2010 commitment and beyond, 2010 elections beginning not end, Citizen Wells open thread, July 30, 2010

2010 commitment and beyond, 2010 elections beginning not end

Phil, from The Right Side of Life, and I have been in regular contact for several years. He has done a great job of covering eligibility lawsuits and other topics. He has a new article up about commitment.

“The question: Do you really want change? As in, honest-to-goodness change towards freedom and liberty for individual rights?

To be perfectly honest, through the end of 2009 and the first part of 2010, while I have supported the proposition of the Tea Party movement, I questioned its ability (and presently still do) to truly effect change in the body politic. Granted, when the likes of Senator Arlen Specter got “primaried” in Pennsylvania’s voting (there have been other poignant examples; this just happens to be the key point I could think of at the moment), I began to realize that this Tea Party thing truly meant business and wasn’t a huge fad; but can it keep it up?”

“Are you really ready to make that kind of commitment to America? It’s not just about one election; after all, modern liberalism in all of its forms has been building the welfare/nanny state over the past several decades. You do realize that it’s going to take more than one election to turn things back towards individual freedom and liberty for the American society, yes?”
“Oh, you thought that politics and religion were mutually exclusive? Then you’ll have to ask yourself why the American founding fathers decided to invoke the Creator in the Declaration of Independence.”

“Please realize that this year’s election is but one step on the journey of a thousand miles. And those with whom we disagree are not going to go away silently into the proverbial night. They are going to fight at least as strongly against those who believe in individual freedom and liberty as we (hopefully) will be fighting towards that end.

Are you willing to make that kind of commitment beyond 2010?”

Read more:

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/07/29/a-commitment-is-required-for-those-who-want-change/

90 responses to “2010 commitment and beyond, 2010 elections beginning not end, Citizen Wells open thread, July 30, 2010

  1. Free Speech

    Call the Grand Jurors in your County and DEMAND the INDICTMENT, CONVICTION & IMPRISONMENT of bo & all of his co-conspirators for their CRIMES.

    Justice Lewis Powell:“ Such an investigation may be triggered by tips, rumors… or the personal knowledge of the grand jurors.”

    Mark Levine: “The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.”

    For information on forming a Secret Grand Jury to investigate crimes go here:

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-start-and-lead-citizens-grand.html

    http://dewdropwarriors.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    For information on Crimes committed by the BHO campaign:

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  2. Free Speech

    Watching Judgment at Nuremberg made one then very clear. Political opposition to Fascist rule DOES NOT WORK.

  3. Free Speech

    German resistance
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    Memorial plaque to resistance members and wreath at the Bendlerblock, BerlinThe German resistance was the opposition by individuals and groups in Germany to the National Socialist regime between 1933 and 1945. Some of these engaged in active plans to remove Hitler from power and overthrow his regime. Their plans culminated in the unsuccessful attempt to assassinate Adolf Hitler on 20 July 1944.

    The term German resistance should not be understood as meaning that there was a united resistance movement in Germany at any time during the Nazi period, analogous to the more coordinated (for example) Polish Underground State, French Resistance, and Italian Resistance. The German resistance consisted of small and usually isolated groups. They were unable to mobilize political opposition, and their only real strategy was to persuade leaders of the Wehrmacht to stage a coup against the regime: the 1944 assassination attempt against Hitler was intended to trigger such a coup.

    Between 1933 and 1945, more than 3.5 million Germans had been in concentration camps or prison for political reasons,[1][2][3] and approximately 77,000 Germans were killed for one or another form of resistance by Special Courts, courts martial, and the civil justice system. Many of these Germans had served in government, the military, or in civil positions, which enabled them to engage in subversion and conspiracy.[4]

  4. Free Speech

    The control of the bo regime is to vast to be defeated by political. The opposition parties (TP & Repub etc) are too easily infiltrated by bo’s regime

    With the massive voter fraud and intimidation protected by dept of injustice, there is simply no way opposition parties will overtake the demRats in the 2010 elections.

  5. Philo-Publius

    CW sometimes you are too quick to keep up with. I didn’t see the new post and you didn’t make a note about it in the previous topic thread like you usually do.

    Anyway, I posted several important news stories if anyone wants to go back in check them out.

  6. Philo-Publius

    DOJ Objects To Expedited Arizona Appeal
    Arizona has requested that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals set an expedited briefing schedule which would have the case fully briefed in just over one month. This is about half the time normally allotted for briefing in appeals from a preliminary injunction.

    The U.S. Department of Justice has just filed an opposition to the motion, arguing that the regular schedule should be followed, which would not have the case fully briefed until October 7, 2010. DOJ stated that it did not want its usual 28 day time period shortened, even if Arizona shortened its own time for briefing.
    http://tinyurl.com/33c2h5w

    ONLY the US Supreme Court has Constitutional Authority to Conduct the Trial
    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25983

  7. Free Speech

    Finally someone read the Constitution.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25983

    ONLY the US Supreme Court has Constitutional Authority to Conduct the Trial

    By Publius Huldah Thursday, July 29, 2010

    Does anyone read the U.S. Constitution these days? American lawyers don’t read it. Federal Judge Susan R. Bolton apparently has never read it. Same goes for our illustrious Attorney General Eric Holder. But this lawyer has read it and she is going to show you something in Our Constitution which is as plain as the nose on your face.

    Article III, Sec. 2, clause 2 says:

    In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.

  8. Free Speech

    It is noteworthy that it has been over a year and a half since I first began to write about the Citizens Grand Jury Process and Original Jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of cases against Barrack Hussein Obama and, to date, BHO’s lawyers have never been able to refute my Constitutional Theories.

    The precedent for getting standing and bringing a case directly to the United States Supreme Court upon Original Jurisdiction is the landmark case of Marbury v. Madison 5 U.S. (1 Crunch) 137, 2 L.Ed. 60 (1803). As succinctly stated by Chief Justice Marshall in Marbury, “If a persons duty is backed by law and not by political in nature, then he becomes subject of the law and is examinable by the court.”

    Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution states, “In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.”

    Marbury was a case involving a minor public minister. The case against Barrack Hussein Obama involves all “Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls” of the United States and of all foreign nations with diplomatic status with the United States. Furthermore, the case against Barrack Hussein Obama involves all States of the United States as parties.

    As in Marbury, We the People shall prosecute our cases against Barrack Hussein Obama petitioning the United States Supreme Court for a Writ of Mandamus compelling Barrack Hussein Obama to abide by the Constitutional Contract that he entered into with We the People on January 20, 2009 and uphold his Oath to abide by the Supreme Law of the Land, the Constitution of the United States of America.

    It is stated in United States v. Butterworth, 18 S. Ct. 441, 169 U.S. 600 at 602 (1898),
    “The office of a writ of mandamus is to compel the performance of a duty resting upon the person to whom the writ is sent. That duty may have originated in one way or in another. It may, as alleged in the present case, have arisen from the acceptance of an office which has imposed the duty upon its incumbent. But no matter out of what fact or relations the duty has grown, what the law requires, and what it seeks to enforce by a writ of mandamus, is the personal obligation of the individual to whom it addresses the writ.”

    Following much good faith research regarding the issue of original jurisdiction in the Supreme Court of the United States, We the People have found no cases in the history of jurisprudence of the United States of America wherein a Defendant disputed the Constitutional fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over “all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls” as plainly stated in the Constitution of the United States, Article III, Section 2.

    That being the case, “We the People” respectfully request that the Barack Hussein Obama stipulate to the fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has original jurisdiction over all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; or, in the alternative, that Barack Hussein Obama show good cause why the Supreme Court of the United States shall not have original jurisdiction

    http://grandjury.blogtownhall.com

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  9. 68Truthseeker

    Maj. Gen.Jerry R Curry (Ret.) Speaks Out On The Obama Eligibility Issue

  10. Speaking of elections, the Aug 3 election is very important to Missourians and the entire nation…….

    The President and Congress have given us a health care reform package that will force people into government-defined health plans and penalize them for paying for services with cash!

