. The Pentagon does give some orders dependent upon echelon of importance, but they DO NOT GIVE ORDERS TO THE CINC. If that is what you are implying YOU ARE WRONG SIR.
“How Obama Thinks”
Dinesh D’Souza, 09.09.10, 05:40 PM EDT
Forbes Magazine dated September 27, 2010
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-socialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-business-problem.html
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2010/09/14/thats-why-theyre-called-crushes/
“Obama’s public persona is so predictable and his image so overexposed that even the left is over him. He’s gone from fascinating and cool to a crashing bore in less than two years. . . . Obama was in essence the latest trend, equivalent to this season’s fashion or the newest cell phone, which they had to have. But trends by definition come and go.” h/t Instapundit
James | September 14, 2010 at 6:06 pm |
What’s this about? “Harry Reid”, has invited Dr. Orly Taitz to a Dinner reception with Obama !!!!!
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Isn’t it obvious?
You are totally wrong FUBO. The fight has not yet even begun. I would not want you in my platoon if you were to lay down in the face of the enemy and whine that we are defeated. I would be forced as a fellow soldier to take action against you particularly in the heat of ongoing combat. General Patton simply slapped the face of a coward, I believe that if he was alive today and found a coward in his midst he might become incensed enough to take a much more stringent correction. That is one reason why the term “DEAD HERO” was coined. They did NOT lay down and whine that they were beaten; they took a lot of the enemy with them, and in so doing helped our cause immeasurably. They are indeed heros,and will forever be heros.
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Blagojevich asks Judge Zagel to nullify conviction, Lying to FBI
Posted on September 14, 2010 by citizenwells| 47 Comments
Blagojevich asks Judge Zagel to nullify conviction, Lying to FBI
From the Chicago Tribune September 14, 2010.
“Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich wants a judge to nullify the only conviction the jury returned in the Illinois Democrat’s mostly deadlocked corruption trial.
In a motion filed in federal court in Chicago late Monday, defense lawyers call on trial Judge James Zagel to override the jury’s decision and acquit Blagojevich of lying to the FBI. The attorneys say another option is for Zagel to set the conviction aside and try Blagojevich again on that charge.”
Read more:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-blagojevichtrial,0,2697557.story
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Joy | September 14, 2010 at 12:52 pm |
The findings should be nulified and the Judge should be removed. If a conviction is to be had, then the case should not go forward until a Judge that is not bought and paid for by Obama is appointed to hear the case. When a Judge denies the Defense the right to call witnesses that are relevant to a case( involved ) he therefore prevents a fair TRIAL. The Judge did exactly that by denying the White House Crowd to be called as witnesses.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 14, 2010 at 1:27 pm |
May be most amazing video I ever saw?
This is SO WRONG and SO BIZARRE on so
many levels that it is hard to comprehend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-GK2s1iGWI
I don’t agree with everything Sarah Palin says or
does – but line up the same comments and concerns
against Zero – and WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE
SMOKING?
Margie | September 14, 2010 at 2:14 pm |
Why is it if you get a traffic ticket, you go to court over it, the police officer gets a court appointed lawyer, and you get no help? So our tax dollars are not used for we the people, only the corrupt government? So it turns out to be, 3 against 1? Is that what OUR founding fathers had in mind? At what point is the victim of a bogus ticket allowed to question the police?
LM | September 14, 2010 at 2:49 pm |
New Children’s Book Coming from President Obama
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/09/new-childrens-book-coming-from-president-obama.html
LM | September 14, 2010 at 3:18 pm |
Thi Obama Zone
Pixel Patriot | September 14, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
Watch the media try to ignore this…
submitted by Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely (Ret.)
(Sept. 14, 2010) — The United States Patriots Union has been formed to represent the more than 70% of patriotic Americans who believe that this nation is headed in the wrong direction, who oppose the Obama administration’s policies and make up the 89% of Americans who think every member of congress should be fired.
We have come together to form a Veterans Council within The United States Patriots Union, for the purpose of unifying veterans all over the country in an organized effort to address all issues of great and ongoing concern to the veterans’ community.
We plan to address many different issues from this council looking forward, not the least of which is proper representation and defense of our men and women in uniform, those who have served with honor and distinction, and the families who have endured great sacrifices on behalf of freedom and liberty for all these many years.
Today’s statement relates specifically to the ongoing courts-martial of Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin.
September 3, 2010 – Upon receiving word that LTC Lakin would be denied any and all access to discovery and mitigating evidence needed to provide for a legitimate defense, a White Paper was prepared and released by The United States Patriots Union and The United States Bar Association, advising the Lakin defense team to immediately adjust its defense strategy in accordance with established history and law concerning Mr. Barack Obama’s constitutional authority as Commander-in-Chief. In short, to drop the search for an insignificant birth certificate and focus on the right question at hand.
We believe that there are only two potential outcomes of this courts-martial, and that both outcomes bring certain challenges. Our first priority must be to unite in defense of LTC Lakin in an effort to arrive at the best possible outcome for both Lakin and the nation.
1. LTC Lakin is found GUILTY of wrongfully refusing orders. With this outcome we get the following precedents.
a) Anyone, without so much as a birth certificate, can hold the office of President and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Military.
b) ALL soldiers must blindly follow orders, whether or not those orders are legal.
c) Not even a high-ranking officer has the right to challenge the lawfulness of the orders.
2. LTC Lakin is found NOT GUILTY of wrongfully refusing orders, as Barack Obama’s illegitimacy is confirmed, in which case the following precedents have been established.
a) Every soldier must make the same decision Lakin made, to follow or not to follow an illegal command.
b) The military chain of command is broken at the top of the chain.
c) Obama must be removed from office and there is no one in the normal line of succession to the Oval Office who can replace him, as they were all complicit in the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.
We believe that whether LTC Lakin is found guilty or not guilty in his courts-martial, our nation is in a full-scale national security crisis. This cannot be avoided by simply brushing the Lakin situation under the carpet as if the legitimacy of this administration and command has not been properly and repeatedly challenged.
