Blagojevich trial jurors request Bradley Tusk testimony, August 16, 2010

Blagojevich trial jurors request Bradley Tusk testimony, August 16, 2010

From the Chicago Tribune August 16, 2010.

“On the 13th day of deliberations, jurors in the Rod Blagojevich corruption trial have made a new request of U.S. District Judge James Zagel: they want to see a transcript of the testimony of Bradley Tusk, a former deputy governor who spoke on the stand about what he perceived as an attempted shakedown of U.S. Rep. Rahm Emanuel.

Over the objections of a defense lawyer, Zagel said he would provide the transcript.
Tusk, who served Blagojevich from 2003 until 2006, testified that Blagojevich had promised a $2 million grant to an experimental Chicago school in Emanuel’s district, only to later hold its release hostage unless Emanuel leaned on his Hollywood talent agent brother, Ari, to hold a fundraiser for the governor. Tusk testified that he was so outraged by Blagojevich’s alleged tactic that he told Blagojevich’s general counsel, William Quinlan, to “get control of your client.””

“Jurors created a stir last week with a note to Zagel signaling they have been able to agree on only two of the 24 counts against Blagojevich and had not yet even considered 11 wire fraud counts.

Zagel told them to deliberate further and asked them to come to some decision about the wire fraud counts, even if it was only that they were split.

If they can’t agree, Zagel could accept a partial verdict and declare the jury hung on undecided charges. That could result in prosecutors retrying Blagojevich.”

Read more:

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/blagojevich-on-trial/2010/08/blago-attorneys-called-in-for-a-jury-question.html

101 responses to “Blagojevich trial jurors request Bradley Tusk testimony, August 16, 2010

  1. Did the jury ask for the testimony on direct and cross?

    Looks like feds may have found a weakness in the defense after reviewing the transcripts over the weekend and then got the jurors that they bribed or blackmailed to ask for only the transcript that they believe they can get a conviction on.

  2. http://blogs.suntimes.com/blago/

    Mayor Bloomberg’s guy is focus of #Blagojevich jury. Here’s what he said.
    By Natasha Korecki on August 16, 2010 12:10 PM

    Rumors of a mistrial, hung jury or partial verdict ran rampant this morning.

    Then jurors in Rod Blagojevich’s case threw us a curve ball.

    They’ve asked for a complete transcript of testimony of a governor’s onetime aide.

    Bradley Tusk’s June 21st testimony was relatively brief and came on a busy trial day.

    Tusk, a onetime aide to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, testified about an alleged shakedown scheme contained in the government’s indictment.

    Tusk said while he was deputy governor of Illinois Blagojevich told him he wanted a message delivered to then-U.S. Rep. Rahm Emanuel: A $2 million grant for the Chicago Academy, a school in Emanuel’s district, was on hold unless his brother, Hollywood agent Ari Emanuel, held a fund-raiser.

    Tusk said he didn’t deliver the message but called Blagojevich’s lawyer to tell him: “You need to get your client under control.”

    Tusk’s time on the stand came on a big day for the trial.
    Racetrack owner John Johnston testified in the morning for the prosecution and the day former chief of staff John Harris also took the stand.

  3. orly now to appeal to international court of human rights……

    http://wonkette.com/417468/us-kenya-supreme-court-refuses-orly-taitzs-repeal

    :O

    ooo my

  4. Former Deputy Gov. Bradley Tusk has testified that he didn’t quit or notify any law enforcement agency after hearing of Blagojevich’s alleged attempted shakedown of Rahm Emanuel.

    Earlier in his cross-examination, Sorosky went down a line of questioning asking Tusk if the state was “bombarded” by requests like the Chicago Academy’s — seemingly to prove that the delay was a regular backlog, not the cause of any wrongdoing. Prosecutor Reid Schar objected.

    Zagel sustained, telling Sorosky that he was confusing a delay in grant requests for a delay in paying out grants that had already been approved.

    “If you want to ask him about refusals for grants that had already been granted, then that would have some relevance,” Zagel said, assuming his coaching role.

    It’s getting to the point where Schar doesn’t even speak to object — he just stands up.

    “Objection sustained,” Judge Zagel continues, time after time.

    As his lawyer cross examines Tusk, Rod at one point looks away and takes a deep breath.

  5. Prosecutor Reid Schar is emphatic as he asks follow-up questions about Blagojevich, speaking with his hands waving in the air, looking a tad red in the face. He’s asking former Deputy Gov. Bradley Tusk if Rod Blagojevich was easy to reach as governor.

    The answer was no.

    “He was not always engaged in the process,” Tusk responded.

    Schar asked if Blagojevich often ranted and raved as governor.

    Yes — but about having to attend meetings to talk about state business, Tusk said.

    Schar mentioned one occasion when, Tusk has testified, Blagojevich asked about Emanuel’s fund-raiser on the phone. Was he just ranting and raving then, Schar asked?

    “No,” Tusk said.

    Schar: “Did you take him very seriously?”

    Tusk: “I did.”

    Sorosky countered that the governor was known as a person who would make off-the-cuff remarks at times.

    “He just said it once to you in a telephone conversation,” Sorosky said. “You don’t know if he was frustrated about whatever at the time.”

    Tusk’s testimony has ended and Judge Zagel has called a 15-minute break.