    Missouri’s Proposition C, on the August 3 primary ballot, will protect us from those government mandates by expressly stating that the government may not “penalize citizens for refusing to purchase private health insurance or infringe upon the right to offer or accept direct payment for lawful healthcare services.”

    Furthermore, the August 3 vote is the FIRST TIME any voters in the country will have the opportunity to vote yes in order to protect their freedom from government regulation.

  11. AKA Obama not a US citizen says Snoops pre-election – Click Image For Full View

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/aka-obama-not-us-citizen-says-snoops.html

  12. I need your help again.

    A 64 year old grandma wants to know if a Powerpoint presentation can SIMPLY be converted into a video in order to post it on youtube.

  13. Supreme Court not following its OWN RULES
    Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:38 PM
    From:
    “brennan

    View contact details
    To:
    dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    Wednesday, July 28, 2010 21:21 ET

    Dr Taitz,

    This is madness. Now the the Supreme Court is being run at
    the whim of its clerks. A lawless Supreme Court is a
    monster!

    Can you directly contact the Chief Justice without going
    through the clerks?

    Anyone can understand the Rule 22, it is simple and clear.
    By the rule, your applications MUST be transmitted to the
    judges. ONLY the judges can deny them, not the clerks. And
    you CAN RESUBMIT to EACH of the judges.

    SUPREME COURT OF THE U.S. – RULES
    ..Part V. Motions and Applications
    Rule 22. Applications to Individual Justices
    1. An application addressed to an individual Justice shall be filed with the Clerk, who will transmit it promptly to the Justice concerned if an individual Justice has authority to grant the sought relief.
    2. The original and two copies of any application addressed to an individual Justice shall be prepared as required by Rule 33.2, and shall be accompanied by proof of service as required by Rule 29.
    3. An application shall be addressed to the Justice allotted to the Circuit from which the case arises. An application arising from the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces shall be addressed to the Chief Justice. When the Circuit Justice is unavailable for any reason, the application addressed to that Justice will be distributed to the Justice then available who is next junior to the Circuit Justice; the turn of the Chief Justice follows that of the most junior Justice.
    4. A Justice denying an application will note the denial thereon. Thereafter, unless action thereon is restricted by law to the Circuit Justice or is untimely under Rule 30.2, the party making an application, except in the case of an application for an extension of time, may renew it to any other Justice, subject to the provisions of this Rule. Except when the denial is without prejudice, a renewed application is not favored. Renewed application is made by a letter to the Clerk, designating the Justice to whom the application is to be directed, and accompanied by 10 copies of the original application and proof of service as required by Rule 29.
    5. A Justice to whom an application for a stay or for bail is submitted may refer it to the Court for determination.
    6. The Clerk will advise all parties concerned, by appropriately speedy means, of the disposition made of an application.

    I will probably call the court, and they will probably tell
    me it is not my case and that they aren’t going to discuss
    it. I want to help but I really don’t know what to do!
    Terence Brennan
    Response from Orly

    I highlighted the part, where it says, that the Justice denying the application will note the denial thereon. Do you see, that it says that the justice needs to note the denial, not some faceless clerk. My application was never denied, since there is no signature from Justice Thomas, there was only a docket entry made by the clerk on Saturday the 17th, when the court was closed, Justice Thomas was in Utah, and it was backdated the 15th, even though there was no such notation on Friday, July the 16th and it is not noted on the log. We downloaded the log, it is missing. There has to be a criminal investigation of what is going on. Can you help me reach the Civil rights commission, the department of Justice public integrity unit and your congressmen and senators. If this can go on in the Supreme Court (don’t forget how my Application of Lightfoot v Bowen was deleted before the conference) anything can happen,
    I really need you people to burn the phones of your Congressmen and senators. They are really vulnerable now, it is only 3 months before the election. If we don’t get to the bottom of it now, it will be extremely difficult later. Please, go to the town hall meetings, demand meetings with your congressmen at their home offices, you have to get of your couches and work very hard now. This needs to be heard on the merits by the Supreme Court.
    Orly

  14. Sam Sewell // July 30, 2010 at 10:43 am

    AKA Obama not a US citizen says Snoops pre-election – Click Image For Full View

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/aka-obama-not-us-citizen-says-snoops.html

    Dr. Ron Polland found an article from the online self proclaimed “fact checkers” SNOPES.com in an April 21, 2008 article published by SNOPES saying … Barack Obama born in Kenya … can be proven by hospital documents and witnesses … Obama is not a legitimate U.S. Citizen.

    *****************************************

    Not disputing the validity of this, but when did Dr. Polland find it & why didn’t Orly, Phil, Mario or Leo D. reference it in their lawsuits?

  15. Jonah

    I am spreading the word on Proposition C, also! Had a short discussion with a gentleman yesterday that I think is a liberal but when I mentioned Proposition C, he told me he is voting on that ! I got a home made banner on my car window. We have got to get this passed! I do not want to be thrown under the bus.

    Rasmussen has Roy Blunt ahead of Carnahan by 6

    I can’t find a pole on Puresun (can’t spell name) and Carnahan! Have you seen one? I know the Tea Party around the state is backing Puresun but can he beat Carnahan?

  16. NJArtist, I am certain that the attorneys representing the State of Arizona and Gov. Brewer are fine people & good lawyers. It is just that all lawyers got indoctrinated to a greater or lesser extent while we were in law school. We did NOT read the Constitution. We were told, over & over, that the Constitution means whatever the Supreme Court says it means. We were told that Supreme Court opinions are “law”. Supreme Court judges (well, the liberal ones) are seen as gods.

    It wasn’t until I retired and stopped reading court decisions all the time, and actually READ the Constitution & Declaration of Independence, and dusted off my old copy of The Federalist Papers, that I was able to look at our Constitution with eyes untainted by 200 years of poisonous Supreme Court precedent – precedent which has a whole lot more to do with enshrining the judges’ personal opinions into “law” than it does with Our Constitution.

    Our constitutional Republic has been dying for a long time; but there are now those who seek to strike the final blow. May God be merciful and grant us national repentance in time. PH
    Posted by Publius Huldah on 07/30 at 09:30 AM | #

  17. “Phil, from The Right Side of Life, and I have been in regular contact for several years.”

    CW,
    Say hello to Phil for me, tell him to come over here and blog now and then, 🙂

    Pete

  18. Freespeech,

    Dr. Polland gave a personal interview on “The Postemail” website that might explain his analysis, history of investigation, ect..

    I don’t know if tbhis is what Snoops is refering too, but it sounds familar, at least in part. I have not read the snoops article as of yet.

  19. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/07/company-bho-keeps.html

    To paraphrase Euripides from the Phoenix, “Every man is like the company he… keep(s).”

    This brief article is to bring to the attention of all Editors of Blogs and Internet News sites BHO’s direct involvement with violent, murderous riots in Kenya.

    As a brief summary, BHO campaigned for his Luo Tribe “cousin” Raila Odinga during Odinga’s campaign for President of Kenya.

    Despite BHO’s best efforts to incite mobs of disgruntled Odinga supporters, his “cousin” lost. Immediately thereafter, Odinga incited mobs to engage in violent riots throughout Kenya. Thousands of Kenyan Christians were maimed or killed by Odinga’s murderous mobs. Women and Children were burned alive in their Christian Churches. Tens of Thousands of Kenyan Christians were driven from the homes.

    The recent dismissal of the case against the New Black Panthers for voter intimidation and threats of violence at the polls in Philadelphia clearly signals BHO’s plans for the November 2010 elections in the United States.

  20. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 30, 2010 at 11:29 am

    … all lawyers got indoctrinated to a greater or lesser extent while we were in law school. We did NOT read the Constitution. We were told, over & over, that the Constitution means whatever the Supreme Court says it means. We were told that Supreme Court opinions are “law”. Supreme Court judges (well, the liberal ones) are seen as gods.

