** Update, The lastest CDC numbers are at the bottom. 5/08/2009, 12:15 PM ET **
I, like many of you, am watching reports of the Swine flu, H1N1, more carefully each day. I have been visiting the CDC site with regularity and due to my math background and inquisitive nature, something in the data stood out this morning. It may mean nothing, but it is a curiousity, and given Obama’s connections to Chicago and Baxter International being located there, there is cause for more scrutiny.
Notice in the CDC report of confirmed flu cases by state that Illinois has almost twice as many cases as the next highest state. Illinois has 204, California, with a much higher population and located adjacent to Mexico has 106, Texas with a large population and located adjacent to Mexico has 91 and New York with a much larger population has 98. The more I have pondered these numbers and logistics, the more curious I have become.
CDC Human Cases of H1N1 Flu by state:
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/update.htm
Let me know what you think
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States
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Laboratory
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Deaths
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| Alabama | 4 | ||
| Arizona | 48 | ||
| California | 106 | ||
| Colorado | 17 | ||
| Connecticut | 4 | ||
| Delaware | 38 | ||
| Florida | 5 | ||
| Georgia | 3 | ||
| Hawaii | 3 | ||
| Idaho | 1 | ||
| Illinois | 204 | ||
| Indiana | 15 | ||
| Iowa | 5 | ||
| Kansas | 7 | ||
| Kentucky* | 2 | ||
| Louisiana | 7 | ||
| Maine | 4 | ||
| Maryland | 4 | ||
| Massachusetts | 71 | ||
| Michigan | 9 | ||
| Minnesota | 1 | ||
| Missouri | 4 | ||
| Nebraska | 4 | ||
| Nevada | 5 | ||
| New Hampshire | 2 | ||
| New Jersey | 7 | ||
| New Mexico | 8 | ||
| New York | 98 | ||
| North Carolina | 7 | ||
| Ohio | 5 | ||
| Oklahoma | 1 | ||
| Oregon | 15 | ||
| Pennsylvania | 2 | ||
| Rhode Island | 2 | ||
| South Carolina | 17 | ||
| Tennessee | 2 | ||
| Texas | 91 | 2 | |
| Utah | 8 | ||
| Virginia | 11 | ||
| Washington | 23 | ||
| Wisconsin | 26 | ||
| TOTAL (41) | 896 cases | 2 deaths |
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States*
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Laboratory
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Deaths
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| Alabama | 4 | ||
| Arizona | 131 | ||
| California | 107 | ||
| Colorado | 25 | ||
| Connecticut | 4 | ||
| Delaware | 39 | ||
| Florida | 6 | ||
| Georgia | 3 | ||
| Hawaii | 5 | ||
| Idaho | 1 | ||
| Illinois | 392 | ||
| Indiana | 29 | ||
| Iowa | 5 | ||
| Kansas | 12 | ||
| Kentucky** | 3 | ||
| Louisiana | 7 | ||
| Maine | 4 | ||
| Maryland | 4 | ||
| Massachusetts | 83 | ||
| Michigan | 49 | ||
| Minnesota | 1 | ||
| Missouri | 9 | ||
| Nebraska | 4 | ||
| Nevada | 8 | ||
| New Hampshire | 3 | ||
| New Jersey | 7 | ||
| New Mexico | 8 | ||
| New York | 174 | ||
| North Carolina | 7 | ||
| Ohio | 6 | ||
| Oklahoma | 4 | ||
| Oregon | 15 | ||
| Pennsylvania | 2 | ||
| Rhode Island | 7 | ||
| South Carolina | 29 | ||
| South Dakota | 1 | ||
| Tennessee | 36 | ||
| Texas | 93 | 2 | |
| Utah | 24 | ||
| Virginia | 14 | ||
| Washington | 33 | ||
| Washington, D.C. | 1 | ||
| Wisconsin | 240 | ||
| TOTAL*(43) | 1639 cases | 2 deaths |
(As of May 8, 2009, 11:00 AM ET)
Citizen WElls 
CW………..After reading the posting,and considering the number of cases in both WISCONSIN,and Illinois, it would seem that a great deal of scrutiny should be undertaken on the activities of the company in question,as well as Soetoro’s involvement in it both past, and present. The map provided actually shows many more cases in ILL.,than 204. Somebody might have made a mistake in transcribing.