  6. “It’s getting to the point where Schar doesn’t even speak to object — he just stands up.

    “Objection sustained,” Judge Zagel continues, time after time.

    As his lawyer cross examines Tusk, Rod at one point looks away and takes a deep breath.”

    Looks like a setup for the feds hidden ace in the hole.

  7. John Stapleton

    Just sent my $100 donation to Orly Taitz. We need to help her, she’s fighting our battle not just her own.

  8. “Tusk said while he was deputy governor of Illinois Blagojevich told him he wanted a message delivered to then-U.S. Rep. Rahm Emanuel: A $2 million grant for the Chicago Academy, a school in Emanuel’s district, was on hold unless his brother, Hollywood agent Ari Emanuel, held a fund-raiser.

    Ari is the inspiration for the “Entourage” character, Ari Gold.”

    http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2010/05/blagojevich-trial-judge-zagel-regarded-as-smart-unflappable.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    “In the case of U.S. District Judge James B. Zagel, who is scheduled to preside over the sweeping corruption trial of former Gov. Rod Blagojevich in a little more than two weeks, there’s a good chance those thoughts sometimes drift to grandly larcenous fantasies.

    How else to explain “Money to Burn,” the well-received 2002 novel penned by Zagel about a federal judge who masterminds an audacious heist at the super-secure Federal Reserve Bank in Chicago? (Spoiler alert: The judge gets away with millions of dollars.) “

  9. Bill Cutting

    Had to pass this on….

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/blago/2010/08/blagojevich_jury_impasse_an_om.html#comment-1005137

    By Jack the Clicker on August 14, 2010 2:49 PM
    “THE BALLAD OF BLAGO’S TRIAL” by Jack the Clicker
    (Sung to the tune of “When Johnny Comes Marching Home”)

    When Blago comes marching home again,
    Hurrah! Hurrah!
    The media will say “Welcome friend!”
    Hurrah! Hurrah!
    The judge and jury were hung in doubt,
    The truth that matters will not come out,
    And we’ll all feel rage when
    Blago comes marching home.

    When Blago comes marching home again,
    Hurrah! Hurrah!
    Chicago’s Machine will hide their sin,
    Hurrah! Hurrah!
    Obama’s pardon not needed then,
    And Rahm Emmanuel still his friend,
    And we’ll all feel rage when
    Blago comes marching home

  10. This is from the last thread:
    2. Free Speech | August 16, 2010 at 5:42 pm |
    Monday wasn’t the best day for Orly Taitz, the California lawyer and dentist who has made it a personal crusade to oust President Obama from office by proving that he wasn’t born in the U.S.
    On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court turned its back on Taitz. The court decided not to stay a fine against Taitz levied after after the attorney ran into trouble with U.S. District Judge Clay Land of Columbus, Ga. (Click here for the BLT blog piece.). . . . . . .

    * * * * * * * * *
    Orly Taitz’s “test” run with the Supreme Court is a great indicator as to what we can expect if any case involving Obama’s eligibility finally comes before them. It isn’t about Orly Taitz. It is about her audacity to challenge Obama’s eligibility.
    I pray no Obama eligibility case is heard before those nine dishonorables . If they do hear the case they will remove the issue of eligibility once and for all by claiming that the usurper is ELIGIBLE! If that happens our last hope has been smashed and we have no where else to go except civil war.

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  13. usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com | August 16, 2010 at 7:14 pm |

    If it is true that Orly’s former client Army Captain Connie Rhodes wrote Judge Land a letter stating that Orly filed the motion without her knowledge or consent and that she considered Orly’s actions “reprehensible and unprofessional” then what basis would SCOTUS have to overrule Judge Land?

  14. Free Speech | August 16, 2010 at 7:36 pm |

    My thoughts exactly, Free Speech. SCOTUS really only has one shot at this to get things right, from the perspective that their ruling will cause major unrest in our country. Maybe I am being naive right now, but perhaps they want to poach the case that has the most force (from a public relations perspective). Not that SCOTUS should think that way. But Clarence Thomas did say that they were avoiding the case.

  15. Free Speech | August 16, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    Not to mention the fact that if Orly’s client thought that she was uprofessional and seperated herself from her, what would they rule on? Nothing against Orly, but seems that she should have kept her client on board. The judge’s case was made by her own client.

  16. Paxson | August 16, 2010 at 7:58 pm |
    Free Speech | August 16, 2010 at 7:36 pm |

    My thoughts exactly, Free Speech. SCOTUS really only has one shot at this to get things right, from the perspective that their ruling will cause major unrest in our country. Maybe I am being naive right now, but perhaps they want to poach the case that has the most force (from a public relations perspective). Not that SCOTUS should think that way. But Clarence Thomas did say that they were avoiding the case.
    *************************************************************
    If Orly had simply filed the Brief that I wrote for her in February of 09 and not started defaming the SCOTUS Justices, she would not have ended up like this. It is very sad because both my daughter and I were very impressed with Orly.

  17. If Orly had simply filed the Brief that I wrote for her in February of 09 and not started defaming the SCOTUS Justices, she would not have ended up like this. It is very sad because both my daughter and I were very impressed with Orly
    *********************************************************************
    If Orly had gone before a judge that gave a damn about the Constitution, America’s heritage, and history, she wouldn’t have been raked over the coals by a bunch of intellectual a$$holes, playing games with the law, while they obfuscate Obama’s lack of eligibility. This is no time for legal maneuvering, and game playing. The people want an answer from the court and they want this issue resolved.