    ===============================

    This is a totally bizarre and absurd statement! But I believe it to be TRUE!

    One of my favorite books and resources is The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution by Kevin Gutzman. Read this book! It will peel the fuzz off your eyeballs.

    He relates in there that he went to an Ivy League law school and studied the specialty of Constitutional Law. In that curriculum, they never once read the constitution. All they did was plow through Supreme Court cases, rulings, and precedents.

    Constitutional Law, by definition, seems to now mean the study of the body of work of the USSC, period. Even worse, is the emphasis on the 14th amendment – that most unconstitutional of all amendments (in the sense that it is totally out of character of the original constitution and upends a number of key concepts of the founding fathers). Most of the law coming out of the USSC for the last 60 years and even earlier is all wrapped up with the 14th somehow. The 14th is now quite literally the hub of the wheel with all the rest of the constitution arrayed around like supporting spokes.

    BTW – if you read this wonderful and insightful book, take Dramamine first or have a barf bucket handy.

  21. http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/03/two-ideas-to-empower-patriots-by.html

    Thursday, March 26, 2009

    Two ideas to empower Patriots-by passing lawyers

    From: Obama “I have nothing to hide but I’m hiding it.”

    THE POWER OF A PATRIOT

    by EA_LEO

    People tend to either credit lawyers and judges far too much or discredit them to the extreme. The truth is lawyers and judges are greatly restricted by the privilege of license or of office. The people who are patriots have far more freedom of action and far less restrictions in our society.

    Did you know that any citizen patriot can bring a criminal case against Barrack Hussein Obama in the County in which they reside? You do not have to be an Attorney General to indict a ham sandwich or a Barrack Obama. If a patriot had evidence of a crime committed by the 2008 BO campaign and that patriot presented said evidence to a sympathetic Grand Jury with a charge of conspiracy to commit said crime against Barrack Obama, that patriot could get BO indicted like that proverbial ham sandwich.

  22. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    truthbetold11 // July 30, 2010 at 2:04 am

    obama cannot be touched riots would be out of control millions of obots who cant comprehend he is that corrupt. think about it. it only takes a few to cause chaos. look at obama and 10 of his friends and the damage their doing.

    ==============================

    This is NO JOKE!

    This worries me a lot. Even in a righteous legal takedown, the MSM would portray this as “the legal system gone nuts”, or “the legal system fretting over an inconsequential legaleez detail.”

    The cities would burn. Hundreds (thousands?) of them!

    Think about this. We like to rush to judgment that the entire legal system is corrupt. Maybe it’s different than that? Maybe they all view keeping the peace as the most important good and all other concepts (including constitutionality) as secondary?

    Surely they believe that if anybody disparages the Obamessiah all hell will break loose. Presumably they understand that conservatives, libertarians, and all classes and orders of correct-thinking true Americans would never riot. Is it not possible that this significantly colors their thinking?

    Further ammunition: Terrorists (in this case, essentially Muslim) have successfully intimidated much of Western Europe. Read about Holland and Sweden in particular, and to a certain extent England and France. It is more than clear that the legal systems there are totally choked with the concept of “peace in the streets”. Why couldn’t and wouldn’t that happen here?

    Given a combination of Community Organizer and Muslimness (both extremely belligerent undertakings) we have a recipe made in hell.

    It is also the ONLY hypothesis I know of that fully explains why when given a latitude of legal choice (e.g. “standing”, “jurisdiction”) that so far ALL rulings have been in favor of the perceived lesser chaos.

    True, if Zero is “found out” that might be even worse chaos (i.e. “constitutional crisis”), but if he serves his term and fades into the sunset – no crisis, no riots, no problem. And I think most scholars and practitioners appreciate how easy it is to slow the wheels of justice to a sufficient crawl.

    This is a compelling scenario, no?

  23. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 30, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Free Speech // July 30, 2010 at 11:29 am

    … all lawyers got indoctrinated to a greater or lesser extent while we were in law school. We did NOT read the Constitution. We were told, over & over, that the Constitution means whatever the Supreme Court says it means. We were told that Supreme Court opinions are “law”. Supreme Court judges (well, the liberal ones) are seen as gods.

    ===============================

    This is a totally bizarre and absurd statement! But I believe it to be TRUE!

    One of my favorite books and resources is The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution by Kevin Gutzman. Read this book! It will peel the fuzz off your eyeballs.

    He relates in there that he went to an Ivy League law school and studied the specialty of Constitutional Law. In that curriculum, they never once read the constitution. All they did was plow through Supreme Court cases, rulings, and precedents.
    **************************************
    Above quote was from Publius Huldah but it is consistent with my Con Law Class. We never read the Constitution for that class, by that I mean we only read the snippets in our Con Law Text Book that the Prof wanted us to read.

  24. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 30, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    The cities would burn. Hundreds (thousands?) of them!

    I DOUBT THAT IT WILL BE AS BAD AS 1968. BO HAS LITTLE SUPPORT LEFT. SHABAZZ & nBP CAN’T SAVE bo. REGARDLESS bo WILL BE LEGALLY REMOVED.

    True, if Zero is “found out” that might be even worse chaos (i.e. “constitutional crisis”), but if he serves his term and fades into the sunset – no crisis, no riots, no problem…

    This is a compelling scenario, no?

    NO.

  25. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Economy being systematically destroyed.
    America being systematically destroyed.

    And, it is not just incompetence – it is malicious intent.

    Why are the Power Elite hesitant to say this so bluntly – or even really address it at all?

    Because the only fix is to do something dramatically different. Anybody who is on the side of the winner will survive, anybody on the side of the loser will – well, lose!

    Consider this extremely relevant analogy:

    You are a noble in feudal Europe. Your country is invaded by a strong foe. There will be war and there will be a winner and a loser. As a noble you are in a position to give significant aid and support to either the current king or the invading force. Every noble who chooses to aid the eventual winner will be amply rewarded. Every noble who chooses to aid the eventual loser will be reduced to serfdom or killed.

    Which side do you choose?

    The important thing is to survive. Helps explain things like the infamous Ron Paul inaction. He can do at least SOME good if he survives. He can do no good whatsoever if he blows himself up.

    Also helps explains things like SCOTUS being unwilling to touch this – or even Limbaugh or Beck. They have all bet on Zero (or at least bet on the progressives). Not to say the agree with Zero, only that he is holding the best hand right now.

  26. CC,

    I too doubt that it will be as bad as the past. In fact, it certainly would not be near the 2 civil wars we have already fought. Pandering, after the civil rights era was won, has indeed created a entire new generation.

    If you have time, read the last 4 articles from the Great African American Dr. Walter Williams. After each brief article, ask yourself; Worse or Better? Do nothing, or act now.

    Here is his home page.

    http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/articles.html

  27. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 30, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    This is the best “riot” that the boThug can produce.
    What a joke! Sheriff Joe will have these wimpy boThu in jail in pink jumpsuits by the end of day

  28. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 30, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    ================================

    Yes, I know you don’t agree with this. And I hope and wish to disagree with it also. But what you think or what I think is not the point.

    My point is that I strongly believe that this is what the PTB believes. I think they believe it strongly and deeply. I think they fear unrest more than anything else.

    It is the only explanation that seems to correctly explain all the inaction we are seeing.

    Reference my post just now on Feudal Nobles. I think it is very enlightening.

  29. Keep fighting the Good Fight. Phil Berg has a new you tube, with Alex? infowars….Stay safe..God Bless America.

  30. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    SirWilliam // July 30, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    ===========================

    Yes, I love WW and tend to agree with him almost always. But it doesn’t matter what you think or what WW thinks. It only matters what the PTB think. I am just trying to get into their heads a little. Part of a “know thy enemy” exercise.

  31. CC and anyone interested in the Gulf gusher:

    Helen at the T-Room just sent this link via e-mail (thanks, Helen!). It is as we suspected all along; the problem is NOT the DWH breach rather, ~7 miles to the southwest at a spot called the Biloxi Dome.