CW……………..I beg your forgiveness, I was looking at the wrong column. Everything jibes. Further I agree that a much closer examination of everything seems to be in order.
Hi CW,
Here’s what I think is happening: H1N1 testing protocols are indeed going out to the various states however, some have not yet received the protocols and some may not be equipped to handle the analysis.
My guess is that samples are still being sent to the CDC because individual state labs may lack the capabilities to test samples; not all state labs are created equal. This, of course, slows down the analysis and confirmation when samples need to be sent to Atlanta; I’m sure there are many more cases in states currently reporting 3 or 4 confirmed cases.
With local testing capabilities, my state’s confirmed cases has just shot up to 81.
I don’t think there’s anything sinister about IL’s high count, but who knows at this point?
Are there any stats available for migrant workers and/or illegal Mexicans in each state?
Oh….here is the link to the Berg/Taitz/Hale lawsuit mess if you just need a long read. Funny stuff about Hale starts on page 45
Click to access Zlibericomplaint05.pdf
Another thing, what’s the weather like in IL? In TX right now, it’s pretty warm. I think we’re supposed to be in the 90s today. More people outside, and I think that flu virus kind of dies some in the heat, doesn’t it, SueK? I could be wrong, but I thought that I read that. Sunlight is great! Bring on the Vit. D!!!
If the weather in IL is cooler, more people indoors, the bug can spread to others if you’re in buildings, etc., I guess.
SueK.
You are correct.
However, it is a little odd that IL stands out in this stat and may also lead the nation
in corruption.
It would seem that if the pandemic is, and was intentionally caused by certain people working for Soetoro, it could only be for the purpose of providing greater government control over our lives. The pandemic gives Soetoro a much greater hold over all of us. I personally believe that the caldron is very soon to boil over. When this happens there WILL be chaos within the US. I can’t help wonder how many people are going to simply sit still and watch everything they own go down the drain. Soetoro has PROMISED them that this will not happen. Before this all comes to an end I believe we will witness unemployment into the 20% range and people living along railroad right of ways in tents, and pasteboard shacks, as was the case in the 20s, and 30s. Open revolt will soon follow.
What I want to know is if the CDC is claiming that Mexico trips aren’t the source of the virus reaching the U.S., where in God’s Green Earth did the virus come from???
Either the CDC is lying or the virus is coming from one of 3 sources:
1. A mutution from a pig farm or other natural source
2. A lab
3. Illegal Mexicans in the U.S.
I’m going with option 3, the biggest threat to our nation right now. What’s it going to take, a bunch of minutemen going to the border and taking matters into their own hands????
Oh….here is the link to the Berg/Taitz/Hale lawsuit mess if you just need a long read. Funny stuff about Hale starts on page 45…
That man has such a filthy potty mouth. That stuff sounds like little kids who don’t get their way and pitch a fit.
“However, it is a little odd that IL stands out in this stat and may also lead the nation
in corruption.”
Maybe that’s why it has the most!
And that leads me to my next theory:
Mexico knows the virus was genetically mutated by various labs in the U.S. In order to minimize the threat of casualties, U.S. pharmacutical companies decided to experiment at several of the larger pig farms in Mexico instead of the U.S. Due to an accident at one of the plants (think Union Carbide), the virus leaked into the local water supply near a small town in Mexico.
Ultimately the virus has spread, including Mexico City. The Mexican government knows the virus originated in the U.S. and they know how it was created and where it came from.
The federal government threatens to close the border. Mexico has dirt on who’s involved and threatens the U.S. to release its information regarding the virus to the world. The President of Mexico says to Soetoro “you better keep the borders open so that my people can get medical care if needed or I will expose the U.S.” To keep things under wraps, Soetoro requests the DHS to handle this case to keep a lid on the problem while ensuring the border remains open. After all, the CPB is a branch of the Department of Homeland Security.