The current Lakin defense strategy is limited to an ongoing search for a missing birth certificate that is of no real consequence, and they have been denied discovery access to any of Obama records, as well as anyone who has had access to those records. There is no defense for Lakin on this basis.
The Veterans Council of the United States Patriots Union has decided not to let LTC Lakin face these charges alone, without a proper defense. Following this statement, a 2nd White Paper concerning the Lakin courts-martial is being released. (Included below)
It is our opinion that the existing legal team representing LTC Lakin should be re-energized and reinforced immediately by a more experienced military legal team. We hope to offer the Lakin defense team additional legal talent that we believe will lead to a positive outcome for LTC Lakin, his family and our national security interests.
We are very concerned that continuing with the current defense strategy, the search for a birth certificate will likely end in the wrongful conviction of LTC Lakin, establishing a horrific and unnecessary precedent in the Courts-Martial system of the US Military, as described above. We feel obligated to do all that we can to avoid this outcome.
In an effort to support and assist the Lakin Team, The Veterans Council of the United States Patriots Union has worked to make available the best possible legal defense team capable of and willing to assist with the Lakin courts-martial defense.
We recognize that defense strategy decisions are ultimately in the hands of LTC Lakin. We hereby call upon the Lakin defense team to alter the defense strategy and to accept the assistance of additional defense counsel, which would lend its leadership to the case on behalf of LTC Lakin, the Armed Forces and the people of the United States of America.
We call upon patriots to engage and support this vital Veterans Council initiative by joining The United States Patriots Union. Veterans who wish to directly engage with and participate in The Veterans Council should apply to that division, once a member of USPU. A special defense fund may be established within the Veterans Council. The place for veterans to be heard is here, and the time is now.
It is imperative that all veterans support us now, by joining this effort within the Veterans Division of The United States Patriots Union.
Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely (Ret.) of the USPU Veterans Council can be reached at 406-249-1091 for further comment.
The Veterans Council
The United States Patriots Union, LLC
Sheridan, Wyoming
On behalf of the members of the Veterans Council:
Paul Vallely, Maj Gen (Ret), US Army
Harry Riley, Col (Ret), US Army
Carmen A. Reynolds, Lt Col (Ret), USAF
Debra A. Gunnoe, Lt Col (Ret), USAF
Greg Hollister, Lt Col (Ret), USAF
William Harker, Cmdr (Ret), USN
Bill Little, Cmdr (Ret), USN
John Johnson, 1st Lt (Ret), USAF
Luther B. Neff, Capt (Ret), USAF
Michael A. Trudell, Capt (Ret), USN
Fred Herndon, Capt (Ret), USAF
The United States Patriots Union, LLC
Sheridan, Wyoming
The Veterans Council
The United States Patriots Union, LLC
Sheridan, Wyoming
Researched and Reviewed By
The United States Bar Association
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:03 pm |
WTH isn’t that standard liberal procedure? It sounds to me like a page straight out of the liberal play book. After all Master Blago didn’t really do anything bad. He just didn’t know any better. He has stood in the corner and that should be enough punishment. If we overpunish such a great child mind it could cause all sorts of criminal mindset in this sweet little child.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:11 pm |
Who knows such a gifted child could one day become the next Mayor of Chicago,and resume his childish little pranks in succession of Daley, where he can devise even more devilish PRANKS than simply trying to sell a senate seat. It is certainly conceiveable that he could indeed become the next mayor of Chicago. That would put him as llord and master over the worlds largest SEPTIC TANK.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
Pixel Patriot……………………………………..
Your point is well taken,and I for one am in complete support of such a re inforcement of Colenel Lakin’s defense team. This is indeed a welcome development. First order of events ……..Shoot Lind out of the air. She is a KAMIKAZE.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:35 pm |
Second order of events………change venue. Third order of events to make the Military trial a PUBLIC EVENT, and allow public in the courtroom to observe. Particularly Veterans. Next order of events to select a male nolder JAG member judge who will act in complete compliance with military (UCMJ) law. LInd did not. She incriminated herself as a member of the Soetoro GOON squad,and a KAMIKAZE, just as was Judge Bolton. in Arizona.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:36 pm |
typo nolder= OLDER
Michelle | September 14, 2010 at 4:42 pm |
oldsalt79 @ 4:11 pm |
Considering the Tea Party is so “young” because of all of the Reps, Dems, Inds-and no affiliation the Tea Party has become huge, we are such a mix of loyal Americans who are just trying to restore our Constitutional Republic.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/246526/who-s-showing-tea-party-jack-fowler
Who’s Showing Up at the Tea Party?
September 14, 2010 2:31 P.M. By Jack Fowler
Lots of Independents. The Sam Adams Alliance has done an interesting market-research study on the growth of the tea party and the make-up and impact of the so-called “Next Wave” — the new/recent entrants to the movement. Here are the highlights:
The longer a Tea Party activist is in the movement, the more likely they are to be optimistic about the political landscape.
Both Early Adopters and Next Wave activists were new to politics; 40.5 percent of Early Adopters and 43.6 percent of Next Wave activists said they were uninvolved/rarely involved with politics prior to their Tea Party involvement.
(more)
Pixel Patriot | September 14, 2010 at 4:45 pm |
Fighting over ZERO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmMQAIVB3Bg
You betcha!
RMinNC | September 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm |
I beg to differ with MG Vallely….BO’s birth certificate is at the base of LTC Larkin’s refusal to obey BO’s orders.
If MG Vallely is saying LTC Larkin should abandon his quest for BO to establish his right to be CinC, exactly what defense could LTC Larkin have?
This country is in the mess and critical mass crisis now because BO is a Usurper to the office and perhaps not even a citizen of this country.
It is of paramount importance that BO’s records be reviled, otherwise America loses and BO will remain in office to completely destroy this country.
For MG Vallely to suggest LTC Larkin abandon his search for BO’s birth certificate is unthinkable. Terry Larkin knew when he invited his courts martial that all courts to date had refused to look at all cases questioning BO’s right to hold the office of POTUS according to the dictates of the United States Constitution.
Now LTC Terry Larkin has laid his carrer and his welfare on the line for all Americans. He has willing placed himself up as the FIRST political prisoner of this socialist dictator. Do we now expect him to roll over and play dead?