    There is no issue more important to this country.

    America does not have a legal president, therefore America has no government. We have anarchy, felons, oath breakers, and traitors, spending money they have no authority to spend. Taxing the people while no bill signed by Obama is valid to do so.

  18. Bob strauss | August 16, 2010 at 9:33 pm |

    If it is true that Orly’s former client Army Captain Connie Rhodes wrote Judge Land a letter stating that Orly filed the motion without her knowledge or consent and that she considered Orly’s actions “reprehensible and unprofessional” then what basis would SCOTUS have to overrule Judge Land?

  19. usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com at 7:14 pm,

    Has anyone found out if this letter below is authentic?

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/19905657/RHODES-v-MacDONALD-18-Letter-from-plaintiff-Connie-Rhodes-regarding-withdrawal-of-motion-to-stay-Govuscourtsgamd77605180

    Did Rhodes really write this letter or not ?… If Capt. Connie Rhodes, M.D. really wrote this letter, then she has every right to express herself….

    As for me, I question whether she wrote this letter. I personally would like to ask Capt. Connie Rhodes, M.D. to (A) See if she truly authored this letter and (B) If so, …. Did she author this under duress & under threats of court martial?……..I would not put anything past the USA Military, or the USA court system, or the USA government now…..

    AMERICANS, PLEASE IN THE HOLY NAME OF GOD…..WE THE PEOPLE are being overrun with horrible criminals committing crimes who are unfortunately working in all branches of our USA government, and in the USA military now.

    Look at what is happening in our OUT-OF-CONTROL TREASONOUS 111th CONGRESS, in the USA judiciary from the state court & federal courts & including the UNSUPREME COURT of the USA… And look what is happening in the USA military now to Our Great American Heros….Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, Lt. Com. Walter Fitzpatrick III, Major Stefan Cook, CDR. Charles Kerchner, Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq, and Mr. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. …who are ALL Great American Heros!!

    Yes, brother & sisters in Christ Jesus the LORD, these Great American Leaders being treated to & with the NEW NAZI tactics of the 100% Illegal & the 100% Unconstitutional Usurpation of OUR Highest office of the land, by a 100% FOREIGN Illegal Alien, & a 100% Foreign Born Domestic Enemy Terrorist, Radical Islamic Muslim Jihadist/Communist/Fascist/
    Marxist, Daily Serial Criminal, Daily Deliberate Constant Liar, 100% FOREIGN USURPER – FOREIGN ILLEGAL ALIEN USURPER, Soebarkah Barry Soetoro ALIAS Barack Obama & his co-workers who are 100% Illegally & 100% Unconstitutionally Overthrowing & Destroying the FREE United States of the USA Constitutional Republic by REFUSING TO OBEY THE RULE OF LAW IN THE UNITED STATES OF THE USA, CREATING ILLEGAL ANARCHY & CHAOS TO REIGN IN THE USA!

    I have got news for the criminals in the USA who are REFUSING TO OBEY THE RULE OF LAW IN THE USA & WHO ARE REFUSING TO OBEY GOD ALMIGHTY IN THE USA …. GOD ALMIGHTY WILL NOT BE IGNORED……THIS WON”T HAPPEN ON THE WATCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD WHO IS THE SAVIOR OF HUMANITY, ALMIGHTY GOD THE SON,
    WHO IS & WAS SENT BY THE FOREVER LIVING CREATOR, GOD ALMIGHTY, THE MOST HOLY TRINITY INTO SINFUL HUMANITY… WHOSE HOLY NAME IS…. LORD JESUS CHRIST EMMANUEL…
    YESHUA!! THE HOLY FOREVER LIVING MESSIAH!!

  20. Free Speech | August 16, 2010 at 9:40 pm |

    Bob strauss | August 16, 2010 at 9:33 pm |

    If it is true that Orly’s former client Army Captain Connie Rhodes wrote Judge Land a letter stating that Orly filed the motion without her knowledge or consent and that she considered Orly’s actions “reprehensible and unprofessional” then what basis would SCOTUS have to overrule Judge Land?
    ***************************************************************
    How about we address the merits of the case, and quit pussyfooting around. Obama is clearly ineligible and the courts are mired minutia. Let’s get to the meat and potatoes of the matter and establish a legitimate government for America.

  21. John Stapleton

    I’m researching the Obama eligibility issue and trying to clear up some things:
    Noticed it’s been said that he has spent millions hiding documents, I found out that that figure is from his campaign expenses release showing how much he paid lawyers; I’ve looked further into it and found that Mccain, Bush, Gore, all recent presidential candidates spent very large amounts on lawyers during their presidential campaigns – running for president is a costly venture and the lawyers handle all manner of jobs. The question is: how do we know the Obama legal bills were for hiding records?