There’s simply no other reason for the DHS to be running the show on this virus other than ensuring the border remains open.
I wouldn’t blame Mexico for doing what they’re doing either, especially when the U.S. has created this pandemic out of greed.
Does anyone know how many new cases of H1N1 was reported in New York AFTER the Airforce One alleged photo op?
MAYBE IL. WOULD QUALIFY FOR SPECIAL EMERGENCY MONEY OR STATE FUNDS SO THAT IS WHY THE NUMBERS ARE SO HIGH , I WONDER WHAT AREA OF IL THESE CASES WERE FROM DOES ANYONE KNOW
CADY,
It could be high because of the high number of pig farms in the state. If pigs are coming in infected from Mexico it would explain a lot.
Sure, you won’t get the flu from eating pork, but you can certainly get swine flu from pigs.
SueK and CW. I too would agree with SueK if not WS had an average rate. But they are neighboring states and have an incredible amount of cross border commerce….
This all smacks of a thing that was done by the Federal Government in the 1940s,here in Indiana. Some alleged manufactured viruses were dropped upon the citizens of Fort Wayne (without our knowledge) from an aircraft. Decades later we learned that it was done to study the effects that it would have on people. Unfortunately nobody was aware that they were participating in an INVOLUNTARY test. Nobody seemed to care whether they were being used as guinea pigs or not. I personally believe that one hell of a class action lawsuit against the Federaf Government would have been both appropriate, and justified.
sandy // May 8, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Sandy, I’m sure there are some ‘guesstimates’ of the number somewhere, but these folks pretty much stay under the radar.
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kittycat // May 8, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Hi Kittycat, have just checked IL’s weather and it seems that they’re experiencing a typical spring pattern as far as temps are concerned.
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Hi CW, agreed that the numbers are up but maybe Soetoro wanted to make sure his home state had the best testing technology available? Just a guess.
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Hi OldSalt, That was my previous question on another blog-what else was coming out of AF1 other than exhaust during that flyover?
SUEK…………….Did you recieve any comments that reflect any daylight? A sudden radical increase of H1N1 after the flyover would seem to me to be a ligitimate question.
A lady in Canada just died of it, and she was in her 30s.
possibly of interest on the topic of flu
http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=950
oldsalt76 // May 8, 2009 at 2:06 pm
SUEK…………….Did you recieve any comments that reflect any daylight? A sudden radical increase of H1N1 after the flyover would seem to me to be a ligitimate question.
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Nothing, OldSalt . I don’t think anyone replied to my question. This (like many other topics), may only be known by a scant few. I’ll keep trying.
Off topic, but important. D.C., 9/12/09:
http://912dc.org/
kittycat,
We’re hearing conflicting reports on this. Some are saying young woman, others are saying elderly.
No matter. The virus is spreading 2 ways:
1. Those traveling to and from Mexico
2. Exposure to infected pigs
Canada confirmed back on May 3rd that the A/H1N1 was found in infected pigs.
http://en.ce.cn/World/Americas/200905/03/t20090503_18974949.shtml
That’s how the virus is spreading, even when there is no evidence of travel to Mexico.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090506/hl_afp/healthflucanadascience_20090506170331;_ylt=Ak6pYqU6b33TnJ0xm1Gs1viJOrgF
Important development.
JeffM // May 8, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Hi Jeff,
I don’t have this info but maybe you do: Are pigs being tested in the U.S. and if so, any infected to date?
I ask because last week, the Mexican Government reported *no* infected pigs there.
Any wisdom?
This is off topic, but is anyone else having problems opening up WND? Every time that I tried, it opens up but it’s very, very slow.
thanks
SueK,
I have found nothing that indicates pigs in the U.S. are being tested nor how many are infected. But I would assume they are, considering there are Mexican farmers in domestic pig farms and processing plants, just like there is in Canada.