    If this is indeed the case, the bastids have lied through their teeth (again) for over 3 months:

    http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=931

  32. Free Speech

    I already won this argument with you cc fubo.

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 16, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    … it is also crystal clear that SCOTUS will soon take care the bo problem .
    Newsmax.com recently reported:
    “One thing appears certain: Supreme Court Justice John Roberts isn’t likely to back down to Obama. Roberts reportedly still is angry over President Obama’s decision to use the State of the Union address to scold the justices for their Citizens United v. FEC ruling, which rejected limitations on corporate and nonprofit electioneering.
    When Obama said during the State of the Union address that the ruling would “open the floodgates” to donations by foreign companies and other special interests to influence U.S. elections, Justice Samuel Alito mouthed the words “Not true.”
    The president’s decision to use his bully pulpit to frame the ruling’s political impact incorrectly may have caused lasting damage to his relationship with the judiciary. The Los Angeles Times reported on Tuesday that “Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. is still angered by what he saw as a highly partisan insult to the independent judiciary.”
    The Los Angeles Times reported Monday that a number of legal scholars now consider a clash between the expansive pro-government plans of the Obama administration and the Roberts court to be inevitable.”

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 16, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    The same thing that happened to ex-President Zelaya is going to happen to your man, bo, Carlyle.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/honduras/5677026/Honduras-supreme-court-ordered-army-coup.html

    Honduras supreme court ‘ordered army coup’

    Manuel Zelaya, the president of Honduras, was arrested by the army in a coup ordered by the country’s supreme court.

    By Jeremy McDermott, Latin America Correspondent
    Published: 8:59PM BST 28 Jun 2009

    “Today’s events originate from a court order by a competent judge. The armed forces, in charge of supporting the constitution, acted to defend the state of law and have been forced to apply legal dispositions against those who have expressed themselves publicly and acted against the dispositions of the basic law,” the country’s highest court said.

  33. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    More proof U R wrong & Simmons is right.

    Helen at the T-Room just sent this link via e-mail (thanks, Helen!). It is as we suspected all along; the problem is NOT the DWH breach rather, ~7 miles to the southwest at a spot called the Biloxi Dome.

    If this is indeed the case, the bastids have lied through their teeth (again) for over 3 months:

    http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=931

  34. Free Speech

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    More proof U R wrong & Simmons is right.

    Helen at the T-Room just sent this link via e-mail (thanks, Helen!). It is as we suspected all along; the problem is NOT the DWH breach rather, ~7 miles to the southwest at a spot called the Biloxi Dome.

    If this is indeed the case, the bastids have lied through their teeth (again) for over 3 months:

    http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=931

  35. Not to hash the past,

    However, over the last two days, I have revisted, re-read, re-listened, and re-examined as well as re-reseached this Tim Tuner fellow, his and his followers claims. Specifically, I am at a loss of words to describe.

    In a recent report, by them, they now claim over 80 Countries have now accepted them as the new government runing the USA, but they claim that it is a secret and cannot reveal those Countries even to their own followers, at this time.

    Interesting enough, Tim Turner and his “Elders” also claim as of last week, that they are in financial control of over 3 Trillion dollars.

    Not to be too far from jaw dropping shocking claims, he also states that the Entire US Milatary is supporting his overthrow and protecting him.

    I will not get into the religious claims as I am still investigating that aspect further. Nevertheless, there is suppose to be this hugh announcement in a few days for the world to see, from them and their take over of world banks, world polices and the US, including a US Militar Coup.

    I also found out why they attact people who resist them. They have been instructed to do so and how to respond. No, it is not nice.

    I am willing to bet the rent money that this hugh world and US takeover coup will be announced………………..on their own website and no where else.

    Also unbeknownest to me, they have already placed 50 Governors, 100 Senators and House Reps. Acting on our behalf.

    I cannot help but wonder if Tim is going to walk into the White House, or run this Government from his home based business.

    More to read and investigate…

  36. Philo-Publius

    New York Congressional Candidate Anthony Tolda:
    Obama is the Greatest Threat America has known; Obama’s Presidency is Illegal!

    http://tinyurl.com/2b789t8

  37. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    SueK // July 30, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    CC and anyone interested in the Gulf gusher.

    =================================

    Thank you, yes, I have been watching this unfold. What is in this article is largely consistent with my research and analysis. Several comments might help clarify.

    1. It is well known that seeps occur in a lot of places. In fact such seeps are one of the indicators as to where might be a good place to drill. So the fact that such seeps are nearby a well bore are ‘expected’ as opposed to ‘unusual’.

    2. That being said, are these leaks actually unusual in any way? Are they larger than normal? Are they new? Are they changing (say over the last few months or a year?)

    3. Do these leaks (perhaps improperly or inadequately taken into account) exacerbate or multiply the Corexit problem somehow?

    4. Very specifically – Did drilling operations cause or increase these leaks?

    5. Regardless of cause – Are these leaks indicative of a present danger? Are they a harbinger of something about to blow? Say, like Mt. St. Helens or Pintaubo (or Krakatoa!!!).

    6. Again, regardless of cause or blame – Is something big being covered up? Given the nature of this disaster, even if a cover-up were relatively small or benign, some significant heads would surely roll?

    Again, thank you for posting this for people who are interested in ‘possibilities’ and ’emerging stories’. In my reports I have tried to focus entirely on known facts/results, while only hinting a more to come by referencing various “theories and speculations”.

    With this intense level of scrutiny, maybe I will be able to promote some of this to actual facts/results soon.

  38. Free Speech

    SirWilliam // July 30, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Thanks SirWilliam. It has been established that cRAP/AGJ is a Soros/algore/Strong False Flag Operation.

    ms. helga // July 29, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    BRILLIANT WORK. Now just get Al Gore + Armand Hammer into the mix. I see what FS means about Tennesee being corrupt.
    ****************************************

    Thanks ms. helga I was going to mention Al Gore + Armand Hammer + Occidental Petroleum + Occidental College, there are many ties to algore.

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=149993.0

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14917

    http://crm114.com/algore/hammer.html
    Aussie // July 29, 2010 at 9:40

  39. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Perhaps goes without saying – – –

    I respect and honor Free Speech for a lot of different reasons. He and I even have useful exploratory conversations and topics of mutual interest. I benefit from that sort of debate and I hope he feels the same way.

    But on certain topics he has developed a “religious” fervor (not unlike other people we dare not mention) and avoids reasoned dialog.

    I am counting on the fact that well reasoned and well written discussion and analysis trumps temper tantrums.

    If that be the case, then I will continue posting here for people who understand and appreciate what I am trying to do. And again unlike some others, if and when the sense of this community might indicate that I am being counterproductive to purpose and flow here, then I will fade away and/or post on other blogs instead.

    Fair enough?

  40. Free Speech

    cc fubo when are you going to admit U R WRONG! There is another leak away from the bo/bp well head and Helen, Matt Simmon and various University Scientists are right about there being another leak?

    http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=931

  41. Philo-Publius

    The House ethics committee recommended that Rep. Charlie Rangel be reprimanded, which is the least severe punishment, according to a new report.

    The disclosure was made today by Rep. Gene Green (D-Texas), who is the panel’s chairman.
    A reprimand falls below expulsion and censure on the list of available punishments.
    http://tinyurl.com/2vh94nk

    A SLAP ON THE WRIST and everything is fine.

    Decision near on Maxine Waters ethics case…

    A House ethics subcommittee has completed its investigation into allegations of wrongdoing by Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), and could announce its next steps before lawmakers leave town for the August recess Friday, according to sources familiar with the process.

    The committee is in discussions with Waters about the case, in which investigators looked at whether she broke House rules by improperly intervening with federal officials on behalf of a local bank,
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html

  42. Citizen Carlyle 12:25 PM
    “Think about this. We like to rush to judgment that the entire legal system is corrupt. Maybe it’s different than that? Maybe they all view keeping the peace as the most important good and all other concepts (including constitutionality) as secondary?”
    ****************************
    CC, you have made an excellent point!