This case must continue as LTC Larkin has intended it too. With the restriction this military judge has placed against LTC Larkin’s right to discovery there should be no doubt to any intelligent reader that the military courts kangroo court will find him guilty.
THEN LTC LARKIN WILL HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AND BECOME THE ONLY MAN WITH STANDING TO QUESTION OBAMA ELGIBILITY.
LTC Larkin will then be stripped of rank, forfit all pay and allowances and sent to Fort Leavenworth where he will serve a sentence according to those who find him guilty. Then our military leaders will have just created it’s first (but not it’s last) DRAYFUS case.
Shame on America, shame on every veterans organization that has remained silent on this case, shame on every judge that wears a black robe, shame on ever politician who let this happen, shame on every office above the rank of LTC, shame on every media source who refuse to question the legality of Obama, and shame on every American who has refused to voice his or her opinion on this matter of critical importance.
As a retired veteran of 27 years, I am ashamed of our top military brass for what they have become a part of.
History should and will judge all accordingly.
God, what is happening to my America, our America and our America?
Cabby – AZ | September 14, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
Pixel Patriot……………………………………..
Your point is well taken,and I for one am in complete support of such a re inforcement of Colenel Lakin’s defense team. This is indeed a welcome development. First order of events ……..Shoot Lind out of the air. She is a KAMIKAZE.
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I agree! This is indeed a good development, because it seems that in spite of worthy efforts on behalf of Lt.Col. Lakin, they are not working. There needs to be a change in the direction of the presentation of his case.
Imo, he needs to be proactive in stating that Obama is NOT eligible to be President and give “x, y and z” to prove his argument, instead of seeking information which TPTB are never going to give him. Let them bring Granny Sarah over from Kenya. She is supposed to be an eye witness, and according to some liberal lawyers, whose opinions I read from time to time, she would hold up in court. Likewise, Lucas Smith could have good information, although he would not be as strong a witness as G. Sarah, according to these same liberal legal minds. (I do like to expose myself to the other side from time to time to get more perspective. I “take it or leave it.”
Michelle | September 14, 2010 at 4:48 pm |
Pixel Patriot @ 4:45 pm | You are a laugh riot. Actually in the end they are fighting over a great big fat NOTHING, which equals ZERO.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 4:49 pm |
Pixel Patriot…………………………………………….
Your news has MADE MY DAY. Now Lakin will have a chance to prove his case. I have been quietly praying that such an organisation would come forward and put some teeth in his defense.
To General Vallely; I personally SALUTE you SIR. Coming to the defense of a injured soldier is the finest act of all. By your leave sir.
Michelle | September 14, 2010 at 4:51 pm |
Pixel Patriot @ 3:32 pm |
Our military gets behind Lt. Col. Lakin, we get behind our military-they are our blood/families who would remain? Obama/Pelosi/Reid-worthless trinity that they are.
Margie | September 14, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
Is anyone going to answer my question?
Cabby – AZ | September 14, 2010 at 4:58 pm |
RMinNC 4:46 PM
You say,
“….For MG Vallely to suggest LTC Larkin abandon his search for BO’s birth certificate is unthinkable. Terry Larkin knew when he invited his courts martial that all courts to date had refused to look at all cases questioning BO’s right to hold the office of POTUS according to the dictates of the United States Constitution.”
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It seems that the point is to change the course of action in getting the necessary information. As pointed out in my other post, I’ve been reading some legal opinions as to how to advance Lakin’s case. There is a total lockdown on releasing any of the information requested. We have seen that over and over again.
A different approach could achieve the desired results if Lakin’s defense would stop trying to get the documents and instead make the good case that Lakin believes Obama to be INELIGIBLE to be President period! Then proceed to prove it.
Wouldn’t this put the ball back into Judge Lind’s lap but from a different direction? She would no longer be asked for discovery. Lakin would demonstrate by all of the various ways that Obama is really a usurper. What has he got to lose? So far he has been completely rebuffed.
Michelle | September 14, 2010 at 4:59 pm |
Andrew on Tea Party/ACORN/Lame Street Media
http://www.breitbart.tv/live-stream-912-protest-washington-dc/
Andrew Breitbart at 912 Rally: ‘I Want to Save the Country With You!’
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:01 pm |
I am not sure that there is such a thing as an international subpoena. It seems to me that at the very least it would be necessary to subpoena Sarah. I am betting that even if it was possible it would be blocked by the Soetoro GOON squad, and quite possibly with the assist of the State Department. But there is somebody right her in the US who may have DIRECT corroborating evidence. That is the lady presently living in Massachussets, on welfare who is also related to Soetoro. She should be quietly brought in and questioned by non GOON squad affiliation.
Cabby – AZ | September 14, 2010 at 5:03 pm |
Margie | September 14, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
Is anyone going to answer my question?
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Margie, a number of years ago I was cited for a traffic violation which was disputable. I found that there was no restriction on pleading my case before the judge and the officer did not have an attorney either. So, that seemed totally fair in my case.
Cabby – AZ | September 14, 2010 at 5:07 pm |
Old Salt – Granny Sarah might be “proud” to come over voluntarily?!? Kenya says that he is their son. Lucas Smith would be a willing witness but not as strong in some respects. What say you? (I’ve got to run right now but will be back later.)
SirWilliam | September 14, 2010 at 5:08 pm |
If, and if,
Blago is not excused, worry not, blago and all his Chicgo pals will be given a full Pardon in 2012 when Obama leaves office, does not seek a re-run, Hillary runs in his place, and the annointed one heads off to Kenya to run as President there.
Thus trying to further his world citizenship claim. Just watch. Its coming.
Free Speech | September 14, 2010 at 5:16 pm |
RMinNC | September 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm |
I beg to differ with MG Vallely….BO’s birth certificate is at the base of LTC Larkin’s refusal to obey BO’s orders.
If MG Vallely is saying LTC Larkin should abandon his quest for BO to establish his right to be CinC, exactly what defense could LTC Larkin have?
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By definition, bo is NOT NBC. That defense should have been raised from the beginning. It is just too easy for bo to produce a forged BC that will fool most Americans. After all he fooled most Americans w.ith a poorly forged COLB posted only on the internet.