  22. John Stapleton

    Anyway, I try to look at all sides of an issue. I have political views across the spectrum, although I definitely think Obama is bad for the country . I hope we can vote on someone better in 2012, I really do. I just have my doubts as Bill Clinton had lower polls at this time in his presidency and somehow gained re-election. . . The biggest threat to this country is not Obama but people ignorant enough to put someone like that in control. What do we do about that problem? It’s not like we can vote these people out of the country 😦

  23. P.S. Please consider this: Random House Dictionary 2010:

    The definition of “Duress” is: (1) Compulsion By Threat or Force; Coercion; Constraint (2) Forcible Restraint, Esp. Imprisonment (3) Law: Such Constraint Or Coercion – As Will Render Void A Contract or Other Legal Act Entered or Performed Under Its Influence.

    The definition of “Chaos” is: (1) A State Of Utter Confusion Or Disorder
    (2) Misrule (3) Unruliness.

  24. Bob Strauss At 9:33 pm,

    I agree with you completely!!

  25. “O God, do not keep silence . . . .
    . . . they conspire with one accord; against thee they make a covenant . . .

    O my God, make them like whirling dust, like chaff before the wind . . .

    As fire consumes the forest, as the flame sets the mountain ablaze,

    so do thou pursue them with thy tempest and terrify them with thy hurricane!

    Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek thy name, O Lord.

    Let them be put to shame and dismayed forever;

    Let them know that thou alone,
    whose name is the Lord,
    are the Most High over ALL the earth.” from Psalms 83

  26. John Stapleton |

    The biggest threat to this country is the usurper Barry Seotoro and his fellow Muslims and Socialists.
    Time to jump ship , John , it’s sinking .

  27. John Stapleton

    Army D.A.V. :

    Not sure if you understood what I said or not, but that’s the gist at what I was getting at … I agree Obama is a threat but the bigger threat are the people who voted him in … If we ever get Obama out of office we still have a problem of 69 Million people who were willing to put an ineligible candidate into office. How do we reach these people and convert them so they don’t vote some other tyrannical figure in office?

  28. John Stapleton

    Well God bless everyone and good night.

    Just a note of support:
    We’ll win this battle , we must remain honest, even tempered and righteous with God. God will lead us through and shine the light of redemption upon our country again.

  29. John Stapleton
    No problem John , most of 69 Million were dead people , foreigners, and cartoon characters , …………Look for the polls to be in the 30’s next week .

  30. John Stapleton @ 11:02 pm |
    The Main Street media had a huge hand in the Obama debacle which continues to this day. Lies, cover-ups, important material not reported, hidden, still waiting for the LA Times article and a few others that were suppressed. When the day comes and the main street media starts publishing the truth re: Obama/minions they are done. The Globe is printing some very interesting information (that we have known forever) so that should be interesting-the results. Gore/Climagate may have been stopped due to the Enquirer articles-or most people finally figured out that scam.

  31. OBAMA ISLAMIC BALLERINA

    Watch:

  32. Cabby – AZ @ 11:29 pm |
    Negative stereotypes of Islam???? Is Obama kidding?
    He came out of the Muslim closet this past week-end, and lied about Muslim/Christian/undecided/or unknown? on the campaign trail, so how many other closet doors of lies does this person (due to aliases) true name unknown but Obama is practical since he uses that name frequently-how many more closet doors Obama 50, 100 -this Obama House of Lies and other Craziness gets loopier by the day.

  33. John Stapleton

    “Look for the polls to be in the 30′s next week .”

    Probably less than that. I believe his position on the New York Mosque will even eat a little bit into his democrat base. I don’t believe democrats are evil as a whole, just misguided. I believe the left (not far left) are starting to realize how shameless Obama is though, it’s just taken them a lot longer than people in the middle (like me) and on the right.

    Are we winning? Yes. Do we still have a huge battle on our hands? Most definitely yes. We have way too much ignorance in this country. Looking at pictures of Obama rallys from 08 and inauguration, etc , you can see that his numbers of supporters aren’t imaginary but are real – and thus a real threat to our country if they stay ignorant. We must not demonize and push em away but EDUCATE and bring them over to the side of REASON.

  34. Cabby – AZ @ 11:29 pm | I wish I could put these pictures side by side.

  35. John Stapleton

    Michelle: I agree with you about his Muslim loyalties. I believe it’s an answer to our prayers that he’s let the cat out of the bag, for this is going to make it so much easier to bring people on over to our side.

  36. The question is: how do we know the Obama legal bills were for hiding records?

    >>>look at the lawyers names who show up in court to represent OBAMA
    look at the firm(s) they work for

    look at the specialty of the firm

    look at public records showing obama paying the firm and amount they paid

    this is all been researched, there is no denying the amounts of money involved, the firms hired, their area of expertise, the time they spent
    on the cases. It is a simple matter of multipling hours spent by billable rates and looking at obama’s own bills to the firms. He can’t hide this information, it has been researched

  37. Michelle
    When the day comes and the main street media starts publishing the truth .

    ********************
    When the polls reach the 30’s , that may be the day ……. they will no longer have access to the funds to keep his identity secret .

  38. John Stapleton
    ” We the people” are the majority , what people are you talking about ?.

  39. John Stapleton

    Army D.A.V. ?

    I know people right leaning moderates to conservative are majority. Not sure what you are referring to?

  40. Michelle | August 16, 2010 at 11:41 pm |
    Cabby – AZ @ 11:29 pm | I wish I could put these pictures side by side.
    ********************************
    Wow, I see what you mean! It’s the “dictator” look? Some resemblance, too.
    I would say “very, very hard-boiled.”