If you want to know why things are spreading, take a look at the pig farm down in Mexico where supposedly it all originated from (warning: graphic photos)…
http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20090501-origin-h1n1-virus-la-gloria-smithfield-pork-pig-farm-contamination
The article notes something of interest. The farm is linked to, Granjas Carroll, right down the street.
http://www.granjascarroll.com/
And they were involved in a massive contamination lawsuit regarding the site back in the late 90’s and was covered up to protect the farm:
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=VP&p_theme=vp&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAFFC46A692D9A3&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM
SueK,
I have a comment awaiting moderation, but to answer your question, I have not seen, heard, or read of any U.S. pig farms or pigs being tested.
I would assume they are, but they aren’t telling us they are nor what the results are either.
Here is a good starting point, however. Data comes from 1999:
http://www.hsus.org/farm/news/ournews/swine_flu_virus_origin_1998_042909.html
Alan Keyes has been arrested
Too bad Dr. Keyes isn’t our president.
Why do these people treat having an abortion as akin to having an unwanted tooth pulled?
It is murder pure and simple. The violence perpetuated againt the unborn is just as evil as what was done to human beings in Cambodia and in WWII.
Killing human life to erase the consequences of irresponsible behavior is beyone my ability to justify.
I am glad Keyes and others are making a stand. Obutta speaking and receiving an honorary degree is like Hitler getting a peace prize
Thanks, Jeff….I’ll explore the U.S. swine-testing protocols in a little while.
Being a critter-lover, not only does H1N1 disturb me, but the conditions of these ‘farms,’ as well.
sandy // May 8, 2009 at 4:34 pm
I guess waterboarding isn’t OK but abortion is?
Why do these people treat having an abortion as akin to having an unwanted tooth pulled?
I would say a lot of them are deceived. Then some just don’t really trust that people were created in the image of elohim, so human life is not really anything special to them.
I know Sue….that makes no sense. Most of these people are anti-death penalty too.
Kitty…..even if one doesn’t believe in JC, most still can admit that the Holocaust was wrong. I just do not understand why they don’t see that this is the same thing.
I am glad for the efforts of the pro-life activists. I just saw that support for abortion is down to below 1994 levels this year. That is a good thing.
And BTW…..a government that supports abortion here and abroad cannot be trusted when it comes to these virus flare ups…..
Maybe I better take another look at those fema camps. Maybe they are for the sick. Maybe they are looking for ways to only kill off all of the conservative minded terrorist threats….a targeted virus…hmmmmmmmmm
JeffM at 1:02 pm
If I told you exactly how I felt upon reading your comments, CW would not put it up. It is a shame for people like you to blame Mexicans for this disease; illegal immigration has been coming and going into the US for years and never once has something like this happen.
What’s really got me going is that this virus broke into the news AFTER BHO’s visit to our country. Yes, I’m Mexican and damn proud of it and NO, I don’t have the virus and I have yet to meet someone that has it. There are many influenza cases down here but not the H1N1. Whether this virus is real or not, it is definitely something we didn’t ask for, yet we’re discriminated everyone we go; friendly countries are turning their backs on us, restricting access afraid we may carry the “Mexican influenza” virus into their countries. WTF!
Is this what that U.S. agency meant when they say that they feared Mexico & Pakistan were going to collapse?? Things aren’t so well in Pakistan right now…so that takes care of one. Now, as far as my country is concerned, we’re a peaceful nation with no involvement with wars…except the war on drugs but that’s no enough to make us collapse…disease can.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98272F00&show_article=1
First Canadian dies of H1N1 flu.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090508/h1n1_death_090508/20090508?hub=TopStories
Not much more to Canadian’s medical pre-conditions except that she had respiratory problems. Not very useful info.
Bailey,
I do understand your position. Honestly, Bailey, a whole lot of us feel that this wasn’t caused by anything Mexico at all. Many of us think that somehow this was let out by someone. And I personally think that they used Mexico to spread it first. That’s my opinion. Mexico would be a good place for those creeps to start this because look how many tourists come there and then there’s spring break and lots go to Mexico.
Regardless of where it was started first, this is serious. People have died from this, in Mexico and other places. Maybe it was let out in several places at once. I wouldn’t put it past them, Bailey.