Furthermore, bo was adopted by Lolo and became an Indonesian citizen which also disqualifies bo to be POTUS.
Also, bo won the primary by fraud and that defense should be raised.
Obviously Col Lakin could use Gen Vallely assistance.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
RMin NC………………………………………………..
God Bless you sir for your stance on Lakin’s defense. I previously made a comment wherein I lauded the assistance from General Vallely,and the others. Perhaps I was a bit premature, but then again this may be something that has been misconstrued in transcribing. I have a big problem with them if this is in fact what they believe. It would then seem that they are trying to create an expedient of some sort. If that is the case then their help would be worthless,as you said. In fact it probably would be detrimental to his case. In this ploy I am beginning to see certain signs of complicity. I pray that I am wrong. Because it would confirm all of my suspicions against the upper brass,and now including retired brass.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
Free Speech……………………………………..
I believe that RMin NC has a valid point, which it sounds as though you agree with,as do I. I have a big problem with General Vallely or somebody in his group even suggesting the abandonment of the BC angle. This smacks of somebody having reducated the RETIRED general. Further I find it even more difficult to believe that an officer of his magnitude and standing would even suggest such a move. To a point it sounds more like an ENEMY TRAP. When I first read the Comment I was so elated that somebody was trying to help Lakin that I overlooked what RM is suggesting. Now I have reread the article and even though it still sounds credible there seems to be a tiny barb prodding somewhere that needs to be blunted.
RMinNC | September 14, 2010 at 5:39 pm |
Cabby in Az…..
Without LTC Larkin given the right to examin documents establishing Obama’s lack of credentials to be POTUS what defense does Larkin Have?
It looks like to me we are playing a game of “what came first, the chicken or the egg in this case”.
Without proper and verifiable documents to prove Obama is a fake, then there is NO defense.
It would do no good to bring granny over from Kenya…Do we think for one moment she will say under oath that Obama was born in Kenya? I don’t think so, do you?
It would do no good to produce all the damaging acts Obama had committed against the American people to date. This type of information would never be permitted in court.
If LTC Larkin is NOT PERMITTED to view a valid and legal birth certificate for Obama, no defence or lawyer on earth could save him a guilty verdict.
Larkin knows this and I don’t think he will rest his quest for Obama’s birth certificate.
The only chance he has is to establish that Obama is a fake, a phony and a usurper to the office of POTUS (which everyone seems to know he is, except the military).
There is no doubt in my mind that LTC Larkin will be convicted according to the plans of the Defense Department, that he APPELL his courts martial on the overwhelming bias that Judge Land and company are establishing.
The BIG question that everyone should be asking themselves now is:
WILL THE SUPREME COURT ROLL OVER AND PLAY DEAD?
WILL THEY REFUSE TO HEAR THIS CASE ALTHOUGH THEY KNOW AN INJUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE AGAINST A BRAVE SOLDIER WHO TOOK HIS OATH OFFICE SERIOUSLY?
If the Supreme Court refuses ( as they have refused to look at the hundreds of other cases on this matter) to look at LTC Larkins Appeal of this case, then JUSTICE IN AMERICA will TRUELY be DEAD. WE THE PEOPLE will have our proof that LIVE UNDER A DICTATORSHIP government.
What happens to America at that point will be a toss up. Do we accept the chains of slavery imposed upon us, or do we act as patriots?
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:39 pm |
CabbyAZ…………………………….
There is one factor that you can count on with regard to Sarah. Whether she wanted to come to the US or not she would brobably find herself up against a stone wall created by her own blood. It is doubtful to me that she would even be allowed out of Kenya and it is even possible that she would find herself under house arrest at BOs request. Very doubtful!
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:40 pm |
typo brobably=PROBABLY
RMinNC | September 14, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
sorry for the typo’s but I think everyone can get my meaning on the last post.
Margie | September 14, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
Cabby.. thanks for responding. In my case he had an prosecuting atty. and a Judge. I had truth and lost. The light just turned yellow, and according to law…stop if you can do so safely, or proceed with caution. It was winter time, and icy. I find it no different then a criminal walking up to my car and robbing me.
Free Speech | September 14, 2010 at 5:52 pm |
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
Free Speech……………………………………..
I believe that RMin NC has a valid point, which it sounds as though you agree with,as do I. I have a big problem with General Vallely or somebody in his group even suggesting the abandonment of the BC angle.
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Gen Vallely is not suggesting that Col Lakin abandon the BC defense, rather he is advocating that he broaden his defense to include the following:
By definition, bo is NOT NBC. That defense should have been raised from the beginning. It is just too easy for bo to produce a forged BC that will fool most Americans. After all he fooled most Americans w.ith a poorly forged COLB posted only on the internet.
Furthermore, bo was adopted by Lolo and became an Indonesian citizen which also disqualifies bo to be POTUS.
Also, bo won the primary by fraud and that defense should be raised.
Obviously Col Lakin could use Gen Vallely assistance.
http://standupamericaus.com/our-privilege-our-right-and-our-duty-civilian-grand-jury:33320
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 14, 2010 at 5:54 pm |
Stunningly Brilliant Article
All the pieces fit. The first essay I have read that makes any sense
on the subject of Obama’s formative years and what was formed.
It’s like – “Ohhhh, that explains EVERYTHING!”
(Of course his actions have told us many times over that he is
Un American and even Anti American, but this tells how and why.)
How Obama Thinks
Dinesh D’Souza, 09.09.10, 05:40 PM EDT
Forbes Magazine dated September 27, 2010
The President isn’t exactly a socialist. So what’s driving
his hostility to private enterprise? Look to his roots.
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-socialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-business-problem.html
This is a long article, but well worth every minute spent on it. I don’t expect this to be controversial in the slightest. The only complaint anyone could have is not a disagreement, but that there is even more to the story. For them, this article will then be just a piece to the puzzle, not the whole thing. Oh, but what a whopping piece it is!
ms. helga | September 14, 2010 at 5:55 pm |
MY THEORY – BOTH PARTIES MADE A PACT WITH THE DEVIL WHEN IT BECAME PLAIN THAT McCAIN AND OBAMA WERE BOTH NOT NBC. THEY SOLD THEIR SOULS. THE TEA PARTY MUST ATTACK.