  41. John Stapleton

    We are what is known as the moral majority sir. My only point in one of my previous post is that Obama’s supporters are significant enough numbers to pose a threat to this country if they remain ignorant. We need to educate them by showing them how the far left leaders they vote in are a danger to us all.

    One battleground is our school systems. We should focus a LOT of energy into getting voices of reason into administrative positions in our schools. Once they lose their propaganda grip over our kids, the threat that they pose to us will be nipped in the bud.

  42. John Stapleton 11:39 PM
    Looking at pictures of Obama rallys from 08 and inauguration, etc , you can see that his numbers of supporters aren’t imaginary but are real – and thus a real threat to our country if they stay ignorant. We must not demonize and push em away but EDUCATE and bring them over to the side of REASON.
    ******************************************
    Here is something that fits in with what you have said. (It has been posted before a couple of days ago):
    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America.

    Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”
– Article appearing in the Czech Republic published in the Prager Zeitung of 28, April 2

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  45. Hi Free Speech
    True, Dr. Taitz has made some mistakes in the heat of her enthusiasm to see justice brought to America. Mario Arpuzzo got his sanctions rescinded (not proper legal language) upon the bases in order for the court to prove he did something wrong, the court would have to order O’usurper to produce his documents.

    Suits against Barack Insane Obama demanding he produce his documents ARE NOT FRIVOLOUS. THEY ARE THE MOST PATRIOTIC ACTS AVAILABLE TO HONEST AMERICANS WHO WANT TO TAKE BACK AND RESTORE AMERICA.

    The SCOTUS could have ruled in Orly’s favor simply based upon the fact the suit was not frivolous. Such a decision would have demonstrated their willingness to be objective if and when they actually hear an Obama eligibility case.

  46. John Stapleton | August 17, 2010 at 2:49 am
    ————————————————-
    Let’s cut to the chase and stick with the absolute FACTS:
    1. Obama sealed ALL his records in life from Day 1 in Office.
    2. Obama has NEVER produced a certified true copy of his Birth Cert.
    3. Obama has something to hide and he is hiding everything about his life.
    What more do we need to fool ourselves? Law suits? Counting beans – how much he spent on legal fees? How much he disrespects his country (most likely not) and his fellow country men/women (most likely not) to even play games in such a manner with us?

    Let’s don’t waste any more of our energy and precious time by questioning eachother like how much money he spent or not spent on the damn law suits. The fact that we the people, his employers, have to SUE him to see if he is qualified or not is just twisted and sickening. IMO.

  47. John Stapleton

    We are having problems getting enough credibility for the MSM and most importantly: congress and courts to take the eligibility issue seriously. When the whole “He has spent X amount of money” line is fabricated, and that’s the first thing people hear: it takes a huge chunk of credibility away from the cause and causes people to cast doubt on what should be valid concerns .. So yes, it is vitally important to make sure we are being absolutely honest and fact check our accusations for this very reason!

  48. John Stapleton

    As for the idea that Obama sealed all his life records on day 1, That’s another absolutely provably false statement that is ruining our credibility and chances at being taken seriously

    The executive order you are referring to is order #13489
    Here is the document itself:
    http://fas.org/sgp/obama/presidential.html

    Now here is another executive order by one of my favorite presidents
    Executive order #12667 by president Reagan.

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12667.html

    Take a look at both of them. They are basically the SAME. They both seal presidential records and NOT life records, only records produced by president during his years in office.

    For some reason Obama reverted the executive order back to the way Reagan had it; for Bush had a similar executive order which sealed MORE records than the other two .
    http://hnn.us/articles/386.html

    My whole point in pointing these things out is a desire to push our movement in a more honest direction. Passing around untruths does nothing but harm our credibility.

  49. John Stapleton | August 17, 2010 at 7:21 am

    John, we don’t need a rehashing of the eligibility issue here. The COLB that Obama has provided is most certainly a forgery. The state of Hawaii has acted in a very peculiar manner. It is likely that he had Indonesian Citizenship and went by the name Barry Soetero. Obama has most certainly blocked all/if not most of his past from daylight. Please don’t come here with misdirection to get the conversation off on a tangent.

  50. John Stapleton | August 16, 2010 at 11:02 pm |

    Army D.A.V. :

    Not sure if you understood what I said or not, but that’s the gist at what I was getting at … I agree Obama is a threat but the bigger threat are the people who voted him in … If we ever get Obama out of office we still have a problem of 69 Million people who were willing to put an ineligible candidate into office. How do we reach these people and convert them so they don’t vote some other tyrannical figure in office?
    ________________________________________________

    What frightens me about those 69 million voters – they are the poor, the unemployed, the union members, the non tax payers, the sit-at-home and collect unemployment forever and VOTES for who will promise them the most. As the economy gets worse more will fall into that group and that will be the end. Remember rule #32 of The Democrat Party’s Manifesto –

    32- LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE ARE THE PARTY FOR THE LOSERS IN
    LIFE AND WE(The Elitists -ie-
    Kerry or Soros) CAN ONLY KEEP OUR POWER BY KEEPING THEM
    THERE.

  51. John Stapleton

    Citizenwells: I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to bring up these discrepancies and untruths being spread around. I believe honesty is one of the most important traits we have as human beings, just behind loyalty to God and Loyalty to country. It shows commendable character that you allow me to have a voice here when I didn’t have that opportunity on another patriot site: resistnet , as I was censored there simply for pointing out the hard evidence that I am here.