Something is “fishy”/”piggy” with the numbers
in my opinion. The numbers seem strangely
high in few states, especially Illinois. And why is
MA up there? Teddy K–oink, oink.
In Ohio: we have pigs, we have migrant workers,
and we have plenty of Mexican/Illegal Workers.
Our numbers should be MUCH higher.
KEYES for President
Thank you, Dr. Keyes, for standing up.
“Don’t Tread on Them” (the unborn).
Yes, Kittycat, WND has been slow to open.
I had problems with it recently, too.
Maddie // May 8, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Something is “fishy”/”piggy” with the numbers
in my opinion. The numbers seem strangely
high in few states, especially Illinois. And why is
MA up there? Teddy K–oink, oink.
In Ohio: we have pigs, we have migrant workers,
and we have plenty of Mexican/Illegal Workers.
Our numbers should be MUCH higher.
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Boy, Maddie, I’d *love* to blame Teddy ‘pour me a drink’ Kennedy for this. I’d also love to get John Kerry and Barney Frank in on it, too. Nothing would make me happier.
But, I can’t.
My theory was posted today. See the top of this blog:
SueK // May 8, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Others have a different opinion as to why, but this is my best guess.
LA man “detained” pulled off the road and
questioned about his “Don’t Tread on Me”
bumper sticker. Left to stand on side of
road for 30 mins. while police officer checked
his background. Officer called “Don’t Tread on
Me” a “subversive” message. Driver– an
extremist ?!
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I’ve been seeing more “Don’t Tread on
Me” stickers on vehicles in Ohio, wonder
how many people are getting pulled over here?
I need to get one for my van.
Thanks, SueK, I see what you mean.
SueK.
Unless something has changed, Iowa is the #1 producer of hogs
and NC is #2.
Start a thread on the resignation of Caldera,something is very wrong here. The Great One had nothing but praise for Caldera .Don’t let him be the “scapegoat” for this horrific “2nd Attack” on the citizens of NYC.
Bailey,
I understand your frustrations, but I also would expect the world to want to limit contact with Americans if a potentially threatening virus supposedly started here. However, here at CW we pretty much question everything and are not so sure it started but was perpetuated onto Mexicans. So actually we are watching your back
Bailey // May 8, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Bailey, I believe you may have read JeffM’s post incorrectly; he wasn’t blaming Mexico, he was blaming the U.S. for creating and distributing this bug. Please re-read the very last line of his post.
“illegal immigration has been coming and going into the US for years and never once has something like this happen. ”
I must respectfully disagree with you, here. Many diseases had been eradicated in the U.S. and now, they’re back. A good example is Tuberculosis. Now, I’m not talking strictly about Mexicans rather, any illegal immigrant coming from any country who hasn’t been screened for disease; if they’re entering the U.S. illegally, they’re not screened. This is exactly what’s sucking the life out of our social and healthcare systems.
So, in my opinion, if anyone’s to blame regarding H1N1, it’s the Obama administration. Period.
Vaya con dios, amigo.
Sue…you make such good sense. Common sense needs to be added to the endangered species list if you ask me!!
citizenwells // May 8, 2009 at 6:41 pm
SueK.
Unless something has changed, Iowa is the #1 producer of hogs
and NC is #2.
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Right, CW, I believe that’s so. I am questioning whether or not any U.S. hog has turned up positive for H1N1; the last report I got was none had. They have in Canada, but nothing in the U.S. thus far. Unless we’re just not being told.
Trying to get more info on U.S. ‘hog surveillance.’
Bailey,
I’m not against any alien moving to our country and wanting to become a U.S. citizen. Our ancestors were all aliens once and founded the new country, helped found it, and they loved the country.
However, an illegal alien is not the same thing. For one thing, they are breaking the law. How could a law-breaking person be of benefit to us? No, it doesn’t work that way. They only take the country down.