SirWilliam | September 14, 2010 at 5:58 pm |
RMinNC,
I could be wrong, but I believe that LTC would have the right to take his case Straight to the Supreme Court, no appeals needed. He would also have Standing simply as at that time, he would be imprisioned. Thus his harm would be unique.
He knew this. And this is his personal scarifice, for us, for our military and for our constitution.
ARMY D.A.V. | September 14, 2010 at 6:00 pm |
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
Looks like Vallely is going for the NBC issue , in this case the defense would not need discovery . Prosecution would then have to show to the court how he is Constitutionally eligible for POTUS.
It’s Soetoro’s AKA Mr.X’s responsibility to prove who he is , now the court has the same obligation .
The Court already knows he’s not eligible so the defense will have LIND in a wedgie she’ll never forget.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 6:04 pm |
Rmin NC……………………………..
I am sitting squarely on the same page as you are. I think that Lakin needs a great deal of experienced UCMJ lawyers who are willing to push the envelope, and take the OFFENSIVE. I believe that LIND will come apart at the waterline if she is put up against a REAL offense. I believe that she is nothing more than a KAMIKAZE who Soetoro thinks is capable of handling the matter. We need a team of lawyers who can shoot her out of the air in one shot. Such lawyers exist. It is only a matter of finding those who get really pissed off when a fellow officer is unfairly treated by little snot nosed MMMMSSSS IMPORTANTS. She needs to discover that there are those on earth who are willing to run the gammit in Lakin’s defense. She needs to learn it the HARD WAY.
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 14, 2010 at 6:06 pm |
I seems very strange to me that again we are discussing all these ways to help LtC Lakin prove or imply that Zero is ineligible. As a result of the last hearing, Zero has been cleanly swept off the table. NOTHING about Zero is of any importance. The judge Ruled? Declared? Stipulated? that orders come from the Pentagon, not CinC.
Until that “little” hurdle is overcome, all our helpful ideas and Gen Valley, etc. etc. are all just pizzing into the wind.
James | September 14, 2010 at 6:06 pm |
What’s this about? “Harry Reid”, has invited Dr. Orly Taitz to a Dinner reception with Obama !!!!! All the “big guns” of the Democratic Party in attendance. I guess the “ink” is now dry. You’ll need to scroll down on the page as I couldn’t pick up the header. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 6:12 pm |
Army DAV that is indeed part of my point when I say she needs to learn what a real offense is the hard way. To me she is but a SNOT NOSED LITTLE school girl, walking around in MOMMY’S shoes. She has had one or two simple trials under her belt and now Soetoro thinks she can SINK Lakin. She is nothing more than an expendable KAMIKAZE. I personally think that a good criminal lawyer with a little anger could take her out of the air without much difficulty at all.
Free Speech | September 14, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
Once again Citizen Carlyle/bo shows his false flag colors:
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Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 14, 2010 at 6:06 pm |
I seems very strange to me that again we are discussing all these ways to help LtC Lakin prove or imply that Zero is ineligible…all our helpful ideas and Gen Valley, etc. etc. are all just pizzing into the wind.
“Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 1, 2010 at 2:53 pm |
“…we have to lay off the “birther” business…”
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 2, 2010 at 6:27 pm |
… nothing horrible has happened in two years, so another two years – not so bad.’’
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 1, 2010 at 9:00 pm |
‘’YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT HE IS FOREIGN BORN. EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW FOR SURE, YOU DON’T COUNT. YOU ARE NOT THE DECIDER. THE DECIDERS BELIEVE HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.
There is no current legally binding definition of NBC
The One…will not ever be taken down on the NBC issue…’’
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 3, 2010 at 1:21 pm |
”The Nail in Lakin’s Coffin..
… orders come from the Pentagon, not the CiC…
“That nails it. It totally derails Lakin’s case and totally removes Zero from the discussion. In fact: END OF DISCUSSION!”
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm |
we cannot…rely on “constitution says I have a right to do this or that”. The leaders and decision makers give not a fig for that.
The “birthers” have been beat. They have finally been ground into the silly putty… You can’t win a war if you don’t recognize when a battle has been lost – and it is time to retreat…
Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | September 6, 2010 at 12:51 am |
“I am convinced… that whether or not Zero is eligible is no big deal either way… there is no down side to Zero being ineligible and there are serious potential repercussions if he is formally kicked out for this single reason.”
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 6:23 pm |
FUBO …………………………. I wish to qualify the fact that all military orders MAY ORIGINATE at the PENTAGON they are autonmatically the orders of the CINC as well.. It is exactly as if HE GAVE the ORDER and the BUCK DOES indeed stop with him. I would strongly suggest that anyone who has ever been in the military knows this… YOU ARE WRONG SIR.
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Of course, citizen carlyle/bo is WRONG!
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 6:23 pm |
FUBO …………………………. I wish to qualify the fact that all military orders MAY ORIGINATE at the PENTAGON they are autonmatically the orders of the CINC as well.. It is exactly as if HE GAVE the ORDER and the BUCK DOES indeed stop with him. I would strongly suggest that anyone who has ever been in the military knows this… YOU ARE WRONG SIR.
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Of course, citizen carlyle/bo is WRONG!
aaahhhh, I need to put a damper on this lovefest with Vallely. He wrote this paper about the need for MKUltra straight out of Gottlieb’s Paperclip and Artichoke plans. Sorry. I don’t trust the man.
As CC always says, verify your sources. This is one source I’m afraid to say is one I do not wish to trust. Anyone, and I mean anyone, involved in Gottleib’s mad science is no friend of mine nor one in which I wish to put the LT Col. fate in.
http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-296.html
Free Speech……………………..