    Sometimes I feel that some patriots become so focused on removing the usurper that they end up with tunnel vision and fail to see all the aspects that are involved.

    How often I have read on other blogs, statements like “I want to see……dragged out in chains and taken to Gitmo” Or, better yet, “hanged, he and all his buddies”, etc. etc. Well, we all want him “out”, but that kind of talk is emotional and it “ain’t goin’ happen” – not like that.

    We do need to look at the bigger picture, and it could be that the fear of tremendous civil retribution – violence never before seen in the U.S. – is the restraining force behind the courts’ refusal to proceed with the cases brought before them. As you say, the good, patriotic folks are not going to engage in law-breaking, but the BHO supporters, including the domestic “armies” that he is recruiting, will go on a rampage that could end up being uncontrollable.
    That could and probably would culminate in a civil war, because we would have to defend ourselves in such a lawless scene.

    Therefore, the secret thinking of our leaders (I don’t believe it to be any coordinated agreement among them necessarily) is to “lay low” and “sit it out” and see what unfolds in the next several months. In the meantime BHO is moving full speed ahead with his diabolical socialism and we are losing freedoms by the minute. He’s got more cooked up than anyone could imagine.

    Therefore, one can conclude that we are in for the fight of our lives and our country. It seems that we have been shoved into a place of playing both ends against the middle. If he is not removed relatively soon in a lawful way (I’m not talking about the military hauling him off in shackles for hanging – even he deserves a trial and, as all criminals, is deemed to be innocent until proven guilty ), our country is poised to be enslaved, perhaps, irreparably so.

    If he is removed lawfully, it won’t be a simple, pie-in-the-sky, everything-back-to-normal euphoria. There will be repercussions the likes of which we’ve never seen. There is no question that failure to act on the part of the courts and politicians is not attributed to just one reason. Some don’t want to sully their personal careers, some are just plain cowards, and some are leftists in sympathy with BHO. But we should not rule out that some are aware of the consequences of violence and would rather
    “ride it out” and see what happens.

    What should we do? What should THEY do?
    The right thing. What is the right thing under these circumstances? I don’t know. My knowledge is limited. I am not an insider.

    Oh, this one thing I do know. We had better listen to ll Chronicles 7:14. (a verse or two before and after wouldn’t hurt either).

  43. bob strauss, I am giving you this information not in any way to try to prevent you from encouraging others to bully the legislative branch to intervene on their behalf with the judicial branch. No; far be it for me to urge people at this late date to try to understand how governmental separation of powers works. Or to in any way try to restrain them from conducting themselves as a brute mob. No; I have been observing this insanity for 2 (two) years now and know I would be talking to the wind, anyway. I only give you the following information as a means to instruct readers, only reading the rules in toto can convey their full effect.

    Supreme Court Rules allow the Clerk to reject all filings which violate any Rules. Thus, if all of the i’s are not dotted and t’s crossed, under the Rules, this is grounds for rejection of the filing, by the Clerk. http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/supct/1.html

    Under the Rules, characterizing the conduct of the Court or its Clerk(s) as “criminal” (“[t]here has to be a criminal investigation of what is going on”) might also be grounds for an individual lawyer to have her filings rejected. http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/supct/8.html

  44. Philo-Publius

    ‘Indignant’ Muslims reject U.S. request to counter violent extremism
    Meeting with Napolitano included promise of regular consultations

    A series of e-mails from the Department of Homeland Security, the federal agency that has warned of a threat from “right-wing extremists” like those worried about national sovereignty, reveal the agency has held a series of meetings with Muslims who apparently rejected the government’s request to help counter violent extremism.
    The committee is in discussions with Waters about the case, in which investigators looked at whether she broke House rules by improperly intervening with federal officials on behalf of a local bank,
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=185341

  45. Free Speech

    cc fubo when R U going to admit U R are WRONG about UR claim there was not a second Oil Leak?

    http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=931

    NOAA Underwater Joint Analysis Group Study

    NOAA (National Oceanographic and Aeronautical Administration) has now released their underwater study, the Joint Analysis Group (JAG) Review, which examined subsurface oil in and around the BP Deepwater Horizon well #1 – located in Mississippi Canyon block 252 – from May 19 to June 19, 2010.

    Their report presented data collected by five research vessels; the R/V Brooks McCall, R/V Ocean Veritas, R/V Walton Smith, R/V Thomas Jefferson, and R/V Gordon Gunter.

    They used a scientific method called Fluorometry to measure for underwater oil. Fluorescence Spectroscopy – a/k/a Fluorometry or Spectrofluorometry – is a type of electromagnetic spectroscopy which analyzes fluorescence. It usually utilizes a beam of ultraviolet light that excites the electrons in molecules of certain compounds and causes them to emit light of a lower energy, such as visible light. For more information on how this works, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence_spectroscopy.

    Conclusions made from their report stated that their Fluorometry measurements showed the presence of oil at a depth between 1000 and 1300 meters. They also concluded that active oil seeps were mapped at about 12 kilometers southwest of the BP Deepwater Horizon wellhead.

    As I stated above, the Biloxi Dome is located approximately 12 kilometers southwest of the BP Deepwater Horizon well. This means that NOAA and the Joint Analysis Group positively identified the Biloxi Dome to be the source of the active oil leaks.

  46. Philo-Publius

    Obama official led Soros ‘fund’ supporting world government

    Obama’s assistant secretary of state for population, refugees and migration, Eric P. Schwartz, previously served as the director of a George Soros-funded organization that promoted global governance.

    Schwartz also coordinated meetings on behalf of Obama’s transition team with a group that advocates placing more blue United Nations helmets on U.S. troops and coercing the U.S. to join the U.N.’s International Criminal Court, which could prosecute American citizens and soldiers for “war crimes” and other offenses.
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=185013

  47. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 30, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Hi CC,

    Your questions are all valid, and I’m not sure they can be answered at this point in time. Many of us in the Geological community have been kicking this around since the breach, and we’ve determined that there *no way* that volume of oil could be eminating from the breach. As a Physicist, you may have the numbers to back that theory up.

    I don’t know the subsurface Geology of that area, so it’s pretty much impossible to tell whether the oil reservoirs at the two sites are interconnected. If they are, drilling would relieve at least some of the pressure from Biloxi.

    Is it about to blow? Anyone’s guess. Depends on the gases present, volume and pressure. From what we’ve seen however, we are indeed dealing with (and I use this term loosely), an undersea oil volcano.

    I believe it may be a huge cover up, either that or total ignorance; I can’t hang my hat on the latter. Why, for example, are we being shown the coordinates of the Skandi Neptune (the February breach) and told that’s where the *actual cap* was placed rather than over the DWH?

    If you haven’t seen that short vid, here it is:

    Jury is out all around, CC; I think we’ll both continue to pursue the answers.

    Thanks for your informative post and questions. I will post any additional information that hits my monitor.

  48. Sir William – 1:14 PM
    “I cannot help but wonder if Tim is going to walk into the White House, or run this Government from his home based business.”
    **************************
    SW, you may have already seen a link that I posted several days ago, but if not, it might be helpful to your research:

    http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-1#comment-875

  49. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 30, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 30, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Sheriff Joe will have these wimpy boThu in jail in pink jumpsuits by the end of day.

    ============================

    Yeah, we need a LOT more Sheriff Joe’s. The Sheriff’s are one of the last frontiers of law and justice unbeholden to the Feds. Unfortunately the Feds keep trying to fold them in under the Homeland Security fascists. Sheriff Joe and others are going to have their wings clipped if something dramatic doesn’t happen soon.

  50. I know you good people are staying on top of the TN corruption, so I wanted to be sure you saw this: Report: Monroe County, TN officials threaten citizens distributing information about local corruption (http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/29/report-monroe-county-tn-officials-threaten-citizens-distributing-information-about-local-corruption/).

    Thanks to everyone for fighting the good fight!