There’s a lot of people that I know from Mexico and were born there, then came to America and became a U.S. citizen and are proud to become a part of us in every way, shape or form. Many have fought in wars alongside their Anglo brothers and black brothers, etc. My son-in-law is one such person. He went to Iraq twice, and he was born in Mexico too!
sandy // May 8, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Sue…you make such good sense. Common sense needs to be added to the endangered species list if you ask me!!
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Thanks, Sandy-that’s the nicest thing anyone’s said to me all day :).
There’s a serious lack of common sense these days-must be something in the water..
Hush now Sue….don’t give them any ideas…lol
sandy // May 8, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Hush now Sue….don’t give them any ideas…lol
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Oops! My mistake. I’ll be quiet now.
Is there a medium for television viewing like XM radio. A medium where you can order up only what you want to see and completely filter out other transmissions. I would love to omit ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and a few others…..
I am not a big “what iffer,” but what if this fairness doctrine passes? Can you imagine a world where your only news comes from sources such as the above? Unthinkable.
sandy // May 8, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Not aware of any ‘selective media’-I think that whatever cable company you have has you sign up for packages or tiers. That’s usually the way it works.
I don’t believe any Fairness Doctrine will ever pass; if it does, just think of it this way: Liberal radio stations will also have to give equal time to Conservative programs, right? I think this is being proposed in part because no one listens to the leftie stations and they’re going out of business.
Bailey,
I’m so very sorry! My response to you was for a later post-I commented on the wrong one.
Nonetheless, I tend to believe this was a created bug and was planted in Mexico.
Salud!
CW, JeffM, and All,
Sorry to ‘hog the blog’ but regarding H1N1 in U.S. swine, I just got this statement from the USDA’s Secretary Tom Vilsack:
“There is no evidence of the 2009-H1N1 virus in U.S. swine. We continue to take steps to verify that there are no signs of this virus in our swine herd, including working with state animal health officials, private practitioners, and our own federal veterinarians in the field. However, it’s important to note that because of the inherent qualities of influenza, there could be transmission from humans to swine. ”
This was dated May 7, 2009.
I’m all swined out at this point. Good night!
Pertaining to recent dramatic climb in confirmed flu cases in Illinois:
Confirmed H1N1 swine flu cases in Illinois jumped again today, to 393, as state health officials caught up with a backlog of suspected cases …
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/mt-search.cgi?search=h1n1&IncludeBlogs=2&limit=20
Also of interest:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu_bird_flu
Could the significant difference in numbers have anything to do with how many people actually go to the doctor and are officially tested? Perhaps people in Illinois are more inclined to seek medical treatment.
I bring this up because my family (and many others I know) are just getting over the flu. Our symptoms followed the course for the swine flu, so it could be the swine flu, but we don’t know, because we just took care of ourselves at home and did not even visit a doctor, much less be tested.
I’ve also wondered about why it’s hitting 25 to 45 year old males hardest. Could it be because those of us older already had the swine flu in ’76 and are at least partially immune to this strain?
Or is it because whoever created this virus wanted to target those most capable and likely to defend this nation and our people in the event of war??? We would be quite vulnerable if all our able bodied men were wiped out in a pandemic…
But never hopeless nor helpless – that’s when the menopausal and post-menopausal women would go into psychob*tch mode to protect their children and grandchildren!!!
CW, thanks for all you’ve done and continue to do.
Thanks for your comments, SueK and Kittycat! And I’m sorry if my comments angered anyone else, especially JeffM.
I lived in your country illegally for 10 years as a kid through high school, my father tried very hard to establish residence but was unable to because he wanted to do everything right…you know, no anchor baby and me not getting married for a green card, these were options given by the immigration agency as means to legalize our stay there. Anyway, I grew up and I feel in love with your country and your people;
I’ve considered myself a citizen of Mexico and US of A, and I’m proud of both worlds even though I don’t approve of a lot of the stuff going on either of them. Believe me, I understand why you want to keep us away especially now with this virus, there’s so much fear among all of us and that fear leads to alertness, desperation and sooner or later it turns into anger…and well, it’s proven fact that angry people don’t always say and do what they mean. But it still hurts, we’re being targeted and treated as swine just for being Mexicans and that it’s inhumane. There are many countries pointing fingers at us, we don’t need this what we need is help, many people don’t seem to realize that by helping us they be helping themselves because this virus is spreading and faster than anyone thought.