Perhaps he has a little surprise party planned behind closed doors whereby she receives her marching orders. Will she melt,or will they shrink her head? She is a White Russian. There are quite a few of them in California,and they have a reputation of being extremely hard headed. Let us see if Soetoro can penetrate her skull. I am betting that he will not get ANYWHERE with her. It could be to induce her to surrender all of her research and Soetoro file. Again I doubt that she is that stupid. Further I doubt that she will sell out those who have befriended her and helped her financially. If she does then she is history with regard to the rest of us who helped her.
then there is this –
http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/15.htm
oh, and btw, the new name for MkUltra is Psyops
Old Salt and Free speech…
Good post…to that I can only add:
“Beware of Greeks bearing strange gifts”.
The Honorable Officer and Gentleman, General Vallely, has impeccable Credentials and a Stellar Advisory Board that includes General McInerny.
http://standupamericaus.com/the-sua-kitchen-cabinet:24023
and who is Aquino, the co author w/the good General of these articles I’ve posted, well, let’s have a look see –
Aquino, Satan and the U.S. military
Throughout much of the 1980s, Aquino was at the center of a controversy involving the Pentagon’s acquiescence to outright Satanic practices inside the military services. Aquino was also a prime suspect in a series of pedophile scandals involving the sexual abuse of hundreds of children, including the children of military personnel serving at the Presidio U.S. Army station in the San Francisco Bay Area. Furthermore, even as Aquino was being investigated by Army Criminal Investigation Division officers for involvement in the pedophile cases, he was retaining highest-level security clearances, and was involved in pioneering work in military psychological operations (“psy-ops”).
On August 14, 1987, San Francisco police raided Aquino’s Russian Hill home, which he shared with his wife Lilith. The raid was in response to allegations that the house had been the scene of a brutal rape of a four-year-old girl. The principal suspect in the rape, a Baptist minister named Gary Hambright, was indicted in September 1987 on charges that he committed “lewd and lascivious acts” with six boys and four girls, ranging in age from three to seven years, during September-October 1986. At the time of the alleged sex crimes, Hambright was employed at a child care center on the U.S. Army base at Presidio. At the time of Hambright’s indictment, the San Francisco police charged that he was involved in at least 58 separate incidents of child sexual abuse.
According to an article in the October 30, 1987 San Francisco Examiner, one of the victims had identified Aquino and his wife as participants in the child rape. According to the victim, the Aquinos had filmed scenes of the child being fondled by Hambright in a bathtub. The child’s description of the house, which was also the headquarters of Aquino’s Satanic Temple of Set, was so detailed, that police were able to obtain a search warrant. During the raid, they confiscated 38 videotapes, photo negatives, and other evidence that the home had been the hub of a pedophile ring, operating in and around U.S. military bases.
Aquino and his wife were never indicted in the incident. Aquino claimed that he had been in Washington at the time, enrolled in a year-long reserve officers course at the National Defense University, although he did admit that he made frequent visits back to the Bay Area and to his church/home. The public flap over the Hambright indictment did prompt the U.S. Army to transfer Aquino from the Presidio, where he was the deputy director of reserve training, to the U.S. Army Reserve Personnel Center in St. Louis.
On April 19, 1988, the ten-count indictment against Hambright was dropped by [corrupt] U.S. Attorney Joseph Russoniello, on the grounds that, while there was clear evidence of child abuse (six of the children contracted the venereal disease, chlamydia), there was insufficient evidence to link Hambright (or the Aquinos) to the crimes [despite it happening in their temple/house?!]. Parents of several of the victims charged that Russoniello’s actions proved that “the Federal system has broken down in not being able to protect the rights of citizens age three to eight.”
[As expected, in the multifaceted network himself,] Russoniello would later be implicated in efforts to cover up the links between the Nicaraguan Contras and South American cocaine-trafficking organizations, raising deeper questions about whether the decision not to prosecute Hambright and Aquino had “national security implications.”
Indeed, on April 22, 1989, the U.S. Army sent letters to the parents of at least 56 of the children believed to have been molested by Hambright, urging them to have their children tested for the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), because Hambright, a former daycare center worker, was reported to be a carrier.
On May 13, 1989, the San Jose Mercury reported that Aquino and his wife had been recently questioned by Army investigators about charges of child molestation by the couple in two northern California counties, Sonoma and Mendocino. A 9-year-old girl in Santa Rosa, California, and an 11-year-old boy in Fort Bragg, also in California, separately identified Aquino as the rapist in a series of 1985 incidents, after they had seen him on television.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/04/337621.shtml
Again and again,
Until I am able to determine for myself Valleley’s true position with regard to Lakin I refuse to SLAM the door so hard that it cannot be reopened. There is a lot of fact,and a lot of fancy being presented on the blog and it is up to the reader to figure out what is true,and what is not. Again I will at this point will neither say yea or nay regarding Valleley. It is my intention to explore this until I have a positive answer for myself.
Again and again, we continue to travel down the proverbial rabbit hole. I might suggest to many of you to take the red pill b/c it’s when taking the red pill you must you learn to accept the truth. My apologies, sincerely, to those of you who wish to believ our corporate government and military are, TODAY, are on the peoples side. They aren’t. And haven’t been for a long, long, long time.
Blessings and peace to those who have served honorably and for defending my rights to post this painful comment.
The Honorable Officer and Gentleman, General Vallely, has impeccable Credentials and a Stellar Advisory Board that includes General McInerny.
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No, FS, Vallely does not have impeccable credentials.
I first learned about Vallely’s intimitate involvement with the MKUltra program a month or so ago. I delved into his background b/c Tim Harrington and JB Williams thought this man shot the moon. Well, I always do background checks on just about anybody who enters my sphere of influence. Just like I did on you, sir.
Thus, I learned way more about the General than I wanted too. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who has taken the work of Sidney Gottleib, Paperclip and Artichoke master, and fine tuned it to the degree Aquino supposedly has along with what naturally appears as Vallely’s assistance, I want NO PART OF!!!
This man’s heart may be in the right place today, but all of us must take the time to learn who he is, what departments he’s served and how he has picked up MK Ultra and morphed it into PSYOPS is more than enough to raise red flags for me.
Too bad Harrington, who I so respect, and JB Williams, whose work I respect did not do there own juris prudence by simply googling MK Ultra + General Vallely.