    Thank you. I believe you are one of the most fair and balanced patriots representing the issues we’re having with our country right now.

  52. Sorry OT – Here is something interesting I found on Drudge this AM –

    President Clinton Visits Newsmax

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/bill-clinton-visits-newsmax-ruddy-meek-democrats-florida/2010/08/16/id/367634

    Remember that old saying – Keep Your Friends Close, But Your Enemies Closer!

  53. John Stapleton | August 17, 2010 at 7:53 am |

    Look, John. Nobody wants to censor you. However, Robert Bauer, now the White House Counsel (of all things) was Obama’s lawyer who represented him in many of the eligibililty cases. His firm was paid a lot of money during that time frame. Also, Barack Obama has absolutely blocked his long form birth certificate and his Occidental College records from being released. So please don’t give us a “woe is me” attitude about getting censored. Most people here know what is going on.

  54. John Stapleton

    Ms Helga: I agree with you to a degree that the democrat party has a large percentage of poor who are undeniably hooked on the nanny state programs — It’s sad that so many people refuse to help themselves… It’s not to say that one can generalize the entire population of democrats as losers, however;

    I have both democrats and republicans in my family and they all happen to be very honest, hard working and moral + loving people. There are actually some very decent people who call themselves democrat in this world; perhaps it’s because they don’t have a good enough political party alternatives, I don’t know.

  55. Paxson
    ms. helga

    Do we have someone here from FactCheck.org trying to set us straight ?.

  56. John Stapleton

    Army D.A.V. :

    I have been absolutely respectful and have given nothing but hard non-biased evidence trying to correct some of the obvious errors in our narrative. I’ll be absolutely honest: After exhaustive research, I agree with Andrew Breitbart that we need to focus our attention on pointing out policy mistakes that are hurting our country, rather than throwing any and all mud at the wall (regardless of validity or truthfulness) to see what all sticks.

    I love America and I value hard working, respectful and HONEST patriotic citizens. I believe we’re losing a lot things and ideals that made this country the best and we need to focus our attention to a laser pinpoint accuracy on only things that can be proven that Obama is doing wrong to this country.

  57. Someone asked whether this document posted on Scribd was genuine:

    As it was me who posted it, I should say that I have not been able to find any ‘formal’ filing of this, so, rather than posting this document as ‘proof positive’ that Orly acted with out Rhode’s instruction, I should have said something like ‘this letter, claiming Orly acted without the permission of her client, was *apparently’ posted by Rhodes’.

    Orly herself certainly thought it was suspicious at the time, but Rhodes deployed, and the exact circumstances of the end of that legal relationship, which came within A week or so, are probably only known to a handful of people.

  58. John Stapleton | August 17, 2010 at 8:16 am |

    I’ll be absolutely honest: After exhaustive research, I agree with Andrew Breitbart that we need to focus our attention on pointing out policy mistakes that are hurting our country, rather than throwing any and all mud at the wall (regardless of validity or truthfulness) to see what all sticks.
    ___________________________________________________

    You do that, John. Nobody here is stopping you. Just please don’t provide misdirection. This is the wrong place to do that. To come here and allude that all is kosher with the way that the eligibility issue has been handled by the President, and all of the grimey details held within, is hogwash.

  59. Cabby – AZ | August 17, 2010 at 12:11 am |
    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America.
    Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”
– Article appearing in the Czech Republic published in the Prager Zeitung of 28, April 2
    ===============================================================
    Very wise people, those Czechs…………

    A Remarkable Village In The Czech Republic..
    Have you ever wondered if anyone in Europe remembers America’s sacrifice in World War II? There is an answer in a small town in the Czech Republic. The town called Pilsen (Plzen)
    Every five years Plzen conducts the Liberation Celebration of the City of Pilsen in the Czech Republic. May 6th, 2010 marked the 65th anniversary of the liberation of Pilsen by General George Patton’s 3rd Army.
    Pilsen is the town that every American should visit.
    Because…..they love America and the American Soldier… even 65 years later…….by the thousands the citizens of Pilsen came to say thank you… lining the streets of Pilsen for miles. From large crowds… To quiet reflective moments…

    See the video and read the narrative…….

  60. John Stapleton

    Paxson:

    You have some good points and that’s not what I was getting at. He should have done more to address the issue, no doubt about it.

  61. usapatriots-shout.blogspot.com | August 17, 2010 at 12:47 am |
    Hi Free Speech
    Suits against Barack Insane Obama demanding he produce his documents ARE NOT FRIVOLOUS. THEY ARE THE MOST PATRIOTIC ACTS AVAILABLE TO HONEST AMERICANS WHO WANT TO TAKE BACK AND RESTORE AMERICA.

    *******************************************************

    U don’t need to shout that to me. I have been working on legal actions against bo since 2008. I wrote briefs for Orly and did legal research for other eligibility lawyers as well. But again I ask U?

    If it is true that Orly’s former client Army Captain Connie Rhodes wrote Judge Land a letter stating that Orly filed the motion without her knowledge or consent and that she considered Orly’s actions “reprehensible and unprofessional” then what basis would SCOTUS have to overrule Judge Land?