Obama promised to bring the world together, it seems as though his presidency is only bringing out the hatred in each of us.
Vayan con Dios!
Bailey,
Gracias for your reply.
Like Kittycat, I totally understand your point. It is difficult to get into the U.S. legally and understand why some can’t wait-if it’s between starvation and feeding your family, you do what you need to do. I’m not condoning illegal immigration, however, and that’s why I believe things need to change. A good friend of mine and her mother waited *12 years* to gain entry into the U.S. legally from Russia. There really is no reason why this should take so long!
I’m also very sorry that Mexicans have been targeted. I think it has a lot to do with not understanding what’s happening. Fear is a very powerful emotion and when people fear something, they tend to lash out. It all comes down to where it’s believed H1N1 started, and everyone’s telling us it’s Mexico. If you ask me, I believe that the virus was *planted* in Mexico. Why? I can’t answer that.
This, however, is the way Obama operates-he is definitely trying to divide us , turn us against each other, and shake our foundation. He will *not* succeed! We will not allow him to tear America down piece by piece, and Patriots on this blog and others will make sure he doesn’t.
Adios.
I live in IL.
We have many new illegals of all nationalities because in IL. your city of Chicago, sets the rules that the rest of the state then has to follow.
We have NO representation, city, state, or federal. But NON-Citizens are treated EXTREMELY WELL. IL citizens are treated like 2nd class . That’s a fact .
I am not surprised our state has so many I expected it would , we have Baxter, I know they are not located in the city of Chicago but Lake County IL. not that many miles but county next to mine. And I have read of other problems with products produced from there over the past years.
I believe those cases would be mostly in Cook, Lake and McHenry Counties since most of the jobs are located in the largest industrial area of the nation (not sure if that’s true any longer? ) near Cook county IL. Many like myself and my husband travel 30+ miles a day on way, to have work but the workers are primarily illegals , or H-1b’s etc from all over the world. And we are the primary area for Chinese Aslyum people since 9-11 ( prior to that is was in CA. ) And OF COURSE our state will take those from Gitmo.
Doesn’t matter what the IL. American citizens want , only what the city of Chicago, the state of IL. run by Chicago, and the federal officials of this state also run by Chicago want .
And let’s not forget non-citizen can register to vote by just claiming without proof ( btw American citizens can not get away with this ) to be a citizen in this state.
Then I also think back to more than one story I have read about the training being provided by Homeland Security in Indiana to prepare for massive deaths in IL.
Oh and just because Obama was in IL. for a time doesn’t mean I feel safer than other states in the event of a national emergancy etc. and I would point to the figures of the swine flu to prove my point there.
Hi, Bailey:
My son-in-law is an American, but he still loves Mexico too. So I can definitely understand your feelings. And I don’t know how many Americans feel this, but I do agree with SueK, that if people want to become citizens of this country, it should be pushed through faster so it can happen. However, I do think that they need to study a little bit about our history and stuff and constitution. That is only fair to them too. Heck, it’s obvious that Americans need to study their own constitution because it used to be taught in schools. I don’t think it’s so anymore.
This country is made up of people who left other places to found this nation and there are many who take their citizenship seriously, although I have found lately that some Americans just take it all for granted, which can really happen anywhere, honestly. So all of this is a wake-up call to them to WAKE UP OUT OF YOUR SLEEP!!!
I don’t feel that it’s right that your country, Mexico, should be singled out, but as you know with what’s going on now, it’s going to be. It’s not right, though. I think that this stuff was planted, Bailey. I’m serious. Of course, I can’t prove it either. That’s why we’re all here asking questions. We’re not the only ones thinking this and asking these same questions, I promise you.
“I’ve also wondered about why it’s hitting 25 to 45 year old males hardest. Could it be because those of us older already had the swine flu in ‘76 and are at least partially immune to this strain?”