  51. Philo-Publius

    Justice Department Encourages Voting by Felons as It Suppresses Military Vote

    As noted yesterday, the Obama/Holder Justice Department has been suppressing the votes of our men and women in uniform. But before you judge our liberal rulers too harshly, keep in mind that they make up for it by encouraging voting by felons:
    http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2010/07/justice-departm-4.html

  52. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    jbjd // July 30, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    bob strauss, … Supreme Court Rules allow the Clerk to reject all filings which violate any Rules.

    ===========================

    My nose smells the stink of Danny Bickell all over this!!!

  53. Free Speech

    cc fubo,

    Do u still say these computer models are wrong?

    1.

    Do you still dispute the truth of the NASA Video, cc fubo?

  54. Philo-Publius

    Dearborn Muslims Are Erecting a Statue of Helen Thomas
    http://rightwingnews.com/#post16547

    Why not…Virginia has Stalin!!

  55. Philo-Publius

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) at 2:01 pm

    My nose smells the stink of Danny Bickell all over this!!!

    ———————————————-

    Isn’t that the same guy Leo Donofrio had problems with when try to file his case?

  56. Free Speech

    Mia // July 30, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    I know you good people are staying on top of the TN corruption, so I wanted to be sure you saw this: Report: Monroe County, TN officials threaten citizens distributing information about local corruption (http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/29/report-monroe-county-tn-officials-threaten-citizens-distributing-information-about-local-corruption/).

    Thanks to everyone for fighting the good fight!
    *************************************************

    Mia, THANK YOU! The People of Monroe County need to demand that Sens. Alexander and Corker call for an investigation of demRat boCohort gov Bredesen’s involvement in this and the coverup of the murders of the Identity Theft & Voter Fraud Whistleblowers, Katherine Smith and Jim Miller.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  57. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 30, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    cc fubo when are you going to admit U R WRONG! There is another leak away from the bo/bp well head and Helen, Matt Simmon and various University Scientists are right about there being another leak?

    ==============================

    One of my most urgent and common complaints regarding your posts and your reasoning is that you often conflate multiple concepts and paint them all with the same brush.

    There are at least 3 concepts conflated in this your latests criticism. So I will do everybody the favor of addressing them separately:

    Q1. Are there other natural leaks? The answer is: Yes, quite clearly. And there have been for many years, decades, centuries, and eons.

    Q2. Are there other significant unreported and under-appreciated (cover up?) man-made leaks, specifically associated with the Macando well? The answer is: There is no evidence of this, not even any soft evidence. Of course, one interpretation is that the “cover up” is exceptionally successful. I cannot prevent anyone from drawing that conclusion.

    Q3. Is Matt Simmons (and other ‘believers’) right? The answer is: The odds are against it for reasons I have outlined before. Again as I have said before, the best position seems to be that Matt Simmons is premature. He is neither right nor wrong, yet. But we must also keep in mind that “even a blind squirrel gathers the occasional acorn”. I have chosen to ignore or discount MS because I believe the preponderance of solid evidence to be against him. But then again I am a skeptic. Those who are rather ‘believers’ by instinct may be drawn to him. I cannot prevent that. Do as you wish.

  58. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Free Speech // July 30, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    cc fubo,

    Do u still say these computer models are wrong?

    =================================

    I have told you a ‘hundred’ times. I believe the environmental disaster is under-reported and under-appreciated. Certainly I have said that Zero and his Flying Minkeys are totally mismanaging this branch of the effort – to the tune of criminal negligence for sure and most likely purposeful malfeasance.

    I believe that everything we currently know about the amount of oil, the amount of Corexit, and the implications of same, are just the tip of the iceberg.

    You are getting dangerously close to committing the Great Strawman Fallacy by keeping throwing up accusations against things I have never said and never supported.

    Perhaps you didn’t read it, but I said yesterday that we are probably in at least 90% agreement. As far as I know the ONLY things we disagree on are to what extent MS is truthful and believable, and to what extent all this mess was specifically caused and more specifically by Zero and crew. (Although as I have said, I would not consider it to be out of character for them!)

    I think those details are yet playing out.

    I don’t know why you can’t see that we are on the same side and that the glass is at least 90% full.

    Just ‘chill’ already.

  59. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Philo-Publius // July 30, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Isn’t that the same guy Leo Donofrio had problems with when try to file his case?

    =============================

    Yes, and Orly too. I don’t know if jbjd is right, but I have no reason to doubt what she posted. But if true, it is incredibly frightening. It is gaping open loophole to fraud and total politicization of the court.

    It sounds reasonable but seems to be yet another road to hell paved with good intentions.

    I am absolutely sure that any document submitted to the USSC that is more than one or two pages long has at least one ‘error’. So this law/rule gives unlimited and unsupervised power to these clerks to totally control the agenda and case load of the court.

    This is totally unacceptable. (May be true, but none the less still unacceptable).

  60. Why wasn’t Dinglebarry Soetoro invited to the royal Clinton wedding this weekend?

  61. Free Speech

    To: acordan@wkrn.com;

    asolomon@wsmv.com;

    dferrier@wsmv.com;

    dkalodimos@wsmv.com;

    jbdunn@fox17.com;

    kahoward@tennessean.com;

    Michael.Todd@wsmv.com;

    local@tennessean.com;

    nyoung@tennessean.com;

    60m@cbsnews.com

    Subject: TN Sheriff implicated in Coverup of Murder of RepublicanElections Commissioner.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/29/report-monroe-county-tn-officials-threaten-citizens-distributing-information-about-local-corruption/

    The People of Monroe County need to demand that Sens. Alexander and Corker call for an investigation of demRat boCohort gov Bredesen’s involvement in this and the coverup of the murders of the Identity Theft & Voter Fraud Whistleblowers, Katherine Smith and Jim Miller.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  62. Free Speech

    Mia, I sent the report to Media in Nashville. We need to hound the local press to investigate boCohort gov Bredesen’s involvement in this. As you may recall, Bredesen ordered a 200 Man SWAT Team to Monroe County to intimidate peaceful Patriots.

    Mia // July 30, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    I know you good people are staying on top of the TN corruption, so I wanted to be sure you saw this: Report: Monroe County, TN officials threaten citizens distributing information about local corruption

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/29/report-monroe-county-tn-officials-threaten-citizens-distributing-information-about-local-corruption/

    Thanks to everyone for fighting the good fight!
    *************************************************

    Mia, THANK YOU! The People of Monroe County need to demand that Sens. Alexander and Corker call for an investigation of demRat boCohort gov Bredesen’s involvement in this and the coverup of the murders of the Identity Theft & Voter Fraud Whistleblowers, Katherine Smith and Jim Miller.

    https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/nashville

  63. I think the preparation for riots in the aftermath of Obama leaving the Oval Office in handcuffs started back in the Bush Administration

    Note to my son from back in Nov. 2008

    Look, let’s hope I am really wrong about this.

    Since my last email to you some new information has been revealed that kind of has me spooked.

    If WE know about this surely the FBI, CIA knows this. Remember what I said about riots? These people already know what is on Obama’s birth certificate.

    Does Bush know about this? I think that Bush is in on the whole thing. I think he’s carrying a burden of knowledge that he would love to be able to unload, which would explain the reason for many of his decisions. It is unthinkable that he would not be prepared to cope with the results of a national catastrophe, by using the military, and martial law is his means. It just may be that the day will come when historians will enlighten us about these affairs, and that it will show Bush to have been a rather lonely hero.

    Recently there has been a large movement of troops to the northern command, a whole brigade.

    On Tuesday, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request demanding information from the government on U.S. Northern Command’s (NORTHCOM) deployment of the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Combat Brigade Team (BCT) on U.S. soil for “civil unrest” and “crowd control” duties.

    Last month, Army Times published a piece detailing how the 1st BCT spent “35 of the last 60 months in Iraq.” The 1st BCT–also known as the “Raiders”–carried out house-to-house raids and engaged in close-quarters combat in the city of Ramadi to suppress Iraqi resistance to U.S. occupation, according to a report on the World Socialist Website.