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 6:23 pm |
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GEEZ LOUISE — You’ve been breathing the same poisoned air as Free Speech. Do not quote me over things I did not say.
I have never said I agreed with that. In fact when I first started down this road some time ago, I prefaced my remark with a comment that the judge’s ruling was WRONG and BIZARRE.
I simply point out that the way the case sits right now – the judge has made a ruling. That is the current status of the case. SHE said that – SHE therefore has ruled that Obama does not matter.
Like it or not. Agree with it or not. That is where we sit. And the case cannot discuss Obama until that “little” hurdle is gotten over.
Is that so hard to understand?
Must so many people continue to misquote me?
Free Speech | September 14, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
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There is a legal word for this – putting down, IN PRINT, false and misrepresentative statements about someone else. One can be fined and/or imprisoned for this CRIME.
Do you like jail, sir? Do you want to go back? I am collecting all this stuff – and the original statements you misquote and lie about. This has ceased to be amusing.
Do you understand hints? Or are you deranged?
Proceed with caution – – –
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 6:35 pm |
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Why do you read FS’s mis-representations and misquotes?
Direct your anger at HIM. He is the one that is saying all this stuff.
MKUltra was real and MKUltra was harmful to America…
Any one blogging here that thinks our government, whether it be Republican or Democrat, is here to PROTECT and DEFEND the citizens of this country should take a closer look around.
The government is here for ONE reason and ONE reason only:
TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE
oldsalt79 | September 14, 2010 at 6:35 pm |
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PS – I have never advocated laying down and quiting – nor whining. Your heros and mine – people like Patton and MacArthur (my personal favorite) – certainly would constantly assess a situation and if a defensive fortification were to prove stronger than planned, they might very well withdraw and come at it from a different angle. To do otherwise would be stupid and suicidal. I plead guilty to occasionally doing likewise. I am not immune to criticizing a failed approach and recommending another.
But if you make any statements or form any opinions based on FS’s garbage, I just kindly suggest you reflect those back on him. He is building little “windmills” and “tilting at them”. The British have a good word for playing with yourself thus. It starts with “wan” and ends with “ker”. Look it up.
citizen carlyle/bo’s recent posts show that the obots are very frightened now.
The obots are obviously terrified of the Good General Vallely assisting Col Lakin in his defense.
Free Speech @ 8:18 pm |
I couldn’t help it, I needed my patriot fix for the day and a reminder of what leadership looks like. At the end the General quotes George Washington-the Lafayette story on PBS was so educational and informative. The marquis helped in two revolutions ours and France-General Washington loved him like a son.
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=12164
In Time of Peace Prepare for War – The Last Days of PattonGeneral George S. Patton, played by Academy Award-winning actor George C. Scott, has helped the American troops win World War II. In this clip, he quotes George Washington saying #39;In a time of peace, prepare for war.
Michelle | September 14, 2010 at 8:35 pm |
Thanks, Michelle.
Thank God we still have officers in the Patton mold. Like Generals Vallely and McInerney.
Free Speech @ 8:47 pm | My father served under General Patton, now I know where he got that always prepare for war idea from– General Washington. When we were kids we heard that a lot, it was like lighten up Daddy what are the odds? but I think the kids who grew up during the Depression and then Pearl Harbor really had their world rocked and just kept working and tried to be decent, loyal Americans. They really appreciated peace and building up our great middle class. We are not going to allow a crew of nit-wits to forsake all of their hard work and sacrifices. Everything we all have in America has been passed down through the generations, it is our job to not only add to it but if we can improve our country. We do have some work to do, like un-do the real bad stuff.
Lt Col Lakin’s defense is taking a path that has a good chance of being fruitful. They appear to expect a conviction, which should enable them to keep the appeals going on up the chain. It appears to me that after the Nov 2 election which will reverse the House, the Administration will be on the defensive and the will of We the People will have more traction in many venues. I trust that the overwhelming opinion of the public will be that Lakin is entitled to information needed to defend himself, before a conviction will stand. Even if he is convicted and incarcerated, the drumbeat on the eligibility issue will only strengthen. Sure, if it were me, I’d want Zero’s admission his Dad was British to be entered as evidence. But I trust Lakin’s team has a strategy. The ‘show must go on’ before the overwhelming majority of Americans unite in demanding Zero resign.
Thanks to Free Speech for reposting the words of CC Fubo, which convict this poster as a supported of Zero, a denier of the Constitution, and an interloper intent on disrupting the legitimate debate here. All need to be reminded that many fear this open and productive discourse and will do what ever they can to distract us and turn us away from Job #1; removal of the illegal alien sitting in the White House.
Bill G | September 14, 2010 at 9:22 pm |
Thanks to Free Speech for reposting the words of CC Fubo, which convict this poster as a supported of Zero, a denier of the Constitution, and an interloper intent on disrupting the legitimate debate here. All need to be reminded that many fear this open and productive discourse and will do what ever they can to distract us and turn us away from Job #1; removal of the illegal alien sitting in the White House.
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Thank you Sir!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iZaC_s19dWrLVffA3Ucntv9dWp4QD9I81U4G1
WILMINGTON, Del. — Conservative activist Christine O’Donnell earned a stunning victory in Delaware’s Republican Senate primary Tuesday, riding a wave of tea party anger and advertising dollars to oust U.S. Rep. Michael Castle.
O’Donnell’s shocking win gave new energy to the tea party movement, which targeted Castle after victories by Republican tea party candidates in the Alaska and Nevada Senate primaries
Michelle | September 14, 2010 at 9:32 pm |
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iZaC_s19dWrLVffA3Ucntv9dWp4QD9I81U4G1
WILMINGTON, Del. — Conservative activist Christine O’Donnell earned a stunning victory in Delaware’s Republican Senate primary Tuesday, riding a wave of tea party anger and advertising dollars to oust U.S. Rep. Michael Castle.
O’Donnell’s shocking win gave new energy to the tea party movement, which targeted Castle after victories by Republican tea party candidates in the Alaska and Nevada Senate primaries
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Great News!