  62. John Stapleton | August 17, 2010 at 8:51 am |

    Not only did he not address it, he provided a forged COLB that was not “touched and held” by major news organizations. Have you seen the two kids that “vouched” for it?

  63. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704868604575434074237252604.html

    Researchers at the University of Georgia said Monday that more than three-quarters of the oil spilled in the Gulf of Mexico following the Deepwater Horizon drilling-rig explosion could still be in the Gulf threatening fisheries and marine life, disputing government statements that much of the oil had been safely dispersed.

    “One major misconception is that oil that has dissolved into water is gone and, therefore, harmless,” said UGA marine scientist Charles Hopkinson, the senior investigator in the effort. “The oil is still out there, and it will likely take years to completely degrade.”

  64. British Muslim radicals want to take over the UK and turn Buckingham Palace into a mosque. From CNN International.
    http://patriotsinexile.us/2010/08/15/british-muslims-want-to-take-over-the-uk/

  65. Muslims in New York Desecrate U.S. Flag…..

  66. John Stapleton
    You might as well give it up you are talking to death ears! If you don’t run with the “pack” you are attacked! Make sure all t’s are crossed and all i’s are dotted or you will be belittled!!!! I am saying not all here are like that! I used to come here to learn things but when someone comes with another opinion or question they are belittled or passed over……..

    I will most likely be banned from Mr. Wells blog but that is ok because just being able to read is not in my interest any more!

  67. Bill Cutting

    Looks like the paid operatives at the dr. communist blog are getting desperate again.

    The Lakin trial must really have them spooked.
    ———————————————————————————————-
    Truth Matters 17. Aug, 2010 at 3:15 am Truth Matters(Quote) #
    Thanks AnotherBird, MajorityWil, etc for your help .. Hope you don’t mind – I borrowed some of your information in my reply to the Wells crowd. (had to pretend to be one of them to even be allowed to post there and taken out of moderation .. they obviously don’t allow anyone who dares to question the narrative to take part in their discussion) ..

  68. John Stapleton | August 16, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Just sent my $100 donation to Orly Taitz. We need to help her, she’s fighting our battle not just her own.
    !!!!!!
    Are you and I the only two people on this planet that feel this way??
    I agree with you 100% in spite of all the flap she’s getting from the ‘experts’ sitting on the sidelines.
    My God, the woman deserves an ‘honarary badge’ just for courage.

  69. see, CW, if you had that 5 minute delay for corrections, I wouldn’t need to correct the spelling of ‘honorary’!

  70. But Clarence Thomas did say that they were avoiding the case.
    !!!!!
    Great attitude, Thomas.
    That ‘cancer’ will just cure itself…(sarcasm)
    No, it’ll spread as it’s doing now.
    Does anyone hear the silence I hear?? It’s very scary.

  71. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    JJ | August 17, 2010 at 10:48 am |

    ================================

    Come on, people. You can have whatever delay you choose. Just read your dang stuff over one time before you post it!

    Not you, JJ, but I’ve complained before that some people don’t even read over their stuff to see if it makes any sense.

  72. Nothing against Orly, but seems that she should have kept her client on board. The judge’s case was made by her own client
    !!!!!!!!!
    Can I step in here with an idea??
    Since we’re dealing with the fraud from ‘the hood’ and all his ‘mafia’ associates, how do we know what or who changed that client’s mind??
    Maybe she’s just glad to be ‘alive’.

  73. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech | August 17, 2010 at 8:56 am |

    ===================================

    You are precisely correct. But you are not addressing the bigger picture. At least a half-dozen cases regarding eligibility have made it to the USSC so far. In a strict legal sense, every one of them has been flawed in one way or another, some only minor.

    The Supremes have failed in not using their discretion to either take the cases anyway or, even better, as you often hint at, taking original jurisdiction on some of these cases. The way I think about it – and it galls me – is: Almost no case is perfect. And given the rather wide latitude the USSC has, they can use these imperfections to dismiss every case, or they can overlook the imperfections, in the spirit of the action being important, and proceed anyway.

    We are all angered, and feel betrayed, because the USSC has used every opportunity and every excuse to NOT deal with this issue. Given the fact that they are major defenders of the constitution and given the extreme criticality and severity of the issue – this is just plain unacceptable and intolerable.

    THAT is the point.

  74. Free Speech | August 16, 2010 at 9:40 pm | Bob strauss | August 16, 2010 at 9:33 pm |

    If it is true that Orly’s former client Army Captain Connie Rhodes wrote Judge Land a letter stating that Orly filed the motion without her knowledge or consent and that she considered Orly’s actions “reprehensible and unprofessional” then what basis would SCOTUS have to overrule Judge Land
    !!!!!!!
    Stop your ceremonious judging—until you know all the facts, why this client wrote that letter, who prompted her to write that letter–UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES THIS HAPPENED, STOP JUDGING!!

  75. Ginger | August 17, 2010 at 9:41 am |

    Ginger, I wasn’t attacking John Stapleton. Also, why did you say that CW was going to “kick you off”?

  76. JJ | August 17, 2010 at 11:34 am |

    I’m not judging, merely asking a question. So rather than judging me and falsely accusing me, could U just answer the question?

    If it is true that Orly’s former client Army Captain Connie Rhodes wrote Judge Land a letter stating that Orly filed the motion without her knowledge or consent and that she considered Orly’s actions “reprehensible and unprofessional” then what basis would SCOTUS have to overrule Judge Land?