You just released an old memory in my “old” memory bank. Back in ’76, I had the flu twice in about a two months’ time frame. It freaked my doctor out too! (I was in my 20s.) I remember having it, was sick for many days, and then about two months later or a little less, I had it again. My doctor said, well, I guess it is possible to have the flu that close, and he knew that I had the flu both times.
Thinking back on it, that year I didn’t have a flu shot at all. As a matter of fact, I’ve only had a flu shot about three times in my entire lifetime. The last time that I had one, I happened to be one of a few that received a bad dose, which was when I worked at a hospital, and some nurses received bad doses too. We all got sick from it.
But in ’76, I did have the flu two times. I know now that it was the year that I had it. I’ll never forget that now that you jarred my memory of it. Even the doctor couldn’t understand it, so maybe I had two different flues. It’s possible.
I believe since this is a targeted swine flu out break, it’s hitting those in the age groups it was developed to hit.
Re-read what has been posted here and other places about the scientist deaths, about the bio-logicical war fare experimentation going on. They , meaning those in the governments of America and many nations know what they are doing and are testing all the time. Specifically by gender , sex, age etc. They know and can program or should I say test there target populous.
This may have been such a test?
ILBlue // May 10, 2009 at 12:33 am
Hello IllBlue,
I believe you’re right about the targeted outbreak; a ‘test run’ to see what something like this would do.
You may recall the sarin gas attacks in the Japanese subways in 1995, prepetrated by a group called Aum Shinrikyo. This attack killed a dozen people and injured many more.
It was also a ‘test.’
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kittycat // May 9, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Hi Kittycat,
Funny you mention your 1976 ‘flu bout.’ I was nailed with something 3-4 weeks ago and now ‘something’ has hit me again. Either the first bug wasn’t gone completely, or another one has whacked me. With compromised lungs, I’ll be checking this out on Monday.
kittycat // May 8, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Another thing, what’s the weather like in IL? In TX right now, it’s pretty warm. I think we’re supposed to be in the 90s today. More people outside, and I think that flu virus kind of dies some in the heat, doesn’t it, SueK? I could be wrong, but I thought that I read that. Sunlight is great! Bring on the Vit. D!!!
If the weather in IL is cooler, more people indoors, the bug can spread to others if you’re in buildings, etc., I guess.
citizenwells // May 8, 2009 at 1:01 pm
SueK.
You are correct.
However, it is a little odd that IL stands out in this stat and may also lead the nation
in corruption.
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CW,
A reliable source reveals that a major drug company has sent pandemic preparedness materials to its employees. Included in the packet were N9f protective masks, designed to filter out aat least 95% of very small airborne particles. Preparing for an influenza A (H1N1) Pandemic instructions state that exposure to SUNLIGHT INACTIVATES THE VIRUS ALMOST ENTIRELY. I spoke to friends who live near Chicago and they said that the temperatures have been only in the 60s and 70s during the past few weeks so people probably haven’t been outdoors as much as in warmer climates. This may partially explain why the flu is spreading at a faster rate in Chicago than in the sunnier states like California, Texas and Arizona.
Thanks Jonah.
Jonah // May 10, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Hi Jonah,
Yes, I’ve also heard of ‘kits’ being distributed. Hmmm…wonder what the drug company knows that we don’t?
Checked the stats again and the sunlight theory makes sense. I’m wondering, though, why CA and AZ are still up there in numbersl?
I think that NY is high just due to the sheer volume of people.
Will check the numbers again on Monday and see where we are. The ‘cold’ states should really be taking off as far as confirmed cases are concerned.
Hi CW and Jonah,
Have just checked the stats for Sunday, May 10 from the CDC.
ND, MT, WY (cold states) =Zero
TX=108
AZ=182
Sorry, hit ‘enter’ before I should’ve.
CA=282
Rather than temp being a factor, I’m thinking population density may have a lot to do with it. Although the stats aren’t broken down by cities/towns within a state, I’ll bet the most cases reported are in and around major metropolitan areas. Individual states may have this breakdown on their own department of public health or municipality web sites.
Other than that, there seems to be no rhyme or reason to this…