Bill G | September 14, 2010 at 9:22 pm |
Thanks to Free Speech for reposting the words of CC Fubo, which convict this poster as a supported of Zero, a denier of the Constitution, and an interloper intent on disrupting the legitimate debate here. All need to be reminded that many fear this open and productive discourse and will do what ever they can to distract us and turn us away from Job #1; removal of the illegal alien sitting in the White House.
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Yeah right. After I have told you at least twice already, those are not what I said. Most of that is me quoting what other people said. If you fail to read what I wrote initially, even after I explain “the game” at least twice, does that earn you the title of “moron”?
Q.E.D. More distraction, misrepresentation and name calling from CC, desperate to be heard. CC please move on to where your inane remarks might be tolerated.
RMinNC | September 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm |
Maybe the team means to go after
1) the dual citizenship; English and Indonesian
2) no record of U.S. citizenship
3) no record of name change from adopted Soetoro to Obama
4) treason in 2006 when stumping for a Kenyan cousin, Odinga
Bill G | September 14, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
Q.E.D. More distraction, misrepresentation and name calling from CC, desperate to be heard. CC please move on to where your inane remarks might be tolerated.
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Bill G | September 14, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
Q.E.D. More distraction, misrepresentation and name calling from CC, desperate to be heard. CC please move on to where your inane remarks might be tolerated.
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Now that we have exposed cc/bo he has no credibility here among True Patriots. Now that his posts are being ignored he resorts to juvenile name calling and rants.
http://www.tothepointnews.com/
WHEN ATTACK DOGS BARK UP THE WRONG TREE
Lasst Wednesday in Cleveland (9/8) President Barack Obama criticized John Boehner eight times. The Democratic National Committee has released an ad attacking him.
The New York Times published a hit piece on Mr. Boehner Sunday (9/12). George Stephanopoulos of ABC and Bob Schieffer of CBS attacked him in interviews.
Who, you may ask, is John Boehner?
The attacks on Mr. Boehner are a tacit admission by Democrats their earlier strategy of blaming George W. Bush for just about everything isn’t working.
When the president attacks a person who is as obscure as Mr. Boehner currently is, it elevates Mr. Boehner’s stature and reduces his own. Americans like to have their presidents act presidential. This is why vice presidents traditionally play the role of attack dog.
Vice President Joe Biden is a buffoon, which may in part explain why Mr. Obama is doing the growling and barking himself. But this is not a president who can afford further dimunition of his status. Wags say skiier Lindsey Vonn is thinking of giving Mr. Obama the gold medal she won at the Winter Olympics, because no one has gone downhill faster than he has.
Register to read more…
I have thrown myself in with my fellow radicals our Founding Fathers. Radical, rebel, patriots that is what they were.
http://www.tothepointnews.com/
YES, IN FACT, WE ARE RADICAL
Written by Dr. Joel Wade
Tuesday, 14 September 2010
When the left attacks those of us who value our founding principles as “too radical,” some of us may be tempted to respond, “We are not; we just want to uphold the Constitution. You’re the ones who are radical!”
But radical is not a label from which we should defend ourselves. The truth is, we are indeed radical; because America’s founding principles represent the most radical and revolutionary change in human governance in millennia.
JJ,
Can we see you in this video?
The Sounding Fathers We’re not gonna take it 9/12 Tea Party Across America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjWlsBO1T3A
Michelle | September 14, 2010 at 9:32 pm |
Dick Morris at St. Louis Sunday, TPP Rally, said the turnover numbers of reps. to gain the house in November is already about 80; only 40 was needed to gain control….WHOOPEEE…..I’D SAY THAT’S SOME WHOOP AZZ FOR THE CONSERVATIVES AND THE TEA PARTY PATRIOTS!!!
JJ @ 11:31 pm |
Thank you for the information-I hope it all comes true and it is a beginning of reforming our nation (government division) . Remembering all the insults suffered by WE THE PEOPLE, Tea Party folks and so many others who just endured for the sake of our Constitutional Republic, this songs for you. Our backs were against the wall.
Bill G | September 14, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
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I gave you some benefit of the doubt and at least some wiggle room in my last comment. You have now answered my question. When you come to believe that an author is not the definitive authority on his own quotes and bits of wisdom, then you are pretty far “over the edge”.
JJ | September 14, 2010 at 10:47 pm |
RMinNC | September 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm |
Maybe the team means to go after
1) the dual citizenship; English and Indonesian
2) no record of U.S. citizenship
3) no record of name change from adopted Soetoro to Obama
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That’s it! Instead of depending on discovery being granted by Judge Lind about the birth certificate; the defense team, I think, intends to go forward by asserting that Obama IS INELIGIBLE, according to what you have cited above, and possibly other points; e.g., it wouldn’t hurt to use Obama’s own words as to his father’s British citizenship and then argue the NBC issue to the hilt.
They don’t need to use discovery to prove his ineligibility. In other words, he can be proved to be a usurper without ever having a birth certificate produced. Isn’t that what we think a revitalized defense team will do?
Please don’t be upset with me for saying this, but I’ve been busy a good deal of the day and am catching up reading your posts. A few here have gone beyond the pale in tearing apart and misreading quotes of others. What in the world is going on?
Free Speech, you repeatedly quote someone who has quoted another poster and don’t reference the quotes at all. Then you “go after” someone and can’t let go – ad nauseam. Sometimes I’m beginning to think there are a bunch of kooks who post here, and I include myself in that assessment.
Can’t we do a little better and not rail against each other? Personally I believe that we here are a bit above the average thinker, but our display in unfairly attacking another rather nullifies that good point.
Evidently turn-out was big.
http://www.breitbart.tv/palin-effect-odonnell-tea-party-win-in-maryland/
Karl Rove and Sean Hannity discuss the surprising victory by tea-party backed candidate Christine O’Donnell.
Jonah…go here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/markpolege/4984803043/sizes/l/in/set-72157624944260158/
On that page…see the upper right??
See the big guy under the blue umbrella??
See the big guy with the big banner of the state of Missouri (white/red/blue))??
I’m in front of that, with hair behind ears/sunglasses/white shirt, sitting in chair.
WE HAD A GREAT TIME –WILL RALLY THE NEXT ONE TOO!!
Now, did any pictures capture you??