  77. The biggest threat to this country is not Obama but people ignorant enough to put someone like that in control.
    !!!!
    Wrong John Stapleton, the true count will never be discovered or REVEALED…those machines were compromised as will be the most serious problem this Nov. and forget getting a truly elected president ever again until—-YEP, PAPER BALLOTS PROTECTED AND COUNTED UNDER ARMED GUARD!!

  78. John Stapleton |

    The biggest threat to this country is the usurper Barry Seotoro and his fellow Muslims and Socialists.
    Time to jump ship , John , it’s sinking .
    !!!!!
    Or??? We were a non-gun family 3 years ago—husband just bought gun #4— a Ruger with a scope—calm down, it’s for deer!!!

  79. How do we reach these people and convert them so they don’t vote some other tyrannical figure in office?
    Well, John….let’s give them a civics test and a drug test before voting and a drug test before cashing that welfare/food stamp entitlement…it’s a start!!

  80. Just a note of support:
    We’ll win this battle , we must remain honest, even tempered and righteous with God. God will lead us through and shine the light of redemption upon our country again.

    One church in this county in Ky. has signs everywhere…

    IF MY PEOPLE PRAY….II CHRONICLES 7:14
    Amen to that church–it’s being noticed by everyone–and you know they go search out that scripture!

  81. ARMY D.A.V. 8:02 AM
    BILL CUTTING 9:42 AM
    Agreed. I smell a rat.

  82. 4 dozen names would launch Obamacare repeal
    House plan could undermine entire nationalization program
    !!!!!
    4 of the 6 reps of Ky are listed–it’s a start!

  83. I have thought for a long time that in order for one to have the privilage of voting that one should not be living on government subsistance.

    If someone is depending on the government for their very survival it is only human nature that they would cast their vote for the person/party which promises them the most benefits in the future.

    I think it is foolish for us to think otherwise. Would this requirement for one to be supporting him/her self in order to have a say in our government be harsh? Maybe, but the system we have now is unsustainable.

  84. Ms Helga: I agree with you to a degree that the democrat party has a large percentage of poor who are undeniably hooked on the nanny state programs — It’s sad that so many people refuse to help themselves… It’s
    !!!!!!!
    “Anyone unwilling to work should not eat” 2 Thessalonians 3:10
    Found in my Adult Bible Studies book.

  85. After exhaustive research, I agree with Andrew Breitbart that we need to focus our attention on pointing out policy mistakes that are hurting our country,
    !!!!!!!!
    You are so full of it—those ‘said’ policy mistakes are not legal when made by an illegal alien, an ineligible presence–a coup has happened in our gov’t., White House, or haven’t you heard??

  86. Should Obama — or Congress — Get Involved in Ground Zero Mosque Controversy?
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/16/obama-congress-involved-ground-zero-mosque-controversy/

  87. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) | August 17, 2010 at 11:20 am | JJ | August 17, 2010 at 10:48 am |
    Not ignorance on my part–just always multi-tasking as I catch up on the news here first—being an ex-educator, I do take pride in correct spelling (and I do own a Webster’s for the hard ones…smiley face inserted here!)

  88. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    JJ | August 17, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    ===========================

    Yeah, I know – you were just the straw that broke the camel’s back. There have been multiple posts on that topic recently. I just scratch my head and say “sheesh, that’s why God invented SUBMIT buttons”. Alas, do I always read my own stuff first? Uh, no. LOL.

  89. If it is true that Orly’s former client Army Captain Connie Rhodes wrote Judge Land a letter stating that Orly filed the motion without her knowledge or consent and that she considered Orly’s actions “reprehensible and unprofessional” then what basis would SCOTUS have to overrule Judge Land?
    First, I READ most opinions here because I am an educator–not an attorney.
    Therefore, this backwoods country girl has no background to answer any legal questions.
    Second, did everyone miss the implication with my question and comments—the client may have been simply avoiding harm (in more ways than one)by issuing this letter to Land.
    Third, was it proven beyond a reasonable doubt she wrote the letter willingly and not under duress by the military, or significant ‘others’??

  90. GALLUP FIRST: More than half of America disapproves of president’s performance…

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

  91. Bill Cutting: Looks like the paid operatives at the dr. communist blog are getting desperate again.

    The Lakin trial must really have them spooked.

    Hi Bill. Someone posted your comment over at ObamaConspiracy.org. I don’t know if you were referring to me or not, but in case you were, I’ll reply.

    I’m old enough to remember the 1950’s when you could get some traction calling someone a communist, but today? Communism is ancient history. You need to use something trendy like “jihadist.” However, I am none of those; I’m a Lutheran, and most to be feared.

    And those millions of dollars you think Obama spent getting a few motions to dismiss written are, of course, being paid to folks like me to reimburse me for my $8 a month web hosting account.

    After watching 70+ Obama eligibility lawsuits wash under the bridge, I can assure you that the Lakin case gets attention because it’s only game in town. The only question at stake in the Lakin trial is whether the Army makes an example of him, or is lenient in recognition of his 17 years of service. My guess is the latter.

  92. Dr. Conspiracy | August 17, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Except Joe McCarthy was proven to be correct through the Verona Papers.

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