    Maybe you recall my October 11 piece, “Militarizing the Homeland:” NORTHCOM’s Joint Task Force-Civil Support,” that described NORTHCOM’s Vibrant Response exercise at Fort Stewart, Georgia.

    In tandem with the elite 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, the 1st BCT participated in mock drills designed to “coordinate with local governments and interagency organizations such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Federal Emergency Management Agency,” U.S. Northern Command News reported.

    The Pentagon revealed that 1st BCT is a key component of NORTHCOM’s Joint Task Force-Civil Support (JTF-CS), designed to “execute both homeland defense and civil support missions.” As I pointed out in a piece earlier this month, current Army doctrine is heavily-weighted towards contingency planning for “civil disturbances.”

    I just can’t shake the feeling that we are in serious trouble.

    http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx

    Read the terse response from the press conference to a WND
    reporter who asked live about Obama’s birth certificate –
    and man oh man is it terse. The WND journo is basically told
    to shut up now.

    11/24/08 – Question for Tony Fratto, Deputy Press Secretary: “Good. The CEO of WorldNetDaily has called on the President-elect to release a birth certificate listing the hospital and names of parents. The White House believes that this would fully satisfy the constitutional requirement, don’t you?”

    Mr. Fratto’s response: “I don’t think I have anything to say on that, Lester, and I think we’re going to end it right there. Thank you.” And that’s the end of the press conference.

    If you follow the link you can watch it.

    He could have said some pap about he was sure that Obama was
    a good decent American and just pushed the question away.
    He didn’t.

    A faint scent of something on the wind, but what?

    Here is the promise part:

    At the first sign of trouble I want you to come to Naples. It will be far safer than JV. Keep your car full of gas and your pocket full of money. ATM and credit cards may not be working. Be very careful who you share this with. Troop movements are confidential.

  64. And Bickell has been the reason why I have been saying all along that the SCOTUS will never hear a WORD from anyone. I am certain that he is the Soetoro collaborator at the SCOTUS, and HAS BEEN from day one. It was easy to see. In effect the SCOTUS has been NEUTRALISED, Just as the lower courts have been COMPROMISED. NOTHING LEFT but WE THE PEOPLE. Because we have waited for too long it is now possible that we too are past the point of no return.

  65. Free Speech

    Sam Sewell // July 30, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    I think the preparation for riots in the aftermath of Obama leaving the Oval Office in handcuffs started back in the Bush Administration

    ******************************************

    I do too.

    Since I first wrote my comment about intelligence operatives in the know about bo on the Steady Drip, I have thought that the whole bo POTUS Charade was an intelligence sting to gather info on bo’s involvement with worldwide Terrorist Networks.

    Pardon me for second guessing but bo should have been removed before he destroyed the Gulf of Mexico.

  66. Philo-Publius

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) at 2:27 pm

    Philo-Publius // July 30, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Isn’t that the same guy Leo Donofrio had problems with when try to file his case?

    =============================
    Yes, and Orly too.

    —————————–
    I remember when Leo D posted about his experience with him. Leo D went into great detail describing how Bickell had attempted to obstruct his efforts. Some may disagree with his legal conclusions but he knows the legal process and how to properly file cases. I thought Leo D also indicated he was going to file a complaint but its been so long, I don’t recall the details.

  67. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) at 2:27 pm

    Philo-Publius // July 30, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    I thought Leo D also indicated he was going to file a complaint but its been so long, I don’t recall the details.

    ================================

    Yeah, and right about that time he threw a major depressive fit and swore off anything and everything. And went back to playing poker and writing songs.

    He returned very briefly to help with the ‘attack’ on Hawaii DOH and the Information Policies people. He had gathered enough information to pursue a court case against them for violating their own rules and for lying. Then he got pizzed at that TerriK woman that had lured him into that line of attack and went all depressed again.

    He did not surface again until he got involved with Steve Pidgeon on the Chrysler Dealer debacle. Since then he has been busy.

    I may have missed some details or a minor depressive episode here and there, but I think I remember the essence of it.

  68. bob strauss

    CC, and Philo Publius,
    Re: Chrysler Dealers and Quo Warranto
    Posted in Uncategorized on March 11, 2010 by naturalborncitizen

    Just a quick update on the Quo Warranto aspect of our representing the Chrysler dealers. Both Steve Pidgeon and I agree that our clients should exhaust all possible remedies pertaining to the Chrysler bankruptcy before seeking Ex Relator status in the DC District Court. Filing a petition now in the DC District Court would be premature as we’ve recently filed a Notice of Appeal with the Southern District of New York. But we do represent 82 former Chrysler dealers – led by James Anderer – who support a future quo warranto action.

    Furthermore, it’s important to note that the bankruptcy action does not allege the Government sought dealer rejections. Our case relies on the record of the entire bankruptcy proceeding which unequivocally exhibits that – while dealer restructuring was a future goal of New Chrysler – all key witnesses, including Old Chrysler’s CEO and Fiat executive Alfredo Altavilla, testified that neither the US Government nor Fiat ever requested dealer restructuring as a condition precedent to the deal closing. The record is crystal clear on that issue. Judge Gonzalez changed Alfredo’s answer in his Rejection Opinion by an act of judicial ventriloquism.

    Therefore, the record exhibits that the Government was not directly involved in the decision to reject the Chrysler dealers. Whereas, the quo warranto will be based on a “but for” argument pertaining to unconstitutional use of TARP funds. But for the improper use of TARP funds, the Government would not have gifted Chrysler to Fiat and our clients would not have had their businesses ripped from them.

    It’s an important legal distinction between the underlying bankruptcy case and the pending quo warranto.

    Leo C. Donofrio, Esq. for the Law Office of Pidgeon & Donofrio GP

  69. bob strauss

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    Free Speech // July 30, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Sam Sewell // July 30, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    I think the preparation for riots in the aftermath of Obama leaving the Oval Office in handcuffs started back in the Bush Administration

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    I do too.

    Since I first wrote my comment about intelligence operatives in the know about bo on the Steady Drip, I have thought that the whole bo POTUS Charade was an intelligence sting to gather info on bo’s involvement with worldwide Terrorist Networks.

    Pardon me for second guessing but bo should have been removed before he destroyed the Gulf of Mexico.
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    Obama will not leave office without reading a speech from his teleprompter, to anyone who still believes what he says is not a lie, if those people can be found.

    The Obama resignation speech will either stir up his followers to riot, or stifle their anger so they won’t, but to operate as if we are living in Kenya, and afraid to act because of possible violence is unacceptable. The law is the law, and it’s to be applied to everyone equally regardless of the consequences.

  70. bob strauss @ 5:50 pm
    “The law is the law, and it’s to be applied to everyone equally regardless of the consequences.
    but to operate as if we are living in Kenya, and afraid to act because of possible violence is unacceptable”
    In Chicago what was burnt originally is still standing on the South and West sides, the American people would not be in a generous mood to rebuild after Obama and his nonsense.
    Some have been threatening riots since the 60’s it still does not excuse lawbreakers. Let us hope most Americans are smarter than this criminal element of drug dealers, pimps, prostitutes, thieves etc.

  71. bob strauss

    jbjd, I read that Orly’s 300 page submission, for a stay of the sanctions against her, to Justice Thomas was denied by Justice Thomas, not Souter or Bickell, the clerks. Now you are saying the clerks denied her request most likely. Which is it? Was it denied by Thomas, or was it rejected by the clerks and they lied and said Thomas denied the stay.

    Even the appearance of impropriety damages the credibility of SCOTUS. This mess needs to be cleaned up. The tentacles of the Obama fraud conspiracy run deep throughout the government, and appears to have influence in the justice system and the courts including SCOTUS.

  72. bob strauss

    Michelle, I also believe Faarakan and the black Muslims are more deeply involved in this illegal usurpers regime than has been disclosed by any media. They are in the background, so suspicions of their involvement are down played, sort of like Jeremiah Wright, he’s still there, but he’s off the radar.

  73. bob strauss

    Michelle, They are all friends with Mo mar Qaddafi of Libya.

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    One of Washington D.C.’s most feared and fearless corruption watchers has told WND he intends to file an ethics complaint to have Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan disbarred from practicing before the court she aspires to join – and possibly subjected to criminal prosecution – for her role in an escalating controversy over partial-birth abortion.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=184317
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  75. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    bob strauss // July 30, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    … but to operate as if we are living in Kenya, and afraid to act because of possible violence is unacceptable. The law is the law, and it’s to be applied to everyone equally regardless of the consequences.

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    Maybe America is truly the Last Great Hope – or perhaps you are naive.

    You don’t have to “act like Kenya” – you just have to act like our white blood brothers in Western Europe. Do you think they are enacting Sharia laws and putting up with all the other Muslim cr-p because it is somehow the right thing to do? Hell no. They are doing it precisely because they are terrified of civil unrest. And the Muslims know this and it feeds their actions in a cycle of violence and appeasement.

    I hate to be pessimistic, but I see our American PTBs acting the exact same way. The only difference is that we are a few years behind. I’m sure a major goal of the Obama crowd is to ‘progress’ us forward 10-20 years in only 1 or 2 years of calender time.

  76. Citizen Carlyle (FUBO)

    bob strauss // July 30, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Default Papers prepped to disbar Kagan

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    This is superb and awesome and clearly needs to be done. She is too dangerous to be let within 10 miles of ANY court of law.

    However, I predict that no authority will touch this. The potato is too hot. They will either punt it on basis of standing or jurisdiction or will slow roll it until it is too late.

    Any bets????

  77. @Bob Strauss,

    I agree with the comment that they are all friends of Qaddafi of Libya.

    As an observer, one of the most notable things about the allied invasion of Iraq was that Qaddafi who had been a sabre rattler for years suddenly backed down when he realized that his country could be next.

    It was totally disgraceful the way that the Lockerbie bomber was allowed to be released from prison.

    As an observer, I see that there are very close ties between Øbama and the likes of Louis Farrakhan. In fact they are neighbours… and when Øbama was in Chicago in May he attended a BBQ at Farrakhan’s place… which was a short walk for them.

    As an observer, I am speculating that the Trinity United Church is actually a front for NOI – they pretend to be Christian but Jeremiah Wright was a Muslim before he was a Christian preacher.

  78. bob strauss

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    Citizen Carlyle (FUBO) // July 30, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    bob strauss // July 30, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Default Papers prepped to disbar Kagan

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    This is superb and awesome and clearly needs to be done. She is too dangerous to be let within 10 miles of ANY court of law.

    However, I predict that no authority will touch this. The potato is too hot. They will either punt it on basis of standing or jurisdiction or will slow roll it until it is too late.

    Any bets????
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  79. Citizen Carlyle 7:24 PM

    “However, I predict that no authority will touch this. The potato is too hot. They will either punt it on basis of standing or jurisdiction or will slow roll it until it is too late.

    Any bets???? (re. Elena Kagan)
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    An ethics complaint filed against Elena Kagan to have her disbarred is going to take some time to work its way through the system. Right? Or wrong?

    In the meantime she will be approved by the Senate before the above action. If she is already seated on the Supreme Court can she later be removed if it is proven that she lied? I only wish that something could be done to keep her off the highest court in the land. She is completely unworthy and incompetent to be seated.

  80. Aussie – 7:55 PM
    “As an observer, I see that there are very close ties between Øbama and the likes of Louis Farrakhan. In fact they are neighbours… and when Øbama was in Chicago in May he attended a BBQ at Farrakhan’s place… which was a short walk for them.”
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    Yes, Aussie, and all of this stuff was suppressed by most of the media, including, and most notably the Jeremiah Wright saga. The American public was deceived, no question about it. BHO lied repeatedly about the real muslim and black liberation theology connections. Include with that the Marxist ties with Bill Ayers and comrades.

  81. bob strauss

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    Aussie // July 30, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    @Bob Strauss,

    I agree with the comment that they are all friends of Qaddafi of Libya.

    As an observer, one of the most notable things about the allied invasion of Iraq was that Qaddafi who had been a sabre rattler for years suddenly backed down when he realized that his country could be next.

    It was totally disgraceful the way that the Lockerbie bomber was allowed to be released from prison.

    As an observer, I see that there are very close ties between Øbama and the likes of Louis Farrakhan. In fact they are neighbours… and when Øbama was in Chicago in May he attended a BBQ at Farrakhan’s place… which was a short walk for them.

    As an observer, I am speculating that the Trinity United Church is actually a front for NOI – they pretend to be Christian but Jeremiah Wright was a Muslim before he was a Christian preacher.
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    Aussie, I think they are all Muslims pretending to be Christians. I think it’s called Taqiyya. Obama is number one liar.

  82. bob strauss

    CC and Cabby, What’s going to happen to Kagen and Sotomayor when Obama is finally declared ineligible?

  83. Sam Sewell says….At the first sign of trouble I want you to come to Naples. It will be far safer than JV. Keep your car full of gas and your pocket full of money. ATM and credit cards may not be working.

    Uhhh, the pumps can be turned off to keep everyone in place—I NEVER go home with less than 3/4 FULL tank.

    Money…in the closet.

    Bug out bag ready in same closet. Blankets and pillows in SUV.

    UHH..Sam…air traffic will not happen if TSHTF!!

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  85. bob strauss // July 30, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    CC and Cabby, What’s going to happen to Kagen and Sotomayor when Obama is finally declared ineligible?
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    What should happen is his appointments be declared null and void. What will happen? Anybody’s guess.

  86. bob strauss @ 6:30 pm
    I remember seeing I think they called themselves Black Muslims then in downtown Chicago. The ladies would be completely covered in white and they had something on their heads with a red crescent emblem on it. The ladies were always modest, and I think they were just looking for donations. Any radical element was not seen so I don’t know if they are a part of this group or a fringe element.
    Faarakan seems to incite in a quiet but insidious kind of way, yes I think these groups should be looked at-they are never what they seem on the surface.
    I would love to see what Pastor Manning could do in one month on the South Side of Chicago, it would be a totally different place. These so-called ministers like the Rev. Wright are not very good shepherds of a flock.

  87. @Michelle,

    if you dig into the NOI there are some really nasty things revealed. Do you remember the 4 cops that were killed earlier this year in Portland I think it was? Well those 4 cops were killed by members of NOI.

    Have you ever heard of the black and white murders (I think that is the right name). The perpetrators also killed Hispanics. They were members of NOI… it was part of being NOI to murder white people.

    We have all heard of Malcolm Little aka Malcolm X. He was a very fiery speaker in his time. He was assassinated in front of his wife and children whilst at a meeting. Malcolm X had believed in NOI but he left them when he realized a few things. Malcolm was in fact a good man… anyway… who do you think ordered his murder? Louis Farrakhan…..

  88. Aussie // July 31, 2010 at 2:17 am

    Aussie, I too have listened to many speeches by Malcolm X. He was an amazing speaker and although I know that he was a Marxist, his words were grounded in his heart. I actually have a lot of respect for him. At the time, there was no doubt that black people in our country were severly mistreated. He taught black people to stand up and be individuals. Louis Farrakhan cannot hold a candle to Malcolm X.

  89. @Paxson, to be honest I am not sure that Malcolm X was a Marxist…. I do remember hearing about his fiery speeches. However, my memory of him is quite hazy… and that means relying upon what I read on the Internet.

    Despite his fiery speeches, I have no reason to believe that in the end he wanted what was best for blacks. His split with Farrakhan and the other dude speaks volumes about his actual integrity. It is an integrity that his maintained by his daughters. I have heard some of the speeches of one of the daughters and the lady is very, very dignified, which is a far cry from the behaviour of MissHell Øbama

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